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Speaker 1: back with you sorry I missed you on Monday. Get

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Speaker 1: to get into as we get going here. Uh, Dane

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Speaker 1: Brugler put out his top one hundred today. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny that we've talked about a

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Speaker 1: Quinton Nelson and the way Quenton Nelson being at number

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Speaker 1: one that to me, I it's so it's so unusual

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Speaker 1: in a scenario like that, you imagine all five quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: really looking at the top six or seven non quarterback

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Speaker 1: As I was mapping this out, we followed, Oh no,

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Speaker 1: is a little I don't have headphones today, the go ahead?

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Speaker 1: All right, Um, well, hey, we just we've finished the

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Speaker 1: first segment by talking about Ridley and DJ Moore. Uh

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Speaker 1: you know, we talk about what range guys are gonna

462
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Speaker 1: go and where they're where they're gonna go, whether or

463
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Speaker 1: not they're gonna be there. So Caleb wants to know,

464
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Speaker 1: assuming they don't. Oh, and he pointed out, we all

465
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Speaker 1: mocked a receiver at fifty in our seven round mock anywhere,

466
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Speaker 1: guy from Memphis, you feel good about that one day?

467
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Speaker 1: So thirty six overall player, who do you think they're

468
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Speaker 1: at fifty? Wide receiver if they don't take one at nineteen,

469
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Speaker 1: just ballpark it for me. If wide receiver is gonna

470
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Speaker 1: be your pick at fifty, who's there? You know? I

471
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Speaker 1: was more going on a three round locks draft right now. Actually,

472
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Speaker 1: and I get to Dallas's pick, and let's see the

473
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Speaker 1: tom receivers available. James Washington, Yeah, I do have Anthony

474
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Speaker 1: Miller there, so yeah, he was at Washington was a

475
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Speaker 1: thirty visit though too. Washington Miller? Yes. What about Saint Brown?

476
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Speaker 1: I think Saint Brown's there too, and think fifty as well.

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Speaker 1: I have him rated higher than Washington and some of

478
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Speaker 1: these other guys, but I don't He's a wild card really.

479
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Speaker 1: I mean same thing with Sutton. Both these guys are

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Speaker 1: more stential picks. They could be off the board both

481
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Speaker 1: in the early second. How about Gallup? I know some people,

482
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Speaker 1: I mean, Gallup is a guy I'm a little bit

483
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Speaker 1: higher on him than you guys. Miller was a guy

484
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Speaker 1: I went ahead and mocked to the Cowboys at fifty.

485
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Speaker 1: So yeah, it'll be interesting to see there might be

486
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Speaker 1: a run because you really don't know. There might be

487
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Speaker 1: that run in the back end of the draft that

488
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Speaker 1: kind of starts it. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna

489
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Speaker 1: start at the top of it. No, I think it's

490
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Speaker 1: gonna come on the best. Yeah. Yeah, we're funny with

491
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Speaker 1: two guys. Wide receiver is always the toughest to predict

492
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Speaker 1: where they're gonna go. Yeah, I do. And I love

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Speaker 1: the question by Cale. It's a really great observation. I

494
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Speaker 1: didn't even notice that we all took a guy at fifty, right, Um,

495
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Speaker 1: who are the different names we had? Miller, Miller, We

496
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Speaker 1: we both took Miller, Nick Eatman took Washington. Yeah, I

497
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Speaker 1: don't remember who wrong. Yeah, and those two would be

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Speaker 1: I think the most likely names at that point. But

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Speaker 1: I got the point. I'm gonna you know, as much

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Speaker 1: as we talk, and we talked about Ridley and more

501
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Speaker 1: too much, probably, but like, there'll be some good receivers

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Speaker 1: there at fifth. Oh no, And see that's why. And

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Speaker 1: I guess Kirk might be the Christian Kerry yeah, I

504
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Speaker 1: gotta I gotta a tweet from somebody said, hey, that

505
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Speaker 1: Bill Polian thought this wasn't a deep draft for receivers,

506
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Speaker 1: And you know, everybody looks at these things differently, and

507
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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like, yeah, maybe it's not the

508
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Speaker 1: top of the board, but down as you go through.

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Speaker 1: I mean we name, like I say, the guys. I

510
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Speaker 1: mean I didn't even mentioned Pettis. Yeah, is a guy

511
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Speaker 1: that I like, you know, Pettis Sudden uh Smith from

512
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Speaker 1: Central Floor. I mean there's some quality names. It's not

513
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Speaker 1: deep in the sense that there's a lot of high

514
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Speaker 1: end talent, but like you can get really good value. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I mean I I have no problem with those guys

516
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Speaker 1: like Miller, Kirk Washington. I don't think exactly, no problem,

517
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Speaker 1: no problem with those guys. He might go first round.

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Speaker 1: I said that while ago. I laughed at you the

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Speaker 1: first time you said it, and now I'm like, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got a new drum to beat. I beat the

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore drum until the skin fell off, So I

522
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Speaker 1: got a new one that I'm trying to start this

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Speaker 1: train going, which is uh JF, says Harold Landry. There

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Speaker 1: for you at nineteen, is it really and that the

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Speaker 1: thing is the thing that's stopping me is I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's realistic. Well again, another thirty visit guy. And

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Speaker 1: that's that's what really set me on because but they

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Speaker 1: visited also TJA guy. The fact that they're interested to

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Speaker 1: enough to take a look is all I need to

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Speaker 1: really be intrigued, because again, you look at the value,

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Speaker 1: You're like, well, do you want like the third or

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Speaker 1: fourth best linebacker, a guy who's not gonna play one

533
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Speaker 1: hundred percent of the snaps or a dude who can

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Speaker 1: come in and get some work done as a pass

535
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Speaker 1: rusher right away. I mean that's very especially you talk

536
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Speaker 1: about the Marcus Lawrence is on a one year deal,

537
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Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford. I mean, I don't know what the future

538
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Speaker 1: holds for him, but you could probably get out of

539
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Speaker 1: that contract in the near future if you wanted to.

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Speaker 1: It's some position we're taking a look at. Thirteenth best

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Speaker 1: player according to Dane Burglar on his top one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, but the second best pass rusher, probably

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Speaker 1: third behind Davenport. You have got Davenport and Lander back

544
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Speaker 1: to back. But yeah, twelve thirteen, Yeah, those guys don't

545
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Speaker 1: hang around typically, right, So that's if he might not

546
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Speaker 1: even be there at night, which is it realistic? That's

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Speaker 1: the question I have for you. Yeah, good chance, Green

548
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Speaker 1: Bay at fourteen. Yeah, I would worry about them. I mean,

549
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Speaker 1: everyone needs pass rush help, so it wouldn't be a

550
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Speaker 1: surprise to see him off the board at that point.

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Speaker 1: It just it kind of I don't know. If t J.

552
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Speaker 1: Watt wasn't a fit last year, how is Harold Landre

553
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Speaker 1: a fit? Maybe I get because ye t J. Wat

554
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Speaker 1: didn't put his hand on the ground on film, but

555
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Speaker 1: he's bigger than Harold Landry is, and I don't think

556
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Speaker 1: it was that much projection just to put it, you know,

557
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Speaker 1: because the guy's got his hand on the right exactly

558
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Speaker 1: where Harold Landry's. He's small. He's six two, two hundred

559
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Speaker 1: and fifty pounds, right, you know, he's smaller. He's the

560
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Speaker 1: one that really ideally would be standing up. You know,

561
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Speaker 1: if we're talking about that type of fit, he's he's

562
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Speaker 1: cut from the same cloth as Vic Beasley, that type

563
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Speaker 1: of pass rusher. I love him. I think he's an

564
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Speaker 1: outstanding pass rusher. I just it's hard to figure out

565
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Speaker 1: these guys with well we criticize the coaches all the

566
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Speaker 1: time for being stubborn, maybe watching t J. Watt rack

567
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Speaker 1: up six sacks as a rookie, you changed their minds

568
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Speaker 1: about what a guy like that, Mike get to a

569
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Speaker 1: point two where all of a sudden, you're right. They

570
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: see that, and then they then they go, wait a minute, now,

571
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Speaker 1: let's take the coaches out of this football and not

572
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: only that, which the big counterpoint to Harold Landry t J.

573
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Speaker 1: Watt argument is that Harold Landry is awfully similar to

574
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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence's draft weight and size, and we've seen what

575
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Speaker 1: he's done. Yeah, so that's if you tell me I

576
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Speaker 1: can get him at nineteen. I'm all in. I'm so

577
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: all in it's not even funny. But I just I

578
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Speaker 1: you're all in. If if I have a hard time

579
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Speaker 1: believing he's there, who who would you who would give

580
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Speaker 1: you pause? Who would give you pause on the board

581
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Speaker 1: at nineteen? If it was Landry and somebody else? I

582
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: know how much you like DJ Moore one either one

583
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Speaker 1: of the wide receivers. I think that's a conversation worth having.

584
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Speaker 1: But I think no, give you pause, that you would say,

585
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Speaker 1: oh wait a minute, wait, you got me where I

586
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Speaker 1: wouldn't take Landry over this guy. There is there an

587
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Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman you would take over Landry. Yeah, I'm

588
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: saying Vida Vella lineback. Would it would have to be

589
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: to get I honestly think, for the value of the

590
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: position and what I think he might be able to do,

591
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Speaker 1: Landry might be my most intriguing realistic option. I mean,

592
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Speaker 1: Derwin James and Roquan Smith su No, but I was

593
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: thinking of somebody else and his question was really good

594
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Speaker 1: about that. There's nobody that would move you off Landry?

595
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Speaker 1: Then not realistically, I don't think, because again, I mean,

596
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Speaker 1: you're talking about one of the two or three most

597
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: valuable positions in the game. Okay, Ridley would move you

598
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: off Landry, wouldn't he? Uh? Probably? Yeah, see, but you've

599
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: been on, You've been on. Really we literally just said

600
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Speaker 1: about all the receivers, you could get it fifty though.

601
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Speaker 1: No I know. But but but this is the Cowboys.

602
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: He's saying, the Cowboys haven't made a change of receiver

603
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Speaker 1: in five years. Yeah, what they do They went out

604
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: and change receivers. It's about time they brought some more.

605
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Speaker 1: So I was just feeling like, Okay, his love for

606
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Speaker 1: Ridley might not be as strong as it was a

607
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Speaker 1: month ago. Well, yeah, as it pertains to this team,

608
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Speaker 1: you know, like, for example, I'm a lot more I'm

609
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Speaker 1: a lot more open to a guard at nineteen than

610
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Speaker 1: I was before because I don't think they really addressed

611
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Speaker 1: that position to a you know, an extent where I

612
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: feel comfortable, right, Marcus Martin's a nice player, right, But

613
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Speaker 1: I'm a lot more open to a guard at nineteen

614
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Speaker 1: just because I don't think they went out and got

615
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Speaker 1: a caliber of a guard that that's I would have done.

616
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Speaker 1: That's a very good fair. That's really good. There were

617
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Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey that see now McGlinchey again, we come back

618
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Speaker 1: to him full circle. If he plays right tackle, is

619
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Speaker 1: there as in the whole kicking while Collins inside? That's

620
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Speaker 1: if they or do you have your backup if something

621
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Speaker 1: happens to Tyrnn Smith with Fleming and those guys, you

622
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: could just plug Fleming in or let Fleming work at

623
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Speaker 1: left tackle the whole training camp. If they were to

624
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Speaker 1: draft let I mean, let's even say they like Connor

625
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Speaker 1: Williams more than mc dallasday guy to more. But if

626
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Speaker 1: they were to draft to tackle at nineteen. I have

627
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Speaker 1: to assume that means that Lyle is going to play

628
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Speaker 1: guard this year. Yeah, absolutely, so, Yeah, the only the

629
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Speaker 1: only reason you draft tackle that early. And you know,

630
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Speaker 1: Connor Williams, you know we've we talked about can play

631
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Speaker 1: different positions. Mike McGlinchey, I think you could play him

632
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Speaker 1: a guard, but you're playing him a tackle. If you're

633
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Speaker 1: drafting in the first round, it's to be a tackle. Yeah,

634
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Speaker 1: and is it? He has right tackle experience experience. Let's

635
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Speaker 1: let's use this as a segue because we talked about

636
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Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman. Just a minute there, Heath says, And

637
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Speaker 1: this is something else you got to think about. Is

638
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: dron paying more of a one or three? That's part

639
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: one of Heath's question. Part two is have we heard

640
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: about Maurice Hurst's heart? And part three of that question is,

641
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: assuming everything's good there, who do you like more between them? Okay,

642
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: I've gone back and talk to some more teams about Hearst,

643
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: and I need to I need to find out about

644
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: this team investigating educate. Yeah, would you find out? I

645
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: found out that he's off a lot of boards. So

646
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: that's a scary thing. Man, even even if the Michigan

647
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: doctors cleared him. Yeah, that went about that. I talked

648
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: to several teams. I said, what's the story now on

649
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: hearst and they go, we're not going to have him

650
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: on the board. So again, that's that's not the Dallas Cowboys.

651
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: You know, we all know people in the league, and

652
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: I had several people tell me throughout that hey, that

653
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Speaker 1: that we're going to have him completely off and that's

654
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Speaker 1: not knocking him down to the second third round, that's

655
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Speaker 1: completely halfing him off the board. That is yeah, well

656
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: that's completely off the board. You know that. That's other teams. Again,

657
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: I need to find out what Alice is going to do.

658
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: Character concerns or like bone on bone might push you

659
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: down the board, right talking about somebody key, you're talking

660
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: about somebody's heart. That's like yeah, absolutely, all it takes

661
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: is one one team, you know, to believe and sure

662
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: the doctors say, you know what, he'll be fine. Oh

663
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: we went through this with Jalen Smith again, it was

664
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Speaker 1: it was something he'll never play again. Yeah, he'll never

665
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: play again. But again, it's the heart. It's the heart,

666
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: and that's the thing. But I went back and asked

667
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: several teams. I said, where you got Hurst now after

668
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: all this, and they said off the board. Well, and

669
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: back to your original question about drawn Payne. I think

670
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: he's he's more of a one. But you do see

671
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: the three technique? You do? You do? You're right, he

672
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: has the athleticism. I mean, just look at his combine stats,

673
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: the testing that he had, so he does have the

674
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: athleticism to do it. I wish we saw it more

675
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: than just the two playoff games on tape, but we

676
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: know that he can at least do it. If Maurice

677
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: Hurst is healthy, He's the top defense tackle in this draft,

678
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: no doubt. It's an under tackle, right. Your three technique

679
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: you got in get up field, but there's the heart

680
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: conditioning that you just can't ignore. You think, maybe scheme

681
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: and whatever else and the amount of talent Alabama's got

682
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: going there, like maybe they just played pain at the

683
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: one more because they needed to. Stephen White. I don't

684
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: know if y'all are familiar with his work. Tennessee defensive

685
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: lineman played in the pros Rights for sp Nation. He

686
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: did a film breakdown where he was like, this guy

687
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: should be playing three. I don't care what Alabama they

688
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: played that three four, and so I mean it's kind

689
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: of a projection. Maybe he fits better at four three

690
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: three and he just never got to do it. And

691
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: that's fair because we we've talked about this over the

692
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: years with you know, all the Ashaan Robinson, all the

693
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: different Alabama players up front, what they're asked to do,

694
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's just contain occupy blocks, you know,

695
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: free up room, opened up passing lanes for the linebackers.

696
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: Same thing with the Shawan hand the other Alabama lineman

697
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: in this draft. Who I think he's gonna be a

698
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: fantastic three technique in the NFL. You just didn't get

699
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: a chance to show it a lot and on Alabama's

700
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: defensive line. And so yeah, I do think that factors

701
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: into the equation because drawn Payne is that the traits

702
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: are there, the testing numbers are there, the potentials there.

703
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: It's just it's not always there on tape. And so

704
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: that's that's part of the factors you have to consider.

705
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: Here's a there's a question for you, Brian, which I

706
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: read a report yesterday about how somebody said the Bengals

707
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: are going to draft Art and Key. I thought you'd

708
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: like that, but well, so, uh, Bengals. Tyler was listening

709
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: to us yesterday on the break talking about how we

710
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't touch Art and Key at fit, which I stand

711
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: by that sure, But Tyler wants to know where do

712
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: you consider him, like if he starts to really plummet

713
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: down the board at when do you feel comfortable drafting

714
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: Art and Key knowing everything you know about him? Yeah?

715
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: I think it's I think that if I as I

716
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: look at my draft picks that I have where I

717
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: need to be. I I kind of think like eighty

718
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: one might be where I start thinking about it. But

719
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: I've I've grown up, feels too. I've grown up in

720
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: a system, you know, in Green Bay, and I'm trying

721
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: to be back in the day guy. But it's my experience.

722
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 1: The fourth round was always the medical round yep. Medical

723
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: or criminal yep. Those were the rounds. So I've got

724
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: I've got Selection one sixteen, and I got Selection one

725
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: thirty seven. I don't think Art and Key is there

726
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: at six, one sixteen or one thirty seven. I don't

727
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: think he is either. I just don't. And that's why

728
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: I brought up eighteen. Now, how much are you willing?

729
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 1: I just in my head, I can't. I keep hearing

730
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory tell Jason Garrett on the draft night, don't

731
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: worry about me, coach, don't worry about me, And I

732
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: kind of feel like that arden Key, I can't trust him.

733
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: I can't trust arden Key, certainly not. But where would

734
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: I start thinking about him if I was a team.

735
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: I think you'd have to start thinking about at eighty one,

736
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: because again at one sixteen, at one thirty seven, I

737
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: don't think he's there. I subscribe to Dane's philosophy that

738
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: your first three picks should be starting, and I'm not

739
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: using a pick that could go towards a starter on that.

740
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: I just I can't. I know he probably won't be

741
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: there one sixteen, but that's where I get comfortable drafting.

742
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: I struggled with him where to put him in my

743
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: top one hundred, you know, I really struggled where I

744
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: would feel comfortable, and I ended up putting him at

745
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: sixty eight. Yeah, And I don't feel great about Yeah,

746
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: because it's a guy that flashes a lot. But like

747
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: you said, it is hard to trust him. Um with

748
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: just off the field as he love football, is he

749
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: gonna push himself to reach that potential? If you can

750
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: harness that ability. It's gonna work out, But there's a

751
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: lot of ifs in there, and I don't know. At

752
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: sixty eight, that's start that that begins the range where

753
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: I would feel comfortable taking a look at him. Yeah,

754
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: that's that's the Yeah, that's a tough one because all

755
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden it's gonna come down to he could be,

756
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: he could be, he could be a tremendous player. Or

757
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: again we've compared him to which well, Randy Gregor, well

758
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: this is and it's not as serious as a heart condition,

759
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: but it's the same thing we always see, like some

760
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: teams are just gonna have him not even there at all,

761
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: like us, by bye, Randy Gregory tested a lot better

762
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: than arden Key. Factual arden Key was with high four

763
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: eights and yeah, yeah, he yes, ardon Key. Yeah, we

764
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: were talking about that four eight five yesterday, So we

765
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: got to take a break. But real, this only needs

766
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: to be a one sentence answer. I just want to

767
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: see how y'all feel. Okay, Bobby Belt, friend of our

768
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: friend of the show, wants he wants us to handicap

769
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: pick number nineteen. He says, Layton vander esh Rashaan Evans

770
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: or the field today. What's you're taken? M hmm, good question.

771
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: Oh I think I talked about how white it is.

772
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm did you mock Vanderish to the Cowboys? Uh? Yeah,

773
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: I did? Okay, he's odds on favor. I'm gonna keep

774
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: riding that horse. That horse is gonna take this reverse psychologist,

775
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: take me all the way to Belmont. I just have

776
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: a feeling about Rashaan Evans. I mocked him in Our Metal.

777
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: A lot of other people are kind of circling that

778
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: wagon too. I just is a guy. I'll take the field,

779
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: then all. I'll take the field because I think there's

780
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: a lot of other names that there are. I mean,

781
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: there's a boatload of names. But I just if nothing

782
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: crazy happens, meaning trades or guys plummeting down the board,

783
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: look good, ain't breakfast this morning? I think those those

784
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: two linebackers, I would give them the best odds. White

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Speaker 1: the at the Star Um. I do want to get in.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask I'm always intrigued by your list again,

834
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,520
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835
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: a couple of corners because you have you have Ward,

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00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: you have Ward Denzel Ward cornerback. Ohio State's number five

837
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00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: and I don't see another cornerback until sixteen with Jarry

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00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: Alexander from Louisville. Yeah, that's pretty high praise for that kid. Yeah.

840
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: I think he's a good player. I mean he's I

841
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: see a lot of Joe Hayden in him. Not the

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00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,160
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843
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: former wide receiver, so you know he has ball skills.

844
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot to like about there. The biggest worry

845
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: with Gyre Alexander is the fact that he missed almost

846
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: half of his junior year, the twenty seventeen season, with

847
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: a knee injury. So but as long as the medicals

848
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: check out, sign me up for Gyr Alexander at some

849
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: point in the first round. I feel good about that.

850
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: So you have him higher than Mike Hughes though I do, okay,

851
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: Mike Cue, but Mike Us is an ex Yeah, you know,

852
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: I think gire Alexander. I think he can press, I

853
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: think can play off. Mike Ues to me is a

854
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: better press corner right than off and so you know

855
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: that ding him a little bit. He's another guy that's

856
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: not the biggest guy, uh five ten, four or five athlete,

857
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: but he adds returned value. Mike Us also has some

858
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: off field stuff. Um, I like Mike Us, but just

859
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: later on the first Let this goes back to the

860
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: first segment. Get all three of them, Let's get them

861
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: all off the board. Let's get Mike mcglinchee in there.

862
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: Let's get all three corners. Maybe throw Darius guys, maybe

863
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: somebody falls in love. And yeah, this is interesting too.

864
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: Is on the way he did this and I don't

865
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: I want to know your method of your madness here

866
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: and again I want to get to some tell me

867
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: more here, but yet Isaiah Win at nineteen, Will Hernandez

868
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: at twenty, Yeah, okay, you This has not ever been separated,

869
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: has it. No, they're one is there? They're not both

870
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: nineteen one, nineteen okay, okay, but you did it this way.

871
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: Let me flip it this way now. Guys at twenty

872
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: one and Ronald Jones at twenty two. Yeah, the ones

873
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: at one. That's an interesting four game. Four players stretch

874
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: right there like like, oh, I don't really know, kind

875
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: of like Dane's like second, third, third, fourth, he's this figure,

876
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 1: this is this is the Mike Mayock four A four

877
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: b's fine? Whoa? Where do you see an A or

878
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: a B in there? Twenty There separation there. There's there's

879
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: not a separation bet twenty one and twenty two last

880
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: time I checked. So you take, you take win over

881
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: Hernandez exactly and better wins a better player than Hernandez,

882
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: and you would take and you would take guys ober jokes,

883
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: I have them slightly ahead of Joes. Tags are touching.

884
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: Oh no, those tags are really touching. But there is

885
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: separation there. They are not on the same level. There

886
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: is there, there's a difference. So trying to start, I

887
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: gotta put this top fifty together myself. I'm not saying

888
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: there's no fun doing that. Yeah, this is not fun

889
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: Dane draft. This is not Dane gives everybody a month

890
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: to read his You put years out on like Thursday morning,

891
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: ten hours before the draft. I don't put out the

892
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: week of the draft. We should have made you do

893
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: a top fifty in January. Yeah, how much you would

894
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: have changed? He would uh your first tight ends at

895
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: thirty four. Yeah, and some people think Hayden Hurst is

896
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: the top guy I do. Yeah, and you're not alone.

897
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: A lot of people in the league think that I

898
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: have n't I have him second, I haven't close. I

899
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: haven't was a thirty eight or something four or oh

900
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: Hayden Yeah, because Dallas guard at thirty four. Yeah, and

901
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: have Hayden Hurst shortly after thirty nine. Yeah, there's not

902
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: a huge separation. But I think both guys are worthy

903
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: of consideration in late first round. See you what, maybe

904
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: maybe the Patriots have got this right looking at your

905
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: names like past, like near fifty. Yeah, maybe maybe you

906
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: need a bunch of second round picks in this draft.

907
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: Oh sure, and we're gonna have some surprise first rounders,

908
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: ye know that we always do. Or guys like Lorenzo

909
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: Carter from Georgia who's gonna sneak in Colton Miller is

910
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: gonna sneak in there. So it's gonna push good name

911
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: Colton Miller. Again, I'm not a fan, right, I'm not

912
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: a fan. He would be the one guy, and he

913
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: was a thirty visit guy. They maybe know they know

914
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: a lot more than May. Again, I mean thirty visits

915
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: comprised the whole scope of the draft. It doesn't mean

916
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: they like him at nineteen, although they might. Yeah, it's

917
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: where they have to get him if they want to

918
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: draft him. Oh so that just I just that would

919
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: be a throw the pin, A real throw the pen,

920
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: not a fake throw the pen. That would be fake. Throw.

921
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: The pin is when you just kind of drop it

922
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: in front of you. The real throw is when it

923
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: sticks in the wall across the game. The model whole true,

924
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys hold true. Don't don't do this, don't do it,

925
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: cowboys don't all right, David, let's get a little bit

926
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: of tell me more, all right, Dane, Yeah, no, no,

927
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, actually no, this is not what

928
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: you think. No. No, well, okay, First of all, the

929
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: main way I put together today, I'm so happy when

930
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: the beast comes out because every day when we do

931
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: the show, I just open it. I look at your

932
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: big list of prospects. I'm like, all right, what's a

933
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: name I don't recognize. We'll talk about him today. No,

934
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: but what's what? What do you think is I don't know.

935
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: Maybe Brian's most often repeated phrase of this draft cycle. Uh,

936
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what. It's something about, like, well, I

937
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: don't know. There's a lot of good one techniques in

938
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: this draft. But further down you go, right, well, here's

939
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: the guy that we have not covered on this show

940
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have appeared to show a little bit

941
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: of interest in. So tell me a little bit about

942
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: Brylan speaks defend tackle the school in Mississippi. I'm not

943
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: gonna call him that, gotcha? Gotcha the Rebels. Uh, he's

944
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of a tweeter kind of because he

945
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: played inside, played outside for role miss six one two

946
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: or eighty five pounds. He kind of took over for

947
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: Robert Candici as their their three technique lining up over

948
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: the b gap. Um, he's high cut, he's at he's

949
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: a little stiff with the lower body. But I mean,

950
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: let me tell you, you you got him right. But he

951
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: has some foot quickness, you know, so I think that's

952
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: going to push him up a little bit. But he's

953
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: got some there's some maturity issues there too. I don't know.

954
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: I wasn't a huge fan. What grade did I give?

955
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: I gave him something like a fourth I mean a

956
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: day three grade. Yeah, I you were actually nicer to

957
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: him than I was. When I kind of forgot when

958
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: that he was going to come to visit, I was thinking,

959
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: what did I mess up with him? You know? I

960
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: saw a guy watched him play against Alabama California, South Alabama,

961
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: and then I just had to stop because I feel

962
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: like he came off the ball high. Let's blockers get

963
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: inside on him. He can close what he gets in space,

964
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: You get him in space. Like you talk about the

965
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: foot quickness and stuff like that. I saw a guy

966
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: get washed a lot. You know what I mean when

967
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: you say when you play high and all of a sudden,

968
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: it's just like they're just taking that. He's kind of

969
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: light too well. Two eighty three Yeah, I had a

970
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: two eighty five on him. I measure, But I think

971
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: he has a problem is balanced. That's the thing I

972
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: worried about. A lot of these guys will watch these

973
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: inside guys, they don't get knocked now, Brian Tevin Bryant.

974
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: Every once in a while just to try and beat

975
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: somebody on quickness will get washed. Yeah, but this guy,

976
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: it was constantly happening to the long legs. Yeah, I'm not.

977
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm gonna stay where I'm out on him

978
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: if he's there, don't be surprised that the third day,

979
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: like Dane saying, and we get the Dallas's pick there,

980
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: uh at, So let me give you one. How about one, nine, two,

981
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: sixth round? Where'd you put him in? Six? I put him.

982
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: I put him in the six. I know you had

983
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: more problems got him in the fourth. I put a

984
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: four or five on him. I wouldn't take him at

985
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: one thirty seven myself, Yeah, I wouldn't do it. But

986
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: if he's he's a flash player too, yeah one seventy one,

987
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: you know something like that. But yeah, man that I

988
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: had a hard time with him. And here you watch

989
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: me who get picked and I have to eat all

990
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: my words? Yeah, I've heard something. A lot of some

991
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: Scots told me. Some practice habits have been questioned in

992
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: the past. Oh, there we go. He was yet a duy.

993
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: He was suspended for another game. So there's some sounds

994
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: like he's right up your alley when you complains. Yeah,

995
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons you bring a guy like

996
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,479
Speaker 1: that in to figure out more about the person. Sure

997
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: maturity and that girl sure trying to find some guards

998
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: that I don't have to draft early. That's you know,

999
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: like I want to bargain hunt. I know that's not smart.

1000
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: That's not smarting. I mean, you got there's so many

1001
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: dudes on this team already. You could move Lil Sure

1002
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: play Marcus Martin there. So I'm trying to bargain hunt.

1003
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: And so in that Van Dane that rhymed tell me

1004
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: about Colby gossip from app State app State, Uh, the

1005
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: four year starter guy that wasn't highly recruited came in, uh,

1006
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 1: and he has the I think the traits that you want.

1007
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: Six five, three hundred ten pounds. See a powerful player,

1008
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: guy that flashes violence in his hands. He can create

1009
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: movement the point of attack. The thing with him is

1010
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: the hand placement is off a little consistency with his game.

1011
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: You watched him, Oh yeah, Oh, I thought I got

1012
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: you on that one. No, this was one because you

1013
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: had to watch him because he was at the Senior Bowl. Yes, yeah,

1014
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't even remember the Senior Bowl guy remember me? Yeah?

1015
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: I think the thing, the biggest thing he made was

1016
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: that about the hand placement always kind of fine. He

1017
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: felt like it was always that wind and I'm like, okay,

1018
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: you get if you don't put your hands in again,

1019
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: the guy's chest, he's gonna run you back. And he

1020
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: could get away with it a little bit. But there's

1021
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: you see him app State will always play one or

1022
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: two of those money games, and you see him kind

1023
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: of have some problems with the power the hands. He's

1024
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: a guy that he has experienced at center, has experienced

1025
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: a tackle, so he has that little bit of versatility

1026
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: with a position flex. But no, I think you're right

1027
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: his and he's not a special athlete, the power guy,

1028
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: so his skill set leaves very little room for error.

1029
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: So he needs to tighten up his technique if he's

1030
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: gonna stick in the NFL. Right, where do you have

1031
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: Cole Madison going or where do you have him playing? Uh?

1032
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: And as a guard? As a tackle? Washington State? But

1033
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: he's I think he's a guard. Did ye? I didn't

1034
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: mean to steal. I mean, okay, I'm m Cole Madison.

1035
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: I heard that, so maybe he's he's one of the

1036
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: he's my top guard when you get into day three. Uh,

1037
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: I think you know, we talk about the top three

1038
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: guards obviously, and then we have Braden Smith from Auburn,

1039
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: the Nevada kid. Uh. And then when he gets past

1040
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: those top five, Cole Madison's my sixth guard. That that

1041
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: we started getting in the fourth round. A player started

1042
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: talking about really interesting backstory because he was like a

1043
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver in high school. They Washington State brought him

1044
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: in as more of an athlete. He started in the

1045
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: wide receiver room when he got the pullman, but they

1046
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: bulked him up moving to tackle and he was a

1047
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: four year starter for them at right tackle. But that's

1048
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: the only position he's ever played. And so if the

1049
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: projection moving him inside six five, three hundred and ten pounds,

1050
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: but I think he could do it. He's the type

1051
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: of developmental guard I'd be looking for at some point

1052
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. Sorry, David, No, that was useful information,

1053
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: way more useful than me picking names out of the book.

1054
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: Interesting that he's the top thirty visit here. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

1055
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: I thought too when I heard the name I'm like going,

1056
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: huh it kind of it was one of those Uh well,

1057
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: and if you look at him, I worked down a

1058
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: little bit. I think you have him absolutely right. I've

1059
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: said it. I've said it. He was a wide receiver

1060
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: in high school, wide receiver in tight end, and that's

1061
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: he was kind of recruited as kind of like an athlete,

1062
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: and so they brought him in and I think Washington

1063
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 1: State was like his only FBS offer. So a little

1064
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: known guy. But the police yeah, you know, I mean,

1065
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: like I keep saying, obviously the majority of those guys

1066
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: are nineteen, but they're looking all through the spectrum. That's it. Yeah,

1067
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm also I'm trying to bargain hunt for a safety.

1068
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: Dane helped me out and tell me a little bit

1069
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: more about Quinn Blanding at a UVA. Yeah, who has

1070
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: some tough tape. Yeah. Now, that's the thing if you're

1071
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna draft a player based on resume,

1072
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: he's a first round player. The productions there. I think

1073
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: he has more tackles than in that linebacker. How's all this?

1074
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,479
Speaker 1: I liked Micah Kaiser's He's fine. I'm not talking about

1075
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: pick nineteen, but Okay, how does this guy put together

1076
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: this resume if he's so terrible. He's not terrible. He's

1077
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: just not very good in any one area. He is

1078
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: kind of okay. You know he's not saying I mean

1079
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: you you want to You're like, how does this guy

1080
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: do it? Yeah? And he started forty nine games he played.

1081
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: The one thing I kept saying is this guy does

1082
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: not shy away from contact. No, he is not. And

1083
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: but all the coverage and stuff he does is all underneath.

1084
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah you never see him have to, but you know,

1085
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't do anything where you're like going, they play

1086
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: a ton of zone. I mean all you do is

1087
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: see him yo, snap drop drive, snap drop drive, snap

1088
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: all the whole day. So, I mean I saw a

1089
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: guy where it takes him some time to turn. I'm

1090
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: worried about him as an athlete a little bit. He

1091
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 1: is a stiff player. And look, you're not a bad

1092
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: player when you have one hundred and fifteen tackles, oh

1093
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: every season all four years. Yeah, that's no question. The

1094
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: guy could tackle, no question. I just don't see a

1095
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: great athlete. And I don't see a guy with sounds

1096
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: like a guy that the dudes on the other side

1097
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: of this building would love well, just in time. I

1098
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: mean he sounds like Jeff Heath. Oh, he looks like

1099
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: a tape. I mean he's got lenked to him, but

1100
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: he just it takes him time to get going in

1101
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: and you just