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Speaker 1: He goes, hey, do you want your fish clean? And me,

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Speaker 1: being four, I'm like, yeah, I would like a shiny

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Speaker 1: Morning to generate anglers, and welcome to Bent, the fishing

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Speaker 1: podcast that still dresses up like Roland Martin every Halloween,

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Speaker 1: I'm Joe Surmeli, and guess who's riding shotgun for this

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Speaker 1: entire cut rate haunted hay Ride Hayden Samic, that's who.

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Speaker 1: How are you? Joe? I am great many Buddy Hayden

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Speaker 1: is rolling along for this whole U loosely Halloween theme

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Speaker 1: show we're doing since Halloween is this Sunday, which begs

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Speaker 1: You know, I get a little excited, But it gets

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Speaker 1: Like at for instance, it's a real like wholesome excitement

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Speaker 1: Since we're talking costumes, I did a thing. I called

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Speaker 1: And we'll be peppering them throughout the show. And we'll

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Speaker 1: start with my bud, Brian Wise stream Retire Extraordinary of

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Speaker 1: So what else are we diving into today? The land

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Speaker 1: And if you play that game, I highly recommend the

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Speaker 1: Fate Steel line of rods from our sponsors thirteen Fishing.

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Speaker 1: I've used mine for shad because a long light rod

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure I can make it happen. That that's exciting. Um,

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Speaker 1: of our listeners, I guess. But would you believe that

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Speaker 1: I do not currently own a single piece of conventional gear. Ah,

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Speaker 1: that's a big strike against you. That's a big but

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Speaker 1: I always like to know, like where where everyone stands

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Speaker 1: on the online buying of other people's wears? Are you

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Speaker 1: an online classified shopper? Do you look for things on

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Speaker 1: Facebook and Craig's List and such? Shoot? Yeah, You're boy's

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Speaker 1: in a while on Craig's List, it's like every piece

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Speaker 1: is one of mine, says and honestly, I'd feel bad

423
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: that we burned dude spots if they weren't so obvious,

424
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: like fish, the damn fish, the outflow of the creek.

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00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that he wasn't like fishing the big wet

426
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 1: thing at the end of the dog. You know, I've

427
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: been thinking about it, and you know I have a theory.

428
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: I'll tell you my theory. I don't think that the

429
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: dude fishes at Bennett Springs anymore, because if he did,

430
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: why would you do this? Why would you be so

431
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: willing to give up all the goods on a very

432
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Speaker 1: particular location. If you are then just creating competition for yourself.

433
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: Have you considered maybe that you're the only dude who's

434
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: bought his mystery jigs and I know people are interested.

435
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: I may be the only dummy that actually sent the

436
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: man ten dollars. You're absolutely right. Maybe maybe it's like

437
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: a one off, and maybe he's like, if I can

438
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: get like one dude on some fish and he really

439
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: starts talking about how good these jigs are, I'll sell

440
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Speaker 1: a bunch. Maybe he's looking like whoever, but he's looking

441
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: for someone to mentor someone to bring up to his status.

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00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Maybe we'll hear from me.

443
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised, Yeah, exactly. Anyway, what matters in

444
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: the end is um you know that that worked out great.

445
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: I did not explode um, and you all learned how

446
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: to crush trout at Missouri Trout Parks Bennett Springs in particular.

447
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: And speaking of things working out great, let's learn about

448
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Speaker 1: a costume that worked out great for my buddy Marty

449
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Speaker 1: Yee of Cross Current Guide Service on the Upper Delaware River. Hey,

450
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: it's Marty from Cross Current Guide Service. Uh. The weirdest

451
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: costume I ever war was probably a full body shark costume.

452
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: But that's not the funny part. The funny part is

453
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: is it was actually the cleanest article of clothing I had,

454
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 1: So I actually ended up warning the shark costume for

455
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: about four or five days after Halloween. Worked out great. Uh,

456
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: party Marty. If if this is the same Marty I'm

457
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: thinking of, he was good friends with a late friend

458
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: of mine, Jackie, that I knew from Salmon River Outfitters,

459
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: and then also her ex boyfriend. I guess guides on

460
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: the U D a little bit. I'm certainly it's the

461
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: same same Marty. I mean, Marty, Marty is Asian. He's

462
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: the only Asian fishing guide I know on the Upper

463
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Speaker 1: Delaware River. Is that ring a bell? That rings a bell? There?

464
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: It is that's our Marty. Yeah, it gets a mean croctan.

465
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: I follow him on Instagram. He does I just saw

466
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: a few months ago. I was like, yeah, you're burned

467
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: anyway from Marty, Shark is a great choice. And I'm

468
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna throw a shot of Party Marty in that shark

469
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: costume passed out in front of a golf cart in

470
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Speaker 1: my Instagram story today because he made the mistake of

471
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: sending that to me. Costume choice that is probably Party Marty.

472
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 1: That's that's Party Marty. So I mean that that costume

473
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Speaker 1: choice may have led to a lack of confidence once

474
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: I post that, But I know someone who exudes confidence

475
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: and everything he does, including choosing a costume. So let's

476
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: hit another one. Let's find out how our friend Oliver

477
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: and I gets down on all hallows. Hey, this is

478
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: all over and I from Big Bass Streams to my

479
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: go to Halloween costume is Tiger Woods year in and

480
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: year out, because it works better than a defiant to

481
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: ten swim bait. Now that to me, if you know

482
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: what Oliver looks like, that is so perfect. Oliver is

483
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: the perfect Tiger Woods and he I seem to get

484
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: the impression anytime he has to dress up. That's just

485
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: the go to, and I say, hell did If it

486
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: ain't broke, don't fix it. I love it. Yeah, I

487
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: mean I don't know too much about golf. I shot

488
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: some geese on a golf course one time when I

489
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: was a kid and got the cops called. But that's

490
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: about like the limit of my golf course experience, you know.

491
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: I do know about Tiger Woods though, and him, I

492
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: hope so and him and I have something in common

493
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: a champions minds, and Joe you better watch out because

494
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm bringing that champion mindset into this week's installment of

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00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: fish News. Fish news that escalated quickly, big news right

496
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: out of the gate here that I'm very excited to share,

497
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: mostly so people stop asking me. That's just that's just

498
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: real talk right there. Uh, mark your calendars because episode

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Speaker 1: one of B Side Fishing Season two drops next Friday,

500
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Speaker 1: That's November five, on the meat Eator YouTube channel, which

501
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: means for a month straight starting next Friday, you'll get

502
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Speaker 1: a fresh Bent and a fresh B side on the

503
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Speaker 1: same day. And so, how on earth will you get

504
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: any work done on Friday's Is what I want to know.

505
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: It says here, I'm supposed to t you up to

506
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: talk about some details. A nice wait. Yeah, way to

507
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: put the effort in on that one, Hayden. Uh yeah,

508
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: that's what I want as you to do. But I'll

509
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: just go ahead and say I don't want to give

510
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: away all the Jews before the show starts rolling out,

511
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: but a couple of points of interest you guys may recall.

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Speaker 1: Season one was filmed entirely in my home state of

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00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: New Jersey, which was just as much because of COVID

514
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: as Jersey being a haven for unexpected fisheries. It kind

515
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: of worked out, but when we were shooting that we

516
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: weren't getting on planes and stuff because of the covids.

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00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: But luckily we're we're back to traveling. So this season

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00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: we only got one local n J show. Um, and

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00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: I have to add co starring Miles multi sad face

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00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: emoji the Legend lives on. Yeah, I love you Miles exactly.

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00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: And then and then we're hitting up Virginia a couple

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00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: of times in Minnesota, and I gotta say, if you

523
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: appreciated the exploration of some of the lesser known fish

524
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: like the dog and the picke roll from the first season,

525
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna dig Round two we we chase some unexpected species,

526
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Speaker 1: and uh, I really kind of challenged my my own

527
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: culinary metal. And while this season, I gotta say it

528
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: was it was a lot more work than the last one,

529
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun and uh I got

530
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: to hang out and fish with some really cool people.

531
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Speaker 1: So I'm pumped on it. Yeah, man, I really like

532
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: this series. It reminds me a lot of your hook

533
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: Shot series, but yeah, but like more polished, you know,

534
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 1: and that's people are always like, how would you describe

535
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: B Side? I'm like, it's hook Shots, man, only it

536
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: looks better and it's slightly more grown up. Otherwise it's

537
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing shows more grown up. Maybe

538
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 1: not the host, but no, no, no, I actually just

539
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: binged the first season of B Side about a month ago, um,

540
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: and I was horrified to find out that I had

541
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: been missing out on some quality Joe Surmelie content for

542
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: for so long. Um. But yeah, I mean my buddy

543
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Speaker 1: Maggie pretty much did Did she do all the post

544
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: on this? Yes, Maggie is awesome. Okay, yes she did

545
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: all the posts, all the graphics, and that that's one

546
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: of those things you talk about the difference between the

547
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: old show and the news show. It's like, Wow, I

548
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: have people to make me cool graphics. I never thought

549
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: that would happen. I love it. I love everything that

550
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: Maggie Smith does. It's killer. And it dawns on me

551
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: that when the first season of B Side launched, you

552
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: didn't even work here yet, did you. You weren't even

553
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: part of the meat Eater crew. No, that's how That's

554
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: how I missed it. Right, Maybe down the road hidden

555
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: you'll be You'll be in one anyway. Well, uh yeah,

556
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: we'll move on the news here. As reminded, this is

557
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: a competition, Hayden and I do not know which news

558
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: story the other guy grabbed, creating an element of mystery

559
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: and the unexpected. We also enjoy a good plot twist

560
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: which which reminds me of our dear friend river Horse

561
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: and his most zany Halloween costume that goes a little

562
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: something like this. Hey, now, this is river Horse from

563
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: the Deep South in Texas. My favorite Halloween costume I

564
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: ever dressed up as was wait a minute, Oh my gosh.

565
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: Nice try. You all feel free to run around and

566
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: sparkle glows star, whereas Jedi outfits and chase each other

567
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: with fluorescent lightsabers. My saber is a Sage eight waite

568
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: fly rod because I'll be out in the canoe all night,

569
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: stick and red fish into the full moon. Baby, Oh sweetheart,

570
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: the Great Pumpkin has spins. Yeah, that dude is that

571
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: one's very comforting and sort of unsettling, a little bit

572
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: unset unsettling. Why what's unsettling? Part of it is like

573
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: the creepy music that Phil kind of puts in there.

574
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: That's Phil, though that's not River horse Man. He'd have

575
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: like this kind of creepy some some skinners or some

576
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: some Joe Walsh jams in there if it were up

577
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: to him. That dude sounds like like like codeine or something,

578
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I love I love River

579
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: horse I think he should be part of that calm

580
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: app make a lot of money. I'd rather listen to

581
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: him at night than like Morgan Freeman or whoever is

582
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: on there. Uh. He does raise a good point, though

583
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: he threw us a little curveball there. But we already

584
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: said that Halloween gets a lot more fun again when

585
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: you have little kids. At the same time, if you

586
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: don't and don't care about giving out candy man Halloween

587
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: night is a great night to like go surf fishing

588
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: because the beach is practically empty because everybody's involved. Yeah, man,

589
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, whitetail hunting is also a little bit like that,

590
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: Like there's like kind of like that that magic that

591
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: happens right around Halloween. Still adding fishing too, you know,

592
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: as long as we're on sort of legendary alternate Halloween activities,

593
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, Halloween Thanksgiving are both great outdoors days,

594
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: and I hardly get to do anything outdoorsy on either

595
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: of them anymore. But anyway, anyhow, fish News this is,

596
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: as Joe said, a competition, and this week we're offering

597
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: up phil our very best as normal or Joe's very

598
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: best best somewhat best. Let's we're gonna see if I

599
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: can break the slide this week, and Joe, I believe

600
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: you're up first. Man, Yes, I am up first this week.

601
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, let's see if you break the slide. Is right? Uh,

602
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: here's a fun one from where that night a big bread.

603
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: This comes from k s at news dot com, and

604
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: it's the story of a potential record that's very unexpected,

605
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: though satisfying to me because there's not an ounce of

606
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: pretentiousness in it. A matter of fact, it was kind

607
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: of like a goofy jokey thing that happened, but I

608
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: love the outcome. So here's what went down. On October eleven,

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00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: Ben Christiansen was floating down the Pedernales River in his

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Speaker 1: little inflatable flycraft. Now when I say this river is

611
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Speaker 1: deep in the heart of Texas, I mean it is

612
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Speaker 1: deep in the heart of Texas. It's pretty much smack

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00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: dab in the center um. And it's one of the

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Speaker 1: many rivers that flows through Texas hill Country, which I've

615
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: always wanted to fish. I don't know if you're if

616
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: you're hip to the Texas hill country scene, but it's

617
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: very cool. It seems super cool. Maybe let's go check

618
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: it out sometime. Yeah, maybe that'll be our B side

619
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: you would meet Texas hill Country. It seems kind of

620
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: like an A side. Well, I don't know, we'll find

621
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: we'll find some dumb ship to do and turn it

622
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: right around. We'll go there to chase whatever is not

623
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: the thing you chase there. That's kind of what I'm

624
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: about sometimes anyway. Yeah, So so that the Pedernalies is

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00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: one of those it's like Aqua Blue the water is

626
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: just aqua. Um it's like filled with limestone ledges. It's

627
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: it's just pretty and and super juicy. Um and and

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00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: Texas Hill Country has quite the fly fishing culture there, right,

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Speaker 1: and and Ben is a big time fly guy. In fact,

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Speaker 1: the article says he's currently working on a book titled

631
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Speaker 1: fly Fishing San Antonio and the Texas Hill Country, which

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00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: I would like to check out at some point. Yeah,

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00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: me too. But before we even get into this story more,

634
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: because I know what this story is now that you've

635
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: said the name and provided the context, Okay, I just

636
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: want to point out another ben our listener, Ben roussel

637
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: I g hand Mountains to Marsh sent this story to

638
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: me because you apparently never read the news that he

639
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: sends you. I'm gonna dispute that, because Ben very well

640
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: may have sent this, but like, I don't get all

641
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: my news stories from listeners. Like sometimes if if one

642
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: of you guys hits hits something that I haven't seen yet,

643
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh, and I credit you for that.

644
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: But strong chance already knew about this and Ben sent it,

645
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: and then like if you just send me a news

646
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: story with nothing else, yes, Okay, I don't always respond

647
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: to them. But I respond to nine of my d

648
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: m s. People will back me up. And that is

649
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: very true. And I think in order to foster that

650
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: listener connection, I think everybody listening to the Bent podcast

651
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: should direct message Joe and he will get back to

652
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: each and every one of you with a very long

653
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: and thoughtful response. I ask him anything, I ask him anything,

654
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: doesn't I welcome that. But if you're gonna d M me, like,

655
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: why don't you send me an awkward photo or a

656
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: bar nomination or a voice memo. If all those people

657
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: that just listen to hate and say that responded with

658
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: a voice memo, a lot more you'd get on. You'd

659
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: get on this show more for nibbles and seas. I'm

660
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: just saying anyway, So, speaking of Instagram, Ben, I looked

661
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: him up on Instagram, and as predicted, right, his feet

662
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: is loaded up with photos um you'd expect from that region,

663
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: smaller bass, some carp a, few exotics that live there,

664
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: and so on. And I think it's it's fair that

665
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: generally speaking, Texas hill Country is sort of synonymous with

666
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: with what i'd call light tackle fly fishing. Right, it's

667
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: very clear water. You have to be stealthy. And I've

668
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: talked to some guys down there who said to me, like, yeah, man,

669
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: you you can't come here with a seven weight and

670
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: rip a big streamer around and expect catch anything. Like

671
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: you'll usually just scare ship because the water is so clear, right,

672
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: So so that explains why on October eleventh, Ben was

673
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: wielding a four weight fly rod, which, in case you

674
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: don't understand how fly rod waights work, trust me, that's light, right,

675
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that's lighter than your average trout rod. That's small,

676
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: you know, stream trout stuff. That's about what I used

677
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: for small. Yeah, like like you know, not quite stuff

678
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: you can jump over, but you know, not not big rivers,

679
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: small ways anyway, dry fly it's a dry fly rod exactly.

680
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: And you hope that the fish aren't bigger than like

681
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: sixt in um. Yet, when Ben spied a giant ass

682
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: blue cat swimming around in that clear water, did that

683
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: four weight stop him from casting a damsel fly at it?

684
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: Hell no, it didn't. Hell no, did the cat eat

685
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: the damsel? Hell yes, hell yes it did? And off

686
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: to the races Ben went for, according to him, forty

687
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: minutes right now. It's amazing that he landed this fish

688
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: because it weighed thirty one fifty five pounds and if

689
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: you factor in a light four weight rod, right, and

690
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: then he was only using twelve pound tippet, whereas you know,

691
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: like serious blue cat guys chasing these fish elsewhere, especially

692
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: fish of this caliber. I mean, they're using fifty to

693
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: eighty pound leader, right, And then you've got a damsel fly.

694
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't exactly call it like a beefy salt order deceiver.

695
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: It's a fairly dainty trout pattern. It's you know, right exactly,

696
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: it's a it's a small fly. So for that little

697
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: fly to hang on or at least like not bend

698
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: out during a forty minute tussle with a fish that

699
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: has a pretty hard mouth and fights like hell is impressive. Um,

700
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: but it obviously tells me, you know, Ben is pretty

701
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: adeptive fighting fish like dude knows what he's doing, because

702
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: there's no margin of error there, especially when you consider

703
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: in a shallow, rocky river that cat can only go

704
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: out right. It's kind of like how tuna are more

705
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: fun and less than a hundred feet of water because

706
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: they can only sound so far. They have to go out,

707
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: and they go screaming off. Big cats do the same thing.

708
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: If they have depth, they just try and stay deep right,

709
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: so you're you're bringing them up almost vertical and that

710
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: makes pressure super super difficult to apply there. Man, Yes,

711
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: you can't just rip that rod sideways and reeve on them.

712
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: You gotta know no. And I'm sure there were boulders

713
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: and ledges and all kinds of obstacles in Ben's way.

714
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: So I also love this. The fly was tied by

715
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: Ben's son just the night before. It was an olive

716
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: variant damsel. His son named Chips and Salsa because, as

717
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: he puts it, every fish wants to eat it. He's

718
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: got a fly name Chips and Salsa. I love that.

719
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: That is a great name, very catchy, that needs to

720
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: be in in fly binds everywhere. It will still uh So.

721
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: Ben is a strict catching release angler, but he ended

722
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: up keeping this cat because he was worried the long

723
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: fight exhausted it and it would it would die anyway.

724
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: But having that official weight could potentially land him in

725
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: the record books because according to the i g f A,

726
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: the current blue cat record on twelve pound tippet only

727
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: ways twenty six point four pounds, so that's a fairly

728
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: significant difference there. Yeah. And furthermore, Texas Parks and Wildlife

729
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: says the catches also pending the water body record for

730
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: the Pedernales and that and that's gotta be that's gotta

731
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: be all tackle. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if

732
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: that's that they if I know what you're saying, I

733
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: don't know that much about how water body records work,

734
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: but I don't believe in most cases, um, that they're

735
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: broken down by you know, tippet class or anything. I

736
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: think that just means he caught the biggest blue cat

737
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: uh known to have ever come out of the Pedernales,

738
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: which is pretty damn cool. Um. And And here's why

739
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: I love this whole thing, right, because many of us

740
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 1: have been in Ben's position where some big gas fish

741
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: pops up unexpectedly and you're totally not prepared for it,

742
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: and you're like, do I cast at that? Oh? What

743
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: the hell? Yes? I do? And if the fish eats right,

744
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: it either leads to glory or instant failure. But for

745
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: that like split second of decision making, you just don't

746
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: even consider your line strength or your gear ratio and

747
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: and hook size, and you just go for it. Um.

748
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: And the last time this happened to me was a

749
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I was smallmouth fishing on a

750
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: smaller stream around here. I was waiting using pretty light

751
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: outfit in six pound test and I'm flicking this small

752
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: brown tube around. And every time I fished this river,

753
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: I would see carp almost every time, um and and

754
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: just for ships, every time i'd see him, I dropped

755
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: whatever I was throwing a grub or tube or ever

756
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 1: in front of them, and never, not once ever did

757
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: one eat it. And these are like smaller like five

758
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: to eight pound fish, never eat that. Right, Well, this time,

759
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: like here comes old twenty pound rubber lips and I

760
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: just sent it and the fish sucked it up like

761
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: it was his last meal. And I just got dumped.

762
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: And I tried chasing this fish down, um And in

763
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: the process, because I was trying to move along the

764
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: bank really quickly, my line got wrapped in a branch

765
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: but closer to the rod tip, like closer to me,

766
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: and that's where it snapped. So I lost the fish

767
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: and pretty much all my line, and then I just

768
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: had to go home and it sucked. That's the chance,

769
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: the chance you take, right, Yeah, I mean, you know,

770
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: I've had a similar experience, just like crappie fishing with

771
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: a little to weight and there are a bunch of

772
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: these big carp in this pond where I was fishing,

773
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: and you know, I I dropped that little like b

774
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: jig that I was fishing pretty much immediately got all

775
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: spooled out. And there's only ten ft of line on

776
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: a two weight reel. Anyway. Yeah, it's like a pocket

777
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: watch size real Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And the

778
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: but before the lion could run out, the cart broke

779
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: the rod in half when it got caught around my reel.

780
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a bummer. I actually have a really

781
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: good future nibbles and SIPs about a cart breaking rod anyway.

782
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: One final thought on this um. In my opinion, catfish

783
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: are are kind of overlooked as a fly target, right.

784
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: It's I know, it's not like a front runner in

785
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: the fly world, but some of the most fun I've

786
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: ever had with a fly rod was throwing a mulberry

787
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: pattern at blitzing channel cats on the Hudson River. Um.

788
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: And I've also stumbled into them rising for for white

789
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: flies too. And I have some buddies that claim they

790
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: can get me a flathead on a streamer. I just

791
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: haven't gotten there yet because that's one of those bites

792
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: where they call you and they're like, bro, you need

793
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: to get down to the school in Philly now, you

794
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like like the window is there,

795
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: they're doing the things and the water is right and

796
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: you could make it happen if you get here now.

797
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: And I just haven't yet, but I think you should.

798
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: I think people should chase more catfish on fly rods,

799
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: just saying yeah, you know, it's interesting. Uh. If there's

800
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: one thing you know about me, man, it's that I

801
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: really like chunking for catfish yep, yep. And I guess

802
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: there's another thing you know about me is that I

803
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: really like catching fish on fly here yep. And you

804
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: would think that would be a pretty obvious intersection of

805
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: those two interests. And I've heard of people catching them,

806
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: particularly on mulberries. Um, it's it's situational that's the problem.

807
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: Like I think, like the catfish on fly especially rising

808
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: to something you can't go out and find that, like

809
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: it finds you in all those scenarios. It's like I'm there,

810
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: I was there fishing for carp with the mulberries, and

811
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: until the tide change it was nothing but channel cats up.

812
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, and then your your small mouth

813
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: fishing with white flies, and then there's channels, you know,

814
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: but it's a really hard thing to find, and channels

815
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: are frightened now, right, yeah, because they'll eat a bait

816
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: off the bottom. And I don't know how many times

817
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: I've inadvertently caught them on smallmouth lures. It's I'm us like,

818
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: at some point in the year, and I think it

819
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: happens a lot in the fall, they'll just flip the

820
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 1: switch for a little while where where these like lazy

821
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, vacuum cleaners just go full on mid column

822
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: predatory mode and they're like chasing bait fish around and

823
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I've just never been in that scenario

824
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: with a fly ride in my hand. So yeah, I've

825
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: caught channel cats on like poppers fishing at night, but

826
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: that's about as far as like I guess you'd call

827
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: unconventional cat fishing methods goes from yep, speaking of roping

828
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: in giant fish, Oh, I got a heater. And if

829
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: Phil doesn't like ancient fish in places where they're not

830
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be like last week. Maybe Phil will be

831
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: more interested in saving the whales. Oh yeah, dude, why

832
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: can't you see Phil on one of those whale boats

833
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: in the Antarctic ramming other ships. Yeah, Phil is one

834
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: of the secret meat eat or green piece folks that

835
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: you hear about. You've been outed. Yeah. So this story

836
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: comes from ABC ten in San Diego. San Diego angler

837
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: Matt Capron was out with somebody's trying to trying to

838
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: catch some bluefin on the weekend. Uh. They were about

839
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: a hundred miles off the coast of Point Lima when

840
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: they came across a humpback that got itself all up

841
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: in a lobster pot. The whale hit managed to get

842
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: its tail wrapped around six or seven times just above

843
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: like the fluke. Obviously, like that whale is not going

844
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: super far. Uh so what did Caprin do? He grabbed

845
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: a filet knife and just went full send, jumping into

846
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: the water and cutting away the rope, uh, freeing the whale.

847
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: One of his buddies, Yeah, you know, I was badass.

848
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 1: One of the one of his buddies took a video

849
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: of the entire thing and it's it's some like crazy,

850
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: crazy footage. But my favorite part of that whole video

851
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: it's you can hear a guy in the back comment,

852
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: George is still fishing. George, you are a man after

853
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: my own heart, and I appreciate your dedication despite the

854
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: context in which you're fishing. Dude, I I really want

855
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: to try not to get off. But that's just like

856
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: triggered a story in my brain very very quickly. I'm

857
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: not gonna name names. I've never gotten my buddy to

858
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: tell the story publicly. He knows who he is. He's listening.

859
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: But I have a friend who was on a party

860
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: boat way off shore and a guy died of a

861
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: heart attack. He just dropped it, and obviously it shook

862
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: the whole boat right, everybody was upset. But there was

863
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: like that one old crotchety, grizzled dude who like he

864
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: paid his hundred and twenty bucks to be out there

865
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: tuna fishing, and like as they're zipping the dude up

866
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: into a sleeping bag, he's like, well, I guess I'll

867
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: keep the I'm slick going. It's always that one anyway.

868
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: That's what it made me think of. That's what George.

869
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: That's George. The next thing yeah, I've I've heard a

870
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: story similar. It might be it might have been on

871
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: like the Meat Eat podcast, but somebody was telling a

872
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: story about how one of their buddies or a buddy

873
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: of a buddy died in a duck blind and they

874
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: thought the best way to honor him would be to

875
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: shoot a couple more ducks while they were still flying. Yeah, dude,

876
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: if I ever die on a boat full of buddies, boys,

877
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: keep fishing. Okay, there's nothing you're gonna do for me anyway. Yeah. Anyhow,

878
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: the whale wasn't like a huge whale, but being at

879
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: the ass end of a whale like that is pretty dangerous,

880
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: like particularly when you're treading water holding an eight inch

881
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: file at knife. Yeah, from my understanding of it, with

882
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: most whales right like like orcas or something with like

883
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: teeth aside, the most dangerous part about them is the

884
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: fluke right their motor. Uh. You ever see that video

885
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: of an orca punting a seal like a mile into

886
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:16,959
Speaker 1: the air. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes seal.

887
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: Yes dude, I have seen that video, and just personally,

888
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've been up close and personal with

889
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: a lot of whales here striper fishing because they come

890
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: in and eat the bunker. And there's tons of videos

891
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: out there like kayakers almost getting crushed under flukes. You know,

892
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: when those things are just steamrolling through bait, you don't

893
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: know where they're gonna come up. And if that hits you,

894
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: you're dead, right, I mean, you're just you're dead. What

895
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: It's like a tree falling on you, man like game

896
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: over the exactly. Yeah. Well, I mean, granted, the whale

897
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: in the video of the seal was an orca, but

898
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: it just kind of, you know, goes to speak to

899
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: that sort of power that these things have. You know,

900
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: dude was in a pretty dangerous spot. Um, but everything

901
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: ends well, the guy doesn't get whale punted into another dimension.

902
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: Willie goes free. The reporter asked him if he felt

903
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: like the whale came back to say thank you. Uh

904
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: as we have to answer more pies everything. Also, you know,

905
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: free Willie. But not Days of Thunder. I don't like that.

906
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm of a certain age. It came out the same year,

907
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: I think, but that's I don't know. The whale may

908
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: have just been like disoriented after nearly drowning. Possibly it's possibility, Yeah,

909
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: it could have just swum in a circle. Um any Anyhow,

910
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: the story is kind of cutting dry. The whale got tangled,

911
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: dude freed at the end, but it kind of got

912
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 1: me wondering a little bit. A lobster pot a hundred

913
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: miles offshore seems like kind of needle in the haystack, right,

914
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: So my question is was this a fluke phil note

915
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: that pun for judgment please on his points. Turns out

916
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: this kind of thing happens all the damn time, and

917
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: not only does it like suck for the whales, but

918
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: it also sucks for the commercial dudes getting their gear

919
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: busted up or dealing with seasonal closures of like good

920
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: fishing ground because there are whales in the area. Like,

921
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: both of those things suck. So researching that a little bit,

922
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: I found out that this is such a problem folks

923
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: are actively searching for ways to get around it or

924
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: help the whales get around it. My research led me

925
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: to an article about some folks at the Woods Whole

926
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: Institute developing ropeless lobster pots, and it just so happens.

927
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: My dear dear friend, Molly Current is an engineer at

928
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: the Woods Whole Institute and works with the whole contacts.

929
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: So I asked her their emails and they never got

930
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: back to me. So the article never mind, it's a

931
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: tool of clubs in your pocket. So than the article

932
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: just kind of details these lobster pots, which are basically, uh,

933
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: lobster pots with ropes that settled to the bottom with

934
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: the trap. Then after an acoustic trigger or a timer

935
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: goes off, the buoy floats up to the top, and

936
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: in that way they can keep the ropes out of

937
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: the water column and away from marine life. Interesting. There

938
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: was also this statistic in the article. Um, according to

939
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: studies by the New England Aquarium and the Center for

940
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: Coastal Studies, three of North Atlantic right whales and about

941
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: fifty of humpbacks between Cape cod and Nova Scotia get

942
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: up in the net or rope at some point. Uh,

943
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: it didn't present it exactly like that, but that's like

944
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: the crux. No I would imagine, and it didn't. I'm

945
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: sure that wasn't a direct quote from the Scientific journal,

946
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: but I got what you're saying anyhow. Um. You know,

947
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: I've thought of of whales getting wrapped up in nets

948
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: and stuff before, but it never really occurred to me

949
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: that they get tangled up in lobster pots like quite

950
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: as much as they do. So that makes the story

951
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: interesting to me for two reasons. One, freeing a whale

952
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: is probably like a very very cool experience, and the

953
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: footage is pretty amazing and too it kind of brought

954
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: to light a problem I didn't really know existed and

955
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: let me sort of also flex a connection to the

956
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: to the woods Hole Institute, like saying it FLEs anything

957
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: at the woods Hole you failed. They're like, no, I

958
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: don't have time for you or off researching things, dude,

959
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: Phil If I if I lose this episode of Fish News,

960
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: blame Molly Current. Oh man, it's it's a cool story.

961
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: Don Actually, I love what you did there with the

962
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: lobster pots because thinking about that, um, you know, for one,

963
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 1: it surprises me that that many whales get tangled in those,

964
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: at least I think it does, because I spend a

965
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: lot of time mahi fishing on them and for them.

966
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about one rope. There's there's basically

967
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: one rope going down now. I guess, um, if they

968
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: tangled one and ran into a bunch of other ones,

969
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: that's a different story. I think that the ropeless lobster

970
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: pots though, super cool idea, And what I what I

971
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: wonder about that is what is the cost? I mean,

972
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: you hear all the time about how commercial fishing doesn't

973
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: pay the bills like it used to. So like, can

974
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: your average um lobster commercial lobster operation afford to switch

975
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: over all that gear to these you know, acoustic tag

976
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: linked lobster pots. Well, Joe uh, I thought the same thing,

977
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: and so I looked into it, and it turns out

978
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: that like that is kind of the big you know critique. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

979
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: I think they said something like with the current model

980
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: is like available, it would cost like a thousand bucks

981
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: or something to equip each lobster pot. And also like

982
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: there was something about setting, like the connection involves is

983
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: like nickel plated wire or something like that. That's like

984
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: kind of like a tedious little process to do. But

985
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: these lobs, these alternate lobster pots that they're suggesting, would

986
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: be much cheaper and thus making them commercially viable. Um.

987
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: The other thing, the other argument was that without you know,

988
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: these whales kind of messing up all the gear and

989
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: you know, dragging for instance, like one gets stuck on

990
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: one lobster pot keep swimming because it's a big whale

991
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: and you know, hooks up a bunch of others. I

992
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: mean like that's like eighty a lobster pot, right, Like

993
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: that's like a significant amount of gear, kind of a

994
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: big yeah. So they kind of justified it that way.

995
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, uh, end up might come to fruition,

996
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: but if it does, I mean I would see it

997
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: being a really really good thing. Well yeah, and and

998
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: like like the good human in me agrees with you,

999
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: but like the jerk and me is like, yeah, but

1000
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: if you if you do that and take away all

1001
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: the lobster pots within, where am I going to catch

1002
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: my ma? He's in the summer, Like I'm the weirdo.

1003
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: That's like yea wind farms more mahi structure, like put

1004
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: stuff out there to hold cool fish, you know what

1005
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: I mean. Was it not on like a recent episode

1006
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: or not a recent episode? We talked about that, not

1007
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: not on B side. We just talked about it. Oh

1008
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: the ma he mean yeah, Episode one was lobster pot

1009
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: mahi fishing, which is the bomb. But you kind of

1010
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: need lobster pots, so you know, And the only other

1011
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: thing I would say, Um, and again I'm not super

1012
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: well versed in this. I might be talking out of school.

1013
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 1: Good on dude for freeing the whale, but I've always

1014
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: been taught or heard and read that like, under no

1015
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 1: circumstances are you ever allowed to muck with a marine

1016
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: mammal living or dead, Like you just can't mess with one. Yeah,

1017
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: but I mean you could make the argument that that

1018
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: like whale had already kind of been like molested a

1019
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: little bit by by folks before you know, true jumped in.

1020
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, well okay, and he did a good deed,

1021
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: So the whale is free and everybody is happy. We'll

1022
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,959
Speaker 1: see how happy Phil is with these two stories today,

1023
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: and then when we're done with that, we're gonna go

1024
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: have a drink in in in Zombie Land Zombie salmon Land.

1025
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: Hayden here is going to lead us solo in a

1026
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,959
Speaker 1: that's my bar and it's a it's a really really

1027
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: good one. Hayden, you're the winner this week. I would

1028
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: also like to extend a big thank you to Matt Caprin.

1029
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: If we learned anything from Star Trek four, that whale

1030
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: that he freed might one day be responsible for preventing

1031
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: an Earth ending alien invasion. In that movie, the crew

1032
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: saved some whales from whalers by spooking them away with

1033
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: their giant futures. Take spaceship, which isn't nearly as cool

1034
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: as it would have been if Leonard Nimoy jumped on

1035
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: deck and went ham on everybody with a filet knife.

1036
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: Best god damn bar tender from tim Buck to to Portland, Maine,

1037
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: Portland argument for that matter, Salmon season in New York.

1038
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: You know I love it. Got the humma generators, the

1039
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: crackling of autumn leaves and beer cans beneath your feet,

1040
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: and the lighthearted pleasantries exchanged by anglers hooked up to

1041
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: the same fish. These are the sounds of October and Plaska.

1042
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: After a long day of dodging egg sinkers, ugly sticks,

1043
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: and suspiciously largest as eggs, or, as we call it,

1044
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: salmon fishing, everyone needs a great place to unwind. Well, friends,

1045
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: look no further than the Altmar Hotel, located right by

1046
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: the lower fly only zone of the world famous snagging

1047
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: sorry that's Salmon River. The Altmar Hotel is the perfect

1048
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: place to debate which color sponge those mud sharks are

1049
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: craving and pick up a dry rub recipe so good

1050
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: your friends will swear that zombie fish it wasn't mostly

1051
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: dead by the time you caught it. At Almar Hotel,

1052
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: they can buy in friendly service and staff with the

1053
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: ever present feeling that a full on brawl might break out.

1054
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: And that's true, the bartender is gonna call you honey,

1055
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 1: while on more than one occasion, I've been pretty sure

1056
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: fish weren't the only things about to find themselves bludgeoned

1057
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: in the parking lot. Anyhow, you sit down for a

1058
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: coal one at the bar and you might notice a

1059
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: sign that says, lou be nicer, get out now, lose

1060
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: a friend of mine, and if you're lucky enough, we're

1061
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: unlucky enough to run into him. You shouldn't know that

1062
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: that sign is only half joking. He's grumpy as hell

1063
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: and he's convinced you suck at fishing. If you're feeling brave,

1064
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: you can go ahead and buy him a shout at

1065
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: tequila and he'll be glad to tell you exactly why

1066
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: that is. But be warned, he really isn't very nice,

1067
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: and he's normally kind of right. Jokes aside. I do

1068
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: actually love this bar. It's got pool tables, cold beer,

1069
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: that flickering neon vibe, and some surpri easily good live music.

1070
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: You know what's not to love from biker's riding, Harley's

1071
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: two Anglers, fishing, boutique hardies. The Altmar Hotel has something

1072
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: for everyone, including a karaoke night, meatloaf, Monday's Fish Fridays,

1073
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: and the Thursday Wing Night so reasonably priced you'd swear

1074
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: they were ron if only they weren't so damn good.

1075
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: That's a pretty much everything on the menu is great,

1076
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: and I particularly like their chicken parm which weighs more

1077
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: than the sword covered asenat co Hoo. Your buddy dragged

1078
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: in today and could feed his whole family in a

1079
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: way less disgusting way. So if you're on the hunt

1080
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: for that greasy brown meal, your soul craves after a

1081
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: long day on the water, or just want to snag

1082
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: a few beers while you try to convince yourself all

1083
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: those fish definitely got line wrapped and weren't just hooked

1084
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: in the South Mouth to begin with, Grab your buddies

1085
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: and head on over to the Altmar Hotel. Just remember

1086
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: ditch your studded waiting boots at the door, and don't

1087
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: you dare ask Glue if you validate sparking, if you've

1088
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: got to dive with this much character more shady characters,

1089
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: we want to hear about it. Send an email to

1090
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: Ben at the meat Eater dot com and rep your

1091
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: favorite fishing bar. Now, what do you think the odds

1092
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: are that Lu does costume parties? Do they have a

1093
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: Halloween party at the Altmar? Would? Would you know? What

1094
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: would Lou be? I would assume that they had a

1095
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: Halloween party at Altmar Hotel. Um. I do not think

1096
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: that Lu does costume parties. However, if he should so

1097
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: happen to do a Halloween costume party, I want to

1098
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: say he'd go as a pirate. Like he looks like

1099
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: an old Priarty's kind of like long hair and like

1100
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: a beard and also you know, like peg like well,

1101
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: he also seems like the guy at the bar who

1102
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: would be pirate, but just dressing his normal attire and

1103
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: just do the the eye patch in the pirate mat.

1104
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: It's like, there you go, I'm dressed all right, it's

1105
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: just another day of drinking. Sorry, it's Halloween. Oh man. Well,

1106
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: we may never know what Lou would be, but I

1107
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: did ask our resident Lou are lieu of the striper scene,

1108
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: that being Bob the garbage Man Britona, not a Newski,

1109
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you all, I expected no reply

1110
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: about Halloween costumes from him. I got this Bob the

1111
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: garbage Man Brittona not a Newski, and one time I

1112
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: dressed up as an Atlantic City police officer. Not long after,

1113
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: I dressed up as an inmate at the Bayside State

1114
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: Prison for a little while. But neither one of those

1115
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: costumes had anything to do with Halloween per se. Thank you, Bob.

1116
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: That is at once deeply concerning and totally unsurprising. I've

1117
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: said I don't really know. I don't have any idea

1118
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: what goes on in Bob's personal life, Like usually we're

1119
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: just talking fish stuff. Um, yeah, that was Yeah. I

1120
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: don't want to know. I don't want to know anything

1121
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: about either of those costumes. What I do know for

1122
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: a fact is that he would hate this week's end

1123
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 1: the Line segment because it deals with a striper bait

1124
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: that is not bunker and I chose it to close

1125
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: out on our theme this week. So I was trying

1126
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: to come up with a Halloween related bad or lord

1127
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: when I realized that this one allowed me to reference

1128
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: one of my favorite Kevin Bacon films I knew I

1129
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: had arrived. Well, that's not allowed enough, Burt. Sandworms have

1130
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: wiggled their way into pop culture via the sci fi

1131
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: horror genre. Three times. You had the Shy Hallud, a

1132
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: massive sand worm that played a big role in Four

1133
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: is Dune, which you probably never saw because it's three

1134
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: hours long and in my opinion, it's it's just boring

1135
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: as ship. The best thing to come out of it

1136
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: was the band Shy Hallud, which took its name from

1137
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: that monster Dune worm, and it is a pretty damn

1138
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: good hardcore metal band. After dooone, we didn't see a

1139
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: killer sand worm on the big screen again until eight

1140
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: and Tim Burton's Beetlejuice. You might recall that if the

1141
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: ghosts stepped out of the door of their former home,

1142
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: they'd find themselves whisked away to Saturn, where that huge

1143
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: black and white striped sand warm with two heads and

1144
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: a shark fin wood gobble them up. Whoa sandworms? You

1145
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: hate them right? I hate him myself. But it wasn't

1146
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: until director Ron Underwood truly cemented the fear of burrowing

1147
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: worms with nasty mouthparts into the minds of the masses

1148
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: with Tremors and its famous grab voids. I lie awake

1149
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: at night often wondering how Tremors was beaten out for

1150
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: Best Picture by Driving Miss Daisy and the Oscars that year,

1151
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: because I mean, Jessica Tandy is a badass and all,

1152
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: but Hoke and Daisy didn't have nothing on Valentine McKee

1153
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: and earl Bass played by Kevin Bacon and the underappreciated

1154
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: Fred Ward add in crazy Burt with all his guns,

1155
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: and you've got a timeless classic broke into the wrong

1156
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: goddamn reck room. Didn't you know, your bastard? Anyway, The

1157
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: thing is as spooky and terrifying as the Hollywood versions

1158
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: of sand worms. Maybe it's freak here when you understand

1159
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: that they're all based around real sandworms, and while their

1160
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: traits have been exaggerated to scare you, they do mirror

1161
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: natural features and tendencies of these slimy little worms. Many

1162
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: species of sandworms exist on our planet. They can be

1163
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: found in warm and cold climates and go by several

1164
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: different names, including beach worms in Australia, though the name

1165
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: used most often by science to classify them is actually

1166
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: lug worms. Depending on the age and species, sandworms can

1167
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: range in land from a few inches to a few feet.

1168
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: In Alaska there are sandworms is stick around as a rattlesnake,

1169
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: while other varieties are just ribbon thin. What they all

1170
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: have in common is what are technically called parapodium but

1171
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: look like tiny legs or little feathers running down each

1172
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: side of their body, and these, of course help them

1173
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: burrow and move around under the sand. Sandworms can range

1174
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: in color from pink to red, black to green, and

1175
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: brown to orange, but regardless of the shade, they are

1176
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: all just disgustingly hideously ugly, and unlike nightcrawlers, they have

1177
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: a very distinct head and tail. That head also has

1178
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: a mouth from which it launches too retractable, very sharp, hard,

1179
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: and pointy pinchers. That's how these omnivorous worms grab everything

1180
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: from small invertebrates or bits of seaweed to other worms.

1181
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: And if you've ever used them for bait, you know

1182
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: they will make every effort to sink those pinchers into

1183
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: your skin while you're trying to put them on a hook.

1184
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: Sandworms have always both creeped me out and skewed me out.

1185
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: Which is kind of the same thing, but regardless, they've

1186
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: been a top producing bait from myriad inshore species since,

1187
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: like the dawn and time, they have a unique smell

1188
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: that fish can't seem to resist, and since these worms

1189
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: are usually buried pretty deep, finding one out the open

1190
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: is a rare treat for a fish. In Australia, there's

1191
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: still a top bait for sea breen. On the west

1192
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: coast of the US there are a top producers species

1193
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: like surf perch out here on the East coast. Fluke

1194
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: flounder and white perch can't gobble them up fast and off,

1195
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: but they were always best known here as a striper bait,

1196
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: particularly in the early spring when the resident bass go

1197
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: on the feed over warm mud flats. Why then, if

1198
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: this bait is so good and so popular, do you

1199
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: not see it used as frequently as you once did

1200
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: or talked about as often. The simple answer there is cost.

1201
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: It's been years since I've purchased sandworms in a local

1202
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: tackle shop, but I looked online and found a dealer

1203
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: that chips direct. The current rate for a dozen sandworms

1204
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: in the year is thirty dollars. Their tutorials on YouTube

1205
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: for harvesting your own sandworms, but I wouldn't call it

1206
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: quicker easy. First, you have to identify their holes by

1207
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: looking for the tiny pile of sandy spaghetti that the

1208
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: worm discards behind it as it burrows. You have to

1209
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: extract them carefully so they don't break. It's tedious, and

1210
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: most of the sandworms that end up in tackle shops

1211
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: and gas stations along the Eastern Seaboard come from just

1212
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 1: a handful of commercial harvesters in Maine. Now. They can

1213
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: only harvest at low tide, and they can only do

1214
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: it by hand. There's no machinery involved. Factor in that

1215
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: the next generation isn't really overly interested in learning that trade,

1216
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: and you've got a severe labor shortage in a niche

1217
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: business that has a hell of a time keeping up

1218
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: with supply and demand. When Berkeley Gulp first introduced its

1219
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: line of saltwater baits many years ago, one of the

1220
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: things they unveiled was their sandworm. It was one of

1221
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: the first true soft plastic baits, designed not to be

1222
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: worked and manipulated on a jighead or wacky rig or

1223
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: Texas rig, but rather dead sticked like a real sandworm.

1224
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: They cost a fraction of the price of the real worms,

1225
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: and I can tell you what they stayed on the

1226
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: hook a hell of a lot longer, but all these

1227
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 1: years later, if you walk out on any of the

1228
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 1: beaches frequented by those looking for that first striper in March,

1229
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: or maybe a pile of white perch in the colder months,

1230
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: rest assured it's the guys that ponied up the thirty

1231
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: bucks that have a few pricks in their finger years

1232
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: from those nasty grab boids that are out fishing everyone else.

1233
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: So that's it for this week. But before we sign off,

1234
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: how about one last costume from our amigo and uh

1235
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 1: dost boat star Captain Frank Cressitelli from Staten Island. I mean,

1236
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: if you think about it right, all Halloween really is

1237
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 1: is the kickoff to a barrage of holidays like coming

1238
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: at your face that you you have to deal with

1239
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: and cannot avoid. So I think this is fitting. This

1240
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 1: is Captain Frank Cressitelli. And what are the crazy outfits

1241
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: I've worn on Halloween while fishing? Was a full Santa outfit.

1242
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: I usually break it out on Halloween, but then it

1243
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:54,759
Speaker 1: makes a reappearance just around that magical time. Classic isn't it,

1244
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: isn't it? Yeah, I've actually seen a couple of people

1245
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 1: fishing in like drift boats and off or you know,

1246
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: during steelhead season around Christmas. I'm not sure I've ever

1247
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: seen it for Halloween. It seems like you kind of

1248
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: just wait a couple of months and get your Santa

1249
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: fix then uh well, yeah that's fair. But I also

1250
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: I would bet that like a guy like frank just

1251
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: has a Santa costume he paid a decent amount of

1252
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: money for, so like he ain't going out to buy

1253
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: like a Frankenstein student Halloween. He's just like, I'll do

1254
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: Santa twice. It's like a matter of like, it's it's

1255
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: it's efficiency. It's efficiency. Anyway, I hope, I hope you

1256
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: guys enjoyed our nod to Halloween. Don't forget if I

1257
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: end up murdering my home. It was the Missouri Trout

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Speaker 1: Jigs guy driving Miss Daisy wasn't as good as tremors.

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Speaker 1: Brian Wise is a very convincing woman. And Hayden would

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Speaker 1: love for you to invite him over for meat loaf Monday.

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Speaker 1: Never turned down some meat loaf man. Let's on the radio, Joe,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say I had a I had a blast

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Speaker 1: doing the whole show with you this week. This was fun, dude. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure. I've said it before, it I'll say it again.

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Speaker 1: Ben is probably my favorite show on the entire Meat

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Speaker 1: Eater net work, and after they fire me, it'll probably

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Speaker 1: be the only one I keep listening to. Nice. That's

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Speaker 1: that's good. But while I'm still here, uh friendly reminder

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Speaker 1: to keep those sale bin items, bar nominations, awkward photos,

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Speaker 1: and all that good stuff coming to Bent at the

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Speaker 1: Meat Eater dot com. Yes, sir, I also keep using

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Speaker 1: those Degenerate Angler and Bent podcast hashtags on Instagram. It's

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Speaker 1: the quickest way to get stickers from us. And finally,

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Speaker 1: after trick or treating with the kids this Sunday, do

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Speaker 1: the responsible thing and check all the reces and rollers

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Speaker 1: from betted Sandworms. There's a lot of sickos out there.

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Speaker 1: Mans never ever, ever at step at ast