WEBVTT - From the Window to the Wahler 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:04.320 This is a Wells Cast with Wells, Adams and I 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:09.360 Heart Radio podcast. This is the Wells Cast Hills Cast. 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:12.080 This is Amy and Danielle and we are filling in 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.400 for Wells. He will be back next week, so you 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.919 don't have to worry anymore. We know you're all happy 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:19.759 to hear that. So this is your last week with 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.200 a guest host filling in. But it's a super juicy 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.880 episode of the Hills, so we didn't want to, you know, 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.200 not get on here and talk about it. And Ashley 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.240 Waller's joining us in just a minute. She just had 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:33.600 a baby and there was a lot of drama in 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.160 the episode this week, so we definitely want to talk. 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:38.839 So happy we have her because this was such a 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:41.919 big episode for her with all the Jason stuff and 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:46.240 Spencer and I want her take on Audrina and Brody 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:51.239 and literally totally agree with you. So I had to 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:55.360 start because look, with the Hills, sometimes things can be 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.640 let's say, manipulated. So I was like, is this Adrena 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:03.080 Brodie thing fake? Is this thing real? And I started 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.440 googling it and like it might be real. So I 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.640 have two thoughts. First thought is I love it. I 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.559 do really like them together. I think they are both 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:16.960 kind of like bad, not bad, but um, edgy is 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.679 the right word. The both edgy. They're both very good looking. Um, 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.919 I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet, to be completely honest 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.119 with you. And then my second thought is Brodie really 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.360 needs to do something with his hair. Sorry, how to 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.039 say it? How to say it? I have on my 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.119 notes to ask Ashley about Brodie's hair. But wait, let's 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.160 let's talk about this for a second. So Kristen and 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.320 Brodie are going on the beach walk and Audrina is 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.720 in the car. They don't show her, but they showed 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.560 her enough, so we see her in the car. Okay, what? 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:50.400 And then that was so weird? And I love Kristen 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.880 and I love Kristen and Brodie. So when Kristen said 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.120 are you gonna kiss me? Which I thought he was, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.840 I actually thought he was, then I was like, is 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:05.320 this so weird now? Because of Adrena, Like what is happening? 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.320 I think Kristen is single, ready to mingle, so she's 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.520 kind of like, whoever wants to kiss me, I'm down 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.280 for it, you know. So I think she was like, 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.640 let's kiss Brody? Why not? Wanted them to kiss, and 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.480 then I thought it was so like Brody to be 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:18.960 not You're not getting that yet, and it's just like, 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.160 oh my god, what is happening. That's when I started 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.519 the deep dive to find out is Audrina and Brodie 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:29.040 a real thing? I don't know, Like you don't you 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:33.360 just don't know. The Internet sort of said, maybe I 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.400 see it, I see it happening, and I see them 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.880 actually being a very good couple. Happened to the blonde 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:45.120 girl that was in San Diego? She just vanished, sure 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.280 from San Diego, you know what I mean? The bathtub, 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.360 which also was so obviously because Wells has been here 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.600 and we've had actual legitimate guest host we haven't been 0:02:56.600 --> 0:03:01.000 on the bathtub scene. Just to go backwards was a 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.359 little uncomes for me, but whatever, But what happened to 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.400 that girl seemed like things were going well for them 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:11.440 and then she's just gone away and now it's Audrina. 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:13.799 I feel like Brodie has a lot of bathtub scenes. 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.440 I remember in the first season, remember with the dogs, 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.560 the dogs in the tub with the dogs, and then 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:24.840 he also had that really like shower scene that was 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.760 kind of intense in the beginning of this season. But 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.400 I mean, Brodie's hot, so I'm okay with it. I 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:37.120 don't know, I'm just the episode totally overwhelmed me. Also 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.000 because it was super emotional. That's why I can't wait 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.880 for Ashley to get on because there's so much to unpack. One, 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:50.280 she's got her drama with Heidi. Now she's furious, which 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:55.320 was relatable at Spencer, and she had to visit her dad, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:59.000 which was I actually cried. Yeah, that was super sad, 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.200 very very sad. Um. I think we glazed over something 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.560 that I need to like go back to that. Christin 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:10.320 Cavalery has the best style of that in my life. Like, oh, 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:16.720 she's so epic. She is so fashionable it is insane. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.720 The black outfit and then even just the walking beach outfit, 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:24.039 I'm like totally crush. It's so hard. And but what 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.320 was that Airbnb? Sorry, that's the sweetest air and b 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:31.080 Airbnb I've ever seen, Like, this is your rental anyway, 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.880 go home. But the whole you know what they're all 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.720 talking about Brodie and Adrina hooking up, and Caitlin is 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:40.239 just there and she's so sad, and then she confronts 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.039 Adrina about it and She's like, you know, like, look 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.240 like that kind of sucks for me. And Adrina was like, 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.160 you know, I'm really close to Brodie blah blah blah. 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.320 And I literally was like, Adrina, take the hand, girl, 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.880 she's sad that you just worked up with her ex husband. 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.120 Like we can debate this though, because here's the thing, 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.800 and look, I'm debating it as a devil's advocate because 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.960 I'm not sure where I actually stand. Number One, Audrina 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.760 did know him first. They were friends for a long time, 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:13.120 so her loyalty obviously would be with Brody. So I 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.520 got what she was sort of trying to say, even 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.120 though she was saying it's so badly, she's saying like, look, 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:22.200 i'm his friend. Also, it doesn't seem like anything has happened. 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.599 It seems like they just talk all night. Impact unless 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.880 they're just lying to us, they're lying. They're totally lying. 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:32.359 Spencer obviously feels like they're lying. Number two, This is 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.800 the confusing part for me because we know that Caitlin 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:40.159 has a boyfriend. We also know it's serious because we 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.840 know now she's pregnant. So I had that sort of 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.200 like I know you're upset about this. In the moment, 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.160 and I get it, But at the same time, you've 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.640 got a serious boyfriend, even though you're downplaying it to Caroline. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.680 That's fair. But I don't think, especially with Adrina coming 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.880 from divorce to I don't think she would be too 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.839 thrilled about Caitlin hooking up with her, you know what 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:02.680 I mean, and talking about it in front of her 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:08.120 so like, although although Caitlin had some flirty moments with 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:14.120 JB this season far, Audrina saw that her nose. I 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.480 have no problem with Adrina flirting hooking up with Brody. 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.359 They're both single, like why not. But in that moment 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.520 when Caitlin came to her, she should have been like, hey, 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.200 I get why that sucks for you. I'm sorry that 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.080 you felt that way, and move on from it, you know. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.360 I think that's what Caitlin was asking for. I don't 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.080 think she was like, don't hook up with my ex. 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.200 She was just kind of being like, yo, that sucked 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.160 for a second, and she kind of just glanced over it. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:42.400 I think Caitlin, rightfully so had hurt feelings and felt 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:46.560 like poopy just being there while everyone was talking about it, 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.440 and just sort of was like the girl in the 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:52.159 corner going who sucks? You know what I mean? So 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.520 I'm sure she sort of felt it from everybody, and 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.000 then she just happened to be the one talking to 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.360 Audrina about it, and Audrea acknowledged in that confect chinals 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.680 or whatever they call those things, that she messed it 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.200 up and felt bad. Yeah. So then I was like 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.000 upset without Dana for like five minutes, and then the 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.600 confessional and I was like, okay, I startup, was like, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.360 this is so awkward. I don't even know if it's 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.000 anyone's fault. Did you see them like poof Caitlin like 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.320 in her confessional or whatever those things are. What are 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.760 those things called interviews whatever? Professionals? Yeah? Yeah, when they 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.280 just made her disappear, I think we have actually in 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.840 the waiting room. Great, okay, bringer can I have so 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:41.720 much to ask her about? Hi? Hi? Are you god? 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:46.520 How do you look this beautiful? What is happening? How 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:50.080 do you look? So we apologize because Wells is finishing 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.960 filming at a secret location, so you're stuck with all 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.920 his producers. But no, that's great, I love it, trust us. 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.960 We are ready to talk about that episode. But how 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:00.920 do you look this good? For people that don't know 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.640 you literally had a baby, like yesterday, what is happening? 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:10.600 What is two weeks ago? And it's because I think, um, well, 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:14.360 I my husband has been tremendously helpful. Thank goodness, because 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.600 now I have two children, and both my kids were 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.960 up last night, so that was a little difficult. But 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.320 I have the best nanny in the whole wide world 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.840 that's been with us since my daughter was literally one, 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.920 and um she's like family to us, and so she 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.040 I pumped. I like prepared myself. I was like, okay, 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.840 because I breastfeed, so I beat every two hours almost 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.280 onto me. End okay, I'm gonna get up. He was 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.200 really good this morning. He sleeps a lot during the day. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.599 He just loves to sleep. It's totally different than my 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.280 daughter because she cried until she was six months old. 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.000 She had really bad call up. So I feel like 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:52.160 this is so much easy child. Yeah, I will tell 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.920 you the first week was horrific. I couldn't even walk 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.520 for the first week. I mean I was like almost 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.959 a ten pound baby I delivered. That's what I was 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.280 gonna say. I was gonna say, like, if I have 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.880 a cold, I can't function, and you like howd a 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.719 human come out of your body a week ago? Basically 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:11.320 you look amazing. Also in the episode this week, you 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.720 looked amazing and it was this wasn't like I don't 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.360 know what the words are, because it was emotional this 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:23.559 heart first, very like touching scene. We are so sorry 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.400 because the loss was tremendous and to do that on 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:32.800 camera and be so vulnerable and just real the way 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.880 you just spoke to your dad and it was it. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.640 I was crying like that was then the juxtaposition from 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.880 that too, Heidi, and then at the end of the 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.560 episode finding out what Spencers. I mean, there's so much 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.920 this was your episode, truly and can I just tell 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:51.280 you and I'll tell well, I was on the show, 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.640 but like so when I went on that so I'm 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.679 from fulsome it's like a really small town. It's like 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.480 two hours outside of Tahoe. So we had a cabin 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.160 there my whole life, and we drove Adrina and I 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.120 took the drive to go to the cemetery because I said, 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.120 I know, it's like not that close, but it's close 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:07.880 enough to where I gotta go see my dad, Like 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.160 I just haven't been there through the pandemic anything. And 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.200 so it was like, this was my opportunity. I really 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.800 wanted to show like that side of my life and 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.000 more about me, and you know, it was really important 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:19.800 to me. So I asked the production I was like, 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.240 I really want to see my dad. Can we make 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.040 this happen? They were like sure, Like that'd be great, 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.839 Let's make it happen. And I hadn't talked to Jason 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.280 the whole day because he had been snowboarding, so I 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.120 literally had no idea about the conversation. I've been crying 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.360 like all day, talking about Drena, about my family and 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.360 everything that had happened, and you know, we were having 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:39.439 like a really heartfelt conversation. And then I literally walk 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.560 into our room and producers are already there. So I 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.000 literally had no idea that this had happened. Because Jason 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.680 was taking an app. I tried calling him when I 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.319 was had gotten service back through the mountain, and he 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.400 didn't answer, and so I was like, Oh, it's probably exhausted. 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:55.040 He's been snowboarding all day. I walk into my room 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:56.600 and that was the first time I had seen him, 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.280 So I had no idea about all this stuff that 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.920 Spencer had said. So it was I was so emotional. 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:05.160 I was like, I'm literally gonna I'm gonna lose my mind, 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.559 like I'm gonna fight somebody, because it was just you're 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.079 in such a holt mode after all that emotion, especially 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.800 on camera, it's just so physically draining and talking all 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:17.160 this stuff. It's like reliving everything and pregnant. And then 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.560 walking into that room and hearing that, I was like, 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.720 are you kidding me right now? Like what are they thinking? 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.520 Like that was what was saying. That was what was 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:29.359 so sort of intense and powerful about that that conversation. 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.000 And I'll call it a scene because as viewers were 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.320 watching it like a scene, your anger was real, and 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.280 then your fragility or you went into tears. It was like, 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.920 because you're tough actually like you are, You've been through 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.960 a lot. You're really strong, so we admire that and 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.120 see that in you. But you were breaking down at 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.840 the same time. So you were super ballsy and tough 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.439 like this is unacceptable, and at the same time we 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:56.640 saw your like heartache and sadness and just your love 0:11:56.720 --> 0:12:00.600 for Jason and your compassion. Every emotion was in that 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.280 Will you just tell us more about like what you 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:07.680 were experiencing Oh my. I mean I think it was 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.199 almost like an out of body experience because I feel 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.840 like that's fine, come after me if you want, but 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.920 you come after my husband, who is literally a saint 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:17.720 on the show. And I know I have not been 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.959 a saint. I get that I'm very outspoken a lot 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.040 of times. I have zero filter. I haven't had as 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.079 much program as my husband, who's been like in out 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:29.680 recovery for thirteen plus years, you know, so he is 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.160 so much more grounded than me when it comes to 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.200 triggering moments where he knows how to take those moments 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:38.120 and like pause and my pause button was broken, so 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:43.800 in that moment, there's so much hurt because it's yeah, 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:49.800 it's basically like in a sense, it was it's like, Okay, 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.560 last season, Hidi and Spencer and I had gotten pretty close, 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.600 like they were the first friends that I had actually 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.840 met on the show, and Hidie and I became really 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.360 close during that time, and so hearing that from it 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.640 was just like so below the belt. They literally called us, 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.400 like last year during the pandemic, one of their employees 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.360 was struggling and so Jason had helped them and like 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.800 try to get them into a treatment stility, and you know, 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.800 like he's such a stand up guy that I just 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:17.040 couldn't handle somebody talking badly about my husband, especially during 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.720 a pandemic when I know it was the hardest time 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.720 ever for him to stay sober, right, And I feel 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:26.280 like the timing was poor. Yeah, and you see this 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.920 every day. You know, you're with Jason every single day, 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.320 every hour of the day. You know what he's going 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.600 through and how strong he is. And for somebody who 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.800 sees him, you know, maybe during filming twice a week, 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.640 that sucks because you're like, you don't know that, you 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.960 don't know. The belt is a great description for it, 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:49.839 because it did feel that way, like this isn't a joke, 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.360 This isn't something to do like gossip about. This is 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.280 real and you guys have been through hell and back 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.640 and it And my question is was it all bs? 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.000 Is this just bs? We know from some of the 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:07.800 teasers that Jason had had a couple, you know, hiccups 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:12.120 will say, but was it was it a year before? 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.040 Was it was it was last year that he had relapsed? 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.199 But the thing is so interesting is I feel like 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.960 Heidi and Spencer, they try so hard to get below 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.040 the belt. But Jason and I are such open books, 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:24.880 like they don't have anything on us. They say that 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.880 they have receipts on people, which is why people are 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.760 so threatened by them, because they are they are malicious 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.200 and he is vindictive, like he is the kind of 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.480 person where if he finds out dark information about you, 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:40.160 he will ruin you. My open and I don't care 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:42.760 who are like we literally are an open book. You 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.040 want to say something about us, fine, like yeah, I 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.120 think they were on a podcast or something. They've blocked 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:48.640 all of us so I don't see any of their stuff. 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.040 But they had said something like, oh, they've changed so 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.640 much last year. Action was doing kig stands and like 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.280 they almost were breaking up, and I'm like, well, yeah, 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.600 thanks for making me seem less of a square like 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:04.480 I was doing to be like it awful boring, Like 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:12.120 I'm so boring, You're just the MoMA. And I like 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.920 to drink and I liked a good time. I actually 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.040 have a lot of fun. And there's a lot of 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.880 editing that went into place because everybody was drinking and 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.160 everyone was having a great time. But there's at least 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.520 that friend that like when they drink they try and 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.440 get an arguments with you, which they didn't air any 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.680 of the stuff. Like so last season when we first 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:33.520 started filming, which was at last season, it was like 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.960 in February, and the timeline is confusing. We understand, right, 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.640 right right pre pandemic and Jason I were in a 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:41.800 really horrible place, like we were on the verge of 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.560 divorce and I was I was partying. It was like 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.200 Brodie's beach party. It was my birthday. I got wasted. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.000 It was not a good moment for me, which is 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:50.800 why Hoty was saying, like, oh she was doing cake stand. 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.120 She changed so much. It's like I hope people would 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.080 change after a pandemic. I mean if you don't, I 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.880 don't understand. I mean everyone's lives were completely looked upside down. 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.800 So if you didn't change, I don't dare you to 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.400 loof to what happened in the world. Do you live 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.840 in your own bubble? I don't understand. So I'm very 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:12.320 happy I changed after the pandemic because it made me realize, like, Okay, 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.320 my business got shut down. In a hair stylist, I 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.720 couldn't work for you know months, um, my husband and 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.320 I are all at home, we're trying to figure out 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.840 our relationship or when to therapy every single solitary week. 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.160 So during that time, I wasn't really in contact with 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:26.600 a ton of people. A dream and I would talk 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.160 and Hidie and I would talk every now and then. 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.200 But when my salon opened back up, Stephanie reached out 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.960 to Jason because she boxed out her Stephanie Pratt Spenserer 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.600 sister and they hated her by the way like she is, 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.400 like they don't speak about her, We're not allowed to 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.120 say her name because otherwise and they do this like 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.280 cancel thing where it's like, okay, if you don't say 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.200 if you don't like somebody and you don't talk about them, 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:49.560 then they won't make it on the show. How do 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:50.760 you use to tell me that, Like, if you don't 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.040 like somebody and you don't want them to be on 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:53.680 the show, just don't talk about them because then they 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.200 won't make the cut. Like she was the one that 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:57.920 originally told me that, So I know that they were 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.600 trying to do that with the Stephanie situation. So I 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.720 did Stephanie's hair during the pandemic because she was desperate 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.080 and I'm not in the I'm not in the business 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.159 of like trying to fix family relationships. I'm in the 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:09.960 business of making money. Like, so we came in amos, 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.080 paid three dollars for a hair I mean, she's a client. 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.000 So she comes gets her hair done. I fix it, 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:20.800 and she found out and was livid. Like when she 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:22.720 found out that I did her hair, she was like, Okay, 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.960 that's it, Like I'm that's the moment when we started 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.400 filming again that she started treating me differently. So we 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.240 went to San Diego together. That's the first time I 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.159 had seen her, and she kept acting so bizarre to me, 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.800 like she wasn't being kind to me. The first night, 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:38.560 we're sitting down at dinner, which they didn't air this. 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:40.120 The first night we're sitting there at dinner, we were 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.719 with all the girls, and she looks at me, you know, 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.320 after drinking, and she's like, I have a problem with you. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.560 And we're like, okay, what's the problem, And she's like, 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.840 I'm not going to tell you. It's an unreliable source. 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.639 So then of course it doesn't make the cut because 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.240 they can't have a story about something that nobody wants 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.080 to talk about why they have a problem with you, 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.119 and the whole entire time and seeing Ego, she was 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.760 just acting so weird to me. It was like she 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.640 was angry at me and she was like being so 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:08.919 wild and drinking a lot. But it wasn't even that 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:10.560 she was drinking a lot, is that she was trying 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.560 to start with me the whole time. Like she's one 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.119 of those friends where when she drinks a lot, she 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.600 like hits you, you know, or like tries to like 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.720 dance on you, and you're just like, can you just 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.600 go away? It's kind of physical, like physical kind of 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:26.440 like just yes, you're very physical, or she just tries 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.440 to start something. And it was to the point where 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.600 I was just getting annoyed because I'm like, well, what's 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.199 your problem with me? If you have a problem with me, 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.119 just tell me. Everyone at the table sitting there, like 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:37.719 what's your problem with her? And she's like, I'm not 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.920 telling you. It's like okay, so she's not telling you 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.520 because she doesn't want to say the name on the table. Yeah, 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.800 it seems very high school, you know. Yeah, all of 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:52.119 this seems like in sort of crazy town to me, 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.120 like there's so much to break down with all this. Also, 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.600 the behind the scenes So is this sort of the 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:01.960 start of the issue. This is the start, And mind you, 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:05.920 before this had happened. This is why I was really upset, 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.560 because before this Sandio trip had happened, and I found 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.439 out on the Standio trip they had the girl's night 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:11.960 that I didn't go to the night that the guys 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.560 were doing, like poke night I was watching Delilah and 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:18.479 a girl's Night. It was so insane, like her nanny 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.480 I guess blocked out in a bush like they were hammered, 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.520 like it was out of control. And she told Jen 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:28.680 in Jen's house that genders are so much better than Frankie, 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.719 and I was really pissed about that. So she just 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.760 started saying shipped to people. That was just irking people 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.520 the wrong way, And of course they obviously didn't air 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:39.840 that either. Actually does this come do you think? And 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.720 I know you're sort of we're just being armchair therapist here, 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.640 but is it to get attention in the press, get 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.760 attention for the show, or is it coming from like where? 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:56.480 Like what's the why? I honestly have no idea. I 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:59.359 really don't understand. I think a part of it too, 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.960 like I think, she commented yesterday on Twitter someone MTV 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.720 wrote like a real, real friendship, and then she wrote 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.399 like fake friendship for me and Antrina, which is just 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.520 so comical because Audrina and I live like fifteen minutes 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.200 away from each other. We we like hang out a lot, 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.520 we talk all the time, like we know a lot 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.560 about each other. We are not just show friends, like 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.480 we are genuine friends and we will be friends for 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:25.639 a long time. And she had mentioned on the show 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:27.800