Speaker 1: This is a Wells Cast with Wells, Adams and I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio podcast. This is the Wells Cast Hills Cast.
Speaker 1: This is Amy and Danielle and we are filling in
Speaker 1: for Wells. He will be back next week, so you
Speaker 1: don't have to worry anymore. We know you're all happy
Speaker 1: to hear that. So this is your last week with
Speaker 1: a guest host filling in. But it's a super juicy
Speaker 1: episode of the Hills, so we didn't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: not get on here and talk about it. And Ashley
Speaker 1: Waller's joining us in just a minute. She just had
Speaker 1: a baby and there was a lot of drama in
Speaker 1: the episode this week, so we definitely want to talk.
Speaker 1: So happy we have her because this was such a
Speaker 1: big episode for her with all the Jason stuff and
Speaker 1: Spencer and I want her take on Audrina and Brody
Speaker 1: and literally totally agree with you. So I had to
Speaker 1: start because look, with the Hills, sometimes things can be
Speaker 1: let's say, manipulated. So I was like, is this Adrena
Speaker 1: Brodie thing fake? Is this thing real? And I started
Speaker 1: googling it and like it might be real. So I
Speaker 1: have two thoughts. First thought is I love it. I
Speaker 1: do really like them together. I think they are both
Speaker 1: kind of like bad, not bad, but um, edgy is
Speaker 1: the right word. The both edgy. They're both very good looking. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet, to be completely honest
Speaker 1: with you. And then my second thought is Brodie really
Speaker 1: needs to do something with his hair. Sorry, how to
Speaker 1: say it? How to say it? I have on my
Speaker 1: notes to ask Ashley about Brodie's hair. But wait, let's
Speaker 1: let's talk about this for a second. So Kristen and
Speaker 1: Brodie are going on the beach walk and Audrina is
Speaker 1: in the car. They don't show her, but they showed
Speaker 1: her enough, so we see her in the car. Okay, what?
Speaker 1: And then that was so weird? And I love Kristen
Speaker 1: and I love Kristen and Brodie. So when Kristen said
Speaker 1: are you gonna kiss me? Which I thought he was,
Speaker 1: I actually thought he was, then I was like, is
Speaker 1: this so weird now? Because of Adrena, Like what is happening?
Speaker 1: I think Kristen is single, ready to mingle, so she's
Speaker 1: kind of like, whoever wants to kiss me, I'm down
Speaker 1: for it, you know. So I think she was like,
Speaker 1: let's kiss Brody? Why not? Wanted them to kiss, and
Speaker 1: then I thought it was so like Brody to be
Speaker 1: not You're not getting that yet, and it's just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what is happening. That's when I started
Speaker 1: the deep dive to find out is Audrina and Brodie
Speaker 1: a real thing? I don't know, Like you don't you
Speaker 1: just don't know. The Internet sort of said, maybe I
Speaker 1: see it, I see it happening, and I see them
Speaker 1: actually being a very good couple. Happened to the blonde
Speaker 1: girl that was in San Diego? She just vanished, sure
Speaker 1: from San Diego, you know what I mean? The bathtub,
Speaker 1: which also was so obviously because Wells has been here
Speaker 1: and we've had actual legitimate guest host we haven't been
Speaker 1: on the bathtub scene. Just to go backwards was a
Speaker 1: little uncomes for me, but whatever, But what happened to
Speaker 1: that girl seemed like things were going well for them
Speaker 1: and then she's just gone away and now it's Audrina.
Speaker 1: I feel like Brodie has a lot of bathtub scenes.
Speaker 1: I remember in the first season, remember with the dogs,
Speaker 1: the dogs in the tub with the dogs, and then
Speaker 1: he also had that really like shower scene that was
Speaker 1: kind of intense in the beginning of this season. But
Speaker 1: I mean, Brodie's hot, so I'm okay with it. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm just the episode totally overwhelmed me. Also
Speaker 1: because it was super emotional. That's why I can't wait
Speaker 1: for Ashley to get on because there's so much to unpack. One,
Speaker 1: she's got her drama with Heidi. Now she's furious, which
Speaker 1: was relatable at Spencer, and she had to visit her dad,
Speaker 1: which was I actually cried. Yeah, that was super sad,
Speaker 1: very very sad. Um. I think we glazed over something
Speaker 1: that I need to like go back to that. Christin
Speaker 1: Cavalery has the best style of that in my life. Like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's so epic. She is so fashionable it is insane.
Speaker 1: The black outfit and then even just the walking beach outfit,
Speaker 1: I'm like totally crush. It's so hard. And but what
Speaker 1: was that Airbnb? Sorry, that's the sweetest air and b
Speaker 1: Airbnb I've ever seen, Like, this is your rental anyway,
Speaker 1: go home. But the whole you know what they're all
Speaker 1: talking about Brodie and Adrina hooking up, and Caitlin is
Speaker 1: just there and she's so sad, and then she confronts
Speaker 1: Adrina about it and She's like, you know, like, look
Speaker 1: like that kind of sucks for me. And Adrina was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really close to Brodie blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And I literally was like, Adrina, take the hand, girl,
Speaker 1: she's sad that you just worked up with her ex husband.
Speaker 1: Like we can debate this though, because here's the thing,
Speaker 1: and look, I'm debating it as a devil's advocate because
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where I actually stand. Number One, Audrina
Speaker 1: did know him first. They were friends for a long time,
Speaker 1: so her loyalty obviously would be with Brody. So I
Speaker 1: got what she was sort of trying to say, even
Speaker 1: though she was saying it's so badly, she's saying like, look,
Speaker 1: i'm his friend. Also, it doesn't seem like anything has happened.
Speaker 1: It seems like they just talk all night. Impact unless
Speaker 1: they're just lying to us, they're lying. They're totally lying.
Speaker 1: Spencer obviously feels like they're lying. Number two, This is
Speaker 1: the confusing part for me because we know that Caitlin
Speaker 1: has a boyfriend. We also know it's serious because we
Speaker 1: know now she's pregnant. So I had that sort of
Speaker 1: like I know you're upset about this. In the moment,
Speaker 1: and I get it, But at the same time, you've
Speaker 1: got a serious boyfriend, even though you're downplaying it to Caroline.
Speaker 1: That's fair. But I don't think, especially with Adrina coming
Speaker 1: from divorce to I don't think she would be too
Speaker 1: thrilled about Caitlin hooking up with her, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and talking about it in front of her
Speaker 1: so like, although although Caitlin had some flirty moments with
Speaker 1: JB this season far, Audrina saw that her nose. I
Speaker 1: have no problem with Adrina flirting hooking up with Brody.
Speaker 1: They're both single, like why not. But in that moment
Speaker 1: when Caitlin came to her, she should have been like, hey,
Speaker 1: I get why that sucks for you. I'm sorry that
Speaker 1: you felt that way, and move on from it, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's what Caitlin was asking for. I don't
Speaker 1: think she was like, don't hook up with my ex.
Speaker 1: She was just kind of being like, yo, that sucked
Speaker 1: for a second, and she kind of just glanced over it.
Speaker 1: I think Caitlin, rightfully so had hurt feelings and felt
Speaker 1: like poopy just being there while everyone was talking about it,
Speaker 1: and just sort of was like the girl in the
Speaker 1: corner going who sucks? You know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: I'm sure she sort of felt it from everybody, and
Speaker 1: then she just happened to be the one talking to
Speaker 1: Audrina about it, and Audrea acknowledged in that confect chinals
Speaker 1: or whatever they call those things, that she messed it
Speaker 1: up and felt bad. Yeah. So then I was like
Speaker 1: upset without Dana for like five minutes, and then the
Speaker 1: confessional and I was like, okay, I startup, was like,
Speaker 1: this is so awkward. I don't even know if it's
Speaker 1: anyone's fault. Did you see them like poof Caitlin like
Speaker 1: in her confessional or whatever those things are. What are
Speaker 1: those things called interviews whatever? Professionals? Yeah? Yeah, when they
Speaker 1: just made her disappear, I think we have actually in
Speaker 1: the waiting room. Great, okay, bringer can I have so
Speaker 1: much to ask her about? Hi? Hi? Are you god?
Speaker 1: How do you look this beautiful? What is happening? How
Speaker 1: do you look? So we apologize because Wells is finishing
Speaker 1: filming at a secret location, so you're stuck with all
Speaker 1: his producers. But no, that's great, I love it, trust us.
Speaker 1: We are ready to talk about that episode. But how
Speaker 1: do you look this good? For people that don't know
Speaker 1: you literally had a baby, like yesterday, what is happening?
Speaker 1: What is two weeks ago? And it's because I think, um, well,
Speaker 1: I my husband has been tremendously helpful. Thank goodness, because
Speaker 1: now I have two children, and both my kids were
Speaker 1: up last night, so that was a little difficult. But
Speaker 1: I have the best nanny in the whole wide world
Speaker 1: that's been with us since my daughter was literally one,
Speaker 1: and um she's like family to us, and so she
Speaker 1: I pumped. I like prepared myself. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: because I breastfeed, so I beat every two hours almost
Speaker 1: onto me. End okay, I'm gonna get up. He was
Speaker 1: really good this morning. He sleeps a lot during the day.
Speaker 1: He just loves to sleep. It's totally different than my
Speaker 1: daughter because she cried until she was six months old.
Speaker 1: She had really bad call up. So I feel like
Speaker 1: this is so much easy child. Yeah, I will tell
Speaker 1: you the first week was horrific. I couldn't even walk
Speaker 1: for the first week. I mean I was like almost
Speaker 1: a ten pound baby I delivered. That's what I was
Speaker 1: gonna say. I was gonna say, like, if I have
Speaker 1: a cold, I can't function, and you like howd a
Speaker 1: human come out of your body a week ago? Basically
Speaker 1: you look amazing. Also in the episode this week, you
Speaker 1: looked amazing and it was this wasn't like I don't
Speaker 1: know what the words are, because it was emotional this
Speaker 1: heart first, very like touching scene. We are so sorry
Speaker 1: because the loss was tremendous and to do that on
Speaker 1: camera and be so vulnerable and just real the way
Speaker 1: you just spoke to your dad and it was it.
Speaker 1: I was crying like that was then the juxtaposition from
Speaker 1: that too, Heidi, and then at the end of the
Speaker 1: episode finding out what Spencers. I mean, there's so much
Speaker 1: this was your episode, truly and can I just tell
Speaker 1: you and I'll tell well, I was on the show,
Speaker 1: but like so when I went on that so I'm
Speaker 1: from fulsome it's like a really small town. It's like
Speaker 1: two hours outside of Tahoe. So we had a cabin
Speaker 1: there my whole life, and we drove Adrina and I
Speaker 1: took the drive to go to the cemetery because I said,
Speaker 1: I know, it's like not that close, but it's close
Speaker 1: enough to where I gotta go see my dad, Like
Speaker 1: I just haven't been there through the pandemic anything. And
Speaker 1: so it was like, this was my opportunity. I really
Speaker 1: wanted to show like that side of my life and
Speaker 1: more about me, and you know, it was really important
Speaker 1: to me. So I asked the production I was like,
Speaker 1: I really want to see my dad. Can we make
Speaker 1: this happen? They were like sure, Like that'd be great,
Speaker 1: Let's make it happen. And I hadn't talked to Jason
Speaker 1: the whole day because he had been snowboarding, so I
Speaker 1: literally had no idea about the conversation. I've been crying
Speaker 1: like all day, talking about Drena, about my family and
Speaker 1: everything that had happened, and you know, we were having
Speaker 1: like a really heartfelt conversation. And then I literally walk
Speaker 1: into our room and producers are already there. So I
Speaker 1: literally had no idea that this had happened. Because Jason
Speaker 1: was taking an app. I tried calling him when I
Speaker 1: was had gotten service back through the mountain, and he
Speaker 1: didn't answer, and so I was like, Oh, it's probably exhausted.
Speaker 1: He's been snowboarding all day. I walk into my room
Speaker 1: and that was the first time I had seen him,
Speaker 1: So I had no idea about all this stuff that
Speaker 1: Spencer had said. So it was I was so emotional.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm literally gonna I'm gonna lose my mind,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna fight somebody, because it was just you're
Speaker 1: in such a holt mode after all that emotion, especially
Speaker 1: on camera, it's just so physically draining and talking all
Speaker 1: this stuff. It's like reliving everything and pregnant. And then
Speaker 1: walking into that room and hearing that, I was like,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me right now? Like what are they thinking?
Speaker 1: Like that was what was saying. That was what was
Speaker 1: so sort of intense and powerful about that that conversation.
Speaker 1: And I'll call it a scene because as viewers were
Speaker 1: watching it like a scene, your anger was real, and
Speaker 1: then your fragility or you went into tears. It was like,
Speaker 1: because you're tough actually like you are, You've been through
Speaker 1: a lot. You're really strong, so we admire that and
Speaker 1: see that in you. But you were breaking down at
Speaker 1: the same time. So you were super ballsy and tough
Speaker 1: like this is unacceptable, and at the same time we
Speaker 1: saw your like heartache and sadness and just your love
Speaker 1: for Jason and your compassion. Every emotion was in that
Speaker 1: Will you just tell us more about like what you
Speaker 1: were experiencing Oh my. I mean I think it was
Speaker 1: almost like an out of body experience because I feel
Speaker 1: like that's fine, come after me if you want, but
Speaker 1: you come after my husband, who is literally a saint
Speaker 1: on the show. And I know I have not been
Speaker 1: a saint. I get that I'm very outspoken a lot
Speaker 1: of times. I have zero filter. I haven't had as
Speaker 1: much program as my husband, who's been like in out
Speaker 1: recovery for thirteen plus years, you know, so he is
Speaker 1: so much more grounded than me when it comes to
Speaker 1: triggering moments where he knows how to take those moments
Speaker 1: and like pause and my pause button was broken, so
Speaker 1: in that moment, there's so much hurt because it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's basically like in a sense, it was it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: last season, Hidi and Spencer and I had gotten pretty close,
Speaker 1: like they were the first friends that I had actually
Speaker 1: met on the show, and Hidie and I became really
Speaker 1: close during that time, and so hearing that from it
Speaker 1: was just like so below the belt. They literally called us,
Speaker 1: like last year during the pandemic, one of their employees
Speaker 1: was struggling and so Jason had helped them and like
Speaker 1: try to get them into a treatment stility, and you know,
Speaker 1: like he's such a stand up guy that I just
Speaker 1: couldn't handle somebody talking badly about my husband, especially during
Speaker 1: a pandemic when I know it was the hardest time
Speaker 1: ever for him to stay sober, right, And I feel
Speaker 1: like the timing was poor. Yeah, and you see this
Speaker 1: every day. You know, you're with Jason every single day,
Speaker 1: every hour of the day. You know what he's going
Speaker 1: through and how strong he is. And for somebody who
Speaker 1: sees him, you know, maybe during filming twice a week,
Speaker 1: that sucks because you're like, you don't know that, you
Speaker 1: don't know. The belt is a great description for it,
Speaker 1: because it did feel that way, like this isn't a joke,
Speaker 1: This isn't something to do like gossip about. This is
Speaker 1: real and you guys have been through hell and back
Speaker 1: and it And my question is was it all bs?
Speaker 1: Is this just bs? We know from some of the
Speaker 1: teasers that Jason had had a couple, you know, hiccups
Speaker 1: will say, but was it was it a year before?
Speaker 1: Was it was it was last year that he had relapsed?
Speaker 1: But the thing is so interesting is I feel like
Speaker 1: Heidi and Spencer, they try so hard to get below
Speaker 1: the belt. But Jason and I are such open books,
Speaker 1: like they don't have anything on us. They say that
Speaker 1: they have receipts on people, which is why people are
Speaker 1: so threatened by them, because they are they are malicious
Speaker 1: and he is vindictive, like he is the kind of
Speaker 1: person where if he finds out dark information about you,
Speaker 1: he will ruin you. My open and I don't care
Speaker 1: who are like we literally are an open book. You
Speaker 1: want to say something about us, fine, like yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they were on a podcast or something. They've blocked
Speaker 1: all of us so I don't see any of their stuff.
Speaker 1: But they had said something like, oh, they've changed so
Speaker 1: much last year. Action was doing kig stands and like
Speaker 1: they almost were breaking up, and I'm like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks for making me seem less of a square like
Speaker 1: I was doing to be like it awful boring, Like
Speaker 1: I'm so boring, You're just the MoMA. And I like
Speaker 1: to drink and I liked a good time. I actually
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun. And there's a lot of
Speaker 1: editing that went into place because everybody was drinking and
Speaker 1: everyone was having a great time. But there's at least
Speaker 1: that friend that like when they drink they try and
Speaker 1: get an arguments with you, which they didn't air any
Speaker 1: of the stuff. Like so last season when we first
Speaker 1: started filming, which was at last season, it was like
Speaker 1: in February, and the timeline is confusing. We understand, right,
Speaker 1: right right pre pandemic and Jason I were in a
Speaker 1: really horrible place, like we were on the verge of
Speaker 1: divorce and I was I was partying. It was like
Speaker 1: Brodie's beach party. It was my birthday. I got wasted.
Speaker 1: It was not a good moment for me, which is
Speaker 1: why Hoty was saying, like, oh she was doing cake stand.
Speaker 1: She changed so much. It's like I hope people would
Speaker 1: change after a pandemic. I mean if you don't, I
Speaker 1: don't understand. I mean everyone's lives were completely looked upside down.
Speaker 1: So if you didn't change, I don't dare you to
Speaker 1: loof to what happened in the world. Do you live
Speaker 1: in your own bubble? I don't understand. So I'm very
Speaker 1: happy I changed after the pandemic because it made me realize, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: my business got shut down. In a hair stylist, I
Speaker 1: couldn't work for you know months, um, my husband and
Speaker 1: I are all at home, we're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: our relationship or when to therapy every single solitary week.
Speaker 1: So during that time, I wasn't really in contact with
Speaker 1: a ton of people. A dream and I would talk
Speaker 1: and Hidie and I would talk every now and then.
Speaker 1: But when my salon opened back up, Stephanie reached out
Speaker 1: to Jason because she boxed out her Stephanie Pratt Spenserer
Speaker 1: sister and they hated her by the way like she is,
Speaker 1: like they don't speak about her, We're not allowed to
Speaker 1: say her name because otherwise and they do this like
Speaker 1: cancel thing where it's like, okay, if you don't say
Speaker 1: if you don't like somebody and you don't talk about them,
Speaker 1: then they won't make it on the show. How do
Speaker 1: you use to tell me that, Like, if you don't
Speaker 1: like somebody and you don't want them to be on
Speaker 1: the show, just don't talk about them because then they
Speaker 1: won't make the cut. Like she was the one that
Speaker 1: originally told me that, So I know that they were
Speaker 1: trying to do that with the Stephanie situation. So I
Speaker 1: did Stephanie's hair during the pandemic because she was desperate
Speaker 1: and I'm not in the I'm not in the business
Speaker 1: of like trying to fix family relationships. I'm in the
Speaker 1: business of making money. Like, so we came in amos,
Speaker 1: paid three dollars for a hair I mean, she's a client.
Speaker 1: So she comes gets her hair done. I fix it,
Speaker 1: and she found out and was livid. Like when she
Speaker 1: found out that I did her hair, she was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's it, Like I'm that's the moment when we started
Speaker 1: filming again that she started treating me differently. So we
Speaker 1: went to San Diego together. That's the first time I
Speaker 1: had seen her, and she kept acting so bizarre to me,
Speaker 1: like she wasn't being kind to me. The first night,
Speaker 1: we're sitting down at dinner, which they didn't air this.
Speaker 1: The first night we're sitting there at dinner, we were
Speaker 1: with all the girls, and she looks at me, you know,
Speaker 1: after drinking, and she's like, I have a problem with you.
Speaker 1: And we're like, okay, what's the problem, And she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you. It's an unreliable source.
Speaker 1: So then of course it doesn't make the cut because
Speaker 1: they can't have a story about something that nobody wants
Speaker 1: to talk about why they have a problem with you,
Speaker 1: and the whole entire time and seeing Ego, she was
Speaker 1: just acting so weird to me. It was like she
Speaker 1: was angry at me and she was like being so
Speaker 1: wild and drinking a lot. But it wasn't even that
Speaker 1: she was drinking a lot, is that she was trying
Speaker 1: to start with me the whole time. Like she's one
Speaker 1: of those friends where when she drinks a lot, she
Speaker 1: like hits you, you know, or like tries to like
Speaker 1: dance on you, and you're just like, can you just
Speaker 1: go away? It's kind of physical, like physical kind of
Speaker 1: like just yes, you're very physical, or she just tries
Speaker 1: to start something. And it was to the point where
Speaker 1: I was just getting annoyed because I'm like, well, what's
Speaker 1: your problem with me? If you have a problem with me,
Speaker 1: just tell me. Everyone at the table sitting there, like
Speaker 1: what's your problem with her? And she's like, I'm not
Speaker 1: telling you. It's like okay, so she's not telling you
Speaker 1: because she doesn't want to say the name on the table. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems very high school, you know. Yeah, all of
Speaker 1: this seems like in sort of crazy town to me,
Speaker 1: like there's so much to break down with all this. Also,
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes So is this sort of the
Speaker 1: start of the issue. This is the start, And mind you,
Speaker 1: before this had happened. This is why I was really upset,
Speaker 1: because before this Sandio trip had happened, and I found
Speaker 1: out on the Standio trip they had the girl's night
Speaker 1: that I didn't go to the night that the guys
Speaker 1: were doing, like poke night I was watching Delilah and
Speaker 1: a girl's Night. It was so insane, like her nanny
Speaker 1: I guess blocked out in a bush like they were hammered,
Speaker 1: like it was out of control. And she told Jen
Speaker 1: in Jen's house that genders are so much better than Frankie,
Speaker 1: and I was really pissed about that. So she just
Speaker 1: started saying shipped to people. That was just irking people
Speaker 1: the wrong way, And of course they obviously didn't air
Speaker 1: that either. Actually does this come do you think? And
Speaker 1: I know you're sort of we're just being armchair therapist here,
Speaker 1: but is it to get attention in the press, get
Speaker 1: attention for the show, or is it coming from like where?
Speaker 1: Like what's the why? I honestly have no idea. I
Speaker 1: really don't understand. I think a part of it too,
Speaker 1: like I think, she commented yesterday on Twitter someone MTV
Speaker 1: wrote like a real, real friendship, and then she wrote
Speaker 1: like fake friendship for me and Antrina, which is just
Speaker 1: so comical because Audrina and I live like fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: away from each other. We we like hang out a lot,
Speaker 1: we talk all the time, like we know a lot
Speaker 1: about each other. We are not just show friends, like
Speaker 1: we are genuine friends and we will be friends for
Speaker 1: a long time. And she had mentioned on the show
Speaker 1: when we were in San Diego that she didn't really
Speaker 1: have a lot of friends, which was really heartbreaking to me,
Speaker 1: because Heidie is a really she is a good person
Speaker 1: deep down inside. It's just she's married to this and
Speaker 1: I swear that's why she is the way she is.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that in like a total demeaning
Speaker 1: dick way, but it's like when Heidie's by herself, I
Speaker 1: feel like she's a different person. The moment Spencer goes
Speaker 1: into her head and starts like twisting things in her brain,
Speaker 1: making her think things, then she gets to be like
Speaker 1: this vindictive, mean person too. It's so confusing to me. Ashley.
Speaker 1: Here's the other question, what do you make of the
Speaker 1: comments they made in the press recently or on their
Speaker 1: social media like the show is horrible or what was
Speaker 1: that like? And the cast just I'm curious because it's
Speaker 1: just counterintuitive. Don't they want to keep doing it? I
Speaker 1: really don't know. I think a part of it is
Speaker 1: they've kind of isolated themselves from everybody because they have
Speaker 1: put themselves in this spot where they I don't know
Speaker 1: if they feel like better than everybody or whatever. But
Speaker 1: we did have like a fun little premiere party and
Speaker 1: you know, everyone was invited except for them, and that
Speaker 1: that we like hosts like Caitlin's Friend hosted or whatever,
Speaker 1: and a lot of us have gotten really close, and
Speaker 1: that's I think maybe they feel a little bit like
Speaker 1: outsiders because a lot of us do hang out, Like
Speaker 1: I have a group text message with all the girls
Speaker 1: from the show except for her, and when I had
Speaker 1: the baby, I immediately text them because they've become my
Speaker 1: friends and I really like them, and a lot of
Speaker 1: them have been there for me through, you know, besides
Speaker 1: just the pandemic, like there for me as you know,
Speaker 1: support in my life, really supportive of me and Jason,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it makes me sad a little
Speaker 1: bit because I know them a little bit and they
Speaker 1: I think that genuinely. They are good people, and Heidi's
Speaker 1: is very sweet. It's weird you can't figure out who
Speaker 1: the real people are. I mean, that's kind of what
Speaker 1: I said in a lot of my interviews because I
Speaker 1: felt like last season I got to know this Heidi
Speaker 1: that was her Colorado down to earth hiking Heidi, and
Speaker 1: then this season it was like she had her makeup
Speaker 1: artist with seven, like touching up her makeup and butt
Speaker 1: cheeks at the beach. It was just so and I
Speaker 1: don't want to say the word fake. I guess I
Speaker 1: used fake, but it just didn't feel like authentically who
Speaker 1: she was. It felt like she was trying so hard
Speaker 1: to be someone else, and it was just weird, you know.
Speaker 1: I just felt like, who is this person? What happened?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? Wow? I mean it's just so much.
Speaker 1: And then so you've got sort of the situation with
Speaker 1: Heidi where and I felt bad for Adrina because I
Speaker 1: don't think she had any intentions of causing She never does.
Speaker 1: She sometimes will drink a little bit and say something
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are you doing? Stump stump. Adrina
Speaker 1: is the sweetest, coolest person, Like she really is one
Speaker 1: of my favorite people. She's and she's a great friend
Speaker 1: and super loyal, so she's sort of gotten hot water.
Speaker 1: And well, actually, while we're on the topic, what was
Speaker 1: it like for you meeting Kristen because an old friend
Speaker 1: of Jason's from high school. I mean, they've known each
Speaker 1: other for so long, and that was your first time
Speaker 1: meeting two episodes ago at the party. Yeah, she's really
Speaker 1: really cool. I mean I've only heard great things about her,
Speaker 1: and my husband loves her if he thinks she's like
Speaker 1: the coolest girl. So when I met her, she was
Speaker 1: really sweet, super nice. I mean, I love all of
Speaker 1: her stuff that she's doing. She's kind of like a
Speaker 1: little bit of an idol in my eyes, because we
Speaker 1: think she's like the rattest chick ever. She is done
Speaker 1: so tremendously and she cares so much about her kids.
Speaker 1: I love, which is, you know, like it it's really
Speaker 1: amazing to see somebody that's in such a big spotlight.
Speaker 1: But then she decides not to show her kids and
Speaker 1: all the things that she does to kind of protect them,
Speaker 1: and I really admire that about her. She really is authentic.
Speaker 1: The person you see on camera is the person behind
Speaker 1: the scenes off camera. She's just cool, says what she feels,
Speaker 1: but she actually is so kind and nice and she's
Speaker 1: just a rad little chick. I thought she really added
Speaker 1: a great sort of spice to the ground. I thought
Speaker 1: she was awesome. I mean maybe really, you know, it's
Speaker 1: you're in such a big group setting. I've never like
Speaker 1: sat down and had a real conversation with her anything
Speaker 1: like that besides just filming together. But she seems so
Speaker 1: down to earth. And I loved that Jason had said that,
Speaker 1: you know, she's the same girl that she was back
Speaker 1: in high school, which is awesome. You don't want to
Speaker 1: see people that change too much with fame and everything else.
Speaker 1: And I thought that that was really commendable of him
Speaker 1: to say that about her. It just shows really her
Speaker 1: character and who she is as an individual. So I
Speaker 1: love that. So speaking of um, Kristen and Brody and Audrina,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say all three of them. Um. We
Speaker 1: see that like iconic scene where like Kristen asked Brodie,
Speaker 1: are you gonna kiss me? And He's like, you don't
Speaker 1: deserve that. Yeah. I literally was watching that and I
Speaker 1: was thinking, like, we are they gonna kiss? I literally
Speaker 1: was like, this is really great. What's going on. I
Speaker 1: thought it was a great. I thought the whole thing was.
Speaker 1: I really wanted it too, but I I did, But
Speaker 1: then I was like, this might be so weird. What
Speaker 1: if they kissed and what's gonna happen. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're good. We all felt it because it's like
Speaker 1: I do like him with Audrina. But then I also
Speaker 1: was like, oh I love him with Kristen. What's happening?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, no, But I think we were talking about
Speaker 1: this a little bit before you joined, about the Brody
Speaker 1: and Audrina, and I'm shocked they hadn't hooked up before
Speaker 1: if they hadn't, you know, like they say they haven't,
Speaker 1: but they always say they hadn't. And I trust Audrina
Speaker 1: that she says that they hadn't, but it is so confusing,
Speaker 1: like I don't even know. I mean, honestly, she's always
Speaker 1: told me no, but I swear. I'm like, they do
Speaker 1: have really, they do have really great chemistry. Last name was,
Speaker 1: when I was watching that back about the Caitlin things
Speaker 1: sitting at the table, I felt, really, yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: got to they always like Spencer and Hettie always do
Speaker 1: that to Brodie and Audrina though anytime we're together like
Speaker 1: Bernie and Andrena, you know, like they've been doing that
Speaker 1: for That's the confusing part, because it's like we want
Speaker 1: Brodie and Audrina to be together as fans, you know,
Speaker 1: we've been watching this for so many years. It's like
Speaker 1: they would be great together. It was the one time
Speaker 1: where Spencer said something that I actually was like, we
Speaker 1: might be right, Like there must be more to this
Speaker 1: than we know. At the same time, you do feel
Speaker 1: bad for Caitlin, but in real life we know Caitlin
Speaker 1: is doing great and happy, so you're sort of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can go back to wanting Audrina and Brodie again. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it is such like interesting pairing. But they have
Speaker 1: like this weird, unspokeable connection. They do it like everything
Speaker 1: that they were saying is a hundred percent accurate. Like
Speaker 1: they do sit up and talk for hours and like
Speaker 1: who does that. That's like your soul mate, right when
Speaker 1: you for hours someone. He's such a good friend. I'm like,
Speaker 1: if they hadn't baby, settle down. If they had a baby, man,
Speaker 1: that child would be so good looking and so athletic.
Speaker 1: I would love for Brodie to have a baby. I
Speaker 1: think a baby is kind of like what Brodie needs,
Speaker 1: you know, like Brodie at that point where he sort
Speaker 1: of is ready to like settle down. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's I didn't get to know Brodie very well last season,
Speaker 1: and I did get to know him a little bit
Speaker 1: better this season, and I had um he he is
Speaker 1: a really sweet guy. Just his life is just so complicated.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine, like all the stuff that he's had
Speaker 1: to endure, like just being raised in an environment already
Speaker 1: like with so much cloud. I guess I would say
Speaker 1: in a weird way, but you know, it's not an
Speaker 1: easy road, you know, so weird because we've known all
Speaker 1: of you for a decade, you know, or longer whenever
Speaker 1: The Hill started, because from behind the scenes, we've been
Speaker 1: interviewing you guys and spending time with you guys, and
Speaker 1: so we know everybody a little bit. And Brodie is
Speaker 1: a great guy. He does have a great mom, so
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think I think he do
Speaker 1: fine as a dad. It's just so complicated for you
Speaker 1: all the show and then the magnifying glass that is
Speaker 1: put on you. I mean, let's talk about your husband
Speaker 1: for a second, because we love him. He is great isn't.
Speaker 1: It's so glad you guys like this last year has
Speaker 1: been so instrumental for him because he's become so much
Speaker 1: more confident in himself because of his recovery, Whereas last season,
Speaker 1: I don't think you guys got to see that because
Speaker 1: he was still struggling, So it wasn't like he was
Speaker 1: feeling so confident in his own self and who he
Speaker 1: was where he could actually voice his opinions or anything
Speaker 1: like that. And so this season I feel like you
Speaker 1: really get to see him exactly do because he looks great.
Speaker 1: You can see it from the inside out. And Wells
Speaker 1: and Jason have had some amazing conversations over the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. And you know, obviously I've done so
Speaker 1: many things with Jason. He's such a good guy, like
Speaker 1: like the greatest. Honestly, his demons are there and they
Speaker 1: will always be there, but he is such a good guy.
Speaker 1: And you see it in the episode where they go
Speaker 1: with Justin Bobby two is old home and playing tennis.
Speaker 1: He's just a nice guy who has like a really
Speaker 1: great heart. And so for you, like, I think that
Speaker 1: seemed to be some of the anger that you were
Speaker 1: experiencing when you found out what was happening, So like,
Speaker 1: how is your relationship right now? And just tell us
Speaker 1: a little about like what's going on, you know, the
Speaker 1: baby and just everything that's happening for the two of you.
Speaker 1: How is that watching that for him to sort of
Speaker 1: have to live that again? I think it was Well.
Speaker 1: Next week's episode is going to be way earlier than
Speaker 1: this week's episode, so I think that one's gonna be
Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult for us to watch. This
Speaker 1: is just the beginning. Oh my god, wow, oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it got really bad, like really bad. Like let's
Speaker 1: just say, I'm maybe hawd to be held back in
Speaker 1: certain situations. It's so weird because as talking to you
Speaker 1: more like you know, on a personal level, I don't
Speaker 1: want that for you, But as a viewer fan, like
Speaker 1: I can't wait, do you know what I mean? It's
Speaker 1: such a weak thing because it's like it's so juicy,
Speaker 1: like we were talking about it's like I love it all.
Speaker 1: But then you're like, oh god, this is real, So
Speaker 1: how do you start? And that was so these last
Speaker 1: I mean all it's so hard because for Jason and I,
Speaker 1: like we are we play everything out end to who
Speaker 1: we are, because that's what we said in the beginning,
Speaker 1: like we're not going to really sugarcoat anything, like this
Speaker 1: is our life, this is our story. If they want
Speaker 1: to see it, then whatever. I can't speak for everybody
Speaker 1: else and say that everything that they do is a
Speaker 1: true to who they are or whatever their storyline is
Speaker 1: or whatever. But Jason and I through and through like this,
Speaker 1: this was intense. I definitely had some PTSD after this
Speaker 1: Tahoe trip, that's for sure. Um So I think next
Speaker 1: week it'll be harder to watch this. We actually watched
Speaker 1: the episode last night on the East Coast time at
Speaker 1: six o'clock and I was like feeding Wyatt and Delilah
Speaker 1: was watching and she really likes the show Spirit, so
Speaker 1: she's like, can we just watch Spirit? Like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I think there's a new Spirit for her too. I
Speaker 1: think I was the greatest. It's I cried to the theater.
Speaker 1: How's it? Going back to the It was amazing. My
Speaker 1: husband was like we Jason was like, we really need
Speaker 1: to go to Like I knew he would want to
Speaker 1: go to the bougie theater and I'm like, no, Like
Speaker 1: we are not starting her off and going to a
Speaker 1: bougie theater, Like we are going to the worst movie
Speaker 1: here we can find. We're getting crappy popcorn and like
Speaker 1: bunch of crunch and we're gonna dump them all in
Speaker 1: and like it's not gonna be Synopolis, you know, super fancy.
Speaker 1: Because she's never been I don't know, I was gonna
Speaker 1: say so, was this her first movie in a theater?
Speaker 1: Her second? We went in two right before the Pandemic,
Speaker 1: but she was so young that she didn't really remember it.
Speaker 1: So when we went again, she loved it. She thought
Speaker 1: it was so cool, and you know, they did have
Speaker 1: the you know, they were climbed. I was, you know,
Speaker 1: speaking of pandemic. I am speaking of the pandemic and
Speaker 1: sort of because you guys were filming during it wasn't
Speaker 1: the worst part. It was sort of you were coming
Speaker 1: out of the worst part there was. I don't mind
Speaker 1: the masks. There's something about it that's sort of sexy,
Speaker 1: Like how Kristin Cavalery made taking off a mask looks
Speaker 1: like and I sort of like that everyone's wearing them.
Speaker 1: How taking off the bra when you get home, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, how they got you all to Tahoe
Speaker 1: safely in a COVID bubble. I don't even. I couldn't even.
Speaker 1: I was trying to do the math. I'm like, did
Speaker 1: they quarantine them? How did they do this? Like? So
Speaker 1: we literally got tested more than I could ever imagine
Speaker 1: in my lifetime. So did my whole family. The fact
Speaker 1: that we got to go was incredible. I'm so grateful.
Speaker 1: A lot of the places where we stayed like they
Speaker 1: didn't have anybody else at the whole hood. That's what
Speaker 1: I figured. I'm actually doing this podcast from Tahoe. I
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of fitting. And I'm intah, I
Speaker 1: totally know that the landing. The landing is adorable. Where
Speaker 1: you guys, Yeah, so we had a cabin in Trucky
Speaker 1: like my whole life. Yeah, I'm right by Trucky right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tahoe Donner is my favorite. I mean, little Chucky town
Speaker 1: is the best, the best. That's why I'm glad you
Speaker 1: said it was fulsome because I was trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: like where are they driving to? Like, where are they going?
Speaker 1: Where were you guys skiing? Was that heavenly? No, they
Speaker 1: couldn't get heavenly. They had to do a private course. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they had to drive like to Howard, you know,
Speaker 1: but it did look like you all were having fun.
Speaker 1: Skiing actually is a fairly safe COVID activity, so it's
Speaker 1: like you all got to sort of have a nice vacation. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was really nice. We did some other
Speaker 1: fun like activities when we were there, and it ended
Speaker 1: up snowing. It was so magical, So it was really
Speaker 1: fun and it ended up being like a really really
Speaker 1: cool trip. But I'm so appreciative of the fact that
Speaker 1: we are so we were so fortunate, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to discredit that because everybody else was struggling so
Speaker 1: hard and here we are being able to work and
Speaker 1: film and the fact that the crew could be able
Speaker 1: to do I appreciate saying that, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: we're enjoying watching it, So I get why TV production
Speaker 1: works so hard to go back. So what now actually,
Speaker 1: Like that's my question, is like what happens now in
Speaker 1: real life? And if you all film again, Like I know,
Speaker 1: there's still we've still got a ways to go before
Speaker 1: the finale of this season, but it's like intense and
Speaker 1: how do you sort of, I don't know, like interact
Speaker 1: with these people when there's these hard times or you
Speaker 1: just cut it off. You're like, I can't deal with this,
Speaker 1: you know what. In senses, I cut it off. And
Speaker 1: then another sense is I have to realize, Okay, you're
Speaker 1: going to run into people the rest of your life regardless,
Speaker 1: So why don't we take this opportunity and figure out
Speaker 1: a way to coexist so we can show viewers how
Speaker 1: to deal with life on life's terms. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: really what it comes down to. You can't avoid people
Speaker 1: the rest of your life that you're on a show with.
Speaker 1: I wish it sometimes I could. But and you have
Speaker 1: made really good friendships. I mean, I think just hearing
Speaker 1: about your relationship with Audrina, and I get it. She
Speaker 1: I'm friends with Audrina too, and I love her, I think,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like there is some good that
Speaker 1: comes from you all having to kind of go through
Speaker 1: this strange Yeah. I mean, I will say, it's not
Speaker 1: like things are It's not like things are good between
Speaker 1: us and the products, right, I'm sure we'll see it
Speaker 1: play out. It's yeah. I mean the fact that they're
Speaker 1: still speaking like so poorly about us, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well I guess we're back at steff one. Yeah. Look,
Speaker 1: I think for for people that haven't discovered The Hills
Speaker 1: New Beginnings like do because it is a really good show,
Speaker 1: like it is, it's great television watching, especially now that
Speaker 1: we're in the summer. So, D can you make a
Speaker 1: prediction if you think you guys will be back? I
Speaker 1: can't get a read. I've been trying to like figure
Speaker 1: it out from MTV. So we have not been told yet,
Speaker 1: and I'm hoping we will be because that's the thing,
Speaker 1: Like I do feel like finally, friendships are becoming so
Speaker 1: close that it would be really nice to see how
Speaker 1: they evolve. For instance, like Caroline and Caroline and I
Speaker 1: become really close, and Caitlin and I have become really close,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'd love to see how her pregnancy
Speaker 1: plays out and everything else. I think her life is
Speaker 1: taking off in a whole another level, and I'd be
Speaker 1: really cool to see like that side of her life
Speaker 1: and what that looks like. And you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if a lot of people know, but she's a
Speaker 1: writer and she writes some amazing stuff, and so seeing
Speaker 1: that side of her and you know, all that and
Speaker 1: Caroline and her pasta sauce and Jenn and Frankie you know,
Speaker 1: I love them and they have a love justin Bobby.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he sort of had his moment because
Speaker 1: we we only saw glimpses in the original Hills and
Speaker 1: now he really we really like him. I had Jason
Speaker 1: on last time, UM. Jason said that you and him
Speaker 1: are very very close to just justin now like that
Speaker 1: that's like a new kind of friendship that you guys have.
Speaker 1: I love them. He's so cool. It's been really nice.
Speaker 1: I think everybody feels that way about him this season
Speaker 1: because he really let his guard down and open it
Speaker 1: up to a lot of people. I think he felt
Speaker 1: more comfortable as well. You know, everybody hadn't seen each
Speaker 1: other in a really long time from the prior season
Speaker 1: and then coming back and having the pandemic. I think
Speaker 1: it's like I was saying before in a few interviews,
Speaker 1: it's weird. But when you have this like really shifting
Speaker 1: time in life, a lot of times you want to
Speaker 1: try and find people that have the same common ground
Speaker 1: as you and understanding like, wow, you went through this
Speaker 1: and I went through this, and like we all were hurting,
Speaker 1: so we're all kind of coming together to lean on
Speaker 1: each other because this is what our friend group is
Speaker 1: gonna look like, right, Like, we're not really hanging out
Speaker 1: with anybody else to expose anybody, so especially during this season,
Speaker 1: because you were so locked tight that you didn't have
Speaker 1: normal life at the same time, and when you're having
Speaker 1: parties together, these are the friends you're partying with. These
Speaker 1: are the friends you're hanging out with. These are the
Speaker 1: friends you're lunching with, you know, and you're hanging out
Speaker 1: at each other's houses a lot because it was right
Speaker 1: you can't do anything filming at your homes. You're opening
Speaker 1: up your homes to each other, you know. It was
Speaker 1: it was a different kind of vulnerability that I love.
Speaker 1: And that's what sucks is like I hate that Heidi
Speaker 1: and Spencer bashed the show so much about people being
Speaker 1: so fake and then like no one's being vulnerable and open.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, actually show actually this episode
Speaker 1: look before we go, Like, I this episode was really
Speaker 1: powerful and I don't mean to like overstate it, but
Speaker 1: you were We saw so much of you. Your relationship
Speaker 1: with your dad was really beautiful. To see you talking
Speaker 1: to him and telling him about the baby. I mean
Speaker 1: that was it was just you were so like transparent
Speaker 1: and just showing who you really are. I thought was
Speaker 1: very sweet of Audrina to go with you too. I
Speaker 1: really was like, wow, that was to me super cool.
Speaker 1: And then we see that you know, boss lady come
Speaker 1: out and it was you're really you're fiercely defensive of Jason,
Speaker 1: and I think that's why your marriage will work, because
Speaker 1: you're you guys are just in it. And and that
Speaker 1: was really beautiful too. So I'm so glad we got
Speaker 1: to see who you are. Thank you so much, thank you.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. Yeah. I felt really grateful that
Speaker 1: they were able to air the things that they or
Speaker 1: last night, because a lot of times you film a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff and you're not sure what's gonna make
Speaker 1: it or not, and it was really important to me
Speaker 1: that they could air that. I think it was really powerful.
Speaker 1: I think there's so many people out there that have
Speaker 1: lost parents and it just makes it more relatable. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and then the mom wife came out and it was
Speaker 1: sort of beautiful like that's your husband and you really
Speaker 1: got that, like no, yeah, and that's why like when
Speaker 1: I don't know what, if you watch the scene again,
Speaker 1: it's like you see your your anger. But also your heartbreak,
Speaker 1: and so it was like, wow, to see both of
Speaker 1: that just was super real. So like it was an
Speaker 1: awesome episode. You know, it's like thanks for letting us
Speaker 1: sort of see it all, because that's what makes this show.
Speaker 1: Thank you, you know. It's like it's we care, so
Speaker 1: we're so happy you're here today. Well tell Wells, Wells
Speaker 1: will be back, and so you've got to come back.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it's gonna get intense. It's gonna get intense. Yes, scared,
Speaker 1: and I'm like a little bit too, a little honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm really scared because I'm really not sure what's all
Speaker 1: going to make the cut. And it was I mean, like,
Speaker 1: let's just say producers were like practically in tears. Of course,
Speaker 1: it was that intense. I mean like we had people
Speaker 1: coming up to us after that We're just like crying.
Speaker 1: It was just so bad. Yeah, you just can't I
Speaker 1: don't know if he can come back from that, the
Speaker 1: low the low blow in a time like this, so
Speaker 1: many people are struggling. It's just like, oh, that is
Speaker 1: not gonna end well for you. That's like I want
Speaker 1: to say, I'm so sorry and I can't wait. At
Speaker 1: the same time, like it's so I'm sorry. That is
Speaker 1: so jacked up of me, but it's like, I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry and I can't wait. Yeah, I'm I'm that's the
Speaker 1: hills for you. That's literally the hills. Yeah, oh you
Speaker 1: look so beautiful. You look amazing. All our love and
Speaker 1: best wishes to you, guys, and we and say how
Speaker 1: to Jayson. We think he's the best. Thank you, He's
Speaker 1: literally the best. I'm so glad you guys just get
Speaker 1: a seat out side of him this season and really
Speaker 1: see who he is. For who he is, you know,
Speaker 1: it's great. It's well, take care and and and come
Speaker 1: back because we'll be talking about thank you. I would
Speaker 1: love to come back, yes, and thank you for coming
Speaker 1: on too. Literally two weeks after, you know, it actually
Speaker 1: felt really good to put makeup on. I haven't more
Speaker 1: makeup and probably a month. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: what are you back in the salon? Like you might
Speaker 1: as well tell everybody, like, no, I'll be back in
Speaker 1: in twelve weeks of course, but the salon is open
Speaker 1: and everything, like oh yeah, yeah, I still get there
Speaker 1: and I love What what is your salon? You might
Speaker 1: as well say it if you want. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: own the salon. I rent my space, but it's indigenous
Speaker 1: in Laguna. Yeah, it's okay, congratulations and thanks for coming
Speaker 1: on of course, thanks so much, ladies. Ashley is fantastic
Speaker 1: and now we're gonna switch gears Super Fat to CS
Speaker 1: t Key. So Hannah, our other producer is sort of
Speaker 1: going to take over here because she's our big she's obsessed,
Speaker 1: So Hannah, and again, Wells is coming back next week.
Speaker 1: You guys, like, we get it, although I think we're
Speaker 1: giving everybody a good show. So maybe like we are,
Speaker 1: but like maybe just be nice in the comments and
Speaker 1: in the emails. We get it. We're there like d team.
Speaker 1: But it's all good. Wells, we'll be back, so Hannah,
Speaker 1: take it. Okay. So we have Amanda with us from
Speaker 1: CS to key Um and Hannah, if you can describe
Speaker 1: Amanda in one word, how would you describe her? Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, bold in the best way and literally the
Speaker 1: best way, Like you have been one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm obsessed with this show. I've watched it
Speaker 1: since season one and I just love how spoken and
Speaker 1: like you defend your people and like I think we
Speaker 1: really saw that in this last episode and this last
Speaker 1: episode was crazy, like wild, wild wild. Um, I mean,
Speaker 1: let's just kick it off with Julia and Kelsey's drama
Speaker 1: like that was crazy. Yeah, I mean, where do you
Speaker 1: where do you stand with that drama? Like they both
Speaker 1: have bathing suits bathing suit lines to let's just say
Speaker 1: you're going the beach this weekend, who's bathing suit do
Speaker 1: you wear? Well? Actually, Kelsey is sending me one right
Speaker 1: now and Juliet has given me a few. I love
Speaker 1: both of them. I told them I am not choosing
Speaker 1: because I think they're both great for different things. I
Speaker 1: think Juliet is more high end, going for more a
Speaker 1: different target audience. And Kelsey and she wants to sell
Speaker 1: like the Miami the days, like the nice, you know,
Speaker 1: fun bikinis with cool designs. And Kelsey's is such a
Speaker 1: good material, it's so comfortable. I love the design she made.
Speaker 1: They're just more simple and I think there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that, and I think it's somehow just became this,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like tur four on the Island, it
Speaker 1: was like Juliette was like, well, I brought everybody here,
Speaker 1: so I want to use those lats first with my shoot,
Speaker 1: And I'm like come on, guys, Like, it's not that
Speaker 1: big of a deal. I really, honestly after watching the episode,
Speaker 1: because um, I wasn't like right next to Juliet during
Speaker 1: the lap. After watching it, I'm like, you should have
Speaker 1: just walked away, babe. I feel like we need to
Speaker 1: talk about that slap, right, Hannah, Like that was really
Speaker 1: it was crazy, Like was it as intense being there
Speaker 1: in person as it seemed on TV? It was worse,
Speaker 1: worse in person, Like that night was so much crazier.
Speaker 1: I think they turned it down a little bit, but
Speaker 1: it was definitely worse. It was. It got crazy. I
Speaker 1: had to go and pick juliette up and she's like, no,
Speaker 1: let me go. Like I just still talked to her
Speaker 1: and like, baby, got to calm down. I mean, I
Speaker 1: felt so bad because it was Brandon's kind of big
Speaker 1: moment to show his music video that I know you
Speaker 1: worked so hard on and that was like a big
Speaker 1: moment for you guys, and then the second it ended,
Speaker 1: it just kind of blew up in everyone's faces. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was definitely not thought burn in by the end
Speaker 1: of the night. So and that was like the turning
Speaker 1: point on the island, Like that's where everything gets like
Speaker 1: hectic because everybody split up. There's so much trauma. There's
Speaker 1: he said. She said, like so much more to come
Speaker 1: to try and explain this situation because it's oh, it's
Speaker 1: so much to show, but I don't know how they're
Speaker 1: going to fit it all, you know. Like the forty
Speaker 1: minute episode, I mean it was crazy. You could see
Speaker 1: that things were getting keated between Camilla and Georgana, and
Speaker 1: then Juliette was kind of talking with Max and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, and you could see Kelsey kind of
Speaker 1: looking over her shoulder and she was like, oh, like
Speaker 1: what's Juliette talking to maximout? And then she came over
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is not good, Like this is
Speaker 1: not good at all. Something bad's gonna happen. And that
Speaker 1: happened like that. I mean, we were just sitting on
Speaker 1: the edge of the pool and they were just like
Speaker 1: talking ship to each other and I'm like, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: getting get a hand. It's getting really disrespectful, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you should go talk to her because you should defend
Speaker 1: yourself because I always been through a lot, so much
Speaker 1: special and I'm like, come on, I really feel for
Speaker 1: Camilla this season. Like just with everything. I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, she seems so sweet and so kind, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you have kind of been through the wringer
Speaker 1: with this relationship like this, that's a lot. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: been a lot, and I support her no matter what
Speaker 1: she does, but exactly been through it? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: she we didn't find out until a couple episodes ago,
Speaker 1: like what really happened between her and Brandon, and I
Speaker 1: think that gave the viewers kind of more of an
Speaker 1: understanding about why it was so hard for her, because
Speaker 1: i think for a while we were like, okay, like
Speaker 1: you guys broke up, but like you could tell there
Speaker 1: was something deeper in my heart just completely broke for
Speaker 1: her like that. That is awful what she went through.
Speaker 1: He held that in for a while too, and she
Speaker 1: didn't like to really talk about it with anyone until
Speaker 1: she was ready, and when she did, I'm like you,
Speaker 1: she was nervous about it. I'm like, you were going
Speaker 1: to empower so many women who think there's not other
Speaker 1: people that go through that, and because it's not that common,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's it's nice to know that there's
Speaker 1: other people that are there for you and that people
Speaker 1: can speak out about it. I'm like, that's really going
Speaker 1: to help a lot of people. So I'm proud of her.
Speaker 1: She handled it well. That was really brave of her,
Speaker 1: and like, I have so much respect for her. But
Speaker 1: I mean, everything that's happening, I mean, her and Will,
Speaker 1: things seem to kind of be heating up between them.
Speaker 1: I love them. I spend so much time with them
Speaker 1: on the island, honestly, Like, well, and take those group
Speaker 1: of guys like, they're a really good time. We all
Speaker 1: definitely enjoyed it. I know, I see you and Tate.
Speaker 1: I mean, are you guys still can you tell us anything?
Speaker 1: Are you guys? I know, yeah, but you guys are
Speaker 1: really cute together. And Will and Tate are just they
Speaker 1: they kind of like bring some peace to the island
Speaker 1: in a way. They're kind of like the voices of
Speaker 1: reason for now. I feel like that's a tease, that's
Speaker 1: a little spoiler, I know, speaking of which, um, obviously
Speaker 1: we still we're like halfway through the season right now,
Speaker 1: we still have another half of the season. What what
Speaker 1: can you hint at a at the rest of the
Speaker 1: season for us, Like, is there anything big coming up? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like figuring. I'm like, don't get anything to go away,
Speaker 1: but there's so many exciting new things coming with this
Speaker 1: run group, and honestly, like I didn't think we could,
Speaker 1: you know, like bring more, but there's just so much
Speaker 1: more going on right now, and I can't wait for
Speaker 1: everyone to get up to date at the end of
Speaker 1: the season, you know, and hear about what's going on.
Speaker 1: Now do you do you guys do reunion shows like
Speaker 1: at the end. We've done some in the past, but
Speaker 1: I feel like we need one this because there's just
Speaker 1: like so much between when this was filmed now like
Speaker 1: MTV needs to figure out a reunion special with all
Speaker 1: of you guys. Well maybe we'll get one. We'll see,
Speaker 1: I hope so. Um, but tell our our listeners what
Speaker 1: what you got going on? Where can they find you?
Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff. We want to hear all
Speaker 1: things Amanda. Um. Right now, I'm just um taking a
Speaker 1: break off of school and I go back for my
Speaker 1: senior year soon, so I'm excited. I'm working on a
Speaker 1: few projects and other than that, I really am just
Speaker 1: loving in Paradise and enjoying Florida and being in Cskey.
Speaker 1: And we have so many birthdays coming up, and so
Speaker 1: many celebrations coming up, so I feel like there's going
Speaker 1: to be even more going on, So I'm really excited
Speaker 1: for that. June and July are busy months for us,
Speaker 1: so I'm really excited to see what it what the
Speaker 1: future brings, because I know we're all going to be
Speaker 1: around each other, and I'm friends with everybody right now.
Speaker 1: I'd love to say that I'm good with Kelsey, I'm
Speaker 1: good with Juliet. I'm good with both sides, and I'm
Speaker 1: hoping to keep it that way. So we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens your Switzerland and cs T key try. I've done
Speaker 1: my fair shara of drama with these girls. I just
Speaker 1: got to have their backs when they meet me and
Speaker 1: just be a good friend. I love that. Well, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on. We appreciate it and
Speaker 1: we look forward to seeing you for the rest of
Speaker 1: the season. Thank you for having me on a good day.
Speaker 1: Bye bye, alright, han a good job. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I love cs T. I love that we pulled this off.
Speaker 1: We miss Wells. Thank God he's coming back. But okay,
Speaker 1: I can't wait for I know, I can't wait for
Speaker 1: a whiles to be back. I really really can't wait,
Speaker 1: can't wait for next week's Hills. I know, I actually
Speaker 1: really tease that up for us. I was like, I
Speaker 1: feel for people should be watching it. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many people are watching it, but it's like so good. Actually,
Speaker 1: Jason are so cool. I like, I just need to
Speaker 1: say that one more time. There. They really are the coolest.
Speaker 1: I also agree, but so is Kristen Christian Hilary. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I love her so much. Brodie, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to I love so many of them, all of them.
Speaker 1: Two people we don't mention anyway. So this is the
Speaker 1: Wells Cast, This is the Hills Cast. I wish we
Speaker 1: could call him right now. He'll be back next week.
Speaker 1: Wells will be back and he'll fill us in on
Speaker 1: everything that's happened to him in the last three weeks hopefully,
Speaker 1: or four weeks exactly. Foregosh, did we do a great
Speaker 1: job today? We really did? You know? Is there a
Speaker 1: sign off? Does well to a special sign off? This
Speaker 1: is a Wells gast with Hanna, Danielle Riley, and Amy.
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