1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now Alex Berenson 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: in the mix once again. He is an author, a writer, researcher, 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: unreported truths on Substack. I'm a subscriber. Recommend you all 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: go check it out too, Alex. Good to have you back. 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: Let's dive in if we can to HHS being run 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: by RFK Junior. If this one goes well, Actually, before 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: we get to what he'll do, how much resistance do 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: you think there really is from the machine? Is it 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: almost Gates level or substantially less in your mind? 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: No, No, it's at least Gates level. I mean, wow, 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: it's stay here. Yeah, I mean, this is a this 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: is a big deal. I mean, you know, this is 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: a trillion dollar agency, and you know he's going to 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: be taking on one of the most powerful industries in 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: the United States and the world. I think that that 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: that President Trump or President like Trump will appoint him 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: with a recess appointment if necessary, which which might be necessary, uh, 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: I think, I think, I mean, listen, the Gates thing 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: is interesting because I think that's a lot of shriven 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: seemingly personally that people just do not like him on 21 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: Capitol Hill. But this one is much more substantive. 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: So what what what do you think about? Like, what 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: are the good things that he could do? What are 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: you worried about him doing if he gets into this role? 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: If anything? 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: Sure? 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: I mean he he has a lot of ideas that 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: that that that I think are I don't agree. Let 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: me put it this, I don't agree with everything that R. K. 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: Junior thinks about medicine, about vaccines, uh and in general 31 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: about you know, what's making Americans unhealthy and how we 32 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: can fix it. But I think the fact that that 33 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: that he's being seriously considered, that he's being nominated for 34 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: this shows you how frustrated and angry the United States 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: has become with public health. 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Well well can I can I jump in there Alex, 37 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: just real quick, just just because I mean, I I 38 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: think the CDC is what they did in COVID. I mean, 39 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: this is why I wanted to have you on, because 40 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: you were front and center and you gave a lot 41 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: of us and you know, you remember I was one 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: of the early ones on the right who was like 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: this is crazy. The lockdowns are nuts. And I was like, hey, 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: there's this guy, Alex Perence, and nice to have you on. 45 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 1: My show, but it was just my show before Clay 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: and I teamed up. I think what the CDC did 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: is vile. I think it lost all credibility with people 48 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: that actually have brain cells and can think for themselves. 49 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: And I think something dramatic needs to be done. 50 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: Yes, well, I totally agree and that and that's why 51 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: you know, I I amn't taken a position on this, 52 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: not that you know, not that anyone necessarily cares what 53 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: I think. I think. Ultimately, I'm going to support it, 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: even though I haven't this givings about some of the 55 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: specifics of some of the stuff. RFK believes and says, 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: because we need to shake up the public health establishment 57 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: and the medical establishment and the medical research establishment in 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: the United States because they consider themselves better than the 59 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: people they serve. And it comes out in a hundred 60 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: different ways. And you know, and they've they've they've lied 61 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: more and more openly, right so, so they they've just 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: been aligned right at the NIH and uh, you know, 63 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: and elsewhere in the government about the fact that that 64 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: you know that COVID almost certainly all I mean all 65 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: but certainly came out of a Chinese lab right, they 66 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: just won't admit it, and that's a huge that's a 67 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: huge thing because you know, many people died, and it. 68 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: Is a lab that US funding, US funding did go 69 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: to this lab. 70 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: That's right, it's it. And and there's a US scientist 71 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: named Ralph Barrack in North Carolina who's very very closely 72 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: connected with that lab, and he's also very very closely 73 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: connected with Anthony Fauci. So the fact that no one 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: in the government has been willing to discuss this in 75 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: a meaningful way in five years, that's a huge problem. 76 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: The fact that so many people took mRNA vaccines and 77 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: had serious side effects and then and then very quickly 78 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 2: got COVID afterwards, and we're supposed to pretend that these work. 79 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: And the CDC, I mean, as I said this this morning, 80 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: the CDC doubled down on this by continuing they're continuing 81 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: to say that people including infants six months old and older, 82 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: should get us an mRNA vaccine. Now, it is crazy 83 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: that they will not have an honest conversation about this, 84 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: and it is and it is a response to this. 85 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: There's a response to all of these individual things, and 86 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: then together a response to the fie that we have 87 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: a four trillion dollar trillion with a t medical industry 88 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: in the United States, and yet our life expectancy is 89 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: basically the same as it was twenty years ago and 90 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: has gone down for a couple of years, you know, 91 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: went down during COVID, went down because of the opioid crisis. 92 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: Our medical establishment is in turmoil. It is not running well. 93 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: It is in love with itself. And our K Junior 94 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: is going to shape that up now. He's he's going 95 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: to do some things that I don't like now I 96 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: don't necessarily think are scientifically. 97 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: Before before we get Alex m a, before we get 98 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: to what you don't like people in the White House 99 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: or the White House to be I should say, listen 100 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: to this show a handful of them that I know 101 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: for a fact. What should r f K. I mean 102 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: if you were an advisor to the head of AHHS, 103 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: given what you've seen with the way they play these 104 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: games in the CDC in on NIH, what are the 105 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: big level things that should be done? 106 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, So so in terms of vaccines, the number 107 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: one thing that needs to happen. And I've said this 108 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: publicly and I'm going to keep writing about it. You know, 109 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: I wrote about it on unreported truth in a few 110 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: days ago, I'm gonna write about again. We need to 111 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: end vaccine liability, I mean liability protection vaccine immunity vaccines. 112 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: You need to be able to sue over vaccine injuries 113 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: the way you can see over injuries for any other 114 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: product in the United States. Okay, they're not. And that's 115 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: very important for two reasons. Okay. First of all, what 116 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: the pharma pharma is not stupid, okay, And what FARMA 117 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: has done is it has it has tried to get 118 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: more and more products classified as vaccine, so they have 119 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: this absolute protection, you know, with some success, and that's 120 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: something that they'll continue to do. But more importantly, by 121 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: saying that we're buying into this myth that vaccines are 122 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: some miracle that can never be questioned. Okay, they're so 123 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: special and so important that a right that we have 124 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: that extends to every other product does not extend to them. 125 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: That's what we're saying when we allow vaccines to be 126 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: completely immune from any lawsuits. And we shouldn't do that 127 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: because they're not. They're just another product. They need to 128 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: be judged normally, as with risks and benefits. The second thing, 129 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: and this is more complicated. I don't even know if 130 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: this is possible, okay, but and frankly I think it 131 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: might be constitutionally problematic. 132 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 4: But well, we should. 133 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: Try to figure out if there's a way to at 134 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: least reduce direct to consumer advertising of pharmaceutical products, you know, 135 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: I prescription drugs. 136 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, miss alex I don't 137 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: want to interrupt your floaks. I'm liking all this information, 138 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: but there's a theory. Here's the thing people see these drugs. 139 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: We all know the thing. We see somebody on horseback 140 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: on a beach and then it's like oh, and then 141 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: they're like going through a field and then it's like, 142 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, uh something something arab you know, and some 143 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: drug you've never heard of before. You're like, I don't 144 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: even know what this thing does. How is this advertising? 145 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: And the theory that I see people put out there is, well, 146 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: it's because they're buying off the entirety of the media 147 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: with massive, massive advertising campaigns, and so they know they 148 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: won't be criticized because you're not going to attack phiz 149 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: or Pizer's writing you a ten million dollars year check. 150 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: Is that what's going on? Because I'd understand how advertising 151 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: for a product that nobody understands is advertised. 152 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: Well, so I think that is actually part of it. 153 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: I've gotten more cynical about that part of it and 154 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: I think I think there's something to that. But but 155 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: what this does and the company you know this is 156 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: it gets people go into their doctors and ask, oh, 157 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: you know what, like do I have FI blood pressure? 158 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: Do I need you know, blah blah blah drug for that? 159 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: And it gets them to ask. And there's another thing 160 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: that happens, which is that it drives up overall spending 161 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: on drugs. Why because you know, the way this drugs 162 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: industry works in this country is that is that you 163 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: get patent protection for you know, about fifteen to twenty years, 164 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 2: depending on the drug and depending on how quickly you 165 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: get it approved, and then that goes away. So once 166 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: that goes away, the companies stop advertising it, they stop 167 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: caring about it, and that so the companies want to 168 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: switch people from generic to branded drugs and the advertisement 169 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: helps with that. So it's all those different reasons. But 170 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: people point out correctly that we in New Zealand are 171 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: the only two countries in the world where you can 172 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: advertise these products directly to consumers. Now, I'm just not sure, honestly, 173 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: whether there's a legal way to regulate this. You know, 174 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: in the US, we have First Amendment protections for commercial speech, 175 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: and you can see uh, you know, gambling and Ricker 176 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: and all kinds of ads on TV. You know, people 177 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: say tobacco, Well, the tobacco companies sort of voluntarily gave 178 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: that up in the late nineties as part of a 179 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: settlement you know, of all the you know, for all 180 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: the stuff they've been doing for fifty years. So I 181 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: don't know whether there's a way to regulate this, but 182 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: certainly RFK should look at that. 183 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: Now, what would you want them to stay away from? 184 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if you were giving advice, hey, I think 185 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: you shouldn't go down this rabbit hole or it's not 186 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: worth it, or you know, because you were you were 187 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: about to go down there. I don't I don't want 188 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: to stop you. I just wanted to get you on 189 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: this side of it first. But what what concerns you 190 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: or what advice would you give to r FK Junior 191 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: going in, Hey, man, don't don't try. Don't try to 192 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: do this. You got other things you got to handle. 193 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: Well, so this is going to annoy a lot of 194 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: fun reported truth readers and maybe some of your audience. 195 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: But I don't see. I mean, if he wants to 196 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: do a deep dive into the science around the harms 197 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: of older childhood vaccines, I'm not talking about the MR 198 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: and A COVID vaccines. I'm not talking about new vaccines. 199 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the stuff that was around, that's been 200 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: around for generations, that is sort of widely used. If 201 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: he wants to, you know, sort of trying to figure 202 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: out if there's any fresh way into that, I think 203 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: that's okay. I think in the interim, it would be 204 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: a bad idea to discourage people from taking those vaccines. 205 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: For their kids. 206 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: I just I know there's a big argument about this, 207 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: and I haven't looked at it deeply, but my sense 208 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: is there's not good evidence that those vaccines, the older ones, 209 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: cause autism, which is the big concern about them, and 210 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 2: unless we have that, we shouldn't be discouraging parents from 211 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: from doing that, in my. 212 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: Opinion, Alex, I don't know if you know, but we 213 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: we on the show, you know, we know some people 214 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: would you would you serve in a capacity advisory capacity? 215 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: If asked by RFK Junior at HHS. 216 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: Yes, I would do that. I mean, I'm not an MP, 217 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: but I would try to help them ask the right questions. 218 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would do. 219 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: That, but but you know, they might not want me 220 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: because like, like I'm expressing skepticism that they might not 221 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: want to hear. 222 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: Well, what I would offer is that is that your 223 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: track record on COVID shows that you follow the evidence, 224 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: and if what one of the ways they're going to 225 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: shake up the culture of not just CDC, but overall 226 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: everything under the umbrella of HHS is to allow informed 227 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: skepticism as part of the debate to get to the 228 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: best possible solutions. I think you and there would make 229 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: a lot of sense, right because you're not some true 230 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: believer in one thing or another. You follow the evidence. 231 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: I still remembered you came on this show in July 232 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: of twenty two. I think it was you're like, guys, 233 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: these vaccines, the efficacy window is like a few weeks 234 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: you were getting hammered for having you on. You were 235 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: one hundred percent right yep. 236 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: And one other thing, and this is maybe more my 237 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: thing personally, I'm not a big fan of of like 238 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 2: allistic drugs, generally right, or you know, cannabis and the psychedelics, 239 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: the stuff where there's been a strong move to legalize 240 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: these things in the last thirty years. I don't see 241 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: a lot of help to the public health in that. 242 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: And I know RFK or I've read that RFK is 243 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: interested in legalizing cannabis and legalizing you know, or more 244 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: encouraging medical use of the psychedelics. I think the evidence 245 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: is really weak on that, and I wouldn't encourage that. 246 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: But you know, I'm not going to go to I'm 247 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: not going to go to war on that, but I 248 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: don't think it's a it's a great move. 249 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Alex, we're gonna keep talking about this 250 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: as it moves forward. And oh wait, what is accountability 251 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: at the I've only got like a minute, but what 252 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: does accountability at the CDC look like? I mean, what 253 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: does real accountability there mean in twenty twenty five. If 254 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: RFK Junior can do it. 255 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: It would start by ending all recommendations for the mRNA 256 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: vaccines and going into the CDC's relationships with drug companies 257 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: vaccine manufacturers. 258 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: I'd start there, all right, excellent, Alex, Thanks so much. 259 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: Unreported truths. Everybody on Substack. I'm an early and longtime subscriber. 260 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: Recommend you do it, Alex, appreciate you making the time 261 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: for us. 262 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: Fuck tremendous pleasure. 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Spend time with Clay 298 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 5: and find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever 299 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 5: you get your podcasts. 300 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back into Clay and Bok. We'll take some calls. Also, 301 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: get some of your VIP emails. At a claybook dot 302 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: com sign up to be of the IP. Let's start 303 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: with because lines a lit. I appreciate all of you 304 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: calling in Frank in Glendora, California. Frank, you are a 305 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: retired alternative medicine doc. What do you have to tell us? 306 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I listened. I listened to you guys all 307 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 6: the time, and today's program was extremely relevant to my past. 308 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 6: And I just I'm I tell everybody this AA and 309 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 6: I have been for the last thirty five years. If 310 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 6: America uh what would uh? Let me bring it to 311 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 6: the president. The deployment at JSK uh rf k is 312 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 6: is one of the greatest things that ever happened. Is 313 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 6: is he is given the power by President Trump to 314 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 6: truly take on the drug manufacturers, the the food processors, 315 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 6: the food die uh makers. 316 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 7: Uh uh and the the the so called nutrition programs 317 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 7: in our elementary and junior high schools and change it 318 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 7: to a natural organic uh change it. 319 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 6: To or uh natural organic food. In four years, you 320 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 6: would see a transformation of of young Americans. I'm disusing 321 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 6: school children as an example of young Americans from seventy 322 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 6: OBTD to the most dynamic help uh. He ain't can imagine. 323 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Doc, I appreciate you calling in. It sounds 324 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: like you're very fired up about the RFK junior appointment. 325 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: Let's hope it all goes through. Thank you, thank you 326 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: for your time and calling in. I'll just say this, Yeah, 327 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: I just remember the food that I was, the food 328 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: that I ate growing up in school served by the 329 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: schools was absolute trash, trash, garbage and uh and I 330 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: kind of knew it at the time, to be honest, 331 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: like I don't eat this stuff. But that that's one 332 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: big part of the equation. But I think the biggest 333 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: is going to be for me. The biggest thing is 334 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: you got to you've got to look into all the 335 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: COVID stuff and you've got to get it on record 336 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: that they everything was bull crap, they got it all wrong. 337 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: We're never doing that again. Masks are a joke. All 338 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: of that that has to be official public record through 339 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: the government itself. So that's one thing. You know. I 340 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: grew up in New York City and it was a 341 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: wall street town when I grew up there. My dad 342 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: was a stockbroker. 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Welcome back 359 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: into Clay and Buck. 360 00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 6: We are. 361 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: Going to be joined later on by my friend David Harstani. 362 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: He's got a book I think very interesting for The Times, 363 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: The Rise of Blue A nine. Basically how conspiracy theories 364 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: on the Democrat side are entirely to say they're normalized 365 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: is almost an understatement, which it is an understatement because 366 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: it really comes from the top. Actually, it's not that 367 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: there'll be something that gains traction among Democrats a Russia collusion, 368 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: for example, but it's that it will be told by 369 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: the people that are supposed to be trusted the most 370 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: are many times in the world of Blue and On 371 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: spreading this nonsense and making sure that people believe things 372 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: that are just flatly untrue. And it can be very 373 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: destabilizing when people think these things. That's why they are 374 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: all these A lot of you aren't on TikTok, I 375 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 1: can tell you because that's the social media platform that 376 00:19:54,840 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: is largely of the gen Z cohort. And whatever what 377 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: comes guys, what comes after gen Z? Do we have 378 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: you named that gen yet? Is there a you know 379 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: what I mean? But the young people used that use 380 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: the TikTok and you have all these people that are 381 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: completely freaking out because Trump won the election, and in 382 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: a way where it's obvious that they are emotionally disturbed. 383 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: It's not oh, I'm bummed out. I thought Kamlo was 384 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: gonna do a great job and that alone is kind 385 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: of crazy. Uh, it's more gen Alpha really it's kind 386 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: of a that's kind of a cool name actually for them. 387 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe hopefully they'll be a gen, a generation that 388 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: earns the name Alpha. So yeah. I also, you know, 389 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: we haven't talked about it very much here up to 390 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: this point because the election has been overshadowing it. But 391 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: there's a trial going on in New York City of 392 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: marine Daniel Penny, and I have to tell you, I 393 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: am I am concerned about where this is going. I've 394 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: seen some of the reporting from people. A New York 395 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: Post writer has been writing about it, that this is 396 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: being turned into something of a circus court room atmosphere. 397 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of kind of shouting and noise being made, 398 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: and they're activists who are present. And you know, we 399 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: talked to well, we talked to actually Alexperience It about 400 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: this funny He was just on with us about how 401 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: it is bas based on the medical evidence, it is 402 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: the case that George Floyd died of a drug overdose. 403 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: And I know Tucker said that years ago too, and 404 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: I was I was pretty impressed when Tucker said it 405 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: because that was when they were really there was the 406 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: the paint on the paintings on the murals was still 407 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: drying when Tucker said that, I think it's true. I 408 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: think he's right, and I think that dang. I think 409 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: that dead Derek Chauvin, right, Derek Chauvin was something of 410 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: a human sacrifice to the woke mob on this issue. 411 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: And that he's serving twenty five to life and being 412 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: treated as some vile racist because a career criminal, a 413 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: drug addict, died of a drug overdose while he was 414 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: completely freaking out is a grave injustice. And Trump can't 415 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: really do anything about it, although he could pardon him 416 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: from the federal charges that they tacked onto it as well, 417 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: but he's already serving twenty five to life for the 418 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: state of Minnesota. Maybe Minnesota can get a governor who's 419 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: not a total clown. How about that Minnesotans who vote Democrat. 420 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: You know, it's insane, Tim Wallas, what a joke that 421 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: guy was. But they didn't There was no way you 422 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: were ever going to have a fair trial for Joven. 423 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: That was never going to happen. And I don't think 424 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: that Daniel Penny's getting a fair trial. And this is 425 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: going on right now. In fact, we have some testimony 426 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: this was played for the jury this week here's Daniel 427 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: Penny talking to detectives in the interrogation room after the incident. 428 00:22:54,880 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: Listening to what he says, twenty eight sorry wait now 429 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: standing behind me and I. 430 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: Come in. I think no, I wasn't. 431 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: I just wanted to chiep him from getting to people. 432 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to like, I'm not trying to like 433 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: kill the guy. 434 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 5: Some guy came in, he's like whipped his shot off 435 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 5: and he's like, I want to kill everybody. I'm not 436 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 5: a confotational guy in the Marine Corps. 437 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: I fell with the need that to, you know, step 438 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: in and get there's women in chow. You're on the train. 439 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: This is he. He hasn't been coached by anybody, hasn't 440 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: had time to come up with a defense. One percent. 441 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: I thought people's lives were in danger. I didn't mean 442 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: to kill him. I just tried to keep him away 443 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: from other people. We're now a society where I shouldn't 444 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: say we, because this is New York City Democrat on Clay. 445 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: This is where Alvin Bragg calls the shots. Is Alvin 446 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: Bragg's office. Alvin Bragg calls the shots and they've charged 447 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: Penny with I think it's manslaughter. And criminally negligent homicide. 448 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: So these you know, he's facing a long time in 449 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: prison over this. And I just wonder, I guess the 450 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: city of New York with Democrats in charge, New York 451 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: needs a massive wake up call the state the city 452 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: it has there. It's just like California. They've ruined it. 453 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: They've had all these social justice idiots in charge, these 454 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: collectivist communists in charge, who want to just take money 455 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: from the people who are productive. They want no rule 456 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: of law for those who are actually a criminals and 457 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 1: causing problems. You know, the city of New York can 458 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: be can be typified right now, or you can encapsulated 459 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: right now by they don't want to lock up people 460 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: who run around punching elderly people in the face. They 461 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: might arrest them, but they'll let them out the same day. 462 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: But the elderly for the Trump organization, I think his 463 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: name is Alan Weiselberg, he can go to Rikers Island 464 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: because he didn't list a company car on his tax returns. 465 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: That's law enforcement in New York City. And again, now 466 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: you also understand the mentality. Why would you send someone 467 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: like Matt Gates into DJ because the same people who think, 468 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: don't put the lunatics who are bashing old ladies' faces 469 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: in in prison, but put Trump accountants in prison. The 470 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: same people that can make that little mental calculation are 471 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: the people at the top of the DOJ who are 472 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: or saying, you know, let's try to lock up a 473 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: presidential candidate. But during the summer of twenty twenty, all 474 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: those riots, attacking federal officers, destroying federal property, none of 475 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: that should be punished, not in any meaningful way whatsoever. 476 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: The only riot that those people that I'm talking about 477 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: want to punish is January sixth, and they want to 478 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: punish it in the most extreme way. All other riots 479 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: that that was just the Biden campaign. Those are Biden 480 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: foot soldiers. Not gonna punish them. This stuff has to 481 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: be dealt with, and dealing with it doesn't mean we're 482 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: not going to do it. Dealing with it means consequences 483 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: for the people who did it, so that there is 484 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: justice and so that others know I'm not going to 485 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: pull that crap. Now, back to Daniel Penny in the 486 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: subways of New York City. I mean, I can tell 487 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: you from personal experience, I think all in I lived 488 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: thirty something years in New York. I can't even do 489 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: the mech I don't really know if you count college right. 490 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: I went off to Massachusetts for a few years, went 491 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: to DC for a number of years, call thirty something years. 492 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: I lived in New York City, and I lived there 493 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: during the bad times, the worst times actually the early nineties, 494 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: and the best times, which were two thy tens. I 495 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: would say around that period was when the city was 496 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: just at its absolute peak golden age for New York 497 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: in terms of safety and cleanliness and everything. It was 498 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: just great. And then it's gone way downhill, and the 499 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: taxes are out of control and the tax authorities are 500 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: absolutely rapacious. So you know, I've been on the subway 501 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: before when clearly deranged and threatening people get on your 502 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: subway car, and I've had to make that mental calculation 503 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: of And I'm not saying I'm the way every every guy. 504 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean with the women. I think on the subway car, 505 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: it's oh my gosh, like, how do I avoid being 506 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: attacked by this guy? And for some of the guys 507 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: on the subway car, they have their Daniel Penny moment. 508 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: They think to themselves, what am I gonna do if 509 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: this guy is about to make a move. What do 510 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: I do if he if he starts groping some woman, 511 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: which happens on the subways, or he threatens to stab 512 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: somebody if they don't give them their wallet, which happens 513 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: on the subways. Like what am I going to do 514 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: as a guy? And I'm gonna tell you the truth? 515 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: A lot of us. I mean, I remember I was 516 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: I was Columbus Circle subway and this was Clay and 517 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: I were doing the show together. It's funny. It was 518 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: like there's like COVID, there's like Clin and I teaming up. 519 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: This is how I mark things in my head. So, yeah, 520 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: I was post this show. I think I talked about 521 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: it maybe on the show. And there's a guy. Columbus 522 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: Circle is a very busy subway stop, ten o'clock in 523 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: the morning. I mean it's a it's a busy morning 524 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: on the subway stop. There's a guy who's standing atop 525 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: of the subway stairs. People walking up and down streaming 526 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,239 Speaker 1: both times, and he's standing there and he is I mean, 527 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: I think I'm allowed to say it. On the Riddy 528 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: he is masturbating. It just doesn't care and no one's 529 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: doing anything. He's like leering at women. No one's doing anything, 530 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: and he sit there and you go, okay, well, this 531 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: guy's clearly like clearly insane, you know, sexual deviant. There's 532 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: some kind of you got real problems here, and yeah, 533 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: like I don't I don't want to touch this, Like 534 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: no one wants to, you know, lay hands on this guy. 535 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: The whole thing is a mess. And where are the cops. 536 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: Where's the police? Are they gonna do it? Well if 537 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: they come over and and they, uh, you know, try 538 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: to put hands on this guy. What if somebody takes 539 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: a video of this now when all of a sudden, 540 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: this guy he's probably a scholar. You know, he fifteen 541 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: years ago, he got like an a minus on a 542 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: science report when he was in high school. So like 543 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: that's you know, the New York Times, they'll find a 544 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: graduation photo of him. They'll they'll find oh, you know, 545 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: you know he once showed up at like a senior 546 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: citizens home ten years ago to do a magic trick 547 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: or something. And so he's a great person. And look 548 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: at them face planning him on the I won't even 549 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: mention if you think I'm making that up. With the 550 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: Daniel pennycase, I'm reading the New York Times discussion of this, 551 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: and they and they are the write up of this. 552 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: They say, mister Neely, who had a history of mental illness, 553 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: boarded an uptown f train on the afternoon of May one, 554 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and began yelling. He got on the 555 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: train and said he was gonna start killing people. Began yelling. 556 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: I can get on the train and yell and say, hey, everybody, 557 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a magic trick. That's yelling. If I 558 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: get on a train and say I'm gonna kill people, 559 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a little different, isn't it. That's 560 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: a threat that's actionable. But you know what they left out. 561 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: History of mental illness. Yeah, history of attacking people on 562 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: the subway. He broke some woman's like one hundred and 563 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: ten pound Asian woman's eye socket by punching her in 564 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: the face for no reason the subway. And you might 565 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: think yourself win a second, he did that. How is 566 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: it still on the streets. Welcome to New York. Yeah, 567 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: you know this guy Neely, he's arrested. Arrested, Let out, 568 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: Let out. Gotta make sure you lock up Alan Weiselberg, though, 569 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: because he worked for the Trump organization. Gotta make sure 570 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: you lock up Steve Bennon because he won't bend the knee. 571 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: I know that's federal, but he won't bend the knee 572 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: to Pelosi and the Democrat witch hunt in Congress. You know, 573 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: gotta lock up George Papadoppolos for two weeks because he's 574 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: involved with the Trump and you know he misremembered when 575 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: he had lunch two weeks ago or something. I mean, 576 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing. This is what they do though, the 577 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: weaponization of law. It tears society apart, It messes with 578 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: us all psychologically. And now Daniel Penny faces a long 579 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: stretch in prison if he is convicted by this jury. 580 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: I wonder if the threat of riots is already hanging 581 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: in the background, if people are thinking about that in 582 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: New York if he were to be found not guilty. 583 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: But I want to tell you, I've been in New 584 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: York City and I've been through these situations, and you 585 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: know what you have to think about as a guy, 586 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: because a lot of you, I understand, a lot of 587 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: you live in places where there's more sane government. You know, 588 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: if you're listening to here right now and you live 589 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: in Idaho. You're probably thinking I could step in there, 590 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: and I know that not only could you handle yourself, 591 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: but the state's attorney or the district attorney or whatever 592 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: it is, would see it through reasonable eyes of a 593 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: person who believes that we have the right to self 594 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: defense and not be threatened with murder on the subway. Right, 595 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: The problem in New York City is if you step in, 596 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: no matter what's going on. And like I said, I 597 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: have been and I could walk you through different scenarios 598 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: where I've had to sit there and be like okay, 599 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 1: like I might have to do something here, But you 600 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: step in, it's you know it is it I step 601 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: in and and save uh, you know, save some woman 602 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: from being further violated on the subway by some maniac 603 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: who smells like he hasn't bathed in ten years. Is 604 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: that the story or is it? You know what a 605 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: white nationalist right wing radio host so use violence against 606 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: the mostly peaceful, you know, groping. I mean, these people 607 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: are maniacs in these district attorney's offices. And I know 608 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: I have friends who are working. I don't want to 609 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: get any in trouble. I know people work in these offices. 610 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: The stuff that they will do. Is that social justice nonsense. 611 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: They are maniacs and they want to punish certain people. 612 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: They want to make examples of them, and they might 613 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: do this now to Daniel Penny. So I know we're 614 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: all still in this. I gotta get to read. I know, 615 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: I know we're all still in this glow of Trump 616 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: just won the election and things are changing. They may 617 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: not change fast enough for Daniel Penny. I am very 618 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: concerned about how this jury is gonna find all. Right, 619 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: let's talk prize picks, my friends. You heard Clay's picks yesterday. 620 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 1: I still have them here somewhere. Guys, do we have 621 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: the picks? I don't know. We'll put them up on 622 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: the website. I said them yesterday. There was a mister. 623 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember the names. I don't remember these whatever. 624 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: The point is, we gave them to you. Go back 625 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: and listen to the podcast. We gave you Clay's picks 626 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: for prize picks this week for that NFL game. It's 627 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, as you can tell. I have 628 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 1: fun with it too. And when Clay wins, I get 629 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: to say thank you, Clay. We've all won some money. 630 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: When he loses, I get to make fun of him. 631 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: Prize Picks is the best app to get real, real 632 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: money sports action while watching sports live. So easy to use, 633 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: all about the players, not the team, so easy to use. 634 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: Even I can use it. And I'm not into this stuff, 635 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: as you can tell. But it's fun to do with. Yes, 636 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: I know, the gentleman's name is not Pickles. I since 637 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: found that out. There's no mister Pickles who was playing 638 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: in the football up on the website claimbuck dot com. 639 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: You've got Clay's picks there, so you can go check 640 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: that out. But first and foremost, download the Prize Picks app. 641 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. I did it on tennis 642 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: because actually know something about tennis. Was I was doing 643 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: Prize Picks with tennis when the US Open was going on. 644 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. 645 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: You know. 646 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: You can you can have your pick and put whatever 647 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: number you want down. I do small stuff because I 648 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: just enjoy it. Go to a download the Prize Picks app. 649 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: Use code Buck. You'll get fifty dollars instantly when you 650 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: play five dollars. Download that Prize Picks app. Use code Buck. 651 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 5: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Mic drops that never sounded 652 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 5: so good. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or 653 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 5: wherever you get your podcast. 654 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back into Clay and Buck and we'll get some 655 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: of your calls here. Eight hundred two A two two 656 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: eight eight two Dennis in Worcester, Ohio, which I assume 657 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: is different than Woosta in Massachusetts. What's going on, Dennis? 658 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: It is? 659 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 3: It's much better at wester Ohio. We're red. 660 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: Very nice. What's on your mind? 661 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 3: Okay, God bless you and clay or for what you do. 662 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 3: And I would love to thank you file on Russian's 663 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: face right now. But you were talking about average would 664 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 3: get bludgeted with the pharmaceutical advertisement and I and I 665 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: noticed that almost every one of them, they give a 666 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 3: ten to fifteen second window to say you could go crossy, 667 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 3: you could go down for your leg and fall off. 668 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 3: You know, don't take this if you're allergic to it. 669 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 3: But I think I've probably seen between five hundred and 670 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 3: a thousand get your COVID shot, get your COVID booster, 671 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 3: get your and there are no side effects disclaimers when 672 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 3: they advertise that shot. And I was just wondering if 673 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 3: you noticed that also. 674 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I've noticed it for sure. In fact, I recall 675 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: because I was being silenced on social media and elsewhere 676 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: that when they were rolling out that vaccine that you 677 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: it was the only drug I've ever heard of in 678 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: the history of modern medicine that had no side effects none. 679 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing? 680 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 681 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: No side effects? But there were side effects, but you 682 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: were allowed to say there were side effects. But how 683 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: does that work? My aeo cardetis became a word that 684 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they were banning on Twitter for a while. Brian, 685 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: South Carolina, What have you got for is, Brian, we 686 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: got about forty seconds. 687 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 4: Two things for DOGE. We should look at the organizational 688 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 4: structure of the US Marshall Service. There are ninety five 689 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 4: people that are presidentially appointed and confirmed by Congress. No 690 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 4: organization can run fluidly with that many people in charge. Secondly, 691 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 4: I would like to see legislation applied to the Department 692 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 4: of Labor to change how they deal with traumatic injuries 693 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 4: involving first responders, because unfortunately, the process that they have 694 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 4: is just to treat it the same as they would 695 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 4: a fraudulent claim of carpal tunnel syndrome. 696 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, thank you for the heads up on that. 697 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: People are listening, we'll take action, come back here and 698 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: get back into the Trump All star team assemblage. We'll 699 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: discuss it.