WEBVTT - Buck Brief - Has Elon Bigly Betrayed Trump?

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you get your podcasts. The Elon Trump romance is over,

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<v Speaker 1>and as we get more and more from both sides

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<v Speaker 1>on this one starting to get a little heated at

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<v Speaker 1>little nasty. Some people are saying, a little nasty, little ugly,

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<v Speaker 1>what is going on here? The most powerful man in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, the richest man in the world. They were

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<v Speaker 1>totally united on the agenda and it lasted less than

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<v Speaker 1>six months before things have gotten a little nasty. Our

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<v Speaker 1>friend Katie Zachariah is with us now. She's a political

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<v Speaker 1>strategist out of California. Of course she's with the good guys.

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<v Speaker 1>She's GOP Katie, let's just start with this. Are how

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<v Speaker 1>surprised should we be that this is where, this is

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<v Speaker 1>where this has.

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<v Speaker 2>Gone well with as pertains to President Trump and Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 2>What I go back to is the fact that Elon

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<v Speaker 2>took a poll on x I'm sure everyone remembers this

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<v Speaker 2>as to whether or not we should bring back President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump because he had been deplatformed right in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>by Jack Dorsey, and so instead.

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<v Speaker 3>Of making the decision on his own.

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<v Speaker 2>He takes this poll and then he brings President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>back onto X or allows him to come back on.

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<v Speaker 2>Then after the first assassination attempt, Elon Musk voices his

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<v Speaker 2>support for President Trump and for all of us. For me,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a big fan of President Trump before twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>So for all of us that have been in the

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<v Speaker 2>trenches with him through his first term through twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>and then in the term of the you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>four years where he wasn't president. Elon's support was great,

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<v Speaker 2>and it came a little bit late in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I called him a Johnny cum Lately or Johnny cum

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<v Speaker 2>late as they like to say. So the rift, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know how long it would take. But everybody serves

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<v Speaker 2>at the pleasure of the president. You serve at the

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<v Speaker 2>pleasure of the president. And he was there to serve

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<v Speaker 2>President Donald J. Trump without his own agenda. And so

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<v Speaker 2>if this rift is happening now because he had his

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<v Speaker 2>own agenda, well better now than later.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, what do you think his agenda was? Though,

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<v Speaker 1>because it seemed like he was saying all the right

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<v Speaker 1>things when he came on board. He bought X which

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<v Speaker 1>was super helpful for just getting just free speech out

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<v Speaker 1>there more online. I mean, I'm a big believer, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was really just it was useful, not just for

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<v Speaker 1>the election. I think it was useful for American discourse.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave hundreds of millions of dollars to Trump. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think we'll get? Okay, let's just get into

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<v Speaker 1>some of this what's being said? Okay, Elon. Elon tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>this out on or you know, posted this on X

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<v Speaker 1>time to drop the really big bomb real Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald J. Trump. I couldn't believe that was real. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe that was real when I read it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's real, it's real.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, whether it's defamation, slander, er, you could go down

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<v Speaker 2>the list that is. It's so terrible that after the

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<v Speaker 2>work that they've done together that he would come out

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<v Speaker 2>and write something like that. It's disturbing and it's wholly inaccurate.

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<v Speaker 2>And I find it to be detestable that Elon in

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<v Speaker 2>their division would stoop so low as to take that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of blow.

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<v Speaker 3>At our sitting President Donald J.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump, who took a bullet for us, who you know,

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<v Speaker 2>avoided another assassination attempt and went up against an entire

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<v Speaker 2>weaponized judicial system for US, And now Elon's coming out

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<v Speaker 2>from his high horse making these kind of accusations.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's it's really gross.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say, I mean, as a guy, there

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<v Speaker 1>there are I mean, you're not a guy, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a guy. And I'll just say from the male, from

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<v Speaker 1>the male perspective, speaking from the male perspective. Although you're

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<v Speaker 1>in California, so I am making assumptions Katie, just based

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<v Speaker 1>on your appearance that you know, definitely I'm assuming, lady.

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<v Speaker 1>I know California people could do crazy things and they

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<v Speaker 1>can win state championships and you know, they're like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a girl and you're like, no, you're not. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm on safe ground with you. So

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<v Speaker 1>but as a guy, there are things that you can

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<v Speaker 1>say to you know, I've had I have friends and

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've like, you know, cursed at each other. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>my brothers and I I would say, have curt you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I try not to do that now that I'm older

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<v Speaker 1>and wiser. But when I was younger, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had friends where we've actually laid hands on each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you've actually you know, gotten to shoving or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>He got an argument and like you, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>squash it, you know, figure it out whatever later you

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<v Speaker 1>call a guy, uh basically or you insinuate in any

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<v Speaker 1>way that a guy is like a pedophile or some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a sex deviant. That's I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you come back from that in there in that relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you know, I think that that crosses

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<v Speaker 1>a line. And I I'm actually surprised that Elon would

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<v Speaker 1>go there that I am surprised by.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's it's unfortunately the term applies is very much

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<v Speaker 2>below the belt. It's somewhere that you don't go to

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<v Speaker 2>friendship and otherwise. And to be clear, I am a female.

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<v Speaker 2>I've birthed four children, and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have signed properly at birth female and you accept your female.

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<v Speaker 4>Designation, and I identify as a female out here in California.

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<v Speaker 4>But yes, no, it's one of those moments where those

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<v Speaker 4>are that's a line you don't cross if you want

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<v Speaker 4>to go into any kind of metaphysical that's like the

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<v Speaker 4>event horizon.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you've crossed over into the black hole.

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<v Speaker 2>Since Elon is the space guy, you just don't come back.

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<v Speaker 2>You're absolutely right, and it's offensive personally to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's offensive as a supporter of Donald J.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump, who has, as I said, put his life on

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<v Speaker 2>the line in every way possible so that my republic,

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<v Speaker 2>our republic, could be preserved for the next generation. He

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<v Speaker 2>literally in the pathway against a Marxist totalitarian takeover that

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<v Speaker 2>was certainly happening beneath Elon's nose under.

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<v Speaker 3>The four years of Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't see him come out at Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 2>the way he's come out at President Trump online in

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<v Speaker 2>the last what twenty four hours. I never saw the

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<v Speaker 2>vitriol coming from Elon to Joe or Kamala or anyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>So this to me looks very much turncoat. That could

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<v Speaker 2>we have trusted Elon from the beginning. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>heavily invested in China. A lot of people were questioning

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<v Speaker 2>his allegiance to begin with, so a lot of President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's longtime supporters, Steve Bannon, was very outspoken against Elon

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<v Speaker 2>Musk and I think took a lot of heat for it,

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<v Speaker 2>but there were things to question, like his gigafactory in

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<v Speaker 2>Shanghai and China, like where is his allegiance completely?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look, I am I am rarely. I knew that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and Elon would part ways and that was open.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was always going to happen, right because the

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<v Speaker 1>special government employee. I thought there would be a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of friction before they did, or I would say

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that there would be I didn't think it

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<v Speaker 1>would be like this and for it to be overspending bill.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if Trump had just ordered a nuclear strike

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, some defenseless country, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>would understand a little more Elon's outrage. I still wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say what Elon had said, but I would understand him

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<v Speaker 1>being so upset. But he did the work of Doge.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just up to Trump. There's Congress, there's politics,

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot going on here, and to attack Trump

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<v Speaker 1>in this personal way, I'm surprised that Elon. I will

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<v Speaker 1>say that, I am actually surprised that Elon. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know him, never met him, but I followed his career

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<v Speaker 1>pretty closely, and I would have expected more a more

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<v Speaker 1>judicious parting from him.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think Elon underestimates how beloved President Trump is.

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<v Speaker 2>That he's not just the president of the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>that people who support him and people who have come

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<v Speaker 2>to support him and would attend his rallies at what

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five thousand people at these rallies in the dead

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<v Speaker 2>heat of summer, and like Nevada, they genuinely love President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>So for his supporters this feels personal. This is personal

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<v Speaker 2>towards President Trump, but it's also personal to the millions

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<v Speaker 2>of people that elected President Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>What he's doing right now, what President Trump is doing

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<v Speaker 2>with this bill and what the House is doing, is

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<v Speaker 2>delivering on the promises that he made. I will build

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<v Speaker 2>and finish the border wall. I will deport illegal immigrants

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<v Speaker 2>that are violent criminals. I will restore our strategic petroleum.

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<v Speaker 3>Reserves that have been lost.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, these are things that Biden drained, that Biden didn't do,

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<v Speaker 2>and that President Trump is having to come back and

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<v Speaker 2>fund through this House bill. So for Elon be so critical,

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<v Speaker 2>like over the last four years, for instance, our strategic

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<v Speaker 2>patrol au reserves are at an all time low. That

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<v Speaker 2>is a very very serious national security risk for the

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<v Speaker 2>United States and guess what. It takes money to refill

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<v Speaker 2>this and so if people dig into this bill, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to repair a lot of the damage,

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<v Speaker 2>not bring us to whole, but prepare a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the damage of the Biden administration. And Elon should be

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<v Speaker 2>supporting this, and I don't see him saying, well, why

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<v Speaker 2>don't we come up with the solution where I pay

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<v Speaker 2>for the border wall so the American people don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really gross. Let's take a moment here just for

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsor. We'll talk more about the big beautiful bill

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<v Speaker 1>want to be prepared. The debt is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be taken taken down by this bill, and there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be inflation and there's going to be challenges ahead financially.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, kitty, you're following this big beautiful bill pretty closely.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the sense that you think this absolutely should

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<v Speaker 1>go through. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I think it's going to go to the Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>There can be some tweaks and adjustments, and then.

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<v Speaker 3>It should pass.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a bill that delivers on President Trump's tax

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<v Speaker 2>cuts and makes them permanent.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It raises Americans take home pay as much as thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>to fourteen thousand dollars. He's delivering on exactly what he

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<v Speaker 2>campaigned on, finishing in the wall, refilling the strategic petroleum reserves.

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<v Speaker 2>The list goes on and on and for us, this

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<v Speaker 2>takes money. But he's also delivering tax cuts. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>just saying we're going to spend all this money. We're

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<v Speaker 2>also going to deliver tax cuts to the middle class.

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<v Speaker 2>A contrary to what all the mainstream media is saying

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<v Speaker 2>is he's giving big breaks to his oligarch friends. As

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<v Speaker 2>you know, NBC likes to say, this is really going

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<v Speaker 2>to benefit the middle class. And we saw today with

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<v Speaker 2>the tariffs. Wow, the tariffs are actually working and helping

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<v Speaker 2>our economy. The Democrats had to come out and say this.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the two working in hand in hand

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be very beneficial for the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Something else that I'm wondering about, I just want to ask,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know you're California based, You're one of those

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<v Speaker 1>behind enemy lines conservatives in California. This stuff with Gavin

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<v Speaker 1>Newsom refusing to basically refusing to enforce Title nine or

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<v Speaker 1>go against Title nine. They had this track and Field

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<v Speaker 1>championship with a guy ab Hernandez saying that he's a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>And now, what do you think the numbers are? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you've probably seen the polling. Do most Californians actually support

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<v Speaker 1>that madness? I know nationwide it's an eighty twenty issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty eighty percent think that's insane. Twenty percent are either

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<v Speaker 1>okay with it or think it's really important that we

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<v Speaker 1>have trans competitors. But in California do they not see

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<v Speaker 1>that this is nuts? A majority of Californians, including all

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<v Speaker 1>those Democrats. What do you think California?

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<v Speaker 2>I know it will come to surprise so many listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do, in my experience, see that California is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty on track with the rest of the nation on

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<v Speaker 2>this issue. And in general, I think our vote situation

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<v Speaker 2>without voter ID and these week long voting opportunities has

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<v Speaker 2>thwarted the will of Californians. But it is an eighty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty issue in California. And Aby Hernandez was competing in

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<v Speaker 2>the male sport twenty three and twenty twenty four, and

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<v Speaker 2>then competed in the girls version this year and then

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<v Speaker 2>got a championship first place medal and had a deviation

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<v Speaker 2>similar to that of what male Olympic athletes to female

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<v Speaker 2>and Olympic athletes had right, which is always the male

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<v Speaker 2>is generally going to be outperforming the female, even in

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<v Speaker 2>that high.

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<v Speaker 3>Triple jump category. So this is actually really sad to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Gavin Newsom had voiced, oh, this is it's deeply unfair

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<v Speaker 2>for girls to have to compete against biological males in

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<v Speaker 2>their sports. But then, in typical Gavin Newsomb fashion, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do anything about it and gave it a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>time and got, you know, got the quotes out there

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<v Speaker 2>that he wanted so he could run for potential president

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty eight. But President Trump did the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He has threatened to withhold federal funding. We are a

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<v Speaker 2>bankrupt state right now, and his withholding a federal funding

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<v Speaker 2>I hope brings Gavin Newsom to at least understand and

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<v Speaker 2>act in this sport or in for females in general

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<v Speaker 2>in California, because it is deeply unfair and girls should

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<v Speaker 2>not be sharing a first place podium with a biological male.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it is just inherently unfair.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Zachariah, appreciate you being with us as always. We'll

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