WEBVTT - I CHOOSE ME LIVE BACKSTAGE: Dr Daniel Amen, Gabrielle Carteris & Val Chmerkovskiy 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:08.719 You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. You're 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:13.000 listening to I Choose Me, the podcast where extraordinary people 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:17.200 remind us what's possible. I had the honor of bringing 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.159 some of those wise voices to the stage for my 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:24.360 second annual I Choose Me Live Empowerment Summit. I'm so 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:26.640 excited I get to share these conversations with you. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:27.040 Now. 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:32.320 My friend Collina Estrino sat down backstage with brain health 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:37.760 pioneer doctor Daniel Amen, beloved actress and advocate Gabrielle Carteris, 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:42.720 and the incredibly talented Val Schmerkovsky. I would also like 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.840 to thank our signature sponsors for the event, Capitol Group 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:46.720 and Nella Speck. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.760 We are backstage at the I Choose Me Live Women's Summit, 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.040 and joining me right now is doctor Daniel Amen. Thank 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:54.320 you so much for being here. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:56.360 Thank you so much for having me. 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.560 So this is a really important event for a lot 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.920 of people, and they're so excited to be here talking 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:06.360 about empowerment, talking about choosing themselves and really navigating properly. 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.600 For you specifically though, today, since we're here to talk 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.000 about choosing ourselves, what are some simple things that we 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.520 can choose to do daily to keep our brain active. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:17.560 Well, I mean the first thing is to think about it. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.400 Yeah, like very cool. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.000 People think about it. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.280 Nineteen ninety one. I'm a double board certified psychiatrist. I 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.559 was a top neuroscience student in medical school. I didn't 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:33.400 care about my brain at all because I'd never seen it. 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.720 And when I started our brain imaging work, I scanned 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:41.000 my mom, who was sixty at the time, stunningly beautiful. 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:43.800 Then I scanned mine and it wasn't great because I 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.240 played football in high school and I had meningitis when 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.800 I was a young soldier, and I had bad habits, 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:51.960 like I was only sleeping four hours and night. I 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.280 was chubby and overweight, and I just had never cared 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:59.000 until I saw it, and then I'm like, oh no, 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.640 this has to be better. So I developed a term 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.680 I like called brain envy. I always say Freud was wrong. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.880 Penis envy is not the cause of anybody's problem. I've 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:12.440 not seen it once in forty five years. The only 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.520 organ where size really does matter is your brain. And 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:21.760 so the first thing people can do is love their brain, 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.840 because if you love your brain, you love your life. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.720 The brain controls everything you do, how you think, how 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.560 you feel, how you act, how you get along with 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:35.320 other people. It's the organ that manages your money, that 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:40.440 manages your marriage, that manages your children, that manages happiness. 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:44.440 And if it's not healthy, you're not healthy. And so 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:49.320 the one thing I'm working on a National Brain Health 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:53.080 Revolution initiative. I'm very excited about this. It's based on 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:57.040 one question, is what you're doing now me talking to 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:01.320 you good for your brain or bad for it? And 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.480 does it make the world a better place? And if 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:07.760 you can answer that one question with good information, and 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.200 quite frankly, most seven year olds know things that are 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.800 good for your brain are bad for it, you just 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:18.239 transform your life in such a powerful, wonderful way. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.600 I can't wait for that. That seems like that's going 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.160 to be a great When is that happening? You're working 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.320 at a rush end of this year? Thought, oh my god, 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.040 Oh you can do a tour or is it going 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:29.400 to be one? 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:29.800 Wow? 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.480 I cannot wait. Keep me updated on that. If someone says, 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.280 doctor amen, I have a very busy life. I try 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.720 to sleep at night, my mind is racing. It takes 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.720 me forever to fall asleep. What would you suggest for them? 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:44.520 To try to help them navigate around that. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:49.240 Don't take your phone to bed. It's really important because 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.080 what the blue light from your phone does is it 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:56.000 turns off the production of melatonin, and then you're just 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.760 wide away and then become disciplined. Like I do the 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.520 same thing every night. When I go to bed, I 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.920 say a prayer and then I go what went well today? 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:11.120 And the bad stuff shows up, but I sweep it away, 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.320 like have this big black room sweeps it away, and 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.760 I go hour by hour throughout my day on what 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:23.240 I loved about the day, even the little tiniest things, 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.640 holding my wife's hand, having eye contact, texting, or something 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:32.360 funny throughout the day. So many awesome things happen to us, 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:38.080 but our minds don't focus on them, and then we 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.200 get upset. And most of my patients, if they do 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:45.799 this just for three weeks, they have an increased level 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.919 of happiness. And I suggest you do it for the 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.960 rest of your life. When my dad died during the pandemic, 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:58.440 the worst day of my adult life, when I went 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.040 to bed that night, I went what went well to 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.159 and then the supervising voice, you know, sort of the 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.839 critic goes seriously we're going to do this tonight. But 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:11.240 because it was my habit, I did it. And I 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.440 remembered something funny my mom said to the police officer 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.880 and all the people who texted me because they loved 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.600 me and my dad and just holding his hand which 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.200 was so soft before the mortuary took him away. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:25.800 And then I went to sleep. 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.159 And it didn't mean I didn't love him, didn't mean 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:32.320 I wasn't grieving, but it meant I was managing my 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:36.599 mind rather than let my mind manage me. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.360 So when you suggest to kind of write things down, 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.080 look back, focus on the positive, can you walk us 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.280 through what that does to your brain and how that 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.719 in a three weeks time makes such a big difference 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.440 in your day to day life. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:55.560 So it actually turns off the an area of the 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:59.080 brain called the default mode network. So if you just 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.560 let your mind want you just like lay in bed 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:05.320 and try to go to sleep, the critic part of 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.800 your brain, it's called the default mode network, just starts 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:13.880 picking on you, noticing what's wrong. It's part of the 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.960 brain involved in error detection. What do you don't like 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.240 about your husband, what do you don't like about yourself? 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:20.680 What do you don't like about work, what do you 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:26.440 don't like and by focusing on what you love, it 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:30.080 actually turns it off a little bit like psilocybin, but 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:35.600 without any of the side effects. And developing this practice, 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.200 and the first time people go I can't do it, 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.280 it's like sort of like the first time you shot 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.200 a free throw, you were terrible at it. You just 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.280 have to keep doing it, and the more you do it, 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:50.280 the easier it becomes. And when you do it at night, 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:55.080 it sets your dreams up to be more positive and 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.479 you're more likely to have better sleep, which means tomorrow 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.840 is going to be better. If you want a better 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:05.760 memory tomorrow, do this exercise and sleep well tonight. 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.200 I do feel like Los Angeles in general has this 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:15.200 very hustle culture. Right You're working constantly, You're working sixteen 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:20.560 hour days, NonStop, possibly even longer. What do you want 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.080 to say to them, because my assumption is, and maybe 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.280 it's a bad assumption, there's not a lot of sleep 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:29.080 going on in the entertainment industry. With people's schedules and 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.680 lifestyles and things that they have to do, things that 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.480 they're obligated to do. What do you want them to 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:36.720 know about brain health? About making sure they take care 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:37.440 of themselves. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:38.080 Yeah, if you. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:42.760 Don't sleep, So when you sleep, your brain cleans and 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:48.520 washes itself, So your brain has this cleaning mechanism that 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:53.240 actually doesn't turn on until you sleep. So if you're 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.200 not getting six and a half to nine hours of 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.960 sleep at night, sort of trash builds up and it's 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.360 going to be a lot harder for you to be 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:05.680 effective in your job. So, as busy as I am, 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:07.880 it's a priority for me. 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.760 What do you say when it comes to napping. Is 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:17.480 napping considered still part of that long you know, getting 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.680 that six to eight hours of sleep or is that 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:21.200 not good? 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.480 Yeah, just think of it in a twenty four hour period. 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.520 You want to target six and a half to nine hours. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:29.760 That was a personal question for me. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:35.960 I'm a napper. Okay, last question for you, how because 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.000 I know you help so many people with your advice 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:42.040 and your expertise, and I mean everything that you just 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.640 said today is so so helpful, But you personally, how 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.000 do you choose yourself on a daily basis? What do 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.640 you do to make sure you are happy? You stay empowered, 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:59.120 That I have the right habits and I only love food. 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:04.240 That loves me back because you're in a relationship with food. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:05.880 And I don't know if you've ever been in a 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:10.360 bad relationship, but all the time I have, and I'm 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.000 not doing that anymore. I'm like married to my best 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.040 friend and I'm damn sure not doing it with food. 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.680 And so people go, I love pizza, but it's bad 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:23.200 for you. I love ice cream, Yeah, it makes you 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:29.200 fat and sad and feeble minded. No, and so oh 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.959 it's like, oh, don't you have any fun? And I'm like, well, 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.800 who has more fun? The person with the good brain 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.880 and the person with the bad brain. And so I 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:44.439 choose me by choosing things that. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:46.880 Love me back. 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:48.160 That's perfect. 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:57.880 Thank you. I'm Kallena Astrino's and we are backstage right 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.040 now with Gabrielle Carteris. Thank you so much for being here. 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:01.800 Thank you. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:08.160 So let's talk about choosing yourself. This is really important 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.280 to do on a day to day basis. So with 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.840 all of us, I know, what are some ways that 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.720 you make sure, you know you're busy, that you choose 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.479 yourself on a day to day basis. 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.319 You know, it's a practice, right, So for me at 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.160 getting up early before everybody else is really important to 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.839 have just quiet time. I take walks, I do a 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:35.000 lot of yoga and a breathing for me. Breathing, I'm 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.880 telling you, before doing anything, even coming here, I had 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.400 to go breathe, Gabrielle, just be here, and I think, 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:43.920 so those are the things I do to help myself 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:45.720 be in the moment of my life. 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.400 Can we talk about yoga really fast, because there are 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:52.800 so many there's so much research out there about the 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.400 benefits to yoga, but I feel like when people see 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.640 the poses, they get nervous and they don't want to go. 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.480 Can you just let people know what it's really like 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.640 in those yoga rooms and how there's so many different 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:04.520 levels for people. 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:10.720 I've been doing yoga now for almost thirty three years, 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.360 thirty four years. Yes, there is so many different types 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.920 of yoga. First of all, yoga is great, and people 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:18.959 need to have good teachers because you can hurt yourself. 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:23.360 I really yoga, but yoga is Yoga is not the poses. 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:27.280 Yoga is really about breathing. Yoga is teaching you how 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.600 to be able to breathe even outside. What you do 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.720 outside of the room, what we do in the room, 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.280 is to help us in life. So there are different 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.680 kinds in terms of levels of yoga. There's hatha yoga, 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.840 there's yen yoga, which are more like that's a more 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.199 I don't want to say it's not passive, because it's 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.800 a more RESTful, easier, not as hard. Hata is all 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.960 about the breath. You have vinyasa yoga, which can be 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:55.000 more about strength. It's about flow, but all of the 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.240 movements again, it's not about that. It really is about breathing. 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.520 And I would say to everybody, you know, as we 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.960 get older, particularly you know, when we don't move orf 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.000 we're tight. That means blood's not flowing because our muscles 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.120 are tight. When you stretch right and you're really releasing 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.520 your your blood is flowing. And if your blood is flowing, 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.360 you're going to get through your body. You're going to 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.319 heal better, you're going to be healthier, you're going to 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.120 feel better, your mind is going to be clear. So 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.640 there's a real it's meditative. It can be. It can 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.080 be you can have a very aggressive yoga class where 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.199 you it's very athletic, but it's really all those are 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.920 just things that you do. It's about breathing, and everybody 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.720 can do it. And I think it's one of the best. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.640 I mean, for me, it is my saving grace. I 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.800 even have an injury. I have a torn meniscus, and 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.040 so I choose to do different kinds of yoga right 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.880 now while I'm healing, so that I can still be 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:45.320 in it. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.480 I feel like that yoga hearing you speak so passionate 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.960 about it, and you mentioned it's the way you choose yourself. 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:55.960 It also offers you that empowerment aspect, that voice, that 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:57.840 something that you can turn to, that you know you 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.880 can always count on to make you feel good. Can 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.000 you talk about that a little bit? 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:04.760 You know, it's so funny. I go and I do yoga. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.640 Sometimes I don't want to go, so I all use 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.240 it in the respective yoga. I don't always want to 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:11.200 go and do it because I don't want to get 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.120 dressed to go whatever, And I go, and then when 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.480 I'm in the yoga, what makes me feel good is 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:19.880 AI arrived. So sometimes life is feeling good is sometimes 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.240 just arriving even when you didn't want to leave, right 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.800 it's just kind of getting there. So that makes me 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.839 feel good. I think that when I'm in the yoga 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.800 and I'm really starting to breathe. I get out of 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.200 my talking monkey brain and I start settling in my 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.320 body and I start to breathe and I'm in the moment. 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.480 And then at the end, I swear to God. And 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.200 this is true for me for yoga. Every time I'm like, 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.000 I am a hero, I am a champion, I am 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.760 a true that is when I because I did it 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:50.120 despite whatever considerations I had. I showed up and I 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.880 did my best. And in the end, I feel good 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.520 and I as long as I've been doing it, so 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.920 like thirty three years, right whatever, I still forget that 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.480 until I finally finish and I'm like, that's what I 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.120 wanted to do. That is exactly where I needed to be. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.760 So yoga that's where I find my worry your self, 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.160 and that's when I don't know if that was the 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.360 cold question you asked, but that's kind of like where 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:13.120 I go with it. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.160 I mean, I agree with you. I feel like I'm 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.320 not as advanced as you are by any means, but 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.480 even just going to those classes and just taking the 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.400 time out for yourself because life is so busy, and 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.520 I mentioned this earlier in one of the other interviews. 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.840 Our industry is so much of a hustle culture where 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.240 you it's hard sometimes to make sure that you take 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.000 yourself out of that. So I think it's always good 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:33.200 to have. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.720 Well, you're not the industry else, right, Like it reminds 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.320 you about who you really are, absolutely, because you have 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.080 so many things you have to Like you're interviewing me 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.040 and Neil, you have to be on point. You have 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.000 to you know you're coming in here. You want to 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:46.560 have a certain way you look, the certain way you 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.240 have to act, and it's exhausting. At the end of 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.760 the day. You want to be with. 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.240 You, Yes, And I'm glad to be here with you. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:55.800 I'm glad to be with you. Thank you. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:15:01.720 Let's talk about Jenny taking the iconic line from the 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:03.640 TV show that you guys were both on I know, 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.920 Tuan ol hello and make it into this mantra. Did 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:08.880 you ever think that all those years ago it would 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:12.480 turn into what we're saying today with this huge event 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:16.000 and just this huge, this outpouring of support and respect 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:17.480 from women and men. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.560 Well, first of all, I just want to say, I 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.440 choose me as just It's a phrase, so that's I 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:27.320 never thought about ever, never connected whatever for me when 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:31.600 I am really amazed with is Jenny. It is talk 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:36.920 about somebody who is truly really blossom into her humanity, 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.040 and who she is as a woman, is as a 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:44.360 human being is tremendous. She really I have such deep 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.200 respect for her. So if that's where she found her flame, 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.000 you know, I think her flame came from many different things, 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.680 and that was the anchor that she talks about. But 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.760 what I can say is I never imagined that in 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.080 our lives we would be here today at this time, 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.360 and that I would be seeing Jenny as the woman 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.760 that she is right now. And it's beautiful to see 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.800 that she's making a difference for herself and for others 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.000 that she cares. And I think that people receiving her 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.160 and all that we are in a time of great 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.880 strife in this world and we need to feel connected 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.400 and lifted up, and so for what she's doing is 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.920 tremendously important. I think now more than ever, I. 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.600 Feel like both of you grew up in the public eye. 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.920 When you look back at your time on the show together, 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:33.160 on look back at your friendship then till now, is 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:37.280 there anything that you would say to her younger self 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:41.200 or your younger self to help navigate all of. 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.560 That to help navigate the celebrity of it all. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:50.440 The celebrity that also, I mean, you guys were everywhere, 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.400 so yeah, you know what, it's so weird. 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.320 I was thinking about this the other day. You know, 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.320 I have only known my adult life like this, and 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.120 Jenny start even younger than me, but our whole lives 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.680 have been this is the only thing we've ever known. 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.880 So I think that if I were to say anything 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.880 to my younger self or to Jenny's younger self, it's 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:14.720 the thing I would say to anybody when they're young. 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.320 It's all going to be good. It's okay. Just keep on, 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:23.520 keep being honest tree to yourself, and life will happen 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.920 and it'll be unexpected, and know that it's okay. That's 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.080 just what it is. But this has just been our truth. 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.399 But everybody's truth is you know what I mean. I 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.560 don't know any other truth. I really don't. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.200 Well, in your adult life, I've seen so many things 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.520 that you've done with helping people in the industry, making 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:45.919 sure you have a voice for the voiceless. Moving forward 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:50.160 ten fifteen years from now, where do you see yourself 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.439 in those avenues? And also where do you hope to 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.440 see Jenny when it comes to I Choose Me and 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.520 all of the outreach that she's doing to help with 0:17:58.560 --> 0:17:59.440 women empowerment. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.119 I just hope she's happy. I think that you know, 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.120 she's going to keep. Clearly, Jenny is really energized. She's 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.720 a hard worker, she's very focused. So I imagine it 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.960 will become I Choose Me empire. I mean, I think 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.240 she's going to do great where I'll be. You know what, 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:21.399 I don't know where I'll be. I am. I'll say this. 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.480 I think I'm sixty five now, so I'll say I 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:29.040 don't think it ever stops that seeking who you are 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.360 and what's going on. I Choose Me moment is reinvented 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:36.440 constantly through our lives, and so I'm choosing me right now. 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:40.800 I really am, and I'm really I'm taking time to 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.520 be with my children and my husband and my friend 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.240 and myself, and I don't know where I'll be. I'm 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.840 a president right now with the International Federation of Actors, 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.400 so I know I have four more years of service 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:56.520 for performers still, but I think my whole life will 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.879 be still about service. I don't know where I'll be. 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.080 I hope that I am a part of the empire 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.959 with Jenny, I choose me life, and but for myself, 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:08.280 I hope I'm a part of my my I am 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.440 the storm. There was a whole thing I said I had. 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.280 I don't know if you heard it, but you probably 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.000 didn't because we were just doing I have a tattoo 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.720 and it says, I am the storm, and it comes 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:21.119 from Fate whispers to the warrior, you cannot withstand the storm, 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.040 and the warrior whispers back, I am the storm, and 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.159 so I am the storm. Is what I have on 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.360 my arm. And I hope to be fifteen years from 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.920 now a fierce storm continue to be I do. I hope, 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:36.919 and I hope that for another thirty years, and me 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.560 give myself like thirty more years and then I think, 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.399 you know, we'll see I think it's. 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.080 Going to happen. Actually, I know it's going to happen. 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:44.320 I believe it's going to happen. 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:45.920 I believe there. I believe in you. 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:55.760 Yes, thank you so much. You're amazing. I'm Cleean u 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:59.200 Estrainas and we are backstage right now the Women's Empowerment 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.960 Summit for us. I choose me, and we have vowed Chermyskovsky, 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.920 Did I say it right? I'm going to really get mad. 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:11.000 It's good, hold on, it's probably it's not your fault. 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:11.840 Can you say for me? 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:12.000 No? 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:19.800 No, Noamerkovski, Chamarkovsky beautiful, Okay, Chamarkovski Okay, three two one. 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.679 I'm Kalina Astrinos. We're here at the Women's Empowerment Summit 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.800 for I choose me and I have vowed Trimerskovsky. Did 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:29.359 I do it again? It's okay, tell me, now do 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:30.520 it one more time? 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:32.840 Do I practice this for hour? 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:37.200 Chamr cough CoV Chamarakovski. 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:39.240 It's like Tchaikovsky, but Tamarkovski. 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.160 We have vowed. Tamarikovski here with us right now? What's up? 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.280 They're going to edit that together for me. Thank you 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:49.479 for being so cool about that. My name is tough too, 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:51.560 so I always try to, like, what is get it right, 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.760 Kleina Astrinos, But it looks like a youok. 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:56.800 Like first one first take? 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:01.240 Okay, Wow, anyway, let's talk about you, shall we? How 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.720 we cannot we can't be as perfect as you? How 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:06.919 are you? Because you were recently in the hospital for 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:07.200 her to go? 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:11.720 I was, I mean, that's not crazy news. But but 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.640 thank you for mentioning that. I yes, I'm on tour, 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.680 first of all, just to give it some context. It's 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:20.640 not just because I'm just turned forty. I am on tour, 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.040