1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Readily redly dalks. 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life, 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: This this Morning. 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 3: Combat, so fresh and so clean. Would you have a 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 3: gander at this? Welcome everybody. It is the tenth of 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: January twenty twenty two. It's time for Morning Combat. This 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 3: is Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. We're the host of this. 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 3: We're from CBS Sports, a showtime and this Brian Campbell 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 3: is the brand new studio. 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what success looks like. This is what 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: being at the top of your award winning profession looks like. 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: Luke will be teaching community college classes after this. The 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: play's dressed like this. But we are back to debut 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: here in Jersey City, blown up like you thought we 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: would call the crib though, Luke, same number, same bombshells, 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: new set, and officially we'll be moving down the street 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: later this year. But this is the brand new set 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 2: right here, and it is Luke. Our producers and directors, 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: which is normally a wild mix of unprofessionalism, they rallied 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: to curate at least my half of this set. Yes 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: to my exact specific personality and disorders. Yes. 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: For some reason, they've given you twice the amount of 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: set that they've given me, which I don't quite understand. 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: And then the other part that's kind of interesting is 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: that they asked for a list of books that I 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: wanted on my bookshelves. 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: They literally didn't get a single one, right. Well, I 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: didn't ask for not one of these books. 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: Now you can see over this, sorry, this shoulder. They 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: did get the DC flags right here, all rights. 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: Not Armenia. It looks close. 34 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: Luke, I'm sure you're an idiot. I know that that's 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: a fact. Put a flag up, move your stupid face 36 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: on it. Cultured here anyway, So they got that part right. 37 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: That's nice, And we made a trade earlier. I got 38 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: a bell. You have an aew belt on yours. Yeah, 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: you show the folks that you're going to see it. 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: They can't quite see it because of the way the 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: camera angle works, but. 42 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: We're gonna move the shit around, Luke, have fun with it, okay, 43 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: But this is the beginning of of our future, which 44 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: is going to be very successful. And Luke, the more 45 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: that people nominate us for Awards, I think the more 46 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: our our fan base is going to vote us in. 47 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 3: Right, looking good so far, pretty promising results on that front. 48 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 3: All right, so we have a lot to get to today. 49 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: There are the fights are finally kicking back into gear. 50 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: Obviously he was on one of them for Friday's showbox card. 51 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: We'll talk about that a little bit later in the 52 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: week or astart of the show, but we'll talk about 53 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: fights that are taking place a little bit later in 54 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: the week with the UFC getting back to action this weekend. 55 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: We'll talk about some fight news and some dropouts. We'll 56 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: do some well what are you gonna call them quick hitters, 57 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: we'll do it as well. 58 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: Tell we'll look at some shit too. 59 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: We'll look at some shit. We'll do your questions thumbs 60 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: up on the video. If you are watching on YouTube, 61 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 3: hit subscribe. If you are listening on a podcast platform, 62 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: please give us a nice review on Stitcher or Spotify 63 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: or Apple Podcasts, wherever that may be, and we'll promise 64 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: you things will never deliver on as you help us 65 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: scam the algorithm. 66 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. 67 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna give out to Yeah, we're gonna give 68 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 4: fifty dollars to nice reviews. 69 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: We didn't do that just live, so I think we 70 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: should do. But that's actually not up to something like you. 71 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: Don't we have to tell people to vote for the 72 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: next award, Luke, I don't know. 73 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, go to what was a podcast? 74 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: Sports Podcast Awards, Sports Podcast Awards dot Com. 75 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: Obviously we are very plugged in on all the things. 76 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: That we dropped the lower third for it right here. 77 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: That's sick. Let's the long it takes. 78 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: Let's seein they got a lot of new there. It 79 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: is sports podcast. 80 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: We're up for best combat sports Podcast against the likes 81 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: of trist Diixon's Boxing Stories, Aerial Hawani's MMA Hour, I 82 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: don't know, Chris Jericho's whatever he calls that thing. 83 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: So you got a combat sports pod? 84 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's really good. Though, it's really good. 85 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: When you say combat sports that I mean pro pro r. 86 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: No, most of it is like alien theories and UFOs 87 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: and rock and roll and stuff. 88 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: But great. 89 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we can beat all of them, you know, 90 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: because right now we are riding something called momentum. Do 91 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: you remember McGregor in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, sure, momentum? 92 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: Do you remember mk in twenty twenty two momentum. Bro right, 93 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: I'm at the point where I could throw any dad 94 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: joke out there and it'll hit. 95 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're doing pretty good. You're certainly right a high note. 96 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: I have to say that as well. 97 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: It's not the Delta. It's although they although a cameraman 98 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: over here. 99 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus Christ. I mean, there's just falling out. 100 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: Of his podcast so much in this room, right, It's 101 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: just it just is. 102 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: That why I got lives already? I couldn't believe it. 103 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: Amazing all right, Well, is. 104 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: The COVID producers here somewhere, she's probably checked out? Who knows? 105 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: With that in mind already to get the show started? 106 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want to just take one more second? 107 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: I gotta say, you're you're really taking it all in. 108 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 3: You were having a moment over there. 109 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you remember what our first set looked like. 110 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: It was like juvenile detention center. Basically look at us now, right, I. 111 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: Know, actually the first episode of this show was actually 112 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: Orange is the New Black? You were just in prison 113 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: doing it there. Yeah, no, this is great, this is amazing, 114 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: and this is as you indicated, we're probably gonna, you know, 115 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: tinker with the format a little bit here and make thing. 116 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: A little bit. 117 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: It looks like, yeah, I'm going to add at least 118 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: some part of my personality. Although that that book called 119 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: Chinese Boxing looks. 120 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: They put a book in their Chinese Boxing like I mean, okay, 121 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: I guess I'll never read that. All right with already 122 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: get the show, so let's do it, okay, Topic number one. 123 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: I believe I will go to this one. So right 124 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: after the show on Friday, news broke. So this is 125 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: not actually new news, but it is important news and 126 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: we've not reacted to it yet that Max Holloway would 127 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: not be fighting Alexander Volkovsky at their upcoming third bout 128 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: to decide one of the most important fights in featherweight history. 129 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: He is injured. 130 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: He will not be taking place, so they're looking for 131 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: a replacement. 132 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: Now. 133 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: Some of these guys through their name in the hat BC. 134 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: Some of them had their names sort of introduced as 135 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: part of being involved in the news cycle. Here's the 136 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: question we're gonna start with today. I'm gonna read you 137 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: these names. Josh Emmett, Korean, Zombie, ye Here, Rodriguez, Charles Olavera, 138 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: and Henry Shudo. These are the five names that have 139 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: kind of been circulating around Alexander Volkanovsky, who's trying to 140 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: stay on the same competitive frequency at the same time. 141 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: Before you tee this up, Volkanovski, did you see the 142 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: cryptic tweet he ad that involved the word lightweight? Because 143 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: the reason why Charles Elavera's on this list is because 144 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: he came out and said, look, I can I can 145 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: make one forty five easy. I'll move down and fight 146 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: for the second title. Why would Volkanovski tweet something about lightweight? 147 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: Is there a possibility for him to move up to 148 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: try to fight for a second title. 149 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: Maybe, but for now, I think he's trying to defend 150 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: his featherweight belts. So let's stick with that for just 151 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,559 Speaker 3: a moment. If we can be c of the five 152 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: names I read, let us assume just start this conversation 153 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: that you could make all five of those fights equally. 154 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: Yes, which one should UFC make? You're not gonna want 155 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: to hear my answer. 156 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm asking you because I want to hear your answer. 157 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: I was just gonna wait till like the staff. 158 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if they can talk more, that'd be great, 159 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: But like that they move. 160 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: The control room from the control room to like. 161 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: Right here, we're gonna actually come from the other side 162 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: of closed doors. We're gonna keep. 163 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 2: Talking way yeah, all right, okay, uh it's henrisa Hudo 164 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: Because here's the deal. When a fight falls out like this, 165 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: you and in best case Senier would go to the 166 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: next most deserving, obvious big name. I think at this 167 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: point in this division, with Otega having lost in a 168 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: little bit of a rech ruffling here, it's a deep division. 169 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: There's many big names, but I don't think there's that 170 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: one name who deserves it most above all others. So 171 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: to fill time, Luke to still have a co main 172 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: event or pay per view main event, you have the 173 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: opportunity of kind of breaking glass and bringing in celebrity. 174 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 2: That's what this Henry s Judo fight is. It wouldn't 175 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: disrupt the momentum of the top of the division as 176 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: we're seeing at bantam weight, where there's more of a roadblock. 177 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: It's like, can we just get that Sterling rematch all 178 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: done with already? I think it is creative, fun matchmaking. 179 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: I think Shudo has done a great job making his 180 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: brand as large as it can could be. By walking 181 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: away at the peak of his powers when he won 182 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: the second title and it was seemingly sort of in 183 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: control him coming back is creative fun. It just seems 184 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: to be the perfect fight to make in this scenario 185 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: because it gives wil Konowski a potential new Hall of 186 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: Fame name to ada on his resume if he wins, 187 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: and he should be the favorite. So I don't think 188 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: it's one of those situations where it's a more difficult fight. 189 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: I think it's a unique, special fight, Luke, in this case, 190 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: why do you hate that so much? 191 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: What is the difference in your mind between a unique 192 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: fight and a special fight? 193 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Since you said there's a difference between. 194 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: Them, did I say there's a difference between those two words? Well, 195 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: I think I said it's a unique fight. 196 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: Help me understand this is just what I'm up against. 197 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: I get with the Henry Sahudo fight. Why there is, 198 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: why there's momentum behind it, to borrow your description earlier, 199 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: and the reason why is largely as best I can tell, 200 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: an argument about possibility and marketing hype that doesn't have 201 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: much to do with what could actually happen. Folks say 202 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: he's got a shot to beat Volkanovsky. Okay, how what 203 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: is the path to victory for Henry sehudo because what 204 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: it looks like to me is that he's waving a 205 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: flag out there saying pay attention to me on the sidelines. 206 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: It's an interesting moment. He does have the great pedigree, 207 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: but I've. 208 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: Yet to see someone connect the dots to the next phase, 209 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: which is of the five names I read, why is 210 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: his name the one likeliest to attain victory? 211 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: I've heard that it allows it to look even though 212 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 2: I could make a great case to why he should 213 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: be in this fight in the discussion of winning this fight, right, 214 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: even though you give him kind of no chance in 215 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 2: a lot of ways, I think you were wrong on that, 216 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: and that's fine. We got to see it play out. 217 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: It's a lower risk option for Volkanovsky. But yet in 218 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: terms of a last minute thing, it's suddenly a huge deal. 219 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: So Whodo's a big name and we've even never seen 220 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: someone attempt to become a three division champion. I think 221 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: he's just minie. Henry has carried the curation of his 222 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: brand and the control over it so perfectly in trying 223 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: to take back any possible leverage you can get when 224 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: you're in the Star Center, when you get your moment 225 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: and he became a two division champion. You don't have 226 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: a lot of leverage in this pay per view era, Luke, 227 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: this was a nice leverage play by him. It's not 228 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: a huge risk because he's so small for Volkanovsky where 229 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: it's like, I don't you know, I want to stay 230 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: in line and you know, it's sort of an event 231 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: at that regard, and Volkanovski should win, even though I 232 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: do like some brutal chances to compete in there. It's 233 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 2: just perfect, lu because it doesn't disrupt the overall flow. 234 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: The point of that is, I love me some joshtt 235 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: but do you think he's deserving a title shot right now? 236 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: I think the answer is no. 237 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: This is a title shot under injury condition. 238 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: I love Zombie, but I don't think he's necessarily deserving 239 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 2: right now of this title shot either because there's no 240 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: because there's no one sitting there raising their arms saying 241 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: you know, I've been looked over. I don't think you 242 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: need to go to the level of bringing in Oliver. 243 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: I don't think you need to do anything like that. 244 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 2: I think Sudo is the perfect player for this, and Luke, 245 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: I think you need to wake up to the idea 246 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: that Volkanowski is the smallest other way that Joodle can fight. 247 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 2: So Hudo's wrestling is world class, as we know, but 248 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: his mind and his ability to adapt and game plan. Look, 249 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: he's in that fight. He's in that freakingvi. 250 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: These are just statements you're making that don't mean anything 251 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: his ability to do that. You're just saying words without 252 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: specific references to evidence. 253 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: Of him actually accomplishing these things. 254 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 2: You didn't see that three fight stretching went on when 255 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: he became kind of like a. 256 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say that stretch aged poorly because 257 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: that's not true, but it has not Mola Marice was 258 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 3: beating him up until he wasn't we know what's happened 259 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: to him since granted Henry was the first one that 260 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: was a tremendous turnaround up away class in the whole story. 261 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 262 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: We did to TJ hard to say exactly what that 263 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: was given the weight cut, but certainly it was a 264 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 3: strong woman for him. And then against Dovinda Cruz that's 265 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 3: amazing as well. That's a very he's. 266 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: A formidable fighter. 267 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: But I'm not sure what you see him there that 268 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: tells you he's gonna give a guy like Volkanovski. 269 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: I see a dat's ability different. When you're fighting Volkanovsky, 270 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: you need to be either on his level, like Qwise, 271 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: which we found out in the n Max was able 272 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: to mix the fact that he's all time great in 273 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: terms of smartness with his physical advantages and competing there. 274 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: You have to be on that level if you're not 275 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: a big slugger, or you're not you know this one 276 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: specific thing. I think Henry Souter is on that lie. 277 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: I just think I think he can look at a 278 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 3: guy like Volkanovsky as big as he sort of naturally is. 279 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: He's a smaller guy, but in terms of his power 280 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: and his strength. 281 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 3: And thinking a smaller guy is the guy to be him, 282 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: you think it's the bigger guy is the guy to be. 283 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: I could see him out working him. I could see 284 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: him pushing a pace that he would never be the favorite. 285 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: I would never pick him to be Volkanovsky, but to 286 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: act like this would be a one sided mismatch and 287 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: maybe shouldn't happen. I think that's the miss on that. 288 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 3: All right, so let's talk about some of these other 289 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: ones here, these names I got put in the list. 290 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: You like Henry Sahudo as the top option, I think 291 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 3: we would. Would that be a bigger fight from a 292 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: box office standpoint then Charles Olavera going down. 293 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: Away slightly bigger, Yeah, but they're pretty comparable. It would 294 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: be a pretty compular role because it's champion versus champion. 295 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: I know, so who was an ex champion, but still 296 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: it's that idea that he never lost the belt, he 297 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: went away on his own terms. Now he's coming back 298 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 2: for a third division that sells just as well as 299 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: oh crap trol Alvera is on this one hell of 300 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: a run. He's, you know, kind of cementing his own 301 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: all time greatness here. What would a win over Volkanovsky 302 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: like whether they did it f featherweight and try to 303 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: cut down and take advantage of this momentum he's on, 304 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: or whether they did it at lightweight so it was 305 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 2: less of a risk for Volkanovska at short notice, you know, 306 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: meaning he's not going to give up his title, He's 307 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: just trying to dare to be great. I would give 308 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: that the second option for me because it's such a 309 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: marquee fight. 310 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: I see. I think Olavera would give Volkanowski some serious 311 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: pro Oh. 312 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's why you would almost do that 313 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: at lightweight because you respect everything Volcanosk's accomplished, and you're 314 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: not telling him put up your belt against the enious guy. 315 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: So you don't want to send him down to one forty, 316 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: even if it's even though it's a more competitive fight. 317 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: Perhaps you don't. 318 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: Volkok Oliver for the lightweight belt. Then we're talking about, 319 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: you know, someone all time space. 320 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 3: So that leaves Emmett, Zombie and Rodriguez. Their existing place 321 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: in the rankings is Zombie is sitting at four, You 322 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: have Emmett sitting at six, and you have Yeah, you're 323 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 3: sitting at three. Yeahyer just lost to Max Owver somewhat controversially, 324 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 3: chance On Jung not in the running. 325 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: Obviously, what do you say? 326 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: Obviously he was the first name that jumped out because 327 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: he had interest. Volkanovsky had interests seem to interest all. 328 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I want that fight, But if they're 329 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 2: going to treat this Luke as a let's just put 330 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: a band aid on and keep the event going, then 331 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: maybe Korean Zombie. 332 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: Is the name. 333 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: So if you're just trying to keep Volkanovsky busy and 334 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 2: give him a title of defense and you're not looking 335 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: to overly book this into something bigger than it doesn't 336 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: need to be Volkov, then it is Zombie in there. 337 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 3: So Zombie got the big win the rebound over Dan Egay. 338 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: I guess the question you also have to ask yourself 339 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: is this question about who should replace who used to 340 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: be a lot easier ten years ago, because ten years ago, 341 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: when the pay per view model was what it was, 342 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: where it was highly volatile, it was strongly based on 343 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: star power, It would change dramatically month to month depending 344 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: on who was on the card, you had a little 345 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: bit of an easier time understanding the UFC's options. If 346 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: there was a strong, standout number one contender, they obviously 347 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: would go in that direction usually, but if it wasn't 348 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: super strong and then there was another name circulating that 349 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: was big. And this is not exclusively true of the UFC, 350 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: This is true generally of promoters who have that kind 351 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: of model. But I'm just pointing out now with the 352 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: ESPN model, if you're the UFC, are you saying to yourself, 353 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: for wait a second, do we really want this to 354 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: be like the big sales item on this card, or 355 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: do we just want to reward someone who hasn't gotten 356 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: a title shot yet, who's kind of been waiting a while. 357 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: Do we want to just create a bunch of sizzle 358 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: for the pay per view audiences. I think the UFC's 359 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: positioning here in terms of what they want based on 360 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: the opponent, should drive some of the discussion about which 361 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: direction they'll go. 362 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: I agree with you if they feel that they don't 363 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: need if this isn't a card that they need to 364 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: double down on to get pay per view buys, and 365 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: let's be fair about the reality where they're at in 366 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: their financial deal. You see the reporting from the guys 367 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: like John Nash, What do they get, Luca a base 368 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: of the equivalent of a five hundred thousand sale pay 369 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: per view in terms of the guaranteed money from the 370 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: US ten thousand buys, the equivalent of five hundred thousand 371 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: buys from ESPN. So there are cards now, Luke, where 372 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: you don't have to break glass in case of emergency. 373 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: So if they just want to move the chains and 374 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: this isn't one where they where they're aiming to really 375 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: get a big payback from, then that's why Korean Zombie 376 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: makes the most sense there, Luke, he's not going to 377 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: be favored. He's gonna make a fun fight the best 378 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: he can. He's gonna lose, But so hudo is the 379 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: fun play. 380 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: So hudo is the fun play. 381 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: All right, I'll tell you what I like it. No 382 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: one seems to like it. I grant that this is 383 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: not a popular idea. 384 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: Are you gonna say Josh Sammt? 385 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: I am gonna say Josh Sammont? And the reason why 386 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: Korean zombie? 387 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: To me, it's like, dude, he got the Danny gave 388 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: win is nice, it's a quality win, but there's nothing 389 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: in there that would tell you he would give Volkanovski 390 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: any trouble. And more to the point, he got beat 391 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: by Brian Ortegas. No, and then you got the other 392 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: name was Jeri Rodriguez. That's an interesting one. But the 393 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: Proust lost, he just lost it. Here's the problems. As 394 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: much as he gave Max Holloway fits, and he did, 395 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: and I do think he would give depending how where 396 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: it was situated. I think he could give a guy 397 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: like Volkanowski fits. But the problem is the wrestling. I 398 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: just feel like Volkanowski would take him down at will 399 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: and grind the fight out. There, that's not that interesting 400 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: to me. Josh Emmett I don't think can beat Volkanovsky. 401 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: But the reason why I said it is one his 402 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: time in the sport is limited. It's extremely limited. He's 403 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: thirty five, thirty six. 404 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: And he's figured out right now how to be as 405 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: great as he can be gun those injuries. That's it. 406 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: This is Josh Emmett at his absolute best, or pretty 407 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: close to a give or take him trying to get 408 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: in an opportunity like this. I totally understand, and I 409 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: do think over time Volkanovsky's defensive awareness, he doesn't really 410 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: ever over positionally, overcommit or get out of position. I 411 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: think that would be a big deal over time against 412 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: a guy like Emmett who blitzes into position a lot. 413 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: I think that would wear out its welcome over time, 414 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: and I think Volkanovski would win. But early on, I 415 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: actually do think that would be pretty competitive. So for me, 416 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: if you don't have a need to sell it big time, 417 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: and maybe you do, but I don't. 418 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: Think that they do. 419 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: You can do right by the division, but you keep 420 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: in a featherweight. You give a shot to a guy 421 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 3: who you're right doesn't deserve it. I'm not arguing that 422 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 3: he does, but I think you can make it competitive 423 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: and fun. Does have some danger there. He does have 424 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: big power. You would agree he has big power. It's 425 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: not as sexy as he shudo. I'm not saying that 426 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 3: it is. I just feel like it's the right play 427 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: to do well. 428 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: Will the decision here sway anything in your mind in 429 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: terms of what the UFC looks at volkanovsky Y's a brand. 430 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it will. 431 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: It will tell me a lot like and also what 432 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: that they could reward him by shudo, So whodo could 433 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: be his reward. Like Volkanovski's already fought the hard fights 434 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: and and grounded it out and won those. He kind 435 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: of deserves to get the treatment that Usman got with 436 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 2: the rematch with monsmital So Shudo is doing something interesting. 437 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 3: You can't sit on the sidelines and be like fuck you, UFC. 438 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 3: But if you sit on the sidelines and then you 439 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: kind of just wait for the big fish to drop and. 440 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: So you're like, oh, I'm gonna do you a favor. 441 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: Also, he doesn't have to make weight nearly as difficult 442 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: you can make one forty five. Harry Shudo would have 443 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: mated and relatively easily, and so for that reason we 444 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: just drop in, I'll do you a favor, I'll do 445 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: you a solid Uncle Dana that that's a little bit different. 446 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: So if they go that direction, it will also tell you, 447 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: obviously what they think about him. 448 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: Now, if Henry gets that fight, it's it's red Panny 449 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 2: Knight in the Albora Sine household. You know what I mean. 450 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: He's gonna send us so many drum. 451 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick? Do you know what name we're missing 452 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: from this discussion? Who would be perfect? Right now? No? Zibi? Yeah, 453 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 2: good old Zebbie. I saw him on Instagram. He's Harry Bastard. 454 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: I love that guy. Can he will? 455 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: He's your a little high on ze beat than I 456 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 3: am Calvcator. 457 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 2: I'm delta eight and a half onza beat. Believe that, 458 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: all right? 459 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: You know? 460 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 2: I love that man. Look, I think he's I think 461 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: he could win the championship if he wasn't so h 462 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: not coming back right now? 463 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: How many milligrams per gummy on those delta all? 464 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: All? 465 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: Uh? 466 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 2: All liquid nitrogen here? All right? 467 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: Right? All right? So I guessing which way the UFC 468 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: will go. 469 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: With this way, I guess they're gonna go to the Korean zombie. 470 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 2: I guess they're gonna just say, look, we don't need 471 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: to overdo this, we don't need that event right now. 472 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: We will will find a home for Suhudo and they will. 473 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: Eventually they'll find the right fight. Maybe it comes after 474 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 2: you know, let's let's say, what if payoder Yan finally 475 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: puts his stamp and hold on the bannamweight division that 476 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: we all think he could even though it's loaded. There's 477 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: a bunch of deserving people. I think jan is going 478 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: to be the last man standing. Is that a year 479 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 2: from now, and then you make Suhudo versus Yon. That'd 480 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: be a big fight. 481 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 3: You could do that also, by the way, interestingly, on 482 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 3: this card, it's two seventy two that we're talking about here, 483 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: So what will be the T Mobile Arena on March fifth? 484 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 3: It's currently scheduled to have the featherweight and the bantamway 485 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: titles up for grabs out on the same card. 486 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: Obviously Sterling is going to fight Peter Yan. 487 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: If Volkanovski stays on that, you probably do need some 488 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: help selling that, which makes Sahudo's chances of getting picked 489 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: a little higher. 490 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: A little you know, Alivera it's like there's too much 491 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: business to do at lightweight to take him out of that. 492 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: By the way, he could get hurt going down there too. 493 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: I know. And it's like do they really want the potent? 494 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: In reality? I mean, do you think Volkanowsky can beat 495 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: Oliver at well at lightweight? He wouldn't be favored. It'd 496 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: be an uphill battle. But do you think he can 497 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: beat and he beat him. 498 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: Yes, he can beat him. I would not favor it, 499 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: but I think he can beat him. 500 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: Do you think Volkanowski would take the offer from the 501 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: UFC to fight for the lightweight title and just say, look, 502 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: if I lose. 503 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: I lose. 504 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: Not a down in my mind, not a single solitary 505 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: dowt in my mind, in part because he's a competitor, 506 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: because he's a businessman. 507 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like us, he wants that ship, right, is 508 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: that snow? 509 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 510 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: You know one of our listeners Goran, Yeah, yeah, he's 511 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 2: he's friends with friends with Volkanowski, Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, 512 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: shout out to down Under. Okay, I don't know what 513 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 2: that means. That means he you know, put puts on 514 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: the ball cream after practice. 515 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, the ball to the odor. 516 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: Maybe manscapes, manscapes? 517 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: All right, topic number two here we stayed with UFC, 518 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: So this weekend the fights return to action. We are 519 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: back at the UFC Apex for UFC Fight Night whatever 520 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 3: the fuck it is. But in the main event, speaking 521 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 3: of the featherweight division, it is one hell of a 522 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: contest as Giga Chakatzi tries to enter the top five 523 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: by taking on I won't say perennial top ten talent, 524 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 3: but certainly a guy who's been at the top of 525 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: this division now in recent years in Calvin Cater OKBC. 526 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 3: Here is the question relevant to this discussion. What does 527 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 3: the winner here, in either case Chakatzi or Cater. What 528 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: does the winner get with a victory? 529 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: What do they I think there's a much larger upside 530 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: in Chakazi winning this in terms of what he can 531 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: do with it, Luke, Could Giga Chikazi become the next 532 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: zebeat meaning that sort of aura over him, this mystery 533 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: man that when he does for a title, Hey man, 534 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: maybe he's got a shot at doing this, you know, 535 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: maybe he's that sort of Swiss army knife that could 536 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: take hold of the division. Is that on the table 537 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: for Gigo with a win this big because I think, 538 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: full respect to Calvin Cater, he had sort of hit 539 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: his apex entering the Holloway fight and he lost, like, 540 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: you know, dramatically bad. He's not getting a ton of shot. 541 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: This win he buys time. He's a player. But this 542 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: to me is about Chakazi potentially you know, taken off. 543 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: Do you see him in the same category as Sarupian 544 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 2: and these other guys that you know, the Ekoliev who's 545 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: Hebeib's new boy, Islam Makachev? Is is Chikazi in that 546 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: category because if he gets a win here, Luke, he 547 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: could be taken zebeats thunder of what was left in 548 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: terms of that guy, that guy in the top five. 549 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: So I think if Chikazi wins, Chikazi is currently sitting 550 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: at eight, Cater sitting at five. So if you're. 551 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 3: Chikazi, there's a decent chance you could enter the top 552 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 3: five with this win. 553 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: No, you will, you will again in all likelihood. 554 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: You certainly will. 555 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: So there's that number one, number two. You know, you 556 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 3: could argue this is the most quality opponent Chikazi has 557 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 3: beaten today if he gets his hand raised right, So 558 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 3: you've got cub Swanson and you've got Edson Barboza on 559 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 3: the Ledger and those are impressive, but that's not quite 560 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 3: the same as somebody who I think is as battle 561 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: tested and talented as a guy like cater is. But 562 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 3: I think more than that, dude, it has started before 563 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: are the fight with Cub Swanson. Giga Chikazi lost. He 564 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: got choked out on the Contender series. Folks forget this 565 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: for some reason, and he had to go back to 566 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 3: the Gladiator Challenges of the world to get back on track, 567 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: and he did. In his first few fights in UFC, 568 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 3: they were like I think, the first two were like 569 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 3: split decisions, and he was grinding him out. He was winning, 570 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: but he was grinding them out. And now, dude, he 571 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: has figured out his offensive tempo, his rhythm, what rounds. 572 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 2: Was supposed to be. Are you're gonna answer my question. 573 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 3: Though, I'm telling you, I think Giga Chikazi now only 574 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: gets into the top five with this and gets the 575 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 3: signature one of his career to this point, but on 576 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: top of that, he becomes your dark horse contender for Volcanos. 577 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: All you had to say he's the next to beat, 578 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: That's all you have to say. He's taken that spot. 579 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: What does that spot mean? 580 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: That means that you're mysterious man of intrigue that may 581 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: may or may not completely take over this division. 582 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 3: I don't think a loss for Chikazi is all that bad. 583 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: Is a loss for Cater that bad? Are their losses equivalently, No. 584 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: Because I think a loss for I think a loss 585 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: puts Cater where he is at this point in his career. Look, 586 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: he's a he's a hard out in the back into 587 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: the top ten. You're still that guy if you lose. 588 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: This, Okay, So what does Cater get if he wins? I? 589 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: Like I said earlier, Luke, I don't think he advances much. 590 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: I think he buys more time in this area. But 591 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: I think long term, this is who he's gonna be. 592 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: He's gonna be that tester. I think we saw the 593 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 2: very best of him, and he was the best of 594 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: him entering the Max fight, and I think we found 595 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: out where is he? 596 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we should just say this out loud. 597 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: We have not seen Calvin Cater since the Max Holloway fight. 598 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: What condition is he going to be? And now, obviously 599 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: he trains really hard. I don't think there's any question 600 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 3: about that. Or I'm sure he is in good shape. 601 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: I don't have any issues or worries about his cardio 602 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: per se. But you are talking about this is not 603 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 3: just me on my hobby horse about like I don't 604 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 3: like let fights go too long. The way in which 605 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 3: Cater lost to Holloway is about as bad as you 606 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: can lose absent getting stopped, and in fact it is 607 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: arguably worse because if I one punch ring BC on 608 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 3: the jaw, he goes down face first but then gets up, 609 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: no big deal. 610 00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: But if I kind of. 611 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: Just hang on him for five rounds, that's much more 612 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 3: damage handing out. So we're talking about a guy who 613 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: got a historic, a historic beating where Max Holloway was 614 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 3: talking to the commentators while smashing his face. 615 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: Sure a minute ago, when I tried to make that 616 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: same point, you were just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, onto 617 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: my next point, and then you just made my point. 618 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: That was great, Okay, I got a launder your points. Wow. 619 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: Anyway, you get the. 620 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 2: Idea, Yeah, I got the idea. Yeah, I got it. 621 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I'm just saying, what are your expectations, 622 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 3: What do you think when it's all said and done, 623 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: whether he gets his. 624 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: Hand raiser or not. How bad? How much of a 625 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: detour was the Holloway fight. 626 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: I don't think it was a detour. I think it 627 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: was us finding out and him finding out where he's at. 628 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: No, no, no, but you could be that before the fight, 629 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 3: I'm talking about, what does that accumulated damage? 630 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's gonna send him back. He's gonna he's 631 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: gonna have a two three, four fight stretch left as 632 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: a gatekeeper for the top ten. Look, okay, and he's 633 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 2: a tough ass out and he's still got something left 634 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: in there. But we can't act like we didn't find 635 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: out who he was from that Max fight, And we 636 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: can't act like like you to your point, the Max fight, 637 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: he's't gonna take anything out of him. It's going to 638 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: aige him fairly significant. 639 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 640 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: I mean his only losses in UFC were to not 641 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 3: to Moykano and then there's a beat fight. 642 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: There's a beat fight you know, was not. 643 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 3: It wasn't a super you know, weathering fight. It was 644 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: just sort of pretty standard. 645 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 2: No, there's no harm done. If this is his plateau, 646 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: we're not putting it on him. Go rally back. I 647 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: love it. But if that's his plateau on an ABC 648 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: main event against a former champion. I mean, that's he 649 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: made a pretty damn far luke. But you can't convince 650 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 2: yourself he's coming over the top of Chakazi here, You can't. 651 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: I think there's too many questions surrounding a guy like 652 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: Cater to your point that picking him outright, especially given 653 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: the run that Chakazi is on and the stakes that 654 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: are involved, It's extremely difficult for me to pick Calvin Cater, 655 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 3: and I do worry about what not stopping that fight 656 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: might have done to him long term. This will be 657 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 3: the first time to get a real clear sense of 658 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: of that. And dude, you know, they didn't just give 659 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: him a tough opponent or a high ranking opponent. 660 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: They did do that. 661 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: They gave him that, But in giving him Gigachikazi, they 662 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: gave him just a guy who fights mean. There are 663 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: certain fighters who are just mean with their punishment and 664 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: ruthless with their efficiency, and that is exactly what. 665 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: A guy like Giga Chakazi is. 666 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 3: So like to go from the Max Holloway fight and 667 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 3: then into a Chikazi fight as Chikazi is surging, this 668 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: is out of the frying pan into the fire. 669 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: BC. 670 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: That's how the UFC does. 671 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: I saw you having a conversation there with the with 672 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: the crew here while. 673 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: I just did. He wasn't speaking loud enough. He's sitting 674 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 2: right there. He basically can just be like you see, 675 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 2: I think it's something with my airpiece, but look, you 676 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 2: need some airpiece control. Yours is hanging out of that. 677 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: I know it doesn't work. 678 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: And you don't have cauliflower era as an excuse like 679 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: our camera guy Mark does you know? 680 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got delta. 681 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: It's all. 682 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: All right. 683 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 3: With that out of the way, there's got to topic 684 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 3: number like a badge though, you see, I know you 685 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: are pumped for this fight. So it's slated for UFC 686 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 3: two seventy one. How about a heavyweight banger fest Derek 687 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 3: Lewis is going to take on tie to. 688 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: BC. 689 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: Let's start from the Australian side of things. How would 690 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 3: Tuivasa's career change if he beat Derek Lewis? 691 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: Like us debuting this new said big time, Luke, he's 692 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: on his way, he's making it. But tell me the 693 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: truth here, Luke. And this is probably the right test 694 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 2: given to Evas's win streak. But this ain't Augusto Sakai 695 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: when you saw this matchup where you were you the 696 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: same as me, like, oh shit, he deserves this, but 697 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: they're gonna get our boy hurt, like you know what, 698 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 2: like like this is well. 699 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 3: There are some times where you'll see like a Derek 700 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 3: Lewis fight, like I don't even know if this fight 701 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: happened anymore. 702 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it did. I can't remember. 703 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 3: Has Derek Lewis ever fought like Mike Marching Taibora or something? Yeah, Latifi, 704 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: so you'll see you it take a guy who's like 705 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 3: kind of upper end in the division just sort of 706 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 3: cycle through somebody's name and then they get to him. 707 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: This doesn't feel like that. This feels like a purposeful collision. 708 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it's the right fight, like to be fair, 709 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: like with the Christalkis fight. Who just fought Derek Lewis, right, 710 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: just remembering this, it was the right fight in his 711 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: sort of Okay, if you're gonna be that dude, if 712 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: you're gonna you know, dance with the upper core, you 713 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: got to get past the guy. This dangerous for Tuivasa Luke, 714 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: I love the improvement and fitness. I've heard the interviews 715 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: in which he basically said, Look, before I wasn't that 716 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: focused and didn't care as much. Now I'm trying. You 717 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: love to see when a fighter, especially a fun fighter, 718 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: he can get behind like this, wakes up and says, no, 719 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: I want to be there to be great. I want 720 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: to find out how great I am. I'm just not 721 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: convinced his ground game, his guest tank, his you know, adaptability. Sure, 722 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: you're sure he can bang, but can he bang for 723 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: three rounds? You know, four rounds and make adjustments and stuff. 724 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: I don't think it's on that level. I think eventually, 725 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: if you're not on the level, Derek Luis is gonna 726 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: catch you. So I got fears for Tuivasa, but this 727 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: is gonna be a fun ass fight that we have 728 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: to be there for. We got to be whether we're 729 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: there or not, we got to be. You know, look 730 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: this forty nine times. Maybe this is gonna be fun. 731 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: This might get fifty. 732 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this fight's gonna be fun. But what 733 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: do you do with your team to Avasa getting a 734 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: shoe and eat it? 735 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: What do you do here, Luke if he wins? 736 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: No, if you to get ready mentally for this? 737 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: So let's talk. 738 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: About who beats him or who has beat him, which 739 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: may not be relevant, but at least is what we have. 740 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: He has the JDS loss, which he lost via TKO 741 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: back in twenty eighteen. 742 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: He has the. 743 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: Blgoy Ivanov loss, which was his loss bro. And then 744 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: he got arm triangle choked by Saraga Spivack. That seemed 745 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: to me like the bottom for him. That was in Melbourne, Australia. 746 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: By. 747 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: Yes. 748 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: So since then he's beaten Stephan Struve, Harry Hunsucker. 749 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: That's a real fighter. That's a real fighter. Greg Hardy 750 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: is the. 751 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: Name of our merch guy, right, Raymond Dunzelmaker. 752 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: Every time we're on the call on zoom BC slightly 753 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: changes his name. He's like, all right, so is R. J. 754 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: Rumple still skin there? And then next time he'd be like. 755 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: All right, is r J. Ruppel Force in the Yeah? 756 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: All right, Like you're just gonna call him names for 757 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: your genitals from now on. All right. Then he'd beat 758 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: Greg Hardy. 759 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: And then the most important one, as you indicated, was 760 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 3: Augusto Sakai. Can you infer anything from the nature of 761 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: the three losses Ivanov Santos. 762 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: Spit, Yeah, the same sort of things that we're talking 763 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: about and can we get somebody to fix this because 764 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: now I'm you know, I'm all like it. You know, 765 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: I'm all right sorry about that. Uh So, you know, Luke, 766 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: he's been rebuilding the intangible things that will need to 767 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: be there if he's going to end up being a 768 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: title contender that the want, the focus, the fitness, all 769 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: that stuff. Luke, but he doesn't have a real evolved game. 770 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: He's still playing one note, one fun, big ass note. 771 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: But Derek Lewis blows that note much, you know, at 772 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: a much higher level and volume. And and I don't 773 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: think we learned anything from those losses because he's not 774 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: that guy who's not trying as much. But would you 775 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: be would you be largely surprised if this was if 776 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: this turned out to be the Tai tu Vasa career 777 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: changing moment and he gets a victory. 778 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: I'd be a little bit surprised. 779 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: It'd be very surprising. 780 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 3: I think a guy with power like that you could 781 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 3: never say, are you guys shouna come over here to him? 782 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: Slashould monologue, Yeah. 783 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: Okay, wild we can get Nolan on here. Know he's 784 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: been the weight room. 785 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: Yes. 786 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: The thing about Nolan though, like Chewbacca, he's about it, 787 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like shit goes down the 788 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: sound guy, what have. 789 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: You done that you've called Nolan for backa yo. 790 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: You could just tell you those power crystals and when 791 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: you share, well, you can just tell. 792 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 3: Dad, Yes, ty winning is in play, but it would 793 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 3: require something of him, true or false, that he has 794 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 3: not shown yet. 795 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great way to sum it up, Luke. 796 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: And he's got the power. 797 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: The thing is Derek Lewis doesn't. He can get a 798 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: fatigue ko, but he isn't like getting slug fest and 799 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: get knocked out. That's the thing. So it doesn't anymore, right, 800 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: this sort of dialed in version of Derek Lewis. And 801 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: he's to his credit, he stayed at a fairly high level. 802 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: I mean he's he's coming on right now, so to speak, Lucas. So, 803 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you know you're not gonna out point is he? 804 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: I mean, is ty Tyvosa gonna outpoint Derek Lewis in 805 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: his first five round fight? No? 806 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 3: No, I mean this is the problem with fighting Derek 807 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 3: Lewis at this stage of the game. Derek Lewis, by 808 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 3: the way, still not old himself in the division not 809 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: ty too Vaso twenty eight, but I think he's like 810 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 3: thirty four to thirty five something like that. He's not 811 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: that old for heavyweight and thens to that point. Dude, 812 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: he now has. We talked about it with the Chris 813 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 3: Dalkas fight. Dude, a guy like Derek Lewis can say 814 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 3: what he wants, can pretend to be something he's not. 815 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: Derek Lewis is not just a heavy handed fighter. He 816 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: is a smart fighter. He is a clever fighter. Here's 817 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 3: a fighter thirty six, excuse me, still hardly old and 818 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: at thirty six with all this experience in the division. 819 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 3: He is a fighter who sets traps. He sets traps, 820 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: and he orders the fight and pushes it towards his strengths. 821 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: He knows what he can do, he is very conscious 822 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: of what he cannot do and tries to have a 823 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 3: fight where it's only on one circumstance and. 824 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: Not the other. 825 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: And I should point out in his division for his 826 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 3: career has been generally speaking, quite successful at that with 827 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: some noteworthy exception. 828 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: Derek Luis has won five of six, the only loss 829 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: being to Serril Gan, who may or may not become 830 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: the full champion soon does he get a title shot 831 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: with a win here over two of us. That's not 832 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: completely out of play. 833 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: The problem with this is Derek Lewis has kind of 834 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: replaced Curtis Blades as the guy who's not white, the 835 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 3: guy yep in this division, and Blades can get it back, 836 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: but currently I think. 837 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: To still be in front, he might get steepey fight 838 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: from this. Would you you get pysed up for steep 839 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: pay versus Derek. 840 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: Lewis, Yes, yes, I would worry if I was Lewis 841 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 3: about the wrestling from steep A that would be a problem. 842 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: But Steve is older now, so. 843 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: You can you can knock him out with a jab 844 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: if you're in Ghana. Well. 845 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: But but yeah, so to me, if Tasa got this win, 846 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: I won't I don't know if I'd say changing. 847 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: Of the guard or something. 848 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's quite that exactly, but that 849 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: would be I mean, signature win for sure, and to 850 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 3: do it firmly, unless Lewis just says fuck it, let's brawl, 851 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 3: which I don't think he quite will. 852 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: Not, not not that way anyway. This it's going to 853 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: require a certain measure of growth from Tuivasa. That is, 854 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: he has shown yet. 855 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: Speaking of Tie, and this is not some continued joke, 856 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 2: you know, talking about him shitting his pants. But Luke, 857 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: did you see that after his last win? Do you 858 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: remember he did a bunch of shoeyes, and then on 859 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: his way down the aisle he did a final shoey 860 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: and he was like he couldn't see. He was like blinded. 861 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: Somebody put Tabasco sauce in the shoe. That's what you get, 862 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 2: And don't get that. I don't if you know, went 863 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 2: into his eyes and stuff and uh, that's gross. Do 864 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 2: you like, what are the odds that he's accidentally picked 865 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: up other fluids that he didn't intend to by doing 866 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: so many shoeies? 867 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: Like has he ever eaten jaz or something? 868 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: You know? I wasn't going to say that, right, I 869 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: was going to say, like, you know what if just 870 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 2: some non discrete guy shows up from halfway across the 871 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: country is like, hey, I made you this. 872 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: Read it and say Brian Campbell says eats jizz? 873 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: No, No, but you know, did you when you ate that? 874 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 2: When you ate that? 875 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: Uhlan landizz? 876 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: It was good though, right? It was tasty? Yeah? 877 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't feel bad for tytoo, Boss, and 878 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 3: his shoes. If you do a shoey and you get 879 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: tabasco in your eye, yeah, you shouldn't do that to someone. 880 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 2: But you know, what's happened to us since we did 881 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 2: a shoey blown up. It's been the equivalent of what's 882 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: happened to you since you met me again. I don't 883 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 2: remember when I came back in life metrics that since 884 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: I came back into your life, what happened in July 885 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, MMA be at episode two hundred you and 886 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: I reunited. That's right, that's right, since then you knocked 887 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: up your wife and had the true love. 888 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: I can thank you for that. 889 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 2: You can thank me for two ky Okay, you very careful. Yeah, 890 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 2: you know you got hired by Showtime. You know, CBS 891 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: Sports brought you in an award. You know you became 892 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 2: financially solvent. Yeah, well you know where you had something. 893 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 2: The people receive you at a much much happier level. 894 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: That is true. Yeah, yeah, but I don't have quite 895 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: as big an audience. 896 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: It's kind of like when you're like a donk, but 897 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: then you get like a girlfriend. Suddenly everybody wants to 898 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: bang you. Luke, right, you know, I'm getting you. 899 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 1: I'm not fucking you to know I'm. 900 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 2: Getting you editorially late. 901 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: Okay, we're not editorially fucking. Just so that's clear. 902 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: Our bosses big time. 903 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 3: Okay, see, let's go to point number four. Topic number four. 904 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 3: I gotta say I like the new graphics, but it's 905 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 3: not really see is that? 906 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 1: Go to the major screens. 907 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 2: Looc will direct the rest of the way. 908 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: I'll be a charge here. No, you put the point 909 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: number four? 910 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 2: Do you have it? 911 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: Did you have the graphic for the. 912 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: No? He wants it on the big screen. 913 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, on the big screen. 914 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: He wants you to use your toys. That's a j 915 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 2: response from Corey right there. 916 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: Oh, he says it doesn't look great. 917 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 2: I thought it looked great in the pictures. 918 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looked great when you were selling me. How 919 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: good the studio was? 920 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 2: All right? 921 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: Topic number four BC. 922 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 3: The month of January has a ton of different MM fights. 923 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: Belator will be back. You have see, as we mentioned already, 924 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 3: back in action, and there is plenty of others. Give 925 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 3: me a fight, boxing or MMA in January that is 926 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 3: falling below the ring. 927 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna laugh at this. You're gonna say, this 928 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 2: is me picking out the grossest hot dog on the roller. 929 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: But Luke, Greg Hardy versus uh Oleniak, I'm glad you're 930 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 2: encounter Alexile. That's an interesting fight. 931 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: If you eat hot dogs. 932 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 2: Yes, if Greg Hardy loses this coming off the bad 933 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 2: K loss, people over Greg Hardy, way over it. But 934 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: the UFC is going to be over him. And this 935 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 2: is the right matchup. Yeah, Lennix like fifty eight and 936 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 2: he's got sixteen losses. But he gets him in one 937 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 2: of those what do you call that thing? He puts 938 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 2: them in ul he gets in that, he gets biblical 939 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: on that. 940 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: Right here. 941 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hell. 942 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: It's like a Michigan frog coming down the fucking street. 943 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 2: Uh Luke, I'm oddly intrigued by that. You have no 944 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: interest in that. 945 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: Le's than zero, I mean none whatsoever. 946 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 2: They're fine fighters, or you know, they're not fine fighters. 947 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 2: Look they saw this. 948 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: Alexei Olenk is a legend. 949 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 3: I'm not going to talk badly about him, and Greg 950 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 3: is whatever Greg is at this point. 951 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: Here's my question about that. 952 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 3: When he eventually bounces out of UFC, is he going 953 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 3: to belot wore PFL or b KFC? 954 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: Serious question? 955 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 2: I say PFL, I say they use no fucking I 956 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 2: say they you don't think No. 957 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: Dude, the guy's got bad cardio and can't wrestle. 958 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: He's got a lot of baggage. 959 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: Do you know what he goes? That's smart cage order eats. 960 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 2: No, dude, what are we talking about? He is the 961 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 2: perfect candidate for main eventing Triller Triad, like one hundred percent. 962 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 1: How did I not think of that? Yeah? 963 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 2: I mean could we're gonna see Anderson Silva versus Greg 964 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: Hardy in a mixed hybrid fight? Aren't we on scooters? Yes, 965 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: on scooters and ship you know? All right? 966 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your fighter this month. 967 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 2: I didn't know that boxing was involved in this loop. 968 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 3: Do you have a boxing one? There's a big dezone 969 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 3: push for the next three months. I'm not sure how 970 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 3: many are in January though. 971 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll stick with that answer, but you're probably gonna 972 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 2: give me something, are you? Are you afraid at all 973 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: that Cheyenne's Listmas is somewhere out of the country at 974 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: an undisclosed locations. Funny, I did. 975 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 3: Read about that wild and by the way, very on 976 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 3: brand for you to tease out of nowhere about about her. Yeah, dude, 977 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 3: she is in an undisclosed location. She says she's training. 978 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 2: This was like the movie Taken. 979 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but she didn't well she did it on purpose. Apparently, 980 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what I understand. Can I give you 981 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 3: my under the radar MMn fight this month? I want 982 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 3: to go with and Victa has a show on Wednesday. 983 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 3: It's gonna air on MMA Junkie, I think through their 984 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 3: YouTube channel in Victa forty five. It's going to feature 985 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 3: the Adam wait title fight. This is a rematch Alicia 986 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 3: Zappoletta and Jessica Delboni. They fought I think earlier this year. 987 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 3: I want to say May or June of this year. Zappoletta, 988 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 3: who is the existing champion, won that fight. Then del Boni, who, 989 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 3: by the way, what she wanted to be a split. 990 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 3: It was very much contested. The commentators Megan Anderson thought 991 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 3: that Delboni had won. Del Boni goes into the Phoenix 992 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 3: Tournament to get a title shot again, wins it and 993 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 3: this will be the rematch Adam Wade, for folk who 994 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 3: go to know, is one hundred and five pounds, so 995 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 3: it's the weight class just below strawweight. 996 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 2: And isn't the UFC rumored to be correct? 997 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 3: See why I bring this up because I have a feeling. 998 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's this year or when. I 999 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 3: don't have a feeling on that, but Adam, wait, globally 1000 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 3: is a big enough weight class for the UFC to 1001 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 3: take it in. 1002 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: I think that they will overtime. 1003 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: You smell a tough season. 1004 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, the best way to put it in at this point. 1005 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: So look for it. 1006 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: Rematch Sepalta del Boni Wednesday for free in Victor forty five. 1007 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: That's the one I'm gonna be paying attention. 1008 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 2: Okay, who's the announced team on in Victor these days? 1009 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 3: So for that one, it was Kedzie doing color commentary, 1010 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 3: was Meg and Anderson, and it was TJ. 1011 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: DeSantis. Shouts to tj. 1012 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 2: Og podcast producer to the Stars. 1013 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I remember when he was hosting beat Down 1014 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 3: with Josh Gross on sher dog dot Com like five 1015 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 3: o six something like that. I was listening at the time. 1016 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 3: I remember when it was Ryan Bennett and Frank Trigg. 1017 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 3: First first EMMA interview I ever listened to on like 1018 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 3: streaming radio was they had Carl Parizi on after he 1019 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 3: fell out of his fight with Matt Hughes for UFC 1020 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 3: something I'm I think a lot of Carlos years were. 1021 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: Oh look, you know, different topic of course, But how 1022 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 2: excited are you after watching the rough draft of Morning 1023 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 2: Combat Documentary number six, which should be coming out in 1024 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 2: the next week. I mean, were you like, we're we're 1025 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: in the middle of the right like fired up? Lu 1026 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 2: because I was pretty fired up, dude. 1027 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 3: You're like, hey, I just like patwa medium and okay, 1028 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 3: I like apples a lot of there's a lot of 1029 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 3: celebrity droppings on there. 1030 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: In fact, have you put on yet have you worn 1031 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 2: the underwear that the schmoe gifted you with that separates 1032 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 2: your balls from the shafto? 1033 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't think I have one that yet. 1034 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 2: Okay, probably i'd be interested in. 1035 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 3: Then we do quick hitters before you just deficate all over. 1036 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: The set, please in person? 1037 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 2: Right, you get a lot more. I like it. 1038 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 3: But let's get through the let's get thro the run here, okay, 1039 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 3: quick hitters topic number five if we can for that one, 1040 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 3: all right, I do. 1041 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read his resume here in a second. 1042 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 3: But you just gotta be blown away at this RDA 1043 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 3: versus Raphael Phys booked for February nineteenth at one of 1044 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 3: the UFC Fight Nights BC. 1045 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 2: It's gonna be that's a badass fight, Dude. 1046 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 3: I want to say something about this. There's a couple 1047 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 3: of guys we've pointed out over the years. Jeremy Stevens 1048 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 3: has been one of them. Here is another one. I've 1049 00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 3: just got to say. 1050 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 2: But Rdia is more gay Guard Musasi underrated than he 1051 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 2: is Jeremy Stevens. He's a higher level in class. He's 1052 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: a former champion. That's right, dude. 1053 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 3: Listen to who this fucker has fought. This is RDA's 1054 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 3: resume since coming to the UFC. Some of these he won, 1055 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 3: some of these he lost. Listen to who he has 1056 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 3: been in the trenches with. Ready his debut was Jeremy Stevens, 1057 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 3: Tyson Griffin, Rob Emerson, Kyle Bradley, Terry Adam Clay Guider, 1058 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 3: George Soutaroppolos, who was a big time grappler at the time, 1059 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 3: Lison Tebow, Kamal Shallerus, Anthony and Jerkawani, Mark Bochik, top 1060 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 3: grappler out of Canada, Evan Dunham, Donald Serni Habib, Jason Hide, Benson, Henderson, 1061 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 3: Nate Diaz, Anthony Pattis, Serroni again, Eddie Alvarez, Tony Ferguson, 1062 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 3: tartk Saffadi, Neil Magne, Robbie Lawler, Colby Covington, Kamaru Usman, 1063 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 3: Kevin Lee, Leon Edwards, Michael Kiessa, and most recently Paul Felder. 1064 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,479 Speaker 3: Mother fucker name as somebody who's done that shit. 1065 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 2: Yo. He's a badass, does a Jos is a fucking badass. 1066 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 2: He doesn't get the love, you know what, Luke? He 1067 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 2: may he may still get that Connor fight that that 1068 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 2: he talks about in every single interview, because it of 1069 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 2: course fell out at one ninety six when they're supposed 1070 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 2: to fight for the lightweight title. Even with a loss here, 1071 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 2: he's still kind of the perfect Connor comeback opponent if 1072 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: the UFC isn't panicking, because if they're panicking, you kind 1073 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 2: of want to do Nate three or do some type 1074 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 2: of monster super fight. 1075 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: But even if they don't do, like, don't you feel 1076 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: like Poria losing just makes the Connor pory thing. 1077 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't need it, I don't 1078 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 2: want it done. Would would you'd be pumped up for 1079 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 2: DA because it wouldn't be like some soft cowboy gimme 1080 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 2: that's a tough fight. 1081 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: That's tough, dude. 1082 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of the perfect There's never gonna be 1083 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 3: a situation where Ardia gets booked and you're like, well, 1084 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is a tough fight, motherfucker, 1085 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 3: he's in it. 1086 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 2: Can you can you be a pH can you beat him? 1087 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 2: At this point, he's been at a good form lately already, 1088 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 2: he's thinking if he mixes it up, he can. 1089 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 3: I don't think on the feet, you know, Listenhzive is 1090 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 3: very special on the feet, just a guy you don't like, 1091 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 3: why would you fight Phasive on the feet more than 1092 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 3: you have to if you are well rounded enough. And 1093 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 3: we know a guy like Dosano is extremely well rounded. 1094 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 2: So here's why I extra respect Dosanos is. Look, he's 1095 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 2: already had these crossroads moments where he's like, I can't 1096 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 2: make one anymore. I'll die if I make it, and 1097 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 2: he keeps kind of like reinventing ways for your life, 1098 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 2: figuring out like this guy's a he's Luke. He's like, 1099 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: he's a lot like you in the m M A space, 1100 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 2: just a lifelong grinder, and you know, at the end 1101 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,879 Speaker 2: of the day, you have at certain points in your career, 1102 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 2: like the last couple of years you know, been at 1103 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 2: operating a very high level. RDA has that. 1104 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: Rare delusions of grandeur are unknown. 1105 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I am the reason for your success. 1106 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 2: I'm like the air freshener in the car of your success. 1107 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: Right, Do I no longer have the new car smell? 1108 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1109 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. 1110 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 3: March twenty six homecoming for the immortal Matt Brown as 1111 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 3: he's going to take on Brian Barberina. 1112 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,879 Speaker 2: Dude, I love this fight. 1113 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: Matt, Matt fucking Brown. 1114 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 3: Someone put together a thread, whoever it was, of all 1115 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 3: of Matt Brown, a jiff thread of all of Matt 1116 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 3: Brown's finishes in the UFC, and then Matt Brown retweeted 1117 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 3: it and wrote, this threat is pretty badass. If you 1118 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 3: asked me and I was like, yeah, it is Matt Brown. Dude, 1119 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 3: that threat is incredible. Here's another guy again. He hasn't 1120 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 3: been a UFC championship level at any point is career, 1121 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 3: but he's been a great Let's. 1122 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,720 Speaker 2: Give him the credit. I think it was twenty fifteen 1123 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 2: area that run he had which which ended with the 1124 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 2: Robbie Lawler lost when he won like seven in a 1125 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 2: row and you were like, dude, Matt Brown's kind of 1126 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,439 Speaker 2: a title contender. That was really fun to watch. Remember 1127 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 2: when he had that main event at like the Fight 1128 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 2: for the Troops card that was in I think Ohio, 1129 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 2: and I forgot who we stopped in that main event, 1130 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 2: but it was a Sunday night card and it was like, 1131 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 2: oh shit. 1132 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: That was looking back Diego. 1133 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 2: Maybe it was the slashed that was later when he 1134 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 2: was older. But by the way that Diego slash, I 1135 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 2: was going to ask you a little worst. Is that 1136 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 2: more violent than the way Hendo beat Hector Lombard at 1137 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 2: one ninety nine. Yes, with those like Motorcycle Gang elbows. 1138 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 3: With the Actually, if you actually go back and look, 1139 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 3: they didn't have to turn Diego over because he gets 1140 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 3: hit so hard his body naturally does a fullward role. 1141 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: God. 1142 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 3: But dude, also, just to get back to our conversation 1143 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 3: about Hall of Fame stuff, because we're always miired in it, 1144 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,879 Speaker 3: this is sort of what I mean. It's like, dude, 1145 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 3: Matt Brown is not going to qualify it on his 1146 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 3: own individual resume for the Hall of Fame. He might 1147 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 3: get in through a fight or through something else, but like, 1148 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 3: that's not a slant on Matt Brown. Look at how 1149 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 3: hard it is to do what Matt Brown has done. 1150 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 3: Like you're talking about a very very successful fighter, very 1151 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 3: worthy of our praise and admiration. But the kind of 1152 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 3: space were reserved for Hall of Fame is a tier 1153 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,800 Speaker 3: or two probably beyond. 1154 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: This doesn't mean he didn't have a great career. We 1155 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: can't say nice things. Point that out. 1156 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 2: Okay, beltiore, and that's gonna be a banger, dude, Barbara. 1157 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 3: Barbarina comes to fight, so he's probably gonna be I 1158 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 3: think Matt Brown's gonna beat him, but we'll see, all right, 1159 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 3: beltiore science controversial ex amateur wrestler Pat Downey. 1160 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know nothing about this guy. I've I've 1161 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 2: read it, but to. 1162 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 3: Patt Downey is interesting guy. So Pat Downey is a 1163 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 3: guy that at one point in his life and I 1164 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 3: think he'd probably even agreed with this was a tremendous 1165 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 3: fuck up where he was facing three felony charges while 1166 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 3: he was still in high school and we're beating the 1167 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 3: ship up, beating the ship out of people, including Navy midshipman. 1168 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 2: So we grew up in Baltimore. His dad put him 1169 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,439 Speaker 2: in boxing, very young all. 1170 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 3: That, yeah, yeah, and he was always a good wrestler. 1171 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,720 Speaker 3: In fact, he was supposed to go to the University 1172 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 3: of Nebraska Jordan Burrows, but five time World champion, Olympic 1173 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 3: gold medalist was the guy who recruited him there, and 1174 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 3: and then he was such a fuck up they kicked 1175 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:01,959 Speaker 3: him off the team. 1176 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,760 Speaker 1: He had a bunch of other issues. 1177 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 3: He more or less got right through junior college Iowa Central, 1178 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 3: where John Jones and Lobe Covnton went, and then he 1179 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 3: ended up as an Iowa State cyclone. 1180 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 2: He got didn't he drop out of or get kicked 1181 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 2: out of, like Penn State. Iowa, Iowa State. 1182 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 3: He had all kinds of issues with him, probab but 1183 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: he did reach All American status. He was unseated in 1184 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 3: the I think two thousand, fourteen eleven something like that, 1185 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 3: and c DOAA said he got fits, So he got 1186 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 3: All American status. Then wrestled a little bit on the 1187 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 3: international circuit, the rules a little bit different. He had 1188 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 3: some big wins over some big names, some modest tournaments. 1189 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 3: He won gold at the Pan Ams, which is his 1190 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 3: biggest win to date. But what he's been doing and 1191 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 3: why this is so interesting, is he's not a fuck 1192 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 3: up anymore, but he's got a big mouth. He got 1193 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 3: into a lot of trouble because he was shitting on 1194 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 3: women's wrestling. They kicked him off one of his teams. 1195 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 2: For that too. 1196 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: That was recent, by the way, God he. 1197 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 3: Took on Gordon He took on Gordon Ryan and Nicki Rodriguez, 1198 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 3: two guys who previously Dane her Death Squad. And with 1199 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 3: Gordon Ryan he did on one match all wrestling, then 1200 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 3: another match sub wrestling. He tech falled Gordon Ryan in 1201 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 3: thirty seconds in wrestling, and then he got submitted obviously, 1202 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 3: but he tech falled Nicki Rodriguez and like in like 1203 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:09,919 Speaker 3: thirty seconds again. 1204 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: It was like nothing. 1205 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 4: This is a This is a long way of saying 1206 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 4: this is a great signing. 1207 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: By Beltore because Pat Downey can wrestle. He's he's as. 1208 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,399 Speaker 3: Sick as he have like a pro wrestler persona yeah, 1209 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 3: big time where he has his hair all weird. 1210 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 1: He comes in with weird clothing. He's perfect for the job. 1211 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 3: And by the time he was eighteen, he was knuckling 1212 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 3: people on the fucking sidewalk. So like, this is just 1213 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,919 Speaker 3: the guy you want for for belt or great guy 1214 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 3: to get a middleweight for. 1215 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 2: We should interview, we should get Big Tuna, and he's 1216 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 2: got a fight coming up, Too big Tune that tweets 1217 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 2: me all the time. Would you would you do an 1218 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 2: interview with Big Tuna? 1219 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:42,879 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1220 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 2: From this set, happily happy. 1221 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: Oh, we can put him on the on the screen, 1222 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: do Big toun We should give him some shine anyway, 1223 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: So he's he's got a fight coming up. 1224 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 2: You know, he comes from the mafia, Too Big Tune. 1225 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: Don't ask him questions. 1226 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 2: I know, but it's it's like Middle America mafia. 1227 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: But still you know, yo, how much Majong is? Uh is? 1228 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:03,320 Speaker 1: What's your face? 1229 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,280 Speaker 2: Ashley? 1230 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? Playing right now? 1231 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 2: What you see her? 1232 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 3: Some d This is you right now during in the 1233 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 3: middle of this important show, just mouth breathing, just all 1234 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 3: that oxygen going through there. 1235 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 2: You haven't forgiven her for bringing everybody COVID. Yeah, she 1236 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 2: watched Doc three from But back to what we're talking about. 1237 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 2: I think six is the best doc now. I think 1238 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 2: you know, I haven't seen the finished product. 1239 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: Okay, now that you brought it up, we've seen the 1240 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 1: first two thirds. 1241 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, like twenty somethings. It's excellent, It's tremendous. Excellent, all right, Jake. 1242 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 2: I mean he's he's got, you know, edgy, weird vibes like. 1243 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: You've only got two more of these before you. 1244 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 2: Dude, you don't have to take a ship, you don't 1245 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 2: have another job. What is stopping you from giving the 1246 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 2: people doing a good show. 1247 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 3: Bobby Green versus Nasrat hack Preass, whose name you racistly 1248 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 3: wrote in the emails, I'm teasing you didn't you. 1249 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 2: Did, but you did miss it's not put nasdak five hundred. 1250 00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: No, you didn't, but you didn't mispell it. And you 1251 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: f C two seventy one. 1252 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 3: Bobby Green coming off of a big win hack par Ass, 1253 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 3: the loss to Dan Hooker, this might be do or 1254 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 3: die for hack Brass, so we'll see, right, Yeah, I 1255 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 3: like this fight a lot. I don't love this fight. 1256 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 3: It's a grinder type fight, and I like grinders against 1257 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 3: Bobby Green. You gotta put Bobby Green up a level. 1258 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 3: He shines when you give him like the fights he's 1259 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 3: not supposed to get, and then he kicks everyone. 1260 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 2: He's the new Michael Johnson a little bit, a little 1261 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 2: bit a little better than that maybe. 1262 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 3: And then lastly, this one, you're kind of all over 1263 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,439 Speaker 3: Misha Tate apparently mulling a move to one twenty five. 1264 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 2: Yes, and she got called out instantly by Jessica and Drag. 1265 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: I gotta say, I don't I don't hate that. I 1266 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: don't know. I've done some shows with me. 1267 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,959 Speaker 2: She like, she's I don't know if. 1268 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: She can make one twenty five. She's large. 1269 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 2: I mean, she's a lot more muscular, so she'd have 1270 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 2: to really, I don't you know? That could be dangerous 1271 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,280 Speaker 2: taking off the muscle. But the idea of like Misha 1272 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 2: Tate knows that her brand is enough and she's still 1273 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 2: game enough to to she's probably got one run in her. 1274 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 2: Can it come abandoned weight? Now that Pains turned the 1275 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 2: division upside down and there's gonna be a rematch and 1276 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. This is a strategic path that she 1277 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 2: sort of put out there and said, fans, you know 1278 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 2: what do you think? Which is I go? It's a 1279 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 2: quicker path at one twenty five, but making weight it's 1280 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 2: not going to be easy, and it's probably more difficult 1281 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 2: to fight Valentine at one twenty five than to fight 1282 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 2: Amanda at thirty five. 1283 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 3: Let me ask you about it. Yes, it's in conjunction 1284 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 3: with this, Let me ask you about this, what do 1285 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 3: you make of this recent trend? Hooker for examples this 1286 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 3: way as well. Cody was this way of guys. I 1287 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:21,959 Speaker 3: don't know if Cody did. 1288 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 2: Actually Carboza Aldough using. 1289 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 3: The PI and modern weight cutting systems to get down 1290 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 3: and wait to wait. It's where they can get there, 1291 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 3: and they can get there by the metrics that say 1292 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 3: it's safe, but they perform like shit? 1293 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 2: Do we not what they do? Because it's really hard 1294 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 2: to do, right, I mean, it's really hard to take 1295 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 2: could take that. 1296 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,800 Speaker 3: Many steps to get to your weight, you're gonna be 1297 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 3: like shit by the time you get to your weight. 1298 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 2: Do we not give UFC enough credit in a larger 1299 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 2: fighter pay debate era of like putting that system in 1300 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:49,359 Speaker 2: place for the fighter? 1301 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,839 Speaker 1: I think that I think that system is great. 1302 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 3: I don't have a criticism of it, but I wonder 1303 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,879 Speaker 3: if they've gotten too clever by half, right, I they've 1304 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,879 Speaker 3: gotten so good at teaching people how to cut weight 1305 00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 3: where we can get you to one twenty five or 1306 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 3: whatever way it is safely, Yes, you might be able 1307 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 3: to do that, but if you don't. 1308 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 2: Win, if you don't win in two minutes, your stamina 1309 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 2: is done. 1310 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 3: So I do worry about that a little bit, but 1311 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 3: I guess we'll have to see. That's it for the 1312 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 3: top five right here. 1313 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: Time four. 1314 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 2: There was another one, Luke that that I think that. 1315 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: Oh it was the one that Mikey sent yeah before 1316 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 1: I forget that one. 1317 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 2: So there's a fight announced for March twelfth, Luke, I 1318 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 2: want to get your your your virgin reaction, all right, 1319 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 2: hit me up my head to Thiago Santo's versus Magomed 1320 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 2: and Callive one sugar sex magic kill. 1321 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, Jesus, I love that, are you kid? Unclive? 1322 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,840 Speaker 1: I think it might be a future champion of that division. 1323 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,479 Speaker 1: Uncle Ive is a beast. 1324 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 2: Are you gonna put the same Cyril Gone? Who's that 1325 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 2: the motherfucker that you like a lot? 1326 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: Uh shot cut rock? 1327 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,320 Speaker 2: Yes? Are you gonna put that same level? 1328 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: Like yo? 1329 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 2: Like Uncle Luke's all this ship and it's coming, like 1330 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 2: you're gonna do that right now for for because you 1331 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 2: were right on Cyril Gon, put your put your money 1332 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:01,799 Speaker 2: where your mouth. 1333 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: I think I'll say, I think cal is gonna be 1334 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 1: your probably a future champion of this weak class. Yeah, 1335 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 1: I think so. I think he's gonna wear gold. 1336 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, damn, that fight's gonna bang. Like even if like 1337 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 2: Thiago is dangerous, fight like Thiago should lose that all 1338 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 2: things considered, his age, his streak that he's on. But 1339 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 2: you know he's still got one big fucking devastating knockout 1340 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 2: at him. 1341 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 1: You know that it's amazing is gonna go out? What's 1342 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: gonna be so amazing about on Caliav's game plan? Like 1343 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: I went back and rewatched the Blahovitch fight against Maheta 1344 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: and Belhovich. 1345 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,839 Speaker 3: Dude, I don't even blame him, Like there's lots time 1346 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 3: where he's ducking and dodging and getting the fuck out there. 1347 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean he's like fuck this and I get it. Dude. 1348 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 3: You know on Calive win or lose is going to 1349 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 3: fight him in a way where when it's over, you're like, 1350 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 3: dude on call wasn't the least bit intimidated, Right, You're 1351 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 3: gonna say that, You're gonna say it. 1352 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 1: What's over him? Like, dude on call have didn't fight 1353 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: even remotely scared. 1354 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 2: I do want to say this. Rashad and I one 1355 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 2: time on the old CBS State of Combat podcast, we 1356 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 2: like toads together. We we rate. We gave a ranking 1357 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 2: of our top five most rewatchable UFC fight pass fighters, 1358 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 2: meaning when you're home and you're drinking beer and you're like, oh, 1359 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 2: let me go out fight pass in f round, which 1360 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 2: fighters do you go to first? 1361 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: You know? 1362 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 2: On my list was like Robbie Lawler number one, you know, 1363 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 2: like I mean like sort of obvious guys. I think 1364 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 2: Mahet has got to be in that top five. D 1365 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 2: if you if you watch like that run he had 1366 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 2: in transitioning from middleweight to light heavyweight, These fights are bangers, dude, 1367 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 2: he goes after it. Even the John Jones fight in hindsight, 1368 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 2: Luke was was pretty damn fun. Uh you know an 1369 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 2: action fight. No, no, it wasn't an action fight, but 1370 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 2: there was lingering drama because he would make these runs 1371 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 2: at John where you're like, oh shitty, there's he might 1372 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 2: knock him out. 1373 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I mean here's his run, says a Fajeta 1374 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 3: Honey Mark s Jeriah Hall, Andy n Steve remember the 1375 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 3: Steve boss head kick ko Yes, Jesus Christ. 1376 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 1: That was terrible. 1377 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,839 Speaker 3: Elis Theodoru named Mark or who he viciously kaoed uh. 1378 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 3: He lost to Musase Eric Spiceley, they meet Jack Marshman, 1379 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,520 Speaker 3: Gerald Meershard Jack Romnson, Anthony Smith lost to David Branch, 1380 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 3: beat Kevin holland, Eric Anders, Jimmy man Yanbolhovis then lost 1381 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 3: to Jones to share it and Rakage. Although the Rackage 1382 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 3: one it was thorough but boring, but then he rebounded 1383 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,359 Speaker 3: against Jerry Walker. 1384 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 2: Dude, he's I'm not I'm not making some backward case 1385 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 2: for Hall of Fame, but like, his career is way 1386 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 2: better than I ever gave him credit for. He beat 1387 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 2: way more guys than you think off the top of 1388 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 2: your head, and he bangs man, he goes. 1389 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: He started out, that's funny. 1390 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 3: He started out with Mutanci Serja who's you know, he's 1391 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 3: a good fighter, but he's now in PFL. 1392 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: He's not of that level. And Mutanci had all of 1393 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 1: the at the time, had a lot of hype behind 1394 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 1: from Vitor belfour. Mutanci was one of his guys, and 1395 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,319 Speaker 1: obviously Tago Santo's had some hype from being I think 1396 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,239 Speaker 1: he was in BOPE or wasn't he wasn't he in the. 1397 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 2: Paratroopers group the I don't have this knowledge. 1398 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 1: I believe he was a part of the paratroopers out 1399 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: of Brazil, the special Forces. 1400 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 2: Do you think he wore a cover? 1401 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: He wore one of those beret type joints. 1402 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, So how do you say cover in Portuguese? Good? 1403 00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how would? How would? What's the face? 1404 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: The twenty seven time world champion? What's his face? 1405 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 2: Hey? 1406 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:06,919 Speaker 1: Delta? A guy? What's his face? 1407 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 3: The guy who calls himself the twenty nine times twenty 1408 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 3: seven time world champion? 1409 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 1: No, the Brazilian dude? 1410 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? The guy from Uncle? 1411 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: How would Hanach pronounce it? 1412 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 2: He's a fun following I g dude. 1413 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 3: I met him at Glory's Last Man Standing and he 1414 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 3: is literally as funny in person, if not more so, 1415 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 3: and online he won me over. 1416 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 2: At high Rollers look okay? 1417 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 3: That and that he was walking around Lornja, the guy 1418 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 3: who plays him anyway, was walking around handing out weed to. 1419 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 2: People, being like uncle, I gotcha mental one like Harvey does. 1420 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: The accident that was in Brazilian move that was like 1421 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: that was like Mario from that was like Racistly why 1422 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 1: does it not sound like a racist Italian? I don't know. 1423 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: All right, Well, with that in mind, let's time for 1424 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: dms with dogs. So let's do that. Let's let's put 1425 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 1: that up there. There we go. Well, you know what, 1426 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch. Have you seen this shit without delay? 1427 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a long time since we've done all. 1428 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 3: Right, so I think I've got these. Now let's go 1429 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 3: first from St Jean Kevin Saint Jean Kevin. 1430 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 2: Maybe it's Kevin Saint Geane Luke. 1431 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 1: Could be maybe it's just a fuck face. How great 1432 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:22,959 Speaker 1: was Bob Saggott BC? 1433 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 2: Okay, the obvious answer is he's great, and he's got 1434 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 2: a place in all of our childhoods, whether you loved 1435 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 2: him or thought he was lame, you know, with the 1436 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 2: full house America's Funniest Videos vibe and at sixty even 1437 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 2: at sixty five it feels too soon, but like he 1438 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 2: is a very good comedian, like in his own lane, 1439 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 2: and he's raunchy as shit. And once you in the 1440 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 2: moment that you sort of opened your eyes and realized 1441 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 2: that he became like dirty uncle cool in a way 1442 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 2: that's like Hall of Fame worthy, like he's you know, 1443 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 2: but yet in reality, I didn't love most of his work, 1444 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,439 Speaker 2: like most of it because most of it he played 1445 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 2: you know, sort of that. But when you got to 1446 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 2: see him, like at the cameo in Half Baked his 1447 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 2: all time great. You know, yeah, Dick for Coke. 1448 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 1: I've never I've never seen his uh. 1449 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 2: I mean you know what I'm talking about, Luke. 1450 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:10,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, get off the set. 1451 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 3: I've never I've never seen his stand up, so I'm 1452 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 3: only familiar with what people have said about it. Yeah, 1453 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 3: but you know, there was so many people from so 1454 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 3: many corners of the world who said so many nice 1455 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 3: things about him, which everyone does in their death, but 1456 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 3: this one seemed a little different to me. 1457 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 2: So I remember one time in seventh grade there was 1458 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 2: this weird kid and he was like he was like, yo, 1459 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 2: I saw a Playgirl magazine the other day. We were like, 1460 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 2: you were reading Playgirl. He was like yeah, but he 1461 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 2: was like, there's this article where talking about how big 1462 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,920 Speaker 2: Bob Saggett's dong is And I was just like, I 1463 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 2: don't believe. I don't believe that shit. What were we 1464 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 2: talking about, Shack Right now? We're talking about Uncle Roco. 1465 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 3: No, come on from Aunt Workman fifty four. Luke, how 1466 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 3: are you gonna talk shit about cable management when your 1467 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 3: Christmas tree is up two weeks into January? I don't 1468 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 3: know what is the approach. It's not quite a dead wrong. 1469 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 3: You guy's just kind of grilling me. Here's the thing, 1470 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 3: What is the rule with keeping your tree up? When 1471 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 3: does it go down? 1472 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 2: What's the rule? 1473 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 1: So again after it. So here's my rule on this. 1474 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 3: This is why I do it this way because in 1475 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 3: the city they collect it at the end of January. 1476 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take it out probably this weekend. But that's 1477 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 3: why it's still up, because the city will come get it, 1478 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 3: but not till the end of the month, and I 1479 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 3: just want to leave it out there in the alleyway. 1480 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 2: So I think that's reasonable, right, that's fair. One year 1481 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 2: I got a real one and it smelt like five 1482 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 2: times as strong as normal. You normally have a fake one, yeah, 1483 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 2: because I have cats and stuff, but we had I. 1484 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 1: Had a real one for a bunch of I that's 1485 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 1: what I gotta do. 1486 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 2: It's just the issues se mess did you put tinsel? 1487 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 2: My son's got as muney. He's allergic to the that's 1488 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 2: the main reason. But when I had the real one, 1489 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 2: it smelt like five times as strong as normal. So 1490 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 2: I left it up until late March because it was 1491 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 2: like this giant air fresher in the corner of the room. 1492 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 2: Was great. 1493 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 3: At one time when I was single, I did get 1494 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 3: a Christmas small Christmas tree from my yard or sorry, 1495 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 3: my house, and then when it was Christmas is over, 1496 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 3: I just chucked it in the yard and forgot about it. 1497 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 2: Do you have like giant like I can imagine the 1498 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 2: front of your house was having like a giant black flag. 1499 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 2: This's is like pow on it? Where's people walk by 1500 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 2: the just like, oh man, the fucking guy right like 1501 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 2: why would I have a I could see before your 1502 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 2: what your lovely wife cleaned you up and you were 1503 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 2: probably like did you have all like black sheets and 1504 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 2: you know, no like. 1505 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 1: As like uh like the black out side windows. No, no, no, 1506 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: no no no no never no that was my pad. 1507 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,479 Speaker 1: Was not cool, but it wasn't bad. 1508 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 2: It was I mean, you did go to a shooting 1509 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 2: range on your first day with your wife. 1510 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she fucking married me the right call? Uh 1511 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 3: all right, anyway, yes, but she's coming the tree's coming down, 1512 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 3: so fuck you? 1513 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 2: All right? 1514 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 3: From I'm ed Haiti ninety five. At the risk of 1515 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 3: sounding like I'm dissing Caesar Gracie, do you think Nick 1516 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 3: Diaz could have been a UFC championship level fighter or 1517 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 3: downright a champion under a different coach, who would have 1518 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 3: been a good fit given a style. 1519 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely fucking not, no, no, no chance. 1520 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 3: Caesar Gracie has a deep bond with them, both Diaz brothers. 1521 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 3: Both the brothers are not gonna move to fucking Florida 1522 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:08,439 Speaker 3: for their camp. 1523 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 1: That ain't happening. 1524 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 2: And they'd kill Yeah, they would fucking kill for no. 1525 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,439 Speaker 2: But here's the deal. Is that question implying Nick's lack 1526 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 2: of evolution because he did sort of stop fighting at 1527 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 2: one point, right, Like the. 1528 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 3: Point The reason why that's wrong is that Nick Diaz 1529 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 3: for a long time the bleeding edge of evolution. He 1530 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,080 Speaker 3: had a very good guard, a very good jiu jitsu 1531 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 3: in ways a lot of guys didn't. 1532 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 1: So it wasn't just that he had more jiu JITs. 1533 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 1: We had better and had a better impact on his game. 1534 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 3: And he was the beginning of let's put some boxing 1535 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 3: skill in some MMA fights. 1536 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: Guys have copied that he was one of the first. 1537 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 3: Ones to do it, and Diaz as well, So, like, 1538 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 3: you know what, did he have the best skill set 1539 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 3: to beat the very best fighters of his generation even 1540 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 3: in his prime? No, no, he couldn't be gsp and 1541 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 3: some other ones, but he in many ways was an 1542 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 3: extremely important contributor to the development of mixed martial arts 1543 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 3: over the last ten or fifteen years. 1544 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 2: His run through Strikeforce becoming a sort of global success 1545 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 2: was so much fun. Do you remember when we filmed 1546 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 2: those Strikeforce weren't combat classics at the beginning of the 1547 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 2: pandemic with Moro, Ronaldo and Scott Coker, and now they're 1548 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 2: nowhere to be found. 1549 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. We're on the app for like six minutes. 1550 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 2: I was at Showbox this weekend in Orlando having dinner 1551 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 2: next to the guy who happens to be the one 1552 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 2: who populates the app ah, and I was like, dude, 1553 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 2: where are these shows. He's like, no, they're out there. 1554 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, they're not out there. He's going to 1555 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 2: plug them back in when these get in. These are 1556 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 2: these were fun. They were fun. 1557 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 1: It was great. 1558 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 2: There's are really good shows to look back on. 1559 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we did a lot of Nick Diaz. 1560 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 3: Like Nick Dias was undefeated in Strikeforce, Folks forget that 1561 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 3: he had a great. 1562 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 2: One and this is these shows are rewatching the fights 1563 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 2: and then commentary from Moro Coker, the two of us. 1564 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 3: It's their memories and stuff. Yeah, that's fun, all right. 1565 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 3: From at Saint John Underscore CA. So I guess uh 1566 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 3: Canada somewhere. What is next for showbox fighters? Nunez fought 1567 01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 3: twice on Showbox. Would you fight a third time? 1568 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 1: Become a prelim fighter or Showtime Championship Boxing car or 1569 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 1: become a contender? So folks are asking, how does it work? 1570 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 1: How do you graduate from showbox to Showtime Championship Boxing. 1571 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 2: There's usually a couple fight window that we've seen, Like 1572 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 2: even you know, drown Boutsennas two years ago was like 1573 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 2: the featured showbox guy a couple times. 1574 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 1: In a row, you know, grandually, I think thought two 1575 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 1: or three times. 1576 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes that sort of becomes where you're you're it's it's 1577 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 2: really how long are you in that transitional period? But 1578 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 2: you love about showboxes. It's, you know, at its best, 1579 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 2: it's putting unbeaten prospect against some beating prospect and it's 1580 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 2: sort of the first time in their career in the 1581 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 2: theory that they're really stepping up to somebody on their 1582 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 2: level to find out if they're title ready, and sometimes 1583 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 2: they're title ready right in that victory. Sometimes that victory 1584 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 2: is the breakthrough moment. Sometimes that window of sort of 1585 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 2: figuring it out is a couple of fights, So it 1586 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 2: depends on the fighter. But uh, that's two good ones 1587 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 2: in a row. For Luis Nunie is on Showbox, so 1588 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 2: I'd like to see what my graduate on that level 1589 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,120 Speaker 2: it could he could? He could? 1590 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 1: You know? 1591 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 3: And also like for folks who been to understand like 1592 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,440 Speaker 3: what the significance could be. The best way I could 1593 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 3: explain it was remember like four or five years ago 1594 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 3: where one of the best places you could be on 1595 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 3: a card if you were not on the main event 1596 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 3: was he you could be the. 1597 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 1: Main event prelim, the prelimin event. 1598 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 3: The one right, yes, or what you could do is 1599 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 3: you could be the the main event fight on fight Pass. 1600 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 3: Remember that they would put a lot of like interesting 1601 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 3: extra buzz into you for that, so you were not 1602 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 3: featured alongside the very best. But you know, Brandon Lee 1603 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 3: on the Showtime a YouTube channel has a ton of 1604 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 3: different feature pieces about him by virtue of being in 1605 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 3: a main event slot on Showbox and then he's out 1606 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 3: graduated to Showtime Championship Boxing. 1607 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 1: So there you go. 1608 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 3: Last but at least me. See, I haven't thought about 1609 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 3: this one too much. From X Man mex. 1610 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:37,640 Speaker 1: Some Mexican guy. 1611 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 2: So he's a Mexican superhero fan. 1612 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 1: Or maybe he transitioned to being a woman, but he's 1613 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 1: still Mexican. That's the thing. You can go from male 1614 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 1: to female, female to male, but you're staying. 1615 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 2: Well if you remove the exes on the outside the 1616 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 2: middle says man. Me. So I think he's still I 1617 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,040 Speaker 2: think there's like this. It doesn't the X mean like 1618 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 2: this is hidden man code right here? Yeah? 1619 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 1: I like how the first thing you thought was man man. 1620 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 1: So that's what BC says. 1621 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 2: It's a bartender man Me, yes, yes, all right? Who's manscape? Me? 1622 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 1: Manscape? My fialthy genitals? Who's winning the Super Bowl? B? 1623 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm not. I was plugged in three four weeks ago. 1624 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:24,320 Speaker 2: I was watch no last I had been ever since 1625 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 2: I went to that Patriots game when Mac Jones had 1626 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 2: that that great hilarious I went on a nice run 1627 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 2: of watching the NFL again. Watching the Patriots run, I think, 1628 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 2: still right now, you got to back the Chiefs. Is 1629 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:38,479 Speaker 2: it going to be Chiefs? 1630 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 1: Bucks? 1631 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 2: Who's it going to be? 1632 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 1: Anybody here? Watch football? Packer's her favorites, didn't they lose yesterday? 1633 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 1: But it was the JV squad though, Right, how much. 1634 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,440 Speaker 2: Does COVID have have a say in the Packers chance 1635 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 2: that winning over? 1636 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 1: I don't know COVID. 1637 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 3: Well, COVID should be dying down. This wave or whatever 1638 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,840 Speaker 3: should be dying down. But when's the super Bowl? First 1639 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,520 Speaker 3: week of February? Right, Yeah, it should be coming to 1640 01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 3: a relative close this. 1641 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,040 Speaker 2: You think Tom Brady could play the super Bowl after 1642 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,800 Speaker 2: getting injected with only crown the day before. 1643 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure he tried, and and Als Guerrero would try. 1644 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,040 Speaker 1: I'll say Packers. And then, uh, who's the big team 1645 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 1: of the a f C. 1646 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,720 Speaker 2: Well, Tennessee thinks they are. They're not. They're not. 1647 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 1: Do they have Derrick Henry? Oh he's back now? 1648 01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean he is the Boogeyman? Yeah, yeah he is. 1649 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 2: The Chiefs have the a f C. I'm locked out 1650 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 2: right now? 1651 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,440 Speaker 1: Did the Chiefs? I know they had like a shitty 1652 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 1: middle part of their season. Have they recovered? They're better? Now? Okay? 1653 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,400 Speaker 1: All right, we'll see what happens with the playoffs. 1654 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 2: I'll go there's nothing worse than you guys who barely 1655 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 2: have been watching this. Yeah, your make declarative statements and analysis. 1656 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 3: The only take I have is February second, wheny're going 1657 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 3: to announce the new Washington football team name. 1658 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 2: That's all right, let's talk about it. Can we talk 1659 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 2: about the how do you want to make a whole 1660 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 2: separate clip with this, because yeah, we could do it. 1661 01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 2: We can talk about you're way off in the names, 1662 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 2: aren't You don't? 1663 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 1: Okay, stand DC and you're making. 1664 01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 2: Here's the national stuff. But unless you got tattooed, you 1665 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 2: can't have ros don't. I'll explain the metropolis, this franchise 1666 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 2: lover hate. The name has lineage and legacy and success. 1667 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,559 Speaker 2: So to put something like the Gladiators or the Red 1668 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 2: Dragons or what kind of ship were you? You were 1669 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:24,720 Speaker 2: into all this? Like you were into all this? The 1670 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,880 Speaker 2: Cleveland Indians are gonna be the Cleveland one Guardian. That's 1671 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 2: that's that's lame. 1672 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 1: As ship, Luke, Is it better than the racist? 1673 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,560 Speaker 2: I'm not saying stick with Indians? Okay, I'm not saying that, 1674 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 2: all right, I'm. 1675 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:37,840 Speaker 1: Saying here here are the name. So I want you 1676 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,000 Speaker 1: to go thumbs up, thumbs down. 1677 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,640 Speaker 2: I'm saying you mentioned as a possible name, and you 1678 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 2: were like you know, You're like, it should be the 1679 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,640 Speaker 2: Red Dragons, bitch. I'm like, what is this lacrosse? Like, No, Luke, No, 1680 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,639 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. The Smile League Baseball, 1681 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna let's call it. You are no, tell me 1682 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,639 Speaker 2: as a as a fan of a team with legacy 1683 01:08:58,720 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 2: and tradition. 1684 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:00,640 Speaker 1: Well, they kicked off the day. 1685 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,720 Speaker 2: I will explain to you. You didn't listen to the 1686 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 2: Presidents is d C. 1687 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,600 Speaker 3: No, it's not, dude, that's a part of DC that 1688 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,599 Speaker 3: people who don't understand DC think it's part of DC. 1689 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:08,920 Speaker 1: That's not. 1690 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 2: We're like, I want to focus on the crime. 1691 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 1: Dude, Dude, the guy who occupies a Trump by whoever. 1692 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:14,600 Speaker 1: They're not d C. 1693 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,920 Speaker 2: They just sit there for four Washington bullets that. 1694 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 1: They change it, and I'm like, what the fuck you 1695 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:22,680 Speaker 1: change that name for? 1696 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,599 Speaker 3: All Right, there are the choices. Let's go through these 1697 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,680 Speaker 3: very quickly. Number one, Armada, worst choice ever. Armada is 1698 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,639 Speaker 3: just Spanish for navy. You got the Washington Navy. 1699 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 2: That's basically see that's like an MLS level name right there. 1700 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a horrible name. Next is presidents and I 1701 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 3: have gone on the record. If they go with President. 1702 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 2: See this is my this is my beef. Let's stop here. 1703 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 2: Let's stop here. Presidents is DC, Like, I'm not saying 1704 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:46,719 Speaker 2: it's not Corny's. 1705 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: You're gonna name your football team after a version of 1706 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 1: government ball. 1707 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 2: What a jack offer idea that Washington Nationals is a 1708 01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 2: strong I'm the I'm the Federal Court report two or false. 1709 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 2: Washington Nationals the baseball team is a strong name that 1710 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:09,240 Speaker 2: represents our country. The name sucks. So you want Washington 1711 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:09,920 Speaker 2: Guardians like that. 1712 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:14,679 Speaker 1: I don't want you back to your arm armada down. 1713 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 1: President's two thumbs down. 1714 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,439 Speaker 2: Dude, Presidents is the best one. President is the Henry 1715 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 2: Shudo in this debate brigade. It is a little bit 1716 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 2: old man World War two field, so I could come 1717 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:31,559 Speaker 2: sway back to it. Defenders, No, that's okay, that's okay, okay, 1718 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 2: because you're in theory. Washington is the set, you know, 1719 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 2: the brain of our country, the center of the heart 1720 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:43,400 Speaker 2: and soul. That that's where the military commanders. If you 1721 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 2: had to, Yes, it's way better than any of the 1722 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 2: ones you've liked, but it's still below part. 1723 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,240 Speaker 1: Keeping Washington football team like not changing it like that. 1724 01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,559 Speaker 2: See that's also very I'm trying to be you. I'm trying, 1725 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 2: you know, trying to. 1726 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,200 Speaker 3: Be And then the last two are red Hogs and 1727 01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,680 Speaker 3: red Wolves. Now the red Hogs is the best one. 1728 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 3: Red Hogs, that's amazing. 1729 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 2: Hold on, I mean, I get the offensive Lineman reference, 1730 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,400 Speaker 2: but that's what But I think you know red hogs. 1731 01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:12,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, like a dog's dick, like President's 1732 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 2: dog when it gets all erect, its gross. Oh wow, dude, commention. 1733 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,840 Speaker 1: If they named him after that, and that was the 1734 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 1: logo on the helmet, was just a dog getting a 1735 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 1: pink erection. All right, red Wolves is out. Red Wolves 1736 01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 1: is out because they already said it's out, like said 1737 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 1: wolf here is Jesus, motherfucking God. Here's why I don't 1738 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 1: want President's Brigade commanders or any of that, because these 1739 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,560 Speaker 1: are inherently military inspired names. Brigade ar Mada commanders that 1740 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 1: kind of a shit, defenders less. So, but with that, 1741 01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,840 Speaker 1: you have to understand who owns the fucking team. Dude, 1742 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder owns the fucking team. He's gonna fuck this 1743 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,680 Speaker 1: up if you give him a military tie into this. 1744 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 3: Do you understand what's gonna be happening at these games? 1745 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 3: And how much the military is going to be a 1746 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 3: part of the NFL when it has no business and 1747 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,679 Speaker 3: all of the extra money. That's okay, dude, I don't 1748 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 3: want any part of that. I don't want Daniel Sider 1749 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:06,440 Speaker 3: touching the military. 1750 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,360 Speaker 2: Because he's gonna come out. He's gonna come out selling 1751 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:09,960 Speaker 2: like Redskins covers. 1752 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,320 Speaker 1: Right whatever the fu yeah covers. 1753 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, it's gonna be terrible that stance. I respect, 1754 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,040 Speaker 2: But your support before of like red Wolves, Like, dude, seriously, 1755 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:22,320 Speaker 2: what is this? Like you you think like the Second 1756 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:22,920 Speaker 2: League hockey? 1757 01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 1: You think that I think that red Wolves is a 1758 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 1: great name. I don't. 1759 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,600 Speaker 2: I think that the rest of them guess what it 1760 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 2: should be. Then if you don't want to do any 1761 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,479 Speaker 2: military connection, I get it, Presidents, that's DC bro. 1762 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm the Secretary of staying. Everyone suck my deck. 1763 01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 1: I a touchdown. 1764 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,519 Speaker 2: It's the worst idea. It's it's classy in class I'm 1765 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,240 Speaker 2: the ambassadors in boy. Seriously, ex Redskins fans because everybody 1766 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,040 Speaker 2: agrees with the team name shouldn't be there. But there's 1767 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,439 Speaker 2: also it's hard to pull away from the nickname because 1768 01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:52,200 Speaker 2: of the tradition and history. Presidents has that that royal if. 1769 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 3: They if they go with the presidents, they're your team 1770 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,000 Speaker 3: and I'm out because I'm not a door. 1771 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 1: So fuck that team. 1772 01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,679 Speaker 2: Hey, if we can get the red Wolves in, yeah, 1773 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 2: it's better than the president. Okay, but you this morning 1774 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,040 Speaker 2: you did say Washington FC would not be bad. 1775 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:09,680 Speaker 4: You said that, dude, relative to fucking press the Armada 1776 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,640 Speaker 4: if they call them the Denina, the pre time, the 1777 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,080 Speaker 4: Santa Maria, the worst idea ever. 1778 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:23,639 Speaker 1: Fuck that ship anyway. Let's watch your ship, all right? 1779 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,920 Speaker 2: Every Monday, we put together a collection of obaita. 1780 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:29,960 Speaker 3: Let me see you show a hands. I'm not saying 1781 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,120 Speaker 3: these names are good. Who as their number one choice? 1782 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:33,439 Speaker 2: Likes? 1783 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:37,480 Speaker 1: Presidents? Get them up there, the Washington presidents. 1784 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 2: Get them up there. 1785 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,280 Speaker 1: Please let me see. I can't see you show me. 1786 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:45,760 Speaker 2: Your hogs one no zero, I'd approve. Can Mark shoot 1787 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 2: the can we What do you think? 1788 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:53,960 Speaker 1: What's your number one choice? Command Okay, I can look. 1789 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 2: At you, look at documentary commanders. 1790 01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,479 Speaker 1: You can live with commanders. Ashley's like they should be 1791 01:13:58,520 --> 01:13:59,720 Speaker 1: the white Chicks and Speller with a. 1792 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,200 Speaker 2: She did say that's her favorite movie. 1793 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,679 Speaker 1: She literally goes, that's that's the peak of cinema. 1794 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 2: White chicks. 1795 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 1: I was like, word, yeah, too many? 1796 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, So we we scour the globe, Luke, for 1797 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 2: the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly, 1798 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,400 Speaker 2: lium between from combat sports and beyond. This is called 1799 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 2: have you seen this ship? H oh? Go on? Okay, uh, Luke, 1800 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,280 Speaker 2: you gave me you're false. You texted me about ideas 1801 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 2: for today's show, and the one thing you were like, no, 1802 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 2: Jake Paul I did say that. Okay, Well let's hey, 1803 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:50,759 Speaker 2: we got Jake paul in this second. 1804 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:53,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna put it up here so I can see 1805 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:54,200 Speaker 1: her now A. 1806 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:58,040 Speaker 2: Day one MM a training video that showed him twice 1807 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,920 Speaker 2: throwing out leg ca Luke, is this a teaser to 1808 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:03,480 Speaker 2: the fans for the future. 1809 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 1: To the next clip? 1810 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah right, God, can we any chance we can here? 1811 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,559 Speaker 1: We go? Yeah? I mean these are just standard day 1812 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 1: one leg kicks. 1813 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, so this isn't anything more than this. 1814 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:15,280 Speaker 1: No, it's nothing. 1815 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,040 Speaker 2: This is not him telling you because. 1816 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 1: Scott, but this isn't a demonstration of any kind. 1817 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 2: Three days ago, Scott Cooker said publicly we'd love to sign. 1818 01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,479 Speaker 1: Him from he might. I'm not listen. I don't know 1819 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,400 Speaker 1: what the is gonna happen. But uh no, these are 1820 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,280 Speaker 1: just all right. 1821 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:29,839 Speaker 2: Let's wait till this conversation. 1822 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:31,679 Speaker 1: Probably that's important. 1823 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 2: Not this all right? Boxing from Santa fe Argentina. Luke, 1824 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 2: you may have seen this earlier Featherway to Lexis Ribosio 1825 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,759 Speaker 2: and proven to two and oh five seconds ago. Oh god, 1826 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:42,880 Speaker 2: you see that left hook? 1827 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 1: Left hook? Was? What round? Is this? First round? Two? 1828 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 2: This is not? 1829 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,200 Speaker 1: Where did they get this guy from the pizza parlor? 1830 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1831 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 1: Is that? No? 1832 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 2: Okay, let's see a replay of this, Luke. 1833 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,439 Speaker 1: Hey, I know you were bagging groceries earlier to Can 1834 01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 1: you come fist fight this dude? 1835 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,639 Speaker 2: If we can get an opponent who also can drive 1836 01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,280 Speaker 2: the uber home, that'd be great. All right, there you go, hey, Luke. 1837 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,280 Speaker 2: There's all kinds of celebrity commercials on Instagram these days. 1838 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,080 Speaker 2: Montana Dala Rosa now has a a deal to selling 1839 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:19,439 Speaker 2: bedside gun safes. Your thoughts, Luke, this was a paid 1840 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,080 Speaker 2: ad on her ig. Is this kind of hot or what? 1841 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 1: You know? 1842 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,720 Speaker 3: He was storming the capitol in January six right, so 1843 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 3: he's all about about it. Listen, gun safes are a 1844 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,600 Speaker 3: good thing. It's a good thing, but I usually I 1845 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,600 Speaker 3: didn't grow up with gun safes this way. We had 1846 01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 3: a gun safe in the house that was put away 1847 01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,160 Speaker 3: and it was locked in multiple locks on it. 1848 01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,400 Speaker 2: I bet your dad like old like weird rifles, wild. 1849 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 3: Stepdad had a bunch of guns and and he died. 1850 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:55,040 Speaker 3: He he had ridiculous gun control safety. So like putting 1851 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,720 Speaker 3: it bedside for me? You know that's a little bit 1852 01:16:59,439 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 3: that's not for me. 1853 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:01,920 Speaker 2: Okay, what would be the line because you know, we 1854 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,080 Speaker 2: sold some products on this show before, Like, is there 1855 01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:05,240 Speaker 2: anything that you wouldn't sell? 1856 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll hoard up for the checks. I doesn't 1857 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:09,200 Speaker 1: you know. 1858 01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 2: I mean if we if if if Montana could reach 1859 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,639 Speaker 2: out to them and say, hey, maybe MK could sell 1860 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:19,080 Speaker 2: these bad I would go back on my all Right, Hey, look, 1861 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 2: you're always saying that we like elder abuse. There's there's 1862 01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,080 Speaker 2: a lot of talk that there's not say I say, 1863 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,280 Speaker 2: there's a lot of talk that there's not enough child 1864 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,040 Speaker 2: abuse on this show. So let's sell along this last look. 1865 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 2: Can we go full screen? 1866 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:31,200 Speaker 1: No, that's one. 1867 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,000 Speaker 2: This is always dangerous, Luke, I mean you gotta ah, Okay, 1868 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,560 Speaker 2: you know that wasn't that hard. Look, let's go to 1869 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 2: the UK. This is some palace guards on the way 1870 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 2: back to our Wait, could you go back for one second? 1871 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:46,760 Speaker 1: Old On, I know you've just started this, but please, 1872 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:47,639 Speaker 1: for just one second. 1873 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:54,559 Speaker 3: Just roll this dude. Children are fucking stupid. My daughter 1874 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,240 Speaker 3: loves the swing, right, and I'll push her on the swing. 1875 01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 4: I have to. 1876 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,160 Speaker 1: When I pushed my daughter at the the park, I 1877 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:02,519 Speaker 1: have to push her on the swing. 1878 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,960 Speaker 3: And I have to run interference for all the fucking 1879 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 3: moron children who think running in front of my daughter 1880 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,439 Speaker 3: is a good idea. When she's coming at them full 1881 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 3: fucking blast off the swing, She's like, Harold, you have kids. 1882 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,360 Speaker 1: I have set into fucking orbit with my daughter hunting them. 1883 01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 2: Just ye, get the fuck out of the way, all right, child. 1884 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,599 Speaker 2: The Beast Number two takes us to England. Luke, watch 1885 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,639 Speaker 2: these guards closely. Can we go full screen on this? Please? 1886 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:29,479 Speaker 1: Have you been to London? 1887 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:29,640 Speaker 2: No? 1888 01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,559 Speaker 1: I can't watch them. The beef Eaters do all this ship. 1889 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 2: I can't wait. You gotta corral your kids. 1890 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,519 Speaker 1: He just he just stepped on his home. 1891 01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,840 Speaker 2: No, he stomped on this kid. Dude. 1892 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 4: That was like alan Iah was, Yeah, it was you. 1893 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,200 Speaker 1: Just score against the Lakers. What the fuck? 1894 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,519 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the don't play around with 1895 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:51,840 Speaker 2: that the indoor playscape. 1896 01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,000 Speaker 3: Luke, you ever talk to people who do you're in 1897 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:55,200 Speaker 3: the reserves, You ever talk to people who do? 1898 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:55,439 Speaker 1: Uh? 1899 01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,240 Speaker 2: Here we go full screen on this too. 1900 01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 1: Have you I said this to you? The guys they'll 1901 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:04,640 Speaker 1: do it. 1902 01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,599 Speaker 2: Look at many blessed, they'll. 1903 01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:07,760 Speaker 1: Do it in hurricanes, they'll do it. 1904 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:08,200 Speaker 2: They don't. 1905 01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,679 Speaker 3: They don't stop at any Yeah, they're fucking they're they're 1906 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:12,439 Speaker 3: hardcore about it. 1907 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,960 Speaker 2: Okay, one more, Luke on child abuse. Here, you got 1908 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,240 Speaker 2: to watch doing these you know, TikTok stunts. You can 1909 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 2: take one of the pillars. Yeah, coming, that kid had 1910 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:26,720 Speaker 2: it coming, right, that kid? 1911 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:27,320 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? 1912 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,960 Speaker 2: All right? Uh Luke. Luckily we still have some time 1913 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,040 Speaker 2: in this show for elder abuse. Roll the tape. Here 1914 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 2: we go. 1915 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:32,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 1916 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 2: Senior citizens in virtual reality, Luke, it's the latest trend. 1917 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 1: Who was the. 1918 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you gotta go full screen the people 1919 01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,000 Speaker 2: and you get old. Have you know old people? 1920 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:49,639 Speaker 1: They false? The old people have bad breakfalls, do they not? Yeah? 1921 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:54,080 Speaker 2: They don't have no bro, all right, Uh. 1922 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,320 Speaker 1: They got the worst breakfalls on Earth. 1923 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 2: I know you may ask what happens if old guys 1924 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:10,040 Speaker 2: try virtual reality? No, no, oh my god. Right, hey, Luke, 1925 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:10,880 Speaker 2: I'll tell you the truth. 1926 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to give. 1927 01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,120 Speaker 2: These old folks ain't much better on mopeds, Luke, I'll 1928 01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:16,360 Speaker 2: tell you. 1929 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:26,439 Speaker 3: That, dude, that's like watching Luca go over the thing 1930 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:31,360 Speaker 3: until oh wow, yeah, yeah, that's she got some saddlebags, 1931 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 3: you know. 1932 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,360 Speaker 1: Once that thing starts bearing off course, that's hard to 1933 01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:36,680 Speaker 1: keep on. 1934 01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,720 Speaker 2: Uh, let's go to the next one, Luke, this is 1935 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,479 Speaker 2: a Wendy, sir. I mean, come on, let's check this out. 1936 01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:44,960 Speaker 1: Can you blow this up? 1937 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 2: Is this a bachelor party at a fast food joint? 1938 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:49,479 Speaker 2: Are we just hanging out in front of you? 1939 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:51,000 Speaker 1: How is this not racist? 1940 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:55,639 Speaker 2: That is that's how is this not racing? Yeah? That's 1941 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,000 Speaker 2: not that's not It's not our finest moment, Luke. Let's 1942 01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,640 Speaker 2: keep it going. I think they call this a Beancock. 1943 01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 2: Would you be interested, Luke? Oh god right, yeah, I 1944 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,120 Speaker 2: mean it combined some of your favorite things of all time, 1945 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:15,320 Speaker 2: but not like together. Yeah, hey, Luke, let's head on 1946 01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,960 Speaker 2: over to the voting booth ahead of November? Can we 1947 01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,160 Speaker 2: zoom in here? I think this is called poll watching. 1948 01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,200 Speaker 1: Just urinating all over the voting machine. This is what 1949 01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:28,240 Speaker 1: I think of democracy. 1950 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Hey, Luke, we want a big award. It's 1951 01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,880 Speaker 2: you know, rightfully to celebrate here, celebrate the new year, 1952 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 2: celebrate your podcast award. Just be careful with oh no, 1953 01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:45,760 Speaker 2: can you go for you gotta go full on this. 1954 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,360 Speaker 2: I mean the people just look at her face afterwards, Luke, 1955 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:54,559 Speaker 2: was this you at prom? 1956 01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:55,479 Speaker 1: Oh? 1957 01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:55,840 Speaker 2: Boy? 1958 01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,000 Speaker 1: Was this your date at prom? Uh? 1959 01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,280 Speaker 2: You mean after the yeah? Wow? All right, Luke, let's 1960 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,080 Speaker 2: go how about some fighting here? A lot to talk 1961 01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 2: about this jesuits move here? This reversal? Can you? 1962 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,160 Speaker 1: I mean, basically what he does is he this is uh? 1963 01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,519 Speaker 3: Watch he'll basically just reverse out of this by going 1964 01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 3: backwards with his flip. He holds the head and then 1965 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:17,720 Speaker 3: comes back around the other side. 1966 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:18,360 Speaker 2: What do you call that? 1967 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. A dirty hooker, Sure, 1968 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,280 Speaker 1: a dirty hooker. Yep, that's what they call that at 1969 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:26,640 Speaker 1: all the. 1970 01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,560 Speaker 2: Mats look first, the first rule of improv is, you know, 1971 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,719 Speaker 2: never say no. Don't start out with a terrible joke. Okay, 1972 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,920 Speaker 2: all right, Hey, let's go over to We love the 1973 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,720 Speaker 2: Old Guy fights in mm A. But I'm not sure 1974 01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:41,400 Speaker 2: about this, Luke. What is it? I mean, what are 1975 01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,760 Speaker 2: we look at the tats of that guy. 1976 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:48,160 Speaker 3: Right, the fuck is this man? Is this some squid 1977 01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,080 Speaker 3: game ship? They get out their like the cell phone 1978 01:22:51,120 --> 01:23:00,240 Speaker 3: bill again, the old people, jippy break fall. 1979 01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:02,640 Speaker 2: Let's get some younger people in here. Let's see this 1980 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:04,400 Speaker 2: karate Ko of the week, Luke. 1981 01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:11,280 Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, dude, that was like she just stopped 1982 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:12,559 Speaker 3: in an exclamatory way. 1983 01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 2: Definitely Team Eagle Fang. I know you're not watching Cobra Kai, Luke, 1984 01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:19,640 Speaker 2: but wow, that is great the lives of teenagers. Yeah, hey, 1985 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,200 Speaker 2: let's play one with some volume. Did you see drunk 1986 01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,960 Speaker 2: Canelo doing karaoke with f one driver Max? For staping, 1987 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:27,120 Speaker 2: for stopping? 1988 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,000 Speaker 1: He is feeling it? 1989 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,439 Speaker 2: Is he Tom Brady level drunk? Right there? 1990 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,439 Speaker 1: Not quite? Not quite? They didn't have to hold him up. 1991 01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,240 Speaker 2: I was born for this. Get fucked up, right, that's 1992 01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,000 Speaker 2: really what he was doing? 1993 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,559 Speaker 1: Close talking drunk, yes, stage before then? 1994 01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, hey, Luke, the Houston Rockets is a 1995 01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,240 Speaker 2: true story. Have for a new delicacy, jumbo mac and 1996 01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:11,799 Speaker 2: cheese dog with fruit loops and bacon? Would you Jumbo 1997 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,479 Speaker 2: mac and cheese hot dog with mac and cheese. 1998 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,560 Speaker 1: They put mac and cheese, bacon and fruit loops on it. 1999 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:22,240 Speaker 2: It's kind of it's kind of interesting, right, No, I'm not, No, 2000 01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:24,880 Speaker 2: I'm not. 2001 01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2002 01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,760 Speaker 2: Just like you like contemplating anal, You're like, well, you know, 2003 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:36,240 Speaker 2: I'm like that fat chick is like oh god, yeah, 2004 01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,800 Speaker 2: all right, hey look how about some drunk chicks? Right, 2005 01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,640 Speaker 2: that's a people pleaser, that's what that's what they can. 2006 01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:46,439 Speaker 2: Let's go to the diving board. H yeah, I mean 2007 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,600 Speaker 2: that's easy, right. You know, she's had the time of 2008 01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:49,120 Speaker 2: her life. 2009 01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:52,599 Speaker 1: Dude. This is the that again. She is the official 2010 01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,040 Speaker 1: summer of white Claw right here there. 2011 01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:58,120 Speaker 2: It is there. It is nobody Luke puts baby in 2012 01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:02,120 Speaker 2: a corner, and nobody gives baby cte either, Luke. Oh, 2013 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,479 Speaker 2: they keep doing this one, Yeah, they keep doing. 2014 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,519 Speaker 1: They just don't ever learn how fun on the pavement? 2015 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,639 Speaker 2: Yea naked? 2016 01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:09,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, naked. 2017 01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:12,840 Speaker 2: That reminds me of that scene in Better Off Dead 2018 01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,800 Speaker 2: in the uh in the cafeteria when that chicks on 2019 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,640 Speaker 2: roller skates. You know, you know, I'm going, all right, 2020 01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,479 Speaker 2: let's go to uh. Look, this isn't me breaking the 2021 01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,080 Speaker 2: National League record by sneaking six cans of Budweiser into 2022 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,479 Speaker 2: the two thousand NLCS Mets Cardinals. 2023 01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,160 Speaker 1: But this is how have I not married this person. 2024 01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's three bottles. 2025 01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:39,000 Speaker 1: That's impressive. What's the most you've ever shoplifted? Its size? 2026 01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,320 Speaker 2: Not in terms of uh, I mean, yeah, that's this. 2027 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:43,120 Speaker 2: I don't you know. 2028 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,680 Speaker 1: I took a two liter bottle once in a winter coat. 2029 01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,200 Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna have a real story, like 2030 01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 2: you know, I stole a diamond bracelet, you know. Yeah? 2031 01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,840 Speaker 2: All right, hey, balloon art of the week, Luke. You 2032 01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:57,559 Speaker 2: can see anything on the subway these days. 2033 01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:01,880 Speaker 1: You sure can blow it up with fuck all, y'all, 2034 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:02,880 Speaker 1: let's fuck. 2035 01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,519 Speaker 2: I think it says fuck all day, Luke. I think 2036 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,680 Speaker 2: that's actually what it says. Is that what it says? Yeah, yeah, 2037 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,840 Speaker 2: I don't have my glass. What party did he get 2038 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:12,519 Speaker 2: those at? Luke? 2039 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,479 Speaker 1: Well, it looks like it's a little bit of arts 2040 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,519 Speaker 1: and crafts, is there? The best part is what's the 2041 01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:20,680 Speaker 1: bodega that sells this? 2042 01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,679 Speaker 2: Do you think street people have like orgies? 2043 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,800 Speaker 1: I've seen condoms in the street. We've talked about this. 2044 01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,759 Speaker 2: All right, Luke. There's nothing like a good deadlift fail. 2045 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,479 Speaker 2: Let's bring that back into the rotation here. 2046 01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:38,519 Speaker 1: Can you blow it up? That's not a deadlift? 2047 01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,639 Speaker 2: Well, he's dead, Luke, showing you can call whatever you want. 2048 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,200 Speaker 1: Oh god, it looks like he's trying to power claim. 2049 01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he won't be producing children after that, Luke. 2050 01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, when you're a moron, you shouldn't. 2051 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 2: Oh wow, all right, hey, Luke, you know the Holloways. 2052 01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:55,240 Speaker 1: Many Darwin Awards. You know. 2053 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,200 Speaker 2: Did you hear the fireworks go off New Year's Eve? 2054 01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:58,280 Speaker 2: My neighborhood and fireworks? 2055 01:26:58,320 --> 01:26:59,920 Speaker 1: Guy have dogs they were fucking running to. 2056 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,639 Speaker 2: All right, here's a bottle rocket from the balcony. Let's 2057 01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:13,519 Speaker 2: listen to this. Yeah, but you gotta be courteous to 2058 01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,479 Speaker 2: me in celebrations at times. 2059 01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:27,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no, god, hey, let's commit ourson. Yeah. 2060 01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,080 Speaker 2: Remember we saw something similar to that when we were 2061 01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,880 Speaker 2: filming on the rooftop with Chuck and that that old 2062 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:33,760 Speaker 2: guy was watching porn on the big screen over there. 2063 01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,320 Speaker 1: You were exaggerating. No, he was watching porn. 2064 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 2: Happened. 2065 01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 1: I know because I was watching through his window. 2066 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,080 Speaker 2: Let's close with this, Luke. You ever play the game 2067 01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:48,599 Speaker 2: called find the Pickle? No, all right, you gotta be careful. 2068 01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:49,479 Speaker 2: You may get a little hot. 2069 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:50,719 Speaker 1: He was this Rhodes scholar. 2070 01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,880 Speaker 2: Is there anything worse than a faceful of pickle juice, Luke. 2071 01:27:56,120 --> 01:28:01,880 Speaker 1: Who is this MacArthur winner? Hey? Could your face be redder? 2072 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,200 Speaker 1: You fucking lush me? 2073 01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,120 Speaker 2: All right? Because yeah this? 2074 01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:07,479 Speaker 1: Why did you drink more? 2075 01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:08,040 Speaker 2: Good? 2076 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,040 Speaker 1: Lord, Luke? 2077 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,240 Speaker 2: That's all the ship I got this week fairly good, 2078 01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:12,840 Speaker 2: fairly good. 2079 01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,599 Speaker 1: Not bad than last week's for sure. Odds and ends? 2080 01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,320 Speaker 1: What do you got for odds and or ends? 2081 01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,920 Speaker 2: I did, Luke, and I thank you and everyone that 2082 01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 2: supported me, including all the Morning Combat fans out there. 2083 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:26,920 Speaker 2: Made my showbox debut in past Friday. Thank you. It 2084 01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:30,960 Speaker 2: was a successful one. Showbox went down in Orlando. Can't 2085 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,880 Speaker 2: wait for the next one in February. But we did 2086 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,000 Speaker 2: see in the main event Luke Dominican prospect. As we 2087 01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:39,559 Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, Luis Nuniez remain undefeated. Luke, he calls himself 2088 01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:41,960 Speaker 2: the Twist and comes out to Chubby Checker. Yet he's 2089 01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,840 Speaker 2: twenty two. Something's missing there. There's a disconnect there, unless 2090 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:47,120 Speaker 2: he just likes the classics, right. 2091 01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:49,920 Speaker 1: I haven't listened to a word you said. 2092 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:51,960 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I think our staff have picked what 2093 01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 2: they what they deemed to be the greatest clip of 2094 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:55,120 Speaker 2: the evening. Let's go to that. 2095 01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,880 Speaker 1: Now, this is where you tell people. You're happy about 2096 01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:58,360 Speaker 1: nine to eleven. 2097 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,960 Speaker 2: Nice up tonight, Thank you the Virgin trip for Brian 2098 01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 2: Campbell here on Showbox fat Face. Well, Luke Barry said, 2099 01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,560 Speaker 2: right there a virgin no more, Luke. Okay, so I 2100 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,679 Speaker 2: don't know who popped that cherry there on the staff 2101 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,000 Speaker 2: on Friday, but it was great and Luis Nunias could 2102 01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:19,320 Speaker 2: be something. Did you see the man event? 2103 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 1: So he was kind of good. 2104 01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,760 Speaker 2: He was dominant but not really going for it. And 2105 01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,320 Speaker 2: then he was the other guy was a little over me. 2106 01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,680 Speaker 2: Let's see the highlights to tell the other guy was. 2107 01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,280 Speaker 2: But the other guy in balls and he was pushing 2108 01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,000 Speaker 2: it and looking at Nunia. Is there in the blue, 2109 01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,000 Speaker 2: this is in the yellow are Yeah, this is early 2110 01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,320 Speaker 2: on in the fight. You know, maybe we can get 2111 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,160 Speaker 2: the knockout loaded them. Hey there's some part of Oh 2112 01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:44,160 Speaker 2: there's the end. Okay, there it is. We were like, 2113 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,439 Speaker 2: you know, he kind of needs something, something, he needs something, 2114 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,800 Speaker 2: and we didn't show the punch that hurt him. All right, 2115 01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,080 Speaker 2: Well we had a good run here, Luke. But it 2116 01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,559 Speaker 2: was exciting. And he's looking a little gamboa, like remember 2117 01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,560 Speaker 2: your York is gamboa back when he could when he 2118 01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,160 Speaker 2: could fight like Cuban guy although he's from the Dominican 2119 01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,640 Speaker 2: has the was it boxing skills but just loves to 2120 01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,240 Speaker 2: go after it. Yeah, a fun fighter to watch. And 2121 01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,960 Speaker 2: look Parry Tompkins, dude, Rocky four. I mean, come on, 2122 01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,880 Speaker 2: you know the Hearns girl tagler Leonard? Do you still 2123 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,639 Speaker 2: call him? Fight for mine? 2124 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,000 Speaker 1: Very quickly, I will just tell you that Dean Lister 2125 01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,360 Speaker 1: has made the ADCC Hall of Fame. The reason why 2126 01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,719 Speaker 1: this is relevant is the two thousand and three Absolute 2127 01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,600 Speaker 1: gold winner is the first American to ever make it 2128 01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,200 Speaker 1: in As you might recall, as I mentioned, he won 2129 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,320 Speaker 1: gold in two thousand and three in the Absolute division. 2130 01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:30,520 Speaker 1: He returned in two thousand. 2131 01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,560 Speaker 3: And five and beat John Jock Machado and claimed the 2132 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,519 Speaker 3: Super five championship in a tough match. Took a break 2133 01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,639 Speaker 3: in two thousand and seven, competed again in two thousand 2134 01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:39,080 Speaker 3: and nine, and then in eleven he took on the 2135 01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,519 Speaker 3: gold medal in the minus ninety nine kilo division. So 2136 01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,720 Speaker 3: Absolute division and Super Fight champion. They put him in 2137 01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:48,680 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. So congrats to Dean Lister, a 2138 01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,400 Speaker 3: pioneer of grappling, certainly for the American side of things. 2139 01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:55,800 Speaker 2: And one hell of a champion and is willing to 2140 01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,000 Speaker 2: kill John Jones on site. All right, Dean Lister, didn't 2141 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,880 Speaker 2: they have a beef? Who knows? Who am I thinking of? 2142 01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:02,800 Speaker 2: Who said they would? Yeah? It wasn't a Dean. 2143 01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:03,639 Speaker 1: I don't. 2144 01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:08,080 Speaker 2: Dean Lister? Who am I? Who am I thinking right now? 2145 01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:08,160 Speaker 1: That? 2146 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,200 Speaker 2: Had that that run on? I g where they're like 2147 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:14,439 Speaker 2: John like, oh frank Lester, Frank Lester, and I confuse that. 2148 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,880 Speaker 2: There you go, two different people, two different people. Thank 2149 01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,160 Speaker 2: you very much. I was almost getting people in trouble 2150 01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:20,479 Speaker 2: right there. 2151 01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:22,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2152 01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,720 Speaker 2: Me, they're gonna come. They're gonna be coming around with 2153 01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:25,920 Speaker 2: Anthony Smith looking for a receipt. 2154 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,439 Speaker 3: Luke, Okay, all right, b C. That was today's show. 2155 01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:29,920 Speaker 3: Why don't we you want to hit to the folks 2156 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:33,240 Speaker 3: what we're doing the whole week, you know, but. 2157 01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:36,000 Speaker 2: We're going to be filming an important resume review looking 2158 01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:37,960 Speaker 2: at a big time UFC. 2159 01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,920 Speaker 1: The bosses said, the boss has literally called me. This 2160 01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,320 Speaker 1: is a true story, and they said we want more 2161 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,200 Speaker 1: resume reviews. So I said, okay, fine, like. 2162 01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:49,639 Speaker 2: We want you if you can to through bad karma 2163 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:53,519 Speaker 2: and and you know sorcery manipulate the results of these 2164 01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,320 Speaker 2: main events. Yes, you know, they're like, we got a 2165 01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,320 Speaker 2: lot of money we're willing to put down whoever you guys, 2166 01:31:58,320 --> 01:31:58,519 Speaker 2: you know. 2167 01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:00,840 Speaker 1: So, uh so we're gonna do that. We got some 2168 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:02,439 Speaker 1: other stuff we're gonna try out for you guys. 2169 01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,880 Speaker 2: So are we doing like a room service staries? And 2170 01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:06,200 Speaker 2: we don't do that anymore? I think we need to. 2171 01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,120 Speaker 1: I brought my camera equipment. Yeah, I think we need to, okay, 2172 01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:10,960 Speaker 1: because we didn't do one for like the last like 2173 01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:13,600 Speaker 1: three trips and everyone's kind of on our ass about it. 2174 01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:17,120 Speaker 1: So uh so we'll do that probably as well, and 2175 01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:20,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of other stuff. So stay tuned, and uh yeah, 2176 01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,519 Speaker 1: it's gonna be good. And we're in the new fucking studio. 2177 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,280 Speaker 2: How loyal are these gains? Right here? Right? 2178 01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,519 Speaker 1: This is pretty fucking loyal, man. I gotta say this 2179 01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:27,000 Speaker 1: is nice. 2180 01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,679 Speaker 2: Although there's there's been like an you know, I don't 2181 01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,519 Speaker 2: always mean to make it you against me, but there's 2182 01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,320 Speaker 2: been an uprise of people DM and me going, hey man, 2183 01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,519 Speaker 2: been watching the show a long time. Luke looks ready 2184 01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,040 Speaker 2: to go. He looks like he's got one foot out 2185 01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:39,880 Speaker 2: the door. No, And I'm like, that's sort of who 2186 01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,160 Speaker 2: Luke is right. His default is to be uncomfortable and 2187 01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,200 Speaker 2: give the impression I might leave your ass. 2188 01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,920 Speaker 3: I only have that impression when there's nothing to talk about. 2189 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,000 Speaker 3: It's like Jake Paul and no fights. It's like, I 2190 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:51,200 Speaker 3: don't you know, what do you want me to do? 2191 01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:51,559 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2192 01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:52,719 Speaker 1: But when the fights are back. 2193 01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:57,160 Speaker 2: On, shout out to DC with this, right, Luke, I 2194 01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,840 Speaker 2: had no idea what this flag was, Like, we don't 2195 01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,400 Speaker 2: have I don't have a Naugato, Connecticut flag in my house, 2196 01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I don't have a new 2197 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,519 Speaker 2: Haven County flag, Like, we don't give a shit about that. 2198 01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,439 Speaker 3: I could be mistaken, but I believe that either George 2199 01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:13,160 Speaker 3: Washington designed this flag or George Washington's. 2200 01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:17,439 Speaker 2: Plans for the city, that it is inherently racist. 2201 01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:20,559 Speaker 1: But this is the flag of DC. This is what's tattooed. 2202 01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,680 Speaker 2: What would you do though, if, if, if you did 2203 01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:31,080 Speaker 2: find out that this flag was directly, unmistakably racist, Probably no, 2204 01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:31,479 Speaker 2: big do. 2205 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,519 Speaker 3: I'm not like these UFC fighters who have like Nazi 2206 01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,120 Speaker 3: tattoos and they're like, I'm not getting that covered up. 2207 01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:43,040 Speaker 2: It's part of who I am. Okay, all right, all right, Luke, 2208 01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:47,080 Speaker 2: did anyone come to your steps on January sixth, homeless 2209 01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:48,400 Speaker 2: people are going to lift anything. 2210 01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:51,320 Speaker 3: No but lots of sirens that day. Oh there was 2211 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,120 Speaker 3: twenty four to seven. There was nothing but police sirens 2212 01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:54,280 Speaker 3: and it. 2213 01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,200 Speaker 2: I hope most of our viewers are safe. They're fine. 2214 01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,800 Speaker 3: Uh okay, well that's it us. So what's the what's 2215 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 3: the picture? Showtime dot com thirty day free trolley. 2216 01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:05,000 Speaker 2: To like it, you can keep it. 2217 01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:06,240 Speaker 1: If not, you can go pound sand. 2218 01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a really good clothes that you can 2219 01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:09,639 Speaker 2: wear at Morning Combat dots. 2220 01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:11,840 Speaker 1: I think plug anything we should. 2221 01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:13,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's great. I wear this stuff all 2222 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,080 Speaker 2: the time. Can you speak to the quality of. 2223 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,640 Speaker 1: Our merch it's pretty high. In fact, I brought in. 2224 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,559 Speaker 2: Fact most people that that do the merchandise for us 2225 01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,320 Speaker 2: are pretty high too. So that's yeah. 2226 01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:26,360 Speaker 1: And then you always call them names like uh r J. 2227 01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:28,200 Speaker 1: Grundle Sucker. 2228 01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,519 Speaker 2: I just call him Raymond. Is that you again, Raymond? 2229 01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,320 Speaker 3: Check out the clothes there at Morningcombat dot store. Uh 2230 01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,400 Speaker 3: Morning Combat at gmail dot com is the email for 2231 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,080 Speaker 3: Dead Wrongs on Friday and fan subs on Wins. 2232 01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,639 Speaker 2: Will J. Aaron make an appearance in studio this week? 2233 01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:48,280 Speaker 1: I certainly hope not certainly for what, Like, what would 2234 01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,880 Speaker 1: he do here besides getting the plug his stuff? 2235 01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,040 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, I wear white frame Sung glasses because I'm interesting. 2236 01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:57,800 Speaker 2: Is he the Steve vercicle guys in the island? Would 2237 01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:02,280 Speaker 2: you say he's the Steve Verkle of Morning Combat? Yeah right, he's. 2238 01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, but screech like the real person like Dustin Diamond, 2239 01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:08,800 Speaker 3: like the guy who's getting knifed and ship. 2240 01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,360 Speaker 2: You know, Sorry, Jay, you're the Dustin Diamond. 2241 01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,280 Speaker 1: He's not the screech. He's the Dustin Diamond. Wow, the 2242 01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:15,600 Speaker 1: actual I. 2243 01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,840 Speaker 2: Could see him being like the third Menendez brother. 2244 01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:19,720 Speaker 1: Was there a third brother? 2245 01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,519 Speaker 2: But I could see him being that guy like, yeah, okay, 2246 01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,680 Speaker 2: he achieved more than his brothers, but he's still you know, 2247 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:32,240 Speaker 2: all right for make up? Sorry my line of Alec 2248 01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:33,479 Speaker 2: Baldwin jokes. Would you prefer that? 2249 01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:35,600 Speaker 1: Hey, Alec Baldwin, nice to see yu. 2250 01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:39,880 Speaker 2: We can't recover from that. You kidding me? 2251 01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,680 Speaker 1: You're the worst person in America? All right. 2252 01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,840 Speaker 3: Well, for Brian Campbell and Luke Thomas, thank you so 2253 01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,040 Speaker 3: much to everyone who made the new set possible. 2254 01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:49,400 Speaker 1: We love it. It's great. 2255 01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,000 Speaker 3: We'll tinker with it, we'll burn it and uh we'll 2256 01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:53,519 Speaker 3: be back on Wednesday, but we got lot of stuff 2257 01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,400 Speaker 3: for shooting in between now and then, so until then, 2258 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,639 Speaker 3: may all of your gains be loyal