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Speaker 2: There just was a lot of division, I think within

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Speaker 2: the ranks on those two staffs, and I think they

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Speaker 2: can really undermine what you're doing as a head coach.

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Speaker 3: When Barth's cheating on you with David andrews Now on

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Speaker 3: that his new podcast, you should ask him a lot.

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Speaker 2: That's a fair point.

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Speaker 4: I can just see Evan, he's watching the Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: and he's got his jersey mics and he's like half bights,

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Speaker 4: like they're running as six to one for the tills.

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Speaker 5: We all decided at some point that red meat was

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Speaker 5: the devil. So I don't know who you people are

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Speaker 5: eating a lot of red meat is.

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Speaker 1: Not eat anything that bleeds or blood at one time.

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Speaker 2: It's not the best for you. Can I go to

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Speaker 2: my dark negative side. Sure of course, that's why you

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Speaker 2: hear which people like you in front of it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, they got nothing.

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Speaker 1: They got three hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 2: This makes the package they got from Mookie Betts look

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Speaker 2: like they got Jason bear attack in Derek Wall for Heathcliff, Salcombe.

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Speaker 5: That is the trade hit one by the way, July,

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Speaker 2: I just don't know why trading for a month and

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Speaker 2: a half. It's a month and a half from now.

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Speaker 2: You don't know how calendars work. It's less than a

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Speaker 6: But but it's the end of June, now the seventh,

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Speaker 2: So it's less than a month away.

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Speaker 4: I said a month and a half because he said

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna apologize and advance everyone, no Fred Kurse. Today.

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Speaker 2: The wheels are going to be off early and often.

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Speaker 2: It's just yours, truly an easy e Evan Lazarre. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a uh bare bones show today on Patriots Unfielded.

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Speaker 2: But we'll get through, We'll we'll get by. We got

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Speaker 2: some stuff to talk about. Of course, you know, major

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Speaker 2: don't really think we need to have any pleasantries, Evan,

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Speaker 2: we get Let's get right into the guys, all right,

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Speaker 5: The day in Boston Sports today. Well, it's a I'm

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Speaker 5: not going to make a huge deal about Yes here Durant,

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Speaker 5: recently champions championship pedigree, championship pedigree is right, there's no

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Speaker 2: Anything you guys want to talk about just looking ahead, Evan,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to get you a take, and I printed

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Speaker 2: out the lengthy lists the ESPN and PFF I believe

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, they can. They can work out here for sure,

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Speaker 5: About I would say best right now, it's probably close

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Speaker 5: be a Drake May seasoning to this that is going

433
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Speaker 5: to exist, and I think that's encouraging some of the

434
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 5: things that they were doing and the red zone work,

435
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 5: especially towards the end of the spring. We're really encouraging,

436
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 5: you know, some of the shotgun stuff and maybe some

437
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 5: quarterback run and things like that. I mean, that's that's

438
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 5: what you got to do. Like that, that's the type

439
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 5: of player you have now back there. So overall, I

440
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 5: don't know how you can't be optimistic about the climb,

441
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 5: Like it started out a little bit rocky, and then

442
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 5: at every practice it just kind of felt like Drake

443
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 5: May looked a little bit more comfortable with every checkpoint

444
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 5: that we had along the spring, and so hopefully you

445
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 5: get into it in the summertime and that just continues.

446
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 5: I mean, it's not gonna be every day, it is

447
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 5: not going to be great, but hopefully it's a it's

448
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 5: a steady climb.

449
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 2: And I was listening to one of our colleagues, Andrew

450
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 2: Callahan this morning locally here in Boston on the Sports Hub,

451
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 2: and you know, one of the things that he said

452
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 2: that I really agree with. In regards to Josh Is,

453
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 2: I think I have more confidence in him being able

454
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 2: to alleviate our biggest fear of the offensive line, because

455
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: he's not going to allow that to sort of derail

456
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: the whole offense. He's going to work around and scheme

457
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: around it quick, you know, quick throws, timing throws. Now,

458
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: it's going to be incumbent upon Drake May and the

459
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: receivers to make sure that they're able to operate like that,

460
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 2: because I do not have any illusions that it's going

461
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: to look like it did with Tom Brady, because I

462
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 2: think Tom Brady was exceptional at covering up for you know,

463
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: suspect offensive line play at times. I don't know if

464
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: Drake May will be able to do that, but I

465
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: do know that Josh McDaniels will read and recognize where

466
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: those issues are and work around them better, I think

467
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 2: than they did last year with Alex van Pelt, who

468
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: wanted to sort of be a little bit more deliberate

469
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: and take some shots, you know, some slower developing play action.

470
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: That's how they wanted to hit big plays last year.

471
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: They just didn't have the protection to do it.

472
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, they have. You know, there's a lot of different

473
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 5: things that you can do to help an offensive line,

474
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 5: but I think the most important thing you can really

475
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 5: cover up one week spot on the offensive line, like

476
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 5: if you have if you know that, let's just say

477
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 5: left guard because that's sort of the position right now

478
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 5: we're all talking about. If you know that left guard

479
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 5: is gonna be a little bit of a target for

480
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 5: defenses and a little bit of a weak spot for you. Like,

481
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 5: there's obviously a million things that you can do to

482
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 5: help out the left guard, you know, like you know,

483
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 5: putting him in the slide side of the center is

484
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 5: helping him on every single player that whatever the case

485
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 5: may be. So like you can do those types of things,

486
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 5: And I just think McDaniels has shown a really good

487
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 5: grasp of that of understanding protections and understanding where threats

488
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 5: are and where their weak spots are and how to

489
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 5: cover those things up. It's one of his better traits

490
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 5: that goes unnoticed because it's kind of in the weeds,

491
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 5: but it's something that I think he's really good at.

492
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 5: And Doug Maron being here as well is not lost

493
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 5: on me. That's a guy that's been coaching offensive line

494
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 5: for twenty twenty five years as an experienced coach. It's

495
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 5: it's not a first time offensive line coach like Scott

496
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 5: Peters was last year running the room for the very

497
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 5: first time. So last year you had a first time

498
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 5: full time play caller in Augs Van Pelt and a

499
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 5: first time head offensive line coach in Scott Peters. This

500
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 5: is the opposite of that. This is as much experience

501
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 5: as you could have in those two roles as probably

502
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 5: any team in the league. So that's encouraging if they

503
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 5: do have to work around it. And I go back

504
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 5: to that twenty one season with McDaniels, it wasn't like

505
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 5: they had prime Randy mausin Goronk at the skill positions,

506
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 5: and they were still above average offense for most of

507
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 5: the season.

508
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 2: They worked around the limitations that they had. Yeah, and

509
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: there were limitations. Remember the rookie quarterback, obviously, and a

510
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback who didn't have the athleticism that Drake May

511
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: has and certainly didn't have the arm strength that Drake

512
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: May has. So I'm excited. That's why, that's one of

513
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: the things that I think I'm most optimistic about. So

514
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: we gave you a couple of things on both sides

515
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: of the ledger. So I'm curious to what you guys think.

516
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: Give us a call again. H eight five five pats

517
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: five hundred. Uh, the emails are coming in a little bit,

518
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: Jackie and ann arbor Is. He's sad. He's sad that

519
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: there's no Fred. But don't worry about Evan. He's still

520
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: with us. I'm still gonna watch the show. Carry on.

521
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: So we do appreciate.

522
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 5: Carry on or carry on.

523
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good point. Yeah, yeah, he might. He

524
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: might need to be a little bit more.

525
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 5: Uh is it a carry on? A little bit more

526
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 5: more carrying on with the show?

527
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I love the emails coming in. I'm gonna

528
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: have to have a I'm gonna pull a Fred here

529
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna have to have a chance to read

530
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: him before I know, I get into all of them.

531
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's nice. It's nice. The interaction on a

532
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: steamy Tuesday afternoon.

533
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 5: Do you love it though? You love that it's one

534
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 5: hundred degrees out? You're not?

535
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred might be a little bit strong, But

536
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: I did you know last week we had the holiday

537
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: on Thursday and it was pretty hot that day. It

538
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: was in the nineties and we golfed. You know, I

539
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: played a quick eighteen. It was beautiful. I was not

540
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: complaining about it. Was the first time I golfed all

541
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: year with my nose wasn't running there you go, So

542
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: I took that as a plus. Now, what else wasn't

543
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 2: running was that the Birdie train was not running either.

544
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: I missed it, So that was that was tough.

545
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 5: Our building has a pool, and they finally opened the

546
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 5: pool for the season because your lovely city of Everett,

547
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 5: Paul has been dragging their feet on the permit for

548
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 5: the pool, approving the usage of the pool because you

549
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 5: know red Tape and your hometown.

550
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: There is a lot of hockey in that pool.

551
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 5: It's just crazy. So they they finally opened the pool.

552
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 5: And when you open a pool at a at a

553
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 5: big apartment complex like this, it's just I mean, the

554
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 5: amount of people at the pool last last weekend was

555
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 5: just insane. I mean, you couldn't you couldn't get a

556
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 5: spot by the pool at all. But last Thursday we

557
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 5: were off because of Juneteenth, which a lot of people

558
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 5: asking why we didn't have a show last week, and

559
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 5: that that was why it was a Federal Hall day.

560
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 5: But it was great. We sat by by the pool

561
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 5: for a little bit. It's very nice. I suck it,

562
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 5: sucked it up for Jess for like a couple hours

563
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 5: in the heat, and it was cool.

564
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: You got time for a game.

565
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's do it.

566
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: We gotta, we gotta. Would you rather from Kyle in Pembroke,

567
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: Let's see, would you rather go tubing on a lake

568
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: or to a water park?

569
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 5: I'm a lake guy. I grew up on lakes, so

570
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 5: tubing on a lake.

571
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: I think I would go with the lake too. Yeah,

572
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: I can do whatever I want, Whereas the water park

573
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: you're stuck in lines. I like water parks. I like

574
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: water parks better than I like both of those. Yeah,

575
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: but I think I would go with the lake.

576
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 5: Winnipesaki Action.

577
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: Would you rather have burgers and hot dogs or sausages

578
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: in a pull pork sandwich? Had a cookout?

579
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 5: Burgers and hot dogs?

580
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: Me too.

581
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 5: I feel like sausage in a pull pork is it's

582
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 5: a lot for a cookout. Like if you're at a

583
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 5: barbecue spot, then obviously that's different. But that if you're

584
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 5: at a cookout, you're socializing, you're drinking, you know, and

585
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: you don't need all that.

586
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: So now, luckily, if you happen to be one of

587
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: the chosen fewd that's invited to TJ's graduation party over

588
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: the weekend, you get both because we will have both.

589
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: Watch Would you rather watch a movie on a projector

590
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: outside or have a fire.

591
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 5: Oh hmm, that's a tough one. I'm gonna go. I'm

592
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 5: gonna go with movie. I Like, we were both movie guys,

593
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 5: so I'm gonna go movie.

594
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: I would go, yeah, Jaws, but any other I'm not

595
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: like a huge like, Oh, let's let's get a fire,

596
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: go and sit outside the end, like, especially if it's

597
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: like a real fire, like I have a like one

598
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: of those fire pits that's gas. So you don't end

599
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: up stinking at the end of the night.

600
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 5: Well, you get eaten by the mesquite but.

601
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: You get a good fire. You know that someone starts

602
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: and then it's great to sit around, and then the

603
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: next day you're weak, you know. So that's used to do.

604
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 5: That a lot in in high school, and we'd all

605
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 5: come out. My clothes would come home wreaking of the

606
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 5: of the fire, not of anything else, just to the fire. Yeah, sure,

607
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 5: And it was it was always a good cover up though,

608
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 5: for for what else?

609
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: Kyle's got a couple more here travel Cape questions.

610
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Speaker 7: These are some softball would you rather is?

611
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I like it? You know what? You

612
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: don't want them? No? No, no, go for it. I

613
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: mean they just travel to Cape Cod or to Maine. Yeah,

614
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: he's giving your things that he wants to do, not

615
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: you know, like would you rather?

616
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Speaker 5: You know, I would say, I mean, you know, I'm

617
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 5: a vineyard guy, so I would probably guess I'd lean.

618
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 5: I lean towards the cave because it's it's the closest thing.

619
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go Cape. I would go Cape as well.

620
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: I'm not a huge Cape guy though.

621
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 8: Uh.

622
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: And the last one is the age old question beach

623
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: or pool, So I'd probably say pool because I'm not.

624
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: Pool is definitely the answer.

625
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 5: Sand is just not my best friend. But I would

626
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 5: love to be at a pool by a beach, so

627
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 5: that if I wanted to go down to the beach

628
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 5: for a little bit, you can. But I can't. I

629
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 5: can't sit on a beach for a long time, like

630
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 5: I just it does not for me too much.

631
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: Sand. Yeah, I mean I I don't mind the beach

632
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: that much, but it's it's it's a lot. Yeah, it's

633
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: like you drag everything to the beach. You know, you

634
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: you get all the sand, you're dirty. You gotta get

635
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: a shower when you don't like the pool. Just like

636
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: you walk out, You're right there. You got everything you need,

637
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: you got your music, you got your food, you got

638
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: everything you need is right at the pool. And as

639
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: you know, fiftieth anniversary, you have no fear of get

640
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: eaten by a shark in my pool.

641
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: Well we can surprise Deuce. I was gonna surprise both

642
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 5: of you. But apparently in Oak Bluff's right now, there

643
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 5: is a replica Orca at the dock that's sitting there

644
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 5: in for the fiftieth anniversary.

645
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: So like, well, you know, Richard Dreyfs was at the

646
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: harbor of you yesterday right over the weekend. Maybe yeah, yeah,

647
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go big time.

648
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 5: I take a picture on the orca for you guys.

649
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 5: And you know, I know I'm the biggest Jaws fan

650
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 5: in here, so that makes sense that it would be me.

651
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: So I'm going to try to sort of weave in

652
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: and out of the nonsense. And Kyle, thanks for the

653
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: despite Alex's protest, that was good. That was good nonsense,

654
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: good summer fodder, you know, not like would you rather

655
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: you know, you know, eat a goat or you know whatever,

656
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: like good things. We want ice cream or fruit, you know,

657
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: like watermelon. You know that's good stuff. Good choices, No,

658
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: no wrong answers.

659
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 5: There's a wrong answer to that.

660
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: Well, we'll have some. We'll have some football as well.

661
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: And let's see it's Curtison, Curtis and Saint Louis. If

662
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: you were making the I'll direct this right at you,

663
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: even though he doesn't. Okay, if you were making the calls, Evan, Yes,

664
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: are there any free agents out there that or possible

665
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: trade that would make you that you would want to

666
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: make heading into training camp?

667
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 5: That's a good question.

668
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: He throws some names out there that I don't think

669
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: you'd be interested in at this point. Jude on Gilmour Clowney.

670
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 5: No, I'm not too interested in the free age market.

671
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 5: Like I don't think anybody that really catches my eye

672
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 5: that's left that's going to move the needle. Terry Mccaorran

673
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 5: would be awesome. I think that one is maybe even

674
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 5: more far fetched. But like Terry Mccaorran, I would obviously

675
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: offer what you got to offer to get a player

676
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 5: like that. I do like the idea of somebody like

677
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson, you know, but I think that it had

678
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 5: it have to you'd have to line up like a

679
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 5: two year deal with him and like a.

680
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: Lot of moving parts. But yeah, I would definitely be

681
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: interested in something like.

682
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 5: That, right because I do think that that's the one

683
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 5: spot on the edge that they could really use a

684
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 5: dude there, Like, they could really use a guy that

685
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 5: can draw some attention and they can win a one

686
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 5: on one and consistently, and he's a great player. So

687
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 5: I would probably say other than McLaurin, I probably say

688
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson. But I don't know how that lines up,

689
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 5: Like I don't know how that lines up for both parties.

690
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 5: That he wants to be here, he's signing a contract here,

691
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 5: I don't know how that lies.

692
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: He throws Zion Johnson out there as a potential trade guy.

693
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: I think he's going into the last year of his deal. Again,

694
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: a lot of moving parts with some of those things.

695
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: His second question, if you could add any ex Patriot

696
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 2: and insert them on this current roster, who would you add.

697
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: The only rule is it can't be Brady.

698
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 5: Can't be Brady. We've answered this question before, and I

699
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 5: feel like my answer is the same. I would still

700
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 5: say Randy Moss, like I still feel.

701
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: Like Moss is. It's a good answer to that question.

702
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 5: I think it's between Gronk or Moss. And obviously Gronk

703
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 5: is Gronk and he's unreal, but you at least have

704
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 5: an NFL caliber tight end and Hunter Henry. Like Hunter

705
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 5: Henry is a good player. He's not Gronk, but he's

706
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 5: a good player. You don't have anything on this team

707
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 5: close to Randy Moss, So I would say Randy Moss

708
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 5: for that reason. It just balances everything out a little

709
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 5: bit nicely. Whereas with Gronk and Henry, now you're probably

710
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 5: your two most consistent pass catchers are both tight ends.

711
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 8: You know.

712
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: So Justin in New Hampshire is soft like you, Evan,

713
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: He says, maybe it's the New England or to me,

714
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: but I'd much rather be sitting in forty three degree

715
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: weather right now than this ninety degree heat. Yeah, I

716
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: disagree with you.

717
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 5: Soft now. I'm soft like sixty five and sunny is

718
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 5: the sweet spot. That's the best weather right there, not

719
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 5: too hot, not too cold. That's ideal weather, but this

720
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 5: I don't mind summer when I just don't mind. I

721
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 5: mind extreme heat like today today is too much.

722
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: So I guess this is something you brought up. This

723
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: is from Chad in La maybe something you and Alex

724
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: talked about on a recent edition of Catch twenty two. Yes,

725
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: because he directs it mostly to you, but hopefully it

726
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: invokes a longer discussion. On Catch twenty two, Evan't talked

727
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: about the right side of the offensive line being about

728
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: nine hundred pounds of human meat, which that can only

729
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: be a phrase that you would say.

730
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean it's just a bunch of hog.

731
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: Or as the left side being both undetermined in lighter. Yeah,

732
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: My question is is the lights left side lighter for

733
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: mobility purposes and preparation for May's running ability? Will he

734
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: most likely run to the left? Any further reasoning and

735
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: discussion would be appreciated. I just off the top of

736
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 2: my head, I would say no, I don't necessarily think

737
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: that's anything that is intentional.

738
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree. I think that it's just the

739
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 5: way it kind of worked out. The players that are

740
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 5: available and the players that you get you can't It

741
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 5: would have been great if we could have stretched out

742
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 5: Will Campbell to have thirty four inch arms in an

743
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 5: eighty inch wing span, but he doesn't have that. So

744
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 5: this is the players that you're dealt with. But it

745
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 5: was just something that we were talking about on catch

746
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 5: because it's a combination of you know, Cam who's ever

747
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 5: next to Campbell, but also who's ever next to Bradbury

748
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 5: at left guard too, Bradbury being a smaller center as well,

749
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 5: and if you just look at measurables and things like that,

750
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 5: Cole Strange has always been a little bit more on

751
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 5: the lighter side for an interior player. He's a little

752
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 5: bit higher cut too, is not exactly a a cinder blocker,

753
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 5: like a low center gravity kind of guy. So if

754
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 5: you're gonna put him next to Campbell, I just watching

755
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 5: it out at training camera out at a spring practices,

756
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 5: like you could see the difference in like girth, like

757
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 5: with of the line on the right side versus the

758
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 5: left side. It was pretty obvious actually to the just

759
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 5: to the you know, the naked eye just seeing it,

760
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 5: and so I just wonder if that comes into play.

761
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's the end all be all, but

762
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 5: you know, Caden Walls is a little bit bigger of

763
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: a guy. You know, he's a little wider, he's a

764
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 5: little stockier. Jared Wilson's a little bit bigger, stockier as well.

765
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 5: You know, City So is certainly bigger. He's like six

766
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 5: four three twenty bigger guy. You know, Does that come

767
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 5: into play at all? That next to a guy that

768
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 5: has arm length, wingspan, question marks and a smaller center

769
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 5: in Bradbury? Do you want like a wide bodied left

770
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 5: guard that can take up some point?

771
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: Make an argument both ways and I think you just did. Yeah,

772
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 2: what you know, the pros and cons. Again, I don't

773
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: necessarily think that. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but I

774
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: don't think teams necessarily go about putting their lines together

775
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: with a size. I mean they might have a style

776
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: that they want. Yeah, And you know, like Bill Parcells.

777
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: When Bill Parcells first came to New England, they had

778
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: a former first round pick left tackle in Pat Harlow.

779
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: I think he played right tackle at the time, because

780
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: I think Armstrong was still here. He wasn't He was

781
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: a pretty good player. Pat Harlow was a pretty good

782
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: player for the Patriots. Wasn't Parcells kind of tackle a

783
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: little bit angular and not as broad. I think Bill

784
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: liked big road graders.

785
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 8: You know.

786
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, and it wasn't his kind of guy that

787
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: I could understand. You know, if the coach has a

788
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: specific style, it wouldn't make any sense to me, like

789
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: he wants a specific style a big guy on one

790
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: side and a more athletic, smaller build on the other side.

791
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 2: That to me, I don't think would be by design.

792
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: It just kind of working out that way.

793
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I don't know if it was by design,

794
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 5: but you know when they were humming in the heyday

795
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 5: that this the line was Jack Mason and Marcus Cannon

796
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 5: on one side and big guys Tuney and Soldier on

797
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 5: the other side who are more athletic, more you know,

798
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 5: of the slimmer type. So it's not something that's that

799
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 5: different from that sort of thing, I suppose, But Moses

800
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 5: on and on whenu are monsters like those, you know,

801
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 5: especially in terms of height Moses, but like both of

802
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 5: them are just a lot of weight and a lot

803
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 5: of sand on that right side, whereas the left side

804
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 5: just was smaller, noticeably smaller. So we'll see if that

805
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 5: as a factor, But it might help, especially on the inside,

806
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 5: if you had somebody next to Bradberry, like if you

807
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 5: had on Wenu and let's just say he earns it

808
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 5: in like city. So or your two starting guards on

809
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 5: either side of of Bradbury, like you have an anchor there,

810
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 5: Like you have some two guys that have some play

811
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 5: strength and some girth to them which might help.

812
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: So I asked a little while ago for people to

813
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: start sending in. But they are excited about and what

814
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: they're concerned about, and this isn't necessarily related to that.

815
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: We have some emails coming in which I will read

816
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: in a little bit, but Pete and Seattle a little

817
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: bit of a different take on something that might be concerning.

818
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: He says, it's been a bit since we've talked about

819
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 2: win loss predictions. In May. I think it was natural

820
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: that most of the Boston media was hyper focused on

821
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: just the Patriots and their high off season grades when

822
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: those kinds of things were evaluated. Two thoughts come to mind.

823
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: Many other teams that the Patriots will play also received

824
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: very high off season grades, and he gives an example

825
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 2: of the Raiders. He also says that other teams faced

826
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: a slew of injuries last year that they may not

827
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: face this year, and one of the examples for that

828
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: is the Dolphins. So with that in mind, which of

829
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five MATCHUPSV do you think most fans

830
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: are underestimating due to the opponent's' results from last year

831
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: and or how good their off season was. Love the

832
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: work you guys do. Thanks for your dedication and the

833
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: passion you bring day to day.

834
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 5: Thank you. That's a good question. I would agree with

835
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 5: him though, and in the broader picture as I think

836
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 5: about that that question, because this is what I've been saying,

837
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 5: Like the schedule looks what the schedule looks on paper today,

838
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 5: but who knows what the schedule is going to look

839
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 5: like in four or five months when the season starts.

840
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 5: Like some of these teams might end up being good

841
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 5: that we aren't expecting to be good. I don't know, Like,

842
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 5: is it possible that Aaron Rodgers finds a found of

843
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 5: youth in Pittsburgh and all of a sudden that September

844
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 5: game against Pittsburgh is a tough game, that's a really

845
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 5: good defense, it's a great pick. You know, Aaron Rodgers

846
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 5: is a player that night, I mean they was looked

847
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 5: like an MVP. Yeah, And if he has that kind

848
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 5: of game, then you're gonna look.

849
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: If you had told me after that game, that Thursday

850
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: night game, that he was going to have the season

851
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 2: that he had, I wouldn't have bought it. No, And

852
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: he because he looked good that night when he was

853
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: on his spot.

854
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 5: He can still throw it. He just doesn't move the

855
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 5: way that he used to move anymore. And he's I

856
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 5: would also say, a little bit a frame to get

857
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 5: hit at times in the pocket too, more than just

858
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 5: and that those two things stood out to me. But

859
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 5: watching him and when he sees man to man coverage

860
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 5: and he has a bucket to throw the you know,

861
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 5: to drop a ball into a bucket and a window,

862
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 5: like he can still do that at a very high level.

863
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 5: He just wasn't as mobile, and he wasn't as you know,

864
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 5: playmakery and gun slingery like we've seen in his MVP years,

865
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 5: But especially that early on in the season, before the

866
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 5: wear and tear starts to catch up to him. Like

867
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 5: there's a very good chance you might see a pretty

868
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 5: good version of Aaron Rodgers against you know, Pittsburgh that

869
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 5: early in the year.

870
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: All right, so you know what's going to happen. Now,

871
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: it's been a while since I've had to man the phone.

872
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 2: Our buddy Nate and Connecticut, who's been a very regular

873
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: caller as of late, is going to be first up

874
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: on the Patriots unfilter hotline. What's up Nate?

875
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, can you guys hear me?

876
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 10: Well today?

877
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

878
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 5: Got it all right?

879
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 9: So my first thoughts I have store of a prediction

880
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 9: slash hot stake. So I believe this offseason we are

881
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 9: going to be trading Kendrick Bourne the forty nine ers

882
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 9: for like a late round draft pick. I'm thinking fourth

883
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 9: or fifth, you know, coming off that ACL last year,

884
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 9: he hasn't really been himself and I'm really thinking that

885
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 9: we can get we can get something off of him.

886
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 9: And and I know, you guys in like the past shows,

887
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 9: I think I touched twenty two have listed born In

888
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 9: Booty as a trade candidate, and I would rather trade

889
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 9: Bourne over Booty because I know Booty has more potential

890
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 9: and Bourne is sort of like his career is maybe

891
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 9: fading off. I know he had plus on the McDaniel's

892
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 9: side of things, but I don't. I don't think he's

893
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 9: going to be a Patriot this year.

894
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 5: Thank you guys, Thanks Sam.

895
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with I agree I think he could go.

896
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 2: I don't think he's getting a fourth or a fifth

897
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: round pick, no, no, but I agree with the premise

898
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: of me too. He's probably the.

899
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 5: Preferred one to go, and it's no offense to Kendrick Bourne,

900
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 5: but he's on the other side of thirty at this point,

901
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 5: he's had the major injury. He's the more expensive player

902
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 5: just contractually do about seven and a half eight million

903
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 5: dollars of a cap hit this year compared to Booty

904
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 5: on a rookie contract sixth round pick. So in all ways,

905
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 5: it kind of feels like Booty's arrow is pointing this

906
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 5: way potentially, and Bourne's arrows point in the other direction.

907
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 5: But everybody else knows that too, So why why are

908
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 5: they get I don't know if you're getting a fourth

909
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 5: or fifth. I think maybe you get a sixth maybe.

910
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say even that's optimistic. I would say

911
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: probably a seventh, but maybe a pick swap six seventh

912
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: kind of deal. Next TEAMO. It doesn't say he doesn't

913
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: leave his name, but wants to know about some udfas

914
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: anyone standing out to you. Ev He wants to know

915
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 2: specifically if we've seen anything from Josh Minkins he says

916
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: he's fourth on the depth chart. There is really no

917
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 2: depth chart yet, so I wouldn't necessarily.

918
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Mankins, I believe they're going to try him

919
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 5: out at corner. They're like, there's some rumors of him

920
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 5: maybe playing some more safety than corner in the NFL.

921
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 5: But I think that they're gonna keep him at corner

922
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 5: for the time being, just based off the spring. Maybe

923
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 5: maybe some slot, maybe some nickel corner in his future

924
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 5: as well. I didn't see him get a ton of

925
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 5: run with meaningful people around him, Like you know, there's

926
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 5: a lot more opportunity stuff during the spring, So I

927
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 5: don't know if he's necessarily in the cards yet. Obviously

928
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 5: we've talked a ton about e Fton Chisholm and lend Larrison,

929
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 5: like those are the two guys that are making the

930
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 5: most noise. But I would also say, like I still

931
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 5: feel like CJ. Dupree will have his say before we're

932
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 5: done here. He's a in line blocking tight end. That's

933
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 5: not going to be his time to shine in the spring,

934
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 5: like when we're in shorts and T shirts, it's not

935
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 5: gonna really be his his you know, setting to thrive

936
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 5: in So let's see when the pads come on if

937
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 5: Dupree can block his way onto the roster, which is

938
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 5: probably his best path. Other than that, I think the

939
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 5: only other guy that really is notable at this point

940
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 5: is Jack on the offensive lineman from Boston College who

941
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 5: can basically play anywhere on the line besides maybe center.

942
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 5: But he's a big Dude's like six seven three to forty.

943
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 5: Can play guard, can play tackle, can play muscle tight end,

944
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 5: jumbo tight end. So he's got a lot of versatility.

945
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 5: So he's an interesting player.

946
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be interesting once the pads come on.

947
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: We'll see if you know, the Chisholms and the Larsons

948
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 2: can build off of whatever momentum they may or may

949
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: not have started to generate, you know, during the spring camps.

950
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, there there, I mean there's a lot of them.

951
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: This I want to say, sixteen Is this sixteen udfas. Yeah,

952
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: I mean, like I was going to say, there's there's

953
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: more than two dozen when you combine the first year

954
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: of players, you know, guys like John Giles, my left

955
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: Battle those kinds of guys. Oh yeah, with the udfas.

956
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 8: So.

957
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: Long way of me saying they are going to be

958
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: one or two at least that make the roster, because

959
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: there's just sheer numbers. It would be hard not to.

960
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: I wanted this.

961
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 5: There's a chance not to cut off. But there's a

962
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 5: chance that there's more twenty twenty five udfas on the

963
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 5: Patriots roster than twenty twenty four draft picks that that

964
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 5: there's a chance. I'm not saying it's no, I don't

965
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 5: and I don't think it's ridiculous, but like Drake May

966
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 5: is pretty much the only twenty twenty four draft pick

967
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 5: that's like one hundred percent going to be here, and.

968
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: So you can make an argument for or against you know,

969
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: the Bakers and the Polks of the world, right for sure. Yeah.

970
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: I wanted to stick with the PU hotline though, and

971
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: go back to Connecticut to Colin. Colin, what do you

972
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 2: got today? Colin? See Colin? First one, the first one worked,

973
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: second one didn't. I'll go to Emory in Virginia, and

974
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 2: then if not, we we push away from the black.

975
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: There we go Emory. Thank you, my friend.

976
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 5: Always rely on memory.

977
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 8: I've got good out to me in gentlemen, Hey, is

978
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 8: this conversation. I'll just restricted to the OTAs and the

979
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 8: upcoming training camp.

980
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: No, you could, We could go any direct you want.

981
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 8: Okay, thank you, Hey, listen, I got a question at

982
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 8: least a comment about a guy, a foreign player here

983
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 8: and I've been on this thing here for for a

984
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 8: couple of months, A Sante Samuel.

985
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 2: Yep.

986
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 8: When I look at his overall numbers, they're very compatible

987
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 8: to Tie Law. I'm not saying he was better than

988
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 8: Tie Law, but I think he's in that conversation. When

989
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 8: I look eleven season, one hundred and fifty seven games,

990
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 8: fifty one interceptions, seven of them returned for touchdowns. During

991
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 8: the record season, he has the postseason record for four

992
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 8: touchdowns interception term for touchdowns and any Paul everything, you

993
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 8: guys ever, try to reach out to him and see

994
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 8: what's up, Any chance in him maybe coming back to

995
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 8: the New England area, because I enjoyed watching that guy.

996
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 8: And my last statement, I never I never heard anything

997
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 8: negative about him as far as getting arrested or anything

998
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 8: like that.

999
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: No, but I don't think he was ever in any

1000
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: trouble off the field.

1001
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 5: It just doesn't like Bill.

1002
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was not a huge fan of Belichick, and

1003
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: it stemmed from what I think he felt was maybe

1004
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 2: some dishonesty from the coach to the player. I think

1005
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: when his contract was up, and I think that you know,

1006
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 2: it was I think as Santa Samuel felt like the

1007
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: team was very much in favor of resigning him, and

1008
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: it turned out that the coach was not necessarily in

1009
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: favor of resigning him, and he ended up going elsewhere.

1010
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: And you're right, he had a terrific career when he

1011
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: left here. You know, he had some good years in Philly.

1012
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: Good player. I mean, I think that ty Law was

1013
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: a better player. But when you started talking to Emory,

1014
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 2: I was thinking, you know, we never really even bring

1015
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: him up for a possibility of Patriots Hall of Fame,

1016
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: and maybe we should. Maybe he's a guy that we

1017
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: should be discussing in those me you know, I for

1018
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: obvious reasons we've talked about in many shows. He's got

1019
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: no shot right now to get past the process. But yeah,

1020
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 2: he's very good player for a lot of years, big

1021
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: big time plays too in big games.

1022
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, and a real turnover machine, like a guy that

1023
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 5: picked off a lot of passes, like Emory said. And

1024
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing, just from the relationship with

1025
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 5: the organization is he's been very vocally anti Bill Belichick.

1026
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, on social media, you know. And I'm not

1027
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 5: saying he's saying things that are like not any like

1028
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 5: rocket shots at Bill are necessarily in terms of personal stuff,

1029
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 5: but like just the coaching and like taking credit. I

1030
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 5: remember he took credit for like changing how corners in

1031
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 5: New England play to play off coverage more and the

1032
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 5: different steps that they take to get more interceptions on

1033
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 5: you know, just little things like that that he was

1034
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 5: He's been very critical of Bill about in general, and

1035
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 5: so it just that I don't know if that bridge

1036
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 5: will be meant Now. We talked a little bit because

1037
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 5: Emory called into Catch twenty two and asked about it too.

1038
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 5: With Samuel, he did overlap with Rabel for quite a bit.

1039
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 5: So maybe if they had any sort of relationship and

1040
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 5: if that door were ever to be open again, maybe

1041
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 5: it's it's Rabel bringing him back into sort of the family,

1042
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 5: so to speak here in New England. But a really

1043
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 5: good player. Now correct me if I'm wrong. But the

1044
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 5: ball went through his hands in Super Bowl so forty nine, yeah,

1045
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 5: or Super.

1046
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: Bowl No, the big super Bowl, yeah, forty two. It

1047
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: was the big one, and I always felt like he

1048
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: was given more blame for not making up the play

1049
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: than he than he deserved. I don't think it was

1050
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: a drop. I think the ball was high. Yeah, I

1051
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: think he kind of missed time to jump a little

1052
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 2: bit and was sort of on the way down when

1053
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: the ball was coming through. But it wasn't like a

1054
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: flat out drop. There's a that same drive. There's a

1055
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: ball that hit Brandon mary Weather in the chest that

1056
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: he didn't catch that no one ever brings up, but

1057
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: on the scale does he doesn't go on Twitter and

1058
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: make fun of Bill Belichick.

1059
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 5: So we know why on the scale of one to

1060
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 5: Wes Welker's drop in the next Super Bowl, where it is.

1061
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: Where more I think, well, is more of an egregious

1062
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: drop then then, And you know I've been very defensive

1063
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: of Welker too. I didn't. I just never really saw

1064
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 2: that play as well. That's a play that the defensive

1065
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: back has got to make. I didn't feel like it

1066
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: was that way. Now, maybe Christian Gonzales, with his you know,

1067
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: child elite athleticism, Ty Lowell, I don't think. I don't

1068
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: think you would have been able to get up that high. Yeah,

1069
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: Christian Gonzalez has a size and the athleticism. I think

1070
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: maybe to make the play. I just didn't look at

1071
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: it as like this blown play by Sante Samuel like

1072
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: everybody else did. But of course he left in free

1073
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: agency shortly thereafter, and it becomes he cost us an

1074
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: undefeated season. Yeah, you know, you know, you know me

1075
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: well enough. Those those little things sort of annoy me

1076
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1077
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 5: So remind remind me again though, of like when in

1078
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 5: the game, exactly was that?

1079
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 11: So?

1080
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 5: It was the it was right before the burst touchdown?

1081
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1082
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was on the sideline. You know, you know,

1083
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: he picks the pass off. The game's over, right, I mean,

1084
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 2: it's simple as that. Yeah, Andrew is in Maine. He's

1085
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: happy that we're holding down the Ford, but bummed that

1086
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 2: we would choose the Cape over Maine. Both are great,

1087
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: but if you guys are more Pool guys, then I

1088
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: guess I get it. But he says he was torn

1089
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 2: when the Patriots picked Henderson in the draft, thinking that

1090
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 2: the talent of Burden was more of a need. Whoever,

1091
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: I've come full circle on it and I am now

1092
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: loving it. The guy seems to do everything well. On

1093
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 2: that note, we are suddenly very deep at the position

1094
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: with Stevenson, Henderson, Gibson, and Larison throwing Laryson onto the

1095
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: depth chart. Now, while I love it, I'm wondering your

1096
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 2: thoughts on us possibly trading Stevenson next season for solid value.

1097
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: No disrespect to the guy at all. I love him,

1098
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: but I believe he is one of our higher one

1099
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: of the higher paid backs in the league now, and

1100
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: he did have seven fumbles last year. Maybe give Henderson

1101
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: this year to acclimate, but I'm seeing massive upside potential

1102
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: for him, and while he's fresh and on a rookie deal,

1103
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: we should consider it. I suspect of the four, Gibson

1104
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: and Larison is more likely to Gibson or Larison is

1105
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 2: more likely to go, but wanted to hear your thoughts.

1106
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 5: So I would be two things. One, I'd be wary

1107
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 5: of expecting to get much back from Stevenson. He is

1108
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 5: a running back that's now been paid well that typically

1109
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 5: you just don't see less it's Christian McCaffrey, like, you're

1110
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 5: not seeing teams giving up a ton of capital for

1111
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 5: a player that's at that position that has been paid right,

1112
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 5: I don't see that coming back. The other thing, Trayvon

1113
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 5: Henderson at his best is not a full time lead

1114
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 5: running back. He is a in a platoon, he's a spellback,

1115
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 5: he's a sub package back, pass, game back, whatever you

1116
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 5: want to call it. But I don't think that he's

1117
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 5: really destined to be a guy that is Derrick Henry

1118
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 5: where it's like all on his shoulders and he's out

1119
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 5: there seventy eighty percent of the time. I think you're

1120
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 5: going to run him into the ground doing that.

1121
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: He's not.

1122
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 5: He doesn't have the size, doesn't.

1123
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: I totally agree. I would say that I agree with

1124
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: Andrew's premise that Stevenson could be, you know, sort of

1125
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: nearing the end here, but not for the reasons that

1126
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: he says, because I don't do I agree with you.

1127
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 2: I don't think Henderson projects to be a bell cow.

1128
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 8: No.

1129
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: I did get a chance Humble Bragg to talk to

1130
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel a couple of weeks ago, and I asked him,

1131
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: you know, a question about the style preferred style of play.

1132
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of a generic, open ended question,

1133
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: but in my mind, I was thinking the way he

1134
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: played in Tennessee, and he fed right into He goes, well,

1135
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: we don't have a two hundred and fifty five pound

1136
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: running back. It was his way of saying, like, no,

1137
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: I had Dereck Henry, I had a special player at

1138
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: that position, and we obviously leaned on him. We would have,

1139
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 2: and silly not to. And He's right, I don't necessarily

1140
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: expect them to just sit there and say, well, we're

1141
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: gonna lean on mermondre Stevenson and we're gonna run the ball,

1142
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: you know, forty times a game and try to win

1143
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: that way. I would be surprised if they went about

1144
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: it that way.

1145
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wonder, you know, I'd be surprised if they

1146
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 5: did that too. I don't think that's the plan that

1147
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 5: I don't think it should be. But when it comes

1148
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 5: to that other group of if we put Henderson in

1149
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 5: there and Learson get gets a shout in there too,

1150
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 5: you get Larson, Gibson, Henderson, to me, there's a lot

1151
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 5: of overlap in terms of what those guys are bringing

1152
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 5: to the table in terms of skill set. Do you

1153
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 5: need all three of those guys on the roster? Like

1154
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 5: even Henderson and Gibson to me feel a little bit redundant,

1155
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 5: Like they're both really sub package pass game type of players,

1156
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 5: you know, space players, speedbacks. I just I wonder how

1157
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 5: that all sorts itself out, Because there's a world, in

1158
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 5: my opinion, where it's not gonna be Henderson. You just

1159
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 5: drafted him in the second round. He's gonna play. So

1160
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 5: is Antonio Gibson. What's his role where his snap's available

1161
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 5: to him? Is he here just in case of an emergency?

1162
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 5: If one of those guys get hurt, then he gets

1163
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 5: his opportunity right, and then he's just kind of sitting

1164
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 5: around the rest of the time on the sideline, Like,

1165
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 5: I just I don't know if Larison continues to do

1166
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 5: what he did in the spring when the pads come

1167
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 5: on in the summertime, and Antonio Gibson's a pretty expensive

1168
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 5: emergency back, Like, I don't know if you need to

1169
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 5: keep all of that here. So maybe it ends up

1170
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 5: being Gibson. That's the odd man now, because if Henderson's

1171
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 5: as good as we think he's going to be, then

1172
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 5: he's gonna be better at pretty much everything than Gibson.

1173
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 5: So like, where's Gibson? That's the factoring in. That's the hope.

1174
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the hope is that you know, I keep

1175
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 2: saying the same way, the players you're bringing in are

1176
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: better than the players they're replacing, and that's how you rebuild.

1177
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: That's the only way really to do it. Dan is

1178
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: in Virginia via Michigan. He's I'm trying to come out

1179
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: he's using his creative juices, because you know how when

1180
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: Mike and I do our shows together, it's Pp and

1181
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: the Deuce, of course, So it's time to come up

1182
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: with a name for Paul and Evan's show. With Evan's

1183
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: laser light focus on game details and Paul's rep for

1184
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: pointing out virtually anything negative that could possibly come up

1185
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: in any situation, could you, guys be the light in

1186
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: the dark or with the occasionally snarky nature of both

1187
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: of you, not to mention your respective hair colors, Paul's

1188
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: love of music, Could Salt and Pepper be a better fit?

1189
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: I kind of like that.

1190
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 5: I do like that.

1191
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: I like salt and pepper. I do that. Oh, he

1192
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: writes pepper, so he doesn't know it's pepper.

1193
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1194
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: In terms of things that we're excited or concerned about,

1195
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: one question I have is regarding the coach's perspective for

1196
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: this season. Do you think they're taking a bottom line

1197
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: approach and only looking at wins and losses or are

1198
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: they taking a more nuanced approach like the PU Crew,

1199
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: where it's more of a matter of whether they're seeing improvement.

1200
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 2: If it's the latter, what criteria do you think they're

1201
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: looking at. Aside from vabel statement about being good enough

1202
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: to take advantage of bad football.

1203
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,919
Speaker 5: Well, I think that is the bottom line. I think

1204
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 5: that's where he's at right now. I don't think that

1205
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 5: they're ever going to put wins lost totals out there,

1206
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 5: and I don't think Mike rabl is gonna come out

1207
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 5: ever and say I expect us to win ten games

1208
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 5: this year like that. There's just no reason to do that.

1209
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 5: But in terms of where the baseline is, yeah, I

1210
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 5: think that they feel like every year in this league

1211
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 5: there's a million coin flip games every single week where

1212
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 5: a team that just makes a couple of less mistakes

1213
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 5: than the other team is the one that ends up

1214
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 5: winning the game. If you can do that more often

1215
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 5: this year, and you don't have losses like you did

1216
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 5: last year, like I always to me, the one that

1217
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 5: always stands out is the one in Tennessee, Like that

1218
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 5: was such a winnable game in Tennessee that you just

1219
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 5: really cost yourself a win down there. If you can

1220
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 5: win that type of game this year, and that's progress.

1221
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 5: And if you don't just do it once, you got

1222
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 5: to do it multiple times. But if you are winning

1223
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 5: those types of games, that's going to get you to

1224
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 5: seven or eight wins and then we'll see where the

1225
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 5: cards lie in terms of the other games. But that

1226
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 5: to me is the baseline. Like, if you can beat

1227
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 5: those types of teams and you can come out of

1228
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 5: playing mistake free football and better, you know, cleaner football

1229
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 5: than these other teams that are worse than you, then

1230
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 5: you're in good shape.

1231
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: So in order to do that, they're going to obviously

1232
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: have to play better defense. You know, I'm thinking of

1233
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: that Tennessee game that you bring up, And do you

1234
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: remember how the overtime, the first first possession in overtime,

1235
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: Tennessee got the ball and they you know, no one

1236
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: talks about that that drive the way they do the

1237
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: Jacksonville drive that happened in London, But it was virtually

1238
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 2: the same thing. And there's find up and ran the

1239
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: ball like a hundred times in a row.

1240
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 5: The opening drive of the game too, they did the

1241
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 5: same thing right down the field.

1242
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 2: Jeremy is a little concerned you know, with all the

1243
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 2: improvement they made on defense, he's a little worried about

1244
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 2: Terrell Williams, you know, and his his presence. Do you

1245
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: think that they've missed him and what will they you know,

1246
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 2: what will they do if he's not able to come

1247
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: back as has they have they been handicapped at all

1248
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: by his absence?

1249
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 5: I don't know if they've been handicapped in in May

1250
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 5: and June. I think that would be a little strong

1251
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 5: to say that this is starting to affect them already.

1252
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 5: But I definitely feel as though they have enough continuity

1253
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 5: with the staff, meaning guys that were with Rabel and

1254
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 5: Tennessee and understand how he wants to run the defense

1255
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 5: and how Terrell Williams wants to run the defense that

1256
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 5: you can install a defense because they have enough guys

1257
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 5: that have already been in the defense. But in terms

1258
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 5: of the other stuff, yeah, it's obviously concern once we

1259
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 5: get in season. You know, play calling is a big one.

1260
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 5: It would be probably Zach Kerr that would be the

1261
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 5: true de facto defensive coordinator calling plays. It was their

1262
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 5: game planning good enough? Is there really with a guy

1263
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 5: like Terrell Williams? Is their motivation factor good enough. I

1264
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 5: think that's what he's been most known for, is like

1265
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 5: a rally the troops, raw rock kind of coach. Do

1266
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 5: they still have that kind of energy and do they

1267
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 5: still play with that kind of fire in that buzz

1268
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 5: on game day. That's what he's been known for, is

1269
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 5: getting that out of players.

1270
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: Hopefully they'll be able to have all of that in play.

1271
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: But I agree with you. I think it's it's Zach

1272
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: Core and he's the guy that's been sort of the

1273
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: interim in Terrell Williams. They've made a big deal out

1274
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: of this, the players, the coaches, and Williams himself has

1275
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: been very actively involved from a communications standpoint. They've been

1276
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 2: in communication every day. I don't think it has handicapped

1277
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: anything as of yet. Not an ideal situation if it

1278
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: lasts into the season, for sure, I totally understand where

1279
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 2: the concern would be there. Speaking of concerns, Patrick in

1280
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: Ottawa is right along our lines, the offensive line, you know,

1281
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: is this really what we're gonna go with? I usually

1282
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: worry about injury and whatnot, but I think if we

1283
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: get one or two guys goes down, we're in a

1284
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 2: lot of trouble. Any additions that they might be able

1285
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 2: to make. Yeah, talked a little bit about that earlier.

1286
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 5: It's obviously fair. I mean you went into the off

1287
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Speaker 5: season with major holes at really both tackle spots and

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Speaker 5: then obviously the hole that was created at center with

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Speaker 5: David Andrews being released and then retiring. So we've talked

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Speaker 5: about this. It's gonna take a couple of years to

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Speaker 5: build out the depth of the entire roster. Like right now,

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Speaker 5: I feel much better about where they're all twenty two

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Speaker 5: is on. You know, if they're starting eleven on both

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Speaker 5: sides of the ball, I feel like has improved. But

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Speaker 5: they've sunk all their resources into getting the starters improved.

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Speaker 5: So that doesn't necessarily mean that the second, the second

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Speaker 5: stringers and the third stringers are going to be improved

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Speaker 5: because all your top resources are going to Will Campbell

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Speaker 5: and you know, just to Fawon Diggs and to Milton

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Speaker 5: Williams and those that top of the roster type of guys.

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Speaker 5: So it's gonna be tough, Like if they if Will

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Speaker 5: Campbell knock on Wood, If Will Campbell gets hurt, it's

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Speaker 5: Vederian Lowe is probably back into the starting lineup. If

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Speaker 5: Morgan Moses gets hurt, then it's cut Caden Wallace or

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Speaker 5: Trey Jacobs or whatever. So you're probably right back to

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Speaker 5: where you were.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely last year. That's why it's our biggest concern. What

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Speaker 2: about halfway? We're moving all right here.

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Speaker 5: Right, thanks Salt and Pepper.

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Speaker 8: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: We're going Fred? Who is just Mike? What?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know, Mike's a defense guy.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't know if he only likes hockey.

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Speaker 2: And in defense. And it's ironic because he played no defense.

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Speaker 2: When he played defenseman in hockey, he was more of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that sounds right.

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Speaker 2: So we h. I want to get to that quarter

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to p you Extra teasepound here

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Speaker 1: with Chris Cassidy. Yeah we got that right there. Guys,

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Speaker 1: So Chris, let's get into it. Got some Christian La

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Speaker 1: love and hate. I don't know, I haven't clicked in yet,

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Speaker 1: but Christian in La. Bill from Norfolk what's worse than

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Speaker 1: listening to Christian try and talk about football, to try

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Speaker 1: and talk about his personal life. I try to tuote

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Speaker 1: him out because I started, I started to cringe at

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Speaker 1: the sound of his voice. My theory as to why

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Speaker 1: you guys keep it allying him on is because he

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Speaker 1: fills that Eric's size void in your heart. Someone who

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Speaker 1: sounds pretentious that we all love to hate. Go Pat's

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Speaker 1: undefeated season covered with chishom winning Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Oh listen, well there's a lot of takecare.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, what a subtle little plunge of Chisholm.

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Speaker 1: Christian from LA. We don't hate you here because we

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Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, listen occasionally, but not enough.

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Speaker 7: This is definitely a safe space. People need to stop

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Speaker 7: stop with the Christian from LA.

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Speaker 1: Christians, send your rebuttal here and we'll read it live.

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Speaker 1: But Chris, all right, so we got that Christian LA.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll get back to him.

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Speaker 14: We do.

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Speaker 1: We do, miss scal by the way scowls before your time.

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Speaker 1: But we'll talk about I mean, guys, he's got that juice.

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Speaker 7: He's sounded pretty good camp so far, I mean, I think.

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Speaker 1: But remember it's June.

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Speaker 2: It is June.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's early. I mean mini camps just wrapped up.

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Speaker 10: Obviously, he was here all OTAs Between him and Lan Larson,

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Speaker 10: I've really been truly like the main guys who's had

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Speaker 10: a lot of focus from from coaches and you know,

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Speaker 10: I think, I mean, from my point of view, I

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Speaker 10: think they've shown a lot of improvement over their time

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Speaker 10: being here so far as on drafted free agents. But uh,

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Speaker 10: you know, I think Chismus has some some promise.

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Speaker 1: You know, New England we love our underdog story wide

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Speaker 1: receiver and he is He's showing all those trades right now,

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Speaker 1: so people are keep grasping at things from the past.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, we'll hopefully he can work out for

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Speaker 1: the next six weeks and carry this over to July.

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Speaker 10: What's cool about these guys too, is like I mean,

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Speaker 10: they know what's on the line, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 10: It's like you kind of get brought of the situation. Okay,

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Speaker 10: I wasn't drafted, but I'm being put in this premier

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Speaker 10: organization and I have to showcase, like you know, they're

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Speaker 10: trying to make it, make a stance and we kind

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Speaker 10: of come up a little bit here in the division.

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Speaker 10: The league you know, you gotta show that you can

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Speaker 10: do it as well.

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Speaker 1: And I want to play for I will say we

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Speaker 1: went out to some of the practices at night and

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Speaker 1: day difference at least just for it looks just more

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Speaker 1: controlled and organized. Everybody kind of knows what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited for this, this training.

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Speaker 7: Camp coming, It'll be cool, It'll be cool.

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Speaker 1: All Right. We got some over unders from spiing Fresno

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Speaker 1: ready games with the same starting O line five and

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Speaker 1: a half.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go over this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, barring barring, I think I.

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Speaker 10: Think center is the number one area that could have movement,

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Speaker 10: not not guard left guard.

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Speaker 7: I do. I do believe center will be the focus

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Speaker 7: this year.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Drake May passing touchdowns nineteen and a half,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go over. I like I'm

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Speaker 1: being optimistic. I think you need to go over.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna say over, But like nineteen kind of sounds.

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Speaker 14: Like a pushya Okay, I don't know why, but it's

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Speaker 14: a pretty good number passing league. I'm gonna say I

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Speaker 14: think he'll get twenty two, you know, at this one

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Speaker 14: Patriots rushing touchdowns fifteen and a half.

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Speaker 1: I think the passing is gonna be higher because I

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Speaker 1: think fifteen and a half is it's gonna be. I

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Speaker 1: think it might be under.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a lot of rollouts with

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Speaker 1: little like five yard yeah, screen touchdowns.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you can also.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I say I'm curious in corporation of Drake

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01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,839
Speaker 10: runs because they take that in the factor, especially inside

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Speaker 10: the five for the zone fake or bootleg or something

1452
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 10: like kind of you have the ability with drip options now, yeah,

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Speaker 10: you have options now yeah, and again if you if

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Speaker 10: you keep speed on that running back.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm saying under because the passing attacks so good.

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Speaker 7: I agree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Secondary secondary is league wide ranking seven

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Speaker 1: and seventh.

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Speaker 7: League wide ranking seventh. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go

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Speaker 7: over this.

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Speaker 1: Year over so being they're gonna be ranked higher.

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Speaker 7: I think they're gonna be ranked higher. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 7: they could be top five this year.

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Speaker 1: No fly zone yeah, yeah, Okay, we're on that feather

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01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: ruffling postgame pressers by Rabel one and a half. I hope,

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Speaker 1: I hope it's undertaking. I hope it's under because that

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Speaker 1: means we've we've had a good season.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna just safely say under on

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Speaker 10: that one.

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Speaker 1: Number of moderate or worse scandal to hit the program

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Speaker 1: this year one and a half under under Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: scandal start start week one.

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Speaker 7: It's always gonna be good.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Eric Scalvino incognito appearances at home games zero point five

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01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: obviously because he hates football. I'm under the mindset like

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Speaker 1: love scal. Shout out scal if you still listen. I

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01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: don't think he's watched a single snap of Patriots football

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Speaker 1: willingly since he left. So yeah, I wish I got

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Speaker 1: to know him. No, he was these great him, one

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Speaker 1: of a kind. All right, let's wrap it up with

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Speaker 1: one more real quick more Christian from La Logan from

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Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach. Christian from La gets so much hate it's wild. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he said a d bag comment once in a while,

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Speaker 1: But if he got it like that, I'm more interested

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01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: to know what he does for a living and how

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Speaker 1: he could get it. On question for the crew, who

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Speaker 1: do y'all think will be the sleeper defensive player to

1489
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: make the team have an actual role on defense. I

1490
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: feel like we're pretty deep across the board accept at linebacker.

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01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: I could see a dB or pass rusher stepping up

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01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: having an unexpected impact for the team this year.

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with from the D line from North Carolina.

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01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 10: I think he's a big body, you kind of fill

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01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 10: the inside. He's an animal. I like Javari Ritzy a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the dB sneaks in. Yeah, and like,

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Speaker 1: you know, more special team stuff like that, because like

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Speaker 1: we the starters are elite, but one of the defensive

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Speaker 1: backs I think.

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Speaker 10: I mean Javari Ritzy being a un drafted rook Yeah,

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01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 10: I think, you know, I think he's a lot.

1502
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 7: I think he's a really big chance of meeting the team.

1503
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Chris, that was a good one, right there, Guys,

1504
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: once again, send you emails a podcast at Patriots dot com.

1505
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: If it doesn't get around the show, we'll read it here.

1506
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: Let's get back to it, and now great moments in history.

1507
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to push back here on everybody. What does

1508
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: everybody have against Robbie Anderson.

1509
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 2: He's never made an important catch in his.

1510
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 6: Career, like against us, he's done well. When oh I

1511
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 6: remember a game and a bellow, don't maybe go on

1512
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 6: my phone. Go deuce, you have a computer there. You

1513
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 6: want to know the answer that he's a thoroughly average player.

1514
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: Who, yeah, is he's.

1515
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: Like a David Gibbons type, isn't he?

1516
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have no interest in David Gibbons right now?

1517
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, right now. But they need a number

1518
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 6: one receiver. David Gibbons isn't there, and I don't think

1519
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 6: Robbie Anderson is either. No.

1520
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 2: No, But that's why I'm not interested.

1521
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 1: They had though he's not going to get number one money.

1522
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 2: Of course it is, you think, so that's what he makes.

1523
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 2: Why do you think he's on the block. Okay, so

1524
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 2: you guys want to hear about a thanks for the sign?

1525
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, please do? Because I have the prolific career.

1526
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 2: There was one reasonably good game.

1527
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 3: There was one reasonly the game where he was targeted

1528
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 3: twelve times and had four catches for seventies.

1529
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 2: That is the apex.

1530
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:48,759
Speaker 3: Right here we go, two for thirty four, none for none,

1531
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 3: one for two, three for twenty four, three for eleven,

1532
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 3: one for ten, and one for two.

1533
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 2: He is zero to nine career against the Patriots. Man

1534
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 2: he's had.

1535
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm thinking of Wayne Krebet. That's another great moment.

1536
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 2: See Alex took care of me. Have you noticed lately,

1537
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 2: like the the great moments in PU history of really

1538
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 2: not allowed me to necessarily shine. Some of my more

1539
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 2: ridiculous arguments have been focused on lately.

1540
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 5: That was a good one.

1541
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 7: That was one.

1542
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: I was like Robbie Anderson, Fred, why are you in

1543
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 2: love with Robbie Anderson? He's had big games against the Patriots,

1544
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: went two for twelve one zero, And I like Mike

1545
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: reason zero fiz zero none for none.

1546
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1547
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 5: I definitely remember we were talking about Stefan Gilmour earlier.

1548
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 5: I definitely remember Stefan gilmore someone asked him before a

1549
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 5: Jets game. I believe it was about Robbie Anderson and

1550
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 5: he did not have too many concerns about going up

1551
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 5: against Robbie Anderson. Is like, well, he's fast. He was

1552
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 5: trying to find something to say nice about him, and

1553
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 5: he just couldn't.

1554
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 2: I remember, similar to that, I used to do like

1555
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 2: a little matchup of the week, and I would try

1556
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 2: to get you know, like the defensive backs against the

1557
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 2: good receiver or whatever. And I remember it was the

1558
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 2: year after Antonio Brown left Pittsburgh and it was Juju

1559
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: was like the.

1560
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 5: Guy, Oh, it's jac Jackson, right, And it.

1561
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 2: Wasn't just him. It was even guys like Devin mccordy,

1562
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:27,480
Speaker 2: who were normally like pretty you know, conservative in their comments.

1563
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 2: They didn't necessarily say anything bad. It was more what

1564
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: they didn't say. It was Gilmore and mccordy and I

1565
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 2: was writing this matchup up and I was like, you know,

1566
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,839
Speaker 2: and they're like, you know, Antonio Brown's a different animal.

1567
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 2: You know, it was all about Antonio Brown and how

1568
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 2: great he was. But by omission they were telling you

1569
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 2: this ain't Antonio Brown, this is nothing to worry And

1570
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 2: like Gilmore, you know, very quietly as you can remember

1571
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: the way he used to just whisper it like yeah,

1572
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 2: he won't do anything against me, like something like that.

1573
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I guess I'll leave that party.

1574
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, they remember.

1575
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 12: J C.

1576
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 5: Jackson similarly, was talking about Juju and somebody at the

1577
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 5: time Juju was having a really good year. Is that

1578
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 5: second season where he had that big production production season,

1579
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 5: And someone asked J. C. Jackson if he thought Juju

1580
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 5: was a top ten receiver in the NFL. And I

1581
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 5: just remember j C. Jackson like looking bewildered and being

1582
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 5: like top Juju, like in the top ten. Yeah, they

1583
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 5: did not think very highly of Juju, which maybe we

1584
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 5: should have known that that signing wasn't going to work out,

1585
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 5: but yeah it was. It was funny whenever.

1586
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 2: I got a couple of quick you know, would you

1587
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: rather games? And I think these guys now are starting

1588
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 2: to take it a little bit more of the way

1589
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 2: Alex likes. So, Alex, I'm just looking for juice. Alic

1590
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 2: took his ball and went home, you know. So let's

1591
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 2: see who is this? This is from David. Would you

1592
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 2: rather put a toothpick under your toenail and kick a wall? What?

1593
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: Or be a beat writer for the Cleveland Browns until

1594
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 2: the day you die?

1595
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 5: A beat writer for the Cleveland Browns?

1596
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 2: Out?

1597
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 5: Why would I want to hurt myself?

1598
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 2: I would largely agree with that. The next one is

1599
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 2: be addicted to heroin Jesus awfully harsh. We'll live the

1600
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 2: rest of your life without being able to see, all right,

1601
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 2: I'd lose my sight?

1602
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, add hero.

1603
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 2: Let's see chug chug a full glass of water the

1604
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 2: players soak in after a game was stared directly into

1605
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 2: the sun for one whole minute.

1606
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 5: I'm probably staring into the sun. I'll be fine, me too, Yeah,

1607
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 5: it'll be fine.

1608
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 2: Uh, this is out there, Yeah, this is this is

1609
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 2: this is what happens when you go up to Maine.

1610
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 2: What are we doing? Live in antarctica for the rest

1611
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 2: of your life. We'll go to the rest of your

1612
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: life eating only pickles.

1613
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 5: In Antarctica. I can eat whatever I want in antarctica.

1614
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 5: There's no restrictions.

1615
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:00,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would take Antarctica. Yeah, not ideal,

1616
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 2: but you know, pickles. I mean, I like pickles, but

1617
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 2: I'm not a pickles I get awfully sick of them

1618
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:06,759
Speaker 2: in a in a hurry.

1619
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: No, I think those were trying too hard. Those are

1620
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: trying a bit too hard.

1621
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, the drug one, here's one.

1622
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 2: Let's see if this one can get it just right then,

1623
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 2: because this is oh yeah, this is this is Kyle,

1624
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: I think with a response to Alex, who thought he

1625
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 2: was he was given us softballs, So he says, Gonza

1626
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 2: may get injured for the year in camp. What would

1627
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: you rather?

1628
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 5: I mean, why come on, I guess I got to say,

1629
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 5: because doctor Korak, like, what are we doing?

1630
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: Oh, here's an interesting one for you. The Patriots only

1631
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,919
Speaker 2: win two games or the Celtics only win thirty games.

1632
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 2: I would take the Celtics only winn thirty because Jason

1633
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,759
Speaker 2: Tatum's hurt. I would say, you get your you built

1634
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 2: an excuse. Oh man, I'm gonna say the Patriots only

1635
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: winning too, because this is my.

1636
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 5: Job, Like I'm covering here anyway. Yeah, I'm covering them

1637
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 5: whether they win two games or twelve games. That the

1638
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 5: Celtics is like what gives me life? So I would

1639
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 5: say that I need the Celtics to be good more right, And.

1640
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 2: He says the Bruins, Bruins or Patriots never make it

1641
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,480
Speaker 2: back to the playoffs for the rest of the decade.

1642
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 5: I'm bruined. Sorry to my fiance.

1643
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 2: But me too. And obviously Alex says, thanks for reading.

1644
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 2: It's all in jest. Yes, So Alex gets his way.

1645
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,759
Speaker 2: He gets a couple of disgusting Would you rather.

1646
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: Like the disgusting ones? That's trying way too hard? Those

1647
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: are the sports ones. Those are pretty good.

1648
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 2: So let's go back to the PU hotline and checking

1649
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: out with our good buddy Sean and Vancouver Sean. What's up.

1650
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 11: Congratulations to Drake and and Michael May on their recent

1651
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 11: marriage at Honeyboot. I like this because it shows.

1652
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 5: Should should that it's okay, but.

1653
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 11: You know, it's it's It's just what I like about

1654
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 11: it is it's it's between camps, right, so you're not

1655
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 11: inter interrupting the any kind of uh Patriots stuff with life,

1656
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 11: big life moments like you you're like you're planning that.

1657
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know about that though.

1658
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 2: A prior regime cost Jared Stone an opportunity to compete

1659
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 2: for a job, and I think he just went to

1660
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 2: a wedding. I don't even think it was his wedding.

1661
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,719
Speaker 5: No, I think I guess it.

1662
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 11: Was like when they were off what like now it's

1663
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 11: it's it's between camps like you.

1664
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, statement did it in the off season too.

1665
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 11: Oh my gosh, that's crazy. Yeah, it's built tough, so so.

1666
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 11: But I also wanted to say, like here in Northwest,

1667
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 11: you might like it in the summer because like the

1668
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 11: high today is seventy two, very nice, so it might

1669
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 11: be nice to weather for you to come to the

1670
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 11: next year.

1671
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: Is it just is it just right, Sean, It's just perfect.

1672
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 5: I've heard I've heard a lot of great things about Vancouver.

1673
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: Moderate, not too hot, not too cold, Oh that's good.

1674
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 2: I'm happy for you. I'm happy for you.

1675
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 5: I would I would like to visit Vancouver, not even kidding,

1676
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 5: but it's it's so far. But like, I've heard great

1677
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:20,879
Speaker 5: things about Vancous.

1678
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: I've never been there, and I have heard people talk

1679
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,799
Speaker 2: about how nice it is. You know, Seattle's beautiful.

1680
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 11: It's like a six hour flight.

1681
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 2: I always think it's you know, Seattle's got to be

1682
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 2: pretty close, right, I mean not close proximity, but like weatherwise,

1683
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 2: climate and all that, and yeah in Seattle. Seattle's beautiful.

1684
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 5: And Seattle's still I keep track of all the because

1685
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 5: I'm I'm spoiled and I get to go to a

1686
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 5: lot of NFL stadiums. Seattle's still not still never been.

1687
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 2: You haven't checked that one out. It's a good place.

1688
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 5: I went to San Francisco for the first time last year,

1689
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 5: but not Seattle.

1690
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 2: Sean, what worries you most about the Patriots heading into camp?

1691
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 11: Like most people that it's the offensive line.

1692
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that's the answer.

1693
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 11: That was the biggest problem last year. So they have improved,

1694
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 11: but it's very uh kind of temperamental.

1695
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's the answer. Thanks Sean.

1696
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 2: You know, make sure stay stay comfortable, stay comfortable out there.

1697
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 2: I don't want you to get overheated or anything. Uh,

1698
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 2: Noah in Toronto. I bet you. Noah likes it when

1699
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 2: he gets warm. He's he's in Toronto, so it's hockey

1700
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 2: season the whole year. Noah, what's up?

1701
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 12: Hey?

1702
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 15: Uh? I think it's I don't know, something that bothers me,

1703
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 15: but it's probably not a big a deal. But I

1704
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 15: just am frustrated that they haven't addressed left guard better.

1705
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 15: I feel like they hit so much gap space in

1706
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 15: the offseason and they still have like about forty million

1707
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 15: ax effective gap space, and like Steven now, they're still

1708
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 15: guys that are like grated for adult vers there, and

1709
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 15: I just I'm kind of tired of going into the

1710
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 15: season with like a glaring hole at one of the

1711
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 15: offensive line spots. And I don't get by eight.

1712
01:22:59,400 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1713
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 15: I guess they're comfortable with Spree and you know, whoever

1714
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 15: else is battling it out, but I don't really that's

1715
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 15: comfortable with them anyways. That's just what they want to

1716
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 15: get off my chest. And then the other thing, I

1717
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 15: was wondering if I've been really watching the two thousand

1718
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 15: and three season, and I'm wondering if you guys had

1719
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 15: sort of Matrio it's unfiltered or whatever a fish club

1720
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 15: then available for they scanned and yeah, I'll take it

1721
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 15: off the air.

1722
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had some issues with the phone then.

1723
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 5: Yes, I think he asked it was asking if we

1724
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 5: have he rewatched trying to rewatch the games. I mean

1725
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,839
Speaker 5: a lot of them are on YouTube, just like obviously

1726
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 5: does we have them, But I don't think that that's

1727
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:45,520
Speaker 5: for public consumption.

1728
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,600
Speaker 2: But Deuce like just goes on YouTube to watch the

1729
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 2: whole eighty five season.

1730
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of it's on YouTube, if that's what

1731
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 5: you're looking for. But yeah, that was the thing about

1732
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 5: Left Guard, Like I I'm with him, but I also

1733
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 5: just to just to be fair, I see what they

1734
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 5: might have been thinking too, which is, hey, we we've

1735
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 5: drafted a lot of guards in the last couple of years,

1736
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 5: Laden Robinson City, sow Cole Strange. Maybe you think Kiden

1737
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 5: Wallace is really naturally a guard with relatively high jaking

1738
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 5: and mix, Like you would think that one of those

1739
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 5: four or five guys is going to work out and

1740
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 5: so to then go out and pay another offensive lineman

1741
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 5: a veteran salary. I agree it was a spot that

1742
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 5: they probably could have gotten a Morgan Moses of left

1743
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 5: guards and just set it and forget it type of player.

1744
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 5: But I also understand, Hey, we we feel pretty high

1745
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 5: about Laden Robinson.

1746
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 2: What's the guy's name. I want to say he went

1747
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 2: to maybe I'm thinking of a center. He went from

1748
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 2: Indie to Minnesota, which made Berry Ryan Kelly center. Okay,

1749
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 2: that's not the guy I was thinking of. I think

1750
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 2: I think there was with the Patriots really interested in him.

1751
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 2: I don't think I thought there was a guard that's

1752
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 2: highly regarded, that got good money and free agency the

1753
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 2: Patriots were interested in. Oh now I can't remember it.

1754
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean so that So that was the other

1755
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 5: thing about the guard spot too, is that and not

1756
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 5: that this is the Ben end All be all, But

1757
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 5: a lot of the free agents were right guards, career

1758
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 5: right guards, So like you could have signed Brandon Sheriff

1759
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 5: and moved him from right guard to left guard, and

1760
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 5: he's a good NFL player, so he probably would have

1761
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 5: survived and it probably would have been fine. But other

1762
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 5: than Tony, there really wasn't a guy that was like, Okay,

1763
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 5: this is a true left guard. That's a really good

1764
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 5: player that's available.

1765
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 2: That's a second guest. Wasn't a huge uh you know

1766
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 2: package for the trade that Chicago they wanted to pay,

1767
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 2: you know, they agreed to pay.

1768
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's just that's the one.

1769
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 2: You had the money. As Sean point it out.

1770
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, James Daniels moved from Pittsburgh to Miami free agency.

1771
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 5: He's a you know, guy that's played a little center,

1772
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 5: a little bit of guard, that probably could have played

1773
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 5: left guard, but he's coming off an injury. I get it.

1774
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 5: I think that that's if we look back on the

1775
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 5: off season, there's probably gonna be two second guesses. One

1776
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 5: is going to be that receiver trade like a DK

1777
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 5: Metcalf deal that they didn't do, and the other is

1778
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 5: probably going to be not again the more who is

1779
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 5: the Morgan Moses of left guards? Just a veteran that

1780
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 5: for one year is going to come in and make

1781
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 5: sure that spot is taken care of and as you

1782
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 5: develop some of these other guys behind them, Yeah.

1783
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 2: I mean absolutely fair. Second guess is we'll see Cole Strange.

1784
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 2: I think this is a crossroads year obviously, and we'll

1785
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 2: see if his athleticism wins out or if he just

1786
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 2: doesn't have it. Yeah, you know from a health standpoint,

1787
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 2: Especially Nick in New York is the next to chime

1788
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 2: in with his his worries a little bit of a

1789
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 2: different concern here. He's wondering if any of us has

1790
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: any problems about Milton Williams run defense.

1791
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 5: So I can't lie and I don't want to change

1792
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 5: now that he's a Patriot and they made the move.

1793
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 5: I had pointed out when they made the move right

1794
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 5: around there that he has never been the guy on

1795
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 5: the defensive line. You know, he's played on a stacked

1796
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 5: defensive line in Philadelphia. He's been a i'd say part

1797
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 5: time is probably a little strong. He's been a rotational

1798
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,759
Speaker 5: player on that defensive line. He's certainly favored more playing

1799
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 5: the pass and being in on obvious pass like third

1800
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 5: downs and things like that. So when he plays more,

1801
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 5: does his production follow, like does the efficiency continue when

1802
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 5: he plays more snaps? So that now he's just even

1803
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 5: more productive than he was in Philadelphia in a bigger

1804
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 5: role or was he that type of guy that was

1805
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 5: really built to be in a bigger rotation and playing

1806
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 5: maybe being Robin to Jalen Carter's batman. I mean, that's

1807
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 5: my concern that that's a legitimate concern. It is, and

1808
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 5: we'll see if he ends up playing that. Now for

1809
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 5: the Patriots, maybe they think that even if they have

1810
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 5: two Robins and Christian Barmore and Milton Williams, two Robins

1811
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 5: equals a batman, so like they'll play off of each

1812
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 5: other and they'll be okay, just you know, having each

1813
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 5: other there. But it's a fair point. Milton Williams. In general,

1814
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 5: I think there's there's not zero risk with that signing.

1815
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 2: So you know that fourth of July is right around

1816
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 2: the corner, right, you know who else knows?

1817
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 5: Bob, Bob our big friend.

1818
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 2: Bob has us covered, he says, Attention team, the fourth

1819
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 2: of July is just around the corner, and you can

1820
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,759
Speaker 2: stock up on everything you need to host a winning weekend.

1821
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 2: Get together at Bob's discount furniture. Join Bob's for the

1822
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 2: fourth celebration and shop must have us for every room

1823
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Speaker 2: like featured pack sectionals perfect for hosting party, reading, dining sets,

1824
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Speaker 2: party ready, I should say, dining sets and consumer reports

1825
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Speaker 2: recommended mattresses at unbelievable values. Queue the fireworks, so stop

1826
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,799
Speaker 2: band and get holiday weekend ready. At Bob's Discount Furniture,

1827
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 2: the official furniture store of the New England Patriots. If

1828
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk a little bit about I want

1829
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 2: to transition a little bit and get to the quarter

1830
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 2: century team. Very controversial right at the right at the top.

1831
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 2: And this is something I think was a it was

1832
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 2: a combo platter here from ESPN and PFF. Correct guys, right,

1833
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 2: all your guys, the Aaron shatz is of the world.

1834
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 2: Well he is, he is in here, Okay, So then

1835
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: that's yeah, Shats has some of these right. Oh geez,

1836
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 2: looks like Shats wrote a lot of these.

1837
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 14: Right.

1838
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 2: Well, he's Seth Walder.

1839
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 5: Seth is an analytics guy.

1840
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a lot of different guys like that that

1841
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 2: are involved.

1842
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 5: Seth very excited about the Patriots rebuilding their analytics department. Oh,

1843
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 5: very excited about it.

1844
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 2: Absolutely they should be. Yeah, they should be. So a

1845
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 2: couple of stipulations they had for this team, and this

1846
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 2: is just what it sounds like. It's a quarter century.

1847
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 2: We're twenty twenty five, so it's the best players in

1848
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 2: the league. He says. Players are still eligible if they

1849
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 2: began their careers in the nineties, but only production beginning

1850
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 2: with the two thousand season was considered. Decisions were made

1851
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 2: mostly on statistical outputs, so this is perfect for Evan

1852
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 2: focusing on peak seasons while still rewarding longevity. We relied

1853
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 2: heavily on ftns d Y, a ar metric defense adjusted

1854
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 2: yards above replacement. This is right up your round. So

1855
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 2: this is right now you're saying, oh, just keep it coming.

1856
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 5: This is This is basically if you're a baseball fan,

1857
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 5: this is war but football.

1858
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 2: Style even less relevant, which calculates a player's value over

1859
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 2: the course of the season compared to a replacement level baseline.

1860
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 2: Other advanced statistics were also taken into account. This team

1861
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 2: includes twenty five offensive players, twenty three defensive players, and

1862
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 2: five special teams play with. For another wrinkle, we filled

1863
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 2: out a full practice squad with the players who just

1864
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 2: missed the cut and listed them in their respected position groups.

1865
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, So, without further ado,

1866
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get right to it. I'm gonna go position

1867
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 2: by position. I'll read you the guys. You tell me

1868
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 2: if you have you know any any thoughts or problems.

1869
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 2: Quarterback really controversial Tom Brady. I don't see it. I

1870
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 2: don't see it. Dog, Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes. Those are

1871
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 2: your three quarterbacks.

1872
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 5: Sounds about right.

1873
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 2: Okay, practice squad, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees.

1874
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 5: Pretty good practice squad.

1875
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 2: I don't have any issues with that. That would have

1876
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 2: been the way I did it too. I would have

1877
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 2: given him Mahomes the nod over Aaron Rodgers were winning.

1878
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:51,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I probably agree with that. Here's where it gets

1879
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 5: me too, But I respect the numbers. I mean you,

1880
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 5: of all people, he's a.

1881
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 2: I think you know, well, I don't have to trash

1882
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 2: a guy after his career, but I think he never

1883
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 2: won an important game like he really they lost so

1884
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 2: many home playoff games and games that they were like, yeah,

1885
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 2: substantial favorite the probably. I think they were very lucky

1886
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 2: to get to the super Bowl the year they won it.

1887
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,640
Speaker 2: The guys that are Brett far he Brett farved him

1888
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 2: to the super.

1889
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 5: Bowl atte Farv or like Big Ben. Like you can

1890
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 5: say the same thing about those Steelers teams as the

1891
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 5: Saints that they were kind of underperformers in a lot

1892
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 5: of ways too, So I get it.

1893
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 2: So running backs, they also picked three. I didn't like

1894
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 2: these priest Holmes. Yeah, I thought was a controversial pick,

1895
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 2: although a terrific player.

1896
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 5: Great, great peak.

1897
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Christian McCaffrey and Derrick Henry.

1898
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't care for this list.

1899
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 2: Okay, the practice squad is Ladanian Tomlinson.

1900
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 5: I don't know how he's on the practice squad.

1901
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 2: I'd have Ladanian Tomlinson over any of these three. Yeah,

1902
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 2: not just one of them, any of the three.

1903
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't get that.

1904
01:32:58,200 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to leave the glasses on definitely.

1905
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 9: Uh So.

1906
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 2: What do you think I mean? I don't I'm not

1907
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 2: reading all of the explanations, but basically, the all all

1908
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 2: of the rundowns are all just about the stats. Yeah,

1909
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 2: like it's telling you King Henry gives the team Paula

1910
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 2: Rusher stats, a style aside as production earns him the spot.

1911
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 2: It's all about yards per carry. And you know he

1912
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 2: was four point nine, Adrian Peterson's four to six and

1913
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 2: LT was four to three. Like, so that's what you're

1914
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 2: you're basing this on, is like, you know, a half

1915
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 2: a yard per carry. So like I thought, out of

1916
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 2: a I did take a quick glance at the list

1917
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 2: and a little bit prepared here. This was the running

1918
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 2: backs was the one that I had the most issues

1919
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 2: with Priest Holmes. Good player, really good player. La Danian

1920
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 2: Thomas and and Adrian Peterson are the two best running

1921
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 2: backs I've ever seen. I agree. I told you I

1922
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 2: would have had Tomlinson over any of these three guys.

1923
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think LT was the more well rounded player, obviously,

1924
01:33:55,240 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 5: but just in terms of pure ball carrying, I don't

1925
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 5: think there's anybody better than Adrian Peterson in my generation,

1926
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 5: you know, like my you know, post two thousand, let's

1927
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 5: call it. Adrian Peterson was in the league of his

1928
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 5: own in terms of just purely tote in the rock,

1929
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 5: and I don't know how you could have anybody ahead

1930
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 5: of him.

1931
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 2: They basically punted on the fullback spots. It's Kylie Houstitch

1932
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 2: And they didn't even have a practice squad. Oh, they

1933
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,600
Speaker 2: just they said that his nine Pro Bowl selections are

1934
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 2: four more than Patrick Ricard and five more than Lorenzo O'Neil. Okay, well,

1935
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 2: Lorenzo neil was a great player, But that's all I needed,

1936
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 2: was like the amount of Pro Bowls, No, no one else.

1937
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 2: I assume Mike Alstott was like two problem much ninety

1938
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 2: probably to nineties centric yep, wide receivers.

1939
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 5: They didn't like this one either.

1940
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 2: How to argue with the first two though, Randy Moss,

1941
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 2: Calvin Johnson, yep, Julio Jones, Terrell Owens I have a

1942
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 2: little bit of a problem.

1943
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 5: With it's a lot of that's a lot of nineteen

1944
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 5: nineties doing some work.

1945
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison also a little bit nineties heavy, justin Jeff Everson,

1946
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 2: no issue there. Uh, Antonio Brown and Andre Johnson the

1947
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 2: practice squad guys.

1948
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 5: So I think Antonio Brown's got to be higher on

1949
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 5: this list. Personally, I would have him over Marvin Harrison.

1950
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 5: I'd probably have him at least over Marvin Harrison. But

1951
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,679
Speaker 5: Antonio Brown to me, because if you're if you're weighing

1952
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 5: peak as a big part of this, that Antonio Brown

1953
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 5: was the twenty ten's run by Antonio Brown is insane.

1954
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 5: Six years. I think it was six straight. Yeah, like

1955
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 5: just like led the league one hundred ten seasons, yeah,

1956
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 5: one thousand, you know, like everything. It's not like one

1957
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 5: hundred catches for like, you know, eleven hundred yards. He

1958
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 5: was like, you know, one hundred catches for like fifteen hundred.

1959
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 5: He had one of the most productive runs of anybody

1960
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 5: in that that four or five year period in Pittsburgh.

1961
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 2: So we'll move on to tight ends. Gronk obviously is

1962
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 2: the number one guy, Travis Kelcey and Tony Gonzalez or

1963
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 2: the other two in the practice squad is Antonio Gates. Yeah,

1964
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good practice squad.

1965
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a pretty good practice squad. That's a pretty

1966
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 5: good list. I think those three, those four really I am.

1967
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 2: A little bit partial to the Gates, but I have

1968
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 2: no problem with the way that they did this. And

1969
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 2: we'll I'm going to close out the offense and then

1970
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 2: we'll take a little bit of a break. The left

1971
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 2: tackles Joe Thomas and Trent Williams. No arguments with Walter Jones,

1972
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 2: and we use the Jordan Mylotta because it's the international

1973
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 2: player pathway and that gives you seventeen guys in your

1974
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 2: practice such they cheated, Yeah, so I'd have to go

1975
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 2: back and look. But like Jonathan Ogden, like was all

1976
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,680
Speaker 2: his damage done in the nineties, because Walter Jones was

1977
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 2: you know kind of yeah, like it looks at that

1978
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:51,719
Speaker 2: way in Orlando pace, right, Like Jordan Mylotta was better

1979
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 2: than those two guys.

1980
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 5: Jormat has had a nice run here, but I don't

1981
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 5: think that there's enough, Like I feel like there's probably better.

1982
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 5: Now I agree with the top like Joe Joe Thomas

1983
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,600
Speaker 5: and Trent Williams are the two best left tackles of

1984
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 5: the last.

1985
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 2: Williams is maybe the best offensive lineman. Yeah, I would

1986
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 2: probably have period, I'd probably have Tyron Smith ahead of Peak,

1987
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 2: you know, like Peak Tyron Smith, you know, had trouble

1988
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 2: staying healthy. Man like Fred Fred's like all excited love

1989
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 2: that guy.

1990
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 8: Uh.

1991
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 2: The guards were Alan Fanica and Steve Hutchinson again no

1992
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 2: no practice squad. In the center is Jason Kelsey.

1993
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 5: Yeah that's probably fair, you know guard. I mean obviously

1994
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:37,600
Speaker 5: I think Zach Martin's on there for left guard or

1995
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 5: right guard right.

1996
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 2: Guard Zach Zach Martin and Marshall Yonda with Jarry Evans.

1997
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 2: So the only guy that I.

1998
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 5: Would say that maybe is missing from the guards is

1999
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 5: Quentin Nelson, who has been day Quinton freaking awesome for

2000
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 5: like ten years. Like, you know, he's a really good player.

2001
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 5: But a lot of Fanica fans.

2002
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 2: The right tackles were Lange Johnson and Willie Anderson. Again

2003
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 2: no more so nowhere practice squad.

2004
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 5: They're at right tackle in my opinion, if you're gonna

2005
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 5: have my Lotta as an honorable mention at left tackle,

2006
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 5: how is Penny Sewell not in the conversation at right tackle?

2007
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 5: Like Penny Sewell has been doing it for just as

2008
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,640
Speaker 5: long at this point as my Lotta has and is

2009
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 5: easily the best right tackle in football at this point.

2010
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 5: So I would have put Penny Sewell on that list

2011
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 5: at right tackle, But I Lane Johnson's been the best.

2012
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 2: So that's the offense. I'm gonna go back to some

2013
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 2: emails because I want to, unlike Fred, I like to

2014
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 2: reward the people who take the time, especially when they

2015
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 2: suck up to us, which is what George is doing.

2016
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 2: George and Pennsylvania just wanted to send out an email

2017
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 2: saying I love watching the show. Fred and Paul are hilarious.

2018
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:51,759
Speaker 2: I love watching Catch twenty two with Evan and Alex.

2019
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 2: Thank you keep up the great work and love the content. Guys.

2020
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:58,480
Speaker 2: I have two questions. The first one is he's from Pennsylvania.

2021
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 2: He will be visiting jill At State next month for

2022
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 2: training camp. Wondering if players are going to visit fans

2023
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 2: to maybe meet and greet and sign some merch that's

2024
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 2: a guarantee. Every day of training camp. It's after practice

2025
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 2: you can get emails from it's kind of catches catch

2026
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:19,640
Speaker 2: can every day, but there's usually one position group that

2027
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 2: will sign specifically for fans also, so that can change

2028
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 2: varies from day to day, but you will be able

2029
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 2: to get autographs. I would say any training camp practice day.

2030
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 5: So actually a few weeks ago was that with my

2031
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 5: parents and my mom or my dad and know who

2032
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 5: found it, pulled out a photo of me as a

2033
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 5: child at Patriots training camp and when the players are signing.

2034
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:51,639
Speaker 5: And the one that I remember because my sister got

2035
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 5: an autograph from Brady at one of the training camps

2036
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:58,799
Speaker 5: and I think she fainted like she was legitimately fainting.

2037
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 5: But the one, the picture that they took that they

2038
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 5: showed me happened to be one head coach Mike Rabel

2039
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 5: in his playing days and little me just like with

2040
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 5: a big smile on his face.

2041
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 2: You have a picture of that, Yeah, you should. You

2042
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 2: should print that out and you should show that.

2043
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 5: To him and he we still have the his autograph

2044
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 5: too when when he signed and everything, I have totally

2045
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 5: forgot about it. I knew we had the Jersey sign.

2046
01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 2: But I to I know there was a there was

2047
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 2: pictures we used to have, you know, a day they

2048
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 2: would have a practice, you know, specifically for the employees, right,

2049
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of like the employee day that

2050
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 2: they have now, but the practice would sort of be

2051
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 2: more geared in the stadium as part of the program.

2052
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 2: And we were sitting in the front row, and you know,

2053
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 2: I got my My boys were really young then, and uh,

2054
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 2: Matt light grabbed my son out of my arms and

2055
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 2: just had him like on the fields, just holding on

2056
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 2: to him, and like that was one of those kind

2057
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 2: of deals. Now he's a junior in college. Yeah, because I'm.

2058
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 5: Old, don't cry. It's okay.

2059
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 2: So let's see his second question. This is the other

2060
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 2: part of the reason why I read this of it's

2061
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 2: because it's for us. It's more of a grab bag.

2062
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 2: Sure Celtics related question. Hope this is a short answer,

2063
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 2: so you guys don't get drilled for taking the Celtics

2064
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 2: for too long. How do you guys feel about the

2065
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:17,600
Speaker 2: Drew Holiday trade. I'm a little sad to see him go,

2066
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 2: but I am excited for the future with Simons and

2067
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 2: whoever the Celtics get in draft picks thoughts.

2068
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 5: I was very excited about the trade. Now, maybe my

2069
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 5: no preconceived notion of what they were going to be

2070
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 5: able to get was skewed by a lot of the

2071
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 5: coverage of the Celtics offseason, but I trust people that

2072
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 5: know more about it than me, and all the conversation

2073
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 5: about it was Paul that they were gonna basically have

2074
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 5: to salary dumb Christaph Porzingis and Drew Holidays. So the

2075
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 5: fact that they got Anthony Simon's back for him, and

2076
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 5: they actually got an asset and somebody that's averaged twenty

2077
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 5: points a game and clearly can create his own shot

2078
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 5: and is a really good offensive player and got to

2079
01:41:56,280 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 5: work on his defense, but someone that can get buckets.

2080
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 5: It's like that guy is a really good offensive player.

2081
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:04,639
Speaker 5: The fact that they got that in return for Drew

2082
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 5: Holiday actually was last night. I saw that right before

2083
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:09,560
Speaker 5: we went to bed, and I was pumped. I was like, yes, like,

2084
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 5: this is much better than just we just had to

2085
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 5: get rid of this guy and we're salary dumping Drew Holiday.

2086
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 5: So I was extremely excited that they were able to

2087
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 5: get Simon's back in return, and I would like to

2088
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 5: see him stay. I just think for what they're going

2089
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 5: to be next year, like, just let that guy go,

2090
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 5: go get his like, go average twenty a game and

2091
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 5: go take a bunch of shots. Like they need the offense,

2092
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:32,839
Speaker 5: they need the firepower without Tatum.

2093
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 2: So I thought it was a good return for an

2094
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 2: aging player. You got ninety years of experience. He's only

2095
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 2: twenty six and Drew was thirty five, so clearly nearing

2096
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 2: the end. I thought it was a great return. I

2097
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 2: don't know what the plan is, but I think it

2098
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 2: was a good, good value asset. And you know what,

2099
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 2: if you're going to include him in part of the

2100
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 2: next trade, that's going to enhance that package that you're

2101
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 2: going to be able to get back. So I like

2102
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 2: the move in as much as I like Holiday. We

2103
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 2: all know what the situation is.

2104
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 5: Significantly better player than I thought they would get back.

2105
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. One of the things we were talking

2106
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 2: about earlier of regrets, you know, things that we're worried

2107
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:18,639
Speaker 2: about the offensive line. Might there have been a guard

2108
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 2: that they could have got Patrick McCarry that brought up,

2109
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 2: and uh, yeah, I do think that he has some

2110
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,759
Speaker 2: versatility to play a number of different spots on the line.

2111
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 2: Hasn't really been, in my view, sort of a front

2112
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 2: line starting guy, but he's always been capable of starting

2113
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 2: for the Ravens, and I think he's a guy would

2114
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:41,600
Speaker 2: have made some sense. Yeah, sixth Man, you brought that

2115
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 2: into that thanks to you.

2116
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got it, the sixth man. That was what

2117
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:47,799
Speaker 5: he's been, you know, fill in a little bit at tackle,

2118
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:49,680
Speaker 5: fill in a little bit at guard when he's needed to.

2119
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 5: But is there a chance that he's a starting caliber

2120
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 5: player and another team? Yeah, I mean that was that

2121
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 5: was definitely one of those guys that that was who

2122
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 5: you were thinking of. I think when you said that

2123
01:43:59,000 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 5: earlier the shows.

2124
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you notice that Justin in Virginia. I want to

2125
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 2: make sure, unlike Fred, I don't want to wait till

2126
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 2: one fifty eight to get back to the hotline. So

2127
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 2: Justin in Virginia is next?

2128
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,120
Speaker 16: What's going on? Fellas? I was kind of listening to

2129
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 16: you guys while I was old, speaking of the thing

2130
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 16: you said where like you like put your son or

2131
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 16: Matt like like your.

2132
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:23,599
Speaker 2: Son out of his arms.

2133
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 16: The first time I ever called in it was you, Andy,

2134
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 16: Eric and Fred when I was thirteen years old. I

2135
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 16: am twenty eight now, and I'm about to be twenty

2136
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 16: nine in September.

2137
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:38,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm fifty seven, So what are you gonna do?

2138
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 16: Yeah, you're still Yeah. The question I have, young guys

2139
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 16: is like when it comes to Shamar's Stewart on the Bengals, Like,

2140
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 16: is it any more complex than just like the Bengals

2141
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 16: are just kind of like cheap like this historically been,

2142
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 16: and like the Cardinals are cheap like that.

2143
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 11: Like what's kind.

2144
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 8: Of going on there?

2145
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 2: You know, because it's like, I think it can be

2146
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 2: as simple as that.

2147
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're trying to uh break precedent from what I

2148
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 5: understand of the guaranteed money that every first round picks

2149
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 5: contract is fully guaranteed per the CBA, and they're trying

2150
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 5: to break precedent with that.

2151
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 2: And well I think it's when they get the guarantee

2152
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 2: and then you know, the injuries and all that stuff. Yeah,

2153
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 2: I think it's kind I think Justin's got it. I

2154
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 2: think I think the Bengals are just being.

2155
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 16: Cheap, all right, you got to take care.

2156
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:30,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's justin the whole.

2157
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 5: Draft pick wage skill thing is is interesting.

2158
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 2: You know.

2159
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 5: Travon Henderson, like you mentioned at the top of the show,

2160
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 5: is the one pick that's unsigned, and all this this

2161
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 5: stuff is is UH is historical precedent. And the Texans

2162
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 5: gave Jayden Higgins a fully guaranteed contract as a second

2163
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 5: round pick. He was the thirty fourth overall pick.

2164
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:49,680
Speaker 2: UH.

2165
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 5: And now there's thirty second round picks that still haven't

2166
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 5: signed their contracts across the league. So it's not just

2167
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 5: Travon Henderson because of that, it's because of Jaden Higgins.

2168
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 5: It's not his fault, but because the Texans gave him

2169
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 5: a fully guaranteed contracts. So now all the second round

2170
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 5: picks want a fully guaranteed contract, and so the Texans

2171
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 5: in a lot of ways kind of.

2172
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 2: Screw the rest. How do you feel about that? Just

2173
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 2: you know, from the outside, Like, I.

2174
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 5: I don't know, I always am I'm typically pro player

2175
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 5: with these.

2176
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 2: I'm almost always pro player, but this one I can

2177
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 2: understand the team side.

2178
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean these draft picks are really especially outside

2179
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 5: the first round or it's kind of a lottery ticket

2180
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:34,600
Speaker 5: whether or not you really work out. And so to

2181
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 5: be stuck on you know, with four years of team control.

2182
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 2: It's not a tremendous amount of money, but like, how

2183
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 2: would you feel right now? If you were the Patriots

2184
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:49,600
Speaker 2: with Jalen Polk right right, you know the guarantee. I know,

2185
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 2: again it's not going to make or break your cap situation,

2186
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 2: but I understand if they don't want to. I don't

2187
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 2: think there's sure things. And then even second rounders aren't

2188
01:46:57,920 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 2: sure things.

2189
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 5: No, And it's a sliding scale. So if everybody that

2190
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 5: was drafted in the thirties gets a guaranteed contract, like

2191
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 5: when does that stop? Like at what number draft slot

2192
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 5: does it stop? And now we go to partially and

2193
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 5: then it just can is a can to pick.

2194
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 2: The entire draft. If you get drafted, you're guaranteed a

2195
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, guaranteed contract, right. I mean, I don't know,

2196
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 2: it's tough. I do think that the wage scale has

2197
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:26,879
Speaker 2: been highly successful in eliminating what was really a problem

2198
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 2: agreed in terms of a the astronomical salaries that the

2199
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 2: rookies were getting and b the amount of holdouts and

2200
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 2: problems that you had and you know, lost time that

2201
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 2: you can never get back on. Benjamin Watson, Yeah, was

2202
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 2: part of that, you know, once upon a time. Uh here, Mark,

2203
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 2: and Connecticut is next up on the PU hotline.

2204
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 17: Mark, Hey, Paul, good to hear you running.

2205
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 2: The show, brother, Yeah, I'm doing my best.

2206
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:55,719
Speaker 8: Evan.

2207
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 17: You actually took the question right out of my mouth.

2208
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 17: What I was wondering is what is the deal with

2209
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 17: Trayvon Henderson?

2210
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 16: Why he's the only one that is not signed?

2211
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 4: Now?

2212
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 17: I know first round picks are guaranteed, but is that

2213
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 17: really the only hold up now with the second rounders?

2214
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:14,719
Speaker 17: Now is that you can get guaranteed money?

2215
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's it's a combination of guaranteed money and

2216
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 5: then as Paul said, like payout right scheduling of when

2217
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 5: the money you actually are going to get the money.

2218
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 5: You're going to get the money upfront or is it

2219
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 5: going to get paid out over the course of the

2220
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 5: season in like a pro rated amount. So like you

2221
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 5: have to decide those types of things. Those are the

2222
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 5: negotiation powers you have. But I will say, even though.

2223
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 17: Anyone where you picked though, Evan, is that like the

2224
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 17: amount that like is allocated for is what I would say,

2225
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 17: am I you know?

2226
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:46,600
Speaker 5: So what I would say is the total value of

2227
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 5: the contract is set right, That's that's a sign based

2228
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 5: off your draft slot type of thing. But yep, the

2229
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:57,600
Speaker 5: structure of the contract and of the payment schedule is

2230
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 5: a negotiated element. You can negotiate those types of things.

2231
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:06,640
Speaker 5: So obviously the player is going to want as much

2232
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 5: guaranteed money up front and the team is going to

2233
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 5: want to pay it for their security over the life

2234
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 5: of the contract. And so when exactly that player gets

2235
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 5: those checks is what gets negotiated this time of year. Now,

2236
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 5: like I said, just now, thirty out of the thirty

2237
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 5: two second round picks still have not signed a contract.

2238
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 5: So this is not just Traveon Henderson. This is a

2239
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 5: league wide hold up right now on second round picks. Absolutely,

2240
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:36,600
Speaker 5: So it is not in that sense like it's not

2241
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:40,719
Speaker 5: Trayvon Henderson's playing hardball, it's all of them are playing hardball.

2242
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 2: Thanks Mark, Let's see dear pp Laser. Oh, so evidently

2243
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 2: that is the name of the show. He's a little behind.

2244
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 2: Heard us talking about cookout versus barbecue. Interesting fact, when

2245
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 2: he moved to Savannah from New Hampshire, he had a

2246
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 2: barbecue at his place and people were really disappointed, but

2247
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 2: because it was just hot dogs and birders. If you

2248
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 2: say you're having a barbecue in the South, it implies

2249
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:07,360
Speaker 2: that there's going to be porks such as ribs and

2250
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 2: so on. And then then they say, if you don't

2251
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 2: have that, it's just a cookout. And I learned that

2252
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 2: the hard way.

2253
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 5: That that's I love that distinction. I think that is

2254
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 5: a great way of putting it. Now, we don't really

2255
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 5: do that as much up here, I would say, but

2256
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 5: there's a difference between like a traditional Fourth of July

2257
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 5: cookout and like we're smoking. We got the smoker out

2258
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:30,680
Speaker 5: and we got the ribs going and all that kind

2259
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 5: of stuff. It's two very different types of food. So

2260
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:34,639
Speaker 5: I'm with the people in the South.

2261
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 7: On this one.

2262
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 5: I like the distinction cookout barbecue.

2263
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 2: Austin in Oklahoma has been hearing me, in particular, talk

2264
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:45,679
Speaker 2: about just how athletic Gonzales is and how ridiculously easy

2265
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 2: he makes catching the ball look he wants kind of

2266
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 2: not seriously, you know, making him the x.

2267
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:56,560
Speaker 16: I.

2268
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:01,639
Speaker 2: He's not really being serious and no, now defense I brought.

2269
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 5: This up before and people are like, it's not the same.

2270
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 5: Obviously it's not the same. I've seen him do it

2271
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 5: in practice, just like when the dbs are like kind

2272
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:12,560
Speaker 5: of going through the motions with they'll have like the

2273
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 5: defensive back be the receiver for his teammate and it's

2274
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 5: not serious it's not a receiver drill. No one's saying that.

2275
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 5: But I've seen Gonzo do some do some fun things

2276
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 5: with one handed catches and stuff like that, and those

2277
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 5: types of drills, and he definitely has a natural ability

2278
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 5: to catch a football. There's no doubt about that. I

2279
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 5: don't know if you can run routes, but you can

2280
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 5: definitely do that.

2281
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 2: Let's see John's concern. John in Georgia, he's concerned about

2282
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 2: Drake May's jump from year one. Have you seen him

2283
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 2: nearly devoting himself? Have you seen him devoting himself to

2284
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 2: get ready for year two, working out more, adding muscle,

2285
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 2: hangout with teammates outside of Foxborough. My memory says other

2286
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league have done that, and it gets

2287
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 2: talked about, but evidence so far doesn't really support that.

2288
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 2: Should I be worried?

2289
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 5: Oh no, I mean Drake May has been here the

2290
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 5: entire spring.

2291
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,559
Speaker 2: He was really here.

2292
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 5: I I you know, we had heard that he was

2293
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:13,759
Speaker 5: here even in like going all the way back to February,

2294
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 5: you know, right after the his his season ended, and

2295
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 5: then you know, took a little bit of a break,

2296
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 5: but then came right back. So I think Drake May's

2297
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:22,800
Speaker 5: doing what Drake May is supposed to be doing, and

2298
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 5: like Seana Vancouver, say congratulations to him on getting married.

2299
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:28,880
Speaker 5: It's a very smart time to get married. Shohn's right

2300
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 5: about that, because then like even your anniversary falls, you know,

2301
01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 5: in a dead time of the NFL calendar, you might know. Yeah,

2302
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:36,680
Speaker 5: I might know a thing or two about that, So

2303
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 5: that that's smart. Not unlike you, though, Paul, because you

2304
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:40,360
Speaker 5: got married.

2305
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 2: I got married in the middle of the playoffs. Yeah,

2306
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 2: Frits still watching the games. Yeah, Patriots were not in

2307
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 2: said playoffs. However, it was two thousand and two. The

2308
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:50,080
Speaker 2: Patriots did not make.

2309
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 5: The play Okay, all right, we got lucky there.

2310
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 2: It's two thousand and two season. I got married in

2311
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 2: January of two thousand and three. Yeah, let's see. Oh,

2312
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 2: that's not night Boston cream. That's not nice. Let's be honest.

2313
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 2: Is Fred not there today because he's finally getting gastric

2314
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 2: bypass surgery. That's that's just that's just poor to me.

2315
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 2: Dang shots fire, let's see. Oh Claire, Hello Claire chimes

2316
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 2: in from high to Ppe and easy and hello marine.

2317
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:26,679
Speaker 13: Hello Claire.

2318
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 2: Let me make you grown and ask about the tight ends.

2319
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 2: What's your super early guess on how many tight ends

2320
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 2: they go with including the practice squad. Yeah, it's a

2321
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 2: good question.

2322
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 5: It's an interesting one. We talked a little bit about

2323
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 5: it on Catch twenty two last week about do they

2324
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 5: carry three traditional tight ends on the roster? Do they

2325
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 5: carry two in a full back? Do they carry three

2326
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 5: in a full back? Do they need to carry that

2327
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:54,679
Speaker 5: third tight end if they're going to carry brock Lampy

2328
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 5: or carry a full back. I'm right now at two

2329
01:53:57,680 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 5: in a full back because I don't feel though Bell

2330
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 5: west Over the pre g Scott, I don't know if

2331
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 5: those guys have earned it yet to I think they're

2332
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 5: gonna have to really, like outright earn a roster spot

2333
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 5: to be carried as a third tight end, and then

2334
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:15,400
Speaker 5: you have that practice squad flexibility. So my guess is,

2335
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 5: right now, you have two tight ends on the fifty

2336
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 5: three plus the full back, and then you have two

2337
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:22,640
Speaker 5: of those guys signed back with the practice squad, And

2338
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 5: if there's injuries or there's game plans that you want

2339
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:26,840
Speaker 5: to have two tights and you call guys up and

2340
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:27,560
Speaker 5: things like that.

2341
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:29,599
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna let Joe and Vermont have the last

2342
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 2: word for the emails because I do want to get

2343
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 2: to the defense. Oh yeah, real quick before we wrap

2344
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 2: it up. He thinks the intro to Joker in the

2345
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 2: Thief would be an awesome walkout song.

2346
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 5: It's a good song.

2347
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 2: And he was at the game against the Ravens when

2348
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 2: Edelman threw the TD pass. Sure, so he wants to

2349
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 2: know who in the team not named Drake May would

2350
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 2: be most expected to throw a touchdown pass.

2351
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good question. I've seen Kendrick Burn do it.

2352
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 5: So maybe Kendrick Bourne. I believe you threw a pass

2353
01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one, if I'm not mistaken. So maybe

2354
01:54:59,360 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 5: Kendrick Borne.

2355
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 2: I think you're right about that. Yeah, Hunter, Henry, Hunter, Henry.

2356
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 2: That's outside the box, sneaky athletic.

2357
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go.

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01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 15: Uh.

2359
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:16,560
Speaker 2: Okay, So defensively on this ESPN PFF quarter century team,

2360
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 2: DeMarcus Ware and Jared Allen along with Miles Garrett and

2361
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 2: Julius Peppers.

2362
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 5: Okay, so those are ends, like do they have no?

2363
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:27,919
Speaker 2: These are edge these are edge rushers?

2364
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 5: Okay, So like no, Von Miller didn't get a no.

2365
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 2: So the practice squad is t J. Watt and Michael Strahan. Huh,

2366
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 2: I would make the argument absolutely for von Miller, that

2367
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 2: von Miller belongs.

2368
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 5: Yeah here.

2369
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 2: Now, I think Jared Allen would be the first one

2370
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 2: that I would look at because I think Pepper's, Garrett

2371
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 2: and Ware. Yeah, they're all better players than von Miller,

2372
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 2: better career.

2373
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 5: I wasn't a big Maybe I just didn't see enough

2374
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 5: of him where he played. But I wasn't a big

2375
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 5: Jared Allen guy.

2376
01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 2: And I know he's been. He's in the Hall of Fame,

2377
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 2: I know, and I'm not either. Maybe maybe we both

2378
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 2: missed the boat on that.

2379
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:03,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like von Miller, to me, like twenty fifteen

2380
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 5: playoff run for von Miller, he was like basically had

2381
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 5: like a quarterback like impact on the game.

2382
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2383
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 5: With the Broncos.

2384
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I you know they have TJ. Watt and

2385
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 2: Michael Strahan as the practice squad. Again, von Miller to

2386
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 2: me better than both.

2387
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 5: But Dwight Freeneye, no love Dwight Freanie, Yeah, good player.

2388
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 2: Defensive tackles Aaron Donald, Kaleis Campbell, Chris Jones, hard to argue.

2389
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think any of us has

2390
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 2: any argument there. Practice squad is Kevin Williams and Cameron Hayward.

2391
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 2: Here's where I have an issue.

2392
01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 5: Cam Hayward fan.

2393
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:42,360
Speaker 2: Better than Richard Seymour.

2394
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 5: That's fair, that's fair.

2395
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to go all you know, happy Homer

2396
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:51,800
Speaker 2: on you, but Richard Seymour is in the Hall of Fame.

2397
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 5: No, yeah, yeah, Williams probably probably better than Williams.

2398
01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 2: So I had an issue with that one nose tackle

2399
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:04,200
Speaker 2: Vince will Ford, big Vince. So I think that he definitely,

2400
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 2: you know, the only one they have listed. They don't

2401
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 2: even have a practice squad. It's Casey Hampton. I think

2402
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 2: he benefits. Like to me, Kevin Williams is more of that. Yeah,

2403
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,600
Speaker 2: they had Pat Williams and Kevin Williams there for those years.

2404
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 2: Is the two defensive tackles in Minnesota. This is kind

2405
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:24,640
Speaker 2: of interesting. This is one of those it's cheap, way

2406
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 2: out versatile defensive lineman JJ Watt and I heard by

2407
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 2: Buddy Andy talking about this yesterday.

2408
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 5: It's an edge guy.

2409
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 2: I have no problem with that because he belongs on

2410
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 2: the team somewhere. But couldn't you just put him on

2411
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 2: a position.

2412
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 5: Like did we really need to have Jared Allen? I'm sorry,

2413
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 5: I don't need to be keep picking on Jared Allen.

2414
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 2: Maybe we missed it. I don't know.

2415
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe I gotta go to NFL Films and watch it.

2416
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:50,520
Speaker 2: So I have some problems with the linebackers too. They

2417
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 2: picked five starts off. Okay, ray Lewis, have no issue there.

2418
01:57:56,000 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner, I'm probably okay with that one too. Needs

2419
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 2: to do a little more research. Brian or Lacker Levante,

2420
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 2: David Luke Keikley. So Luke Keikley I have is better

2421
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 2: than both those guys, David and I don't think David

2422
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 2: is as good as another buck. Derek Brooks, who was

2423
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 2: listed as a practice squad guy. Now I'd have to

2424
01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:22,560
Speaker 2: go back and look specifically the years, but I mean

2425
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 2: he was a huge part of the O two Super

2426
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:26,320
Speaker 2: Bowl team, so he had to have a lot of

2427
01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 2: success in the Yeah, I would think maybe too much

2428
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:29,200
Speaker 2: of his.

2429
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 5: In THETS late nineties. Derek Brooks to me, good player,

2430
01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:35,240
Speaker 5: really good.

2431
01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 2: He's the second best player on this list behind ray Lewis.

2432
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 5: I know he didn't have the full Keikley retired pretty early,

2433
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:46,960
Speaker 5: but I would say Keithley's probably up there for me

2434
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 5: other than ray Lewis.

2435
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 2: Cornerbacks Drell Reeves and champ Bailey along with Rondez Barber

2436
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 2: and Richard Sherman.

2437
01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:56,760
Speaker 5: So I have an issue with Sherman.

2438
01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, and Patrick Peterson, I'm not.

2439
01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:01,440
Speaker 5: I'm not a in the Sherman. You know, dude, do

2440
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 5: your Seattle three corner on your own time, you know, Like,

2441
01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:07,800
Speaker 5: I give me somebody that that actually shadowed guys. And

2442
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 5: I'm not a big Richard Sherman guy, but fine. I

2443
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 5: mean champ Bailey to.

2444
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:18,440
Speaker 2: Me, is who's our buddy in in Virginia? Emery Emory

2445
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:20,720
Speaker 2: Emory in Virginia. I think he had This is where

2446
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 2: you have a beef. Where's the Sante Samuel? Like the

2447
01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:26,240
Speaker 2: practice squad is Jalen Ramsey. Yeah, okay, so these are

2448
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 2: all good players, yep. Okay, Santa Samuel is as good

2449
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:30,160
Speaker 2: as these guys.

2450
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:31,960
Speaker 5: Tylaw is as good as these guys.

2451
01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:35,320
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say that high Law too much nineties.

2452
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:38,120
Speaker 2: Sure Santa Samuel doesn't have that, you don't have that

2453
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:39,000
Speaker 2: fallback for him?

2454
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I I understand. Uh, you know obviously Revas and

2455
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 5: uh champ Bailey, I I've had like with all this,

2456
01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:50,160
Speaker 5: like he got a lot of comps with Travis Hunter

2457
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:52,160
Speaker 5: and stuff. I and I you know, you do a

2458
01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:55,040
Speaker 5: little bit more digging on how good Champ Bailey really was.

2459
01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:56,920
Speaker 5: I mean, Champ Bailey was the hell of a player.

2460
01:59:57,000 --> 01:59:58,600
Speaker 5: So I can't argue with those two. But the other

2461
01:59:58,640 --> 01:59:59,879
Speaker 5: ones I think are debatable.

2462
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would say Samuel deserves to be in

2463
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:08,400
Speaker 2: that conversation. At the very least, safety's Ed Reid, who's

2464
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 2: one of the greatest safety who's ever played, Troy Polamalu,

2465
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 2: Brian Dawkins, Earl Thomas.

2466
02:00:14,400 --> 02:00:18,240
Speaker 5: So here's another one like Brian Dawkins, a little overrated

2467
02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 5: to me, Hall of Famer, good player. I'm not a

2468
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 5: big Brian Dawkins guy.

2469
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 2: I don't remember Brian Dawkins spending a couple of years

2470
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:27,320
Speaker 2: with Denver at the end of his career.

2471
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:31,280
Speaker 5: He's a really good player, like I'm not. But all

2472
02:00:31,400 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 5: Century teams, all Century team, I don't know if I

2473
02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:34,640
Speaker 5: had had Brian Dawkins on that.

2474
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, five years in the nineties, ninety six, seven, eight,

2475
02:00:37,960 --> 02:00:41,360
Speaker 2: well four years in the nineties, Yeah, I don't know.

2476
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:45,560
Speaker 2: And I think Cam Chancellor sort of gets some short

2477
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 2: shift here. Charles Woodson is the practice squad player, so

2478
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:51,960
Speaker 2: that that sort of does it for the defense. Just

2479
02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:55,280
Speaker 2: wrapping it up here. The kicker is Justin Tucker. The

2480
02:00:55,360 --> 02:00:58,960
Speaker 2: punter is Shane Leckler, The return guy is Devin Hester.

2481
02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 2: The cover guy, no surprise, is our buddy Matthew Slater.

2482
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 2: The long snapper is Morgan Cox.

2483
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 5: Joe Cardona snubbed.

2484
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:09,520
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think for? Do you already see

2485
02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:11,839
Speaker 2: all this? So you know the coaching staff now, obviously

2486
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 2: Belichick is the coach. The head coach, I think that's

2487
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:18,160
Speaker 2: a no brainer. Offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, such a loser.

2488
02:01:19,120 --> 02:01:22,520
Speaker 2: Defensive coordinator is Wade Phillips. Special teams guy Dave Tobb,

2489
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:24,400
Speaker 2: the longtime Kansas City chiefs.

2490
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:27,360
Speaker 5: I didn't actually see that, but it should be Kyle Shannon.

2491
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:29,040
Speaker 5: So I'm glad it's Kyle Shanner.

2492
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:30,920
Speaker 2: You kind of probably knew that. But by the way

2493
02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 2: I was setting it up too, that one went really fast,

2494
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:36,600
Speaker 2: And I got to be honest with you, I did

2495
02:01:36,680 --> 02:01:38,640
Speaker 2: not expect it to go fast because I thought that

2496
02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:40,560
Speaker 2: Evan and I would be dragging with not a lot

2497
02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:44,560
Speaker 2: of news to talk about. The weather is beautiful. I

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Speaker 2: didn't really feel like there'd be a lot of people online,

2499
02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:49,240
Speaker 2: you know, taking part. But I want to thank everyone

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02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 2: who spent some time with us, and that will not

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Speaker 2: be the last time you hear from us this week.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back on Thursday. I think Deuce will be back,

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Speaker 2: I believe, So I don't think Fred will be back

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02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:03,200
Speaker 2: when we have a Catch twenty two Extravaganta.

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Speaker 5: Yes, catching too tomorrow and then Pp and the duston

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Speaker 5: Lazaar on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: All right, so we'll make my host on Thursday so

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Speaker 2: I can get back to my tom foolery, which is

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Speaker 2: what I do best. I want to again thank everyone

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Speaker 2: for helping out today, because it's not easy to do

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Speaker 2: a show when you're not used to hosting, and you

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Speaker 2: guys made it easy. So we'll talk to you on Thursday.

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