WEBVTT - The Heist That Turned the Mona Lisa Into a Star

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shonda land Audio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with I Heart Radio. Every year, millions of people

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<v Speaker 1>flocked to the Louver in Paris and elbow each other

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<v Speaker 1>for a glimpse at Leonardo da Vinci's masterpiece, the Mona Lisa.

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<v Speaker 1>The gallery where it's house, hosts as many as thirty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand visitors every single day, many of whom specifically visit

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<v Speaker 1>the museum to see her. You could say she's popular,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was a time when the Mona Lisa was

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<v Speaker 1>not well known, if you can imagine that, and it

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<v Speaker 1>took a man named Vincenzo Perugia to launch her into stardom.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia. I'm Maria tru Marquis and I'm Holly Fry.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mona Lisa has been described as quote the best known,

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<v Speaker 1>the most visited, the most written about, the most sung about,

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<v Speaker 1>the most parodied work of art in the world end quote.

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<v Speaker 1>She has been immortalized in everything from Andy Warhol's pop

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<v Speaker 1>art to Dan Brown's best selling novel The Da Vinci Code.

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<v Speaker 1>Dais artist Martial Duchamp once caused a stir when he

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<v Speaker 1>painted a mustache on a cheap reproduction of the piece.

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<v Speaker 1>Italian master Leonardo da Vinci began painting the Mona Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>in Florence, Italy in fifteen o three or possibly fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>o four, and probably completed it uh well. No one

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<v Speaker 1>is certain when exactly he completed it. Some historians consider

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<v Speaker 1>the painting to have been completed in about three or

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<v Speaker 1>four years, although others suggest that it could have been

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<v Speaker 1>finished any time up to the artist's death in fifteen nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It was then when the King of France, Francois the

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<v Speaker 1>First purchased the work to hang in Fontainebleau, said to

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<v Speaker 1>have been his favorite palace place. Fontainebleau was its home

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<v Speaker 1>for more than a hundred years, until King Louis the

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<v Speaker 1>fourteenth took the painting to the newly built Palace of Versailles.

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<v Speaker 1>After the French Revolution, the Mona Lisa found itself hanging

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<v Speaker 1>in Napoleon Bonaparte's bedroom in the Tuilerie for a few

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<v Speaker 1>years before it was finally installed in its permanent home

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<v Speaker 1>at the Louver and that is where you'll find her

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<v Speaker 1>still today. She is hung in the Salle des Eta,

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<v Speaker 1>that is room seven one one. The portrait and really

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<v Speaker 1>it's so well known we probably don't even really need

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<v Speaker 1>to describe any of this, but just real quick, imagine her.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a woman dressed in Florentine fashion and pictured

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<v Speaker 1>seated in a mountainous landscape. The work is a half

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<v Speaker 1>length portrait painted in oil on a poplar panel, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't seen it in person, it's actually quite

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<v Speaker 1>smaller than many people imagine. It's roughly two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half by two ft or seventy seven by fifty three centimeters.

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<v Speaker 1>The piece is a just just a beautiful example of

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<v Speaker 1>this auto technique, which basically translates from Italian English as

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<v Speaker 1>to Vanish like smoke. So this style creates subtle transitions

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<v Speaker 1>between light and shadow and between colors. But it's the

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<v Speaker 1>subject's enigmatic expression, though, which has given the portrait universal fame.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Mona Lisa, as Maria just alluded to, is

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<v Speaker 1>known for her half smile, but Da Vinci's subject has

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<v Speaker 1>been talked about and debated for centuries. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>most common things said about the piece is that the

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<v Speaker 1>subject eyes follow you. But we can put that one

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<v Speaker 1>to rest because in a study published in the journal Perception,

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<v Speaker 1>German scholars found that she is actually looking Dona. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's suspenseful to the right. Anything else that you

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<v Speaker 1>perceive is just your imagination. Some people claim that there

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<v Speaker 1>is a hidden code in her eyes. Others are certain

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<v Speaker 1>that the work is actually a portrait of da Vinci himself,

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<v Speaker 1>an artist's self portrait. Today experts are pretty darn sure

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<v Speaker 1>that Italian noblewoman Lisa Gerardini, that was the wife of

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<v Speaker 1>Italian merchant Francesco del Giocondo, is the face of the

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<v Speaker 1>Mona Lisa. We know the Mona Lisa as an iconic

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<v Speaker 1>piece of artwork of the Renaissance, and it's considered nearly

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to value because it's simply priceless. Really, it was

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<v Speaker 1>assessed before it once traveled from Paris to to Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d c. And then New York City for a special

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<v Speaker 1>exhibition held between December of nineteen sixty two and March

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen sixty three, and it was at that time

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<v Speaker 1>when it entered the Guinness Book of Records for being

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<v Speaker 1>given the highest known insurance evaluation for a painting, a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars, and that has helped make it the

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<v Speaker 1>target of theft and vandalism. On several occasions. The Mona

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa has been spray painted. It's been mugged, most recently caked.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen fifty six alone, two people tried to vandalize

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<v Speaker 1>the work on separate occasions. In the face of so

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<v Speaker 1>much potential damage, Spanish artist Salvador Dolli once attributed to

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<v Speaker 1>the painting a quote power unique in all art history

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<v Speaker 1>to provoke the most violent and different kinds of aggressions.

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<v Speaker 1>The first attack on the Mona Lisa was in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six during an exhibition in Montaubon, France, when a

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<v Speaker 1>visitor through acid at the work. At the end of

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<v Speaker 1>December that same year, a man named Hugo Unyaga Viegas

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<v Speaker 1>threw a rock at the painting. He said at the

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<v Speaker 1>time quote, I had a stone in my pocket and

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly the idea to throw it came to mind. Viega's

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<v Speaker 1>rock did not do permanent damage to the painting, although

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<v Speaker 1>it did manage to damage a small area of the paint.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mona Lisa was repaired by experts with the French State.

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<v Speaker 1>It was back on exhibit just days after the incident,

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<v Speaker 1>but after such a year the decision was made to

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<v Speaker 1>place the piece behind protective glass. The Mona Lisa has

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<v Speaker 1>actually rarely ever left the louver Or France, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventies it won on a tour that included

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<v Speaker 1>exhibition in Japan. In nineteen seventy four, nearly one and

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<v Speaker 1>a half million people reportedly saw the painting when it

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<v Speaker 1>traveled to the National Museum in Tokyo, and in April,

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<v Speaker 1>during the tour, twenty five year old Tomiko Yosu tried

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<v Speaker 1>to spray the work with red paint. Unlike the in

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<v Speaker 1>the Moment idea to throw a random rock at the masterpiece,

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<v Speaker 1>her attack was politically motivated. In the days leading up

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<v Speaker 1>to the show's opening, disability activists had raised a red

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<v Speaker 1>flag about the exhibit, stating that in refusing access to

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<v Speaker 1>those who needed assistance, the National Museum was discriminating against

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<v Speaker 1>those living with disability. Yonezu, in an effort to call

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<v Speaker 1>attention to this, hit the Mona Lisa Well. She hit

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<v Speaker 1>the Mona Lisa's protective glass to be clear, with an

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<v Speaker 1>estimated twenty to thirty drops of spray paint. She was

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<v Speaker 1>detained and in nive. She was convicted of a misdemeanor

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<v Speaker 1>and fined three thousand yen her brazen vandalism, Though did

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<v Speaker 1>affect a change. Tokyo's National Museum announced it would set

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<v Speaker 1>aside a day when those with disabilities could exclusively visit

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<v Speaker 1>the Mona Lisa. And then things went pretty quietly for

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<v Speaker 1>the Mona Lisa for a little while until two thousand nine,

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<v Speaker 1>more than thirty years after that spray paint incident. In

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<v Speaker 1>August that year, the painting was again attacked, this time

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<v Speaker 1>with a teacup. The scene that day went like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Approaching the painting, a woman reached into her purse, grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>the now infamous mug and threw it directly at the

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<v Speaker 1>face of Mona Lisa. The mug shattered, but the artwork

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<v Speaker 1>remained undisturbed. Remember it's under that protective glass. According to

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<v Speaker 1>a spokesperson for the Louver at the time, the woman

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<v Speaker 1>had been upset over being denied French citizenship. The museum's

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<v Speaker 1>statement to The New York Times also included that quote

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<v Speaker 1>viewing was only disturbed the time it took to pick

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<v Speaker 1>up the pieces. And then there was a very recent

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<v Speaker 1>attack at Loop in May a man in his thirties

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<v Speaker 1>disguised as an elderly woman in a wheelchair through what

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<v Speaker 1>museum officials later described as a concealed partistory at the painting. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>the protective glass installed prevented any damage to the piece.

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<v Speaker 1>It not the Mona Lisa was smeared with pastry cream.

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<v Speaker 1>Museum officials suggested that the protester himself, not living with

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<v Speaker 1>the disability, faking it, chose to use the wheelchair to

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<v Speaker 1>exploit their reduced mobility policy, which allowed him closer access

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<v Speaker 1>to the painting. The vandal before being apprehended through rose

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<v Speaker 1>petals on the ground while shouting think of the earth.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people who are destroying the earth. Think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Artists tell you think of the earth. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>did this. But it was actually the theft of this

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<v Speaker 1>painting in nineteen eleven. Yes, I'm actual theft, not vandalism,

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<v Speaker 1>that turned the Mona Lisa into one of the world's

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<v Speaker 1>most instantly recognizable images. That's right. And with that though,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to take a break for a word from

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsor. But when we return, we will introduce the

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<v Speaker 1>man who made the Mona Lisa a household name, Vincenzo Peruggia.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's tell the story about the

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<v Speaker 1>day the Mona Lisa disappeared. The louver was closed from

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<v Speaker 1>maintenance on August nineteen eleven, the day the Mona Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>went missing. That morning, a small mustachioed Italian man named

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<v Speaker 1>Vincenzo Peruggia, dressed in the standard uniform of a Parisian handyman,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a white worker's smock, entered the museum, probably

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<v Speaker 1>maybe with other maintenance workers, and made his way to

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<v Speaker 1>the gallery where the Mona Lisa hung. He removed the

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<v Speaker 1>painting from its two hundred pound framed enclosure, tucking the

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<v Speaker 1>small panel under his smock. He then, well, he then

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of walked out into the streets of Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a version of this high story that hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>added detail, though, and it adds a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a dramatic twist, and it goes like this. Perugia hid

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<v Speaker 1>in a storage room overnight, planning to escape with the

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<v Speaker 1>painting in the morning, but when he tried to get out,

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<v Speaker 1>he discovered the door was locked. He removed the door knob,

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<v Speaker 1>but it still would not open until that is a

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<v Speaker 1>helpful plumber passing by in the hallway lent a hand

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<v Speaker 1>and opened the door for him. We have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>if this detail actually happened, but it's a fun story.

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<v Speaker 1>Door knob or no door knob, there is more no

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<v Speaker 1>thing about the theft was discovered until a wealthy museum

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<v Speaker 1>patron and visiting artist, a man named Louis Berud, arrived

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<v Speaker 1>to sketch works in the Salon care That was the

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<v Speaker 1>gallery where the Mona Lisa was at the time exhibited,

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<v Speaker 1>but where he expected to see da Vinci's masterpiece, he

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<v Speaker 1>found only blank wall space. Of course, he reported it

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<v Speaker 1>immediately right well so, because the Louver routinely removed works

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<v Speaker 1>from its galleries for photographing, it actually wouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 1>out of the ordinary to notice that a painting was

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<v Speaker 1>missing and to think nothing of its absence. And several

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<v Speaker 1>hours went by before the man notified the guards. We

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<v Speaker 1>did read that from the steel to the missing painting

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<v Speaker 1>report or whatever that may be technically called. As many

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<v Speaker 1>as possibly twenty six hours may have passed before anyone

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that the Mona Lisa had left the building. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't until later that evening, after the paintings frame was

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<v Speaker 1>discovered in the service stairwell, that museum officials announced the

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<v Speaker 1>Mona Lisa had been stolen. That frame, incidentally, had been

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<v Speaker 1>donated by Countess de Bienne just two years prior and

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<v Speaker 1>had not been damaged during the heist, stated museum officials, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mona Lisa is gone. Thus far, we haven't a

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<v Speaker 1>clue as to who might have committed the crime. Curator

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<v Speaker 1>George Beneditte told the press at the time, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>paraphrasing him here, that only a practical joker would steal

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<v Speaker 1>such a prized painting because it would just be too

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to fence. And the director of National Museums at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, a man named Jean Philamole, who was vacationing

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<v Speaker 1>when the Mona Lisa was stolen, stated in reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>the news that it must have been simply misplaced, adding quote,

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<v Speaker 1>you might as well pretend that one could steal the

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<v Speaker 1>towers of Notre Dame. Francis Gendarme had an alternate theory.

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<v Speaker 1>They believed that the thief would demand ransom within forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight hours. Two days passed, though, and nobody came forward.

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<v Speaker 1>The entire country of France was stunned at this fact,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were many theories circulating as to what could

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<v Speaker 1>have become of the Mona Lisa. One popular Parisian magazine

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<v Speaker 1>wondered what what audacious criminal? What mystifier? What maniac collector?

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<v Speaker 1>What insane lover has committed this subduction? What insane lover

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<v Speaker 1>has committed this? I want that on my tumb stone.

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<v Speaker 1>What insane loverbduction? I mean I want to be cremated.

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<v Speaker 1>But still you can marker. I can still say something.

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<v Speaker 1>Right there you go. In addition to the frame found

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<v Speaker 1>in the stairwell, some reports suggest that later in the investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>guards spoke with a plumber who were called helping a

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<v Speaker 1>man who was locked in a stairwell, So that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of leads into that little detail we talked about earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>But back to that frame, there was a single thumb

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<v Speaker 1>print found on it. Harris police inspector Alphonse Bertillon was

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<v Speaker 1>the first to recognize the value of fingerprints in law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 1>and as an aside, he's also credited with developing the

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<v Speaker 1>mug shot. He had, it's reported, hundreds of thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>prints on file, too many to check against the one

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<v Speaker 1>found on the frame, so instead he fingerprinted all two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred fifty seven employees who had been working at the

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<v Speaker 1>museum that day. Perugia had briefly worked for a firm

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<v Speaker 1>that cut glass for the Louver, although we did find

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<v Speaker 1>some reports suggesting that he had actually just been an

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<v Speaker 1>employee of the museum, but that's a little unclear, and

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know if he was fingerprinted. Detectives dusted for

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<v Speaker 1>fingerprints and questioned witnesses. Cars and pedestrians were stopped and

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<v Speaker 1>searched at checkpoints throughout the city, and officials circulated those

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<v Speaker 1>wanted style posters of the Mona Lisa's face. The New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times wrote that quote, a great number of citizens

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<v Speaker 1>have turned amateur Sherlock Holmes is and continued to advance

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<v Speaker 1>most extraordinary theories. Some thought a forgery ring thieved it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're selling knockoffs to wealthy but naive art patrons.

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<v Speaker 1>Others argued that the man behind the theft had to

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<v Speaker 1>be banking magnet JP Morgan, who many believed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a robber baron, and who many believed had surely commissioned

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<v Speaker 1>this heist for his own private art collection. One popular

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<v Speaker 1>rumor in Paris specifically was that Germans had stolen it.

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<v Speaker 1>There were many, many, many theories here. When French police

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<v Speaker 1>distributed six thousand, five hundred leaflets about the theft and

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<v Speaker 1>announced a reward for forty Francs for its return. People

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<v Speaker 1>started to turn on each other, Neighbors informed on neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>There were stories of alleged sightings of the painting in

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<v Speaker 1>places as far away as Russia and Japan, despite no

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<v Speaker 1>good leads on the Mona Lisa's whereabouts. As an aside,

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<v Speaker 1>the museum did, in the process recover some other stolen

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<v Speaker 1>loot that was unrelated to this particular theme. There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I really love that we got something. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know this was missing. This was a big, big story

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<v Speaker 1>for news media, and their coverage of the heist helped

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<v Speaker 1>turn the work into a notable and recognizable piece of art. Suddenly,

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<v Speaker 1>the face of the Mona Lisa was everywhere as a

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<v Speaker 1>modern audience, It's got hard to grasp that. When The

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Post first reported about the theft and appraised the

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<v Speaker 1>paintings value at five million dollars, the newspaper mistakenly ran

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of the Mona Vanna, which is a distly

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<v Speaker 1>different piece of art. The Mona Vanna is a nude

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<v Speaker 1>charcoal sketch that some art historians theorized I and She

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<v Speaker 1>might have drawn in preparation for painting the Mona Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe not either way, it's definitely not the Mona Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's I mean, that's actually really a great

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<v Speaker 1>example of how unknown this work was before it was stolen.

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<v Speaker 1>Noah Charney, art history professor, author of the Thefts of

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<v Speaker 1>the Mona Lisa and founder of the Association for Research

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<v Speaker 1>into Crimes Against Art, has said, quote, if a different

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<v Speaker 1>one of Leonardo's works had been stolen, then that would

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<v Speaker 1>have been the most famous work in the world, not

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<v Speaker 1>the Mona Lisa. He added, quote, there was nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>really distinguished it per se other than it was a

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<v Speaker 1>very good work by a very famous artist. That's until

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<v Speaker 1>it was stolen. The theft is what really skyrocketed its

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<v Speaker 1>appeal and made it a household name. At first, a

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<v Speaker 1>color reproduction was hung in the Mona Lisa's place at

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<v Speaker 1>the Louver. Then, in December nineteen twelve, Raphael's portrait of

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<v Speaker 1>Baldisser Castiglione was exhibited there. The investigation remained open, but

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<v Speaker 1>after two years there were very few leads. On September seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eleven, avant garde writer Guillaume at Pollonier, who had

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<v Speaker 1>once called for the Louver to be burned down, was

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<v Speaker 1>arrested and held on suspicion of theft of the Mona Lisa.

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<v Speaker 1>A Polonaire became a suspect after one of two things happened.

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<v Speaker 1>His chapter in this story is told two different ways. One,

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<v Speaker 1>authorities were able to link missing figurine stolen from the

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<v Speaker 1>Louver to one of his former assistants, Gary Pierre, who

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<v Speaker 1>was also a small time thief, and Pierre spilled the

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<v Speaker 1>beans on the artist. Alternatively, there is a version that

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<v Speaker 1>suggests that a Pollonaire and Pierre had a falling out

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<v Speaker 1>and Pire told the Paris Journal newspaper that he had

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<v Speaker 1>information on the Mona Lisa to information that included a Pollinaire.

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<v Speaker 1>Regardless of which version of the story you hear, the

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<v Speaker 1>outcome was the same. A Pollinaire was exonerated of all

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<v Speaker 1>charges and he was released, But during his time in custody,

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<v Speaker 1>he did implicate his friend, Spanish artist Pablo Picasso in

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<v Speaker 1>the theft. Picasso had purchased Iberian bronze age statue stolen

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<v Speaker 1>by Pierre. That's a detail we can't be sure if

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<v Speaker 1>Picasso knew about or not, but he had purchased those

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<v Speaker 1>to use his models in his paintings and you can

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<v Speaker 1>see them in his work. Les Demoiselle d'Avignon is a

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<v Speaker 1>piece that's considered to have ushered in the style of Cubism,

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<v Speaker 1>and those models were used for it. After questioning, though

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<v Speaker 1>authorities dismissed Picasso as a suspect, they did seem to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to everyone, and they even interviewed Perugia twice. In

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<v Speaker 1>his apartment at five Rue Delpita, Saint Luis Us, three

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<v Speaker 1>miles from the museum. They interviewed him before concluding that

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<v Speaker 1>he could not be their man. His alibi, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>came across too in the research. Although the first one

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<v Speaker 1>is much more commonly reported. That first one is that

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<v Speaker 1>Perusia may have claimed that he had been working at

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<v Speaker 1>a different location the day of the theft. The second

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<v Speaker 1>one suggests that Perusia may have replied that he learned

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<v Speaker 1>of the theft from reading about it in the newspapers,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the reason he was late to work that

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<v Speaker 1>Monday in August was that he had drunk too much

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<v Speaker 1>the night before and overslept. Regardless, we know he did it.

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<v Speaker 1>What authorities did not know though, at the time, was

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<v Speaker 1>that they were actually in the presence of the mona

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa during those interviews. It was stashed in the false

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of a trunk in Perusia's apartment while they were

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<v Speaker 1>there questioning him. So with the Mona Lisa case, at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, the authorities were completely stuck. We are going

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<v Speaker 1>to take a break for a word from our sponsor now,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we're back, we will talk about the letter

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<v Speaker 1>that Perugia sent to a dealer in Florence and the

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<v Speaker 1>reply he received. Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Perugia's mistakes and his subsequent arrest. The image of the

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<v Speaker 1>Mona Lisa was, as we have said, suddenly splashed across

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<v Speaker 1>front pages of newspapers around the world. Sixty detectives seek

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<v Speaker 1>stolen Mona Lisa. French public indignant, reported The New York Times.

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<v Speaker 1>Said author and historian Charnee Quote. The museum had over

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred rooms, but only two guards and even fewer

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<v Speaker 1>on duty overnight. There were basically no alarms in play.

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<v Speaker 1>It was under secure, but to be fair, most museums

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<v Speaker 1>were at that time. The theft, he continued, Quote, launched

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<v Speaker 1>the painting into becoming a household name for people who

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<v Speaker 1>had never been to Europe and had no interest in art,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really just continued from there. In fact, for

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<v Speaker 1>the very first time, there were accused of people outside

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<v Speaker 1>the louver. Among them were famous names, including writers Franz

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<v Speaker 1>Kafka and Max Broade, each waiting for their chance to

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<v Speaker 1>see the empty space where the painting should have been

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall. As the theft gained more and more

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<v Speaker 1>press attention, both within France and internationally, Perusia kept the

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<v Speaker 1>painting hidden and it just sat there in his apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Christopher Marinello of Art Recovery International, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a company that provides art recovery services to museums as

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<v Speaker 1>well as to private collectors, Perusia's behavior of stealing and

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<v Speaker 1>hiding a painting for years is actually a pretty common

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<v Speaker 1>thing among art thieves, he says. Quote. A typical art

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<v Speaker 1>thief tries to get money. When they can't hide it,

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<v Speaker 1>they store it until they can get money. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as art is stolen, it decreases in value. This happened

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<v Speaker 1>even in the eighteen hundreds when there was no Internet. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone knows about every single art theft, whether a turn

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<v Speaker 1>of the century Matisse painting or a seven foot garden no.

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<v Speaker 1>The Prefect of the Police had several theories, and was

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<v Speaker 1>quoted in a nineteen twelve article in The New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times as saying, the thieves, I am inclined to think

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<v Speaker 1>there were more than one, got away with it all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So far nothing is known of their identity and whereabouts.

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<v Speaker 1>I am certain that the motive was not a political one.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe it is a case of sabotage brought about

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<v Speaker 1>by discontent among Louver employees. Possibly, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>the theft was committed by a maniac. A more serious

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<v Speaker 1>possibility is that La Giaconda was stolen by someone who

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<v Speaker 1>ends to make a monetary profit by blackmailing the government. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just in case you didn't recognize. La Gia Conde is

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<v Speaker 1>another name for the Mona Lisa, based on the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it is probably Lisa Giacondo in the work. So yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Unbeknownst to everyone at this point, everyone but Perugia, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mona Lisa was actually still in Paris, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Perugia made an attempt to sell it to a man

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<v Speaker 1>named Alfredo Gary, a Florentine antique dealer who frequently advertised

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<v Speaker 1>for fine art in several Italian newspapers. On November Gary

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<v Speaker 1>received a letter postmark from Paris regarding the potential sale

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mona Lisa, details of which would be agreed

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<v Speaker 1>upon during a personal meaning. That letter was signed Leonardo,

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<v Speaker 1>but the sale backfired when the dealer called on Giovanni Pogi,

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<v Speaker 1>director of the Ofizi Galleries in Florence, for an appraisal,

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<v Speaker 1>and set up a meeting with Perugia and poe Gi

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<v Speaker 1>in Milan. The men gathered in Perugia's room at the

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<v Speaker 1>Tripoli Italian Hotel, where he removed it from its red

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<v Speaker 1>silk wrapping. Gary later wrote, quote, we placed it on

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<v Speaker 1>the bed, and to our astonished eyes, the divine Mona

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa appeared intact and marvelously preserved. Pogi confirmed that yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this was the original work, and he convinced Perugia to

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<v Speaker 1>leave it with him at the Effizi for safekeeping. Perugia

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<v Speaker 1>demanded one hundred thousand dollars in expenses, and they agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to both that and to his selling price half a

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<v Speaker 1>million lira. We did, however, see that asking price alternately

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<v Speaker 1>referenced as half a million francs. In any case, he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a lot of money for it, although not anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>close to what it was worth regardless. Though the men

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<v Speaker 1>did not go to the bank. They instead contacted the

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<v Speaker 1>Italian police, and on December twel Mona Lisa was recovered

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<v Speaker 1>in Florence, Italy. The painting was returned to Paris, but

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<v Speaker 1>first was exhibited at the Uffizi through the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. It's estimated that at least add people visited

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<v Speaker 1>the painting in the first two days after it was

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<v Speaker 1>reinstalled in that empty spot on the wall. Yeah, to

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<v Speaker 1>give you context for how many people that is, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have ever been to the louver on a standard

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<v Speaker 1>day we quitted earlier, that's about thirty thou people wall

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<v Speaker 1>to wall, elbow to elbow, like it is a tight situation,

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<v Speaker 1>so double that number. Complete madness. This was huge. These

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<v Speaker 1>are he was a very big deal that it was back.

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<v Speaker 1>Vincenzo Perugia was arrested in his hotel room. His courtroom

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<v Speaker 1>appearance has been described as quote an unhinged or if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the colorful Italian phrase in the court

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<v Speaker 1>reporting quote that translates literally as outside like a balcony.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a saying that suggests that things are

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<v Speaker 1>just absolutely madness. In court, Perugia shouted and he interrupted witnesses.

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<v Speaker 1>He argued with prosecutors, he argued with his own lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>He first stated that he worked alone on the heist,

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<v Speaker 1>but then he recanted and implicated two of his friends,

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<v Speaker 1>neither of whom it turned out, were actually involved. Wherever

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 1>his story meandered, though he always maintained this one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>his theft of the Mona Lisa was an act of patriotism.

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<v Speaker 1>Perugia claimed that he had taken the painting out of

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<v Speaker 1>a patriotic duty to bring it home to Italy. He

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<v Speaker 1>was convinced that the painting had been stolen during battle

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<v Speaker 1>between France and Italy centuries earlier, and he did not

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<v Speaker 1>seem to know that it had actually been purchased by

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<v Speaker 1>the King of France. Barren Square author and historian Noah

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<v Speaker 1>Charney has said a Prussia quote, he seemed to have

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely been convinced he would be heralded as a national hero,

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<v Speaker 1>and genuinely dismayed to discover he wasn't. He was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a few pickles short of a sandwich, but not a lunatic.

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<v Speaker 1>Peruggia did have other convictions. He was known to be

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<v Speaker 1>hot headed, and he had prior arrests for robbery. But

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<v Speaker 1>there was also a kind of weirdly suspicious thing that

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<v Speaker 1>authorities found in his apartment. He had begun keeping a

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<v Speaker 1>journal of sorts that included a list of art collectors.

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<v Speaker 1>Curiously enough, and that's the evidence that led most people

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<v Speaker 1>to assume that he had actually done this highest out

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<v Speaker 1>of one simple thing, greed and not patriotism. On June,

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<v Speaker 1>Peruggio was sentenced to one year and fifteen days in

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<v Speaker 1>prison by Florentine courts, a sentence it was reported that

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<v Speaker 1>was considered to be pretty light. We actually read a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of conflicting sentence information for him, but it seems

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<v Speaker 1>that he served anywhere between six months to that one

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<v Speaker 1>year in fifteen days of the Mona Lisa, Perugia has said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I fell in love with her. Years after the paintings return.

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<v Speaker 1>Newspapers called the disappearance of the Mona Lisa quote the

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<v Speaker 1>most colossal theft of modern times, and also stated, matter

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<v Speaker 1>of factly that Perugia gave the painting its world fame.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mona Lisa continues to be owned by the government

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<v Speaker 1>of France and it is on permanent display behind that

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<v Speaker 1>bulletproof protective glass. Of course, in the Louver in Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>Occasionally there are requests for the Mona Lisa to travel

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<v Speaker 1>as a special exhibit, including one request in from the

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<v Speaker 1>Italian city of Florence, which would have returned the Mona

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa to her origins, at least temporarily. That request was denied.

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<v Speaker 1>The a FP news agency owned by the French government,

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<v Speaker 1>published that quote. The request may have stirred up bad

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<v Speaker 1>memories among French officials, given that it was stolen by

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<v Speaker 1>an Italian. Ah, mom MAA, let's talk about our hight hooch,

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<v Speaker 1>the highst hooge for this one took me a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of tries. I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes you just want

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<v Speaker 1>to experiment a little anyway. But here's what I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think about, because the thing that I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to honor in all of this is that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a painting that's very important to two different national identities.

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<v Speaker 1>France considers this their baby in some ways. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>in the episode about how upset the French public was

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<v Speaker 1>that she had been stolen and a hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people in two days being just a crush of humans,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, again, if you have ever been to the

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<v Speaker 1>Loop and seen the Mona Lisa. You don't even really

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<v Speaker 1>get close to her. Not only is she behind glass,

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<v Speaker 1>she is at a distance that is a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people to see her at a pretty significant remove. Similarly,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that Perusia would not have been the only

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<v Speaker 1>person to consider her important to Italy. They may not

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<v Speaker 1>have the misunderstanding he had about the nature of her

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<v Speaker 1>arrival in France. But she's obviously also very important to

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<v Speaker 1>Italian culture because of Da Vinci in Florentine culture in

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<v Speaker 1>particular too. I wanted to come up with a drink

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of criss crossed these things. But the drink

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming up with is not really a French drink,

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<v Speaker 1>although it is called the French seventy and it was

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<v Speaker 1>invented in Paris. It was invented by a Scottish guy

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<v Speaker 1>during World War One. Drink it's a reference to artillery

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<v Speaker 1>blast if you've ever had a French seventy five. It

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those one of those beverages I have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten very fond of in recent years, which is really

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<v Speaker 1>just gin and champagne with a little simple syrup and lemon.

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<v Speaker 1>I never so I'm curious about. Yeah, it is my

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<v Speaker 1>go to brunch drink. You keep your mimosa. I'm drinking French.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because of the gin. I just never would have

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<v Speaker 1>ordered it. Now that I'm coming along with jin, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>I will. And then, of course I wanted to think

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<v Speaker 1>about that and italianify it. That's a word today, but

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<v Speaker 1>I did it in a very different way. So first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, this is a drink I'm calling She's in

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<v Speaker 1>the trunk. You're right, it is a name that I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it would make you giggle. We're not doing gin, though,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna use some ingredients that are a little

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<v Speaker 1>more Italian in origin. The first one not necessarily, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's common throughout the world. We're going to do an

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of dark rum, then an ounce of muretto, which

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<v Speaker 1>is of course very Italian. I think after this you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna want to add just a splash of simple

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<v Speaker 1>syrup or jaw you use or jah. You're doubling down

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<v Speaker 1>on that almond flavor, and that's very much one to taste,

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<v Speaker 1>because some people don't like much sugar in a drink

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<v Speaker 1>like this, and some people do. But then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>top it. You can mix those together in a shaker

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<v Speaker 1>if you want, or you can stir them together, but

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<v Speaker 1>you want, I recommend stirring with ice because you want

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<v Speaker 1>them to be cold, because you're going to pour them

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<v Speaker 1>into a chill champagne glass and top it with four

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<v Speaker 1>to five ounces of prosecco. This is one of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting if you look up in like bartending guides French,

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<v Speaker 1>they're considered to be not really that strong a drink,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's all alcohol. Champagne's a b V is

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<v Speaker 1>low enough. However, if you're like me, you can drink

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<v Speaker 1>spirits all day long, but champagne really will hit you hards. Heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the deal is there. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm drinking it faster like people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>because you drink it faster, because there's I'm like no,

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<v Speaker 1>even if I'm just sipping, I don't. I'm champagne sensitive

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, or prosecco, any of the sparklings get me,

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<v Speaker 1>the bubbles do something anyway, this will hit you hard

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not careful. So to do the mock tail version,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do an ounce of I would do like

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<v Speaker 1>a dark spiced tea, like a team meant for a

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<v Speaker 1>chie or something in lieu of that dark rum, because

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<v Speaker 1>dark rum is often spiced as well. You're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>probably half an ounce to an ounce if you really

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<v Speaker 1>like sweet of an orja syrup, so you do get

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<v Speaker 1>that almond flavor that you would get from amaretto, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're just gonna do like a light ginger ale

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, and you'll still have a nice

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<v Speaker 1>amber colored As we are heading into autumn in the

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<v Speaker 1>northern Hemisphere, it's a pretty good autumn sip that isn't

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<v Speaker 1>all of the like traditional flavors. If you're one of

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<v Speaker 1>those people that's I'm burned out on pumpkin and apple things,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand that, but I do know that people

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<v Speaker 1>get that happens from time to time. That yummy almond

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<v Speaker 1>flavor with the prosecco feels very much like a cheerful

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<v Speaker 1>version of fall to me. It's so that is she's

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<v Speaker 1>in the trunk. In the trunk, which sounds a little

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<v Speaker 1>dark if you don't know, it's about a piece of art,

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<v Speaker 1>but we all know. So it's fine. If you try it,

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<v Speaker 1>you drink respond stably and you're careful, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>try the mocktail. You will find it refreshing and delightful

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Those bubbles don't get you. You can drink

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<v Speaker 1>of all day. It might make you burp, worst the

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<v Speaker 1>worst that can happen, the worst that can happen, you'll burp.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a yummy a drink once I'll wake another. We

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<v Speaker 1>are so thankful that you have spent this time with

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<v Speaker 1>us today talking about the Mona Lisa, who was a fascinator,

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<v Speaker 1>that's for sure, and we cannot wait to see you

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