1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: I'm excited today because we have Ashley Hayak with us. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: She is the executive director of America First Works and 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,079 Speaker 2: a former twenty twenty Trump campaign coalitions director. But you 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: might not even know what America First Works is because 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: it was working so hard for you with so many 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: different things. And that's why I wanted to bring Ashley 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: on today so that you could kind of brag on 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: what your organization has done. 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: We have a huge win. 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: We're all super excited and people are like, how did 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: it happen? And you know that, So welcome to the podcast. 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for having me. And I think it's 14 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: incredible because we heard from the liberal media for months 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: that Trump had no ground game, Trump had no coalition, 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 3: Trump had nothing, and really we kept our head down 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: and it wasn't just you know, America First Works, but 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 3: it was Tea Party, Patriots, it was you know, amac Action, 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: it was you, Tutor, it was everybody. There was a 20 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: group of us almost one hundred different organizations that were 21 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: working every single day, Hilaris with Morgan Artigas like every 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: single day just trying to make sure that we get 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: America forst messiging out, knocking on doors, sending text messages 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: into the battleground states and it paid off. And you know, 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: the greatest part is I think this is the greatest 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: coalition we've ever seen. And I think back to being 27 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: at Madison Square Garden about a week before the election 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: and being backstage with Michael Harris, who's one of the 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: founders of Death Row Records who endorsed President Trump. And 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 3: I'm standing there with Michael and I'm looking there's Tulci 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: Gabbard in RFK and doctor phil and Hulk Cogan and 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: Elise Staphonic and all of these in Tiffany Justice from 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: Mom's Liberty. There's all these amazing people and it's such 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: a diverse coalition. But it's not what the left ever 35 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: wants to talk about. They just want to call us all, 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: you know, sexist and racist. 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: Well, and it's not the coalition that they had. They 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: had a bunch of celebrities. I think they thought that 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: they were going to come out with these celebrities and 40 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: kind of pooh pooh the fact that Tulsea Gabbard was there, 41 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: even though she has not only experience as a congresswoman 42 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: and running for president, herself, but also military experience. Then 43 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: you have RFK, who is a Kennedy that comes over 44 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: to our side. These are all political figures. These are 45 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: all people with government experience. They had people that don't 46 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: even have working class experience. They don't have middle class experience. 47 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: They don't understand the American people at all. That backfired. 48 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: But it wasn't just that. I mean, I think people 49 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: look at this and they're like, oh, there was like 50 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: this great magic of Trump going up against these celebrities 51 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: and this fake campaign. 52 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: But it was a lot of work behind the scenes. 53 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: So how did that happen? 54 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: Because there was a lot of discussion of no ground game, 55 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 2: but ground game sprung up over time, and I think 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: at first there was some concern that they have a 57 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: much stronger ground game. We as Republicans have not historically 58 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: had this and that's why you did this, correct, That's right. 59 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: So we had a meeting on April third where we 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: pulled in all of the organizations and we wanted to 61 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: get a sense of who was going to do what where. 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: And this was around the time that the FEC, the 63 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: Federal Elections Commission, released a memo or a decision. I 64 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: guess it was more of an interpretation that now door 65 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: to door canvassing you can work with federal campaigns on 66 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: It was not part of elections communications. So we just 67 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: wanted to get a very clear sense what is American 68 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: Principles project, What is Terry Shilling's group going to do? 69 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: You know, what is Moms for Liberty and Moms for 70 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 3: America going to do? What voters they are they going 71 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: to contact? And who's going to physically be on the 72 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: grounds And so what we learned is that a lot 73 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: of groups they don't necessarily have a ground infrastructure, which 74 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: is fine. It was never really the expectation of outside 75 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: groups to have that role, but it was really an 76 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: opportunity for us to say, like, Okay, this is something 77 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: where we could be an added value to the conservative movement. 78 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: And it was helpful because a lot of groups were 79 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: doing the digital ads or doing text messaging. It kind 80 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: of laid the groundwork for us to send our door 81 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: knockers to the doors and have those conversations with people. 82 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: So starting in June was when we started putting teams 83 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: on the GRI in the target states to do canvassing 84 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: in specific counties that we knew could ultimately determine the 85 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: future of the country. 86 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: And that was called Project nineteen. 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: So explain that because I think a lot of people 88 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: hear that and they're like, oh, this is another one 89 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: of those crazy things. But it was nineteen counties, and 90 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: then I think some people step back from that and go, 91 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: wait a minute, how do you win the presidency with 92 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: nineteen counties? 93 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very We try to be very intentional. 94 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: We're a three year old organization and so going from 95 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: a relatively unknown group and trying to raise funds for 96 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: this door knocking, door canvasing, can be expensive, so we 97 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: knew we had to be very intentional. Bucks County, Pennsylvania, 98 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: is a Bellweather county. They say where Bucks County goes, 99 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 3: the rest of the state goes, So we knew we 100 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: needed to have an infrastructure there. We also knew in 101 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: Delaware County, in Montgomery County and Chester County there were 102 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: really key counties where there's density and you can run 103 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: up the school and we can you really successful and 104 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: it would also help the rest of the states. Same 105 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: with Alleghen County, which is where Pittsburgh is having teams there. 106 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: In Arizona, we focused on Maricopa County so each of 107 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: those counties were, you know, where we wanted to make 108 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: sure that we had a very strong presence, and we 109 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: also went to places that were really a little unconventional. 110 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: So for example, we had a team in Wayne County, 111 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: specifically Dearborn, Deerborn Deerborn Heights in Hamtrak. They were twenty 112 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: air of American young men who were really upset with 113 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: how the direction of the country was going. They were 114 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: mad that everything costs a lot more money. They were 115 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: upset with all of the transgender agenda being pushed in 116 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: the schools. That was a big issue in Dearborn and 117 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: with the books and everything in the schools, and it 118 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: was against their values. And so those boys, i mean 119 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: some of them knocked ten eleven, twelve thousand doors easily 120 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: between July and election Day. And that's I think. Also 121 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: the fact that we started so early was just critical. 122 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: A lot of times conservative organizations wait until after Labor 123 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: Day to start doing their ground game. The only perception 124 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: to that that I've seen has been SBA list and 125 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: so building a permanent infrastructure where when a campaign is over, 126 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: it doesn't it's not just revolving around one person. This 127 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: can live in perpetuity, and we can continue to do 128 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: that and continue to build relationships in these communities. We 129 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 3: started with nineteen counties. By the end of it, we 130 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: had forty seven counties that we were canvassing in. 131 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 2: Wow. So I find it interesting when you talk about 132 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: Hamtramck here in the in Michigan. We we went there, 133 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: we talked to the folks there, and what I think 134 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 2: is interesting, and I think it's. 135 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: Interesting for the entire country. 136 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: And maybe I'm giving something away to the Democrats, but 137 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: I've seen I've watched these sad sack Democrats go on 138 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: TV every day this week and be like. 139 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: How could the country be so racist? How could the 140 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: country be so bad? 141 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: And instead of saying how can we come together, how 142 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: can we find our people and find out like what 143 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: are we missing? What is what messaging do we have wrong? 144 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: Like how can we shame them into coming back? And 145 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: how can we punish them? And I think that's kind 146 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: of the difference that people are now seeing between the 147 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: Republicans and the Democrats. The Republicans aren't the party of punishing. 148 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: I mean, look at what Donald Trump went through. He 149 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: was viciously punished by the Democrats. But it's not just 150 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. And that's what I don't think a lot 151 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: of people have realized, is that this goes beyond just 152 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: punishing the highest levels. Because the mayor of ham tramick 153 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: I was talking to him and he's like, you know, 154 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: we came out for the first time in twenty two 155 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: and supported your campaign here in Michigan, and then we 156 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: realized the Republicans were really on our side. We're conservatives, 157 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: you know, and we don't like that agenda. So you 158 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: probably those of you listening, you've probably heard the story 159 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: about the Muslim mayor in Michigan who decided to ban 160 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: flags on city buildings. You could only have the city, 161 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: the state, or the US flag on city buildings, which 162 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: obviously also means your schools. And the Democrats were very 163 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: mad about it. And he said, do you know that 164 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: for the decades that we have lived here in Michigan 165 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: and been Democrats, the Republicans have had control of the House, 166 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: in the State House, in the state Senate, and they 167 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: have never punished us. But the minute the Democrats got control, 168 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: they pulled our funding. And we know it was because 169 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: of that decision, and that was a punishment. And I 170 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: think the Democrats are going to continue to do that. 171 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: I think you're exactly right. You know, our messaging at 172 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: the door was this is what America first policies look like. 173 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: We want you to have more money in your pocket, 174 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: we want you to have a prosperous life. We want 175 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: you to be able to pursue the American dream. You know, 176 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: we should be putting America first, not foreign countries. We 177 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: should have safe communities and safe boarders. It's really simple. 178 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: I mean one of our doorhanngers that we had was 179 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: in the shape of California and it said, don't let 180 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, California are America. And that resonated so well 181 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: with so many people. And you see, especially after you know, 182 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, when the borders were opened up, 183 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: when there was defending the police department, people felt unsafe 184 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: and people our country has not been prioritizing the American people. 185 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: I think there's no secret sauce. It's just that the 186 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: left once cannot get out of their own way when 187 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: it comes to wanting more power and control, and they 188 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: don't even recognize that they are now the party of 189 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: the corporate elite. 190 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 2: Well, and I think putting in America First doesn't necessarily 191 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: mean not being involved in the world. It means peace 192 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: and that was what resonated so much. I mean when 193 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: you look at some of these communities that came over 194 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: for the first time, and I would say in Michigan 195 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: we had that benefit of having the Arab community come 196 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: over for the first time really in a presidential election 197 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: in a big way. 198 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because not only did he win the. 199 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: Arab community, but he brought a lot of the Jewish 200 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: community over to it. It wasn't because he wanted war. 201 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: It was because he wants peace. And people are like, oh, 202 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: what a novel concept. When someone comes and talks about 203 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: they actually get votes. So I think that the messaging 204 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: has just changed. But I think it's also about no 205 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: longer being a politician, being a human going and talking 206 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 2: to them. This is the first time Donald Trump had 207 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: been there. But also you're sending people there. So tell 208 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: us a little bit more about how America First works, 209 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: moves forward, goes for like what is the next step? 210 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: Because what I'm hearing on the ground here and I 211 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: think that this is what everybody's saying, Donald Trump is 212 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: an anomaly. 213 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: This guy is a machine. 214 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: He's something different than we're ever going to see, something 215 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: different than we ever have seen, something different than we 216 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: will ever see. And that has to have some sort 217 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: of coattails. And that has to be that folks like 218 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: you at America First Works have to create those coattails. 219 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: So what happens going forward in twenty six You're going 220 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: to see some You're going to. 221 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,239 Speaker 1: See congressional races. 222 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how many Senate races we have, but 223 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: you're going to see state races. 224 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: Do you still work in those? What happens? 225 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: So there's a couple of things. When we first were 226 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: going into the communities, we partnered with different organizations to 227 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 3: do community events or town halls, so there was a 228 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: framing and local media piece around the policies. First and foremost, 229 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: I think one of the things as conservatives we have 230 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 3: a little bit failed to do is not talk about 231 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: those solutions. And that was you know, Kamala Harris's biggest 232 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: downfall was she kept talking about joy and vibes, but 233 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: she never said how is she going to fix the 234 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: economy or get more jobs or stop the crime, et cetera. 235 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: So because she had no solution, no one bought into 236 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: her vision, whereas on our side, on the conservative side, 237 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 3: we have solutions. We have a lot of solutions. And 238 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: so that was the first when we visited people three times. 239 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: The first two times we talked about what issues are 240 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: most important to you, and we would follow up educating 241 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: them and advancing those policies. It wasn't until the third 242 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: visit did we start talking about the politics, which I 243 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: think is really important moving forward. We have to remember 244 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: that the first one hundred days of the new administration 245 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: are going to be absolutely critical, and we also know 246 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: that the establishment media is not going to be truthful 247 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: about the policies and what this president is going to do. 248 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: So we believe we have an obligation to continue the 249 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: relationships with the people in these communities and share with them. Okay, 250 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: you said when we visited your home that you care 251 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: about the border. Here's what this president is doing on 252 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: the border today. 253 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: And let's just do have that record of what each door, 254 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: what the conversations were at each door exactly. 255 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: We had a survey that was completed, and then we 256 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: also did text messaging just based on policies. So now 257 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: we know what voters care about and we can deliver 258 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: those policies to people directly, and they're not getting misinformation 259 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: from the establishment media. So it's really I like to 260 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: look at this as business. I think if politics will 261 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: run more like business, we'd be a lot more efficient. 262 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: So there are customers, we know what they want, how 263 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: do we serve them, how do we provide good customer service? 264 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: And then how do you keep that customer? How do 265 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 3: you retain that customer and that low propencity voter. That 266 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: was what we really focused on is expanding that section. 267 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: So how do we keep them engaged and informed on 268 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: what's happening. And I think that that will continue to 269 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 3: help us what in those mittrum elections and in the 270 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 3: first hundred days even more. 271 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: Coming up with Ashley Hayak after this, but first let 272 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: me tell you a little bit about Patriot Mobile. Americans 273 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: are tired and frustrated by a stalling economy, inflation, endless wars, 274 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: and the relentless assault on our values. But thankfully there's 275 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 2: companies like Patriot Mobile that still believe in America and 276 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: our constitution. 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We've got more right after this. 295 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: Like what is the next election that you will continue 296 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: to be involved in? Will you do any work in 297 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: twenty six or are you looking at another presidential I. 298 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: Think the FEC races or the FEC opinion was a 299 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: game changer for five to' one c fours because it 300 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: gave us a lot of freedom. So I think on 301 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: the House side and the Senate side would be, you know, 302 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: will definitely be involved in twenty twenty six, but I 303 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: think you have to aret laying that groundwork in twenty 304 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: twenty three. So that was I'm sorry, twenty twenty five. 305 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: That was what we did in twenty twenty three was 306 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: we started going into communities and looking at election integrity issues, 307 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: looking at policy issues, having conversations to understand those communities first. 308 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: So then when it was election time, we're not just saying, hey, 309 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: we're an outside group that hasn't been in your community. 310 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: We're going to tell you what you think. We're actually 311 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: continuing to have conversations. 312 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: And I think that's that's been the concern when some 313 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: of these midterm races come, like there's not a group 314 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: that's coming in, there's no ground game moving. 315 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: Because there's no group that does this. 316 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: But like you said, the Democrats have done this historically 317 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: very well. But I think I wouldn't say historically, I mean, 318 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: let me let me couch that by saying I think 319 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: after twenty sixteen they were so shocked that they ended 320 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: up saying okay, We're going to put in all of 321 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: these different organizations that are going to do exactly what 322 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: your group is doing. 323 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: And then in the. 324 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: Meantime, they they kept those those groups active. So my 325 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: question to you is is that going to do the 326 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: Republicans understand that there is something special in Donald Trump 327 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: and that this has to be really reinforced. 328 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: This has to become bigger. 329 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: I believe so, I really really believe so. And I 330 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: think that was also what Elon Musk said when he 331 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: had the America Pack. When he launched that, he said, 332 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: this is not just about one person, this is about 333 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: growing this movement. So I think between the America Pack, 334 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: America First Works, and other organizations, I mean there's a 335 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: lot of really special organizations. For example, Hunter Nation. You 336 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: know Hunter Nation their messaging targets specifically, you know gun owners, Hunters, 337 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: and they can deliver messages in a way that we 338 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: at America First Works cannot because we don't have the 339 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: same branding or surrogates. So how do we start? 340 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: How are they calling teach Because you have some of 341 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: these groups that are in a way partners to you, 342 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: and so how do you work together with those groups? 343 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: Because I think that's what we've seen kind of with 344 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: the Arabella model on the Democrat side, is there's this 345 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: place where this money comes in, and then they sort 346 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: of say, Okay, you are going to talk to. 347 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: This group and you're going to talk to that group. 348 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 2: And that had historically worked, and then I think they 349 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: got so off this time because obviously switching Biden out 350 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: at the last minute made them look like, obviously you 351 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: thought Biden was a bad guy, and you put him 352 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: in anyway, and then you picked this woman who you 353 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 2: has not been vetted. She doesn't know, she's been sitting 354 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: next to the White House having no idea what's happening, clearly, 355 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: and that was all. 356 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: I think it was kind of. 357 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: The perfect storm. We had the perfect candidate. They had 358 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 2: the worst possible scenario. And so when you look at this, 359 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 2: what these individual groups that have partnered with you, what 360 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: did they do and how do you keep in touch? 361 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: Well, actually, I think you hit on a really important point. 362 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 3: People don't realize how divided the Democrat Party was. They 363 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: did not realize that there were so many fractures within 364 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: the party. And you look at you know, three days 365 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: after or two days after Kamala Harris got Joe Biden's 366 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 3: endorsement and Clinton's had endorsed her. Black Lives Matter put 367 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: out a statement saying that there should be a mini primary. 368 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: I really believe that's what the Obamas wanted as well. 369 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: So there were so many and then you had, you know, 370 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: the Palestine Jewish fracture. Then you had this team Stress 371 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: who wouldn't endorse her. So there were so many different 372 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 3: divisions within the Democrat Party that you look at with 373 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: Black Americans, right, and the difference between men and women, 374 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: and all of the issues. They had been so condescending, 375 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 3: calling masculinity toxic. That doesn't bode well with Hispanic men 376 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: or Black American men. And we saw all of those, 377 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: you know, different fractures happening across the party, and they 378 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: couldn't get together. I followed several of the liberal Instagram 379 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: accounts and they wouldn't even get behind They wouldn't even 380 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: endorse her until the weekend before the election. And this 381 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: is the party that really counted on mail and early voting, 382 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: and they just didn't show up. 383 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: It was kind of amazing Trump's lead with Hispanic voters. 384 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: How did that outreach go? Because I remember early on 385 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: when in the spring, when we were all sitting together. 386 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: The Hispanic groups were saying, there's no ads, there's no 387 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 2: ads in Spanish. The Democrats have done such a great job. 388 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: How did that change in morph over time? And how 389 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 2: did we end up reaching out to those folks? 390 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: So a lot. We did a little bit of ground 391 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: game with that, We did some text messaging with that. 392 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 3: I know there were some other groups that were involved. 393 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: Babu Nonwey from Goya, CEO of Goya has been absolutely phenomenal. 394 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 3: He traveled all over the country. Hayesus Marquez and Nevada 395 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: was phenomenal. He was really organizing and mobilizing in Nevada. 396 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: Van Venido had a very strong presence in Arizona. But 397 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: one of the groups that did a really phenomenal job 398 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 3: on the advertising part of this was Job Creator Network 399 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: with Alfred Martiz and they had significant advertisement and radio ads, 400 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: targeting and just you know, educating Hispanic voters. I think 401 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: that had a big impact and it was definitely a 402 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: big difference compared to the last election cycle. But this 403 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 3: is something that we've been working on for the past 404 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 3: four years, is how do you continue to bring these 405 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: policies to Hispanic communities or you know, historically underserved or 406 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: ignored communities, and that's something I think we've just really 407 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: excelled at is making the conservative movement, the America First Movement, 408 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 3: big tent while they're, you know, in fighting on the 409 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: other side. 410 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: Would you say you were in all the swing states. 411 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 3: We were in all the swing states. Yes. 412 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: And then if people want to get involved, what do 413 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 2: they do? How do they talk to you guys? How 414 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: do they keep this going? Is there like a program 415 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: that they can do locally? 416 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you go on America First works dot com, 417 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: you can sign up to volunteer, and depending upon your community, 418 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 3: we could plug you in. One thing that was really 419 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 3: important for us was to have real conversations with people 420 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 3: through text messaging. So we had about fifty volunteers who 421 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: literally just replied to text messages after we deploy them. 422 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 3: And it's funny because if you all of us get 423 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: a million text messages around, you know, political election season, 424 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: and some people would reply with FU and our team 425 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 3: would say, We're so sorry to bother you. We just 426 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 3: wanted to make sure you knew your polling place and 427 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: see if you're planning to vote early, And they would say, 428 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, this is a real person. I can't 429 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 3: believe it, and then they would have a conversation with us. 430 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 3: So changing the game again providing that service. So there 431 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: are volunteers who do that for us. We're still doing canvassing, 432 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 3: we're doing follow up, and we'll continue to do that 433 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 3: early into next year. So America First Works is where 434 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: to get involved? 435 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 2: How much does an operation like this cost? I mean, 436 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: we know that there's billions of dollars that went into 437 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 2: this cycle, and we had heard. 438 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: That there was a group here and a group there. 439 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: But how much were you able? 440 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: I mean you were very young, Like you said, you're 441 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: like a toddler organization three years old. It started out 442 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 2: as like a couple million dollars. So how over time 443 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: did you how much did you end up having to 444 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: bring in and then deploy in this in this race? 445 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 3: So we started with every year it was about a 446 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: two million dollar organization. Our goal initially was about ten 447 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 3: million dollars for this effort. When we needed to expand 448 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: our counties and do more of a ground game, we 449 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 3: increased our budget and we raised about thirty five million dollars. 450 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: And so that was for all of our target states, 451 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: all of our work, and I think we were very 452 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 3: efficient making sure that we had the highest return on 453 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: investment for our donors. And one thing that was also 454 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 3: really important to us was if we saw you know, 455 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: Faith and Freedom storehanger and America pack storehanger, we would 456 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: go back and look at our universes. And then that's 457 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 3: how why we ended up expanding into some other counties. 458 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: Cobb County was like really oversaturated, so it doesn't make 459 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: sense for us to keep going to Cobb County if 460 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 3: there are three or four groups that are already there. 461 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: So having that data share in place with the different 462 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: groups was a game changer for us. 463 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more with Ashley Hayak coming up, but 464 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: first let me tell you about my partners at IFCJ. 465 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: Last week, Americans voted in one of the most consequential 466 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: elections in our history, and with all that is happening, 467 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: we know that the support of Americans like you means 468 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: so much to the people of Israel, especially now this 469 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: last year. 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Now stay tuned, We've got more 486 00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 2: coming up. 487 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: What do you talk about faith and freedom? 488 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: But I know we were talking about how do we 489 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 2: get Christians out, how do we get some of these 490 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: other groups out? 491 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: You talked about Hunter Nation. 492 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: What do you think was the what were some of 493 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 2: the key groups that hadn't really been hadn't really had 494 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 2: that conversation about coming out to vote that you guys 495 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 2: were able to reach in a different way and push 496 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: out there. 497 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: That really made a change in this election. 498 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: I think it was conservative women and moms. I think 499 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: Riley Gaines did a lot of that work too. The 500 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: title nine transgender attack on girls and women was a 501 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: game changer. Going into election day. There were five hundred 502 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: over five hundred thousand less liberal women who had voted 503 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: compared to twenty twenty in the battleground states. Over half 504 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: a million in the battleground states. They were underwater in Pennsylvania, 505 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 3: they were underwater in most of the states. And then 506 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 3: I mean, how can you tell women for four years 507 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: you're not a woman? What is a woman? You can't 508 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: be safe. You have Lake and Riley issues. You have 509 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: women getting smashed in the face of the volleyball and 510 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: the Democrats are saying it's okay. And for all of 511 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 3: these women to show up for you, I think that 512 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: was the biggest surprise that I saw, was with women 513 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 3: and parents. So that was pretty phenomenal. The other group 514 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: I thought that was really interesting was the MAHA group, 515 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 3: and that was led by amoryalist Fox Kennedy RFK Junior's 516 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: daughter in law and her ability to bring awareness to 517 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: you know, red food coloring and you know food security 518 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: that is a game changer, especially for suburban women, and 519 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 3: how so unaffordable for more people to have access to healthy, 520 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: fresh foods. 521 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: We've talked about that so many times, about just the 522 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 2: poisons that We've had so many people on here that 523 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: have talked about the food coloring, especially just the problems 524 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: that can cause with children with ticks. All of this, 525 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: and moms are suddenly going, man, does my kid actually 526 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: have a problem or is my child being poisoned and 527 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 2: you don't even know about it? And I think that 528 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: was a big mover for women. Oddly enough, the only 529 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 2: demographic that did not move toward Trump at all was 530 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: very wealthy white women, which I think is very interesting 531 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: because I mean, people have made the comment that white 532 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: women use the oppression like very wealthy liberal white women 533 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: use the oppression of others as like a. 534 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: Louis vuittone bag, like oh. 535 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 2: I feel bad for this, like this is I feel 536 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: their victimhood and it's all fake. And I just kind 537 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 2: of wonder if that was created with this mainstream media 538 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 2: that is pushing the operas of the world and the 539 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: j Lo's of the world and all of these people 540 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: that came out for her, that were like outrageously wealthy 541 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: and saying like, we know what the country needs, and 542 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: people are going, how the heck do you know what 543 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 2: the country needs? You flew here on your own jet 544 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: and you're staying in your seventh home. You know, it's like, 545 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 2: how could you possibly know? And then you see all 546 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: of these other demographics move toward Trump. I wonder if 547 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: those women will come out again, if those white women, 548 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: those wealthy white women will change over time. 549 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: But also, there wasn't one other weird thing that I 550 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about. 551 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: Because we saw this like massive amount of people that 552 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: came out for Joe Biden in twenty twenty, We said, 553 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: how did over eighty million people come out for Joe Biden? 554 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: Fifteen million Democrats were missing. 555 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: Suddenly I saw those posts that one of these one 556 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: guy posts. He was like, America's pastors have all gotten 557 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: together to discuss the real possibility that the rapture occurred, 558 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: because we lost fifteen million Democrats overnight, and it's like, 559 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: what did happen? 560 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean, are people looking at that and saying what happened? 561 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, Kelly and Conway tweeted this morning the hidden 562 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,239 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris voter is still hidden because I mean, it's 563 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 3: just it's not there. But there's two things. Number One, 564 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: we saw just the total lack of enthusiasm and just 565 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: from the left and from her. And it was interesting 566 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: because we saw like, oh, there's a movement of women 567 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: for Kamala Harris. That was the news rapport on Thursday 568 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: and Friday going into the weekend before the election. And 569 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 3: that's when our team sat down and started doing the 570 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: data and realized, no, it's not they actually have less 571 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 3: women voters today than before. And then the second thing 572 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: that I thought was really interesting was on the day 573 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: of the election, they said there was going to be 574 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: historic one hundred and fifty percent turnout in Philadelphia for 575 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, and it did it in order for her 576 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: to be as successful. In order for Philadelphia to have 577 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 3: carried the state at that point, she would have had 578 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: to receive like one hundred percent voter turnout, receive every 579 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 3: single Democrat vote, every single independent vote, and at least 580 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: twenty to forty thousand Republican votes. So the math wasn't there. 581 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: And so that is just like the liberal media gaslighting 582 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: us again into believing something that wasn't true. I also 583 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: think we saw a big increase in veterans because her 584 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: vice president pick was a pathological liar who did not 585 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: serve the way that he said he was. It was 586 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: stolen valor, and I still hope he's held accountable for that. 587 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 3: But you know, the list of this goes on and 588 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: on and on, and quite frankly, Tutor, they cheated last time, 589 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: and I think we need to recognize that there was 590 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: a completely different election integrity operation in twenty twenty four 591 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 3: as opposed to twenty twenty. Laura Trump and Michael Wattley 592 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: were so on top of it and every time we 593 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 3: would see something, we would flag it and within five 594 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 3: minutes there was a lawsuit. And it wasn't because of us, 595 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: they were already in the process of doing it. So 596 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 3: I mean, they absolutely cheated in twenty twenty There's no 597 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: doubt in my mind, and the numbers I think show that. 598 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: Well, we are so impressed with what you guys were 599 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: able to do. Honestly, I think it was when you 600 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: said people were questioning the ground game. I think it 601 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: was because it was the biggest concern, and you mentioned 602 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: the RNC. Totally different situation because they weren't even allowed 603 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: to play in elections back in twenty twenty and then 604 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: everything changed and they were in involved in twenty four 605 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: in a major way and that just changed everything about 606 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: this election. But for people who are concerned about going forward, 607 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: and they're like, Okay, now we have this, this was created, 608 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: but how do we keep it? 609 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: How do they give how do they get involved? 610 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, go to America first works dot com. We'll get 611 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: you involved. Well, we're going to still do door knocking, 612 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: We're still doing text messaging. There's so much opportunity, especially 613 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: there's short term and long term. The first hundred days 614 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 3: of a new administration, we're going to have to make 615 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 3: sure we're getting the word out about the policies. And 616 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: then long term is what does this look like going 617 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 3: up to twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight. So 618 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: lots of opportunity across the board for all the coalition work, 619 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: all the ground games. So and just thank you so much. 620 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: We've loved partnering with you two tutor, and I'm excited 621 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: for the best is yet to come. As the president. 622 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: You still always say. 623 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: That's right exactly, that's the beauty of it. And you know, 624 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: it's so funny because my daughter came home the other 625 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: day and she was like, the best is yet to come, 626 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: and I'm like, that is a that's catchy when you 627 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: have a thirteen year old saying that to you. But 628 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: I think the whole country just well obviously not the 629 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: whole country, but an overwhelming majority of the country has 630 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: sighed a sigh of relief over the torture that we've 631 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: been through for the last four years. I mean even 632 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: looking at the economy and how things are already changing, 633 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: just outlooks and everything, and I mean it just is, oh, 634 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: thank goodness, yeah, thank goodness. It was such an overwhelming victory. 635 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: And I know everybody said it has to be too 636 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: big to rig, and that is what America First Works 637 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: was all about making sure it was too big to rig, 638 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: making sure that we got as many voters out as 639 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: we could, and those low propensity voters as people that 640 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: you knew that don't vote every time, but you know 641 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: they care, and you guys got to them. So we 642 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: are so grateful to you for what you did, because 643 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: it is amazing to go the popular vote, the electoral college, 644 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: Like there is no denying this was a massive win. 645 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: We're going to do it big. It's big Lee. We 646 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: did it. You guys did it. 647 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you, thank you so much. 648 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: And Ashley Ashley Hyek. If you guys need to find her, 649 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: look her up. She's amazing. Thank you so much for 650 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: being on, Thank you for having me absolutely, and thank 651 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 652 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: As always, for this episode and others, go to Tutor 653 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: Dixon podcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or 654 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts and join us next time 655 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 656 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: Have a blessing.