WEBVTT - Puerto Crypto

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<v Speaker 1>This is Latino USA, the radio journal of News and

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<v Speaker 2>Studio United Latino Front.

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<v Speaker 1>A cultural renaissance organizing at the forefront of the movement.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Maria Ino Jossa O la Latino USA. Listener, Here's

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<v Speaker 1>an episode from our archives. What You probably recognize this tune,

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<v Speaker 1>but the lyrics are pretty different from Bob Marley's Stir

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<v Speaker 1>It Up. What The participants in this late night jam

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<v Speaker 1>session sitting poolside. There's about twenty of them, swaying and

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<v Speaker 1>holding hands. It's spring of twenty eighteen here in drincon

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<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rico, a town revered for its surf spots and beaches.

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<v Speaker 1>But this mostly non Puerto Rican crowd is here to

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<v Speaker 1>do more than just blow off some steam. There is

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<v Speaker 1>this one guy in the group who's grinning and swaying

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<v Speaker 1>to the music.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't miss him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got on a wide brim black hat like zorro.

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<v Speaker 1>It's accented with playing cards and feathers. His name is

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<v Speaker 1>Brock Pierce, and he's sort of the main reason that

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<v Speaker 1>these people are all here. He's very rich, though it's

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to know just how rich. He's the leader of

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<v Speaker 1>a movement, a movement that he says will change everything

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<v Speaker 1>from Futuramidia and PRX. It's Latino Usa. I'm Maria Jojosa

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<v Speaker 1>today the bitcoin pirates in the Caribbean. That sing along

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<v Speaker 1>that you just heard is from the spring of twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a few months after Hurricane Maria. Much of

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<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rico is still devastated, and these people are here,

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<v Speaker 1>they say, to rebuild. That's why they were singing build

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<v Speaker 1>it up. At that time, the group was calling themselves

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<v Speaker 1>the Portopians. Many of them are newly rich off of bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>the digital currency. Some have even moved to Puerto Rico

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<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of its favorable tax laws. The man

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<v Speaker 1>in the zoro hat brought peers. He would say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not about the taxes. He's declared to the world that

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to help turn this island into a high

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<v Speaker 1>tech cryptocurrency paradise. Reporters working Cobbler and Michael O'Brien have

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<v Speaker 1>been following this story. We begin in March of twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bucking and Michael have descended into the heart of Cryptomania.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to take it from here, and a warning,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some curse words in this episode, which we've bleeped.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year, right before tax season, a few hundred Silicon

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<v Speaker 3>Valley types touched down in Puerto Rico.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually to these castaways. It's Puerto Crypto. Two weeks of

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<v Speaker 4>bitcoin themed events and we're here at the finale Coin

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<v Speaker 4>Agenda Caribbean.

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<v Speaker 3>At least five hundred cryptocurrency enthusiasts have colonized multiple floors

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<v Speaker 3>of the lavish beachfront hotel in San Juan. The bars

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<v Speaker 3>are buzzing, the Panama Jackats are in season, and look out, Puerto.

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<v Speaker 2>Rico, the disruptors are in town. And yeah, we're shaking

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<v Speaker 2>things about.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Lauren, one of the people we met Millie

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<v Speaker 4>around the conference. The first thing to know about crypto people.

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<v Speaker 4>For them, bitcoin isn't just about money. It's a revolutionary

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<v Speaker 4>new technology disrupting life as we know it, but in

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<v Speaker 4>a good way.

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<v Speaker 3>Disrupt is one of the buzzwords you'll hear a lot

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<v Speaker 3>at a bitcoin conference. Another one is decentralized. The best

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<v Speaker 3>focus for me is to decentralize everything, like no mercy.

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<v Speaker 4>The economy since World War Two has been decentralizing.

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<v Speaker 5>Decentralized opps, small contrives, the new decentralized.

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<v Speaker 3>Internet, and at the center of this centreless world cryptocurrency.

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<v Speaker 4>We all have that weird cousin who is really into crypto.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're not going to get too much into it.

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<v Speaker 6>All.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to remember the basics.

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<v Speaker 4>Cryptocurrencies are kind of like virtual money that's online in theory.

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<v Speaker 4>They can be traded for goods or services like real currencies.

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<v Speaker 4>The first one was bitcoin. Unlike normal currencies, crypto isn't

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<v Speaker 4>regulated by any government or central bank. It was designed

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<v Speaker 4>to be untraceable. At first, it was used largely for

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<v Speaker 4>buying and selling things in the dark web, mostly drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>The lack of regulations has made crypto a favorite among

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<v Speaker 4>a certain techy libertarian crowd, which accounts for a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of what you'll be hearing today.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, my name is America and I'm Penalvi and we

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<v Speaker 1>are the cyberquot Twins.

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<v Speaker 3>The cyber code twins are superstar coders from California. Like

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<v Speaker 3>others here, they believe the cryptocurrency is the future and

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<v Speaker 3>they don't think that the old rules regulating the economy

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<v Speaker 3>should apply to them.

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<v Speaker 1>The main one is not taking the right approach to

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<v Speaker 1>just taring off the innovative.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the crypto people are here in Puerto Rico

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<v Speaker 3>looking for a way around regulations. And that's because while

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<v Speaker 3>it's technically part of the United States, it's weird. Colonial

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<v Speaker 3>status makes for lots of loopholes in gray areas, and

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<v Speaker 3>the Portopians say that while they're here, they'll invest and

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<v Speaker 3>help grow a local tech economy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is actually good for Puerto Rico. Cryptocurrency and black

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<v Speaker 1>community are not moving from the Caribbean like they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>The pro business Puerto Rican government here in twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>sees this as an opportunity and has been trying to

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<v Speaker 3>lure crypto based businesses to the island. And here's the

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<v Speaker 3>other reason that the crypto enthusiasts want to come to

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<v Speaker 3>Puerto Rico. Anyone who moves to the island doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>to pay capital gains or federal income taxes.

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<v Speaker 4>Just five years before this conference. In March of twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 4>you could buy bitcoin for about forty bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>But at its.

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<v Speaker 4>Highest peak, just three months before the coin agenda, bitcoin

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<v Speaker 4>nearly hit twenty thousand dollars. That's a fifty thousand percent

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<v Speaker 4>increase fifty thousand. If you played it right, if you

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<v Speaker 4>had just fifty bitcoins to your name, you'd have been

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<v Speaker 4>a millionaire.

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<v Speaker 3>But the crypto people haven't cast themselves as their average

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<v Speaker 3>tax avoiding millionaires. Their pitch to Puerto Rico is that

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<v Speaker 3>they're here to show the world what crypto can do

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<v Speaker 3>for any economy and do it in a socially conscious way.

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<v Speaker 2>And that got the ear of some local entrepreneurs.

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<v Speaker 7>Right now, I was going to move out of Puerto

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<v Speaker 7>Rico because I really think that politics is startable bought.

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<v Speaker 7>Since all of these investors are moving in and all

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<v Speaker 7>these developers are moving in, I see an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 7>actually make this sounds ironic, make Puerto Rico right. So

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<v Speaker 7>I need to rephrase that.

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<v Speaker 2>Enter Armando Gonzalez.

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<v Speaker 7>People know me here as AIA because a JA is

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<v Speaker 7>simpler for most people.

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<v Speaker 3>When we first met AJ, we knew we'd be spending

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of time with him. He struck us as

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who was savvy about the whole crypto scene, a

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<v Speaker 3>charismatic guy with a toothy grin who fit right in

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<v Speaker 3>with the las a fair crypto atmosphere. And he's a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a hustler.

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<v Speaker 7>We have chapters all major universities in Puerto Rico, and

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<v Speaker 7>hopefully we're going to have chapters in the nation and

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<v Speaker 7>hopefully eventually the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Ready to sell you something in this case his startup,

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<v Speaker 3>but hey, that's like what everyone here is doing, ages

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<v Speaker 3>in his late twenties. He grew up in San Juan,

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<v Speaker 3>Puerto Rico, a middle class kid, raised largely by his grandfather,

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<v Speaker 3>and it took him some time to figure out what

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<v Speaker 3>he wanted to do with the life. In college, he

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<v Speaker 3>was all over the place, studying mechanical engineering, switched to chemistry,

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<v Speaker 3>then in a panic psychology like this.

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<v Speaker 7>Whole existential crisis and analyzing what like why will my

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<v Speaker 7>mother love me?

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<v Speaker 3>It's in biological Then he switches to economics after hearing

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<v Speaker 3>about bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it was like the future.

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<v Speaker 4>AJ thinks about it like this, Puerto Rico's in a

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<v Speaker 4>financial crisis, and here's this new technology that can bring

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<v Speaker 4>investment to the island and he can be a part

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<v Speaker 4>of it and cash in at the same time. He

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<v Speaker 4>creates a nonprofit startup called Edge of block with the

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<v Speaker 4>goal of going into high schools and universities to teach

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<v Speaker 4>about blockchain. Blockchain, by the way, is the technology behind cryptocurrencies.

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<v Speaker 4>It's extremely hard to explain, so for our purposes, don't

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<v Speaker 4>worry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's basically interchangeable with crypto.

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<v Speaker 3>When we meet AJ, he's wearing a fisherman's cap that

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<v Speaker 3>says hodl hotally.

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<v Speaker 8>That is awesome, hollow man.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an intentional misspelling of the word hold. It's nerd

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<v Speaker 3>slang for hold on to your cryptocurrency rather than selling it.

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<v Speaker 3>And in early twenty eighteen, if you're hotling, you're in

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<v Speaker 3>good shape.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>I actually don't hollow, but this seems like a nice

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<v Speaker 7>thing to have too. A conversation started.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't hotal as in, AJ didn't snatch up a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of bitcoin and it was dirt cheap. So today

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<v Speaker 3>he's a coin agenda trying to network and raise some

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<v Speaker 3>money for his startup.

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<v Speaker 4>And so are about forty other crypto startups who are

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<v Speaker 4>all pitching to potential investors in this main conference room.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, so, without further ado, we have from run

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<v Speaker 6>to play put your hands together for Joseph.

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<v Speaker 4>One by one we watch these men, and it's mostly

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<v Speaker 4>men climb up on stage. These guys paid thousands of

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<v Speaker 4>dollars real dollars, not crypto, for the chance to pitch.

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<v Speaker 4>Joseph himself paid more than fifteen thousand dollars to be here.

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<v Speaker 8>Child littlebcity is a massive issue, and one in five

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<v Speaker 8>kids is obese. This is unacceptable and the fact that

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<v Speaker 8>it's real is disgusting.

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<v Speaker 4>He's pitching a fitness app that will reward people in

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<v Speaker 4>crypto for working out. The app, he says, will also

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<v Speaker 4>help end world hunger.

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<v Speaker 8>So someday you'll be literally running to feed someone else.

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<v Speaker 8>How far will you run to feed the world than you?

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<v Speaker 8>Does anybody have any questions? I know, I just kind

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<v Speaker 8>of paced in front of you and talked.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, you guys, But Joseph and the like are

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<v Speaker 3>not the main attraction here at the conference. The person

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<v Speaker 3>that AJ and others came here to see is Brock Pierce.

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<v Speaker 3>So who is Brock Pierce?

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<v Speaker 9>Obviously describing this Rock Pierce who is now a billionaire,

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<v Speaker 9>who's billionarep he wants to make Puerto Rico the center

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<v Speaker 9>of the Earth.

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<v Speaker 4>You heard about him earlier at the singalongs. The guy

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<v Speaker 4>in the Zoro had.

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<v Speaker 2>Midcoin Foundation chair.

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<v Speaker 10>Brock Pierce, the child star who grew up for now

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<v Speaker 10>some Puerto Rico that.

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<v Speaker 5>Sleepee creepy cowboy from the future is named brock Pius.

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<v Speaker 5>He began his career appearing in The Mighty Dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>Rock started his career as a child star in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 5>Then got involved with some very unsayfigures.

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<v Speaker 4>When he was seventeen, he helped run an online media

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<v Speaker 4>company that got into some really sketchy territory.

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<v Speaker 5>Just google brock Pius scandal is all I'm saying there.

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<v Speaker 4>Then circa two thousand and one, he founded a company

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<v Speaker 4>that employed Chinese sweatshop labor to collect and sell imaginary

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<v Speaker 4>gold in World of Warcraft, the video game. This amazingly

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<v Speaker 4>made millions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Side note, at one point the company was run by

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Bannon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes that's Steve Bannon.

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<v Speaker 4>And those millions of real dollars from virtual gold. Brock

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<v Speaker 4>put into digital money Bitcoin early on, which made him

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<v Speaker 4>a billionaire.

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<v Speaker 2>At least that's what they say.

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<v Speaker 4>And now with the new agy crystal swathed psychotropic persona.

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<v Speaker 4>Rocks acquired quite a cult following in the crypto community

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<v Speaker 4>as a guru and on stage at coin Agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>He's at the main event, and.

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<v Speaker 10>As I like to point out, as Puerto Rico has

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<v Speaker 10>got a pr problem.

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<v Speaker 2>The room is full.

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<v Speaker 3>Brock is sitting cross legged directly on the stage today.

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<v Speaker 2>He's draped in linen.

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<v Speaker 10>So many wonderful technologies all coming together at the same time,

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<v Speaker 10>so many extraordinary innovators and entrepreneurs from all the modalities.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, this is not a crypto or blockchain movement.

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<v Speaker 10>This is in everything sort of movement.

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<v Speaker 3>And everything movement. You might be thinking this is all

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<v Speaker 3>sounding pretty crazy, and yeah, it does to us too.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's succeeded in selling a vision, a seductive one,

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<v Speaker 3>a vision that technology will set us free, make us

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<v Speaker 3>wealthy and spiritually fulfilled. And it could start right here

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<v Speaker 3>in Puerto Rico, a place where at this time more

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<v Speaker 3>than one hundred thousand residents are without power after the hurricane,

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<v Speaker 3>where government, both local and federal, isn't helping people in

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<v Speaker 3>their time of need. May the crypto people can offer

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<v Speaker 3>solutions where the government fell short.

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<v Speaker 2>What do people have to lose.

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<v Speaker 10>Fortunately, this is an island that's need of help and

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<v Speaker 10>that makes people more willing to listen than usual, and.

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<v Speaker 4>They do add big ideas for Puerto Rico, crypto based

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<v Speaker 4>cab companies, building startup cities on unused public land, even

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<v Speaker 4>turning the island into a cryptocurrency financial hub, a sort

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<v Speaker 4>of Caribbean Hong Kong but for bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the locals buying this vision is AJ. He

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<v Speaker 3>wants to be a part of Brock's Everything movement. AJ

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<v Speaker 3>sees a role for himself. He wants to get in

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<v Speaker 3>with Brock, make some money, and bring a Puerto Rican

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<v Speaker 3>perspective to Brock's team while he's at it.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's my duty to let them know that if

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<v Speaker 7>they're going to benefit from this taxes, they should give

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<v Speaker 7>back to the island. That I'm talking to them, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>convincing them that they should move to Puerto Rico, connecting

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<v Speaker 7>them with other people and they will invest in the

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<v Speaker 7>island and we will make it better.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things that crypto people keep talking about

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<v Speaker 3>is using a new tech to fix the island's infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, installing smart grids and solar panels throughout the island,

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<v Speaker 3>and as the conference is winding down, I meet some

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<v Speaker 3>people who are telling me they're headed into the countryside

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<v Speaker 3>to do just that. I'm told it's my chance to

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<v Speaker 3>see the crypto solutions for Puerto Rico in action. The

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<v Speaker 3>guy organizing the trip is a self proclaimed surf instructor, videographer,

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<v Speaker 3>life coach, entrepreneur, and blockchain evangelist by the name of

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Fritzler. He's psyched to have the media coverage.

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<v Speaker 11>We have a frickin' epic story unfolding because last night

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<v Speaker 11>I was at this hip hop concert and I met

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<v Speaker 11>this guy who's down to put solar panels on the

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<v Speaker 11>roof ar cond this place for free, and it would

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<v Speaker 11>be good to have you guys there because it just

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<v Speaker 11>makes it look more symbolical of like something's happening. Having

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<v Speaker 11>MPR there, it would just like make the whole story

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<v Speaker 11>like a little bit more awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>So the next morning, Jonathan and I, along with four

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<v Speaker 3>volunteers and a camera woman pile into a minivan.

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<v Speaker 2>We're headed to Cabra Ds on the west side of

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<v Speaker 2>the island.

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<v Speaker 3>In true crypto fashion, most of them accessorize with crystals

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<v Speaker 3>or agates of some sort. One guy has to be

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<v Speaker 3>jeweled goateea and rocks a tailored purple vest with matching

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<v Speaker 3>fedora and slacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Not exactly typical work gear for the tropics.

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<v Speaker 12>Were we going to have install their panels today?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, so when we come back to do

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<v Speaker 5>the work late.

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<v Speaker 11>This is kind of, uh, you know, front lines media

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<v Speaker 11>activism right now.

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<v Speaker 3>If you didn't catch that, he said, We're not actually

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<v Speaker 3>going to install the solar panels today. This is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be front lines media activism, he says, which apparently

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<v Speaker 3>means vlogging while driving.

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<v Speaker 9>So, hey, you guys, real quick, I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 9>do a quick video. We're here live and headed to

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<v Speaker 9>the hospital that was donated.

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<v Speaker 2>We pull up to a huge facility.

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<v Speaker 11>We made it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we've made timing.

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<v Speaker 3>It used to be the town's only public health clinic

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<v Speaker 3>until it closed down about ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 12>Follow us as we all get out.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we file out of the van, Jonathan directs

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<v Speaker 3>us for the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>And stop, stop stop right there, perfect director.

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<v Speaker 3>Once we have the perfect take, we get a tour

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<v Speaker 3>of the place from a member of a nonprofit one

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<v Speaker 3>human family coalition that's coordinating relief work there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's start with the tour.

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<v Speaker 3>Since Hurricane Maria, a group of volunteers, including a search

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<v Speaker 3>and rescue team, doctors and nurses have been using a

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<v Speaker 3>wing of the building as a makeshift hospital, and.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also unused rooms on used operating rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the tour ends and we circle up for thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>and prayers.

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<v Speaker 9>Puerto Rico being one of the corners in the Bermuda triangle,

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<v Speaker 9>almost being like a lost island, but we.

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<v Speaker 12>Have not forgotten about you.

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<v Speaker 9>We're here to support, and more than anything, we're here

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<v Speaker 9>to raise awareness for ourselves and for the world through

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<v Speaker 9>sharing these videos, through sharing this media.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we're here.

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<v Speaker 9>We're here for them, the people who have lost their homes,

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<v Speaker 9>the people who have lost their families, We're here for them.

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<v Speaker 9>We're here AH one, two three.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was it.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we piled into the van and left. No work

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<v Speaker 3>of any kind was done. Side note. Over a year later,

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<v Speaker 3>the cap of the s clinic still doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 3>solar panels or even an X ray machine. None of

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<v Speaker 3>the crypto voluntearists from our trip of them back there,

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<v Speaker 3>and the building is currently closed. The video shoot felt

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<v Speaker 3>more like a low key pr campaign than an actual

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<v Speaker 3>aid mission.

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<v Speaker 2>It was clearly a networking opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe not the best example of Brocks Everything movement in action.

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<v Speaker 3>We thought, okay, maybe it was just a fluke, but

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<v Speaker 3>it turned out to be just a taste of what

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<v Speaker 3>was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on Latino US say hey, there's.

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<v Speaker 12>A representative of me. This is a decentralized moment.

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<v Speaker 6>Is I'm not aware of anyone building any gated community.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you ald.

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<v Speaker 1>The island and the rest of the world react to

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<v Speaker 1>the portopians, stay with us, don't stay by. Yes, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. And before the break, our reporters, Joaquin Cottler

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<v Speaker 1>and Michael O'Brien took you into the world of cryptocurrency.

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<v Speaker 1>True believers set on making Puerto Rico their new home.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the wake of Hurricane Maria, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>rich Americans moving down and talking about changing everything on

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<v Speaker 1>the island wasn't the best kind of optics. A few

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<v Speaker 1>days after the big conference that our reporters just took

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<v Speaker 1>you to, the Intersect published a story about disaster capitalism

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<v Speaker 1>in Puerto Rico, and the crypto guys were front and center.

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<v Speaker 13>They are attracted to Puerto Rico because it holds out

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<v Speaker 13>the promise that they can convert their cryptocurrencies into harder

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<v Speaker 13>currencies while paying no taxes whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>That was March of twenty eighteen. A few months later,

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<v Speaker 1>anti austerity protests took place around the island.

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<v Speaker 14>Thousands marked May Day by joining a general strike in

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<v Speaker 14>the capital of San Juan to protest austerity measures, and so.

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<v Speaker 1>In that context, the Pertopians were coming off as pretty

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<v Speaker 1>tone deaf. Back now to Juaquin and Michael.

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<v Speaker 4>The May Day protests, they aren't really AJ's thing. He's

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<v Speaker 4>gone all in with Brock Pierces Everything movement. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>few months after the conference and Brock is spearheading another

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<v Speaker 4>week of crypto events, this time on the west coast

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<v Speaker 4>of the island instead of in the capital. They're calling

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<v Speaker 4>it Restart West. When we first met Aj at the

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<v Speaker 4>crypto conference, he was dead set on getting in with

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<v Speaker 4>Brock and his inner circle, and when he'd heard about

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<v Speaker 4>this trip out west, he saw his chance.

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<v Speaker 2>So he just showed up at Brock's house the.

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<v Speaker 7>Day before they were going to leave. I just went

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<v Speaker 7>there and I didn't leave. I was down to sleep

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<v Speaker 7>in front of the door. That wasn't needed in order

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<v Speaker 7>for me to go with them.

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<v Speaker 2>And it worked.

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<v Speaker 4>They brought him along to act as a liaison between

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<v Speaker 4>the crypto people and the locals.

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<v Speaker 7>Because it's important to have someone from here help with

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<v Speaker 7>the cultural and language barrier.

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<v Speaker 4>After all the bad press after the last events, the

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<v Speaker 4>goal was to make this one appear more inclusive. They

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to develop a better relationship with Puerto Ricans. Aj

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<v Speaker 4>would be their super.

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<v Speaker 7>Weapon, and that's why it's important to be working with

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<v Speaker 7>locals if you want to make an impact on the island.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the locals, and as Aj tells it, his local

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge came in handy. For example, they were having trouble

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<v Speaker 3>getting a venue. Aj stepped in. He made some calls,

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<v Speaker 3>pulled some strings in one fifty thousand dollars donation to

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<v Speaker 3>the university. Later, Restart West was in business.

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<v Speaker 4>Restart West is a more intimate affair, at least compared

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<v Speaker 4>with last March's events, more of a retreat than a conference,

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<v Speaker 4>lots of brainstorming sessions about how to be of service

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<v Speaker 4>to the island.

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<v Speaker 10>Puerto Rico has the possibility now of being put on

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<v Speaker 10>the map.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a hub of innovation and that's a wonderful thing

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<v Speaker 6>if it works.

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<v Speaker 4>Overall, think less pitching, more guided meditation, shand hum.

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<v Speaker 12>I am peace, I have silence inside of me.

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<v Speaker 4>They shack up in a ritzy villa in the hills

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<v Speaker 4>overlooking the water and rincone. One of the first evenings

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<v Speaker 4>goes so well and impromptu singalong breaks out, the same

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<v Speaker 4>one you heard earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>At first, things go pretty smoothly.

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<v Speaker 4>AJ organized as a hackathon at the university that's a success.

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<v Speaker 3>Two days later is their big outreach event, the Day

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<v Speaker 3>of Listening. It's built as an opportunity for the crypto

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<v Speaker 3>people to listen and learn from Puerto Ricans.

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<v Speaker 7>No I actually wanted to be more involved in the

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<v Speaker 7>planning of that particular event.

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<v Speaker 3>AJ says that if he had been, the flyers wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have all been in English.

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<v Speaker 4>For one, because the event takes place in a conference

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<v Speaker 4>frame at a resort spruced out with fake columns in

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<v Speaker 4>these wrenched chandeliers.

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<v Speaker 2>Frock's wearing a shirt that says Banksy is female.

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<v Speaker 4>Rock led the charge you guys have been working your

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<v Speaker 4>butt off for years down here.

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<v Speaker 12>That helps hear Now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's basically just the crypto people themselves in the room,

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<v Speaker 3>mostly non Puerto Ricans, except for a group of protesters

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<v Speaker 3>that showed up. There were half a dozen of them

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<v Speaker 3>in the room. They started by voicing their concerns.

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<v Speaker 12>I can't even afford to buy the land I'm stepping on.

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<v Speaker 2>All you see is extraction. I don't agree with this project.

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<v Speaker 4>And it quickly becomes apparent that this day of listening,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't have a lot of listening on the agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>More telling, Really, it is.

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<v Speaker 12>Going to be a beautiful thing. All of these people.

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<v Speaker 2>Have such good intentions, but you don't know that yet.

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<v Speaker 12>Ed, I'm not a believe.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're going to make something beautiful happen, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a part of it, whether you like

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<v Speaker 3>it or.

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<v Speaker 4>Not, whether I like it or not, it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>rock steps up and takes the mic me.

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<v Speaker 12>This is a decentralized movement.

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<v Speaker 10>If someone wants to build a gated community, I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>they can't do what they want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess just the activists accuse them of cryptocolonialism under

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<v Speaker 3>the guise of helping Puerto Rico recover from Hurricane Maria.

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<v Speaker 2>Things escalate quickly.

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<v Speaker 5>Planet have any interest in Puerto Rico until the taxpace came,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's why you're here.

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<v Speaker 12>I am here in service.

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<v Speaker 10>I've committed my entire life to the last breath, in

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<v Speaker 10>service to humanity.

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<v Speaker 12>I go where I can make a difference. I do

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<v Speaker 12>not give a about money.

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<v Speaker 6>It is not about compounding interest, it's not compounding impact.

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<v Speaker 12>Where can you make a difference? And so at the

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<v Speaker 12>choint is that world going. I like water and I

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<v Speaker 12>like more places. So there's a lot of places in

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<v Speaker 12>the world that need help.

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<v Speaker 6>And great.

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<v Speaker 4>A few moments later, they're somehow arguing about agriculture now

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<v Speaker 4>and Brock comes out with a strange retort, awesome.

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<v Speaker 12>And that's wonderful. To eat the rainbow? Are you saying

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<v Speaker 12>to eat the rainbow?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, the colors, the food groups, natural agriculture, organic food, biodynamic.

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<v Speaker 12>It's great stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>The look on the protesters face is one of shock

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<v Speaker 4>mixed with controlled rage. The day of listening has officially

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<v Speaker 4>gone off the rails.

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<v Speaker 10>I think I just offered to get a farm, and

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<v Speaker 10>if you were so interested in doing this, I just

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<v Speaker 10>offered to support.

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<v Speaker 12>You and give you as munch help because I can't.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't think that. I think that.

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<v Speaker 12>I think that's point of year.

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<v Speaker 4>Somehow the day wrapped up without anyone getting punched in

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<v Speaker 4>the face and everythings cooled down.

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<v Speaker 2>Brock said this in an interview.

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<v Speaker 6>We had a very healthy conversation with you know, a

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<v Speaker 6>few local Puerto Ricans that don't yet understand what this

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<v Speaker 6>movement or technology is about. For five hundred years, this

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 6>place is you know, been taken advantage of. So I

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<v Speaker 6>mean that I think that that's where.

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<v Speaker 2>Puerto Ricans should start. They should start skeptical.

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<v Speaker 4>Videos of the argument quickly surfaced on social media, the

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<v Speaker 4>press picked it up, it went semi viral.

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<v Speaker 5>Suddenly the die of listening becomes a die of project.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's a perfect example of why you need someone

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<v Speaker 7>from here involved in an event that is called day

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<v Speaker 7>of listening, because if you want to listen to the

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 7>Puerto Ricans, well you start by listening to the Puerto

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<v Speaker 7>Rican I want to help you.

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<v Speaker 3>Aj says that if they had listened to him, they

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<v Speaker 3>would have had more portagins in the room that were

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<v Speaker 3>open to their ideas. He would have anticipated the protesters,

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:06.919
<v Speaker 3>maybe figured out a way to stop them from disrupting,

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<v Speaker 3>do some damage control.

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<v Speaker 7>And just like one redly Gold, person could come in

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<v Speaker 7>and just make a gigantic scene about her own individual

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 7>ideas and people would think that she is to presenting

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 7>the rest of us, when that is not true. She's

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<v Speaker 7>just an individual.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole episode left kind of a stink on the

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 3>crypto movement in Puerto Rico. For a lot of the locals,

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 3>the Portopians seemed to be just another example in a

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.359
<v Speaker 3>long history of people coming to the island to make

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 3>a quick, text free bug, and the timing just couldn't

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:40.639
<v Speaker 3>have been worse. At the same time the Puerto Ricans

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 3>are dealing with so much. After Restart West, there wasn't

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 3>a whole lot in the press about the Portopians, but

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<v Speaker 3>just a few months later, Bitcoin was all over the

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<v Speaker 3>news again.

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<v Speaker 13>In twenty eighteen, bitcoin lost about eighty percent of its

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 13>value relative to the dollar. We're not just talking about

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 13>Bitcoin here, Other big cryptocurrencies lost the lion's share of

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 13>their value.

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 2>True disaster struck the crypto World's.

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 13>Been a wild ride for Bitcoin this month and this year,

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 13>the cryptocurrency going from the highs near twenty thousand dollars

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 13>to the lows and near three thousand dollars.

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 4>Crypto bottoms out. Billions in virtual coin just gone.

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 2>I come to bury Bitcoin, not to praise it.

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:29.119
<v Speaker 4>Sent to the Great Microsoft Windows recycling bin in the sky.

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 4>Those thousands of prospective Portopians, well, most of them just bailed,

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 4>but the true believers forged ahead, including Aj.

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 7>They are buying out the islands, little Buck.

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm riding in the cab with AJ and his then girlfriend, Scarlett,

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 3>who also works for his company, Edgie Block a lot

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 3>of it.

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>We met up with him.

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<v Speaker 3>Again in March of twenty nineteen, a full year after

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 3>we first met him. They're going to give me a

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 3>tour of Portopia itself, the crypto enclave in old San Juan,

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 3>where Brock and his cohort are snatching up and repurposing

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 3>historic property.

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they literally must have just unloaded their career ships.

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 3>Brock and his followers have set up shops right in

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 3>the heart of the Spanish colonial.

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 7>City, almost the Monastery Rock Fierce, his home on the island.

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 3>The monastery is a beautiful old Masonic lodge. It's painted

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 3>a bright pastel orange and sits in a row of

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 3>other majestic, similar looking buildings. AJ used to spend quite

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot of time here, but he hasn't been inside

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 3>for months.

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 7>We're going to gatus issues with some people that are security.

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 3>As we walk around. I noticed something's different about aj.

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 3>He's less cocky, pensive, a little distracted. The rest of

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 3>the buildings he shows me are within a few blocks

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 3>of the monastery. There's a co working space, but it's

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:49.959
<v Speaker 3>mostly empty. There's a weird cafe and a big vacant

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 3>building that once housed the children's museum.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 7>So Uerte Rico close, a lot of schools, a lot

0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 7>of hospitals, and a lot of like landmarks. In one

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 7>of these places was the Shoulders Museum.

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 3>In tourists thronged Old San Juan. This was a place

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 3>that locals brought their kids. It had been shudded for

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 3>two years.

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 2>When brought announced that he was going to buy it.

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 3>Crypto people used it as sort of a meeting and

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 3>co working space for a bit, but the community resented

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 3>outsiders taking what used to be a cultural building and

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 3>turning it into a private space for techis. The mayor

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 3>of San Juan even got involved. There was some drama,

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 3>a Twitter fight. Supposedly there are plans for a new

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 3>museum going forward, but for now, the big empty building

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 3>just sits there.

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 7>After a while, nothing's happening with it, and I don't

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 7>think no one any has ties no longer, so I

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 7>really don't.

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Know what It serves as a reminder of the tension

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 3>between the crypto folks and the community. I tried to

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 3>get the details from AJ about exactly why it's been

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 3>sitting vacant for so long, but he doesn't seem to

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 3>really know what happened, and it seems to hit a

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 3>nerve when I press him on it, like, wouldn't you

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 3>be among the people who knew what happened to that

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 3>building if you were like part.

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 7>Of that Yes, well, yes, but no, because we.

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Basically Armando likes to express his opinion, and his opinion

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>is not welcome.

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Scarlett is trying to be diplomatic. I'm she takes

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Aj aside and urges him to stay cool, but he

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 3>clearly wants to get some stuff off his chest.

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 2>No, we need to talk about this first.

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 3>He admits that while he was once a trusted member

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 3>of Brock's inner circle, not so much anymore.

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 6>He's significantly older than the other Puerto Ricans that they

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 6>work with, and he's very passionate and outspoken.

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:36.959
<v Speaker 2>He's harder to work with.

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 7>Sometimes my passion can seem like a threat to some

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 7>of them.

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I guess.

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 3>AG says they treated him well when he was useful,

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 3>but when he spoke his mind about things like how

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 3>they screwed up the day of Listening, he fell out

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 3>of favor. Not with Brock directly, he says, but with

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 3>the new inner circle.

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the things that broke. Sometimes he's not here and

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 7>then there's this a group of people that forms under

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 7>him that they just are looking up for themselves.

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 2>There's no hierarchy and everything she centralized.

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 6>It's a doggy dog situation where people are fighting over power.

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 6>And like frequently when we were part of the those

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 6>A's songs like.

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 3>The Lord of the Flies, new people showed up in

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 3>the scene that AJ didn't get along with. He started

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 3>feuding with everyone. Rumors start flying around, and AJ developed

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 3>a reputation as a bit of a loose cannon.

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 7>I just became like this volatile, crazy, intense Puerto Rican

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 7>kid that we shouldn't trust, even though he's doing everything

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 7>for them.

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 3>So AG gets pushed aside, and according to him, they

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 3>lose someone who could have helped them look better in

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 3>the eyes of Puerto Ricans.

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 7>My biggest criticism is that I don't want the whole

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 7>thing to look like a pubilicity scheme, because if it

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.479
<v Speaker 7>looks like a publicity scheme, people are not gonna take

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 7>them seriously. And if they don't take them seriously, we

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 7>can have impact.

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.719
<v Speaker 3>Scarlet's worried he'll say too much and get them in trouble.

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 3>After all, they're still trying to get funding for their startup.

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 3>She tries to stop him, but he finally goes off.

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 2>What is the point?

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 7>What is the point of this? That they're filled with

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 7>both people and it's.

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 4>For all the time that we've known Aj, he's always

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 4>appeared to believe one hundred percent in the Portopians and

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 4>their whole vision for the island, and this is the

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 4>first time that we see that his feelings are maybe

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 4>more complicated than that. In the year since we met Aj,

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 4>it's pretty clear that the cryptocurrency paradise that Frock prophesied

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 4>hasn't exactly come to pass.

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>But is it all bs?

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 4>We went back to Coin and Jena, Caribbean this year,

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 4>twenty nineteen, after Bitcoin's value crashed.

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 2>It's a completely different scene.

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 4>Last time was a multi floored multimedia affair. This year,

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 4>it feels like the entire conference could fit in an

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 4>elementary School, Capeia. As soon as I walked in, I

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 4>was greeted by someone selling crypto artwork.

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 8>So this is crypto art, okay, so think of it

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:12.280
<v Speaker 8>as bitcoin or in physical form as artwork.

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.919
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of steampunky, a little magic to gather.

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 4>There's these top hats, tribal tattoos, basically what you'd expect.

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Were you here when you hear last year? I was not,

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:29.919
<v Speaker 2>so I understand it was much bigger. I will thank

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 2>you for your time, Thank you very much.

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 4>Counting the art dealer, there's just half a dozen booths

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.879
<v Speaker 4>in the lobby. Brock isn't even here. But I did

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 4>find one person worth talking to, Michael Turpin. He's the

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 4>man in charge of coin agenda. We went to him

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 4>wondering why didn't anyone see this, this crypto crash, Why

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 4>didn't anyone see this coming?

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 14>Why do people not recognize when they're in the middle

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:56.720
<v Speaker 14>of the bubble because they're high, they're on the drug

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:57.280
<v Speaker 14>of the bubble.

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 4>That's not necessarily his opinion, It's something that Turpin heard

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 4>someone say earlier at the event. But Michael Turpin is

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:08.280
<v Speaker 4>one of the most influential people in crypto. He throws

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 4>these coin agendas, these crypto conferences all over the world.

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 2>But we'll be back next year, and he says bitcoin

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 2>will rise again.

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:17.800
<v Speaker 14>I expect that the price of bitcoin will probably be

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 14>about double. Not financial advice, but I've been projecting. I

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:24.240
<v Speaker 14>projected in twenty fourteen.

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 3>At the price of bitcoin, and Michael Turbin was right

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 3>after we talked to him. The price of crypto shot

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 3>back up again. But will it mean anything for Puerto Rico.

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Ever since Puerto Rico became a colonial possession of the

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 3>United States, mainlanders have shown up to make their fortunes

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 3>on the island. First there were the sugar barons, then

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 3>the pharmaceutical industry, and most recently, hundreds of people from

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 3>the hedge fund industry who arrived attracted by the island's

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 3>tax loopholes, in some cases, the very same hedge funds

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 3>that are eating off the island's dead crisis. Rock and

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 3>the Portopians came to the island promising that they weren't

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 3>like the others, that they were here to help, to invest,

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 3>to change everything for the better, And so far there

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 3>doesn't seem to be much proof that that's what's happening.

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 4>It wouldn't be accurate to say that the Portopians Everything

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 4>movement has contributed absolutely nothing to Puerto Rico. In twenty eighteen,

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.720
<v Speaker 4>Coin Agendas organizers say they gave twenty five thousand dollars

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 4>to local charities. Rock Pierson himself has made a few

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.800
<v Speaker 4>public donations that we were able to track down about

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 4>seventy thousand dollars worth in total. For context, that's less

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 4>than he donated to Trump's reelection campaign and to the

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 4>RNC this year. Rock does have a nonprofit called Integrow

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 4>that helps channel other people's donations into various causes, and

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 4>in interviews he said that his main contribution has been

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:57.799
<v Speaker 4>to encourage entrepreneurialism, but it's unclear what lasting impact he's

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 4>actually brought to the island. Rock declined to be interviewed

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 4>for this story or to answer any of our questions,

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 4>including our questions about his contributions to Puerto Rico. Brock

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 4>sold himself as a different kind of investor, but easy

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 4>any different. When he was on stage at Coin Agendas

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:21.320
<v Speaker 4>selling the Everything movement one of the companies he co founded,

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 4>Block One, they were partnering with some of the very

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 4>same hedge funders who owned Puerto Rico's debt.

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 3>And as we're creating jobs. According to recent government data,

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 3>for each of the twenty two hundred people who moved

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 3>to the island to avoid taxes since twenty fifteen, just

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<v Speaker 3>about two jobs were created. But AJ thinks that by

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<v Speaker 3>promoting Puerto Rico as a crypto and tech hub, more

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<v Speaker 3>jobs and investment will come. Despite all the missteps, the

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<v Speaker 3>colonial posturing, the grandiose promises to change everything. He's still

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<v Speaker 3>betting on Brock and the Portopians.

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<v Speaker 7>My grandfather, for example, is constantly like reminding me that

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<v Speaker 7>all the Americans have done, this goes over. I don't

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<v Speaker 7>know if I should say that, but then I keep

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<v Speaker 7>telling him no, I mean, this is an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's an opportunity for himself and for Puerto Rico.

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<v Speaker 7>As I'm saying, I'm also convincing myself because I have

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<v Speaker 7>some hope in humanity and I really think that if

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<v Speaker 7>the right people online, they can really make a difference.

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<v Speaker 7>And I know it's really swimming against the current. I

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<v Speaker 7>can make a difference on this island that I'm going

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<v Speaker 7>to be able to see on my own lifetime.

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<v Speaker 4>He still believes, even though some days it's hard for

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<v Speaker 4>Agent and keep the Faith.

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