WEBVTT - Ep. 64: Dam Ghosts At Hell’s Trout Park

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<v Speaker 1>Number one on the damn number two, all four corners

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<v Speaker 1>of the damn upright. I'm seeing a damn theme here,

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<v Speaker 1>Christ Bob the garbage Man, Brakana Nana Nowski And one

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<v Speaker 1>time I dressed up as an Atlantic City police officer.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, hey, do you want your fish clean? And me,

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<v Speaker 1>being four, I'm like, yeah, I would like a shiny

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<v Speaker 1>clean fish. Oh sweetheart, the Great Pumpkin has spens good

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<v Speaker 1>Morning to generate anglers, and welcome to Bent, the fishing

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that still dresses up like Roland Martin every Halloween,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it just spends its entire night explaining that

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<v Speaker 1>it isn't supposed to be Rick Flair during a golf outing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Joe Surmeli, and guess who's riding shotgun for this

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<v Speaker 1>entire cut rate haunted hay Ride Hayden Samic, that's who.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? Joe? I am great many Buddy Hayden

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<v Speaker 1>is rolling along for this whole U loosely Halloween theme

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<v Speaker 1>show we're doing since Halloween is this Sunday, which begs

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<v Speaker 1>the question, because I've we've done Halloween. She we did

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<v Speaker 1>a Halloween show last year, so everybody knows. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of Halloween. But I don't know, are you a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of Halloween? Does this? Does this holiday excites you?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I get a little excited, But it gets

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<v Speaker 1>different as you get older, like you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like at for instance, it's a real like wholesome excitement

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<v Speaker 1>because you're a kid excited about running around with your

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<v Speaker 1>friends and getting free candy. Then the benjulum swings to

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<v Speaker 1>the other side around college, when you get excited about

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<v Speaker 1>like completely unwholesome things and Halloween and uh but the

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<v Speaker 1>benjaum swinging back and I'm kind of just excited to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hang out and hand out some candy and

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<v Speaker 1>dress my dog up stupid and oh you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>dress up the dog phase the next phase, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it rekindles is someday you'll have kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Halloween gets super fun again because you see it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just running around and like fall over and crying stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Um but yeah, yeah, just stick with the dog for now.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't rush that other part I just said. Um, So, then,

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<v Speaker 1>what is what is the most ridiculous thing you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>dressed up as? Whether that's child phase or or college phase.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it when I was a kid. I dressed

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<v Speaker 1>up as a hockey goalie, like completely like rollerblades and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually it got too hot. I realized it was

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<v Speaker 1>super inefficient because while all my friends were just running

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<v Speaker 1>from door, like crossing the side lawn and go into

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<v Speaker 1>the next door, I would have to go all the

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<v Speaker 1>way out whatever, like walk away all the way down

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<v Speaker 1>their driveway to the street, across the street up the

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<v Speaker 1>next It was horror. It was bad. So I decided

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to be an ex Games rollerbladeer instead.

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<v Speaker 1>So the only part of the costume I kept on

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<v Speaker 1>was like the rollerblades. And I remember crossing a sideline

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up with my buddies and yelling X Games rules,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I did that, I slipped out and broke

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<v Speaker 1>my arm. So basically you were just kid in roller

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<v Speaker 1>blades was the costume by the end. You know It's

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny though, man, because I used to play a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of roller hockey, and that was always the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I played goal. I loved goal, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do goal on skates, and then like one

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<v Speaker 1>fake period on the street and I'm like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take off the skates. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know all the all the neighborhood kids got together

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<v Speaker 1>and donated candy because I had to go to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds nice, but actually the little ship heads they when

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<v Speaker 1>their mom asked him to donate the candy, they gave

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<v Speaker 1>me like all like the tutsie rolls and the raisin

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<v Speaker 1>boxes and just ship they didn't want. You got the

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<v Speaker 1>raisin nets and the necko way for his man. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how you do when you're a kid. I dude, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I had. I wish I had a story that good.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm actually pretty lame, would you believe? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I have not put on a Halloween costume since high school,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's mostly because I have no friends, and a

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<v Speaker 1>few I do have don't have Halloween parties. If they do,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't invite me. But the last time I got

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<v Speaker 1>dressed up was my senior year of high school. I know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's brutal. It's brutal. Enjoy your youth. Um. This was

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<v Speaker 1>This was at a Catholic high school, mind you, and

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<v Speaker 1>only the seniors were allowed to come in costume, so

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<v Speaker 1>I just basically wore jeans and a T shirt. Similar

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<v Speaker 1>to your ex Games outfit. Um, but I did my

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<v Speaker 1>face up with one of those zombie kits, and I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say I was pretty good at those, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones with the blood and the scar putty and

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<v Speaker 1>all that ship. They're like, you know, fifty dollars at

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<v Speaker 1>the at the Halloween store. Um, I could do them really,

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<v Speaker 1>really realistically, right. I was really good at them, and

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<v Speaker 1>the people in school were freaked out. But then what

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<v Speaker 1>happened is I fell asleep with my head down on

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<v Speaker 1>a desk during class, which was common for me. I just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, just you know, as I this is an elective,

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<v Speaker 1>I will sleep through it. But when I when I

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<v Speaker 1>got up, my face was plastered to the desk and

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<v Speaker 1>all that ship just like peeled off my face and

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<v Speaker 1>was stuck all over my open textbooks and completely ruined them.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's the last time I did Halloween. Textbook

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<v Speaker 1>covers can't protect you from everything, man, Yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, brown paper Bag. You know, it's like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of unsurprising to me that you're good with like zombie makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're kind of a creative dude, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of crafty and ship you know a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, a little bit. My my wife is more

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<v Speaker 1>artistic than I am, but I always love that stuff. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the last time in high school when

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<v Speaker 1>I when I did the zombie makeup deal. But every

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween I'm like dying to to put it on my

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<v Speaker 1>kids and they won't let me. Like my daughter will

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, I want to be a cheerleader, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, perfect, can you be a zombie? She's She's

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<v Speaker 1>like no, no, Daddy, no, she refuses. Um anyway to

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<v Speaker 1>to get us in the Halloween spirit, here's what I did, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Since we're talking costumes, I did a thing. I called

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<v Speaker 1>up a bunch of past guests to find out the

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<v Speaker 1>most embarrassing or crazy or ridiculous costume they ever wore.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll be peppering them throughout the show. And we'll

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<v Speaker 1>start with my bud, Brian Wise stream Retire Extraordinary of

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<v Speaker 1>fly Fishing the Ozarks fame. Hey, this is Brian Wise

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<v Speaker 1>with fly Fish in the Ozarks. And the weirdest thing

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<v Speaker 1>I dressed up for Halloween was a girl when I

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<v Speaker 1>was like twelve, went to an old folks home and

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<v Speaker 1>all the people there thought I was the mom. This

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna sound weird, right, But I can picture I

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<v Speaker 1>can picture Brian and drag like. I actually kind of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of think it works. Like he's got like nice

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<v Speaker 1>high cheekbones. You know what I'm saying, that he could

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<v Speaker 1>really pull it off. That does sound weird. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what Brian looks like other than come on,

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<v Speaker 1>other than nice cheekbones, I guess, but I will take

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<v Speaker 1>your word for it. You don't watch Brian wise is

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<v Speaker 1>streamer videos, dude, They're like world famous set to dub

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<v Speaker 1>step where you've been man, Sorry, Brian, all right, We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get you up to speed on that, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So what else are we diving into today? The land

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<v Speaker 1>of Zombie Salmon. That's fitting for Halloween. That plays well,

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<v Speaker 1>although I think the land of Zombie Great Lake Salmon

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<v Speaker 1>will soon be turning into the land of Great Lake Steelhead.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you play that game, I highly recommend the

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<v Speaker 1>Fate Steel line of rods from our sponsors thirteen Fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've used mine for shad because a long light rod

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<v Speaker 1>comes in handy there, but I'm really hoping to get

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<v Speaker 1>them on some steel this winner. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>now that you're in the bent fold here, Hayden, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're entitled to some thirteen wears what takes your fancy,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm sure I can make it happen. That that's exciting. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a confession to make. Uh, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be truly jarring to more than a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners, I guess. But would you believe that

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<v Speaker 1>I do not currently own a single piece of conventional gear. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big strike against you. That's a big but

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<v Speaker 1>I know you conventionally fished. So are you just saying

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't bother to bring any of the zeb coos

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<v Speaker 1>out to Montana like you just had on hand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty much what happened. Basically. I came out here

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<v Speaker 1>last year after like you know, in like November. I

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<v Speaker 1>came out here in a super in present, so I

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<v Speaker 1>had just everything I owned in this little like hatchback. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there isn't like a ton of bass fishing out here,

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<v Speaker 1>and while I are like kind of beyond me although

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, I get it. Yeah, I just haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to I have had any money to

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<v Speaker 1>get to get a bunch of fishing gear, Yet I

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<v Speaker 1>had to buy like lame things like pots and pans

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<v Speaker 1>and a bed frame. You don't have an Ikea out

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<v Speaker 1>there either, do you? No? No? In fact, I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to order try to order and stuff for my kea.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, yeah, we got it to in four months.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, that's not super helpful, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I really could use though, what's that?

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<v Speaker 1>I would love some hard water gear. I'm planning to

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<v Speaker 1>hit the ice super hard this winter because yep, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everything tastes better when you pull it through

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<v Speaker 1>the ice, man, Everything of cold water always tastes better,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Yeah. Yeah, So if I were to get

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<v Speaker 1>something from thirteen fishing Man, I would love some hard

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<v Speaker 1>water gear. Sounds good, sounds good ice fishing gear will

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<v Speaker 1>get you some black betties. Um, excellent choice there. I

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<v Speaker 1>will work on that, but until then, let's go shopping elsewhere. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because we've got a sail been today that you listeners

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<v Speaker 1>have been begging for. And it's a little mysterious. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a little spooky, and you just don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>safe to consume or if it's riddled with pushpins and

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<v Speaker 1>razor blades. Why did you put the hand to pay

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what I'm getting. Man, What you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be so hurtful with me so angry? Today

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<v Speaker 1>We've got what I've at least decided is the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween sailban item because it's very trigger treat right, could

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<v Speaker 1>be good, could be ship, don't know. But thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>several listeners that sent this one along. Um, there are

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<v Speaker 1>too many of you to name, but at least ten

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<v Speaker 1>of you fired this one off, and I thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for it, but very quickly before I dive into this

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<v Speaker 1>particular item. Um, since this is Hayden's first sale, bin,

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<v Speaker 1>I always like to know, like where where everyone stands

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<v Speaker 1>on the online buying of other people's wears? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>an online classified shopper? Do you look for things on

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook and Craig's List and such? Shoot? Yeah, You're boy's

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<v Speaker 1>been known to be a little bit thrifty like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, what do you buy? What do you like?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you using for dude? All sorts of gear? Man? Um? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've bought a bunch of guitarist from a website called Reverb,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I also buy a lot of my waterfowl

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<v Speaker 1>decoys from like Piste off x Wives and girlfriends. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>full body decoys are expensive. Man, in the best sale

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever found is when you know you've got like

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<v Speaker 1>a a Spern lover swinging the auction gavel. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I do know, dude, I do know.

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<v Speaker 1>And like those posts are so rare and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to be quick on it. But you see every once

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<v Speaker 1>in a while on Craig's List, it's like every piece

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<v Speaker 1>of fish tackle and fish poles in my condo needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be gone tomorrow. Call Holly, and you know it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, I need to get there tomorrow before he

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<v Speaker 1>gets back from work. You know, I'm about that way

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<v Speaker 1>better than this guy's about that exactly, exactly, oh man.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, so here's what we have. I'm glad, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad you're an online classified person that makes this more fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So so here's what we have. Okay, the title of

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<v Speaker 1>this post, and now, mind you, I'm betting that even

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<v Speaker 1>more people have seen this post than Senate. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>out there in all kinds of different Facebook forums. The

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<v Speaker 1>title is secret jigs I use at Missouri Trout Parks

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<v Speaker 1>and the photo is just a shot of a railing

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding a low head dam and you see a lone

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<v Speaker 1>angler waiting just above the damn. And I'm just surmising here, really,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna I'm gonna say it was probably taking

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<v Speaker 1>at a Missouri trout park, would be my guess. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say that's probably a fair assumption. Trout parks, I feel,

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<v Speaker 1>are a very interesting cultural phenomenon and totally and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that what's interesting about him is there are some

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<v Speaker 1>folks that are like very dedicated to visiting. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>what they do. And and honestly, like you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it breeds a certain level of skill just because

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<v Speaker 1>like the ability to rapidly a b test a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of different stuff over fish that you know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>are seeing it well, dude, And there's there's some truth

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<v Speaker 1>to that. It's like, on one hand, you step back

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, trout park, that's lame. I would never

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<v Speaker 1>do that. But if you're into that, these places tend

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<v Speaker 1>to have their ringers, like, ah, that's old Bill over there.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets him every time, you know what I mean.

0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Like it's like it's like a jockeying for position at

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<v Speaker 1>some of these trout parks. I would I would bet. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My my experience of trout parks overall is very limited,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will tell you a quick story about one.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's actually this is a story I told him

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<v Speaker 1>my grandfather's funeral. The I'm coming in with him today, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. Uh. So, when I was a kid, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my first trout fishing excursions was at one

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<v Speaker 1>of these trout parks, and this one in particular was

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<v Speaker 1>like a kind of catch and keep pay to play,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, Um, I'm about four years old or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and I managed to catch a fish, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad puts him in the ten gallon bucket and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I am now no longer interested in fishing.

0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in watching this one particular fish kind of

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<v Speaker 1>swim around. So a couple of hours go by and

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<v Speaker 1>we're leaving the trout park and we passed the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the shed with a teenager and the filat knife,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, the guy kind of looks at me as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving, me goes, hey, uh, do you want your

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<v Speaker 1>fish cleaned? And me, being four, I'm like, yeah, I

0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I would like a shiny clean fish. Oh no, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>poor little you into the bucket. Slaps on the cutting board,

0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.360
<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking that's a weird way to clean a fish.

0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, I feel like it's probably not sleuper

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<v Speaker 1>good for it. And he just eviscerates this fish in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me, and I cried all the way home.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've never been back to a trout park since.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, that's sad. That's so funny. Uh. Anyway, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>story time over. So these secret jigs, right, these these

0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.840
<v Speaker 1>secret jigs, they'll cost you ten dollars, and four ten

0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:55.000
<v Speaker 1>dollars you get ten, so a bucket jig, which isn't terrible, right,

0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.040
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot cheaper than dry flies, a lot cheaper

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<v Speaker 1>than dry flies. Three fifty most places for one blue

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<v Speaker 1>wing olive cause three fifty right, not even tied good? Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyhow, man, uh, I would say that these one

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<v Speaker 1>dollar jigs are not only a good price, but a

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<v Speaker 1>steal for what they are and what they are. Lightning

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<v Speaker 1>in a bottle. Man, I'm going to read the listeners

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<v Speaker 1>the description of the jigs in question. So ten for ten,

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<v Speaker 1>my secret jig that I catch thirty to fifty trout

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<v Speaker 1>a day, no picture to keep it secret. I guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>you will catch your limit daily. I have used this

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<v Speaker 1>jig for forty eight years. Will also throw in a

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<v Speaker 1>detailed diagram of how to use it. Phone number hidden

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<v Speaker 1>four forty eight years. It's kind of odd. Why not

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<v Speaker 1>just say fifty or forty five? Like that's very specific? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know that he's honest, dude, these so

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<v Speaker 1>it can't be exaggerating, right, But so I got to

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<v Speaker 1>say right. In a way, it's kind of genius marketing.

0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like the grown up version of the surprise eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>All the little kids are are are into right, and

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<v Speaker 1>much cheaper. I might add, cause I know from experience.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, you give me ten bucks and

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, this is gonna be good. Like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>like you like this. There are a lot of secret

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<v Speaker 1>recipes that people go to great lengths to keep that way, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred percent. But this is like a wink and

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<v Speaker 1>a nod you've put out on the entire internet. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>surprised it didn't put it on the dark Web. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to keep it secret, and then he assumes

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<v Speaker 1>the buyer will keep it secret. But you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>some point some asshole is going to spill the beans,

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<v Speaker 1>and that asshole is me because I have purchased these

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you didn't. I did. I'm holding the package here

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<v Speaker 1>and I have not opened it, and it's been killing

0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:07.840
<v Speaker 1>me for over a week. I have been saving this

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<v Speaker 1>for this moment. On this sale beIN right here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the first ever unboxing on this podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say, like, I just did this through Facebook, and

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<v Speaker 1>not to be rude, but like, you're not giving your

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<v Speaker 1>credit card to like a business. You're dealing with some

0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.600
<v Speaker 1>rando dude. That fish is Missouri trout Parks. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still convinced somehow this will result in like my bank

0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:33.199
<v Speaker 1>account being drained or my interview man, well, yeah I

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<v Speaker 1>use PayPal, Okay, smart guy. But still I'm like from

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey and trust nobody. You know what I mean? You do? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but but it's it's all worth it to amuse the

0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.439
<v Speaker 1>ben audience. I'm doing this because I want you all

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<v Speaker 1>to catch more fish, god damn it, Like I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to have all the manages. On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to know if you're getting scammed. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it's worth ten bucks of my heart earned money

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<v Speaker 1>to let you know this I'm not even gonna expense this, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even gonna make meat eat or pay or

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<v Speaker 1>what very well could be a mistake. This is This

0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.760
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of pressure on you too, because this

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<v Speaker 1>could be a cloud of anthrax. Like you're watching me

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<v Speaker 1>on the computer right now that I'm very happy I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching you. You're safe out there in Montana. It could

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<v Speaker 1>be a mail bomb, although it's very light. It would

0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:25.760
<v Speaker 1>be the most sophisticated mail bomb ever. But I'm actually listening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's by scissors. I have sat on this for a week,

0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.399
<v Speaker 1>and this is it. Phil. You need to put a

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<v Speaker 1>drum roll over this. I am cutting the envelope right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and together we're gonna see about these secret jigs. Look

0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:44.000
<v Speaker 1>that they're all wrapped up in weird paper. These are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be good. Uh, oh my god, it's just a scam.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that's the diagram. Oh my god, dude, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be kidding me. I hope you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>be kidding me. I'm gonna see I'm hold this so

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<v Speaker 1>you could see it. It's literally a tiny bag. Can

0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:08.040
<v Speaker 1>you even see that? Of Like it's it's protagons in

0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:13.720
<v Speaker 1>all white. It is literally just a jig style hook

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<v Speaker 1>gold with an itty bitty head that looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>nymph head painted white. And then he has just wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>white thread behind it and tapered it. That is it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is all that it is. I was expecting like

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<v Speaker 1>bucktail or just I was expecting it to be like

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<v Speaker 1>some forty eight years dude, this should have been some

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<v Speaker 1>precursor to the trout magnet or something these All it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like is a euronymph with an upturned eye. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a white thread. What is what is? Let's let's

0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:51.840
<v Speaker 1>look at the details. Let's look at the worm on

0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the detailed diagram. It's going to tell you to tip

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<v Speaker 1>it with something. And I read the damn guy's advice

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<v Speaker 1>for catching trout at Bennett Springs State Park. If you

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<v Speaker 1>fish Bennett Spring State Park, this is your lucky day.

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<v Speaker 1>Um Man. How to set up fly rod or spinning

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<v Speaker 1>rod for this jig? Number one, Always use two pound

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<v Speaker 1>test line or less. What's less than two pound test line?

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 1>UM eight x tippet. I don't even know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know does he have does he have some secret line

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<v Speaker 1>that he also sells with these secret jigs? No? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>Always try and fish about six inches from bottom. Always

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<v Speaker 1>make sure there isn't any moss on the jig parentheses.

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<v Speaker 1>Very important. Use an adjustable cork when using a spinning rod.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure you keep the line tight. Tie jig on

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<v Speaker 1>leader between six and eight inches above that and put

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<v Speaker 1>number six split shot adjust cork accordingly. Best place to fish, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>Best place to fish this jig at Bennett Spring, number

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<v Speaker 1>one on the damn number two. All four corners of

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<v Speaker 1>the damn up lower. I'm seeing a day Am theme here.

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<v Speaker 1>Not many people think to fish the damn. Oh my god, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>This is number three, all the handicapped spots. Number like

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<v Speaker 1>jigsie selling way points, number four, feeder stream outlet, number

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<v Speaker 1>five feeder stream from hatchery outlet to stream. This is

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna look. I

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna say, I have no doubt these will catch

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<v Speaker 1>fish like these are like stock trout at a trout park.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not. It just looks like a little white maggot

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<v Speaker 1>or something. This is well, I mean yeah, sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like you know, like it's like what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>waltz worm looks like nothing too. I think it's funny

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that like it's so fish Park, not fish Park in general,

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<v Speaker 1>but fish Park singular specific. And I do like that

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<v Speaker 1>if you took anybody to survey this body of water

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<v Speaker 1>and you were like, where do you think you'd catch

0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.520
<v Speaker 1>some fish? They would point to all this new secret

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<v Speaker 1>spots immediately. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>mad at dude. They're definitely heavier. I think these are lead,

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<v Speaker 1>Like these aren't like a tungsten head or traditional nimp head.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think these are itty bitty lead jigheads. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so funny to me. I mean, there's not

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<v Speaker 1>even a piece of flash in him. Not it is

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<v Speaker 1>literally just white thread. That's always think, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the likelihood is that we have a listener that

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<v Speaker 1>is in like reasonable proximity of this fish park. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are hit me up. It also bothers me because

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<v Speaker 1>now that I think about it, this man has my address,

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<v Speaker 1>so he could now send me anthrax or a letter

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<v Speaker 1>bomb for divulging the greatest secret in all of fishing

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast. I'd good to feeling good. This dude

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 1>is super tech s happy man. I think you're gonna

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 1>be all right anyway. There you go. You know some

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>of you who who sent that I hinted. I was like, look,

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.479
<v Speaker 1>I can't do this without knowing. You can't lay this

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<v Speaker 1>on people without being able to say, this is what

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it is. So that is it. That is the secret

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:20.800
<v Speaker 1>to stock trout everywhere. A tiny lead jighead painted white

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<v Speaker 1>with some white thread rap behind it. That was really fun. Man,

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 1>that was like, that might be my all time favorite

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<v Speaker 1>sale bin right there. Naturally, I'm gonna I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures of these things on Instagram so you can

0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>all see it on Instagram, and and and copy and

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<v Speaker 1>tie theees um if if you, if you want any

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<v Speaker 1>more secrets revealed, you find something on your favorite classified

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 1>online forum, do please keep sending those links to me

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<v Speaker 1>at bent at the meat Eator dot com if you would,

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<v Speaker 1>if you would love us to trash the things you

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<v Speaker 1>find here on the sale bin. Okay, that may have

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<v Speaker 1>been favorite thing that's ever happened on Bent and honestly

0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 1>is one of mine, says and honestly, I'd feel bad

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 1>that we burned dude spots if they weren't so obvious,

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>like fish, the damn fish, the outflow of the creek.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised that he wasn't like fishing the big wet

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.360
<v Speaker 1>thing at the end of the dog. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been thinking about it, and you know I have a theory.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you my theory. I don't think that the

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>dude fishes at Bennett Springs anymore, because if he did,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you do this? Why would you be so

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<v Speaker 1>willing to give up all the goods on a very

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 1>particular location. If you are then just creating competition for yourself.

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Have you considered maybe that you're the only dude who's

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<v Speaker 1>bought his mystery jigs and I know people are interested.

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<v Speaker 1>I may be the only dummy that actually sent the

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<v Speaker 1>man ten dollars. You're absolutely right. Maybe maybe it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a one off, and maybe he's like, if I can

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<v Speaker 1>get like one dude on some fish and he really

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<v Speaker 1>starts talking about how good these jigs are, I'll sell

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch. Maybe he's looking like whoever, but he's looking

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.639
<v Speaker 1>for someone to mentor someone to bring up to his status.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know. Maybe we'll hear from me.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised, Yeah, exactly. Anyway, what matters in

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the end is um you know that that worked out great.

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I did not explode um, and you all learned how

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 1>to crush trout at Missouri Trout Parks Bennett Springs in particular.

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>And speaking of things working out great, let's learn about

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:24.399
<v Speaker 1>a costume that worked out great for my buddy Marty

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<v Speaker 1>Yee of Cross Current Guide Service on the Upper Delaware River. Hey,

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 1>it's Marty from Cross Current Guide Service. Uh. The weirdest

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 1>costume I ever war was probably a full body shark costume.

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>But that's not the funny part. The funny part is

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>is it was actually the cleanest article of clothing I had,

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:49.679
<v Speaker 1>So I actually ended up warning the shark costume for

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 1>about four or five days after Halloween. Worked out great. Uh,

0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:02.840
<v Speaker 1>party Marty. If if this is the same Marty I'm

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>thinking of, he was good friends with a late friend

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:09.160
<v Speaker 1>of mine, Jackie, that I knew from Salmon River Outfitters,

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:13.439
<v Speaker 1>and then also her ex boyfriend. I guess guides on

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the U D a little bit. I'm certainly it's the

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>same same Marty. I mean, Marty, Marty is Asian. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the only Asian fishing guide I know on the Upper

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Delaware River. Is that ring a bell? That rings a bell? There?

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>It is that's our Marty. Yeah, it gets a mean croctan.

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I follow him on Instagram. He does I just saw

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a few months ago. I was like, yeah, you're burned

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>anyway from Marty, Shark is a great choice. And I'm

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna throw a shot of Party Marty in that shark

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 1>costume passed out in front of a golf cart in

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 1>my Instagram story today because he made the mistake of

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>sending that to me. Costume choice that is probably Party Marty.

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:56.360
<v Speaker 1>That's that's Party Marty. So I mean that that costume

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<v Speaker 1>choice may have led to a lack of confidence once

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I post that, But I know someone who exudes confidence

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and everything he does, including choosing a costume. So let's

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>hit another one. Let's find out how our friend Oliver

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>and I gets down on all hallows. Hey, this is

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>all over and I from Big Bass Streams to my

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>go to Halloween costume is Tiger Woods year in and

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>year out, because it works better than a defiant to

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>ten swim bait. Now that to me, if you know

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 1>what Oliver looks like, that is so perfect. Oliver is

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>the perfect Tiger Woods and he I seem to get

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.399
<v Speaker 1>the impression anytime he has to dress up. That's just

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the go to, and I say, hell did If it

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 1>ain't broke, don't fix it. I love it. Yeah, I

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.439
<v Speaker 1>mean I don't know too much about golf. I shot

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>some geese on a golf course one time when I

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>was a kid and got the cops called. But that's

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>about like the limit of my golf course experience, you know.

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I do know about Tiger Woods though, and him, I

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>hope so and him and I have something in common

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 1>a champions minds, and Joe you better watch out because

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing that champion mindset into this week's installment of

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>fish News. Fish news that escalated quickly, big news right

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>out of the gate here that I'm very excited to share,

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>mostly so people stop asking me. That's just that's just

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>real talk right there. Uh, mark your calendars because episode

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<v Speaker 1>one of B Side Fishing Season two drops next Friday,

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>That's November five, on the meat Eator YouTube channel, which

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>means for a month straight starting next Friday, you'll get

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>a fresh Bent and a fresh B side on the

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>same day. And so, how on earth will you get

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>any work done on Friday's Is what I want to know.

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>It says here, I'm supposed to t you up to

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about some details. A nice wait. Yeah, way to

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>put the effort in on that one, Hayden. Uh yeah,

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that's what I want as you to do. But I'll

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>just go ahead and say I don't want to give

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>away all the Jews before the show starts rolling out,

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>but a couple of points of interest you guys may recall.

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Season one was filmed entirely in my home state of

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>New Jersey, which was just as much because of COVID

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>as Jersey being a haven for unexpected fisheries. It kind

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>of worked out, but when we were shooting that we

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>weren't getting on planes and stuff because of the covids.

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>But luckily we're we're back to traveling. So this season

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 1>we only got one local n J show. Um, and

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 1>I have to add co starring Miles multi sad face

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>emoji the Legend lives on. Yeah, I love you Miles exactly.

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>And then and then we're hitting up Virginia a couple

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 1>of times in Minnesota, and I gotta say, if you

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>appreciated the exploration of some of the lesser known fish

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>like the dog and the picke roll from the first season,

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna dig Round two we we chase some unexpected species,

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I really kind of challenged my my own

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>culinary metal. And while this season, I gotta say it

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:54.959
<v Speaker 1>was it was a lot more work than the last one,

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of fun and uh I got

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to hang out and fish with some really cool people.

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>So I'm pumped on it. Yeah, man, I really like

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>this series. It reminds me a lot of your hook

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Shot series, but yeah, but like more polished, you know,

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.719
<v Speaker 1>and that's people are always like, how would you describe

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>B Side? I'm like, it's hook Shots, man, only it

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>looks better and it's slightly more grown up. Otherwise it's

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of the same thing shows more grown up. Maybe

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:23.719
<v Speaker 1>not the host, but no, no, no, I actually just

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>binged the first season of B Side about a month ago, um,

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was horrified to find out that I had

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 1>been missing out on some quality Joe Surmelie content for

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>for so long. Um. But yeah, I mean my buddy

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Maggie pretty much did Did she do all the post

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>on this? Yes, Maggie is awesome. Okay, yes she did

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>all the posts, all the graphics, and that that's one

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>of those things you talk about the difference between the

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>old show and the news show. It's like, Wow, I

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>have people to make me cool graphics. I never thought

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>that would happen. I love it. I love everything that

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Maggie Smith does. It's killer. And it dawns on me

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that when the first season of B Side launched, you

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't even work here yet, did you. You weren't even

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>part of the meat Eater crew. No, that's how That's

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>how I missed it. Right, Maybe down the road hidden

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>you'll be You'll be in one anyway. Well, uh yeah,

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>we'll move on the news here. As reminded, this is

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>a competition, Hayden and I do not know which news

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>story the other guy grabbed, creating an element of mystery

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and the unexpected. We also enjoy a good plot twist

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>which which reminds me of our dear friend river Horse

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and his most zany Halloween costume that goes a little

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>something like this. Hey, now, this is river Horse from

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the Deep South in Texas. My favorite Halloween costume I

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>ever dressed up as was wait a minute, Oh my gosh.

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Nice try. You all feel free to run around and

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>sparkle glows star, whereas Jedi outfits and chase each other

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>with fluorescent lightsabers. My saber is a Sage eight waite

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>fly rod because I'll be out in the canoe all night,

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>stick and red fish into the full moon. Baby, Oh sweetheart,

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>the Great Pumpkin has spins. Yeah, that dude is that

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 1>one's very comforting and sort of unsettling, a little bit

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>unset unsettling. Why what's unsettling? Part of it is like

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 1>the creepy music that Phil kind of puts in there.

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>That's Phil, though that's not River horse Man. He'd have

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>like this kind of creepy some some skinners or some

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>some Joe Walsh jams in there if it were up

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to him. That dude sounds like like like codeine or something,

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I love I love River

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>horse I think he should be part of that calm

0:32:57.840 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>app make a lot of money. I'd rather listen to

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>him at night than like Morgan Freeman or whoever is

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>on there. Uh. He does raise a good point, though

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>he threw us a little curveball there. But we already

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>said that Halloween gets a lot more fun again when

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you have little kids. At the same time, if you

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>don't and don't care about giving out candy man Halloween

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>night is a great night to like go surf fishing

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>because the beach is practically empty because everybody's involved. Yeah, man,

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, whitetail hunting is also a little bit like that,

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Like there's like kind of like that that magic that

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>happens right around Halloween. Still adding fishing too, you know,

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>as long as we're on sort of legendary alternate Halloween activities,

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess. Yeah, Halloween Thanksgiving are both great outdoors days,

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>and I hardly get to do anything outdoorsy on either

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>of them anymore. But anyway, anyhow, fish News this is,

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>as Joe said, a competition, and this week we're offering

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>up phil our very best as normal or Joe's very

0:33:56.520 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>best best somewhat best. Let's we're gonna see if I

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>can break the slide this week, and Joe, I believe

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>you're up first. Man, Yes, I am up first this week.

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, let's see if you break the slide. Is right? Uh,

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>here's a fun one from where that night a big bread.

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 1>This comes from k s at news dot com, and

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>it's the story of a potential record that's very unexpected,

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>though satisfying to me because there's not an ounce of

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>pretentiousness in it. A matter of fact, it was kind

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>of like a goofy jokey thing that happened, but I

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 1>love the outcome. So here's what went down. On October eleven,

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Ben Christiansen was floating down the Pedernales River in his

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 1>little inflatable flycraft. Now when I say this river is

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>deep in the heart of Texas, I mean it is

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.240
<v Speaker 1>deep in the heart of Texas. It's pretty much smack

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>dab in the center um. And it's one of the

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>many rivers that flows through Texas hill Country, which I've

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>always wanted to fish. I don't know if you're if

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>you're hip to the Texas hill country scene, but it's

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 1>very cool. It seems super cool. Maybe let's go check

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:06.240
<v Speaker 1>it out sometime. Yeah, maybe that'll be our B side

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you would meet Texas hill Country. It seems kind of

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>like an A side. Well, I don't know, we'll find

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll find some dumb ship to do and turn it

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>right around. We'll go there to chase whatever is not

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the thing you chase there. That's kind of what I'm

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>about sometimes anyway. Yeah, So so that the Pedernalies is

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>one of those it's like Aqua Blue the water is

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>just aqua. Um it's like filled with limestone ledges. It's

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 1>it's just pretty and and super juicy. Um and and

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Texas Hill Country has quite the fly fishing culture there, right,

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and and Ben is a big time fly guy. In fact,

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the article says he's currently working on a book titled

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>fly Fishing San Antonio and the Texas Hill Country, which

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I would like to check out at some point. Yeah,

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 1>me too. But before we even get into this story more,

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 1>because I know what this story is now that you've

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>said the name and provided the context, Okay, I just

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 1>want to point out another ben our listener, Ben roussel

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I g hand Mountains to Marsh sent this story to

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>me because you apparently never read the news that he

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>sends you. I'm gonna dispute that, because Ben very well

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>may have sent this, but like, I don't get all

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.879
<v Speaker 1>my news stories from listeners. Like sometimes if if one

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 1>of you guys hits hits something that I haven't seen yet,

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>then I'm like, oh, and I credit you for that.

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 1>But strong chance already knew about this and Ben sent it,

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and then like if you just send me a news

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>story with nothing else, yes, Okay, I don't always respond

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>to them. But I respond to nine of my d

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>m s. People will back me up. And that is

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>very true. And I think in order to foster that

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 1>listener connection, I think everybody listening to the Bent podcast

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 1>should direct message Joe and he will get back to

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:54.800
<v Speaker 1>each and every one of you with a very long

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and thoughtful response. I ask him anything, I ask him anything,

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't I welcome that. But if you're gonna d M me, like,

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 1>why don't you send me an awkward photo or a

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 1>bar nomination or a voice memo. If all those people

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>that just listen to hate and say that responded with

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>a voice memo, a lot more you'd get on. You'd

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 1>get on this show more for nibbles and seas. I'm

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>just saying anyway, So, speaking of Instagram, Ben, I looked

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>him up on Instagram, and as predicted, right, his feet

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>is loaded up with photos um you'd expect from that region,

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>smaller bass, some carp a, few exotics that live there,

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and so on. And I think it's it's fair that

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.839
<v Speaker 1>generally speaking, Texas hill Country is sort of synonymous with

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 1>with what i'd call light tackle fly fishing. Right, it's

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>very clear water. You have to be stealthy. And I've

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>talked to some guys down there who said to me, like, yeah, man,

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you you can't come here with a seven weight and

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>rip a big streamer around and expect catch anything. Like

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.919
<v Speaker 1>you'll usually just scare ship because the water is so clear, right,

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>So so that explains why on October eleventh, Ben was

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>wielding a four weight fly rod, which, in case you

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>don't understand how fly rod waights work, trust me, that's light, right,

0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's lighter than your average trout rod. That's small,

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, stream trout stuff. That's about what I used

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 1>for small. Yeah, like like you know, not quite stuff

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you can jump over, but you know, not not big rivers,

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>small ways anyway, dry fly it's a dry fly rod exactly.

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And you hope that the fish aren't bigger than like

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>sixt in um. Yet, when Ben spied a giant ass

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.879
<v Speaker 1>blue cat swimming around in that clear water, did that

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>four weight stop him from casting a damsel fly at it?

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 1>Hell no, it didn't. Hell no, did the cat eat

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the damsel? Hell yes, hell yes it did? And off

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>to the races Ben went for, according to him, forty

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 1>minutes right now. It's amazing that he landed this fish

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>because it weighed thirty one fifty five pounds and if

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>you factor in a light four weight rod, right, and

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 1>then he was only using twelve pound tippet, whereas you know,

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 1>like serious blue cat guys chasing these fish elsewhere, especially

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 1>fish of this caliber. I mean, they're using fifty to

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:57.399
<v Speaker 1>eighty pound leader, right, And then you've got a damsel fly.

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't exactly call it like a beefy salt order deceiver.

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a fairly dainty trout pattern. It's you know, right exactly,

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a small fly. So for that little

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>fly to hang on or at least like not bend

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>out during a forty minute tussle with a fish that

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:17.760
<v Speaker 1>has a pretty hard mouth and fights like hell is impressive. Um,

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:19.919
<v Speaker 1>but it obviously tells me, you know, Ben is pretty

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>adeptive fighting fish like dude knows what he's doing, because

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>there's no margin of error there, especially when you consider

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 1>in a shallow, rocky river that cat can only go

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>out right. It's kind of like how tuna are more

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:34.919
<v Speaker 1>fun and less than a hundred feet of water because

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 1>they can only sound so far. They have to go out,

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and they go screaming off. Big cats do the same thing.

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 1>If they have depth, they just try and stay deep right,

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 1>so you're you're bringing them up almost vertical and that

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:49.439
<v Speaker 1>makes pressure super super difficult to apply there. Man, Yes,

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you can't just rip that rod sideways and reeve on them.

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>You gotta know no. And I'm sure there were boulders

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and ledges and all kinds of obstacles in Ben's way.

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 1>So I also love this. The fly was tied by

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Ben's son just the night before. It was an olive

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>variant damsel. His son named Chips and Salsa because, as

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 1>he puts it, every fish wants to eat it. He's

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 1>got a fly name Chips and Salsa. I love that.

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>That is a great name, very catchy, that needs to

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:19.360
<v Speaker 1>be in in fly binds everywhere. It will still uh So.

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Ben is a strict catching release angler, but he ended

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>up keeping this cat because he was worried the long

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 1>fight exhausted it and it would it would die anyway.

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>But having that official weight could potentially land him in

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 1>the record books because according to the i g f A,

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the current blue cat record on twelve pound tippet only

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>ways twenty six point four pounds, so that's a fairly

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>significant difference there. Yeah. And furthermore, Texas Parks and Wildlife

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>says the catches also pending the water body record for

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the Pedernales and that and that's gotta be that's gotta

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.839
<v Speaker 1>be all tackle. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>that's that they if I know what you're saying, I

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know that much about how water body records work,

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 1>but I don't believe in most cases, um, that they're

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>broken down by you know, tippet class or anything. I

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.399
<v Speaker 1>think that just means he caught the biggest blue cat

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 1>uh known to have ever come out of the Pedernales,

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 1>which is pretty damn cool. Um. And And here's why

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 1>I love this whole thing, right, because many of us

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.479
<v Speaker 1>have been in Ben's position where some big gas fish

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>pops up unexpectedly and you're totally not prepared for it,

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.359
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, do I cast at that? Oh? What

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the hell? Yes? I do? And if the fish eats right,

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>it either leads to glory or instant failure. But for

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that like split second of decision making, you just don't

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.839
<v Speaker 1>even consider your line strength or your gear ratio and

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and hook size, and you just go for it. Um.

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>And the last time this happened to me was a

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago. I was smallmouth fishing on a

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>smaller stream around here. I was waiting using pretty light

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 1>outfit in six pound test and I'm flicking this small

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>brown tube around. And every time I fished this river,

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:55.399
<v Speaker 1>I would see carp almost every time, um and and

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>just for ships, every time i'd see him, I dropped

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>whatever I was throwing a grub or tube or ever

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.439
<v Speaker 1>in front of them, and never, not once ever did

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:05.879
<v Speaker 1>one eat it. And these are like smaller like five

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>to eight pound fish, never eat that. Right, Well, this time,

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.799
<v Speaker 1>like here comes old twenty pound rubber lips and I

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>just sent it and the fish sucked it up like

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 1>it was his last meal. And I just got dumped.

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 1>And I tried chasing this fish down, um And in

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the process, because I was trying to move along the

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>bank really quickly, my line got wrapped in a branch

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>but closer to the rod tip, like closer to me,

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's where it snapped. So I lost the fish

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and pretty much all my line, and then I just

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:38.360
<v Speaker 1>had to go home and it sucked. That's the chance,

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:40.799
<v Speaker 1>the chance you take, right, Yeah, I mean, you know,

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.839
<v Speaker 1>I've had a similar experience, just like crappie fishing with

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a little to weight and there are a bunch of

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.240
<v Speaker 1>these big carp in this pond where I was fishing,

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I I dropped that little like b

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>jig that I was fishing pretty much immediately got all

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>spooled out. And there's only ten ft of line on

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>a two weight reel. Anyway. Yeah, it's like a pocket

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>watch size real Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And the

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:07.920
<v Speaker 1>but before the lion could run out, the cart broke

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the rod in half when it got caught around my reel.

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, that's a bummer. I actually have a really

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>good future nibbles and SIPs about a cart breaking rod anyway.

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 1>One final thought on this um. In my opinion, catfish

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>are are kind of overlooked as a fly target, right.

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>It's I know, it's not like a front runner in

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 1>the fly world, but some of the most fun I've

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.280
<v Speaker 1>ever had with a fly rod was throwing a mulberry

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 1>pattern at blitzing channel cats on the Hudson River. Um.

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>And I've also stumbled into them rising for for white

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 1>flies too. And I have some buddies that claim they

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>can get me a flathead on a streamer. I just

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten there yet because that's one of those bites

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:46.759
<v Speaker 1>where they call you and they're like, bro, you need

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>to get down to the school in Philly now, you

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. It's like like the window is there,

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 1>they're doing the things and the water is right and

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 1>you could make it happen if you get here now.

0:43:57.800 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>And I just haven't yet, but I think you should.

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I think people should chase more catfish on fly rods,

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>just saying yeah, you know, it's interesting. Uh. If there's

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 1>one thing you know about me, man, it's that I

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>really like chunking for catfish yep, yep. And I guess

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>there's another thing you know about me is that I

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>really like catching fish on fly here yep. And you

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>would think that would be a pretty obvious intersection of

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>those two interests. And I've heard of people catching them,

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>particularly on mulberries. Um, it's it's situational that's the problem.

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I think, like the catfish on fly especially rising

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to something you can't go out and find that, like

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 1>it finds you in all those scenarios. It's like I'm there,

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I was there fishing for carp with the mulberries, and

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.839
<v Speaker 1>until the tide change it was nothing but channel cats up.

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:46.439
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, okay, and then your your small mouth

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>fishing with white flies, and then there's channels, you know,

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>but it's a really hard thing to find, and channels

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 1>are frightened now, right, yeah, because they'll eat a bait

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:56.919
<v Speaker 1>off the bottom. And I don't know how many times

0:44:56.920 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 1>I've inadvertently caught them on smallmouth lures. It's I'm us like,

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 1>at some point in the year, and I think it

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>happens a lot in the fall, they'll just flip the

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.760
<v Speaker 1>switch for a little while where where these like lazy

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, vacuum cleaners just go full on mid column

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>predatory mode and they're like chasing bait fish around and

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. I've just never been in that scenario

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 1>with a fly ride in my hand. So yeah, I've

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>caught channel cats on like poppers fishing at night, but

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that's about as far as like I guess you'd call

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 1>unconventional cat fishing methods goes from yep, speaking of roping

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>in giant fish, Oh, I got a heater. And if

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Phil doesn't like ancient fish in places where they're not

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be like last week. Maybe Phil will be

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>more interested in saving the whales. Oh yeah, dude, why

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>can't you see Phil on one of those whale boats

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 1>in the Antarctic ramming other ships. Yeah, Phil is one

0:45:59.920 --> 0:46:02.879
<v Speaker 1>of the secret meat eat or green piece folks that

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you hear about. You've been outed. Yeah. So this story

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 1>comes from ABC ten in San Diego. San Diego angler

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Matt Capron was out with somebody's trying to trying to

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 1>catch some bluefin on the weekend. Uh. They were about

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:25.839
<v Speaker 1>a hundred miles off the coast of Point Lima when

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 1>they came across a humpback that got itself all up

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 1>in a lobster pot. The whale hit managed to get

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:36.920
<v Speaker 1>its tail wrapped around six or seven times just above

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 1>like the fluke. Obviously, like that whale is not going

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 1>super far. Uh so what did Caprin do? He grabbed

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 1>a filet knife and just went full send, jumping into

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:56.240
<v Speaker 1>the water and cutting away the rope, uh, freeing the whale.

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 1>One of his buddies, Yeah, you know, I was badass.

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:01.959
<v Speaker 1>One of the one of his buddies took a video

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 1>of the entire thing and it's it's some like crazy,

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:09.320
<v Speaker 1>crazy footage. But my favorite part of that whole video

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>it's you can hear a guy in the back comment,

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:19.280
<v Speaker 1>George is still fishing. George, you are a man after

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:22.719
<v Speaker 1>my own heart, and I appreciate your dedication despite the

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 1>context in which you're fishing. Dude, I I really want

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 1>to try not to get off. But that's just like

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 1>triggered a story in my brain very very quickly. I'm

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>not gonna name names. I've never gotten my buddy to

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:36.520
<v Speaker 1>tell the story publicly. He knows who he is. He's listening.

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:38.240
<v Speaker 1>But I have a friend who was on a party

0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 1>boat way off shore and a guy died of a

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 1>heart attack. He just dropped it, and obviously it shook

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the whole boat right, everybody was upset. But there was

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>like that one old crotchety, grizzled dude who like he

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:53.799
<v Speaker 1>paid his hundred and twenty bucks to be out there

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>tuna fishing, and like as they're zipping the dude up

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 1>into a sleeping bag, he's like, well, I guess I'll

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>keep the I'm slick going. It's always that one anyway.

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 1>That's what it made me think of. That's what George.

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:10.200
<v Speaker 1>That's George. The next thing yeah, I've I've heard a

0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:13.360
<v Speaker 1>story similar. It might be it might have been on

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:17.840
<v Speaker 1>like the Meat Eat podcast, but somebody was telling a

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 1>story about how one of their buddies or a buddy

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 1>of a buddy died in a duck blind and they

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>thought the best way to honor him would be to

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:32.919
<v Speaker 1>shoot a couple more ducks while they were still flying. Yeah, dude,

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>if I ever die on a boat full of buddies, boys,

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:39.840
<v Speaker 1>keep fishing. Okay, there's nothing you're gonna do for me anyway. Yeah. Anyhow,

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the whale wasn't like a huge whale, but being at

0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the ass end of a whale like that is pretty dangerous,

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 1>like particularly when you're treading water holding an eight inch

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>file at knife. Yeah, from my understanding of it, with

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 1>most whales right like like orcas or something with like

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 1>teeth aside, the most dangerous part about them is the

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:09.000
<v Speaker 1>fluke right their motor. Uh. You ever see that video

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:11.879
<v Speaker 1>of an orca punting a seal like a mile into

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:16.959
<v Speaker 1>the air. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes seal.

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes dude, I have seen that video, and just personally,

0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've I've been up close and personal with

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of whales here striper fishing because they come

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.120
<v Speaker 1>in and eat the bunker. And there's tons of videos

0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:32.880
<v Speaker 1>out there like kayakers almost getting crushed under flukes. You know,

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:35.520
<v Speaker 1>when those things are just steamrolling through bait, you don't

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 1>know where they're gonna come up. And if that hits you,

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 1>you're dead, right, I mean, you're just you're dead. What

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like a tree falling on you, man like game

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:45.719
<v Speaker 1>over the exactly. Yeah. Well, I mean, granted, the whale

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 1>in the video of the seal was an orca, but

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 1>it just kind of, you know, goes to speak to

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 1>that sort of power that these things have. You know,

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:58.800
<v Speaker 1>dude was in a pretty dangerous spot. Um, but everything

0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 1>ends well, the guy doesn't get whale punted into another dimension.

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Willie goes free. The reporter asked him if he felt

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 1>like the whale came back to say thank you. Uh

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 1>as we have to answer more pies everything. Also, you know,

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>free Willie. But not Days of Thunder. I don't like that.

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm of a certain age. It came out the same year,

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I think, but that's I don't know. The whale may

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:31.800
<v Speaker 1>have just been like disoriented after nearly drowning. Possibly it's possibility, Yeah,

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it could have just swum in a circle. Um any Anyhow,

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the story is kind of cutting dry. The whale got tangled,

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 1>dude freed at the end, but it kind of got

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:45.720
<v Speaker 1>me wondering a little bit. A lobster pot a hundred

0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 1>miles offshore seems like kind of needle in the haystack, right,

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:56.839
<v Speaker 1>So my question is was this a fluke phil note

0:50:56.880 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 1>that pun for judgment please on his points. Turns out

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:05.840
<v Speaker 1>this kind of thing happens all the damn time, and

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 1>not only does it like suck for the whales, but

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:10.719
<v Speaker 1>it also sucks for the commercial dudes getting their gear

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 1>busted up or dealing with seasonal closures of like good

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 1>fishing ground because there are whales in the area. Like,

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 1>both of those things suck. So researching that a little bit,

0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I found out that this is such a problem folks

0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:30.120
<v Speaker 1>are actively searching for ways to get around it or

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:33.759
<v Speaker 1>help the whales get around it. My research led me

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to an article about some folks at the Woods Whole

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Institute developing ropeless lobster pots, and it just so happens.

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:48.879
<v Speaker 1>My dear dear friend, Molly Current is an engineer at

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the Woods Whole Institute and works with the whole contacts.

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:59.279
<v Speaker 1>So I asked her their emails and they never got

0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 1>back to me. So the article never mind, it's a

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 1>tool of clubs in your pocket. So than the article

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:18.400
<v Speaker 1>just kind of details these lobster pots, which are basically, uh,

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 1>lobster pots with ropes that settled to the bottom with

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the trap. Then after an acoustic trigger or a timer

0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:29.440
<v Speaker 1>goes off, the buoy floats up to the top, and

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:31.840
<v Speaker 1>in that way they can keep the ropes out of

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the water column and away from marine life. Interesting. There

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 1>was also this statistic in the article. Um, according to

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 1>studies by the New England Aquarium and the Center for

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Coastal Studies, three of North Atlantic right whales and about

0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:52.879
<v Speaker 1>fifty of humpbacks between Cape cod and Nova Scotia get

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 1>up in the net or rope at some point. Uh,

0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:58.840
<v Speaker 1>it didn't present it exactly like that, but that's like

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the crux. No I would imagine, and it didn't. I'm

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 1>sure that wasn't a direct quote from the Scientific journal,

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:07.880
<v Speaker 1>but I got what you're saying anyhow. Um. You know,

0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I've thought of of whales getting wrapped up in nets

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and stuff before, but it never really occurred to me

0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that they get tangled up in lobster pots like quite

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 1>as much as they do. So that makes the story

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>interesting to me for two reasons. One, freeing a whale

0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:27.799
<v Speaker 1>is probably like a very very cool experience, and the

0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:32.359
<v Speaker 1>footage is pretty amazing and too it kind of brought

0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:36.120
<v Speaker 1>to light a problem I didn't really know existed and

0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 1>let me sort of also flex a connection to the

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>to the woods Hole Institute, like saying it FLEs anything

0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 1>at the woods Hole you failed. They're like, no, I

0:53:44.560 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 1>don't have time for you or off researching things, dude,

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Phil If I if I lose this episode of Fish News,

0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 1>blame Molly Current. Oh man, it's it's a cool story.

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Don Actually, I love what you did there with the

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:59.839
<v Speaker 1>lobster pots because thinking about that, um, you know, for one,

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:03.240
<v Speaker 1>it surprises me that that many whales get tangled in those,

0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:04.880
<v Speaker 1>at least I think it does, because I spend a

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of time mahi fishing on them and for them.

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're talking about one rope. There's there's basically

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:12.960
<v Speaker 1>one rope going down now. I guess, um, if they

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:14.719
<v Speaker 1>tangled one and ran into a bunch of other ones,

0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:19.240
<v Speaker 1>that's a different story. I think that the ropeless lobster

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:22.560
<v Speaker 1>pots though, super cool idea, And what I what I

0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 1>wonder about that is what is the cost? I mean,

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you hear all the time about how commercial fishing doesn't

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 1>pay the bills like it used to. So like, can

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:36.440
<v Speaker 1>your average um lobster commercial lobster operation afford to switch

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:40.600
<v Speaker 1>over all that gear to these you know, acoustic tag

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:45.680
<v Speaker 1>linked lobster pots. Well, Joe uh, I thought the same thing,

0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and so I looked into it, and it turns out

0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that like that is kind of the big you know critique. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I think they said something like with the current model

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 1>is like available, it would cost like a thousand bucks

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 1>or something to equip each lobster pot. And also like

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:10.360
<v Speaker 1>there was something about setting, like the connection involves is

0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:13.440
<v Speaker 1>like nickel plated wire or something like that. That's like

0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:16.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a tedious little process to do. But

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:22.920
<v Speaker 1>these lobs, these alternate lobster pots that they're suggesting, would

0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:29.120
<v Speaker 1>be much cheaper and thus making them commercially viable. Um.

0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:33.120
<v Speaker 1>The other thing, the other argument was that without you know,

0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>these whales kind of messing up all the gear and

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:40.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, dragging for instance, like one gets stuck on

0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:43.160
<v Speaker 1>one lobster pot keep swimming because it's a big whale

0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know, hooks up a bunch of others. I

0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:49.840
<v Speaker 1>mean like that's like eighty a lobster pot, right, Like

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 1>that's like a significant amount of gear, kind of a

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:57.279
<v Speaker 1>big yeah. So they kind of justified it that way.

0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure, uh, end up might come to fruition,

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:03.520
<v Speaker 1>but if it does, I mean I would see it

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:07.359
<v Speaker 1>being a really really good thing. Well yeah, and and

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 1>like like the good human in me agrees with you,

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:11.920
<v Speaker 1>but like the jerk and me is like, yeah, but

0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 1>if you if you do that and take away all

0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the lobster pots within, where am I going to catch

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:19.200
<v Speaker 1>my ma? He's in the summer, Like I'm the weirdo.

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:23.440
<v Speaker 1>That's like yea wind farms more mahi structure, like put

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 1>stuff out there to hold cool fish, you know what

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Was it not on like a recent episode

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:31.359
<v Speaker 1>or not a recent episode? We talked about that, not

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>not on B side. We just talked about it. Oh

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the ma he mean yeah, Episode one was lobster pot

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:39.640
<v Speaker 1>mahi fishing, which is the bomb. But you kind of

0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 1>need lobster pots, so you know, And the only other

0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 1>thing I would say, Um, and again I'm not super

0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:49.880
<v Speaker 1>well versed in this. I might be talking out of school.

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Good on dude for freeing the whale, but I've always

0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:55.799
<v Speaker 1>been taught or heard and read that like, under no

0:56:55.960 --> 0:56:59.240
<v Speaker 1>circumstances are you ever allowed to muck with a marine

0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:03.880
<v Speaker 1>mammal living or dead, Like you just can't mess with one. Yeah,

0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:05.640
<v Speaker 1>but I mean you could make the argument that that

0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 1>like whale had already kind of been like molested a

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:13.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit by by folks before you know, true jumped in.

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, well okay, and he did a good deed,

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:20.840
<v Speaker 1>So the whale is free and everybody is happy. We'll

0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:22.959
<v Speaker 1>see how happy Phil is with these two stories today,

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and then when we're done with that, we're gonna go

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 1>have a drink in in in Zombie Land Zombie salmon Land.

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Hayden here is going to lead us solo in a

0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:34.959
<v Speaker 1>that's my bar and it's a it's a really really

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 1>good one. Hayden, you're the winner this week. I would

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 1>also like to extend a big thank you to Matt Caprin.

0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:49.680
<v Speaker 1>If we learned anything from Star Trek four, that whale

0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:52.680
<v Speaker 1>that he freed might one day be responsible for preventing

0:57:52.720 --> 0:57:55.840
<v Speaker 1>an Earth ending alien invasion. In that movie, the crew

0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:59.000
<v Speaker 1>saved some whales from whalers by spooking them away with

0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:02.320
<v Speaker 1>their giant futures. Take spaceship, which isn't nearly as cool

0:58:02.360 --> 0:58:04.160
<v Speaker 1>as it would have been if Leonard Nimoy jumped on

0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:07.160
<v Speaker 1>deck and went ham on everybody with a filet knife.

0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Best god damn bar tender from tim Buck to to Portland, Maine,

0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Portland argument for that matter, Salmon season in New York.

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:22.320
<v Speaker 1>You know I love it. Got the humma generators, the

0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>crackling of autumn leaves and beer cans beneath your feet,

0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 1>and the lighthearted pleasantries exchanged by anglers hooked up to

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the same fish. These are the sounds of October and Plaska.

0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:38.960
<v Speaker 1>After a long day of dodging egg sinkers, ugly sticks,

0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and suspiciously largest as eggs, or, as we call it,

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:46.480
<v Speaker 1>salmon fishing, everyone needs a great place to unwind. Well, friends,

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 1>look no further than the Altmar Hotel, located right by

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the lower fly only zone of the world famous snagging

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:56.960
<v Speaker 1>sorry that's Salmon River. The Altmar Hotel is the perfect

0:58:57.000 --> 0:58:59.480
<v Speaker 1>place to debate which color sponge those mud sharks are

0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:02.440
<v Speaker 1>craving and pick up a dry rub recipe so good

0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:05.520
<v Speaker 1>your friends will swear that zombie fish it wasn't mostly

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 1>dead by the time you caught it. At Almar Hotel,

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:10.840
<v Speaker 1>they can buy in friendly service and staff with the

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:13.680
<v Speaker 1>ever present feeling that a full on brawl might break out.

0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:16.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's true, the bartender is gonna call you honey,

0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:19.919
<v Speaker 1>while on more than one occasion, I've been pretty sure

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:22.680
<v Speaker 1>fish weren't the only things about to find themselves bludgeoned

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:25.480
<v Speaker 1>in the parking lot. Anyhow, you sit down for a

0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:27.240
<v Speaker 1>coal one at the bar and you might notice a

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:31.280
<v Speaker 1>sign that says, lou be nicer, get out now, lose

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine, and if you're lucky enough, we're

0:59:33.280 --> 0:59:35.760
<v Speaker 1>unlucky enough to run into him. You shouldn't know that

0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that sign is only half joking. He's grumpy as hell

0:59:38.960 --> 0:59:42.080
<v Speaker 1>and he's convinced you suck at fishing. If you're feeling brave,

0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:43.400
<v Speaker 1>you can go ahead and buy him a shout at

0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:46.160
<v Speaker 1>tequila and he'll be glad to tell you exactly why

0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:49.360
<v Speaker 1>that is. But be warned, he really isn't very nice,

0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and he's normally kind of right. Jokes aside. I do

0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:57.360
<v Speaker 1>actually love this bar. It's got pool tables, cold beer,

0:59:57.440 --> 1:00:01.320
<v Speaker 1>that flickering neon vibe, and some surpri easily good live music.

1:00:01.360 --> 1:00:04.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what's not to love from biker's riding, Harley's

1:00:04.720 --> 1:00:08.800
<v Speaker 1>two Anglers, fishing, boutique hardies. The Altmar Hotel has something

1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:14.400
<v Speaker 1>for everyone, including a karaoke night, meatloaf, Monday's Fish Fridays,

1:00:14.600 --> 1:00:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and the Thursday Wing Night so reasonably priced you'd swear

1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:21.960
<v Speaker 1>they were ron if only they weren't so damn good.

1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:24.840
<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty much everything on the menu is great,

1:00:24.840 --> 1:00:27.919
<v Speaker 1>and I particularly like their chicken parm which weighs more

1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:30.760
<v Speaker 1>than the sword covered asenat co Hoo. Your buddy dragged

1:00:30.760 --> 1:00:33.120
<v Speaker 1>in today and could feed his whole family in a

1:00:33.200 --> 1:00:36.120
<v Speaker 1>way less disgusting way. So if you're on the hunt

1:00:36.160 --> 1:00:39.240
<v Speaker 1>for that greasy brown meal, your soul craves after a

1:00:39.280 --> 1:00:41.560
<v Speaker 1>long day on the water, or just want to snag

1:00:41.600 --> 1:00:44.120
<v Speaker 1>a few beers while you try to convince yourself all

1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:47.160
<v Speaker 1>those fish definitely got line wrapped and weren't just hooked

1:00:47.160 --> 1:00:49.800
<v Speaker 1>in the South Mouth to begin with, Grab your buddies

1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and head on over to the Altmar Hotel. Just remember

1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:55.040
<v Speaker 1>ditch your studded waiting boots at the door, and don't

1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:58.440
<v Speaker 1>you dare ask Glue if you validate sparking, if you've

1:00:58.440 --> 1:01:01.160
<v Speaker 1>got to dive with this much character more shady characters,

1:01:01.280 --> 1:01:03.320
<v Speaker 1>we want to hear about it. Send an email to

1:01:03.440 --> 1:01:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Ben at the meat Eater dot com and rep your

1:01:06.040 --> 1:01:11.320
<v Speaker 1>favorite fishing bar. Now, what do you think the odds

1:01:11.320 --> 1:01:14.960
<v Speaker 1>are that Lu does costume parties? Do they have a

1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Halloween party at the Altmar? Would? Would you know? What

1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:20.000
<v Speaker 1>would Lou be? I would assume that they had a

1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Halloween party at Altmar Hotel. Um. I do not think

1:01:24.400 --> 1:01:28.400
<v Speaker 1>that Lu does costume parties. However, if he should so

1:01:28.480 --> 1:01:32.280
<v Speaker 1>happen to do a Halloween costume party, I want to

1:01:32.280 --> 1:01:34.440
<v Speaker 1>say he'd go as a pirate. Like he looks like

1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:36.720
<v Speaker 1>an old Priarty's kind of like long hair and like

1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:40.600
<v Speaker 1>a beard and also you know, like peg like well,

1:01:42.040 --> 1:01:43.720
<v Speaker 1>he also seems like the guy at the bar who

1:01:43.720 --> 1:01:46.240
<v Speaker 1>would be pirate, but just dressing his normal attire and

1:01:46.280 --> 1:01:48.320
<v Speaker 1>just do the the eye patch in the pirate mat.

1:01:48.640 --> 1:01:50.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like, there you go, I'm dressed all right, it's

1:01:50.760 --> 1:01:54.240
<v Speaker 1>just another day of drinking. Sorry, it's Halloween. Oh man. Well,

1:01:54.240 --> 1:01:56.320
<v Speaker 1>we may never know what Lou would be, but I

1:01:56.360 --> 1:01:59.880
<v Speaker 1>did ask our resident Lou are lieu of the striper scene,

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<v Speaker 1>that being Bob the garbage Man Britona, not a Newski,

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<v Speaker 1>And I gotta tell you all, I expected no reply

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<v Speaker 1>about Halloween costumes from him. I got this Bob the

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<v Speaker 1>garbage Man Brittona not a Newski, and one time I

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<v Speaker 1>dressed up as an Atlantic City police officer. Not long after,

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<v Speaker 1>I dressed up as an inmate at the Bayside State

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<v Speaker 1>Prison for a little while. But neither one of those

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<v Speaker 1>costumes had anything to do with Halloween per se. Thank you, Bob.

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<v Speaker 1>That is at once deeply concerning and totally unsurprising. I've

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<v Speaker 1>said I don't really know. I don't have any idea

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<v Speaker 1>what goes on in Bob's personal life, Like usually we're

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<v Speaker 1>just talking fish stuff. Um, yeah, that was Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to know. I don't want to know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about either of those costumes. What I do know for

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<v Speaker 1>a fact is that he would hate this week's end

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<v Speaker 1>the Line segment because it deals with a striper bait

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<v Speaker 1>that is not bunker and I chose it to close

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<v Speaker 1>out on our theme this week. So I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with a Halloween related bad or lord

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<v Speaker 1>when I realized that this one allowed me to reference

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite Kevin Bacon films I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>had arrived. Well, that's not allowed enough, Burt. Sandworms have

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<v Speaker 1>wiggled their way into pop culture via the sci fi

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<v Speaker 1>horror genre. Three times. You had the Shy Hallud, a

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<v Speaker 1>massive sand worm that played a big role in Four

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<v Speaker 1>is Dune, which you probably never saw because it's three

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<v Speaker 1>hours long and in my opinion, it's it's just boring

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<v Speaker 1>as ship. The best thing to come out of it

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<v Speaker 1>was the band Shy Hallud, which took its name from

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<v Speaker 1>that monster Dune worm, and it is a pretty damn

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<v Speaker 1>good hardcore metal band. After dooone, we didn't see a

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<v Speaker 1>killer sand worm on the big screen again until eight

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<v Speaker 1>and Tim Burton's Beetlejuice. You might recall that if the

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<v Speaker 1>ghosts stepped out of the door of their former home,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd find themselves whisked away to Saturn, where that huge

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<v Speaker 1>black and white striped sand warm with two heads and

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<v Speaker 1>a shark fin wood gobble them up. Whoa sandworms? You

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<v Speaker 1>hate them right? I hate him myself. But it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until director Ron Underwood truly cemented the fear of burrowing

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<v Speaker 1>worms with nasty mouthparts into the minds of the masses

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<v Speaker 1>with Tremors and its famous grab voids. I lie awake

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<v Speaker 1>at night often wondering how Tremors was beaten out for

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<v Speaker 1>Best Picture by Driving Miss Daisy and the Oscars that year,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, Jessica Tandy is a badass and all,

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<v Speaker 1>but Hoke and Daisy didn't have nothing on Valentine McKee

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<v Speaker 1>and earl Bass played by Kevin Bacon and the underappreciated

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Ward add in crazy Burt with all his guns,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got a timeless classic broke into the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn reck room. Didn't you know, your bastard? Anyway, The

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<v Speaker 1>thing is as spooky and terrifying as the Hollywood versions

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<v Speaker 1>of sand worms. Maybe it's freak here when you understand

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<v Speaker 1>that they're all based around real sandworms, and while their

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<v Speaker 1>traits have been exaggerated to scare you, they do mirror

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<v Speaker 1>natural features and tendencies of these slimy little worms. Many

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<v Speaker 1>species of sandworms exist on our planet. They can be

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<v Speaker 1>found in warm and cold climates and go by several

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<v Speaker 1>different names, including beach worms in Australia, though the name

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<v Speaker 1>used most often by science to classify them is actually

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<v Speaker 1>lug worms. Depending on the age and species, sandworms can

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<v Speaker 1>range in land from a few inches to a few feet.

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<v Speaker 1>In Alaska there are sandworms is stick around as a rattlesnake,

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<v Speaker 1>while other varieties are just ribbon thin. What they all

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<v Speaker 1>have in common is what are technically called parapodium but

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<v Speaker 1>look like tiny legs or little feathers running down each

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<v Speaker 1>side of their body, and these, of course help them

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<v Speaker 1>burrow and move around under the sand. Sandworms can range

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<v Speaker 1>in color from pink to red, black to green, and

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<v Speaker 1>brown to orange, but regardless of the shade, they are

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<v Speaker 1>all just disgustingly hideously ugly, and unlike nightcrawlers, they have

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<v Speaker 1>a very distinct head and tail. That head also has

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<v Speaker 1>a mouth from which it launches too retractable, very sharp, hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and pointy pinchers. That's how these omnivorous worms grab everything

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<v Speaker 1>from small invertebrates or bits of seaweed to other worms.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you've ever used them for bait, you know

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<v Speaker 1>they will make every effort to sink those pinchers into

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<v Speaker 1>your skin while you're trying to put them on a hook.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandworms have always both creeped me out and skewed me out.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is kind of the same thing, but regardless, they've

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<v Speaker 1>been a top producing bait from myriad inshore species since,

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<v Speaker 1>like the dawn and time, they have a unique smell

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<v Speaker 1>that fish can't seem to resist, and since these worms

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<v Speaker 1>are usually buried pretty deep, finding one out the open

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<v Speaker 1>is a rare treat for a fish. In Australia, there's

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<v Speaker 1>still a top bait for sea breen. On the west

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<v Speaker 1>coast of the US there are a top producers species

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<v Speaker 1>like surf perch out here on the East coast. Fluke

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<v Speaker 1>flounder and white perch can't gobble them up fast and off,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were always best known here as a striper bait,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in the early spring when the resident bass go

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<v Speaker 1>on the feed over warm mud flats. Why then, if

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<v Speaker 1>this bait is so good and so popular, do you

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<v Speaker 1>not see it used as frequently as you once did

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<v Speaker 1>or talked about as often. The simple answer there is cost.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been years since I've purchased sandworms in a local

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<v Speaker 1>tackle shop, but I looked online and found a dealer

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<v Speaker 1>that chips direct. The current rate for a dozen sandworms

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<v Speaker 1>in the year is thirty dollars. Their tutorials on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>for harvesting your own sandworms, but I wouldn't call it

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<v Speaker 1>quicker easy. First, you have to identify their holes by

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<v Speaker 1>looking for the tiny pile of sandy spaghetti that the

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<v Speaker 1>worm discards behind it as it burrows. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>extract them carefully so they don't break. It's tedious, and

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<v Speaker 1>most of the sandworms that end up in tackle shops

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<v Speaker 1>and gas stations along the Eastern Seaboard come from just

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of commercial harvesters in Maine. Now. They can

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<v Speaker 1>only harvest at low tide, and they can only do

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<v Speaker 1>it by hand. There's no machinery involved. Factor in that

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<v Speaker 1>the next generation isn't really overly interested in learning that trade,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got a severe labor shortage in a niche

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<v Speaker 1>business that has a hell of a time keeping up

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<v Speaker 1>with supply and demand. When Berkeley Gulp first introduced its

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<v Speaker 1>line of saltwater baits many years ago, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things they unveiled was their sandworm. It was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first true soft plastic baits, designed not to be

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<v Speaker 1>worked and manipulated on a jighead or wacky rig or

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<v Speaker 1>Texas rig, but rather dead sticked like a real sandworm.

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<v Speaker 1>They cost a fraction of the price of the real worms,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can tell you what they stayed on the

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<v Speaker 1>hook a hell of a lot longer, but all these

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<v Speaker 1>years later, if you walk out on any of the

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<v Speaker 1>beaches frequented by those looking for that first striper in March,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe a pile of white perch in the colder months,

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<v Speaker 1>rest assured it's the guys that ponied up the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>bucks that have a few pricks in their finger years

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<v Speaker 1>from those nasty grab boids that are out fishing everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's it for this week. But before we sign off,

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<v Speaker 1>how about one last costume from our amigo and uh

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<v Speaker 1>dost boat star Captain Frank Cressitelli from Staten Island. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about it right, all Halloween really is

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<v Speaker 1>is the kickoff to a barrage of holidays like coming

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<v Speaker 1>at your face that you you have to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>and cannot avoid. So I think this is fitting. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Captain Frank Cressitelli. And what are the crazy outfits

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<v Speaker 1>I've worn on Halloween while fishing? Was a full Santa outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>I usually break it out on Halloween, but then it

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<v Speaker 1>makes a reappearance just around that magical time. Classic isn't it,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it? Yeah, I've actually seen a couple of people

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<v Speaker 1>fishing in like drift boats and off or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>during steelhead season around Christmas. I'm not sure I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen it for Halloween. It seems like you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just wait a couple of months and get your Santa

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<v Speaker 1>fix then uh well, yeah that's fair. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>I would bet that like a guy like frank just

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<v Speaker 1>has a Santa costume he paid a decent amount of

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<v Speaker 1>money for, so like he ain't going out to buy

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<v Speaker 1>like a Frankenstein student Halloween. He's just like, I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>Santa twice. It's like a matter of like, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's efficiency. It's efficiency. Anyway, I hope, I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>guys enjoyed our nod to Halloween. Don't forget if I

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<v Speaker 1>end up murdering my home. It was the Missouri Trout

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<v Speaker 1>Jigs guy driving Miss Daisy wasn't as good as tremors.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Wise is a very convincing woman. And Hayden would

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<v Speaker 1>love for you to invite him over for meat loaf Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Never turned down some meat loaf man. Let's on the radio, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say I had a I had a blast

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<v Speaker 1>doing the whole show with you this week. This was fun, dude. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I've said it before, it I'll say it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben is probably my favorite show on the entire Meat

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<v Speaker 1>Eater net work, and after they fire me, it'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>be the only one I keep listening to. Nice. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's good. But while I'm still here, uh friendly reminder

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<v Speaker 1>to keep those sale bin items, bar nominations, awkward photos,

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<v Speaker 1>and all that good stuff coming to Bent at the

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<v Speaker 1>Meat Eater dot com. Yes, sir, I also keep using

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<v Speaker 1>those Degenerate Angler and Bent podcast hashtags on Instagram. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the quickest way to get stickers from us. And finally,

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<v Speaker 1>after trick or treating with the kids this Sunday, do

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<v Speaker 1>the responsible thing and check all the reces and rollers

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<v Speaker 1>from betted Sandworms. There's a lot of sickos out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Mans never ever, ever at step at ast