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Speaker 1: the former NFL scout, and he'll join me for an
Speaker 1: hour of going through most of the games, not all,
Speaker 1: but most of the games in the league. Let's start
Speaker 1: with Chicago and Houston. So, first of all, the Texans
Speaker 1: had seven sacks, most in the NFL this year, and
Speaker 1: eleven quarterback hits. That's the most this week in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So Caleb Williams didn't have much of a chance now
Speaker 1: he had two picks, would have had a third, but
Speaker 1: a penalty let him off the hook. All these young
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are struggling. Bo Nix is struggling, Caleb's struggling. You know,
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix is a lucky one. He's not playing. Don't
Speaker 1: forget Lamar Jackson got eleven weeks or ten weeks to
Speaker 1: watch Joe Flacko play in Baltimore, and Mahomes got sixteen
Speaker 1: or fifteen weeks to watch Alex Smith play. It's really hard,
Speaker 1: and the Texans may hit harder than every team in
Speaker 1: the league. They're at home.
Speaker 2: Not much of.
Speaker 1: A dynamic run game for the Bears, so it's all
Speaker 1: on Kleb Williams's feet, legs, Houdini act.
Speaker 2: You know his timing.
Speaker 1: DJ Moore got very frustrated with him in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter with a couple of minutes left. But I mean,
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to take from this? Houston's a
Speaker 1: better team, a better roster. At home Sunday Night football,
Speaker 1: c J. Stroud had more time to throw the first half.
Speaker 1: C J. Strowd threw for one hundred and seventy three
Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown and was mostly very very comfortable
Speaker 1: and he's got more good weapons. Now I do like
Speaker 1: DJ Moore, but Roma Dunze is a kid, he's a rookie,
Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen's hurt. Everything was in Houston's favor. I'm
Speaker 1: you know, if not for the fumble, they w a
Speaker 1: won by two touchdowns. So I didn't think it was
Speaker 1: going to be a competitive game, and the Bears made
Speaker 1: it competitive. I thought they played some really good defensive football.
Speaker 1: But this is I mean, c J. Stroud's better, the
Speaker 1: team's better, the rosters better, they're at home, the coach
Speaker 1: is probably better. I will say this about Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1: First of all, the Bears offense doesn't have much of
Speaker 1: an identity, and it doesn't have an identity because Caleb
Speaker 1: Bright now is running for his life and he's trying
Speaker 1: to figure the league out. So, you know, the good
Speaker 1: teams in this league you sort of know what they
Speaker 1: are on both sides of the ball, but especially on offense,
Speaker 1: they have, you know, a sense of what they are are.
Speaker 1: Chicago doesn't have that, By the way, Houston does. You know,
Speaker 1: we're in week two, heading into week three. Houston does
Speaker 1: have an identity. One of the more accurate passers in
Speaker 1: the league, multiple threats. Nico Collins is they compared him
Speaker 1: to Andre Johnson earlier in the game.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's that good, but a.
Speaker 1: Big targets Joe Mixon, speed targets good tight ends. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, there's an argument that's the second best
Speaker 1: team in the league. I mean, really, CJ. Stroud's comp
Speaker 1: coming into the NFL was Jared Goff, and I remember
Speaker 1: saying that's a fair comp. I think he runs a
Speaker 1: little better, but he is kid's dynamite. He is effortlessly accurate,
Speaker 1: deep ball, intermediates, flat everything. He's really special, and so
Speaker 1: I think the Houston Texans are completely legitimate Super Bowl team. Again,
Speaker 1: if not for a fumble, this would have been over earlier.
Speaker 1: The Bears, you just got to be patient. You just
Speaker 1: got to give him time. I mean, they got a
Speaker 1: gift win in Week one. They were out played by Tennessee.
Speaker 1: So you're one in one. You take a deep breath.
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams took a beating to night between the sacks
Speaker 1: and the hits, and he got popped on the sideline.
Speaker 1: Bear fans wanted to flag. If not for that, for
Speaker 1: the punch by the Texans. But you know, it's a
Speaker 1: big stadium, there's layers, You're not going to see everything.
Speaker 1: I just think you have to protect him better. I
Speaker 1: don't think I've seen a quarterback take that kind of
Speaker 1: beating all year. In fact, I haven't. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: the second worst quarterback beating I've seen, but that was
Speaker 1: that was Ross tonight, you know. And some of it is,
Speaker 1: you know, he's trying to extend plays, which you know,
Speaker 1: I saw Justin Herbert get banged up a little doing that.
Speaker 2: I saw Joe Burrow fumble today doing that.
Speaker 1: You know. But these are pro athletes, they're gamers, they're
Speaker 1: you know, there's a shortage of great offensive linemen, especially tackles.
Speaker 2: In the NFL.
Speaker 1: Everybody's got a good edge rusher. Every team, it feels like,
Speaker 1: has a good edge rusher or two. There's maybe six
Speaker 1: great left tackles in football, maybe maybe four to six
Speaker 1: good right tackles. So it's an issue, and the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: take the beating for it. So I wouldn't get too
Speaker 1: freaked out. I mean, the Bears were picked for third
Speaker 1: or fourth place. It's funny right now Minnesota is two
Speaker 1: and oh everybody else in their division is one and one,
Speaker 1: So the entire NFC North except for Minnesota, has a loss.
Speaker 1: How about Sammy Darnold. We'll talk about that with John Middlecoff.
Speaker 1: And you know, the Houston Texans are two and oh
Speaker 1: and everybody else in their division is oh and two,
Speaker 1: so they pulled away. But you know, my big takeaway
Speaker 1: tonight is simply the better team at home, the better quarterback,
Speaker 1: probably the better coach, the better roster one. And I
Speaker 1: can't beat up on Kayleb Williams too much. Bow Nick's
Speaker 1: had a rough day. I thought Jade Daniels for Washington,
Speaker 1: he's really really electric. His comp coming in was Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: He's not that fast, but he's he's special. And again
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy will sit due to injury, and Michael Pennix
Speaker 1: will sit for at least another week.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll watch the Eagles and Falcons tomorrow. But the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans struggled with protection in the first half. They were
Speaker 1: struggling to protect CJ. Stroud. That said, he still too
Speaker 1: for about one hundred and seventy five yards. But it
Speaker 1: is remarkable to turnaround. I'm trying to think the last
Speaker 1: time there was an NFL franchise that was a laughing stock.
Speaker 1: The following year they made the playoffs, and then the
Speaker 1: year after that they may be the second best team
Speaker 1: in the league. I mean they hit on everything GM coach, quarterback,
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, and multiple draft picks.
Speaker 2: They hit on everything.
Speaker 1: It's still not a strong ownership group, but Houston's always
Speaker 1: had money. It's a big city, and you know, they've
Speaker 1: got money to spend, and they did on Stefan Diggs
Speaker 1: and Joe Mixon. So they just have everything. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've got everything. The coach, the corps, nators, the quarterback,
Speaker 1: the left tackle, a run game, multiple weapons, a decent
Speaker 1: pass rush. I mean, tonight's pas rush was insane. You know,
Speaker 1: let's be honest. This is what makes the NFL king.
Speaker 1: Today was one of the craziest days I can ever remember.
Speaker 1: Now Week three, if you go to the early window,
Speaker 1: it's not great. This was an all timer early window day,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's a crazy, crazy day. Mcvay's oh
Speaker 1: and two John Harbaughs oh and two, Joe Burrows oh
Speaker 1: and two. San Francisco got hammered today. That scores not indicative.
Speaker 1: They got pushed all over the field. They were lucky.
Speaker 1: It was that close. So and tonight I think Chicago's lucky.
Speaker 3: It was that close.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to, if you really want
Speaker 1: to say something about Caleb Williams, he kept fighting. This
Speaker 1: should have been a three touchdown game. It felt like,
Speaker 1: I mean, how many quarterbacks. I mean, it was like
Speaker 1: one of one beating in the NFL this year. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know guys are sore on on Monday. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to be Caleb Williams. You want to get in
Speaker 1: that ice tub really quickly tomorrow. But for all of
Speaker 1: Caleb williams elusiveness, the Bears only average three point three
Speaker 1: yards of play. So, I mean, he's pretty magical athlete.
Speaker 1: But I don't think the offensive line protection has been optimal.
Speaker 1: And I also think Tom Brady's talked about this. I
Speaker 1: think it comes in stages. Quarterbacking in the NFL comes
Speaker 1: in stages. You know, the first year it's the learning curve,
Speaker 1: it's surviving. Year two it's growth. You know, the light
Speaker 1: tends to come on. Second year at some point Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: Christmas somewhere around there, and then the third year you're
Speaker 1: off and running. I think they're really good quarterbacks by
Speaker 1: year two can audible their way out of some of
Speaker 1: the pressures. You know, and I've said this, it's such
Speaker 1: an advantage, you know, either having a strong offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Jayden d Annials I think does in Washington he looked
Speaker 1: better today and c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud did.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at Malik Willis today with Green Bay
Speaker 1: and Matt Lafleur and that offensive staff. That was the
Speaker 1: best Malik Willis has ever looked. So as Shane Walder
Speaker 1: and the guy for Caleb Williams. The Bears have always
Speaker 1: had a defensive culture. It's I mean, the best thing
Speaker 1: you can say is that Caleb Williams a big, strong
Speaker 1: kid who moves well, and they're one on one. But
Speaker 1: I mean, they have a long way to go. In Chicago,
Speaker 1: there was all sorts of pre snap penalties and in
Speaker 1: the first half they just they just don't look tight.
Speaker 1: And there were also a couple of plays, a couple
Speaker 1: of throws by Kayleb Williams that are simply not going
Speaker 1: to work in pro football, a couple of lollipop throws.
Speaker 1: One of the lollipop throws, I think it was first half,
Speaker 1: got picked. It may have an early second half first half,
Speaker 1: got picked and a penalty against.
Speaker 2: Houston and gated it.
Speaker 1: But it was just a throw you can't make in
Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, when you're so gifted, you get
Speaker 1: away with so much in high school, in college that
Speaker 1: you just can't in the NFL. And I think Caleb's
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out what I can't do. Like
Speaker 1: he's not sliding. He did a couple of times late
Speaker 1: in the second half. He did a good job scrambling
Speaker 1: and sliding, but he got popped on the sideline. That
Speaker 1: was the punch moment. You can't take that hit, dude.
Speaker 1: You got to get down, slide, do something. You can't
Speaker 1: take that hit. So I think he's still trying to
Speaker 1: figure out. Caleb is what he can get away with
Speaker 1: in the NFL, And tonight not much of anything. All Right,
Speaker 1: We're going to have a lively one here on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, As we start today, Let's start Kansas City Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: You know it's funny.
Speaker 1: I've argued this forever that Bill Parcells used to ride
Speaker 1: Phil Simms, Phil throw it down the field. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not interested in you know, one interception.
Speaker 2: No picks.
Speaker 1: You know today Mahomes has two ugly picks, almost had three,
Speaker 1: Borough has none, and Kansas City wins. And by the way,
Speaker 1: in this opener against Baltimore, it was one of the
Speaker 1: ugliest picks not named will Levis Mahomes against Baltimore. And
Speaker 1: it's funny about Kansas City is that, you know, we
Speaker 1: we think of Kansas City as so efficient, but they
Speaker 1: make a lot of mistakes. John, They are vulnerable. They
Speaker 1: give you opportunities, but they're always usually good starting a
Speaker 1: game and finishing. In the middle of it, it can
Speaker 1: get choppy, but once again late like against Baltimore, they
Speaker 1: finished Cincinnati off. I felt terrible for Cincinnati in a
Speaker 1: way because at one point in this game, they put
Speaker 1: up a graphic that the last six matchup between these
Speaker 1: two teams Bengals Chiefs, they'd eat scored one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty points.
Speaker 2: Like it is so even.
Speaker 1: But I guess my takeaway is Cincinnati can go toe
Speaker 1: to toe with Kansas City forever. But Kansas City has
Speaker 1: this ability to start and end quickly, and they're a
Speaker 1: flawed team right like they're I mean, when I watch them,
Speaker 1: I think, God, they give you opportunities, don't they.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, big picture, I don't know how Kansas City,
Speaker 3: after winning back to back Super Bowls can take these
Speaker 3: type games week in and week out without eventually run
Speaker 3: out of juice. I mean, that felt like a playoff game,
Speaker 3: didn't it. The intensity, the physicality that that was I
Speaker 3: had because the Arizona LA game ended so fast. I
Speaker 3: mean I think it was over five minutes into the game.
Speaker 3: The Steelers versus the Broncos on one TV and the Chiefs,
Speaker 3: it was like two different sports being played in those
Speaker 3: two games. I do think, for whatever reason, that graphic
Speaker 3: kind of illustrated it. Cincinnati plays this team better than anyone.
Speaker 3: I mean, they've beat him in the playoffs. They went
Speaker 3: toe to toe with him a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: easily could have beat him again in the playoffs. Probably,
Speaker 3: you know they're gonna be kicking themselves. Should have won
Speaker 3: this game. I hate to see the game decided on
Speaker 3: a late penalty, Yeah, but it is what it is.
Speaker 3: I just think at the end of the day, the
Speaker 3: Chiefs culture completely flipped when they traded Tyreek Hill and
Speaker 3: they have this physical kind of I mean, they're a
Speaker 3: defensive team. I mean, Spac Doola is just brilliant. They
Speaker 3: are going through some growing pains starting a rookie left hack. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, because so many teams now you just watch
Speaker 3: around the NFL, even the bad teams have pass rushers
Speaker 3: and they move him around. They're gonna put him over
Speaker 3: that kid every single week. And Mahomes, luckily, he's a
Speaker 3: great scrambler. You know, Kelsey looks his age, he's no
Speaker 3: longer and he's kind of saving himself for the end
Speaker 3: of the season. And they did that again last year.
Speaker 3: But god, he's no longer. I would say the week in,
Speaker 3: week out dominant player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1: I wrote down four plays three plays in this game
Speaker 1: because I started. Really it was a close game, so
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna write down the big plays.
Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Mahomes to Kelsey, huge gainer, third and six, trailing twenty five,
Speaker 1: twenty three, Kansas City gets that spags blitz sack, late
Speaker 1: flag on Cincinnati. The three big plays to me, all
Speaker 1: went in Kansas City favor. They remind me a little
Speaker 1: bit like an old KG boxer, like Sugar Ray Leonard
Speaker 1: out of his prime. They win the end of the round.
Speaker 1: Like you get shots at him, you may knock them down.
Speaker 1: It's not always aesthetically pleasing, but they kind of figure
Speaker 1: out how to manipulate the judges, manipulate the game. You
Speaker 1: see this in the NBA with old teams. They did
Speaker 1: just have a way of figuring out how to play
Speaker 1: the game late. There there's an art to football at
Speaker 1: the end of a game and using your timeouts and
Speaker 1: field position that the Chiefs do not give you a
Speaker 1: ten on out of ten performance, boy, but in the
Speaker 1: big moments, John, that's where Kelsey's last year in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: he was huge in the red zone, huge on third
Speaker 1: or fourth down. And I think that's what they are.
Speaker 1: They they they as they go through growing pains, they're
Speaker 1: still the great closing team in this sport.
Speaker 3: Well, they're not as phased as much as remember two
Speaker 3: years ago Mahomes went through an awful stretch where he
Speaker 3: had a bunch of turnovers and they were playing bad.
Speaker 3: I think this was not last year, but two years ago,
Speaker 3: and now they still have that happen. But their defense
Speaker 3: is so good. Yeah, they're just such good open field tacklers.
Speaker 3: I thought, also, you know, they don't mentally crack. They
Speaker 3: ended up still kicking a field goal. But but Jamar
Speaker 3: Chase freaking out about a hip drop. Bro, he grabbed
Speaker 3: you by your shoulder pads and then he lets you down,
Speaker 3: like relax. And Joe Burrow's known him forever as like
Speaker 3: trying to come and he won't listen to anybody. And
Speaker 3: that kind of ultimately wasn't the difference in the game.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't happen to Kansas City. If anything, they
Speaker 3: get the guy off the field. They're not giving up
Speaker 3: fifteen free yards and let Andy or whoever yell at
Speaker 3: each other. But they're not yelling at the ref.
Speaker 2: And that's nope, that's right.
Speaker 3: And that Jamar Chase, I mean besides Burrow and he
Speaker 3: I mean, he's one of their best players, one of
Speaker 3: the better players in the league. You cannot lose your
Speaker 3: shit like that in that spot. It's really unacceptable. I
Speaker 3: mean it really. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I felt like Cincinnati sort of lost this game, not
Speaker 1: that Kansas City didn't make plays.
Speaker 2: They deserve it.
Speaker 1: They're impossible to me to root against because I just
Speaker 1: I really again, I liked old fighters and I liked
Speaker 1: teams that are great in the clutch. There's a New
Speaker 1: England quotient, Like you feel like sometimes do they have
Speaker 1: the best players out here today?
Speaker 3: Don't they feel like the Patriots the way they play now,
Speaker 3: like that dynasty They didn't early on with Tyreek they
Speaker 3: do not.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like, at the bottom line is they're more physical, they
Speaker 1: have a better coach, their quarterbacks better in crisis, and
Speaker 1: they don't beat themselves now dramatically. They're much more fun
Speaker 1: to watch, I think than New England was outside of
Speaker 1: the Randy Moss years. Yeah, but it's very much best coach,
Speaker 1: best quarterback, don't beat themselves a mother with two minutes
Speaker 1: to go in the game, third downs, fourth downs, red zone.
Speaker 1: They're just they're magic. And maybe that in the history
Speaker 1: of football's always been the case with the best team.
Speaker 1: But I thought Sincinnat Jamar Chase losing, they're cool giving
Speaker 1: up the big sack, the pass interference late. You know again,
Speaker 1: Casey deserved it. But Cincinnati in this spot, which Buffalo's
Speaker 1: done against, this team, which Baltimore's done against, this team,
Speaker 1: beat themselves.
Speaker 3: This wouldn't be the end of the world for Cincinnati
Speaker 3: to lose at Kansas City if they hadn't just blown
Speaker 3: such an awful game. And I don't have I have
Speaker 3: strong opinions on a lot of coaches. I'm kind of
Speaker 3: indifferent on Zach Taylor. I don't know much about him.
Speaker 3: I don't hear him talk that often. I don't hear
Speaker 3: bad things about him. People like the guy. He clearly
Speaker 3: has done a pretty good job over the course of
Speaker 3: his career. But you watch this performance and you go,
Speaker 3: you should win the division. But you find yourself, oh,
Speaker 3: in two, they don't get up for games. They obviously
Speaker 3: get up for Kansas City, But how do I take
Speaker 3: you seriously when you lose it home to the Patriots?
Speaker 3: So are you know? They probably should win ten to
Speaker 3: eleven games if Burro's healthy. But you put yourself behind
Speaker 3: the eight ball all of a sudden you might be
Speaker 3: struggling to get a wild cards.
Speaker 1: Well, the good news is ravens row and two and
Speaker 1: the Steelers. Over the course of a season. You know,
Speaker 1: the Steelers have faced Kirk Cousins and then bow Knicks.
Speaker 1: I mean, bo Nix is a kid. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: just there's nothing you can see.
Speaker 3: He was bad today. He was bad, and I have
Speaker 3: money on him to win offensive rookie, he was atrocious.
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Speaker 1: to talk Cowboys Saints, so we all know coaching matters,
Speaker 1: but holy you give Derek Carr kubias kid, Gary Kubiak's
Speaker 1: kid the coach the coordinator first of all, the motions,
Speaker 1: the shifting, it's a totally different offense. I watched the
Speaker 1: Jets Titans Nat Hackett's offense. I mean, Aaron's one of
Speaker 1: the smarter guys in the league. Playing quarterback. Very little motion,
Speaker 1: very remedial, doesn't really challenge Aaron intellectually. Now, I think
Speaker 1: the Saints have more talent outside of quarterback. They got
Speaker 1: more players. But I'm watching the Saints offense against Dallas,
Speaker 1: and we can blame Dallas, but they are moving all.
Speaker 2: Over the field.
Speaker 1: Jesus, It's just it's amazing what happens when you have
Speaker 1: a competent quarterback. I'm not asking for great baker Derek.
Speaker 1: You protect him and you have a coordinator who can
Speaker 1: change stuff up. And I'm watching the Saints today. They
Speaker 1: average seven point seven yards a play. They were fifty
Speaker 1: percent on third down. I mean, Derek Carr was only
Speaker 1: what did I have here? Eleven of sixteen to the
Speaker 1: never to the football. It was all motions, and it
Speaker 1: was like, that's when I buy into a team, when
Speaker 1: it's beyond it's not just that they're scoring. This coach,
Speaker 1: this coordinator. It's a little like Detroit last year, though.
Speaker 2: They're not as good.
Speaker 1: At some point, they're just going to score points if
Speaker 1: they play inside or in play in good weather. Your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that game.
Speaker 3: Well, the MVP race right now is Derek Carr, Sam Darnold,
Speaker 3: and Baker Mayfield fighting it out, So I listen. I'm
Speaker 3: probably dead wrong on the Broncos, but I pounded the
Speaker 3: drum leading into the start of the season on the Saints. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I liked him to win the division. I liked him
Speaker 3: to make the playoffs. They went nine to eight last
Speaker 3: year and for half the season their offense was atrocious.
Speaker 3: They have a good defense. They have a really good
Speaker 3: players the season. Yes, Dennis Allen, some of his stats
Speaker 3: against the spread and stuff, I get it. But defensively,
Speaker 3: everyone in the NFL sings his praises. He's good. Kubiak,
Speaker 3: the Shanahans and Kubiak might as well be one family, right,
Speaker 3: Gary played for Mike than Kyle worked for Gary. One
Speaker 3: of the Kubiaks now works for Kyle. They're all one
Speaker 3: in the same. That offense does two things well, makes
Speaker 3: it easy on the quarterbacks and features the running back. Well,
Speaker 3: no team has more invested in the running back room
Speaker 3: than the Saints and Alvin Kamara is an excellent player,
Speaker 3: and he's perfect for this scheme. Why he can he's
Speaker 3: a good zone runner and he's an excellent pass catcher.
Speaker 3: What does that offense like to do? Throw the ball
Speaker 3: to the a lot?
Speaker 1: Like why McCaffrey is so unbelievable with San Francisco, it's
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 3: They're very similar players. They were Christians a little more physical,
Speaker 3: I would say between the tackles. But Alvin Kamara, when
Speaker 3: he's right, is a Pro Bowl level guy, and today
Speaker 3: he was. I would imagine he's the offensive player of
Speaker 3: the week. I mean, I think he had seventeen touchdowns today.
Speaker 3: But Kubiak, and you never know because when these guys
Speaker 3: work for McVeigh, when they work for Sean Payton, when
Speaker 3: they work for Kyle, they don't actually call the plays.
Speaker 3: But like when you tell me, his name's Kubiak, so yeah,
Speaker 3: I would imagine he's gonna know the offense pretty well.
Speaker 3: He's been Brilliant's someone that covers the Saints today tweeted
Speaker 3: like he might get a head coaching job before the
Speaker 3: season's even over. I mean, he has been. Their defense
Speaker 3: was awesome. The Cowboys didn't have a shot today and
Speaker 3: Obviously Dak throws a couple bad picks, but that's just
Speaker 3: they ran into a bus saw and when Derek, like
Speaker 3: Derek has had a really no one dealt with more instability.
Speaker 3: For the first nine years of his career, the team
Speaker 3: literally moved, yet they stayed in a spot. They ran
Speaker 3: through coaches, they had the Gruden situation. Derek has seen
Speaker 3: a lot of shit and by the end of the
Speaker 3: year last year he looked pretty good. And now the offense,
Speaker 3: they have good wide receivers, they have a good running game.
Speaker 3: They drafted uh, I think the tackle for Morgan State,
Speaker 3: who literally could play all five positions. So they're just
Speaker 3: right now they are to me, the Bucks are good too.
Speaker 3: Like that division, I think most people just took a
Speaker 3: giant dump on like it sucks. Actually, they got two
Speaker 3: pretty good teams and two quarterbacks who if you just
Speaker 3: that have a lot of talent around him, can play well.
Speaker 3: That the Saints I liked him a lot.
Speaker 1: They've been Yeah, And I also think if you consider
Speaker 1: Derek Carr a B to a B plus quarterback, which
Speaker 1: I think Baker is, which I think Gino's closer to
Speaker 1: B B minus. But if you look at the Saints
Speaker 1: roster between I think Jeff Ireland and Mickey Loomis are
Speaker 1: the two guys running personnel. They don't miss in a
Speaker 1: lot of draft picks. John, if you start writing, I
Speaker 1: mean Tomorrio Davis is one of the best linebackers.
Speaker 2: In the game.
Speaker 1: Oh fantastic, Yeah, I mean he's a thumper. They got
Speaker 1: eight to ten Pro Bowl level players. We just know
Speaker 1: the Niners players right like they're such a national team.
Speaker 1: The Saints aren't. They're wildly popular in Louisiana, big in
Speaker 1: the South, but Breeze leaves, you know who's Dennis Allen.
Speaker 1: They're not a big national team anymore. You watch that
Speaker 1: game against Dallas. To me, that wasn't about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It was about the on line. Camara the play call again,
Speaker 1: Derek Carr was six to thirteen on third downs. He
Speaker 1: didn't throw the ball, They didn't ask him to do anything.
Speaker 1: It was it's very brock pretty. It's a really easyft
Speaker 1: when you're throwing on second and four and third and one.
Speaker 3: The other thing is they have some more similarities than
Speaker 3: people would realize. With the Steelers. Over the last couple
Speaker 3: of years, quarterback play has been really atrocious. If you
Speaker 3: get good quarterback play, and you have a good defense,
Speaker 3: and you have some skill guys, like, you're gonna be
Speaker 3: pretty good. And like the other thing they have going
Speaker 3: for him is they get two cupcake games against the Panthers.
Speaker 3: Those are two wins. They're gonna be confident playing Atlanta
Speaker 3: and Tampa just because they play them all the time.
Speaker 3: I feel even stronger, Like I'm not saying this is
Speaker 3: a super Bowl team, but like, if Derek stays healthy,
Speaker 3: that team can't win twelve games. I mean they got
Speaker 3: high end players at a lot of key position. That
Speaker 3: was today because you never know when you beat the
Speaker 3: crap out of an awful team. And I like them today.
Speaker 3: I liked them a lot plus six. I thought that
Speaker 3: number was a pretty crazy. They came out today like
Speaker 3: they were going to the Super Bowl. Did they not
Speaker 3: like that? They was over quick.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the wise guys love Dallas. Dallas in
Speaker 1: the regular season is an unbelievable home favorite. They are
Speaker 1: very much Tyson in his prime. They can lose to somebody,
Speaker 1: they can lose to an off holy Field or on Lennox,
Speaker 1: but you put him as a favorite. They knock out
Speaker 1: like Dallas is one right home team against against usually.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Saints don't beat good teams. The last
Speaker 1: three years they crushed Dallas.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Kubiak has thrown his hat into
Speaker 3: the ring really really quick as a guy that's obviously
Speaker 3: now on everyone's radar. The one thing is when you
Speaker 3: play Zimmer, he's gonna blitz a lot. And it happened
Speaker 3: to Kyle to day with Flores, who's very similar. If
Speaker 3: you call the right play on the blitz, you're gonna
Speaker 3: get a huge explosive play, and that happened over and
Speaker 3: over early in that game. And then at Snowball we're
Speaker 3: on the opposite side with the forty nine ers. He
Speaker 3: was hitting the blitz, but they were getting home and
Speaker 3: stacking the quarterback and they didn't hit the play. But Kubiak,
Speaker 3: I mean, we're only two weeks in, but he's an
Speaker 3: early front runner for Assistem of the Year right now.
Speaker 3: That's for damn sure, let's talk Niners.
Speaker 1: You know him well. My favorite out of the week
Speaker 1: was Minnesota at home getting points. I think Kevin O'Connell
Speaker 1: is I said this last week, he's Kevin Stefanski. Before
Speaker 1: everybody realized how good Stefanski was dealing with all that
Speaker 1: Cleveland nonsense, and he just continues to put out good
Speaker 1: game plans. Again, they didn't ask a ton of Darnold
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty six, two hundred and seventy yards. He
Speaker 1: had five rushes. You know, Fred Warner made a great
Speaker 1: play because he's Fred Warner on an interception like that's
Speaker 1: not a great interception, but again it Fred, You know
Speaker 1: that that wouldn't have been picked off by ninety five
Speaker 1: percent of the linebackers.
Speaker 2: In the league.
Speaker 3: Might be the only guy, but yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean it was a great play. But what I looked
Speaker 1: at was the time of possession thirty five minutes to
Speaker 1: twenty five. Minnesota controlled the football. I mean it could
Speaker 1: have been how if you take away the fumble by
Speaker 1: Minnesota and the great Fred Warner picked John this could
Speaker 1: have been a blowout. It could have been a blood
Speaker 1: bath Niners.
Speaker 3: He got worked work, I mean they got killed ky
Speaker 3: Cat that was and he has one or two of
Speaker 3: these a year. I mean, it was a bad rough
Speaker 3: day for Kyle Special teams. They had a punt block.
Speaker 3: Flores was taking him to the woodshed, getting free guys
Speaker 3: all over. Py Perty had a bad pick, could have
Speaker 3: probably thrown another one. Defensively, they had some herors, But
Speaker 3: the story of the game and one of the stories
Speaker 3: of the early year sam Donold. I mean that throw
Speaker 3: he made the touchdown Jesus to Justin Jefferson, I mean
Speaker 3: is seventy yards in the air. I mean you see
Speaker 3: the arm strength, but the accuracy, and you think back
Speaker 3: to the Fred Warner play. I think those are the
Speaker 3: plays early on in his career where he just kind
Speaker 3: of melts yes, and to me, whatever happened last year
Speaker 3: with Kyle and they talked about it with Purdy, the
Speaker 3: maturation of just learning how to study. He just kind
Speaker 3: of feels like a different guy. And I think we
Speaker 3: have an example with Baker Mayfield. Some people mature at
Speaker 3: slower rates, whether it be football wise or personally and physically.
Speaker 3: His talent, obviously, the touchdown to Jefferson is going to
Speaker 3: be all over social media. He made some other throws
Speaker 3: on third down that were just like, I mean, he
Speaker 3: was slicing it that he was the better quarterback on
Speaker 3: the field today. He was awesome. And then there was
Speaker 3: another play his second touchdown while it was wide open.
Speaker 3: Those are plays maybe early in his career. Maybe he
Speaker 3: air mails, maybe he freaks out. Like he just feels very,
Speaker 3: very under control. And I didn't think the Vikings were
Speaker 3: gonna be very good, even though I thought it would
Speaker 3: probably go pretty well for him. You start two to zero,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, there's a path for you to
Speaker 3: get to nine ten wins. I mean, this is and
Speaker 3: that home field advantage, right, you'd have to say that
Speaker 3: Minnesota has one of the better ones in the league.
Speaker 3: And that's like you said, that wasn't just a win.
Speaker 3: You're playing the Niners, who's coming off a short week.
Speaker 3: That wasn't ass cask kicking.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't get that fumble. And again
Speaker 1: I mean Fred Warner made a great pick and a
Speaker 1: big hit causes a fumble. But this this could have
Speaker 1: been a three touchdown blowout.
Speaker 3: The score does not reflect at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, the time of possession is insane. And I
Speaker 1: also think it's funny with Darnold. You mentioned he's under control.
Speaker 1: What's interesting when I watched Sam, it feels like he
Speaker 1: sped his delivery up. Yet he's more under control, if
Speaker 1: that makes any sense. So his feet aren't nervous, his
Speaker 1: body's great, but it feels like O'Connell, who was a
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. They've you know, the knock on
Speaker 1: him all with Steve Kaim told me on Friday on
Speaker 1: FS one, I said, did you like Darnold coming out?
Speaker 2: And he goes, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't really like him. I didn't like his mechanics.
Speaker 1: He was too slow. Totally fair criticism. And Sam's a
Speaker 1: playmaker like Mahomes. He's gonna throw bad picks. All these
Speaker 1: guys that run around throw bad picks. I mean, Jesus
Speaker 1: Mahomes has two or three terrible picks this year. I
Speaker 1: can live with it. But Sam also five six different
Speaker 1: times takes off. And what Sam's also done. I think
Speaker 1: he's sped his he sped his delivery up a little bit.
Speaker 1: His feet are under control.
Speaker 2: But I think.
Speaker 1: O'Connell gives him. And I've heard guys talk about this,
Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck talks about this. Sam looks like O'Connell gives
Speaker 1: him clear things like he drops and he immediately is
Speaker 1: staring down a second later staring down or to play.
Speaker 1: His head's not moving all over the place. I feel
Speaker 1: like he's really intentional. I guess that's the way to
Speaker 1: say it like, I don't feel like he's out of control.
Speaker 1: Even if he moves in the pocket, he feels in control.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they mentioned this on the broadcast. He much has
Speaker 3: said to them that one thing he did last year
Speaker 3: and he's carried in this year is tying his feet
Speaker 3: with his upper body because clearly that was really out
Speaker 3: of whack. And that's where you get throwing. You know,
Speaker 3: you get to throw a lot of picks. Like, It's
Speaker 3: one thing Mahomes is brilliant at. Despite him kind of
Speaker 3: moving all over the place, he can always set himself
Speaker 3: when he needs to make it throw. It's why he's
Speaker 3: pretty accurate going to his left, going to his right.
Speaker 3: And like you said, Sam is a playmaker because he
Speaker 3: has a massive arm. But if you can one problem
Speaker 3: was early in his career he couldn't hit layups. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll talk about Anthony Richardson. If you can't
Speaker 3: do the basic stuff, you have no chance cause you're
Speaker 3: only going to hit the occasional sweet sixty yard bomb.
Speaker 3: You have to hit second and set in the out route,
Speaker 3: hit the guy and stride to move the chains. And
Speaker 3: that's what Sam did all day to day. And he
Speaker 3: did last week against the Giants. I mean, he's he
Speaker 3: looks like a really solid player who's gonna start in
Speaker 3: this league. For a while, I had the thought today, like,
Speaker 3: if he's gonna play like this all year? I know,
Speaker 3: you just invested in a player, but you just let
Speaker 3: this guy walk if he's gonna play at this level.
Speaker 3: It's one thing to do it against the Giants, it's
Speaker 3: another thing to light up the forty nine ers like
Speaker 3: a Christmas tree. So if he does this as the
Speaker 3: season goes on to the Lions, the Packers, I do,
Speaker 3: it's not just like you just let him walk, And
Speaker 3: that's not usually the way the NFL works. You kind
Speaker 3: of deal with what you got and you just kind
Speaker 3: of ride it and figure it out later. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's interesting for the Niners too, because the Rams got dusted.
Speaker 1: Good coaches and quarterbacks who get humiliated almost always play
Speaker 1: well the following well weak and the Rams get their
Speaker 1: left tackle back, which was a huge problem. And I
Speaker 1: don't know his bowl. I don't know Bosa's situation physically. Now,
Speaker 1: McCaffrey's go.
Speaker 3: He was fine. I think he's okay, he'll.
Speaker 1: Be fine, So it'll probably be a Niners win. But
Speaker 1: you know the scheduling.
Speaker 2: You know, we don't.
Speaker 1: You and I take scheduling very seriously. You look, you
Speaker 1: looked at Minnesota schedule in the first six weeks, You're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they can go one six. Now you're
Speaker 1: two and zero. Shit, if you go three and three
Speaker 1: the back in the middle of that schedule for Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Detroit doesn't look nearly as good Chicago. You know, we
Speaker 1: don't know what we're getting. I want to talk to
Speaker 1: Troit Tampa. So you know, there's the old saying in
Speaker 1: almost every industry strike when the iron's hot. So Ben
Speaker 1: Johnson Lions OC is the hottest guy in the lake.
Speaker 1: I've watched them back to back weeks. Second half last week,
Speaker 1: they weren't very good against Tampa. Jared Goff through fifty
Speaker 1: five times and Tampa had injuries in the back end
Speaker 1: of their defense. I'm watching them, and I'm like, I mean,
Speaker 1: Detroit had an edge in first downs, in time of possession,
Speaker 1: and yet something's missing, like golf should not be throwing
Speaker 1: fifty five a game with an average secondary. That was
Speaker 1: my take on it.
Speaker 3: To me. One thing that stood out in that game
Speaker 3: when you watch the two quarterbacks, Baker's not Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 3: but he can move. Golf cannot so when you start
Speaker 3: hitting golf, it really rattles them and throws them off.
Speaker 3: And that happened today and balls were flying all over
Speaker 3: the place, a couple awful picks over the middle of
Speaker 3: the field. He can't add lib like one thing, Donald
Speaker 3: like watching Donald and perty like. Those guys can move
Speaker 3: and keep him play alive. Jared Goff cannot. So if
Speaker 3: it is not there, and it's not there fast. The
Speaker 3: other thing is I gotta give this guy credit. Now
Speaker 3: he's he had a good year last year, won a
Speaker 3: playoff game, and now he's having a good start. Todd
Speaker 3: Bowles is an excellent defensive coordinator, I mean excellent. So
Speaker 3: when you look at that game, you just go Todd Bowles,
Speaker 3: who's just as a defensive coordinator, non head coach, he
Speaker 3: might be the best in the league. Against Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3: I think the thing with Ben Johnson big picture. He
Speaker 3: turned a lot of people off last year, Yes, and
Speaker 3: the word out, the way he handled things. Listen, if
Speaker 3: you don't want to leave, you don't want to leave.
Speaker 3: But he calls them as their flying into him. It's
Speaker 3: been bizarre the ways that's happened. I still think their
Speaker 3: talent on offense is so immense that it's going to
Speaker 3: be hard for that over the course of the season.
Speaker 3: Because Jamison Williams had a big play today, you have
Speaker 3: that to go. Saint Brown gets banged up a lot.
Speaker 3: You watch the Lions and there's a lot of times
Speaker 3: where he's coming up you're like to hear his knee.
Speaker 3: He hurt his hip. But they got two good running backs,
Speaker 3: their offensive line. They should not be struggling to score points.
Speaker 3: But credit to Tampa. I watched Tampa and go well.
Speaker 3: Baker's playing well, and Godwin and Evans are as good
Speaker 3: of a one to two combination. We got one guy's
Speaker 3: go to the Hall of Fame, and Godwin asked Tom
Speaker 3: Brady about him and he loves a freaking guy. They
Speaker 3: look good college. You know.
Speaker 1: The other thing the golf lack of mobility. And I
Speaker 1: like Jared a lot, but if you if you go
Speaker 1: to the big games in this league, that mobility thing
Speaker 1: is why Mahomes is hoisting trophies. He had a forty
Speaker 1: five yard run in last year's Super Bowl. If you
Speaker 1: look at Jalen Hurbs, Allen Mahomes, the mobility thing's not
Speaker 1: a small thing. Now, Kyler was off the freaking rails today.
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, it.
Speaker 3: Just insane, best game of his life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the golf thing isn't a small thing. Is
Speaker 1: that when you get into these second half, so the
Speaker 1: first half is almost.
Speaker 3: Cousins is the same, Right, they can't move, they're sitting down.
Speaker 1: So you get into these situations, your first half is
Speaker 1: largely the first couple of drives are on script. Maybe
Speaker 1: your third even a bit. Second half is not. It's
Speaker 1: not just a little thing to say GoF is incapable
Speaker 1: of moving. Because this staff's best coaches are on offense.
Speaker 1: It's not like Belichick, where Belichick was literally just giving
Speaker 1: Tom Field position turnovers in six So Detroit's going to
Speaker 1: score their way to championships. They're going to be in
Speaker 1: these shootouts. Well, you're not gonna throw for four touchdowns
Speaker 1: in big games. So one of the things that I
Speaker 1: took away I wrote in my notes today, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is no longer mobile. It completely reduces the Jets offense,
Speaker 1: which we'll get to next. But Goff's in ability to move.
Speaker 1: I also wrote this down Baker. Now, I don't know
Speaker 1: if he lost a little weight. I know Lamar lost weight.
Speaker 3: He did. I think he did it last year that
Speaker 3: he talked about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think Baker's moving better than he's
Speaker 1: ever moved in his career.
Speaker 3: Dramatically. I think just thinking about Goff that game that
Speaker 3: we just witnessed Cincy, and can't set how often how
Speaker 3: often those two guys had to scramble to keep plays
Speaker 3: absolutely And Mahome's probably a little bit better athlete than Joe,
Speaker 3: but Joe can move fine. Jared Goff and Kirk Cousins
Speaker 3: fall under this category of they're not like the elite
Speaker 3: old school pocket quarterbacks, but when they are, you know,
Speaker 3: they do have time, they can look really good, but
Speaker 3: it does have to be perfect. And every defensive coordinator
Speaker 3: hit the guy early and it throws him off. And
Speaker 3: GoF got hit early and he just skipping balls. He
Speaker 3: was just off and he cannot be He physically is
Speaker 3: incapable at the NFL level to move around and keep
Speaker 3: it play alive because once the play doesn't hit right away,
Speaker 3: they either block for an extra couple seconds or they're
Speaker 3: just screwed. And Cousins falls under the same category. Those
Speaker 3: players don't really exist anymore. Colin. All the good quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: they all can move, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Justin, Herbert Mahomes,
Speaker 3: Burrow Purdy, Jalen Hurst. Mobility is a big part of
Speaker 3: them because half these plays. These defenders, I mean a
Speaker 3: top of millionaires on that side, defensive coordinators making a lot.
Speaker 3: You have to be able to keep plays alive. He
Speaker 3: just cannot. Now. I like him better than Cousins, and
Speaker 3: I like his team better. But you saw today like
Speaker 3: that's like the reason maybe the Lions can't win a
Speaker 3: Super Bowl is, like, you face enough good defens is,
Speaker 3: you're gonna be in trouble because he gets thrown off.
Speaker 3: He looks like a different player than when he's really humming.
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Speaker 1: who had an even uglier turnover than last week. Five
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Speaker 1: talk Jets Tennessee. So the notes I wrote down. You know,
Speaker 1: I remember hearing years ago that Aaron Rogers didn't love
Speaker 1: a lot of motion. He didn't like his screwing around.
Speaker 1: Aaron liked to go to the line, do a motion,
Speaker 1: don't don't try to trick people. Just let me see
Speaker 1: the defense and where I can go. And that was
Speaker 1: and I've heard that on more than one occasion with Aaron.
Speaker 1: He wasn't a huge fan of all the moment, you know,
Speaker 1: the movement, the jumbo sets, the trickery. Just let me
Speaker 1: get to the line, let me look around, let me
Speaker 1: see the guys that I can attack. But that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you're not going to have some I mean you
Speaker 1: will watch the Saints and the Niners. Kevin O'Connell's teams.
Speaker 1: They're really smart teams. Mike McDaniel. Shit, they're moving constantly.
Speaker 1: The motion percentages are through the roof. The Jets offense
Speaker 1: that get plays in late there's very little motion. It's
Speaker 1: it doesn't challenge Aaron at all. Now, Breese Hall made
Speaker 1: a hell of a catch in the end zone. But
Speaker 1: the tight thing about this with Will Levis, who may
Speaker 1: have the worst judgment of any quarterback I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: The Titans had more yards, more passing yards, more first downs,
Speaker 1: and fewer punts than the Jets. In the timeout we're talking.
Speaker 1: Aaron's a top ten quarterback, Will Levis maybe the worst.
Speaker 1: How is that possible? And my takeaway is because I
Speaker 1: think the better coaching on the offensive side is you
Speaker 1: know it is the Callahans, But I'm watching the Jets
Speaker 1: and you know, they won, and I thought they'd win
Speaker 1: more comfortably. But God, John, I mean, you were a
Speaker 1: scout in this league. The Jets offense is just put
Speaker 1: it in Aaron's hands, try to get it to Garrett
Speaker 1: or Breeze. It doesn't fool anybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I text you after last week and
Speaker 3: everyone's like, can't overreact or playing the Niners. Well, we
Speaker 3: hadn't seen Aaron Rodgers because we didn't see him in
Speaker 3: the preseason. You talk about movement, He's Jared Goff Kirk
Speaker 3: Cousins with a much better arm, and a huge part
Speaker 3: of his brilliance over his career was he's probably the
Speaker 3: greatest behind the line of scrimmage scramble thrower in the
Speaker 3: history of the league and that is done. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: he is. He's Jared Goff with a stronger arm now,
Speaker 3: but he doesn't have a great offensive cornwall and their personnel.
Speaker 3: They have one wide receiver. So what happened today, Well,
Speaker 3: the Titans traded and paid Snead a lot of money,
Speaker 3: neutralized Garrett Wilson a little bit. Now they got two
Speaker 3: players on offense, a running back in a wide receiver.
Speaker 3: This is not like they don't have a sweet tight end.
Speaker 3: They don't have a deep wide receiver room. How many
Speaker 3: guys do they lose day on defense? Jermaine Johnson. We
Speaker 3: pass rusher got carted off the field, Mosley got hurt,
Speaker 3: he didn't come back. Hassan Reddick is already giving up
Speaker 3: one of the worst business decisions in the history of
Speaker 3: the world. Eight million dollars just hasn't shown up. So
Speaker 3: like you can, Soli can say all he wants out
Speaker 3: of sight, out of mind, you're missing that player. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so their defense isn't nearly as good as it has
Speaker 3: been the last couple of years. And then you factor in, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Rogers is an upgrade over their quarterback play. Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3: Whoever the hell they've been rolling out for the last
Speaker 3: two years. But relative to what they traded for, he's
Speaker 3: to me a shell of himself. This notion that like, oh,
Speaker 3: he still throws a great ball. If me and you
Speaker 3: took Dan Marino out to a high school field right now,
Speaker 3: Dan Marino would throw a beautiful spiral, right Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: is gonna throw a beautiful spiral into a seventies. What
Speaker 3: made him an elite player or a high end player
Speaker 3: was the athleticism combined with the accuracy and the arms set.
Speaker 3: The athleticism. Now his movement he feels like more Ridgie doesn't.
Speaker 3: He's just looking at and he knows it. He's he
Speaker 3: knows he can't run, he's not trying to run. He
Speaker 3: looks like a different player still relative for them upgrade. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I don't view the Jets is a playoff team
Speaker 3: at all, Colin. I mean, I think things have to
Speaker 3: go so perfectly. They've already got injuries with guys that
Speaker 3: haven't even been injured before. So what happens when they're injured.
Speaker 3: Guys get injured.
Speaker 1: I said this before the season. I said, folks, if
Speaker 1: Bryce Hall twists an ankle, just roll your coverage over
Speaker 1: Garre at Wilson. Aaron doesn't move. He's now ten and
Speaker 1: eleven in his last twenty one games, and that that
Speaker 1: game was more about Will Levis. I mean again, Titans
Speaker 1: had more passing yards, more first downs, fewer punts. That
Speaker 1: is the worst quarterback in the league.
Speaker 3: You know, he's given away literally two games and no question,
Speaker 3: I mean two games. Their defense, I'm Titans defense just
Speaker 3: watching football these last couple of weeks has been one
Speaker 3: of the better units. They have been fantastic. And Will Levis,
Speaker 3: you were on this a long time ago. Other people
Speaker 3: have jumped on the bandwagon. I think everyone You're not
Speaker 3: gonna find a supporter, probably including his coach today. That
Speaker 3: was he was screaming at him when he had that turnover.
Speaker 3: Just it's unheard of. I mean, it's like high school
Speaker 3: level turnot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what it is.
Speaker 1: So I called I called somebody in the NFL as
Speaker 1: a coach who's since been let go, and somebody I've
Speaker 1: been friends with for five or six years. And I
Speaker 1: called him and I said, all right. I texted him,
Speaker 1: I said, hey, can we I got some questions about
Speaker 1: a couple of guys, and so we talked, and.
Speaker 2: You know, he knows I love football, and he.
Speaker 1: Asked me about a couple of guys, and he asked
Speaker 1: me about Will Levis, and I said, it really worries me.
Speaker 2: I just see narcissism. I see I see kind of
Speaker 2: a guy.
Speaker 1: You know, the gun show at the you know, at
Speaker 1: Combine and both those last two games. And I'll kind
Speaker 1: of wedge this in. He's made mistakes that a selfish
Speaker 1: player would make. He has made egregiously bad plays with
Speaker 1: certain different times. Not just those two, but he's made
Speaker 1: several players where it's like, dude, protect your team in
Speaker 1: this spot. The Chicago pick is egregious. Protect your team.
Speaker 1: Will's into Will. Will loves his arm, Will love the
Speaker 1: way look the head bend. He's cool. I get it.
Speaker 1: Confidence matters. But there are times in this league game
Speaker 1: managing Tom Brady managed a lot of leads, he managed
Speaker 1: a lot of moments. Will gets into these and it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a play. It's like, bro, Bro, you're
Speaker 1: tied fourth quarter with Aaron Rodgers. This is a winnable
Speaker 1: game now. And I just over the course of a game,
Speaker 1: he really reminds me of Jay Cutler, and Jay Cutler
Speaker 1: was a guy that was never liked in the room.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. We can criticize him. People in the room
Speaker 1: like Aaron, people out may not. I think Will Levis
Speaker 1: could lose a locker room really fast.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't even know who their backup is, but
Speaker 3: I mean, to me, you could mention him immediately. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's I hear that Jay Cutler just kind of the
Speaker 3: reckless nature. Jay Cutler was in a different universe as
Speaker 3: a player than Will. I mean, Will Levis is just
Speaker 3: not an NFL starter. You know, highlight plays and this
Speaker 3: is what Bill harped on about Caleb in the preseason
Speaker 3: are meaningless, whether it's the preseason or regular season game.
Speaker 3: If you can't do normal stuff well, and then in
Speaker 3: the big spots like the Joe Burrow fumble, Like to me,
Speaker 3: I don't really hold that against him kind of freakish play.
Speaker 3: You have confidence that he can manage a game. That's
Speaker 3: why he's such a great player. Where Will Levis now
Speaker 3: back to back games, coming off a moment where you
Speaker 3: just did something that was the just everyone who's making
Speaker 3: fun of you around the league, you think you would
Speaker 3: kind of overcompensate and really just say hey bad, take
Speaker 3: a sack if I have to, and he did the opposite,
Speaker 3: and then as coach freaked out in another winnable game.
Speaker 3: I mean the Jets were, like you said, all the
Speaker 3: stats they were against the Ropes, they did not look good. No,
Speaker 3: I mean they were losing players. I'm thinking this is
Speaker 3: going to be really, really bad because the Patriots have
Speaker 3: been kind of feisty. It's like they wouldn't be some
Speaker 3: lock to win on Thursday night. And then you find
Speaker 3: a way to win. You get a momentum, you beat
Speaker 3: the Patriots, all of a sudden, you feel kind of
Speaker 3: good about yourself. But I have come away these two
Speaker 3: weeks being very very concerned. Jets defense is worse than
Speaker 3: we had thought, and Rogers, who we just were. I
Speaker 3: was only going off like NFL Network highlights, thinking like god,
Speaker 3: Rogers is kind of limping around and you watch a move,
Speaker 3: he's just he's very ginger. Yeah, and he does not
Speaker 3: want to leave the little radio four feet radios. We've
Speaker 3: all been watching the guy for fifteen years. No one
Speaker 3: was quicker take off, set his feet and throw a strike.
Speaker 3: Those days are gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to talk about Chargers Panthers. First of all,
Speaker 1: Bryce Young has an offensive coach and better weapons. He
Speaker 1: may not be able to play one for twelve on
Speaker 1: third down sixty nine passing yards. He moves well, he
Speaker 1: doesn't throw well. But here's what was a big moment
Speaker 1: in this game. So the Chargers were favored by about
Speaker 1: six they blew him out. So once again, it is
Speaker 1: exactly what we expected. Justin Herbert goes fourteen to twenty
Speaker 1: has about a half dozen rushes, so you know they
Speaker 1: get Joe Alt Now they have the elite tackle play,
Speaker 1: elite edge rusher play, and we worried about they don't
Speaker 1: have a number one. Well, Quinton Johnson today had five
Speaker 1: catches and two touchdowns. So Quentin's the guy they got
Speaker 1: out of TCU. Brandon Staley didn't know.
Speaker 2: How to develop him. He was a disaster last year.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he.
Speaker 3: Lost his confidence they had thrown into the I mean
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 1: Just I didn't even target him last year. He made
Speaker 1: any heck of a catch day for a touchdown if
Speaker 1: he hits. So now you got the slot kit out
Speaker 1: of Georgia.
Speaker 2: JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins is like a You see that flip into the
Speaker 1: end zone like he's a.
Speaker 3: Different look looks like a top five or six running
Speaker 3: back in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Right, so now I've got a top ten quarterback. I've
Speaker 1: got a top five coach JK. Dobbins, I have a
Speaker 1: run game, elite tackles, elite edge rushers. If Quinton Johnson
Speaker 1: along with their slot guy out of Georgia. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: oh you do have a weapon. Because he was a
Speaker 1: big kid. But he reminded me last year a little
Speaker 1: bit of Stephen Hill, the bust for the Jets years ago,
Speaker 1: the wide receiver, the guy that just could run fast,
Speaker 1: look great in the hotel lobby. But you're like, what
Speaker 1: is it not Today? I thought it's amazing, John. Their
Speaker 1: time of possession advantage was thirty six to twenty three.
Speaker 1: It's so horrible. It's so Michigan. But I thought to myself,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm looking around at these teams. This
Speaker 1: team could be a twelve win team. John elite tackles,
Speaker 1: elite quarterback, elite coach, elite ed rushers. Now a star back,
Speaker 1: time of possession dominance. Now we know the Raiders are
Speaker 1: better than we thought.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was kicking myself because that game was over fast.
Speaker 3: That I get Jim Harbaugh against this panther situation and
Speaker 3: didn't bet at the mortgage, Like what was I doing?
Speaker 3: You know, Jim, and we've been talking about this. I
Speaker 3: was in the car this week when he came on
Speaker 3: with you. His personality is dramatically different than the guy
Speaker 3: I remember when I was around in San Francisco who
Speaker 3: had this huge chip on his shoulder and was tight.
Speaker 3: It felt like the way the last couple of years
Speaker 3: in Michigan proving like, hey guys, I'm one of the
Speaker 3: best in the business. I don't know if it's been
Speaker 3: the weight's been lifted off his shoulders, but I know this,
Speaker 3: and I think Jim might have said this to you
Speaker 3: or I heard him say this somewhere. Is that his
Speaker 3: dad was at a training camp practice and looked at
Speaker 3: him and said, I think JK looks like the guy
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago before he got injured. If
Speaker 3: you give Jim Harbaugh a top end running back, because
Speaker 3: we know he's always gonna have a good offensive lines,
Speaker 3: why he you know, everyone thought he was nuts, like
Speaker 3: he's gonna take a wide receiver, Like no, guys, he's
Speaker 3: gonna take a offensive lineman. And then he calls them
Speaker 3: skill positions their defense is always going to be solid.
Speaker 3: Why one, he's just an elite hier like he hires
Speaker 3: well so like and John does too, they hire good
Speaker 3: defensive coaches, so their defense is going to be well coached,
Speaker 3: even if they're going to be better personnel wise than
Speaker 3: a couple of years. But like what he does translates.
Speaker 3: He controls the line of scrimmage on offense, which even
Speaker 3: if you have a way better offense than him, he
Speaker 3: keeps you off the field, and that wasn't the case today.
Speaker 3: But he can just run it down your throat. So
Speaker 3: if he can run it down your throat, Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 3: is a lock to win double digit games in college
Speaker 3: or the pros. And clearly the Broncos are not going
Speaker 3: to be very good. I still think the raid one
Speaker 3: advantage the Raiders had. The Ravens offensive line is not good,
Speaker 3: and the Raiders do have a good defensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they were down ten in the fourth quarter and came
Speaker 3: to him, but it was an impressive win on the
Speaker 3: rod was But to me, the Ravens I got I
Speaker 3: got red flagged. I mean, they got some weird stuff
Speaker 3: going on. But I think Jim Harbaugh can finish second
Speaker 3: in this Division with ten or eleven wins and be
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Yeah, you know, I don't think he
Speaker 3: can beat the Chiefs. Their team is not good enough
Speaker 3: maybe in an individual.
Speaker 1: Game, but they are built to beat Kansas City.
Speaker 3: Well, they're built to plan an ugly you know, twenty
Speaker 3: three to twenty game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, their time of possessions so far this season are
Speaker 1: really impressive. And it's just it's it's it's funny because
Speaker 1: just think about this. Six months ago, before the national
Speaker 1: before the college football playoffs, seventy percent of fans and
Speaker 1: media were still doubting Jim Harbaugh. He was getting crushed,
Speaker 1: he couldn't coach in the Penn State game. He's overrated.
Speaker 1: And now you look at him and you're like like, stop, stop, media, stop.
Speaker 1: This guy is absolutely phenomenal. This seem almost reminds me.
Speaker 3: Well, he's not very but he's not even hateable anymore.
Speaker 3: The way he carries himself, the way he interacts. He's
Speaker 3: actually much more lovable now because he used to have
Speaker 3: like this aggressive he was tough on the press, definitely publicly.
Speaker 3: He could befriend him off this version of Jim Harbaugh,
Speaker 3: and I didn't fall in this closely like in Michigan.
Speaker 3: Part of it. He was suspended a couple times last year.
Speaker 3: Just in terms of his daily press conferences. He's a
Speaker 3: new man. I mean he's I bet the Spanishes are
Speaker 3: like God, this is incredible, the way he interacts, how
Speaker 3: happy he is. I mean, he's just he feels like
Speaker 3: a different person. Maybe he's sixty now, life's good. I
Speaker 3: don't know. Southern California. He feels completely different than the
Speaker 3: guy at Stanford at the forty nine. And I would
Speaker 3: say early on in Michigan, just his mannerisms, his communication,
Speaker 3: just his just everyday demeanor. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think some of it is he's inherited
Speaker 1: some decent quarterbacks Alex Smith. He's I think he realizes,
Speaker 1: holy crap, I got a top five quarterback here. That
Speaker 1: makes everybody happier. And Tom Telasco deserves some credit. They've
Speaker 1: got players. I mean they just Tom made a mistake.
Speaker 1: He hired the wrong guy. Brian Dabel was out there.
Speaker 1: He knew Dabel, but they ended up going with Brandon Staley.
Speaker 1: If he has Dabel, maybe Jim Harbaugh stays in college.
Speaker 1: You know, it's weird how things work. If the doctor
Speaker 1: for the Miami Dolphins gives Drew Brees the thumbs up.
Speaker 1: May never go to Alabama, he stays, you know, he
Speaker 1: was starting to kind of get things.
Speaker 2: Going in Miami.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, at the bottom line, if Dabel gets
Speaker 1: the job and not Brandon Stalely, my take is justin
Speaker 1: Herbert's good and Harbaugh's probably staying at college one more year.
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Speaker 2: I want to talk Rams Arizona. Listen.
Speaker 1: Rams don't know any players. I mean, they're just they're just.
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup was limped today. Pooka is already out. Tyler
Speaker 1: Higgsby's out. Let's talk Marvin Harrison and Kyler So Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 1: The best college receiver I ever saw was Randy Moss.
Speaker 1: The second was Calvin Johnson. I think Marvin reminds me
Speaker 1: a little of Calvin Johnson. Size, length, hatching, radius, hands.
Speaker 1: He didn't run like Moss, either did Calvin. But you're
Speaker 1: not going to catch him from behind. But now you
Speaker 1: know the first week Steve Kim told me he'd watched
Speaker 1: the film and the tape and he said Marvin was nervous.
Speaker 1: He was playing slow. He's not really a burner, but
Speaker 1: in a league you saw it today with the Rams,
Speaker 1: in a league that has a lack of corners, and
Speaker 1: you know, with Kyler's ability to run, you have to
Speaker 1: have a spy. He's going to get some one on
Speaker 1: one man and they run the football well.
Speaker 2: So it's like you.
Speaker 1: Start looking at Arizona and you're like, you know, we
Speaker 1: watched Buffalo handle Miami. Buffalo is probably pretty good team.
Speaker 1: They took a big lead on them. Harrison is I mean,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they have two backs. Kyler had
Speaker 1: his best game maybe as a pro. Marvin Harrison and
Speaker 1: I will argue this. I think their coach is good
Speaker 1: on his side of the ball. I think they play
Speaker 1: their ass off defensively. What do you make of Arizona
Speaker 1: and Kyler?
Speaker 3: I don't know where Kyler ranks, you know, one through
Speaker 3: twelve or whatever. He's probably close to ten through twelve
Speaker 3: than he is three or four. But when he's on,
Speaker 3: there can't there's a short list of players that you
Speaker 3: would rather watch. Wow, he is as entertaining as they get.
Speaker 3: Like what Deshaun Watson has become like no one wants
Speaker 3: to watch him. Kyler's the opposite. He's like, this is awesome.
Speaker 3: He's always gonna have some limitations in the pocket just
Speaker 3: because of height, but just a pure talent. You know,
Speaker 3: you've been watching sports longer than me. He has to
Speaker 3: be one of the great true blue chip just talents
Speaker 3: in the history of sports to have that much capability
Speaker 3: to do the things he can do at five foot nine.
Speaker 3: I mean his speed, his arm strength, his accuracy on
Speaker 3: the move. Obviously, Harrison's a really good player. One thing
Speaker 3: I heard in the offseason when he got drafted is
Speaker 3: the one transition part for Marvin Harrison was going to
Speaker 3: be the overwhelming majority of players Heath saw in college
Speaker 3: these last couple of years were guys not NFL corners
Speaker 3: for a lot of guys in the Big Ten. And
Speaker 3: he came to the NFL and he's immediately facing the
Speaker 3: first week the Bills. Rasuell Douglas. This guy's making ten
Speaker 3: million dollars a year, probably has a couple kids at home,
Speaker 3: drives a range row that lives in a mansion, and
Speaker 3: he's trying to take your lunch and Marvin, it was
Speaker 3: going to be a wake up moment. And today they
Speaker 3: don't exactly have Jalen Ramsey out there anymore, so you
Speaker 3: get a confidence he gets an early catch. I loved
Speaker 3: from a gambling perspective betting on Marvin Harrison whatever his
Speaker 3: props were, because last week it was so like it
Speaker 3: was such a big story. You knew they were going
Speaker 3: to try to feed him the ball right to get
Speaker 3: his confidence moving. They have a lot of talent, Like
Speaker 3: if Kyler's just he doesn't need to play like today.
Speaker 3: But if he's playing well, Trey McBride, if you just
Speaker 3: did this draft from scratch with GMS, would be a
Speaker 3: top five touch tight end. James Connor is a running
Speaker 3: back no one talks about. Whenever I was last year,
Speaker 3: this guy could play on my team and he dad yes,
Speaker 3: and like you said, my buddies with Philly, I know
Speaker 3: the way it ended right. Defensively, he got a lot
Speaker 3: of shit Gannon. They love the guy and they and
Speaker 3: I remember hearing like he might be a better head
Speaker 3: coach than he was a pure schematics guy, because how
Speaker 3: good he is with players, how good of a leader
Speaker 3: he is, the way he carries himself. He's a really
Speaker 3: smart guy. I don't know if they're a playoff team
Speaker 3: because the one thing with Kyler is he can be
Speaker 3: a very up and down. He's got a streak exactly
Speaker 3: like he could score thirty in the next game he
Speaker 3: scores five points like Buddy. But but when he's healthy,
Speaker 3: he is a He's He's on a top five list
Speaker 3: of guys that would keep defensive coordinators up throughout the
Speaker 3: week because he can do stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And like Minnesota, we may not love their overall roster,
Speaker 1: but you look at Minnesota's offensive pieces and they don't
Speaker 1: even have Jordan Madison. Yet it's like Minnesota's got left tackle,
Speaker 1: backed tight end, two receivers, quarterback coach, like they got dogs.
Speaker 1: I mean Arizona McBride, the two backs, Marvin Harrison, they
Speaker 1: had another kid make a nice catch in the back
Speaker 1: of the end zones like Kyler. I just watched them
Speaker 1: today and I'm like, I mean the two teams in
Speaker 1: the league that I've watched and I've went, Wow, Saints
Speaker 1: and even though they're one and one, Arizona that first
Speaker 1: half against Buffalo, Buffalo was on the ropes.
Speaker 3: The one thing Kyler and if you remember back, you know,
Speaker 3: was it three or four years ago when they started
Speaker 3: like eleven and one, he can like he wears down
Speaker 3: over the course of the year, as guys do get
Speaker 3: shots on him when he is healthy and clearly he
Speaker 3: is right now he can be like an MVP candidate.
Speaker 3: Can he look like that? And one thing that's very
Speaker 3: clear and the two a hit which was awful to
Speaker 3: watch was avoidable. He got a slide. Jaden Daniels, another guy,
Speaker 3: incredible runner, cannot slide the smart quarterbacks, like I thought
Speaker 3: the moment that to a moment happened, I was like,
Speaker 3: I bet every quarterback beside like golf, because you don't
Speaker 3: even need to show him this. And Kirk Cousins is
Speaker 3: gonna watch that like ten times with their quarterback coach,
Speaker 3: like you guys are too important to us to not slide. Yes,
Speaker 3: this is not the nineteen eighties and seventies, but you
Speaker 3: will still get injured if you run into these defenders.
Speaker 3: And if Kyler, who is a baseball player, is a
Speaker 3: good slider and it's so fast, can get to the
Speaker 3: edges and get out of bounce, can avoid just the
Speaker 3: meaningless hits you don't need. Jayden Daniels is taking like
Speaker 3: he has such a special talent, but he's taking so
Speaker 3: many meaningless brutal that just wears you over the course
Speaker 3: of the year. And eventually if a guy holds you
Speaker 3: up and another guy's coming in, it could injure season.
Speaker 3: Non I'm talking breaking a clavicle, breaking an arm. And
Speaker 3: I do think Kyler's now been around a long time
Speaker 3: and he has the capability to slide. He just every
Speaker 3: time he runs should never get tackled, right, And if
Speaker 3: I was them, I would never never call like a
Speaker 3: Josh Allen power run between the tackles. Any run beside
Speaker 3: when he's scrambling around is an edge run. But how
Speaker 3: do you not call something for him because he is
Speaker 3: that today? This is where you get if you're the
Speaker 3: Rams and the Bengals. When you lose, like the Rams
Speaker 3: lost a coin flip game week one, then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, it's snowballs. Now they're getting the Niners, who
Speaker 3: are also going to be pissed off who kind of
Speaker 3: owned you all of a sudden. You look, we're zero
Speaker 3: to three and we think we're pretty good. You know
Speaker 3: that can happen the Bengals. Same thing. All of a sudden,
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, that's why you got to take advantage
Speaker 3: when you have those coin flip games.
Speaker 1: I will say this, San Francisco lost, Baltimore Rams zho
Speaker 1: and two. It is a long season. I will stay Bengals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna circle back though, of all those teams big picture,
Speaker 1: let's wrap it up with this big picture of all
Speaker 1: the teams that are scrapping. I like Cincinnati. First of all,
Speaker 1: T Higgins is coming back. They just lost a game
Speaker 1: they could have won against Kansas City. That's a pretty
Speaker 1: damn good loss. Joe Burrow's fantastic. Burton will become more
Speaker 1: of a player. You know, he's just a young receiver.
Speaker 1: You got guys like him. Over a four or five
Speaker 1: game stretch, can become a different player. I think Baltimore's
Speaker 1: oh lines of mass. I think the Rams all lines
Speaker 1: a mess. Those are real concerns. I look at Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: John if they reeled off eight straight wins, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised.
Speaker 3: Well, they win every They beat every team in the
Speaker 3: league beside the Chiefs today. Right, I mean so that
Speaker 3: like that version of the game is a twelve thirteen
Speaker 3: win team. So I'm with you. I just you know,
Speaker 3: the Borough injury is always in the back of your head.
Speaker 3: Can he stay healthy? I just they do? You know,
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, you have to wonder if his outburst is
Speaker 3: a little A lot going on with his contract now
Speaker 3: he says I'm good for the season. They just got
Speaker 3: a lot going on. You know. T Higgins is having
Speaker 3: to answer questions like is he faking an injury because
Speaker 3: he's pissed off of the contract. This is this is
Speaker 3: a spot that if you told me, like Tomlin, you
Speaker 3: know John Harbaugh or Jim Harball was handling the guys
Speaker 3: Beck he can handle it. You see Zach trying to
Speaker 3: get Jamar Chase younger guy, even though he's now been
Speaker 3: a head coach for a what it's a tough position.
Speaker 3: It's not easy, but I'm with you. I mean, they're
Speaker 3: just when Joe's right, they're really good. The one team
Speaker 3: that I'm concerned of that I liked as a playoff
Speaker 3: team was our guy, Chris Ballard and Shane Steiken win
Speaker 3: Indy their quarterback to lose. I loved the Colts because
Speaker 3: I was like Malik Willis and then Malik Willis looked
Speaker 3: better than an Anthony Richardson, you know Bo Nicks or
Speaker 3: the rookie quarterback and he was bad andthy Richardson what
Speaker 3: was that? Well?
Speaker 1: And it concerned you because Steiken had Herbert as a rookie.
Speaker 1: Herbert set NFL rookie records. He made Jalen Hurts an
Speaker 1: MVP level player. This is the best off one he
Speaker 1: made Gardner Minshew last year. I mean Minshew had those
Speaker 1: guys on the doorstep. This Richardson thing, It's like he
Speaker 1: may be a remarkable player, but staffs matter. I mean,
Speaker 1: Malik Willis in the first half with Lafleur in that
Speaker 1: culture looked better than he ever did in Tennessee. I
Speaker 1: mean Tennessee gave up on that guy for about two games.
Speaker 1: He looked like, oh he could.
Speaker 3: He were good. I gave got credit. He was good.
Speaker 1: So now Shane Steichen's had an entire off season with
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson that was a mess. He looked lost.
Speaker 3: I do think what's scary is I think if you
Speaker 3: look at every you know, the highest level of sports,
Speaker 3: right just because you throw one hundred and two miles
Speaker 3: an hour, you could have the best pitching coach, he
Speaker 3: might not teach you how to throw strikes. You could be,
Speaker 3: you know, the most talented guy in the NBA, and
Speaker 3: you could get Chip England, the shooting coach, and he
Speaker 3: just can't help you out to make you know open shots.
Speaker 3: I do think in football, for every Josh Allen and
Speaker 3: guys that are able to improve their accuracy historically speaking,
Speaker 3: there are way more examples of guys that are just
Speaker 3: all over the map and right now, whether it's like
Speaker 3: we talked about Sam Darnold, it was way too sped
Speaker 3: up early on in his career, had a small You
Speaker 3: watch him, he is kind of set at times and
Speaker 3: the ball just flies. Yes, I mean like he has
Speaker 3: no he has no clue where it's going. You're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't know what you can do as a coach
Speaker 3: to fix that level of wells.
Speaker 1: Think about this, Malik Willis as Malik Willis as a
Speaker 1: spot starter, they had a forty minute to nineteen minute
Speaker 1: time of possession advantage with Shane Steikn.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, because when you're that inaccurate, you're gonna
Speaker 3: you're gonna give up plays. You're not gonna roll any time.
Speaker 1: Okay, So just look at the accuracy of Herbert as
Speaker 1: a rookie and Hurts as a young player, and we
Speaker 1: don't think the Packers defense is great. Shit, Philadelphia ran.
Speaker 2: Up and down like, oh, they looked terrible, terrible.
Speaker 1: He threw the ball thirty four times, he completed fifty percent,
Speaker 1: he had three picks, and he looked lost. So this
Speaker 1: is one of those things where Steiken has made every
Speaker 1: quarter he's taken, every quarterback he's had, and now I
Speaker 1: think Herbert will become what he was. With him, He's
Speaker 1: made everybody better. He had an off season like I
Speaker 1: wants that today, and I'm like, Malik Willis has better
Speaker 1: than that Richard at least.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in all interceptions like you were saying earlier, are
Speaker 3: not the same, Like Dak and Goff threw someone bad
Speaker 3: games off over the middle of the field, Like it's
Speaker 3: gonna happen. Those guys whatever, I still have faith in
Speaker 3: them over the course of the year. This is a
Speaker 3: guy that if you're like, hey, you can jump off
Speaker 3: the bandwagon right now, I think you'd have to lean
Speaker 3: that way. I guess it's possible to correct it. It
Speaker 3: feels like it would be have to be a pretty
Speaker 3: hard correction on this player. Because the other thing is
Speaker 3: Jalen people question like his arm strength and his past,
Speaker 3: but he did have Like this guy played for Saban,
Speaker 3: then he went to Lincoln Riley Gardner Minshew had already
Speaker 3: been a starter in the NFL. That this guy has
Speaker 3: a very limited track record in college and the pros
Speaker 3: and accuracy was a huge question mark. And the other
Speaker 3: thing you see is Jalen does have touch, like he's
Speaker 3: a great deep ball thrower down the sideline. This guy
Speaker 3: has no change up. Everything is going at warp speed.
Speaker 3: And when everything's going at warp speed, it is very
Speaker 3: difficult to be considered an accurate quarterback. And the other
Speaker 3: thing is Paul's fly off. Guy's hands go up in
Speaker 3: the air and usually a safety is behind your offensive player.
Speaker 3: It's gonna lead to a lot of This guy could
Speaker 3: easily lead the league interceptions this season, I would I
Speaker 3: would say he's the betting favorite.
Speaker 1: Well, and as we talket Green Bay Colts, I think
Speaker 1: the one thing that I've really noticed is, you know,
Speaker 1: you always have to be careful. The grass is always greener,
Speaker 1: and you know Aaron's seeing it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: You go from Matt Lafleur to Matt Hackett. You know,
Speaker 1: you go from the Packers always have a stable offensive
Speaker 1: line to the Jets.
Speaker 2: Kind of makeshift.
Speaker 1: You go from no owner stability, Mark Murphy to the
Speaker 1: Jets impulsive ownership. Is I think Matt Lafleur got a
Speaker 1: little lost because you know, McCarthy won a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and then he takes over and he had some playoff
Speaker 1: struggles and we always lump those on Matt Lafleur. That's
Speaker 1: why you're losing in the playoffs. Matt Lafleur, I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you, I'm watching Jordan Love at the end of
Speaker 1: last year and I'm watching Malik Willis today, and those
Speaker 1: guys are both talented. But Jordan Love last year to
Speaker 1: start the season, John was raw, like he looked like
Speaker 1: he just wasn't what Jordan Love went from I mean
Speaker 1: really bad to like an MVP over the course of
Speaker 1: the season, like you you know, you know, you don't
Speaker 1: get an off season. You're in the middle of it.
Speaker 1: Malik Willis today and again, maybe I'm making too much.
Speaker 1: That'll be the only game he starts, but I was like, shit,
Speaker 1: he's totally under control.
Speaker 3: The other thing is this is not a player that
Speaker 3: was with them in OTA's and training camp. They traded
Speaker 3: for him at the end of the fifty three man.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: You could argue through two weeks the most impressive win
Speaker 3: of the season is Matt Lafleur winning a game with
Speaker 3: Malik Willis. I would say that's an incredible accomplished.
Speaker 1: Incredible and I think we've all because they struggled last
Speaker 1: couple of years with Aaron in the playoffs, I.
Speaker 2: Think he took the hit on that.
Speaker 1: But I always feel with Aaron, and this is not
Speaker 1: disrespectful Aaron, but Aaron was going to blow him off
Speaker 1: on certain play. Aaron's gonna do what Aaron.
Speaker 2: Wants to do.
Speaker 1: So it was a fifty to fifty offense. I mean,
Speaker 1: Aaron's coachable, but he was gonna do what he want
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Matt wanted him to play under center in the Shanahan
Speaker 3: offense to give him a lot of layups, and Aaron
Speaker 3: fought against it because he loved being in the shotgun,
Speaker 3: like you said, and seeing everything. And they kind of
Speaker 3: met in the middle, and what happened. He started to
Speaker 3: win MVPs. Matt Ryan pushed against it early on because
Speaker 3: you turn your back once you get comfortable shooting fish
Speaker 3: in a barrel for those type guys. But Aaron loved
Speaker 3: doing his thing in the shotgun and now he can
Speaker 3: just run his offense. But today I don't even he
Speaker 3: just to corral Malik Willis with probably less than ten
Speaker 3: to twelve plays. I mean, it's just I don't care
Speaker 3: how bad the Colts are on defense. What a win
Speaker 3: for the package, I.
Speaker 1: Know, huge win, you know, I almost look at that
Speaker 1: Brazil game with the and I'm just like, okay, the
Speaker 1: youngest team in the league went to Brazil. They stayed
Speaker 1: like two hours away from the stadium. Was like, I
Speaker 1: don't even count that.
Speaker 3: It just matters how quick they You know, is Jordan
Speaker 3: Love going to miss a month? Is he able to
Speaker 3: come back in a week? You know? I mean they
Speaker 3: kind of slow played us this week. Clearly he wasn't
Speaker 3: gonna play, But is he Is he closer to being
Speaker 3: ready next week or is he a month away? Like
Speaker 3: if they can get them back in two or three
Speaker 3: weeks and just go five hundred with Malik Willis, they'd
Speaker 3: be off and running and you'd be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: they were like at the beginning of the season. I
Speaker 3: like them to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: On more NFL Scout, his podcast is three and out.
Speaker 1: He's as good as they get. We crushed it, buddy,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go watch the Bears.
Speaker 3: Same And do you know what, really before you get that,
Speaker 3: I like, once we get into like week four or
Speaker 3: five and they're bye weeks, it is really hard to
Speaker 3: watch eight games a once. Like guy had to go like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm just not gonna watch the Browns and Jacks, right
Speaker 3: now I don't need to. There's just too many games
Speaker 3: going on in the morning.
Speaker 1: No. I mean that Washington, New York was actually wildly entertaining,
Speaker 1: but I had that on I can't pay attention to
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