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Speaker 1: Welcome to the news show. On this week's show, we

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Speaker 1: got an interesting tale about a big ass more a Eel.

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Speaker 1: Spencer Newhart can't ride a bike and fish at the

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Speaker 1: same time. Testicle Jerky news our shyris Moose going away,

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Speaker 1: but not in the way you think. Poachers get serious

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Speaker 1: in North Dakota and Max gets serious about reporting on

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Speaker 1: those poachers. Spencer Newhart stops to tell the flowers get it.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if we get it.

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Speaker 1: Nate Mason has a report on TSS and more. But

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Speaker 1: first the more Aeel.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is the our news. Listen to this. We

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Speaker 1: were down in the We went to the Bahamas for

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Speaker 1: spring break. Folks who watch the show, we filmed episode

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Speaker 1: sometime ago with Cameron kirk Connell and Cameron kirk connell.

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Speaker 1: If you're such a listener that you listen to our

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Speaker 1: Close Calls story stories the Close Call series, there's a

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Speaker 1: Close Calls where a guy, a spearfisherman, shoots another spearfisherman

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Speaker 1: in the fin who's passed out. He's blacked out, shallow water, blackout,

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Speaker 1: and he's sinking to the bottom of the ocean. Camer

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Speaker 1: Kirkconnell is able to get close enough to him. He's

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Speaker 1: on his way up and he sees his buddy's sinking dying,

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Speaker 1: and he shoots him in the fin with his spear

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Speaker 1: gun and then they were able to hoist him up

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Speaker 1: as they resuscitate him and save his life. Wow, we're

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Speaker 1: with him and his family, my family, his family in

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Speaker 1: the Bahamas spearfishing, and we're primarily hole hunting. Like you

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Speaker 1: go down there, you just kind of go over the reefs.

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Speaker 1: You kick or drift in the current over the reefs,

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Speaker 1: and now and then you'll catch a hog fish out

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Speaker 1: doing his business. But you spook a lot of groupers.

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Speaker 1: And when you spook a grouper, you just follow them,

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Speaker 1: and that group is gonna move and move, and he'll

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Speaker 1: go into a hole, but he won't like it and

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Speaker 1: he'll leave the hole. He'll try another hole. He'll go

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Speaker 1: into a hole in the little group will come out

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Speaker 1: and eventually you follow and follow and follow him and

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Speaker 1: he'll find a hole and they'll hole up and you

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Speaker 1: and then you start hole hunting them and it could

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Speaker 1: turn into chasing them into a hole is one thing.

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Speaker 1: Killing them is a whole other thing. And then getting

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Speaker 1: them back out of the holes the whole other thing.

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Speaker 1: So it turns into like a real it could turn

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Speaker 1: into a real fistfight. So my kid goes down. We

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Speaker 1: get a big black grouper in a hole. My kid

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Speaker 1: goes down and uh, it was a thirty pound grouper.

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Speaker 1: My kid goes down and like glances it in the

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Speaker 1: head but doesn't like wings it in the head, but

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Speaker 1: doesn't even hurt it. Cam's kid goes down and gets

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Speaker 1: at the tail. It's fighting around, and Alston and I

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Speaker 1: go down to try to get it out, but the

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Speaker 1: spear shaft has pulled free of the grouper's tail. The

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Speaker 1: grouper comes out of that hole and goes into a

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Speaker 1: new hole. Cam's down with this flashlight trying to look

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Speaker 1: around and find them. In this nude It's like some

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Speaker 1: of these things are like Tora Bora. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you remember back to that the war in Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: They're like the Bora Cave complex. You're appreciating, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Nate Mason's appreciating Oh Joined today by Max Barta, Nate Mason,

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Speaker 1: Crinch Nighters here, Spencer new Heart, Brody Henderson. So he's

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Speaker 1: down looking around with his light, and I see he's

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Speaker 1: like looking into one hole and it says Tora bora complex.

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Speaker 1: And some of these holes have chimneys in them, and

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Speaker 1: you can sometimes you get him into a hole and

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Speaker 1: you'll sometimes peer into a chimney and locate them. He's

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Speaker 1: got his head and he's to his waste in a

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Speaker 1: on the surface and I see a morey eel, the

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Speaker 1: likes of which I mean like this eel just keeps

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Speaker 1: that the troubles are bruin, they're like sharks, like.

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Speaker 2: He knows a big one though, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He knows what's up. How big? How big? Yeah, probably

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Speaker 1: He comes and all a sudden he enters the same

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Speaker 1: by his body language. He doesn't know. He didn't encounter

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Speaker 1: oh my god, dude, I thought you could get bit

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Speaker 1: and we're just hovering there, and a while later, here

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Speaker 1: and sure enough that here comes that group are out

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Speaker 1: substantially more wounded, like was getting mauled, was getting mauled

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Speaker 1: in the hole mm hmm by the eel. Wow. And

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Speaker 1: he's not in a good he's not in a good place.

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Speaker 4: An that thing was just down there taking chunks out.

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Speaker 1: So then we went down and shot. Then we went

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Speaker 1: and shot the grouper for real. Then he went into

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Speaker 1: another hole and then I was able to wrestle him

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Speaker 1: just like instantly, he's like, oh he's coming out.

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Speaker 5: You know how you got like bird dogs, you need

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Speaker 5: like group of eels?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, if you got to eel in your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't. Can you spear more?

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Speaker 2: Al? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I've seen you talk to people that have done it.

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Speaker 1: You got your hands full when you do that. I've

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Speaker 1: been told I can't even imagine what would be like

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Speaker 1: because Bahamas' pole spear only you can't use a spear gun,

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Speaker 1: so it's all polespes but slip tips on him like

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Speaker 1: you're just probably just gonna forget about your spear, like

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Speaker 1: you're not going to get it. Yeah, and this thing,

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Speaker 1: I mean, no, I've been bit by those suckers. They

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Speaker 1: hurt how the group of taste I ate that particular grouper.

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Speaker 1: But did you eat a group of flat It was

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Speaker 1: kind of missing a chunk on the tail. Yeah, the mauled.

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Speaker 4: And they see where it was messed up.

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Speaker 1: You enjoyed it? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yes, that thing had the like dark cutter equivalent end

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Speaker 1: I don't think that works on fish.

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Speaker 2: Wildly stress because a stressed.

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Speaker 1: But he had a Yeah, he had a good we

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Speaker 1: we we messed with that fish for probably forty five minutes.

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Speaker 4: Damn wouldn't adventure.

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Speaker 1: They turned in some wrestling matches. Man, Uh, all right,

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Speaker 1: you did? You did a bicycle trip spencer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been I've been working on planning this for

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Speaker 4: like a month, just getting my my gear ready for it.

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Speaker 4: I was going to bike and fly fish at the

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Speaker 4: same time. The fly fishing was no good though. I

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Speaker 4: was in Yellowstone National Park this time of year. Ninety

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Speaker 4: five percent of their water is closed to angling.

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Speaker 3: Why was that purposes or no?

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Speaker 4: I think to protect some native spawners, just to like

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Speaker 4: in general, give fish a break down there. I don't

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Speaker 4: think it's uncommon even in like Montana on non national park.

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Speaker 1: What is there like an opening day or something?

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Speaker 4: There is an opening day YEP, that comes around in May,

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Speaker 4: I think for most of the water, but other parts

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Speaker 4: have different openers. Anyway, it's only five percent of water

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Speaker 4: into there as well as like probably eighty percent of

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Speaker 4: their roads were closed as well. So missus Newhart, come

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Speaker 4: with you, No no solo me, Me and a buddy

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Speaker 4: from town here was fixing the bike, and I never

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Speaker 4: got a you don't like yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like to say no. I like to be able

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Speaker 4: So I I biked in started fishing. The fishing was

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Speaker 4: no good. Run off as started a little early this year,

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Speaker 4: and that like five percent of water that I could

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Speaker 4: fish it was just too dirty, too terrible, couldn't couldn't

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Speaker 1: When you pitched this segment, I think Brody pitched on

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Speaker 1: Your Behalf, well, it was it was in anticipation of

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, it was gonna be good. I was

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Speaker 4: fishing trip. It wasn't gonna be a bike trip anymore.

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Speaker 4: The other thing happened. The fishing was so bad that

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Speaker 4: it was just a bike trip. So I ended up

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Speaker 4: biking forty eight miles oh Yellowstone this weekend. You know,

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Speaker 4: I could probably spend four hours fishing with no fish caught,

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Speaker 4: not a nibble. There was a nibble. I had a

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Speaker 4: trout offer at a streamer, had him on for probably

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Speaker 4: distance release, long distance release, and couldn't couldn't even identify

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Speaker 4: you see anything crazy crazy, no bice, I mean, what

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Speaker 2: No dead no dead critters, laying dead critters.

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Speaker 4: I was ready for bears, though they had bears show

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Speaker 4: up earlier this year, five days sooner.

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Speaker 1: My neighbor just had one in his garbage. Couldn't believe

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Speaker 4: Bison, elk kyo, muskrat, just some standard Ye saw some scratch?

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Speaker 4: Did you one one? And we got a good view

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Speaker 4: to him because I was on a bridge looking down him.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen him do this before, but at one

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Speaker 4: point he spent probably like thirty seconds, he just gave

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Speaker 4: himself to the current and floated down the current, and

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Speaker 4: he looked like he was totally careless and then he

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Speaker 4: dove under.

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Speaker 3: After that, I heard the.

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Speaker 2: River the trappings.

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Speaker 1: Real good, we do great, I bet you do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we have a story coming up on something about that.

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Speaker 1: Oh we stack him up down there, man, as we

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Speaker 1: aus no one else hits it.

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Speaker 4: It's good.

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Speaker 1: You never figure out what's going on the season.

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Speaker 2: Something wrong?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Spencer tell us about hunt giveaway man, Well,

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Speaker 1: is that your job? We at my job?

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Speaker 4: You you do that one. Oh, I'll cover the next one.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, all right, uh right now Turkey Week.

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Speaker 1: Turkey Week is on now at the meet either start

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Speaker 1: so help you get ready to spring. We've rounded up

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Speaker 1: some of our favorite gear for chasing gobblers, whether you're

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Speaker 1: chasing them myriams or them them hard goblin Easterns. I

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Speaker 1: heard one ripped the other day from my house in Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I told you they were going, and then we had

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm hoping we can raise a some ducklings

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Speaker 1: The first thing we'll see is we'll see a duck

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Speaker 4: local or a migrator?

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00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 3: Probably a local for sure. Yeah, there's like a group.

437
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't say a group, but there's probably

438
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: like five to six pairs on our ponds right now,

439
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: and so I'm hoping one of those hops in there.

440
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: So that's great.

441
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't.

442
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 4: See's got the ba if you were ducks Max, that's great.

443
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

444
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

445
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 3: People can look at adult Waterfall dot org to find

446
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 3: out more about these hein houses. Then there's different programs

447
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: where you can donate some money and I'll actually like

448
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 3: get henhouses.

449
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: See that's what it's telling you. I want a couple,

450
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: I know, just wrong to put my.

451
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 3: Well, I know a guy, my buddy, Garrett Humphrey, who

452
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 3: helps out with the local chapter here in Bozeman. He's

453
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 3: got a pile of them, so yep, I'd like to

454
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 3: do that. Yeah, we'll get just where to put them.

455
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for corrections. Corrections, corrections, Okay, uh corrections today.

456
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: The winner of today's corrections wins the setup to COB's boots.

457
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm holding one up right here, But you can pick

458
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: what everyone's you want these maybe miss Sess been out

459
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: on paternity leave.

460
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: What size or those.

461
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: Ten and a half? Ten and a half. I'm just

462
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: guessing sesspen out on paternityly but he wears he wears

463
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: a square toe. Every time I touch this, I feel

464
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: like I'm touching sets foot. You can pick what you want.

465
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what though, dude, just the leather smells

466
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: like brand new leather. Go pick out and eat to

467
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: covid as you want if you win the corrections. Now,

468
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: we had to do something a little bit different. So, oh,

469
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: Nate Mason's here. Nate Mason came up with this joke

470
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: a little late, but he came up with it never.

471
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, shit kickers for nitpickers.

472
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: The most genius thing I've heard all week. Shit kickers

473
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: from nitpickers. Uh. But here's the deal. So many corrections

474
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: came in about TSS. Brody's who did you do TSS report?

475
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: A lot of people fired up about TSS. And don't

476
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: worry because we're going to talk a lot about TSS

477
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: today in the news segment here. So we're gonna do

478
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: a quick showdown. Of course, when in order to win

479
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: the boots, there's three corrections. But we're doing like a

480
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: deal this week. We got to do a competition to

481
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: enter the competition, so very quickly, three TSS. The winner

482
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: of this goes to the finals. No March madness like golf. No,

483
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: it's like March madness.

484
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 7: This next round here, this first TSS round of corrections.

485
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: These are some nit pickers man.

486
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: Okay, ship kickers for nickers. Okay, So for a spot

487
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: in the finals. TSS correction one. My name is Ian

488
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: up where's my glass? And I'm from Upstate New York.

489
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: While listening to episode eight five three, and you were

490
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: talking about TSS, ammo and we're not totally sure on

491
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: when they were introduced, and again a clarification, an omission a,

492
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: that's corrections. Sure, he says, twenty eighteen, Federal Premium became

493
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: the first large manufacturer to produce TSS great twenty eighteen,

494
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: thank you, TSS two slight correction to the claim. I

495
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: believe it was Brody's claim that tungsten is very heat resistant. Well,

496
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: he goes out. The corrector says, tungsten is actually the

497
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: most heat resistant pure metals. All. Yeah, No, very huge difference.

498
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: If I say the tallest man on Earth and he

499
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: comes in, and I go, this is my buddy. He's

500
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: very tall, right, and someone's like, well, he's the tallest

501
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: man on Earth. I think it's just no, it's different.

502
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: I would say, here's my buddy, he's the tallest man

503
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: on earth. Okay, it's just different.

504
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 9: There are a lot more men than there are kinds

505
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 9: of metal.

506
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: Okay, the melting's going to get a correction. The melting

507
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: get this, get just close your eyes and picture this.

508
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: The melting point is six thousand ninety two fahrenheit seven

509
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: hundred degrees higher. What's the handle them?

510
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: What's the temperature of the sun?

511
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: A lot. I go so far as to say it's

512
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: the hottest thing.

513
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: It wouldn't survive the sun.

514
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: That's why it's used as an electrode. When tig welding,

515
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: which was introduced in the nineteen forties, he goes down

516
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: to say very heat resistant.

517
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 7: Ha, it actually says very heat resistant is not an

518
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 7: incorrect claim.

519
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: Oh, that's what it says.

520
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 5: It doesn't do the metal justice.

521
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: Okay, So Brody under selling tungsten. Oh yeah, TSS number three.

522
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: Next, I oversell.

523
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: It, bro TSS number three, He starts out. I appreciate this.

524
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: He starts out, says I don't have the credit or

525
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: the credentials to offer this correction. He says, in fact,

526
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm horrible as science related subjects. But that just goes

527
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: to show that any person can do good. Regular Joe, Yeah,

528
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: but Brody can't do good.

529
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 2: No.

530
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy says, I have a forty year old

531
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: Why does that matter?

532
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 5: Like a cousin who's maybe.

533
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 7: Maybe he's very young, and he's trying to establish bona

534
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 7: fides because his cousin is old.

535
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 4: Well, he's going to tell you about a Christmas thing.

536
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: You know, his cousin's forty. I don't care. You know

537
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: what it could be that he's like, we've been cousin

538
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: so long, you know, I don't think that's it. Okay,

539
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: he's got a forty year old cousin to ask for this.

540
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: Cousin asked for Christmas. Oh, I get it now. What

541
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: kind of four year.

542
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 9: Old guy six year would ask?

543
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: Okay, that's why it's goofy. His goofy forty year old

544
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: cousin requested a one by one inch piece of tungsten.

545
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: This guy says it is heavy. He says it's so heavy.

546
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: They talk about that it like it has its own

547
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: gravitational pull, which it does. But he's not a science guy. Yes,

548
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: you're right, that is gravity pulling on your cube. He

549
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: goes down with this correction. When Brody last week said

550
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: that TSS is twice as dense as lead, I kept thinking,

551
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: there's no way.

552
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 7: I would like the true because I think I said

553
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 7: about twice, but.

554
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: You said twice. Because he says there's no way, because

555
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: I've held a two point two pound cube of tungsten,

556
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: and in fact Brody was wrong. Tungsten isn't twice as heavy.

557
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: It's one point time. One point seven times is dense.

558
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: And math that's a long ways, I guess.

559
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: He says, I know this is splitting hairs, but if

560
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: it was two x, then it would be the here's

561
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: where it rubber hits the road. It this is where

562
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: gets mean. No, if it was two x as Brody claimed,

563
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: it would be the densest naturally occurring material on Earth.

564
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: Why can't we have some of this stuff?

565
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: But it's not. It's that is held by osmium, which

566
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: is one point nine nine times as dense as led.

567
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: So not only was Brody wrong when he said two times,

568
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: but the thing that's more dense than it still is

569
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: it two times? He was very wrong, very wrong. But

570
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: this person pitches the idea of osmium super shot exactly.

571
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what osmium is going for these days,

572
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: but I've never heard of it, which makes me think

573
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: it's not his correction though, well, here can you hold it?

574
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: Because there's a problem. These guys aren't even in corrections.

575
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: Who do we vote for to advance to the finals?

576
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: We have Brody being wrong about Brody being wrong about

577
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: not knowing when it came out, we have Brody being

578
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: wrong about how hot you got to get it to

579
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: miss I like the last one, And we have Brody

580
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: being wrong about how dense it.

581
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: Is the last one because.

582
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: Okay, so he's into the finals.

583
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 9: I like his I like his flavor text at the

584
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 9: end about osmium to No.

585
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: He did a really good job. And he's the guy

586
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: who's not a science guy. Okay, so he's in the finals.

587
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: So that is correction number one.

588
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 4: He's going to have to give one of his boots

589
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: to his cousin.

590
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: Though, who knows. Maybe they I don't know, they only

591
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: have one. I don't know, who knows, we kind of

592
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. Watching a movie the other night and

593
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: it was and it was mostly cast with just non actors. Okay,

594
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: it's a phenomenal movie. And there was one of the

595
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: main characters is missing an arm and one of the

596
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: main characters is missing a leg, and I was thinking

597
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: to myself, that's such an interesting call. And then I

598
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: read that they didn't use professional actors. They just cast

599
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: it from people that they saw and introduced themselves to

600
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: and cast the movie that way.

601
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: You don't want to tell us what it's called.

602
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: French movie, it's it's a lot of French, a lot

603
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: of Spanish. It's a dude trying to find his daughter

604
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: who is vanished into the into the Moroccan desert. Rave

605
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: scene and it has mega mad Max overtones and gets

606
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: very stressful.

607
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: Netflix or No.

608
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: I bought it on this I've been every day. I

609
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: checked to see if it was available, and became available.

610
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: I bought it for a lot of money on Apple

611
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: on you know, the iTunes store whatever they call that nowadays,

612
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: the Apple Store. Yeah, go on, Brody's going to offer

613
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: a correction.

614
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.

615
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Apple TV.

616
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 7: Hopefully you guys were listening a couple of weeks back

617
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 7: when we talked about the Colorado fur Band. We've got

618
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 7: a correction from Jeff. I don't have his last name,

619
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 7: but we'll figure it out if we need to. Okay,

620
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 7: I just listened to the news podcast where you talked

621
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 7: about the Colorado Furband petition voted on by the CPW Commission.

622
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 7: During that bit, Steve remarked that nuisance beaver's and other

623
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 7: fur bears taken for nuisance reasons will now be left

624
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 7: to right with no fur taken. That's actually not true.

625
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 7: That's the insane part of this story that's not being told,

626
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 7: and honestly, I'm not.

627
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: Sure if it should be told. I'll let you be

628
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: the judge.

629
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: I like this because he's saying I messed up, But

630
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: it's because it's so insane that it's excusable that I

631
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: messed up.

632
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know off the hook.

633
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 7: Okay, when the when the Commission adopts the regulation banning

634
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 7: the sale of wild animal furs in Colorado, it will

635
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 7: only apply to fur bears taken recreationally. Statutes are already

636
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 7: in place that state fur bear is taken for damage

637
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 7: or agricultural purposes can be retained or sold by those

638
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 7: taken those those that have taken that statutes trump regulations.

639
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 7: This is in both Title thirty three and Title thirty

640
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 7: five of the Colorado Revived Statutes.

641
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: YadA, YadA.

642
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 7: It is an enforced, unenforceable law, and the Commission was

643
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 7: told as much by CPW law enforcement.

644
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: As soon as a bobcat.

645
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 7: Is sealed, there's no way to know if it was

646
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 7: harvested recreationally or through damage purposes. This is the part

647
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 7: that makes me uncomfortable with those for the ban. I

648
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 7: don't want them to know this loophole. Oh, there's any

649
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 7: There isn't any way to find out if any fur

650
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 7: bear was taken for damaged purposes. You can still harvest

651
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 7: fur bears recreationally and nothing says you can't sell them

652
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 7: in another state either. This whole thing is ridiculous and

653
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 7: the commission shame CPW, and this ridiculous prize says, oh.

654
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Speaker 1: Because a little thanks to Brody read that party.

655
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Speaker 7: I can tell you that CPW is as frustrated with

656
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 7: this as you are, which is this is good job.

657
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: Brody has correction number two. So to recap, we got

658
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: osmium super shot. Brody screwed up on the fur band.

659
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 9: No, you did, but it's okay.

660
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: Here's the last one. This is a good one. This

661
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: is an important one. On the most recent news podcast,

662
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: Bear Newcomb mentioned that Oklahoma was working toward approving the

663
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: release of captive deer that are and Bear used this

664
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Speaker 1: word that are immune to CWD into the wild. I

665
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: wish I would have caught that. I didn't catch that

666
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: very rightfully. The guy says the correct term would be resistant. Okay,

667
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: even though that is still in question, and he talks

668
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: about how we ourselves covered that episode seven six in

669
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Speaker 1: the podcast titled The Truth about Chronic Wasting Disease. Okay, So,

670
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: according to the National Deer Association, deer that carry the

671
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: nine to six SS genotype could experience a longer incubation

672
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: period prior to perishing to the disease, but this does

673
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: not prevent them from getting it. So resistant or delayed

674
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: but not known to be immune. Okay, so there's the

675
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: three things. The Brody being wrong on tungsten, me being

676
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: understandably mistaken on the Colorado furband, or Bear Newcom not

677
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: choosing his words carefully on chronic wasting disease. This is tough,

678
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: this for the cod boots.

679
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: Let's go around the table.

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00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: Max, No, no, you don't vote like that.

681
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: Come on, I want to build up tension.

682
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: Tungsten, Tungsten, vote that quickly. Hold but Phil, what did

683
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: you vote for?

684
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 10: I was gonna vote for number two?

685
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: So you did vote. It's not decided. I'm sorry, Tungsten. Okay,

686
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: just I'm just out of curiosity. What were you gonna

687
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: vote for?

688
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 10: Number two?

689
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 4: I do see w D what you guys lost. It's fine.

690
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: So the tungsten guy not only did he win the playoffs, yeah.

691
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 5: Wow, Chris Lund.

692
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 10: But he didn't have a mistake.

693
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 5: We will reach out to you.

694
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 11: His cube dimensions should be one inch by one inch

695
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 11: by one inch.

696
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well take that, Chris if it's a cube,

697
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 7: then it's implied by one inch cube.

698
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 10: So Chris, you know, just check it.

699
00:37:54,600 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's send him some uh one side. Yeah, we

700
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Speaker 1: might have to like scuff him, like scuff him up

701
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: a little bit or something for you gotta scuff him up.

702
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: That's a great point. Yeah, one inch cube. That covers

703
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: it in his face.

704
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: He did say he doesn't have he lacks credentials, So come.

705
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 9: On, well, is redundancy you know, is that something we

706
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 9: need to correct?

707
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: You know?

708
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 9: Yes, bait.

709
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: Okay, if someone wrote in and he says, hey, I

710
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: got a correction about redundancy, I'd let it slip in there.

711
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: He might win some boots. I don't know. Great, all right,

712
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: Brody audience emails. Brody Kid wrote in about some lambs.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is great because it's not an email. It's

714
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 7: actually a handwritten letter. So I love this kid already.

715
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 4: We just got this today breaking news.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Hello.

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Speaker 7: My name is Easton Sutter. I'm twelve years old and

718
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Speaker 7: I am a sixth grader at Fort Recovery Junior High

719
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Speaker 7: and Fort Recovery, Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Kid writes a great letter. Fort Recovery is.

721
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Speaker 4: A small rural farm town in the middle of nowhere

722
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Speaker 4: that nobody.

723
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Speaker 2: Has ever heard of.

724
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: It really sets the sea.

725
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

726
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 7: I love hunting, fishing, and pretty much anything in nature.

727
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 7: This past year I went turkey, rabbit and deer hunting

728
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 7: with my dad. This past year season, I shot my

729
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 7: first buck. My favorite part of hunting is spending one

730
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Speaker 7: on one time with my dad. When you ride in

731
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Speaker 7: the car, the first thing we typically do is turn

732
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Speaker 7: on the Meat Eater podcast or trivia, but sadly we

733
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Speaker 7: have not gotten to try Meat Eater turtle. There you go,

734
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Speaker 7: Spencer has tried your wordle turtle. My dad is really

735
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Speaker 7: good at trivia and would make a great addition to

736
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Speaker 7: the Meat Eater crew. I love that I am an

737
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Speaker 7: active member of This is where it gets real good.

738
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Speaker 7: I'm an active member of four h and this year

739
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Speaker 7: my project. For my project, I have to show I

740
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Speaker 7: have two show lambs. Their names are Steve and Brody.

741
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Speaker 7: There was a third named Yanni, but it had a

742
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Speaker 7: bummed leg and was sent to the chop house.

743
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Speaker 1: Sounds about right.

744
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 2: I wanted to know if you would like to bid

745
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Speaker 2: on my lamb.

746
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Speaker 7: So if you guys want to figure that out, the audience,

747
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Speaker 7: you can bid on his lambs. The money I will

748
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Speaker 7: make will go into future college expenses, and if you

749
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Speaker 7: are interested, I have closed the information to do so.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for your time and I look forward to

751
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 7: hearing back from you. Here's to lots more car rides

752
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 7: with meat Eater on the radio.

753
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: So does he ship those lambs the lamb meat to us?

754
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. We'll have to get in touch with him.

755
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: He used snail mail, so we're gonna have to figure

756
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Speaker 2: it out.

757
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Speaker 1: Huh, hope someone buys the land easton Sutter.

758
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Speaker 7: If you're listening to us, send us an email so

759
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Speaker 7: we can, uh, we can figure some stuff out for you.

760
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Speaker 1: Someone I know offered to have a bunch of pasture

761
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: and they offered to my daughter that she could raise

762
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Speaker 1: a cow on there. So she's telling everybody she's gonna

763
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Speaker 1: start raising paddle the money. I'm like, what look into

764
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: this little bit. There's a couple of complicating factors here.

765
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Speaker 1: We need to consider.

766
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Speaker 2: Amiani from the chop House.

767
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Speaker 1: Okay, I just thought here's another one. Oh, this is

768
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: just an update. Remember if you guys listened to the show,

769
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Speaker 1: you remember we were really pushing that mountain goat raffle

770
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: in Alaska. Man that came in. That was a great

771
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: fundraiser for the organization they raised. You guys, really, you

772
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: guys did two things. Everyone that came into support, and

773
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: we drove a bunch of support. There. You did two things.

774
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: You helped them raise a bunch of money, and you

775
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: also shot your odds to all to help on the

776
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: on the Alaska Mountain Goat raffle. They raised one hundred

777
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: and ten thousand, seven hundred and ninety five thousand dollars,

778
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: says the far and away the most money raised with

779
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: an Alaska goat tag. Damn. They're real happy with all that. Now,

780
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: I noticed that I have not gotten my tag in

781
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: the mail. Then it might because I don't know. I'm

782
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: those statistician about these odds are rough. On top of

783
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: this the Delta Junction Bison tag. Get this two hundred

784
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: and thirteen grand, four hundred and forty thousand dollars. Unreal.

785
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: That's that's what I like to see, Is I like

786
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: to see those raffles?

787
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Speaker 7: Yeah, because that's getting up into Governor's tag money there.

788
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: Yep, because you got this whole We've talked about one

789
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: hundred times on the podcast. You got the Governor's tags

790
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: they auction it to the highest bidder, and it brings

791
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: a lot of money for stuff. But it's just like

792
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: like Joe blow working dude is not in the running

793
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: on a governor's tag, and it puts the conservation groups

794
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: in a pickle. You could do a raffle and have

795
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: anybody have a chance to win, but you're not going

796
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: to raise much money. You do a governor's tag and

797
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: and you have like a handful of billionaires have a

798
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: chance to win, and it's a bunch of money. So

799
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: to see these really successful, like really successful raffles is

800
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: cool because like anybody can participate, everybody's got a chance

801
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: to win, and then you still get a nice price

802
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: tag toward conservation work.

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00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 3: What was the price for putting in for the raffle?

804
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I bought. I bought. I bought an

805
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: undisclosed dollar amount worth of entries. Okay, not that I didn't.

806
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: I didn't didn't go crazy.

807
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: I'll disclose about a hundred bucks worth of entry. Yeah,

808
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: about a hundred bucks.

809
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 4: Oh brody, Oh yeah, it's Turkey Week.

810
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 7: I covered this a little bit in the first part

811
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 7: of this in Radio Live, I think a while back.

812
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 7: But I'll start over and cover both parts.

813
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, we didn't eat the damn it. Where's

814
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: this part where we eat the jerky? Yeah I missed that. Okay,

815
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: do you want to start off?

816
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

817
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have so. Remember we were talking

818
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: on the news show about making jerky out of nuts,

819
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: dear nuts. Okay, he sent us the nuts, and I

820
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: was saying, don't poisonous, he said. The guy rode in,

821
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: one grown man to another. You a dry deer nut

822
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: is one of the weirdest things I've done. Now, my

823
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: wife told me to send you some of that dried heart.

824
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for you, I have eaten the heart. It was excellent.

825
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 1: You are one of the few hunters that he says,

826
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: some nice stuff. He fought fire up here, and he

827
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Speaker 1: goes on the jerky. I dry smoke and preserved meat

828
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: as folks has for generations before me. In my neck

829
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: of the woods, the Caddo and Comanche tribes dried strips

830
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: of meat that sustained him throughout the year. So here's

831
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Speaker 1: the nut. So he's got one nut, says normal non

832
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: nut jerky contains no nuts. You guys, try that, this

833
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: is just meat. And then here's the dry testicle. This

834
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Speaker 1: is deer nut jerky. He wrote a note to saying

835
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Speaker 1: that he didn't poison us, not because of it was

836
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: like technically hard. He says, he's not that kind of guy.

837
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Speaker 4: Ah, it'd be easy to pull off though, if he.

838
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: Was saying if he wanted to poison us, he would have.

839
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: But he's just that that that kind of guy. So

840
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: here's the nut. This is the This is a dried nut.

841
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: Are you expecting has that texture?

842
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 5: Because when it's.

843
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: Carved, me off a honk of that? Or does it break?

844
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: Does it just tastes like smoked charaoke flavor?

845
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 4: It looks the same as the rest of the jerky,

846
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 4: like like jerky.

847
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 5: But nuts are nuts are much whiter than you.

848
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: Can give a dispenser names off putting finish, EXE Spencer

849
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: off putting finish.

850
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 3: The jerky is tough ship.

851
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 1: I'm surprised at a nut. I'm surprised the testicle dries

852
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: up like that.

853
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, you didn't slice it all.

854
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: That's very pasty, very pasty finish. You don't think he sliced.

855
00:45:55,160 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 7: Sliced and that that uh, it smells like whatever you.

856
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: Want to call that. On the out it's not very good.

857
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 4: Well, well, I don't.

858
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 7: Think it's like as bad as you guys.

859
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: Okay, just cut that in half.

860
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 4: And give me I wouldn't need to eat that ever.

861
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: Again. Here, here's all I like to think of bad foods.

862
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm not offended, but here's a measure of bad foods.

863
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: My wife recently bought these salted dried I don't know

864
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: why she bought them, salted dried prunes, and I was like,

865
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: my god, that's bad when I ate one. But then

866
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Speaker 1: I put left in my truck, and a few times

867
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Speaker 1: I drove around and I'd eat one, and I take

868
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: to myself, my god, that's bad. But you kept eating

869
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: them and eventually threw it away. If he sent me

870
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Speaker 1: a sack of those nuts, I would probably another time

871
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: eat one and be like, my god, that's bad.

872
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: Krin spitting it out and I eat a lot of

873
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: I don't like.

874
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: Your big talk. You didn't need to clean your plate.

875
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 3: Chew.

876
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: Oh, I quite like it.

877
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: I like it.

878
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 7: I just don't think it's like the worst thing I've

879
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 7: ever had eat it.

880
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: I don't I like it.

881
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 4: I know how good like a deer testicle can taste,

882
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 4: and it's like a like a very pleasant thing to eat.

883
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 4: And this was not that.

884
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: Like outer memorhis like skin membrane.

885
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 5: It's got guys.

886
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 9: Don't do that at home.

887
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 4: Boy, But that's a satisfying result, now I know that.

888
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: Like that.

889
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd rather smell that castors and castor oil than

890
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 7: eat that.

891
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: Remember on the We Are the World video, they use

892
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: those little things to protect their microphones.

893
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 4: No, I don't remember that.

894
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: Oh Phil, don't don't pull that up. But can you

895
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: pull the guy up all riled up about going turkey hunting?

896
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 9: If you I need a link, I don't even know

897
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 9: what to search for, send it to yep.

898
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, bro to do your thing now. Folks

899
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: listening at home here, this is you're gonna don't don't

900
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: think that this is just don't think that this is

901
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: just local news for us, right, because this is like

902
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: a management strategy you should be aware of. That's what

903
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: I was thinking.

904
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 2: A trend that's happening more and more.

905
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a trend that's.

906
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: Regarding non resident hunters.

907
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 6: Uh.

908
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 7: Last year Montana Senate Bill five fourteen was passed, and

909
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 7: uh we I like somehow it went like under the

910
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 7: radar for a while at least for me.

911
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: I never heard hiding her hair about.

912
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: It, but then I caught onto it because I hunt pheasants.

913
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: Can I interrupt one second? You want to know what's wrong

914
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: with that jerky? You know, when you're eating jerky, normally

915
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: you chew it a while and you wind up with

916
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: kind of like a cud. You're chewing, chewing, chewing that

917
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: nut jerky, and all of a sudden it's a paste.

918
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,959
Speaker 9: Yeah, go on, is that still in your mouth?

919
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: Okay?

920
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 7: So sen it Bill five fourteen. It grants resident Upland

921
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 7: bird hunters a ten day head start over non residents. Now,

922
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 7: the reason I again I caught this was a regarding

923
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 7: pheasant season, but other other Upland birds, sharp tail grouse,

924
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 7: hungarian partment and stuff like that. I think that season

925
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 7: for pheasants anyway, starts early October. Now, non resident hunters

926
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 7: have to wait ten days before they can hunt them

927
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 7: on public land or on like private land that has

928
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 7: public access.

929
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: Programs like block management in Montana.

930
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: But they're not jumping the season earlier. It's just your loose.

931
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: Non residents lose ten day exactly.

932
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 7: And if those non resident hunters have access to private

933
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 7: private good.

934
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: Day can go hunt.

935
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 7: What I didn't realize is that because Montana categorizes turkeys

936
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 7: as upland game birds, this rule also applies to.

937
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: Spring turkey season.

938
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 7: So spring turkey opens April fifteenth in Montana, non residents

939
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 7: can't start hunting them on public or private with public

940
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 7: access till April twenty fifth.

941
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then, weirdly, and this kind of pisses me off,

942
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: they exempted mountain grass. They did, do I get it.

943
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 7: The only thing I can think of is there's a

944
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 7: bunch of non resident archery hunters elk hunters out there

945
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 7: that are sticking grass.

946
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: For That's not why.

947
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: I don't know.

948
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: I had the same as there's just no there's a

949
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 4: very little pressure on those mountain birds.

950
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I think they should have all

951
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: are none?

952
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, Like yeah either way. So this is, like,

953
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 7: you know, it's a pretty big change, and I think

954
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 7: follows a trend of mostly Western states.

955
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: Doing what they can to limit the impact.

956
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 7: Of non resident hunting pressure and doing something where they can,

957
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 7: like present a regulation saying we're trying to alleviate this

958
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 7: pressure that you guys are talking about.

959
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: You've seen it. Colorado went away from over the counter

960
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 2: archery elk tags.

961
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 7: Montana cut a number of non resident mule deer tags.

962
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 7: Wyoming has lowered their cap on all non resident tags.

963
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 7: So it's just like this trend that has happened. I

964
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 7: think it's going to continue.

965
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: To more like you have a growing number of residents yep,

966
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: as more people leave cities, leave high tax areas, so

967
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: you're growing numbers of residents in Wyoming Montana. Idoh, and

968
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: then and then like the pieyes be cut up differently.

969
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I'd honestly like as far as pheasant season,

970
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 7: like it's nice to be out there the first few

971
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 7: days when you're shooting young of the year dumb birds, right,

972
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 7: but it's a three month season.

973
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 2: You're not losing that much as a non.

974
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 7: Resident turkey's in Montana. There's some years weatherwise where you

975
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 7: can't hunt the first or don't want to hunt the

976
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 7: first week of the season anyway, and.

977
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: Like all the birds are hend up anyway, So it's like,

978
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 3: so not a big deal. Hold what I I personally

979
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: think that first like fifteen days of the season, there's

980
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 3: a lot of birds, a lot of toms that are

981
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 3: hend up.

982
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 2: Like snow storms and ship like, Yeah, but yeah, okay,

983
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: either way, there you go.

984
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: I have thoughts. Uh, this is one of those deals

985
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: where you got I try to like, so it's my

986
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: state right where I live, so you like, so to myself,

987
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 1: I'm going like, sweet dude, stick it to them, right,

988
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: But so just acknowledging that truth. Yeah, I feel obligated

989
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: to point out a couple of details or point out

990
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: a couple minor counterpoints just to just to open it

991
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: all to be fair where you get into trouble. Even

992
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: though I like this, I like this because this is

993
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, helps helps me out where you get into trouble.

994
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: Is non resident licenses keeps the lights on at the

995
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: fishing game agents. Listen.

996
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 7: That's why I think you're seeing it with pheasants and

997
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 7: turkeys and not elk, Like they're not going to push

998
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 7: rifle elk season back ten days that you'll see that

999
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 7: they might.

1000
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: But that's what that's what keeps the lights on. And

1001
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 1: it could be that the that the agency is sitting

1002
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: there saying what people really want, and it would be

1003
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: enormous Like if you let's say you did a states

1004
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: you did a vote in a state referendum, any state, don'tkay,

1005
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: you did Montana, Cold, any state Wisconsin. You did a

1006
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: state vote and said, hey, should non residents have to

1007
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: wait ten days to start dear having with a rifle.

1008
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: It would pass everywhere. The agency is going to be

1009
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: like the hold on a minute, because all of our

1010
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: funding comes from non resident You guys are all hunting

1011
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 1: deer for thirty bucks. These guys are paying three hundred

1012
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: bucks a huntred well.

1013
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 7: And there's also the outfitters to consider you'd shrink their season,

1014
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 7: you know that, who.

1015
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Would be pissed. Yeah, yeah, you're right. So it's like

1016
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: it's like you can kind of scratch the itch yep

1017
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: a little bit, and maybe it's like you're scratching the

1018
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: itch a little bit where you're not gonna hurt the

1019
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: agency's funding model. The other thing is I look at

1020
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: it like from this perspective, because I jump, I hunt

1021
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: all over the place, you know, I jump from state

1022
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: to state and hunt. So here I'm going like, let's say,

1023
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: like I go to we hunt the kiddie season, we

1024
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 1: hunt the youth season Wisconsin. Every year. If someone said,

1025
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they says it's a two day

1026
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: youth season, and someone comes and says, hey, the first

1027
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: day of Wisconsin's youth season is resident only. I would say, oh, man, yeah,

1028
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: but what and I'd be all bummed out. But you'd

1029
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: still go I wouldn't have this. What could I do? Boy,

1030
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: it's not in my state. I would feel like it

1031
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: was someone else deciding something and I was not part

1032
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: of the decision making process. I'd be bummed. So I

1033
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 1: get it that people are bummed, But at the same time,

1034
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: went just to be like totally upfront and honest. When

1035
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: I saw this, I'm like, us cool, yeah.

1036
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: Because yeah, I mean I'm not crying because.

1037
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 1: There's a self serving element to everything.

1038
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 7: Like, look, I think they would do as much of

1039
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 7: this as they could if they thought they could get

1040
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 7: away with but there's a ceiling to it, Like you said,

1041
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 7: they can only go so far with it.

1042
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the real losers and anything like this, the real

1043
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: losers are. And if you take this state, the real losers,

1044
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: it's Washington in Minnesota because those dudes hunt this state hard.

1045
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 2: Hard yep.

1046
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, I've got that video of you watching.

1047
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is great. I like this guy check

1048
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: this out. This is just right now.

1049
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: He said this, I think yesterday.

1050
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: Listen to this guy We'll kill a turkey in the morning.

1051
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: Could someone say who someone that knows about sports say

1052
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: who he is?

1053
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 10: Isn't that the I think.

1054
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 3: Women's Yeah, Texas Longhorns coach.

1055
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Texas longharn.

1056
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 3: And they just advanced to the final four.

1057
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: He's got a fishing net around his neck. No, that's joke.

1058
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: That's a sports joke.

1059
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 3: I was making sure was making sure you knew what

1060
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: it was.

1061
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: He's got a basketball hoop around his neck. They just won.

1062
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: Turkey in the morning.

1063
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 8: I'll be in office by ten o'clock and I'll be

1064
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 8: in the film watching film, getting ready. And then the

1065
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 8: second thing is I'm gonna leave for Phoenix tomorrow. Just

1066
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 8: being honest, that's gonna happen. I've earned that right to

1067
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 8: be in the woods for a couple hours in the

1068
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 8: morning calling a turkey, and then we'll get ready for

1069
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 8: whoever's you know, whatever.

1070
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: Is going to happen after that.

1071
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 8: But I'll watch film tonight, absolutely all the way home.

1072
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 8: I'll watch it till I can't stay awake tonight, just

1073
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 8: like I've done here for four or five straight nights.

1074
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 8: But I'm gonna treat myself in the morning too. It

1075
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 8: might not even take longer than thirty minutes, if I

1076
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 8: can call that dude off the roost. After that, I'll

1077
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 8: be in the office and I'll be getting ready for UCLA.

1078
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: Amen, and has a good hunt. He got one?

1079
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 3: I found out. Yeah, I had to like google it.

1080
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: But on Twitter he posted a photo of you got one.

1081
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 11: The next morning, he was so into thinking about turkeys

1082
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 11: he couldn't remember who.

1083
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 10: They were playing the next day. At the beginning of

1084
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 10: that interview.

1085
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I was talking to name Mason the other day.

1086
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: He's joining us right now. He was out patterning his

1087
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: shotgun innocently, unaware of the turkey of the TSS explosion,

1088
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: price explosion.

1089
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 10: Vaguely.

1090
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Speaker 1: Yeah, munit. Like you know, you don't need to be

1091
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: a great student of the news to know that there's

1092
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: a lot of ordnance getting blown up right now around

1093
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: the world. People dropping bombs all over the place. The

1094
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: military uses a lot of tungsten in ordnance, in munitions.

1095
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: They are there's a tungsten shortage. This kind of ties

1096
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: into US duking it out with China about certain rare

1097
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: minerals metals. I had a guy came to me. I

1098
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: don't want to say my source because I could be wrong.

1099
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: A guy that's in the Ammo business texted me that

1100
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: he heard from the major Ammo manufacturer that TSS, as

1101
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,479
Speaker 1: as as an Ammo TSS turkey loads, TSS is done.

1102
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: He says, it's all going to the government, and it's

1103
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: time to figure out your next bullet, your next shot.

1104
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't know osmium supershot to TSS is over. I'm

1105
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: explaining this to Nate Mason and we're talking about that

1106
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: a TSS round is about six times more expensive than

1107
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: what he uses. And he said, is it six times better?

1108
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: And I said no, maybe it's like one point four

1109
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: times better. And it inspired him to go on and

1110
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: make his own website. Yep, the tsstest dot com.

1111
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 10: You can go there right now.

1112
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: He's parked on that domain for one year for a

1113
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: dollar cost me.

1114
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 10: It cost me one eight.

1115
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: Did you expense that dollar?

1116
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 10: No, you ate it.

1117
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 11: I'm planning on monetizing this and making much money off it,

1118
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 11: enough to buy TSS.

1119
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 10: Maybe here's the deal.

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00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 11: A couple disclaimers, well, this is the common man's guide

1121
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 11: to TSS. I think we're making a lot of hay

1122
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 11: out of TSS when most people don't even they're not.

1123
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: It's not even in my social sir. Let me tell

1124
00:59:59,240 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: you something.

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00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 10: So I'm saying you're not the common Everyone.

1126
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: In my social circle shoots TSS.

1127
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 11: Right, So this is my second distiller.

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01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 5: Let me let me I have never hunted a turkey

1129
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 5: in my life, and I'm not a data scientist. I'm

1130
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 5: very much common man.

1131
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 11: This is ripe for corrections, So get to sharpen your pencils, smitpickers.

1132
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 11: But I think it makes me uniquely qualified to take

1133
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 11: an objective view of TSS or the lack that so.

1134
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: Phil has TSS for the common man pulled up.

1135
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, you go to the TSS test dot com and

1136
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 11: this was a lot of a lot of t's.

1137
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1138
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,479
Speaker 10: I'm a big a literative guy.

1139
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 11: And to answered the question, can I justify buying TSS

1140
01:00:53,440 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 11: for fifteen seventeen twenty bucks a shell? Everyone's got different situations, variables, ethics, setups.

1141
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 11: And so I pulled a number of season turkey hunters

1142
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 11: from across the US and basically asked, what's the average

1143
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 11: range at which a turkey presents the shot to you?

1144
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 10: Because that's what really matters.

1145
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: And I thought about this answer long and hard, long,

1146
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: and yann I put it to Yanni long and hard see.

1147
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 11: But I also thought about that because I think you're

1148
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 11: hunting primo spots.

1149
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: Dude, it's nothing. So no, I'm just saying I want

1150
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: people to understand again, you're not a data guy. No,

1151
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: you're a data guy. You're not a turkey guy.

1152
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 10: I'm neither.

1153
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: This is a working draft of a website V one.

1154
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 7: And you also probably can't argue with experienced Turkey hunters

1155
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 7: over what they're seeing since you're not agreed.

1156
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: Turkey hunt a lot of places, right, I don't. I

1157
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: don't want to remind you, but I'm a two time

1158
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: super what's the Slam? When you get the World?

1159
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 5: No?

1160
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, grant two time? No way more than Grand World?

1161
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: World includes the Mexican.

1162
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: What's the one that doesn't include the oscillated Super two

1163
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: times Super Slam holders?

1164
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 10: They don't even know what those are.

1165
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: That's a little. So what I'm saying is when I

1166
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: give you turkey data, turkey dope, it's from all over buddy, yep.

1167
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 5: But all those data points are from Steve's shoes.

1168
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: Okay, go on.

1169
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 11: So in light of that, I factor in a bunch

1170
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 11: of variables and you can go on here and put

1171
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 11: in your situation, whether it's the caginess of your turkeys,

1172
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 11: the species you're hunting.

1173
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 3: Hold on before I get corrected. Grand Slam is Eastern

1174
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 3: Rio mariam Osceola Royal Slam.

1175
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: That shouldn'tven be a thing.

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01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 3: It's all for level. Yeah. The Royal Slam is the

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01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 3: Grand Slam plus plus the Goulds, and then the World

1178
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 3: Slam is the Royal Slam plus the oscillated.

1179
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: So two time royal holder. Yeah.

1180
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 3: The US Super Slam is all forty nine states. Sorry,

1181
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 3: all forty nine states that has turkeys.

1182
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: You know what bottlenext me on that is? I only

1183
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: got to uh, I only got two goulds, two more

1184
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: than a lot of people. Yeah, I mean that's what

1185
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: Bottleneck and me on not being a three time You.

1186
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 2: Want to start on that forty nine thing?

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01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: No, no, not interested. I want to get back to

1188
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: Nate's Thanks.

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01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 3: Sorry, All right, Oh that.

1190
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: Was great because you would have got corrected.

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01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, so dude, I think you just pull that

1192
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 11: sucker up and go through it.

1193
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So you go to TSS for the common Man.

1194
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: Nate Mason's thing. It's a working draft. He's trying to

1195
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: help you find out if it's right for you. You

1196
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 1: click find my show.

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01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,439
Speaker 3: Who's Who's going to be our hunter?

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01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: Max?

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01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: Max? Okay, okay Max? Does your hunting spot actually allow

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01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: for a forty five yard shot? Great question? No, oh

1201
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: you can't see that far.

1202
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 3: I'm in the trees. I'm in the timber.

1203
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: Okay. Boom oh you mean is that funny? Skip? It's

1204
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: already done. Skip the tss Yeah, get back up.

1205
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 7: You can sell that stash you got like pretty Okay.

1206
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: Let's let's start over. Max. Let's let's change your story.

1207
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: Let's say you're hunting Aria. It's like not to heavily timbered.

1208
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 3: For the record, I'm just putting myself in spots that

1209
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm not shooting past forty five yeah.

1210
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: Like like woods hunting, like or like.

1211
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 10: You don't shoot it.

1212
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like even like out here in Montana, I'm

1213
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 3: not setting up one hundred yards from a rise, like

1214
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 3: I'm setting up close to that rise that turkey is coming.

1215
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 4: Up boom in your face.

1216
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: Yes, but I know, just for the sake of the

1217
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: poor guy's website says hell yeah, he says hell yeah

1218
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 1: he is. Okay, does your Turkey trip cost one thousand more?

1219
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: I would hope not let's say it does not.

1220
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 9: Phil Oh, wow, it's getting intense now.

1221
01:04:55,440 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, now your situation species Max beer Iams, Yeah, okay,

1222
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: Miriams using a decoy? No, no, you don't use a decoy.

1223
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: Depends on the situation.

1224
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of depends, right, this trip is

1225
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: not okay? Now, how would you rate the cageness of

1226
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: the turkeys where you hunt? Max?

1227
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 3: I would give him, Oh, it's negative five to five.

1228
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: It's butter balls meaning domestics or old public land rope draggers.

1229
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 4: Don't do the thing where people say Miriams are stupid.

1230
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 10: That's factored into the species.

1231
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: Give it to to, So can you change that to

1232
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: old public land rope draggers.

1233
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 10: I'll take those notes.

1234
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: Next to Okay, calling skill, I would say, don't call,

1235
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: and then you're pressed and Pittman, don't sell yourself short

1236
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 1: one you better average? I would give no, because he's

1237
01:05:54,920 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: like really good, okay, average killable gobblers per day? If

1238
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: you hunted a day and had one come through in range,

1239
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, how many would you expect? Like, let me

1240
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: give you for instance, when we go to hunt youth turkey, Okay,

1241
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: if we're hunting hard, I would say not that we're

1242
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: gonna get it. Not that the kids are gonna shoot,

1243
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: but like I would expect in a day, we're gonna

1244
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: have a burden range.

1245
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 3: You would lay eyes on a bird.

1246
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: Like I'd be like, like if I was shooting, like

1247
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: I would you know or whatever are you looking at?

1248
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 4: Like?

1249
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: You should have had it? You should have had it.

1250
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 5: You messed up defined by as within seventy yards.

1251
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: He had a hen behind him, so you couldn't shoot.

1252
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: He like his head came through a clearing and you

1253
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: weren't ready. Your kid didn't see it in time. Whatever

1254
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: killable turkeys.

1255
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 7: See and just say because forgot one.

1256
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: If he hunts hard, he should have he should have

1257
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: a turkey in range.

1258
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I go. I would say that, Yes, I was

1259
01:06:58,920 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: thinking about more.

1260
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: But this how many days you got to hunt?

1261
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 3: Three days on the weekend warrior?

1262
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: Okay, he's gonna do a three day hunt. Now your

1263
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: generic old school shell, no TSS, your generic shell? What

1264
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: what's what's max range for you?

1265
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 3: I'm not shooting past forty okay?

1266
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: Forty okay? This one here's where I get confused.

1267
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 11: This is like a mid range, like a medium middle

1268
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 11: like that you can like you can't shell premium, premium

1269
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 11: copper plated.

1270
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so now you got Now you got some uh,

1271
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: you got some long bird, you got some long beard.

1272
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: What is that up there?

1273
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 10: Long beard? XR x R.

1274
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: Are you still pushing past forty?

1275
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 3: See? I feel like this all depends what gauge are

1276
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 3: you shooting.

1277
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 5: We'll do this for you for my setup.

1278
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 3: Twelve ags. You could push it out to forty.

1279
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: What was your other so you don't just push it

1280
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: out to fifty? Okay, he's out to fifty. Now what's

1281
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 1: the biggest poke you're gonna take with TSS? Biggest poke

1282
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: like when you got to get a rest that kind

1283
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: of shot.

1284
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'll answer for him. No, me personally,

1285
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 3: I'm not shooting past forty. I don't care what kind

1286
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 3: of shell I'm shooting.

1287
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: Oh so then okay, then take his fifty back to

1288
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: forty and put TSS at forty.

1289
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 9: I think we know what the answer is going to be.

1290
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, guy, it's like the worst guy.

1291
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 5: We already answered it off the writ I.

1292
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: Know, he's the worst guy in the world to like

1293
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: try to get.

1294
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 3: Trying to tell you that this is why, RIGHTA.

1295
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: I know, but you know what, you're not doing You're

1296
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: not like you're you're like you're not. No, I know

1297
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: you're trying to stay true to who you are.

1298
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 5: Just go forty fifty six, you're not just bullshit, Survey.

1299
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 1: But still, let's he had man, Okay, let me, let me,

1300
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: let me override him. Just just is like forty with

1301
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: my whispered in his ear. He's like forty with my

1302
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: old man's contemplating forces range long beard x R. I'll

1303
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: stretch it to forty fifty t I'm going to reach

1304
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: out to sixty.

1305
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 3: Survey says, Oh wow, scraps, this is awesome, Nate.

1306
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 9: Oh the long beard xs are is the best bang

1307
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 9: for your buck.

1308
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: That's equivalent. You don't need tss.

1309
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 10: Right there you go.

1310
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 7: I'll take it all, give it to me because I

1311
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 7: ain't stopping to shooting that stuff until run out of it.

1312
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: Okay, the last bit, well, I told you to check

1313
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: your numbers on.

1314
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 5: Shelves YEP, cost per additional point. So what you're looking

1315
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 5: at is you're getting a bell curve of where.

1316
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 10: You're going to get a SHOTEP.

1317
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 11: It might walk up to ten, it might hang up

1318
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 11: at sixty, but on average they're going to be about

1319
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 11: forty yards and.

1320
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 5: So you can get that done with the medium, middle of.

1321
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 10: The road copper.

1322
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 1: Okay, And what costs are you dealing with here? Because

1323
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 1: you took it like a little.

1324
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, So you scroll down, you look at the assumptions,

1325
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 11: and we can make these variable. But generics are going

1326
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 11: to cost you about a buck fifty, your middle of

1327
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 11: the road two fifty. Your TSS is going to cost

1328
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 11: you seventeen dollars a ship today today.

1329
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: I thought it'd be higher that by now. Probably kinda

1330
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: takes the fun out of shooting, don't it. Yeah, and

1331
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: you're seventeen bucks exactly. I just don't.

1332
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 2: Twenty bucks to me, man.

1333
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: I know, but sometimes just strip it a couple of

1334
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 1: shots at the paper I do Yanni Chimani, he says,

1335
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,440
Speaker 1: he when he's when he's uh patterning out, he's patterning

1336
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: out on old schoolers, and then he double checks outs

1337
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: or bird shot.

1338
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just use cheap yea target loads.

1339
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 11: Yeah, hit the u R elegant the TSS test dot com.

1340
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: And what is your pathway toward monetizing this test?

1341
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 10: I haven't figured that out yet.

1342
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: How many site visits have you had?

1343
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 10: I don't know how to read that data. I bought

1344
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 10: that sucker and shipped it.

1345
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm afraid that you'll have three site visits and they

1346
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,959
Speaker 1: all came from the same at the same address.

1347
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 3: I like the bottom. There's like bottom, it's almost like

1348
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: in quotes, but it's like immediate laboratories resource.

1349
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: No, he really brandized. He put more into branding than

1350
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: he put into thinking. You know, you know, you like get.

1351
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 2: And offer from big lead to buy this.

1352
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:20,919
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, So we covered Turkey season updates.

1353
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: We covered the TSS purchase guide again. Please listeners go

1354
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: to the tsstest dot com and find out if TSS

1355
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:37,759
Speaker 1: is right for you. Over to Spencer, I'm.

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01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 4: Gonna talk about Death Valley National Park. Death Valley it's

1357
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 4: the biggest national park in the lower forty eight. It's

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01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 4: located about two hours west of Las Vegas in east

1359
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 4: central California. Part of the park spills over into Nevada,

1360
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 4: but not much of it. When you think of like

1361
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 4: Death Valley, you're thinking of the California portion. It's the lowest, driest,

1362
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 4: and hottest place on the continent in all of North America.

1363
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 4: One part of the park sits at two hundred and

1364
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 4: eighty two feet below sea level. It averages less than

1365
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 4: two inches of precipitation every year, and actually in nineteen

1366
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 4: twenty nine, in nineteen fifty three, there was no precipitation

1367
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 4: at all recorded. It currently holds the world record for

1368
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 4: the hottest temperature ever recorded, when it reached one hundred

1369
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 4: and thirty four degrees fahrenheit on July tenth, nineteen thirteen.

1370
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 4: So now you know all about what Death Valley looks

1371
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 4: like and feels like.

1372
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you one thing you didn't mention that

1373
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: I always liked. Water doesn't leave there just a basin. Yeah,

1374
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 1: because it's a blow sea. It's a dead end. Yeah.

1375
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 4: I think it's like the remnants of an old lake

1376
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 4: that used to be seven thousand feet deep. Now what's

1377
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 4: left there is in his Death Valley. Now, despite this

1378
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 4: intense heat and lack of rain, stuff still rows there.

1379
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 4: They have mesquite trees, prickly pear, cactus, bitter root, whole

1380
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 4: bunch of succulents and cacti. Then there's a number of wildflowers.

1381
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 4: Most of these wild flowers only show up during a

1382
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 4: super bloom. The Death Valley super bloom only happens about

1383
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 4: every ten years. The last time it happened was in

1384
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen. Prior to that, there was one in two

1385
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 4: thousand and five and nineteen ninety eight. They require perfect conditions.

1386
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 4: Most notably, you need a wet fall in winter and

1387
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 4: its precipitation washes the salt off of the wild flower

1388
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 4: seeds and wakes them up after they lay dormant for

1389
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 4: a decade.

1390
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: No, kid, the seeds are salted, and.

1391
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 4: That precipitation will It could take your salt away, and

1392
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 4: it signals, you know, to the seeds, okay, time to go.

1393
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 3: You can almost see like the path that the water takes.

1394
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're looking at pictures right now. You can see

1395
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 4: them on you.

1396
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 2: How long from moisture to this?

1397
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 4: Well, these these pictures. The super bloom can vary. We'll

1398
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 4: get to it in a second. But like when I

1399
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 4: was there in twenty twenty three, I was there in

1400
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 4: mid March. Flowers did not start blooming until late March

1401
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 4: that year they had they had an above average bloom.

1402
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 4: It was not a super blue.

1403
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: Were you trying to hit the bloom?

1404
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 4: I knew it would be a good time to be.

1405
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 4: It wasn't like the point of the whole trip, yep.

1406
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 4: But it was like a factor in being there in

1407
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 4: mid March. Yeah, the perfect conditions. Mostly it's just a wet,

1408
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 4: falling winter. They're about twenty of these wild flowers that

1409
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 4: participate in the super bloom. They have a short growing

1410
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 4: window when they do show up. Now, it's similar to

1411
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 4: predator swamping. Explain what that is, Steve, preder swamping.

1412
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a reproductive strategy that humans interpret as Let's

1413
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: say have a large nesting colony of birds. If they

1414
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: all lay their eggs at the same time, the local

1415
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: predator population doesn't have a chance of getting them all.

1416
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,560
Speaker 1: They'll kind of work the edges of the colony, but

1417
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: they'll never get them all. Whereas if those birds spread

1418
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: their nesting out over a month, you would just have

1419
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: a month of sporadic predation. So predator swamping like when

1420
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: when l all tend to hit the ground, Elk fawns

1421
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: all hit the ground on the same day.

1422
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 4: Calves are going to get corrected.

1423
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, elk calves they all hit the ground the same day,

1424
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: some are going to live. If they all hit the

1425
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: ground over the course of six weeks, it could be

1426
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 1: they all get killed.

1427
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, predator swamp, you're overwhelming predator That would be

1428
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 4: like a mammal version of that. I think other you know,

1429
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 4: animals will participate as well. The super bloom does a

1430
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 4: similar thing and overwhelms the landscape because by blooming simultaneously,

1431
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 4: they'll guaranteed to attract a lot of pollinators butterflies, moths, bees,

1432
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 4: hummingbirds that otherwise aren't going to show up in Death

1433
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 4: Valley and visit this desert. Now here's why I'm talking

1434
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 4: about this today. Twenty twenty six is a super bloom year.

1435
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 4: And this was predicted going back to September because they

1436
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 4: got a big rainfall. Then it was followed by two

1437
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 4: and a half more inches of rain between November and January.

1438
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 4: That's that's exactly what you want for a super bloom.

1439
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 4: I found a blog post from a Death Valley guide

1440
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 4: on November fourteen, twenty twenty five, where he said, quote,

1441
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 4: I don't recall a setup quite this favorable in the

1442
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 4: last fifteen years, And that guide was right. The super

1443
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 4: bloom started in mid February. It's expected to last into May.

1444
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,440
Speaker 7: It likely your guy's gonna ask you, So it lasts

1445
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 7: a while, It lasts not like a week, and they're

1446
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 7: all gone.

1447
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 4: Once the flowers are up. The biggest thing is heat

1448
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 4: and wind. Those are the enemies of like a lasting

1449
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 4: super bloom. Now, this one probably peaked a couple weeks

1450
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 4: ago because they had some really intense wind and heat.

1451
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 4: I knocked down a lot of those wild flowers. But

1452
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 4: there's still plenty to see. And it also varies by elevation,

1453
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 4: so obviously the lowest elevation place has come into super

1454
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 4: bloom first, followed by the mid and higher elevations, and

1455
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 4: the higher elevation or where the super bloom will last

1456
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 4: into early summer. Now, if you live in the area,

1457
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 4: you can go check it out. I visited Death Valley

1458
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three. Like I said, it's one of

1459
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 4: my favorite parks. It's one of the only parks that

1460
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,480
Speaker 4: has year round dispersed camping. It's got the best stargazing

1461
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 4: I've ever experienced. It's super remote, so make sure you

1462
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 4: fill up on gas first and you have a good

1463
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 4: spare tire uh and take a trip to the racetrack playa.

1464
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 4: You'll see the sailing stones that move on their own,

1465
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 4: and then of course this year you'll get the rare super.

1466
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 10: Bloom that's happening.

1467
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: Excellent job, Oh thank you. They need to build no

1468
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: website for that, did you?

1469
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 10: Nope?

1470
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: No, excellent job.

1471
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 4: It's beautiful, hottest, driest, lowest place on Earth, and almost

1472
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 4: pretty flowers. Not on Earth, I'm sorry, good good in

1473
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 4: North America.

1474
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, inside of Santiago, somewhere around there. The driest place

1475
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: on earth, like the elk chili, sorry and chili, driest

1476
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: place on Earth.

1477
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 4: Can't even like that, must be less than an inch

1478
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,480
Speaker 4: of precipitation.

1479
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: Wow, no, ring disgusting, all right, Max, Over to you

1480
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: North Dakota poachers.

1481
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 3: All right, So you know how the eighteen eighties had

1482
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 3: Jesse James and Frank James.

1483
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: Oh.

1484
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, twenty twenty six has Tatum and Tyler Dfoe.

1485
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: Oh, going to.

1486
01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 3: My home state, North Dakota, dude, Watford City, North Coda,

1487
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 3: which is in the northwest part of the state. I

1488
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 3: would say the remains of over thirty deer, three bowl bull, elk,

1489
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 3: and even a moose with antlers were found by law

1490
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 3: enforcement at the residence of a Watford City man who

1491
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 3: is now under arrest and currently being held at the

1492
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 3: Southwest Multi County Correction Center in Dickinson, North Dkota.

1493
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: Where the hell's getting the moose?

1494
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 3: I do not know there's moose, the moose, and I

1495
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 3: took it home.

1496
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: With them, or at least the head.

1497
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 3: This Yeah, this article didn't really say how they got it.

1498
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 3: It was just like, if it's there, he's got it

1499
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 3: on his place.

1500
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1501
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 3: So, back in December of twenty twenty four, the residents

1502
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 3: of Taden and Tyler Dufo was being searched by law

1503
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 3: enforcement on a different warrant. Law enforcement happened to see

1504
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 3: some untagged heads there and they notified a local game warn.

1505
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 7: It seems like a lot of poachers get nailed via

1506
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 7: unrelated charges.

1507
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then a new search by the North Dkota

1508
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 3: Game and Fish that lasted about six hours, and then

1509
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 3: the warden removed the fallen from the residents. Thirty four

1510
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 3: sets of antlers and heads of white tail and meal deer,

1511
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 3: two elk heads with antlers so a bowl elk, one

1512
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 3: moose with antlers so bull moose, and multiple bags meat

1513
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: in a bobcat rug. North Kota Game Warns reach out

1514
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 3: to surrounding states to see like, hey, do you guys

1515
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 3: have any licenses take guests Montana? No, no licenses found.

1516
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 4: Oh, but didn't they have charges in all?

1517
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, meaning they he can't explain it away by like, oh,

1518
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: I've been hunting all over hell.

1519
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:46,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought.

1520
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 4: They were connected to some stuff in Montana, but maybe not.

1521
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: No.

1522
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,560
Speaker 3: In the article I read, the warden reached out to

1523
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 3: both Montana and South Coota to verify zero big am

1524
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 3: licenses were found.

1525
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 5: What's stopping them from just saying they're a bunch of

1526
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 5: dead head.

1527
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 3: It's great question.

1528
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 11: Because I I my buddy brought up this question because

1529
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 11: he was running around with a new hunter who doesn't

1530
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 11: know anything about anything, and he was like, I don't

1531
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 11: want to take this dead head because I don't have

1532
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 11: a salvage tag for it, and so I thought. I

1533
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 11: called Montana f WP and they're like, yeah, you don't

1534
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 11: need a.

1535
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 3: Salvage tag though. Yeah, but maybe it depends on what

1536
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 3: state it's in.

1537
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: You.

1538
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 4: It's like if for some reason.

1539
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,839
Speaker 7: A police officer or game warden is on your property

1540
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 7: and they see a dead head or two dead heads

1541
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 7: versus finding thirty.

1542
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, but I found five this year.

1543
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 3: I got all sorts of dead heads all over the place.

1544
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 3: So I think this article when it says elk heads,

1545
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 3: I think it's like a mounted tax. You know, it's

1546
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 3: it's not a European mounted dead head. So yeah, going

1547
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 3: back to this, the maximum penalty for a single class

1548
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 3: A mister meta under North Dcota law is three hundred

1549
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 3: and sixty days in prison, a three thousand dollars fine,

1550
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 3: or both the youngest. The youngest of the two, Tayden,

1551
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 3: was initially charged with fifteen separate Class A mister meter chargers.

1552
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: Wow.

1553
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's currently being held in Dickinson, North Dkota. I

1554
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 3: didn't really find much about his older brother, Tyler Dfoe.

1555
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 3: The article just said he was had nearly identical charges

1556
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 3: stemming from the same incident got but that was it.

1557
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's in jail or what's happening.

1558
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 7: So did they, like, did they tie any of those

1559
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 7: heads to like known poaching cases they were trying to solve.

1560
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 1: Or that I did.

1561
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 3: This article is very bleak. Yeah, so, and I think

1562
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 3: it's important to note both the foes are considered into

1563
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 3: considered innocent until proven guilty. So we'll find out. I'll

1564
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 3: circle back on this in a couple of weeks and

1565
01:21:58,920 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 3: see what happens.

1566
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: I know that's a lot of charges, man, Yeah, I.

1567
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 3: Know they had a couple of court dates here coming up.

1568
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 4: So Western North d Coota doesn't produce a lot of bull,

1569
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 4: elk and moose, so.

1570
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: That like, you know, wonderbout.

1571
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, there's like bad life like in the

1572
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 3: bad lands in western North Cota, there's lots of elk,

1573
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, having two of those, I think it's like

1574
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 3: a once in lifetime tag.

1575
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be I don't know what I'm talking

1576
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 1: about because I don't know, but I mean, I wouldn't

1577
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: be surprised if it turned out that those weren't local.

1578
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, like hopping.

1579
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 1: That's why. That's why they're talking about calling other states.

1580
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 3: And well, once you cross the state line, doesn't it

1581
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:36,919
Speaker 3: turn into a whole.

1582
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 1: Other lay violation. Yeah, then it's a federal crime. But yeah,

1583
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,440
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of what peaked my curiosity about it,

1584
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 1: is that, you know, not that to say that they don't,

1585
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 1: but those are animals not mostly associated there, and the

1586
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: fact that they're calling other states leads you to believe

1587
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: that that's what they're curious about.

1588
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 3: For sure. We'll find out.

1589
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Lastly, I just got so, I just recently got

1590
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: a moose harvest report. Okay, looking at moose harvest statistics. Yeah,

1591
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: but within this report that I got. I got this

1592
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: other really interesting thing about moose moose in general on

1593
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: our continent, so Canada, United States of America, the moose

1594
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: population in a way that they used to understand moose

1595
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: in a way that they that the evolving understanding of

1596
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: how moose came to be. Now, I'll just do a

1597
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 1: little trivia. What do you what do you got? What

1598
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: moose do we have here?

1599
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 7: Shyris and up in northern we have first get whatever

1600
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 7: they call them.

1601
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have in moose taxonomy they recognize you

1602
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: have the Yukon moose, which is the biggest, then the

1603
01:23:55,800 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 1: Canadian moose, then you have the Shyris moose, and then

1604
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: I think there's another one they call out east, like

1605
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 1: the Eastern and maybe is there a Labrador too.

1606
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 2: Newfoundland or labor something like that.

1607
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: So these they have these different moose, these different moose

1608
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 1: branches in moose taxonomy. They used to do this a lot.

1609
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 1: For instance, there used to be I don't know, they

1610
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 1: used to recognize a dozen.

1611
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 2: Cariboo, seven different kinds of elk or something like that.

1612
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 1: Seven kinds of elk, dozen cariboo, And they used to

1613
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: think that these things were genetically different. Think about this,

1614
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: the Mexican gray wolf and then the wolf, the regular

1615
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,440
Speaker 1: gray wolf. Okay, so we have these different genetic distinctions,

1616
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 1: and what you're doing is you when they look at

1617
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:50,719
Speaker 1: the genome of the species, you usually are when it's valid. Okay,

1618
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: Like take let's start with this example. What I'm trying

1619
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: to say, take black tail deer and mule deer. Black

1620
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: tail deer and mule deer are regarded as as legitimately different.

1621
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 1: They're like, that is a legitimate subspeci And what makes

1622
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: it that way is they can see evidence that there

1623
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: was a a serious distinct genetic barrier, meaning there was

1624
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 1: a time when black tail deer were not able to

1625
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: inter breed. They were physically separated from meal deer at

1626
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: a time. Now they're not. Now they bleed into each other.

1627
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: Like I've pointed this out before, there's places like in California,

1628
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: if a deer is standing on the west side of

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01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 1: I five, it's a black tail deer. If it's standing

1630
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: on the east side of I five, it's a meal deer.

1631
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 1: But when you look at them genetically, you can tell

1632
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 1: that these two things were different and they were separated.

1633
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,839
Speaker 1: What was separating them and all these cases in North America,

1634
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,440
Speaker 1: it was what was separating them was like old glaciation,

1635
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: so you had glacial barriers that cut animal populations in

1636
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: chunks and so areas where we have these like legitimate subspecies,

1637
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 1: it was because they were separated. When you look at cariboo,

1638
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what a dozen cariboo running around. They

1639
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: now think that there are two legitimate cariboo subspecies, barren

1640
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: ground and woodland. Barren ground were north of the glaciers.

1641
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: Woodland survived south of the glaciers. The glaciers go away,

1642
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: everything melts. They can intermingle, but they're still like those

1643
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: are legitimate subspecies. For a long time, people thought that

1644
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 1: the Shyris moose was a subspecies, and there was this

1645
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: idea that it had found refuge south of the Great

1646
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: Ice Sheets and evolved on its own, and these other

1647
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 1: moose evolved to the north. And I was even unaware

1648
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 1: that this thinking was changing. But they're doing more and

1649
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:02,520
Speaker 1: more genetic work, and it's like all these different moose Yukon, Canada.

1650
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: Shyris what you when you look at them and you

1651
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: see the differences, all you're seeing is is habitat, like

1652
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,520
Speaker 1: distinct habitat and nutrition.

1653
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 7: And what's the uh shit, what is it? The thing

1654
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 7: north to south or south.

1655
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 1: Of principle body size. So like in Bergsman's principle, We've

1656
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: talked this one hundred times. Like Bergsman's principle, if you

1657
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: look at a mammals range, the largest specimens are on

1658
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 1: the north end of the range, the smallest specimens around

1659
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: the south end of the range. Which fits. So I

1660
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: look at all this stuff like antler configuration of a

1661
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: shiris moose. The Shirif's moose doesn't have different antler configuration,

1662
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 1: it's just smaller. And they they wound up doing this thing.

1663
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this map and its servid fossils in

1664
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,719
Speaker 1: North America over fifteen thousand years. And it's crazy because

1665
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 1: like over fifteen thousand years you have I'm looking at

1666
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 1: this map where it's showing caribou fossils coming out of Nebraska.

1667
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 2: Oh.

1668
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 7: I was doing some research for the book where they

1669
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 7: found caribou Tennessee, Alabama, like way down.

1670
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,679
Speaker 1: Well, this is over fifteen thousand years. So I got

1671
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:18,759
Speaker 1: caribou fossils over in South Carolina, North Carolina, caribou fossils

1672
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: in Nebraska deer fossils southern Florida, just everywhere. Okay, elk

1673
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: fossils down in New Mexico. There is no older than

1674
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand year moose fossil. The southernmost the southernmost over

1675
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand year old moose fossil found to date sits

1676
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: at the Alaska Yukon border.

1677
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 2: So north of the glaciers.

1678
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, the other stuff was down right in this matter.

1679
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: There's this huge band across central Canada, but there's no

1680
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: fossil it, no fossils from over the time because nothing

1681
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: was there. So you had stuff that was north of it,

1682
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: and stuff was south of it. What you had north

1683
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:07,520
Speaker 1: of it, you had elk, you had moose, you had cariboo.

1684
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: South of it you had deer, you had caribou, you

1685
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 1: had elk. And so they're saying that like all moose,

1686
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 1: all moose at the end of the ice Age came

1687
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 1: out of Bringia spread south and there's never been a

1688
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 1: point when and you did not have genetic barriers. They've

1689
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: always just been like you would start in one place

1690
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 1: and you'd travel and there'd be moose and you'd slowly

1691
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: realize they look different.

1692
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, over time, they just adapted to that habitat.

1693
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 1: Nutrition habitat, and they also this this paper also talks

1694
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: a lot about density that like density is impacting size. Yeah,

1695
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 1: high density, small size.

1696
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 4: What's wild is they were moving uh down here at

1697
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 4: the same time humans were.

1698
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: That's the crazy timeline. Yeah, that's that's kind of like

1699
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 1: it would be that if you always imagine going back,

1700
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 1: like you want to go back to the Plyceiscene, to

1701
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: the Clovis age, you could be like the first humans

1702
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 1: that came down out of Bringia and hit the American

1703
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 1: Great Plains. They might have done that faster than they

1704
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 1: might have been in a moose free environment, and then

1705
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 1: one day it'd be like, well, there's moose showing.

1706
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 2: It's that thing.

1707
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the moose came at the same time as humans. Yep.

1708
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating. The math was cool. Yeah. Yeah.

1709
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: There were no deer the most this is what's crazy too.

1710
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 1: The most northern deer fossils over fifteen thousand years have

1711
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: come out of like the Prince of Wales Island area.

1712
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:50,679
Speaker 1: So blacktails yep, on the coast, on the coast probably

1713
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 1: ice free, yep. You had some blacktails on the coast

1714
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 1: and then It's like you didn't have northern deer and

1715
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: you didn't have southern moose.

1716
01:30:59,120 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 2: That's super cool.

1717
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just kind of a changing perspective of why

1718
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 1: why is a shiris Because when they look at a

1719
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 1: Shiris moose, they're like, his antlers are smaller, his coat

1720
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: is different colored. There's these other head measurements that are

1721
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 1: different and you're like, oh, they must have been different, right,

1722
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 1: But it's like it's just how the species was reflected,

1723
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:26,440
Speaker 1: how the landscape changed the species, how the species adapted

1724
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:27,480
Speaker 1: to the landscape.

1725
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 7: Right, It'd be interesting to see what other species will

1726
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 7: they'll look at and try and follow that same YEP trend,

1727
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 7: you know.

1728
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 13: Ye.

1729
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 4: For size reference, the Boon and Crockett minimum score for

1730
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 4: a Shiris moose is one. For a Canada moose is

1731
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 4: one eighty five. There're forty five inch difference, and then

1732
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 4: for a Yukon moose it's two ten. So this is

1733
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 4: like a Canada and Yukon are closer and side for

1734
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 4: like Boone Crockett than shyris in Canada.

1735
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 7: Boone and Crockett score is kind of weird doing vision

1736
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 7: with like spread wise, I would say like shyrius good

1737
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:05,719
Speaker 7: bulls like forty inches wide.

1738
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,719
Speaker 4: If you look at the all time record, the world

1739
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 4: record for a Canada is two hundred and forty two,

1740
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 4: for a Shyris is two oh five.

1741
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make people dig this up themselves. I don't

1742
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 1: want to tell them, but there is a unit in

1743
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 1: Montana where the average, the five year average is a

1744
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 1: forty nine inch with Can you look at most of

1745
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: the units the five year average is down in the

1746
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 1: upper thirties. There's a decent hot unit. Yeah. And you

1747
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 1: know what's funny. People know this because it's a low

1748
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 1: draw odd unit. People figured it out.

1749
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 4: Everything is zero point one percent change.

1750
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: No, no, not true, okay, not true. Thanks Thanks everybody.

1751
01:32:52,479 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 6: When you flew out the wind to the suns said,

1752
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 6: I thought I would never stop screaming. I thought I

1753
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,640
Speaker 6: would never stop.

1754
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 2: Screaming your name.

1755
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 13: But I ran out of breath, so I to again

1756
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 13: some more, and I started screaming loud.

1757
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 1: Streaming goes on for a.

1758
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 12: Day.

1759
01:33:53,120 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 6: So if you would not love this, fir, that'll probably

1760
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 6: be screaming that. I try to be cool here, but

1761
01:34:12,479 --> 01:35:07,600
Speaker 6: inside of screaming, U