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Speaker 2: In O r E.

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Speaker 3: He's a Miami hip hop lioneer put up as DJ

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Speaker 2: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players,

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Speaker 4: And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one

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Speaker 4: source for drunk drink chans mother.

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Speaker 1: Every day is New Years.

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Speaker 2: Listen, It's time for drink Champs. Drink up, motherfuck mother?

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Speaker 2: Would it gonna be hoping to winter? Should be to

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Speaker 1: And this is mindle tam crazy for a radio drink chests.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever made something that?

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Speaker 1: Now, when we started this show, we said we wanted

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Speaker 1: to give it to icons, We wanted to give it

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Speaker 1: up to legends, the people that came before us, the

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Speaker 1: people that came right with us. And when we talk

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Speaker 1: about the brother that's here, man, this guy has changed

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Speaker 1: the game. He literally could say I changed the game

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Speaker 1: from people going to whatever to people actually thinking about

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Speaker 1: their raps and being skillful. I went through this. I

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Speaker 1: believe when we go through these people, I've went through

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Speaker 1: this brother, music just kept going through, kept going through,

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Speaker 1: kept going through them. I'm like, damn, he could drop

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Speaker 1: this music now and it works. In case you don't

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Speaker 1: know what we're talking about, mother one only motherfucker see us.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna go off top. I don't give me

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Speaker 1: a drink. Listen, now you order the white Hennie. Let

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Speaker 1: me just tell you something.

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Speaker 2: I was so proud of you.

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Speaker 1: Because let me just tell you something. You know, yah know,

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Speaker 1: because let me just tell you something. You are so unique, right,

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Speaker 1: and we've been doing this for eight years on nine years, right,

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Speaker 1: and this is the first time anybody ever ordered white handed.

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Speaker 2: So say white hen.

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Speaker 1: That's That's exactly what I expected from him to be.

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Speaker 2: To be shocked.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: But let's let's let's take this from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Man. I've enjoyed researching you, knowing that you was coming

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Speaker 1: up here. I just enjoyed because you're truly a class

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Speaker 1: act man. You know what I'm saying. You're truly one

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Speaker 1: of those people that that at the highest of your career,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what outside of looking at you know,

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Speaker 1: How do you maintain that that that type of aura.

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Speaker 5: I just think it comes from the people who raised you,

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Speaker 5: your upbringing, how they treated you in life. And I

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Speaker 5: always felt that you get more being humble, get more

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Speaker 2: That's how you get it right.

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Speaker 1: You know. My friend of mine, he always tells me

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Speaker 2: You ever get that a problem? Not really, because perceptions

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Speaker 5: A lot of times people think you're unapproachable, your mean,

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Speaker 1: Right, And a lot of people don't know being from

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Speaker 1: Mount Vernon, right, Mount Vernon is almost closer to the

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Speaker 2: That's a fact? Yeah, so how is that?

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Speaker 1: Because I remember go Mount Vernon, I remember that just

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Speaker 1: Let's flip around and bounce around a little bit. Because

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Speaker 1: I heard you say something, and when I met have,

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Speaker 1: I did it. I didn't know the word to describe Havelf,

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Speaker 1: Pun was one of my closest friends in hip hop.

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Speaker 1: But it wouldn't have been no Pun without Heavy D's.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been no Big without Heavy D. So

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Speaker 5: Heavy D was to me a class salute. I look,

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Speaker 5: that's right. My birthday, we were talking about a class act,

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Speaker 5: talking about somebody who was almost three hundred pounds. He

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Speaker 2: Right, you know what I mean? You know it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Like hold it like that. The facts fato damn, you're right, but.

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Speaker 1: No, no fad boys first.

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Speaker 2: Fat boys is first. Nobody moved like head.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, nobody was as graceful as Heavy Deal.

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Speaker 3: He was dancing keeping up with them right right and

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, we're talking about man close to three hundred pounds

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Speaker 1: And I just want to describe that era in hip

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Speaker 5: I think it was anytime you can get into a

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Speaker 5: I have something to contribute to it. Like my first

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Speaker 2: That was your first song. That was my first song.

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Speaker 5: That was the first official remix of hip hop being

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Speaker 2: I was the first.

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Speaker 1: Ah, I'm not noting. I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 3: That it's such an importance. It's like, not just to

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Speaker 5: that a lot of people thought wasn't real, but every

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Speaker 5: all of my music. It's nothing fake about my music.

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Speaker 5: It's all paying homage to the people who don't are

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Speaker 2: And that came across from the music. And you know

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Speaker 1: That record is so familiar right that like young kids

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Speaker 1: that you're paying tribute to your man, Troy. Like this morning,

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Speaker 2: Right, Troy? They reminisce over you.

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Speaker 1: And you know he's young, he's young, he's a director,

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Speaker 2: Like he was like what he like? He didn't know?

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Speaker 1: So that's how famous the record is that people couldn't

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Speaker 5: I didn't know, but I knew I was writing something

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Speaker 2: You know who writes something special?

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Speaker 5: And you know you didn't hear it anywhere else? Right,

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Speaker 2: If you looked.

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Speaker 2: Listen to reminisce over you. This is it lasting for

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Speaker 1: You ain't get no excuse, you the twenty one trash

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Speaker 2: You ain't got no excuse. He just said it. I

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Speaker 5: We were listening to different music normally we were listening

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Speaker 5: to We were listening the crates and crates of old music.

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Speaker 5: Man that was educating us, to force us to put

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Speaker 5: Big Daddy came, Hoogi Wrapped, Heavy d Public Enemy. You

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Speaker 5: have all these groups. What do you have to contribute

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Speaker 1: Get you part of go To.

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Speaker 5: But that's such a but what makes you a great

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Speaker 5: artist as being a fan too, it's understanding.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like it's like.

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Speaker 5: to re recognize Muhammad Ali to be a Floyd. To

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Speaker 5: by something. So with all that originality, did they know

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Speaker 2: They had the same producing it ain't sound the same?

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Speaker 3: And what you this is the thing though, late eighties

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Speaker 5: They were accessible where where you couldn't catch a map.

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Speaker 5: But if you was with Have Have gravitated every type

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Speaker 1: What were life would have been like? Had have kind

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Speaker 5: Being rich a lot quicker like that, we would have

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Speaker 5: So all you want to do is be like that.

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Speaker 1: Play the record has I just wanted to. I just

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Speaker 1: So will you my god, hold on? I always wanted

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Speaker 1: to know that part when you're Queen's wis in the

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Speaker 1: chapter You're not talking about the queens.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about a queen.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about a queen.

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Speaker 2: I always queens. I know I was wrong. But I

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Speaker 5: That's where we first. She's from Newroschelle. But when she

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Speaker 5: which is a big, big, big, gigantic step.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, From New k to Queens.

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Speaker 2: She still does. Wow, that's what. So how damn so

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Speaker 1: You got Queens in you, you got newll and you

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Speaker 2: So let's take it from the beginning. How did what what?

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Speaker 1: What made you start rhyming? What was your inspiration at

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Speaker 5: My inspiration was when I was fifteen sixteen, huh and

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Speaker 5: It's never been all good. It's always been good and bad,

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Speaker 5: So it changed the perception of me of how I

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Speaker 5: How you got your fun, but I know it ain't fun.

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Speaker 5: Another one day, I had a bunch of cracks in

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Speaker 5: and I'm talking to black Rock and Ron it's another

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Speaker 5: what I mean, It's a major, major influence on kids

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Speaker 5: just you driving by can spark a person to be

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Speaker 1: Now I want to talk about I'm sure this group

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Speaker 1: back for them, which is Run DMC. Right, But Run

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Speaker 1: DMC themselves claim that y'all saved their career.

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Speaker 2: Do you understand how much of a compliment that is?

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Speaker 1: Like Run DMC said, if it wasn't for y'all to

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Speaker 2: Literally saved them, talking about Down with the King. Of

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Speaker 5: I heard them keep saying it. But when you're doing it,

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Speaker 2: Or whatever at the time.

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Speaker 5: You're just doing this because I'm just doing it because

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Speaker 5: I'm in love with them.

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Speaker 2: Come on to me, Nori felt.

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Speaker 5: When I make a record with them, I'm official.

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Speaker 1: You're not even helping save your heroes.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't care about helping. Just let's make a

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Speaker 5: That's what what make surprise me That it's sold more

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Speaker 5: more than that. How is that possible? Because use the ship, sir?

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Speaker 5: I felt like that was so crazy. So you know,

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Speaker 5: I just want you to know.

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Speaker 1: See I shows about giving people they flowers leave ready

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Speaker 1: It's the very beginning of us starting this show. You

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Speaker 1: face man Snoop Dogg, Sir, is better than the ground,

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Speaker 1: because you know what I'm saying, if you want to

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's not just us.

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Speaker 1: I'm just and I said this on your intro, but

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Speaker 1: would you were your floor was on point. It made people,

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Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, it made people want

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Speaker 1: know that if it wasn't for you, it probably wouldn't

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Speaker 3: Like And.

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Speaker 1: Was that something that you was trying to do, like like,

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Speaker 2: Music or was it indicative to the era?

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Speaker 2: I think it was. I think it was a little

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, because what I was trying to do is

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be here.

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Speaker 1: I change the subject a little bit. I love to see,

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Speaker 1: I can still go out there because you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it, there's no such thing as called

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Speaker 1: called washed up and jazz. Mick Jagen can fucking tour

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What is that at eighty years old's sniffing,

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like, So I love I love when I see I

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Speaker 1: think Buster said it on stage again, Sorry to keep

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Speaker 1: hip hop like how we're doing. But what is your

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Speaker 5: But what I break it down, Well, because as you

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Speaker 5: as you perform more and more you grow, you get better.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. It's a one shot deal

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Speaker 5: in the studio. Either you're gonna get it right. Is

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Speaker 5: it like that to Okay? Yeah, because I always wanted

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Speaker 5: get it right, yep. And then when you get it right,

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Speaker 2: You I take it seriously.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what other artists do, but I take

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Speaker 5: rub my feet rub I know it's war, I know, right,

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Speaker 5: So I step into this zone of performance and then

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Speaker 5: when I get off, it's over. I'm back to me.

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Speaker 5: I'm back to my regular self. Are we ready for

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Speaker 5: Quick Time Slide?

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Speaker 2: Come on? She's Luisa's real.

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Speaker 3: I mean. The one thing about being on stage, though,

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Speaker 5: I want to give them my energy. A lot of times,

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Speaker 5: most times I don't get their energy. I don't because

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Speaker 5: I don't see them. They're just things.

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Speaker 2: They're not I don't even see them. They're just things.

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Speaker 5: You have to really do something for me to stop

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Speaker 5: what I'm doing and look at you.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: You gotta really yeah, you gotta really do something for

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Speaker 5: me to just check out of what I'm doing and

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Speaker 5: look at what this ship is doing.

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Speaker 2: You know, So I just see blur. I don't see people.

443
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 5: I just see me giving you what I'm giving you,

444
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 5: and whatever you're doing, that's what you're doing.

445
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, what more do I mean?

446
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 6: This is?

447
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: This is me. This is my personal question. Do you

448
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: enjoy being in the group more or being a solo

449
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: artist more?

450
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: I like, I like.

451
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 5: I like a little bit of both, you know, because

452
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 5: I struggle with it because my heyday was the group, right.

453
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: But now I don't have to check in with nobody.

454
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 5: I don't have to worry about how the other person

455
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 5: feel no more, because it's all about me and how

456
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 5: I feel.

457
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: So if I don't want to stay, I don't have

458
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: to stay.

459
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 5: I can move and come and go and move how

460
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 5: I want, and talk how I want and display the

461
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 5: things that I want to do. When you with another boss,

462
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 5: it's like a marriage. You know what I'm saying. You

463
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 5: gotta worry about what they do before you do what

464
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 5: you want to do, you know what I'm saying.

465
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: And they'll always be in question if you don't ask them.

466
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 5: So I like a little bit of both because I

467
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 5: like the successes with the group. But then I like

468
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 5: me because I write my own ticket. I can go

469
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 5: home when I want to.

470
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 1: It's like I heard you say, he was like, He's like,

471
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: I knew. That's why I knew he's gonna be on

472
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: time today.

473
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: I knew he was.

474
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: Gonna be on top. I was like, I knew it

475
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: he was. I was just watching mad interviews on you,

476
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: and I said, this motherfucker is not playing no games

477
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: because you look you do look at life like a boxer.

478
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: I do. I do, I really do. I ain't gonna lie.

479
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: I was watching certain interviews of you and I was like,

480
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: because it's not a lot, it's not a lot.

481
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 2: I was like, damn it.

482
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: And a couple of them I was sa, he's super serious.

483
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, Dad, and then I was like,

484
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: you said, y'all, don't play with no one's time.

485
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: I was like fuck and I was stream and by

486
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: the way, I take pride on me early.

487
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: But the person that he was wrapping up and he

488
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: just couldn't stop, so I couldn't stop him. But that's

489
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: the difference between me too, See me, I can relate

490
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: to you because I'm so obviously I did solo thing

491
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: and I did a group And one thing that I

492
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: started to notice when I was with capone like I

493
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: couldn't change him to be like me.

494
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: I can't change him to be on time.

495
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: And the more the more that I tried to make

496
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: him like me, the more that he couldn't be couldn't

497
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: be at all. So and I'm saying that in a

498
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: good way because what I know I had to do

499
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: was kind of like let him be him. Did you

500
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: ever feel like that and being in a part of

501
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: the group, Oh yeah, okay, yeah, I know the answer,

502
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: But IM asking the world.

503
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 5: Here, yeah, because you're looking at you're looking at a

504
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 5: top five producer, right, you know what I'm saying, And

505
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 5: you're looking at somebody who wants to come late you

506
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 5: on time, he's going to be late because he's going

507
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 5: to be over here and doing what he loved.

508
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: And my love is on time. You know, That's what

509
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

510
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: And you know it's crazy people, people who's not in

511
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: the group body can't relate to what you what.

512
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 5: You just said.

513
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: It's so complicated.

514
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: It's so simply bad complicated because like you literally when

515
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: you're in a group, even though it's two men, yeah,

516
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: it could be eight different personalities.

517
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 5: It's the Iley Brothers out there, motherfuckers, just tool y'all.

518
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: But it's trust me, I know I've been through it.

519
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: We got quick, Thomas Slime Ready, hold.

520
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: The hold up before we go into that, because we

521
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: started to talk about how you got aspired to be

522
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: an MC. But let's let's track back actually getting to

523
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 3: the beginning of the groups, like how do you guys connect?

524
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: We connected in high school.

525
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 5: It was all about these two young kids loving this

526
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 5: old ass music, like old ass music means like the sad.

527
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 5: None of none of our peers are listening to this.

528
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 5: They're not. They're they're looking at us like we are crazy,

529
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 5: Like what's wrong with you? Are you? Are you stuck

530
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 5: in the time warp or Are you Are you chasing something? Yes,

531
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 5: we are, we're chasing something.

532
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: Are these your parents records that you're discovering these? Or

533
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 2: this is just on your own? This is our parents

534
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: raise their parents' records.

535
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 5: We're doing We're doing things that teenagers are not doing

536
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 5: and not doing it. That's like, that's like somebody saying, Okay,

537
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 5: we're not going to the car veil because I got

538
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 5: to watch my waistline in the nineties sun heard of.

539
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: But for those that don't know, Carvel's ice.

540
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: A mat of what you're eating.

541
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 5: It's a matter of how you are disciplined in what

542
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 5: you're doing. And we were discipline and what we were doing,

543
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 5: and nobody was with it. Nobody could understand that concept

544
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 5: of making music listening to these old records. They could

545
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 5: listen to the finished product, but not the old product.

546
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 5: And I think that's what we had in common, that

547
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: we loved this old music and we wanted to create

548
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 5: something with it, and that's what we were doing with

549
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 5: the We started with pause buttoning and pausing in the

550
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 5: music and looping it and we started from that here.

551
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 5: We started from that and it became a bonding. It

552
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 5: was three of us. It was like three of us

553
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: before then they came to because the other one went

554
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 5: to jail and he didn't see the vision. So you

555
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 5: gotta see the vision. It's a vision. You gotta see it.

556
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 5: It's not just about putting yourself there and sign me

557
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 5: and I got half with me. No, it's a vision

558
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 5: I want. I actually wanted to be better than that.

559
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 5: I wanted his spot, you know what I'm saying. I

560
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 5: wanted his spot because I saw it was so comfortable,

561
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 5: was so natural, and I was a student of the game.

562
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 5: In order for you to be a master, you gotta

563
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 5: be a student. Very true.

564
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: Are you ready to quick time with life?

565
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: To him? The rules?

566
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: This is our drinking game. We're gonna give you. Please, please,

567
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna give you two choices. Now, it's not to

568
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: this is not a negative thing. We we just want

569
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: to bring up people's names. Any stories you got, but

570
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: you pick one. If you pick one, nobody drinks. If

571
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: you say both or neither, which would be the piece

572
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 3: the answer you just don't want to answer.

573
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: It not good. But you ain't taking the PC roud

574
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: I can tell you, But give us any stories.

575
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: It's really about talking about the people and the places

576
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: that we're bringing.

577
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: Up you know, I'll bring it up later. Okay, Heavy

578
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: D or DMX.

579
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 5: Heavy D because he taught me everything and I wanted

580
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 5: to beat him. DMX that was my brother, that was

581
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 5: my old geez, that was his baby boy. So I

582
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 5: really fond sentimental value for him personally. Like, yeah, we

583
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 5: go deeper, we go into the dogs, like my dog

584
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 5: and his dog were.

585
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: Brothers and like that. They don't know that. They don't know.

586
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 5: They don't know about that because there's certain things that

587
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 5: he has that I don't bring out, and this certain

588
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 5: things that I have that he doesn't bring out. But

589
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 5: we have things in common. We talk about dogs. We

590
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,239
Speaker 5: had the same dog, We had the same This is

591
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. This is how it is

592
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 5: that dogs are related. Dogs were related.

593
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: That's some that's hard that I ain't gonna lie. I

594
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: was not ready for that. Okay, Tupac or Biggie, and

595
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: you got stories of both of them, right, I like.

596
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: I like Tupac because it get all the bitches.

597
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 5: Yeah you roll with Tupac. Yeah, Tupac used to be

598
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 5: the weed man. Tupac used to That's the we got

599
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 5: me and super Cat. That's where we got our weed.

600
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: From like he was buying it off for him or

601
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: he was giving he was giving it to he was

602
00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: giving it to me.

603
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: I would have bought it, get it twisted, but he

604
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: gave it to Did you say super Cat?

605
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 5: You and supercan super Cat with sweatiness?

606
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: Dude for some mo By the way, I want to

607
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: see this nicture so bad.

608
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: See how Supercat getting to weave from Tubac. That's a

609
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: documentary in itself. Said god, you know, so this is

610
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: on tour. This is just hanging with heav When with

611
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: have you can see the whole world.

612
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 5: That's right, You're gonna see everybody, because he's a gravitator.

613
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: Yes, he gravitates energy towards him.

614
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: Some humans they have that talent where he people come

615
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 5: to him. They they man and woman, old, young baby.

616
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 5: I don't know what he had, but I wanted it.

617
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 5: I was trying to rub off on him any chance.

618
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: I did you did you get the did you get

619
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: to meet I know you got meet. Did you do

620
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: underground Tupac? If you ever got to meet death Row Tupac?

621
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: Because wasn't the room where y'all was gonna sat to

622
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: death Row at one point?

623
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: I mean there was a lot of rumors, but that's

624
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: what it was. The rumors. Yeah, yeah, I just love La.

625
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: I didn't even care about he was smoking.

626
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: Here I was.

627
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: I was just cared about my weed in La.

628
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 5: Okay, But did you bet Tupac? I'm defro Tupac. I

629
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 5: met the death ro Tupop. But at that time, everybody

630
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 5: was scared of him. So I remember taking a cab ride.

631
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: With Tracy Waple's one time. Yeah yeah, so.

632
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: Oh that's Tracy Claverty from Tracy Ware Racy from a

633
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: bad Boy.

634
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 5: Here you go. So we I jumped out the cab.

635
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 5: I see pop. This is when all the drama is

636
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 5: supposed to be. Hit him up right, all the drama.

637
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: And I see him out in front of the hotel

638
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 5: and he got a crowd around him and he's smoking weed.

639
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 5: So I said, I'm fiend and I just got out together.

640
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 5: So I said, you know, and I'm going over there.

641
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 5: So Tracy said, don't go. I was like, I'm going

642
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 5: over there. So I went over there and he's talking,

643
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 5: and he's talking. I just take the weed out of

644
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 5: his hands right here you go, and then go about

645
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 5: my business.

646
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: Whoa.

647
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 5: He was that type of guy. He was that type

648
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 5: of guy. Jesus, he was that type of guy I

649
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 5: met Biggie, not Tupac. Biggie was just he was just

650
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 5: too smooth. He was just a smooth guy. He was

651
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 5: just he was. He was actually more humble than I was,

652
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. He was he was, he was.

653
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 5: He was a you could just tell he was a

654
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 5: special type of guy. And the type of stuff that

655
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 5: Jay Black used to tell me. I used to be like, yo,

656
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 5: Jay Black, because you know Jay Blacks from Mount Vernon,

657
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 5: Belly j So we all grew up together. Yeah, we

658
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 5: all grew up together. So you know, he always used

659
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 5: to tell me about Biggie and I used to be like,

660
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 5: but damn, he don't act like that. He's like, Yo,

661
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 5: you don't know Biggie like I do. I was like, Wow, that's.

662
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: A bad man.

663
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: Was when it happened to him. Yes I was. I believe, Yes,

664
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: I was. Yeah I was.

665
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 5: And you saw him out there that I saw him

666
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 5: out there, and you know, you kind of knew what

667
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 5: what was going to happen when he got up there

668
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 5: on the podium, and I was like, damn, when he

669
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 5: got up there, I think I don't know what it

670
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 5: was I think it was the the No, it was

671
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 5: the awards and he said, what's up at.

672
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: The Golden Globe? Or what was it?

673
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: I think it was BT or something like that. It

674
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: was already said from that point. From that point when

675
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: he said what up l A, I was like, I'm leaving.

676
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: Why I'm leaving?

677
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 5: Because you felt I just felt like he shouldn't have

678
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 5: said nothing. You shouldn't even acknowledge them be in and

679
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 5: out like NAS did, be in and out like cl did.

680
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 2: Just be in and out. Yo, what up? You good?

681
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 5: I'm out in the next plane smoking. I think he

682
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 5: stayed too long, you know. Damn, they don't get it twisted.

683
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 5: I don't know why they don't think New Yorkers love LA.

684
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 5: We love that ship.

685
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know see, let me, I'm gonna say something, right.

686
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: I remember us going to the source of wars, and

687
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: this is the source of wards. I don't know if

688
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: you remember that. Everybody got robbed in California. Everybody got robbed.

689
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: I didn't get robbed, but but the fuck that part

690
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: about it was I dropped that album that week similar

691
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: to how Big did, and they forced me to stay

692
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: because I went number one. Damn there everywhere but what

693
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: place l A l A. I did not go. I

694
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: don't even got cracked the top twenty. So they were

695
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: like you you you need to stay there and you

696
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: need to put in work. So the record label did

697
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: actually make me stay there. Now had something happened to me?

698
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: Is that the record label for? Or is that my

699
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: fall fall? Because I could have said, fuck them, I

700
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: don't have to be number one here. I could get

701
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: out of here. But I didn't. I still not and

702
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: I and I listened to them. But that was like

703
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: the same type of thing that Biggie I think went through.

704
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: It's like like he was number one in LA is

705
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: that exactly once?

706
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 5: He was not one there? So he had to be there,

707
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 5: like he didn't have to be there that long. He

708
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 5: could have hit and run, okay, and he's done it before.

709
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 5: He's a professional, so he's done it before. He Hi,

710
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 5: how you doing? See you later?

711
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: And you saying from the time you've seen him.

712
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: And I've seen that. Me and my girlfriend left.

713
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: Wow.

714
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 5: When I saw that, I said, something going to happen. Man,

715
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 5: we you know we're gonna mess up our time here.

716
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 5: I think we need to cut this short and go

717
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 5: back to New York. Because I'm so used to having

718
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 5: a good time in LA, Like I'm ready died with

719
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 5: the I'm with the I'm with the criminals. So how

720
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 5: am I get robbed? I'm with the I'm with the robbers?

721
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 5: How am I get robbed?

722
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: Right?

723
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: People were telling them supposedly before he even went out there.

724
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 3: I think J Prince said that he gave him my

725
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: heads up. He said it on Drink Show. A couple

726
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: of people give him heads up.

727
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 5: How we Tea made me leave? How we how we Tea?

728
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 5: You look rocks DJM Wow. Wow, it's it's too In LA,

729
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 5: you could feel when something's going to happen.

730
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: Damn, you can't see in New York. I'm from there.

731
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: I don't feel nothing. You have it right, you know

732
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: what I mean.

733
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 5: But in LA you could just tell something going to happen,

734
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 5: Like I know the difference between partying having a good time.

735
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: And then not having a good time and something's going

736
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: to happen right, And And to this day it's like

737
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: it's like La.

738
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: It's like a ghost of rappers now, like so many

739
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: things happen to rappers and it's like it's not it

740
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: doesn't even get solved.

741
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 5: I just think they'd be in how could you had

742
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 5: a pocket?

743
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: It's such thing as you had a pocket.

744
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: But it's not just l a because Vegas Park happened

745
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: in Vegas and there's but.

746
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 5: I was late business l a business business. Let's not

747
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 5: let's go nas or j.

748
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. I have to drink. I don't. I don't

749
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: think I need to drink.

750
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 5: I just think that you know, it depends on what

751
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 5: what type of what type of.

752
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: Energy and moved you want? It sounds like a drink

753
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: to me. Man, mm hmm. The o g and you

754
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: ain't supposed to pick that one. Now, this one you're

755
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: definitely gonna drink for. In my opinion, run DMC or

756
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: the locks. That's your lawyer to you that, Yeah, I ain't.

757
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: You gotta take it.

758
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know you.

759
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: Now, I know I know you. I need both. Yes,

760
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: Joe Button or Gilly the Kid, I like the next one.

761
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: You guys are funny. I like I like Gilly because

762
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: Gilly's gonna make me laugh. And Joe. Butden, that's my man.

763
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna buy him.

764
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 5: I'm gonna buy him something, something, something different to put

765
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 5: on his feet. I wasn't ready wasn't something different because

766
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 5: he got a lot of money. So they need to

767
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 5: give need to switch it up. I like Gilly because

768
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 5: Gilly gonna make me laugh. I'm gonna smoke my ship.

769
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 5: He what's the name? Might you know? Joe Button might

770
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 5: find out? Hey, man, I don't like I don't like

771
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: you today, you know what I mean? Gilly gonna like

772
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 5: you just because just because, Okay, I respect a million

773
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 5: dollars worth a game.

774
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: That's right, big both fuck shut up? Pete Rock or Primo.

775
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: I like these questions, by the way, not me.

776
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 5: I like I like both. I like both because they're

777
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 5: both the same ship. But Pete Rock gave me everything,

778
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 5: so I'm gonna go with pr I like that.

779
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: I like k Capri or funk Flex.

780
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 5: I love kid Capri, but funk Flex is my brother. Wow,

781
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 5: so I'm gonna have to go with my brother, all right.

782
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 5: You know we like the muscle cars. That's that's what

783
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 5: we funk with. Yeah, that's right, that's the muscle cars.

784
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: You see that green joint.

785
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 5: He gave me serious that to Reno for to Reno

786
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 5: five hundred, I just put everything new on that joint.

787
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: I forgot you into the cars, into the Yeah I forgot,

788
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: I totally forgot you the Duke Boys and Loop Duke that's.

789
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Brand Nubian or trick quest A brand Nubian.

790
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: Okay, that's right.

791
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 5: I love tribe because my brother's Fife Diddy.

792
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, gotta go rite it or baby Okay? Podcast

793
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: or radio.

794
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 5: I would go podcast now because that's where it's at

795
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 5: and I like to be fashion forward.

796
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: Wu tang or n w a.

797
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: Wu tang because I'm a New Yorker.

798
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: I respect that. Only built for Cuban links, a reasonable.

799
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 5: Doubt, only built for Cuban links, because that's the workout ship.

800
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: Let's connect politic deb.

801
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 5: There you go, Juice or New Jack City, New Jack

802
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 5: City Act?

803
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: Come on now, Gang Star or Eric B and rock him?

804
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: Wow?

805
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: Where the Hennessy White act?

806
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: Though?

807
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: Another shot here? I got. I love that. I love that.

808
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: Rest in peace Guru?

809
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah cool. You know what I thought about recently was

810
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: asked this. There was like, yo, Who's who's one of

811
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: your favorite rappers to drink with? I always forgot to

812
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: mention Guru. You know he was a drinker. He was

813
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: a super drink. Yeah who he was to drink? The

814
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: symphony or don't curse. Don't curse because I was on it.

815
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: That's right.

816
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: God damn, I would have picked that too.

817
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: That's a classic, man, little madic are ready to die?

818
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 5: We can took a shot? Yeah, way too. You know

819
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 5: you got I was trying to pull it out. I

820
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 5: was trying to get get out of come analog or

821
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 5: digital digital, this this. I'm very curious to see. Where're

822
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 5: gonna go with your own TV raps or video music box. Damn,

823
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with video music box

824
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 5: because because Ralph is my guy, and that was that

825
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 5: was a little bit selective. You had to be a

826
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 5: little bit on a certain plane. They be on MTV

827
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 5: raps commercial with Ralph, he serviced everybody way big from

828
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 5: the beginning.

829
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 2: He serviced me when I was big the same way

830
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: I was small. Wow.

831
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 5: Truly covered. He covered it, and he gave me. He's

832
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 5: the He's the reason why I was in their faces.

833
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 5: He kept it playing.

834
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: Did you see the Video Music Box documentary? Yes, I yo,

835
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: that's it is hard is meant to do?

836
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 7: Yeah?

837
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you said you're doing your own. I

838
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 5: would love to do that. I would I would love

839
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 5: to do that. I would love that.

840
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: Hell.

841
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, ice cubeball scar Face, I would do scar Face, Okay, yeah,

842
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 5: like I love ice cube, man, both, I love ice cube.

843
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 5: I mean, if you want me to drink the ice.

844
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: He's he burns out to Scarface. I hope he gets better.

845
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: Oh yes, man, I did. I didn't love scar Face man.

846
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean when they say he was sick again, I

847
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: thought they are sick. I thought they meant from before.

848
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: So he's proud enough again the.

849
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: Hospital and then obviously resting pizzat Man Scoop.

850
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: Oh Man, fat a first promo. Coonaega a first promo.

851
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: That's for fat Man Scoop. He was the first time

852
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: anybody ever heard of Copona Noriega because we were.

853
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: And he was at Tommy Boy.

854
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: I believe that's one. Yeah, I believe. I'm not sure,

855
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: okay man, that deep? Thank you man. House of Pain

856
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: or Cypress.

857
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: Hills, Cypress Hill.

858
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 5: Okay, I love House of Pain, but Cypress Hill Man,

859
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 5: I smoke with him. They smoke them in Red Man's

860
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 5: session is the session.

861
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: To be at? Mm hmm, that's the session.

862
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: Hell, red Man don't smoke no more?

863
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: No, that's is that true?

864
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: With him? He don't smoke? Yeah, unless he's fucking with me,

865
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: he's with you. I think no, I think I think

866
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: he's bungee jumping.

867
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: Now, No, that doesn't mean he doesn't smoke.

868
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's a bungee jumping.

869
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: Come on, man, that's surprised him. Yeah, I think he doesn't.

870
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I think he doesn't. Let's look

871
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: it up. I think that that's why he's doing.

872
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna have this smoke meth smokes. Oh yeah, yeah,

873
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: you g care out cast.

874
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: Yo.

875
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 5: I love outcasts. I would have picked out casts. But

876
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 5: that UGK, that pimpcy Man. I don't know, man, I

877
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 5: just feel like sometimes I'm PIMPC you know what I mean.

878
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 5: I just feel like walking around my house and doing

879
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 5: certain things. I take his cadence, his voice, his the

880
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 5: way he would deliver it.

881
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: I'm PIMPC Man. He said. I would have never thought

882
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: you would have said that like that felt like three thousand.

883
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 5: I'd have told you how if I felt like big boy,

884
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 5: I would have told you I love them. They're my

885
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 5: They're actually as good as my group. I put them

886
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 5: up there with Michael. But that PIMPC Man is He

887
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 5: actually said somebody left too soon and then give you

888
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 5: a chance to get to the finale of who they are,

889
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 5: the point of why they're here.

890
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: He didn't get a chance to get to that part.

891
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: His impact would it would have been serious.

892
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: What do you think about he said that Atlanta is

893
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: not the South. I still don't understand that.

894
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

895
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,959
Speaker 5: He's his name would be pimp if he didn't talk

896
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 5: like that. He said whatever he felt. It wasn't tough.

897
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 5: It was just to the point. You know what I'm saying.

898
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 5: It wasn't tough. It was just it was tough, but

899
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 5: it was. It wasn't tough. It was just a point.

900
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 5: He was actually a good person to you know what

901
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 5: I mean. Yeah, deep, yeah, peace penc common or most death.

902
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 2: I like comment, okay, but most death.

903
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: You know.

904
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: His answers are not answers.

905
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 3: It's like answered.

906
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: But you know I got that. I got that from

907
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: Terrence Crawl into nothing. I learned that. I said, this

908
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: is a skill, this is a.

909
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 5: I don't really have to answer.

910
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 7: He just got to people, I'm trying to hurt you.

911
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,479
Speaker 2: Finish you were saying. I don't know what I was saying. Death.

912
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 5: Good guy. I just like the way he moves. You

913
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 5: know what it is not to get off base, but

914
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take a ride. Okay, if you see these

915
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 5: new rappers, I don't know any of their music.

916
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: They gotta have.

917
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 5: They could have good music, but I'm more interested in

918
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 5: their life than their music. Like what kind of cases

919
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 5: you got, what kind of broad you got, how you

920
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 5: spend your money. I'm more interested in your life than

921
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 5: your music. And the way things are now it's displayed

922
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 5: like that. Now, fast forward back to.

923
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: The brother.

924
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 5: Being trapped in another country and not being able to

925
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 5: come back. And I don't know how true it is,

926
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 5: but that shit scared the ship.

927
00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: Out of me.

928
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 5: I was like, damn man, how you gonna get back

929
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 5: to your kids or how you going to get back

930
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 5: to your life? And he masterminded his way through that

931
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 5: live in Spain. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if he

932
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 5: live on another planet.

933
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 2: He could get away from anybody he got.

934
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: Past, for.

935
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: He's for real. I was scared to death.

936
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: I thought he was.

937
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 5: I didn't think he was gonna come back. I said,

938
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 5: damn man, that's a hostage situation, man.

939
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: But he did. He did it, man, so big him up,

940
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: red man or method man that's the same ship taking

941
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: a shot.

942
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the same ship shot.

943
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 5: You can't even you know, Come on, baby shoppy birthday, man,

944
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 5: that's right, happy birth Yeah, wish that the saki Mama Juana. See,

945
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 5: that's what happens when you're when you're when you're moving

946
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 5: up in the world thinking different.

947
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 2: He's gonna tell you it's moving down.

948
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: And they make that.

949
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: They make that in all it's a it's a humbrew.

950
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: We make that in a tough with person. It's not

951
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: in a tough person's feet and kindle. Don't you don't

952
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: want none of that?

953
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: Great? Yeah? Yeah, literally literally literally next one the far

954
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: sider does effects.

955
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 5: I like that, dos man me to. I tour with them,

956
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I toured with them little

957
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 5: motherfuckers with them dreads. Man. Come on, man, they don't

958
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 5: got dreads no more, though they got seesus. I see them,

959
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 5: see see, I'm it's like going to somebody's funeral and

960
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 5: but you don't want to go because you want to

961
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 5: remember them.

962
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: Like that's my motivation them dreads.

963
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: You know what. Wow, coming out the sewer, we get

964
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: deep that we always wanted to be facts hold on

965
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: all of us yes, no, no, no, and they still

966
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: tear looking on the sidelines, like, what the what we

967
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: got a problem? Okay, the last one for quick time,

968
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: it was lived. Do you get back into the interview?

969
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: Loyalty or respect?

970
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 5: I like respect because respect comes with loyalty.

971
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: That's real. I ain't gonna lie. We don't have to

972
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: take a shot. But that was so great.

973
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm taking serious. That was so

974
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: that queen ship. That's that you make left right.

975
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: Now? This is this is this question. I probably know

976
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: you probably know what's going to come out. Can you

977
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: and Pepe rock straight in it out?

978
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: I think we could, Okay if you keep it business because.

979
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: I heard you say that. I mean he said the

980
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: same thing. He's keeping business. We don't have to have

981
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: any feeling anymore. You just have to have that feeling

982
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: of wanting to win. You're like, plus, yo, man, you

983
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: brought him up.

984
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: They talked about me last week.

985
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: Okay, no, because you know why. You know why, and

986
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: you know why because me as part of being a group, right,

987
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know what it comes with, right.

988
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: So you took care of our whole childhood, you guys together, right, right.

989
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: So we don't.

990
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean, this is me as a fan, This is

991
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: not me as a businessman. As a fan, I feel

992
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 1: like both of y'all can put it to the side

993
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: for the sake of the fans. But I don't know

994
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: really what it was. Was it a business thing? What

995
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: was like? The was the was it? They say, the

996
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: camera on the straw off? Because outside looking at I

997
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: see y'all. I'm looking at the videos. I'm sorry to

998
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: be along with it, but I'm looking at the videos

999
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't.

1000
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: See where it written wrong. It was such a good matchup,

1001
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: it so perfect.

1002
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 1: Now I'm naive now because I don't know the ins

1003
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 1: and outs of this. All I know is how great

1004
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: y'all are together.

1005
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 5: But don't we look at every group like that, like

1006
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 5: why would it be a problem?

1007
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 2: Like why would it be a problem?

1008
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 5: That's that's capone and that's nor Riegle, Right, what's the problem?

1009
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 5: If it works, it works. It's a problem when it

1010
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 5: don't work. But if it works, shouldn't it be easier

1011
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 5: if it worked? Okay, That's how I look at it.

1012
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 5: But I also look at it as we were very

1013
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 5: young men and we came into this game nutty together right,

1014
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 5: So when we came up together, maybe other business pulled

1015
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 5: him in other directions and pulled me in other directions.

1016
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. So at that time, what

1017
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 5: one point I could pick out of it? Instead of

1018
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 5: being picky, one point I could pick at it as

1019
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 5: he can be paid to stay home. I can't. I

1020
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 5: gotta go on the road and get my money as

1021
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 5: the producer. But you're going to pay him to stay home. Now,

1022
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 5: how do I get my money? That's the question, that's

1023
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 5: the million dollar question. How do cl get his money

1024
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 5: if you're keeping him home? And then, on a bonus clip,

1025
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 5: if you got my producer producing other artists while my

1026
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 5: shit is working, then I'm competing against me.

1027
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: And my man is helping. Let's soak that in.

1028
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 5: Let's soak it in because at the end of the day,

1029
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 5: it's not personal, bro, it's business. I want him to

1030
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 5: have what he has. This is his moment. Now what

1031
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 5: about my moment. I'm gonna have to go find my moment.

1032
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to go find it. So it's a

1033
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 5: different chemistry now set than what it was. What's playing

1034
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 5: with it the whole time. Now it's a different chemistry

1035
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 5: set now I gotta come with something else. Why I

1036
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 5: gotta come with something else? When I came in with

1037
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 5: the original shit, I wrote all my shit? Where's my peg?

1038
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna get my shit from James Brown and

1039
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 5: Author Price all and all these other guys. Ohio plays.

1040
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the records I paid for, Sam. How

1041
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 5: do I get my money back? Wow, it's a business.

1042
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 5: I love you, but it's a business. They love you, right,

1043
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 5: but you my business, So I love you different. It's

1044
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 5: my business. I'm gonna feed my man's in there now.

1045
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 5: They's six three and six two, So it don't matter

1046
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 5: no more. I'm free. But at twenty two, twenty four,

1047
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 5: these were my questions, right, So that's what it was.

1048
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 5: Back then, it looked beautiful on the outside.

1049
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it looks so sweet.

1050
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 5: On the outside, it looked, it looked it was a sweetheart.

1051
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 5: It was a it was a cream puff. And on

1052
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 5: the inside it wasn't no butterfly. It was bats.

1053
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: Jesus, it was creatures.

1054
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: Jewish creepers. Because I'm not gonna lie to you as

1055
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: a hip hop.

1056
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: Fan, to hear like I'm gonna be this is one

1057
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: million percent telling them the truth. I was on the

1058
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: internet searching and it said Pete Rock. It goes at

1059
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: see Smooth and it says this is Pete Rock and

1060
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: I would not click on it. I did not want

1061
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: to see it. That's how much y'all.

1062
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 5: It took a long time for me to even respond

1063
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 5: because I'm not. I'm not. I don't like I didn't

1064
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 5: want to click on it, like I don't like drama.

1065
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 5: But see, I know how he is.

1066
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: Now.

1067
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 5: I don't know how he is now. I'm gonna be respectful.

1068
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 5: I don't know how he is now. But yeah, eight

1069
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 5: years something like that. But before that, you could be

1070
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 5: around a person and don't know that. Nigga, Right, you

1071
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Every if you're not evolving, then

1072
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 5: you're not living, You're not gaining, You not, you're not

1073
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 5: earn ain't nothing because you staying the same.

1074
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: All my friends that stayed the same, ain't with me?

1075
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: Right about that?

1076
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 5: Or you change cel sure enough? You into guns and broads.

1077
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 5: I'm into flowers and curtains. I heard you be guarded it.

1078
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 5: We don't want to talk to you.

1079
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: We won't talk.

1080
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 5: And if and if and if it ain't nothing growing

1081
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 5: around you, if ain't nothing that I said, flowers. If

1082
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 5: ain't nothing growing around you, watch his ass, because ain't

1083
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 5: you ain't watering nothing, but you ain't cultivating nothing.

1084
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: Nothing's growing around you. Yeah, that's a problem.

1085
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: So let me ask you because other than me seeing

1086
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,479
Speaker 1: those two skits online, I don't feel like y'all went

1087
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: too far at each other.

1088
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 5: This is a long time ago now it was at

1089
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 5: I don't even feel that way no more because I

1090
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 5: got it out right. I let it build up and

1091
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 5: build up and build up and build up, and then

1092
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 5: I released it. So I don't feel that way about

1093
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 5: him no more. I don't feel that way about anybody.

1094
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 5: I want people to respect me like I respect them.

1095
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 5: But a man can't make you angry. A man is

1096
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 5: gonna make you angry. But how long is he gonna

1097
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 5: make you angry?

1098
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: For?

1099
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 5: I get that, how long you're gonna hold that four

1100
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 5: hundred pound gorell on your back till you release? And

1101
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 5: then are you gonna regret it? Or are you gonna

1102
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 5: stand on it? I like to stand on what I

1103
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 5: believe in, Like my music, you don't have to fake it,

1104
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 5: So why fake it now because you're angry or you happy?

1105
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 5: If i'm happy, I'm gonna show you my happiness. If

1106
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 5: I'm angry, I'm gonna show you I'm angry. But what

1107
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 5: is the solution? Though I'm a solution based nigga, I

1108
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 5: don't deal on emotion. I deal on solution. Do you

1109
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 5: have an answer for it? If you don't have an

1110
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 5: answer for it, then ridiculing me is not going make

1111
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 5: me do the right thing. It's gonna make me question

1112
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 5: your ability to lead me to the bag.

1113
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: What do you think have would say?

1114
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: Knowing?

1115
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: Would I know this is a what's that?

1116
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: What's that? You know?

1117
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: Heaf is a philosopher.

1118
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 5: He was something that have said, God damn, nigga, you

1119
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 5: never got your payday.

1120
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: Yes, it seemed like he would have been a fix

1121
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: he's a fixer.

1122
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 5: But he gave me. He did fix me with that line. Sometimes,

1123
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 5: in order for you to get money, somebody got to

1124
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 5: tell you something. He told me something. God damn, you

1125
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 5: never got your payday.

1126
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 2: So what was you supposed to do? Sit there and wallow.

1127
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 5: No, you're supposed to take whatever money you got and

1128
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 5: go make it your payday, put it into something else,

1129
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 5: Go buy something, flip it, go get some land and

1130
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,959
Speaker 5: sit on it. Nobody got to know what you're doing

1131
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 5: as long as you ain't out here searching for the answers.

1132
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 3: Can I ask you talking about you never got your

1133
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 3: payday and going back to what you said about the samples.

1134
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 2: It has to do with the samples, the sample clearance,

1135
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: that's all.

1136
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 5: A part of what I'm saying is it has nothing

1137
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 5: to do with my payday.

1138
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: It has to do with business.

1139
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 5: If I'm paying for samples and I'm sitting home still,

1140
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 5: why am I paying for samples?

1141
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: So it does have to do with paying for No, No.

1142
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say it again, if I'm paying for samples,

1143
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 5: like we're partners in this. Oh, I get it, now,

1144
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 5: we're partners in this. We got a bill here, right,

1145
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 5: I don't come with that bill. If I came with

1146
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 5: that bill, it would say, and they see, why OG

1147
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 5: cush my car, my new car because I gotta go

1148
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 5: to this studio with a new car.

1149
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: That's right, God damn yeah, How am I gonna feel this?

1150
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: If I don't have a new car, you gotta buy

1151
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 2: two of me?

1152
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 5: I gotta, yes, come on, So so we got a budget,

1153
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 5: worked like you got a budget. So now nothing else matters,

1154
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 5: but this project nothing else. So I know when I

1155
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 5: pay this, I'm gonna go on the road and get

1156
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 5: my money back. That's like when a nigga go re up,

1157
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 5: he going out on the block to get his money back.

1158
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 5: I'm not paying for nothing and I can't get my

1159
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 5: money back. Come on, how am I gonna be a

1160
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 5: good partner you there? How am I going to be

1161
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 5: a good businessman for you if I don't get my

1162
01:03:54,280 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 5: money back? So, no, we never got our paydaby, because

1163
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 5: we never worked it out.

1164
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: So what have said? That's you?

1165
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 5: He meant you, And before he died he said, Yo,

1166
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 5: I'm just so hurt that you never y'all niggas never

1167
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 5: worked it out to get your payday. You know, y'r

1168
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 5: niggas never worked it out to say, Hey, fuck all

1169
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 5: that right, let's get work, let's go, you know, work.

1170
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 5: I'm not asking for you to be my brother, no more.

1171
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 5: I'm not asking you to be my friend. I'm asking

1172
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 5: you to work, right, just work, just just work. And

1173
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 5: I'm not asking you to necessarily do it for me

1174
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 5: Because now I understand. I understand that the fans gave

1175
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 5: us a lot. We owe him. They bought a couple

1176
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 5: of houses, a couple of cars for us they bought.

1177
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 5: They gave us a few budgets, like, so can't you

1178
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 5: just give them something back, like just.

1179
01:04:59,400 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: Getting something.

1180
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to say. Yo.

1181
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 5: Now we're gonna have tea together every Tuesday. Let me

1182
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 5: love you from afar. Now, I love in the space

1183
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 5: you at will come and I love it because that

1184
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 5: means you in a good mood. You're in a good space. Okay,

1185
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 5: take my good space and come to your good space.

1186
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 5: And let's give something back to the to the culture.

1187
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 5: Not because I'm pleasing you and you're pleasing me, because

1188
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 5: the fans want that, right they do.

1189
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, coming from from an era that

1190
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm a part of, right, meaning like almost analogue, right

1191
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: where the records have to be made together. Right, let'spost

1192
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: peak tomorrow, says Yeah, I'm gonna send you ten beats. Right.

1193
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: Would you want to record those beats with him in

1194
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: the studio or would you want to stay in the

1195
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: confinement of your own.

1196
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 5: Place, whatever makes him comfortable, Because I'm prepared to.

1197
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 2: Do what's better. It's the project done.

1198
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 5: Whatever I'm flipping you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you

1199
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do what needs to be done. Because I

1200
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 5: told you my ego was out the door. I'm ready

1201
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 5: to be strong. Fine ego and tough don't mean strong.

1202
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 5: It don't equite strong. Bad association spoils useful habits. So

1203
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 5: I'm not coming with a bunch of niggas to prove

1204
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 5: to you I'm strong. I'm coming to you by myself

1205
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 5: to prove that you am intelligent enough to get it

1206
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 5: the job done. That's the only thing that matter, because

1207
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 5: you ain't gonna be looking at me if the job

1208
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 5: don't get done. You ain't gonna look at me. You're

1209
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 5: gonna look at me when it gets done. And you say, yo,

1210
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 5: where you get that drill from? Where you get that

1211
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 5: hammer from? Where you get that nail? From here? Because

1212
01:06:53,680 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 5: I put it together because there's no simple clearance.

1213
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm just being honest, even me hearing your voice,

1214
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: like I could just say, I'm just a fan of it.

1215
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1216
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 2: I just sounds just like the records I love to add.

1217
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a very naive person. I realized that,

1218
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: like I realized that, like Reby Mad laughed at me

1219
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: when I told her, I was like, yo, I think

1220
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: I want a Terror Squad Reunion.

1221
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: She was like, you mean the Terror Squad and.

1222
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: I was like yeah.

1223
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 2: She laughed so hard. I was like, I didn't realize

1224
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: how gullible I was. But I want that. I wanted

1225
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: the last album by you and Pete.

1226
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And again I tried to

1227
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: not get into, you know, the personals because I don't

1228
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: really know.

1229
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to get into them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1230
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 5: I don't want to be personal because I got my

1231
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 5: own personal business, right, so I don't want to be personal.

1232
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 5: I just want to do business if if it's healthy.

1233
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 5: If it's not healthy for him, then okay, I can

1234
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 5: understand that.

1235
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: Then you's telling me I'm not ready for it.

1236
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 5: I'm ready for anything that's going to close the chapter

1237
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 5: that's going, that's going keep it, taking off this question

1238
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 5: mark and put it on a closure.

1239
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 2: We close that book with yeah, no more underline.

1240
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: So in your opinion, what do you think it's stopping

1241
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: him from doing that? In your opinion, like I said,

1242
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: we can't speak for him, but.

1243
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 2: Certain things you can't have an opinion on.

1244
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 5: Certain things you can't think about if you're going to

1245
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 5: do it, if you're really gonna do it, nor you

1246
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 5: can't think about him, you gotta think about it. I'm

1247
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 5: gonna think about you when you come to me with it.

1248
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 5: When you don't come to me with it, I'm not

1249
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 5: thinking about you. I'm happy for you because you in

1250
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 5: a good space, because I don't want you coming into

1251
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 5: my space messing it up. When you when you trail blaze,

1252
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 5: that makes my road easier. When you don't trail blaze,

1253
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 5: then that makes my road harder. So you don't have

1254
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:21,520
Speaker 5: to be together in life. You together in life, spiritually

1255
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 5: you together. You might not be down with each other

1256
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 5: or like each other, but in the fans' eyes you together.

1257
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 2: You one thing. Y'all just doing your own thing.

1258
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 5: But I was always taught in business, give them your

1259
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 5: best sell give them, give them your best product. Don't

1260
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 5: hold it five years from now and think they're gonna

1261
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 5: it's gonna be worth that. Don't give it me ten

1262
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 5: years from now and think that I could jump like that. Nah,

1263
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 5: there's only a certain space you could jump like that

1264
01:09:56,160 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 5: and work like that and real realistically in the book

1265
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 5: of life, it's closing because we in a black culture

1266
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 5: with the door closes quick.

1267
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: Do you understand only the only the smart.

1268
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 5: See, you can be tough halfway, but then how do

1269
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 5: you get to the finish line? Being smart? You understand.

1270
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 5: So if your life ain't good, how your career gonna

1271
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 5: be good. Your life gotta be good now for you

1272
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 5: to make your career good. So anything you do, you

1273
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 5: loving it. But when you when you got a nagging

1274
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 5: wife and your kids is hungry and your grandkid don't

1275
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 5: know where it's coming from.

1276
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 2: Then you don't.

1277
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 5: You ain't got you ain't you ain't part. You don't

1278
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 5: got the wheel. I got the wheel, bro, I got

1279
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 5: the table. I got the table right now. So in

1280
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 5: my world, in my life, I feel like my private

1281
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,759
Speaker 5: life is way more to resting in my career because

1282
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 5: I'm into it because that's what's going to hold up

1283
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 5: my career. If I got to look at my career

1284
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 5: to feed it then And no, you need your moves, bro,

1285
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 5: your moves to love him and respect him for what

1286
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 5: he gave you. Because you're different. Why you're gonna be

1287
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 5: mad at him? Because he different? Everybody different? You know

1288
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Treat people like you want to be treated, though,

1289
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 5: I'm serious, because it's too too many people dying for nothing,

1290
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 5: too many people getting hurt for nothing, and I'm saying,

1291
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 5: you got a bag and you still hanging with homie

1292
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 5: who wants you to die, who wants you.

1293
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: To not live.

1294
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 5: He want to unlive you unless you pay him. You

1295
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. See, my life is pure, my life.

1296
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 5: I didn't get to these age lucky. I got to

1297
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 5: this age strategically because I don't put myself around good

1298
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 5: and bad.

1299
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't all good and what isn't all bad?

1300
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: That's real? So let me ask, right, because I don't

1301
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: know if I heard this recently. It was a rumor that,

1302
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: like you know, Eric Being rock Him Rock the first

1303
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: album that they dropped Eric Being Rock Him. I believe

1304
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 1: all of the monies went to Eric and then it

1305
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: was supposed to some shit like that, right where like

1306
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: that's the reason why you don't have no more Eric

1307
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: Being Rock Him albums because one budget went to one

1308
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: and when it came time for the other time to

1309
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: be to get the budget, there wasn't to be found.

1310
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 1: That's just the rumor. I have no facts of that.

1311
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: It was was that the part of the breakup was

1312
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: it my money. Never had problem with money?

1313
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 5: Wow, yo, Never one time did I have problem with

1314
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 5: money with him. Wow, I could, I could think of something,

1315
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 5: and I could think of one thing, but it ain't.

1316
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 5: It's petty. Wow, it's petty, and it's only going to

1317
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 5: open up a door. No, no, no, no, no, no,

1318
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 5: it's never been because we're on different levels of things

1319
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 5: when it comes to these women.

1320
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He was married a majority

1321
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: of the time.

1322
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 5: Okay, he was out there. I was strategic with so

1323
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 5: it was going to take a certain type of woman

1324
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 5: to bring me to where I want to go as

1325
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 5: a man, and that's what I got. But you know

1326
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, right, So, yeah, we were living two

1327
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 5: different lives, but parallel to where we gotta go to

1328
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 5: get to where we need to get to get peace

1329
01:13:55,479 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 5: and tranquility, because a lot of times money is not

1330
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 5: the happiness.

1331
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 2: It's not. It's good to have when you want.

1332
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 5: To get problems out the way and fight wars. That's

1333
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 5: the only thing it's for. It's not for nothing else.

1334
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 5: It's not to dress up and be cute. It's to

1335
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 5: fight wars and make sure my family and my table

1336
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 5: and my wheel is turning.

1337
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 2: That's it.

1338
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 5: I don't need nothing else because I'm at a level

1339
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 5: where I just want to create. I just want to

1340
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 5: ride my muscle car. I'm an introvert. I don't really

1341
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 5: need a lot of company, you know what I'm saying.

1342
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 5: I don't need a lot of validation. I just want

1343
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 5: everybody to be good. When I see you eating, when

1344
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 5: I see your button eating, when I see Gilly the

1345
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 5: Kid eating, when I see these people eating, I'm happy

1346
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:59,440
Speaker 5: because that's one less nigga with a gun.

1347
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: Right.

1348
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 5: We don't need it because there's so much violence in

1349
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:09,799
Speaker 5: this culture now.

1350
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 2: And that Biggie poc ship is like.

1351
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 5: A acorn, and this ship is like a boulder, and

1352
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 5: our ship is like a little acorn. Now, I'm talking

1353
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 5: about how the culture is nor where death is a

1354
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 5: part part of the culture now of it. Now what

1355
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 5: I don't know none of your music, but I know

1356
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 5: you're in Rikers Island, right, I know you got seven

1357
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 5: eight million dollars and you on Rikers Island.

1358
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: That is blowing my mind.

1359
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: I thought we were doing it to get out, get out,

1360
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 1: make the money, and get out. They make the money,

1361
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: run it in. Yeah, you're right, You're right.

1362
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 2: I don't but somebody is making the money.

1363
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 3: Do you ever buy into the concept of the theory

1364
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 3: that Ice Cuban. A couple of people have said about

1365
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 3: the private prisons and the record labels being in kohoops

1366
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 3: with each other.

1367
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 2: I wouldn't listen. It seems like what.

1368
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 5: I wouldn't doubt it when I know that these millionaires,

1369
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 5: most of their investments are a prison. If I'm a billionaire,

1370
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 5: I got a prison. How am I not going to

1371
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 5: have a militia in an army and don't have a prison.

1372
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 2: Come on, bro, Even even Pablo had a prison.

1373
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 3: That he can imprisoned himself and he got out of himself.

1374
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: Iblo had a prison.

1375
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 5: Bro. Money could do a lot of things. That don't

1376
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 5: mean you're gonna do the right thing with it. Well,

1377
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 5: you could have a lot of money and do the

1378
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 5: wrong thing with it and sustain it because that's your thing,

1379
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 5: that's your mentality, that's your mind.

1380
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 2: My thing is peace on earth because my people need it.

1381
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 5: Like they just had a meeting in la which got

1382
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 5: nothing to do with a New Yorker, but I respect

1383
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 5: it because it's black business.

1384
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: Y g.

1385
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 2: He did the peace walk. After that, they did the

1386
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 2: crypts did the.

1387
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 5: Sixties and all the way from the forties year because

1388
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 5: I'm a historian of black people.

1389
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm a historian of black culture.

1390
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 5: Like one of my idols is a cryp from when

1391
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 5: I was a young kid, og Turtle. But I don't

1392
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 5: say anything because I get what I get out of it,

1393
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 5: and that's his hustle, his vision, his mentality, his swag.

1394
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 5: I'm a New Yorker. I love swag that attracts me.

1395
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 5: So I love this cause I loved his being. I

1396
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 5: loved his the way he functioned. He was a high

1397
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 5: function in person. So a lot of people don't know.

1398
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 5: I'm a world I think for the world. I don't

1399
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 5: think like a hood nigga no more. I think like

1400
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:11,520
Speaker 5: the world. In all the world, there's hood niggas in it. Absolutely,

1401
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. There's nothing but hood niggas

1402
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 5: in it. I learned that in Paris.

1403
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1404
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 5: It's hood niggas everywhere. This hood is speaking all types

1405
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 5: of shit.

1406
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: Take hood.

1407
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, And you'll calm down by

1408
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 5: force or by relation, it's however you want to do it.

1409
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 5: But in my heart, I love I know how important

1410
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 5: it is for the black man to have peace in

1411
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 5: his life, have some direction, and purpose, because it's ten

1412
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 5: times harder for us, it's ten times harder for a

1413
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 5: Spanish man. It's ten times harder. If I was white,

1414
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 5: I'd be in the stratosphere with what I wrote. I

1415
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 5: thought about that a year ago. I said, if a

1416
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 5: white man wrote Reminisce, Wow, Wow, what.

1417
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 2: Would he have?

1418
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 5: He'd have ten times more than what Corey pingut. How

1419
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 5: it's big. It's big. What the plight of a man

1420
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 5: has to go through when he's colored? And it's all

1421
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 5: over the world. I didn't listen. I grew up in

1422
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 5: New York, the Old New York, the New New York.

1423
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 5: I'm not a fan of the only thing I'm a

1424
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 5: fan of is everything is right there. I don't got

1425
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 5: to walk nowhere. Everything when I go outside is right there.

1426
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 5: The Jordan's is right there, the underwears is right there,

1427
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 5: the T shirts is right there, the socks is right there.

1428
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: In the restaurant might be a mile away, but I

1429
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 2: could walk. Can you walk? Can you walk?

1430
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 5: I done got all types of money, and niggas can't walk.

1431
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 5: I don't understand it. You mean you can't walk in

1432
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 5: this jungle?

1433
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: No more? Then you don't need to be in this jungle.

1434
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 2: No more.

1435
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 5: That's why I got money to walk into jungle, not

1436
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 5: to have some dude will hold my hand in it

1437
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 5: or need security to walk in the shit that I

1438
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 5: walked in when I was nutted. No, it should be

1439
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 5: the opposite. I'm more powerful now with money. Why can't

1440
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 5: I walk in it. I'm gonna walk in it with nothing.

1441
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 5: If I gotta wear the same clothes, they gotta wear

1442
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 5: it too. I'm a blending it, but I'm gonna be walking.

1443
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 5: I'm not paying nobody to check in and do this

1444
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 5: and do that.

1445
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: That's not my culture. That's not how I grew up.

1446
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 5: I don't go by rules. I go buy morals and standard.

1447
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna ask you a question. It's gonna sound cliche,

1448
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: but did you ever think that hip hop would go

1449
01:20:58,360 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: this far?

1450
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 2: No?

1451
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 5: No, I now say, And now that it's far, it's dangerous.

1452
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 5: Now that it's far, and with making the money that

1453
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 5: we always wanted to make you die you, how is

1454
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 5: it possible for you to win?

1455
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: Now? They made it impossible for you to win? Hold on?

1456
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 2: You mean, first I get the deal.

1457
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 5: Then when I get the deal, the first thing I'm

1458
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 5: gonna do in this climate is I'm gonna pay no

1459
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 5: allitment twenty thirty grand criminal attorney. So when I go

1460
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 5: to I get right out right, I get right out.

1461
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 5: You know that queen shit, get right out. That's how

1462
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 5: you know you got money, right, Because if it's sitting

1463
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 5: in the shoe box.

1464
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 2: The lawyer can't get that.

1465
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 5: When I got money, the one hundred thousand dollars check,

1466
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 5: thirty of that is going towards the criminal lawyer, because

1467
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 5: I know hanging with criminals.

1468
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: I'm not hanging with nothing else. I'm hanging with criminals.

1469
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 5: So criminals gonna do with now when I give him that,

1470
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 5: when I hit him off, I'm gonna be blamed for

1471
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 5: them guns. I'm gonna be blamed for them drugs. I'm

1472
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 5: gonna be blamed for that. Why because I gave it

1473
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 5: to him. They can't do what I do, but they

1474
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 5: gotta make a living. But I supply them. Now I'm

1475
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 5: in trouble. Now, if it's more than three or four

1476
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 5: of them they got.

1477
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 2: I'm in the soup. I'm in the rico.

1478
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 5: Because now I didn't take my mom and daddy and

1479
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 5: me and sell drugs. No, I took three or four

1480
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 5: of my friends and I stayed out of it.

1481
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 2: But I'm the I'm the I'm the financier.

1482
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 5: Come on, bro, now I'm going to jail again now

1483
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 5: to keep that ship, I gotta kill you, yep, I gotta,

1484
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 5: I gotta, I gotta. I gotta kill you. And to

1485
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 5: protect him, I gotta kill you too, because he ain't

1486
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 5: killing nothing. He too busy rapping, be too busy getting

1487
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 5: the bag. He is heavy. Happy birthday.

1488
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 1: Yest's heavy because so let me Uh. The rap game

1489
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: has been beautiful to me, very right, but it's also

1490
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: been harsh, right because it's like life, right, yes, very

1491
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 1: much like life. And I remember me entering rap game

1492
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: and I do this to this day. Like a lot

1493
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: of people say, I don't work for free, right, but

1494
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: if it's something I.

1495
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 2: Love, I'll do it. Right.

1496
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: When was the moment that you was like, damn, because

1497
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 1: I heard you say earlier you said, this is business. Yeah,

1498
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: because we all love the rap. If you're a rapper,

1499
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: you just love the rap, right, it's just in you.

1500
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: You love to be artistic, right, right. But then there's

1501
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: a point where you're like, yo, this is a business.

1502
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: Like for me, I'm gonna tell you the truth. I

1503
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 1: was running around doing features and just doing it and

1504
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: Pun was like, do you know that people pay for this?

1505
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know that you get paid for a feature

1506
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: and Pun told me that. So that was kind of

1507
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: like my moment where business struck me and I was like,

1508
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: you know what, Holy shit, I'm not here to make

1509
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: friends with these people. I'm here to do business. So

1510
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 1: that was my moment. When was your moment when you

1511
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: was like, yo, this like this is this is this

1512
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: is my art, this is my job, this is my career,

1513
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 1: like Whoenmen's that moment where you had because you know,

1514
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: we were all young. And then so women's the moment where.

1515
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 5: When I sat in the meeting and it wasn't talking

1516
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 5: about me in my future, oh elaborate, when they were

1517
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 5: talking about what my producers producing and not what I'm

1518
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 5: producing and not where I'm going. Oh wow, so it's

1519
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 5: a record label. Yeah, okay, we label electric Electric.

1520
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: Wrong.

1521
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sitting there with having a meeting with her,

1522
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 5: but we're not talking about me, We're talking about him.

1523
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

1524
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 3: So just to make sense of it, You're you're in

1525
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 3: a meeting about Pete Rock and steals food, but I'm

1526
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 3: taking it.

1527
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 2: About mecking a soul brother. Yeah, okay, the group.

1528
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, because now we're getting into we're not with Bob

1529
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 5: Cras now, no more.

1530
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 2: We with Sylvia wrong wrong, a black woman, yeah, strong

1531
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 2: black woman.

1532
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 1: Right right?

1533
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 2: And she needed all that strength and then get it.

1534
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 2: I needed it.

1535
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: Wow.

1536
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 5: Listen, I got a mom, I got I got a grandma.

1537
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 5: I told you about it. I got great aunts, all right,

1538
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 5: I got cousins that are like aunts.

1539
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 2: And you say you're looking at Sylvia.

1540
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 5: You're like looking at her like, okay, if this white

1541
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 5: man is gonna give me all this money, imagine.

1542
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 2: What she gonna give me.

1543
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 5: Good point. Now we're human. Now you can be wrong.

1544
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 5: You could be blocking up the wrong tree. You understand, yes,

1545
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 5: I do.

1546
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 1: So you were wrong. You said it was wrong.

1547
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 2: I was wrong.

1548
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 5: I was totally out of the loop and I was expendable.

1549
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 2: Because you gotta work.

1550
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 3: Hold on.

1551
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 1: Let me just say something because right now we're going

1552
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 1: to the president. Would think and yes, so you're saying

1553
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:40,879
Speaker 1: your voting for con.

1554
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 2: Saying I should have been shot, and let me get

1555
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 2: a set. My god, I don't know what's going on.

1556
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 2: Your here's your talking.

1557
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: You will talk.

1558
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 2: I ain't come here.

1559
01:26:55,080 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 5: I'm leaving, okay, I got no thing against them because

1560
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 5: I'm self made.

1561
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 2: You didn't give it to me like he was supposed to.

1562
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: But you're saying, when Sylvia Room, you got this, they

1563
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: get no money.

1564
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 5: I got let loose. I was expendable because I felt

1565
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 5: I could be wrong. Like I said, I came in

1566
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 5: all wrong. I came in with the wrong attitude because

1567
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 5: I was a young nigga expecting this. And then when

1568
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 5: I came in here and expect that, why am I here?

1569
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 5: So listen, as a young man, I acted that way.

1570
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 5: Do I blame him?

1571
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 1: No?

1572
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 5: Because you're only twenty five for a little bit, right, Okay,

1573
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 5: now I'm this way. I'm gonna handle it different because

1574
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 5: I'm wiser, I'm older. But back then, I wasn't trying

1575
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 5: to hear that, Like, what do you mean I'm expendable?

1576
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 2: How does this?

1577
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 5: So you're taking his groups and you're saying that's more

1578
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 5: important than his group?

1579
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 2: So with my shit. See, we don't know that they

1580
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 2: literally told you that.

1581
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 5: Listen, we're only here to talk to inside of shit,

1582
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 5: not the outside of shit.

1583
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: But did they tell you that that you were expendable

1584
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 2: like that?

1585
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 3: Oh?

1586
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 2: They showed me in this game. They don't tell you.

1587
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 5: They show you you expendable, you don't mean nothing because

1588
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 5: they feel if I gave him.

1589
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 2: Listen, you ain't give me no money.

1590
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 5: If you gave him some money, then you expect him

1591
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 5: to do what you want him to do. But you

1592
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 5: didn't give me no money, and you didn't ask him

1593
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 5: when you gave him that money. Do I have anything

1594
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 5: to do with the success of what he's doing? So

1595
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:41,560
Speaker 5: where's my money? That's business. That's not thinking like a

1596
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 5: person that money hungry. Why am I here in this

1597
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 5: building when I could be on the corner smoking reefer

1598
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 5: in shooting dice. Why am I here when I could

1599
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 5: be in front of my business smoking reefer and shooting

1600
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 5: dice over there too. Come on, give me something that

1601
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 5: I don't have. That's business.

1602
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, right because I had Leo

1603
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: Cohn's here and I had to ask Leo Cohns straight up.

1604
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: I was like, do you think you are the reason

1605
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: why Rockefeller broke up? Do you think the reason you

1606
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: and Pete is going through whatever y'are going through is

1607
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: because of the record label and not be it's not

1608
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 1: a director.

1609
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 5: It's partly the blame because if you're going to give

1610
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 5: somebody some money on the side to stay home, to

1611
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 5: do my money is to go on the roll. If

1612
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 5: he's not going to duck, yeah, then it's a duck.

1613
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 5: Come on, Why we gotta go there? I just want

1614
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 5: some money and get out of this building, right right.

1615
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 5: Let me fulfill six whatever you got on the table,

1616
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 5: and I'm out because I asked Bob kras Now for

1617
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 5: this and he gave it till he was select records.

1618
01:29:54,280 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 5: Who is Bob Bob kras Now? And what's the Spanish

1619
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,799
Speaker 5: dude's name? Ruben?

1620
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 1: Not Rick Rubin. Obviously you're not talking about jelly Bean.

1621
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 5: There's another Spanish dude, and I feel embarrassed that I

1622
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 5: forgot his name. I almost think he took me to

1623
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 5: dinner with Teddy Pendergrass. Yeah, man, he took me to

1624
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 5: dinner with Teddy Pendergrass. And I can't remember his name

1625
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 5: because I'm drinking on drinking. Who is after Bob kras

1626
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 5: Now at Electra?

1627
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, but no, it was a Spanisher. He learned English,

1628
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 7: some guy he blamed learning English, right, and gave ship

1629
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 7: some money?

1630
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 2: Come on, man, so damn gave me a lot of money, man, damn.

1631
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:57,759
Speaker 5: And and Daunte Ross got some checks. Daunte Ross cuts

1632
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 5: some checks and I love Dante. We needn't shell Be

1633
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 5: need Shelby, need big publicists. That ship is so strong

1634
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 5: I can smell it here. Ship yees, come on, I'll

1635
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 5: be on my porch with the Hennessy.

1636
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:15,679
Speaker 1: But this is how I know you're a Caribbean nigga,

1637
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: because you're drinking Hennessy Wright.

1638
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 2: That's that's the only Caribbean on vacation every day. I'm alive.

1639
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 1: That was the correct Oh my god.

1640
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, So God comes down right right and God said, see,

1641
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 9: I want you to make one record, and you got

1642
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 9: one producer to pick to save humanity, any type of

1643
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 9: record you're gonna make, and you get one feature.

1644
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 1: God asked you that, and what producer would you pick?

1645
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 1: And what artists would you pick?

1646
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 2: All time?

1647
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: They could be dead alive anything producing an artists.

1648
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 5: Me and Nas is going to Primo House, you and Nas.

1649
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 5: Me and Nas are going to Primo the Premier House. Yeah,

1650
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 5: we're going to Premiers. Holy shit, we're going to write

1651
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 5: over there and make some of that walk that big ball.

1652
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 5: I can see like that's like run DMC. That's like

1653
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 5: changing your life. See, I want to do things that

1654
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 5: change your life. You know what I'm saying, old, young,

1655
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 5: middle to change your life. Make a move because we're

1656
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,719
Speaker 5: only here on earth for a little while, so why

1657
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 5: not make the move because we're gonna be up there shining.

1658
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 2: Make the move.

1659
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 1: I can hear this record, make the move here, last

1660
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: record I would have loved. You know.

1661
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 5: That's the only thing I'm mad at Pete Rock about

1662
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 5: is that we didn't make a record with Nas.

1663
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 2: And he was willing to do that.

1664
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 5: Nas was willing to He was willing to do that

1665
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 5: on one condition that you get back together.

1666
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 1: Nah, don't say this, No, no, say what I told

1667
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: you first.

1668
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 2: Please look look there's the book.

1669
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 3: That business model right here, the business model for you,

1670
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 3: the documentary Mass Appeal produces it. All that sim we'll

1671
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,839
Speaker 3: get back together and do a record on Mass Appeal.

1672
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 2: Oh that's so dope. That's so dope. I like business

1673
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 2: like that. That's so dope. Doesn't even take.

1674
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 5: Me out of mind, my ship, because you know what's

1675
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 5: so dope about this is we had Nas on here,

1676
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 5: right And I asked Nas a question, have anybody ever

1677
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 5: fronted on you?

1678
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 2: And now I said, yes, Prince fronted on me.

1679
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 1: Because Prince said he wouldn't do a record with me

1680
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: because he didn't own He didn't own his own mask.

1681
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 1: This is, by the way, I have no facts on

1682
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: this other than what I said the importance of these records.

1683
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 1: So you know, let me tell you something that is

1684
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 1: so dope up now to go in his inner childhood

1685
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 1: and say, I'll do the record with y'all like this, but.

1686
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna get back again, gotta get back together.

1687
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: That's dope, bro.

1688
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna be a part of that.

1689
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 5: Yes, you know he really want to do and I

1690
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 5: respect that what I really want to do, yes, Like

1691
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 5: I know that's your business, yes, but I know what

1692
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,719
Speaker 5: I really want to do, right, So I respected that

1693
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 5: and that's I do too, and me I do too

1694
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 5: that that was bigger than just doing the record showing

1695
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 5: me something, Yeah, because I mean because I just literally

1696
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 5: love you. I love it like this though, you know

1697
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 5: what I mean. Don't give me the don't give me

1698
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 5: the burger without the bun, just give me the pun.

1699
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 1: He low call died. He ain't on a low call die.

1700
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something just in case you

1701
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: don't know. And I try to tell it to Pete.

1702
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell it to you. Your brother's really

1703
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: changed probably everybody in this room life. And sometimes you

1704
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 1: know when a thing is outdone, I know how it is.

1705
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 1: You don't want to revisit certain certain things sometimes. But

1706
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 1: to people in this room, fans, people that support your movement,

1707
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 1: that's something that we really really, really really really want.

1708
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 1: And I, like I said, I've been searching you so much,

1709
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 1: and I can see your militant your militant mind statements

1710
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 1: like Yo, we don't even gotta be in Like whatever,

1711
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: you can send me the beat, let's get this guest,

1712
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 1: let's give it to the fans. Yeah, what makes you comfortable?

1713
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,759
Speaker 1: And I like that whatever you love, I can adapt

1714
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 1: to see. It's all about adaptation.

1715
01:35:59,040 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

1716
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 5: If if I can't adapt and I can't see, I'm

1717
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 5: a firm believer in being uncomfortable to get comfortable. I'm

1718
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 5: a firm believer in that because if you're not ready

1719
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 5: to work under hostile conditions, then you can't work period.

1720
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 5: So you just delay in the process of failure. Because

1721
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 5: you can't work under hostile conditions. You can't work when

1722
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 5: it ain't in your favor, when when the when the

1723
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 5: percentages are tilted, you ain't showing. Oh, I could work

1724
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 5: around that, because little small things make big things.

1725
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 2: Little small things add up to big things.

1726
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 5: But if you're not willing to only do big and

1727
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 5: not do small, then you ain't gonna have nothing. I

1728
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 5: know that in business because it's a chemistry set. In business,

1729
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 5: it's a chemistry set. But it's also based on who

1730
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 5: you are and what you want are you Are you

1731
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 5: a functioning, high quality function in person or are you

1732
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 5: low functioning?

1733
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 2: It depends on what you want to do.

1734
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: So the friendship stopped? What was the point where or

1735
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 1: did it? Did the friend What was the point where

1736
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 1: you and peace friendship stopped?

1737
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 2: Because like I feel like I feel like.

1738
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 5: I feel like our friendship is it's a friendship that's

1739
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 5: fractured but keeps going.

1740
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 2: It's it's something that like.

1741
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 5: I can get rid of any other friend, but you

1742
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like like I could get

1743
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:51,719
Speaker 5: rid of any other friend, but you you my friend.

1744
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1745
01:37:53,479 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 5: Like like that, but I could get rid of anybody,

1746
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 5: but you, And I know I know for sure one

1747
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 5: thing for certain, two things you.

1748
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 2: Can't get rid of me. I understand you so much.

1749
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 5: You listen, I understand we got We always will have

1750
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 5: a common knowlogy, even though we think different. We're gonna

1751
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 5: have a common knowlogy because in life's plight, you are

1752
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 5: my brother.

1753
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 2: I could see all day.

1754
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 5: You ain't my brother, You ain't my friend. You ain't

1755
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 5: nothing to me. I got my own money. You ain't

1756
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:37,759
Speaker 5: buy my house, you ain't buy my cars? What bank account?

1757
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 5: I'm a hunt. I'm well over with the what you

1758
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:46,600
Speaker 5: gave me. But that's not what the people feel. Fuck you,

1759
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 5: that's not what the people feel. The people feel. You

1760
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 5: guys are brothers. You how much money do you got

1761
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 5: because you came in here? Nutty? So what you mean

1762
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,600
Speaker 5: you bigger with the money or without the money? You

1763
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 5: make right decisions with money or without money? No, I

1764
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 5: make the right decision period because I'm a man, not

1765
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 5: because I got money. Because I'm a man and I

1766
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 5: done set it up to be a man. Look, many

1767
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 5: motherfuckers ain't no man. I mean they ain't no man.

1768
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:21,559
Speaker 1: There's a lot of not man.

1769
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm paying the penalty for being a man,

1770
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 5: a man's man.

1771
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 2: How much that cost?

1772
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 5: You got to go through something to make the money

1773
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 5: stay right?

1774
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1775
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yo, that's it is.

1776
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 5: So it's like because we twins, and in life, they're

1777
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 5: not gonna get what a person thinks. There's always gonna

1778
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 5: be people that got more money than me, as much

1779
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 5: money than me, and less money than me. As long

1780
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 5: as I'm breathing, I'm not keeping the that I'm keeping

1781
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 5: account of my moves. Do you understand, because when the

1782
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 5: pandemic was here, I was living in my shoe box.

1783
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 5: Hip hop wasn't earning nothing, and I was just having

1784
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 5: things that I already paid for that wasn't struggling. My

1785
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 5: house is done, my shit is done. All I gotta

1786
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 5: do is maintain. I'm past the stage of struggling. It's

1787
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 5: about your moves now. If you make the wrong move,

1788
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 5: you're gonna struggle, You're gonna be hurt. But if you

1789
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 5: got the right foundation and you got the wheel, you

1790
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 5: know what it is. You know what it is to

1791
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 5: move that wheel and how what the results are going

1792
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 5: to be. Because the love gotta be there. The love

1793
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 5: gotta be there. Man, You gotta love what you do.

1794
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 5: You can't fake what you do. You can't be fake

1795
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 5: because at some point you're gonna explode.

1796
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to do this now more. I'm sick

1797
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:06,560
Speaker 2: of Yeah, yeah, you're you're losing it. You're out of

1798
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 2: your character.

1799
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 1: So you got the whole album dropping with Peter Guns.

1800
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, my man, The Odd Couple, ain't it odd?

1801
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 1: I always wanted, by the way, I'm jealous of you

1802
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 1: because I always wanted to use that. That ain't all

1803
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,839
Speaker 1: because I know, you know, I've seen The Odd Couple,

1804
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 1: the actual TV show. I've seen it, So I always

1805
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 1: wanted to use that for a title, and y'all beat

1806
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:34,799
Speaker 1: me to it. So you're like, skin, it's a volume.

1807
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:38,719
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna get on the hour, right, y'all.

1808
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:41,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna save him birth. But how did this come about?

1809
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 5: Just hanging out with him and and and vibing off him?

1810
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:50,719
Speaker 5: Because when you see the TV you get another version

1811
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:55,759
Speaker 5: of him. That's just it's just, sweetheart. He's my brother.

1812
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 5: He's my brother, you know what I'm saying. And for me,

1813
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 5: I always tease him. I say, yeah, damn man, another

1814
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 5: Peter huh.

1815
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 2: You the motherfuckers? Don't you just pop up? You know

1816
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:14,840
Speaker 2: what I mean? Dude. But I'm gonna try it out because.

1817
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 1: Because I'm a gambler, just.

1818
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 2: Make sure it works.

1819
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 5: You know, you can't strike out twice, right, right, So yeah,

1820
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 5: we had this this project called the Odd Couple. Man,

1821
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 5: it's like an EP and we got all different songs

1822
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 5: of just complimenting each other. He's like more like a

1823
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 5: Oscar and I more like a Felix and compliment each other. Man. Okay,

1824
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 5: we got an album it's just me and him. And

1825
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 5: we got Primo. Oh no, pardon me. We got large

1826
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 5: Professor Professor. We got large Professor on two joints, and

1827
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 5: then we got Terminology Terminologies. We got Terminology and we

1828
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 5: got static Selector Selector.

1829
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 2: Which is it the same person?

1830
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 5: Terminogy, Instatus, Terminology and with their crew. What I want

1831
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 5: to thank them for is that I made a record

1832
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 5: with Paul Wall and that was a dope joint. Yes,

1833
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 5: I mean that was a dope joint. So I really

1834
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:25,560
Speaker 5: love that they are on their grind. What did you

1835
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 5: get your ship? Professionally wrote, I mean, yeah, it's Borus.

1836
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 5: He's from Peru.

1837
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 1: Wow, it's yeah, he wrestles alligators.

1838
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 2: I like to say that, yeah, but she won.

1839
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 1: I want to I want to personally thank you.

1840
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 2: You heard.

1841
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 1: I want to personally thank you because what you did

1842
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:57,879
Speaker 1: to hip hop, we all owe you, all of us

1843
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 1: oh all of us. When I say you changed the game,

1844
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm dead serious. Like, you changed the way people rhyme,

1845
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:09,599
Speaker 1: you change the way people walk, you change.

1846
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 2: The way people made it classic too, and you made

1847
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 2: it classy and you made it classic.

1848
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 1: And I wanted to thank you to your face, besides

1849
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:20,520
Speaker 1: the flowers, besides everything, because.

1850
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 2: You are truly a legend. You're truly an icon.

1851
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:29,600
Speaker 1: And I loved when I was just you know, you know,

1852
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 1: I'm searching you, and I'm like, damn, from that point

1853
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 1: of the game, the game has changed and it changed

1854
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:40,680
Speaker 1: for the better, and that's because of you.

1855
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 2: And I wanted to thank you to your face.

1856
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:47,600
Speaker 1: Because that's real, that's real, that's real.

1857
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:48,440
Speaker 2: Because.

1858
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 1: And we wanted to give your flowers from the beginning

1859
01:44:54,240 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 1: of us starting the show right absolutely, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

1860
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: no no, we've been talking you on the loft.

1861
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 5: Let me get my lighter back. I'll tell you, I'm

1862
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 5: always taking it about you.

1863
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 1: Whenever you know that light, that light of that that's

1864
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 1: when you know, take your lighter for you.

1865
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:15,680
Speaker 2: You don't smoke, you don't know that.

1866
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 5: I heard.

1867
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: You talk about one time you had a fight and

1868
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 1: Heavy D pulled up on you and told you to

1869
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,719
Speaker 1: get in the car, and you and and you got

1870
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 1: you got mad or haven't got mad because you didn't

1871
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 1: get in the car at first.

1872
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 2: You still wanted to get it in. That was some fight,

1873
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 2: some some fight. Wow.

1874
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 5: That was over a girl and she was really my friend.

1875
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 5: You ain't smash no, okay because she was really my friend.

1876
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

1877
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 5: See I had a lot of female friends like I

1878
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 5: had a lot of male friends, and we had that

1879
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 5: same mutual respect for each other. Like I have some friends.

1880
01:45:56,680 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 5: You have some friends that you can smash. Then you

1881
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 5: have some friends that y'all just make fried hot dogs, y'all.

1882
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 2: Just y'all just flip uh you say, yeah, never heard

1883
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 2: of that.

1884
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 1: Okay, hot dogs, and.

1885
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 5: Yeah you fry the bun. You you toast the bun.

1886
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you slice the hot in the middle, slice

1887
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 3: it down the middle when you.

1888
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 1: This conversation.

1889
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 5: Anyway anyway, Yeah, so yeah, you know, you just have

1890
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 5: some friends that you bond with, you do things with

1891
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:47,680
Speaker 5: other than when you're with your male friends. So our

1892
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 5: younger cousins were together, they was they was kicking it,

1893
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 5: and you told your home his friends is the female

1894
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 5: friend that I had that was going with Troy that's wow,

1895
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 5: that's his girl. But it was my friend not knowing.

1896
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 5: I didn't know Troy back then, but our little cousins

1897
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 5: were together, so we were chaperoning.

1898
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,719
Speaker 1: So you're basically saying that you and Troy had beef.

1899
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:16,440
Speaker 2: I didn't know Troy eventually.

1900
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 5: Long story short, yes, long story short, Yes he's my brother,

1901
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 5: but you have beef at first, absolutely over this girl,

1902
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 5: over this girl. But it was really my little cousin

1903
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 5: going with her little cousin and we were chaperoning, you

1904
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 5: know what I mean.

1905
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 2: That's how we were together.

1906
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 5: I couldn't leave him in Mount Vernon to go there

1907
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 5: by itself, so I went with him, you know what

1908
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So that's how we were doing it. And

1909
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 5: it wasn't appreciated at first. He pulled up half No, no, no,

1910
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 5: it wasn't heavy. It was just him and his goons, right, okay.

1911
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 5: And then she talked to him and they worked it out.

1912
01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 5: And then one day, like maybe a year later, when

1913
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 5: they were up, when they were really up, and I

1914
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:10,640
Speaker 5: wasn't nothing had to be like I don't know, I know,

1915
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 5: I had night school and I had to make up

1916
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:17,680
Speaker 5: some classes to graduate, and they were already up.

1917
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:18,599
Speaker 2: It was the eighties.

1918
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,799
Speaker 5: They were already up, and they came on the block

1919
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 5: and they asked, can we get a.

1920
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 2: Fair one with me?

1921
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 5: But I was I didn't know what they were talking about, really,

1922
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 5: but that's what they were talking about. So they were

1923
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 5: asking my friends could they get a fair one? They

1924
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:36,800
Speaker 5: thought you were smashing the homie, yeah, but I thought

1925
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 5: it was over. I thought it was over. Evidently it wasn't.

1926
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 5: So they came on the block and a few dudes

1927
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 5: lined up in front of me.

1928
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 2: But you know, I wasn't. I heard you say the

1929
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 2: block was bumping at it.

1930
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:52,879
Speaker 5: It was bangingeah, the buses was moving, it was traffic,

1931
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 5: and long story short, once they got the co sign,

1932
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:02,719
Speaker 5: it was like five or six dudes jumping on me right.

1933
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 5: So once they pulled everybody off of me, then that's

1934
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 5: when the fight started. But I was really messed up,

1935
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And I had taken a

1936
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 5: like a like a somebody had a spike ring right now.

1937
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 5: From that spike ring and punched me where I could

1938
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 5: put my lip through my my tongue through my lip,

1939
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 5: I could put my tongue through my lip, and I

1940
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 5: was swallowing all that blood I could just taste it.

1941
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:34,600
Speaker 5: But see when I when I taste that blood, it

1942
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:38,720
Speaker 5: does something to me. But I was still messed up,

1943
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 5: mind you. But when we got out in the street

1944
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 5: and I got my head together, we performed, well, perform well,

1945
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And you see what they

1946
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 5: don't understand is it's hard to fight a left handed person.

1947
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 1: Mm hm, I heard you said the dude.

1948
01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 5: Was south for it's hard to fight a lit left

1949
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 5: handed person. Because I'm left handed, it's hard to fight me. Oh,

1950
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 5: it's hard. It's hard to fight me because you don't

1951
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:09,720
Speaker 5: know where it's coming from. It's the blind side of

1952
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,679
Speaker 5: whatever you're doing. Everybody, So when you throw the right hand,

1953
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 5: when you throw the right hand, I'm coming over the

1954
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 5: right hand, so you're not seeing You're seeing your punch,

1955
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 5: but you're not seeing my punch. If I was right handed,

1956
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 5: you could see my punches. But I'm left handed, so

1957
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:28,679
Speaker 5: you can't see my punches. So nine times out of ten,

1958
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 5: every time I had to fight, you either try to

1959
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 5: scoop me. After a while, you try to scoop me,

1960
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 5: and that's when you lose. That's when you lose. When

1961
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 5: you try to scoop me.

1962
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:41,080
Speaker 2: You really did like a boxer.

1963
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 5: But I studied all the boxing. Yeah, I'm telling you,

1964
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:48,439
Speaker 5: I thought I was going to be a boxer. I

1965
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 5: studied all the boxing. I used to run jog with

1966
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 5: my dog. I used to jog with my dog. I

1967
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 5: used to think, Lo, listen. I can't take losses. I

1968
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 5: can't take beatens. That's the only thing I can't take.

1969
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,640
Speaker 5: I can't take beatens from my mom, my dad, and

1970
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 5: the niggas on the street. I can't take the beat

1971
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 5: So what are you gonna do about it? I gotta

1972
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:09,639
Speaker 5: figure it out, you know what I'm saying. I never

1973
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 5: at fifteen. I never hung with a kid fifteen. My

1974
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,639
Speaker 5: friends was like thirty thirty two.

1975
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 3: Damn fifteen thirty fifteen to thirty Jesus Christ.

1976
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 5: Because the streets were different back then. It was you

1977
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 5: gotta think the streets. A dude with a third grade

1978
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 5: education could have can have a multi millionaire business on

1979
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 5: the corner. So how is he not gonna mess with

1980
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 5: a fifteen year old or a fourteen year old or

1981
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:38,719
Speaker 5: twelve year old.

1982
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 2: That's how we learned.

1983
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 10: Well.

1984
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 3: The other thing you said that I think is lost

1985
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 3: is chaperoning.

1986
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:46,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, chaperone. That's not happening anymore.

1987
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 3: Noah, people ain't ain't taking they siblings or their cousins.

1988
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:52,680
Speaker 5: What I cared about my cousin, and I kid what

1989
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 5: happened to him, and I knew the climate, So I

1990
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 5: wanted him to have a good time, not get hurt.

1991
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:02,560
Speaker 5: Not figure out that this girl is not who you

1992
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 5: should be with. But figure it out yourself. But I'm here.

1993
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:06,720
Speaker 5: When it messes up.

1994
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:09,759
Speaker 2: We'll hear about it. Nobody's taking care of their.

1995
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 5: It's all about family, you know what I'm saying. You're

1996
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 5: gonna look out for family. If it's your family and

1997
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 5: it's your close friend and it's somebody that means something

1998
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 5: that you're gonna look out for them.

1999
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

2000
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 5: You're not gonna let them go into something that could

2001
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 5: hurt them, you know, so especially when they're a couple

2002
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 5: of years younger than you.

2003
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 3: You know.

2004
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 5: But that was a that was a real famous fight

2005
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 5: in the town. I was a heavy fight in the

2006
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 5: town and we became best friends. Have picked us up

2007
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 5: and I didn't want to get in the car. He

2008
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 5: picked both of y'all up. He had him in the

2009
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 5: car already in the back seat. Oh, that's why you

2010
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 5: didn't want to get in. I didn't want to get

2011
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 5: in because his brother.

2012
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 2: Hit you in the back of the head.

2013
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 5: His brother kept hitting me in the back of the head.

2014
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 5: But then my friend hit his brother. And when his brother,

2015
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 5: his brother didn't just when my friend hit him, he

2016
01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 5: felt like this not crumbled. We felt like he was

2017
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:09,640
Speaker 5: already knocked out. And hit his head and bust his

2018
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:12,640
Speaker 5: head like timber and hit his head the back of

2019
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:14,720
Speaker 5: his head and the blood start coming out of him.

2020
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 5: So when we saw that, we figured, now the fight

2021
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 5: is really on. Because they kept saying, you came up

2022
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 5: here to fight him. Now you you keep jumping in.

2023
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 5: It's when when you're losing, you keep jumping in. And

2024
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:31,559
Speaker 5: I already knew how to concussion. He was giving me

2025
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 5: two or three concussions. I already knew how to concussion.

2026
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:36,680
Speaker 5: When they jumped on me the first time, I knew

2027
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 5: how to concussion. So that's how it was really a real,

2028
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 5: real fight. But through all of that, heav was mad

2029
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 5: at Troy for going up there and challenging the whole thing.

2030
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 5: And after that, God is good. We became brothers. We

2031
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 5: became tight. And you know when it happened. When he died,

2032
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:14,800
Speaker 5: I felt something. I felt bad because I knew when

2033
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 5: we had that fight he transferred all his riches over

2034
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:22,559
Speaker 5: to me. I knew it when he did that because

2035
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 5: I was nutted and he was up. But when he

2036
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 5: did that, he changed my life for the better. That

2037
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 5: one fight changed my life, and it put me on

2038
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 5: a path to work with Eddie f to work with

2039
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 5: v Ed, to work with Pete Rock, to work with

2040
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,880
Speaker 5: I'll be sure, to work with Jeff Red.

2041
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 2: It was a lot of groups that when.

2042
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 3: You say that elevated like it brought you in, Like,

2043
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:52,280
Speaker 3: how did you mean because you messing like fighting him

2044
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 3: or having before him brought you in.

2045
01:54:54,160 --> 01:55:00,160
Speaker 5: That I was a nobody. He fought a nobody, net

2046
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 5: him somebody. Wow, he should have avoided that nobody. Wow,

2047
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 5: he made them somebody.

2048
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:08,520
Speaker 2: That's what.

2049
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 5: See, these are the lessons you learn in life when

2050
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 5: you are intelligent enough to sit back in your easy

2051
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 5: chair and see the vision of it and how you

2052
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 5: could teach your grandson and your sons how this thing go.

2053
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 1: Okay, let's stop me for one second. That's why I

2054
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 1: know you're thinking like a boxer. Let me just take

2055
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 1: you something because it's a boxer that night, and when

2056
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:34,440
Speaker 1: you fight, you are on that same boxers level. It

2057
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 1: does not matter if you Muhammad Ali and you fucking

2058
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:42,440
Speaker 1: this blunt right here, Bahama, it's on the same level.

2059
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 1: That's how I know you're thinking like a box I

2060
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 1: just didn't want to lose. I just didn't want to lose.

2061
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 5: And I know how horrific it was in those days

2062
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 5: to lose, because it wasn't like getting shot. You're getting

2063
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 5: your ass walked, you know what I'm saying, so that

2064
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 5: when they ask you for that five minutes, it's really

2065
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:11,600
Speaker 5: your ass getting war So it's like drowning. It's like drowning.

2066
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 5: You can't control what another person's doing to you. And

2067
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:19,160
Speaker 5: that was always my deep dark fear that I can't

2068
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 5: have that at all. And I know you're better than me,

2069
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:27,640
Speaker 5: but I got tricks, and when I don't use them tricks,

2070
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:31,080
Speaker 5: that's when I'm gonna lose. But I'm gonna got tricks

2071
01:56:31,120 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 5: for you, because all my old friends, by the time

2072
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 5: they got finished with me, nobody in junior high school

2073
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 5: could deal with me unless you were one hundred pounds bigger.

2074
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:43,640
Speaker 5: That's the only time I lost, and when I was

2075
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 5: one hundred. You were one hundred pounds bigger than me.

2076
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 5: So you can move me, you can rag doll me,

2077
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 5: you can smother my stuff, and next thing I know,

2078
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:57,480
Speaker 5: my head is being slammed into a park call. That's

2079
01:56:57,480 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 5: how it was back in them days. You could get

2080
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 5: a fair that one. Yeah, for real, I wish they

2081
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:07,120
Speaker 5: bring that back. There'll be a lot more people, a

2082
01:57:07,160 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 5: lot and there'll be a lot more men being formed,

2083
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 5: because that's what made men. When you could get that

2084
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 5: five minutes win to lose, I didn't win them. All

2085
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:24,040
Speaker 5: was you don't want to fight again. You know what

2086
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 5: I'm saying, You don't want to fight again.

2087
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 2: It's like and do you know they end up respecting you.

2088
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 5: Your enemies become your friends, and your friends become your

2089
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 5: enemies when you get money.

2090
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 1: That's what happened with you enjoyed I became friends that.

2091
01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:40,080
Speaker 2: It became friends.

2092
01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 5: And when you become friends and you have those type

2093
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:45,440
Speaker 5: of friends, then you change.

2094
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 2: Your outlook on friendship.

2095
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:51,120
Speaker 5: The friends you had before are not your friends anymore

2096
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 5: because they can't relate to you anymore. They don't see

2097
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 5: your growth, they don't see your maturity, they don't see

2098
01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:01,600
Speaker 5: your elevation. They don't see your God. They on demon time?

2099
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:05,640
Speaker 5: And you you, you like, what are you talking about?

2100
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 5: Everything I got from God? What you got from the devil?

2101
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 5: Everything I got is from God. I thought it was me.

2102
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,240
Speaker 5: I was telling you it was me, but I didn't

2103
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 5: know it wasn't me. It was God giving me everything.

2104
01:58:20,120 --> 01:58:22,560
Speaker 5: I'm telling you cross over so you can get what

2105
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 5: I get. But you on demon time. You keep professing it.

2106
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 5: So it has to come true. So don't get mad

2107
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 5: when I have more than you.

2108
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:43,200
Speaker 1: So how did y'all? How did y'all? Because how did

2109
01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 1: y'all actually go from being foes to friends?

2110
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 5: He connected it because heav was the one that brought

2111
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 5: He brought the reality to it.

2112
01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:57,520
Speaker 2: He brought the facts to it.

2113
01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 5: Like you you are on the job, You are in

2114
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 5: the spotlight. No, no, I wasn't in the spotlight. Troy

2115
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 5: was in the spotlight. Troy was on the album covers.

2116
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 5: Troy was that guy. I was never that guy. Troy

2117
01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 5: made that guy at that night. He made that night.

2118
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 5: Nobody knew it, but he made Corey that night. See,

2119
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 5: certain things have to happen in order for you to

2120
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 5: be you. It don't take you to be you sometime

2121
01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 5: it take another person to be you, then another person

2122
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 5: introduces you when you get bigger. You know what I'm saying.

2123
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 5: It's about networking. We didn't have all that other stuff

2124
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 5: back then, but the networking. If you official, you official.

2125
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:51,240
Speaker 5: If you are lame, you are lame. If you unproductive,

2126
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:55,720
Speaker 5: you unproductive. But even the unproductive dudes got some love

2127
01:59:55,880 --> 02:00:00,360
Speaker 5: because they knew he might be unproductive. But when Homie

2128
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 5: get off that porch, he's gonna fire away.

2129
02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. So he's not a thinker, he's a deer. You

2130
02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:10,440
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Let me do the thinking, you

2131
02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 2: do the doing. You know what I mean.

2132
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:18,840
Speaker 5: Real talk, real talk, man, Jesus, we had fun in

2133
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 5: those days. Yes, those were like I'm an old New Yorker.

2134
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:27,880
Speaker 5: I always tell everybody this New New York I'm not from.

2135
02:00:28,240 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 5: I'm from the town, but I'm from the old New York.

2136
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:36,160
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, down to the blackouts and

2137
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:39,960
Speaker 5: the serial killers. I'm from the old New York. I'm

2138
02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 5: from the old New York. I remember when, and it's

2139
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:46,280
Speaker 5: not the negative part is that when everybody was alive.

2140
02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 1: I remember when everybody with Disney wasn't there. There you

2141
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:52,680
Speaker 1: go and everybody was alive. Shows.

2142
02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:59,720
Speaker 5: Everybody was alive, everybody was out of jail, everybody wasn't

2143
02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:00,960
Speaker 5: literally in the graveyard.

2144
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:03,680
Speaker 1: And none of us sound like each other as artists.

2145
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:05,880
Speaker 5: No, you wanted to be different in the stick of

2146
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,480
Speaker 5: kids who you wanted to be like, yes, that's real

2147
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:09,480
Speaker 5: because they had it all.

2148
02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:15,320
Speaker 1: That's real. I remember I used to get pulled over

2149
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:18,640
Speaker 1: and tell the people I'm a rapper. That was cool.

2150
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:20,600
Speaker 1: Now i'll get pulled over, I'll tell them I'm a

2151
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:24,840
Speaker 1: drug dealer. Loog it. It's safer to be a drug

2152
02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:28,480
Speaker 1: dealer and a rapper right now, like this city is crazy.

2153
02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:29,840
Speaker 2: Did you realize.

2154
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:36,320
Speaker 1: The drug dealer and a rapper kind of like switch sides,

2155
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:37,920
Speaker 1: Because at one point, it.

2156
02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:40,680
Speaker 2: Was so cool to be a drug dealer, right, that's all.

2157
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 1: We had, And then we realized their fate was two

2158
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:47,440
Speaker 1: different things. Right, it was either jail or whatever. But

2159
02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:51,840
Speaker 1: then the rapper took over. Right, But now the rapper

2160
02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:56,720
Speaker 1: is becoming a drug dealer. It's the fate's the same.

2161
02:01:56,800 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 1: Did you ever think that you would see that.

2162
02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 5: I would never think it because we were always trying

2163
02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:06,360
Speaker 5: to get out, like we're talking about it out the ghetto.

2164
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:08,240
Speaker 2: We wasn't trying to come.

2165
02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:11,280
Speaker 5: The only reason why the dealers were in the ghetto

2166
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:12,520
Speaker 5: with their money is because.

2167
02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:13,200
Speaker 2: Their business was there.

2168
02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:14,400
Speaker 1: That's real.

2169
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:18,560
Speaker 5: Their business was there, so in order to do their business,

2170
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:20,840
Speaker 5: they got to be there. If they're not there, they

2171
02:02:20,840 --> 02:02:21,879
Speaker 5: ain't doing no business.

2172
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:22,440
Speaker 1: That's real.

2173
02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:23,120
Speaker 2: Okay.

2174
02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:27,480
Speaker 5: So when I became a rapper, my thing was to

2175
02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 5: get out too. I don't want to I don't want

2176
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:32,200
Speaker 5: a house next to you. I don't want to live

2177
02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:34,440
Speaker 5: next to the stick up kid. I don't want to

2178
02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:36,880
Speaker 5: live next to the drug dealer. I don't want to

2179
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 5: live next to the dude that extorting somebody or or

2180
02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:41,960
Speaker 5: he's a mugger.

2181
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:44,760
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to jail all the time

2182
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:46,480
Speaker 2: I go visit over there.

2183
02:02:46,880 --> 02:02:49,520
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to stay over there because I know

2184
02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:52,200
Speaker 5: it's just a matter of time. When I elevate, they

2185
02:02:52,200 --> 02:02:56,040
Speaker 5: coming to my spot. When I want something, they coming.

2186
02:02:56,960 --> 02:03:02,320
Speaker 5: You're never too big to get robbed. It's you never

2187
02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:05,960
Speaker 5: too big to get robbed. Come on, I just can't

2188
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:08,800
Speaker 5: live with it. That's the only thing difference with me

2189
02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 5: is that you could take a little change from me,

2190
02:03:11,360 --> 02:03:13,400
Speaker 5: and I'm willing to die for it because I'm not

2191
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:16,360
Speaker 5: built like that. You gotta rob the dead body. I'm

2192
02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:20,320
Speaker 5: not conditioned to give you my stuff. I'm conditioned to

2193
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:22,040
Speaker 5: die because this is what I'm willing to wear.

2194
02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:27,080
Speaker 2: That's it. It's what you could live with. Some people

2195
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:29,080
Speaker 2: could live with giving it up.

2196
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:33,600
Speaker 5: I don't think I could live with that because once

2197
02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:35,320
Speaker 5: I do that, you gotta keep giving it up.

2198
02:03:36,640 --> 02:03:37,600
Speaker 2: And I'm not with that.

2199
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:42,560
Speaker 5: So let's go in our range of what we do

2200
02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:47,760
Speaker 5: and how we do it, and not over extend ourselves.

2201
02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:50,480
Speaker 5: That's why I said I like to live under my means,

2202
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:56,400
Speaker 5: but in a better neighborhood than you, right, Because how

2203
02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:58,520
Speaker 5: we're going to survive if we don't got no good base.

2204
02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 5: Even al Qaeda got a good base, Sure to blow

2205
02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 5: up ship. You gotta have a good base.

2206
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:13,240
Speaker 2: Your ship. Land.

2207
02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 5: You ain't got a good base that ship, come right

2208
02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:17,880
Speaker 5: back and blow up your ship.

2209
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:39,320
Speaker 10: Come on, bro.

2210
02:04:32,120 --> 02:04:35,360
Speaker 5: No, it takes the base for you. Your foundation, right,

2211
02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:39,440
Speaker 5: that's what it is. The basis a foundation that you

2212
02:04:39,560 --> 02:04:43,080
Speaker 5: build off of. And if you if on that foundation,

2213
02:04:43,200 --> 02:04:45,240
Speaker 5: if you build straw, you know you could burn it down.

2214
02:04:45,640 --> 02:04:47,760
Speaker 5: If you build it with bricks, it's gonna be sturdy.

2215
02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:50,839
Speaker 5: So that's a good foundation. As long as your foundation

2216
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:53,840
Speaker 5: is good, anything is possible. You know what I'm saying.

2217
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 1: Let me I know I asked you this a little

2218
02:04:59,720 --> 02:05:07,320
Speaker 1: bit earlier in a different way. But again for me,

2219
02:05:08,920 --> 02:05:11,840
Speaker 1: I love the rap I had, you know, as at

2220
02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:14,520
Speaker 1: least at one point that was that was my craftmanship.

2221
02:05:15,320 --> 02:05:21,440
Speaker 1: But when I had to turn it into business, I

2222
02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:24,640
Speaker 1: kind of like hated it because I had to look

2223
02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:28,400
Speaker 1: at every look, every fast, every fast of here. When

2224
02:05:28,440 --> 02:05:31,360
Speaker 1: I looked at and by the way, God bless me

2225
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 1: for everybody else in this room, I know that this

2226
02:05:33,800 --> 02:05:37,120
Speaker 1: question might be just for me, because when I did

2227
02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 1: look at every facet of it, I was disgusted fast

2228
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:44,800
Speaker 1: as far as hell, like as far as to like.

2229
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:46,480
Speaker 2: Like I'm actually.

2230
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm actually like when let me just say it to myself,

2231
02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:54,840
Speaker 1: like I was actually a pawn in this when I

2232
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:57,280
Speaker 1: looked at it, like this was a high loan that

2233
02:05:57,400 --> 02:05:59,600
Speaker 1: I accepted that I signed for.

2234
02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:01,520
Speaker 2: We've talked about this a lot.

2235
02:06:01,720 --> 02:06:04,880
Speaker 1: I signed for, I accepted I signed for, and I

2236
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:08,800
Speaker 1: always like I was like the dumb kid that said,

2237
02:06:09,080 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 1: you know what, I know this this deal is bad,

2238
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:14,880
Speaker 1: but the next one is going to be greater. Right,

2239
02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:20,320
Speaker 1: So that's and then I realized doing this show that

2240
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:22,200
Speaker 1: everyone else thought like me too.

2241
02:06:22,520 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 2: Sure, it's how you flip it after that? No, yes,

2242
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:26,560
Speaker 2: of course.

2243
02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:33,320
Speaker 1: When it was your first deal, did you read it

2244
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 1: and know that this might have not been the right

2245
02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:38,120
Speaker 1: thing to sign, but you still did it?

2246
02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:40,960
Speaker 2: Just like I did? You know what? You're asking me

2247
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:43,680
Speaker 2: a question? I don't know shit about? What do you mean?

2248
02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 2: Because it's like, I don't remember if it was good

2249
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:49,280
Speaker 2: or not. There's an opportunity.

2250
02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:55,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't remember if it was Like who says, Oh,

2251
02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:56,280
Speaker 5: I know about that deal?

2252
02:06:56,960 --> 02:06:59,440
Speaker 2: I know especially came from.

2253
02:06:59,720 --> 02:07:05,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't have nothing I know about that. I

2254
02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:08,720
Speaker 5: needed Eddie, I needed have I needed?

2255
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:10,120
Speaker 2: I need it?

2256
02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:10,480
Speaker 1: Shit?

2257
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:15,080
Speaker 2: Like, what do I know? How Listen, I ain't going

2258
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:15,760
Speaker 2: to school for that?

2259
02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 1: Right?

2260
02:07:17,200 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 2: How do I know what good?

2261
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:19,240
Speaker 1: It is bad?

2262
02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:22,960
Speaker 5: How do I know unless he told me? If he

2263
02:07:23,120 --> 02:07:25,400
Speaker 5: told me it is good, then it must be good.

2264
02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:27,760
Speaker 5: If it ain't good, he gonna get his neck broke.

2265
02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:33,680
Speaker 1: And who he's saying when you say here here is whoever?

2266
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:37,440
Speaker 5: Because isn't that what was going on back there? You're right,

2267
02:07:38,240 --> 02:07:40,680
Speaker 5: how are you going to tell these little kids you

2268
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:41,640
Speaker 5: robbing them?

2269
02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:44,800
Speaker 2: You can't. That's why I said it's predatory lending.

2270
02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:49,960
Speaker 5: Right, So so I'm thinking as I get older and

2271
02:07:50,120 --> 02:07:53,880
Speaker 5: get twenty five, your foot is in the door, make

2272
02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:54,360
Speaker 5: it work.

2273
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:57,720
Speaker 2: Get the other foot in. That's exactly how Yeah, I

2274
02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:01,480
Speaker 2: don't care what you're robbing me. That's the right of passage.

2275
02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:02,080
Speaker 1: Robbing me.

2276
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:06,320
Speaker 5: Okay, Now once you're finished robbing me, can I plug

2277
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 5: the whole? Do I know how to plug it? Do

2278
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:12,040
Speaker 5: I know how to make it to where they're not

2279
02:08:12,160 --> 02:08:14,360
Speaker 5: robbing me no more? And plug the hole? And then

2280
02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:17,360
Speaker 5: now the oiling leaking, now the air rain coming out

2281
02:08:17,360 --> 02:08:17,960
Speaker 5: of the balloon.

2282
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:21,880
Speaker 2: Now can I get money now? Because I know you

2283
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:22,760
Speaker 2: rob me here?

2284
02:08:22,960 --> 02:08:26,160
Speaker 5: So now you can't rob me because as I'm going on,

2285
02:08:27,000 --> 02:08:31,080
Speaker 5: I'm educating myself to what I'm getting into. It's like

2286
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:34,000
Speaker 5: I ain't know what Rykers Island was about till I

2287
02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:37,280
Speaker 5: got there, bro, And then when I got there, there's

2288
02:08:37,320 --> 02:08:40,280
Speaker 5: certain things you gotta do when you get there.

2289
02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:46,400
Speaker 2: It's not viola, it's not val Yeah.

2290
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:52,400
Speaker 5: Okay, so two different things, right, So you have to

2291
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 5: know how to adapt to whatever you're doing. If you

2292
02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:59,640
Speaker 5: don't know you're getting robbed because you're getting money and

2293
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:03,640
Speaker 5: it's nutted, So you don't know you're getting robbed till

2294
02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:04,520
Speaker 5: you get educated.

2295
02:09:04,600 --> 02:09:06,720
Speaker 2: Then you start fixing yourself.

2296
02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:12,360
Speaker 5: I'm sure every drug dealer that's a kingpin, they got

2297
02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 5: robbed first before they knew how toy, before they knew

2298
02:09:15,480 --> 02:09:19,400
Speaker 5: how to whip that motherfucking shit, like right, so they

2299
02:09:19,480 --> 02:09:22,680
Speaker 5: was getting robbed till he knew how to risk that

2300
02:09:22,760 --> 02:09:28,320
Speaker 5: joint and stretch that motherfucking thing and make it what

2301
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:31,800
Speaker 5: it is. Now he don't need you no more because

2302
02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:34,320
Speaker 5: now he know what to do. You can't rob him

2303
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:36,360
Speaker 5: no more. So he gonna take his show on the road.

2304
02:09:37,640 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 5: And that's what it is.

2305
02:09:39,120 --> 02:09:41,320
Speaker 2: That was. That was a write of passage back then

2306
02:09:41,400 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 2: to get robbed.

2307
02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:46,280
Speaker 5: Now, when you get robbed, it's so many variables to

2308
02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:50,640
Speaker 5: the reclabels I'm talking about right now. Back then you

2309
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 5: could get robbed and nobody ever know it till you die,

2310
02:09:54,680 --> 02:09:57,440
Speaker 5: right yes, Now when you get robbed, they know it

2311
02:09:57,520 --> 02:10:02,400
Speaker 5: right away. Yeah, yeah, they know or right away yeah,

2312
02:10:02,440 --> 02:10:04,560
Speaker 5: well it ain't no delay as soon as you wake up.

2313
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:09,080
Speaker 5: He took this, He took that, yo. Like I told you,

2314
02:10:09,320 --> 02:10:14,640
Speaker 5: I'm so in all their real life, not their music business.

2315
02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:18,000
Speaker 5: Their music business just introduced me to their real life.

2316
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:22,480
Speaker 5: Like you really go through those problems with seven million

2317
02:10:22,520 --> 02:10:24,880
Speaker 5: dollars I ain't going to that problem with seven hundred thousand.

2318
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:29,760
Speaker 5: You really paying them niggas and they acting like that

2319
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:31,800
Speaker 5: when you're in jail and they coming yo.

2320
02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:34,520
Speaker 2: That shit is like a movie. To me, I'm like

2321
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:38,600
Speaker 2: a YouTube junkie to it. Listen.

2322
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:42,400
Speaker 5: How I keep myself hip is not being some old

2323
02:10:42,440 --> 02:10:43,640
Speaker 5: man around young niggas.

2324
02:10:43,680 --> 02:10:47,400
Speaker 2: It's outside looking in for the spectrum.

2325
02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:51,680
Speaker 5: And social media allows you to look into people's lives

2326
02:10:51,960 --> 02:10:57,120
Speaker 5: without even fucking with them, without even knowing them you did,

2327
02:10:57,480 --> 02:11:01,560
Speaker 5: without even having no stakes in what they doing. Just now,

2328
02:11:01,640 --> 02:11:06,600
Speaker 5: if it was my job to bust you, Lord, have mercy.

2329
02:11:06,800 --> 02:11:12,040
Speaker 5: How are you surviving. I'll be a church boy. I'll

2330
02:11:12,080 --> 02:11:15,480
Speaker 5: be a choir boy. How are you surviving with the

2331
02:11:16,120 --> 02:11:19,880
Speaker 5: cameras on the street? You bringing the camera every time

2332
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:22,720
Speaker 5: you do a murder? Can stick up?

2333
02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:23,840
Speaker 2: Come on, bro?

2334
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:26,800
Speaker 5: What we doing man? I thought the whole objective is

2335
02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:30,200
Speaker 5: to get away with it. Now your shit is to

2336
02:11:30,280 --> 02:11:33,760
Speaker 5: take ownership of it and do thirty forty years with

2337
02:11:34,560 --> 02:11:35,840
Speaker 5: fifteen million dollars.

2338
02:11:36,040 --> 02:11:37,240
Speaker 2: To slut your ops.

2339
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:41,320
Speaker 5: Know you didn't with fifteen million dollars in the bank

2340
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:42,920
Speaker 5: doing that.

2341
02:11:44,440 --> 02:11:46,400
Speaker 2: Come on, man, this world is different.

2342
02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:49,520
Speaker 5: I'm supposed to be an old man, because I don't

2343
02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:53,040
Speaker 5: want to grow up with them making those mistakes. Now

2344
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:55,880
Speaker 5: I could see you. You shot up four people that

2345
02:11:55,960 --> 02:11:59,120
Speaker 5: try to rob your drug spot. That's my error, you

2346
02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:02,200
Speaker 5: know what I mean? You're a serial killer. You got busted.

2347
02:12:02,240 --> 02:12:05,440
Speaker 5: You're doing one hundred and fifty years. Yeah, that's my error.

2348
02:12:05,640 --> 02:12:06,000
Speaker 1: All right?

2349
02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:10,440
Speaker 5: This getting fifteen million and coming back to fire away

2350
02:12:10,440 --> 02:12:14,040
Speaker 5: at niggas who don't got three hundred dollars getting killed.

2351
02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:14,400
Speaker 2: In an uber?

2352
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 5: No, come on, and you driving may back and you're

2353
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:22,280
Speaker 5: killing a nigga in an uber? Come on, man, dancing

2354
02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:26,560
Speaker 5: on grades. You needed money for that. I'm gonna say

2355
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:29,760
Speaker 5: it again. You needed money for that. You should have

2356
02:12:29,840 --> 02:12:33,080
Speaker 5: no money and you got fifteen million. You can find

2357
02:12:33,080 --> 02:12:33,880
Speaker 5: something else to do.

2358
02:12:35,120 --> 02:12:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2359
02:12:35,760 --> 02:12:40,240
Speaker 5: Wait, and the music, the music predicates that you do that.

2360
02:12:42,160 --> 02:12:47,160
Speaker 5: What kind of music is that? And everything sound the same?

2361
02:12:47,640 --> 02:12:51,880
Speaker 5: Kill kill kill kill kill kill kill. I love you?

2362
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:55,560
Speaker 5: Wait that killing shit make me not trust you. So

2363
02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:59,200
Speaker 5: when you say you're a rapper, now, what do you mean?

2364
02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:02,720
Speaker 5: That's like saying I go to Iraq and I shoot people.

2365
02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:09,320
Speaker 5: You're a soldier? You getting ready to die? Any Why

2366
02:13:09,400 --> 02:13:10,280
Speaker 5: you buying watches?

2367
02:13:10,760 --> 02:13:14,520
Speaker 2: You're gonna be here, but let's be honest here.

2368
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:17,240
Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of there's a lot of dope

2369
02:13:17,320 --> 02:13:20,200
Speaker 3: artists out there, young artists, oh that are doing dope

2370
02:13:20,200 --> 02:13:21,320
Speaker 3: shit that are not that.

2371
02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:24,600
Speaker 5: Hold on, why do they take the best artists and

2372
02:13:24,720 --> 02:13:25,440
Speaker 5: kill them?

2373
02:13:25,840 --> 02:13:26,000
Speaker 2: Yo?

2374
02:13:26,040 --> 02:13:29,920
Speaker 5: You leave us with shit you ain't yo the ones

2375
02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:32,280
Speaker 5: coming after them? Come on, let's be keeping one hundred

2376
02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:36,600
Speaker 5: dang like that. You're killing the best shit. You just

2377
02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:40,960
Speaker 5: killed the best shit. I know the difference when apple

2378
02:13:41,160 --> 02:13:43,880
Speaker 5: is bruised or it's pure.

2379
02:13:44,120 --> 02:13:45,200
Speaker 2: I know the difference.

2380
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:49,000
Speaker 5: Bro. Wh Why are you killing the best shit and

2381
02:13:49,040 --> 02:13:52,480
Speaker 5: you're leaving us with the alternatives? The twelve nigga off

2382
02:13:52,520 --> 02:13:56,200
Speaker 5: the bench. That nigga ain't Jordan, that nigga ain't Kobe.

2383
02:13:56,240 --> 02:14:02,600
Speaker 5: You just killed them. How how is this a business?

2384
02:14:03,800 --> 02:14:10,320
Speaker 5: It's beyond business. It's monkey business. Without trees to swing on,

2385
02:14:11,200 --> 02:14:15,320
Speaker 5: you're just slamming your head on the concrete. You're just

2386
02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:17,720
Speaker 5: swinging in the air and your head hit the concrete.

2387
02:14:19,160 --> 02:14:19,320
Speaker 1: Bro.

2388
02:14:20,680 --> 02:14:23,760
Speaker 2: Come on, bro, how we doing this? Man?

2389
02:14:23,880 --> 02:14:26,720
Speaker 5: I love for in order for us young people to

2390
02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:31,120
Speaker 5: win and win big people. How young people gotta win.

2391
02:14:32,200 --> 02:14:35,000
Speaker 5: I don't see no white kids with those type of problems.

2392
02:14:35,360 --> 02:14:38,000
Speaker 5: I don't see no air Arab kids with those type

2393
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:43,040
Speaker 5: of problems. I don't see it. While we got that problem,

2394
02:14:43,560 --> 02:14:45,600
Speaker 5: why we can't love you and cherish you? Why you

2395
02:14:45,640 --> 02:14:48,680
Speaker 5: got to kill your own good shit? You just killed

2396
02:14:48,760 --> 02:14:51,160
Speaker 5: pop smoke man, and then you come behind them with

2397
02:14:51,200 --> 02:14:56,480
Speaker 5: what he's the best? What are you coming with? He's

2398
02:14:56,520 --> 02:15:00,960
Speaker 5: the best and you killed him, right? You killed them,

2399
02:15:01,000 --> 02:15:03,720
Speaker 5: and you want us to settle for you. I don't

2400
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:07,920
Speaker 5: really feel that. I don't really feel I remember when

2401
02:15:07,960 --> 02:15:10,840
Speaker 5: you ain't even know our mothers. Now you know everybody? Mother,

2402
02:15:11,880 --> 02:15:16,800
Speaker 5: I told you, oh you they everybody's in their business.

2403
02:15:16,840 --> 02:15:21,880
Speaker 5: Everybody's in everybody's business. Man, that's some punk shit. I

2404
02:15:21,920 --> 02:15:25,360
Speaker 5: don't I don't get it. They know your mom, they

2405
02:15:25,400 --> 02:15:28,800
Speaker 5: know they know who you ain't supposed to know my

2406
02:15:28,840 --> 02:15:34,800
Speaker 5: mom my dad. Let's keep it on this, you know

2407
02:15:34,840 --> 02:15:38,320
Speaker 5: what I mean? Like, nobody know who Aaron Judge parents is.

2408
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:42,760
Speaker 2: Nobody care Derek jetera cool, they're in the box.

2409
02:15:44,120 --> 02:15:47,120
Speaker 1: No, we know Jerry Jedda Well parents is white and black.

2410
02:15:48,880 --> 02:15:52,200
Speaker 5: But see that's the point. There's a place for it,

2411
02:15:52,600 --> 02:15:57,000
Speaker 5: there's a there's a position for it. Nobody want to

2412
02:15:57,000 --> 02:15:59,920
Speaker 5: see a black mother in a Spanish mother crying over

2413
02:16:00,080 --> 02:16:04,200
Speaker 5: you killed they kid with seven eight twenty million with

2414
02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:06,240
Speaker 5: the potential to have a hundred million.

2415
02:16:06,880 --> 02:16:09,480
Speaker 2: So what does that say for our culture? It's a

2416
02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:10,960
Speaker 2: destructive culture.

2417
02:16:11,840 --> 02:16:12,280
Speaker 1: I agree.

2418
02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:16,040
Speaker 5: Who somebody has to win from this destructive culture?

2419
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:20,360
Speaker 2: Who wins? There's a winner, God, who wins?

2420
02:16:21,480 --> 02:16:24,120
Speaker 5: Dan you when you find out who wins, aren't you

2421
02:16:24,480 --> 02:16:28,680
Speaker 5: fucking disgusted? We was disgusted when we got robbed. It's

2422
02:16:28,680 --> 02:16:31,880
Speaker 5: bigger than that, now, bigger than that. Yeah, we end

2423
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:38,800
Speaker 5: up getting that money.

2424
02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:41,199
Speaker 2: We end up getting that money back.

2425
02:16:41,720 --> 02:16:44,240
Speaker 3: But hold hold, hold up, because when I was when

2426
02:16:44,240 --> 02:16:47,440
Speaker 3: I was saying there's dope artists, there's dope artists beyond

2427
02:16:47,440 --> 02:16:50,240
Speaker 3: the artists that are talking because some of the artists were.

2428
02:16:50,280 --> 02:16:52,440
Speaker 2: Mentioned we're talking the street shit.

2429
02:16:52,720 --> 02:16:55,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of young dope artists that aren't

2430
02:16:55,760 --> 02:16:59,640
Speaker 3: talking the street shit that are lyrical mcs that that

2431
02:16:59,720 --> 02:17:01,240
Speaker 3: are in this.

2432
02:17:01,240 --> 02:17:02,760
Speaker 2: Whole youth culture.

2433
02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:06,039
Speaker 3: Digzel Curry, Denzel Curry or Coast Contra.

2434
02:17:06,080 --> 02:17:07,760
Speaker 2: What is a contract with colost Contra?

2435
02:17:07,840 --> 02:17:08,040
Speaker 1: Right?

2436
02:17:08,520 --> 02:17:10,880
Speaker 3: Those guys with those guys off the chain, No, those

2437
02:17:10,879 --> 02:17:14,000
Speaker 3: guys off the chain. There's a bunch of dope young

2438
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:16,720
Speaker 3: art The thing is the difference between our era and

2439
02:17:16,760 --> 02:17:19,840
Speaker 3: this era is it's so many artists it's hard to

2440
02:17:19,920 --> 02:17:22,400
Speaker 3: keep track. There could be an artist that does festivals

2441
02:17:22,440 --> 02:17:25,080
Speaker 3: and has millions of fans that we would never even

2442
02:17:25,160 --> 02:17:26,560
Speaker 3: know if they ask us.

2443
02:17:26,600 --> 02:17:28,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like our brother Russ. I

2444
02:17:28,800 --> 02:17:34,080
Speaker 1: love Russ, You would never know Russ, and I love

2445
02:17:34,160 --> 02:17:37,320
Speaker 1: what Russ is doing. But I look and I see

2446
02:17:37,440 --> 02:17:39,280
Speaker 1: and no one like, you know what I mean, like

2447
02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:42,240
Speaker 1: that kind of co science for us, But I do.

2448
02:17:42,520 --> 02:17:44,640
Speaker 1: But but but my point is this, I mean, it's

2449
02:17:44,640 --> 02:17:47,360
Speaker 1: this fan base, right, but but this is my point.

2450
02:17:47,400 --> 02:17:49,360
Speaker 1: My point is this is that we concentrate on the

2451
02:17:49,400 --> 02:17:54,200
Speaker 1: negative because the negative shines the most. The controversy shines

2452
02:17:54,200 --> 02:17:55,840
Speaker 1: the most, the negativity.

2453
02:17:55,879 --> 02:17:59,080
Speaker 2: We're all we're all attracted. We're all attracted to negative.

2454
02:17:59,320 --> 02:18:02,800
Speaker 5: Death doesn't come with the element then it gris by

2455
02:18:02,840 --> 02:18:04,400
Speaker 5: the way, you have.

2456
02:18:04,400 --> 02:18:06,600
Speaker 3: This dope ass artist over here that's killing the game.

2457
02:18:07,080 --> 02:18:09,680
Speaker 3: But this person does this or gets killed, and we're

2458
02:18:09,680 --> 02:18:13,800
Speaker 3: all here. We're not here with this guy who has

2459
02:18:13,840 --> 02:18:16,600
Speaker 3: a million or girl who has a million plus fan

2460
02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:18,920
Speaker 3: base that's positive.

2461
02:18:19,080 --> 02:18:22,959
Speaker 11: And as a true MC and is of the culture.

2462
02:18:23,640 --> 02:18:26,039
Speaker 11: We're not here. We're over here. It was one net

2463
02:18:26,080 --> 02:18:30,200
Speaker 11: at one time. Right now, it's pockets of wrap. But

2464
02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:32,640
Speaker 11: we need to we need to pocket open ourselves to

2465
02:18:32,720 --> 02:18:33,320
Speaker 11: this pocket.

2466
02:18:33,680 --> 02:18:38,879
Speaker 5: This pocket might have drill, this pocket might have trap,

2467
02:18:39,520 --> 02:18:43,720
Speaker 5: this pocket might have conscious, and this pocket might have.

2468
02:18:46,520 --> 02:18:51,039
Speaker 2: Ratchet. Let me ask, let me change the subject. No, no, no,

2469
02:18:51,040 --> 02:18:52,279
Speaker 2: we shouldn't change the subject.

2470
02:18:52,360 --> 02:18:54,160
Speaker 3: Okay, we should stay on the subject, stay on it

2471
02:18:54,160 --> 02:18:56,240
Speaker 3: because I think this is important for us to speak about,

2472
02:18:56,560 --> 02:18:59,240
Speaker 3: because I think that there's there's a lot of positivity

2473
02:18:59,440 --> 02:19:02,440
Speaker 3: in the culture that we just don't shine a light on.

2474
02:19:02,920 --> 02:19:04,840
Speaker 2: That's this not a hole.

2475
02:19:05,320 --> 02:19:08,240
Speaker 5: See, you can't shine light on something that pockets of

2476
02:19:08,400 --> 02:19:14,240
Speaker 5: things override. You're right, it overrides it because you're saying, Okay, now,

2477
02:19:14,360 --> 02:19:18,160
Speaker 5: if I come in with ratchet, you ain't selling.

2478
02:19:18,760 --> 02:19:23,600
Speaker 2: If I come in with drill, you ain't selling. Now.

2479
02:19:23,680 --> 02:19:27,320
Speaker 5: The only thing that I positive I give to the

2480
02:19:27,360 --> 02:19:31,520
Speaker 5: whole concept of when it was a hole is that

2481
02:19:31,560 --> 02:19:36,040
Speaker 5: the insurance was lower. You can get somewhere now you

2482
02:19:37,120 --> 02:19:40,800
Speaker 5: insurance is high for these artists, these young artists. Yeah,

2483
02:19:40,800 --> 02:19:43,800
Speaker 5: they're getting a lot of money, but you you gotta

2484
02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:47,320
Speaker 5: be on the tour, you can't spot date, you can't

2485
02:19:47,400 --> 02:19:50,800
Speaker 5: do all of these things because the insurance is so enormous.

2486
02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:52,720
Speaker 5: Because somebody's gonna get shot.

2487
02:19:53,480 --> 02:19:57,520
Speaker 3: Are you saying that this artist over here on the

2488
02:19:57,560 --> 02:20:00,640
Speaker 3: negative tip is making more bread than this artists over here?

2489
02:20:00,640 --> 02:20:04,640
Speaker 2: Is it's not It's actually not true. I don't say no,

2490
02:20:04,680 --> 02:20:06,160
Speaker 2: that's what I know. That's what I'm saying.

2491
02:20:05,920 --> 02:20:09,800
Speaker 3: Is because we're living in a time fortunately for these

2492
02:20:09,920 --> 02:20:14,599
Speaker 3: artists that they find their fan base and they're playing festivals,

2493
02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:18,720
Speaker 3: and they're they've got direct to consumer and they're they're

2494
02:20:18,760 --> 02:20:22,640
Speaker 3: making millions of dollars. But if you ask you me

2495
02:20:22,879 --> 02:20:25,360
Speaker 3: or you hey, do you know MC song, so it'll

2496
02:20:25,400 --> 02:20:28,600
Speaker 3: be like I heard of them because they're not directly

2497
02:20:28,640 --> 02:20:29,840
Speaker 3: in our gram feed.

2498
02:20:30,080 --> 02:20:34,320
Speaker 5: I agree with you, but I also agree that he's

2499
02:20:34,360 --> 02:20:37,760
Speaker 5: not getting in trouble. So he's banking all his money

2500
02:20:38,200 --> 02:20:42,520
Speaker 5: minus of what his business consists of. But that same

2501
02:20:42,560 --> 02:20:45,400
Speaker 5: guy is getting in trouble. Not only does he have

2502
02:20:45,480 --> 02:20:47,800
Speaker 5: to spend the money to stay out to get out

2503
02:20:47,840 --> 02:20:49,760
Speaker 5: of trouble, but he has to keep up with the

2504
02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:51,320
Speaker 5: god that's not getting in trouble.

2505
02:20:51,680 --> 02:20:55,280
Speaker 2: So he has to make more right. No, that has

2506
02:20:55,320 --> 02:20:56,160
Speaker 2: to make more right.

2507
02:20:56,920 --> 02:20:59,160
Speaker 5: Okay, So that guy is not going to be in

2508
02:20:59,240 --> 02:21:01,119
Speaker 5: demand like this serial killer.

2509
02:21:04,800 --> 02:21:08,640
Speaker 3: No way, the serial killers and themand serial killers, the

2510
02:21:08,680 --> 02:21:14,280
Speaker 3: man with the serial killer, which which corn flakes or listen.

2511
02:21:15,560 --> 02:21:20,800
Speaker 5: When that insurance is high, that's a high demand because

2512
02:21:20,800 --> 02:21:23,680
Speaker 5: in order for you to even consider it, it has

2513
02:21:23,720 --> 02:21:28,440
Speaker 5: to be in demand. So that nice guy, he's gonna

2514
02:21:28,440 --> 02:21:31,240
Speaker 5: go steady. I love the nice guy. That's like my dad.

2515
02:21:31,280 --> 02:21:35,640
Speaker 5: He's the nice guy. Everybody had way more money than them,

2516
02:21:35,680 --> 02:21:38,920
Speaker 5: and they went to jail. But he kept on along,

2517
02:21:39,360 --> 02:21:43,760
Speaker 5: kept his house and queens paid it off. But these

2518
02:21:43,800 --> 02:21:50,240
Speaker 5: guys have millions of dollars and ran queens. He stayed

2519
02:21:50,240 --> 02:21:54,000
Speaker 5: the course, He stayed the course. He never went to jail.

2520
02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:57,720
Speaker 5: He stayed the course. His house is paid off. These

2521
02:21:57,760 --> 02:22:00,480
Speaker 5: guys with millions of dollars have just come out of

2522
02:22:00,560 --> 02:22:04,200
Speaker 5: jail or getting ready to come out of jail. And

2523
02:22:04,240 --> 02:22:07,640
Speaker 5: what did my dad do. He kept that little engine

2524
02:22:07,640 --> 02:22:12,440
Speaker 5: that could running. These guys had big Boeing setting forty seven.

2525
02:22:12,560 --> 02:22:15,320
Speaker 5: My dad never been on no private jet. And these

2526
02:22:15,400 --> 02:22:19,520
Speaker 5: dudes go to jail. But still, this is what I'm saying,

2527
02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:21,560
Speaker 5: they're not nice guys. Of what I'm trying to say,

2528
02:22:21,680 --> 02:22:22,560
Speaker 5: who's not nice guys?

2529
02:22:22,560 --> 02:22:24,400
Speaker 3: The guys that I'm talking about, That doesn't necessarily mean

2530
02:22:24,400 --> 02:22:27,039
Speaker 3: they're nice guys In the sense of the type of

2531
02:22:27,080 --> 02:22:30,440
Speaker 3: music they make. For example, we Tech who's Tech nine,

2532
02:22:30,520 --> 02:22:34,080
Speaker 3: is already a OG. His background is that he was

2533
02:22:34,080 --> 02:22:36,600
Speaker 3: a blood you know what I'm saying it. But he

2534
02:22:36,680 --> 02:22:39,440
Speaker 3: made his chops and he made his millions, an independent

2535
02:22:39,680 --> 02:22:42,879
Speaker 3: and he did his thing. Denzel Curry, he comes from

2536
02:22:42,959 --> 02:22:45,800
Speaker 3: Raider Klan now originally.

2537
02:22:45,280 --> 02:22:48,000
Speaker 2: Cool with Asap, Rocky and them. He's doing his thing.

2538
02:22:48,320 --> 02:22:52,040
Speaker 3: It's just these artists, they they're deciding not to go there.

2539
02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:54,600
Speaker 3: They're smarter, Let's put it that way. These guys are smarter.

2540
02:22:54,720 --> 02:22:58,039
Speaker 5: But you just answered it because you're saying it's a choice.

2541
02:22:58,400 --> 02:23:02,680
Speaker 5: You can't do both, realists, you cannot do both. So

2542
02:23:02,720 --> 02:23:05,280
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to make a choice, which we call

2543
02:23:05,520 --> 02:23:09,760
Speaker 5: an executive decision, which a lot of people can't make

2544
02:23:09,800 --> 02:23:13,560
Speaker 5: in life, executive decision making. Why because they're afraid of

2545
02:23:13,640 --> 02:23:20,000
Speaker 5: people not liking them. They're afraid of people criticizing them.

2546
02:23:20,120 --> 02:23:23,920
Speaker 5: But it's for the long run when you make executive

2547
02:23:23,920 --> 02:23:28,080
Speaker 5: decisions that it works out and it's not popular until

2548
02:23:28,160 --> 02:23:31,760
Speaker 5: later on. Then that mean when it becomes popular that

2549
02:23:31,879 --> 02:23:35,840
Speaker 5: you made that executive decision, everybody hated you till five

2550
02:23:35,879 --> 02:23:36,880
Speaker 5: years from them.

2551
02:23:37,640 --> 02:23:43,600
Speaker 2: Now they see your vision these young boys out here.

2552
02:23:46,240 --> 02:23:50,480
Speaker 5: It's a choice either you're gonna carry something or feed

2553
02:23:50,520 --> 02:23:51,200
Speaker 5: that or not.

2554
02:23:51,879 --> 02:23:52,680
Speaker 2: It's a choice.

2555
02:23:53,320 --> 02:23:55,360
Speaker 5: If you get out here and you know that what

2556
02:23:55,760 --> 02:23:57,840
Speaker 5: culture you come from, and you know that you came

2557
02:23:57,840 --> 02:24:01,400
Speaker 5: from the streets in a violent back, then that's all

2558
02:24:01,480 --> 02:24:04,440
Speaker 5: you're gonna be doing is feeding that violent background till

2559
02:24:04,440 --> 02:24:07,600
Speaker 5: you find a solution to your problem. And that's what

2560
02:24:07,640 --> 02:24:10,200
Speaker 5: you need in order for you to have longevity and

2561
02:24:10,240 --> 02:24:13,520
Speaker 5: be a great artist with something to contribute to the culture.

2562
02:24:13,840 --> 02:24:17,320
Speaker 5: Such as myself, I even had to make choices. You

2563
02:24:17,360 --> 02:24:20,320
Speaker 5: can't hang with the same dudes that's killing up shit

2564
02:24:20,920 --> 02:24:22,600
Speaker 5: and you not go to jail.

2565
02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:24,360
Speaker 1: More.

2566
02:24:24,800 --> 02:24:26,039
Speaker 2: You gotta make a choice.

2567
02:24:26,680 --> 02:24:30,280
Speaker 3: You guys don't think that there's also a culture because

2568
02:24:30,320 --> 02:24:34,560
Speaker 3: of technology and a lot of other things around technology,

2569
02:24:35,440 --> 02:24:39,039
Speaker 3: but a culture of artists that aren't really truly invested

2570
02:24:39,480 --> 02:24:40,600
Speaker 3: in hip hop culture.

2571
02:24:41,040 --> 02:24:42,800
Speaker 2: They just see, oh, this is.

2572
02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:45,080
Speaker 3: A means to getting a bag, and I do not

2573
02:24:45,120 --> 02:24:46,640
Speaker 3: give a fuck about hip hop.

2574
02:24:46,840 --> 02:24:49,360
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at them because you.

2575
02:24:50,040 --> 02:24:54,120
Speaker 5: I'm not mad at them because you're doing You're doing

2576
02:24:54,160 --> 02:24:55,960
Speaker 5: what an executive is doing.

2577
02:24:56,600 --> 02:24:58,240
Speaker 2: So how can I be mad at you?

2578
02:24:58,400 --> 02:25:01,120
Speaker 5: You can for thinking like, yeah, do I expect you

2579
02:25:01,160 --> 02:25:05,160
Speaker 5: to love what you do. That's asking too much of you. No,

2580
02:25:05,680 --> 02:25:08,080
Speaker 5: you're doing what an executive does. I don't like it.

2581
02:25:08,120 --> 02:25:10,959
Speaker 5: But this is a means to feed my family. This

2582
02:25:11,000 --> 02:25:13,240
Speaker 5: is a means to get where I gotta go. It's

2583
02:25:13,280 --> 02:25:17,280
Speaker 5: called stepping stones to get where you gotta go. But

2584
02:25:17,360 --> 02:25:19,560
Speaker 5: this is a means. I might sell drugs to own

2585
02:25:19,600 --> 02:25:22,560
Speaker 5: that building, but I don't want to sell drugs. I

2586
02:25:22,560 --> 02:25:24,120
Speaker 5: don't want to be known as a drug dealer. But

2587
02:25:24,160 --> 02:25:27,440
Speaker 5: I had to sell drugs to buy that building. Now

2588
02:25:27,480 --> 02:25:31,680
Speaker 5: I don't have to. I'm a landlord. I'm into owning buildings.

2589
02:25:31,680 --> 02:25:37,039
Speaker 5: So they change the perception of what's initially happening, and

2590
02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:40,200
Speaker 5: they're doing it more and more because technology is allowing

2591
02:25:40,240 --> 02:25:40,920
Speaker 5: you to do it.

2592
02:25:41,520 --> 02:25:45,840
Speaker 2: They're allowing you to change your perception overnight of a nigga.

2593
02:25:49,520 --> 02:25:52,840
Speaker 1: That's so deep. That's deep.

2594
02:25:53,240 --> 02:25:59,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, So you know the demand is pockets in. Rap

2595
02:25:59,200 --> 02:26:03,840
Speaker 5: is not a hole. Rap is a fan base of yo.

2596
02:26:03,920 --> 02:26:06,440
Speaker 5: You got artists that nobody knowing they got a bigger

2597
02:26:06,480 --> 02:26:13,120
Speaker 5: fan base than a mainstream artist. You don't understand what

2598
02:26:13,280 --> 02:26:16,640
Speaker 5: this game of technology has done to the music business.

2599
02:26:17,280 --> 02:26:22,960
Speaker 5: Is destroyed it and made.

2600
02:26:21,959 --> 02:26:23,320
Speaker 2: I ain't I'm gonna keep it a hundred.

2601
02:26:23,440 --> 02:26:25,480
Speaker 5: We used to be like, we used to look at

2602
02:26:26,080 --> 02:26:28,440
Speaker 5: all these little hick towns and be.

2603
02:26:28,480 --> 02:26:30,000
Speaker 2: Like, what's he talking about?

2604
02:26:30,840 --> 02:26:34,160
Speaker 5: That shit is like the rapping dokeo most But then

2605
02:26:34,600 --> 02:26:37,920
Speaker 5: now you're starting to see how you live in that

2606
02:26:38,040 --> 02:26:41,080
Speaker 5: little ass town and you got more money than us

2607
02:26:41,120 --> 02:26:46,240
Speaker 5: in New York niggas because and your economy is little

2608
02:26:46,280 --> 02:26:46,920
Speaker 5: to nothing.

2609
02:26:47,040 --> 02:26:49,440
Speaker 2: So do you know how you look? You look like

2610
02:26:49,600 --> 02:26:52,600
Speaker 2: fucking Trump. Yeah.

2611
02:26:53,080 --> 02:26:57,560
Speaker 5: So when things are bad, it's always a good too.

2612
02:26:58,920 --> 02:27:02,879
Speaker 5: It's a weird, morbid perception of what this music business

2613
02:27:02,879 --> 02:27:03,680
Speaker 5: has turned into.

2614
02:27:04,040 --> 02:27:06,199
Speaker 2: When we was little babies, we always heard.

2615
02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:08,640
Speaker 5: About the music business being this, that and the third

2616
02:27:09,320 --> 02:27:12,240
Speaker 5: and it's bad and it's until we got in it,

2617
02:27:12,280 --> 02:27:15,360
Speaker 5: and we say, you listen, it gave us everything. But

2618
02:27:15,560 --> 02:27:21,840
Speaker 5: now you see it morphed back into a self destructive thing.

2619
02:27:21,920 --> 02:27:25,800
Speaker 5: When we have music called self destruction. Self destruction, you

2620
02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:28,360
Speaker 5: know what I mean? We have made We made music,

2621
02:27:28,480 --> 02:27:30,640
Speaker 5: We prophesized this shit.

2622
02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:34,320
Speaker 3: But we cannot forget that the modern music industry was

2623
02:27:34,360 --> 02:27:35,160
Speaker 3: built by the mob.

2624
02:27:35,760 --> 02:27:36,879
Speaker 2: But we prophesized.

2625
02:27:36,959 --> 02:27:39,840
Speaker 3: But I'm saying that we can never forget that when

2626
02:27:39,840 --> 02:27:40,720
Speaker 3: we talk about.

2627
02:27:40,600 --> 02:27:43,200
Speaker 5: Everything was built from the mob. But it took it

2628
02:27:43,720 --> 02:27:46,240
Speaker 5: was a racket. It took it. It's everything was a

2629
02:27:46,360 --> 02:27:50,200
Speaker 5: racket till it became a business. And then once it

2630
02:27:50,280 --> 02:27:55,240
Speaker 5: became a business, we were ten steps behind because they

2631
02:27:55,280 --> 02:27:58,400
Speaker 5: made it a business. We didn't make it a business.

2632
02:27:59,240 --> 02:28:02,039
Speaker 5: So that's where we're coming from. When it comes to

2633
02:28:02,080 --> 02:28:07,680
Speaker 5: the economic of this product and how you have rock

2634
02:28:07,720 --> 02:28:12,400
Speaker 5: and roll being celebrated, you have other genres of music

2635
02:28:12,520 --> 02:28:16,640
Speaker 5: being celebrated. People are even to be celebrated. They're crossing

2636
02:28:16,680 --> 02:28:21,160
Speaker 5: over the country music to be celebrated. Rap is the

2637
02:28:21,280 --> 02:28:25,480
Speaker 5: phenomenon across all It does not celebrate.

2638
02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:27,800
Speaker 2: You, but it could go over there and be celebrated.

2639
02:28:28,520 --> 02:28:32,080
Speaker 5: Your peers celebrate you. Just keep it one hundred. Your

2640
02:28:32,200 --> 02:28:38,359
Speaker 5: peers celebrate you. The people who love the music celebrate you.

2641
02:28:38,360 --> 02:28:41,760
Speaker 5: You just said it's somebody who just they don't care.

2642
02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:45,519
Speaker 5: It's an ends. It's an ends to a means. It's

2643
02:28:45,560 --> 02:28:47,480
Speaker 5: about I'm gonna get the bag and I'm gonna do this.

2644
02:28:48,680 --> 02:28:52,200
Speaker 2: I always wanted to do this. I want to.

2645
02:28:52,240 --> 02:28:56,800
Speaker 5: I want to paint sculptures with my rap money. I

2646
02:28:56,840 --> 02:29:01,120
Speaker 5: want to do this with my rap money. Come on,

2647
02:29:01,800 --> 02:29:05,360
Speaker 5: I want to cook you food. I want to. I

2648
02:29:05,400 --> 02:29:08,080
Speaker 5: want you to buy my shoe. I want you to

2649
02:29:08,120 --> 02:29:11,600
Speaker 5: wear my time you dig I want you to wear

2650
02:29:11,680 --> 02:29:16,800
Speaker 5: my shirt because it's always been a you created it.

2651
02:29:17,520 --> 02:29:19,560
Speaker 5: Were the only ones that said, yeah, we're gonna get

2652
02:29:19,640 --> 02:29:21,600
Speaker 5: rich off this shit. Ill at boy, what are you

2653
02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:25,240
Speaker 5: talking about. I'm different from y'all. I don't do what

2654
02:29:25,320 --> 02:29:29,640
Speaker 5: y'all do. Y'all do what each other do. But now

2655
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:33,039
Speaker 5: look how they flipped it. They said, Aha, I'm gonna

2656
02:29:33,040 --> 02:29:35,280
Speaker 5: make everybody sound the same, and they gonna get paid,

2657
02:29:35,320 --> 02:29:37,200
Speaker 5: and you're gonna sound different than not get paid.

2658
02:29:38,680 --> 02:29:42,000
Speaker 2: Wow, how you like that?

2659
02:29:42,800 --> 02:29:45,400
Speaker 5: Then you're gonna have to really go off of what

2660
02:29:45,480 --> 02:29:49,200
Speaker 5: you invested in over here with your clay thing and

2661
02:29:48,600 --> 02:29:51,760
Speaker 5: your your land and your this and there that here

2662
02:29:51,879 --> 02:29:56,000
Speaker 5: they put you to the tests. But God makes a

2663
02:29:56,040 --> 02:29:59,560
Speaker 5: way for everything. God don't make no mistakes. He put

2664
02:29:59,640 --> 02:30:02,760
Speaker 5: you here for a purpose. When they think we wasn't

2665
02:30:02,760 --> 02:30:06,120
Speaker 5: gonna make no money, we're still making money. I wouldn't

2666
02:30:06,200 --> 02:30:09,720
Speaker 5: think I would make money now. But guess what, it's

2667
02:30:09,760 --> 02:30:15,400
Speaker 5: not me. It's God's plan. It's not me no more.

2668
02:30:16,160 --> 02:30:19,480
Speaker 5: I'm just an old man enjoying the ride.

2669
02:30:20,720 --> 02:30:25,440
Speaker 2: Is it? That's it? That's it?

2670
02:30:25,520 --> 02:30:25,960
Speaker 1: Baby?

2671
02:30:26,720 --> 02:30:29,520
Speaker 2: What's that? Some titos?

2672
02:30:29,520 --> 02:30:29,880
Speaker 1: Oh?

2673
02:30:29,920 --> 02:30:35,160
Speaker 5: You're switching it up. Happy Birthday, it's the birthday week. Yes,

2674
02:30:35,240 --> 02:30:39,200
Speaker 5: let's go, mister anniversary. Yes, a drink Champ. That's right,

2675
02:30:39,240 --> 02:30:43,840
Speaker 5: goddamn anything. Champs is official. Yeah, see you a Champ.

2676
02:30:44,040 --> 02:30:44,840
Speaker 5: You official.

2677
02:30:50,400 --> 02:30:52,640
Speaker 3: As many of y'all know, Drink Champs wants to give

2678
02:30:52,680 --> 02:30:55,800
Speaker 3: flowers that people are here to receive them, giving flowers

2679
02:30:55,800 --> 02:30:58,240
Speaker 3: and celebrating our legends while they can still smell us.

2680
02:30:58,879 --> 02:31:01,560
Speaker 3: We have partnered with What the Flowers to create the movement.

2681
02:31:02,080 --> 02:31:04,640
Speaker 3: Everyone can give flowers to the legends in their life.

2682
02:31:05,280 --> 02:31:08,160
Speaker 3: You can now order a custom flower box because someone

2683
02:31:08,280 --> 02:31:08,800
Speaker 3: you want.

2684
02:31:08,600 --> 02:31:12,039
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2685
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2686
02:31:20,480 --> 02:31:22,720
Speaker 1: I beat Joe, got a key to the city. I

2687
02:31:22,760 --> 02:31:27,480
Speaker 1: saw a flex very briefly, but I very very much love.

2688
02:31:27,959 --> 02:31:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love, I love. I like the man he's become.

2689
02:31:30,360 --> 02:31:33,080
Speaker 5: I like the man he is, and I and and

2690
02:31:33,120 --> 02:31:36,440
Speaker 5: when you disagree with him, do you know you can

2691
02:31:36,480 --> 02:31:38,400
Speaker 5: always sit down with him and talk to him. Yeah,

2692
02:31:40,560 --> 02:31:46,400
Speaker 5: even if y'all got super duper hectic, heavy hot beef,

2693
02:31:48,160 --> 02:31:53,560
Speaker 5: he can talk. He got a wheel, he can spin it.

2694
02:31:54,520 --> 02:31:56,960
Speaker 5: You got a wheel meaning a table. When I say

2695
02:31:57,000 --> 02:32:01,800
Speaker 5: a wheel, your table is your wheel, your round table.

2696
02:32:01,840 --> 02:32:05,959
Speaker 5: Who you got at your table, that's your wheel. So

2697
02:32:06,560 --> 02:32:09,480
Speaker 5: he got a wheel man, and he's he's a loving

2698
02:32:09,560 --> 02:32:12,560
Speaker 5: brother and who who doesn't understand him because he's kind

2699
02:32:12,600 --> 02:32:16,360
Speaker 5: of harsh. You gotta get to understand him because it's

2700
02:32:16,440 --> 02:32:19,039
Speaker 5: not what he says, it's the way he says it.

2701
02:32:19,760 --> 02:32:25,200
Speaker 1: So let me ask you also, when you know we

2702
02:32:25,320 --> 02:32:28,320
Speaker 1: keep googling you, flex went at Peak Rock?

2703
02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2704
02:32:29,600 --> 02:32:31,680
Speaker 1: Do you think he went at Peak Rock because of

2705
02:32:31,720 --> 02:32:35,960
Speaker 1: you and your relationship? I'm asking this, is it?

2706
02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:36,200
Speaker 2: Could?

2707
02:32:36,320 --> 02:32:39,560
Speaker 5: It could be a possibility, Yes, because I like the

2708
02:32:39,600 --> 02:32:42,440
Speaker 5: brothers are gonna take up for brothers like that, and

2709
02:32:42,520 --> 02:32:44,879
Speaker 5: brothers are gonna remind you who your brother is.

2710
02:32:45,680 --> 02:32:47,240
Speaker 2: I love you, know what I'm saying.

2711
02:32:47,920 --> 02:32:50,520
Speaker 5: Brothers are gonna always put it in the perspective of

2712
02:32:51,240 --> 02:32:55,320
Speaker 5: asking you and loving you and understanding where you're coming

2713
02:32:55,360 --> 02:33:03,400
Speaker 5: from before they go to war. Understand. So I looked

2714
02:33:03,440 --> 02:33:06,920
Speaker 5: at it like this. When I finally listened to it,

2715
02:33:07,040 --> 02:33:11,040
Speaker 5: I said, Yo, if I would have said that, I

2716
02:33:11,120 --> 02:33:12,840
Speaker 5: does sounded like a fucking hater.

2717
02:33:14,120 --> 02:33:16,720
Speaker 2: But if he said.

2718
02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:23,680
Speaker 5: That's his lane, he's a he's a that's he's not

2719
02:33:23,840 --> 02:33:30,240
Speaker 5: taking itself out of his zone. So I'm with forty

2720
02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:33,480
Speaker 5: eight laws of power. I'm a master thinker. I'm with

2721
02:33:34,440 --> 02:33:37,240
Speaker 5: placing the game the way it's supposed to be and

2722
02:33:37,360 --> 02:33:38,480
Speaker 5: playing there is.

2723
02:33:38,440 --> 02:33:41,519
Speaker 2: A game to be played, Okay.

2724
02:33:41,760 --> 02:33:45,560
Speaker 5: So however you come up with your shit is how

2725
02:33:45,600 --> 02:33:46,920
Speaker 5: you come up with it.

2726
02:33:46,920 --> 02:33:51,400
Speaker 2: It don't mean I'm a writer. It don't mean I'm

2727
02:33:51,400 --> 02:33:51,879
Speaker 2: a writ it.

2728
02:33:51,920 --> 02:33:55,640
Speaker 5: But I got a brother's nigga that love me too,

2729
02:33:55,760 --> 02:33:57,640
Speaker 5: like they love you, and they still love you.

2730
02:33:58,240 --> 02:34:01,400
Speaker 2: They just that did the same thing for me.

2731
02:34:01,400 --> 02:34:05,760
Speaker 5: If I interrupted his ship checking another nigga.

2732
02:34:06,080 --> 02:34:10,240
Speaker 2: Yo, nigga yo, nor re. Fuck you what I'm talking

2733
02:34:10,240 --> 02:34:13,560
Speaker 2: to this nigga? What you mean? What you mean? See

2734
02:34:14,240 --> 02:34:17,400
Speaker 2: what you mean? I'm talking to him?

2735
02:34:17,959 --> 02:34:20,119
Speaker 1: Who are you?

2736
02:34:20,120 --> 02:34:24,240
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? So I love him, man,

2737
02:34:24,360 --> 02:34:27,600
Speaker 5: I love Pete too. I ain't gonna lie. I don't

2738
02:34:27,640 --> 02:34:33,040
Speaker 5: gotta like you to love you. I love you. You know, yeah,

2739
02:34:33,040 --> 02:34:33,560
Speaker 5: I love you.

2740
02:34:33,680 --> 02:34:40,560
Speaker 2: I love you. I love what you gave me. I appreciative.

2741
02:34:40,800 --> 02:34:43,080
Speaker 5: I think that's the most important thing you can be,

2742
02:34:43,879 --> 02:34:47,600
Speaker 5: is appreciative to what somebody give you from their heart

2743
02:34:48,280 --> 02:34:51,680
Speaker 5: and from their creativity and their soul because they wanted

2744
02:34:51,720 --> 02:34:52,680
Speaker 5: to win like you.

2745
02:34:53,240 --> 02:34:56,640
Speaker 2: So I appreciate that, you know, what I'm saying.

2746
02:34:56,680 --> 02:35:00,000
Speaker 5: So I'll always give him as props for we made

2747
02:35:00,920 --> 02:35:03,680
Speaker 5: I didn't make it, you didn't make it. We can

2748
02:35:03,879 --> 02:35:07,480
Speaker 5: argue like that, but it's we, But it's we. We

2749
02:35:07,560 --> 02:35:11,280
Speaker 5: don't have to acknowledge it all the time in the argument.

2750
02:35:11,879 --> 02:35:14,360
Speaker 5: It's fire, but it's we. That's fire.

2751
02:35:14,560 --> 02:35:17,320
Speaker 2: You know what I mean without acknowledgment. You know what

2752
02:35:17,360 --> 02:35:17,760
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

2753
02:35:17,920 --> 02:35:25,720
Speaker 1: That's fire. That's fine, man. I ain't gonna see y'all.

2754
02:35:25,800 --> 02:35:26,000
Speaker 5: Man.

2755
02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of your growth. I'm so proud of

2756
02:35:33,760 --> 02:35:36,800
Speaker 1: how you you take life.

2757
02:35:37,959 --> 02:35:42,000
Speaker 5: Life is meant to be lived. You could have one

2758
02:35:42,080 --> 02:35:46,000
Speaker 5: dollar and a million dollars and that. I'm tired of

2759
02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:51,000
Speaker 5: seeing poor people be happy and I'm not happy. I'm

2760
02:35:51,040 --> 02:35:55,240
Speaker 5: tired of it. I ain't catch that part. I'm tired

2761
02:35:55,280 --> 02:35:59,320
Speaker 5: of seeing poor people happy with what they have, what

2762
02:35:59,520 --> 02:36:03,360
Speaker 5: they don't expect, nothing and they happy. Why can't you

2763
02:36:03,480 --> 02:36:10,920
Speaker 5: be happy? Why can't you with simple things? You've accomplished things.

2764
02:36:11,360 --> 02:36:16,160
Speaker 5: Don't think that everything is about you. It's about what

2765
02:36:16,240 --> 02:36:21,360
Speaker 5: you have accomplished, what you have earned, and what you're

2766
02:36:21,520 --> 02:36:25,280
Speaker 5: doing with it. That says more volumes than what you

2767
02:36:25,360 --> 02:36:26,480
Speaker 5: are talking about.

2768
02:36:27,360 --> 02:36:30,200
Speaker 2: You want people to know about you. It ain't you.

2769
02:36:30,360 --> 02:36:33,200
Speaker 5: I'm just a vessel. I'm just a vessel now, man.

2770
02:36:33,200 --> 02:36:36,040
Speaker 5: It ain't about me no more. It's about my higher power.

2771
02:36:36,840 --> 02:36:39,760
Speaker 5: It's about my God. You know what I'm saying. But

2772
02:36:39,840 --> 02:36:41,880
Speaker 5: it ain't in the church. It's about what I do

2773
02:36:41,959 --> 02:36:44,280
Speaker 5: every day. You know what I'm saying, Because I know

2774
02:36:44,440 --> 02:36:47,360
Speaker 5: for sure I ain't get all this shit with my

2775
02:36:47,480 --> 02:36:53,000
Speaker 5: smart somebody had to give it to me. And that's

2776
02:36:53,000 --> 02:36:56,600
Speaker 5: what people are feeling to real acknowledge somebody had to

2777
02:36:56,640 --> 02:36:59,480
Speaker 5: give it to them. Did you appreciate it? Did you

2778
02:36:59,520 --> 02:37:02,520
Speaker 5: do the right thing with it? You know what I'm saying.

2779
02:37:02,600 --> 02:37:06,959
Speaker 5: But somebody had to give bless you. It's called blessings

2780
02:37:07,000 --> 02:37:13,040
Speaker 5: like nobody thought drink champs bang noorri.

2781
02:37:13,800 --> 02:37:14,480
Speaker 2: He wasn't.

2782
02:37:15,040 --> 02:37:19,120
Speaker 5: He wasn't talking to you like that. He wasn't he

2783
02:37:19,200 --> 02:37:21,040
Speaker 5: want He was like what what?

2784
02:37:21,040 --> 02:37:22,480
Speaker 1: What? Love it?

2785
02:37:24,120 --> 02:37:28,439
Speaker 2: He wasn't. Well, let me hear what you gotta say.

2786
02:37:29,160 --> 02:37:32,920
Speaker 5: So you see that evolution of a man growing and

2787
02:37:32,959 --> 02:37:38,480
Speaker 5: blossoming and his wife water and the plant and allowing

2788
02:37:38,600 --> 02:37:41,439
Speaker 5: him to be have a wider territory.

2789
02:37:42,600 --> 02:37:43,080
Speaker 2: You dig.

2790
02:37:44,080 --> 02:37:50,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, niggas don't accomplish that ship with gangs. Niggas don't

2791
02:37:50,480 --> 02:37:53,240
Speaker 5: accomplish that ship with the best five on the block.

2792
02:37:55,080 --> 02:37:57,560
Speaker 5: It takes a strong woman to make a strong man.

2793
02:37:57,760 --> 02:38:07,360
Speaker 5: It takes that. So all you need, man, it's a

2794
02:38:07,400 --> 02:38:12,000
Speaker 5: great partner. That's what made my music right, a great partner.

2795
02:38:12,440 --> 02:38:15,000
Speaker 5: So why wouldn't you take that same formula and put

2796
02:38:15,040 --> 02:38:17,680
Speaker 5: it into real life and say, Yo, cool, I need

2797
02:38:17,680 --> 02:38:18,600
Speaker 5: a great partner.

2798
02:38:19,640 --> 02:38:20,840
Speaker 2: Shouldn't that be my goal?

2799
02:38:20,959 --> 02:38:21,279
Speaker 1: Now?

2800
02:38:21,879 --> 02:38:22,680
Speaker 2: Great partner?

2801
02:38:23,920 --> 02:38:27,400
Speaker 5: Nurture it, water it, make sure the soil right, make

2802
02:38:27,440 --> 02:38:30,480
Speaker 5: sure she happy. Ultimately, when she happy, I could do

2803
02:38:30,520 --> 02:38:33,840
Speaker 5: a whole lot more. Right, I could do a whole

2804
02:38:33,879 --> 02:38:36,440
Speaker 5: lot more when she happy, you know what I'm saying.

2805
02:38:36,640 --> 02:38:39,240
Speaker 5: And I could be around a whole lot more, even

2806
02:38:39,240 --> 02:38:42,440
Speaker 5: the shit I'm not supposed to be around, because she

2807
02:38:42,520 --> 02:38:46,640
Speaker 5: give me that grace, She give me that position. And

2808
02:38:46,720 --> 02:38:49,200
Speaker 5: do believe I'm like a running back. I take all

2809
02:38:49,440 --> 02:38:50,439
Speaker 5: of the yards.

2810
02:38:52,600 --> 02:38:56,560
Speaker 1: This guy's a sports guy. Question because I'm gonna be

2811
02:38:56,640 --> 02:38:57,240
Speaker 1: honest with you.

2812
02:38:58,040 --> 02:38:59,920
Speaker 2: Did you watch him in comment on here?

2813
02:39:00,320 --> 02:39:00,600
Speaker 1: I did?

2814
02:39:00,680 --> 02:39:03,920
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And he seemed very open to you guys

2815
02:39:03,959 --> 02:39:05,600
Speaker 3: doing stuff I felt.

2816
02:39:05,879 --> 02:39:09,440
Speaker 5: What do you think see now that I'm on the platform, Yes,

2817
02:39:09,640 --> 02:39:13,040
Speaker 5: I see how easy it is to be nice. You

2818
02:39:13,080 --> 02:39:17,360
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying I can see how easy it

2819
02:39:17,440 --> 02:39:19,960
Speaker 5: is to be nor makes it so like, you know

2820
02:39:19,959 --> 02:39:23,360
Speaker 5: what I mean, he trust me. He just he puts

2821
02:39:23,400 --> 02:39:26,120
Speaker 5: it right there and you just you just eat it up,

2822
02:39:26,160 --> 02:39:29,160
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So I wasn't planning to

2823
02:39:29,240 --> 02:39:33,960
Speaker 5: say ship, but here you could just flow, you know

2824
02:39:34,000 --> 02:39:36,520
Speaker 5: what I mean, You could just flow and you can drink.

2825
02:39:36,600 --> 02:39:41,560
Speaker 5: Champs is like, yeah, you're having drinks. Yeah, Because I

2826
02:39:41,600 --> 02:39:45,640
Speaker 5: think when artists get here sometimes in their fear of

2827
02:39:46,680 --> 02:39:52,160
Speaker 5: being around you guys and being asked questions, they feel

2828
02:39:52,240 --> 02:39:55,720
Speaker 5: vulnerable of drinking, you know, of smoking.

2829
02:39:56,800 --> 02:39:58,680
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, I'm gonna be honest.

2830
02:39:58,400 --> 02:40:03,400
Speaker 5: With you, And that was my fear initially to say, well,

2831
02:40:04,080 --> 02:40:05,520
Speaker 5: maybe we can do it next year.

2832
02:40:05,760 --> 02:40:10,360
Speaker 2: But no, I said, you know what, I think, I'm

2833
02:40:10,360 --> 02:40:10,879
Speaker 2: gonna be me.

2834
02:40:11,720 --> 02:40:16,720
Speaker 5: Yes, and I'm being me, And to restrict myself and

2835
02:40:16,840 --> 02:40:20,080
Speaker 5: think about what he's saying would not be given to me.

2836
02:40:20,760 --> 02:40:24,800
Speaker 5: He would only be given them my representative, you know

2837
02:40:24,800 --> 02:40:29,600
Speaker 5: what I mean. So I think in this platform of

2838
02:40:29,840 --> 02:40:34,280
Speaker 5: who you are and really who you are, because you're

2839
02:40:34,320 --> 02:40:38,280
Speaker 5: introducing yourself to people who don't really don't know you,

2840
02:40:38,400 --> 02:40:40,800
Speaker 5: people who really don't fuck with you, people who really

2841
02:40:40,800 --> 02:40:45,120
Speaker 5: don't who are just being put on to you or

2842
02:40:45,200 --> 02:40:47,520
Speaker 5: reminded of you and didn't know.

2843
02:40:47,879 --> 02:40:48,520
Speaker 2: Hey, that's you.

2844
02:40:50,120 --> 02:40:53,440
Speaker 5: Now you can get it on a platform where they

2845
02:40:53,480 --> 02:40:56,560
Speaker 5: can understand it, and they give you a platform to

2846
02:40:56,800 --> 02:40:59,320
Speaker 5: express yourself the way you want to express it.

2847
02:41:00,080 --> 02:41:00,879
Speaker 2: And that was here.

2848
02:41:01,040 --> 02:41:04,440
Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't have any expectations to pick this up.

2849
02:41:04,560 --> 02:41:10,160
Speaker 2: You know, no moreing me get one of.

2850
02:41:10,080 --> 02:41:13,120
Speaker 1: Those problem hold on, hold on, I'm gonna give you

2851
02:41:13,200 --> 02:41:14,960
Speaker 1: my last one with hash.

2852
02:41:15,080 --> 02:41:17,480
Speaker 2: This is European hass as. If you want you.

2853
02:41:17,720 --> 02:41:19,959
Speaker 1: Want me to talk, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

2854
02:41:20,120 --> 02:41:20,800
Speaker 1: listen listen.

2855
02:41:20,959 --> 02:41:23,800
Speaker 5: But by the way it looks, it was gonna tell

2856
02:41:23,840 --> 02:41:24,560
Speaker 5: me it looks big.

2857
02:41:24,800 --> 02:41:27,440
Speaker 2: Listen to me. But you set out eighty joints, but

2858
02:41:27,480 --> 02:41:28,520
Speaker 2: this has got no hash.

2859
02:41:28,920 --> 02:41:31,600
Speaker 1: Listen to me, see how smooth. I would like to

2860
02:41:31,640 --> 02:41:33,119
Speaker 1: give you my last but it's.

2861
02:41:32,959 --> 02:41:33,840
Speaker 2: Gonna suck you up.

2862
02:41:34,360 --> 02:41:39,959
Speaker 1: Okay, but this is my last one hash europe.

2863
02:41:40,080 --> 02:41:40,600
Speaker 2: Excuse me?

2864
02:41:41,120 --> 02:41:43,440
Speaker 3: What is making a good sale for that show? No, no, no,

2865
02:41:43,400 --> 02:41:45,960
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna give it to you. It's gonna see.

2866
02:41:47,040 --> 02:41:51,360
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something, man, go ahead. I

2867
02:41:51,480 --> 02:41:54,320
Speaker 1: said this whole time. We changed the rap game, and

2868
02:41:54,440 --> 02:41:58,000
Speaker 1: let me just say something and you know. I know

2869
02:41:58,080 --> 02:42:01,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna say something stupid, but you changed my life

2870
02:42:02,440 --> 02:42:02,920
Speaker 1: as well.

2871
02:42:03,920 --> 02:42:04,280
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2872
02:42:04,360 --> 02:42:07,640
Speaker 1: I heard you, and I wanted to be EMC. I

2873
02:42:07,720 --> 02:42:10,200
Speaker 1: wanted to be not only an MC, I wanted to

2874
02:42:10,280 --> 02:42:15,440
Speaker 1: be a better EMC. And I felt like, you know,

2875
02:42:17,040 --> 02:42:22,640
Speaker 1: you helped nas Nas help me. I helped I mean, no,

2876
02:42:22,680 --> 02:42:25,240
Speaker 1: excuse me, you helped nas Nas help more deep, more

2877
02:42:25,360 --> 02:42:25,880
Speaker 1: deep help me.

2878
02:42:26,320 --> 02:42:28,800
Speaker 2: And I feel like I owe you.

2879
02:42:29,400 --> 02:42:33,240
Speaker 1: So I held this blunt because I knew he was

2880
02:42:33,320 --> 02:42:34,800
Speaker 1: going to ask, but this is this is it.

2881
02:42:35,200 --> 02:42:38,879
Speaker 3: He rolled it in nineteen ninety eight and he held

2882
02:42:38,879 --> 02:42:39,200
Speaker 3: it for you.

2883
02:42:39,280 --> 02:42:44,240
Speaker 5: By the way, why do I feel like Krris wont

2884
02:42:45,040 --> 02:42:46,039
Speaker 5: don't really feel like.

2885
02:42:46,879 --> 02:42:49,800
Speaker 1: Just because I'm handing you the scrolls of hip hop?

2886
02:42:50,240 --> 02:42:56,840
Speaker 1: Please scrolls scrolls. But see how smooth I swear to you, man,

2887
02:42:58,160 --> 02:43:01,920
Speaker 1: I really really we were so excited, all of the

2888
02:43:02,040 --> 02:43:09,039
Speaker 1: drink Champs crew right here, we were so excited. And

2889
02:43:09,160 --> 02:43:11,960
Speaker 1: by the way, by the way, you know, we make

2890
02:43:12,040 --> 02:43:14,720
Speaker 1: bets of like what time the artist is gonna come,

2891
02:43:15,400 --> 02:43:18,480
Speaker 1: and like who's going to be late or not, And

2892
02:43:18,560 --> 02:43:23,320
Speaker 1: I immediately said, ms diego, it's going to be no, no, no, no.

2893
02:43:23,360 --> 02:43:24,760
Speaker 2: That that's some good ship.

2894
02:43:25,840 --> 02:43:26,359
Speaker 1: That's why.

2895
02:43:28,000 --> 02:43:31,320
Speaker 5: You might be on your flip ship. If I could

2896
02:43:31,320 --> 02:43:38,960
Speaker 5: bring this whole ship, so we actually who would produce

2897
02:43:41,400 --> 02:43:43,480
Speaker 5: the the Holy Grail?

2898
02:43:43,959 --> 02:43:45,760
Speaker 2: Right now?

2899
02:43:45,800 --> 02:43:49,320
Speaker 1: Who would you produce the Holy Grail? If God came

2900
02:43:49,360 --> 02:43:55,320
Speaker 1: to you said produce this record, You're not on it.

2901
02:43:56,200 --> 02:43:59,960
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones, Yeah, Christy Jones, Damn, I like that, Quincy Jones.

2902
02:44:03,080 --> 02:44:05,760
Speaker 5: I would do another record of Lenny Kravitz and Jay

2903
02:44:05,840 --> 02:44:06,800
Speaker 5: z mm hmm.

2904
02:44:07,640 --> 02:44:12,240
Speaker 1: This motherfucker I don't like, like like I think I

2905
02:44:12,320 --> 02:44:14,800
Speaker 1: know him, and then he just soole some other ship

2906
02:44:14,920 --> 02:44:19,480
Speaker 1: out this Lenny one of that, and who's producing, Lenny

2907
02:44:19,520 --> 02:44:20,720
Speaker 1: Cravis producing.

2908
02:44:20,879 --> 02:44:24,440
Speaker 2: Whoever want to produce it, whoever's going, whoever's going? Who

2909
02:44:24,480 --> 02:44:25,560
Speaker 2: would you? Who I want?

2910
02:44:26,840 --> 02:44:34,119
Speaker 5: I would pick A. I would pick either. I would

2911
02:44:34,120 --> 02:44:40,640
Speaker 5: pick either R Kelly or I would pick either R

2912
02:44:40,760 --> 02:44:45,640
Speaker 5: Kelly or I was like, I like that or l

2913
02:44:45,680 --> 02:44:47,240
Speaker 5: A and babyface.

2914
02:44:50,400 --> 02:44:53,840
Speaker 2: Lenny Cravis and Jay Z is see that and I can.

2915
02:44:54,000 --> 02:44:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell they dreads might look the same, you

2916
02:44:56,440 --> 02:44:56,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?

2917
02:44:57,200 --> 02:44:58,480
Speaker 2: Very R and B with that production.

2918
02:44:59,440 --> 02:45:03,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I wanted, I wanted to wear it could

2919
02:45:04,000 --> 02:45:09,199
Speaker 5: be a tweener. I don't need definitive, I need I need.

2920
02:45:10,120 --> 02:45:14,879
Speaker 5: I need range, I need everywhere. I don't need here,

2921
02:45:15,879 --> 02:45:16,800
Speaker 5: I need everywhere.

2922
02:45:17,000 --> 02:45:17,800
Speaker 2: You're out of control.

2923
02:45:23,920 --> 02:45:27,039
Speaker 3: This is what I actually wanted to know when you

2924
02:45:27,080 --> 02:45:30,080
Speaker 3: guys did these records, right, how much did you tour

2925
02:45:30,080 --> 02:45:34,080
Speaker 3: outside of the country internationally a lot? What were the

2926
02:45:34,520 --> 02:45:38,600
Speaker 3: countries that that you remember that that really you enjoyed?

2927
02:45:38,800 --> 02:45:39,520
Speaker 2: All of zuo?

2928
02:45:41,640 --> 02:45:45,080
Speaker 5: Italy is my favorite, really, yeah, because I could see

2929
02:45:45,120 --> 02:45:47,440
Speaker 5: myself living there, so I could.

2930
02:45:47,240 --> 02:45:49,040
Speaker 2: See, you know, they're selling cribs for like a dollar

2931
02:45:49,080 --> 02:45:49,320
Speaker 2: over ye.

2932
02:45:49,440 --> 02:45:52,480
Speaker 5: I could see myself living there and have my own community, right,

2933
02:45:52,920 --> 02:46:02,400
Speaker 5: you know, so, and I would pick I like London

2934
02:46:02,520 --> 02:46:08,160
Speaker 5: is a nice five. I like Japan is the ultimate.

2935
02:46:09,400 --> 02:46:13,480
Speaker 5: Japan is out of this world. You have to be

2936
02:46:13,800 --> 02:46:18,160
Speaker 5: back to normal after you leave Japan. When I come

2937
02:46:18,200 --> 02:46:21,800
Speaker 5: back to Japan, American, my family they don't like the

2938
02:46:21,800 --> 02:46:22,280
Speaker 5: way I love.

2939
02:46:24,400 --> 02:46:28,720
Speaker 2: They say I'm too skinny.

2940
02:46:27,000 --> 02:46:33,600
Speaker 5: Because I'm not eating I'm eating good where their nutrition

2941
02:46:34,120 --> 02:46:39,840
Speaker 5: is one hundred. I'm eating good, so I don't have

2942
02:46:40,040 --> 02:46:44,279
Speaker 5: fat on me, right, So when I come back from Japan,

2943
02:46:44,400 --> 02:46:48,000
Speaker 5: I don't have any fat on me, and then they're

2944
02:46:48,080 --> 02:46:51,199
Speaker 5: pinching me. The women are pinching to see how many

2945
02:46:51,240 --> 02:46:55,000
Speaker 5: inches I'm losing. So now I'm losing and losing. When

2946
02:46:55,000 --> 02:46:58,560
Speaker 5: I come back. My grandmother's mortified because she's one of

2947
02:46:58,600 --> 02:47:03,120
Speaker 5: those grandmothers to say, oh you're not eating, Oh you

2948
02:47:03,200 --> 02:47:07,680
Speaker 5: look too skinny, But that's really healthy in this day

2949
02:47:07,720 --> 02:47:08,160
Speaker 5: and time.

2950
02:47:08,640 --> 02:47:11,800
Speaker 2: That's healthy. So Japan.

2951
02:47:12,600 --> 02:47:14,560
Speaker 3: So you see, I bet you the seeds you guys

2952
02:47:14,560 --> 02:47:19,480
Speaker 3: sold in those early shows. Imagine what would happen if

2953
02:47:19,480 --> 02:47:20,200
Speaker 3: you guys were to.

2954
02:47:20,160 --> 02:47:20,760
Speaker 2: Do it again.

2955
02:47:21,680 --> 02:47:24,080
Speaker 5: If we did it again, it would be a surreal

2956
02:47:24,280 --> 02:47:28,720
Speaker 5: because we're not around each other. It would be like

2957
02:47:28,800 --> 02:47:32,039
Speaker 5: a new thing. Everything would be brand new.

2958
02:47:32,040 --> 02:47:33,600
Speaker 2: And a good word.

2959
02:47:33,640 --> 02:47:35,160
Speaker 1: The best album is nineteen eighty.

2960
02:47:34,959 --> 02:47:39,000
Speaker 5: One, right, the first album was nineteen ninety one, nineteen one?

2961
02:47:39,080 --> 02:47:41,360
Speaker 5: How many years is that for anybody smart here?

2962
02:47:42,800 --> 02:47:47,920
Speaker 2: Thirty three? Thirty yeah, thirty three? Yeah, oh hpiece is

2963
02:47:47,959 --> 02:47:49,720
Speaker 2: thirty and ninety three, So.

2964
02:47:49,720 --> 02:47:56,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, what would my step son was born first, my.

2965
02:47:56,800 --> 02:48:04,400
Speaker 2: Second son was born in nineteen ninety one. What would

2966
02:48:04,440 --> 02:48:07,640
Speaker 2: I like to see that reunion? I think I'm telling

2967
02:48:07,680 --> 02:48:08,960
Speaker 2: you the massive appeal strategy.

2968
02:48:10,360 --> 02:48:12,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna sit this.

2969
02:48:12,360 --> 02:48:16,040
Speaker 3: Make me documentary about this, and then do the album documentary.

2970
02:48:16,440 --> 02:48:19,800
Speaker 2: Album. You need to do a documentary about this fucking.

2971
02:48:19,560 --> 02:48:24,480
Speaker 5: Joint you gave me yes documentary you going around the

2972
02:48:24,520 --> 02:48:28,039
Speaker 5: queens Aws and.

2973
02:48:28,640 --> 02:48:33,000
Speaker 2: I gotta drink water to gas you know, Na, Man,

2974
02:48:33,120 --> 02:48:35,720
Speaker 2: I just want to personally thank you, man.

2975
02:48:37,080 --> 02:48:41,760
Speaker 1: For your contribution to hip hop, contribution to what you're doing,

2976
02:48:42,280 --> 02:48:45,720
Speaker 1: continue to do. I'm gonna be honest with you. Uh

2977
02:48:45,959 --> 02:48:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, I said nas earlier and you know, you know,

2978
02:48:48,480 --> 02:48:50,760
Speaker 1: but if it wasn't for you, it wouldn't be no me.

2979
02:48:51,360 --> 02:48:55,280
Speaker 1: Like it's like, you know, I'm inspired by you and

2980
02:48:55,360 --> 02:49:00,039
Speaker 1: what you guys did and what you did, and I

2981
02:49:00,080 --> 02:49:02,760
Speaker 1: love I love the fact that I was so honored

2982
02:49:03,440 --> 02:49:06,000
Speaker 1: and I'm so happy to give you your flowers face

2983
02:49:06,000 --> 02:49:08,440
Speaker 1: to face man and man because I want you to

2984
02:49:08,520 --> 02:49:12,600
Speaker 1: know how important you are to hip hop, how important

2985
02:49:12,640 --> 02:49:15,359
Speaker 1: you are to us, how important you are to the community,

2986
02:49:15,600 --> 02:49:20,119
Speaker 1: how you're important you are to the fucking culture. Thank you, Yes,

2987
02:49:23,760 --> 02:49:28,040
Speaker 1: And I was I was like so happy, like man,

2988
02:49:29,480 --> 02:49:33,920
Speaker 1: me us we got group chatting, We gotta yeah, we

2989
02:49:34,000 --> 02:49:35,680
Speaker 1: gotta go, yeah feeling.

2990
02:49:37,040 --> 02:49:37,440
Speaker 2: Somewhere.

2991
02:49:37,760 --> 02:49:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeh know, that's that's that's it. But yeah, thank you,

2992
02:49:45,160 --> 02:49:48,040
Speaker 1: my man, Like, thank you, bro, thank you for what

2993
02:49:48,120 --> 02:49:53,280
Speaker 1: you did, because in a lot of ways, if you

2994
02:49:54,160 --> 02:49:57,800
Speaker 1: didn't do what you did, drink chance wouldn't exist because

2995
02:49:57,840 --> 02:50:00,600
Speaker 1: we're all fans of you, all.

2996
02:50:01,920 --> 02:50:07,160
Speaker 2: People that follow you, We're all people that you got

2997
02:50:07,160 --> 02:50:16,520
Speaker 2: me feeling like Karres one see saying see you that you.

2998
02:50:18,879 --> 02:50:20,560
Speaker 1: Yo know you that guy.

2999
02:50:20,600 --> 02:50:24,480
Speaker 5: I went around car Ris one right, I was around

3000
02:50:24,560 --> 02:50:28,960
Speaker 5: kress one man, and I just said, listen, don't talk

3001
02:50:29,000 --> 02:50:32,640
Speaker 5: to me, just let me look at you. Just let

3002
02:50:32,680 --> 02:50:37,200
Speaker 5: me feel what you are first, don't say nothing. And

3003
02:50:37,280 --> 02:50:42,320
Speaker 5: he and we just stared at each other like mm hmm.

3004
02:50:42,480 --> 02:50:49,680
Speaker 5: So you're the blast mask, I said, God, damn you

3005
02:50:49,800 --> 02:50:50,640
Speaker 5: the blast mask.

3006
02:50:51,440 --> 02:50:55,560
Speaker 2: Care listen. I grew up in the right era.

3007
02:50:55,959 --> 02:50:59,880
Speaker 5: I know. I know these young boys, they're young I love.

3008
02:51:01,400 --> 02:51:03,200
Speaker 5: But I was meant to be an old man because

3009
02:51:03,200 --> 02:51:06,400
Speaker 5: I seen a lot more. I seen what I had

3010
02:51:06,440 --> 02:51:10,800
Speaker 5: to see in those days, because you would have never

3011
02:51:10,920 --> 02:51:14,880
Speaker 5: acknowledged it because you wasn't born right you did. Y'all

3012
02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:20,120
Speaker 5: was born. Y'all was born when it was over, when

3013
02:51:20,160 --> 02:51:22,720
Speaker 5: I was in power. So I don't count me. I

3014
02:51:22,800 --> 02:51:26,800
Speaker 5: count the ones before me because they are. They were

3015
02:51:27,000 --> 02:51:31,200
Speaker 5: so charismatic and beautiful and enlightening.

3016
02:51:31,720 --> 02:51:32,760
Speaker 2: That's why I told you.

3017
02:51:32,959 --> 02:51:38,000
Speaker 5: Even some of the worst motherfuckers inspired me. Bad evil

3018
02:51:38,120 --> 02:51:43,240
Speaker 5: motherfuckers inspired me, not to be evil and not to

3019
02:51:43,240 --> 02:51:46,920
Speaker 5: be them. And they told me you could be better

3020
02:51:46,959 --> 02:51:52,360
Speaker 5: than me. Dude, be you. You is better than me.

3021
02:51:54,040 --> 02:51:57,040
Speaker 5: And I loved them for that fire. These are niggas

3022
02:51:57,040 --> 02:52:04,320
Speaker 5: who they kill at will fuck caller duty. These niggas

3023
02:52:04,760 --> 02:52:06,840
Speaker 5: was the duty, all.

3024
02:52:06,800 --> 02:52:08,959
Speaker 2: Right, These niggas with the duty.

3025
02:52:09,320 --> 02:52:16,640
Speaker 1: Right. You know, I'm older than you. Just know what

3026
02:52:16,720 --> 02:52:20,680
Speaker 1: that ship is about, right Because them boys is, yeah,

3027
02:52:20,720 --> 02:52:23,840
Speaker 1: they're not here, but they need their flowers too because

3028
02:52:24,320 --> 02:52:26,400
Speaker 1: they got us to where we need to be.

3029
02:52:26,560 --> 02:52:29,400
Speaker 5: How you're gonna beat Kane and rock Him? How you

3030
02:52:29,520 --> 02:52:33,520
Speaker 5: gonna beat Fat Boys and Public Enemy? How you gonna

3031
02:52:33,520 --> 02:52:36,400
Speaker 5: beat run DMC and ll cool J if you ain't

3032
02:52:36,400 --> 02:52:37,600
Speaker 5: coming with nothing different?

3033
02:52:38,280 --> 02:52:41,600
Speaker 2: How you gonna beat Houdini? Nigga? You can't.

3034
02:52:42,680 --> 02:52:50,080
Speaker 5: You can't come on them boys? Was come on, milk

3035
02:52:50,160 --> 02:52:56,119
Speaker 5: d come on every time he do what yo?

3036
02:52:56,200 --> 02:52:56,840
Speaker 2: Come on man?

3037
02:52:57,480 --> 02:52:59,920
Speaker 5: That's why we got what we got, That's why we

3038
02:53:00,080 --> 02:53:00,920
Speaker 5: live where we live.

3039
02:53:01,520 --> 02:53:04,120
Speaker 1: So how would you end if you if it was

3040
02:53:04,240 --> 02:53:08,440
Speaker 1: all up to you and Mecca and a soul brother?

3041
02:53:08,480 --> 02:53:11,360
Speaker 1: How would you end that legacy? If you can, if

3042
02:53:11,360 --> 02:53:12,560
Speaker 1: it's up to you.

3043
02:53:12,600 --> 02:53:14,800
Speaker 5: See, that's the beautiful part of it is that I

3044
02:53:14,800 --> 02:53:17,520
Speaker 5: couldn't tell you how we we're in. That's a great you,

3045
02:53:17,600 --> 02:53:21,360
Speaker 5: dig I couldn't tell you how we're in because it's not.

3046
02:53:21,560 --> 02:53:27,160
Speaker 2: It's so, it's so like it's it's in space, and.

3047
02:53:27,440 --> 02:53:31,040
Speaker 5: I gotta come and pull it out of space somewhere,

3048
02:53:31,440 --> 02:53:33,320
Speaker 5: and then the nigga gotta like me too.

3049
02:53:34,320 --> 02:53:41,840
Speaker 2: I think. Keep going. It was written, and it was

3050
02:53:41,920 --> 02:53:46,400
Speaker 2: written to be liked. We gotta be respected, because I

3051
02:53:46,480 --> 02:53:47,440
Speaker 2: keep hearing you say that.

3052
02:53:47,480 --> 02:53:51,879
Speaker 1: I keep hearing you say, and for lack of a

3053
02:53:51,920 --> 02:53:54,640
Speaker 1: better term, I keep hearing you say you ain't never

3054
02:53:54,680 --> 02:53:56,000
Speaker 1: had to like me right to.

3055
02:53:56,080 --> 02:54:00,600
Speaker 5: Him and to everybody, to everybody, not just here, okay,

3056
02:54:00,640 --> 02:54:02,200
Speaker 5: because we don't want to isolate him.

3057
02:54:04,600 --> 02:54:11,400
Speaker 2: This is the format. This is how it is with everybody.

3058
02:54:11,520 --> 02:54:12,279
Speaker 2: When you want.

3059
02:54:12,160 --> 02:54:16,640
Speaker 5: Respect, you don't gotta like me, Just respect me. Nigga,

3060
02:54:16,640 --> 02:54:18,080
Speaker 5: don't gotta like my shit.

3061
02:54:18,600 --> 02:54:18,879
Speaker 2: I'm not.

3062
02:54:19,280 --> 02:54:21,920
Speaker 5: I didn't buy the shirt for you to like. I

3063
02:54:22,000 --> 02:54:24,680
Speaker 5: bought the shirt because I like it. But you're gonna

3064
02:54:24,720 --> 02:54:27,200
Speaker 5: respect it because you ain't gonna take it from me.

3065
02:54:28,440 --> 02:54:31,240
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. It's nothing, it's.

3066
02:54:31,120 --> 02:54:34,640
Speaker 5: Nothing complicated, it ain't it ain't rocket science.

3067
02:54:35,160 --> 02:54:37,000
Speaker 2: It's just where you're from.

3068
02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:41,600
Speaker 5: Because I know where I'm from, and I go all

3069
02:54:41,640 --> 02:54:44,240
Speaker 5: over the place, and I know how to conduct myself.

3070
02:54:44,560 --> 02:54:46,680
Speaker 5: We don't got to fake it to make it. We

3071
02:54:46,840 --> 02:54:52,920
Speaker 5: made it in life. We're talking about making a record

3072
02:54:53,080 --> 02:54:55,520
Speaker 5: in the music business, but I made it in life.

3073
02:54:56,680 --> 02:54:59,480
Speaker 5: Come on, you know that I made it in life.

3074
02:54:59,560 --> 02:55:08,119
Speaker 5: Look this one hundred and fifty dollars dollars ship. Come on, yeah, I.

3075
02:55:08,080 --> 02:55:14,200
Speaker 1: Got all type of diamonds. Hash that diamonds hash that

3076
02:55:14,240 --> 02:55:15,720
Speaker 1: should tastes like Jesus. Say.

3077
02:55:15,879 --> 02:55:20,240
Speaker 2: Listen, I didn't know Jesus had a person. Wow, I

3078
02:55:20,280 --> 02:55:24,000
Speaker 2: mean that. I don't even think I ever said that. That'symmetric.

3079
02:55:24,959 --> 02:55:25,840
Speaker 5: I never said that.

3080
02:55:26,000 --> 02:55:27,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, See, I'm a found I never said that.

3081
02:55:28,600 --> 02:55:29,520
Speaker 2: I mean I never said that.

3082
02:55:29,520 --> 02:55:29,920
Speaker 1: I said it.

3083
02:55:29,959 --> 02:55:30,320
Speaker 2: I said that.

3084
02:55:30,879 --> 02:55:39,160
Speaker 5: Listen my spirituality and how this night has went. I've

3085
02:55:39,240 --> 02:55:44,039
Speaker 5: learned something, you know, I've learned something. Okay, what we

3086
02:55:44,120 --> 02:55:52,760
Speaker 5: love that there's levels to this, you know. And Noriega

3087
02:55:52,840 --> 02:55:56,720
Speaker 5: is real. Yes, I mean, Noriega is real, man, Thank

3088
02:55:56,720 --> 02:55:58,160
Speaker 5: you so much. Norriega is real.

3089
02:55:58,280 --> 02:56:03,879
Speaker 1: What But today I'm gonna be honest with you. Me

3090
02:56:04,040 --> 02:56:08,080
Speaker 1: and E f M, my partner, We are so happy

3091
02:56:08,120 --> 02:56:11,960
Speaker 1: to have you here because there was a rumor. Now,

3092
02:56:12,520 --> 02:56:15,560
Speaker 1: let let's get this out there about.

3093
02:56:15,320 --> 02:56:16,879
Speaker 2: It, y'all.

3094
02:56:16,920 --> 02:56:19,640
Speaker 1: To when he came in the room, were close. I

3095
02:56:19,800 --> 02:56:24,160
Speaker 1: was so mad. Were close. I was so mad because

3096
02:56:24,160 --> 02:56:28,880
Speaker 1: they was like yo oh that that CEO wasn't wasn't

3097
02:56:29,000 --> 02:56:29,760
Speaker 1: allowed on.

3098
02:56:29,800 --> 02:56:30,920
Speaker 2: It was like a conspiracy.

3099
02:56:31,360 --> 02:56:34,080
Speaker 1: And I thought it was your fans because your fans

3100
02:56:34,160 --> 02:56:36,280
Speaker 1: is very relentless niggas like they the.

3101
02:56:36,879 --> 02:56:41,119
Speaker 2: Niggas as they should be. But I heard that before.

3102
02:56:41,560 --> 02:56:44,160
Speaker 1: Your fans who started this room now, but they shouldn't

3103
02:56:44,160 --> 02:56:47,160
Speaker 1: start that. But by the way, I've respected the room.

3104
02:56:47,480 --> 02:56:48,199
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

3105
02:56:48,280 --> 02:56:51,320
Speaker 1: It was like just oh ship because because Pete came

3106
02:56:51,360 --> 02:56:55,680
Speaker 1: on here twice and your fans was on our ass.

3107
02:56:55,879 --> 02:56:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm telling pause, oh funk.

3108
02:56:59,680 --> 02:57:04,640
Speaker 3: You were like no, pause pause, so seek.

3109
02:57:05,240 --> 02:57:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, your fans is.

3110
02:57:10,480 --> 02:57:14,840
Speaker 5: On foul. But it was like, what what the fuck

3111
02:57:14,959 --> 02:57:17,840
Speaker 5: is going on? They want everything? Even I like that

3112
02:57:17,920 --> 02:57:21,280
Speaker 5: they fill in my love when my love isn't warranted

3113
02:57:21,480 --> 02:57:24,600
Speaker 5: or welcome, they fill it in. You're gonna love you

3114
02:57:24,680 --> 02:57:28,080
Speaker 5: know that though. I know because that's how I learned

3115
02:57:28,160 --> 02:57:32,200
Speaker 5: to say. Listen, you're gonna respect Peter. You're gonna respect

3116
02:57:32,200 --> 02:57:35,760
Speaker 5: what he did for you. You're gonna respect what y'all did together,

3117
02:57:36,360 --> 02:57:39,640
Speaker 5: and you're gonna love it, you understand, And then you're

3118
02:57:39,640 --> 02:57:42,080
Speaker 5: gonna go about your business. And you got your business.

3119
02:57:42,440 --> 02:57:44,959
Speaker 5: Nobody's nobody's stopping that.

3120
02:57:44,959 --> 02:57:45,520
Speaker 1: That's fine.

3121
02:57:46,240 --> 02:57:50,200
Speaker 5: But when it's time you go back and you go

3122
02:57:50,320 --> 02:57:53,200
Speaker 5: see him, you don't have to be your brother. You

3123
02:57:53,200 --> 02:57:55,400
Speaker 5: don't have to put that expectation on him. You don't

3124
02:57:55,400 --> 02:57:56,880
Speaker 5: have to be your friend. You don't have to put

3125
02:57:56,879 --> 02:58:01,160
Speaker 5: that expectation on him, but you better respect him. You

3126
02:58:01,280 --> 02:58:05,160
Speaker 5: better be serious about your business so you could respect

3127
02:58:05,200 --> 02:58:06,720
Speaker 5: you and then.

3128
02:58:09,440 --> 02:58:10,520
Speaker 2: Do it for the fans.

3129
02:58:10,800 --> 02:58:14,359
Speaker 5: It's not about your bitch ass, it's about the fans.

3130
02:58:14,680 --> 02:58:18,560
Speaker 2: Corey, It's about the fans. He's who he is.

3131
02:58:18,959 --> 02:58:25,160
Speaker 5: Yourself, Yeah, okay, yeah, because you could talk about everybody

3132
02:58:25,200 --> 02:58:28,280
Speaker 5: on this platform. But then you gotta hold yourself accountable too.

3133
02:58:29,640 --> 02:58:32,240
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. You gotta look at yourself too.

3134
02:58:32,520 --> 02:58:34,560
Speaker 5: When you don't look at yourself in the mirror, that's

3135
02:58:34,560 --> 02:58:39,800
Speaker 5: a that's a conversation all in itself, right, that's yeah.

3136
02:58:39,840 --> 02:58:44,040
Speaker 5: So you have to be honest, and when you're honest

3137
02:58:44,320 --> 02:58:50,680
Speaker 5: with yourself, anything is possible. For a solution. I think

3138
02:58:50,800 --> 02:58:55,720
Speaker 5: solution based. I think it I vision it, I live it.

3139
02:58:56,440 --> 02:59:00,520
Speaker 5: Sometimes I sit in one place for a week, but

3140
02:59:00,560 --> 02:59:02,120
Speaker 5: I'm I'm thinking of a solution.

3141
02:59:04,520 --> 02:59:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not.

3142
02:59:05,320 --> 02:59:09,560
Speaker 5: I'm thinking of a solution. Fix and then I'm here

3143
02:59:09,600 --> 02:59:13,080
Speaker 5: to fix it. You ain't moving. And sometimes you could

3144
02:59:13,120 --> 02:59:16,240
Speaker 5: put it on the back burner. It ain't back burners ship.

3145
02:59:17,160 --> 02:59:22,080
Speaker 5: It's about yeah, fix it, because then it'll fix you.

3146
02:59:24,840 --> 02:59:27,600
Speaker 2: Heard, yes? Yeah?

3147
02:59:27,720 --> 02:59:30,320
Speaker 3: Can I tell you my fantastic idea in my mind?

3148
02:59:30,840 --> 02:59:34,360
Speaker 3: My dream, my story is so bad. Let's go that

3149
02:59:34,520 --> 02:59:37,680
Speaker 3: both you and Pete Rock have grown to a place.

3150
02:59:39,440 --> 02:59:42,600
Speaker 3: We're coming together makes the best music that you would

3151
02:59:42,600 --> 02:59:46,600
Speaker 3: have ever possibly made. And like I already said before,

3152
02:59:46,600 --> 02:59:49,600
Speaker 3: with the business strategy, Massive Field or a company like

3153
02:59:49,680 --> 02:59:55,160
Speaker 3: mass a Field comes in because does the documentary document

3154
02:59:55,280 --> 02:59:59,040
Speaker 3: produces the album and tours it around the world, and

3155
02:59:59,080 --> 03:00:02,760
Speaker 3: it's a phenomena and it's and it changes.

3156
03:00:03,680 --> 03:00:05,440
Speaker 2: It does what this does today?

3157
03:00:06,360 --> 03:00:08,560
Speaker 1: Massa Bill just signed our soul as well, right.

3158
03:00:09,040 --> 03:00:11,800
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, believe so yes, So.

3159
03:00:13,080 --> 03:00:16,720
Speaker 5: If that happened, I would just put my hat on's

3160
03:00:16,720 --> 03:00:19,040
Speaker 5: say yeah.

3161
03:00:18,120 --> 03:00:18,800
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

3162
03:00:19,879 --> 03:00:29,760
Speaker 2: We need making the Soul brothers together. I'm gonna be

3163
03:00:29,800 --> 03:00:30,320
Speaker 2: on the plane.

3164
03:00:30,400 --> 03:00:33,640
Speaker 3: Nice You're don't be flying before the plane flies.

3165
03:00:34,080 --> 03:00:35,680
Speaker 2: That's what you want, That's what I want.

3166
03:00:36,480 --> 03:00:41,039
Speaker 1: And see, let me just speak on behalf of hip

3167
03:00:41,080 --> 03:00:43,920
Speaker 1: hop again. I know I said to you earlier, but

3168
03:00:43,920 --> 03:00:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it to you again because to me,

3169
03:00:45,640 --> 03:00:47,600
Speaker 1: that must to me, and it means that must of

3170
03:00:47,640 --> 03:00:49,440
Speaker 1: this room, and it means much of the hip hop.

3171
03:00:50,160 --> 03:00:52,959
Speaker 2: Thank you again, man, thank you like thank you, thank

3172
03:00:53,000 --> 03:00:53,320
Speaker 2: you for.

3173
03:00:55,400 --> 03:00:58,400
Speaker 1: You know, changing the game, thank you for making the

3174
03:00:58,480 --> 03:01:01,320
Speaker 1: game what it's supposed to be. Thank you for you know,

3175
03:01:01,760 --> 03:01:05,200
Speaker 1: continuing to do your motherfucking thing, and thank you for

3176
03:01:05,280 --> 03:01:13,200
Speaker 1: being motherfucking modest like and.

3177
03:01:10,520 --> 03:01:12,879
Speaker 2: And I can't lie to you like you do.

3178
03:01:15,440 --> 03:01:18,520
Speaker 1: You and Pete, I don't ever really want to know

3179
03:01:19,879 --> 03:01:21,440
Speaker 1: really what it is.

3180
03:01:21,480 --> 03:01:23,440
Speaker 2: If it is something, I told you what it is

3181
03:01:23,520 --> 03:01:25,080
Speaker 2: and we talked about all of it.

3182
03:01:25,360 --> 03:01:28,080
Speaker 5: I told you what it is. Okay, there's two men

3183
03:01:29,840 --> 03:01:32,480
Speaker 5: that are doing business and got to do business a

3184
03:01:32,520 --> 03:01:35,000
Speaker 5: certain way. Alls we gotta do is be in the

3185
03:01:35,080 --> 03:01:38,560
Speaker 5: same room. And that's it, right, you understand. But I

3186
03:01:38,680 --> 03:01:41,760
Speaker 5: like the space he's in. I like what he's doing.

3187
03:01:42,200 --> 03:01:43,280
Speaker 5: I love that you say that.

3188
03:01:43,400 --> 03:01:44,080
Speaker 2: I like that.

3189
03:01:44,800 --> 03:01:47,840
Speaker 5: I don't want him in a dark space coming back

3190
03:01:47,879 --> 03:01:51,400
Speaker 5: to me, thinking he's settling. I want him at the

3191
03:01:51,440 --> 03:01:54,280
Speaker 5: top of his shit. I want him with new money.

3192
03:01:54,920 --> 03:01:57,920
Speaker 5: I want him with all the vision in the world

3193
03:01:57,920 --> 03:02:02,160
Speaker 5: to say I bought new glasses for you, baby. Everything

3194
03:02:02,160 --> 03:02:06,480
Speaker 5: you guys do, because I know I need inspiration too,

3195
03:02:07,000 --> 03:02:08,879
Speaker 5: because I don't know you and you don't know me

3196
03:02:09,000 --> 03:02:09,440
Speaker 5: no more.

3197
03:02:10,280 --> 03:02:10,840
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

3198
03:02:11,080 --> 03:02:15,480
Speaker 5: Let me reduce, let me reintroduce, because I'm like yellow Stone.

3199
03:02:16,400 --> 03:02:19,680
Speaker 5: I just got this peace and the other big boys

3200
03:02:19,720 --> 03:02:23,119
Speaker 5: want to eat it. And I've been too busy protecting

3201
03:02:23,160 --> 03:02:27,480
Speaker 5: that yellow stone for you to come in and tell me, nigga, how.

3202
03:02:27,400 --> 03:02:28,200
Speaker 2: To keep it.

3203
03:02:29,160 --> 03:02:32,680
Speaker 5: Break it off more and give me another yellow Stone, nigga,

3204
03:02:32,760 --> 03:02:34,520
Speaker 5: and we don't gotta talk again.

3205
03:02:36,200 --> 03:02:37,000
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna.

3206
03:02:38,720 --> 03:02:43,600
Speaker 5: Real that yellow stone.

3207
03:02:44,120 --> 03:02:50,720
Speaker 1: Leave me alone. That shit is so beautiful, man, But

3208
03:02:51,280 --> 03:02:52,400
Speaker 1: I can't afford the love.

3209
03:02:53,480 --> 03:02:56,520
Speaker 5: Can't you afford the love? Yes, I can afford the love.

3210
03:02:57,120 --> 03:03:01,000
Speaker 5: Can't you afford the love? Absolutely? What are you talking about?

3211
03:03:02,200 --> 03:03:05,279
Speaker 5: When we gotta fight for the cow, that's when it's serious.

3212
03:03:06,520 --> 03:03:06,840
Speaker 1: M M.

3213
03:03:07,560 --> 03:03:10,760
Speaker 5: When we when we gotta fight for vegetation, that's when

3214
03:03:10,800 --> 03:03:13,640
Speaker 5: it's serious. What you mean you can't talk to me?

3215
03:03:14,640 --> 03:03:17,760
Speaker 5: Sip some of this white Hennessey and do what you.

3216
03:03:17,680 --> 03:03:20,520
Speaker 1: Do awesome green tea because I heard your green tea.

3217
03:03:20,560 --> 03:03:25,840
Speaker 2: I love green tea. You're like, you got a private eye.

3218
03:03:27,240 --> 03:03:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah he does. You got you, You got your ship.

3219
03:03:32,840 --> 03:03:37,640
Speaker 2: You like that ship? What's that ship? Whack one hundred?

3220
03:03:38,480 --> 03:03:41,279
Speaker 2: Was that another? Yes? You you do your homework.

3221
03:03:42,240 --> 03:03:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know you're a gardener too. Man.

3222
03:03:45,560 --> 03:03:50,120
Speaker 5: You like the Supreme Team Supreme team bro.

3223
03:03:50,240 --> 03:03:53,480
Speaker 1: So you're drinking green tea and then you a gardener.

3224
03:03:53,720 --> 03:03:55,560
Speaker 2: I love God, I love flowers.

3225
03:03:56,400 --> 03:04:00,280
Speaker 5: How I love that ship because if you know what

3226
03:04:01,720 --> 03:04:03,480
Speaker 5: it's all in the woman, you picked two.

3227
03:04:04,560 --> 03:04:06,480
Speaker 2: But if ain't nothing growing around.

3228
03:04:06,160 --> 03:04:12,000
Speaker 1: You, you are suspecting this.

3229
03:04:12,080 --> 03:04:15,240
Speaker 2: Ship gotta be growing around you. Ship gotta be like.

3230
03:04:17,200 --> 03:04:19,840
Speaker 5: I used to have a dog, So you gotta feed it,

3231
03:04:20,000 --> 03:04:21,840
Speaker 5: you gotta walk it, you gotta train it.

3232
03:04:22,879 --> 03:04:25,720
Speaker 2: Ship gotta be elevating around you for you to be.

3233
03:04:25,800 --> 03:04:29,160
Speaker 5: Something like, fuck you mean I used to only have

3234
03:04:29,200 --> 03:04:33,080
Speaker 5: a dog in a gym card when I lost all

3235
03:04:33,160 --> 03:04:39,520
Speaker 5: my money. A dog, a dog a gym card, come

3236
03:04:39,600 --> 03:04:46,720
Speaker 5: up from there. The dog protects you and then you

3237
03:04:46,760 --> 03:04:51,120
Speaker 5: go to the gym and bill your ship. Yeah it

3238
03:04:51,320 --> 03:04:57,039
Speaker 5: was yeah, not only one, two of them, because I.

3239
03:04:57,000 --> 03:05:00,240
Speaker 2: Had black was the first one, then Rocker was the

3240
03:05:00,280 --> 03:05:06,360
Speaker 2: second one unrelated to DMX dog the second one. Both

3241
03:05:06,760 --> 03:05:09,360
Speaker 2: both come on, but the second one is specially.

3242
03:05:11,200 --> 03:05:15,600
Speaker 5: But listen, yeah, because listen, you're getting it from Yonkers right,

3243
03:05:16,120 --> 03:05:19,119
Speaker 5: then you're getting it from his litter. Then you're picking

3244
03:05:19,160 --> 03:05:22,360
Speaker 5: from the same litter. How am I not gonna get

3245
03:05:22,360 --> 03:05:24,280
Speaker 5: a dog from him? How is he not gonna give

3246
03:05:24,320 --> 03:05:24,840
Speaker 5: me a dog?

3247
03:05:26,040 --> 03:05:26,120
Speaker 1: No?

3248
03:05:26,280 --> 03:05:29,840
Speaker 5: I'm serious. How is DMX not gonna give me a dog?

3249
03:05:30,520 --> 03:05:33,720
Speaker 5: How is DMX friend not gonna give me a dog?

3250
03:05:34,040 --> 03:05:36,760
Speaker 5: How was the one DMX look up to not gonna

3251
03:05:36,800 --> 03:05:37,520
Speaker 5: give me a dog?

3252
03:05:37,840 --> 03:05:38,440
Speaker 2: Especially?

3253
03:05:39,560 --> 03:05:43,520
Speaker 5: You know my cachet is heavy because I don't talk

3254
03:05:43,560 --> 03:05:49,800
Speaker 5: about it, don't mean it ain't happy.

3255
03:05:51,560 --> 03:05:53,600
Speaker 3: Shure, not for nothing. The way you just said dog

3256
03:05:53,760 --> 03:05:55,400
Speaker 3: every time I felt.

3257
03:05:55,120 --> 03:06:01,720
Speaker 2: Like you could tell felt.

3258
03:06:02,959 --> 03:06:06,400
Speaker 5: The dog was the one that had kept me from

3259
03:06:06,480 --> 03:06:07,840
Speaker 5: walking around the hood.

3260
03:06:07,840 --> 03:06:08,320
Speaker 2: The dog.

3261
03:06:08,400 --> 03:06:11,920
Speaker 5: When you lose your money, you're limited, so the dog

3262
03:06:12,240 --> 03:06:15,560
Speaker 5: keeps you from everybody talking to you till you.

3263
03:06:15,560 --> 03:06:17,960
Speaker 2: Get your shit together because the dog is keeping them all.

3264
03:06:18,040 --> 03:06:19,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you got your gym card, so get

3265
03:06:20,000 --> 03:06:22,520
Speaker 5: your body in your mind together and then something will happened.

3266
03:06:23,600 --> 03:06:26,520
Speaker 5: So see how all things fall into place? You know

3267
03:06:26,520 --> 03:06:28,440
Speaker 5: what I'm saying when I read the Book of Job,

3268
03:06:28,600 --> 03:06:30,840
Speaker 5: that's how I see my life a little bit like,

3269
03:06:31,480 --> 03:06:35,240
Speaker 5: oh shit, not that drastic, but just about there. Lose

3270
03:06:35,280 --> 03:06:39,039
Speaker 5: all your shit to get more and learn more and

3271
03:06:39,959 --> 03:06:42,160
Speaker 5: rock bottom. You can have a lot of shit, but

3272
03:06:42,280 --> 03:06:45,120
Speaker 5: can you keep it? You can have a lot of shit,

3273
03:06:45,680 --> 03:06:48,040
Speaker 5: but can you keep it? Do you know how to

3274
03:06:48,120 --> 03:06:49,800
Speaker 5: keep it? Do you know how to nurture it and

3275
03:06:49,879 --> 03:06:53,880
Speaker 5: water it? Like a flower? And that's what you want, man.

3276
03:06:53,959 --> 03:06:56,320
Speaker 5: You want that flower to grow. You want that tree

3277
03:06:56,360 --> 03:06:59,320
Speaker 5: to grow. So twenty years from now or thirty years

3278
03:06:59,320 --> 03:07:01,800
Speaker 5: from now, when you dead, they say, yo, remember he

3279
03:07:02,160 --> 03:07:05,720
Speaker 5: used to water that spot over there. Yeah, that ship

3280
03:07:05,800 --> 03:07:20,240
Speaker 5: is a big ass tree. Now, punk ass nigga.

3281
03:07:16,440 --> 03:07:16,920
Speaker 2: You'll see.

3282
03:07:17,160 --> 03:07:17,360
Speaker 5: Man.

3283
03:07:18,080 --> 03:07:21,160
Speaker 1: I gotta thank you again, man for being exactly who

3284
03:07:21,240 --> 03:07:23,320
Speaker 1: you are exactly.

3285
03:07:23,959 --> 03:07:25,879
Speaker 5: I just love it up here because I didn't know

3286
03:07:25,959 --> 03:07:27,920
Speaker 5: it was like that. I used to always watch it

3287
03:07:27,959 --> 03:07:31,680
Speaker 5: on my phone. This is your house though, yeah you

3288
03:07:31,720 --> 03:07:34,200
Speaker 5: don't really know it's your house, but just like you.

3289
03:07:34,360 --> 03:07:36,279
Speaker 2: Got to come through the house and take off these.

3290
03:07:36,160 --> 03:07:42,520
Speaker 5: Guys, like these guys, it's the professionalism. It's who you

3291
03:07:42,560 --> 03:07:46,920
Speaker 5: are organically and how you have a platform. And you say,

3292
03:07:47,240 --> 03:07:51,560
Speaker 5: how do these guys do that. They're organic. They're where

3293
03:07:51,560 --> 03:07:52,760
Speaker 5: they are thank.

3294
03:07:52,560 --> 03:07:52,800
Speaker 1: You, not.

3295
03:07:57,280 --> 03:08:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but because they worked so hard a game.

3296
03:08:01,280 --> 03:08:04,360
Speaker 5: That thing like when you see them, when you see

3297
03:08:04,520 --> 03:08:06,920
Speaker 5: these announcers, when you see people on that.

3298
03:08:06,959 --> 03:08:11,879
Speaker 1: And your legend brother and just say something, you are

3299
03:08:11,920 --> 03:08:16,959
Speaker 1: a person that deserve you know, like like I kid

3300
03:08:17,000 --> 03:08:20,760
Speaker 1: you not. I feel like you raised everyone in this

3301
03:08:20,879 --> 03:08:24,520
Speaker 1: fucking room, like we all owe you. Like if you

3302
03:08:24,560 --> 03:08:28,879
Speaker 1: want some fried ticket, we gonna get you. Gotcha made

3303
03:08:28,920 --> 03:08:32,119
Speaker 1: this platform for for you. We made this platform for you. Listen.

3304
03:08:32,560 --> 03:08:37,120
Speaker 5: I appreciate it because I've never got I've never had

3305
03:08:37,160 --> 03:08:42,959
Speaker 5: to being around brothers like yourself and really chop it up, yes,

3306
03:08:43,560 --> 03:08:47,760
Speaker 5: and really be organic around the camera that I can say,

3307
03:08:48,600 --> 03:08:51,320
Speaker 5: I didn't even know it was there. I was just

3308
03:08:51,360 --> 03:08:53,760
Speaker 5: giving them a piece of me. Like you know, I

3309
03:08:53,879 --> 03:08:56,760
Speaker 5: wasn't out to hurt nobody. I was just I just

3310
03:08:56,920 --> 03:08:59,760
Speaker 5: love everybody, you know what I mean. But at the

3311
03:08:59,800 --> 03:09:06,160
Speaker 5: same time, I'm to be taken seriously. I want I want,

3312
03:09:06,520 --> 03:09:08,760
Speaker 5: I want you to understand that I'm a man like

3313
03:09:08,840 --> 03:09:13,000
Speaker 5: you are. Yes, and sometimes when you say it, it's

3314
03:09:13,040 --> 03:09:13,879
Speaker 5: not to be said.

3315
03:09:15,879 --> 03:09:16,959
Speaker 2: I'm never saying it.

3316
03:09:17,680 --> 03:09:21,320
Speaker 5: I just want you to acknowledge it, and even if

3317
03:09:21,320 --> 03:09:26,080
Speaker 5: you don't be on the path to do it, you know,

3318
03:09:26,800 --> 03:09:29,880
Speaker 5: because there's so much shit out here. I didn't know

3319
03:09:29,959 --> 03:09:33,040
Speaker 5: that these young kids was making all this money and

3320
03:09:33,040 --> 03:09:37,000
Speaker 5: then they're dying. I didn't know like it was like that,

3321
03:09:37,200 --> 03:09:41,120
Speaker 5: and I have to acknowledge it. I can easily ignore

3322
03:09:41,160 --> 03:09:43,199
Speaker 5: it because it's not a part of me. But that's

3323
03:09:43,240 --> 03:09:47,240
Speaker 5: not charity. Charity is something that got nothing to do

3324
03:09:47,320 --> 03:09:52,040
Speaker 5: with you, and you you want to help it, but

3325
03:09:52,080 --> 03:09:54,480
Speaker 5: it got nothing to do with your life. But you

3326
03:09:54,640 --> 03:09:59,400
Speaker 5: see millionaires dying as little kids, and you're saying that,

3327
03:09:59,440 --> 03:10:03,040
Speaker 5: ain't fuck it un fear when I see a young

3328
03:10:03,040 --> 03:10:08,280
Speaker 5: white kid and a young European kid, and even a

3329
03:10:08,320 --> 03:10:13,880
Speaker 5: young African kid have something in my American young black

3330
03:10:14,000 --> 03:10:18,240
Speaker 5: kid can't have nothing, and my Spanish kid can't have nothing,

3331
03:10:19,200 --> 03:10:23,360
Speaker 5: you know, because they're destroying them and they're having all

3332
03:10:23,600 --> 03:10:26,360
Speaker 5: what they want and they're still dying and taking their

3333
03:10:26,400 --> 03:10:27,520
Speaker 5: lives away from them.

3334
03:10:28,000 --> 03:10:31,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know what to I wouldn't know what.

3335
03:10:31,440 --> 03:10:35,640
Speaker 5: It's like to spend time in jail like that with

3336
03:10:35,640 --> 03:10:39,640
Speaker 5: with any type of money I have right now, unless

3337
03:10:39,680 --> 03:10:44,240
Speaker 5: you hurt my family, you know what I'm saying. But

3338
03:10:45,320 --> 03:10:50,400
Speaker 5: the stories it's like you're taking us a thousand steps

3339
03:10:50,440 --> 03:10:56,080
Speaker 5: back to be a slave to what this is a music,

3340
03:10:56,160 --> 03:10:59,360
Speaker 5: So it's a lose lose. I don't understand it. I

3341
03:10:59,400 --> 03:11:04,000
Speaker 5: want somebody to teach me this finally in hip hop,

3342
03:11:04,080 --> 03:11:06,600
Speaker 5: I don't know about. I want to just be.

3343
03:11:06,640 --> 03:11:09,920
Speaker 2: Taught, Like how does that work?

3344
03:11:10,400 --> 03:11:13,800
Speaker 5: I'm not criticizing no more because I know you took

3345
03:11:13,840 --> 03:11:16,640
Speaker 5: the best shit out of you. You know what I'm saying.

3346
03:11:16,720 --> 03:11:20,160
Speaker 5: When you took pop smoke, you took the best shit ever.

3347
03:11:21,480 --> 03:11:25,400
Speaker 5: That was that Tupac shit. So I agree with you, you.

3348
03:11:25,360 --> 03:11:26,000
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

3349
03:11:26,680 --> 03:11:30,720
Speaker 5: Sometimes these young niggas feel they're so young they don't

3350
03:11:30,760 --> 03:11:34,520
Speaker 5: know what's happening, like like they just it dies and

3351
03:11:34,560 --> 03:11:35,000
Speaker 5: that's it.

3352
03:11:35,600 --> 03:11:38,640
Speaker 2: But to an older nigga, you like, you know that's

3353
03:11:38,680 --> 03:11:40,240
Speaker 2: it for real? Do you know?

3354
03:11:40,320 --> 03:11:41,160
Speaker 1: That's it for real?

3355
03:11:42,280 --> 03:11:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

3356
03:11:42,640 --> 03:11:44,119
Speaker 2: Like you think you took pop.

3357
03:11:43,959 --> 03:11:47,160
Speaker 5: Smoking that that's and I'm not even on it like that,

3358
03:11:47,280 --> 03:11:50,520
Speaker 5: but I know what it means when you did that.

3359
03:11:52,600 --> 03:11:56,360
Speaker 5: I know what it means when you did that, So

3360
03:11:56,600 --> 03:12:00,760
Speaker 5: I'm I just want to learn, like, like how do

3361
03:12:00,840 --> 03:12:05,080
Speaker 5: you how do you like get past that and go

3362
03:12:05,280 --> 03:12:08,119
Speaker 5: to him and say I want to protect you Are

3363
03:12:08,120 --> 03:12:09,960
Speaker 5: you protecting him?

3364
03:12:10,280 --> 03:12:14,520
Speaker 2: Are you protecting him so he won't die? Like you

3365
03:12:14,640 --> 03:12:15,600
Speaker 2: kill King Vaughan?

3366
03:12:15,760 --> 03:12:20,600
Speaker 5: Like you kill ship that I don't I don't understand,

3367
03:12:21,440 --> 03:12:22,840
Speaker 5: Like why are you killing them?

3368
03:12:23,959 --> 03:12:28,320
Speaker 6: Aren't they your ship? Aren't they our ship? You know

3369
03:12:28,360 --> 03:12:29,560
Speaker 6: what you're talking about?

3370
03:12:29,720 --> 03:12:32,400
Speaker 2: Like what are you doing? What do you what do

3371
03:12:32,440 --> 03:12:34,959
Speaker 2: you want? Are you doing it for?

3372
03:12:35,080 --> 03:12:35,320
Speaker 5: Who?

3373
03:12:35,480 --> 03:12:36,840
Speaker 2: How much money do you want?

3374
03:12:37,000 --> 03:12:37,160
Speaker 1: To?

3375
03:12:37,200 --> 03:12:37,760
Speaker 2: Not kill that?

3376
03:12:39,760 --> 03:12:45,560
Speaker 5: They're destroying the families of these guys they have kids?

3377
03:12:45,680 --> 03:12:49,039
Speaker 5: What I don't understand what you want. I just want

3378
03:12:49,040 --> 03:12:53,360
Speaker 5: to learn, Like I'm out of it. Just let me

3379
03:12:53,440 --> 03:12:58,520
Speaker 5: learn what you're doing and then were good? Like let

3380
03:12:58,560 --> 03:13:00,760
Speaker 5: me learn why you gotta die? Why you got to

3381
03:13:00,760 --> 03:13:04,600
Speaker 5: think about why you got to think about when it's

3382
03:13:04,640 --> 03:13:09,000
Speaker 5: important to like let people see you, travel around the world,

3383
03:13:09,160 --> 03:13:15,160
Speaker 5: see your options. Why are you and rykers Island? Who

3384
03:13:15,200 --> 03:13:18,720
Speaker 5: can talk to you? Okay? You getting millions and you

3385
03:13:18,800 --> 03:13:25,039
Speaker 5: still go to jail? Why you and that doesn't affect nothing?

3386
03:13:26,240 --> 03:13:30,080
Speaker 5: You not doing shows you in prison, that doesn't affect nothing.

3387
03:13:30,520 --> 03:13:31,119
Speaker 2: For what.

3388
03:13:32,840 --> 03:13:36,480
Speaker 5: I'm just asking, is a gang more important than your family?

3389
03:13:36,560 --> 03:13:39,400
Speaker 5: I just want to know, Like who's your true gang?

3390
03:13:39,600 --> 03:13:43,400
Speaker 5: Like like my true gang is my grandpa? Like I

3391
03:13:43,560 --> 03:13:47,240
Speaker 5: killed for that like me, I killed for it. Would

3392
03:13:47,280 --> 03:13:50,520
Speaker 5: you see you in a chain? You had a chain on?

3393
03:13:50,640 --> 03:13:50,760
Speaker 1: What?

3394
03:13:51,240 --> 03:13:51,400
Speaker 6: Yeah?

3395
03:13:51,520 --> 03:13:55,240
Speaker 5: With my grandpa, your grandfather? Because that's CEO Smooth. That's

3396
03:13:55,280 --> 03:13:59,200
Speaker 5: where I got it from. What do you kill for?

3397
03:14:00,120 --> 03:14:02,840
Speaker 5: You killed to impress this man? Or do you kill

3398
03:14:02,920 --> 03:14:05,720
Speaker 5: to put food on your table? If I got seven

3399
03:14:05,760 --> 03:14:10,760
Speaker 5: eight million, I'm not killing nothing. Let me just be

3400
03:14:10,840 --> 03:14:13,840
Speaker 5: honest with you, because you teach me why you got

3401
03:14:13,840 --> 03:14:17,200
Speaker 5: to hurt somebody that got nothing, that's in the Bronx

3402
03:14:17,320 --> 03:14:21,000
Speaker 5: or Brooklyn or Queens. You could be anywhere in the world,

3403
03:14:21,040 --> 03:14:24,440
Speaker 5: but they here, and they might be special, and you

3404
03:14:24,640 --> 03:14:25,400
Speaker 5: killing them?

3405
03:14:26,600 --> 03:14:28,760
Speaker 2: Why so me?

3406
03:14:28,959 --> 03:14:33,400
Speaker 5: I guess life is valuable when you when you look

3407
03:14:33,640 --> 03:14:37,280
Speaker 5: like this, when you act like this, I feel like

3408
03:14:37,720 --> 03:14:44,000
Speaker 5: life is valuable. Is that important to you? Do you

3409
03:14:44,080 --> 03:14:47,000
Speaker 5: feel me or you don't feel me? I need a

3410
03:14:47,080 --> 03:14:50,240
Speaker 5: gun to make you feel me. I'm showing you how

3411
03:14:50,280 --> 03:14:52,480
Speaker 5: to get away from it. You want to go to

3412
03:14:52,560 --> 03:14:56,480
Speaker 5: them niggas, Like I don't even fuck with niggas?

3413
03:14:57,400 --> 03:14:57,880
Speaker 1: What is that?

3414
03:14:59,040 --> 03:15:02,880
Speaker 5: When we growing that out of it? We want to

3415
03:15:02,959 --> 03:15:06,840
Speaker 5: live around neighbors. Dad, ain't trying to shoot us, ain't

3416
03:15:06,879 --> 03:15:09,440
Speaker 5: trying to rob us. Don't want to know how much

3417
03:15:09,480 --> 03:15:13,119
Speaker 5: money we got in our house. Why can't we work

3418
03:15:13,240 --> 03:15:18,280
Speaker 5: like that? What kind of president are we getting? I'm

3419
03:15:18,280 --> 03:15:22,280
Speaker 5: never in the politics, but the way is working. They're

3420
03:15:22,360 --> 03:15:26,600
Speaker 5: forcing you to think about politics, Like what do you

3421
03:15:26,680 --> 03:15:27,240
Speaker 5: want from me?

3422
03:15:28,560 --> 03:15:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't care. I grew up in the old New York.

3423
03:15:31,959 --> 03:15:40,920
Speaker 5: I don't care like New Yorkers be everywhere, to be everywhere, But.

3424
03:15:40,879 --> 03:15:41,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to.

3425
03:15:41,560 --> 03:15:43,680
Speaker 5: I don't want to think about things that you forced

3426
03:15:43,720 --> 03:15:45,400
Speaker 5: me to think about in this society.

3427
03:15:46,120 --> 03:15:47,360
Speaker 2: That's why I'm an introvert.

3428
03:15:47,400 --> 03:15:52,600
Speaker 5: That's why I think soaking up family is more important.

3429
03:15:52,680 --> 03:15:57,280
Speaker 5: Is somebody who just wants likes their own company and

3430
03:15:57,360 --> 03:15:58,760
Speaker 5: not the company of others.

3431
03:15:59,720 --> 03:16:01,800
Speaker 2: I could be somewhere by.

3432
03:16:01,640 --> 03:16:09,280
Speaker 5: Myself on my compound, not where I gotta be entertained

3433
03:16:09,320 --> 03:16:13,560
Speaker 5: by something. So when I come out, I understand when

3434
03:16:13,720 --> 03:16:18,480
Speaker 5: a person is in sahu, a person is in the box.

3435
03:16:19,640 --> 03:16:23,640
Speaker 5: A person can spend a pandemic in a room and

3436
03:16:23,720 --> 03:16:25,879
Speaker 5: don't come out the house. But you stay in the

3437
03:16:26,040 --> 03:16:29,240
Speaker 5: room in the house. You don't just roam the house.

3438
03:16:29,280 --> 03:16:32,520
Speaker 5: You stay in the room. You gotta be conditioned for that,

3439
03:16:34,680 --> 03:16:39,120
Speaker 5: and I'm crazy for that. I'm intrigued by that because

3440
03:16:39,120 --> 03:16:43,080
Speaker 5: my life is based on that how society is going

3441
03:16:43,160 --> 03:16:48,760
Speaker 5: where you're gonna have to box yourself in and it

3442
03:16:48,800 --> 03:16:51,280
Speaker 5: ain't gonna be no choice because you see, it's that

3443
03:16:51,520 --> 03:16:53,360
Speaker 5: they're breaking you into something that we.

3444
03:16:53,400 --> 03:16:56,000
Speaker 2: Never heard of. Sure, you know what I'm saying, We

3445
03:16:56,120 --> 03:16:56,840
Speaker 2: never heard of that.

3446
03:16:57,160 --> 03:17:00,800
Speaker 5: And the music is what comes to say, savage beast,

3447
03:17:00,920 --> 03:17:04,920
Speaker 5: that that's what makes things operate and move in a

3448
03:17:05,040 --> 03:17:09,000
Speaker 5: life that is dormant, and then you have some rhythm

3449
03:17:09,040 --> 03:17:11,280
Speaker 5: to it and then we move in.

3450
03:17:13,360 --> 03:17:13,880
Speaker 2: He loves it.

3451
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Speaker 5: But you know I'm serious because I'm I think if

3452
03:17:20,000 --> 03:17:23,520
Speaker 5: I sit here and sip and smoke and not give

3453
03:17:23,640 --> 03:17:27,000
Speaker 5: something to the youth, it's you know what I'm saying,

3454
03:17:27,440 --> 03:17:32,480
Speaker 5: It's not they have to connect like a trainer, you

3455
03:17:32,520 --> 03:17:36,440
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Even Creed needed a rocky, you

3456
03:17:36,480 --> 03:17:39,400
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So it's who's teaching you, not

3457
03:17:39,560 --> 03:17:42,840
Speaker 5: what you know. It's who's teaching you what you know

3458
03:17:43,400 --> 03:17:47,039
Speaker 5: to make you a success. Not every teacher know how

3459
03:17:47,080 --> 03:17:50,160
Speaker 5: to bring you to the home run, but experience will.

3460
03:17:50,240 --> 03:17:58,040
Speaker 5: But experience will, and knowing rhythm and sound and adaptation.

3461
03:17:58,760 --> 03:18:01,879
Speaker 5: When you can adapt, when you can be uncomfortable to

3462
03:18:01,959 --> 03:18:07,119
Speaker 5: get comfortable, you're a bad man, you're a bad man.

3463
03:18:08,360 --> 03:18:09,400
Speaker 2: You're a bad man.

3464
03:18:14,400 --> 03:18:17,400
Speaker 1: So anything else letter you want to say it to

3465
03:18:17,480 --> 03:18:20,280
Speaker 1: your fans, I.

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03:18:20,240 --> 03:18:23,440
Speaker 5: Gave it to them because you can come up here

3467
03:18:23,440 --> 03:18:25,800
Speaker 5: and you can be anything you want to be. But

3468
03:18:25,959 --> 03:18:33,160
Speaker 5: authentic is what you want to be. You wanna, you wanna,

3469
03:18:33,400 --> 03:18:36,800
Speaker 5: you want to show that you love people's at the

3470
03:18:36,920 --> 03:18:38,640
Speaker 5: end of the day, you love people.

3471
03:18:38,800 --> 03:18:40,199
Speaker 2: You love their progress.

3472
03:18:40,760 --> 03:18:43,680
Speaker 5: You love when they upgrade, You love when they come

3473
03:18:43,720 --> 03:18:46,959
Speaker 5: home to the house they love. You love when they

3474
03:18:47,040 --> 03:18:49,600
Speaker 5: progress and do what they want to do in life

3475
03:18:49,640 --> 03:18:53,320
Speaker 5: and be proud of themselves. So that's what you want

3476
03:18:54,400 --> 03:18:58,120
Speaker 5: other people to be grater than you when you are

3477
03:18:58,680 --> 03:19:01,640
Speaker 5: no way your life is and how it's going in

3478
03:19:02,720 --> 03:19:08,760
Speaker 5: you know, and you say, hey, baby, my greatest things

3479
03:19:08,800 --> 03:19:13,680
Speaker 5: I lost they up there. When I do shows, it's

3480
03:19:13,720 --> 03:19:16,560
Speaker 5: not about the people down here, it's about the people

3481
03:19:16,680 --> 03:19:20,720
Speaker 5: up there. And that's what makes that song so crazy,

3482
03:19:21,160 --> 03:19:24,680
Speaker 5: is that I could feel my ancestors they dancing, they

3483
03:19:24,800 --> 03:19:28,760
Speaker 5: going all year that African shit, and they going that

3484
03:19:28,959 --> 03:19:32,720
Speaker 5: Cape Verdean shit, and they going through those islands of

3485
03:19:32,800 --> 03:19:38,360
Speaker 5: the Cape Verdians and they're going, yeah, do it because

3486
03:19:38,400 --> 03:19:41,840
Speaker 5: they used to live to one hundred and something.

3487
03:19:43,400 --> 03:19:46,520
Speaker 2: Could you believe they used to live to one hundred

3488
03:19:46,640 --> 03:19:47,040
Speaker 2: and something.

3489
03:19:47,080 --> 03:19:49,760
Speaker 5: I had a great grandfather that lived one hundred and

3490
03:19:49,840 --> 03:19:50,640
Speaker 5: something years.

3491
03:19:52,280 --> 03:19:56,360
Speaker 2: I just want to touch one hundred. Give it to me.

3492
03:19:58,080 --> 03:20:02,240
Speaker 5: If they said, hey, you could see your grandfather, but

3493
03:20:02,280 --> 03:20:05,080
Speaker 5: you got to give up all your shit and you

3494
03:20:05,120 --> 03:20:07,920
Speaker 5: could see him for fifteen minutes, I would give up

3495
03:20:08,040 --> 03:20:11,440
Speaker 5: all my shit and start all over again.

3496
03:20:12,680 --> 03:20:18,000
Speaker 2: I know it. You gotta know your limitations. See your grandfather.

3497
03:20:18,080 --> 03:20:20,640
Speaker 5: To see my grandfather one more time and touch him

3498
03:20:20,680 --> 03:20:24,040
Speaker 5: for fifteen minutes, I give up everything and talk to

3499
03:20:24,280 --> 03:20:27,440
Speaker 5: money don't mean nothing, and I'd spend ten minutes crying,

3500
03:20:28,040 --> 03:20:30,680
Speaker 5: but five minutes talking that.

3501
03:20:30,800 --> 03:20:37,520
Speaker 6: Shit baby fire, talking that shit baby like, Hey, did

3502
03:20:37,560 --> 03:20:39,000
Speaker 6: they think we was going to do that?

3503
03:20:39,840 --> 03:20:42,520
Speaker 5: Did they think we was going do what we did

3504
03:20:42,640 --> 03:20:46,640
Speaker 5: or whatever? How they think we live in Pop when

3505
03:20:46,640 --> 03:20:52,240
Speaker 5: we live with nothing? How they think we living? Oh baby,

3506
03:20:53,040 --> 03:20:54,760
Speaker 5: what you ain't telling them?

3507
03:20:55,000 --> 03:20:55,200
Speaker 2: Nah?

3508
03:20:55,200 --> 03:21:00,119
Speaker 5: I kept in this secret? Yeah shit, because I love you.

3509
03:21:00,720 --> 03:21:03,840
Speaker 5: I love you, and you said come around there with

3510
03:21:03,879 --> 03:21:07,720
Speaker 5: that bullshit car, but leave with that new ship. Don't

3511
03:21:07,760 --> 03:21:09,959
Speaker 5: tell them what. Don't let them know what your left

3512
03:21:09,959 --> 03:21:11,920
Speaker 5: hand and your right hand is doing. I'm saying, Pop,

3513
03:21:11,959 --> 03:21:15,400
Speaker 5: it don't work like that pop. It don't work like that,

3514
03:21:15,480 --> 03:21:19,480
Speaker 5: and he's saying, Nigga, you see what I told you, right?

3515
03:21:19,640 --> 03:21:22,040
Speaker 5: You see what I told you right, And you would

3516
03:21:22,080 --> 03:21:26,120
Speaker 5: have picked better friends. Five you to pick better friends, Champ,

3517
03:21:27,840 --> 03:21:33,680
Speaker 5: But I love y'all, and it's a session. It's a session. Yeah,

3518
03:21:33,760 --> 03:21:38,960
Speaker 5: it's a session because that sweet You're gonna make it

3519
03:21:38,959 --> 03:21:42,920
Speaker 5: what it is. You know you're gonna make it what

3520
03:21:43,000 --> 03:21:43,320
Speaker 5: it is.

3521
03:21:44,600 --> 03:21:52,080
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