WEBVTT - Episode 427 w/ CL Smooth 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:16.160 He is drink Chants, Motherfucky podcast man. He's a legendary 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:18.479 Queens rapper. He's agreed as your boy. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:18.880 In O r E. 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.040 He's a Miami hip hop lioneer put up as DJ 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:22.720 E f N. 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.720 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players, 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:26.280 you know what I mean. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:30.680 And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:32.559 source for drunk drink chans mother. 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:34.519 Every day is New Years. 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.640 Listen, It's time for drink Champs. Drink up, motherfuck mother? 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:45.000 Would it gonna be hoping to winter? Should be to 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:46.839 your boy in O r E. What's going on as 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:47.760 dj E f N? 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.200 And this is mindle tam crazy for a radio drink chests. 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:51.519 Have you ever made something that? 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:58.720 Now, when we started this show, we said we wanted 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.640 to give it to icons, We wanted to give it 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.040 up to legends, the people that came before us, the 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.960 people that came right with us. And when we talk 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:09.560 about the brother that's here, man, this guy has changed 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.600 the game. He literally could say I changed the game 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:17.800 from people going to whatever to people actually thinking about 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:22.320 their raps and being skillful. I went through this. I 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.480 believe when we go through these people, I've went through 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:26.960 this brother, music just kept going through, kept going through, 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.479 kept going through them. I'm like, damn, he could drop 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:34.000 this music now and it works. In case you don't 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.800 know what we're talking about, mother one only motherfucker see us. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:41.760 Now. 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:43.320 Now I'm gonna go off top. I don't give me 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:47.280 a drink. Listen, now you order the white Hennie. Let 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:48.120 me just tell you something. 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.920 I was so proud of you. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.120 Because let me just tell you something. You know, yah know, 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.840 because let me just tell you something. You are so unique, right, 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:01.440 and we've been doing this for eight years on nine years, right, 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.880 and this is the first time anybody ever ordered white handed. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.280 So say white hen. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:13.320 That's That's exactly what I expected from him to be. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:14.520 To be shocked. 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:14.720 Man. 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:16.840 But let's let's let's take this from the beginning. 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.720 Man. I've enjoyed researching you, knowing that you was coming 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:24.520 up here. I just enjoyed because you're truly a class 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.639 act man. You know what I'm saying. You're truly one 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:30.519 of those people that that at the highest of your career, 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.720 you didn't let it get to your head and I could. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.200 I mean, this is what outside of looking at you know, 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.600 you know, I always seen you with a stable mind. 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.079 How do you maintain that that that type of aura. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.320 I just think it comes from the people who raised you, 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:51.720 your upbringing, how they treated you in life. And I 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.160 always felt that you get more being humble, get more 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.679 being graceful and treating people the way you want to 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:58.200 be treated. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:02:59.680 That's how you get it right. 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.880 You know. My friend of mine, he always tells me 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.080 this buster rides local. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:12.079 You ever get that a problem? Not really, because perceptions 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:12.600 are different. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.519 A lot of times people think you're unapproachable, your mean, 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:21.480 and a lot of times I am right. I think 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.720 it takes humility to treat people like you want to 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:26.920 be treated. I think it takes a little bit of 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:31.080 mindset to put yourself in other people's spaces instead of yours, 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.960 and always thinking about you, you you, and think about 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.040 somebody else, and then your atmosphere and your surroundings begin 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:37.640 to change. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:39.880 Right, And a lot of people don't know being from 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:44.880 Mount Vernon, right, Mount Vernon is almost closer to the 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.120 Bronx than even Manhattan is so by hip hop. By 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.840 hip hop being the birthplace of the Bronx, I believe 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.320 that Mount Vernon was just as affected almost around the 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:56.440 same time is that. 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.840 That's a fact? Yeah, so how is that? 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.560 Because I remember go Mount Vernon, I remember that just 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:02.720 being hip hop everywhere. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.240 Well, it was a small town with a lot of 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:06.480 talent in it. 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.200 And a town like that, so small with a lot 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.920 of talent in it, it just stands out. When you 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.240 get into the Bronx, it may be, you know, there's 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.560 a lot more. It's a deeper water. You get to 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:22.280 the in Manhattan, it's a deeper water. Brooklyn Queens deeper waters. 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:26.640 But Mount Vernon is like a big lake, you know 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.880 what I mean, Just a big lake of talent, from 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:39.760 basketball to entertainment, to streetcats to philosophers, from people who 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.520 are spiritually inclined to people who are on demon time. 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.240 It's a little bit of everything in that town. 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.360 Let's flip around and bounce around a little bit. Because 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.240 I heard you say something, and when I met have, 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.320 I did it. I didn't know the word to describe Havelf, 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.080 but I think you called him the heart of the 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.240 heart of the crew, and they need to be I'm sorry, 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.719 I'm sorry, that's right, that's right, And I believe you 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.280 could describe him as a Don he was like, he's 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.880 like a Don and that's the word I always wanted 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.039 to use when I see like a lot of people, 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.160 Pun was one of my closest friends in hip hop. 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.640 But it wouldn't have been no Pun without Heavy D's. 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.360 It wouldn't have been no Big without Heavy D. So 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.120 for those for those that don't know, can you describe 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:28.200 Heavy D? 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:33.960 Heavy D was to me a class salute. I look, 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:39.719 that's right. My birthday, we were talking about a class act, 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:43.359 talking about somebody who was almost three hundred pounds. He 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:47.880 knows how to dress immaculately, holds itself in high regard, 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:53.120 knows how to conduct himself, and everybody on the planet's 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:54.200 mama loved Heavy D. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.640 Right, you know what I mean? You know it's crazy. 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.120 Before Heavy D, I didn't see like obese people be 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:02.960 proud to be obese or even. 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:07.320 Like hold it like that. The facts fato damn, you're right, but. 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.160 No, no fad boys first. 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.040 Fat boys is first. Nobody moved like head. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.000 Oh no, nobody was as graceful as Heavy Deal. 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:17.960 And it really dancing. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:22.239 He was really like feathery feet dances and everything dances. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.400 He was dancing keeping up with them right right and 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.240 breadth control and you were spitting times. 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.599 Absolutely, we're talking about man close to three hundred pounds 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.320 if he wasn't three hundred, right. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:38.120 And I just want to describe that era in hip 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:42.080 hop because I feel like I believe you discussed this 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.680 other day. I feel like that eighty eight early ninety 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.440 ninety one era and nineteen ninety eight is like one 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.320 of the greatest years of hip hop, and you played 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.000 in both you had. I think obum dropped in ninety one, 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.280 and I believe you came back out of the ninety 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:01.159 eight with running up right? Is that is that the 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:02.760 golden Here is a hip hop for you as well? 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.440 I think it was anytime you can get into a 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.120 genre of music and be a part of it or 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.080 I have something to contribute to it. Like my first 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:17.600 song was Johnny Gill Rubb You the Right Way, the remix. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.360 That was your first song. That was my first song. 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.280 That was the first official remix of hip hop being 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.640 on a record, remixed on the radio. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:27.880 I was the first. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.560 Ah, I'm not noting. I'm not gonna lie to you. 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:38.520 You might have the number one most requested song or 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.640 hip hop song of all life. If I'm at a 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.640 barbecue and they reminisced over you doesn't come on I 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:44.640 leave the barbecue. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.480 That it's such an importance. It's like, not just to 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.080 hip hop, I think, And you know what I limited 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.400 to hip hop? Hip hop is it is the song. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:56.160 I think. 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.480 At a time, I wanted to contribute so something that 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:05.400 was authentic, that wasn't an image that I'm trying to project, 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.000 but I wanted to give them an inside close feel 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.960 to what the plight of a black family is like 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:17.960 with nothing on it but an anthem, but a song 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:22.480 that a lot of people thought wasn't real, but every 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.080 part of the song is real. When they say when 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.200 these artists say I live my music, I definitely live 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.840 all of my music. It's nothing fake about my music. 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.520 It's all paying homage to the people who don't are 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.320 not stars, but they're stars to me because they allowed 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:40.960 me to have a life and a career. 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.320 And that came across from the music. And you know 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:43.920 what's crazy. 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:47.439 That record is so familiar right that like young kids 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:51.400 know it, but a lot of people don't actually get 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:55.480 that you're paying tribute to your man, Troy. Like this morning, 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:59.559 I was playing it and then I go to the 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.160 director rise and I go, you know what this is about? 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.200 And he looked at me and I was like, you 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:05.120 know what it stands for? 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.960 Right, Troy? They reminisce over you. 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.040 And you know he's young, he's young, he's a director, 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:15.520 so I like, I felt like I was like discovering. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.320 Like he was like what he like? He didn't know? 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.880 So that's how famous the record is that people couldn't 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.440 hear it, And like, did you know did you know 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.360 this record? Well? Because for lack of a better term, 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.559 that shit is going to outlive you. Yeah, it's gonna 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.120 be here even when when you were about around, did 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.200 you know there's gonna be a classic record like that? 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.439 I didn't know, but I knew I was writing something 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.680 special because I haven't heard it from nobody. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.240 You know who writes something special? 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:42.480 Right? 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.680 And you know you didn't hear it anywhere else? Right, 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.720 So you know you tapped into something. I just don't 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.640 know what it's going to do. You can't foresee, but 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.360 you know that you tapped into something that no other 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:59.480 artist is doing right now. It can come close, dear, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.520 Mama's close, right, but it ain't dead, mom. Dang. 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:04.760 If you looked. 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.120 At it like that and you were eighteen when you 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.800 made this record on twenty one, twenty one, twenty one, 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.360 You motherfucker's making this crash ass music as twenty one Steve. 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.000 Listen to reminisce over you. This is it lasting for 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.480 three decades and it's gonna last lor. 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.440 You ain't get no excuse, you the twenty one trash 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:20.160 you old rabbits. 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.760 You ain't got no excuse. He just said it. I 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.320 said it for him. Yeah, my bad. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.520 We were listening to different music normally we were listening 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.480 to We were listening the crates and crates of old music. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:38.720 Man that was educating us, to force us to put 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:42.040 out different music. You gotta understand what was out there, right, 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:47.600 Big Daddy came, Hoogi Wrapped, Heavy d Public Enemy. You 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.760 have all these groups. What do you have to contribute 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:55.520 to all of this? And to me, we're not really 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.160 the Golden era. To me, I feel like the Golden 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:03.040 era was a little bit before the eighties when I 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:04.080 was in high school. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:06.040 Get you part of go To. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.800 But that's such a but what makes you a great 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.120 artist as being a fan too, it's understanding. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.160 It's like it's like it's like. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.880 You're Floyd, but you don't recognize Muhammad Ali. You got 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.920 to re recognize Muhammad Ali to be a Floyd. To 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.680 be something in this game, you have to be sparked 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:33.760 by something. So with all that originality, did they know 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:38.800 they were original? Like nobody was copying nobody's slang, nobody's music. 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.640 They had the same producing it ain't sound the same? 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:42.000 Right? 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.360 Good point? How does that work? Good point? 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.840 And what you this is the thing though, late eighties 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.640 is definitely the golden era. But I think what you 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.960 guys did with this record and the whole project is 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.880 you allow the golden era to extend into the nineties. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.600 You guys, we wouldn't know if we didn't if Big 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.160 Daddy came. But it didn't help me with He didn't 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:04.679 helped me with CEO smooth name and being around and 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:05.839 being able. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:06.240 To talk to them. 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.240 They were accessible where where you couldn't catch a map. 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:14.199 But if you was with Have Have gravitated every type 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:18.959 of artist to his house. He was the godfather. It 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.160 was the godfather of what we were doing. It's just 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:25.640 that we were all young. We didn't recognize how it 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:31.160 was formulating. But Have was beyond his years in being 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.840 an artist and teaching you how to dress and talk 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:38.960 and articulate and conduct yourself because you wanted what he had? 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.800 What were life would have been like? Had have kind 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.800 of signed like y'all all been signed to have what 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:48.120 were life would have been like? 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:50.839 Because that's what I think he was. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.000 Being rich a lot quicker like that, we would have 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:58.760 been rich a lot quicker. It would have been more 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:03.240 catalog to pick from. Because now you have all this 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:08.400 wide open space of creativity, and he was a creator. 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:13.080 He was a super creator, the songwriter, a rap artist, 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:19.600 a director. What didn't he do? You know what I'm saying. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.319 So all you want to do is be like that. 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:27.360 If you're in that lane and he was life, you're 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:31.120 a super actor. So with those type of examples, how 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.439 could you go wrong? All you got to do is listen, Yeah. 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:35.920 Play the record has I just wanted to. I just 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.760 want to let people know how contagious this record is. 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:47.760 So will you my god, hold on? I always wanted 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.199 to know that part when you're Queen's wis in the 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.040 chapter You're not talking about the queens. 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:54.080 You're talking about a queen. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.280 I'm talking about a queen. 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.200 Always claim queen, but. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.800 I always queens. I know I was wrong. But I 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.040 always claim, But your mother's from Queens. 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.000 That's where we first. She's from Newroschelle. But when she 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.679 got married, we moved from New Roschelle to Queens. Wow, 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.880 which is a big, big, big, gigantic step. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:16.600 Oh wow. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.800 You know what I'm saying, From New k to Queens. 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.480 I didn't know that far. I did read your mom's 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:22.120 living in Queens. 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:26.160 She still does. Wow, that's what. So how damn so 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:26.560 you got? 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.720 You got Queens in you, you got newll and you 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:29.800 and Mount Vernon and you. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:30.120 Yeah. 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.520 So let's take it from the beginning. How did what what? 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:33.400 What? 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:33.760 What? 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:39.160 What made you start rhyming? What was your inspiration at 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:39.560 the beginning? 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:44.880 My inspiration was when I was fifteen sixteen, huh and 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:50.120 crack at first came out. I mean, I didn't really 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:54.800 know the extensive of how the streets had changed, right because, 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.360 like I said, I'm a humble brother. But I've always 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.640 been around good and bad. You know what I'm saying. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.880 It's never been all good. It's always been good and bad, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.640 mixture of real. But the bad ones, the bad ones, 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.720 they changed the whole perception of how I see people 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.280 on the outside, you know, Because I was going to 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.920 school with kids who didn't get their hair comb snotty nose, 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.360 brust their teeth close, wrinkled, but they switched up with 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.920 their brother. You know what I'm saying, just sharing just 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.000 that whole plight of her, of the black plaque, that 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:34.120 black plight. Right, And then when that crack came out, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:41.560 you've seen them same snotty nose, little nappier kids with 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:48.840 a ragtop, volver drop top bends, big jewelry, gold teeth. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:49.160 Now. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:55.320 So it changed the perception of me of how I 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.560 saw the street. And they always used to say, Yo, 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.800 you need to come with us, You need to come 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:05.360 with us. But I always felt that my destiny was different. 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:06.280 I wanted what you. 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.720 Had, I just didn't want to get it. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:13.480 How you got your fun, but I know it ain't fun. 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.160 Another one day, I had a bunch of cracks in 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.040 my pocket, maybe fifteen sixteen of them at Jamaica Park 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.120 and I'm talking to black Rock and Ron it's another 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:28.960 wrapped roop. So I'm talking to them and run drives 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:33.120 by and that smoke great tenth BMW, and I knew 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:37.520 that's me. Let me get my ass back to make 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:42.560 it happen. Because that's me And when I saw that, 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.200 that influenced me that and let me know that hip 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.440 hop is a major influence on kids, man, you know 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.640 what I mean, It's a major, major influence on kids 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:55.080 and how they see themselves and how you don't know, 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.760 just you driving by can spark a person to be 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.320 something and inspire something, you know what I'm saying. So 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.240 that was incredible for me to see that. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:09.760 Now I want to talk about I'm sure this group 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:14.080 inspired you. And in ninet ninety eight, I believe ninety 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:18.160 seven ninety eight, you got a chance to do something 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.640 back for them, which is Run DMC. Right, But Run 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:26.159 DMC themselves claim that y'all saved their career. 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.120 Do you understand how much of a compliment that is? 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.960 Like Run DMC said, if it wasn't for y'all to 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.520 do that record with them, that they record label was 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.840 going to drop them, and like y'all. 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.919 Literally saved them, talking about Down with the King. Of 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:43.600 course we're talking about down with the King? Did you 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:44.080 know that? 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.600 I heard them keep saying it. But when you're doing it, 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.080 you're not paying no attention. 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:49.960 Or whatever at the time. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.240 You're just doing this because I'm just doing it because 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:54.200 I'm in love with them. 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.760 Come on to me, Nori felt. 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.960 When I make a record with them, I'm official. 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:03.000 Okay, yeah, so. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.520 You're not even helping save your heroes. 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.600 Like I don't care about helping. Just let's make a 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:10.600 good night, yo. 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:15.200 That's what what make surprise me That it's sold more 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.480 than Sucking Seas. I couldn't believe it. Wow, it's sold 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:22.480 more than that. How is that possible? Because use the ship, sir? 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.560 I felt like that was so crazy. So you know, 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:31.439 I just want you to know. 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:35.879 See I shows about giving people they flowers leave ready 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.040 or at least out there? Okay, all right, cool, I 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.520 show and we wanted to give your flowers. My dude. 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.639 It's the very beginning of us starting this show. You 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.800 know what I'm saying, And we wanted to face the 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:52.960 face man Snoop Dogg, Sir, is better than the ground, 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.320 because you know what I'm saying, if you want to 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.160 give you your flowers, my brother, because. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:03.680 Wow, it's not just us. 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:07.000 I'm just and I said this on your intro, but 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.040 I want to reiterate that. I want to say it 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:18.080 before you dropped. It changed the whole rap game. You 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.879 would you were your floor was on point. It made people, 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:23.560 for lack of a better term, it made people want 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:29.600 to be smarter because like shit is just like I 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.760 can sincerely say this as one of my friends. I 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.560 know that if it wasn't for you, it probably wouldn't 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.960 be a nas you know what I'm saying, Like with that, 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:38.880 with that smart bars, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:39.840 Like And. 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.119 Was that something that you was trying to do, like like, 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.800 you know, educate people through the. 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:48.240 Music or was it indicative to the era? 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:48.920 Yeah? 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:50.760 I think it was. I think it was a little 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:51.200 of both. 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.119 Okay, yeah, because what I was trying to do is 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:59.320 certainly be different, but be articulate at what I'm doing. 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:03.720 I want you to understand my parents was for a 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:07.120 better term, they didn't understand the music, how simple it was, 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.840 I think because they weren't interested in the music. But 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.800 as they understood and they still didn't understand it, but 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.720 they understood what I was trying to present to them, 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.400 then they would put a whole different look on how 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:24.119 this young hip hop thing is. It's not just a 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.480 street thing, it's a culture thing. And that's what I 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:31.639 wanted to contribute something to the culture, not to the street, 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:33.120 but to the culture. 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:34.720 I wanted to be here. 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:41.920 I change the subject a little bit. I love to see, 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:45.960 you know, artists who stood the test of time. Yeah, 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.679 I can still go out there because you know, you know, 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.960 it's a crazy, fucked up shit about our culture. And 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:54.800 I'm gonna say it, there's no such thing as called 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.400 washed up and rock and roll. There's no such thing 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:01.560 called washed up and jazz. Mick Jagen can fucking tour 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.760 to the rest of his life at eighty you know 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.760 what I'm saying. What is that at eighty years old's sniffing, 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:08.280 cocing and biting a back, you know. 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:08.800 What I'm saying. 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:12.879 Like, So I love I love when I see I 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:14.840 think Buster said it on stage again, Sorry to keep 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.280 mentioning you bust it, but Buster said, you know, I 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:21.080 love when our OG's played the part because a lot 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:24.920 of times we are telling these young young children this, 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.199 this and that, but we're not doing it. So I 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:29.239 love the fact that, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.040 you know, we're still out here and tribute into the 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:36.880 hip hop like how we're doing. But what is your 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:40.280 favorite part? Is it making the record or is it 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:44.360 performing the record? Performing it performing it for some reason, 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:45.280 I just gonna say that. 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:47.719 But what I break it down, Well, because as you 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.760 as you perform more and more you grow, you get better. 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.880 You know what I'm saying. It's a one shot deal 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.280 in the studio. Either you're gonna get it right. Is 0:21:56.320 --> 0:22:00.560 it like that to Okay? Yeah, because I always wanted 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.919 to continue. So yeah, like you got one shot to 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:06.720 get it right, yep. And then when you get it right, 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:11.280 you got to get it right every night. So every 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:15.360 night you're preparing yourself to get it right. It's like 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:17.480 like when you perform, it's like a boxer. 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:18.800 You I take it seriously. 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.160 I don't know what other artists do, but I take 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.960 my performances seriously like a fight. I don't want my head, 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:29.679 rub my feet rub I know it's war, I know, right, 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:35.560 So I step into this zone of performance and then 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.840 when I get off, it's over. I'm back to me. 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:43.200 I'm back to my regular self. Are we ready for 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:44.000 Quick Time Slide? 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:48.560 Come on? She's Luisa's real. 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:50.880 I mean. The one thing about being on stage, though, 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.199 it's it's an exchange of energy with the audience, the 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.879 same for an artist for a DJ, and that's something 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:57.440 you like, not everybody could do that. 0:22:57.760 --> 0:22:59.960 I want to give them my energy. A lot of times, 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:04.480 most times I don't get their energy. I don't because 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.160 I don't see them. They're just things. 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:13.720 They're not I don't even see them. They're just things. 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:17.280 You have to really do something for me to stop 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.840 what I'm doing and look at you. 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:20.440 You know what I'm saying. 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:24.520 You gotta really yeah, you gotta really do something for 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.639 me to just check out of what I'm doing and 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:29.280 look at what this ship is doing. 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:34.880 You know, So I just see blur. I don't see people. 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.320 I just see me giving you what I'm giving you, 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:40.879 and whatever you're doing, that's what you're doing. 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:47.879 Let me ask you, what more do I mean? 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:48.359 This is? 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:52.560 This is me. This is my personal question. Do you 0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:55.399 enjoy being in the group more or being a solo 0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:56.080 artist more? 0:23:58.160 --> 0:23:59.280 I like, I like. 0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:03.679 I like a little bit of both, you know, because 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:08.399 I struggle with it because my heyday was the group, right. 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:14.840 But now I don't have to check in with nobody. 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:19.199 I don't have to worry about how the other person 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:22.400 feel no more, because it's all about me and how 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:23.000 I feel. 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.000 So if I don't want to stay, I don't have 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:26.520 to stay. 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:30.679 I can move and come and go and move how 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:34.199 I want, and talk how I want and display the 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.800 things that I want to do. When you with another boss, 0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.119 it's like a marriage. You know what I'm saying. You 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:43.000 gotta worry about what they do before you do what 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:44.800 you want to do, you know what I'm saying. 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.000 And they'll always be in question if you don't ask them. 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:50.800 So I like a little bit of both because I 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:54.240 like the successes with the group. But then I like 0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.800 me because I write my own ticket. I can go 0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:57.800 home when I want to. 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:01.199 It's like I heard you say, he was like, He's like, 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:03.359 I knew. That's why I knew he's gonna be on 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.080 time today. 0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:06.080 I knew he was. 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.119 Gonna be on top. I was like, I knew it 0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.240 he was. I was just watching mad interviews on you, 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:12.800 and I said, this motherfucker is not playing no games 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.760 because you look you do look at life like a boxer. 0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:18.840 I do. I do, I really do. I ain't gonna lie. 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:21.720 I was watching certain interviews of you and I was like, 0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:23.760 because it's not a lot, it's not a lot. 0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:24.680 I was like, damn it. 0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.320 And a couple of them I was sa, he's super serious. 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.080 I was like, yo, Dad, and then I was like, 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:31.680 you said, y'all, don't play with no one's time. 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:35.560 I was like fuck and I was stream and by 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:37.639 the way, I take pride on me early. 0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:40.199 But the person that he was wrapping up and he 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:45.800 just couldn't stop, so I couldn't stop him. But that's 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.000 the difference between me too, See me, I can relate 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.840 to you because I'm so obviously I did solo thing 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:52.840 and I did a group And one thing that I 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.840 started to notice when I was with capone like I 0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:57.280 couldn't change him to be like me. 0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:58.680 I can't change him to be on time. 0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:02.080 And the more the more that I tried to make 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.000 him like me, the more that he couldn't be couldn't 0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.199 be at all. So and I'm saying that in a 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:08.919 good way because what I know I had to do 0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:12.240 was kind of like let him be him. Did you 0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:14.080 ever feel like that and being in a part of 0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:18.000 the group, Oh yeah, okay, yeah, I know the answer, 0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.520 But IM asking the world. 0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:23.600 Here, yeah, because you're looking at you're looking at a 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:26.520 top five producer, right, you know what I'm saying, And 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.600 you're looking at somebody who wants to come late you 0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:33.040 on time, he's going to be late because he's going 0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:34.840 to be over here and doing what he loved. 0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:45.320 And my love is on time. You know, That's what 0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:45.960 I'm saying. 0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.000 And you know it's crazy people, people who's not in 0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:52.480 the group body can't relate to what you what. 0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:52.960 You just said. 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:54.040 It's so complicated. 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:59.840 It's so simply bad complicated because like you literally when 0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.200 you're in a group, even though it's two men, yeah, 0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:04.000 it could be eight different personalities. 0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:07.160 It's the Iley Brothers out there, motherfuckers, just tool y'all. 0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:10.159 But it's trust me, I know I've been through it. 0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:12.679 We got quick, Thomas Slime Ready, hold. 0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:13.840 The hold up before we go into that, because we 0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.919 started to talk about how you got aspired to be 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:20.920 an MC. But let's let's track back actually getting to 0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.160 the beginning of the groups, like how do you guys connect? 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:26.040 We connected in high school. 0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:32.199 It was all about these two young kids loving this 0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:36.040 old ass music, like old ass music means like the sad. 0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.680 None of none of our peers are listening to this. 0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.280 They're not. They're they're looking at us like we are crazy, 0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.159 Like what's wrong with you? Are you? Are you stuck 0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.720 in the time warp or Are you Are you chasing something? Yes, 0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:51.879 we are, we're chasing something. 0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.119 Are these your parents records that you're discovering these? Or 0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.120 this is just on your own? This is our parents 0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:59.639 raise their parents' records. 0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:04.040 We're doing We're doing things that teenagers are not doing 0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:07.560 and not doing it. That's like, that's like somebody saying, Okay, 0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:09.400 we're not going to the car veil because I got 0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:13.080 to watch my waistline in the nineties sun heard of. 0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.560 But for those that don't know, Carvel's ice. 0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:18.520 A mat of what you're eating. 0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.920 It's a matter of how you are disciplined in what 0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.240 you're doing. And we were discipline and what we were doing, 0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:30.199 and nobody was with it. Nobody could understand that concept 0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:34.080 of making music listening to these old records. They could 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.400 listen to the finished product, but not the old product. 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.000 And I think that's what we had in common, that 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.360 we loved this old music and we wanted to create 0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.720 something with it, and that's what we were doing with 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.800 the We started with pause buttoning and pausing in the 0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.840 music and looping it and we started from that here. 0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:59.560 We started from that and it became a bonding. It 0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.720 was three of us. It was like three of us 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.360 before then they came to because the other one went 0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.560 to jail and he didn't see the vision. So you 0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:12.200 gotta see the vision. It's a vision. You gotta see it. 0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.720 It's not just about putting yourself there and sign me 0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:17.960 and I got half with me. No, it's a vision 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.360 I want. I actually wanted to be better than that. 0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.840 I wanted his spot, you know what I'm saying. I 0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.440 wanted his spot because I saw it was so comfortable, 0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:30.760 was so natural, and I was a student of the game. 0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:32.800 In order for you to be a master, you gotta 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:36.480 be a student. Very true. 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:40.440 Are you ready to quick time with life? 0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:42.160 To him? The rules? 0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:47.000 This is our drinking game. We're gonna give you. Please, please, 0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.080 We're gonna give you two choices. Now, it's not to 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.240 this is not a negative thing. We we just want 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.560 to bring up people's names. Any stories you got, but 0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.680 you pick one. If you pick one, nobody drinks. If 0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.920 you say both or neither, which would be the piece 0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:01.480 the answer you just don't want to answer. 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:06.800 It not good. But you ain't taking the PC roud 0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.080 I can tell you, But give us any stories. 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.080 It's really about talking about the people and the places 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:12.880 that we're bringing. 0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:16.760 Up you know, I'll bring it up later. Okay, Heavy 0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:18.320 D or DMX. 0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.320 Heavy D because he taught me everything and I wanted 0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:30.959 to beat him. DMX that was my brother, that was 0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:34.960 my old geez, that was his baby boy. So I 0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:42.160 really fond sentimental value for him personally. Like, yeah, we 0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:46.000 go deeper, we go into the dogs, like my dog 0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:47.320 and his dog were. 0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:54.200 Brothers and like that. They don't know that. They don't know. 0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.400 They don't know about that because there's certain things that 0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:59.840 he has that I don't bring out, and this certain 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:03.360 things that I have that he doesn't bring out. But 0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:06.400 we have things in common. We talk about dogs. We 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.239 had the same dog, We had the same This is 0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.080 you know what I mean. This is how it is 0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:16.520 that dogs are related. Dogs were related. 0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:21.880 That's some that's hard that I ain't gonna lie. I 0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:26.480 was not ready for that. Okay, Tupac or Biggie, and 0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:30.600 you got stories of both of them, right, I like. 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:36.760 I like Tupac because it get all the bitches. 0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:47.320 Yeah you roll with Tupac. Yeah, Tupac used to be 0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:51.360 the weed man. Tupac used to That's the we got 0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.640 me and super Cat. That's where we got our weed. 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.160 From like he was buying it off for him or 0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.880 he was giving he was giving it to he was 0:31:58.880 --> 0:31:59.440 giving it to me. 0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:03.040 I would have bought it, get it twisted, but he 0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:04.600 gave it to Did you say super Cat? 0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.720 You and supercan super Cat with sweatiness? 0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.240 Dude for some mo By the way, I want to 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:11.560 see this nicture so bad. 0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:17.160 See how Supercat getting to weave from Tubac. That's a 0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:22.080 documentary in itself. Said god, you know, so this is 0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.360 on tour. This is just hanging with heav When with 0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:26.880 have you can see the whole world. 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:30.040 That's right, You're gonna see everybody, because he's a gravitator. 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.040 Yes, he gravitates energy towards him. 0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:39.160 Some humans they have that talent where he people come 0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:43.880 to him. They they man and woman, old, young baby. 0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.200 I don't know what he had, but I wanted it. 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:48.840 I was trying to rub off on him any chance. 0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.160 I did you did you get the did you get 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.640 to meet I know you got meet. Did you do 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.680 underground Tupac? If you ever got to meet death Row Tupac? 0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:00.160 Because wasn't the room where y'all was gonna sat to 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:01.000 death Row at one point? 0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.320 I mean there was a lot of rumors, but that's 0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.160 what it was. The rumors. Yeah, yeah, I just love La. 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.320 I didn't even care about he was smoking. 0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:10.560 Here I was. 0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.400 I was just cared about my weed in La. 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.640 Okay, But did you bet Tupac? I'm defro Tupac. I 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:24.280 met the death ro Tupop. But at that time, everybody 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:29.480 was scared of him. So I remember taking a cab ride. 0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:33.600 With Tracy Waple's one time. Yeah yeah, so. 0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.720 Oh that's Tracy Claverty from Tracy Ware Racy from a 0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:39.200 bad Boy. 0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.800 Here you go. So we I jumped out the cab. 0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.440 I see pop. This is when all the drama is 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.959 supposed to be. Hit him up right, all the drama. 0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:50.560 And I see him out in front of the hotel 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.440 and he got a crowd around him and he's smoking weed. 0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.280 So I said, I'm fiend and I just got out together. 0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:58.960 So I said, you know, and I'm going over there. 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:02.600 So Tracy said, don't go. I was like, I'm going 0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.400 over there. So I went over there and he's talking, 0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.520 and he's talking. I just take the weed out of 0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:13.240 his hands right here you go, and then go about 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:13.840 my business. 0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:14.240 Whoa. 0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.439 He was that type of guy. He was that type 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.960 of guy. Jesus, he was that type of guy I 0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:26.200 met Biggie, not Tupac. Biggie was just he was just 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.799 too smooth. He was just a smooth guy. He was 0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:33.360 just he was. He was actually more humble than I was, 0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:37.680 you know what I mean. He was he was, he was. 0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.600 He was a you could just tell he was a 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:45.000 special type of guy. And the type of stuff that 0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.160 Jay Black used to tell me. I used to be like, yo, 0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.000 Jay Black, because you know Jay Blacks from Mount Vernon, 0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:54.440 Belly j So we all grew up together. Yeah, we 0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.719 all grew up together. So you know, he always used 0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.160 to tell me about Biggie and I used to be like, 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.200 but damn, he don't act like that. He's like, Yo, 0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:07.520 you don't know Biggie like I do. I was like, Wow, that's. 0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:08.080 A bad man. 0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:12.120 Was when it happened to him. Yes I was. I believe, Yes, 0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:12.920 I was. Yeah I was. 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:14.799 And you saw him out there that I saw him 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:19.040 out there, and you know, you kind of knew what 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.480 what was going to happen when he got up there 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:25.560 on the podium, and I was like, damn, when he 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:27.560 got up there, I think I don't know what it 0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:30.520 was I think it was the the No, it was 0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:33.120 the awards and he said, what's up at. 0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.000 The Golden Globe? Or what was it? 0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.200 I think it was BT or something like that. It 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:40.279 was already said from that point. From that point when 0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:43.000 he said what up l A, I was like, I'm leaving. 0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.880 Why I'm leaving? 0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:50.000 Because you felt I just felt like he shouldn't have 0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:54.120 said nothing. You shouldn't even acknowledge them be in and 0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.399 out like NAS did, be in and out like cl did. 0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.720 Just be in and out. Yo, what up? You good? 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:04.520 I'm out in the next plane smoking. I think he 0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:10.320 stayed too long, you know. Damn, they don't get it twisted. 0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.480 I don't know why they don't think New Yorkers love LA. 0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:14.759 We love that ship. 0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:19.239 Yeah, you know see, let me, I'm gonna say something, right. 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.480 I remember us going to the source of wars, and 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:25.839 this is the source of wards. I don't know if 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:29.600 you remember that. Everybody got robbed in California. Everybody got robbed. 0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:39.680 I didn't get robbed, but but the fuck that part 0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:45.120 about it was I dropped that album that week similar 0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:50.000 to how Big did, and they forced me to stay 0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.360 because I went number one. Damn there everywhere but what 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:56.719 place l A l A. I did not go. I 0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:59.600 don't even got cracked the top twenty. So they were 0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.080 like you you you need to stay there and you 0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.920 need to put in work. So the record label did 0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:08.239 actually make me stay there. Now had something happened to me? 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.440 Is that the record label for? Or is that my 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.120 fall fall? Because I could have said, fuck them, I 0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.000 don't have to be number one here. I could get 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.040 out of here. But I didn't. I still not and 0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:20.080 I and I listened to them. But that was like 0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.759 the same type of thing that Biggie I think went through. 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.880 It's like like he was number one in LA is 0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:27.759 that exactly once? 0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.040 He was not one there? So he had to be there, 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.920 like he didn't have to be there that long. He 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.480 could have hit and run, okay, and he's done it before. 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:38.880 He's a professional, so he's done it before. He Hi, 0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:40.479 how you doing? See you later? 0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.040 And you saying from the time you've seen him. 0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:44.960 And I've seen that. Me and my girlfriend left. 0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:45.359 Wow. 0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:47.520 When I saw that, I said, something going to happen. Man, 0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:49.520 we you know we're gonna mess up our time here. 0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:51.000 I think we need to cut this short and go 0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.719 back to New York. Because I'm so used to having 0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:57.279 a good time in LA, Like I'm ready died with 0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:00.279 the I'm with the I'm with the criminals. So how 0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.400 am I get robbed? I'm with the I'm with the robbers? 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:04.400 How am I get robbed? 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:05.080 Right? 0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.239 People were telling them supposedly before he even went out there. 0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.440 I think J Prince said that he gave him my 0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:13.239 heads up. He said it on Drink Show. A couple 0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:14.279 of people give him heads up. 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:18.640 How we Tea made me leave? How we how we Tea? 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:25.279 You look rocks DJM Wow. Wow, it's it's too In LA, 0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:27.080 you could feel when something's going to happen. 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.359 Damn, you can't see in New York. I'm from there. 0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:33.279 I don't feel nothing. You have it right, you know 0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:33.640 what I mean. 0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.480 But in LA you could just tell something going to happen, 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:41.280 Like I know the difference between partying having a good time. 0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:44.560 And then not having a good time and something's going 0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:48.400 to happen right, And And to this day it's like 0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:49.319 it's like La. 0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.600 It's like a ghost of rappers now, like so many 0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.520 things happen to rappers and it's like it's not it 0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:56.800 doesn't even get solved. 0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:00.600 I just think they'd be in how could you had 0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:01.080 a pocket? 0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:03.600 It's such thing as you had a pocket. 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.840 But it's not just l a because Vegas Park happened 0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:08.000 in Vegas and there's but. 0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.960 I was late business l a business business. Let's not 0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:12.960 let's go nas or j. 0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:28.480 Mm hmmm. I have to drink. I don't. I don't 0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:29.319 think I need to drink. 0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.960 I just think that you know, it depends on what 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:35.439 what type of what type of. 0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:37.600 Energy and moved you want? It sounds like a drink 0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:50.560 to me. Man, mm hmm. The o g and you 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:52.440 ain't supposed to pick that one. Now, this one you're 0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:55.680 definitely gonna drink for. In my opinion, run DMC or 0:39:55.719 --> 0:40:03.359 the locks. That's your lawyer to you that, Yeah, I ain't. 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:04.960 You gotta take it. 0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:08.400 I know, I know, I know you. 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:13.759 Now, I know I know you. I need both. Yes, 0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:22.040 Joe Button or Gilly the Kid, I like the next one. 0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:28.360 You guys are funny. I like I like Gilly because 0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:32.839 Gilly's gonna make me laugh. And Joe. Butden, that's my man. 0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:34.839 But I'm gonna buy him. 0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.319 I'm gonna buy him something, something, something different to put 0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:44.160 on his feet. I wasn't ready wasn't something different because 0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:45.600 he got a lot of money. So they need to 0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.080 give need to switch it up. I like Gilly because 0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.760 Gilly gonna make me laugh. I'm gonna smoke my ship. 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.920 He what's the name? Might you know? Joe Button might 0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.279 find out? Hey, man, I don't like I don't like 0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.200 you today, you know what I mean? Gilly gonna like 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.480 you just because just because, Okay, I respect a million 0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:06.239 dollars worth a game. 0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:10.640 That's right, big both fuck shut up? Pete Rock or Primo. 0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:16.759 I like these questions, by the way, not me. 0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:20.640 I like I like both. I like both because they're 0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.640 both the same ship. But Pete Rock gave me everything, 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:25.319 so I'm gonna go with pr I like that. 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:31.560 I like k Capri or funk Flex. 0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:38.600 I love kid Capri, but funk Flex is my brother. Wow, 0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:41.640 so I'm gonna have to go with my brother, all right. 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.520 You know we like the muscle cars. That's that's what 0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.520 we funk with. Yeah, that's right, that's the muscle cars. 0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:49.000 You see that green joint. 0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:53.200 He gave me serious that to Reno for to Reno 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:57.120 five hundred, I just put everything new on that joint. 0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:01.480 I forgot you into the cars, into the Yeah I forgot, 0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:06.120 I totally forgot you the Duke Boys and Loop Duke that's. 0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:12.400 Okay, Brand Nubian or trick quest A brand Nubian. 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:13.279 Okay, that's right. 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:16.760 I love tribe because my brother's Fife Diddy. 0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:24.120 But yeah, gotta go rite it or baby Okay? Podcast 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:24.680 or radio. 0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.759 I would go podcast now because that's where it's at 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:33.160 and I like to be fashion forward. 0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.920 Wu tang or n w a. 0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:38.840 Wu tang because I'm a New Yorker. 0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:43.200 I respect that. Only built for Cuban links, a reasonable. 0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:48.759 Doubt, only built for Cuban links, because that's the workout ship. 0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:50.719 Let's connect politic deb. 0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:57.879 There you go, Juice or New Jack City, New Jack 0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.319 City Act? 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:04.960 Come on now, Gang Star or Eric B and rock him? 0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:05.800 Wow? 0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:11.120 Where the Hennessy White act? 0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:11.279 Though? 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.200 Another shot here? I got. I love that. I love that. 0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:16.520 Rest in peace Guru? 0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:24.360 Yeah cool. You know what I thought about recently was 0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:26.120 asked this. There was like, yo, Who's who's one of 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.839 your favorite rappers to drink with? I always forgot to 0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:32.279 mention Guru. You know he was a drinker. He was 0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:37.520 a super drink. Yeah who he was to drink? The 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:42.360 symphony or don't curse. Don't curse because I was on it. 0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:42.839 That's right. 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:44.160 God damn, I would have picked that too. 0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:53.600 That's a classic, man, little madic are ready to die? 0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:59.080 We can took a shot? Yeah, way too. You know 0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:02.160 you got I was trying to pull it out. I 0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:04.960 was trying to get get out of come analog or 0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:12.160 digital digital, this this. I'm very curious to see. Where're 0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:16.320 gonna go with your own TV raps or video music box. Damn, 0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:23.320 I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with video music box 0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:29.920 because because Ralph is my guy, and that was that 0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.560 was a little bit selective. You had to be a 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:35.800 little bit on a certain plane. They be on MTV 0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:43.680 raps commercial with Ralph, he serviced everybody way big from 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:44.360 the beginning. 0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:47.879 He serviced me when I was big the same way 0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:49.000 I was small. Wow. 0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:52.560 Truly covered. He covered it, and he gave me. He's 0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:55.520 the He's the reason why I was in their faces. 0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:57.080 He kept it playing. 0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:00.319 Did you see the Video Music Box documentary? Yes, I yo, 0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.320 that's it is hard is meant to do? 0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:04.120 Yeah? 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:06.239 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you said you're doing your own. I 0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.480 would love to do that. I would I would love 0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:10.000 to do that. I would love that. 0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:10.239 Hell. 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:18.719 Yeah, ice cubeball scar Face, I would do scar Face, Okay, yeah, 0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:22.360 like I love ice cube, man, both, I love ice cube. 0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:25.160 I mean, if you want me to drink the ice. 0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:30.520 He's he burns out to Scarface. I hope he gets better. 0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:33.400 Oh yes, man, I did. I didn't love scar Face man. 0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:36.360 I mean when they say he was sick again, I 0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:38.920 thought they are sick. I thought they meant from before. 0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:41.200 So he's proud enough again the. 0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.960 Hospital and then obviously resting pizzat Man Scoop. 0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:48.560 Oh Man, fat a first promo. Coonaega a first promo. 0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:51.080 That's for fat Man Scoop. He was the first time 0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.640 anybody ever heard of Copona Noriega because we were. 0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:54.520 And he was at Tommy Boy. 0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:58.560 I believe that's one. Yeah, I believe. I'm not sure, 0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.879 okay man, that deep? Thank you man. House of Pain 0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:03.439 or Cypress. 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:04.799 Hills, Cypress Hill. 0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:09.520 Okay, I love House of Pain, but Cypress Hill Man, 0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.680 I smoke with him. They smoke them in Red Man's 0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:15.080 session is the session. 0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:17.880 To be at? Mm hmm, that's the session. 0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:20.759 Hell, red Man don't smoke no more? 0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:22.560 No, that's is that true? 0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:27.120 With him? He don't smoke? Yeah, unless he's fucking with me, 0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:31.279 he's with you. I think no, I think I think 0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:32.320 he's bungee jumping. 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:34.040 Now, No, that doesn't mean he doesn't smoke. 0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.480 Yeah, I think that's a bungee jumping. 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:43.000 Come on, man, that's surprised him. Yeah, I think he doesn't. 0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.600 I swear to God, I think he doesn't. Let's look 0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:47.160 it up. I think that that's why he's doing. 0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:51.600 We're gonna have this smoke meth smokes. Oh yeah, yeah, 0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:54.200 you g care out cast. 0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:57.480 Yo. 0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.840 I love outcasts. I would have picked out casts. But 0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:06.719 that UGK, that pimpcy Man. I don't know, man, I 0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:11.680 just feel like sometimes I'm PIMPC you know what I mean. 0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:14.160 I just feel like walking around my house and doing 0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:18.680 certain things. I take his cadence, his voice, his the 0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.120 way he would deliver it. 0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:24.960 I'm PIMPC Man. He said. I would have never thought 0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:28.000 you would have said that like that felt like three thousand. 0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.080 I'd have told you how if I felt like big boy, 0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:31.840 I would have told you I love them. They're my 0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:36.000 They're actually as good as my group. I put them 0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:41.920 up there with Michael. But that PIMPC Man is He 0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:47.080 actually said somebody left too soon and then give you 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.799 a chance to get to the finale of who they are, 0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:52.200 the point of why they're here. 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.120 He didn't get a chance to get to that part. 0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:58.560 His impact would it would have been serious. 0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:00.440 What do you think about he said that Atlanta is 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.080 not the South. I still don't understand that. 0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:03.920 That's what I'm saying. 0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:07.959 He's his name would be pimp if he didn't talk 0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:11.439 like that. He said whatever he felt. It wasn't tough. 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:14.359 It was just to the point. You know what I'm saying. 0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.719 It wasn't tough. It was just it was tough, but 0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:19.680 it was. It wasn't tough. It was just a point. 0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:21.520 He was actually a good person to you know what 0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:26.839 I mean. Yeah, deep, yeah, peace penc common or most death. 0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:33.400 I like comment, okay, but most death. 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:35.239 You know. 0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:36.800 His answers are not answers. 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:40.880 It's like answered. 0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:43.080 But you know I got that. I got that from 0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:50.160 Terrence Crawl into nothing. I learned that. I said, this 0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:53.000 is a skill, this is a. 0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:56.800 I don't really have to answer. 0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:12.320 He just got to people, I'm trying to hurt you. 0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:11.479 Finish you were saying. I don't know what I was saying. Death. 0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:17.640 Good guy. I just like the way he moves. You 0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.239 know what it is not to get off base, but 0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:22.160 I'm gonna take a ride. Okay, if you see these 0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:26.040 new rappers, I don't know any of their music. 0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:26.560 They gotta have. 0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:30.200 They could have good music, but I'm more interested in 0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:34.360 their life than their music. Like what kind of cases 0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:37.040 you got, what kind of broad you got, how you 0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:40.480 spend your money. I'm more interested in your life than 0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:45.359 your music. And the way things are now it's displayed 0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:51.680 like that. Now, fast forward back to. 0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:50.759 The brother. 0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:55.200 Being trapped in another country and not being able to 0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:57.160 come back. And I don't know how true it is, 0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:59.160 but that shit scared the ship. 0:49:58.960 --> 0:49:59.319 Out of me. 0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:02.839 I was like, damn man, how you gonna get back 0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:05.279 to your kids or how you going to get back 0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:10.799 to your life? And he masterminded his way through that 0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:14.200 live in Spain. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if he 0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:16.760 live on another planet. 0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:20.240 He could get away from anybody he got. 0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:20.600 Past, for. 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:26.080 He's for real. I was scared to death. 0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:26.640 I thought he was. 0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:29.600 I didn't think he was gonna come back. I said, 0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:32.359 damn man, that's a hostage situation, man. 0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:36.200 But he did. He did it, man, so big him up, 0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:40.040 red man or method man that's the same ship taking 0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:40.400 a shot. 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:41.960 Yeah, that's the same ship shot. 0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:45.960 You can't even you know, Come on, baby shoppy birthday, man, 0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:56.319 that's right, happy birth Yeah, wish that the saki Mama Juana. See, 0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:58.480 that's what happens when you're when you're when you're moving 0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:00.680 up in the world thinking different. 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:03.359 He's gonna tell you it's moving down. 0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:08.160 And they make that. 0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:12.080 They make that in all it's a it's a humbrew. 0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:13.840 We make that in a tough with person. It's not 0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:16.560 in a tough person's feet and kindle. Don't you don't 0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:17.080 want none of that? 0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:23.239 Great? Yeah? Yeah, literally literally literally next one the far 0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:24.440 sider does effects. 0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:30.320 I like that, dos man me to. I tour with them, 0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.759 you know what I mean. I toured with them little 0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:37.080 motherfuckers with them dreads. Man. Come on, man, they don't 0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:39.799 got dreads no more, though they got seesus. I see them, 0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:43.800 see see, I'm it's like going to somebody's funeral and 0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:45.600 but you don't want to go because you want to 0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:46.279 remember them. 0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:50.960 Like that's my motivation them dreads. 0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:55.000 You know what. Wow, coming out the sewer, we get 0:51:55.000 --> 0:52:03.120 deep that we always wanted to be facts hold on 0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:08.680 all of us yes, no, no, no, and they still 0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:14.160 tear looking on the sidelines, like, what the what we 0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:16.839 got a problem? Okay, the last one for quick time, 0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:18.280 it was lived. Do you get back into the interview? 0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:19.560 Loyalty or respect? 0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:25.640 I like respect because respect comes with loyalty. 0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:28.120 That's real. I ain't gonna lie. We don't have to 0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:30.000 take a shot. But that was so great. 0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:32.759 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm taking serious. That was so 0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:36.480 that queen ship. That's that you make left right. 0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:42.880 Now? This is this is this question. I probably know 0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:48.160 you probably know what's going to come out. Can you 0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:49.640 and Pepe rock straight in it out? 0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:55.960 I think we could, Okay if you keep it business because. 0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:57.160 I heard you say that. I mean he said the 0:52:57.200 --> 0:53:00.920 same thing. He's keeping business. We don't have to have 0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:03.920 any feeling anymore. You just have to have that feeling 0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:13.400 of wanting to win. You're like, plus, yo, man, you 0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:15.120 brought him up. 0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:21.000 They talked about me last week. 0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:25.400 Okay, no, because you know why. You know why, and 0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:29.879 you know why because me as part of being a group, right, 0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:32.440 A lot of people don't know what it comes with, right. 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:40.359 So you took care of our whole childhood, you guys together, right, right. 0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:41.960 So we don't. 0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:43.680 I mean, this is me as a fan, This is 0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:46.920 not me as a businessman. As a fan, I feel 0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:48.720 like both of y'all can put it to the side 0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:52.640 for the sake of the fans. But I don't know 0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:55.360 really what it was. Was it a business thing? What 0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:59.239 was like? The was the was it? They say, the 0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:05.000 camera on the straw off? Because outside looking at I 0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:07.080 see y'all. I'm looking at the videos. I'm sorry to 0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:09.319 be along with it, but I'm looking at the videos 0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:11.600 and I'm like, I can't. 0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:14.640 See where it written wrong. It was such a good matchup, 0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:16.160 it so perfect. 0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:19.919 Now I'm naive now because I don't know the ins 0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:21.720 and outs of this. All I know is how great 0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:22.680 y'all are together. 0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:25.160 But don't we look at every group like that, like 0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:27.920 why would it be a problem? 0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:29.400 Like why would it be a problem? 0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:33.440 That's that's capone and that's nor Riegle, Right, what's the problem? 0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:37.799 If it works, it works. It's a problem when it 0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:42.080 don't work. But if it works, shouldn't it be easier 0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:45.919 if it worked? Okay, That's how I look at it. 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:49.759 But I also look at it as we were very 0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:57.600 young men and we came into this game nutty together right, 0:54:58.120 --> 0:55:05.800 So when we came up together, maybe other business pulled 0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:09.560 him in other directions and pulled me in other directions. 0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:15.480 You know what I'm saying. So at that time, what 0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:18.480 one point I could pick out of it? Instead of 0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:21.640 being picky, one point I could pick at it as 0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:27.680 he can be paid to stay home. I can't. I 0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:29.880 gotta go on the road and get my money as 0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:34.839 the producer. But you're going to pay him to stay home. Now, 0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:38.759 how do I get my money? That's the question, that's 0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:42.320 the million dollar question. How do cl get his money 0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:46.920 if you're keeping him home? And then, on a bonus clip, 0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:53.960 if you got my producer producing other artists while my 0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:58.000 shit is working, then I'm competing against me. 0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:07.120 And my man is helping. Let's soak that in. 0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:10.839 Let's soak it in because at the end of the day, 0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:15.799 it's not personal, bro, it's business. I want him to 0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:20.080 have what he has. This is his moment. Now what 0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:23.320 about my moment. I'm gonna have to go find my moment. 0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:26.920 I'm gonna have to go find it. So it's a 0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:32.760 different chemistry now set than what it was. What's playing 0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:36.160 with it the whole time. Now it's a different chemistry 0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:39.759 set now I gotta come with something else. Why I 0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:41.719 gotta come with something else? When I came in with 0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:46.839 the original shit, I wrote all my shit? Where's my peg? 0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:51.319 I ain't gonna get my shit from James Brown and 0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:56.400 Author Price all and all these other guys. Ohio plays. 0:56:56.440 --> 0:57:00.799 I'm talking about the records I paid for, Sam. How 0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:04.480 do I get my money back? Wow, it's a business. 0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:09.080 I love you, but it's a business. They love you, right, 0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:16.320 but you my business, So I love you different. It's 0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:20.520 my business. I'm gonna feed my man's in there now. 0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:23.720 They's six three and six two, So it don't matter 0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:28.080 no more. I'm free. But at twenty two, twenty four, 0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:34.000 these were my questions, right, So that's what it was. 0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:37.600 Back then, it looked beautiful on the outside. 0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:39.640 I'm telling you, it looks so sweet. 0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:44.000 On the outside, it looked, it looked it was a sweetheart. 0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:47.080 It was a it was a cream puff. And on 0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:52.800 the inside it wasn't no butterfly. It was bats. 0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:59.520 Jesus, it was creatures. 0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:02.680 Jewish creepers. Because I'm not gonna lie to you as 0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:03.720 a hip hop. 0:58:03.480 --> 0:58:07.040 Fan, to hear like I'm gonna be this is one 0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:11.280 million percent telling them the truth. I was on the 0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:15.160 internet searching and it said Pete Rock. It goes at 0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:19.600 see Smooth and it says this is Pete Rock and 0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:22.160 I would not click on it. I did not want 0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:23.400 to see it. That's how much y'all. 0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:26.040 It took a long time for me to even respond 0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:29.600 because I'm not. I'm not. I don't like I didn't 0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:31.760 want to click on it, like I don't like drama. 0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:35.840 But see, I know how he is. 0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:38.320 Now. 0:58:38.400 --> 0:58:41.880 I don't know how he is now. I'm gonna be respectful. 0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:46.480 I don't know how he is now. But yeah, eight 0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:49.760 years something like that. But before that, you could be 0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:53.200 around a person and don't know that. Nigga, Right, you 0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:56.640 know what I'm saying. Every if you're not evolving, then 0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:59.720 you're not living, You're not gaining, You not, you're not 0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:02.400 earn ain't nothing because you staying the same. 0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:05.360 All my friends that stayed the same, ain't with me? 0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:07.720 Right about that? 0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:13.080 Or you change cel sure enough? You into guns and broads. 0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:16.840 I'm into flowers and curtains. I heard you be guarded it. 0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:19.160 We don't want to talk to you. 0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:21.400 We won't talk. 0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:24.560 And if and if and if it ain't nothing growing 0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:29.960 around you, if ain't nothing that I said, flowers. If 0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:35.520 ain't nothing growing around you, watch his ass, because ain't 0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:39.720 you ain't watering nothing, but you ain't cultivating nothing. 0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:43.960 Nothing's growing around you. Yeah, that's a problem. 0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:46.800 So let me ask you because other than me seeing 0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:51.479 those two skits online, I don't feel like y'all went 0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:53.000 too far at each other. 0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:55.080 This is a long time ago now it was at 0:59:56.040 --> 0:59:58.640 I don't even feel that way no more because I 0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:01.880 got it out right. I let it build up and 1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.080 build up and build up and build up, and then 1:00:04.120 --> 1:00:06.720 I released it. So I don't feel that way about 1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:09.240 him no more. I don't feel that way about anybody. 1:00:09.920 --> 1:00:12.560 I want people to respect me like I respect them. 1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:16.280 But a man can't make you angry. A man is 1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:19.240 gonna make you angry. But how long is he gonna 1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:19.840 make you angry? 1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:19.960 For? 1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:22.600 I get that, how long you're gonna hold that four 1:00:22.680 --> 1:00:27.120 hundred pound gorell on your back till you release? And 1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:30.720 then are you gonna regret it? Or are you gonna 1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:34.560 stand on it? I like to stand on what I 1:00:34.640 --> 1:00:37.280 believe in, Like my music, you don't have to fake it, 1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:40.120 So why fake it now because you're angry or you happy? 1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:42.920 If i'm happy, I'm gonna show you my happiness. If 1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:45.800 I'm angry, I'm gonna show you I'm angry. But what 1:00:45.960 --> 1:00:50.560 is the solution? Though I'm a solution based nigga, I 1:00:50.600 --> 1:00:55.240 don't deal on emotion. I deal on solution. Do you 1:00:55.280 --> 1:00:57.360 have an answer for it? If you don't have an 1:00:57.360 --> 1:01:00.200 answer for it, then ridiculing me is not going make 1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:03.280 me do the right thing. It's gonna make me question 1:01:03.440 --> 1:01:07.840 your ability to lead me to the bag. 1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:11.960 What do you think have would say? 1:01:12.080 --> 1:01:12.320 Knowing? 1:01:12.440 --> 1:01:14.760 Would I know this is a what's that? 1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:15.960 What's that? You know? 1:01:17.760 --> 1:01:19.040 Heaf is a philosopher. 1:01:19.200 --> 1:01:24.800 He was something that have said, God damn, nigga, you 1:01:25.000 --> 1:01:26.240 never got your payday. 1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:30.960 Yes, it seemed like he would have been a fix 1:01:31.120 --> 1:01:31.800 he's a fixer. 1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:37.920 But he gave me. He did fix me with that line. Sometimes, 1:01:38.760 --> 1:01:40.720 in order for you to get money, somebody got to 1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:46.160 tell you something. He told me something. God damn, you 1:01:46.240 --> 1:01:47.320 never got your payday. 1:01:48.800 --> 1:01:51.040 So what was you supposed to do? Sit there and wallow. 1:01:51.160 --> 1:01:55.160 No, you're supposed to take whatever money you got and 1:01:55.280 --> 1:01:58.440 go make it your payday, put it into something else, 1:01:59.200 --> 1:02:03.680 Go buy something, flip it, go get some land and 1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:06.959 sit on it. Nobody got to know what you're doing 1:02:07.040 --> 1:02:10.920 as long as you ain't out here searching for the answers. 1:02:11.880 --> 1:02:14.560 Can I ask you talking about you never got your 1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:16.920 payday and going back to what you said about the samples. 1:02:17.000 --> 1:02:19.240 It has to do with the samples, the sample clearance, 1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:19.720 that's all. 1:02:19.920 --> 1:02:22.840 A part of what I'm saying is it has nothing 1:02:22.840 --> 1:02:24.080 to do with my payday. 1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:25.840 It has to do with business. 1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:29.680 If I'm paying for samples and I'm sitting home still, 1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:31.200 why am I paying for samples? 1:02:32.360 --> 1:02:34.440 So it does have to do with paying for No, No. 1:02:34.360 --> 1:02:39.280 I'm gonna say it again, if I'm paying for samples, 1:02:39.920 --> 1:02:43.560 like we're partners in this. Oh, I get it, now, 1:02:43.680 --> 1:02:49.200 we're partners in this. We got a bill here, right, 1:02:49.920 --> 1:02:52.960 I don't come with that bill. If I came with 1:02:53.040 --> 1:02:57.760 that bill, it would say, and they see, why OG 1:02:58.200 --> 1:03:02.760 cush my car, my new car because I gotta go 1:03:02.760 --> 1:03:04.480 to this studio with a new car. 1:03:05.400 --> 1:03:08.120 That's right, God damn yeah, How am I gonna feel this? 1:03:08.280 --> 1:03:11.040 If I don't have a new car, you gotta buy 1:03:11.080 --> 1:03:11.440 two of me? 1:03:12.720 --> 1:03:21.440 I gotta, yes, come on, So so we got a budget, 1:03:22.560 --> 1:03:27.040 worked like you got a budget. So now nothing else matters, 1:03:27.320 --> 1:03:33.800 but this project nothing else. So I know when I 1:03:33.840 --> 1:03:35.760 pay this, I'm gonna go on the road and get 1:03:35.800 --> 1:03:38.320 my money back. That's like when a nigga go re up, 1:03:39.240 --> 1:03:41.400 he going out on the block to get his money back. 1:03:42.360 --> 1:03:44.560 I'm not paying for nothing and I can't get my 1:03:44.640 --> 1:03:47.760 money back. Come on, how am I gonna be a 1:03:47.760 --> 1:03:50.400 good partner you there? How am I going to be 1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:54.240 a good businessman for you if I don't get my 1:03:54.280 --> 1:04:00.280 money back? So, no, we never got our paydaby, because 1:04:00.280 --> 1:04:01.320 we never worked it out. 1:04:01.560 --> 1:04:02.600 So what have said? That's you? 1:04:02.800 --> 1:04:06.120 He meant you, And before he died he said, Yo, 1:04:06.280 --> 1:04:09.880 I'm just so hurt that you never y'all niggas never 1:04:09.960 --> 1:04:12.880 worked it out to get your payday. You know, y'r 1:04:12.960 --> 1:04:16.120 niggas never worked it out to say, Hey, fuck all 1:04:16.120 --> 1:04:21.480 that right, let's get work, let's go, you know, work. 1:04:22.840 --> 1:04:25.080 I'm not asking for you to be my brother, no more. 1:04:25.080 --> 1:04:29.440 I'm not asking you to be my friend. I'm asking 1:04:29.480 --> 1:04:34.120 you to work, right, just work, just just work. And 1:04:34.160 --> 1:04:36.440 I'm not asking you to necessarily do it for me 1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:42.800 Because now I understand. I understand that the fans gave 1:04:42.880 --> 1:04:46.920 us a lot. We owe him. They bought a couple 1:04:46.920 --> 1:04:49.920 of houses, a couple of cars for us they bought. 1:04:50.040 --> 1:04:54.040 They gave us a few budgets, like, so can't you 1:04:54.120 --> 1:04:56.320 just give them something back, like just. 1:04:59.400 --> 1:04:59.920 Getting something. 1:05:00.240 --> 1:05:01.760 I'm not asking you to say. Yo. 1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:06.920 Now we're gonna have tea together every Tuesday. Let me 1:05:07.080 --> 1:05:10.640 love you from afar. Now, I love in the space 1:05:10.680 --> 1:05:13.520 you at will come and I love it because that 1:05:13.600 --> 1:05:17.240 means you in a good mood. You're in a good space. Okay, 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:20.760 take my good space and come to your good space. 1:05:21.480 --> 1:05:24.160 And let's give something back to the to the culture. 1:05:25.560 --> 1:05:29.040 Not because I'm pleasing you and you're pleasing me, because 1:05:29.080 --> 1:05:31.800 the fans want that, right they do. 1:05:35.320 --> 1:05:38.440 Let me ask you, coming from from an era that 1:05:38.520 --> 1:05:42.080 I'm a part of, right, meaning like almost analogue, right 1:05:43.160 --> 1:05:46.320 where the records have to be made together. Right, let'spost 1:05:46.320 --> 1:05:49.400 peak tomorrow, says Yeah, I'm gonna send you ten beats. Right. 1:05:49.920 --> 1:05:52.280 Would you want to record those beats with him in 1:05:52.360 --> 1:05:54.240 the studio or would you want to stay in the 1:05:55.240 --> 1:05:56.560 confinement of your own. 1:05:56.360 --> 1:05:59.400 Place, whatever makes him comfortable, Because I'm prepared to. 1:05:59.360 --> 1:06:01.040 Do what's better. It's the project done. 1:06:01.080 --> 1:06:06.440 Whatever I'm flipping you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you 1:06:06.720 --> 1:06:11.000 I'm gonna do what needs to be done. Because I 1:06:11.080 --> 1:06:14.400 told you my ego was out the door. I'm ready 1:06:14.480 --> 1:06:19.280 to be strong. Fine ego and tough don't mean strong. 1:06:19.600 --> 1:06:26.520 It don't equite strong. Bad association spoils useful habits. So 1:06:26.600 --> 1:06:28.680 I'm not coming with a bunch of niggas to prove 1:06:28.760 --> 1:06:31.040 to you I'm strong. I'm coming to you by myself 1:06:31.080 --> 1:06:33.960 to prove that you am intelligent enough to get it 1:06:34.080 --> 1:06:37.840 the job done. That's the only thing that matter, because 1:06:37.840 --> 1:06:39.720 you ain't gonna be looking at me if the job 1:06:39.800 --> 1:06:43.280 don't get done. You ain't gonna look at me. You're 1:06:43.280 --> 1:06:46.000 gonna look at me when it gets done. And you say, yo, 1:06:46.440 --> 1:06:49.320 where you get that drill from? Where you get that 1:06:49.520 --> 1:06:53.640 hammer from? Where you get that nail? From here? Because 1:06:53.680 --> 1:07:02.000 I put it together because there's no simple clearance. 1:07:02.160 --> 1:07:08.360 Yes, I'm just being honest, even me hearing your voice, 1:07:08.680 --> 1:07:11.520 like I could just say, I'm just a fan of it. 1:07:11.640 --> 1:07:12.240 You know what I'm saying. 1:07:12.440 --> 1:07:18.720 I just sounds just like the records I love to add. 1:07:19.680 --> 1:07:22.720 You know, I'm a very naive person. I realized that, 1:07:22.800 --> 1:07:26.720 like I realized that, like Reby Mad laughed at me 1:07:26.800 --> 1:07:28.240 when I told her, I was like, yo, I think 1:07:28.400 --> 1:07:29.920 I want a Terror Squad Reunion. 1:07:30.120 --> 1:07:33.320 She was like, you mean the Terror Squad and. 1:07:33.240 --> 1:07:33.880 I was like yeah. 1:07:34.040 --> 1:07:37.480 She laughed so hard. I was like, I didn't realize 1:07:37.480 --> 1:07:42.120 how gullible I was. But I want that. I wanted 1:07:42.160 --> 1:07:43.880 the last album by you and Pete. 1:07:43.880 --> 1:07:47.240 You know what I'm saying. And again I tried to 1:07:47.440 --> 1:07:49.960 not get into, you know, the personals because I don't 1:07:50.000 --> 1:07:50.360 really know. 1:07:50.400 --> 1:07:52.400 I don't want to get into them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:07:52.960 --> 1:07:54.720 I don't want to be personal because I got my 1:07:54.800 --> 1:07:57.640 own personal business, right, so I don't want to be personal. 1:07:57.640 --> 1:08:01.160 I just want to do business if if it's healthy. 1:08:01.760 --> 1:08:06.720 If it's not healthy for him, then okay, I can 1:08:06.800 --> 1:08:07.600 understand that. 1:08:08.120 --> 1:08:10.880 Then you's telling me I'm not ready for it. 1:08:11.160 --> 1:08:13.680 I'm ready for anything that's going to close the chapter 1:08:14.640 --> 1:08:19.880 that's going, that's going keep it, taking off this question 1:08:20.040 --> 1:08:22.000 mark and put it on a closure. 1:08:22.400 --> 1:08:28.160 We close that book with yeah, no more underline. 1:08:28.560 --> 1:08:32.559 So in your opinion, what do you think it's stopping 1:08:32.640 --> 1:08:36.200 him from doing that? In your opinion, like I said, 1:08:36.280 --> 1:08:37.439 we can't speak for him, but. 1:08:38.840 --> 1:08:40.840 Certain things you can't have an opinion on. 1:08:41.760 --> 1:08:44.439 Certain things you can't think about if you're going to 1:08:44.520 --> 1:08:47.240 do it, if you're really gonna do it, nor you 1:08:47.280 --> 1:08:52.320 can't think about him, you gotta think about it. I'm 1:08:52.320 --> 1:08:54.719 gonna think about you when you come to me with it. 1:08:55.160 --> 1:08:56.880 When you don't come to me with it, I'm not 1:08:56.920 --> 1:09:00.320 thinking about you. I'm happy for you because you in 1:09:00.360 --> 1:09:02.920 a good space, because I don't want you coming into 1:09:02.920 --> 1:09:06.439 my space messing it up. When you when you trail blaze, 1:09:07.000 --> 1:09:10.479 that makes my road easier. When you don't trail blaze, 1:09:11.200 --> 1:09:15.320 then that makes my road harder. So you don't have 1:09:15.400 --> 1:09:21.520 to be together in life. You together in life, spiritually 1:09:21.600 --> 1:09:24.439 you together. You might not be down with each other 1:09:24.520 --> 1:09:28.559 or like each other, but in the fans' eyes you together. 1:09:28.840 --> 1:09:32.519 You one thing. Y'all just doing your own thing. 1:09:33.360 --> 1:09:37.000 But I was always taught in business, give them your 1:09:37.040 --> 1:09:41.920 best sell give them, give them your best product. Don't 1:09:41.920 --> 1:09:44.679 hold it five years from now and think they're gonna 1:09:44.680 --> 1:09:48.360 it's gonna be worth that. Don't give it me ten 1:09:48.439 --> 1:09:52.439 years from now and think that I could jump like that. Nah, 1:09:52.479 --> 1:09:55.040 there's only a certain space you could jump like that 1:09:56.160 --> 1:10:01.320 and work like that and real realistically in the book 1:10:01.360 --> 1:10:07.799 of life, it's closing because we in a black culture 1:10:08.600 --> 1:10:10.519 with the door closes quick. 1:10:11.840 --> 1:10:15.200 Do you understand only the only the smart. 1:10:15.240 --> 1:10:17.920 See, you can be tough halfway, but then how do 1:10:18.000 --> 1:10:22.960 you get to the finish line? Being smart? You understand. 1:10:23.400 --> 1:10:26.960 So if your life ain't good, how your career gonna 1:10:26.960 --> 1:10:29.720 be good. Your life gotta be good now for you 1:10:29.800 --> 1:10:33.080 to make your career good. So anything you do, you 1:10:33.200 --> 1:10:36.040 loving it. But when you when you got a nagging 1:10:36.120 --> 1:10:39.639 wife and your kids is hungry and your grandkid don't 1:10:39.640 --> 1:10:41.600 know where it's coming from. 1:10:41.240 --> 1:10:41.960 Then you don't. 1:10:42.280 --> 1:10:45.160 You ain't got you ain't you ain't part. You don't 1:10:45.200 --> 1:10:49.519 got the wheel. I got the wheel, bro, I got 1:10:49.560 --> 1:10:54.519 the table. I got the table right now. So in 1:10:54.600 --> 1:10:58.519 my world, in my life, I feel like my private 1:10:58.560 --> 1:11:02.759 life is way more to resting in my career because 1:11:03.280 --> 1:11:06.360 I'm into it because that's what's going to hold up 1:11:07.479 --> 1:11:10.479 my career. If I got to look at my career 1:11:10.760 --> 1:11:13.840 to feed it then And no, you need your moves, bro, 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:18.439 your moves to love him and respect him for what 1:11:18.560 --> 1:11:22.840 he gave you. Because you're different. Why you're gonna be 1:11:22.920 --> 1:11:27.160 mad at him? Because he different? Everybody different? You know 1:11:27.200 --> 1:11:31.160 what I'm saying, Treat people like you want to be treated, though, 1:11:31.800 --> 1:11:36.639 I'm serious, because it's too too many people dying for nothing, 1:11:37.120 --> 1:11:40.280 too many people getting hurt for nothing, and I'm saying, 1:11:40.960 --> 1:11:44.680 you got a bag and you still hanging with homie 1:11:44.680 --> 1:11:47.519 who wants you to die, who wants you. 1:11:47.520 --> 1:11:48.280 To not live. 1:11:48.400 --> 1:11:53.439 He want to unlive you unless you pay him. You 1:11:53.479 --> 1:11:56.960 know what I'm saying. See, my life is pure, my life. 1:11:57.320 --> 1:12:01.320 I didn't get to these age lucky. I got to 1:12:01.400 --> 1:12:06.599 this age strategically because I don't put myself around good 1:12:06.720 --> 1:12:07.400 and bad. 1:12:08.560 --> 1:12:11.400 It wasn't all good and what isn't all bad? 1:12:13.000 --> 1:12:20.599 That's real? So let me ask, right, because I don't 1:12:20.600 --> 1:12:25.160 know if I heard this recently. It was a rumor that, 1:12:25.280 --> 1:12:28.519 like you know, Eric Being rock Him Rock the first 1:12:28.560 --> 1:12:32.840 album that they dropped Eric Being Rock Him. I believe 1:12:32.880 --> 1:12:37.720 all of the monies went to Eric and then it 1:12:37.800 --> 1:12:40.960 was supposed to some shit like that, right where like 1:12:41.160 --> 1:12:42.840 that's the reason why you don't have no more Eric 1:12:42.880 --> 1:12:46.400 Being Rock Him albums because one budget went to one 1:12:46.439 --> 1:12:48.360 and when it came time for the other time to 1:12:48.400 --> 1:12:51.519 be to get the budget, there wasn't to be found. 1:12:51.560 --> 1:12:53.800 That's just the rumor. I have no facts of that. 1:12:54.400 --> 1:12:57.160 It was was that the part of the breakup was 1:12:57.320 --> 1:12:59.360 it my money. Never had problem with money? 1:12:59.560 --> 1:13:03.720 Wow, yo, Never one time did I have problem with 1:13:03.880 --> 1:13:07.280 money with him. Wow, I could, I could think of something, 1:13:07.840 --> 1:13:10.439 and I could think of one thing, but it ain't. 1:13:10.479 --> 1:13:13.640 It's petty. Wow, it's petty, and it's only going to 1:13:13.640 --> 1:13:16.280 open up a door. No, no, no, no, no, no, 1:13:16.439 --> 1:13:19.360 it's never been because we're on different levels of things 1:13:19.360 --> 1:13:20.479 when it comes to these women. 1:13:21.280 --> 1:13:24.000 You know what I'm saying. He was married a majority 1:13:24.040 --> 1:13:24.519 of the time. 1:13:24.680 --> 1:13:34.439 Okay, he was out there. I was strategic with so 1:13:34.479 --> 1:13:36.320 it was going to take a certain type of woman 1:13:37.840 --> 1:13:39.720 to bring me to where I want to go as 1:13:39.720 --> 1:13:45.040 a man, and that's what I got. But you know 1:13:45.080 --> 1:13:48.840 what I'm saying, right, So, yeah, we were living two 1:13:48.920 --> 1:13:52.400 different lives, but parallel to where we gotta go to 1:13:52.479 --> 1:13:55.320 get to where we need to get to get peace 1:13:55.479 --> 1:14:00.840 and tranquility, because a lot of times money is not 1:14:01.400 --> 1:14:02.760 the happiness. 1:14:03.240 --> 1:14:07.479 It's not. It's good to have when you want. 1:14:07.320 --> 1:14:11.599 To get problems out the way and fight wars. That's 1:14:11.600 --> 1:14:15.160 the only thing it's for. It's not for nothing else. 1:14:15.200 --> 1:14:18.080 It's not to dress up and be cute. It's to 1:14:18.160 --> 1:14:22.000 fight wars and make sure my family and my table 1:14:22.080 --> 1:14:23.320 and my wheel is turning. 1:14:24.120 --> 1:14:24.639 That's it. 1:14:25.640 --> 1:14:28.439 I don't need nothing else because I'm at a level 1:14:28.479 --> 1:14:31.920 where I just want to create. I just want to 1:14:32.000 --> 1:14:36.360 ride my muscle car. I'm an introvert. I don't really 1:14:36.400 --> 1:14:38.040 need a lot of company, you know what I'm saying. 1:14:38.200 --> 1:14:41.320 I don't need a lot of validation. I just want 1:14:41.360 --> 1:14:45.559 everybody to be good. When I see you eating, when 1:14:45.600 --> 1:14:48.760 I see your button eating, when I see Gilly the 1:14:48.840 --> 1:14:53.479 Kid eating, when I see these people eating, I'm happy 1:14:54.080 --> 1:14:59.440 because that's one less nigga with a gun. 1:15:01.720 --> 1:15:01.920 Right. 1:15:03.920 --> 1:15:08.680 We don't need it because there's so much violence in 1:15:08.720 --> 1:15:09.799 this culture now. 1:15:10.640 --> 1:15:13.719 And that Biggie poc ship is like. 1:15:13.680 --> 1:15:19.280 A acorn, and this ship is like a boulder, and 1:15:19.320 --> 1:15:23.960 our ship is like a little acorn. Now, I'm talking 1:15:24.040 --> 1:15:29.599 about how the culture is nor where death is a 1:15:29.720 --> 1:15:33.240 part part of the culture now of it. Now what 1:15:33.520 --> 1:15:35.280 I don't know none of your music, but I know 1:15:35.360 --> 1:15:39.200 you're in Rikers Island, right, I know you got seven 1:15:39.240 --> 1:15:42.960 eight million dollars and you on Rikers Island. 1:15:44.200 --> 1:15:46.000 That is blowing my mind. 1:15:47.360 --> 1:15:51.559 I thought we were doing it to get out, get out, 1:15:51.560 --> 1:15:53.599 make the money, and get out. They make the money, 1:15:54.800 --> 1:15:56.920 run it in. Yeah, you're right, You're right. 1:15:58.479 --> 1:16:01.320 I don't but somebody is making the money. 1:16:02.520 --> 1:16:06.759 Do you ever buy into the concept of the theory 1:16:07.360 --> 1:16:09.280 that Ice Cuban. A couple of people have said about 1:16:09.320 --> 1:16:12.200 the private prisons and the record labels being in kohoops 1:16:12.240 --> 1:16:12.720 with each other. 1:16:12.960 --> 1:16:15.280 I wouldn't listen. It seems like what. 1:16:15.439 --> 1:16:18.320 I wouldn't doubt it when I know that these millionaires, 1:16:18.560 --> 1:16:22.840 most of their investments are a prison. If I'm a billionaire, 1:16:23.080 --> 1:16:26.000 I got a prison. How am I not going to 1:16:26.080 --> 1:16:28.719 have a militia in an army and don't have a prison. 1:16:29.760 --> 1:16:34.640 Come on, bro, Even even Pablo had a prison. 1:16:35.360 --> 1:16:38.360 That he can imprisoned himself and he got out of himself. 1:16:38.439 --> 1:16:39.519 Iblo had a prison. 1:16:39.560 --> 1:16:42.760 Bro. Money could do a lot of things. That don't 1:16:42.760 --> 1:16:45.280 mean you're gonna do the right thing with it. Well, 1:16:45.320 --> 1:16:47.080 you could have a lot of money and do the 1:16:47.120 --> 1:16:51.120 wrong thing with it and sustain it because that's your thing, 1:16:51.240 --> 1:16:53.280 that's your mentality, that's your mind. 1:16:54.439 --> 1:16:58.559 My thing is peace on earth because my people need it. 1:16:59.200 --> 1:17:02.599 Like they just had a meeting in la which got 1:17:02.600 --> 1:17:05.120 nothing to do with a New Yorker, but I respect 1:17:05.120 --> 1:17:06.719 it because it's black business. 1:17:07.200 --> 1:17:07.360 Y g. 1:17:07.840 --> 1:17:10.160 He did the peace walk. After that, they did the 1:17:10.200 --> 1:17:10.880 crypts did the. 1:17:12.479 --> 1:17:16.000 Sixties and all the way from the forties year because 1:17:16.040 --> 1:17:18.160 I'm a historian of black people. 1:17:19.080 --> 1:17:21.120 I'm a historian of black culture. 1:17:21.640 --> 1:17:26.160 Like one of my idols is a cryp from when 1:17:26.200 --> 1:17:30.639 I was a young kid, og Turtle. But I don't 1:17:30.720 --> 1:17:35.760 say anything because I get what I get out of it, 1:17:36.680 --> 1:17:43.880 and that's his hustle, his vision, his mentality, his swag. 1:17:44.160 --> 1:17:46.840 I'm a New Yorker. I love swag that attracts me. 1:17:47.760 --> 1:17:51.120 So I love this cause I loved his being. I 1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:55.120 loved his the way he functioned. He was a high 1:17:55.240 --> 1:17:59.360 function in person. So a lot of people don't know. 1:18:01.120 --> 1:18:04.080 I'm a world I think for the world. I don't 1:18:04.120 --> 1:18:06.479 think like a hood nigga no more. I think like 1:18:06.560 --> 1:18:11.520 the world. In all the world, there's hood niggas in it. Absolutely, 1:18:11.880 --> 1:18:13.880 you know what I'm saying. There's nothing but hood niggas 1:18:13.880 --> 1:18:16.800 in it. I learned that in Paris. 1:18:17.479 --> 1:18:18.000 You know what I mean. 1:18:18.000 --> 1:18:21.120 It's hood niggas everywhere. This hood is speaking all types 1:18:21.160 --> 1:18:21.479 of shit. 1:18:21.600 --> 1:18:22.160 Take hood. 1:18:22.439 --> 1:18:25.360 You know what I'm saying, And you'll calm down by 1:18:25.479 --> 1:18:29.840 force or by relation, it's however you want to do it. 1:18:30.240 --> 1:18:34.760 But in my heart, I love I know how important 1:18:35.000 --> 1:18:37.040 it is for the black man to have peace in 1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:43.360 his life, have some direction, and purpose, because it's ten 1:18:43.400 --> 1:18:46.840 times harder for us, it's ten times harder for a 1:18:46.880 --> 1:18:50.920 Spanish man. It's ten times harder. If I was white, 1:18:51.280 --> 1:18:54.439 I'd be in the stratosphere with what I wrote. I 1:18:54.520 --> 1:18:57.439 thought about that a year ago. I said, if a 1:18:57.479 --> 1:19:03.040 white man wrote Reminisce, Wow, Wow, what. 1:19:02.960 --> 1:19:03.439 Would he have? 1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:11.040 He'd have ten times more than what Corey pingut. How 1:19:15.200 --> 1:19:19.120 it's big. It's big. What the plight of a man 1:19:19.240 --> 1:19:21.280 has to go through when he's colored? And it's all 1:19:21.320 --> 1:19:24.640 over the world. I didn't listen. I grew up in 1:19:24.640 --> 1:19:26.960 New York, the Old New York, the New New York. 1:19:27.000 --> 1:19:29.360 I'm not a fan of the only thing I'm a 1:19:29.400 --> 1:19:32.040 fan of is everything is right there. I don't got 1:19:32.160 --> 1:19:35.120 to walk nowhere. Everything when I go outside is right there. 1:19:35.600 --> 1:19:38.280 The Jordan's is right there, the underwears is right there, 1:19:38.280 --> 1:19:42.120 the T shirts is right there, the socks is right there. 1:19:43.320 --> 1:19:46.160 In the restaurant might be a mile away, but I 1:19:46.160 --> 1:19:50.599 could walk. Can you walk? Can you walk? 1:19:52.200 --> 1:19:55.120 I done got all types of money, and niggas can't walk. 1:19:56.560 --> 1:19:59.800 I don't understand it. You mean you can't walk in 1:19:59.840 --> 1:20:00.519 this jungle? 1:20:00.560 --> 1:20:03.120 No more? Then you don't need to be in this jungle. 1:20:03.160 --> 1:20:03.519 No more. 1:20:03.720 --> 1:20:06.599 That's why I got money to walk into jungle, not 1:20:06.680 --> 1:20:09.240 to have some dude will hold my hand in it 1:20:10.600 --> 1:20:12.920 or need security to walk in the shit that I 1:20:12.960 --> 1:20:16.439 walked in when I was nutted. No, it should be 1:20:16.439 --> 1:20:19.719 the opposite. I'm more powerful now with money. Why can't 1:20:19.760 --> 1:20:23.040 I walk in it. I'm gonna walk in it with nothing. 1:20:24.720 --> 1:20:26.840 If I gotta wear the same clothes, they gotta wear 1:20:26.880 --> 1:20:30.320 it too. I'm a blending it, but I'm gonna be walking. 1:20:31.680 --> 1:20:35.120 I'm not paying nobody to check in and do this 1:20:35.280 --> 1:20:35.880 and do that. 1:20:35.880 --> 1:20:38.880 That's not my culture. That's not how I grew up. 1:20:40.240 --> 1:20:46.840 I don't go by rules. I go buy morals and standard. 1:20:51.840 --> 1:20:56.080 Now I'm gonna ask you a question. It's gonna sound cliche, 1:20:56.520 --> 1:20:58.280 but did you ever think that hip hop would go 1:20:58.360 --> 1:20:58.680 this far? 1:21:00.280 --> 1:21:00.439 No? 1:21:02.520 --> 1:21:06.200 No, I now say, And now that it's far, it's dangerous. 1:21:07.479 --> 1:21:10.200 Now that it's far, and with making the money that 1:21:10.240 --> 1:21:17.000 we always wanted to make you die you, how is 1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:18.679 it possible for you to win? 1:21:18.800 --> 1:21:22.240 Now? They made it impossible for you to win? Hold on? 1:21:22.479 --> 1:21:25.280 You mean, first I get the deal. 1:21:26.320 --> 1:21:30.080 Then when I get the deal, the first thing I'm 1:21:30.080 --> 1:21:33.000 gonna do in this climate is I'm gonna pay no 1:21:33.120 --> 1:21:38.960 allitment twenty thirty grand criminal attorney. So when I go 1:21:39.120 --> 1:21:43.080 to I get right out right, I get right out. 1:21:43.439 --> 1:21:47.240 You know that queen shit, get right out. That's how 1:21:47.280 --> 1:21:49.639 you know you got money, right, Because if it's sitting 1:21:49.680 --> 1:21:50.720 in the shoe box. 1:21:50.600 --> 1:21:51.680 The lawyer can't get that. 1:21:52.479 --> 1:21:55.439 When I got money, the one hundred thousand dollars check, 1:21:55.560 --> 1:21:58.679 thirty of that is going towards the criminal lawyer, because 1:21:58.720 --> 1:22:01.200 I know hanging with criminals. 1:22:01.640 --> 1:22:05.040 I'm not hanging with nothing else. I'm hanging with criminals. 1:22:05.080 --> 1:22:07.599 So criminals gonna do with now when I give him that, 1:22:08.120 --> 1:22:11.200 when I hit him off, I'm gonna be blamed for 1:22:11.280 --> 1:22:14.840 them guns. I'm gonna be blamed for them drugs. I'm 1:22:14.840 --> 1:22:17.680 gonna be blamed for that. Why because I gave it 1:22:17.680 --> 1:22:19.960 to him. They can't do what I do, but they 1:22:19.960 --> 1:22:23.439 gotta make a living. But I supply them. Now I'm 1:22:23.439 --> 1:22:26.320 in trouble. Now, if it's more than three or four 1:22:26.360 --> 1:22:28.000 of them they got. 1:22:27.880 --> 1:22:30.880 I'm in the soup. I'm in the rico. 1:22:32.040 --> 1:22:34.920 Because now I didn't take my mom and daddy and 1:22:34.960 --> 1:22:37.120 me and sell drugs. No, I took three or four 1:22:37.160 --> 1:22:39.920 of my friends and I stayed out of it. 1:22:40.040 --> 1:22:42.400 But I'm the I'm the I'm the financier. 1:22:43.200 --> 1:22:46.639 Come on, bro, now I'm going to jail again now 1:22:46.840 --> 1:22:51.280 to keep that ship, I gotta kill you, yep, I gotta, 1:22:51.360 --> 1:22:55.080 I gotta, I gotta. I gotta kill you. And to 1:22:55.160 --> 1:22:58.920 protect him, I gotta kill you too, because he ain't 1:22:59.000 --> 1:23:03.639 killing nothing. He too busy rapping, be too busy getting 1:23:03.640 --> 1:23:09.400 the bag. He is heavy. Happy birthday. 1:23:09.600 --> 1:23:21.800 Yest's heavy because so let me Uh. The rap game 1:23:21.800 --> 1:23:25.559 has been beautiful to me, very right, but it's also 1:23:25.760 --> 1:23:30.760 been harsh, right because it's like life, right, yes, very 1:23:30.840 --> 1:23:34.800 much like life. And I remember me entering rap game 1:23:35.800 --> 1:23:37.360 and I do this to this day. Like a lot 1:23:37.400 --> 1:23:40.200 of people say, I don't work for free, right, but 1:23:40.320 --> 1:23:41.280 if it's something I. 1:23:41.240 --> 1:23:43.639 Love, I'll do it. Right. 1:23:45.600 --> 1:23:48.360 When was the moment that you was like, damn, because 1:23:48.600 --> 1:23:52.599 I heard you say earlier you said, this is business. Yeah, 1:23:52.800 --> 1:23:55.360 because we all love the rap. If you're a rapper, 1:23:55.439 --> 1:23:58.080 you just love the rap, right, it's just in you. 1:23:58.080 --> 1:24:00.760 You love to be artistic, right, right. But then there's 1:24:00.800 --> 1:24:03.080 a point where you're like, yo, this is a business. 1:24:03.120 --> 1:24:06.960 Like for me, I'm gonna tell you the truth. I 1:24:07.000 --> 1:24:09.720 was running around doing features and just doing it and 1:24:09.760 --> 1:24:13.160 Pun was like, do you know that people pay for this? 1:24:14.520 --> 1:24:16.719 I didn't know that you get paid for a feature 1:24:17.160 --> 1:24:19.280 and Pun told me that. So that was kind of 1:24:19.320 --> 1:24:22.800 like my moment where business struck me and I was like, 1:24:22.800 --> 1:24:25.680 you know what, Holy shit, I'm not here to make 1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:28.320 friends with these people. I'm here to do business. So 1:24:28.360 --> 1:24:30.600 that was my moment. When was your moment when you 1:24:30.720 --> 1:24:34.040 was like, yo, this like this is this is this 1:24:34.080 --> 1:24:37.280 is my art, this is my job, this is my career, 1:24:37.600 --> 1:24:39.680 like Whoenmen's that moment where you had because you know, 1:24:39.720 --> 1:24:43.320 we were all young. And then so women's the moment where. 1:24:43.640 --> 1:24:47.240 When I sat in the meeting and it wasn't talking 1:24:47.280 --> 1:24:52.280 about me in my future, oh elaborate, when they were 1:24:52.320 --> 1:24:57.160 talking about what my producers producing and not what I'm 1:24:57.200 --> 1:25:01.880 producing and not where I'm going. Oh wow, so it's 1:25:01.920 --> 1:25:06.080 a record label. Yeah, okay, we label electric Electric. 1:25:06.960 --> 1:25:07.160 Wrong. 1:25:07.360 --> 1:25:09.599 Yeah, I'm sitting there with having a meeting with her, 1:25:09.680 --> 1:25:14.800 but we're not talking about me, We're talking about him. 1:25:14.920 --> 1:25:15.240 Okay. 1:25:15.360 --> 1:25:17.600 So just to make sense of it, You're you're in 1:25:17.600 --> 1:25:19.360 a meeting about Pete Rock and steals food, but I'm 1:25:19.360 --> 1:25:19.720 taking it. 1:25:20.280 --> 1:25:23.679 About mecking a soul brother. Yeah, okay, the group. 1:25:24.080 --> 1:25:28.040 Yeah, because now we're getting into we're not with Bob 1:25:28.120 --> 1:25:29.120 Cras now, no more. 1:25:29.160 --> 1:25:32.400 We with Sylvia wrong wrong, a black woman, yeah, strong 1:25:32.439 --> 1:25:33.080 black woman. 1:25:32.960 --> 1:25:35.639 Right right? 1:25:36.760 --> 1:25:38.880 And she needed all that strength and then get it. 1:25:40.120 --> 1:25:40.840 I needed it. 1:25:41.080 --> 1:25:41.320 Wow. 1:25:42.360 --> 1:25:46.840 Listen, I got a mom, I got I got a grandma. 1:25:47.600 --> 1:25:51.240 I told you about it. I got great aunts, all right, 1:25:52.320 --> 1:25:54.519 I got cousins that are like aunts. 1:25:54.720 --> 1:25:56.280 And you say you're looking at Sylvia. 1:25:55.960 --> 1:25:59.400 You're like looking at her like, okay, if this white 1:25:59.479 --> 1:26:03.080 man is gonna give me all this money, imagine. 1:26:02.640 --> 1:26:03.600 What she gonna give me. 1:26:05.720 --> 1:26:11.920 Good point. Now we're human. Now you can be wrong. 1:26:12.960 --> 1:26:17.040 You could be blocking up the wrong tree. You understand, yes, 1:26:17.080 --> 1:26:17.320 I do. 1:26:18.400 --> 1:26:20.200 So you were wrong. You said it was wrong. 1:26:21.920 --> 1:26:22.759 I was wrong. 1:26:24.160 --> 1:26:30.160 I was totally out of the loop and I was expendable. 1:26:29.400 --> 1:26:30.160 Because you gotta work. 1:26:30.280 --> 1:26:30.559 Hold on. 1:26:30.600 --> 1:26:35.200 Let me just say something because right now we're going 1:26:35.240 --> 1:26:39.800 to the president. Would think and yes, so you're saying 1:26:39.800 --> 1:26:40.879 your voting for con. 1:26:40.840 --> 1:26:43.000 Saying I should have been shot, and let me get 1:26:43.000 --> 1:26:48.720 a set. My god, I don't know what's going on. 1:26:50.200 --> 1:26:52.519 Your here's your talking. 1:26:52.760 --> 1:26:53.400 You will talk. 1:26:53.439 --> 1:26:54.320 I ain't come here. 1:26:55.080 --> 1:27:01.240 I'm leaving, okay, I got no thing against them because 1:27:01.960 --> 1:27:02.960 I'm self made. 1:27:03.560 --> 1:27:05.599 You didn't give it to me like he was supposed to. 1:27:06.040 --> 1:27:08.439 But you're saying, when Sylvia Room, you got this, they 1:27:08.479 --> 1:27:09.200 get no money. 1:27:09.720 --> 1:27:14.479 I got let loose. I was expendable because I felt 1:27:15.040 --> 1:27:17.160 I could be wrong. Like I said, I came in 1:27:17.240 --> 1:27:20.120 all wrong. I came in with the wrong attitude because 1:27:20.120 --> 1:27:23.000 I was a young nigga expecting this. And then when 1:27:23.040 --> 1:27:26.040 I came in here and expect that, why am I here? 1:27:27.880 --> 1:27:32.679 So listen, as a young man, I acted that way. 1:27:33.920 --> 1:27:34.880 Do I blame him? 1:27:34.920 --> 1:27:34.960 No? 1:27:35.080 --> 1:27:38.439 Because you're only twenty five for a little bit, right, Okay, 1:27:38.600 --> 1:27:42.439 now I'm this way. I'm gonna handle it different because 1:27:42.920 --> 1:27:47.519 I'm wiser, I'm older. But back then, I wasn't trying 1:27:47.520 --> 1:27:51.840 to hear that, Like, what do you mean I'm expendable? 1:27:52.360 --> 1:27:52.960 How does this? 1:27:53.479 --> 1:27:56.519 So you're taking his groups and you're saying that's more 1:27:56.560 --> 1:27:57.599 important than his group? 1:27:58.760 --> 1:28:01.200 So with my shit. See, we don't know that they 1:28:01.240 --> 1:28:02.040 literally told you that. 1:28:02.240 --> 1:28:04.439 Listen, we're only here to talk to inside of shit, 1:28:04.640 --> 1:28:05.679 not the outside of shit. 1:28:06.120 --> 1:28:08.120 But did they tell you that that you were expendable 1:28:08.200 --> 1:28:08.439 like that? 1:28:08.520 --> 1:28:08.720 Oh? 1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:11.720 They showed me in this game. They don't tell you. 1:28:11.800 --> 1:28:17.080 They show you you expendable, you don't mean nothing because 1:28:17.320 --> 1:28:19.040 they feel if I gave him. 1:28:19.400 --> 1:28:21.320 Listen, you ain't give me no money. 1:28:21.439 --> 1:28:24.759 If you gave him some money, then you expect him 1:28:25.120 --> 1:28:27.760 to do what you want him to do. But you 1:28:27.760 --> 1:28:30.240 didn't give me no money, and you didn't ask him 1:28:30.439 --> 1:28:32.960 when you gave him that money. Do I have anything 1:28:32.960 --> 1:28:36.040 to do with the success of what he's doing? So 1:28:36.080 --> 1:28:41.560 where's my money? That's business. That's not thinking like a 1:28:43.840 --> 1:28:48.120 person that money hungry. Why am I here in this 1:28:48.240 --> 1:28:51.360 building when I could be on the corner smoking reefer 1:28:51.520 --> 1:28:55.800 in shooting dice. Why am I here when I could 1:28:55.840 --> 1:28:59.280 be in front of my business smoking reefer and shooting 1:28:59.320 --> 1:29:03.680 dice over there too. Come on, give me something that 1:29:03.760 --> 1:29:05.719 I don't have. That's business. 1:29:06.320 --> 1:29:08.920 So let me ask you, right because I had Leo 1:29:09.040 --> 1:29:11.599 Cohn's here and I had to ask Leo Cohns straight up. 1:29:11.880 --> 1:29:13.840 I was like, do you think you are the reason 1:29:13.840 --> 1:29:17.479 why Rockefeller broke up? Do you think the reason you 1:29:17.560 --> 1:29:20.200 and Pete is going through whatever y'are going through is 1:29:20.560 --> 1:29:23.040 because of the record label and not be it's not 1:29:23.080 --> 1:29:23.599 a director. 1:29:23.800 --> 1:29:26.920 It's partly the blame because if you're going to give 1:29:27.000 --> 1:29:30.080 somebody some money on the side to stay home, to 1:29:30.200 --> 1:29:33.640 do my money is to go on the roll. If 1:29:33.800 --> 1:29:37.080 he's not going to duck, yeah, then it's a duck. 1:29:37.800 --> 1:29:41.240 Come on, Why we gotta go there? I just want 1:29:41.280 --> 1:29:43.920 some money and get out of this building, right right. 1:29:44.600 --> 1:29:47.599 Let me fulfill six whatever you got on the table, 1:29:47.680 --> 1:29:51.519 and I'm out because I asked Bob kras Now for 1:29:51.600 --> 1:29:54.280 this and he gave it till he was select records. 1:29:54.280 --> 1:30:00.559 Who is Bob Bob kras Now? And what's the Spanish 1:30:00.640 --> 1:30:02.799 dude's name? Ruben? 1:30:04.240 --> 1:30:08.479 Not Rick Rubin. Obviously you're not talking about jelly Bean. 1:30:09.320 --> 1:30:12.960 There's another Spanish dude, and I feel embarrassed that I 1:30:12.960 --> 1:30:16.400 forgot his name. I almost think he took me to 1:30:16.560 --> 1:30:22.360 dinner with Teddy Pendergrass. Yeah, man, he took me to 1:30:22.439 --> 1:30:24.960 dinner with Teddy Pendergrass. And I can't remember his name 1:30:25.000 --> 1:30:32.599 because I'm drinking on drinking. Who is after Bob kras 1:30:32.680 --> 1:30:33.559 Now at Electra? 1:30:34.600 --> 1:30:40.680 Yeah, but no, it was a Spanisher. He learned English, 1:30:42.080 --> 1:30:46.920 some guy he blamed learning English, right, and gave ship 1:30:47.080 --> 1:30:47.519 some money? 1:30:47.520 --> 1:30:51.439 Come on, man, so damn gave me a lot of money, man, damn. 1:30:52.080 --> 1:30:57.759 And and Daunte Ross got some checks. Daunte Ross cuts 1:30:57.760 --> 1:31:01.400 some checks and I love Dante. We needn't shell Be 1:31:01.600 --> 1:31:08.200 need Shelby, need big publicists. That ship is so strong 1:31:08.400 --> 1:31:12.519 I can smell it here. Ship yees, come on, I'll 1:31:12.520 --> 1:31:13.920 be on my porch with the Hennessy. 1:31:14.120 --> 1:31:15.679 But this is how I know you're a Caribbean nigga, 1:31:15.680 --> 1:31:16.920 because you're drinking Hennessy Wright. 1:31:16.960 --> 1:31:22.639 That's that's the only Caribbean on vacation every day. I'm alive. 1:31:27.840 --> 1:31:32.880 That was the correct Oh my god. 1:31:34.880 --> 1:31:41.679 Yeah, So God comes down right right and God said, see, 1:31:42.680 --> 1:31:45.960 I want you to make one record, and you got 1:31:45.960 --> 1:31:49.840 one producer to pick to save humanity, any type of 1:31:49.920 --> 1:31:52.599 record you're gonna make, and you get one feature. 1:31:53.640 --> 1:31:57.519 God asked you that, and what producer would you pick? 1:31:57.600 --> 1:31:58.880 And what artists would you pick? 1:32:00.360 --> 1:32:01.120 All time? 1:32:01.400 --> 1:32:05.280 They could be dead alive anything producing an artists. 1:32:07.080 --> 1:32:12.880 Me and Nas is going to Primo House, you and Nas. 1:32:13.760 --> 1:32:16.840 Me and Nas are going to Primo the Premier House. Yeah, 1:32:16.840 --> 1:32:20.200 we're going to Premiers. Holy shit, we're going to write 1:32:20.200 --> 1:32:26.599 over there and make some of that walk that big ball. 1:32:28.600 --> 1:32:34.880 I can see like that's like run DMC. That's like 1:32:35.680 --> 1:32:38.400 changing your life. See, I want to do things that 1:32:38.600 --> 1:32:42.240 change your life. You know what I'm saying, old, young, 1:32:42.479 --> 1:32:48.360 middle to change your life. Make a move because we're 1:32:48.400 --> 1:32:51.719 only here on earth for a little while, so why 1:32:51.760 --> 1:32:55.599 not make the move because we're gonna be up there shining. 1:32:56.160 --> 1:32:57.000 Make the move. 1:32:57.320 --> 1:33:00.559 I can hear this record, make the move here, last 1:33:00.600 --> 1:33:02.760 record I would have loved. You know. 1:33:03.600 --> 1:33:05.519 That's the only thing I'm mad at Pete Rock about 1:33:05.600 --> 1:33:07.519 is that we didn't make a record with Nas. 1:33:07.560 --> 1:33:08.840 And he was willing to do that. 1:33:09.240 --> 1:33:11.160 Nas was willing to He was willing to do that 1:33:11.680 --> 1:33:15.040 on one condition that you get back together. 1:33:17.280 --> 1:33:21.320 Nah, don't say this, No, no, say what I told 1:33:21.360 --> 1:33:21.880 you first. 1:33:23.080 --> 1:33:25.400 Please look look there's the book. 1:33:27.479 --> 1:33:30.519 That business model right here, the business model for you, 1:33:31.320 --> 1:33:36.479 the documentary Mass Appeal produces it. All that sim we'll 1:33:36.520 --> 1:33:38.839 get back together and do a record on Mass Appeal. 1:33:39.240 --> 1:33:42.320 Oh that's so dope. That's so dope. I like business 1:33:42.400 --> 1:33:46.559 like that. That's so dope. Doesn't even take. 1:33:46.400 --> 1:33:50.280 Me out of mind, my ship, because you know what's 1:33:50.280 --> 1:33:53.040 so dope about this is we had Nas on here, 1:33:53.120 --> 1:33:56.240 right And I asked Nas a question, have anybody ever 1:33:56.320 --> 1:33:57.040 fronted on you? 1:33:57.120 --> 1:33:59.360 And now I said, yes, Prince fronted on me. 1:33:59.400 --> 1:34:02.000 Because Prince said he wouldn't do a record with me 1:34:02.040 --> 1:34:06.519 because he didn't own He didn't own his own mask. 1:34:10.000 --> 1:34:16.800 This is, by the way, I have no facts on 1:34:16.840 --> 1:34:19.920 this other than what I said the importance of these records. 1:34:20.000 --> 1:34:22.040 So you know, let me tell you something that is 1:34:22.080 --> 1:34:25.400 so dope up now to go in his inner childhood 1:34:25.439 --> 1:34:28.240 and say, I'll do the record with y'all like this, but. 1:34:28.680 --> 1:34:31.360 You're gonna get back again, gotta get back together. 1:34:31.720 --> 1:34:32.479 That's dope, bro. 1:34:32.720 --> 1:34:33.840 And I'm gonna be a part of that. 1:34:34.160 --> 1:34:36.880 Yes, you know he really want to do and I 1:34:36.960 --> 1:34:39.840 respect that what I really want to do, yes, Like 1:34:39.920 --> 1:34:42.639 I know that's your business, yes, but I know what 1:34:42.680 --> 1:34:45.719 I really want to do, right, So I respected that 1:34:46.120 --> 1:34:48.200 and that's I do too, and me I do too 1:34:48.320 --> 1:34:51.519 that that was bigger than just doing the record showing 1:34:51.560 --> 1:34:54.120 me something, Yeah, because I mean because I just literally 1:34:54.240 --> 1:34:56.960 love you. I love it like this though, you know 1:34:57.000 --> 1:34:58.559 what I mean. Don't give me the don't give me 1:34:58.600 --> 1:35:00.920 the burger without the bun, just give me the pun. 1:35:01.600 --> 1:35:04.360 He low call died. He ain't on a low call die. 1:35:05.040 --> 1:35:07.320 Let me just tell you something just in case you 1:35:07.360 --> 1:35:11.080 don't know. And I try to tell it to Pete. 1:35:11.720 --> 1:35:16.080 And I'm gonna tell it to you. Your brother's really 1:35:16.160 --> 1:35:22.920 changed probably everybody in this room life. And sometimes you 1:35:22.960 --> 1:35:26.760 know when a thing is outdone, I know how it is. 1:35:26.760 --> 1:35:30.000 You don't want to revisit certain certain things sometimes. But 1:35:30.160 --> 1:35:34.679 to people in this room, fans, people that support your movement, 1:35:34.920 --> 1:35:38.000 that's something that we really really, really really really want. 1:35:38.520 --> 1:35:41.960 And I, like I said, I've been searching you so much, 1:35:42.000 --> 1:35:46.080 and I can see your militant your militant mind statements 1:35:46.120 --> 1:35:48.000 like Yo, we don't even gotta be in Like whatever, 1:35:48.240 --> 1:35:50.040 you can send me the beat, let's get this guest, 1:35:50.120 --> 1:35:53.200 let's give it to the fans. Yeah, what makes you comfortable? 1:35:53.600 --> 1:35:56.759 And I like that whatever you love, I can adapt 1:35:56.800 --> 1:35:58.720 to see. It's all about adaptation. 1:35:59.040 --> 1:35:59.360 Uh huh. 1:35:59.760 --> 1:36:03.479 If if I can't adapt and I can't see, I'm 1:36:03.520 --> 1:36:09.080 a firm believer in being uncomfortable to get comfortable. I'm 1:36:09.120 --> 1:36:12.120 a firm believer in that because if you're not ready 1:36:12.160 --> 1:36:17.000 to work under hostile conditions, then you can't work period. 1:36:18.240 --> 1:36:21.880 So you just delay in the process of failure. Because 1:36:21.920 --> 1:36:27.240 you can't work under hostile conditions. You can't work when 1:36:27.280 --> 1:36:31.280 it ain't in your favor, when when the when the 1:36:31.320 --> 1:36:36.200 percentages are tilted, you ain't showing. Oh, I could work 1:36:36.240 --> 1:36:39.960 around that, because little small things make big things. 1:36:40.960 --> 1:36:43.360 Little small things add up to big things. 1:36:43.760 --> 1:36:46.040 But if you're not willing to only do big and 1:36:46.120 --> 1:36:50.200 not do small, then you ain't gonna have nothing. I 1:36:50.280 --> 1:36:54.160 know that in business because it's a chemistry set. In business, 1:36:54.800 --> 1:36:58.320 it's a chemistry set. But it's also based on who 1:36:58.360 --> 1:37:02.559 you are and what you want are you Are you 1:37:02.680 --> 1:37:07.439 a functioning, high quality function in person or are you 1:37:07.520 --> 1:37:08.400 low functioning? 1:37:08.600 --> 1:37:10.320 It depends on what you want to do. 1:37:11.600 --> 1:37:17.080 So the friendship stopped? What was the point where or 1:37:17.200 --> 1:37:19.760 did it? Did the friend What was the point where 1:37:20.160 --> 1:37:21.479 you and peace friendship stopped? 1:37:21.479 --> 1:37:24.040 Because like I feel like I feel like. 1:37:26.720 --> 1:37:33.680 I feel like our friendship is it's a friendship that's 1:37:33.720 --> 1:37:35.200 fractured but keeps going. 1:37:36.320 --> 1:37:38.720 It's it's something that like. 1:37:40.280 --> 1:37:43.840 I can get rid of any other friend, but you 1:37:43.840 --> 1:37:46.040 you know what I'm saying, Like like I could get 1:37:46.160 --> 1:37:51.719 rid of any other friend, but you you my friend. 1:37:52.840 --> 1:37:53.360 You know what I mean? 1:37:53.479 --> 1:38:00.120 Like like that, but I could get rid of anybody, 1:38:00.439 --> 1:38:05.599 but you, And I know I know for sure one 1:38:05.640 --> 1:38:08.040 thing for certain, two things you. 1:38:07.920 --> 1:38:11.559 Can't get rid of me. I understand you so much. 1:38:12.320 --> 1:38:18.200 You listen, I understand we got We always will have 1:38:18.280 --> 1:38:22.160 a common knowlogy, even though we think different. We're gonna 1:38:22.160 --> 1:38:26.840 have a common knowlogy because in life's plight, you are 1:38:26.920 --> 1:38:27.479 my brother. 1:38:27.920 --> 1:38:28.800 I could see all day. 1:38:28.840 --> 1:38:31.519 You ain't my brother, You ain't my friend. You ain't 1:38:31.520 --> 1:38:34.479 nothing to me. I got my own money. You ain't 1:38:34.479 --> 1:38:37.759 buy my house, you ain't buy my cars? What bank account? 1:38:37.960 --> 1:38:41.160 I'm a hunt. I'm well over with the what you 1:38:41.240 --> 1:38:46.600 gave me. But that's not what the people feel. Fuck you, 1:38:47.120 --> 1:38:51.960 that's not what the people feel. The people feel. You 1:38:52.000 --> 1:38:55.800 guys are brothers. You how much money do you got 1:38:55.880 --> 1:38:59.720 because you came in here? Nutty? So what you mean 1:39:00.160 --> 1:39:02.600 you bigger with the money or without the money? You 1:39:02.960 --> 1:39:05.920 make right decisions with money or without money? No, I 1:39:05.960 --> 1:39:10.479 make the right decision period because I'm a man, not 1:39:10.560 --> 1:39:13.720 because I got money. Because I'm a man and I 1:39:13.760 --> 1:39:16.840 done set it up to be a man. Look, many 1:39:16.840 --> 1:39:20.240 motherfuckers ain't no man. I mean they ain't no man. 1:39:20.360 --> 1:39:21.559 There's a lot of not man. 1:39:21.680 --> 1:39:25.000 Yeah, so I'm paying the penalty for being a man, 1:39:26.520 --> 1:39:27.519 a man's man. 1:39:31.520 --> 1:39:32.400 How much that cost? 1:39:32.479 --> 1:39:34.519 You got to go through something to make the money 1:39:34.520 --> 1:39:36.679 stay right? 1:39:37.080 --> 1:39:37.280 Yeah? 1:39:37.800 --> 1:39:40.640 Yeah, Yo, that's it is. 1:39:40.720 --> 1:39:45.639 So it's like because we twins, and in life, they're 1:39:45.680 --> 1:39:49.639 not gonna get what a person thinks. There's always gonna 1:39:49.640 --> 1:39:52.800 be people that got more money than me, as much 1:39:52.880 --> 1:39:56.559 money than me, and less money than me. As long 1:39:56.600 --> 1:40:01.000 as I'm breathing, I'm not keeping the that I'm keeping 1:40:01.040 --> 1:40:05.840 account of my moves. Do you understand, because when the 1:40:05.880 --> 1:40:10.040 pandemic was here, I was living in my shoe box. 1:40:11.120 --> 1:40:15.120 Hip hop wasn't earning nothing, and I was just having 1:40:15.200 --> 1:40:18.439 things that I already paid for that wasn't struggling. My 1:40:18.520 --> 1:40:22.000 house is done, my shit is done. All I gotta 1:40:22.040 --> 1:40:27.240 do is maintain. I'm past the stage of struggling. It's 1:40:27.280 --> 1:40:30.559 about your moves now. If you make the wrong move, 1:40:30.600 --> 1:40:35.640 you're gonna struggle, You're gonna be hurt. But if you 1:40:35.720 --> 1:40:38.519 got the right foundation and you got the wheel, you 1:40:38.720 --> 1:40:40.680 know what it is. You know what it is to 1:40:40.840 --> 1:40:44.559 move that wheel and how what the results are going 1:40:44.640 --> 1:40:49.040 to be. Because the love gotta be there. The love 1:40:49.080 --> 1:40:51.720 gotta be there. Man, You gotta love what you do. 1:40:52.680 --> 1:40:55.080 You can't fake what you do. You can't be fake 1:40:56.280 --> 1:40:58.240 because at some point you're gonna explode. 1:40:58.560 --> 1:41:02.800 I don't want to do this now more. I'm sick 1:41:02.840 --> 1:41:06.560 of Yeah, yeah, you're you're losing it. You're out of 1:41:06.600 --> 1:41:07.160 your character. 1:41:08.479 --> 1:41:12.960 So you got the whole album dropping with Peter Guns. 1:41:13.240 --> 1:41:17.519 Yeah, my man, The Odd Couple, ain't it odd? 1:41:18.320 --> 1:41:20.800 I always wanted, by the way, I'm jealous of you 1:41:20.960 --> 1:41:23.479 because I always wanted to use that. That ain't all 1:41:23.600 --> 1:41:25.839 because I know, you know, I've seen The Odd Couple, 1:41:26.240 --> 1:41:29.439 the actual TV show. I've seen it, So I always 1:41:29.439 --> 1:41:32.000 wanted to use that for a title, and y'all beat 1:41:32.000 --> 1:41:34.799 me to it. So you're like, skin, it's a volume. 1:41:35.080 --> 1:41:38.719 You know, I'm gonna get on the hour, right, y'all. 1:41:39.479 --> 1:41:41.639 I'm gonna save him birth. But how did this come about? 1:41:43.479 --> 1:41:46.880 Just hanging out with him and and and vibing off him? 1:41:46.920 --> 1:41:50.719 Because when you see the TV you get another version 1:41:50.800 --> 1:41:55.759 of him. That's just it's just, sweetheart. He's my brother. 1:41:56.240 --> 1:41:59.080 He's my brother, you know what I'm saying. And for me, 1:41:59.240 --> 1:42:01.519 I always tease him. I say, yeah, damn man, another 1:42:01.600 --> 1:42:03.160 Peter huh. 1:42:03.120 --> 1:42:08.000 You the motherfuckers? Don't you just pop up? You know 1:42:08.040 --> 1:42:14.840 what I mean? Dude. But I'm gonna try it out because. 1:42:16.439 --> 1:42:18.200 Because I'm a gambler, just. 1:42:19.840 --> 1:42:20.639 Make sure it works. 1:42:21.240 --> 1:42:25.760 You know, you can't strike out twice, right, right, So yeah, 1:42:26.560 --> 1:42:29.920 we had this this project called the Odd Couple. Man, 1:42:30.200 --> 1:42:33.360 it's like an EP and we got all different songs 1:42:33.400 --> 1:42:37.680 of just complimenting each other. He's like more like a 1:42:38.040 --> 1:42:42.599 Oscar and I more like a Felix and compliment each other. Man. Okay, 1:42:43.000 --> 1:42:45.479 we got an album it's just me and him. And 1:42:45.520 --> 1:42:50.479 we got Primo. Oh no, pardon me. We got large 1:42:50.479 --> 1:42:57.439 Professor Professor. We got large Professor on two joints, and 1:42:57.479 --> 1:43:02.320 then we got Terminology Terminologies. We got Terminology and we 1:43:02.400 --> 1:43:05.400 got static Selector Selector. 1:43:04.720 --> 1:43:06.240 Which is it the same person? 1:43:06.439 --> 1:43:13.960 Terminogy, Instatus, Terminology and with their crew. What I want 1:43:14.000 --> 1:43:16.000 to thank them for is that I made a record 1:43:16.000 --> 1:43:19.840 with Paul Wall and that was a dope joint. Yes, 1:43:19.960 --> 1:43:23.240 I mean that was a dope joint. So I really 1:43:23.280 --> 1:43:25.560 love that they are on their grind. What did you 1:43:25.560 --> 1:43:28.559 get your ship? Professionally wrote, I mean, yeah, it's Borus. 1:43:28.600 --> 1:43:29.160 He's from Peru. 1:43:29.680 --> 1:43:34.720 Wow, it's yeah, he wrestles alligators. 1:43:38.840 --> 1:43:41.840 I like to say that, yeah, but she won. 1:43:42.479 --> 1:43:47.880 I want to I want to personally thank you. 1:43:47.880 --> 1:43:48.200 You heard. 1:43:49.200 --> 1:43:53.479 I want to personally thank you because what you did 1:43:53.640 --> 1:43:57.879 to hip hop, we all owe you, all of us 1:43:59.760 --> 1:44:03.120 oh all of us. When I say you changed the game, 1:44:03.920 --> 1:44:07.280 I'm dead serious. Like, you changed the way people rhyme, 1:44:07.400 --> 1:44:09.599 you change the way people walk, you change. 1:44:09.360 --> 1:44:12.080 The way people made it classic too, and you made 1:44:12.080 --> 1:44:13.719 it classy and you made it classic. 1:44:15.000 --> 1:44:18.160 And I wanted to thank you to your face, besides 1:44:18.200 --> 1:44:20.520 the flowers, besides everything, because. 1:44:21.800 --> 1:44:24.160 You are truly a legend. You're truly an icon. 1:44:24.680 --> 1:44:29.600 And I loved when I was just you know, you know, 1:44:29.720 --> 1:44:33.479 I'm searching you, and I'm like, damn, from that point 1:44:33.520 --> 1:44:38.080 of the game, the game has changed and it changed 1:44:38.120 --> 1:44:40.680 for the better, and that's because of you. 1:44:41.280 --> 1:44:43.200 And I wanted to thank you to your face. 1:44:43.360 --> 1:44:47.600 Because that's real, that's real, that's real. 1:44:47.560 --> 1:44:48.440 Because. 1:44:50.520 --> 1:44:54.240 And we wanted to give your flowers from the beginning 1:44:54.240 --> 1:45:00.559 of us starting the show right absolutely, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, 1:45:00.720 --> 1:45:02.880 no no, we've been talking you on the loft. 1:45:03.240 --> 1:45:05.160 Let me get my lighter back. I'll tell you, I'm 1:45:05.160 --> 1:45:06.479 always taking it about you. 1:45:09.240 --> 1:45:11.439 Whenever you know that light, that light of that that's 1:45:11.439 --> 1:45:14.360 when you know, take your lighter for you. 1:45:14.360 --> 1:45:15.680 You don't smoke, you don't know that. 1:45:17.800 --> 1:45:18.439 I heard. 1:45:19.880 --> 1:45:22.320 You talk about one time you had a fight and 1:45:22.400 --> 1:45:24.760 Heavy D pulled up on you and told you to 1:45:24.760 --> 1:45:27.719 get in the car, and you and and you got 1:45:27.760 --> 1:45:30.360 you got mad or haven't got mad because you didn't 1:45:30.360 --> 1:45:31.240 get in the car at first. 1:45:31.280 --> 1:45:34.320 You still wanted to get it in. That was some fight, 1:45:35.920 --> 1:45:37.439 some some fight. Wow. 1:45:37.600 --> 1:45:41.200 That was over a girl and she was really my friend. 1:45:41.520 --> 1:45:46.360 You ain't smash no, okay because she was really my friend. 1:45:46.600 --> 1:45:46.800 Wow. 1:45:46.880 --> 1:45:49.080 See I had a lot of female friends like I 1:45:49.120 --> 1:45:52.400 had a lot of male friends, and we had that 1:45:52.479 --> 1:45:56.360 same mutual respect for each other. Like I have some friends. 1:45:56.680 --> 1:46:00.400 You have some friends that you can smash. Then you 1:46:00.400 --> 1:46:04.880 have some friends that y'all just make fried hot dogs, y'all. 1:46:04.920 --> 1:46:09.160 Just y'all just flip uh you say, yeah, never heard 1:46:09.160 --> 1:46:09.360 of that. 1:46:09.400 --> 1:46:16.160 Okay, hot dogs, and. 1:46:13.880 --> 1:46:16.800 Yeah you fry the bun. You you toast the bun. 1:46:17.600 --> 1:46:21.280 Yeah, sometimes you slice the hot in the middle, slice 1:46:21.320 --> 1:46:22.360 it down the middle when you. 1:46:23.040 --> 1:46:24.240 This conversation. 1:46:33.400 --> 1:46:39.200 Anyway anyway, Yeah, so yeah, you know, you just have 1:46:39.240 --> 1:46:42.320 some friends that you bond with, you do things with 1:46:42.800 --> 1:46:47.680 other than when you're with your male friends. So our 1:46:47.920 --> 1:46:51.080 younger cousins were together, they was they was kicking it, 1:46:51.520 --> 1:46:55.479 and you told your home his friends is the female 1:46:55.479 --> 1:46:59.920 friend that I had that was going with Troy that's wow, 1:47:00.120 --> 1:47:03.960 that's his girl. But it was my friend not knowing. 1:47:04.040 --> 1:47:07.280 I didn't know Troy back then, but our little cousins 1:47:07.320 --> 1:47:09.200 were together, so we were chaperoning. 1:47:09.439 --> 1:47:11.719 So you're basically saying that you and Troy had beef. 1:47:12.960 --> 1:47:16.440 I didn't know Troy eventually. 1:47:16.560 --> 1:47:21.880 Long story short, yes, long story short, Yes he's my brother, 1:47:23.160 --> 1:47:26.599 but you have beef at first, absolutely over this girl, 1:47:27.520 --> 1:47:31.080 over this girl. But it was really my little cousin 1:47:31.360 --> 1:47:35.320 going with her little cousin and we were chaperoning, you 1:47:35.320 --> 1:47:35.800 know what I mean. 1:47:36.040 --> 1:47:37.160 That's how we were together. 1:47:37.680 --> 1:47:39.599 I couldn't leave him in Mount Vernon to go there 1:47:39.680 --> 1:47:42.120 by itself, so I went with him, you know what 1:47:42.160 --> 1:47:45.400 I'm saying. So that's how we were doing it. And 1:47:45.800 --> 1:47:50.040 it wasn't appreciated at first. He pulled up half No, no, no, 1:47:50.040 --> 1:47:53.439 it wasn't heavy. It was just him and his goons, right, okay. 1:47:53.760 --> 1:47:57.720 And then she talked to him and they worked it out. 1:47:58.200 --> 1:48:01.320 And then one day, like maybe a year later, when 1:48:01.320 --> 1:48:05.320 they were up, when they were really up, and I 1:48:05.479 --> 1:48:10.640 wasn't nothing had to be like I don't know, I know, 1:48:10.760 --> 1:48:13.880 I had night school and I had to make up 1:48:13.920 --> 1:48:17.680 some classes to graduate, and they were already up. 1:48:17.760 --> 1:48:18.599 It was the eighties. 1:48:18.600 --> 1:48:21.799 They were already up, and they came on the block 1:48:23.000 --> 1:48:25.080 and they asked, can we get a. 1:48:24.920 --> 1:48:26.040 Fair one with me? 1:48:26.640 --> 1:48:29.280 But I was I didn't know what they were talking about, really, 1:48:30.280 --> 1:48:32.320 but that's what they were talking about. So they were 1:48:32.320 --> 1:48:34.400 asking my friends could they get a fair one? They 1:48:34.439 --> 1:48:36.800 thought you were smashing the homie, yeah, but I thought 1:48:36.840 --> 1:48:41.200 it was over. I thought it was over. Evidently it wasn't. 1:48:42.040 --> 1:48:45.360 So they came on the block and a few dudes 1:48:45.400 --> 1:48:46.360 lined up in front of me. 1:48:46.479 --> 1:48:47.920 But you know, I wasn't. I heard you say the 1:48:47.920 --> 1:48:49.040 block was bumping at it. 1:48:49.040 --> 1:48:52.879 It was bangingeah, the buses was moving, it was traffic, 1:48:54.240 --> 1:48:58.240 and long story short, once they got the co sign, 1:48:58.880 --> 1:49:02.719 it was like five or six dudes jumping on me right. 1:49:02.880 --> 1:49:06.479 So once they pulled everybody off of me, then that's 1:49:06.520 --> 1:49:08.880 when the fight started. But I was really messed up, 1:49:09.920 --> 1:49:11.760 you know what I mean. And I had taken a 1:49:12.600 --> 1:49:17.120 like a like a somebody had a spike ring right now. 1:49:17.439 --> 1:49:20.559 From that spike ring and punched me where I could 1:49:20.560 --> 1:49:25.200 put my lip through my my tongue through my lip, 1:49:25.560 --> 1:49:28.640 I could put my tongue through my lip, and I 1:49:28.720 --> 1:49:31.400 was swallowing all that blood I could just taste it. 1:49:32.160 --> 1:49:34.600 But see when I when I taste that blood, it 1:49:34.720 --> 1:49:38.720 does something to me. But I was still messed up, 1:49:38.880 --> 1:49:42.000 mind you. But when we got out in the street 1:49:42.640 --> 1:49:48.439 and I got my head together, we performed, well, perform well, 1:49:49.400 --> 1:49:52.120 you know what I'm saying. And you see what they 1:49:52.120 --> 1:49:55.840 don't understand is it's hard to fight a left handed person. 1:49:56.439 --> 1:49:57.920 Mm hm, I heard you said the dude. 1:49:57.720 --> 1:50:00.200 Was south for it's hard to fight a lit left 1:50:00.200 --> 1:50:03.160 handed person. Because I'm left handed, it's hard to fight me. Oh, 1:50:03.600 --> 1:50:07.120 it's hard. It's hard to fight me because you don't 1:50:07.280 --> 1:50:09.720 know where it's coming from. It's the blind side of 1:50:09.760 --> 1:50:12.679 whatever you're doing. Everybody, So when you throw the right hand, 1:50:13.560 --> 1:50:15.840 when you throw the right hand, I'm coming over the 1:50:15.920 --> 1:50:19.599 right hand, so you're not seeing You're seeing your punch, 1:50:19.680 --> 1:50:22.400 but you're not seeing my punch. If I was right handed, 1:50:22.439 --> 1:50:25.000 you could see my punches. But I'm left handed, so 1:50:25.040 --> 1:50:28.679 you can't see my punches. So nine times out of ten, 1:50:28.760 --> 1:50:31.960 every time I had to fight, you either try to 1:50:32.000 --> 1:50:34.120 scoop me. After a while, you try to scoop me, 1:50:34.200 --> 1:50:38.280 and that's when you lose. That's when you lose. When 1:50:38.280 --> 1:50:39.280 you try to scoop me. 1:50:39.840 --> 1:50:41.080 You really did like a boxer. 1:50:42.560 --> 1:50:45.800 But I studied all the boxing. Yeah, I'm telling you, 1:50:46.120 --> 1:50:48.439 I thought I was going to be a boxer. I 1:50:48.479 --> 1:50:50.960 studied all the boxing. I used to run jog with 1:50:51.000 --> 1:50:53.240 my dog. I used to jog with my dog. I 1:50:53.320 --> 1:50:56.160 used to think, Lo, listen. I can't take losses. I 1:50:56.200 --> 1:50:58.960 can't take beatens. That's the only thing I can't take. 1:50:59.000 --> 1:51:01.640 I can't take beatens from my mom, my dad, and 1:51:01.640 --> 1:51:04.400 the niggas on the street. I can't take the beat 1:51:04.600 --> 1:51:06.880 So what are you gonna do about it? I gotta 1:51:06.920 --> 1:51:09.639 figure it out, you know what I'm saying. I never 1:51:09.800 --> 1:51:13.439 at fifteen. I never hung with a kid fifteen. My 1:51:13.479 --> 1:51:15.639 friends was like thirty thirty two. 1:51:15.880 --> 1:51:19.320 Damn fifteen thirty fifteen to thirty Jesus Christ. 1:51:19.400 --> 1:51:21.760 Because the streets were different back then. It was you 1:51:21.840 --> 1:51:25.800 gotta think the streets. A dude with a third grade 1:51:25.880 --> 1:51:31.840 education could have can have a multi millionaire business on 1:51:31.880 --> 1:51:35.559 the corner. So how is he not gonna mess with 1:51:35.600 --> 1:51:37.840 a fifteen year old or a fourteen year old or 1:51:37.920 --> 1:51:38.719 twelve year old. 1:51:39.360 --> 1:51:40.400 That's how we learned. 1:51:40.800 --> 1:51:40.960 Well. 1:51:40.960 --> 1:51:43.080 The other thing you said that I think is lost 1:51:43.240 --> 1:51:44.160 is chaperoning. 1:51:44.840 --> 1:51:46.839 Yeah, chaperone. That's not happening anymore. 1:51:46.920 --> 1:51:50.120 Noah, people ain't ain't taking they siblings or their cousins. 1:51:50.600 --> 1:51:52.680 What I cared about my cousin, and I kid what 1:51:52.800 --> 1:51:55.080 happened to him, and I knew the climate, So I 1:51:55.120 --> 1:51:59.160 wanted him to have a good time, not get hurt. 1:51:59.520 --> 1:52:02.560 Not figure out that this girl is not who you 1:52:02.600 --> 1:52:05.720 should be with. But figure it out yourself. But I'm here. 1:52:05.760 --> 1:52:06.720 When it messes up. 1:52:07.479 --> 1:52:09.759 We'll hear about it. Nobody's taking care of their. 1:52:10.160 --> 1:52:12.880 It's all about family, you know what I'm saying. You're 1:52:12.880 --> 1:52:16.040 gonna look out for family. If it's your family and 1:52:16.080 --> 1:52:18.920 it's your close friend and it's somebody that means something 1:52:18.960 --> 1:52:20.200 that you're gonna look out for them. 1:52:20.840 --> 1:52:21.400 You know what I'm saying. 1:52:21.439 --> 1:52:24.080 You're not gonna let them go into something that could 1:52:24.120 --> 1:52:27.439 hurt them, you know, so especially when they're a couple 1:52:27.479 --> 1:52:29.280 of years younger than you. 1:52:29.280 --> 1:52:29.479 You know. 1:52:30.040 --> 1:52:32.360 But that was a that was a real famous fight 1:52:32.400 --> 1:52:34.960 in the town. I was a heavy fight in the 1:52:35.000 --> 1:52:38.280 town and we became best friends. Have picked us up 1:52:38.880 --> 1:52:41.200 and I didn't want to get in the car. He 1:52:41.240 --> 1:52:43.120 picked both of y'all up. He had him in the 1:52:43.160 --> 1:52:46.280 car already in the back seat. Oh, that's why you 1:52:46.320 --> 1:52:47.920 didn't want to get in. I didn't want to get 1:52:47.920 --> 1:52:50.360 in because his brother. 1:52:51.560 --> 1:52:52.479 Hit you in the back of the head. 1:52:52.640 --> 1:52:54.559 His brother kept hitting me in the back of the head. 1:52:54.600 --> 1:52:59.920 But then my friend hit his brother. And when his brother, 1:53:00.960 --> 1:53:03.920 his brother didn't just when my friend hit him, he 1:53:04.040 --> 1:53:07.439 felt like this not crumbled. We felt like he was 1:53:07.479 --> 1:53:09.640 already knocked out. And hit his head and bust his 1:53:09.640 --> 1:53:12.640 head like timber and hit his head the back of 1:53:12.640 --> 1:53:14.720 his head and the blood start coming out of him. 1:53:15.600 --> 1:53:19.040 So when we saw that, we figured, now the fight 1:53:19.160 --> 1:53:22.040 is really on. Because they kept saying, you came up 1:53:22.040 --> 1:53:25.800 here to fight him. Now you you keep jumping in. 1:53:26.120 --> 1:53:29.240 It's when when you're losing, you keep jumping in. And 1:53:29.280 --> 1:53:31.559 I already knew how to concussion. He was giving me 1:53:31.600 --> 1:53:34.960 two or three concussions. I already knew how to concussion. 1:53:35.000 --> 1:53:36.680 When they jumped on me the first time, I knew 1:53:36.680 --> 1:53:41.160 how to concussion. So that's how it was really a real, 1:53:41.360 --> 1:53:46.599 real fight. But through all of that, heav was mad 1:53:46.640 --> 1:53:52.400 at Troy for going up there and challenging the whole thing. 1:53:53.400 --> 1:53:59.280 And after that, God is good. We became brothers. We 1:53:59.360 --> 1:54:06.160 became tight. And you know when it happened. When he died, 1:54:08.560 --> 1:54:14.800 I felt something. I felt bad because I knew when 1:54:14.800 --> 1:54:18.760 we had that fight he transferred all his riches over 1:54:18.840 --> 1:54:22.559 to me. I knew it when he did that because 1:54:22.600 --> 1:54:25.680 I was nutted and he was up. But when he 1:54:25.760 --> 1:54:29.120 did that, he changed my life for the better. That 1:54:29.280 --> 1:54:32.160 one fight changed my life, and it put me on 1:54:32.240 --> 1:54:36.640 a path to work with Eddie f to work with 1:54:36.840 --> 1:54:40.880 v Ed, to work with Pete Rock, to work with 1:54:41.120 --> 1:54:43.880 I'll be sure, to work with Jeff Red. 1:54:45.040 --> 1:54:47.040 It was a lot of groups that when. 1:54:46.920 --> 1:54:49.080 You say that elevated like it brought you in, Like, 1:54:49.160 --> 1:54:52.280 how did you mean because you messing like fighting him 1:54:52.360 --> 1:54:54.200 or having before him brought you in. 1:54:54.160 --> 1:55:00.160 That I was a nobody. He fought a nobody, net 1:55:00.200 --> 1:55:06.280 him somebody. Wow, he should have avoided that nobody. Wow, 1:55:06.760 --> 1:55:08.120 he made them somebody. 1:55:08.200 --> 1:55:08.520 That's what. 1:55:09.360 --> 1:55:11.640 See, these are the lessons you learn in life when 1:55:11.680 --> 1:55:14.680 you are intelligent enough to sit back in your easy 1:55:14.800 --> 1:55:18.360 chair and see the vision of it and how you 1:55:18.360 --> 1:55:22.440 could teach your grandson and your sons how this thing go. 1:55:23.200 --> 1:55:25.200 Okay, let's stop me for one second. That's why I 1:55:25.280 --> 1:55:27.520 know you're thinking like a boxer. Let me just take 1:55:27.520 --> 1:55:31.080 you something because it's a boxer that night, and when 1:55:31.120 --> 1:55:34.440 you fight, you are on that same boxers level. It 1:55:34.440 --> 1:55:37.680 does not matter if you Muhammad Ali and you fucking 1:55:37.720 --> 1:55:42.440 this blunt right here, Bahama, it's on the same level. 1:55:42.480 --> 1:55:44.040 That's how I know you're thinking like a box I 1:55:44.080 --> 1:55:47.680 just didn't want to lose. I just didn't want to lose. 1:55:47.720 --> 1:55:50.520 And I know how horrific it was in those days 1:55:50.560 --> 1:55:53.760 to lose, because it wasn't like getting shot. You're getting 1:55:53.760 --> 1:55:58.240 your ass walked, you know what I'm saying, so that 1:55:58.600 --> 1:56:02.320 when they ask you for that five minutes, it's really 1:56:05.920 --> 1:56:11.600 your ass getting war So it's like drowning. It's like drowning. 1:56:12.320 --> 1:56:15.920 You can't control what another person's doing to you. And 1:56:16.000 --> 1:56:19.160 that was always my deep dark fear that I can't 1:56:19.160 --> 1:56:22.800 have that at all. And I know you're better than me, 1:56:23.080 --> 1:56:27.640 but I got tricks, and when I don't use them tricks, 1:56:27.960 --> 1:56:31.080 that's when I'm gonna lose. But I'm gonna got tricks 1:56:31.120 --> 1:56:33.960 for you, because all my old friends, by the time 1:56:34.000 --> 1:56:36.800 they got finished with me, nobody in junior high school 1:56:36.840 --> 1:56:39.720 could deal with me unless you were one hundred pounds bigger. 1:56:41.680 --> 1:56:43.640 That's the only time I lost, and when I was 1:56:43.680 --> 1:56:46.320 one hundred. You were one hundred pounds bigger than me. 1:56:47.000 --> 1:56:49.880 So you can move me, you can rag doll me, 1:56:50.200 --> 1:56:54.240 you can smother my stuff, and next thing I know, 1:56:54.320 --> 1:56:57.480 my head is being slammed into a park call. That's 1:56:57.480 --> 1:56:59.520 how it was back in them days. You could get 1:56:59.560 --> 1:57:04.400 a fair that one. Yeah, for real, I wish they 1:57:04.480 --> 1:57:07.120 bring that back. There'll be a lot more people, a 1:57:07.160 --> 1:57:10.760 lot and there'll be a lot more men being formed, 1:57:11.320 --> 1:57:14.400 because that's what made men. When you could get that 1:57:14.560 --> 1:57:18.160 five minutes win to lose, I didn't win them. All 1:57:20.600 --> 1:57:24.040 was you don't want to fight again. You know what 1:57:24.040 --> 1:57:25.800 I'm saying, You don't want to fight again. 1:57:26.320 --> 1:57:32.080 It's like and do you know they end up respecting you. 1:57:32.080 --> 1:57:35.040 Your enemies become your friends, and your friends become your 1:57:35.160 --> 1:57:36.440 enemies when you get money. 1:57:36.840 --> 1:57:39.160 That's what happened with you enjoyed I became friends that. 1:57:39.200 --> 1:57:40.080 It became friends. 1:57:40.680 --> 1:57:43.320 And when you become friends and you have those type 1:57:43.360 --> 1:57:45.440 of friends, then you change. 1:57:45.200 --> 1:57:47.160 Your outlook on friendship. 1:57:48.240 --> 1:57:51.120 The friends you had before are not your friends anymore 1:57:51.560 --> 1:57:54.800 because they can't relate to you anymore. They don't see 1:57:54.880 --> 1:57:57.680 your growth, they don't see your maturity, they don't see 1:57:57.680 --> 1:58:01.600 your elevation. They don't see your God. They on demon time? 1:58:01.640 --> 1:58:05.640 And you you, you like, what are you talking about? 1:58:05.880 --> 1:58:08.680 Everything I got from God? What you got from the devil? 1:58:10.000 --> 1:58:13.400 Everything I got is from God. I thought it was me. 1:58:13.920 --> 1:58:16.240 I was telling you it was me, but I didn't 1:58:16.320 --> 1:58:19.080 know it wasn't me. It was God giving me everything. 1:58:20.120 --> 1:58:22.560 I'm telling you cross over so you can get what 1:58:22.680 --> 1:58:27.360 I get. But you on demon time. You keep professing it. 1:58:28.000 --> 1:58:31.120 So it has to come true. So don't get mad 1:58:31.160 --> 1:58:37.880 when I have more than you. 1:58:36.880 --> 1:58:43.200 So how did y'all? How did y'all? Because how did 1:58:43.240 --> 1:58:47.040 y'all actually go from being foes to friends? 1:58:49.800 --> 1:58:54.480 He connected it because heav was the one that brought 1:58:54.840 --> 1:58:56.240 He brought the reality to it. 1:58:56.280 --> 1:58:57.520 He brought the facts to it. 1:58:57.960 --> 1:59:03.120 Like you you are on the job, You are in 1:59:03.160 --> 1:59:08.280 the spotlight. No, no, I wasn't in the spotlight. Troy 1:59:08.440 --> 1:59:11.520 was in the spotlight. Troy was on the album covers. 1:59:12.480 --> 1:59:15.800 Troy was that guy. I was never that guy. Troy 1:59:15.880 --> 1:59:18.880 made that guy at that night. He made that night. 1:59:19.880 --> 1:59:23.680 Nobody knew it, but he made Corey that night. See, 1:59:23.760 --> 1:59:25.960 certain things have to happen in order for you to 1:59:26.000 --> 1:59:31.200 be you. It don't take you to be you sometime 1:59:31.280 --> 1:59:35.160 it take another person to be you, then another person 1:59:35.240 --> 1:59:38.600 introduces you when you get bigger. You know what I'm saying. 1:59:38.720 --> 1:59:43.680 It's about networking. We didn't have all that other stuff 1:59:43.720 --> 1:59:47.720 back then, but the networking. If you official, you official. 1:59:47.960 --> 1:59:51.240 If you are lame, you are lame. If you unproductive, 1:59:51.320 --> 1:59:55.720 you unproductive. But even the unproductive dudes got some love 1:59:55.880 --> 2:00:00.360 because they knew he might be unproductive. But when Homie 2:00:00.400 --> 2:00:03.480 get off that porch, he's gonna fire away. 2:00:04.640 --> 2:00:08.400 Yeah. So he's not a thinker, he's a deer. You 2:00:08.440 --> 2:00:10.440 know what I mean. Let me do the thinking, you 2:00:10.560 --> 2:00:12.840 do the doing. You know what I mean. 2:00:13.200 --> 2:00:18.840 Real talk, real talk, man, Jesus, we had fun in 2:00:18.880 --> 2:00:22.680 those days. Yes, those were like I'm an old New Yorker. 2:00:23.200 --> 2:00:27.880 I always tell everybody this New New York I'm not from. 2:00:28.240 --> 2:00:32.520 I'm from the town, but I'm from the old New York. 2:00:33.440 --> 2:00:36.160 You know what I mean, down to the blackouts and 2:00:36.200 --> 2:00:39.960 the serial killers. I'm from the old New York. I'm 2:00:39.960 --> 2:00:42.960 from the old New York. I remember when, and it's 2:00:43.000 --> 2:00:46.280 not the negative part is that when everybody was alive. 2:00:46.440 --> 2:00:49.240 I remember when everybody with Disney wasn't there. There you 2:00:49.320 --> 2:00:52.680 go and everybody was alive. Shows. 2:00:54.040 --> 2:00:59.720 Everybody was alive, everybody was out of jail, everybody wasn't 2:00:59.720 --> 2:01:00.960 literally in the graveyard. 2:01:01.600 --> 2:01:03.680 And none of us sound like each other as artists. 2:01:03.760 --> 2:01:05.880 No, you wanted to be different in the stick of 2:01:06.000 --> 2:01:08.480 kids who you wanted to be like, yes, that's real 2:01:08.520 --> 2:01:09.480 because they had it all. 2:01:10.360 --> 2:01:15.320 That's real. I remember I used to get pulled over 2:01:15.360 --> 2:01:18.640 and tell the people I'm a rapper. That was cool. 2:01:18.960 --> 2:01:20.600 Now i'll get pulled over, I'll tell them I'm a 2:01:20.640 --> 2:01:24.840 drug dealer. Loog it. It's safer to be a drug 2:01:24.880 --> 2:01:28.480 dealer and a rapper right now, like this city is crazy. 2:01:28.520 --> 2:01:29.840 Did you realize. 2:01:32.560 --> 2:01:36.320 The drug dealer and a rapper kind of like switch sides, 2:01:36.880 --> 2:01:37.920 Because at one point, it. 2:01:37.840 --> 2:01:40.680 Was so cool to be a drug dealer, right, that's all. 2:01:40.560 --> 2:01:43.920 We had, And then we realized their fate was two 2:01:44.040 --> 2:01:47.440 different things. Right, it was either jail or whatever. But 2:01:47.480 --> 2:01:51.840 then the rapper took over. Right, But now the rapper 2:01:51.920 --> 2:01:56.720 is becoming a drug dealer. It's the fate's the same. 2:01:56.800 --> 2:01:58.680 Did you ever think that you would see that. 2:02:00.160 --> 2:02:02.600 I would never think it because we were always trying 2:02:02.600 --> 2:02:06.360 to get out, like we're talking about it out the ghetto. 2:02:06.960 --> 2:02:08.240 We wasn't trying to come. 2:02:08.520 --> 2:02:11.280 The only reason why the dealers were in the ghetto 2:02:11.320 --> 2:02:12.520 with their money is because. 2:02:12.280 --> 2:02:13.200 Their business was there. 2:02:13.920 --> 2:02:14.400 That's real. 2:02:14.880 --> 2:02:18.560 Their business was there, so in order to do their business, 2:02:18.560 --> 2:02:20.840 they got to be there. If they're not there, they 2:02:20.840 --> 2:02:21.879 ain't doing no business. 2:02:22.000 --> 2:02:22.440 That's real. 2:02:22.760 --> 2:02:23.120 Okay. 2:02:23.240 --> 2:02:27.480 So when I became a rapper, my thing was to 2:02:27.520 --> 2:02:30.480 get out too. I don't want to I don't want 2:02:30.480 --> 2:02:32.200 a house next to you. I don't want to live 2:02:32.240 --> 2:02:34.440 next to the stick up kid. I don't want to 2:02:34.480 --> 2:02:36.880 live next to the drug dealer. I don't want to 2:02:36.880 --> 2:02:40.840 live next to the dude that extorting somebody or or 2:02:41.200 --> 2:02:41.960 he's a mugger. 2:02:42.600 --> 2:02:44.760 I don't want to go to jail all the time 2:02:45.320 --> 2:02:46.480 I go visit over there. 2:02:46.880 --> 2:02:49.520 I'm not trying to stay over there because I know 2:02:49.600 --> 2:02:52.200 it's just a matter of time. When I elevate, they 2:02:52.200 --> 2:02:56.040 coming to my spot. When I want something, they coming. 2:02:56.960 --> 2:03:02.320 You're never too big to get robbed. It's you never 2:03:02.400 --> 2:03:05.960 too big to get robbed. Come on, I just can't 2:03:06.000 --> 2:03:08.800 live with it. That's the only thing difference with me 2:03:09.040 --> 2:03:11.320 is that you could take a little change from me, 2:03:11.360 --> 2:03:13.400 and I'm willing to die for it because I'm not 2:03:13.400 --> 2:03:16.360 built like that. You gotta rob the dead body. I'm 2:03:16.360 --> 2:03:20.320 not conditioned to give you my stuff. I'm conditioned to 2:03:20.360 --> 2:03:22.040 die because this is what I'm willing to wear. 2:03:23.400 --> 2:03:27.080 That's it. It's what you could live with. Some people 2:03:27.120 --> 2:03:29.080 could live with giving it up. 2:03:30.840 --> 2:03:33.600 I don't think I could live with that because once 2:03:33.640 --> 2:03:35.320 I do that, you gotta keep giving it up. 2:03:36.640 --> 2:03:37.600 And I'm not with that. 2:03:38.360 --> 2:03:42.560 So let's go in our range of what we do 2:03:43.480 --> 2:03:47.760 and how we do it, and not over extend ourselves. 2:03:48.200 --> 2:03:50.480 That's why I said I like to live under my means, 2:03:50.480 --> 2:03:56.400 but in a better neighborhood than you, right, Because how 2:03:56.400 --> 2:03:58.520 we're going to survive if we don't got no good base. 2:04:00.120 --> 2:04:05.640 Even al Qaeda got a good base, Sure to blow 2:04:05.720 --> 2:04:07.280 up ship. You gotta have a good base. 2:04:12.200 --> 2:04:13.240 Your ship. Land. 2:04:14.360 --> 2:04:16.280 You ain't got a good base that ship, come right 2:04:16.320 --> 2:04:17.880 back and blow up your ship. 2:04:18.400 --> 2:04:39.320 Come on, bro. 2:04:32.120 --> 2:04:35.360 No, it takes the base for you. Your foundation, right, 2:04:35.720 --> 2:04:39.440 that's what it is. The basis a foundation that you 2:04:39.560 --> 2:04:43.080 build off of. And if you if on that foundation, 2:04:43.200 --> 2:04:45.240 if you build straw, you know you could burn it down. 2:04:45.640 --> 2:04:47.760 If you build it with bricks, it's gonna be sturdy. 2:04:47.880 --> 2:04:50.839 So that's a good foundation. As long as your foundation 2:04:51.000 --> 2:04:53.840 is good, anything is possible. You know what I'm saying. 2:04:54.800 --> 2:04:59.680 Let me I know I asked you this a little 2:04:59.720 --> 2:05:07.320 bit earlier in a different way. But again for me, 2:05:08.920 --> 2:05:11.840 I love the rap I had, you know, as at 2:05:11.920 --> 2:05:14.520 least at one point that was that was my craftmanship. 2:05:15.320 --> 2:05:21.440 But when I had to turn it into business, I 2:05:21.520 --> 2:05:24.640 kind of like hated it because I had to look 2:05:24.680 --> 2:05:28.400 at every look, every fast, every fast of here. When 2:05:28.440 --> 2:05:31.360 I looked at and by the way, God bless me 2:05:31.400 --> 2:05:33.680 for everybody else in this room, I know that this 2:05:33.800 --> 2:05:37.120 question might be just for me, because when I did 2:05:37.400 --> 2:05:41.440 look at every facet of it, I was disgusted fast 2:05:41.800 --> 2:05:44.800 as far as hell, like as far as to like. 2:05:44.920 --> 2:05:46.480 Like I'm actually. 2:05:48.320 --> 2:05:52.360 I'm actually like when let me just say it to myself, 2:05:52.400 --> 2:05:54.840 like I was actually a pawn in this when I 2:05:54.880 --> 2:05:57.280 looked at it, like this was a high loan that 2:05:57.400 --> 2:05:59.600 I accepted that I signed for. 2:06:00.360 --> 2:06:01.520 We've talked about this a lot. 2:06:01.720 --> 2:06:04.880 I signed for, I accepted I signed for, and I 2:06:04.960 --> 2:06:08.800 always like I was like the dumb kid that said, 2:06:09.080 --> 2:06:11.360 you know what, I know this this deal is bad, 2:06:13.120 --> 2:06:14.880 but the next one is going to be greater. Right, 2:06:15.640 --> 2:06:20.320 So that's and then I realized doing this show that 2:06:20.480 --> 2:06:22.200 everyone else thought like me too. 2:06:22.520 --> 2:06:25.760 Sure, it's how you flip it after that? No, yes, 2:06:25.840 --> 2:06:26.560 of course. 2:06:28.120 --> 2:06:33.320 When it was your first deal, did you read it 2:06:33.360 --> 2:06:35.440 and know that this might have not been the right 2:06:35.480 --> 2:06:38.120 thing to sign, but you still did it? 2:06:38.280 --> 2:06:40.960 Just like I did? You know what? You're asking me 2:06:41.000 --> 2:06:43.680 a question? I don't know shit about? What do you mean? 2:06:43.960 --> 2:06:46.720 Because it's like, I don't remember if it was good 2:06:46.800 --> 2:06:49.280 or not. There's an opportunity. 2:06:50.960 --> 2:06:55.040 Yeah, I don't remember if it was Like who says, Oh, 2:06:55.120 --> 2:06:56.280 I know about that deal? 2:06:56.960 --> 2:06:59.440 I know especially came from. 2:06:59.720 --> 2:07:05.800 Yeah, I don't have nothing I know about that. I 2:07:05.880 --> 2:07:08.720 needed Eddie, I needed have I needed? 2:07:09.520 --> 2:07:10.120 I need it? 2:07:10.200 --> 2:07:10.480 Shit? 2:07:10.720 --> 2:07:15.080 Like, what do I know? How Listen, I ain't going 2:07:15.120 --> 2:07:15.760 to school for that? 2:07:16.240 --> 2:07:16.520 Right? 2:07:17.200 --> 2:07:18.640 How do I know what good? 2:07:18.680 --> 2:07:19.240 It is bad? 2:07:19.960 --> 2:07:22.960 How do I know unless he told me? If he 2:07:23.120 --> 2:07:25.400 told me it is good, then it must be good. 2:07:25.640 --> 2:07:27.760 If it ain't good, he gonna get his neck broke. 2:07:28.200 --> 2:07:33.680 And who he's saying when you say here here is whoever? 2:07:34.560 --> 2:07:37.440 Because isn't that what was going on back there? You're right, 2:07:38.240 --> 2:07:40.680 how are you going to tell these little kids you 2:07:40.840 --> 2:07:41.640 robbing them? 2:07:41.840 --> 2:07:44.800 You can't. That's why I said it's predatory lending. 2:07:44.800 --> 2:07:49.960 Right, So so I'm thinking as I get older and 2:07:50.120 --> 2:07:53.880 get twenty five, your foot is in the door, make 2:07:53.960 --> 2:07:54.360 it work. 2:07:54.880 --> 2:07:57.720 Get the other foot in. That's exactly how Yeah, I 2:07:57.720 --> 2:08:01.480 don't care what you're robbing me. That's the right of passage. 2:08:01.600 --> 2:08:02.080 Robbing me. 2:08:02.800 --> 2:08:06.320 Okay, Now once you're finished robbing me, can I plug 2:08:06.360 --> 2:08:09.720 the whole? Do I know how to plug it? Do 2:08:09.800 --> 2:08:12.040 I know how to make it to where they're not 2:08:12.160 --> 2:08:14.360 robbing me no more? And plug the hole? And then 2:08:14.680 --> 2:08:17.360 now the oiling leaking, now the air rain coming out 2:08:17.360 --> 2:08:17.960 of the balloon. 2:08:18.200 --> 2:08:21.880 Now can I get money now? Because I know you 2:08:22.000 --> 2:08:22.760 rob me here? 2:08:22.960 --> 2:08:26.160 So now you can't rob me because as I'm going on, 2:08:27.000 --> 2:08:31.080 I'm educating myself to what I'm getting into. It's like 2:08:31.800 --> 2:08:34.000 I ain't know what Rykers Island was about till I 2:08:34.040 --> 2:08:37.280 got there, bro, And then when I got there, there's 2:08:37.320 --> 2:08:40.280 certain things you gotta do when you get there. 2:08:40.600 --> 2:08:46.400 It's not viola, it's not val Yeah. 2:08:46.480 --> 2:08:52.400 Okay, so two different things, right, So you have to 2:08:52.480 --> 2:08:57.000 know how to adapt to whatever you're doing. If you 2:08:57.040 --> 2:08:59.640 don't know you're getting robbed because you're getting money and 2:09:00.040 --> 2:09:03.640 it's nutted, So you don't know you're getting robbed till 2:09:03.680 --> 2:09:04.520 you get educated. 2:09:04.600 --> 2:09:06.720 Then you start fixing yourself. 2:09:09.160 --> 2:09:12.360 I'm sure every drug dealer that's a kingpin, they got 2:09:12.440 --> 2:09:15.480 robbed first before they knew how toy, before they knew 2:09:15.480 --> 2:09:19.400 how to whip that motherfucking shit, like right, so they 2:09:19.480 --> 2:09:22.680 was getting robbed till he knew how to risk that 2:09:22.760 --> 2:09:28.320 joint and stretch that motherfucking thing and make it what 2:09:28.400 --> 2:09:31.800 it is. Now he don't need you no more because 2:09:31.880 --> 2:09:34.320 now he know what to do. You can't rob him 2:09:34.320 --> 2:09:36.360 no more. So he gonna take his show on the road. 2:09:37.640 --> 2:09:38.600 And that's what it is. 2:09:39.120 --> 2:09:41.320 That was. That was a write of passage back then 2:09:41.400 --> 2:09:42.160 to get robbed. 2:09:42.160 --> 2:09:46.280 Now, when you get robbed, it's so many variables to 2:09:46.920 --> 2:09:50.640 the reclabels I'm talking about right now. Back then you 2:09:50.680 --> 2:09:53.080 could get robbed and nobody ever know it till you die, 2:09:54.680 --> 2:09:57.440 right yes, Now when you get robbed, they know it 2:09:57.520 --> 2:10:02.400 right away. Yeah, yeah, they know or right away yeah, 2:10:02.440 --> 2:10:04.560 well it ain't no delay as soon as you wake up. 2:10:04.600 --> 2:10:09.080 He took this, He took that, yo. Like I told you, 2:10:09.320 --> 2:10:14.640 I'm so in all their real life, not their music business. 2:10:14.880 --> 2:10:18.000 Their music business just introduced me to their real life. 2:10:19.000 --> 2:10:22.480 Like you really go through those problems with seven million 2:10:22.520 --> 2:10:24.880 dollars I ain't going to that problem with seven hundred thousand. 2:10:26.240 --> 2:10:29.760 You really paying them niggas and they acting like that 2:10:29.800 --> 2:10:31.800 when you're in jail and they coming yo. 2:10:31.880 --> 2:10:34.520 That shit is like a movie. To me, I'm like 2:10:34.560 --> 2:10:38.600 a YouTube junkie to it. Listen. 2:10:38.960 --> 2:10:42.400 How I keep myself hip is not being some old 2:10:42.440 --> 2:10:43.640 man around young niggas. 2:10:43.680 --> 2:10:47.400 It's outside looking in for the spectrum. 2:10:47.720 --> 2:10:51.680 And social media allows you to look into people's lives 2:10:51.960 --> 2:10:57.120 without even fucking with them, without even knowing them you did, 2:10:57.480 --> 2:11:01.560 without even having no stakes in what they doing. Just now, 2:11:01.640 --> 2:11:06.600 if it was my job to bust you, Lord, have mercy. 2:11:06.800 --> 2:11:12.040 How are you surviving. I'll be a church boy. I'll 2:11:12.080 --> 2:11:15.480 be a choir boy. How are you surviving with the 2:11:16.120 --> 2:11:19.880 cameras on the street? You bringing the camera every time 2:11:19.920 --> 2:11:22.720 you do a murder? Can stick up? 2:11:23.240 --> 2:11:23.840 Come on, bro? 2:11:24.040 --> 2:11:26.800 What we doing man? I thought the whole objective is 2:11:26.800 --> 2:11:30.200 to get away with it. Now your shit is to 2:11:30.280 --> 2:11:33.760 take ownership of it and do thirty forty years with 2:11:34.560 --> 2:11:35.840 fifteen million dollars. 2:11:36.040 --> 2:11:37.240 To slut your ops. 2:11:37.280 --> 2:11:41.320 Know you didn't with fifteen million dollars in the bank 2:11:42.480 --> 2:11:42.920 doing that. 2:11:44.440 --> 2:11:46.400 Come on, man, this world is different. 2:11:46.920 --> 2:11:49.520 I'm supposed to be an old man, because I don't 2:11:49.560 --> 2:11:53.040 want to grow up with them making those mistakes. Now 2:11:53.040 --> 2:11:55.880 I could see you. You shot up four people that 2:11:55.960 --> 2:11:59.120 try to rob your drug spot. That's my error, you 2:11:59.200 --> 2:12:02.200 know what I mean? You're a serial killer. You got busted. 2:12:02.240 --> 2:12:05.440 You're doing one hundred and fifty years. Yeah, that's my error. 2:12:05.640 --> 2:12:06.000 All right? 2:12:06.640 --> 2:12:10.440 This getting fifteen million and coming back to fire away 2:12:10.440 --> 2:12:14.040 at niggas who don't got three hundred dollars getting killed. 2:12:13.760 --> 2:12:14.400 In an uber? 2:12:15.320 --> 2:12:18.320 No, come on, and you driving may back and you're 2:12:18.360 --> 2:12:22.280 killing a nigga in an uber? Come on, man, dancing 2:12:22.320 --> 2:12:26.560 on grades. You needed money for that. I'm gonna say 2:12:26.560 --> 2:12:29.760 it again. You needed money for that. You should have 2:12:29.840 --> 2:12:33.080 no money and you got fifteen million. You can find 2:12:33.080 --> 2:12:33.880 something else to do. 2:12:35.120 --> 2:12:35.560 Yeah. 2:12:35.760 --> 2:12:40.240 Wait, and the music, the music predicates that you do that. 2:12:42.160 --> 2:12:47.160 What kind of music is that? And everything sound the same? 2:12:47.640 --> 2:12:51.880 Kill kill kill kill kill kill kill. I love you? 2:12:52.000 --> 2:12:55.560 Wait that killing shit make me not trust you. So 2:12:55.640 --> 2:12:59.200 when you say you're a rapper, now, what do you mean? 2:12:59.520 --> 2:13:02.720 That's like saying I go to Iraq and I shoot people. 2:13:04.480 --> 2:13:09.320 You're a soldier? You getting ready to die? Any Why 2:13:09.400 --> 2:13:10.280 you buying watches? 2:13:10.760 --> 2:13:14.520 You're gonna be here, but let's be honest here. 2:13:14.560 --> 2:13:17.240 There's there's a lot of there's a lot of dope 2:13:17.320 --> 2:13:20.200 artists out there, young artists, oh that are doing dope 2:13:20.200 --> 2:13:21.320 shit that are not that. 2:13:21.440 --> 2:13:24.600 Hold on, why do they take the best artists and 2:13:24.720 --> 2:13:25.440 kill them? 2:13:25.840 --> 2:13:26.000 Yo? 2:13:26.040 --> 2:13:29.920 You leave us with shit you ain't yo the ones 2:13:30.000 --> 2:13:32.280 coming after them? Come on, let's be keeping one hundred 2:13:32.440 --> 2:13:36.600 dang like that. You're killing the best shit. You just 2:13:36.720 --> 2:13:40.960 killed the best shit. I know the difference when apple 2:13:41.160 --> 2:13:43.880 is bruised or it's pure. 2:13:44.120 --> 2:13:45.200 I know the difference. 2:13:45.280 --> 2:13:49.000 Bro. Wh Why are you killing the best shit and 2:13:49.040 --> 2:13:52.480 you're leaving us with the alternatives? The twelve nigga off 2:13:52.520 --> 2:13:56.200 the bench. That nigga ain't Jordan, that nigga ain't Kobe. 2:13:56.240 --> 2:14:02.600 You just killed them. How how is this a business? 2:14:03.800 --> 2:14:10.320 It's beyond business. It's monkey business. Without trees to swing on, 2:14:11.200 --> 2:14:15.320 you're just slamming your head on the concrete. You're just 2:14:15.360 --> 2:14:17.720 swinging in the air and your head hit the concrete. 2:14:19.160 --> 2:14:19.320 Bro. 2:14:20.680 --> 2:14:23.760 Come on, bro, how we doing this? Man? 2:14:23.880 --> 2:14:26.720 I love for in order for us young people to 2:14:26.800 --> 2:14:31.120 win and win big people. How young people gotta win. 2:14:32.200 --> 2:14:35.000 I don't see no white kids with those type of problems. 2:14:35.360 --> 2:14:38.000 I don't see no air Arab kids with those type 2:14:38.000 --> 2:14:43.040 of problems. I don't see it. While we got that problem, 2:14:43.560 --> 2:14:45.600 why we can't love you and cherish you? Why you 2:14:45.640 --> 2:14:48.680 got to kill your own good shit? You just killed 2:14:48.760 --> 2:14:51.160 pop smoke man, and then you come behind them with 2:14:51.200 --> 2:14:56.480 what he's the best? What are you coming with? He's 2:14:56.520 --> 2:15:00.960 the best and you killed him, right? You killed them, 2:15:01.000 --> 2:15:03.720 and you want us to settle for you. I don't 2:15:03.760 --> 2:15:07.920 really feel that. I don't really feel I remember when 2:15:07.960 --> 2:15:10.840 you ain't even know our mothers. Now you know everybody? Mother, 2:15:11.880 --> 2:15:16.800 I told you, oh you they everybody's in their business. 2:15:16.840 --> 2:15:21.880 Everybody's in everybody's business. Man, that's some punk shit. I 2:15:21.920 --> 2:15:25.360 don't I don't get it. They know your mom, they 2:15:25.400 --> 2:15:28.800 know they know who you ain't supposed to know my 2:15:28.840 --> 2:15:34.800 mom my dad. Let's keep it on this, you know 2:15:34.840 --> 2:15:38.320 what I mean? Like, nobody know who Aaron Judge parents is. 2:15:38.400 --> 2:15:42.760 Nobody care Derek jetera cool, they're in the box. 2:15:44.120 --> 2:15:47.120 No, we know Jerry Jedda Well parents is white and black. 2:15:48.880 --> 2:15:52.200 But see that's the point. There's a place for it, 2:15:52.600 --> 2:15:57.000 there's a there's a position for it. Nobody want to 2:15:57.000 --> 2:15:59.920 see a black mother in a Spanish mother crying over 2:16:00.080 --> 2:16:04.200 you killed they kid with seven eight twenty million with 2:16:04.320 --> 2:16:06.240 the potential to have a hundred million. 2:16:06.880 --> 2:16:09.480 So what does that say for our culture? It's a 2:16:09.600 --> 2:16:10.960 destructive culture. 2:16:11.840 --> 2:16:12.280 I agree. 2:16:12.400 --> 2:16:16.040 Who somebody has to win from this destructive culture? 2:16:17.040 --> 2:16:20.360 Who wins? There's a winner, God, who wins? 2:16:21.480 --> 2:16:24.120 Dan you when you find out who wins, aren't you 2:16:24.480 --> 2:16:28.680 fucking disgusted? We was disgusted when we got robbed. It's 2:16:28.680 --> 2:16:31.880 bigger than that, now, bigger than that. Yeah, we end 2:16:32.000 --> 2:16:38.800 up getting that money. 2:16:39.600 --> 2:16:41.199 We end up getting that money back. 2:16:41.720 --> 2:16:44.240 But hold hold, hold up, because when I was when 2:16:44.240 --> 2:16:47.440 I was saying there's dope artists, there's dope artists beyond 2:16:47.440 --> 2:16:50.240 the artists that are talking because some of the artists were. 2:16:50.280 --> 2:16:52.440 Mentioned we're talking the street shit. 2:16:52.720 --> 2:16:55.720 Yeah, there's a lot of young dope artists that aren't 2:16:55.760 --> 2:16:59.640 talking the street shit that are lyrical mcs that that 2:16:59.720 --> 2:17:01.240 are in this. 2:17:01.240 --> 2:17:02.760 Whole youth culture. 2:17:03.000 --> 2:17:06.039 Digzel Curry, Denzel Curry or Coast Contra. 2:17:06.080 --> 2:17:07.760 What is a contract with colost Contra? 2:17:07.840 --> 2:17:08.040 Right? 2:17:08.520 --> 2:17:10.880 Those guys with those guys off the chain, No, those 2:17:10.879 --> 2:17:14.000 guys off the chain. There's a bunch of dope young 2:17:14.080 --> 2:17:16.720 art The thing is the difference between our era and 2:17:16.760 --> 2:17:19.840 this era is it's so many artists it's hard to 2:17:19.920 --> 2:17:22.400 keep track. There could be an artist that does festivals 2:17:22.440 --> 2:17:25.080 and has millions of fans that we would never even 2:17:25.160 --> 2:17:26.560 know if they ask us. 2:17:26.600 --> 2:17:28.760 You know what I'm saying, Like our brother Russ. I 2:17:28.800 --> 2:17:34.080 love Russ, You would never know Russ, and I love 2:17:34.160 --> 2:17:37.320 what Russ is doing. But I look and I see 2:17:37.440 --> 2:17:39.280 and no one like, you know what I mean, like 2:17:40.000 --> 2:17:42.240 that kind of co science for us, But I do. 2:17:42.520 --> 2:17:44.640 But but but my point is this, I mean, it's 2:17:44.640 --> 2:17:47.360 this fan base, right, but but this is my point. 2:17:47.400 --> 2:17:49.360 My point is this is that we concentrate on the 2:17:49.400 --> 2:17:54.200 negative because the negative shines the most. The controversy shines 2:17:54.200 --> 2:17:55.840 the most, the negativity. 2:17:55.879 --> 2:17:59.080 We're all we're all attracted. We're all attracted to negative. 2:17:59.320 --> 2:18:02.800 Death doesn't come with the element then it gris by 2:18:02.840 --> 2:18:04.400 the way, you have. 2:18:04.400 --> 2:18:06.600 This dope ass artist over here that's killing the game. 2:18:07.080 --> 2:18:09.680 But this person does this or gets killed, and we're 2:18:09.680 --> 2:18:13.800 all here. We're not here with this guy who has 2:18:13.840 --> 2:18:16.600 a million or girl who has a million plus fan 2:18:16.680 --> 2:18:18.920 base that's positive. 2:18:19.080 --> 2:18:22.959 And as a true MC and is of the culture. 2:18:23.640 --> 2:18:26.039 We're not here. We're over here. It was one net 2:18:26.080 --> 2:18:30.200 at one time. Right now, it's pockets of wrap. But 2:18:30.240 --> 2:18:32.640 we need to we need to pocket open ourselves to 2:18:32.720 --> 2:18:33.320 this pocket. 2:18:33.680 --> 2:18:38.879 This pocket might have drill, this pocket might have trap, 2:18:39.520 --> 2:18:43.720 this pocket might have conscious, and this pocket might have. 2:18:46.520 --> 2:18:51.039 Ratchet. Let me ask, let me change the subject. No, no, no, 2:18:51.040 --> 2:18:52.279 we shouldn't change the subject. 2:18:52.360 --> 2:18:54.160 Okay, we should stay on the subject, stay on it 2:18:54.160 --> 2:18:56.240 because I think this is important for us to speak about, 2:18:56.560 --> 2:18:59.240 because I think that there's there's a lot of positivity 2:18:59.440 --> 2:19:02.440 in the culture that we just don't shine a light on. 2:19:02.920 --> 2:19:04.840 That's this not a hole. 2:19:05.320 --> 2:19:08.240 See, you can't shine light on something that pockets of 2:19:08.400 --> 2:19:14.240 things override. You're right, it overrides it because you're saying, Okay, now, 2:19:14.360 --> 2:19:18.160 if I come in with ratchet, you ain't selling. 2:19:18.760 --> 2:19:23.600 If I come in with drill, you ain't selling. Now. 2:19:23.680 --> 2:19:27.320 The only thing that I positive I give to the 2:19:27.360 --> 2:19:31.520 whole concept of when it was a hole is that 2:19:31.560 --> 2:19:36.040 the insurance was lower. You can get somewhere now you 2:19:37.120 --> 2:19:40.800 insurance is high for these artists, these young artists. Yeah, 2:19:40.800 --> 2:19:43.800 they're getting a lot of money, but you you gotta 2:19:43.840 --> 2:19:47.320 be on the tour, you can't spot date, you can't 2:19:47.400 --> 2:19:50.800 do all of these things because the insurance is so enormous. 2:19:51.280 --> 2:19:52.720 Because somebody's gonna get shot. 2:19:53.480 --> 2:19:57.520 Are you saying that this artist over here on the 2:19:57.560 --> 2:20:00.640 negative tip is making more bread than this artists over here? 2:20:00.640 --> 2:20:04.640 Is it's not It's actually not true. I don't say no, 2:20:04.680 --> 2:20:06.160 that's what I know. That's what I'm saying. 2:20:05.920 --> 2:20:09.800 Is because we're living in a time fortunately for these 2:20:09.920 --> 2:20:14.599 artists that they find their fan base and they're playing festivals, 2:20:14.640 --> 2:20:18.720 and they're they've got direct to consumer and they're they're 2:20:18.760 --> 2:20:22.640 making millions of dollars. But if you ask you me 2:20:22.879 --> 2:20:25.360 or you hey, do you know MC song, so it'll 2:20:25.400 --> 2:20:28.600 be like I heard of them because they're not directly 2:20:28.640 --> 2:20:29.840 in our gram feed. 2:20:30.080 --> 2:20:34.320 I agree with you, but I also agree that he's 2:20:34.360 --> 2:20:37.760 not getting in trouble. So he's banking all his money 2:20:38.200 --> 2:20:42.520 minus of what his business consists of. But that same 2:20:42.560 --> 2:20:45.400 guy is getting in trouble. Not only does he have 2:20:45.480 --> 2:20:47.800 to spend the money to stay out to get out 2:20:47.840 --> 2:20:49.760 of trouble, but he has to keep up with the 2:20:49.760 --> 2:20:51.320 god that's not getting in trouble. 2:20:51.680 --> 2:20:55.280 So he has to make more right. No, that has 2:20:55.320 --> 2:20:56.160 to make more right. 2:20:56.920 --> 2:20:59.160 Okay, So that guy is not going to be in 2:20:59.240 --> 2:21:01.119 demand like this serial killer. 2:21:04.800 --> 2:21:08.640 No way, the serial killers and themand serial killers, the 2:21:08.680 --> 2:21:14.280 man with the serial killer, which which corn flakes or listen. 2:21:15.560 --> 2:21:20.800 When that insurance is high, that's a high demand because 2:21:20.800 --> 2:21:23.680 in order for you to even consider it, it has 2:21:23.720 --> 2:21:28.440 to be in demand. So that nice guy, he's gonna 2:21:28.440 --> 2:21:31.240 go steady. I love the nice guy. That's like my dad. 2:21:31.280 --> 2:21:35.640 He's the nice guy. Everybody had way more money than them, 2:21:35.680 --> 2:21:38.920 and they went to jail. But he kept on along, 2:21:39.360 --> 2:21:43.760 kept his house and queens paid it off. But these 2:21:43.800 --> 2:21:50.240 guys have millions of dollars and ran queens. He stayed 2:21:50.240 --> 2:21:54.000 the course, He stayed the course. He never went to jail. 2:21:54.240 --> 2:21:57.720 He stayed the course. His house is paid off. These 2:21:57.760 --> 2:22:00.480 guys with millions of dollars have just come out of 2:22:00.560 --> 2:22:04.200 jail or getting ready to come out of jail. And 2:22:04.240 --> 2:22:07.640 what did my dad do. He kept that little engine 2:22:07.640 --> 2:22:12.440 that could running. These guys had big Boeing setting forty seven. 2:22:12.560 --> 2:22:15.320 My dad never been on no private jet. And these 2:22:15.400 --> 2:22:19.520 dudes go to jail. But still, this is what I'm saying, 2:22:19.560 --> 2:22:21.560 they're not nice guys. Of what I'm trying to say, 2:22:21.680 --> 2:22:22.560 who's not nice guys? 2:22:22.560 --> 2:22:24.400 The guys that I'm talking about, That doesn't necessarily mean 2:22:24.400 --> 2:22:27.039 they're nice guys In the sense of the type of 2:22:27.080 --> 2:22:30.440 music they make. For example, we Tech who's Tech nine, 2:22:30.520 --> 2:22:34.080 is already a OG. His background is that he was 2:22:34.080 --> 2:22:36.600 a blood you know what I'm saying it. But he 2:22:36.680 --> 2:22:39.440 made his chops and he made his millions, an independent 2:22:39.680 --> 2:22:42.879 and he did his thing. Denzel Curry, he comes from 2:22:42.959 --> 2:22:45.800 Raider Klan now originally. 2:22:45.280 --> 2:22:48.000 Cool with Asap, Rocky and them. He's doing his thing. 2:22:48.320 --> 2:22:52.040 It's just these artists, they they're deciding not to go there. 2:22:52.080 --> 2:22:54.600 They're smarter, Let's put it that way. These guys are smarter. 2:22:54.720 --> 2:22:58.039 But you just answered it because you're saying it's a choice. 2:22:58.400 --> 2:23:02.680 You can't do both, realists, you cannot do both. So 2:23:02.720 --> 2:23:05.280 you're gonna have to make a choice, which we call 2:23:05.520 --> 2:23:09.760 an executive decision, which a lot of people can't make 2:23:09.800 --> 2:23:13.560 in life, executive decision making. Why because they're afraid of 2:23:13.640 --> 2:23:20.000 people not liking them. They're afraid of people criticizing them. 2:23:20.120 --> 2:23:23.920 But it's for the long run when you make executive 2:23:23.920 --> 2:23:28.080 decisions that it works out and it's not popular until 2:23:28.160 --> 2:23:31.760 later on. Then that mean when it becomes popular that 2:23:31.879 --> 2:23:35.840 you made that executive decision, everybody hated you till five 2:23:35.879 --> 2:23:36.880 years from them. 2:23:37.640 --> 2:23:43.600 Now they see your vision these young boys out here. 2:23:46.240 --> 2:23:50.480 It's a choice either you're gonna carry something or feed 2:23:50.520 --> 2:23:51.200 that or not. 2:23:51.879 --> 2:23:52.680 It's a choice. 2:23:53.320 --> 2:23:55.360 If you get out here and you know that what 2:23:55.760 --> 2:23:57.840 culture you come from, and you know that you came 2:23:57.840 --> 2:24:01.400 from the streets in a violent back, then that's all 2:24:01.480 --> 2:24:04.440 you're gonna be doing is feeding that violent background till 2:24:04.440 --> 2:24:07.600 you find a solution to your problem. And that's what 2:24:07.640 --> 2:24:10.200 you need in order for you to have longevity and 2:24:10.240 --> 2:24:13.520 be a great artist with something to contribute to the culture. 2:24:13.840 --> 2:24:17.320 Such as myself, I even had to make choices. You 2:24:17.360 --> 2:24:20.320 can't hang with the same dudes that's killing up shit 2:24:20.920 --> 2:24:22.600 and you not go to jail. 2:24:24.240 --> 2:24:24.360 More. 2:24:24.800 --> 2:24:26.039 You gotta make a choice. 2:24:26.680 --> 2:24:30.280 You guys don't think that there's also a culture because 2:24:30.320 --> 2:24:34.560 of technology and a lot of other things around technology, 2:24:35.440 --> 2:24:39.039 but a culture of artists that aren't really truly invested 2:24:39.480 --> 2:24:40.600 in hip hop culture. 2:24:41.040 --> 2:24:42.800 They just see, oh, this is. 2:24:42.840 --> 2:24:45.080 A means to getting a bag, and I do not 2:24:45.120 --> 2:24:46.640 give a fuck about hip hop. 2:24:46.840 --> 2:24:49.360 I'm not mad at them because you. 2:24:50.040 --> 2:24:54.120 I'm not mad at them because you're doing You're doing 2:24:54.160 --> 2:24:55.960 what an executive is doing. 2:24:56.600 --> 2:24:58.240 So how can I be mad at you? 2:24:58.400 --> 2:25:01.120 You can for thinking like, yeah, do I expect you 2:25:01.160 --> 2:25:05.160 to love what you do. That's asking too much of you. No, 2:25:05.680 --> 2:25:08.080 you're doing what an executive does. I don't like it. 2:25:08.120 --> 2:25:10.959 But this is a means to feed my family. This 2:25:11.000 --> 2:25:13.240 is a means to get where I gotta go. It's 2:25:13.280 --> 2:25:17.280 called stepping stones to get where you gotta go. But 2:25:17.360 --> 2:25:19.560 this is a means. I might sell drugs to own 2:25:19.600 --> 2:25:22.560 that building, but I don't want to sell drugs. I 2:25:22.560 --> 2:25:24.120 don't want to be known as a drug dealer. But 2:25:24.160 --> 2:25:27.440 I had to sell drugs to buy that building. Now 2:25:27.480 --> 2:25:31.680 I don't have to. I'm a landlord. I'm into owning buildings. 2:25:31.680 --> 2:25:37.039 So they change the perception of what's initially happening, and 2:25:37.200 --> 2:25:40.200 they're doing it more and more because technology is allowing 2:25:40.240 --> 2:25:40.920 you to do it. 2:25:41.520 --> 2:25:45.840 They're allowing you to change your perception overnight of a nigga. 2:25:49.520 --> 2:25:52.840 That's so deep. That's deep. 2:25:53.240 --> 2:25:59.119 Yeah, So you know the demand is pockets in. Rap 2:25:59.200 --> 2:26:03.840 is not a hole. Rap is a fan base of yo. 2:26:03.920 --> 2:26:06.440 You got artists that nobody knowing they got a bigger 2:26:06.480 --> 2:26:13.120 fan base than a mainstream artist. You don't understand what 2:26:13.280 --> 2:26:16.640 this game of technology has done to the music business. 2:26:17.280 --> 2:26:22.960 Is destroyed it and made. 2:26:21.959 --> 2:26:23.320 I ain't I'm gonna keep it a hundred. 2:26:23.440 --> 2:26:25.480 We used to be like, we used to look at 2:26:26.080 --> 2:26:28.440 all these little hick towns and be. 2:26:28.480 --> 2:26:30.000 Like, what's he talking about? 2:26:30.840 --> 2:26:34.160 That shit is like the rapping dokeo most But then 2:26:34.600 --> 2:26:37.920 now you're starting to see how you live in that 2:26:38.040 --> 2:26:41.080 little ass town and you got more money than us 2:26:41.120 --> 2:26:46.240 in New York niggas because and your economy is little 2:26:46.280 --> 2:26:46.920 to nothing. 2:26:47.040 --> 2:26:49.440 So do you know how you look? You look like 2:26:49.600 --> 2:26:52.600 fucking Trump. Yeah. 2:26:53.080 --> 2:26:57.560 So when things are bad, it's always a good too. 2:26:58.920 --> 2:27:02.879 It's a weird, morbid perception of what this music business 2:27:02.879 --> 2:27:03.680 has turned into. 2:27:04.040 --> 2:27:06.199 When we was little babies, we always heard. 2:27:06.000 --> 2:27:08.640 About the music business being this, that and the third 2:27:09.320 --> 2:27:12.240 and it's bad and it's until we got in it, 2:27:12.280 --> 2:27:15.360 and we say, you listen, it gave us everything. But 2:27:15.560 --> 2:27:21.840 now you see it morphed back into a self destructive thing. 2:27:21.920 --> 2:27:25.800 When we have music called self destruction. Self destruction, you 2:27:25.840 --> 2:27:28.360 know what I mean? We have made We made music, 2:27:28.480 --> 2:27:30.640 We prophesized this shit. 2:27:31.320 --> 2:27:34.320 But we cannot forget that the modern music industry was 2:27:34.360 --> 2:27:35.160 built by the mob. 2:27:35.760 --> 2:27:36.879 But we prophesized. 2:27:36.959 --> 2:27:39.840 But I'm saying that we can never forget that when 2:27:39.840 --> 2:27:40.720 we talk about. 2:27:40.600 --> 2:27:43.200 Everything was built from the mob. But it took it 2:27:43.720 --> 2:27:46.240 was a racket. It took it. It's everything was a 2:27:46.360 --> 2:27:50.200 racket till it became a business. And then once it 2:27:50.280 --> 2:27:55.240 became a business, we were ten steps behind because they 2:27:55.280 --> 2:27:58.400 made it a business. We didn't make it a business. 2:27:59.240 --> 2:28:02.039 So that's where we're coming from. When it comes to 2:28:02.080 --> 2:28:07.680 the economic of this product and how you have rock 2:28:07.720 --> 2:28:12.400 and roll being celebrated, you have other genres of music 2:28:12.520 --> 2:28:16.640 being celebrated. People are even to be celebrated. They're crossing 2:28:16.680 --> 2:28:21.160 over the country music to be celebrated. Rap is the 2:28:21.280 --> 2:28:25.480 phenomenon across all It does not celebrate. 2:28:25.000 --> 2:28:27.800 You, but it could go over there and be celebrated. 2:28:28.520 --> 2:28:32.080 Your peers celebrate you. Just keep it one hundred. Your 2:28:32.200 --> 2:28:38.359 peers celebrate you. The people who love the music celebrate you. 2:28:38.360 --> 2:28:41.760 You just said it's somebody who just they don't care. 2:28:41.760 --> 2:28:45.519 It's an ends. It's an ends to a means. It's 2:28:45.560 --> 2:28:47.480 about I'm gonna get the bag and I'm gonna do this. 2:28:48.680 --> 2:28:52.200 I always wanted to do this. I want to. 2:28:52.240 --> 2:28:56.800 I want to paint sculptures with my rap money. I 2:28:56.840 --> 2:29:01.120 want to do this with my rap money. Come on, 2:29:01.800 --> 2:29:05.360 I want to cook you food. I want to. I 2:29:05.400 --> 2:29:08.080 want you to buy my shoe. I want you to 2:29:08.120 --> 2:29:11.600 wear my time you dig I want you to wear 2:29:11.680 --> 2:29:16.800 my shirt because it's always been a you created it. 2:29:17.520 --> 2:29:19.560 Were the only ones that said, yeah, we're gonna get 2:29:19.640 --> 2:29:21.600 rich off this shit. Ill at boy, what are you 2:29:21.680 --> 2:29:25.240 talking about. I'm different from y'all. I don't do what 2:29:25.320 --> 2:29:29.640 y'all do. Y'all do what each other do. But now 2:29:30.000 --> 2:29:33.039 look how they flipped it. They said, Aha, I'm gonna 2:29:33.040 --> 2:29:35.280 make everybody sound the same, and they gonna get paid, 2:29:35.320 --> 2:29:37.200 and you're gonna sound different than not get paid. 2:29:38.680 --> 2:29:42.000 Wow, how you like that? 2:29:42.800 --> 2:29:45.400 Then you're gonna have to really go off of what 2:29:45.480 --> 2:29:49.200 you invested in over here with your clay thing and 2:29:48.600 --> 2:29:51.760 your your land and your this and there that here 2:29:51.879 --> 2:29:56.000 they put you to the tests. But God makes a 2:29:56.040 --> 2:29:59.560 way for everything. God don't make no mistakes. He put 2:29:59.640 --> 2:30:02.760 you here for a purpose. When they think we wasn't 2:30:02.760 --> 2:30:06.120 gonna make no money, we're still making money. I wouldn't 2:30:06.200 --> 2:30:09.720 think I would make money now. But guess what, it's 2:30:09.760 --> 2:30:15.400 not me. It's God's plan. It's not me no more. 2:30:16.160 --> 2:30:19.480 I'm just an old man enjoying the ride. 2:30:20.720 --> 2:30:25.440 Is it? That's it? That's it? 2:30:25.520 --> 2:30:25.960 Baby? 2:30:26.720 --> 2:30:29.520 What's that? Some titos? 2:30:29.520 --> 2:30:29.880 Oh? 2:30:29.920 --> 2:30:35.160 You're switching it up. Happy Birthday, it's the birthday week. Yes, 2:30:35.240 --> 2:30:39.200 let's go, mister anniversary. Yes, a drink Champ. That's right, 2:30:39.240 --> 2:30:43.840 goddamn anything. Champs is official. Yeah, see you a Champ. 2:30:44.040 --> 2:30:44.840 You official. 2:30:50.400 --> 2:30:52.640 As many of y'all know, Drink Champs wants to give 2:30:52.680 --> 2:30:55.800 flowers that people are here to receive them, giving flowers 2:30:55.800 --> 2:30:58.240 and celebrating our legends while they can still smell us. 2:30:58.879 --> 2:31:01.560 We have partnered with What the Flowers to create the movement. 2:31:02.080 --> 2:31:04.640 Everyone can give flowers to the legends in their life. 2:31:05.280 --> 2:31:08.160 You can now order a custom flower box because someone 2:31:08.280 --> 2:31:08.800 you want. 2:31:08.600 --> 2:31:12.039 To show appreciation to by visiting w w W dot 2:31:12.520 --> 2:31:20.360 w T flower dot com. 2:31:20.480 --> 2:31:22.720 I beat Joe, got a key to the city. I 2:31:22.760 --> 2:31:27.480 saw a flex very briefly, but I very very much love. 2:31:27.959 --> 2:31:30.200 Yeah, I love, I love. I like the man he's become. 2:31:30.360 --> 2:31:33.080 I like the man he is, and I and and 2:31:33.120 --> 2:31:36.440 when you disagree with him, do you know you can 2:31:36.480 --> 2:31:38.400 always sit down with him and talk to him. Yeah, 2:31:40.560 --> 2:31:46.400 even if y'all got super duper hectic, heavy hot beef, 2:31:48.160 --> 2:31:53.560 he can talk. He got a wheel, he can spin it. 2:31:54.520 --> 2:31:56.960 You got a wheel meaning a table. When I say 2:31:57.000 --> 2:32:01.800 a wheel, your table is your wheel, your round table. 2:32:01.840 --> 2:32:05.959 Who you got at your table, that's your wheel. So 2:32:06.560 --> 2:32:09.480 he got a wheel man, and he's he's a loving 2:32:09.560 --> 2:32:12.560 brother and who who doesn't understand him because he's kind 2:32:12.600 --> 2:32:16.360 of harsh. You gotta get to understand him because it's 2:32:16.440 --> 2:32:19.039 not what he says, it's the way he says it. 2:32:19.760 --> 2:32:25.200 So let me ask you also, when you know we 2:32:25.320 --> 2:32:28.320 keep googling you, flex went at Peak Rock? 2:32:28.680 --> 2:32:29.480 Yeah? 2:32:29.600 --> 2:32:31.680 Do you think he went at Peak Rock because of 2:32:31.720 --> 2:32:35.960 you and your relationship? I'm asking this, is it? 2:32:36.000 --> 2:32:36.200 Could? 2:32:36.320 --> 2:32:39.560 It could be a possibility, Yes, because I like the 2:32:39.600 --> 2:32:42.440 brothers are gonna take up for brothers like that, and 2:32:42.520 --> 2:32:44.879 brothers are gonna remind you who your brother is. 2:32:45.680 --> 2:32:47.240 I love you, know what I'm saying. 2:32:47.920 --> 2:32:50.520 Brothers are gonna always put it in the perspective of 2:32:51.240 --> 2:32:55.320 asking you and loving you and understanding where you're coming 2:32:55.360 --> 2:33:03.400 from before they go to war. Understand. So I looked 2:33:03.440 --> 2:33:06.920 at it like this. When I finally listened to it, 2:33:07.040 --> 2:33:11.040 I said, Yo, if I would have said that, I 2:33:11.120 --> 2:33:12.840 does sounded like a fucking hater. 2:33:14.120 --> 2:33:16.720 But if he said. 2:33:18.000 --> 2:33:23.680 That's his lane, he's a he's a that's he's not 2:33:23.840 --> 2:33:30.240 taking itself out of his zone. So I'm with forty 2:33:30.240 --> 2:33:33.480 eight laws of power. I'm a master thinker. I'm with 2:33:34.440 --> 2:33:37.240 placing the game the way it's supposed to be and 2:33:37.360 --> 2:33:38.480 playing there is. 2:33:38.440 --> 2:33:41.519 A game to be played, Okay. 2:33:41.760 --> 2:33:45.560 So however you come up with your shit is how 2:33:45.600 --> 2:33:46.920 you come up with it. 2:33:46.920 --> 2:33:51.400 It don't mean I'm a writer. It don't mean I'm 2:33:51.400 --> 2:33:51.879 a writ it. 2:33:51.920 --> 2:33:55.640 But I got a brother's nigga that love me too, 2:33:55.760 --> 2:33:57.640 like they love you, and they still love you. 2:33:58.240 --> 2:34:01.400 They just that did the same thing for me. 2:34:01.400 --> 2:34:05.760 If I interrupted his ship checking another nigga. 2:34:06.080 --> 2:34:10.240 Yo, nigga yo, nor re. Fuck you what I'm talking 2:34:10.240 --> 2:34:13.560 to this nigga? What you mean? What you mean? See 2:34:14.240 --> 2:34:17.400 what you mean? I'm talking to him? 2:34:17.959 --> 2:34:20.119 Who are you? 2:34:20.120 --> 2:34:24.240 You know what I'm saying? So I love him, man, 2:34:24.360 --> 2:34:27.600 I love Pete too. I ain't gonna lie. I don't 2:34:27.640 --> 2:34:33.040 gotta like you to love you. I love you. You know, yeah, 2:34:33.040 --> 2:34:33.560 I love you. 2:34:33.680 --> 2:34:40.560 I love you. I love what you gave me. I appreciative. 2:34:40.800 --> 2:34:43.080 I think that's the most important thing you can be, 2:34:43.879 --> 2:34:47.600 is appreciative to what somebody give you from their heart 2:34:48.280 --> 2:34:51.680 and from their creativity and their soul because they wanted 2:34:51.720 --> 2:34:52.680 to win like you. 2:34:53.240 --> 2:34:56.640 So I appreciate that, you know, what I'm saying. 2:34:56.680 --> 2:35:00.000 So I'll always give him as props for we made 2:35:00.920 --> 2:35:03.680 I didn't make it, you didn't make it. We can 2:35:03.879 --> 2:35:07.480 argue like that, but it's we, But it's we. We 2:35:07.560 --> 2:35:11.280 don't have to acknowledge it all the time in the argument. 2:35:11.879 --> 2:35:14.360 It's fire, but it's we. That's fire. 2:35:14.560 --> 2:35:17.320 You know what I mean without acknowledgment. You know what 2:35:17.360 --> 2:35:17.760 I'm saying. 2:35:17.920 --> 2:35:25.720 That's fire. That's fine, man. I ain't gonna see y'all. 2:35:25.800 --> 2:35:26.000 Man. 2:35:28.640 --> 2:35:33.720 I'm so proud of your growth. I'm so proud of 2:35:33.760 --> 2:35:36.800 how you you take life. 2:35:37.959 --> 2:35:42.000 Life is meant to be lived. You could have one 2:35:42.080 --> 2:35:46.000 dollar and a million dollars and that. I'm tired of 2:35:46.000 --> 2:35:51.000 seeing poor people be happy and I'm not happy. I'm 2:35:51.040 --> 2:35:55.240 tired of it. I ain't catch that part. I'm tired 2:35:55.280 --> 2:35:59.320 of seeing poor people happy with what they have, what 2:35:59.520 --> 2:36:03.360 they don't expect, nothing and they happy. Why can't you 2:36:03.480 --> 2:36:10.920 be happy? Why can't you with simple things? You've accomplished things. 2:36:11.360 --> 2:36:16.160 Don't think that everything is about you. It's about what 2:36:16.240 --> 2:36:21.360 you have accomplished, what you have earned, and what you're 2:36:21.520 --> 2:36:25.280 doing with it. That says more volumes than what you 2:36:25.360 --> 2:36:26.480 are talking about. 2:36:27.360 --> 2:36:30.200 You want people to know about you. It ain't you. 2:36:30.360 --> 2:36:33.200 I'm just a vessel. I'm just a vessel now, man. 2:36:33.200 --> 2:36:36.040 It ain't about me no more. It's about my higher power. 2:36:36.840 --> 2:36:39.760 It's about my God. You know what I'm saying. But 2:36:39.840 --> 2:36:41.880 it ain't in the church. It's about what I do 2:36:41.959 --> 2:36:44.280 every day. You know what I'm saying, Because I know 2:36:44.440 --> 2:36:47.360 for sure I ain't get all this shit with my 2:36:47.480 --> 2:36:53.000 smart somebody had to give it to me. And that's 2:36:53.000 --> 2:36:56.600 what people are feeling to real acknowledge somebody had to 2:36:56.640 --> 2:36:59.480 give it to them. Did you appreciate it? Did you 2:36:59.520 --> 2:37:02.520 do the right thing with it? You know what I'm saying. 2:37:02.600 --> 2:37:06.959 But somebody had to give bless you. It's called blessings 2:37:07.000 --> 2:37:13.040 like nobody thought drink champs bang noorri. 2:37:13.800 --> 2:37:14.480 He wasn't. 2:37:15.040 --> 2:37:19.120 He wasn't talking to you like that. He wasn't he 2:37:19.200 --> 2:37:21.040 want He was like what what? 2:37:21.040 --> 2:37:22.480 What? Love it? 2:37:24.120 --> 2:37:28.439 He wasn't. Well, let me hear what you gotta say. 2:37:29.160 --> 2:37:32.920 So you see that evolution of a man growing and 2:37:32.959 --> 2:37:38.480 blossoming and his wife water and the plant and allowing 2:37:38.600 --> 2:37:41.439 him to be have a wider territory. 2:37:42.600 --> 2:37:43.080 You dig. 2:37:44.080 --> 2:37:50.480 Yeah, niggas don't accomplish that ship with gangs. Niggas don't 2:37:50.480 --> 2:37:53.240 accomplish that ship with the best five on the block. 2:37:55.080 --> 2:37:57.560 It takes a strong woman to make a strong man. 2:37:57.760 --> 2:38:07.360 It takes that. So all you need, man, it's a 2:38:07.400 --> 2:38:12.000 great partner. That's what made my music right, a great partner. 2:38:12.440 --> 2:38:15.000 So why wouldn't you take that same formula and put 2:38:15.040 --> 2:38:17.680 it into real life and say, Yo, cool, I need 2:38:17.680 --> 2:38:18.600 a great partner. 2:38:19.640 --> 2:38:20.840 Shouldn't that be my goal? 2:38:20.959 --> 2:38:21.279 Now? 2:38:21.879 --> 2:38:22.680 Great partner? 2:38:23.920 --> 2:38:27.400 Nurture it, water it, make sure the soil right, make 2:38:27.440 --> 2:38:30.480 sure she happy. Ultimately, when she happy, I could do 2:38:30.520 --> 2:38:33.840 a whole lot more. Right, I could do a whole 2:38:33.879 --> 2:38:36.440 lot more when she happy, you know what I'm saying. 2:38:36.640 --> 2:38:39.240 And I could be around a whole lot more, even 2:38:39.240 --> 2:38:42.440 the shit I'm not supposed to be around, because she 2:38:42.520 --> 2:38:46.640 give me that grace, She give me that position. And 2:38:46.720 --> 2:38:49.200 do believe I'm like a running back. I take all 2:38:49.440 --> 2:38:50.439 of the yards. 2:38:52.600 --> 2:38:56.560 This guy's a sports guy. Question because I'm gonna be 2:38:56.640 --> 2:38:57.240 honest with you. 2:38:58.040 --> 2:38:59.920 Did you watch him in comment on here? 2:39:00.320 --> 2:39:00.600 I did? 2:39:00.680 --> 2:39:03.920 Yes, yes, And he seemed very open to you guys 2:39:03.959 --> 2:39:05.600 doing stuff I felt. 2:39:05.879 --> 2:39:09.440 What do you think see now that I'm on the platform, Yes, 2:39:09.640 --> 2:39:13.040 I see how easy it is to be nice. You 2:39:13.080 --> 2:39:17.360 know what I'm saying I can see how easy it 2:39:17.440 --> 2:39:19.960 is to be nor makes it so like, you know 2:39:19.959 --> 2:39:23.360 what I mean, he trust me. He just he puts 2:39:23.400 --> 2:39:26.120 it right there and you just you just eat it up, 2:39:26.160 --> 2:39:29.160 you know what I mean. So I wasn't planning to 2:39:29.240 --> 2:39:33.960 say ship, but here you could just flow, you know 2:39:34.000 --> 2:39:36.520 what I mean, You could just flow and you can drink. 2:39:36.600 --> 2:39:41.560 Champs is like, yeah, you're having drinks. Yeah, Because I 2:39:41.600 --> 2:39:45.640 think when artists get here sometimes in their fear of 2:39:46.680 --> 2:39:52.160 being around you guys and being asked questions, they feel 2:39:52.240 --> 2:39:55.720 vulnerable of drinking, you know, of smoking. 2:39:56.800 --> 2:39:58.680 Know what I mean, I'm gonna be honest. 2:39:58.400 --> 2:40:03.400 With you, And that was my fear initially to say, well, 2:40:04.080 --> 2:40:05.520 maybe we can do it next year. 2:40:05.760 --> 2:40:10.360 But no, I said, you know what, I think, I'm 2:40:10.360 --> 2:40:10.879 gonna be me. 2:40:11.720 --> 2:40:16.720 Yes, and I'm being me, And to restrict myself and 2:40:16.840 --> 2:40:20.080 think about what he's saying would not be given to me. 2:40:20.760 --> 2:40:24.800 He would only be given them my representative, you know 2:40:24.800 --> 2:40:29.600 what I mean. So I think in this platform of 2:40:29.840 --> 2:40:34.280 who you are and really who you are, because you're 2:40:34.320 --> 2:40:38.280 introducing yourself to people who don't really don't know you, 2:40:38.400 --> 2:40:40.800 people who really don't fuck with you, people who really 2:40:40.800 --> 2:40:45.120 don't who are just being put on to you or 2:40:45.200 --> 2:40:47.520 reminded of you and didn't know. 2:40:47.879 --> 2:40:48.520 Hey, that's you. 2:40:50.120 --> 2:40:53.440 Now you can get it on a platform where they 2:40:53.480 --> 2:40:56.560 can understand it, and they give you a platform to 2:40:56.800 --> 2:40:59.320 express yourself the way you want to express it. 2:41:00.080 --> 2:41:00.879 And that was here. 2:41:01.040 --> 2:41:04.440 I didn't I didn't have any expectations to pick this up. 2:41:04.560 --> 2:41:10.160 You know, no moreing me get one of. 2:41:10.080 --> 2:41:13.120 Those problem hold on, hold on, I'm gonna give you 2:41:13.200 --> 2:41:14.960 my last one with hash. 2:41:15.080 --> 2:41:17.480 This is European hass as. If you want you. 2:41:17.720 --> 2:41:19.959 Want me to talk, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 2:41:20.120 --> 2:41:20.800 listen listen. 2:41:20.959 --> 2:41:23.800 But by the way it looks, it was gonna tell 2:41:23.840 --> 2:41:24.560 me it looks big. 2:41:24.800 --> 2:41:27.440 Listen to me. But you set out eighty joints, but 2:41:27.480 --> 2:41:28.520 this has got no hash. 2:41:28.920 --> 2:41:31.600 Listen to me, see how smooth. I would like to 2:41:31.640 --> 2:41:33.119 give you my last but it's. 2:41:32.959 --> 2:41:33.840 Gonna suck you up. 2:41:34.360 --> 2:41:39.959 Okay, but this is my last one hash europe. 2:41:40.080 --> 2:41:40.600 Excuse me? 2:41:41.120 --> 2:41:43.440 What is making a good sale for that show? No, no, no, 2:41:43.400 --> 2:41:45.960 but I'm gonna give it to you. It's gonna see. 2:41:47.040 --> 2:41:51.360 Let me just tell you something, man, go ahead. I 2:41:51.480 --> 2:41:54.320 said this whole time. We changed the rap game, and 2:41:54.440 --> 2:41:58.000 let me just say something and you know. I know 2:41:58.080 --> 2:42:01.680 you're gonna say something stupid, but you changed my life 2:42:02.440 --> 2:42:02.920 as well. 2:42:03.920 --> 2:42:04.280 Thank you. 2:42:04.360 --> 2:42:07.640 I heard you, and I wanted to be EMC. I 2:42:07.720 --> 2:42:10.200 wanted to be not only an MC, I wanted to 2:42:10.280 --> 2:42:15.440 be a better EMC. And I felt like, you know, 2:42:17.040 --> 2:42:22.640 you helped nas Nas help me. I helped I mean, no, 2:42:22.680 --> 2:42:25.240 excuse me, you helped nas Nas help more deep, more 2:42:25.360 --> 2:42:25.880 deep help me. 2:42:26.320 --> 2:42:28.800 And I feel like I owe you. 2:42:29.400 --> 2:42:33.240 So I held this blunt because I knew he was 2:42:33.320 --> 2:42:34.800 going to ask, but this is this is it. 2:42:35.200 --> 2:42:38.879 He rolled it in nineteen ninety eight and he held 2:42:38.879 --> 2:42:39.200 it for you. 2:42:39.280 --> 2:42:44.240 By the way, why do I feel like Krris wont 2:42:45.040 --> 2:42:46.039 don't really feel like. 2:42:46.879 --> 2:42:49.800 Just because I'm handing you the scrolls of hip hop? 2:42:50.240 --> 2:42:56.840 Please scrolls scrolls. But see how smooth I swear to you, man, 2:42:58.160 --> 2:43:01.920 I really really we were so excited, all of the 2:43:02.040 --> 2:43:09.039 drink Champs crew right here, we were so excited. And 2:43:09.160 --> 2:43:11.960 by the way, by the way, you know, we make 2:43:12.040 --> 2:43:14.720 bets of like what time the artist is gonna come, 2:43:15.400 --> 2:43:18.480 and like who's going to be late or not, And 2:43:18.560 --> 2:43:23.320 I immediately said, ms diego, it's going to be no, no, no, no. 2:43:23.360 --> 2:43:24.760 That that's some good ship. 2:43:25.840 --> 2:43:26.359 That's why. 2:43:28.000 --> 2:43:31.320 You might be on your flip ship. If I could 2:43:31.320 --> 2:43:38.960 bring this whole ship, so we actually who would produce 2:43:41.400 --> 2:43:43.480 the the Holy Grail? 2:43:43.959 --> 2:43:45.760 Right now? 2:43:45.800 --> 2:43:49.320 Who would you produce the Holy Grail? If God came 2:43:49.360 --> 2:43:55.320 to you said produce this record, You're not on it. 2:43:56.200 --> 2:43:59.960 Quincy Jones, Yeah, Christy Jones, Damn, I like that, Quincy Jones. 2:44:03.080 --> 2:44:05.760 I would do another record of Lenny Kravitz and Jay 2:44:05.840 --> 2:44:06.800 z mm hmm. 2:44:07.640 --> 2:44:12.240 This motherfucker I don't like, like like I think I 2:44:12.320 --> 2:44:14.800 know him, and then he just soole some other ship 2:44:14.920 --> 2:44:19.480 out this Lenny one of that, and who's producing, Lenny 2:44:19.520 --> 2:44:20.720 Cravis producing. 2:44:20.879 --> 2:44:24.440 Whoever want to produce it, whoever's going, whoever's going? Who 2:44:24.480 --> 2:44:25.560 would you? Who I want? 2:44:26.840 --> 2:44:34.119 I would pick A. I would pick either. I would 2:44:34.120 --> 2:44:40.640 pick either R Kelly or I would pick either R 2:44:40.760 --> 2:44:45.640 Kelly or I was like, I like that or l 2:44:45.680 --> 2:44:47.240 A and babyface. 2:44:50.400 --> 2:44:53.840 Lenny Cravis and Jay Z is see that and I can. 2:44:54.000 --> 2:44:56.440 I'm gonna tell they dreads might look the same, you 2:44:56.440 --> 2:44:56.880 know what I'm saying? 2:44:57.200 --> 2:44:58.480 Very R and B with that production. 2:44:59.440 --> 2:45:03.960 Yeah, because I wanted, I wanted to wear it could 2:45:04.000 --> 2:45:09.199 be a tweener. I don't need definitive, I need I need. 2:45:10.120 --> 2:45:14.879 I need range, I need everywhere. I don't need here, 2:45:15.879 --> 2:45:16.800 I need everywhere. 2:45:17.000 --> 2:45:17.800 You're out of control. 2:45:23.920 --> 2:45:27.039 This is what I actually wanted to know when you 2:45:27.080 --> 2:45:30.080 guys did these records, right, how much did you tour 2:45:30.080 --> 2:45:34.080 outside of the country internationally a lot? What were the 2:45:34.520 --> 2:45:38.600 countries that that you remember that that really you enjoyed? 2:45:38.800 --> 2:45:39.520 All of zuo? 2:45:41.640 --> 2:45:45.080 Italy is my favorite, really, yeah, because I could see 2:45:45.120 --> 2:45:47.440 myself living there, so I could. 2:45:47.240 --> 2:45:49.040 See, you know, they're selling cribs for like a dollar 2:45:49.080 --> 2:45:49.320 over ye. 2:45:49.440 --> 2:45:52.480 I could see myself living there and have my own community, right, 2:45:52.920 --> 2:46:02.400 you know, so, and I would pick I like London 2:46:02.520 --> 2:46:08.160 is a nice five. I like Japan is the ultimate. 2:46:09.400 --> 2:46:13.480 Japan is out of this world. You have to be 2:46:13.800 --> 2:46:18.160 back to normal after you leave Japan. When I come 2:46:18.200 --> 2:46:21.800 back to Japan, American, my family they don't like the 2:46:21.800 --> 2:46:22.280 way I love. 2:46:24.400 --> 2:46:28.720 They say I'm too skinny. 2:46:27.000 --> 2:46:33.600 Because I'm not eating I'm eating good where their nutrition 2:46:34.120 --> 2:46:39.840 is one hundred. I'm eating good, so I don't have 2:46:40.040 --> 2:46:44.279 fat on me, right, So when I come back from Japan, 2:46:44.400 --> 2:46:48.000 I don't have any fat on me, and then they're 2:46:48.080 --> 2:46:51.199 pinching me. The women are pinching to see how many 2:46:51.240 --> 2:46:55.000 inches I'm losing. So now I'm losing and losing. When 2:46:55.000 --> 2:46:58.560 I come back. My grandmother's mortified because she's one of 2:46:58.600 --> 2:47:03.120 those grandmothers to say, oh you're not eating, Oh you 2:47:03.200 --> 2:47:07.680 look too skinny, But that's really healthy in this day 2:47:07.720 --> 2:47:08.160 and time. 2:47:08.640 --> 2:47:11.800 That's healthy. So Japan. 2:47:12.600 --> 2:47:14.560 So you see, I bet you the seeds you guys 2:47:14.560 --> 2:47:19.480 sold in those early shows. Imagine what would happen if 2:47:19.480 --> 2:47:20.200 you guys were to. 2:47:20.160 --> 2:47:20.760 Do it again. 2:47:21.680 --> 2:47:24.080 If we did it again, it would be a surreal 2:47:24.280 --> 2:47:28.720 because we're not around each other. It would be like 2:47:28.800 --> 2:47:32.039 a new thing. Everything would be brand new. 2:47:32.040 --> 2:47:33.600 And a good word. 2:47:33.640 --> 2:47:35.160 The best album is nineteen eighty. 2:47:34.959 --> 2:47:39.000 One, right, the first album was nineteen ninety one, nineteen one? 2:47:39.080 --> 2:47:41.360 How many years is that for anybody smart here? 2:47:42.800 --> 2:47:47.920 Thirty three? Thirty yeah, thirty three? Yeah, oh hpiece is 2:47:47.959 --> 2:47:49.720 thirty and ninety three, So. 2:47:49.720 --> 2:47:56.120 Yeah, what would my step son was born first, my. 2:47:56.800 --> 2:48:04.400 Second son was born in nineteen ninety one. What would 2:48:04.440 --> 2:48:07.640 I like to see that reunion? I think I'm telling 2:48:07.680 --> 2:48:08.960 you the massive appeal strategy. 2:48:10.360 --> 2:48:12.279 Yeah, I'm gonna sit this. 2:48:12.360 --> 2:48:16.040 Make me documentary about this, and then do the album documentary. 2:48:16.440 --> 2:48:19.800 Album. You need to do a documentary about this fucking. 2:48:19.560 --> 2:48:24.480 Joint you gave me yes documentary you going around the 2:48:24.520 --> 2:48:28.039 queens Aws and. 2:48:28.640 --> 2:48:33.000 I gotta drink water to gas you know, Na, Man, 2:48:33.120 --> 2:48:35.720 I just want to personally thank you, man. 2:48:37.080 --> 2:48:41.760 For your contribution to hip hop, contribution to what you're doing, 2:48:42.280 --> 2:48:45.720 continue to do. I'm gonna be honest with you. Uh 2:48:45.959 --> 2:48:48.400 you know, I said nas earlier and you know, you know, 2:48:48.480 --> 2:48:50.760 but if it wasn't for you, it wouldn't be no me. 2:48:51.360 --> 2:48:55.280 Like it's like, you know, I'm inspired by you and 2:48:55.360 --> 2:49:00.039 what you guys did and what you did, and I 2:49:00.080 --> 2:49:02.760 love I love the fact that I was so honored 2:49:03.440 --> 2:49:06.000 and I'm so happy to give you your flowers face 2:49:06.000 --> 2:49:08.440 to face man and man because I want you to 2:49:08.520 --> 2:49:12.600 know how important you are to hip hop, how important 2:49:12.640 --> 2:49:15.359 you are to us, how important you are to the community, 2:49:15.600 --> 2:49:20.119 how you're important you are to the fucking culture. Thank you, Yes, 2:49:23.760 --> 2:49:28.040 And I was I was like so happy, like man, 2:49:29.480 --> 2:49:33.920 me us we got group chatting, We gotta yeah, we 2:49:34.000 --> 2:49:35.680 gotta go, yeah feeling. 2:49:37.040 --> 2:49:37.440 Somewhere. 2:49:37.760 --> 2:49:45.120 Yeh know, that's that's that's it. But yeah, thank you, 2:49:45.160 --> 2:49:48.040 my man, Like, thank you, bro, thank you for what 2:49:48.120 --> 2:49:53.280 you did, because in a lot of ways, if you 2:49:54.160 --> 2:49:57.800 didn't do what you did, drink chance wouldn't exist because 2:49:57.840 --> 2:50:00.600 we're all fans of you, all. 2:50:01.920 --> 2:50:07.160 People that follow you, We're all people that you got 2:50:07.160 --> 2:50:16.520 me feeling like Karres one see saying see you that you. 2:50:18.879 --> 2:50:20.560 Yo know you that guy. 2:50:20.600 --> 2:50:24.480 I went around car Ris one right, I was around 2:50:24.560 --> 2:50:28.960 kress one man, and I just said, listen, don't talk 2:50:29.000 --> 2:50:32.640 to me, just let me look at you. Just let 2:50:32.680 --> 2:50:37.200 me feel what you are first, don't say nothing. And 2:50:37.280 --> 2:50:42.320 he and we just stared at each other like mm hmm. 2:50:42.480 --> 2:50:49.680 So you're the blast mask, I said, God, damn you 2:50:49.800 --> 2:50:50.640 the blast mask. 2:50:51.440 --> 2:50:55.560 Care listen. I grew up in the right era. 2:50:55.959 --> 2:50:59.880 I know. I know these young boys, they're young I love. 2:51:01.400 --> 2:51:03.200 But I was meant to be an old man because 2:51:03.200 --> 2:51:06.400 I seen a lot more. I seen what I had 2:51:06.440 --> 2:51:10.800 to see in those days, because you would have never 2:51:10.920 --> 2:51:14.880 acknowledged it because you wasn't born right you did. Y'all 2:51:15.000 --> 2:51:20.120 was born. Y'all was born when it was over, when 2:51:20.160 --> 2:51:22.720 I was in power. So I don't count me. I 2:51:22.800 --> 2:51:26.800 count the ones before me because they are. They were 2:51:27.000 --> 2:51:31.200 so charismatic and beautiful and enlightening. 2:51:31.720 --> 2:51:32.760 That's why I told you. 2:51:32.959 --> 2:51:38.000 Even some of the worst motherfuckers inspired me. Bad evil 2:51:38.120 --> 2:51:43.240 motherfuckers inspired me, not to be evil and not to 2:51:43.240 --> 2:51:46.920 be them. And they told me you could be better 2:51:46.959 --> 2:51:52.360 than me. Dude, be you. You is better than me. 2:51:54.040 --> 2:51:57.040 And I loved them for that fire. These are niggas 2:51:57.040 --> 2:52:04.320 who they kill at will fuck caller duty. These niggas 2:52:04.760 --> 2:52:06.840 was the duty, all. 2:52:06.800 --> 2:52:08.959 Right, These niggas with the duty. 2:52:09.320 --> 2:52:16.640 Right. You know, I'm older than you. Just know what 2:52:16.720 --> 2:52:20.680 that ship is about, right Because them boys is, yeah, 2:52:20.720 --> 2:52:23.840 they're not here, but they need their flowers too because 2:52:24.320 --> 2:52:26.400 they got us to where we need to be. 2:52:26.560 --> 2:52:29.400 How you're gonna beat Kane and rock Him? How you 2:52:29.520 --> 2:52:33.520 gonna beat Fat Boys and Public Enemy? How you gonna 2:52:33.520 --> 2:52:36.400 beat run DMC and ll cool J if you ain't 2:52:36.400 --> 2:52:37.600 coming with nothing different? 2:52:38.280 --> 2:52:41.600 How you gonna beat Houdini? Nigga? You can't. 2:52:42.680 --> 2:52:50.080 You can't come on them boys? Was come on, milk 2:52:50.160 --> 2:52:56.119 d come on every time he do what yo? 2:52:56.200 --> 2:52:56.840 Come on man? 2:52:57.480 --> 2:52:59.920 That's why we got what we got, That's why we 2:53:00.080 --> 2:53:00.920 live where we live. 2:53:01.520 --> 2:53:04.120 So how would you end if you if it was 2:53:04.240 --> 2:53:08.440 all up to you and Mecca and a soul brother? 2:53:08.480 --> 2:53:11.360 How would you end that legacy? If you can, if 2:53:11.360 --> 2:53:12.560 it's up to you. 2:53:12.600 --> 2:53:14.800 See, that's the beautiful part of it is that I 2:53:14.800 --> 2:53:17.520 couldn't tell you how we we're in. That's a great you, 2:53:17.600 --> 2:53:21.360 dig I couldn't tell you how we're in because it's not. 2:53:21.560 --> 2:53:27.160 It's so, it's so like it's it's in space, and. 2:53:27.440 --> 2:53:31.040 I gotta come and pull it out of space somewhere, 2:53:31.440 --> 2:53:33.320 and then the nigga gotta like me too. 2:53:34.320 --> 2:53:41.840 I think. Keep going. It was written, and it was 2:53:41.920 --> 2:53:46.400 written to be liked. We gotta be respected, because I 2:53:46.480 --> 2:53:47.440 keep hearing you say that. 2:53:47.480 --> 2:53:51.879 I keep hearing you say, and for lack of a 2:53:51.920 --> 2:53:54.640 better term, I keep hearing you say you ain't never 2:53:54.680 --> 2:53:56.000 had to like me right to. 2:53:56.080 --> 2:54:00.600 Him and to everybody, to everybody, not just here, okay, 2:54:00.640 --> 2:54:02.200 because we don't want to isolate him. 2:54:04.600 --> 2:54:11.400 This is the format. This is how it is with everybody. 2:54:11.520 --> 2:54:12.279 When you want. 2:54:12.160 --> 2:54:16.640 Respect, you don't gotta like me, Just respect me. Nigga, 2:54:16.640 --> 2:54:18.080 don't gotta like my shit. 2:54:18.600 --> 2:54:18.879 I'm not. 2:54:19.280 --> 2:54:21.920 I didn't buy the shirt for you to like. I 2:54:22.000 --> 2:54:24.680 bought the shirt because I like it. But you're gonna 2:54:24.720 --> 2:54:27.200 respect it because you ain't gonna take it from me. 2:54:28.440 --> 2:54:31.240 That's it. That's it. It's nothing, it's. 2:54:31.120 --> 2:54:34.640 Nothing complicated, it ain't it ain't rocket science. 2:54:35.160 --> 2:54:37.000 It's just where you're from. 2:54:38.000 --> 2:54:41.600 Because I know where I'm from, and I go all 2:54:41.640 --> 2:54:44.240 over the place, and I know how to conduct myself. 2:54:44.560 --> 2:54:46.680 We don't got to fake it to make it. We 2:54:46.840 --> 2:54:52.920 made it in life. We're talking about making a record 2:54:53.080 --> 2:54:55.520 in the music business, but I made it in life. 2:54:56.680 --> 2:54:59.480 Come on, you know that I made it in life. 2:54:59.560 --> 2:55:08.119 Look this one hundred and fifty dollars dollars ship. Come on, yeah, I. 2:55:08.080 --> 2:55:14.200 Got all type of diamonds. Hash that diamonds hash that 2:55:14.240 --> 2:55:15.720 should tastes like Jesus. Say. 2:55:15.879 --> 2:55:20.240 Listen, I didn't know Jesus had a person. Wow, I 2:55:20.280 --> 2:55:24.000 mean that. I don't even think I ever said that. That'symmetric. 2:55:24.959 --> 2:55:25.840 I never said that. 2:55:26.000 --> 2:55:27.960 I'm sorry, See, I'm a found I never said that. 2:55:28.600 --> 2:55:29.520 I mean I never said that. 2:55:29.520 --> 2:55:29.920 I said it. 2:55:29.959 --> 2:55:30.320 I said that. 2:55:30.879 --> 2:55:39.160 Listen my spirituality and how this night has went. I've 2:55:39.240 --> 2:55:44.039 learned something, you know, I've learned something. Okay, what we 2:55:44.120 --> 2:55:52.760 love that there's levels to this, you know. And Noriega 2:55:52.840 --> 2:55:56.720 is real. Yes, I mean, Noriega is real, man, Thank 2:55:56.720 --> 2:55:58.160 you so much. Norriega is real. 2:55:58.280 --> 2:56:03.879 What But today I'm gonna be honest with you. Me 2:56:04.040 --> 2:56:08.080 and E f M, my partner, We are so happy 2:56:08.120 --> 2:56:11.960 to have you here because there was a rumor. Now, 2:56:12.520 --> 2:56:15.560 let let's get this out there about. 2:56:15.320 --> 2:56:16.879 It, y'all. 2:56:16.920 --> 2:56:19.640 To when he came in the room, were close. I 2:56:19.800 --> 2:56:24.160 was so mad. Were close. I was so mad because 2:56:24.160 --> 2:56:28.880 they was like yo oh that that CEO wasn't wasn't 2:56:29.000 --> 2:56:29.760 allowed on. 2:56:29.800 --> 2:56:30.920 It was like a conspiracy. 2:56:31.360 --> 2:56:34.080 And I thought it was your fans because your fans 2:56:34.160 --> 2:56:36.280 is very relentless niggas like they the. 2:56:36.879 --> 2:56:41.119 Niggas as they should be. But I heard that before. 2:56:41.560 --> 2:56:44.160 Your fans who started this room now, but they shouldn't 2:56:44.160 --> 2:56:47.160 start that. But by the way, I've respected the room. 2:56:47.480 --> 2:56:48.199 That's what I'm saying. 2:56:48.280 --> 2:56:51.320 It was like just oh ship because because Pete came 2:56:51.360 --> 2:56:55.680 on here twice and your fans was on our ass. 2:56:55.879 --> 2:56:59.160 I'm telling pause, oh funk. 2:56:59.680 --> 2:57:04.640 You were like no, pause pause, so seek. 2:57:05.240 --> 2:57:08.800 I'm telling you, your fans is. 2:57:10.480 --> 2:57:14.840 On foul. But it was like, what what the fuck 2:57:14.959 --> 2:57:17.840 is going on? They want everything? Even I like that 2:57:17.920 --> 2:57:21.280 they fill in my love when my love isn't warranted 2:57:21.480 --> 2:57:24.600 or welcome, they fill it in. You're gonna love you 2:57:24.680 --> 2:57:28.080 know that though. I know because that's how I learned 2:57:28.160 --> 2:57:32.200 to say. Listen, you're gonna respect Peter. You're gonna respect 2:57:32.200 --> 2:57:35.760 what he did for you. You're gonna respect what y'all did together, 2:57:36.360 --> 2:57:39.640 and you're gonna love it, you understand, And then you're 2:57:39.640 --> 2:57:42.080 gonna go about your business. And you got your business. 2:57:42.440 --> 2:57:44.959 Nobody's nobody's stopping that. 2:57:44.959 --> 2:57:45.520 That's fine. 2:57:46.240 --> 2:57:50.200 But when it's time you go back and you go 2:57:50.320 --> 2:57:53.200 see him, you don't have to be your brother. You 2:57:53.200 --> 2:57:55.400 don't have to put that expectation on him. You don't 2:57:55.400 --> 2:57:56.880 have to be your friend. You don't have to put 2:57:56.879 --> 2:58:01.160 that expectation on him, but you better respect him. You 2:58:01.280 --> 2:58:05.160 better be serious about your business so you could respect 2:58:05.200 --> 2:58:06.720 you and then. 2:58:09.440 --> 2:58:10.520 Do it for the fans. 2:58:10.800 --> 2:58:14.359 It's not about your bitch ass, it's about the fans. 2:58:14.680 --> 2:58:18.560 Corey, It's about the fans. He's who he is. 2:58:18.959 --> 2:58:25.160 Yourself, Yeah, okay, yeah, because you could talk about everybody 2:58:25.200 --> 2:58:28.280 on this platform. But then you gotta hold yourself accountable too. 2:58:29.640 --> 2:58:32.240 You know what I'm saying. You gotta look at yourself too. 2:58:32.520 --> 2:58:34.560 When you don't look at yourself in the mirror, that's 2:58:34.560 --> 2:58:39.800 a that's a conversation all in itself, right, that's yeah. 2:58:39.840 --> 2:58:44.040 So you have to be honest, and when you're honest 2:58:44.320 --> 2:58:50.680 with yourself, anything is possible. For a solution. I think 2:58:50.800 --> 2:58:55.720 solution based. I think it I vision it, I live it. 2:58:56.440 --> 2:59:00.520 Sometimes I sit in one place for a week, but 2:59:00.560 --> 2:59:02.120 I'm I'm thinking of a solution. 2:59:04.520 --> 2:59:05.200 I'm not. I'm not. 2:59:05.320 --> 2:59:09.560 I'm thinking of a solution. Fix and then I'm here 2:59:09.600 --> 2:59:13.080 to fix it. You ain't moving. And sometimes you could 2:59:13.120 --> 2:59:16.240 put it on the back burner. It ain't back burners ship. 2:59:17.160 --> 2:59:22.080 It's about yeah, fix it, because then it'll fix you. 2:59:24.840 --> 2:59:27.600 Heard, yes? Yeah? 2:59:27.720 --> 2:59:30.320 Can I tell you my fantastic idea in my mind? 2:59:30.840 --> 2:59:34.360 My dream, my story is so bad. Let's go that 2:59:34.520 --> 2:59:37.680 both you and Pete Rock have grown to a place. 2:59:39.440 --> 2:59:42.600 We're coming together makes the best music that you would 2:59:42.600 --> 2:59:46.600 have ever possibly made. And like I already said before, 2:59:46.600 --> 2:59:49.600 with the business strategy, Massive Field or a company like 2:59:49.680 --> 2:59:55.160 mass a Field comes in because does the documentary document 2:59:55.280 --> 2:59:59.040 produces the album and tours it around the world, and 2:59:59.080 --> 3:00:02.760 it's a phenomena and it's and it changes. 3:00:03.680 --> 3:00:05.440 It does what this does today? 3:00:06.360 --> 3:00:08.560 Massa Bill just signed our soul as well, right. 3:00:09.040 --> 3:00:11.800 I didn't know that, believe so yes, So. 3:00:13.080 --> 3:00:16.720 If that happened, I would just put my hat on's 3:00:16.720 --> 3:00:19.040 say yeah. 3:00:18.120 --> 3:00:18.800 Let's do it. 3:00:19.879 --> 3:00:29.760 We need making the Soul brothers together. I'm gonna be 3:00:29.800 --> 3:00:30.320 on the plane. 3:00:30.400 --> 3:00:33.640 Nice You're don't be flying before the plane flies. 3:00:34.080 --> 3:00:35.680 That's what you want, That's what I want. 3:00:36.480 --> 3:00:41.039 And see, let me just speak on behalf of hip 3:00:41.080 --> 3:00:43.920 hop again. I know I said to you earlier, but 3:00:43.920 --> 3:00:45.440 I'm gonna say it to you again because to me, 3:00:45.640 --> 3:00:47.600 that must to me, and it means that must of 3:00:47.640 --> 3:00:49.440 this room, and it means much of the hip hop. 3:00:50.160 --> 3:00:52.959 Thank you again, man, thank you like thank you, thank 3:00:53.000 --> 3:00:53.320 you for. 3:00:55.400 --> 3:00:58.400 You know, changing the game, thank you for making the 3:00:58.480 --> 3:01:01.320 game what it's supposed to be. Thank you for you know, 3:01:01.760 --> 3:01:05.200 continuing to do your motherfucking thing, and thank you for 3:01:05.280 --> 3:01:13.200 being motherfucking modest like and. 3:01:10.520 --> 3:01:12.879 And I can't lie to you like you do. 3:01:15.440 --> 3:01:18.520 You and Pete, I don't ever really want to know 3:01:19.879 --> 3:01:21.440 really what it is. 3:01:21.480 --> 3:01:23.440 If it is something, I told you what it is 3:01:23.520 --> 3:01:25.080 and we talked about all of it. 3:01:25.360 --> 3:01:28.080 I told you what it is. Okay, there's two men 3:01:29.840 --> 3:01:32.480 that are doing business and got to do business a 3:01:32.520 --> 3:01:35.000 certain way. Alls we gotta do is be in the 3:01:35.080 --> 3:01:38.560 same room. And that's it, right, you understand. But I 3:01:38.680 --> 3:01:41.760 like the space he's in. I like what he's doing. 3:01:42.200 --> 3:01:43.280 I love that you say that. 3:01:43.400 --> 3:01:44.080 I like that. 3:01:44.800 --> 3:01:47.840 I don't want him in a dark space coming back 3:01:47.879 --> 3:01:51.400 to me, thinking he's settling. I want him at the 3:01:51.440 --> 3:01:54.280 top of his shit. I want him with new money. 3:01:54.920 --> 3:01:57.920 I want him with all the vision in the world 3:01:57.920 --> 3:02:02.160 to say I bought new glasses for you, baby. Everything 3:02:02.160 --> 3:02:06.480 you guys do, because I know I need inspiration too, 3:02:07.000 --> 3:02:08.879 because I don't know you and you don't know me 3:02:09.000 --> 3:02:09.440 no more. 3:02:10.280 --> 3:02:10.840 You know what I mean. 3:02:11.080 --> 3:02:15.480 Let me reduce, let me reintroduce, because I'm like yellow Stone. 3:02:16.400 --> 3:02:19.680 I just got this peace and the other big boys 3:02:19.720 --> 3:02:23.119 want to eat it. And I've been too busy protecting 3:02:23.160 --> 3:02:27.480 that yellow stone for you to come in and tell me, nigga, how. 3:02:27.400 --> 3:02:28.200 To keep it. 3:02:29.160 --> 3:02:32.680 Break it off more and give me another yellow Stone, nigga, 3:02:32.760 --> 3:02:34.520 and we don't gotta talk again. 3:02:36.200 --> 3:02:37.000 I ain't gonna. 3:02:38.720 --> 3:02:43.600 Real that yellow stone. 3:02:44.120 --> 3:02:50.720 Leave me alone. That shit is so beautiful, man, But 3:02:51.280 --> 3:02:52.400 I can't afford the love. 3:02:53.480 --> 3:02:56.520 Can't you afford the love? Yes, I can afford the love. 3:02:57.120 --> 3:03:01.000 Can't you afford the love? Absolutely? What are you talking about? 3:03:02.200 --> 3:03:05.279 When we gotta fight for the cow, that's when it's serious. 3:03:06.520 --> 3:03:06.840 M M. 3:03:07.560 --> 3:03:10.760 When we when we gotta fight for vegetation, that's when 3:03:10.800 --> 3:03:13.640 it's serious. What you mean you can't talk to me? 3:03:14.640 --> 3:03:17.760 Sip some of this white Hennessey and do what you. 3:03:17.680 --> 3:03:20.520 Do awesome green tea because I heard your green tea. 3:03:20.560 --> 3:03:25.840 I love green tea. You're like, you got a private eye. 3:03:27.240 --> 3:03:31.040 Yeah he does. You got you, You got your ship. 3:03:32.840 --> 3:03:37.640 You like that ship? What's that ship? Whack one hundred? 3:03:38.480 --> 3:03:41.279 Was that another? Yes? You you do your homework. 3:03:42.240 --> 3:03:45.520 Yeah, and I know you're a gardener too. Man. 3:03:45.560 --> 3:03:50.120 You like the Supreme Team Supreme team bro. 3:03:50.240 --> 3:03:53.480 So you're drinking green tea and then you a gardener. 3:03:53.720 --> 3:03:55.560 I love God, I love flowers. 3:03:56.400 --> 3:04:00.280 How I love that ship because if you know what 3:04:01.720 --> 3:04:03.480 it's all in the woman, you picked two. 3:04:04.560 --> 3:04:06.480 But if ain't nothing growing around. 3:04:06.160 --> 3:04:12.000 You, you are suspecting this. 3:04:12.080 --> 3:04:15.240 Ship gotta be growing around you. Ship gotta be like. 3:04:17.200 --> 3:04:19.840 I used to have a dog, So you gotta feed it, 3:04:20.000 --> 3:04:21.840 you gotta walk it, you gotta train it. 3:04:22.879 --> 3:04:25.720 Ship gotta be elevating around you for you to be. 3:04:25.800 --> 3:04:29.160 Something like, fuck you mean I used to only have 3:04:29.200 --> 3:04:33.080 a dog in a gym card when I lost all 3:04:33.160 --> 3:04:39.520 my money. A dog, a dog a gym card, come 3:04:39.600 --> 3:04:46.720 up from there. The dog protects you and then you 3:04:46.760 --> 3:04:51.120 go to the gym and bill your ship. Yeah it 3:04:51.320 --> 3:04:57.039 was yeah, not only one, two of them, because I. 3:04:57.000 --> 3:05:00.240 Had black was the first one, then Rocker was the 3:05:00.280 --> 3:05:06.360 second one unrelated to DMX dog the second one. Both 3:05:06.760 --> 3:05:09.360 both come on, but the second one is specially. 3:05:11.200 --> 3:05:15.600 But listen, yeah, because listen, you're getting it from Yonkers right, 3:05:16.120 --> 3:05:19.119 then you're getting it from his litter. Then you're picking 3:05:19.160 --> 3:05:22.360 from the same litter. How am I not gonna get 3:05:22.360 --> 3:05:24.280 a dog from him? How is he not gonna give 3:05:24.320 --> 3:05:24.840 me a dog? 3:05:26.040 --> 3:05:26.120 No? 3:05:26.280 --> 3:05:29.840 I'm serious. How is DMX not gonna give me a dog? 3:05:30.520 --> 3:05:33.720 How is DMX friend not gonna give me a dog? 3:05:34.040 --> 3:05:36.760 How was the one DMX look up to not gonna 3:05:36.800 --> 3:05:37.520 give me a dog? 3:05:37.840 --> 3:05:38.440 Especially? 3:05:39.560 --> 3:05:43.520 You know my cachet is heavy because I don't talk 3:05:43.560 --> 3:05:49.800 about it, don't mean it ain't happy. 3:05:51.560 --> 3:05:53.600 Shure, not for nothing. The way you just said dog 3:05:53.760 --> 3:05:55.400 every time I felt. 3:05:55.120 --> 3:06:01.720 Like you could tell felt. 3:06:02.959 --> 3:06:06.400 The dog was the one that had kept me from 3:06:06.480 --> 3:06:07.840 walking around the hood. 3:06:07.840 --> 3:06:08.320 The dog. 3:06:08.400 --> 3:06:11.920 When you lose your money, you're limited, so the dog 3:06:12.240 --> 3:06:15.560 keeps you from everybody talking to you till you. 3:06:15.560 --> 3:06:17.960 Get your shit together because the dog is keeping them all. 3:06:18.040 --> 3:06:19.959 Yeah, and then you got your gym card, so get 3:06:20.000 --> 3:06:22.520 your body in your mind together and then something will happened. 3:06:23.600 --> 3:06:26.520 So see how all things fall into place? You know 3:06:26.520 --> 3:06:28.440 what I'm saying when I read the Book of Job, 3:06:28.600 --> 3:06:30.840 that's how I see my life a little bit like, 3:06:31.480 --> 3:06:35.240 oh shit, not that drastic, but just about there. Lose 3:06:35.280 --> 3:06:39.039 all your shit to get more and learn more and 3:06:39.959 --> 3:06:42.160 rock bottom. You can have a lot of shit, but 3:06:42.280 --> 3:06:45.120 can you keep it? You can have a lot of shit, 3:06:45.680 --> 3:06:48.040 but can you keep it? Do you know how to 3:06:48.120 --> 3:06:49.800 keep it? Do you know how to nurture it and 3:06:49.879 --> 3:06:53.880 water it? Like a flower? And that's what you want, man. 3:06:53.959 --> 3:06:56.320 You want that flower to grow. You want that tree 3:06:56.360 --> 3:06:59.320 to grow. So twenty years from now or thirty years 3:06:59.320 --> 3:07:01.800 from now, when you dead, they say, yo, remember he 3:07:02.160 --> 3:07:05.720 used to water that spot over there. Yeah, that ship 3:07:05.800 --> 3:07:20.240 is a big ass tree. Now, punk ass nigga. 3:07:16.440 --> 3:07:16.920 You'll see. 3:07:17.160 --> 3:07:17.360 Man. 3:07:18.080 --> 3:07:21.160 I gotta thank you again, man for being exactly who 3:07:21.240 --> 3:07:23.320 you are exactly. 3:07:23.959 --> 3:07:25.879 I just love it up here because I didn't know 3:07:25.959 --> 3:07:27.920 it was like that. I used to always watch it 3:07:27.959 --> 3:07:31.680 on my phone. This is your house though, yeah you 3:07:31.720 --> 3:07:34.200 don't really know it's your house, but just like you. 3:07:34.360 --> 3:07:36.279 Got to come through the house and take off these. 3:07:36.160 --> 3:07:42.520 Guys, like these guys, it's the professionalism. It's who you 3:07:42.560 --> 3:07:46.920 are organically and how you have a platform. And you say, 3:07:47.240 --> 3:07:51.560 how do these guys do that. They're organic. They're where 3:07:51.560 --> 3:07:52.760 they are thank. 3:07:52.560 --> 3:07:52.800 You, not. 3:07:57.280 --> 3:08:00.560 Yeah, but because they worked so hard a game. 3:08:01.280 --> 3:08:04.360 That thing like when you see them, when you see 3:08:04.520 --> 3:08:06.920 these announcers, when you see people on that. 3:08:06.959 --> 3:08:11.879 And your legend brother and just say something, you are 3:08:11.920 --> 3:08:16.959 a person that deserve you know, like like I kid 3:08:17.000 --> 3:08:20.760 you not. I feel like you raised everyone in this 3:08:20.879 --> 3:08:24.520 fucking room, like we all owe you. Like if you 3:08:24.560 --> 3:08:28.879 want some fried ticket, we gonna get you. Gotcha made 3:08:28.920 --> 3:08:32.119 this platform for for you. We made this platform for you. Listen. 3:08:32.560 --> 3:08:37.120 I appreciate it because I've never got I've never had 3:08:37.160 --> 3:08:42.959 to being around brothers like yourself and really chop it up, yes, 3:08:43.560 --> 3:08:47.760 and really be organic around the camera that I can say, 3:08:48.600 --> 3:08:51.320 I didn't even know it was there. I was just 3:08:51.360 --> 3:08:53.760 giving them a piece of me. Like you know, I 3:08:53.879 --> 3:08:56.760 wasn't out to hurt nobody. I was just I just 3:08:56.920 --> 3:08:59.760 love everybody, you know what I mean. But at the 3:08:59.800 --> 3:09:06.160 same time, I'm to be taken seriously. I want I want, 3:09:06.520 --> 3:09:08.760 I want you to understand that I'm a man like 3:09:08.840 --> 3:09:13.000 you are. Yes, and sometimes when you say it, it's 3:09:13.040 --> 3:09:13.879 not to be said. 3:09:15.879 --> 3:09:16.959 I'm never saying it. 3:09:17.680 --> 3:09:21.320 I just want you to acknowledge it, and even if 3:09:21.320 --> 3:09:26.080 you don't be on the path to do it, you know, 3:09:26.800 --> 3:09:29.880 because there's so much shit out here. I didn't know 3:09:29.959 --> 3:09:33.040 that these young kids was making all this money and 3:09:33.040 --> 3:09:37.000 then they're dying. I didn't know like it was like that, 3:09:37.200 --> 3:09:41.120 and I have to acknowledge it. I can easily ignore 3:09:41.160 --> 3:09:43.199 it because it's not a part of me. But that's 3:09:43.240 --> 3:09:47.240 not charity. Charity is something that got nothing to do 3:09:47.320 --> 3:09:52.040 with you, and you you want to help it, but 3:09:52.080 --> 3:09:54.480 it got nothing to do with your life. But you 3:09:54.640 --> 3:09:59.400 see millionaires dying as little kids, and you're saying that, 3:09:59.440 --> 3:10:03.040 ain't fuck it un fear when I see a young 3:10:03.040 --> 3:10:08.280 white kid and a young European kid, and even a 3:10:08.320 --> 3:10:13.880 young African kid have something in my American young black 3:10:14.000 --> 3:10:18.240 kid can't have nothing, and my Spanish kid can't have nothing, 3:10:19.200 --> 3:10:23.360 you know, because they're destroying them and they're having all 3:10:23.600 --> 3:10:26.360 what they want and they're still dying and taking their 3:10:26.400 --> 3:10:27.520 lives away from them. 3:10:28.000 --> 3:10:31.480 I wouldn't know what to I wouldn't know what. 3:10:31.440 --> 3:10:35.640 It's like to spend time in jail like that with 3:10:35.640 --> 3:10:39.640 with any type of money I have right now, unless 3:10:39.680 --> 3:10:44.240 you hurt my family, you know what I'm saying. But 3:10:45.320 --> 3:10:50.400 the stories it's like you're taking us a thousand steps 3:10:50.440 --> 3:10:56.080 back to be a slave to what this is a music, 3:10:56.160 --> 3:10:59.360 So it's a lose lose. I don't understand it. I 3:10:59.400 --> 3:11:04.000 want somebody to teach me this finally in hip hop, 3:11:04.080 --> 3:11:06.600 I don't know about. I want to just be. 3:11:06.640 --> 3:11:09.920 Taught, Like how does that work? 3:11:10.400 --> 3:11:13.800 I'm not criticizing no more because I know you took 3:11:13.840 --> 3:11:16.640 the best shit out of you. You know what I'm saying. 3:11:16.720 --> 3:11:20.160 When you took pop smoke, you took the best shit ever. 3:11:21.480 --> 3:11:25.400 That was that Tupac shit. So I agree with you, you. 3:11:25.360 --> 3:11:26.000 Know what I'm saying. 3:11:26.680 --> 3:11:30.720 Sometimes these young niggas feel they're so young they don't 3:11:30.760 --> 3:11:34.520 know what's happening, like like they just it dies and 3:11:34.560 --> 3:11:35.000 that's it. 3:11:35.600 --> 3:11:38.640 But to an older nigga, you like, you know that's 3:11:38.680 --> 3:11:40.240 it for real? Do you know? 3:11:40.320 --> 3:11:41.160 That's it for real? 3:11:42.280 --> 3:11:42.520 Yeah? 3:11:42.640 --> 3:11:44.119 Like you think you took pop. 3:11:43.959 --> 3:11:47.160 Smoking that that's and I'm not even on it like that, 3:11:47.280 --> 3:11:50.520 but I know what it means when you did that. 3:11:52.600 --> 3:11:56.360 I know what it means when you did that, So 3:11:56.600 --> 3:12:00.760 I'm I just want to learn, like, like how do 3:12:00.840 --> 3:12:05.080 you how do you like get past that and go 3:12:05.280 --> 3:12:08.119 to him and say I want to protect you Are 3:12:08.120 --> 3:12:09.960 you protecting him? 3:12:10.280 --> 3:12:14.520 Are you protecting him so he won't die? Like you 3:12:14.640 --> 3:12:15.600 kill King Vaughan? 3:12:15.760 --> 3:12:20.600 Like you kill ship that I don't I don't understand, 3:12:21.440 --> 3:12:22.840 Like why are you killing them? 3:12:23.959 --> 3:12:28.320 Aren't they your ship? Aren't they our ship? You know 3:12:28.360 --> 3:12:29.560 what you're talking about? 3:12:29.720 --> 3:12:32.400 Like what are you doing? What do you what do 3:12:32.440 --> 3:12:34.959 you want? Are you doing it for? 3:12:35.080 --> 3:12:35.320 Who? 3:12:35.480 --> 3:12:36.840 How much money do you want? 3:12:37.000 --> 3:12:37.160 To? 3:12:37.200 --> 3:12:37.760 Not kill that? 3:12:39.760 --> 3:12:45.560 They're destroying the families of these guys they have kids? 3:12:45.680 --> 3:12:49.039 What I don't understand what you want. I just want 3:12:49.040 --> 3:12:53.360 to learn, Like I'm out of it. Just let me 3:12:53.440 --> 3:12:58.520 learn what you're doing and then were good? Like let 3:12:58.560 --> 3:13:00.760 me learn why you gotta die? Why you got to 3:13:00.760 --> 3:13:04.600 think about why you got to think about when it's 3:13:04.640 --> 3:13:09.000 important to like let people see you, travel around the world, 3:13:09.160 --> 3:13:15.160 see your options. Why are you and rykers Island? Who 3:13:15.200 --> 3:13:18.720 can talk to you? Okay? You getting millions and you 3:13:18.800 --> 3:13:25.039 still go to jail? Why you and that doesn't affect nothing? 3:13:26.240 --> 3:13:30.080 You not doing shows you in prison, that doesn't affect nothing. 3:13:30.520 --> 3:13:31.119 For what. 3:13:32.840 --> 3:13:36.480 I'm just asking, is a gang more important than your family? 3:13:36.560 --> 3:13:39.400 I just want to know, Like who's your true gang? 3:13:39.600 --> 3:13:43.400 Like like my true gang is my grandpa? Like I 3:13:43.560 --> 3:13:47.240 killed for that like me, I killed for it. Would 3:13:47.280 --> 3:13:50.520 you see you in a chain? You had a chain on? 3:13:50.640 --> 3:13:50.760 What? 3:13:51.240 --> 3:13:51.400 Yeah? 3:13:51.520 --> 3:13:55.240 With my grandpa, your grandfather? Because that's CEO Smooth. That's 3:13:55.280 --> 3:13:59.200 where I got it from. What do you kill for? 3:14:00.120 --> 3:14:02.840 You killed to impress this man? Or do you kill 3:14:02.920 --> 3:14:05.720 to put food on your table? If I got seven 3:14:05.760 --> 3:14:10.760 eight million, I'm not killing nothing. Let me just be 3:14:10.840 --> 3:14:13.840 honest with you, because you teach me why you got 3:14:13.840 --> 3:14:17.200 to hurt somebody that got nothing, that's in the Bronx 3:14:17.320 --> 3:14:21.000 or Brooklyn or Queens. You could be anywhere in the world, 3:14:21.040 --> 3:14:24.440 but they here, and they might be special, and you 3:14:24.640 --> 3:14:25.400 killing them? 3:14:26.600 --> 3:14:28.760 Why so me? 3:14:28.959 --> 3:14:33.400 I guess life is valuable when you when you look 3:14:33.640 --> 3:14:37.280 like this, when you act like this, I feel like 3:14:37.720 --> 3:14:44.000 life is valuable. Is that important to you? Do you 3:14:44.080 --> 3:14:47.000 feel me or you don't feel me? I need a 3:14:47.080 --> 3:14:50.240 gun to make you feel me. I'm showing you how 3:14:50.280 --> 3:14:52.480 to get away from it. You want to go to 3:14:52.560 --> 3:14:56.480 them niggas, Like I don't even fuck with niggas? 3:14:57.400 --> 3:14:57.880 What is that? 3:14:59.040 --> 3:15:02.880 When we growing that out of it? We want to 3:15:02.959 --> 3:15:06.840 live around neighbors. Dad, ain't trying to shoot us, ain't 3:15:06.879 --> 3:15:09.440 trying to rob us. Don't want to know how much 3:15:09.480 --> 3:15:13.119 money we got in our house. Why can't we work 3:15:13.240 --> 3:15:18.280 like that? What kind of president are we getting? I'm 3:15:18.280 --> 3:15:22.280 never in the politics, but the way is working. They're 3:15:22.360 --> 3:15:26.600 forcing you to think about politics, Like what do you 3:15:26.680 --> 3:15:27.240 want from me? 3:15:28.560 --> 3:15:31.840 I don't care. I grew up in the old New York. 3:15:31.959 --> 3:15:40.920 I don't care like New Yorkers be everywhere, to be everywhere, But. 3:15:40.879 --> 3:15:41.440 I don't want to. 3:15:41.560 --> 3:15:43.680 I don't want to think about things that you forced 3:15:43.720 --> 3:15:45.400 me to think about in this society. 3:15:46.120 --> 3:15:47.360 That's why I'm an introvert. 3:15:47.400 --> 3:15:52.600 That's why I think soaking up family is more important. 3:15:52.680 --> 3:15:57.280 Is somebody who just wants likes their own company and 3:15:57.360 --> 3:15:58.760 not the company of others. 3:15:59.720 --> 3:16:01.800 I could be somewhere by. 3:16:01.640 --> 3:16:09.280 Myself on my compound, not where I gotta be entertained 3:16:09.320 --> 3:16:13.560 by something. So when I come out, I understand when 3:16:13.720 --> 3:16:18.480 a person is in sahu, a person is in the box. 3:16:19.640 --> 3:16:23.640 A person can spend a pandemic in a room and 3:16:23.720 --> 3:16:25.879 don't come out the house. But you stay in the 3:16:26.040 --> 3:16:29.240 room in the house. You don't just roam the house. 3:16:29.280 --> 3:16:32.520 You stay in the room. You gotta be conditioned for that, 3:16:34.680 --> 3:16:39.120 and I'm crazy for that. I'm intrigued by that because 3:16:39.120 --> 3:16:43.080 my life is based on that how society is going 3:16:43.160 --> 3:16:48.760 where you're gonna have to box yourself in and it 3:16:48.800 --> 3:16:51.280 ain't gonna be no choice because you see, it's that 3:16:51.520 --> 3:16:53.360 they're breaking you into something that we. 3:16:53.400 --> 3:16:56.000 Never heard of. Sure, you know what I'm saying, We 3:16:56.120 --> 3:16:56.840 never heard of that. 3:16:57.160 --> 3:17:00.800 And the music is what comes to say, savage beast, 3:17:00.920 --> 3:17:04.920 that that's what makes things operate and move in a 3:17:05.040 --> 3:17:09.000 life that is dormant, and then you have some rhythm 3:17:09.040 --> 3:17:11.280 to it and then we move in. 3:17:13.360 --> 3:17:13.880 He loves it. 3:17:15.920 --> 3:17:20.000 But you know I'm serious because I'm I think if 3:17:20.000 --> 3:17:23.520 I sit here and sip and smoke and not give 3:17:23.640 --> 3:17:27.000 something to the youth, it's you know what I'm saying, 3:17:27.440 --> 3:17:32.480 It's not they have to connect like a trainer, you 3:17:32.520 --> 3:17:36.440 know what I'm saying. Even Creed needed a rocky, you 3:17:36.480 --> 3:17:39.400 know what I'm saying. So it's who's teaching you, not 3:17:39.560 --> 3:17:42.840 what you know. It's who's teaching you what you know 3:17:43.400 --> 3:17:47.039 to make you a success. Not every teacher know how 3:17:47.080 --> 3:17:50.160 to bring you to the home run, but experience will. 3:17:50.240 --> 3:17:58.040 But experience will, and knowing rhythm and sound and adaptation. 3:17:58.760 --> 3:18:01.879 When you can adapt, when you can be uncomfortable to 3:18:01.959 --> 3:18:07.119 get comfortable, you're a bad man, you're a bad man. 3:18:08.360 --> 3:18:09.400 You're a bad man. 3:18:14.400 --> 3:18:17.400 So anything else letter you want to say it to 3:18:17.480 --> 3:18:20.280 your fans, I. 3:18:20.240 --> 3:18:23.440 Gave it to them because you can come up here 3:18:23.440 --> 3:18:25.800 and you can be anything you want to be. But 3:18:25.959 --> 3:18:33.160 authentic is what you want to be. You wanna, you wanna, 3:18:33.400 --> 3:18:36.800 you want to show that you love people's at the 3:18:36.920 --> 3:18:38.640 end of the day, you love people. 3:18:38.800 --> 3:18:40.199 You love their progress. 3:18:40.760 --> 3:18:43.680 You love when they upgrade, You love when they come 3:18:43.720 --> 3:18:46.959 home to the house they love. You love when they 3:18:47.040 --> 3:18:49.600 progress and do what they want to do in life 3:18:49.640 --> 3:18:53.320 and be proud of themselves. So that's what you want 3:18:54.400 --> 3:18:58.120 other people to be grater than you when you are 3:18:58.680 --> 3:19:01.640 no way your life is and how it's going in 3:19:02.720 --> 3:19:08.760 you know, and you say, hey, baby, my greatest things 3:19:08.800 --> 3:19:13.680 I lost they up there. When I do shows, it's 3:19:13.720 --> 3:19:16.560 not about the people down here, it's about the people 3:19:16.680 --> 3:19:20.720 up there. And that's what makes that song so crazy, 3:19:21.160 --> 3:19:24.680 is that I could feel my ancestors they dancing, they 3:19:24.800 --> 3:19:28.760 going all year that African shit, and they going that 3:19:28.959 --> 3:19:32.720 Cape Verdean shit, and they going through those islands of 3:19:32.800 --> 3:19:38.360 the Cape Verdians and they're going, yeah, do it because 3:19:38.400 --> 3:19:41.840 they used to live to one hundred and something. 3:19:43.400 --> 3:19:46.520 Could you believe they used to live to one hundred 3:19:46.640 --> 3:19:47.040 and something. 3:19:47.080 --> 3:19:49.760 I had a great grandfather that lived one hundred and 3:19:49.840 --> 3:19:50.640 something years. 3:19:52.280 --> 3:19:56.360 I just want to touch one hundred. Give it to me. 3:19:58.080 --> 3:20:02.240 If they said, hey, you could see your grandfather, but 3:20:02.280 --> 3:20:05.080 you got to give up all your shit and you 3:20:05.120 --> 3:20:07.920 could see him for fifteen minutes, I would give up 3:20:08.040 --> 3:20:11.440 all my shit and start all over again. 3:20:12.680 --> 3:20:18.000 I know it. You gotta know your limitations. See your grandfather. 3:20:18.080 --> 3:20:20.640 To see my grandfather one more time and touch him 3:20:20.680 --> 3:20:24.040 for fifteen minutes, I give up everything and talk to 3:20:24.280 --> 3:20:27.440 money don't mean nothing, and I'd spend ten minutes crying, 3:20:28.040 --> 3:20:30.680 but five minutes talking that. 3:20:30.800 --> 3:20:37.520 Shit baby fire, talking that shit baby like, Hey, did 3:20:37.560 --> 3:20:39.000 they think we was going to do that? 3:20:39.840 --> 3:20:42.520 Did they think we was going do what we did 3:20:42.640 --> 3:20:46.640 or whatever? How they think we live in Pop when 3:20:46.640 --> 3:20:52.240 we live with nothing? How they think we living? Oh baby, 3:20:53.040 --> 3:20:54.760 what you ain't telling them? 3:20:55.000 --> 3:20:55.200 Nah? 3:20:55.200 --> 3:21:00.119 I kept in this secret? Yeah shit, because I love you. 3:21:00.720 --> 3:21:03.840 I love you, and you said come around there with 3:21:03.879 --> 3:21:07.720 that bullshit car, but leave with that new ship. Don't 3:21:07.760 --> 3:21:09.959 tell them what. Don't let them know what your left 3:21:09.959 --> 3:21:11.920 hand and your right hand is doing. I'm saying, Pop, 3:21:11.959 --> 3:21:15.400 it don't work like that pop. It don't work like that, 3:21:15.480 --> 3:21:19.480 and he's saying, Nigga, you see what I told you, right? 3:21:19.640 --> 3:21:22.040 You see what I told you right, And you would 3:21:22.080 --> 3:21:26.120 have picked better friends. Five you to pick better friends, Champ, 3:21:27.840 --> 3:21:33.680 But I love y'all, and it's a session. It's a session. Yeah, 3:21:33.760 --> 3:21:38.960 it's a session because that sweet You're gonna make it 3:21:38.959 --> 3:21:42.920 what it is. You know you're gonna make it what 3:21:43.000 --> 3:21:43.320 it is. 3:21:44.600 --> 3:21:52.080 Fucking yo, yo, thank you, take a picture, Thank you, 3:21:52.920 --> 3:21:55.240 Thank you man so much. Man love. 3:21:56.920 --> 3:22:01.000 Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production and executive 3:22:01.000 --> 3:22:04.040 producers n O r E and dj e FN. 3:22:05.040 --> 3:22:05.840 Listen to Drink. 3:22:05.720 --> 3:22:10.080 Champs on Apple podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you 3:22:10.160 --> 3:22:13.920 get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another episode 3:22:13.959 --> 3:22:16.600 of Drink Champs, hosted by Yours truly, dj e f 3:22:16.720 --> 3:22:18.880 N and n O r E. 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