Speaker 1: Number one on the damn number two, all four corners
Speaker 1: of the damn upright. I'm seeing a damn theme here,
Speaker 1: Christ Bob the garbage Man, Brakana Nana Nowski And one
Speaker 1: time I dressed up as an Atlantic City police officer.
Speaker 1: He goes, hey, do you want your fish clean? And me,
Speaker 1: being four, I'm like, yeah, I would like a shiny
Speaker 1: clean fish. Oh sweetheart, the Great Pumpkin has spens good
Speaker 1: Morning to generate anglers, and welcome to Bent, the fishing
Speaker 1: podcast that still dresses up like Roland Martin every Halloween,
Speaker 1: even though it just spends its entire night explaining that
Speaker 1: it isn't supposed to be Rick Flair during a golf outing.
Speaker 1: I'm Joe Surmeli, and guess who's riding shotgun for this
Speaker 1: entire cut rate haunted hay Ride Hayden Samic, that's who.
Speaker 1: How are you? Joe? I am great many Buddy Hayden
Speaker 1: is rolling along for this whole U loosely Halloween theme
Speaker 1: show we're doing since Halloween is this Sunday, which begs
Speaker 1: the question, because I've we've done Halloween. She we did
Speaker 1: a Halloween show last year, so everybody knows. I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of Halloween. But I don't know, are you a
Speaker 1: fan of Halloween? Does this? Does this holiday excites you?
Speaker 1: You know, I get a little excited, But it gets
Speaker 1: different as you get older, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like at for instance, it's a real like wholesome excitement
Speaker 1: because you're a kid excited about running around with your
Speaker 1: friends and getting free candy. Then the benjulum swings to
Speaker 1: the other side around college, when you get excited about
Speaker 1: like completely unwholesome things and Halloween and uh but the
Speaker 1: benjaum swinging back and I'm kind of just excited to like,
Speaker 1: you know, hang out and hand out some candy and
Speaker 1: dress my dog up stupid and oh you're in the
Speaker 1: dress up the dog phase the next phase, and then
Speaker 1: it's like it rekindles is someday you'll have kids, and
Speaker 1: then Halloween gets super fun again because you see it,
Speaker 1: I'm just running around and like fall over and crying stuff.
Speaker 1: Um but yeah, yeah, just stick with the dog for now.
Speaker 1: Don't rush that other part I just said. Um, So, then,
Speaker 1: what is what is the most ridiculous thing you've ever
Speaker 1: dressed up as? Whether that's child phase or or college phase.
Speaker 1: What is it when I was a kid. I dressed
Speaker 1: up as a hockey goalie, like completely like rollerblades and everything,
Speaker 1: and eventually it got too hot. I realized it was
Speaker 1: super inefficient because while all my friends were just running
Speaker 1: from door, like crossing the side lawn and go into
Speaker 1: the next door, I would have to go all the
Speaker 1: way out whatever, like walk away all the way down
Speaker 1: their driveway to the street, across the street up the
Speaker 1: next It was horror. It was bad. So I decided
Speaker 1: I was going to be an ex Games rollerbladeer instead.
Speaker 1: So the only part of the costume I kept on
Speaker 1: was like the rollerblades. And I remember crossing a sideline
Speaker 1: to catch up with my buddies and yelling X Games rules,
Speaker 1: and as I did that, I slipped out and broke
Speaker 1: my arm. So basically you were just kid in roller
Speaker 1: blades was the costume by the end. You know It's
Speaker 1: It's funny though, man, because I used to play a
Speaker 1: lot of roller hockey, and that was always the deal.
Speaker 1: Like I played goal. I loved goal, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do goal on skates, and then like one
Speaker 1: fake period on the street and I'm like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take off the skates. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know all the all the neighborhood kids got together
Speaker 1: and donated candy because I had to go to the hospital.
Speaker 1: Sounds nice, but actually the little ship heads they when
Speaker 1: their mom asked him to donate the candy, they gave
Speaker 1: me like all like the tutsie rolls and the raisin
Speaker 1: boxes and just ship they didn't want. You got the
Speaker 1: raisin nets and the necko way for his man. That's
Speaker 1: how you do when you're a kid. I dude, I
Speaker 1: wish I had. I wish I had a story that good.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm actually pretty lame, would you believe? Um?
Speaker 1: I have not put on a Halloween costume since high school,
Speaker 1: and it's mostly because I have no friends, and a
Speaker 1: few I do have don't have Halloween parties. If they do,
Speaker 1: they don't invite me. But the last time I got
Speaker 1: dressed up was my senior year of high school. I know, man,
Speaker 1: it's brutal. It's brutal. Enjoy your youth. Um. This was
Speaker 1: This was at a Catholic high school, mind you, and
Speaker 1: only the seniors were allowed to come in costume, so
Speaker 1: I just basically wore jeans and a T shirt. Similar
Speaker 1: to your ex Games outfit. Um, but I did my
Speaker 1: face up with one of those zombie kits, and I
Speaker 1: gotta say I was pretty good at those, you know,
Speaker 1: the ones with the blood and the scar putty and
Speaker 1: all that ship. They're like, you know, fifty dollars at
Speaker 1: the at the Halloween store. Um, I could do them really,
Speaker 1: really realistically, right. I was really good at them, and
Speaker 1: the people in school were freaked out. But then what
Speaker 1: happened is I fell asleep with my head down on
Speaker 1: a desk during class, which was common for me. I just, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, just you know, as I this is an elective,
Speaker 1: I will sleep through it. But when I when I
Speaker 1: got up, my face was plastered to the desk and
Speaker 1: all that ship just like peeled off my face and
Speaker 1: was stuck all over my open textbooks and completely ruined them.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the last time I did Halloween. Textbook
Speaker 1: covers can't protect you from everything, man, Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, brown paper Bag. You know, it's like kind
Speaker 1: of unsurprising to me that you're good with like zombie makeup.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're kind of a creative dude, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of crafty and ship you know a
Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit. My my wife is more
Speaker 1: artistic than I am, but I always love that stuff. Um.
Speaker 1: And that was the last time in high school when
Speaker 1: I when I did the zombie makeup deal. But every
Speaker 1: Halloween I'm like dying to to put it on my
Speaker 1: kids and they won't let me. Like my daughter will
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I want to be a cheerleader, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, perfect, can you be a zombie? She's She's
Speaker 1: like no, no, Daddy, no, she refuses. Um anyway to
Speaker 1: to get us in the Halloween spirit, here's what I did, right.
Speaker 1: Since we're talking costumes, I did a thing. I called
Speaker 1: up a bunch of past guests to find out the
Speaker 1: most embarrassing or crazy or ridiculous costume they ever wore.
Speaker 1: And we'll be peppering them throughout the show. And we'll
Speaker 1: start with my bud, Brian Wise stream Retire Extraordinary of
Speaker 1: fly Fishing the Ozarks fame. Hey, this is Brian Wise
Speaker 1: with fly Fish in the Ozarks. And the weirdest thing
Speaker 1: I dressed up for Halloween was a girl when I
Speaker 1: was like twelve, went to an old folks home and
Speaker 1: all the people there thought I was the mom. This
Speaker 1: is gonna sound weird, right, But I can picture I
Speaker 1: can picture Brian and drag like. I actually kind of
Speaker 1: kind of think it works. Like he's got like nice
Speaker 1: high cheekbones. You know what I'm saying, that he could
Speaker 1: really pull it off. That does sound weird. I have
Speaker 1: no idea what Brian looks like other than come on,
Speaker 1: other than nice cheekbones, I guess, but I will take
Speaker 1: your word for it. You don't watch Brian wise is
Speaker 1: streamer videos, dude, They're like world famous set to dub
Speaker 1: step where you've been man, Sorry, Brian, all right, We're
Speaker 1: gonna get you up to speed on that, all right.
Speaker 1: So what else are we diving into today? The land
Speaker 1: of Zombie Salmon. That's fitting for Halloween. That plays well,
Speaker 1: although I think the land of Zombie Great Lake Salmon
Speaker 1: will soon be turning into the land of Great Lake Steelhead.
Speaker 1: And if you play that game, I highly recommend the
Speaker 1: Fate Steel line of rods from our sponsors thirteen Fishing.
Speaker 1: I've used mine for shad because a long light rod
Speaker 1: comes in handy there, but I'm really hoping to get
Speaker 1: them on some steel this winner. And by the way,
Speaker 1: now that you're in the bent fold here, Hayden, I
Speaker 1: think you're entitled to some thirteen wears what takes your fancy,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure I can make it happen. That that's exciting. Um,
Speaker 1: I have a confession to make. Uh, this is this
Speaker 1: is gonna be truly jarring to more than a couple
Speaker 1: of our listeners, I guess. But would you believe that
Speaker 1: I do not currently own a single piece of conventional gear. Ah,
Speaker 1: that's a big strike against you. That's a big but
Speaker 1: I know you conventionally fished. So are you just saying
Speaker 1: you didn't bother to bring any of the zeb coos
Speaker 1: out to Montana like you just had on hand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty much what happened. Basically. I came out here
Speaker 1: last year after like you know, in like November. I
Speaker 1: came out here in a super in present, so I
Speaker 1: had just everything I owned in this little like hatchback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there isn't like a ton of bass fishing out here,
Speaker 1: and while I are like kind of beyond me although
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. Yeah, I just haven't
Speaker 1: had a chance to I have had any money to
Speaker 1: get to get a bunch of fishing gear, Yet I
Speaker 1: had to buy like lame things like pots and pans
Speaker 1: and a bed frame. You don't have an Ikea out
Speaker 1: there either, do you? No? No? In fact, I tried
Speaker 1: to order try to order and stuff for my kea.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, we got it to in four months.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, that's not super helpful, but uh,
Speaker 1: you know what I really could use though, what's that?
Speaker 1: I would love some hard water gear. I'm planning to
Speaker 1: hit the ice super hard this winter because yep, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, everything tastes better when you pull it through
Speaker 1: the ice, man, Everything of cold water always tastes better,
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Yeah, So if I were to get
Speaker 1: something from thirteen fishing Man, I would love some hard
Speaker 1: water gear. Sounds good, sounds good ice fishing gear will
Speaker 1: get you some black betties. Um, excellent choice there. I
Speaker 1: will work on that, but until then, let's go shopping elsewhere. Okay,
Speaker 1: because we've got a sail been today that you listeners
Speaker 1: have been begging for. And it's a little mysterious. It's
Speaker 1: a little spooky, and you just don't know if it's
Speaker 1: safe to consume or if it's riddled with pushpins and
Speaker 1: razor blades. Why did you put the hand to pay
Speaker 1: you don't know what I'm getting. Man, What you didn't
Speaker 1: have to be so hurtful with me so angry? Today
Speaker 1: We've got what I've at least decided is the perfect
Speaker 1: Halloween sailban item because it's very trigger treat right, could
Speaker 1: be good, could be ship, don't know. But thanks to
Speaker 1: several listeners that sent this one along. Um, there are
Speaker 1: too many of you to name, but at least ten
Speaker 1: of you fired this one off, and I thank you
Speaker 1: for it, but very quickly before I dive into this
Speaker 1: particular item. Um, since this is Hayden's first sale, bin,
Speaker 1: I always like to know, like where where everyone stands
Speaker 1: on the online buying of other people's wears? Are you
Speaker 1: an online classified shopper? Do you look for things on
Speaker 1: Facebook and Craig's List and such? Shoot? Yeah, You're boy's
Speaker 1: been known to be a little bit thrifty like that.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, what do you buy? What do you like?
Speaker 1: What are you using for dude? All sorts of gear? Man? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've bought a bunch of guitarist from a website called Reverb,
Speaker 1: but like I also buy a lot of my waterfowl
Speaker 1: decoys from like Piste off x Wives and girlfriends. You know,
Speaker 1: full body decoys are expensive. Man, in the best sale
Speaker 1: I've ever found is when you know you've got like
Speaker 1: a a Spern lover swinging the auction gavel. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I do know, dude, I do know.
Speaker 1: And like those posts are so rare and you've got
Speaker 1: to be quick on it. But you see every once
Speaker 1: in a while on Craig's List, it's like every piece
Speaker 1: of fish tackle and fish poles in my condo needs
Speaker 1: to be gone tomorrow. Call Holly, and you know it's like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I need to get there tomorrow before he
Speaker 1: gets back from work. You know, I'm about that way
Speaker 1: better than this guy's about that exactly, exactly, oh man.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so here's what we have. I'm glad, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you're an online classified person that makes this more fun.
Speaker 1: So so here's what we have. Okay, the title of
Speaker 1: this post, and now, mind you, I'm betting that even
Speaker 1: more people have seen this post than Senate. It's it's
Speaker 1: out there in all kinds of different Facebook forums. The
Speaker 1: title is secret jigs I use at Missouri Trout Parks
Speaker 1: and the photo is just a shot of a railing
Speaker 1: surrounding a low head dam and you see a lone
Speaker 1: angler waiting just above the damn. And I'm just surmising here, really,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna say it was probably taking
Speaker 1: at a Missouri trout park, would be my guess. I
Speaker 1: would say that's probably a fair assumption. Trout parks, I feel,
Speaker 1: are a very interesting cultural phenomenon and totally and I
Speaker 1: think that what's interesting about him is there are some
Speaker 1: folks that are like very dedicated to visiting. That's just
Speaker 1: what they do. And and honestly, like you know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure it breeds a certain level of skill just because
Speaker 1: like the ability to rapidly a b test a bunch
Speaker 1: of different stuff over fish that you know, you know
Speaker 1: are seeing it well, dude, And there's there's some truth
Speaker 1: to that. It's like, on one hand, you step back
Speaker 1: and you're like, trout park, that's lame. I would never
Speaker 1: do that. But if you're into that, these places tend
Speaker 1: to have their ringers, like, ah, that's old Bill over there.
Speaker 1: He gets him every time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's like a jockeying for position at
Speaker 1: some of these trout parks. I would I would bet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My my experience of trout parks overall is very limited,
Speaker 1: but I will tell you a quick story about one.
Speaker 1: And it's actually this is a story I told him
Speaker 1: my grandfather's funeral. The I'm coming in with him today, man,
Speaker 1: I'm ready. Uh. So, when I was a kid, uh,
Speaker 1: one of my first trout fishing excursions was at one
Speaker 1: of these trout parks, and this one in particular was
Speaker 1: like a kind of catch and keep pay to play,
Speaker 1: right right, Um, I'm about four years old or something,
Speaker 1: and I managed to catch a fish, and you know,
Speaker 1: my dad puts him in the ten gallon bucket and
Speaker 1: kind of I am now no longer interested in fishing.
Speaker 1: I'm interested in watching this one particular fish kind of
Speaker 1: swim around. So a couple of hours go by and
Speaker 1: we're leaving the trout park and we passed the you know,
Speaker 1: the the shed with a teenager and the filat knife,
Speaker 1: and uh, the guy kind of looks at me as
Speaker 1: I'm leaving, me goes, hey, uh, do you want your
Speaker 1: fish cleaned? And me, being four, I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: I would like a shiny clean fish. Oh no, I'll
Speaker 1: poor little you into the bucket. Slaps on the cutting board,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking that's a weird way to clean a fish.
Speaker 1: I feel like, I feel like it's probably not sleuper
Speaker 1: good for it. And he just eviscerates this fish in
Speaker 1: front of me, and I cried all the way home.
Speaker 1: And you've never been back to a trout park since.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's sad. That's so funny. Uh. Anyway, anyway,
Speaker 1: story time over. So these secret jigs, right, these these
Speaker 1: secret jigs, they'll cost you ten dollars, and four ten
Speaker 1: dollars you get ten, so a bucket jig, which isn't terrible, right,
Speaker 1: that's a lot cheaper than dry flies, a lot cheaper
Speaker 1: than dry flies. Three fifty most places for one blue
Speaker 1: wing olive cause three fifty right, not even tied good? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: But anyhow, man, uh, I would say that these one
Speaker 1: dollar jigs are not only a good price, but a
Speaker 1: steal for what they are and what they are. Lightning
Speaker 1: in a bottle. Man, I'm going to read the listeners
Speaker 1: the description of the jigs in question. So ten for ten,
Speaker 1: my secret jig that I catch thirty to fifty trout
Speaker 1: a day, no picture to keep it secret. I guarantee
Speaker 1: you will catch your limit daily. I have used this
Speaker 1: jig for forty eight years. Will also throw in a
Speaker 1: detailed diagram of how to use it. Phone number hidden
Speaker 1: four forty eight years. It's kind of odd. Why not
Speaker 1: just say fifty or forty five? Like that's very specific? Hey,
Speaker 1: you want to know that he's honest, dude, these so
Speaker 1: it can't be exaggerating, right, But so I got to
Speaker 1: say right. In a way, it's kind of genius marketing.
Speaker 1: It's like the grown up version of the surprise eggs.
Speaker 1: All the little kids are are are into right, and
Speaker 1: much cheaper. I might add, cause I know from experience.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you give me ten bucks and
Speaker 1: trust me, this is gonna be good. Like you're gonna
Speaker 1: like you like this. There are a lot of secret
Speaker 1: recipes that people go to great lengths to keep that way, dude,
Speaker 1: a hundred percent. But this is like a wink and
Speaker 1: a nod you've put out on the entire internet. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised it didn't put it on the dark Web. So
Speaker 1: he's trying to keep it secret, and then he assumes
Speaker 1: the buyer will keep it secret. But you know, at
Speaker 1: some point some asshole is going to spill the beans,
Speaker 1: and that asshole is me because I have purchased these
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't. I did. I'm holding the package here
Speaker 1: and I have not opened it, and it's been killing
Speaker 1: me for over a week. I have been saving this
Speaker 1: for this moment. On this sale beIN right here. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be the first ever unboxing on this podcast. I
Speaker 1: gotta say, like, I just did this through Facebook, and
Speaker 1: not to be rude, but like, you're not giving your
Speaker 1: credit card to like a business. You're dealing with some
Speaker 1: rando dude. That fish is Missouri trout Parks. So I'm
Speaker 1: still convinced somehow this will result in like my bank
Speaker 1: account being drained or my interview man, well, yeah I
Speaker 1: use PayPal, Okay, smart guy. But still I'm like from
Speaker 1: Jersey and trust nobody. You know what I mean? You do? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but it's it's all worth it to amuse the
Speaker 1: ben audience. I'm doing this because I want you all
Speaker 1: to catch more fish, god damn it, Like I want
Speaker 1: you to have all the manages. On the other hand,
Speaker 1: I want you to know if you're getting scammed. I
Speaker 1: believe it's worth ten bucks of my heart earned money
Speaker 1: to let you know this I'm not even gonna expense this, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna make meat eat or pay or
Speaker 1: what very well could be a mistake. This is This
Speaker 1: is a lot of pressure on you too, because this
Speaker 1: could be a cloud of anthrax. Like you're watching me
Speaker 1: on the computer right now that I'm very happy I'm
Speaker 1: watching you. You're safe out there in Montana. It could
Speaker 1: be a mail bomb, although it's very light. It would
Speaker 1: be the most sophisticated mail bomb ever. But I'm actually listening.
Speaker 1: It's by scissors. I have sat on this for a week,
Speaker 1: and this is it. Phil. You need to put a
Speaker 1: drum roll over this. I am cutting the envelope right now,
Speaker 1: and together we're gonna see about these secret jigs. Look
Speaker 1: that they're all wrapped up in weird paper. These are
Speaker 1: gonna be good. Uh, oh my god, it's just a scam.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's the diagram. Oh my god, dude, you've
Speaker 1: got to be kidding me. I hope you've got to
Speaker 1: be kidding me. I'm gonna see I'm hold this so
Speaker 1: you could see it. It's literally a tiny bag. Can
Speaker 1: you even see that? Of Like it's it's protagons in
Speaker 1: all white. It is literally just a jig style hook
Speaker 1: gold with an itty bitty head that looks like a
Speaker 1: nymph head painted white. And then he has just wrapped
Speaker 1: white thread behind it and tapered it. That is it.
Speaker 1: That is all that it is. I was expecting like
Speaker 1: bucktail or just I was expecting it to be like
Speaker 1: some forty eight years dude, this should have been some
Speaker 1: precursor to the trout magnet or something these All it
Speaker 1: looks like is a euronymph with an upturned eye. It's
Speaker 1: just a white thread. What is what is? Let's let's
Speaker 1: look at the details. Let's look at the worm on
Speaker 1: the detailed diagram. It's going to tell you to tip
Speaker 1: it with something. And I read the damn guy's advice
Speaker 1: for catching trout at Bennett Springs State Park. If you
Speaker 1: fish Bennett Spring State Park, this is your lucky day.
Speaker 1: Um Man. How to set up fly rod or spinning
Speaker 1: rod for this jig? Number one, Always use two pound
Speaker 1: test line or less. What's less than two pound test line?
Speaker 1: UM eight x tippet. I don't even know. I don't
Speaker 1: know does he have does he have some secret line
Speaker 1: that he also sells with these secret jigs? No? Man,
Speaker 1: Always try and fish about six inches from bottom. Always
Speaker 1: make sure there isn't any moss on the jig parentheses.
Speaker 1: Very important. Use an adjustable cork when using a spinning rod.
Speaker 1: Make sure you keep the line tight. Tie jig on
Speaker 1: leader between six and eight inches above that and put
Speaker 1: number six split shot adjust cork accordingly. Best place to fish, dude,
Speaker 1: Best place to fish this jig at Bennett Spring, number
Speaker 1: one on the damn number two. All four corners of
Speaker 1: the damn up lower. I'm seeing a day Am theme here.
Speaker 1: Not many people think to fish the damn. Oh my god, dude.
Speaker 1: This is number three, all the handicapped spots. Number like
Speaker 1: jigsie selling way points, number four, feeder stream outlet, number
Speaker 1: five feeder stream from hatchery outlet to stream. This is
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna look. I
Speaker 1: just gonna say, I have no doubt these will catch
Speaker 1: fish like these are like stock trout at a trout park.
Speaker 1: Why not. It just looks like a little white maggot
Speaker 1: or something. This is well, I mean yeah, sure, sure,
Speaker 1: I mean, like you know, like it's like what you know,
Speaker 1: waltz worm looks like nothing too. I think it's funny
Speaker 1: that like it's so fish Park, not fish Park in general,
Speaker 1: but fish Park singular specific. And I do like that
Speaker 1: if you took anybody to survey this body of water
Speaker 1: and you were like, where do you think you'd catch
Speaker 1: some fish? They would point to all this new secret
Speaker 1: spots immediately. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: mad at dude. They're definitely heavier. I think these are lead,
Speaker 1: Like these aren't like a tungsten head or traditional nimp head.
Speaker 1: I actually think these are itty bitty lead jigheads. But
Speaker 1: it's just so funny to me. I mean, there's not
Speaker 1: even a piece of flash in him. Not it is
Speaker 1: literally just white thread. That's always think, what do you
Speaker 1: think the likelihood is that we have a listener that
Speaker 1: is in like reasonable proximity of this fish park. If
Speaker 1: you are hit me up. It also bothers me because
Speaker 1: now that I think about it, this man has my address,
Speaker 1: so he could now send me anthrax or a letter
Speaker 1: bomb for divulging the greatest secret in all of fishing
Speaker 1: on this podcast. I'd good to feeling good. This dude
Speaker 1: is super tech s happy man. I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: be all right anyway. There you go. You know some
Speaker 1: of you who who sent that I hinted. I was like, look,
Speaker 1: I can't do this without knowing. You can't lay this
Speaker 1: on people without being able to say, this is what
Speaker 1: it is. So that is it. That is the secret
Speaker 1: to stock trout everywhere. A tiny lead jighead painted white
Speaker 1: with some white thread rap behind it. That was really fun. Man,
Speaker 1: that was like, that might be my all time favorite
Speaker 1: sale bin right there. Naturally, I'm gonna I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: the pictures of these things on Instagram so you can
Speaker 1: all see it on Instagram, and and and copy and
Speaker 1: tie theees um if if you, if you want any
Speaker 1: more secrets revealed, you find something on your favorite classified
Speaker 1: online forum, do please keep sending those links to me
Speaker 1: at bent at the meat Eator dot com if you would,
Speaker 1: if you would love us to trash the things you
Speaker 1: find here on the sale bin. Okay, that may have
Speaker 1: been favorite thing that's ever happened on Bent and honestly
Speaker 1: is one of mine, says and honestly, I'd feel bad
Speaker 1: that we burned dude spots if they weren't so obvious,
Speaker 1: like fish, the damn fish, the outflow of the creek.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that he wasn't like fishing the big wet
Speaker 1: thing at the end of the dog. You know, I've
Speaker 1: been thinking about it, and you know I have a theory.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you my theory. I don't think that the
Speaker 1: dude fishes at Bennett Springs anymore, because if he did,
Speaker 1: why would you do this? Why would you be so
Speaker 1: willing to give up all the goods on a very
Speaker 1: particular location. If you are then just creating competition for yourself.
Speaker 1: Have you considered maybe that you're the only dude who's
Speaker 1: bought his mystery jigs and I know people are interested.
Speaker 1: I may be the only dummy that actually sent the
Speaker 1: man ten dollars. You're absolutely right. Maybe maybe it's like
Speaker 1: a one off, and maybe he's like, if I can
Speaker 1: get like one dude on some fish and he really
Speaker 1: starts talking about how good these jigs are, I'll sell
Speaker 1: a bunch. Maybe he's looking like whoever, but he's looking
Speaker 1: for someone to mentor someone to bring up to his status.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Maybe we'll hear from me.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised, Yeah, exactly. Anyway, what matters in
Speaker 1: the end is um you know that that worked out great.
Speaker 1: I did not explode um, and you all learned how
Speaker 1: to crush trout at Missouri Trout Parks Bennett Springs in particular.
Speaker 1: And speaking of things working out great, let's learn about
Speaker 1: a costume that worked out great for my buddy Marty
Speaker 1: Yee of Cross Current Guide Service on the Upper Delaware River. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's Marty from Cross Current Guide Service. Uh. The weirdest
Speaker 1: costume I ever war was probably a full body shark costume.
Speaker 1: But that's not the funny part. The funny part is
Speaker 1: is it was actually the cleanest article of clothing I had,
Speaker 1: So I actually ended up warning the shark costume for
Speaker 1: about four or five days after Halloween. Worked out great. Uh,
Speaker 1: party Marty. If if this is the same Marty I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of, he was good friends with a late friend
Speaker 1: of mine, Jackie, that I knew from Salmon River Outfitters,
Speaker 1: and then also her ex boyfriend. I guess guides on
Speaker 1: the U D a little bit. I'm certainly it's the
Speaker 1: same same Marty. I mean, Marty, Marty is Asian. He's
Speaker 1: the only Asian fishing guide I know on the Upper
Speaker 1: Delaware River. Is that ring a bell? That rings a bell? There?
Speaker 1: It is that's our Marty. Yeah, it gets a mean croctan.
Speaker 1: I follow him on Instagram. He does I just saw
Speaker 1: a few months ago. I was like, yeah, you're burned
Speaker 1: anyway from Marty, Shark is a great choice. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw a shot of Party Marty in that shark
Speaker 1: costume passed out in front of a golf cart in
Speaker 1: my Instagram story today because he made the mistake of
Speaker 1: sending that to me. Costume choice that is probably Party Marty.
Speaker 1: That's that's Party Marty. So I mean that that costume
Speaker 1: choice may have led to a lack of confidence once
Speaker 1: I post that, But I know someone who exudes confidence
Speaker 1: and everything he does, including choosing a costume. So let's
Speaker 1: hit another one. Let's find out how our friend Oliver
Speaker 1: and I gets down on all hallows. Hey, this is
Speaker 1: all over and I from Big Bass Streams to my
Speaker 1: go to Halloween costume is Tiger Woods year in and
Speaker 1: year out, because it works better than a defiant to
Speaker 1: ten swim bait. Now that to me, if you know
Speaker 1: what Oliver looks like, that is so perfect. Oliver is
Speaker 1: the perfect Tiger Woods and he I seem to get
Speaker 1: the impression anytime he has to dress up. That's just
Speaker 1: the go to, and I say, hell did If it
Speaker 1: ain't broke, don't fix it. I love it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't know too much about golf. I shot
Speaker 1: some geese on a golf course one time when I
Speaker 1: was a kid and got the cops called. But that's
Speaker 1: about like the limit of my golf course experience, you know.
Speaker 1: I do know about Tiger Woods though, and him, I
Speaker 1: hope so and him and I have something in common
Speaker 1: a champions minds, and Joe you better watch out because
Speaker 1: I'm bringing that champion mindset into this week's installment of
Speaker 1: fish News. Fish news that escalated quickly, big news right
Speaker 1: out of the gate here that I'm very excited to share,
Speaker 1: mostly so people stop asking me. That's just that's just
Speaker 1: real talk right there. Uh, mark your calendars because episode
Speaker 1: one of B Side Fishing Season two drops next Friday,
Speaker 1: That's November five, on the meat Eator YouTube channel, which
Speaker 1: means for a month straight starting next Friday, you'll get
Speaker 1: a fresh Bent and a fresh B side on the
Speaker 1: same day. And so, how on earth will you get
Speaker 1: any work done on Friday's Is what I want to know.
Speaker 1: It says here, I'm supposed to t you up to
Speaker 1: talk about some details. A nice wait. Yeah, way to
Speaker 1: put the effort in on that one, Hayden. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I want as you to do. But I'll
Speaker 1: just go ahead and say I don't want to give
Speaker 1: away all the Jews before the show starts rolling out,
Speaker 1: but a couple of points of interest you guys may recall.
Speaker 1: Season one was filmed entirely in my home state of
Speaker 1: New Jersey, which was just as much because of COVID
Speaker 1: as Jersey being a haven for unexpected fisheries. It kind
Speaker 1: of worked out, but when we were shooting that we
Speaker 1: weren't getting on planes and stuff because of the covids.
Speaker 1: But luckily we're we're back to traveling. So this season
Speaker 1: we only got one local n J show. Um, and
Speaker 1: I have to add co starring Miles multi sad face
Speaker 1: emoji the Legend lives on. Yeah, I love you Miles exactly.
Speaker 1: And then and then we're hitting up Virginia a couple
Speaker 1: of times in Minnesota, and I gotta say, if you
Speaker 1: appreciated the exploration of some of the lesser known fish
Speaker 1: like the dog and the picke roll from the first season,
Speaker 1: You're gonna dig Round two we we chase some unexpected species,
Speaker 1: and uh, I really kind of challenged my my own
Speaker 1: culinary metal. And while this season, I gotta say it
Speaker 1: was it was a lot more work than the last one,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun and uh I got
Speaker 1: to hang out and fish with some really cool people.
Speaker 1: So I'm pumped on it. Yeah, man, I really like
Speaker 1: this series. It reminds me a lot of your hook
Speaker 1: Shot series, but yeah, but like more polished, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's people are always like, how would you describe
Speaker 1: B Side? I'm like, it's hook Shots, man, only it
Speaker 1: looks better and it's slightly more grown up. Otherwise it's
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing shows more grown up. Maybe
Speaker 1: not the host, but no, no, no, I actually just
Speaker 1: binged the first season of B Side about a month ago, um,
Speaker 1: and I was horrified to find out that I had
Speaker 1: been missing out on some quality Joe Surmelie content for
Speaker 1: for so long. Um. But yeah, I mean my buddy
Speaker 1: Maggie pretty much did Did she do all the post
Speaker 1: on this? Yes, Maggie is awesome. Okay, yes she did
Speaker 1: all the posts, all the graphics, and that that's one
Speaker 1: of those things you talk about the difference between the
Speaker 1: old show and the news show. It's like, Wow, I
Speaker 1: have people to make me cool graphics. I never thought
Speaker 1: that would happen. I love it. I love everything that
Speaker 1: Maggie Smith does. It's killer. And it dawns on me
Speaker 1: that when the first season of B Side launched, you
Speaker 1: didn't even work here yet, did you. You weren't even
Speaker 1: part of the meat Eater crew. No, that's how That's
Speaker 1: how I missed it. Right, Maybe down the road hidden
Speaker 1: you'll be You'll be in one anyway. Well, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll move on the news here. As reminded, this is
Speaker 1: a competition, Hayden and I do not know which news
Speaker 1: story the other guy grabbed, creating an element of mystery
Speaker 1: and the unexpected. We also enjoy a good plot twist
Speaker 1: which which reminds me of our dear friend river Horse
Speaker 1: and his most zany Halloween costume that goes a little
Speaker 1: something like this. Hey, now, this is river Horse from
Speaker 1: the Deep South in Texas. My favorite Halloween costume I
Speaker 1: ever dressed up as was wait a minute, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Nice try. You all feel free to run around and
Speaker 1: sparkle glows star, whereas Jedi outfits and chase each other
Speaker 1: with fluorescent lightsabers. My saber is a Sage eight waite
Speaker 1: fly rod because I'll be out in the canoe all night,
Speaker 1: stick and red fish into the full moon. Baby, Oh sweetheart,
Speaker 1: the Great Pumpkin has spins. Yeah, that dude is that
Speaker 1: one's very comforting and sort of unsettling, a little bit
Speaker 1: unset unsettling. Why what's unsettling? Part of it is like
Speaker 1: the creepy music that Phil kind of puts in there.
Speaker 1: That's Phil, though that's not River horse Man. He'd have
Speaker 1: like this kind of creepy some some skinners or some
Speaker 1: some Joe Walsh jams in there if it were up
Speaker 1: to him. That dude sounds like like like codeine or something,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I love I love River
Speaker 1: horse I think he should be part of that calm
Speaker 1: app make a lot of money. I'd rather listen to
Speaker 1: him at night than like Morgan Freeman or whoever is
Speaker 1: on there. Uh. He does raise a good point, though
Speaker 1: he threw us a little curveball there. But we already
Speaker 1: said that Halloween gets a lot more fun again when
Speaker 1: you have little kids. At the same time, if you
Speaker 1: don't and don't care about giving out candy man Halloween
Speaker 1: night is a great night to like go surf fishing
Speaker 1: because the beach is practically empty because everybody's involved. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know, whitetail hunting is also a little bit like that,
Speaker 1: Like there's like kind of like that that magic that
Speaker 1: happens right around Halloween. Still adding fishing too, you know,
Speaker 1: as long as we're on sort of legendary alternate Halloween activities,
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, Halloween Thanksgiving are both great outdoors days,
Speaker 1: and I hardly get to do anything outdoorsy on either
Speaker 1: of them anymore. But anyway, anyhow, fish News this is,
Speaker 1: as Joe said, a competition, and this week we're offering
Speaker 1: up phil our very best as normal or Joe's very
Speaker 1: best best somewhat best. Let's we're gonna see if I
Speaker 1: can break the slide this week, and Joe, I believe
Speaker 1: you're up first. Man, Yes, I am up first this week.
Speaker 1: And yeah, let's see if you break the slide. Is right? Uh,
Speaker 1: here's a fun one from where that night a big bread.
Speaker 1: This comes from k s at news dot com, and
Speaker 1: it's the story of a potential record that's very unexpected,
Speaker 1: though satisfying to me because there's not an ounce of
Speaker 1: pretentiousness in it. A matter of fact, it was kind
Speaker 1: of like a goofy jokey thing that happened, but I
Speaker 1: love the outcome. So here's what went down. On October eleven,
Speaker 1: Ben Christiansen was floating down the Pedernales River in his
Speaker 1: little inflatable flycraft. Now when I say this river is
Speaker 1: deep in the heart of Texas, I mean it is
Speaker 1: deep in the heart of Texas. It's pretty much smack
Speaker 1: dab in the center um. And it's one of the
Speaker 1: many rivers that flows through Texas hill Country, which I've
Speaker 1: always wanted to fish. I don't know if you're if
Speaker 1: you're hip to the Texas hill country scene, but it's
Speaker 1: very cool. It seems super cool. Maybe let's go check
Speaker 1: it out sometime. Yeah, maybe that'll be our B side
Speaker 1: you would meet Texas hill Country. It seems kind of
Speaker 1: like an A side. Well, I don't know, we'll find
Speaker 1: we'll find some dumb ship to do and turn it
Speaker 1: right around. We'll go there to chase whatever is not
Speaker 1: the thing you chase there. That's kind of what I'm
Speaker 1: about sometimes anyway. Yeah, So so that the Pedernalies is
Speaker 1: one of those it's like Aqua Blue the water is
Speaker 1: just aqua. Um it's like filled with limestone ledges. It's
Speaker 1: it's just pretty and and super juicy. Um and and
Speaker 1: Texas Hill Country has quite the fly fishing culture there, right,
Speaker 1: and and Ben is a big time fly guy. In fact,
Speaker 1: the article says he's currently working on a book titled
Speaker 1: fly Fishing San Antonio and the Texas Hill Country, which
Speaker 1: I would like to check out at some point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. But before we even get into this story more,
Speaker 1: because I know what this story is now that you've
Speaker 1: said the name and provided the context, Okay, I just
Speaker 1: want to point out another ben our listener, Ben roussel
Speaker 1: I g hand Mountains to Marsh sent this story to
Speaker 1: me because you apparently never read the news that he
Speaker 1: sends you. I'm gonna dispute that, because Ben very well
Speaker 1: may have sent this, but like, I don't get all
Speaker 1: my news stories from listeners. Like sometimes if if one
Speaker 1: of you guys hits hits something that I haven't seen yet,
Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh, and I credit you for that.
Speaker 1: But strong chance already knew about this and Ben sent it,
Speaker 1: and then like if you just send me a news
Speaker 1: story with nothing else, yes, Okay, I don't always respond
Speaker 1: to them. But I respond to nine of my d
Speaker 1: m s. People will back me up. And that is
Speaker 1: very true. And I think in order to foster that
Speaker 1: listener connection, I think everybody listening to the Bent podcast
Speaker 1: should direct message Joe and he will get back to
Speaker 1: each and every one of you with a very long
Speaker 1: and thoughtful response. I ask him anything, I ask him anything,
Speaker 1: doesn't I welcome that. But if you're gonna d M me, like,
Speaker 1: why don't you send me an awkward photo or a
Speaker 1: bar nomination or a voice memo. If all those people
Speaker 1: that just listen to hate and say that responded with
Speaker 1: a voice memo, a lot more you'd get on. You'd
Speaker 1: get on this show more for nibbles and seas. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying anyway, So, speaking of Instagram, Ben, I looked
Speaker 1: him up on Instagram, and as predicted, right, his feet
Speaker 1: is loaded up with photos um you'd expect from that region,
Speaker 1: smaller bass, some carp a, few exotics that live there,
Speaker 1: and so on. And I think it's it's fair that
Speaker 1: generally speaking, Texas hill Country is sort of synonymous with
Speaker 1: with what i'd call light tackle fly fishing. Right, it's
Speaker 1: very clear water. You have to be stealthy. And I've
Speaker 1: talked to some guys down there who said to me, like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you you can't come here with a seven weight and
Speaker 1: rip a big streamer around and expect catch anything. Like
Speaker 1: you'll usually just scare ship because the water is so clear, right,
Speaker 1: So so that explains why on October eleventh, Ben was
Speaker 1: wielding a four weight fly rod, which, in case you
Speaker 1: don't understand how fly rod waights work, trust me, that's light, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's lighter than your average trout rod. That's small,
Speaker 1: you know, stream trout stuff. That's about what I used
Speaker 1: for small. Yeah, like like you know, not quite stuff
Speaker 1: you can jump over, but you know, not not big rivers,
Speaker 1: small ways anyway, dry fly it's a dry fly rod exactly.
Speaker 1: And you hope that the fish aren't bigger than like
Speaker 1: sixt in um. Yet, when Ben spied a giant ass
Speaker 1: blue cat swimming around in that clear water, did that
Speaker 1: four weight stop him from casting a damsel fly at it?
Speaker 1: Hell no, it didn't. Hell no, did the cat eat
Speaker 1: the damsel? Hell yes, hell yes it did? And off
Speaker 1: to the races Ben went for, according to him, forty
Speaker 1: minutes right now. It's amazing that he landed this fish
Speaker 1: because it weighed thirty one fifty five pounds and if
Speaker 1: you factor in a light four weight rod, right, and
Speaker 1: then he was only using twelve pound tippet, whereas you know,
Speaker 1: like serious blue cat guys chasing these fish elsewhere, especially
Speaker 1: fish of this caliber. I mean, they're using fifty to
Speaker 1: eighty pound leader, right, And then you've got a damsel fly.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't exactly call it like a beefy salt order deceiver.
Speaker 1: It's a fairly dainty trout pattern. It's you know, right exactly,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a small fly. So for that little
Speaker 1: fly to hang on or at least like not bend
Speaker 1: out during a forty minute tussle with a fish that
Speaker 1: has a pretty hard mouth and fights like hell is impressive. Um,
Speaker 1: but it obviously tells me, you know, Ben is pretty
Speaker 1: adeptive fighting fish like dude knows what he's doing, because
Speaker 1: there's no margin of error there, especially when you consider
Speaker 1: in a shallow, rocky river that cat can only go
Speaker 1: out right. It's kind of like how tuna are more
Speaker 1: fun and less than a hundred feet of water because
Speaker 1: they can only sound so far. They have to go out,
Speaker 1: and they go screaming off. Big cats do the same thing.
Speaker 1: If they have depth, they just try and stay deep right,
Speaker 1: so you're you're bringing them up almost vertical and that
Speaker 1: makes pressure super super difficult to apply there. Man, Yes,
Speaker 1: you can't just rip that rod sideways and reeve on them.
Speaker 1: You gotta know no. And I'm sure there were boulders
Speaker 1: and ledges and all kinds of obstacles in Ben's way.
Speaker 1: So I also love this. The fly was tied by
Speaker 1: Ben's son just the night before. It was an olive
Speaker 1: variant damsel. His son named Chips and Salsa because, as
Speaker 1: he puts it, every fish wants to eat it. He's
Speaker 1: got a fly name Chips and Salsa. I love that.
Speaker 1: That is a great name, very catchy, that needs to
Speaker 1: be in in fly binds everywhere. It will still uh So.
Speaker 1: Ben is a strict catching release angler, but he ended
Speaker 1: up keeping this cat because he was worried the long
Speaker 1: fight exhausted it and it would it would die anyway.
Speaker 1: But having that official weight could potentially land him in
Speaker 1: the record books because according to the i g f A,
Speaker 1: the current blue cat record on twelve pound tippet only
Speaker 1: ways twenty six point four pounds, so that's a fairly
Speaker 1: significant difference there. Yeah. And furthermore, Texas Parks and Wildlife
Speaker 1: says the catches also pending the water body record for
Speaker 1: the Pedernales and that and that's gotta be that's gotta
Speaker 1: be all tackle. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's that they if I know what you're saying, I
Speaker 1: don't know that much about how water body records work,
Speaker 1: but I don't believe in most cases, um, that they're
Speaker 1: broken down by you know, tippet class or anything. I
Speaker 1: think that just means he caught the biggest blue cat
Speaker 1: uh known to have ever come out of the Pedernales,
Speaker 1: which is pretty damn cool. Um. And And here's why
Speaker 1: I love this whole thing, right, because many of us
Speaker 1: have been in Ben's position where some big gas fish
Speaker 1: pops up unexpectedly and you're totally not prepared for it,
Speaker 1: and you're like, do I cast at that? Oh? What
Speaker 1: the hell? Yes? I do? And if the fish eats right,
Speaker 1: it either leads to glory or instant failure. But for
Speaker 1: that like split second of decision making, you just don't
Speaker 1: even consider your line strength or your gear ratio and
Speaker 1: and hook size, and you just go for it. Um.
Speaker 1: And the last time this happened to me was a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I was smallmouth fishing on a
Speaker 1: smaller stream around here. I was waiting using pretty light
Speaker 1: outfit in six pound test and I'm flicking this small
Speaker 1: brown tube around. And every time I fished this river,
Speaker 1: I would see carp almost every time, um and and
Speaker 1: just for ships, every time i'd see him, I dropped
Speaker 1: whatever I was throwing a grub or tube or ever
Speaker 1: in front of them, and never, not once ever did
Speaker 1: one eat it. And these are like smaller like five
Speaker 1: to eight pound fish, never eat that. Right, Well, this time,
Speaker 1: like here comes old twenty pound rubber lips and I
Speaker 1: just sent it and the fish sucked it up like
Speaker 1: it was his last meal. And I just got dumped.
Speaker 1: And I tried chasing this fish down, um And in
Speaker 1: the process, because I was trying to move along the
Speaker 1: bank really quickly, my line got wrapped in a branch
Speaker 1: but closer to the rod tip, like closer to me,
Speaker 1: and that's where it snapped. So I lost the fish
Speaker 1: and pretty much all my line, and then I just
Speaker 1: had to go home and it sucked. That's the chance,
Speaker 1: the chance you take, right, Yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I've had a similar experience, just like crappie fishing with
Speaker 1: a little to weight and there are a bunch of
Speaker 1: these big carp in this pond where I was fishing,
Speaker 1: and you know, I I dropped that little like b
Speaker 1: jig that I was fishing pretty much immediately got all
Speaker 1: spooled out. And there's only ten ft of line on
Speaker 1: a two weight reel. Anyway. Yeah, it's like a pocket
Speaker 1: watch size real Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And the
Speaker 1: but before the lion could run out, the cart broke
Speaker 1: the rod in half when it got caught around my reel.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a bummer. I actually have a really
Speaker 1: good future nibbles and SIPs about a cart breaking rod anyway.
Speaker 1: One final thought on this um. In my opinion, catfish
Speaker 1: are are kind of overlooked as a fly target, right.
Speaker 1: It's I know, it's not like a front runner in
Speaker 1: the fly world, but some of the most fun I've
Speaker 1: ever had with a fly rod was throwing a mulberry
Speaker 1: pattern at blitzing channel cats on the Hudson River. Um.
Speaker 1: And I've also stumbled into them rising for for white
Speaker 1: flies too. And I have some buddies that claim they
Speaker 1: can get me a flathead on a streamer. I just
Speaker 1: haven't gotten there yet because that's one of those bites
Speaker 1: where they call you and they're like, bro, you need
Speaker 1: to get down to the school in Philly now, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like like the window is there,
Speaker 1: they're doing the things and the water is right and
Speaker 1: you could make it happen if you get here now.
Speaker 1: And I just haven't yet, but I think you should.
Speaker 1: I think people should chase more catfish on fly rods,
Speaker 1: just saying yeah, you know, it's interesting. Uh. If there's
Speaker 1: one thing you know about me, man, it's that I
Speaker 1: really like chunking for catfish yep, yep. And I guess
Speaker 1: there's another thing you know about me is that I
Speaker 1: really like catching fish on fly here yep. And you
Speaker 1: would think that would be a pretty obvious intersection of
Speaker 1: those two interests. And I've heard of people catching them,
Speaker 1: particularly on mulberries. Um, it's it's situational that's the problem.
Speaker 1: Like I think, like the catfish on fly especially rising
Speaker 1: to something you can't go out and find that, like
Speaker 1: it finds you in all those scenarios. It's like I'm there,
Speaker 1: I was there fishing for carp with the mulberries, and
Speaker 1: until the tide change it was nothing but channel cats up.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, and then your your small mouth
Speaker 1: fishing with white flies, and then there's channels, you know,
Speaker 1: but it's a really hard thing to find, and channels
Speaker 1: are frightened now, right, yeah, because they'll eat a bait
Speaker 1: off the bottom. And I don't know how many times
Speaker 1: I've inadvertently caught them on smallmouth lures. It's I'm us like,
Speaker 1: at some point in the year, and I think it
Speaker 1: happens a lot in the fall, they'll just flip the
Speaker 1: switch for a little while where where these like lazy
Speaker 1: you know, vacuum cleaners just go full on mid column
Speaker 1: predatory mode and they're like chasing bait fish around and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I've just never been in that scenario
Speaker 1: with a fly ride in my hand. So yeah, I've
Speaker 1: caught channel cats on like poppers fishing at night, but
Speaker 1: that's about as far as like I guess you'd call
Speaker 1: unconventional cat fishing methods goes from yep, speaking of roping
Speaker 1: in giant fish, Oh, I got a heater. And if
Speaker 1: Phil doesn't like ancient fish in places where they're not
Speaker 1: supposed to be like last week. Maybe Phil will be
Speaker 1: more interested in saving the whales. Oh yeah, dude, why
Speaker 1: can't you see Phil on one of those whale boats
Speaker 1: in the Antarctic ramming other ships. Yeah, Phil is one
Speaker 1: of the secret meat eat or green piece folks that
Speaker 1: you hear about. You've been outed. Yeah. So this story
Speaker 1: comes from ABC ten in San Diego. San Diego angler
Speaker 1: Matt Capron was out with somebody's trying to trying to
Speaker 1: catch some bluefin on the weekend. Uh. They were about
Speaker 1: a hundred miles off the coast of Point Lima when
Speaker 1: they came across a humpback that got itself all up
Speaker 1: in a lobster pot. The whale hit managed to get
Speaker 1: its tail wrapped around six or seven times just above
Speaker 1: like the fluke. Obviously, like that whale is not going
Speaker 1: super far. Uh so what did Caprin do? He grabbed
Speaker 1: a filet knife and just went full send, jumping into
Speaker 1: the water and cutting away the rope, uh, freeing the whale.
Speaker 1: One of his buddies, Yeah, you know, I was badass.
Speaker 1: One of the one of his buddies took a video
Speaker 1: of the entire thing and it's it's some like crazy,
Speaker 1: crazy footage. But my favorite part of that whole video
Speaker 1: it's you can hear a guy in the back comment,
Speaker 1: George is still fishing. George, you are a man after
Speaker 1: my own heart, and I appreciate your dedication despite the
Speaker 1: context in which you're fishing. Dude, I I really want
Speaker 1: to try not to get off. But that's just like
Speaker 1: triggered a story in my brain very very quickly. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna name names. I've never gotten my buddy to
Speaker 1: tell the story publicly. He knows who he is. He's listening.
Speaker 1: But I have a friend who was on a party
Speaker 1: boat way off shore and a guy died of a
Speaker 1: heart attack. He just dropped it, and obviously it shook
Speaker 1: the whole boat right, everybody was upset. But there was
Speaker 1: like that one old crotchety, grizzled dude who like he
Speaker 1: paid his hundred and twenty bucks to be out there
Speaker 1: tuna fishing, and like as they're zipping the dude up
Speaker 1: into a sleeping bag, he's like, well, I guess I'll
Speaker 1: keep the I'm slick going. It's always that one anyway.
Speaker 1: That's what it made me think of. That's what George.
Speaker 1: That's George. The next thing yeah, I've I've heard a
Speaker 1: story similar. It might be it might have been on
Speaker 1: like the Meat Eat podcast, but somebody was telling a
Speaker 1: story about how one of their buddies or a buddy
Speaker 1: of a buddy died in a duck blind and they
Speaker 1: thought the best way to honor him would be to
Speaker 1: shoot a couple more ducks while they were still flying. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: if I ever die on a boat full of buddies, boys,
Speaker 1: keep fishing. Okay, there's nothing you're gonna do for me anyway. Yeah. Anyhow,
Speaker 1: the whale wasn't like a huge whale, but being at
Speaker 1: the ass end of a whale like that is pretty dangerous,
Speaker 1: like particularly when you're treading water holding an eight inch
Speaker 1: file at knife. Yeah, from my understanding of it, with
Speaker 1: most whales right like like orcas or something with like
Speaker 1: teeth aside, the most dangerous part about them is the
Speaker 1: fluke right their motor. Uh. You ever see that video
Speaker 1: of an orca punting a seal like a mile into
Speaker 1: the air. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes seal.
Speaker 1: Yes dude, I have seen that video, and just personally,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've been up close and personal with
Speaker 1: a lot of whales here striper fishing because they come
Speaker 1: in and eat the bunker. And there's tons of videos
Speaker 1: out there like kayakers almost getting crushed under flukes. You know,
Speaker 1: when those things are just steamrolling through bait, you don't
Speaker 1: know where they're gonna come up. And if that hits you,
Speaker 1: you're dead, right, I mean, you're just you're dead. What
Speaker 1: It's like a tree falling on you, man like game
Speaker 1: over the exactly. Yeah. Well, I mean, granted, the whale
Speaker 1: in the video of the seal was an orca, but
Speaker 1: it just kind of, you know, goes to speak to
Speaker 1: that sort of power that these things have. You know,
Speaker 1: dude was in a pretty dangerous spot. Um, but everything
Speaker 1: ends well, the guy doesn't get whale punted into another dimension.
Speaker 1: Willie goes free. The reporter asked him if he felt
Speaker 1: like the whale came back to say thank you. Uh
Speaker 1: as we have to answer more pies everything. Also, you know,
Speaker 1: free Willie. But not Days of Thunder. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I'm of a certain age. It came out the same year,
Speaker 1: I think, but that's I don't know. The whale may
Speaker 1: have just been like disoriented after nearly drowning. Possibly it's possibility, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could have just swum in a circle. Um any Anyhow,
Speaker 1: the story is kind of cutting dry. The whale got tangled,
Speaker 1: dude freed at the end, but it kind of got
Speaker 1: me wondering a little bit. A lobster pot a hundred
Speaker 1: miles offshore seems like kind of needle in the haystack, right,
Speaker 1: So my question is was this a fluke phil note
Speaker 1: that pun for judgment please on his points. Turns out
Speaker 1: this kind of thing happens all the damn time, and
Speaker 1: not only does it like suck for the whales, but
Speaker 1: it also sucks for the commercial dudes getting their gear
Speaker 1: busted up or dealing with seasonal closures of like good
Speaker 1: fishing ground because there are whales in the area. Like,
Speaker 1: both of those things suck. So researching that a little bit,
Speaker 1: I found out that this is such a problem folks
Speaker 1: are actively searching for ways to get around it or
Speaker 1: help the whales get around it. My research led me
Speaker 1: to an article about some folks at the Woods Whole
Speaker 1: Institute developing ropeless lobster pots, and it just so happens.
Speaker 1: My dear dear friend, Molly Current is an engineer at
Speaker 1: the Woods Whole Institute and works with the whole contacts.
Speaker 1: So I asked her their emails and they never got
Speaker 1: back to me. So the article never mind, it's a
Speaker 1: tool of clubs in your pocket. So than the article
Speaker 1: just kind of details these lobster pots, which are basically, uh,
Speaker 1: lobster pots with ropes that settled to the bottom with
Speaker 1: the trap. Then after an acoustic trigger or a timer
Speaker 1: goes off, the buoy floats up to the top, and
Speaker 1: in that way they can keep the ropes out of
Speaker 1: the water column and away from marine life. Interesting. There
Speaker 1: was also this statistic in the article. Um, according to
Speaker 1: studies by the New England Aquarium and the Center for
Speaker 1: Coastal Studies, three of North Atlantic right whales and about
Speaker 1: fifty of humpbacks between Cape cod and Nova Scotia get
Speaker 1: up in the net or rope at some point. Uh,
Speaker 1: it didn't present it exactly like that, but that's like
Speaker 1: the crux. No I would imagine, and it didn't. I'm
Speaker 1: sure that wasn't a direct quote from the Scientific journal,
Speaker 1: but I got what you're saying anyhow. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I've thought of of whales getting wrapped up in nets
Speaker 1: and stuff before, but it never really occurred to me
Speaker 1: that they get tangled up in lobster pots like quite
Speaker 1: as much as they do. So that makes the story
Speaker 1: interesting to me for two reasons. One, freeing a whale
Speaker 1: is probably like a very very cool experience, and the
Speaker 1: footage is pretty amazing and too it kind of brought
Speaker 1: to light a problem I didn't really know existed and
Speaker 1: let me sort of also flex a connection to the
Speaker 1: to the woods Hole Institute, like saying it FLEs anything
Speaker 1: at the woods Hole you failed. They're like, no, I
Speaker 1: don't have time for you or off researching things, dude,
Speaker 1: Phil If I if I lose this episode of Fish News,
Speaker 1: blame Molly Current. Oh man, it's it's a cool story.
Speaker 1: Don Actually, I love what you did there with the
Speaker 1: lobster pots because thinking about that, um, you know, for one,
Speaker 1: it surprises me that that many whales get tangled in those,
Speaker 1: at least I think it does, because I spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time mahi fishing on them and for them.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about one rope. There's there's basically
Speaker 1: one rope going down now. I guess, um, if they
Speaker 1: tangled one and ran into a bunch of other ones,
Speaker 1: that's a different story. I think that the ropeless lobster
Speaker 1: pots though, super cool idea, And what I what I
Speaker 1: wonder about that is what is the cost? I mean,
Speaker 1: you hear all the time about how commercial fishing doesn't
Speaker 1: pay the bills like it used to. So like, can
Speaker 1: your average um lobster commercial lobster operation afford to switch
Speaker 1: over all that gear to these you know, acoustic tag
Speaker 1: linked lobster pots. Well, Joe uh, I thought the same thing,
Speaker 1: and so I looked into it, and it turns out
Speaker 1: that like that is kind of the big you know critique. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they said something like with the current model
Speaker 1: is like available, it would cost like a thousand bucks
Speaker 1: or something to equip each lobster pot. And also like
Speaker 1: there was something about setting, like the connection involves is
Speaker 1: like nickel plated wire or something like that. That's like
Speaker 1: kind of like a tedious little process to do. But
Speaker 1: these lobs, these alternate lobster pots that they're suggesting, would
Speaker 1: be much cheaper and thus making them commercially viable. Um.
Speaker 1: The other thing, the other argument was that without you know,
Speaker 1: these whales kind of messing up all the gear and
Speaker 1: you know, dragging for instance, like one gets stuck on
Speaker 1: one lobster pot keep swimming because it's a big whale
Speaker 1: and you know, hooks up a bunch of others. I
Speaker 1: mean like that's like eighty a lobster pot, right, Like
Speaker 1: that's like a significant amount of gear, kind of a
Speaker 1: big yeah. So they kind of justified it that way.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, uh, end up might come to fruition,
Speaker 1: but if it does, I mean I would see it
Speaker 1: being a really really good thing. Well yeah, and and
Speaker 1: like like the good human in me agrees with you,
Speaker 1: but like the jerk and me is like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: if you if you do that and take away all
Speaker 1: the lobster pots within, where am I going to catch
Speaker 1: my ma? He's in the summer, Like I'm the weirdo.
Speaker 1: That's like yea wind farms more mahi structure, like put
Speaker 1: stuff out there to hold cool fish, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Was it not on like a recent episode
Speaker 1: or not a recent episode? We talked about that, not
Speaker 1: not on B side. We just talked about it. Oh
Speaker 1: the ma he mean yeah, Episode one was lobster pot
Speaker 1: mahi fishing, which is the bomb. But you kind of
Speaker 1: need lobster pots, so you know, And the only other
Speaker 1: thing I would say, Um, and again I'm not super
Speaker 1: well versed in this. I might be talking out of school.
Speaker 1: Good on dude for freeing the whale, but I've always
Speaker 1: been taught or heard and read that like, under no
Speaker 1: circumstances are you ever allowed to muck with a marine
Speaker 1: mammal living or dead, Like you just can't mess with one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean you could make the argument that that
Speaker 1: like whale had already kind of been like molested a
Speaker 1: little bit by by folks before you know, true jumped in.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, well okay, and he did a good deed,
Speaker 1: So the whale is free and everybody is happy. We'll
Speaker 1: see how happy Phil is with these two stories today,
Speaker 1: and then when we're done with that, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: have a drink in in in Zombie Land Zombie salmon Land.
Speaker 1: Hayden here is going to lead us solo in a
Speaker 1: that's my bar and it's a it's a really really
Speaker 1: good one. Hayden, you're the winner this week. I would
Speaker 1: also like to extend a big thank you to Matt Caprin.
Speaker 1: If we learned anything from Star Trek four, that whale
Speaker 1: that he freed might one day be responsible for preventing
Speaker 1: an Earth ending alien invasion. In that movie, the crew
Speaker 1: saved some whales from whalers by spooking them away with
Speaker 1: their giant futures. Take spaceship, which isn't nearly as cool
Speaker 1: as it would have been if Leonard Nimoy jumped on
Speaker 1: deck and went ham on everybody with a filet knife.
Speaker 1: Best god damn bar tender from tim Buck to to Portland, Maine,
Speaker 1: Portland argument for that matter, Salmon season in New York.
Speaker 1: You know I love it. Got the humma generators, the
Speaker 1: crackling of autumn leaves and beer cans beneath your feet,
Speaker 1: and the lighthearted pleasantries exchanged by anglers hooked up to
Speaker 1: the same fish. These are the sounds of October and Plaska.
Speaker 1: After a long day of dodging egg sinkers, ugly sticks,
Speaker 1: and suspiciously largest as eggs, or, as we call it,
Speaker 1: salmon fishing, everyone needs a great place to unwind. Well, friends,
Speaker 1: look no further than the Altmar Hotel, located right by
Speaker 1: the lower fly only zone of the world famous snagging
Speaker 1: sorry that's Salmon River. The Altmar Hotel is the perfect
Speaker 1: place to debate which color sponge those mud sharks are
Speaker 1: craving and pick up a dry rub recipe so good
Speaker 1: your friends will swear that zombie fish it wasn't mostly
Speaker 1: dead by the time you caught it. At Almar Hotel,
Speaker 1: they can buy in friendly service and staff with the
Speaker 1: ever present feeling that a full on brawl might break out.
Speaker 1: And that's true, the bartender is gonna call you honey,
Speaker 1: while on more than one occasion, I've been pretty sure
Speaker 1: fish weren't the only things about to find themselves bludgeoned
Speaker 1: in the parking lot. Anyhow, you sit down for a
Speaker 1: coal one at the bar and you might notice a
Speaker 1: sign that says, lou be nicer, get out now, lose
Speaker 1: a friend of mine, and if you're lucky enough, we're
Speaker 1: unlucky enough to run into him. You shouldn't know that
Speaker 1: that sign is only half joking. He's grumpy as hell
Speaker 1: and he's convinced you suck at fishing. If you're feeling brave,
Speaker 1: you can go ahead and buy him a shout at
Speaker 1: tequila and he'll be glad to tell you exactly why
Speaker 1: that is. But be warned, he really isn't very nice,
Speaker 1: and he's normally kind of right. Jokes aside. I do
Speaker 1: actually love this bar. It's got pool tables, cold beer,
Speaker 1: that flickering neon vibe, and some surpri easily good live music.
Speaker 1: You know what's not to love from biker's riding, Harley's
Speaker 1: two Anglers, fishing, boutique hardies. The Altmar Hotel has something
Speaker 1: for everyone, including a karaoke night, meatloaf, Monday's Fish Fridays,
Speaker 1: and the Thursday Wing Night so reasonably priced you'd swear
Speaker 1: they were ron if only they weren't so damn good.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty much everything on the menu is great,
Speaker 1: and I particularly like their chicken parm which weighs more
Speaker 1: than the sword covered asenat co Hoo. Your buddy dragged
Speaker 1: in today and could feed his whole family in a
Speaker 1: way less disgusting way. So if you're on the hunt
Speaker 1: for that greasy brown meal, your soul craves after a
Speaker 1: long day on the water, or just want to snag
Speaker 1: a few beers while you try to convince yourself all
Speaker 1: those fish definitely got line wrapped and weren't just hooked
Speaker 1: in the South Mouth to begin with, Grab your buddies
Speaker 1: and head on over to the Altmar Hotel. Just remember
Speaker 1: ditch your studded waiting boots at the door, and don't
Speaker 1: you dare ask Glue if you validate sparking, if you've
Speaker 1: got to dive with this much character more shady characters,
Speaker 1: we want to hear about it. Send an email to
Speaker 1: Ben at the meat Eater dot com and rep your
Speaker 1: favorite fishing bar. Now, what do you think the odds
Speaker 1: are that Lu does costume parties? Do they have a
Speaker 1: Halloween party at the Altmar? Would? Would you know? What
Speaker 1: would Lou be? I would assume that they had a
Speaker 1: Halloween party at Altmar Hotel. Um. I do not think
Speaker 1: that Lu does costume parties. However, if he should so
Speaker 1: happen to do a Halloween costume party, I want to
Speaker 1: say he'd go as a pirate. Like he looks like
Speaker 1: an old Priarty's kind of like long hair and like
Speaker 1: a beard and also you know, like peg like well,
Speaker 1: he also seems like the guy at the bar who
Speaker 1: would be pirate, but just dressing his normal attire and
Speaker 1: just do the the eye patch in the pirate mat.
Speaker 1: It's like, there you go, I'm dressed all right, it's
Speaker 1: just another day of drinking. Sorry, it's Halloween. Oh man. Well,
Speaker 1: we may never know what Lou would be, but I
Speaker 1: did ask our resident Lou are lieu of the striper scene,
Speaker 1: that being Bob the garbage Man Britona, not a Newski,
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you all, I expected no reply
Speaker 1: about Halloween costumes from him. I got this Bob the
Speaker 1: garbage Man Brittona not a Newski, and one time I
Speaker 1: dressed up as an Atlantic City police officer. Not long after,
Speaker 1: I dressed up as an inmate at the Bayside State
Speaker 1: Prison for a little while. But neither one of those
Speaker 1: costumes had anything to do with Halloween per se. Thank you, Bob.
Speaker 1: That is at once deeply concerning and totally unsurprising. I've
Speaker 1: said I don't really know. I don't have any idea
Speaker 1: what goes on in Bob's personal life, Like usually we're
Speaker 1: just talking fish stuff. Um, yeah, that was Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't want to know. I don't want to know anything
Speaker 1: about either of those costumes. What I do know for
Speaker 1: a fact is that he would hate this week's end
Speaker 1: the Line segment because it deals with a striper bait
Speaker 1: that is not bunker and I chose it to close
Speaker 1: out on our theme this week. So I was trying
Speaker 1: to come up with a Halloween related bad or lord
Speaker 1: when I realized that this one allowed me to reference
Speaker 1: one of my favorite Kevin Bacon films I knew I
Speaker 1: had arrived. Well, that's not allowed enough, Burt. Sandworms have
Speaker 1: wiggled their way into pop culture via the sci fi
Speaker 1: horror genre. Three times. You had the Shy Hallud, a
Speaker 1: massive sand worm that played a big role in Four
Speaker 1: is Dune, which you probably never saw because it's three
Speaker 1: hours long and in my opinion, it's it's just boring
Speaker 1: as ship. The best thing to come out of it
Speaker 1: was the band Shy Hallud, which took its name from
Speaker 1: that monster Dune worm, and it is a pretty damn
Speaker 1: good hardcore metal band. After dooone, we didn't see a
Speaker 1: killer sand worm on the big screen again until eight
Speaker 1: and Tim Burton's Beetlejuice. You might recall that if the
Speaker 1: ghosts stepped out of the door of their former home,
Speaker 1: they'd find themselves whisked away to Saturn, where that huge
Speaker 1: black and white striped sand warm with two heads and
Speaker 1: a shark fin wood gobble them up. Whoa sandworms? You
Speaker 1: hate them right? I hate him myself. But it wasn't
Speaker 1: until director Ron Underwood truly cemented the fear of burrowing
Speaker 1: worms with nasty mouthparts into the minds of the masses
Speaker 1: with Tremors and its famous grab voids. I lie awake
Speaker 1: at night often wondering how Tremors was beaten out for
Speaker 1: Best Picture by Driving Miss Daisy and the Oscars that year,
Speaker 1: because I mean, Jessica Tandy is a badass and all,
Speaker 1: but Hoke and Daisy didn't have nothing on Valentine McKee
Speaker 1: and earl Bass played by Kevin Bacon and the underappreciated
Speaker 1: Fred Ward add in crazy Burt with all his guns,
Speaker 1: and you've got a timeless classic broke into the wrong
Speaker 1: goddamn reck room. Didn't you know, your bastard? Anyway, The
Speaker 1: thing is as spooky and terrifying as the Hollywood versions
Speaker 1: of sand worms. Maybe it's freak here when you understand
Speaker 1: that they're all based around real sandworms, and while their
Speaker 1: traits have been exaggerated to scare you, they do mirror
Speaker 1: natural features and tendencies of these slimy little worms. Many
Speaker 1: species of sandworms exist on our planet. They can be
Speaker 1: found in warm and cold climates and go by several
Speaker 1: different names, including beach worms in Australia, though the name
Speaker 1: used most often by science to classify them is actually
Speaker 1: lug worms. Depending on the age and species, sandworms can
Speaker 1: range in land from a few inches to a few feet.
Speaker 1: In Alaska there are sandworms is stick around as a rattlesnake,
Speaker 1: while other varieties are just ribbon thin. What they all
Speaker 1: have in common is what are technically called parapodium but
Speaker 1: look like tiny legs or little feathers running down each
Speaker 1: side of their body, and these, of course help them
Speaker 1: burrow and move around under the sand. Sandworms can range
Speaker 1: in color from pink to red, black to green, and
Speaker 1: brown to orange, but regardless of the shade, they are
Speaker 1: all just disgustingly hideously ugly, and unlike nightcrawlers, they have
Speaker 1: a very distinct head and tail. That head also has
Speaker 1: a mouth from which it launches too retractable, very sharp, hard,
Speaker 1: and pointy pinchers. That's how these omnivorous worms grab everything
Speaker 1: from small invertebrates or bits of seaweed to other worms.
Speaker 1: And if you've ever used them for bait, you know
Speaker 1: they will make every effort to sink those pinchers into
Speaker 1: your skin while you're trying to put them on a hook.
Speaker 1: Sandworms have always both creeped me out and skewed me out.
Speaker 1: Which is kind of the same thing, but regardless, they've
Speaker 1: been a top producing bait from myriad inshore species since,
Speaker 1: like the dawn and time, they have a unique smell
Speaker 1: that fish can't seem to resist, and since these worms
Speaker 1: are usually buried pretty deep, finding one out the open
Speaker 1: is a rare treat for a fish. In Australia, there's
Speaker 1: still a top bait for sea breen. On the west
Speaker 1: coast of the US there are a top producers species
Speaker 1: like surf perch out here on the East coast. Fluke
Speaker 1: flounder and white perch can't gobble them up fast and off,
Speaker 1: but they were always best known here as a striper bait,
Speaker 1: particularly in the early spring when the resident bass go
Speaker 1: on the feed over warm mud flats. Why then, if
Speaker 1: this bait is so good and so popular, do you
Speaker 1: not see it used as frequently as you once did
Speaker 1: or talked about as often. The simple answer there is cost.
Speaker 1: It's been years since I've purchased sandworms in a local
Speaker 1: tackle shop, but I looked online and found a dealer
Speaker 1: that chips direct. The current rate for a dozen sandworms
Speaker 1: in the year is thirty dollars. Their tutorials on YouTube
Speaker 1: for harvesting your own sandworms, but I wouldn't call it
Speaker 1: quicker easy. First, you have to identify their holes by
Speaker 1: looking for the tiny pile of sandy spaghetti that the
Speaker 1: worm discards behind it as it burrows. You have to
Speaker 1: extract them carefully so they don't break. It's tedious, and
Speaker 1: most of the sandworms that end up in tackle shops
Speaker 1: and gas stations along the Eastern Seaboard come from just
Speaker 1: a handful of commercial harvesters in Maine. Now. They can
Speaker 1: only harvest at low tide, and they can only do
Speaker 1: it by hand. There's no machinery involved. Factor in that
Speaker 1: the next generation isn't really overly interested in learning that trade,
Speaker 1: and you've got a severe labor shortage in a niche
Speaker 1: business that has a hell of a time keeping up
Speaker 1: with supply and demand. When Berkeley Gulp first introduced its
Speaker 1: line of saltwater baits many years ago, one of the
Speaker 1: things they unveiled was their sandworm. It was one of
Speaker 1: the first true soft plastic baits, designed not to be
Speaker 1: worked and manipulated on a jighead or wacky rig or
Speaker 1: Texas rig, but rather dead sticked like a real sandworm.
Speaker 1: They cost a fraction of the price of the real worms,
Speaker 1: and I can tell you what they stayed on the
Speaker 1: hook a hell of a lot longer, but all these
Speaker 1: years later, if you walk out on any of the
Speaker 1: beaches frequented by those looking for that first striper in March,
Speaker 1: or maybe a pile of white perch in the colder months,
Speaker 1: rest assured it's the guys that ponied up the thirty
Speaker 1: bucks that have a few pricks in their finger years
Speaker 1: from those nasty grab boids that are out fishing everyone else.
Speaker 1: So that's it for this week. But before we sign off,
Speaker 1: how about one last costume from our amigo and uh
Speaker 1: dost boat star Captain Frank Cressitelli from Staten Island. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you think about it right, all Halloween really is
Speaker 1: is the kickoff to a barrage of holidays like coming
Speaker 1: at your face that you you have to deal with
Speaker 1: and cannot avoid. So I think this is fitting. This
Speaker 1: is Captain Frank Cressitelli. And what are the crazy outfits
Speaker 1: I've worn on Halloween while fishing? Was a full Santa outfit.
Speaker 1: I usually break it out on Halloween, but then it
Speaker 1: makes a reappearance just around that magical time. Classic isn't it,
Speaker 1: isn't it? Yeah, I've actually seen a couple of people
Speaker 1: fishing in like drift boats and off or you know,
Speaker 1: during steelhead season around Christmas. I'm not sure I've ever
Speaker 1: seen it for Halloween. It seems like you kind of
Speaker 1: just wait a couple of months and get your Santa
Speaker 1: fix then uh well, yeah that's fair. But I also
Speaker 1: I would bet that like a guy like frank just
Speaker 1: has a Santa costume he paid a decent amount of
Speaker 1: money for, so like he ain't going out to buy
Speaker 1: like a Frankenstein student Halloween. He's just like, I'll do
Speaker 1: Santa twice. It's like a matter of like, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's efficiency. It's efficiency. Anyway, I hope, I hope you
Speaker 1: guys enjoyed our nod to Halloween. Don't forget if I
Speaker 1: end up murdering my home. It was the Missouri Trout
Speaker 1: Jigs guy driving Miss Daisy wasn't as good as tremors.
Speaker 1: Brian Wise is a very convincing woman. And Hayden would
Speaker 1: love for you to invite him over for meat loaf Monday.
Speaker 1: Never turned down some meat loaf man. Let's on the radio, Joe,
Speaker 1: I gotta say I had a I had a blast
Speaker 1: doing the whole show with you this week. This was fun, dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. I've said it before, it I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: Ben is probably my favorite show on the entire Meat
Speaker 1: Eater net work, and after they fire me, it'll probably
Speaker 1: be the only one I keep listening to. Nice. That's
Speaker 1: that's good. But while I'm still here, uh friendly reminder
Speaker 1: to keep those sale bin items, bar nominations, awkward photos,
Speaker 1: and all that good stuff coming to Bent at the
Speaker 1: Meat Eater dot com. Yes, sir, I also keep using
Speaker 1: those Degenerate Angler and Bent podcast hashtags on Instagram. It's
Speaker 1: the quickest way to get stickers from us. And finally,
Speaker 1: after trick or treating with the kids this Sunday, do
Speaker 1: the responsible thing and check all the reces and rollers
Speaker 1: from betted Sandworms. There's a lot of sickos out there.
Speaker 1: Mans never ever, ever at step at ast