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Speaker 1: One is competitive advantage. They don't even want to tell.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to answer some of these questions the

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Speaker 1: media has because they don't even want the opponent to

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Speaker 1: know what their thought process is in those moments. Some

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Speaker 1: of that was happening in postgame interviews and what's happened

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Speaker 1: subsequently with Sean McDermott. He didn't even want to tell.

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Speaker 1: He didn't want to tell them what they were thinking of,

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Speaker 1: what the options they had on the table were. That's

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Speaker 1: one thing. The second thing is you got personal relationships people.

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Speaker 1: If it's Tyler Bass or if it was or a

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Speaker 1: Heath Farewell or Leslie Frazier or all of these guys,

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Speaker 1: one of them or all of them, and some players

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Speaker 1: out there, whether it was some other players that the

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Speaker 1: defensive players, Levi Wallace, if it was it was Tremaine dmands,

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Speaker 1: you go down the list, whoever had a hand or

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Speaker 1: possible misinterpretation or a screw up on the field where

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Speaker 1: they didn't execute Sean McDermot is not going to stand

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Speaker 1: up and say, yeah, it was that guy. That's the

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Speaker 1: guy who who did it to all of us. That's

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Speaker 1: the guy we told him to. We told him to

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Speaker 1: swib the ball, or we told him to hit the

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Speaker 1: mortar kick and he kicked it out of the end

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Speaker 1: zone because he didn't want to take a chance on

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Speaker 1: having to make a tackle. Or we told the guys

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Speaker 1: who have and they were they didn't do it because

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Speaker 1: they were just they just didn't believe the game was whatever.

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Speaker 1: The coach is not going to give you information. So,

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Speaker 1: as curious as we all are, is what really happened.

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Speaker 1: The moment that information came out, Guys like herm are

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Speaker 1: calling out, have the guy cut, whether he's a pro bowler,

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Speaker 1: all pro or not, And you don't want to have

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Speaker 1: that guy look at you as a Pro Bowl player,

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Speaker 1: all pro players saying what are you talking about? And

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Speaker 1: I'll give you two different examples of how coaches protect players. Okay,

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Speaker 1: when a mistake might make a player look bad, but

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Speaker 1: it's unknown to the general public watching the game as

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Speaker 1: to who is truly at fault, they won't say anything

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Speaker 1: to protect the player when it's readily apparent that someone

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Speaker 1: did not execute properly Scott Norwood in Super Bowl twenty five.

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Speaker 1: What did Marv Leavy do after that? He still protected

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Speaker 1: Scott Norwood. He talked about all the other plays that

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Speaker 1: were missed in that game, so that you understood that

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Speaker 1: while that kick was the last play of the game,

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Speaker 1: it didn't necessarily decide everything in how that game unfolded.

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Speaker 1: Coaches have been doing it for a long time. They

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Speaker 1: protect their players for a reason because what they ask

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Speaker 1: of their players they need each and every week if

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Speaker 1: they're going to win games and put themselves in that

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Speaker 1: position in the first place, you submarine a player, right,

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Speaker 1: that guy ain't laying it on the line for you

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Speaker 1: the next week. Thing. Here's the thing, and I get

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Speaker 1: this too in regular and maybe some people have a

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Speaker 1: hard time with this in regular society. And if you're

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Speaker 1: let's just say call you a civilian, if you're a lawyer,

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Speaker 1: a doctor, cop, bartender, clerk at a convenience store, whatever,

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Speaker 1: your receptionist, you screw up to the extent that the

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Speaker 1: Bills screwed that up that thirteen seconds up there, you

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Speaker 1: get fired some places. Here's the here's the difference. There

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Speaker 1: isn't guys that are in this wear the helmet with

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Speaker 1: the charging buffalo on the side, and all the other teams.

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Speaker 1: They don't fall off trees, they don't come. They can't

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Speaker 1: get another receptionist in there. They can't get another clerk

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Speaker 1: to stand at the counter at the convenience store. They

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Speaker 1: can't get another door. Your not as replace. They can't

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Speaker 1: replace that guy. And not only that, if they cut

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Speaker 1: that guy or kick him to the curb, and you

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Speaker 1: got a guy like josh Anistander, they're going, why are

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Speaker 1: you doing that? What? What are you doing that guy?

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Speaker 1: You know, he knows the value of the guy just

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Speaker 1: as much as anybody. You lose that guy now he

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Speaker 1: doesn't like you. Now there's a riff there. You got

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Speaker 1: guys going out there and like Tredavius White goes out

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Speaker 1: there and blows his knee for you, and then you

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna release and then cut the guy

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Speaker 1: or cut somebody else, And Tardavius White's looking at you

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Speaker 1: like you know what, that's that's bunk. Get me out

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Speaker 1: of here. Yeah, yeah, that's what happens. A whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of ripple effects that could come off as something. So

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Speaker 1: I get the media saying, oh, he's dodging the question.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't know that doesn't want to. Yeah, no kidding.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason, because you got human relationships and people

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Speaker 1: that are who have to live their lives, and people

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Speaker 1: that are important to the success of the franchise going forward,

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Speaker 1: whether yeah, they're important to the franchise going forward, whether

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Speaker 1: they make a mistake like that or not. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get back to the phones and try to move on.

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Speaker 1: Here we go to Jack and Rochester. Next, Jack, what

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Speaker 1: do you have for us? You're on one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Early in the game on Sunday, Kansas City was in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's red zone driving for a touchdown and I think

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Speaker 1: I was first down and Kansas City got called for

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Speaker 1: an illegal man down field, and the announcers Romo and

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Speaker 1: Nance were kind of at a loss to kind of

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Speaker 1: explain technically what the Bills were trying to do in

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Speaker 1: that situation by declining the penalty. So I'm wondering if

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Speaker 1: you remember that play and have any thoughts. I do.

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Speaker 1: I kind and I thought too. The only thing I

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Speaker 1: could think of was they're playing and I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: yes or no. I kind of I kind of get it.

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Speaker 1: They put it to second down. Yeah, it was they

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Speaker 1: chose the down because I don't chose it was an incompletion.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm sure it was. It was an incompletion

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Speaker 1: where Mahomes threw it away or got pushed out abound

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Speaker 1: or whatever it was. It brought up a second and

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Speaker 1: ten thirteen, okay, And I think they just wanted to

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Speaker 1: get one more, one less down because it would have

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Speaker 1: been first and fifteen from the eighteen. That's not a

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Speaker 1: big enough penalty for me. I take a guy that

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Speaker 1: can throw it anywhere on because if you get a

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Speaker 1: stop on second down and third down, it's their field

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Speaker 1: goal in it. If you don't, they score. So I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Jack, I think that's why they did it.

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Speaker 1: They didn't want to give them Homes another snap. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was more about reducing the number of opportunities the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs would have at the end zone. So let's go

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Speaker 1: to second down and forget about a penalty. That's going

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Speaker 1: to mean five yards of nothingness. And I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 1: that's an analytics move. It's the right move, though, five

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Speaker 1: yards at that area if they're still less than the

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Speaker 1: number of chances you have to score. It's not like

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Speaker 1: going from forty like a fifty yard field goal to

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Speaker 1: a fifty five yard field goal, right, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: like a chip shot, it's like an extra point. So

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Speaker 1: I think in chi and I remember that, Jack, thanks

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Speaker 1: for calling. I remember that they did decline. And that's

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Speaker 1: nothing but analytics. That's going to statistically right decision. Second

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Speaker 1: and ten from the thirteen gives you this percentage of

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Speaker 1: touchdown to touchdown. A field goal. First and fifteen from

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Speaker 1: the eighteen gives you this and they just said that,

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Speaker 1: give me the second and ten. Yeah, I'm one of

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Speaker 1: the most explosive offenses in football. If you can give

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Speaker 1: them one less crack at the end zone, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: take that over five yards any day of the week.

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Speaker 1: Down there, I think, down there that close. Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: all right, we have to take a break here, but

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Speaker 1: when we come back, more of your phone call. So

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Speaker 1: those of you holding an eight o three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty stay where you are. We'll get to you in

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Speaker 1: the next segment. Also want to remind you that coming

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Speaker 1: up in about a half an hour thirty minutes from

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Speaker 1: now will be Josh Allen's offseason quarterback trainer. Jordan Palmer

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Speaker 1: will be joining us for the second hour of the show.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to miss that interview. We'll have him

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Speaker 1: on with us in the second hour of the program.

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Speaker 1: Here on One Bills Live, present a Lot of health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: jump right back on the phone lines and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go out to Gary in Las Vegas. What do you

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Speaker 1: have for us, Gary or on One Bills Live. Yeah, guys,

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Speaker 1: you keep saying that he didn't throw the coach had

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Speaker 1: didn't throw anyone under the bus, but actually he did

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Speaker 1: throw everyone under the bus. Just left it up to

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Speaker 1: us to figure out who it was. I figure out

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Speaker 1: head coach would take responsibility for that. And I love

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Speaker 1: that Steve went after Hugh Brownie and Thurman yesterday about it.

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Speaker 1: If we had don in that game we were to won,

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Speaker 1: we won the game. All they had to do is

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Speaker 1: not play prebend defense and get ahold of the the summon

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Speaker 1: and throw him down. And that's what I think would

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Speaker 1: have happened in the game we had won. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: get it, and yeah, I'll say as far as McDermott

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Speaker 1: not throw throwing everybody under the bus. He put it

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Speaker 1: on himself right after that. Yeah, he says, I got

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Speaker 1: a coach better starts with me. All that. I get it,

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Speaker 1: But you know, here's the thing, and right after the game,

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Speaker 1: after a gut wrenching loss like that, um, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to get a straight answer out of anything, even even

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Speaker 1: on the good side. So UM yeah, you just gonna

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Speaker 1: have keep your mind or we may never know what

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Speaker 1: happened on that play. We probably will years down the

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Speaker 1: road when nobody cares anymore. But um yeah. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: for the record, Steve and I both on this show said,

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Speaker 1: you know, getting up in the faces of those Chiefs

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Speaker 1: offensive players probably would have been the better approach. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody felt that what was executed on

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Speaker 1: the final two defensive plays was a great idea because

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Speaker 1: of what happened. I think I think that's readily apparent

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Speaker 1: to anybody who watched the game. So you know, we're

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Speaker 1: not saying like, well, if you just had this, it

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Speaker 1: would have been fine. You know, I think we all

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Speaker 1: saw it for what it was, and it's just unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, it's the wrong call at the wrong time.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones. We go to Jeff Inferdonia. Next, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: you're on one bills live. What do you have for us? Hey? Guys,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? We're doing all right? Hey. I

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Speaker 1: was just kind of wandering a couple of things here.

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Speaker 1: First to comment, I wanted to make and you know,

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Speaker 1: we could talk about it later. I wanted to find

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Speaker 1: out I'm not I can't blame the defense for what

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Speaker 1: happened the other day. Yeah, it was chicking a gut

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Speaker 1: for everybody. I'm not gonna blame the defense. It's crazy

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Speaker 1: as this may sound, I'm gonna blame the whole entire

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Speaker 1: team because at one time there was a game called

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville that they just totally blew it where if they

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Speaker 1: would have put a shot of water, I get it,

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Speaker 1: if they would have won that game, they'd have been tied,

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Speaker 1: and that game would have been here in Buffalo and

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Speaker 1: it might have been a lot different. Now, my other

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Speaker 1: thing I was wondering about. Now, again, this might be crazy,

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Speaker 1: but as I was looking at the film, I had

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Speaker 1: noticed that Kelsey just came right off that line and

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Speaker 1: you could see where Mahomes and Kelsey they were just

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Speaker 1: playing catch, and I mean, holy cow, I mean what

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Speaker 1: I what I was wondering. I'm not playing armchair quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just kind of wondering, what did you guys think?

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Speaker 1: What if, just what if you had your four men rushing,

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Speaker 1: which they did, Chuck Tremaine Edmunds in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the you know fact they're in the middle, keep an

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Speaker 1: eye in the homes and while and while Kelsey and

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Speaker 1: who else tyreek Hill are going out, bring somebody up.

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Speaker 1: I don't care who it is. Dame Jackson, whoever Wallace

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Speaker 1: holds both of them right at the line, hold them

638
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: and that way at least, and what's gonna happen. He's

639
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: gonna be scrambling for his life, and we're gonna have Edmunds.

640
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: They're watching everywhere he goes. We can kind of maybe

641
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: keep a close eye on him. We're gonna get a

642
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: five yard penalty, but we're gonna lose it. They're gonna

643
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: only get five yards. You're gonna starting about thirties and

644
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: they're all gonna have about six seconds block. All they

645
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: can really do is try a hell, Jeff, Jeff, I

646
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: just wonder what you think, Jeff, that is only one

647
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: of a hundred things they could have done better or

648
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: different they would have made a difference. Yeah, anything other

649
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: than what they suggested. Yeah, everybody. Everybody knows they could

650
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: not have played the worst defensive alignment than they did.

651
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: And uh, there you have it. I mean you're right,

652
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: that's yeah. We gotta live with it, gotta gear our

653
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: minds around. And it's so simple. Um, you don't have

654
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: to be you don't have to watch the film or

655
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: anything or go back and even study it to realize,

656
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, how badly they played those last two plays. Um,

657
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: there you have it. There's just no way around it. Yeah,

658
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: let's go to Alan Washington next, Al, what do you

659
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: have for us? You're all one Bill's life. Yeah, Hi, guys, Um,

660
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm the you know what's it called? Get off the

661
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: pass and towards the future kind of here. And I

662
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: saw Dan Quinn staying with the Cowboys, and I know

663
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: Brian Dable is a Western York native, and I love

664
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: the guy. I want the best for him. I want

665
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: him to get a head coaching job. But I mean,

666
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: what would the likely champie that he stays with Buffalo

667
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: and continues and and he looks at next season an

668
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: option to get into a coaching position. I repoment you, guys. Yeah,

669
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean this question about he's curious as to the

670
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: likelihood of Dable staying put and going into the coaching

671
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: hiring cycle next year. There's always a possibility he's not

672
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: gone until he's gone, right, And it's hard for us

673
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: to climb into the head of Brian Dable to know

674
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: what kind of situation he's willing to accept, Like if

675
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: he if he hates Daniel Jones and Joe Shane has

676
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: no intention of drafting a quarterback this spring, that might

677
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: not be an attractive job to him. Yes, everybody knows

678
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: that he worked very closely with Tua for a year

679
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: at Alabama and they won the national championship when they

680
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: put him in the game in the second half. But

681
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: does he like him as an NFL quarterback? Does he

682
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: believe he's a franchise player that's gonna beat Josh Allen

683
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: twice a year every season. If not, he may not

684
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: like that job. We don't know what he's thinking. He

685
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: may be patient enough. He was a finalist for the

686
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: job last year or two years ago, and last year

687
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: for the Chargers. For the Chargers and two years ago

688
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: for Cleveland. Yeah, I don't know that he turned those

689
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: jobs down or whether he wasn't the right guy whatever,

690
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: until we were here. Differently, there's no reason to think

691
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: he's just gonna take the first opportunity, no matter why. So, yeah,

692
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: there's a possibility he might politely decline an offer if

693
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: things aren't going to be the way he thinks they

694
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: need to be to win games. He might do that. Certainly,

695
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: he's smart enough to know what he's gonna need to

696
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: do and what he's gonna need to have in place,

697
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: and it'll be different if he goes to Miami and

698
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: New York. Then it is here in Buffalo, because Buffalo's

699
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: got that guy. You know, Buffalo's got Josh, and they've

700
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: got you know, they've already built up what they need

701
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: and they you know, they drafted correctly. If the draft

702
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: process is in place in the next place he goes to,

703
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: whereas in New York or Miami or wherever else he

704
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: is interviewing, then he may take it if they can

705
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: convince him that they can build something that he can

706
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: replicate here in Buffalo, Right, But if they're not. Yeah,

707
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: and don't think for a second that he doesn't weigh

708
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: the whole burden the hand too. In the bush thing,

709
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: he will weigh what he has here in Buffalo against

710
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: a head coaching opportunity somewhere else in the league. He's

711
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: got one of the two or three best quarterbacks in

712
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: football here, So if a head coaching job is not

713
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: ideal as far as he sees it and what he

714
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: can build, and doesn't want to run the risk of

715
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: being a one and done or a two and done

716
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: head coach, he might buy his time here for another

717
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: year and see if the hiring cycle or the opportunities

718
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: in the league look better next year. He may, Yeah,

719
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: he may. He's not out of the realm of possibility

720
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: about this too. If if he did decide to pooh

721
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: pooh as head coaching opportunity for whatever, for multiple reasons

722
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: here this year, if he has a multiple opportunities, he's

723
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: going to get even more attractive if this team wins

724
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: a championship, either a conference championship or World's championship. Even

725
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: more so if they win a couple, or win a

726
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: couple of conference championships, or keep going to the play

727
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, keep doing this, having this

728
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: prolific offense, He's not going to become less attractive, right,

729
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: And it's custom. I mean he's you know, I mean

730
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: he's they're making he's making a good buck here in

731
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo doing what he's doing. So it's not like he's

732
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: worried about you know, and there's no reason to pay

733
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: the recess would not continue with the quarterback he has, right,

734
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: And I'll see that's the end of all beyond that's

735
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, the total package. I mean, maybe

736
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: some of it is that he wants to be a

737
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: head coach, Maybe some of it is financial, maybe some

738
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: of it is prestige. But there's something to be said

739
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: for knowing where you're at and how good it is

740
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: and the security of being here over rolling the dice

741
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: for big money and bombing out and then where you're

742
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: gonna be. Yeah, let's go back to the phones. We

743
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: go to Greg and Amhurst. What do you have first? Greg,

744
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: well fellas. Nevertheless, it was a failure in my opinion

745
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: of at the proportion and something has to happen somewhere.

746
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: I think the team's going to be really deflated next year.

747
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: Those may have been the two easiest completions Mahomes had

748
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: all year. It was like the parting of the red

749
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: sea in the middle of the field was It was

750
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: just like there was nobody there, which which bags the

751
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: question where was Tremaine Edmund's who often gets criticized for

752
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: covering the open field. I mean, look, I don't know, Greg.

753
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: I know you want to all the players. You can't

754
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: blame all the coaches, but something has to happen. Well, look,

755
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: the bottom line is this, Greg, Okay, they were playing

756
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: a defense that was clearly a prevent style. They were

757
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: guarding against the sidelines. That seems to be a little misguided.

758
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: Knowing that the Chiefs had three timeouts and could stop

759
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: the clock at their leisures, so they had use of

760
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: the whole field. That's number one, Number two, Steve and I.

761
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: In the amount of times that we've mulled this over,

762
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: this is just our opinion. We don't know anything. But

763
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: with thirteen seconds left, I think the people that were

764
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: calling the shots genuinely believed that was not enough time

765
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs to get in field goal range and

766
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: played conservatively because of it. Now, obviously we all know

767
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: now that was a misguided approach. So that's just the

768
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: way it went. It was. It was an unfortunate call

769
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: and an unfortunate time, and it was a big part

770
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: of costing in the football game. We don't want to

771
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: nobody likes it. It was a yes, you're right, it

772
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: was a failure of epic proportions, no question. They couldn't

773
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: get it done. Now, you know they're playing against a

774
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: really good team, but still you would laugh at the

775
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: opportunity to be in that spot thinking you could win

776
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: the game. And I know, I know people want heads

777
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: to roll, they want people's head on a platter. I

778
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: get the frustration, you know, I was just as disappointed

779
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: as everybody else out there. But you cannot knee jerk

780
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: react to a set of circumstances that are a very

781
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: small portion of the job done here by coaches and

782
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: players over the last five years. And I know it

783
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: was a big game, it was the most important game

784
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: of the year, and it cost them potentially an opportunity

785
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl, and that's what stings the most.

786
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: But you know, Leslie Frazier, I mean, the guy had

787
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: the number one defense in football, not only in total yardage,

788
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: but scoring, third down past defense, completion percentage, against all

789
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: of that stuff. It's a bitter it's when you hear

790
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: all that, it's bitter to think about how good they

791
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: were and then to have that happen to their defense

792
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the year and beat and have

793
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: it totally come apart like that at the very end.

794
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: But here's the thing as well, and one of the

795
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: things you said, the caller said was that you know

796
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: something's got to be done because it's so deflating, it's

797
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: going to carry out. This is not going to carry

798
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: over into the next year. In fact, it's gonna it'll

799
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: fuel them to better. Positive. This is not gonna have

800
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: like a woe is me attitude about going. They're not

801
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: gonna be They're not gonna wake up the morning go

802
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I gotta go in self pity at

803
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: all over this. They're gonna be looking forward to another

804
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: chance to make it right, um, just like they were

805
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: this year with a disappointment of the AFC Championship Game

806
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: a year ago. So don't think this is gonna have

807
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: a hangover for Bills fans. You're you're it's gonna be

808
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: a long time before you get over this, And it'll

809
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 1: take a game further and more wins past this point

810
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: to get you to forget about it, because then when

811
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: you do, if you do ever hoisted Lombardi Trophy, you're

812
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: gonna be saying this is part of the reason you

813
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: were able to get there. That's the only time it

814
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: smooths over. And if you can't, you'll always kind of

815
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: hang onto it. So yeah, no question fail of epic proportions. Uh,

816
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: in a game that you played in a triumphant way

817
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: that got zero reward for it, and that's you know,

818
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: that's a tragic and to that to that game. Um,

819
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: even the Chiefs were resigned to the fact that it

820
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: was going to take a miracle, but they got it.

821
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Freak time for us. We're back with more phone calls

822
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: next year on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned. It's awesome.

823
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: Oh I love it. I love these overtime rules that

824
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: are flying around on social media. Some of these are fantastic.

825
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: We'll get into some of those in the second hour

826
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: of the show. In the meantime, we got to get

827
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: back to your phone calls. We go to Frank in

828
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: Williamsville next. What do you have for us? Frank? Hey, guys,

829
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: Steve Um, I still haven't gotten over homework home wearing throwback.

830
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: I mean you were in that No, he was retired.

831
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: I remember it well and I we've gotten over it

832
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,479
Speaker 1: either here second year my retirement. That's the only time

833
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: after I retired that I thought I would have made

834
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: a difference on a game put in a lottery and

835
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: watching the ticket blow away in the wind um. Anyway,

836
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about the particulars that a play,

837
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: but I would like to just mention that I think

838
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: somebody should enough to say, look at it, here's what happened.

839
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: The fans love these guys. We're not gonna go to

840
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: kick the kickers house and throw rocks to his house

841
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: because he missed. He was supposed to kick the thing

842
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: short and hekt it long. I mean, as far as

843
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: that goes, I think that they're not given the fans

844
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: that the credit that we deserve after following the sea

845
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: for so long and the relationship we have with the

846
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: fans and the home of the whole lot Yeah, but

847
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: you know what, Frank, you're in. You're in the vast

848
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: majority of Bills fans. I would agree with you that

849
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: the vast majority of Bills fans, But there's also a

850
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: minority that you kind of got to worry about. A

851
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, yeah, people, Yeah, you can ask you

852
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: real quick, Um, how do you get faster? You can't

853
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: teach speed. They obviously they're lacking speed to compete with

854
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I don't know about every other team. To

855
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: leave it, it's definitely easy to see to the eye

856
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: that they can't control the Chiefs speed. Now, hide and

857
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: player our guys. We're not going to replace them, and

858
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: they're not gonna get faster. So what do you do

859
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: next year to get them better to beat these guys?

860
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: One other things that they take bad angles to the

861
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: bass area, maybe because of the guys go fast, but

862
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: what two steps in the wrong direction and the guys

863
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: and they're gone and they're scoring. Um, I'm kitty draft speed.

864
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: How do you think you're the team faster? Here's the thing, Frank, Yeah,

865
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: I get you where you're saying, Frank, But don't view

866
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: the chief don't view this as anything other than what

867
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: it was. It was a great game. The Bills made

868
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: mistakes to win it, to lose it at the end.

869
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: Egregious mistakes, no question, mistakes that were easily avoidable, but

870
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: they still did it. The Bills are good enough to

871
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs, right now speed or no speed, they're

872
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: right now. And I'm telling you this. They were good

873
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: enough last year. If they'd played their game in the

874
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: championship game last year, they'd have gone to the super

875
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: Bowl last year. You don't have to do anything different.

876
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: They're drafting right, they're they're developing their young players right.

877
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: They've got the right philosophee. They certainly have the right

878
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: quarterback in place. They've had the right coordinators in place

879
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: as well, although I don't know that that's gonna change.

880
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: And I think if you're gonna ask me what they

881
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: need to do first thing in the offseason, which is

882
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: our question today, it is this, get your coordinators sorted

883
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: out if you're gonna stay awesome. But if they're not,

884
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't just think it's a done deal to say, okay,

885
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: you're up. You're next from inside, like you know in

886
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: a web or or the quarterback coaching doors, Ken Dorsey

887
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: moving up. It could be somebody else from another another

888
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: club coming over. I would be fine with that. I

889
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: think that's the most important thing is make sure you

890
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: keep on doing exactly what you're doing, because you're good

891
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: enough to do it right now. You're you're good enough

892
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. Now, with the speed you

893
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: got on the team, you don't have to. Yeah, you

894
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: don't have to. You don't need some magic elixir. Speed

895
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: would help though, because Frank's worried about them taking bad

896
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: angles to the ball. They're not taking bad angles. They

897
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: out rather just taking angles at the fastest people in football,

898
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: and they outrun angles. Well. You can have the most

899
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: fundamentally sound defense. If you don't have enough speed, you're

900
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: never catching those guys. I'd like them to add a

901
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: little bit of speed on the defensive side of the ball.

902
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: And Coach McDermot, when I asked him that question said,

903
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: it's a valid point. Will look to add some So

904
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: I think it will happen to the degree that it

905
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: would flip the tables. I don't know, but more speed

906
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: would help. I have to believe it will help, provided

907
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: it's contained within a player that plays sound fundamental defense.

908
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: If you have speed to add on top of that,

909
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: it should help to what degree. You have to wait

910
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: and see next year when you get a crack at

911
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: the Chiefs again. Great time for US. Jordan Palmer, Josh

912
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: Allen's offseason quarterback trainer coming up next year. On one

913
00:49:47,080 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: Bill's Live stay tuned at a Steve Tasker who has

914
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: been all over the field. Kind of unique. He was

915
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve

916
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the strategyre of normalcy

917
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: all right now, we're number two here on a Thursday,

918
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Please to be joined

919
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: now by the man who runs the QB Summit out

920
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: in sunny California and has a summer tour starting which

921
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: you can check out at QB summitcamp dot com. It

922
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: is Josh Allen's offseason quarterback trainer. It is Jordan Palmer

923
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: joining us on the show. Jordan, thanks for giving us

924
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: some time here. I'm sure, much like you, we were

925
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: hoping to still be watching Josh playing on a football

926
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: field in the AFC title Game, which would have been

927
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: played here. Bill's fans are still having a hard time

928
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: getting over that. But I guess the first first thing

929
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: we should do is thank you for sending Josh a

930
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: motivational text right before, right before the wild card game.

931
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: Congratulations on doing what it takes to become a Pro

932
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: Bowl alternate. I mean, you know how to really stick

933
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: put a stick in his eye, better than anybody man.

934
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: So good on you for doing that, because he went

935
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: out and played the perfect game against New England a

936
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: few weeks ago. He tell you that or something. No,

937
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: Peter King had it in his weekly column. Oh he did, Okay. Yeah,

938
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: but this is a guy who's gotten used to that

939
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: chip being on his shoulder, and I don't know that

940
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: he needs it, but I think it's helpful. And so

941
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: whether I'm reminding him congratulating on him on the top

942
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: one hundred, on being the tenth best quarterback or the

943
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: tenth best player in the league, congrats on breaking the

944
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: top ten, which just probably pisces him off, and we're

945
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: being a Pro Bowl alternate, or being one of the

946
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the those types of thing just fire

947
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: him up. So um, yeah, I think there's a role

948
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: that that I can play throughout the year. And and

949
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: sometimes that's just simply stoking the fire. Yeah, you've you've

950
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: been on his You've obviously coached him at a close

951
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: level for a couple of years now. You've always told us,

952
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, he's the most physically gifted quarterback in the league. Now,

953
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: with the two games he played against New England here

954
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, the one in Foxborough

955
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: and then this one and the at the in the

956
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: playoffs a wildcard. The level that he was playing at

957
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: in just those two games and then the Chiefs game

958
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: was unbelievable as well. Where do you see I mean,

959
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: I told Brownie, I think maybe consistency. He's he's got

960
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: to the point where he's consistent throughout four quarters. He's

961
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: taken the easy shot easier and quicker. Now he you know,

962
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: he gets takes the check down, takes the easy completion

963
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: a little quicker than he did. But I'm telling you

964
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: what those three games, this the divisional round, the wildcard round,

965
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: and the third the second game against the PA the Steeler,

966
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 1: the Patriots in Foxborough. I've never seen a quarterback play

967
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: at that level that he did in those three games.

968
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: It was absolutely amazing. And what's next, Well, I think

969
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: it started the second half of Tampa, to be honest,

970
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: And I know the Atlanta game, we all wanted to

971
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: see a blowout and it wasn't. And there's some weather

972
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: and stuff, but um, yeah, he's just he's just evolving.

973
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: Um you know, I think when quarterbacks are younger, they're

974
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: developing and then once you get to a place where

975
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: you're pretty developed, then it's just what are you going

976
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: to evolve your game too? And Steve, just to correct

977
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: you a little bit, I actually said that he's the

978
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: most physically gifted athlete to ever play the possession, right.

979
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: I said that in an interview with Sports Illustrated, and

980
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: then that got clipped and put on social media, and

981
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: I said it I think two years ago. Now. I

982
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: set it behind closed doors during draft prep, but I

983
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: said it in the media, and I got a lot

984
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: of flak for it. I guess, I don't know. I

985
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: don't even go on Twitter, but a bunch of people,

986
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, said stuf about it, and I think that's

987
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: probably that statement's probably looking a lot more accurate right

988
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: now when we see him run the way that he does,

989
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: not just he's you know, he's not breaking big runs

990
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: because everyone fell and he's fast. He's creating these runs, right,

991
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 1: He's cutting back, he's setting up blocks, he's a runner.

992
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: And then we see the throws that he makes, and

993
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: then we see just physically where he is, you know,

994
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 1: being probably close to two fifty two forty five whatever

995
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: he is, and sixty five and so and then with

996
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: the arms. So I do believe like that we've never

997
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: seen an athlete like this at this position. People who

998
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 1: want to say that well Cam Newton, No, Cam Newton

999
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: never had any point through it and had this type

1000
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: of control on the ball. Cam Newton was not as

1001
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: good a runner in my opinion, and was never as

1002
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: fast as Josh is right now at top end speed.

1003
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: So I really do think that he's the best athlete

1004
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: to ever play the position. He's developed a lot the

1005
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: last few years, Ken Dorsey, Brian Dable, all these people

1006
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: that have been played a huge role in his development.

1007
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: But now when he's really evolving to really the last

1008
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,959
Speaker 1: two years, would I try and talk about not to

1009
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: give away trade secrets, but is the theme for us

1010
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: two years has really been about control and so we

1011
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: got to control three things. As a quarterback. When you're

1012
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: at the level that he's at, you've got to control

1013
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: the ball. That's not just accuracy. That's the tempo on

1014
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: the ball, right through the ball really hard in college. Okay,

1015
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: So that's controlling the football. Is is the where it

1016
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: ends up from an accuracy standpoint, the tempo that we

1017
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: put on it, the trajectory that we put underneath it.

1018
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: We don't just put trajectory under deep balls, put trajectory

1019
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: under all sorts of throws, so that control right and

1020
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: then be able to control in the elements. The second

1021
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: thing we got to control is on the mental side

1022
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: of things. Now, he's incredibly intelligent. He picks things up

1023
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: really quickly. I'm sure you guys have heard story after

1024
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 1: story of how smart this kid is or whatever. So

1025
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: he's gotten really in control of that offense, I think

1026
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: pretty early on, and I think it speaks to him,

1027
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: but it speaks to the type of teacher that Brian

1028
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: Dable is. I think he's a fantastic teacher. So that's

1029
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: the part of it. He's got to control Mentally. The

1030
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: biggest issue that we've seen since he really found his

1031
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: stroke and got really accurate, The biggest issue we've seen

1032
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 1: the last you know, up until last year, was controlling

1033
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: your emotions and getting too fired up, wanting it too bad,

1034
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: fighting to create a play that's maybe not there to

1035
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 1: be made right now, whether it's the Houston playoff game,

1036
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: taking sacks, trying to make a play last year. We

1037
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: saw that creep up early on in his career. When

1038
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: he would roll right, he would throw some incredible throws,

1039
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: he would throw some interceptions, he would take a bunch

1040
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: of unnecessary hits, and he'd get kind of get away

1041
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: with a couple because they get batted down. What we've

1042
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: seen is the evolution of him and how well he

1043
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: controls his emotions in the game. That last game versus

1044
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: Kansas City is the example. Never at any point did

1045
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: his face change, Never at any point did he freak out.

1046
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: He was just in complete control of his emotions, which

1047
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: allowed him to be in control of his decision making.

1048
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: I think he played really eight quarters of perfect football

1049
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: and then allowed him to control the ball and just

1050
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: be accurate. So that's been the lynchpin for him to

1051
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: long answer here, the final answer to your question, where

1052
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: do we go from here? I don't know. I don't

1053
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: think he's ever entered into a season in complete control

1054
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: of the ball and complete control of his decision making,

1055
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: and more importantly, in complete control of his emotions, no

1056
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: matter how big the moment is with those reps in

1057
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: that experience, I don't know. I think we'd see him

1058
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: in the Super next year. What happens if Brian Dable

1059
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: is no longer part of the conversation talk walk through

1060
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: us about like the best case scenario for transition with

1061
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator and worst case, Well, I know,

1062
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't know a whole lot what's going on in

1063
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: that building and and all that. I don't know what's

1064
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 1: my information to share, but I'll just say this, if

1065
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: Brian Dable leaves, it's not going to catch a bunch

1066
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: of people off guard. It's not going to go wait

1067
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: what I mean he was interviewing last year, right, And

1068
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: so I don't know what the plan is. You know,

1069
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: that's not that's not my role or conversation to have.

1070
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: But but I do know this, if there was like

1071
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: a room, but there's a group of like two or

1072
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: three general managers in this league that I trust to

1073
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: make a super important decision and have it be executed

1074
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: correctly and get the person that you want to do

1075
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: the thing you want them to do. Brandon Bean's first, second,

1076
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: or third on that list for me. So I do

1077
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: know they've had plenty of time to prepare for this,

1078
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: and I do know that the people in that building,

1079
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: starting with Brandon on down, are people who have just

1080
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: they're on a little hot streaker of making fantastic decisions

1081
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: consecutively and then Jordan, you know, you mentioned control of

1082
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: his emotions, and for me, I always thought that was

1083
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: probably his last hurdle and he seemed to be his

1084
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: own worst enemy with that, because how he's hyper competitive.

1085
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: He's not just competitive, he's hyper COMPETI I mean, like

1086
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: he wants to get it all every time. And I

1087
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: thought that that sometimes worked against him in keeping those

1088
00:58:55,560 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: emotions in check. How did he make that transformation late

1089
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: in the year here to fully capture that, because sometimes

1090
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: when they would fall behind early, like you know, you're

1091
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: in a tend nothing hole, you could almost see him saying,

1092
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta make a play, I gotta make

1093
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: something happen. I got you know what I mean, And

1094
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: that that even Keel sometimes would get compromised, even if

1095
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: it was just for a series, and he seemed to

1096
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: push that aside, and all of a sudden it clicked

1097
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 1: for him where his emotional state you know, was right there,

1098
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: you know, flatlined all the way, not in a bad way,

1099
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: but to kind of keep him apprized of everything he's

1100
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: responsible for. Why did it change here late in the

1101
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: year What was the key? Do you think, Well, you've

1102
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: got to get reps at that and let's say that

1103
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: we're out here throwing in the offseason. I can't simulate

1104
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: an experience that he that makes him ultra competitive and

1105
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: makes him feel like he has to he's gonna die

1106
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: or he's gonna win this. I just can't create that environment, right,

1107
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: that really only and coach coach can't create that on

1108
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: the practice field either. And so you know, I could

1109
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: trying to simulate it in golf and say, hey, if

1110
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: you missed this put, you have to do X y Z,

1111
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: But again, that's not it. And so you only get

1112
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: those reps on game day, and you actually only get

1113
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: those reps on important games. I don't know that you

1114
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: can get him to a place where he feels that

1115
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: way versus to get any quarterback to a place where

1116
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: they feel that type of pressure, that type of need

1117
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: to win. When you're playing Atlanta, like it kind of

1118
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: has to happen versus the Patriots, it's kind of got

1119
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: to happen versus the Chiefs. It's kind of got to

1120
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: happen first Bengal, Like, it's got to happen versus a

1121
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: good teams. So you get a limited set of reps,

1122
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: and so you know, as we talk, it's really, how

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Speaker 1: do we take advantage of those reps to get better

1124
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: at control? So I don't coach anybody, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: coaching him on mechanics during the season, just talk about

1126
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: the control. How are we getting better at that? And

1127
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: the complete control of your emotions, the ball and your

1128
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: decision making. And so I just think that really played

1129
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Speaker 1: out here towards the end of the season for two reasons. One,

1130
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: because he's been cognizant of it. He's been thinking about it.

1131
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's had countless conversations, whether it be with

1132
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: the coaches, whether it be with Trubisky, Barkley the year before.

1133
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: Just he's a football guy that heads football conversations. The

1134
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: second part of it, though, why maybe this has panned

1135
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: out late in the season, is the second element of

1136
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: that is trusting other people around you to make plays.

1137
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: And whether it's you know, having I think it was

1138
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: Diggs was out, but then Isaiah McKenzie steps up right,

1139
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: or you know, different running backs. Breta came in and

1140
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: made an impact. The defense got some takeaways. You think

1141
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: about that Chiefs game in Week five, the defense had

1142
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: two takeaways. Those weren't bad throws by Mahomes those were takeaways.

1143
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: They took it away. Player didn't need to take that

1144
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: ball off his hands and score. It would have been

1145
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: easy to not pick that off. He picked it off

1146
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: and created a turnover and points. And Bissard created that

1147
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: turnover that he tipped to himself. So I think it's

1148
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: a combination of his development and evolution and also continuing

1149
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: to trust the guys around him. And there's you know what,

1150
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: that's a good team. They don't they don't need their

1151
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: quarterback to make a play every play. Sometimes that screen

1152
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: or that's gonna work. Sometimes that checkdown is gonna get fifteen.

1153
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes that run play is gonna get a fresh set

1154
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: of downs. Sometimes defense is going to get a takeaway.

1155
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: So I just think it's a combination of those two things,

1156
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: his evolution and then also him continuing and learning how

1157
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: to trust in all those pieces around him. I've made

1158
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: the assertion that even last year at the AFC Championship

1159
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: Game in Kansas City, and of course this year when

1160
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: they had the game all but one before it went away,

1161
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: that this team is good enough right now on any

1162
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: given Sunday or Saturday or Monday or Thursday, to beat

1163
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: anybody in the league with the crew they've got now

1164
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: and they were last year as well, But you gotta

1165
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: play well on game day, and with Josh playing at

1166
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: this level, you know, we're you know, after a game

1167
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: that goes the way this last game did for Buffalo,

1168
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: you're getting all these people like, you gotta do that,

1169
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: you gotta do this, you gotta do that, you gotta

1170
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: do This team doesn't need to do anything different than

1171
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: what it has been doing over the last five years,

1172
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: because that's what got him to this point and there

1173
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: they are an unbelievable football team. I don't and I'm

1174
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: asking you, do you see anything they need to do

1175
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: differently than what they've been doing for four or five

1176
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: years and going forward than they haven't done to this point. Yes,

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01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: there's a massive thing they have to do better next year,

1178
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: and it's going to start at the beginning of the

1179
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: off season. They have to play that game in Orchard Park,

1180
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: which means they cannot play down to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1181
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: They cannot play down. I was at that Tennessee game.

1182
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 1: They cannot play There's two drives in that Tennessee game

1183
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: where just missed so they kicks feel goal. Well, okay,

1184
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: you can't kick feel goals. So they cannot play down

1185
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: to any competition next year. So getting that whatever it

1186
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: is locked in mentally out of place where every single

1187
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: week feels like New England. So whoever, I haven't looked

1188
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: at their schedule, I don't know, but they can't play

1189
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: down to Jacksonville, they can't play down to Tennessee. They

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01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: can't play down to the Steelers. It's gonna be what

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01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: they do in September and October, because we to your point, Steve,

1192
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: we kind of know how they play in December and January.

1193
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: They need to play that way in September. This should

1194
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: be we we say things like, oh, this should be

1195
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: a super Bowl team, or this is a super Bowl team.

1196
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: I look at it, like, hold on, before you talk

1197
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: about playoffs, you know this should be a fourteen and

1198
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: three team, right, because that should probably lock up the

1199
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: number one seed. And so I think it really comes

1200
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: down to doing the simple things correctly and being able

1201
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: to get across the board. Everybody to play at the

1202
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: level they can each week. And again, Brandon being speak

1203
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: highly about him all the time, but I think Sean

1204
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: mcgimmer's the kind of guy that, hey, he's gonna get

1205
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: their attention. Hey, all this stuff we're talking about, guys

1206
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: play you know, we're playing a lesser opponent. Somebody's doesn't

1207
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: ever win. All that stuff I've talked about one week

1208
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: at a time. Treat it all the same. Well, now

1209
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: everybody in that locker room, coaching staff included, it has

1210
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: some context for just how important that Jacksonville Jaguars game

1211
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: was an AFC game early in the year. You have

1212
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: to win that game. And so I think he's got

1213
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: everybody's He'll have everybody's attention, and the leaders on that

1214
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: team are going to step up, and so that's the

1215
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: thing they have to do different. Yeah, we can talk

1216
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: about you know, squib kick or how to play you know,

1217
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: prevent defense all day, but the reality is that game

1218
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been in Kansas City on a year when

1219
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: Kansas City did the same thing, played down early to

1220
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: competition in the year. So Jordan, we talked to Josh,

1221
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, his season rapp a press conference the other day,

1222
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: and he talked about, you know, taking a couple of

1223
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: weeks off and then getting back out there with you

1224
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: and the one thing he mentioned was, you know, getting

1225
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: his mechanics right. You mentioned that, you know, he's evolving.

1226
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: There's a there's a strong foundation to you know, his

1227
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: abilities as a quarterback now based in part on his

1228
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: training with you every offseason. But he mentioned mechanics again,

1229
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: So are we talking at his stage in his career

1230
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: now purely refinement of those mechanics. I mean we're not

1231
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: you're not building him from the ground up anymore. We're

1232
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 1: talking where he's in the refinement stage, right, gracts. Yeah,

1233
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: So last offseason there was a type of throw in

1234
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: particular um that that was you know for him. You know,

1235
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: you're breaking down an NFL season where somebody completed seventy

1236
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: percent of their balls. You're not seeing a ton of

1237
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: things to work on. And so but we had found

1238
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: something without how he was hitching and climbing in the

1239
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: pocket on a specific throw, specific trajectory, there was an

1240
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: opportunity from a mechanical standpoint, and it was I believe

1241
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: when it comes to throwing mechanics, the issues that quarterbacks have,

1242
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: it's in the movement that precedes the throw. It's not

1243
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: necessarily the throwing motion. So when we talk about pitchers

1244
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: versus quarterbacks, pitchers don't move before they throw, they don't

1245
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: transfer weight before they throw, they just push off the

1246
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,959
Speaker 1: mountain and go. Quarterbacks have all sorts of movements before

1247
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: they throw right, and a myriad of them. So we

1248
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: found something that that was something. Okay, cool, this is

1249
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: an issue. Let's figure out what's causing that. So when

1250
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: you hitch, what muscles are we using that's actually pulling

1251
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: you forward? Oh it's your left adductor okay, which runs

1252
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: along the end seam of your left leg. Okay, how

1253
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: do we strengthen that and build a connection so when

1254
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: you move your hips stay level. It was that type

1255
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: of detail this offseason I have in my mind. But

1256
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: we'll do what we do every off season, what I

1257
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: do with Burrow and these other guys. We'll sit down,

1258
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: we'll watch a bunch of stuff. We'll come to an

1259
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm a consultant, so I'm not going to tell him

1260
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: what to do, or any of these guys what to do.

1261
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm here to say, hey, let's here's what I've found.

1262
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: What have you found. Let's get to the root of

1263
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: what causes that, and then you know, what are the

1264
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: situations when that comes up. So with Josh and that

1265
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: he had he missed a throw in Tennessee, Diggs was

1266
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: on his right and it was like a curl and

1267
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: it just kind of one hopped. It just didn't get

1268
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: there quite enough, so he got wide. Is base got whine. Okay, well,

1269
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: what's causing the base to get wide? What about that progression?

1270
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: What about that movement caused the base to get wide?

1271
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: That inhibited you from being able to really block off

1272
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: that left hip and pull your right hip around and

1273
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, all the things that we teach. So

1274
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: it's really with him, it's going to go, what are

1275
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: the two or three times that something came up, what

1276
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: caused that? And then how do we build muscle memory

1277
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: to where when that happens again, you don't think about it.

1278
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: You're just reacting and you're doing it the way that

1279
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: we just you know, you determine that you want to

1280
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: do it. And so that's really the process for guys

1281
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: at his level. The majority of the quarterbacks I work

1282
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: are better right now when I'm training them than I

1283
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: ever was. Josh is certainly no exception to that, and

1284
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: so that's just been the best way for me to

1285
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: train guys that I'm not giving them my experience. I

1286
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: can't I can't explain to Josh what it's like to

1287
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: playing ANFC Championship game. I don't know, I never have,

1288
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: but in terms of helping guys identify what that is,

1289
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 1: what the root cause of it is, and then we

1290
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: build a plan around it. So you mentioned also that

1291
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: you work with Joe Burrow. He's playing this weekend. What

1292
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on his game this weekend? The kind

1293
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: of player he is? I know, I don't know if

1294
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: Josh and Joe know each other work out together at

1295
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: any point, but what are your thoughts on Joe Burrow

1296
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: he headed into the AFC Championship game in Kansas City,

1297
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: and what are your expectations for him? Well, he's got

1298
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: a completely different game than than Josh, completely different build,

1299
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: but I think it's going to be the same result,

1300
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: similar results. I think it's going to come down in

1301
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: the last couple of plays that that unwavering self generated

1302
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: confidence that Josh had just didn't matter as unflappable. This

1303
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: play is gonna work, We're gonna score. Joe has the

1304
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: exact same thing. He's proved it in college, and he's

1305
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: proved it so far early in a very young career,

1306
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: and any three for four or seventy something like that

1307
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago when they played the Chiefs

1308
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: and they beat the Brakes off the Chiefs. The difference

1309
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: in that game Cincinnati created turnovers. Difference in the Week

1310
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: five matchup between the Bills and Chiefs, Buffalo created turnovers.

1311
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be the name of the game. And

1312
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: since he's coming off of a three turnover performance on

1313
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, they created those takeaways.

1314
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: But as far as Joe's concerned, you know, if this

1315
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: turns into a game, it let's say Kansas City just

1316
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: runs that defensive game plan back like they said, we're

1317
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: gonna take Digs out of this game, you know, and

1318
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: then and then here comes the other guy with four

1319
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: touchdowns and two hundred yards. If they want to take

1320
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase out of the game, I think Tee Higgins

1321
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 1: is the same thing or better. So it'd be interesting

1322
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 1: to see what the Chiefs do. Obviously, that defense is

1323
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: that secondary is a little suspect. This game is gonna

1324
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: come down to can Bengals create one or two turnovers

1325
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: and can Cincinnati. They're not gonna block Kansas City, but

1326
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: can they can they protect him on the key third

1327
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: downs and when they have that shot play dialed and

1328
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 1: they get the look they want. Did they actually he

1329
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: blocked them? On those plays? He's still gonna get sacked

1330
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: four or five times at least, but it's on those

1331
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: key plays. Can they hold protection long enough for Joe

1332
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: to put the ball on the field. Awesome, Jordan, Why

1333
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 1: don't you just get a plug in for QB summit

1334
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: camp dot com with your summer tour coming up here? Yeah,

1335
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm doing a tour around the country twelve stops. All

1336
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 1: the stuff I teach older guys, I break down from

1337
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: middle school and high school quarterbacks, So as far as

1338
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: East Coast is concerned, coming to Nashville and Chicago and Charlotte,

1339
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: those are the East as I go, and I would

1340
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: love to have any young guys. So starting around eleven

1341
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: or twelve up through high school, it's it's the best

1342
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: camp in the in the country, just because I really

1343
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: break it down, we start at the very beginning. We

1344
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: don't do cool drills or don't chase kids around. It's

1345
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: it's teaching them the fundamentals of how to move and

1346
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: how to throw awesome. QUB summitcamp dot Com is the

1347
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: website to go to if you're interested and maybe you

1348
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: can catch up with Jordan when he comes east to

1349
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: the Mississippi here, Jordan, thanks as always for the time.

1350
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: We appreciate it in terms of breaking down some of

1351
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 1: the things on Josh's to do list each and every

1352
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: off sea. And we'll catch up with you down the line.

1353
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: Thanks Jordan. Yeah, I'm bummed. I gotta figure out some

1354
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: flight credits because I was supposed to fly a buffalo this. Yeah,

1355
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 1: we're all bummed right now. He's playing at Pebble Beach

1356
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: in the program. Maybe you could just drive down the

1357
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: road and meet him there. I just talked to him. Yeah,

1358
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: he's laying here flying up there and that's gonna be awesome.

1359
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna be I wouldn't stand along the right side

1360
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: of the t box. Okay, touched the club in a

1361
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: couple of months. Yeah, right, very good. Thanks Jordan for

1362
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: the time. We'll catch up with you down the line.

1363
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: All right. That's Jordan Palmer, Josh Allen's QB trainer in

1364
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: the off season, and I didn't get a chance to

1365
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: talk to him about this, Steve, but in this past

1366
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: off season in working with Joe Burrow, Josh was there

1367
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: at the same time and they were all training in

1368
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: the off season, and the one thing that Burrow worked

1369
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: on with Palmer was increasing his lower body torque into

1370
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: his throw throwing motion, and Jeff Feldman wrote a fantastic piece.

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01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: I think it was an SI dot com if I

1372
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: remember right, and we've had Jeff on the show as well.

1373
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: He basically added on average five miles per hour to

1374
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: the velocity of his passes because of his ability to

1375
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: mechanically incorporate his hip torque into his throwing motion. He

1376
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: was too much armed, not enough hips, and because they

1377
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: were successfully able to mechanically incorporate that, we're seeing the

1378
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: difference this season. Yeah, you used to see, you see

1379
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: and I didn't. I'm not really really one of those

1380
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: guys that watch that stuff, but I know that one

1381
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: of the strongest arms I ever witnessed was was besides Josh's,

1382
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: John Elway, Yeah, back in the day. And one of

1383
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: the things you'd watch Elway when he throw it was

1384
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: his shoulders would turn more. So you know, guys will

1385
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: throw it's like you know, throwing a water paper in

1386
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: the trash can. He just kind of throw it. And

1387
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,759
Speaker 1: that's how guys throw. Well. Elway and guys like Josh,

1388
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: their shoulders turned like they flip. Yeah, it's like the

1389
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: shoulders go from you know, their left shoulder pointed to

1390
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: the target till their their backside points to twelve right.

1391
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: And that torque of their shoulders adds an enormous amount

1392
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: of velocity to throws. Yeah, and when you're turning like that,

1393
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: your hips have to come through also, right, all of that,

1394
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: And so because you're not gum, they break that stuff

1395
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: down into the ergonomics of and the kinetics of throwing

1396
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: and what it is and which muscle like he was

1397
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: talking about that, you know, the muscles that are talking

1398
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: about fire and stuff. It's it's no surprise. This just end.

1399
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: When you work hard at something, there's no surprise you

1400
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: get better at it, especially when you're physically gifted to

1401
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: begin with. So you match elite talent with hard work,

1402
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 1: you reach an elite level incluing some intelligence too, and

1403
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: that helps a lot. I still think I've told Jordan this.

1404
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: I still think Josh is underrated as between the ears

1405
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: type quarterback. And part of the reason is because his

1406
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: physical gifts are so readily parent everybody forgets about what

1407
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: he's got between the years and what he's got between

1408
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: the years is just as good as what his physical

1409
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: abilities are. That's why he is a complete unicorn. That's

1410
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: also the reason too. And I think as he gets

1411
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 1: older and further into his career, and you know, like

1412
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 1: you saw this where he snubbed the Pro Bowl, he

1413
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 1: snubbed the Pro Bowl, and it's not going he's gonna

1414
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 1: rest up and heal up. That's gonna be harder for

1415
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,799
Speaker 1: him to do. And I think as he gets bumps

1416
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: and bruises from running more and more, he's gonna turn

1417
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: into a guy that stands in the pocket and just

1418
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: gonna win from there almost exclusively. And if if he

1419
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: shows the ability to do that, Yeah, that's when you

1420
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: know that his mind is way ahead of where everybody

1421
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: thought it was ever gonna be. Yeah, break time for

1422
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: us here when we come back, more of your phone calls,

1423
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: So Joe and Tonawanda, Gary and Lancaster, Mark and West Seneca,

1424
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: hang tight. We'll get to you when we return here.

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01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 1: On One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health, This

1426
01:14:52,800 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live.

1427
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: Chris Brown's Saint Oh what happens in the breaks could

1428
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: be a show of its own. I tell you eight

1429
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty to get on board. And

1430
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 1: that's where we're going back to the phones and we

1431
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: go to Joe in Tonawanda. Next, Joe, what do you

1432
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one bills live. Hey, guys,

1433
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: I got two things. The first thing, I might have

1434
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: an answer for the overtime rules. I think it should

1435
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: be a full ten minute period with two timeouts, and

1436
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: whatever happens happens. It was spirit of both teams. Now,

1437
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: if you say you can't do it because of time restraint,

1438
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 1: really nobody in the world cares about what's on TV. Next, Okay,

1439
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: what do you think about that? I have something else.

1440
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: The first thing, Joe, I'll say to that is what

1441
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: happens if you're still tied after those ten minutes, then

1442
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: next score, next score wins. Then it's sudden death water,

1443
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: then it's sudden death. Why don't you just do sudden

1444
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: death at the end at the regulation? Well, I don't know.

1445
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: It was just an idea. Joe. I love you, Joe,

1446
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,560
Speaker 1: I love you? All right? What was the second? What

1447
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: was the second thing? Yet? All right? Uh, I have

1448
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: a complaint about the Tennessee since he game since he's

1449
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: up six nothing Tennessee scores, since he intentionally puts twelve

1450
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 1: men on the field. New England did that do a

1451
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I was mad about that. So

1452
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: they put twelve men on the field, just debate Tennessee

1453
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: to go for two, and it worked. They missed it. Now,

1454
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: how is intentional abit? Now? How is obvious intentionally baiting

1455
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: good sportsmanship? I'm going to drop the mic on that. Okay,

1456
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: not bad Joe. Your your second one was better than

1457
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 1: your first. Good job, I get it. Think about this, though,

1458
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: there's a there's a right taking talking about the two

1459
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 1: point conversion play. When they put twelve men on the field,

1460
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: he believes on purpose because he thought they could stop

1461
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: him on a two point conversion. And I'll say this,

1462
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: when you do that against Tennessee, you don't do that

1463
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: against the team with an elite quarterback. No. Well, you

1464
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: could throw an extra bad idea, is what I'm saying.

1465
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: You don't try it. You don't throw those dice, because

1466
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's a gamble. You're trying to

1467
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: bait them into taking. Instead of going for two from

1468
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: the two yard line, you're going for two from the

1469
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: one yard line because of the penalty. It's a half

1470
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: the distance goal penalty. So that's what since he did

1471
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 1: to try to convince him to go for and it worked.

1472
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: It worked, So forgive me because I did not see

1473
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: that play in that game. So just sports just so,

1474
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: just so I understand it. They put twelve men on

1475
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: the field when they're lining up for the extra point,

1476
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 1: defensively take the penalty, put them on the one yard

1477
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: line to try to get them to go for two

1478
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: instead of kicking the extra point. They went for two,

1479
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: and they didn't get it. Is that right now? Did

1480
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: they still had eleven men on the field for the

1481
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: two point conversion though? Right? Right? Okay, well yeah, I

1482
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: got you. Yeah, otherwise it wouldn't get half the distance.

1483
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: So and I didn't see any of this. I'm that's

1484
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: the premise we're working with. And wow, it's a good move.

1485
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: It's inventive. I don't think it's bad sportsmanship at all,

1486
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 1: particularly if you know they're baiting you and it's not

1487
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: like you're getting away with twelve men on the field.

1488
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 1: You incurred a penalty by taking that approach. That's right.

1489
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: Just happen to work for you, and it doesn't mean,

1490
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't hate it. Tennessee Titans couldn't just kick the

1491
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,799
Speaker 1: field goal the extra point anyway. Yeah, it's thinking outside

1492
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: the box if anything. And they'd be kicking it off

1493
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: from if it didn't work, they'd be yelling at him

1494
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: for it. They'd be kicking it off from ten yard

1495
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: mine too, right instead of the fifteen? Uh what are

1496
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: you saying for the if they accept the penalty, want

1497
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: to kick the field goal that goes from the the

1498
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: extra point? The extra point? Does the extra point move?

1499
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: I think it does? Think it does? Yeah, I got

1500
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: I'd have to look that up. Yeah, that's you can

1501
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: bait them every whatever you want. It's not poor sportsmanship.

1502
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't think. Um. I think it's no because you're

1503
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: incurring a penalty. It might be because they're insulting the

1504
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 1: other team, thinking that we want you to go for

1505
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: two and we don't think you can. Not sure if

1506
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: it didn't work, you know, Cincinnati fans would be up

1507
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: in arms about the decision. So there it is. Back

1508
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: to the phones and too Mark and West Seneca. Mark,

1509
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're all one? Bill's Live. Hey,

1510
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: good afternoon, guys. Hey, I got two things. One the

1511
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: second thing I'd like to help Joe out. I got

1512
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 1: something that's sort of similar to what he just thought. Okay, okay,

1513
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 1: But the other what I was really calm about was

1514
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: picking on the coaches and the coordinators in particular after

1515
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: the way that game ended. I understand it's a little

1516
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: bit low hanging fruit, but in some respects it's really not. Okay.

1517
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 1: I acknowledge I love our coaching staff, don't get me wrong,

1518
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: and I'm not professing to get rid of anybody, not

1519
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: at all, especially Sean mc dermott. And it's as much

1520
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 1: of a process being in those kind of games and

1521
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: learning as it is for the players. I understand all that,

1522
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 1: but those guys McDermott and and Frasier are acknowledged eighty

1523
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: eighty five maybe ninety percent better and Heason's shoulders better

1524
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 1: than most of the rest of the guys in those

1525
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: positions in the league. That being said, my point is this,

1526
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: when you get into the rarefied air of games like that,

1527
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: it's as important for coaching staffs to be right on

1528
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: point in their decision making and in their strategies as

1529
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 1: it is for the players. It's no different than calling

1530
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: a great game and calling a bad play to lose

1531
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 1: a game at the end as Jordan player making twenty tackles,

1532
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: knocking four balls down, intercepting a path and then making

1533
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: an egregious mistake at the end of the game. To

1534
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 1: lose a game like that, you have to be on point.

1535
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: That's a Super Bowl team. We know that it's going

1536
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 1: to take everything and anything to beat them. And as

1537
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: far as on the defensive coaches, one thing, I don't

1538
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: think it's been being mentioned. Brian Dable all year long,

1539
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: and in that game showed a pension to go conservative

1540
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 1: at different points and games, wanting at the very least.

1541
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,919
Speaker 1: And I'm a guy who likes to go down swinging,

1542
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: so I am biased, I admit that. But he went

1543
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: conservative right after Matthew went out of the game. Two

1544
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: maybe three possessions in a row. We never attacked their secondary.

1545
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: We want ultra conservative. Now. Am I saying if we

1546
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,560
Speaker 1: would have won attacking and we would have scored touchdowns?

1547
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't guarantee that, but we might

1548
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: have got a field goal and look how big that

1549
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: would have been at the end of the game. And

1550
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: Brian's not getting any any criticism for that, And My

1551
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: point is this, I'd like to ask Sean McDermott, at

1552
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:50,759
Speaker 1: one point, did you think conservativism on the road against

1553
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: that team would ever put you in a position to

1554
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: win at any point on either side of the ball.

1555
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: We had to go all out all the time and

1556
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 1: be on point, and we just didn't do it. And

1557
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: it was across the board and it roared its head

1558
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: in every base in the game, even in the kickoff,

1559
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: in the kicking game. That all being said, thank you

1560
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: for leting me go on ot. I profess a ten

1561
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: minute over time, just like Joe did okay recently go

1562
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: ten minutes. Is you want to make sure both teams

1563
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: get the ball, theoretically both teams should, Okay, do what

1564
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 1: you want for the who gets the ball first. I

1565
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: don't care how you determine that, coin whip, whatever else.

1566
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: Is what you're trying to lay is not getting too gimmicky,

1567
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: but not putting in players in jeopreary of getting hurt.

1568
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 1: So I propose this in the ten minute over time,

1569
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,560
Speaker 1: everything is four downs, no punts. No matter where you

1570
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: are in the field, you have to go for it.

1571
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: You have to move the ball. If you score a touchdown,

1572
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: you gotta go for two. Okay, if you're still tired

1573
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: after ten minutes, this may be a little gimmicky, but

1574
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: I profess. We go to field goals back and forth.

1575
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: We started forty eight, started to fifty. Whatever it is,

1576
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: because games are won by field goals all the time,

1577
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: and now you're not twitting players in jeopardy past ten

1578
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: minutes and you play it out that way. I don't

1579
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 1: know what you guys think of that. I like that because, yeah,

1580
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Yeah, I like it because it's a

1581
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 1: lot like a soccer shootout, Steve. Yeah, we play, you know,

1582
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: in a soccer in an international game, or you know,

1583
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: in a major tournament game. After ninety minutes, you play

1584
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: two halves of fifteen minutes each, so you play another

1585
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: thirty total, and it's not golden goal. Usually you play

1586
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 1: the full thirty and you know, whoever is ahead at

1587
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: the end wins that game. Otherwise you go to penalty kicks.

1588
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: Field goals would be equivalent to penalty kicks. Yeah, I

1589
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: get it. I like it. Yeah, I like it. And

1590
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: he and he capably addresses the player's safety concerns, which

1591
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: you know the league would bring at the ten minute

1592
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: the ten minute over time. Yeah, I get it. Both

1593
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: teams should have the ball and four down terror everything's

1594
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: four down terror ties punting, yeah, no punting allowed, and

1595
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: two point conversions only. Yeah, it's big. I like it. Well,

1596
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 1: what it also does is, I think it further ensures

1597
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: that somebody will win in the span of that ten minutes.

1598
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: That's right, without any punting and changing field position. Somebody's

1599
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:22,839
Speaker 1: gonna win that ten minutes, and the odds are increased,

1600
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: but you've got to have a contingency in case they can't.

1601
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: And that's and he's a hund match and he's one

1602
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: hundred percent right that the coaches need to be just

1603
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: as laser focused as the players from start to finish

1604
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: in the game. The game like that, because you'd think,

1605
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's some there's a I'm not gonna name name,

1606
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,799
Speaker 1: but there's a number of teams in the NFL, maybe

1607
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: thirty other teams in the other don't have the wherewithal

1608
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: to make happen what those two teams made happen the

1609
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: other night, so that the thirteen seconds is irrelevant. Nobody's

1610
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 1: they couldn't get it down. The only thing, yeah, the

1611
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: only thing I disagree with Mark A. Little bit on

1612
01:24:55,600 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: was his portrayal of the offense being concerned. Pat, I'll

1613
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 1: tell you this, I'm glad you brought that up, because

1614
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 1: Tony Romo said that as well. When they came out

1615
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: and hit the deep ball to Davis over the top

1616
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 1: on the one third quarter, third quarter, Tony Romo said

1617
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: that as well. He said, you know, I've seen they've

1618
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: been the one thing. They've been playing a little safe

1619
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: over the last two or three drives. He goes, it's

1620
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: good that they came out and did that because he

1621
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 1: felt like he had that feeling as well, the same

1622
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 1: one that Mark did just now, and I had not

1623
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,839
Speaker 1: noticed that. I will just say this, knowing Brian Dables

1624
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 1: process in calling a game as it unfolds, he is

1625
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: not one to knee jerk react to things that happen

1626
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: in a game. He believes, especially in the first quarter,

1627
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: letting the game breathe a little bit, because if you

1628
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: knee jerk and change, sometimes your opponent did that on

1629
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: purpose to get you to knee jerk change. Now, this

1630
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: was an unforeseen circumstance. Tyrn Matthew is out of the

1631
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: game on the second drive. I think it was, so

1632
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 1: that's really early and to me, I was of the

1633
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: opinion just knowing Daboles process, that he wanted the game

1634
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 1: to breathe a little bit before he took advantage of that.

1635
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: Now you could argue that and say you take advantage

1636
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: of that right away. I don't know what you're doing,

1637
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: but the Chiefs defense may have adjusted and how they

1638
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: were playing from the first series, and maybe he wanted

1639
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: to survey that a little bit more before making a

1640
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: change of his own. That's just the way I think.

1641
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 1: That's It's common too that whether you're whether you really

1642
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 1: want to go after the guy or not. You know,

1643
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: like if they bring a guy in off if they

1644
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 1: bring Charlie bag of Donuts in off the bench and

1645
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: playing for Tyrone Matthew and you want to say, okay,

1646
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 1: let's go after Charlie bag of Donuts. Everything you call

1647
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: from then on is also with an eye as to

1648
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: what they are doing to our offense right now? What's there?

1649
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: What are they doing? And it could have been that

1650
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 1: because Matthew's out, they played with a lighter box, knowing

1651
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: they needed help in the back end, and that's why

1652
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 1: Devin Singletarre's why they ran the ball more. It seemed

1653
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: like they were going safe because the box dictated it,

1654
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 1: because their adjustment with Tyron Matthew out of the game

1655
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: was to cover for the secondary more than they would

1656
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: have the front. Seventh. Yep, time for us to break here.

1657
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: We're back to close it up in a sec on one,

1658
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 1: Bill's live, stay tuned. All right, we're gonna squeeze in

1659
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 1: Gary and Lancaster who was waiting long? So Gary, what

1660
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: do you have for us? You got about twenty seconds? Yeah, right,

1661
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: imbre going right, I'm here to go. What we do

1662
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 1: now and we go fold. This is where mcgammon do

1663
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: the best. They're going to give us better look at

1664
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: our stuff critically that you're done and get better from

1665
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: where we are. Amazing, So I trust them. I think

1666
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: we're going to still get better. Which is which for

1667
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 1: the Bill? Then done there? Right? Yeah, fair enough, Gary,

1668
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Well positioned for the future, for sure.

1669
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: You gotta make some more good draft choices, some more

1670
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: good decisions in the off season. Well, and if you

1671
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: have to fill coordinators, make sure you hit on those

1672
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: as well. That's the thing you got to remember this

1673
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: is this is gonna be a little bit of different

1674
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: of an off season. It looks like if we lose

1675
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: one or two of the one or both of the coordinators,

1676
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: things are going to be very different. There's gonna be

1677
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks going forward, but there's no

1678
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: reason to think that. You know, they got to keep

1679
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 1: on keeping on. They don't need to do different or

1680
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: do change their way. They'd do what you do again,

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Speaker 1: do it again, and this time play better. When you

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Speaker 1: get there, Josh is gonna be better. You're gonna have.

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Speaker 1: You can get them some more weapons, get them another

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Speaker 1: offensive line and get them some more depth on the

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Speaker 1: offensive line, get another path what blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Just get better, make your roster better. Bring in more

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Speaker 1: competition at every single spot, because that'll make you better.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have. They have gotten here for a reason,

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Speaker 1: and that reason has not changed. Big Show Tomorrow, we've

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Speaker 1: got the triumphant return of Tasker's Teammo It'll be back

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Speaker 1: Eddie Glab with some of her end of season awards,

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Speaker 1: and the last appearance of Greg Kosel. Yeah, the triumphant

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Speaker 1: return to Tasker's teammate. Also programming, note our latest episode

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Speaker 1: of Bills by the Numbers. The podcast is out on

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Speaker 1: All Your Podcast platforms check it out. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at one