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Speaker 3: Pretty starring for Fred Kursh today. Yeah, this is this

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Speaker 4: Love the show, and it looked like a Fred finally

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Speaker 4: said enough of the wrong stuff to get bored off there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I liked the joke.

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Speaker 1: I've always kind of liked his athleticism.

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Speaker 5: This package not gonna go off, Fred, you know, talk

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Speaker 1: I've never watched that though. What was that I've seen?

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Speaker 3: Cheers Canada? You got the full Northeastern I get it.

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Speaker 3: Stop whining no one cares and live with it. The

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Speaker 6: The most beautiful moment I had ever ever witnessed in sports.

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Speaker 3: All right, Welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 3: at Jillette Stadium, and we've got our you know, emergency

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Speaker 3: because Paul's out, he's at a funeral. Nobody we know,

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Speaker 3: UH and Deuce and Evan are in indye. Of course,

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Speaker 3: Deuce will be calling in at about one ten, so

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Speaker 3: we'll talk to him live, but we'll hold on down

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Speaker 3: the fort today. We've got a lot to talk about,

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Speaker 3: a lot going on in Indy. Mike Vrabel talked extensively yesterday.

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Speaker 3: He talked with the media, He talked with UH, Deuce

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Speaker 3: he was all over the place yesterday. Had some interesting

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Speaker 3: we'll take your calls at a five to five pats

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Speaker 3: five hundred. We'll talk about free agents, we'll talk about

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Speaker 3: draft picks. So we got a lot to go, a

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Speaker 3: lot to do. So what's on your mind? I know,

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Speaker 3: I know around here. Of course, we had that blizzard.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like it's been NonStop. We the blizzard

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, no, I knew. I knew it was gonna

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Speaker 3: snow that. I knew we were in for it this year.

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Speaker 3: But it was not in turn, I think record wise

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Speaker 1: Providence got hit for two days pretty bad, but like

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Speaker 6: The most it feels like the most consistent winter snowfall

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Speaker 1: It was every week and I was just showing it,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's our that's our trials and tribulations.

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Speaker 2: Some good ski.

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Speaker 1: Snowboarding the stages of grief, just just snowboarding, trying to

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Speaker 3: So yesterday Mike Rabel talked for a long time and

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Speaker 2: Strom's spoke to my soul friend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if I wanted, I just buy it.

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Speaker 6: You know that, and every girl with a retail edision.

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Speaker 3: Like, Well, the only difference is when you got a

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Speaker 2: I feel like they have the leverage too with it.

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Speaker 3: They do it, but like a guy like him, are

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Speaker 1: they liked him. I think he liked it here. It

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Speaker 3: Right, So that's where Elliott Wolf and the Crafts and

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Speaker 3: and vrabel earned their money, because you know, you got

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Speaker 1: And then, yeah, you hate like talking about players ageent

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Speaker 6: So I wonder if it's hard to imagine with like

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Speaker 2: Like restructure he so much.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I wish that was so hard to.

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Speaker 6: Put myself in his situation because I don't know, it's

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Speaker 3: It's like, I know, but guys like him that switch

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Speaker 3: not an impact guy right away.

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00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 1: But maybe through trade. Oh yeah, yeah, like I think,

439
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 1: like I think, bet on yourself. Your first round pick

440
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 1: this year is pretty much a second. Well, if you're

441
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: good again next year, that first round pick might be

442
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 1: another you know, air quote second. So if you get

443
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: a A J. Brown boom, you're great, let's go.

444
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I I think that's the way to

445
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 3: go is to try to pick up a veteran. I

446
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 3: agree somehow, whether it's trade or through free agency, I

447
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: don't know all the I mean, George Pickens is available,

448
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: but he's going to it's gonna be a big price.

449
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 3: Are they tagging him?

450
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's if he's been tagged, but

451
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 1: speculating Mike Evans. But if he's tag you're gonna need

452
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: to You're gonna need to trade and then pay him.

453
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a double wind.

454
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'd rather get a pure free agent.

455
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I listened. I wanted George Pickens when he

456
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: was first available. But he's a known head case, which

457
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: is if there's a coach that can knock that out

458
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: of somebody.

459
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 3: But so, but here's what I would do. So if

460
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 3: if my plan is to get someone who is above

461
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 3: uh digs on the depth chart, then I and I

462
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 3: can get them. I know I can get them. I

463
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 3: sit down with Diggs and say, listen, you're gonna be

464
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: a volume guy. You're gonna be number two. Last year,

465
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: everybody clamped down on you, especially in the playoffs. You

466
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 3: were you were the biggest target. Everyone knew that. This

467
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 3: year that's not gonna happen. You're gonna be more free,

468
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 3: So your volume is gonna go up. So we're gonna

469
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 3: cut your pay, but we're gonna add incentives that we

470
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 3: think you're probably gonna hit and you can make a

471
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 3: lot of that money back. Yeah, I try to. If

472
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: I think I'm going to get that wr one, I

473
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 3: try to talk him into that.

474
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 6: And that's I think it's not like totally unreasonable, despite

475
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 6: the typical persona of receivers, because I think he was

476
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 6: really unselfish this year already. I think he's probably gonna

477
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 6: be really realistic about where he is in his career

478
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 6: and again, like I just hope the loyalty comes in

479
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:57,719
Speaker 6: to play too.

480
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: Oh, I always made a goodoint. You're talking about incentives.

481
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 1: He hit a good chunk of the the number one.

482
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 6: And apparently he can come really close like mac Collins

483
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 6: did and they're still going to reward him and they're

484
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 6: doing good business. So it's like moves like that. Just yeah,

485
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 6: I love the direction for Abel's taking this in, you know.

486
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 9: So.

487
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 3: You know, whether it's A J. Brown or whoever, you know,

488
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 3: I think that Diggs has to understand that he's gonna

489
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 3: make me better. You know, he's gonna help me because yeah,

490
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 3: he was getting double teamed and bracketed and you know,

491
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 3: a safety coming down and you know, hitting him up. So, uh,

492
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: if you have that threat like a like an A J. Brown,

493
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 3: it's got to help Diggs and it's gonna help everybody

494
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 3: and then it helps the rest of the wide receivers too.

495
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: So who are your realistic options? Not through or through

496
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: free agency?

497
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 8: Trade?

498
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 1: Is it Pickens or I have to look it up.

499
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: Who's available? I think it's Pickens, Mike Evans, A J.

500
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 6: Brown through trade, Thomas Junior.

501
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, trade, maybe shooting for the moon here Justin Jefferson.

502
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so okay, so Pickens obviously Alec Pierce.

503
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: Like that doesn't Alec Pierce doesn't move the needle.

504
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 3: Doesn't move the needle. Mike Evans, you mentioned which now

505
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 3: but he's old now, Deebos Yeah, he's thirty three. Now,

506
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel is available. And I used to love me

507
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: some Deebo Samuel.

508
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: He was hanging on.

509
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: He was my favorite player in the NFL, but was

510
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 3: our quarterback. Yeah, he has lost two steps maybe three. Yeah,

511
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 3: he was here in training camp and I was like,

512
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 3: that's Deebo Samuel.

513
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

514
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 3: I still think he's a smart, hard nosed football player

515
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: and that's what I loved about him. But he's he's

516
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: lost some speed. So he's only thirty. So Dobbs is

517
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: available from the Packers. He's only twenty six.

518
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him too, but that he's kind of

519
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: similar to Alec Pierce to me, like, I don't think.

520
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: I don't think he elevates your team that much.

521
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 3: Juwan Jennings. So now we're going down one. Dale Robinson

522
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 3: in Rashid Shahid. Nobody here on this panel was excited

523
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 3: about him. Keenan Allen used to be good. But now

524
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: he's thirty four. Marquis Brown from the Chiefs, he's twenty nine.

525
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 3: He's a deep threat.

526
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: Did you have the trade and you have to be

527
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: willing to give up the picks?

528
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? So, I mean we've gone down the DeAndre Hopkins route.

529
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 8: Uh.

530
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: We we even had him in the locker room.

531
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: We can bring we can bring back Taekwon Thornton. He's available.

532
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 2: He was very pumped for us.

533
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 6: We saw him Kristin and I saw him on radio road.

534
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 6: Really really he was talking to us and just like

535
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 6: really pumped for us. Nice, so good kid.

536
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not in terms of that high level.

537
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 6: It's yeah.

538
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 3: And listen, when you've got Jamar Chase, so you've got

539
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: Jeff Justin. Jeff, you don't let them go. You don't

540
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: let them get the free agent.

541
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: Said, those guys don't get to free agent.

542
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 3: Right, you don't extend those elite guys. That's what I mean.

543
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't let those elite guys get to

544
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 3: free agents.

545
00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

546
00:25:59,320 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 6: Obviously a j.

547
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: Brown I think is the biggest game changer.

548
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 6: But like my thing is what was his biggest issue

549
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 6: in Philly that he's just trying to force himself out

550
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 6: coming off of a Super Bowl like that is just

551
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 6: such a red flag to me. I don't know, And

552
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 6: like to friend's point saying like, now he's going to

553
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 6: come in and share the spotlight with Digs, he couldn't

554
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 6: do it with Saquon.

555
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 2: I don't know.

556
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: It's just and people think that that's a marriage that

557
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: can't work. Again, I think if it's explained in such

558
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 3: a way that you know, you show Digs what happened,

559
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: my worry.

560
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: Is less Digs and more Aj Brown.

561
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 6: Well true, how unselfish our receivers are in this and

562
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 6: Rabel system and how they were this year.

563
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: I imagine it's not gonna.

564
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: Be But you explained the plan to Digs. You say, listen,

565
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna we need to establish aj as the number one,

566
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: as the guy that the other team needs to stop.

567
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: Once we do that, that's gonna help your production, HM,

568
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 3: because the double team's gonna go to him, and Drake

569
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: May's going to be a year better. He's gonna we're

570
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: gonna improve the offensive line. That's only gonna make your

571
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: numbers as good as they were last year better towards

572
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: the end of the season when we need it more.

573
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 3: Because let's face it. That's what happened at the end

574
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 3: of the season. You know, the team's strategy was shut

575
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 3: down digs and they become a little bit easier to defend.

576
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: We're back to twenty twenty five when the offense was

577
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: when the offense was easy to defend, and it became

578
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: that way because teams would shut down digs.

579
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, no, Alex, you're talking about head cases.

580
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: I think Pickens is way more of a head case.

581
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: I think Aj Brown, I think his stuff's internal in Philly,

582
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: and I think once he leaves, it'll be complete new player.

583
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: That's me personal. Yeah, sometimes you just need to change

584
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: of change of scenery. Yeah, but you know.

585
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 3: He's gonna make a lot of money pickings. He'll probably

586
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: get in that thirty million dollars plus range.

587
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 6: Hopefully it doesn't sitation so whoever it takes him on.

588
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: But we all know the love that AJ Brown and

589
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: Mike Frable have, you know, it's they seem to really

590
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: love each other. So whatever problems that AJ Brown had

591
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: with Sirianni and the Eagles, at least for a year,

592
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: you'll have a honeymoon period.

593
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: Was laid it on Thick too.

594
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm proud of him as a father like he

595
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 6: really was.

596
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: So you know, if I think I'm gonna, you know,

597
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: give up an asset and pay AJ Brown, I got

598
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: to have that talk with Diggs. And if the talk

599
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 3: doesn't go well, then I got to let Diggs go

600
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: and then you know, kind of figure out how I

601
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: make up for that. Now, let's just say that it

602
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: doesn't work out with Diggs, but you do have AJ

603
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: Brown who becomes your number two? Okay, And do you

604
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: think that he's the kind of guy that can compliment

605
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: AJ Brown? You know, because Diggs is a down fore guy, right, Yeah.

606
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: I think he can. But I think that that's a

607
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: situation where Diggs goes than a Romeo Dobbs or an

608
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce becomes a bit more interesting to me, and

609
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: then that frees up Booty And yeah, I don't know,

610
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: everything changes once you get the star players.

611
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's going to be interesting. It's it's going

612
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: to be interesting. And then, of course, you know we

613
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: talked about all this doesn't matter if the offensive line

614
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: can't protect true, so they have to pay attention to

615
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: the offensive line. What are they going to do with Wilson?

616
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: You know, Uh, Moses looks like he's going to be back,

617
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: but you know he's I think we got really lucky

618
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: that he was fairly healthy all season, and you know,

619
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: is that going to happen again. I think you need

620
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: a contingency plan at right tackle or will be. Yeah,

621
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: I think you need I think you need a plan

622
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: B at right tackle. You better have that ready.

623
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: I mean always should be just building the depth on

624
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: the O line.

625
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: But yep, all right, So that's those are some of

626
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: the topics that we want to talk about. Any other

627
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: NFL stuff going on that we need to we need

628
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: to talk about. No, nothing crazy, nobody acting foolish around

629
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: the league of the Jets.

630
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: Jets just make a trade.

631
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 6: I thought the Viking situation is really interesting in some

632
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 6: of their comments on JJ McCarthy and how like they're

633
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 6: looking to possibly improve the quarterback position, and it's just

634
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 6: so funny to see how they you move on from

635
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 6: Sam Donald and how it all played out for that.

636
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's crazy to think about how different the

637
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: league would be if Donald won that last playoff game,

638
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: where like the Vik's probably could have got three picks

639
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: for him last year realistically, so all the league would

640
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: be different.

641
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: So Anthony Richardson wants a trade. Do you think any

642
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: team will try to reclaim him as a reclamation project

643
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: and say, you know, the the athleticism that they saw,

644
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: we see and we can make him into a quarterback.

645
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: It's I think Sam Donald might have done irreversible damage

646
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: to the NFL.

647
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't even Sam Donald. I think it was go

648
00:30:59,280 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: back to Baker.

649
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, build that.

650
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: Seattle form Seattle.

651
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: That being said Anthony Richardson, probably one of the most

652
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: talented arms in the league. He's made. He made one

653
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 1: of the greatest throws, like in his rookie debut, Like

654
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: it's worth it. If you're a team that's struggling and

655
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: you can get him for a Day two pick, maybe

656
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: a Day three pick, why not. What do you have

657
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Speaker 1: to lose?

658
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Speaker 6: I think the Patriots were in such a good position

659
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Speaker 6: to be able to get a guy like Drake May.

660
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Speaker 6: But if they weren't, that's the route I would like

661
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Speaker 6: to see them take, Like go after a vet who

662
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Speaker 6: maybe like didn't have a great situation and just see

663
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Speaker 6: what happens.

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Speaker 3: So what do you think the deal is with Malik Willis?

665
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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I mean, he was in a

666
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: bad situation in Tennessee. He goes to Green Bay and

667
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Speaker 1: it's maybe like he has the arm. He's mobile, and

668
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Speaker 1: obviously everybody wants a mobile quarterback now. But I'd rather

669
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Speaker 1: take mac Jones personally, I thought mac Jones was playing wow, like,

670
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Speaker 1: if not for the Patriots, but if it was a

671
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Speaker 1: different team. I thought he was in a bad situation

672
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Speaker 1: here in the game Snowballs, No the game, the game

673
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Speaker 1: he's stepped in for the forty nine ers. He was great,

674
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Speaker 1: kept him alive while party was out.

675
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Speaker 6: I think I'd rather takes probably saved their season.

676
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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is going to be available, right. I heard

677
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Speaker 3: he might get resigned by the He might get resigned.

678
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Speaker 3: But has he earned himself some money? I think before

679
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Speaker 3: he got injured, but now, I mean, yeah he did.

680
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Speaker 3: He did earn himself some money. I'll put it that

681
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Speaker 3: I'd pay anybody off. Then Achilles, I mean, was his Yeah.

682
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Speaker 2: But Jason Tatum's about to play.

683
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Speaker 10: I don't know.

684
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Speaker 2: Achilles aren't what they used to be.

685
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Speaker 1: No, yeah, he has, he has earned himself.

686
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Speaker 3: What's his success a product of his own ability or

687
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Speaker 3: a product of an amazing running game that kind of

688
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Speaker 3: helped him?

689
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Speaker 1: So both? Yeah, both? But I mean the Giants is

690
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Speaker 1: just not the best situation to be put in. I

691
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: think similar with Malik Wilson the Titans. So yeah, he

692
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Speaker 1: can throw the ball, that's all takes.

693
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's confidence.

694
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's going to be a wild free agent period. Yeah,

695
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks always interesting, But any.

696
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Speaker 6: Somewhat proven quarterback I think they're just going to get

697
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 6: paid because of it's that's the position and there's a

698
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Speaker 6: need I think planing him.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, you know, the stock is rising

700
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Speaker 3: on smart, offensive minded coaches. Yeah, because I think we've

701
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Speaker 3: seen that if you put a you know, it doesn't

702
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: have to be elite, but a capable quarterback in the

703
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: hands of a really smart offensive coordinator, splash head coach,

704
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: they can succeed in this league. They don't have to

705
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: be Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes. You could have success.

706
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Speaker 3: And if then you build around that rest of the team,

707
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Speaker 3: you know, like the Colts, like before they had that injury,

708
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: like they were headed into the.

709
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Speaker 6: Playoffs, Pats were trailing them half the season until that injury.

710
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Speaker 1: Right, It's interesting just with the draft class this year

711
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Speaker 1: for quarterbacks, it's really just been doza and then you

712
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: have a really good draft class next year. So maybe

713
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Speaker 1: you front load the contract for the free agent vet

714
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Speaker 1: and then if it doesn't work, you can get out

715
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Speaker 1: and get your rookie the next year.

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Speaker 3: Yep, all right, eight five five pass five hundred is

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Speaker 3: the hotline podcast at patriot dot com. Is the email

718
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Speaker 3: address we got people already hanging on.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 3: It's that time of year where we start planning, we

721
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Speaker 3: start building herms in DC. What's up?

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Speaker 4: Hey, what's going on?

723
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Speaker 3: Guys? Hey?

724
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Speaker 8: Condolences?

725
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 4: So Will pass away in Paul family real quick.

726
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Speaker 11: So I think nowadays the society, I think it's just

727
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Speaker 11: this whole microwave society is just starting, like, you know,

728
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 11: bumming a little bit because there's been a lot of

729
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 11: talk about you know.

730
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Speaker 4: Will Campbell's la tackle this guys. He's fine, you know

731
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Speaker 4: what I mean. He had a it did have a

732
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Speaker 4: bad game at a very bad time. Nobody can take

733
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Speaker 4: that away from him. But he will get stronger, he

734
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: gets better. He's only twenty two years old. But we

735
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 4: just have to, you know, give people Tom to develop.

736
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Speaker 4: It gets stronger, you know what I mean.

737
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Speaker 3: So I hope you're right, Yeah, yeah, it will be Yeah.

738
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Speaker 4: He will be okay, Yeah, Will we'll stand but that

739
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, I'm just not get better.

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Speaker 12: It's just we'll be fine, okay.

741
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 4: And then we also have to be careful.

742
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 11: We have to be careful of wanting to trade digs.

743
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I'm gonna say.

744
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: You know, take it off here do you say careful

745
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: of trading trading digs? Trading digs? Okay? Why do we

746
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: have to be careful? I don't know, yes, who would trade?

747
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: But but going back, going back to Campbell. Something you know,

748
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: Alex you were mentioning before the show that Rabel talked

749
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 3: about is you know, we need to get in the

750
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Speaker 3: weight room, we need to get stronger. Yeah, you know,

751
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: like and he said that in general terms, like we

752
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: need to get stronger, but I know in his mind

753
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Speaker 3: one of the guys he's probably thinking about is Will Campbell.

754
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Speaker 2: And Elliott said as much. He said, I the strength.

755
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 6: And Will Campbell's lower body wasn't the same after the

756
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Speaker 6: injury down the stretch.

757
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Speaker 2: And it's just.

758
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 6: Without Young the team is too like Rabel's words, not mine,

759
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 6: like this is a grown man's sport, you know, And

760
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Speaker 6: I don't think really a grown man until you're at

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Speaker 6: least twenty five.

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Speaker 2: You guys sake this much better than I can. But

763
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Speaker 2: I just think, like.

764
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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's still not a grown man go right.

765
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Speaker 6: So it's just getting in the weight room is obviously

766
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 6: so important for those young guys. And Rabel kind of

767
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 6: expanded on this with Evan and Deuce and told.

768
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Speaker 2: A really cool story about Tom Brady.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you saw it, but he was

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Speaker 6: Rabel essentially was like everyone gives so much credence to

771
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Speaker 6: Tom and his playability and his resistance stretch bands and stuff,

772
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 6: but not enough people really think about the foundation he

773
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 6: set early in his career when he was squatting and

774
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 6: deadlifting with the linebackers and before he really got involved

775
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 6: with Alex, like he was heavy lifting, and really that's

776
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 6: really where he transformed his body as he came into

777
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 6: a grown man and tried to set himself up best

778
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Speaker 6: to play the quarterback situation. I just think, like putting

779
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Speaker 6: on muscle is so important for a young team. And

780
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Speaker 6: cool anecdote about Brady.

781
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, most of these guys that come,

782
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Speaker 3: you know, from college, if they're in Division one, in

783
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: Big ten or SEC, they probably have really really good

784
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: strength and conditioning programs and trainers, you know, because they're

785
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 3: graduates who are like learning, you know, and it's all

786
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: the latest stuff and everything like that. But your biology

787
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: still yeah, but it's still not your It is your

788
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: job in college. I shouldn't say that, But they still

789
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: don't get the twenty four hour type of attention that

790
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: they get once they become a pro, you know. So

791
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: there there is a leap that you can make from

792
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: a strength standpoint. Once you get into the league. You

793
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Speaker 3: get on the program, the program, Yeah, you get.

794
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Speaker 6: On nutritions just so much more dialed into, like yeah,

795
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Speaker 6: in terms of bulking and putting on Wii. And it's

796
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Speaker 6: just they're all so I don't know, like our our

797
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 6: team does such a great job with nutrition. I think, yeah,

798
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Speaker 6: Ted Harper, Ted Harper and Sam like they have plans

799
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Speaker 6: for every single player. And a lot of college programs

800
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 6: do too, the big time ones, but not all of them,

801
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Speaker 6: you know. And do you get the college athletes to

802
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 6: like buy into the nutrition all the time. I think

803
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 6: once you get to the NFL, these guys kind of

804
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 6: realize like, oh, everyone has this stuff dialed in.

805
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 2: I can't just get buy anymore.

806
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: Maybe that KEG party I shouldn't be going to you know,

807
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: you know, maybe I shouldn't be eating fast food as

808
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: much as I do.

809
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Speaker 1: Those aren't hungry anymore. In college. You're getting paid already.

810
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Speaker 2: I love the TikTok I saw about this.

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Speaker 6: It was it was about like the culture shift in

812
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 6: the NBA over the years, and it was like, these

813
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 6: kids are too rich to like care enough like compared.

814
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Speaker 3: To Well, that's a whole different discussion and kind of

815
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Speaker 3: Elliott touched on it, you know how nil is kind

816
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Speaker 3: of changing the draft a little bit.

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Speaker 6: It even goes before that with club sports and being

818
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 6: able to afford these specialized I don't know, that's our

819
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 6: rabbit hole that.

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Speaker 3: We Yeah, that's a whole different discussion. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: but in terms of, you know, just getting stronger, when

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Speaker 3: a coach, whoever it is, is that pointed with one

823
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Speaker 3: specific thing, because I remember years ago when Belichick said

824
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: we need to get faster, you know, on defense speed.

825
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: I don't think they ever really achieved that. But when

826
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Speaker 3: a coach says that, you know, there's they say it

827
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Speaker 3: for a reason. And the fact that he was like,

828
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Speaker 3: we just we need to get stronger, I think he

829
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 3: saw too many examples last year, particularly in the playoffs,

830
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 3: where maybe guys were getting pushed around, you know. And

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Speaker 3: so that's great Patriots fans. Let me tell you something.

832
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: You can feel real good that we are in good

833
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: hands when it comes to the head coach and this,

834
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: he's a smart guy. He's smart and ball. He loves ball,

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Speaker 3: he knows ball, can relate to the players, can relate

836
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Speaker 3: to the players. He's one at the highest level. He's

837
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: played multiple positions and every time he did it, he

838
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: did it well. Ten catches, ten touchdowns. Who does that

839
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Speaker 3: as a as a defensive end. So we are in

840
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Speaker 3: good hands. So that's one thing that you can count on,

841
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Speaker 3: Patriot's Nation. Uh, and sleep easy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because you had two rookies on the left

843
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: side of the line, which was shambles last year. Then

844
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Speaker 1: they both get hurt I'm pretty sure the same game,

845
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: like it was gonna bite them in the butt. Eventually.

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Speaker 1: It sucks it happened in the Super Bowl, but the

847
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: fact that we made it there, like, yeah, I think

848
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Speaker 1: Will was a bit more hurt than we thought.

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Speaker 6: And maybe, you know, Will also takes so much of

850
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Speaker 6: the heat compared to Wilson. And of course, yeah, Tuesday

851
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 6: it's about where he was drafted, but it wasn't all

852
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Speaker 6: on him. And obviously two rookies on the left side

853
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 6: are going to get attacked in the Super Bowl by

854
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 6: a defensive front that is like bone fight veterans that

855
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 6: have been here a long time and just yeah, the.

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Speaker 3: Only thing about and I'm I'm in Will Campbell, Campy,

857
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: But the fact is he didn't face the gauntlet of

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Speaker 3: past rushers in the regular season like he did in

859
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 3: the playoffs, and so did he get exposed a little bit?

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe now you have to factor in the m

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Speaker 3: c L. So we'll see. But you know, he does

862
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 3: need to get stronger, and I you know, you saw

863
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 3: hints of that even earlier in the season. But for

864
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: the most part, he was fine during the regular season,

865
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: but I don't the quality certainly ramped up in his opponents, uh,

866
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 3: you know, during the playoffs. So so we'll see. But

867
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: I am team Campbell. I I want this guy to

868
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: be our left tackle for a decade with you on that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I forget who was saying. Evan was talking

870
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Speaker 3: with Dane Dean Brugler. Dane Brugler, and by the way,

871
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Speaker 3: he's unbelievable. What an Encyclopedia to talk about it was crazy.

872
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: But anyway, you know, Evan mentioned, you know that, you

873
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Speaker 3: know we're going to stick with Campbell as the left tackle,

874
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: and Brugle just threwout, well they should, Yeah, And I

875
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: was hoping Evan would kind of follow up on that,

876
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: why do you think they should? But he just kind

877
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Speaker 3: of left it out there. Jerry Madelon wouldn't have liked that,

878
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: but yeah, so Dame Brugler said, you know, the Patriots

879
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: should stick with him at left tackle. So that that

880
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: makes me feel a little bit.

881
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Speaker 1: No, I think it's a bit crazy for people after

882
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: the first year when your rookie helped, like he did

883
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: help get you guys a Super Bowl, Now you're like,

884
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Speaker 1: move him to the left guard.

885
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Speaker 3: I know. But but the numbers, the sack numbers, I agree,

886
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: but they were historic and historically bad. H So you know,

887
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: we have to be level headed about it. You know,

888
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: we can't just be yahoos. We have to say that

889
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: area needs improvement, you know, it needs.

890
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: I just think it's a bit harsh after year one

891
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, this is all you.

892
00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 3: Don't give up on the player.

893
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think that's part of like you could quote

894
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: like maybe he could have been he could have been benched.

895
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: Maybe he should have been benched in that game. I

896
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: think low when he stepped in and showed he's serviceable,

897
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Speaker 1: But like what does that do to Will?

898
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Speaker 2: But what if Will Campbell's still is playing?

899
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Speaker 6: And Evans made this point and I love it, but

900
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Speaker 6: Ben Brown, a bigger body is next to him, and

901
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Speaker 6: you know, a veteran. So I just I that's my

902
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Speaker 6: like butterfly fact, like, oh what could have been if

903
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Speaker 6: they You don't want to do Smariel I keeper playing

904
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Speaker 1: You don't want to do like my coaches say, like

906
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Speaker 1: no more what it could have should? You're looking back,

907
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Speaker 1: but I'm with you. You just look like I.

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Speaker 6: Don't know, And I I get wanting those young guys

909
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 6: to get experienced, because those are guys that you've invested

910
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Speaker 6: in as draft picks and they're hopefully going to be

911
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912
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913
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Speaker 6: Bigger body?

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Speaker 3: So you know Will and others, Wilson, a lot of

915
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Speaker 8: Well, I'm mean I think there's a lot of things

986
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Speaker 8: So I know that Terrell will be able to help

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993
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994
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996
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997
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998
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,919
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999
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,360
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1000
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Speaker 8: for you know, guys like Robert Kogler who was able

1001
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Speaker 8: to go and be a tight ends coach in Pittsburgh

1002
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 8: and you know some of those things. I mean again,

1003
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Speaker 8: I there he will when I get back to Foxborough,

1004
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, I don't want to sit here

1005
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 8: and misspeak and figure out where that ends up. And

1006
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 8: you know, I've got a plan for him, and I

1007
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 8: think that that's in a vision is better than then

1008
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 8: the title necessarily, So you know, I just I don't

1009
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 8: want to say something and not have that be you know,

1010
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 8: an accurate depiction of what ends up happening once we

1011
00:48:54,560 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 8: work through a lot of different things. Yeah, well, I

1012
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 8: mean not only his future, but what he was able

1013
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 8: to do for us and come in and and provide leadership,

1014
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 8: work extremely hard and the time that he was rehabing

1015
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 8: from the knee, and you know, I think it's just

1016
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 8: a really good presence each and every week. And so

1017
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 8: as we look to evaluate the football team, you know,

1018
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 8: we're doing that constantly. We're doing that Elliott and myself

1019
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 8: and Ryan and Stretch and Elliott's staff, and you know,

1020
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 8: just being a little bit behind of where we were

1021
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 8: just how long the season went. We're those conversations for

1022
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 8: each and every player are happening in the meetings in

1023
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 8: between that we have with the draft players here. So

1024
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 8: you know, there's a lot of things that we'll do

1025
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 8: between now and the time that the football season starts.

1026
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 8: So that's going to be the same with with I

1027
00:49:53,200 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 8: would say most every player on our roster. M. Yeah, well,

1028
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 8: I think that there's probably some things that you know,

1029
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 8: go into them making decisions, and again, we want our

1030
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 8: players to make great decisions. And again we've we've tried

1031
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 8: to support those players that have some things that have

1032
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 8: come up, whether those are accusations, We're going to let

1033
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 8: the legal process run its course, just like we said before.

1034
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 8: Uh and and those players, whether that's the fund or

1035
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 8: anybody else that has something, has done exactly what they're

1036
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 8: supposed to do, be where they're supposed to be, communicate

1037
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 8: with this, with the court when they're supposed to communicate

1038
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 8: with them. So you know, we're going to let all

1039
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 8: that take care of itself, and then we'll have to

1040
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 8: see what the judgments are. You know in those particular cases. Well,

1041
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 8: I think that there's you know, just looking across the board,

1042
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 8: I think there's volume at the tight end class. And yeah,

1043
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 8: whether they're premium players or what people would say that

1044
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 8: their first round picks. I just know that, you know,

1045
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 8: when you go and you evaluate other teams and you

1046
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 8: get ready to play for them, there's a bunch of

1047
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 8: fourth and fifth round you know, tight ends that ended

1048
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 8: up starting and playing and contributing, and you know, so

1049
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 8: wherever that value is, I just think that there's some

1050
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 8: names there and I myself personally have to do a

1051
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 8: better job of, you know, evaluating that position that I

1052
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 8: can then give input to to the rest of the

1053
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 8: personnel staff and kind of the vision that we have,

1054
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 8: you know for that position. I think, you know, we've

1055
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 8: met with a bunch of edge players. There's there's a

1056
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 8: depth there. So you know, we'll continue to work our

1057
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 8: way across the board and then enjoy these meetings and

1058
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 8: you know, I'll have to go back and continue to

1059
00:51:46,760 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 8: watch did I talk to hi? Yep? Well, man, I

1060
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 8: think every year is different, and so we'll have to

1061
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 8: have a really good rookie class next year. And we

1062
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 8: hope that the players that we drafted, the ones that

1063
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 8: played a lot, the ones that played you know, fifty

1064
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 8: or sixty percent of the playtime, are the ones that

1065
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 8: maybe didn't play as much. That they all need to develop.

1066
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 8: They need to continue to grow and develop not only physically,

1067
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 8: but in our program mentally and emotionally, and you know,

1068
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 8: become more that foundation that we talked about. So, you know,

1069
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 8: playing and winning seventeen games as a rookie is only

1070
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 8: good if you can continue to to improve and use

1071
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 8: those experiences, you know, to your benefit that would then

1072
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 8: help the team process. What do you think, Well, I

1073
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 8: talk Arthur's a friend, so I talked to him, you know,

1074
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 8: often got a lot of respect for him as a coach,

1075
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 8: but not only that as a person who is a friend,

1076
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 8: you know. So for all the Ohio State fans, I

1077
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 8: guess we have somebody to complain to if they don't

1078
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 8: score fifty points a game, like every other Buckeye fan.

1079
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 8: And so I'm excited for him to be in Columbus.

1080
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 8: Obviously that place means a lot to me, you know,

1081
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 8: personally in my family, so you know, having having gone

1082
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 8: there and lived there and you know, support them. Yeah, well,

1083
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 8: we should never have a reason for volume and staff

1084
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 8: We we need to evaluate staffing at that level and

1085
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 8: to find out and make sure that that every game

1086
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 8: is treated the same, whether it's the primetime game on

1087
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 8: Sunday night, it's the primetime game on Monday or Thursday,

1088
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 8: or or those one o'clock games that you know is

1089
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 8: the lifeblood of our league. So I think that if

1090
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 8: if we need to figure out what staffing issues that

1091
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 8: need to be taken care of so that those things

1092
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 8: are looked at and we're not letting anything slip. We

1093
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 8: need to be really good in replay. There's gonna be

1094
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 8: mistakes on the field, just like there's mistakes and execution

1095
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 8: by the players, mistakes by the coaches. There's gonna be

1096
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 8: mistakes by the officials. There are, and they need to

1097
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 8: be decisive. They need to believe in what they're calling.

1098
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 8: But saying that there's gonna be mistakes, we have to

1099
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 8: get to a system and replay that is close to

1100
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 8: one hundred percent accurate as possible. I'm sorry. Well again,

1101
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 8: I've never played for him, I've never coached with him.

1102
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 8: I would say just his record speaks for itself. I

1103
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 8: have a lot of respect for what he's done. I

1104
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 8: don't have his secret sauce. I wish I did and

1105
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 8: to be able to do it at one place for

1106
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 8: eighteen years. But I know that his teams are They're physical,

1107
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 8: their sound, they play great defense. They force you into mistakes.

1108
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 8: But other than that, I'm only looking at it from

1109
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 8: being against them. I just know that you're gonna make

1110
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 8: some mistakes. Hopefully don't make too many of them. You

1111
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 8: don't want to make the same mistakes twice. It's important

1112
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 8: to be around the building. It's important to make sure

1113
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 8: everybody in the organization knows that their job is critical

1114
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:23,479
Speaker 8: to our success. Now, I'm sure I made a bunch

1115
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 8: of them. It's meant I think the relationship with with

1116
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 8: players and specifically asked about aj it has meant a lot.

1117
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 8: I've watched them grow, I've watched them mature. I'm proud

1118
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 8: of them, proud of the you know, the father that

1119
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 8: he is. I'm proud of the husband. And that has

1120
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 8: nothing to do with where he plays and where or

1121
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 8: where he played. So those are the things that are important.

1122
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 8: You know, we reach out and text each other during

1123
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 8: the things that happen good to each other, and sometimes

1124
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 8: things don't go so well for for the people that

1125
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 8: you're close with, and you text those as well. So, uh,

1126
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 8: it's been a two way street of support and reminders

1127
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 8: of of what got us to where we are here today.

1128
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 8: I'm interested in how much get as much as you

1129
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 8: guys can get. I guess it's about the same time.

1130
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 8: So it depends what kind of questions you ask. You

1131
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 8: get eighteen minutes. Some teams go over and then they

1132
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 8: come rushing in, and then then the next team's late.

1133
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 8: So that's the process. It's how long you can keep

1134
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 8: them past eighteen minutes for the person that's taking them

1135
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 8: to the other room standing outside the room, banging on it.

1136
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 8: But it's you know, some guys have a lot to

1137
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 8: talk about. Some guys have not as much. And I

1138
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 8: think everybody has a story, everybody has a journey. Some

1139
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 8: some players have a little bit more in their journey

1140
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 8: that you have to unpack and sometimes you have to do.

1141
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 8: You know, there's obviously follow up, and this is a

1142
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 8: good first setting with forty five players might go ahead,

1143
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 8: Bud Well, I don't want to tell you what it

1144
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 8: is because we're still working through it. You know, we don't,

1145
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 8: you know, I mean we we want to have a

1146
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 8: plan and we want to bring in really talented players

1147
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 8: that we have a vision for that we also believe

1148
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 8: in the type of character that they have as we

1149
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 8: build this team and improve on what we did this year,

1150
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 8: and we know how difficult that will be. So right

1151
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 8: now the plan is to evaluate everybody that we can

1152
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 8: have communication and conversations when those times come with the

1153
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 8: with the agents, we approach the tampering window. But right

1154
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 8: now it's about gaining information from our scouting department and

1155
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 8: having our coaches look at it and then figuring out,

1156
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 8: you know, a few players at each position that that

1157
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 8: may help us. I've never really tried to get focused,

1158
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 8: you know. I mean if I shop at NEMA, Marcus

1159
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 8: or Nordstrom or something. I've gotten to the point now

1160
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 8: in my life where if I want something, I can

1161
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 8: usually buy it. I don't, you know. I'm sure Richard

1162
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 8: Miller and Elliott and Macro will will work and do

1163
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 8: everything that they can to help us sign the players

1164
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 8: within certain exceptions. You know. I just I haven't even

1165
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 8: gotten that far just to feel like something usually just

1166
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 8: try to buy it.

1167
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: And now great moments in.

1168
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 5: History, they have stuff that isn't it's it's just kind

1169
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 5: of the n E logo.

1170
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: It's not actually right. So I mean there it's almost rivalry.

1171
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 3: I want the authentic stuff. What would you get a

1172
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 3: lot of people ask me for one of those. I'm sorry,

1173
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: that's all right. We just got an email about talking.

1174
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: Over reach, still talking stick, we're talking sick.

1175
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 3: Well do we have to do that? I mean I might,

1176
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 3: I might resort to that. No, you can't hear, you

1177
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 3: literally can't hear.

1178
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 13: You know what all the experts say, experts of Wait,

1179
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 13: I apologize sixteen times.

1180
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you know, I'm just talking what fans are saying.

1181
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: If you want to call them experts. Great, Now Paul

1182
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 3: is upset.

1183
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: Say what you were going to say?

1184
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 3: I forgot what I was going to say. Now I

1185
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 3: forgot more about radio number people lead.

1186
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

1187
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 3: All right back here in Patriots unfilteredday five to five

1188
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 3: past five hundred is the hot line? Excuse me, just

1189
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: wolf down in Italian, don't ask his name? And podcast

1190
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 3: at Patriots dot com is the email address. Don't forget.

1191
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 3: We've got Deuce calling in at about one ten? Is

1192
00:59:58,960 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 3: that still.

1193
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 5: Right now?

1194
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: Oh he's early? Okay, well then we can't have him. Wait,

1195
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 3: let's go right to Deuce. What's up, Deuce?

1196
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 5: Hey guys, can you see me?

1197
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: All right?

1198
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1199
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: Basically?

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01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1201
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 6: What video camera are we using over there?

1202
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 5: It looks fancy. I'm being flanked right now. I don't

1203
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 5: know if you can see. But Matt Smith no socks,

1204
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 5: and Tony Flannagan here enjoying some delicious shapiros sandwiches shapiros

1205
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 5: as they are wont to do. Okay, yep, that's a

1206
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 5: classic here.

1207
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 3: Okay, speaking of eating, have you been to Saint Almos yet?

1208
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: I have not, fred I you missed it.

1209
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was, it was Unfortunately I was stuck. I

1210
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 5: got stuck in Boston, so I didn't get out till

1211
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 5: Tuesday night. They had to go on without me on

1212
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 5: the almost reservation. But I am planning tonight to hit

1213
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 5: up Almos and get a make up steak before I

1214
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 5: head back tomorrow.

1215
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: Are you going solo? I?

1216
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 5: I don't know if I'll do whatever I gotta do,

1217
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 5: gonna I'm not gonna let that intimidate me. I'm gonna

1218
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 5: go stuff my fat face with a steak no matter

1219
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 5: who comes or does.

1220
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 3: Cozy up to the bar and get yourself a steak

1221
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 3: and you got to have the shrimp and yeah, enjoy.

1222
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 5: There you go.

1223
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 3: All right, so let's get right into it, Mike. Yesterday

1224
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 3: we heard Rabel talking, you know, we we talked about,

1225
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 3: you know, some of the things he had to say.

1226
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 3: You know, what what have you guys been doing since then?

1227
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 3: And and maybe include what you did yesterday.

1228
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 5: Sure, Yeah, it was great to get a chance to

1229
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 5: talk to to Vrabel again. You know, he was kind

1230
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 5: of busting our chops a little bit, as I said,

1231
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 5: you know, hey, we haven't had a chance to talk

1232
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 5: to you since last confine, and he was like, you

1233
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 5: can dok to me whenever you want. But but it

1234
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 5: was a lot of fun. I feel like he's getting

1235
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 5: a little more comfortable, certainly with Evan and I and

1236
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 5: really the rest of the team. You can just see.

1237
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 8: Uh.

1238
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 5: It was one of the things Vrabel said yesterday, one

1239
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 5: of the biggest differences just being more comfortable with the

1240
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 5: media crew and our internal crew, h et cetera. But

1241
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 5: but it's been great here on media row, as it

1242
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 5: always is, not quite the extensive amount of interviews that

1243
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 5: we did at the Super Bowl, but we've banked a bunch.

1244
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 5: It's been really fun talking to some of these guys.

1245
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 5: And you know, today we got to see the tight

1246
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 5: ends and the defensive backs, and I clocked, you know,

1247
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 5: Vrabel saying he thought there was some interesting depth in

1248
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 5: this class. So I think that's a good sign to

1249
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 5: look at some of these guys lower ranked. I mean,

1250
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 5: you know, I think the kid from Oregon, Sidiq, is

1251
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 5: the clear cut number one tight end and probably a

1252
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 5: first rounder. But after that sounded like Rabel thought there

1253
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 5: were some talent there too, So that's a position. We

1254
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 5: spent so much time talking about edge and tackle that

1255
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 5: it's good to hear a little bit something different, different

1256
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 5: perspective with the tight end. So kid Max Claire from

1257
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 5: Ohio State, somebody I thought was really athletic. Maybe could

1258
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 5: fit that mid round bill and otherwise we'll wrap up tomorrow.

1259
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 5: Check out the quarterbacks, wide receivers. I know that's an

1260
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 5: important one for everybody. So looking forward to seeing guys

1261
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 5: like Casey Concepcion, which going right around with the Patriots

1262
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 5: or picking in the first round. So it's been another

1263
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 5: great combine, even though I got here a little late.

1264
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 3: So about any of the people that you've seen in person,

1265
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 3: anybody jump out in terms of their comportment or you know,

1266
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 3: how they carry themselves.

1267
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 5: Well, Caleb Downs has the swag, and I mean a

1268
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 5: lot of people here saying he could be the most

1269
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 5: talented player in the draft. It's interesting to see where

1270
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 5: he goes. Heard from him. He talked about Matt Patricia.

1271
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 5: Gave Matt Patricia a lot of credit for taking his

1272
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 5: game to a new level there as Ohio State's defensive coordinator.

1273
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny some of these guys. I was

1274
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 5: saying here, I think I've been doing it long enough

1275
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 5: that some guys just give professional athlete vibes like you

1276
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 5: just like this guy, he's gonna step into a locker room,

1277
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 5: he's gonna know to take it seriously and be a professional.

1278
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 5: And there's been a handful of those guys. Sure some

1279
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 5: of them will pop into my mind. Is as I

1280
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 5: continue to talk, I get a key Mesidor that's one

1281
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 5: that everybody's been talking about from Miami. Super disruptive defensive end.

1282
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 5: Probably gonna go some we're in that late first round.

1283
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 5: He was one too, that just gave those vibes. Talked

1284
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 5: a lot about Jason Taylor being a huge part in

1285
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 5: his development, along with Ruben Bain, who I don't know

1286
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 5: if you guys saw, but he had sub thirty one

1287
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 5: inch arms. So we're back talking about armlink the game.

1288
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 5: But maybe it pushes a guy like Ruben bank Bain

1289
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 5: down a little bit. Other guys in this class of

1290
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 5: edge players get pushed down, and maybe the Patriots are

1291
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 5: able to get, you know, a high value player there

1292
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 5: at thirty first.

1293
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 3: Overall, one of the things that Vrabel talked about yesterday,

1294
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 3: you know, in terms of off season needs, and he

1295
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 3: was very pointed about it was that the team needs

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Speaker 3: to get stronger, like, yeah, did you hear that? And

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Speaker 3: what did you think when you heard it?

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Speaker 8: I did.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if he said it a

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01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 5: second time, but I was the one that asked him

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01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 5: a question that got it out of him on our

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01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 5: interview because he had said which I thought was really

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01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 5: interesting at the podium, talking about challenging his coaches to

1304
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 5: continue to evolve and to come up with, you know,

1305
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 5: new ways to build on their schemes. And so the

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01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 5: I asked him in our interview, you know, was there

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01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 5: anything else that you know, you were looking for from

1308
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 5: this offseason? And he went right to that. I mean

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01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 5: I heard Alex mentioned, you know, talking. I mean, it's

1310
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 5: kind of you look at that Super Bowl and Will

1311
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 5: Campbell and Jared Wilson, those are probably exhibits A and B.

1312
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,919
Speaker 5: And to tie it into when we had Mike gries

1313
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Speaker 5: On yesterday, I said, Fred, when we talked to him

1314
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 5: at the Super Bowl, when he came up with that

1315
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 5: that thing which he admitted he got from Nick Cassario

1316
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 5: of looking at those veteran defensive linemen that the Seahawks

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01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 5: had in such a rotation that they could just keep

1318
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 5: rolling those guys. I mean, I think that's where that

1319
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 5: Super Bowl matchup was won and loss. So when you

1320
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 5: look at I mean, everybody's like, well, Campbell, Campbelllock. We

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01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 5: got at that, like there is element of players getting stronger,

1322
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 5: getting better, playing faster, and I think that's what Mike

1323
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 5: Vrabel realizes. We believe in this kid, but he's going

1324
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 5: to have to meet us halfway by getting stronger and

1325
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 5: you know, improving his pass sets. Things that you've heard

1326
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Speaker 5: all over the last couple of weeks in the fallout

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Speaker 5: of the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: What's the scuttle butt on you know, his comments about

1329
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 3: digs and Gonzo's contracts.

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01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think there you know, we had

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01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 5: Elliott on and they saw him playing it a little

1332
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 5: down the middle about you know, those things will come

1333
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 5: in due time. Reese's speculation yesterday was that that was

1334
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 5: kind of semantics and that you don't want to get

1335
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 5: into talking about that stuff before the new league year.

1336
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 5: But I think all everybody knows Christian Gonzalez is an

1337
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 5: outstanding player and that the Patriots should want to keep him.

1338
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 5: But it takes two to Tango. We'll see how those

1339
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 5: negotiations go, but I'm sure that. I mean to me,

1340
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 5: that's kind of the main point of the offseason, securing

1341
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 5: Gonzo and figuring out the edge position, maybe at a

1342
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 5: left guard. You don't have to go crazy in free

1343
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 5: agency to shore up some of these holes. And then,

1344
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 5: as Rabel said, you got to continue to draft. Well,

1345
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 5: that's that's so critical for this team as they round

1346
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 5: out the program, continue to put additions on the foundation

1347
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 5: that they built this year. So you know, every time

1348
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 5: I come here, you just get so excited. You see

1349
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 5: the young players that are enthusia he asked about getting

1350
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 5: into the league, and you know, you start to imagine

1351
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 5: how great some of them could be in a Patriots uniform.

1352
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,479
Speaker 6: Have you developed a draft crush yet or a little

1353
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 6: too early, But now that you're seeing these guys in person, I.

1354
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 5: Know you like, that's a good No, I do, I

1355
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 5: do for sure. You know, the kid Keldric Fawk, He's

1356
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 5: probably gonna be long gone before the Patriots pick, but

1357
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 5: he's just one of those do it all edge players.

1358
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 5: I think he's probably in the team somewhere based on

1359
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 5: what I've seen, But I really liked him the other one.

1360
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 5: And this is a guy we've been talking about all week.

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01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 5: We heard from one of our guests this week earlier,

1362
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 5: Mark Ross, who'll be out in today's podcast. You know,

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01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 5: I asked him, is there a certain guy that pops

1364
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,959
Speaker 5: out to you that that screams Mike Frable? And he said,

1365
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 5: our Mason. How shoot, I'm blanking on his last name

1366
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 5: here on our Mason something from Oklahoma. It'll come to

1367
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 5: me in a second. But he at the podium, small guy,

1368
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 5: small edge rusher, but all effort. And that's another thing

1369
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 5: that everybody talks about here is just the Rabel kind

1370
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,959
Speaker 5: of players. There's a lot of those guys. They jump

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01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 5: off the tape. You see him play with their hair

1372
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 5: on fire. Uh, And I gotta look, this is gonna

1373
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 5: kill me. How the hell did I freaking blank on

1374
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 5: ar Mason's last name? I've been talking about him.

1375
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 6: So unique that how could you even it?

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01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 8: Is? Okay?

1377
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 5: Thomas R Mason Thomas Sorry, And you know, to go

1378
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 5: full circle on this, like his name is literally R Mason.

1379
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 5: His mom named him that because all his brothers had

1380
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 5: our names, but she didn't want him to have an

1381
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 5: R name. But she still want him to have an

1382
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 5: r SO. He is ar Mason doesn't stand for anything.

1383
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 5: It's just an r SO. Our Mason Thomas, he's a

1384
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 5: he's a Rabel kind of guy.

1385
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: Dude, you've been doing this for a couple of years.

1386
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 1: Is it refreshing that this year you're going in not

1387
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: really knowing what the team's gonna do? You know, the

1388
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 1: two years ago you had Drake May. Last year you

1389
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: kind of knew you were taking Campbell or one of

1390
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 1: those guys. Now you're going in with no idea.

1391
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 5: It's great, pointise, I mean, that's that's what's fun about it.

1392
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 5: It's you know, you knew the last couple of years

1393
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 5: when you do your little fun mock drafts, you look

1394
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 5: at other people's mock drafts and who they got has taken.

1395
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 5: I mean, last couple of years it was maybe one

1396
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 5: of two guys, two to three. Maybe maybe someone got

1397
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 5: crazy and said they should take astroon genty. I don't know,

1398
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 5: but you know, it kind of gets boring.

1399
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's the same.

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01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 5: And they took Will Campbell and they took Drake May.

1401
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 5: So this has been a big question. I've been asking

1402
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 5: a lot of the guests that we've had what are

1403
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 5: the positions that you could see maybe falling through the cracks.

1404
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 5: Maybe there's a run on edge and there isn't a

1405
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 5: player that gets pushed down to them in that position group.

1406
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 5: But all of a sudden you have someone like Kenyan Sadik,

1407
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,799
Speaker 5: the really mobile and the super athletic tight end from Oregon.

1408
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 5: He's available at thirty one. So I think that's what's

1409
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 5: most interesting to me is how does it play out

1410
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 5: who gets pushed down? You know, every single mock draft

1411
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 5: you look at, you're going to see a different player.

1412
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 5: I interviewed Cynthia Freeland today from NFL Network. She had

1413
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 5: a really interesting pick too. She went onto the giant

1414
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 5: penetrating defensive lineman, which I like. So I think it

1415
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 5: makes it more interesting for us. There are a lot

1416
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 5: of different and guys that you can think about and consider.

1417
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 3: So do everybody, you know, fans see the workouts on TV,

1418
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 3: you know, in the stadium and they see the guys

1419
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 3: you know, bench pressing and all that. But take us

1420
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 3: behind the scenes, like in the corridors, Like is there

1421
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 3: a lot of like you know, patriots, like you guys

1422
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 3: talking to people on other teams and you know a

1423
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 3: lot of that stuff going on behind you know, behind

1424
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 3: the scenes.

1425
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a little bit, you know, and it's jeez.

1426
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 5: I mean you go out there and you see guys

1427
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 5: like working up in the hallways on their forty get

1428
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 5: off and you can see them like, you know, going

1429
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 5: through the motions and really, you know, drilling down on

1430
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 5: how important these drills are. You know, right here in

1431
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 5: the convention center, you see these guys, you know, getting

1432
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 5: ready and knowing how much is on the line for

1433
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 5: you know, the difference between a guy running a four

1434
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 5: four three or a four to three eight. I mean

1435
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 5: it's you know, five thousandths of a second, but it

1436
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 5: could mean millions of dollars to these guys. So in

1437
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 5: it it's just the general atmosphere of Indie. Everything's going on. Yesterday,

1438
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 5: Peter Schrager put out on Twitter. He hyped up this

1439
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 5: breakfast place, and I had had an average breakfast yesterday.

1440
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 5: I'm like, I want to get a good breakfast today.

1441
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,520
Speaker 5: So I went to this this little cafe that he recommended,

1442
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 5: which was right there. It's been sitting right in front

1443
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 5: of my stupid face for all five years that I've

1444
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 5: been here before, and it was one of the best

1445
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 5: breakfasts I had. But you're looking at coaches and scouts,

1446
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 5: you're looking at agents. I mean the place is just

1447
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 5: packed with you know, people doing deals, all that kind

1448
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 5: of stuff. You understand. Now, that's why a lot of

1449
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 5: this groundwork for free agency and for the off season,

1450
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 5: it seems like it all gets laid out here. You know,

1451
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,440
Speaker 5: a lot of it in the lobby of the JW

1452
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 5: and places like that little cafe that I went to

1453
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 5: this morning, or you know, even out in the hallways

1454
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 5: here at the convention Center.

1455
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 3: Any coffee shop incidents with media members each other, anything

1456
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 3: like that going on. That was that was like the

1457
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 3: big story last year, right the Starbucks.

1458
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,839
Speaker 5: No, I know, I know, no no fights at Starbucks,

1459
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 5: and and we have been around there of course. Evan,

1460
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 5: you know, does frequent that at that establishment a little bit, had.

1461
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 6: A lot of grapes with national people this year. I'm

1462
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 6: surprised he wasn't scrapping him a Starbucks.

1463
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 5: He's going around picking fights. I know, we're gonna go

1464
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 5: try to find dann Rolovsky and you know, see if

1465
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 5: we can have him Evan makeup. But I don't know.

1466
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 5: You guys will have to ask Evan when we get back.

1467
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 5: I feel like his love of the prospects.

1468
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 8: And like that.

1469
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 5: I think it's waned a little bit. I don't know

1470
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 5: if he's if he's got the same passion for the prospects,

1471
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 5: You'll have to ask him that. I don't know. I

1472
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 5: was like even losing his ed chair a little bit.

1473
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1474
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,560
Speaker 3: All right, Well, listen, we'll let you get back to

1475
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 3: your Shapiro sandwich.

1476
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 5: I didn't get one, Fred. I'm saving up for my

1477
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 5: steak tonight.

1478
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go, saving All right, Well, thanks Mike,

1479
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 3: say hello to everyone for us, and we'll see when

1480
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 3: you get back. Safe travels.

1481
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 5: Thanks guys, We'll see you tuesday.

1482
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 3: All right, They're great, Mike, do so why from Indy.

1483
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: I love that Rabel was kind of ripping on him

1484
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 2: and Evan.

1485
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 6: When they did their one on one talk three times

1486
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 6: a week. Yeah, and then at the end of it

1487
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 6: he was like, you guys should ask more questions. I

1488
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 6: would love to see if the camera was still rolling,

1489
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 6: because you know, Vrabel continued to dig at them, like,

1490
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 6: you know, after the after they were off air.

1491
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 3: But that is, you know, that's the place to be

1492
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 3: if you're a coach or scout in the NFL. That's

1493
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 3: you know, where deals are made, you know in the

1494
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 3: back halls, and jobs are you know, set up for

1495
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 3: down the road.

1496
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 6: And that's why when people say, like, what's even the

1497
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 6: point of the combine anymore? Guys aren't throwing some guys

1498
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 6: aren't participating. But that's that's the reason.

1499
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: It's a convention and the most network most companies have

1500
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: like sales kickoffs. This is like the NFL sales cipoff,

1501
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: leave the hotel and coach harbors walking right.

1502
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the.

1503
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 6: Swag bags of promotional marketing material.

1504
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the closest thing to a convention that the

1505
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 3: NFL has. All right, eight five five pats one hundred.

1506
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 3: We got some callers who have been patiently waiting. We'll

1507
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 3: start with Eldred, North Carolina. What's up? Eldred?

1508
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 8: Hey?

1509
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 12: Alex, Hey Fred, Hey, Batist say y'all doing all right?

1510
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 8: Hey?

1511
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 12: I got a question?

1512
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 8: Fake.

1513
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 12: Everybody keeps saying, you know the left guard, you know,

1514
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 12: Wilson and move him to center. Okay, if he got

1515
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 12: problem with strimp and left guard, wouldn't you think he

1516
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 12: had a problem with strimp at the center?

1517
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 8: Yep?

1518
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 12: Because sometime you know, you got the big dts on you.

1519
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 8: Yep, it's over again.

1520
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 3: Yep.

1521
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 12: So I don't see the I don't see the you

1522
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 12: know the movie you know that makes it.

1523
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 3: It's a good point. It's a good point. If his

1524
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 3: problem is strength, it will show up at center too,

1525
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 3: So it's a good point.

1526
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 6: Okay, Eldrid, did you see uh sorry, did you see

1527
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 6: evans apology to you on Catch twenty two yesterday?

1528
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I was talking about you. I can call

1529
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 12: you here because of the connection, and uh, I was

1530
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 12: hearing it, but I went back and played it, and

1531
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 12: I'm like, I kept telling you that. Yeah, but I

1532
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 12: step I sept his apology. I said his apology like, uh,

1533
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 12: like I told him. You know, I've been I'm hoping

1534
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 12: that who we get at thirty one because he's not

1535
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 12: picked in the first round, but he goes in the

1536
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 12: early second round unless he shows out on the forty,

1537
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 12: which is gonna you know, move from boot stock up anyway.

1538
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 12: But that's our ex that's another a j that's another

1539
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 12: Mike Evans. And then then tomorrow he's to like Thomas Jacksonville.

1540
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 12: Now he's better than that. And I've been I've been watching,

1541
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 12: like said, I watched acc in sec college all the time,

1542
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 12: and that kid stood out for the last two years

1543
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 12: for me, besides don K Thornton. But when Mendoza get

1544
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 12: there and throw to him, they was gonna say, Eli,

1545
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 12: you're right.

1546
01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 3: Again, Okay, all right, thanks, all right.

1547
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: We could say with Wilson it's a comfort thing and

1548
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: not strength thing, because I think it wasn't center his

1549
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: main position.

1550
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was in college. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, So

1551
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 3: that's why I said if strength is his problem, maybe

1552
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 3: for him it isn't.

1553
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1554
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1555
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 6: I think people have a lot of people have said

1556
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 6: maybe Garrett Bradbury is getting older moved Jared Wilson to center.

1557
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's that easy, because what you

1558
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 6: would lose intellectually with Garrett Bradbury and I don't think

1559
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 6: he's done anything to lose his job. I think it

1560
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 6: has to be a competition. But if Jared Wilson goes

1561
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 6: from being a starter his rookie year to then year

1562
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 6: two being a depth piece behind Garrett until he's truly ready,

1563
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 6: I'm cool with that. I don't know if that's how

1564
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 6: it play out. Yeah, but what's best. I don't know

1565
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 6: what's best for the team, what's best for the players.

1566
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we got to figure this out. We

1567
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 3: got to figure this out. It was okay for most

1568
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 3: of the season, okay, but it's got to be better.

1569
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 3: We got to elevate this offense. Todd's in North Carolina.

1570
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 3: What's up, Todd?

1571
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 10: Hey, this is the heartless Canadian sociopath calling in to

1572
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 10: congratulate the team America, both the ladies and the men's

1573
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 10: on their hockey victory.

1574
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you didn't cry in Canada, it's a little

1575
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 6: different than what I was saying. Todd, Come on, it's

1576
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 6: okay talking about Americans.

1577
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 10: I'm going to get it's true.

1578
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 3: It is true.

1579
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 10: So now I want to get back to what happened

1580
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 10: last year when we got favorl in. We set some

1581
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 10: expectations and I kind of really have embraced the brave away.

1582
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 10: Last year, I was hoping that we'd get d eight

1583
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 10: wins and oh my god, did we last past At

1584
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 10: this year, with the schedule, I got a different idea.

1585
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 10: I'm not targeting winds. I want to see play. I

1586
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 10: want to see effort for a full sixty minutes. I

1587
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 10: want to see all four quarters, and I want to

1588
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 10: see us to be feisty. I want, you know, the

1589
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 10: people who play us that aren't in our division go,

1590
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 10: Thank god we don't have to see them again. I

1591
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,560
Speaker 10: want to see a feistiness there. So you know, I

1592
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 10: know we started setting expectations last year when Rabel got in.

1593
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 10: I don't think it's too early to just have some

1594
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 10: base ones.

1595
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 11: What are yours?

1596
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: Thanks, guys?

1597
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 3: All right, My my baseline expectation or hope is to

1598
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 3: win the East again. Yeah, I mean, that's what I

1599
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 3: want to do. I don't I know it's a tougher schedule,

1600
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 3: but it's going to be a tougher schedule for the

1601
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 3: Bills too, and for the Jets and the Dolphins. We're

1602
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 3: all playing the same conference divisions, and I think we

1603
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 3: should come out on top of the East.

1604
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if you won the East last year,

1605
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: the bar has to be that again, minimal, right.

1606
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 3: And then you know, I'm not saying we're going to

1607
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 3: get to the super Bowl again. The chances of that

1608
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 3: are pretty slim. But you know, I think there's a

1609
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 3: good chance that we win the East again.

1610
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: You want to host a playoff game?

1611
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1612
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 1: Yeahs fair.

1613
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 2: At least let's do it at least one.

1614
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 3: Bethany is in Ontario. I wanted to write in with

1615
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 3: praise for Alex. She's been a great addition to the team,

1616
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 3: with far better insights than those allowed to wear a jersey.

1617
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 3: What does that mean? Who talk about Deuce?

1618
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 6: Maybe Deuce when he wears jerseys or maybe just I

1619
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 6: don't know, because me and MLB have feelings about grown

1620
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 6: men that were jerseys of other men.

1621
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed hearing her on Tuesday show. Sometimes she

1622
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 3: gets quiet when the whole crew is there, so it

1623
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 3: was great to hear her and what she had to say.

1624
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 3: So kudos to Alex and don't be afraid to speak

1625
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 3: over the guys. Chris was also a great addition, but

1626
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 3: hasn't been there enough to get flowers. So what did

1627
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 3: you say on Tuesday that was so? Maybe?

1628
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't think I said anything that profound.

1629
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 6: I think it was just I don't know. Sometimes when

1630
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 6: Evan's here and you guys are here, I have so

1631
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 6: much respect for you guys and your insight and how

1632
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 6: long you've been here, and I don't always feel like

1633
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 6: I I don't know. I don't want to interrupt the

1634
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 6: flow conversation sometimes, but when it's just the three of us.

1635
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 3: It's tough to room, you know.

1636
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 2: But Chris Cassidy did a great job. I thought he

1637
01:19:58,040 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 2: crushed it this week.

1638
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, So what did you guys talk about?

1639
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 2: A lot of Elliott stuff?

1640
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 6: It was mostly coming out of Elliott's press conference, team building,

1641
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:09,560
Speaker 6: a little bit of the dig stuff, But honestly, the

1642
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 6: biggest topic I feel like was Will Campbell and just

1643
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 6: them buying into him at left tackle.

1644
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 2: And we got a little off the rails, so we

1645
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: talked a little. We talked a little hockey and Olympics,

1646
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: and it was like it was a good mix.

1647
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 3: I know you were very you were very touched with

1648
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 3: that win.

1649
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,799
Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was touched with the bringing

1650
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: the good Drow kids on. I thought that was so nice.

1651
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was nice.

1652
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 6: The psycho the sociopath comment was mostly a dig up, Paul, See.

1653
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 3: I know it was a great win. It was great

1654
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 3: to win the goal. But I don't put it up

1655
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 3: there like some of you kids are doing, because like

1656
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 3: it's different now it's pros playing pros. It's not such

1657
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 3: a big achievement to beat Canada. I mean, we have

1658
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 3: good pros too in the NHL. In the eighty when

1659
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 3: we beat Russia. It was literally kids playing grown men,

1660
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 3: professionals against Russia. That was like amazing.

1661
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't alive for that though them. You know, I

1662
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 2: was miracle and I loved it.

1663
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 3: You know, I was a freshman in college when it happens,

1664
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 3: and that was you know, like that was unbelievable. This

1665
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 3: was very believable. The USA was the number two seed.

1666
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't like, you know, so like it's just good

1667
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 3: to be Canada. You hadn't done it in a long time.

1668
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know they had won the gold. Yeah, forty

1669
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 3: six years.

1670
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

1671
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 3: But I don't care. Like the Olympics, I love it.

1672
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 2: I love watching the parents. It makes me cry.

1673
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 6: No, that's I think it's just what is cooler than

1674
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 6: winning a medal for your country?

1675
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that's just like the pinnacle

1676
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 2: of sport to me?

1677
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 6: Is it? I don't know, you know, as a female

1678
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 6: that would be for me because the level of professionals

1679
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 6: before I could play that.

1680
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 3: If you're like in skiing or something like that, absolutely,

1681
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 3: But if you're an NBA player, like, isn't the Stanley

1682
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 3: Cup the pinnacle?

1683
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1684
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think spit and Chickless brought that.

1685
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: I was like, would these guys trade their gold for

1686
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: a Stanley Cup?

1687
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 3: Right?

1688
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 2: Probably?

1689
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 3: Not?

1690
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 6: Again, I think I look at it differently because as

1691
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 6: a woman, that's the furthest you can.

1692
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 3: Get, you know, And it's just no like certain sports.

1693
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 3: I hear you that.

1694
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 6: That and the emotional tie in with the goodrow yeah, ingle,

1695
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 6: and then I just had a lot of pride.

1696
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 2: For how many Massachusetts ties were on that team.

1697
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 6: You know.

1698
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 3: Yep, it's good, Yep, that was good.

1699
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 2: My friend Connor the presidential.

1700
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 3: Let's not go there all right, crazy time, David writes

1701
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 3: in I have to comment on something Paul has been

1702
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 3: saying the last couple of shows. When a caller calls

1703
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 3: in and says they like a player, but not for

1704
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 3: a crazy amount of money, Paul snarkily responds, saying, you

1705
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 3: don't like the player, citing the player's performance being why

1706
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 3: you wouldn't want to pay him, not the contract. While

1707
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 3: I'm not on while I'm on his side in general,

1708
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 3: I have to provide an admittedly extreme example, Paul, how

1709
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 3: do you feel about Dak Prescott? I personally think he's

1710
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 3: pretty decent. Would you pay him sixty million dollars? A year.

1711
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 3: I personally wouldn't. I think he's a good quarterback, but

1712
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 3: not a sixty million dollar player. Some players aren't worth

1713
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 3: a crazy high price tag. I understand the cap is

1714
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 3: crap mentality, but at some point you have to be

1715
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 3: mindful of your cap situation. So here we get into

1716
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 3: the semantics argument.

1717
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: Is he saying Paul wouldn't pay him or the writer?

1718
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 3: No, he David says he wouldn't pay Dak Prescott.

1719
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: I think Paul would, Yeah, because I agree with Paul

1720
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: on this is that the market's the market, right, Like

1721
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: if I think Jason Jackson a couple of years ago,

1722
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 1: they didn't pay him, but like that's what the market

1723
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 1: was for a cornerback.

1724
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 3: I think that's Paul's point is if you don't want

1725
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 3: to pay Dak Prescott what the market is bearing, yeah,

1726
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 3: then you don't really like this Dak Prescott. You don't

1727
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 3: think he's good enough.

1728
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's fair, you know.

1729
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 3: So that's it's a semanna thing. But I understand what

1730
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 3: Paul is saying that if you really like the guy

1731
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 3: and you want him, you got to pay what the

1732
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 3: market is bearing. Yeah, that's it, that's it.

1733
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 2: Comments what the price Tag says that, and even Marcus right.

1734
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 3: So, and take Gonzales for example, if you love him,

1735
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to pay him. What is it, forty

1736
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 3: million dollars now for an elite cornerback. So if you

1737
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 3: don't want to pay Gonzales forty million dollars, you don't

1738
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 3: like you don't think he's that good.

1739
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: And if you want, if you want to pay him,

1740
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: you better do it now because it's gonna be more

1741
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 1: extensive next year. What I was the name the Panthers

1742
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: cornerback J C. Horn. I don't think he's that much,

1743
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 1: but that's what the market is.

1744
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 2: Make sure you again have Drake.

1745
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, so I.

1746
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 3: Get what Paul saying. I get what Paul saying.

1747
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 6: Interesting to see how quickly they try to get Gonzo

1748
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 6: signed after the new lead year.

1749
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: Another thing is what other corners are up, because I

1750
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: think gonzill one of the best corners of the league.

1751
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 2: If not, he'll probably the market.

1752
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 1: But that being said, if a player who's worse sets

1753
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: the market, then you're gonna have to pay him more.

1754
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 3: So pay Gonzo early, right, yeah right, No matter what

1755
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 3: you're paying him now, in two or three years, it'll

1756
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 3: be chump change. Yeah, you know, it's crazy. It's just

1757
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 3: the way it works, Just the way it works.

1758
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 2: If you thought our inflation was that just trying to

1759
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 2: live and be happy, the.

1760
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 1: Old regime might have just tagged Gonzo and then we're

1761
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 1: just going into the cycle of that.

1762
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 3: There were a couple of moments in Tom Brady's career

1763
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 3: where he was the highest paid quarterback in the NFL,

1764
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 3: but it went.

1765
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 8: By like that.

1766
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think an interesting thing with Gonzo's

1767
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 1: contract is the health because I don't think he's played

1768
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 1: a full season yet, so that's the only thing I

1769
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 1: think the team could maybe try to get some money

1770
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: back on it.

1771
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 6: But that was how long the season went.

1772
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, agree, Joe writes in in Michigan. One other

1773
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 3: factor that has to be considered in the free agent

1774
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 3: free for all is the what ifs. What if Buffalo

1775
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 3: gets a j Brown across they are your closest competitor.

1776
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 3: They are getting close to desperation mode with Josh Allen

1777
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 3: in a Super Bowl. Don't teams sometimes make moves to

1778
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 3: prevent other teams from getting a guy. I'm sure Belichick

1779
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 3: did that more than once. Well, not at that level.

1780
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:17,560
Speaker 3: You don't You don't go give up big assets and

1781
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 3: pay big money for Max Crosby just to prevent the

1782
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 3: Patriots from getting them. You have to really want them,

1783
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 3: you know. So if that's how you're running your organization,

1784
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're in our division because we're going to

1785
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 3: beat your ass every year, you know. I think that's

1786
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 3: what happened when Brady was here, And Paul kind of

1787
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 3: laughs every time I say it, But Tom Brady forced

1788
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 3: the other teams in the AFC East to make bad

1789
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 3: decisions that.

1790
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 2: They're always in a hole.

1791
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:45,600
Speaker 3: And you know.

1792
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 1: Scenario if you're the Jetsy over because we're going to

1793
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 1: get him. So ye so yeah, But that that that

1794
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 1: being said, if AJ Brown or Justin Jefferson is available,

1795
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: I would hope we would make the trade. If Buffalo

1796
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 1: is willing to make it, I hope we'd be willing

1797
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: to make that.

1798
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1799
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Like if it's if it's two picks for

1800
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,480
Speaker 1: for Justin Jefferson.

1801
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 3: Right, if you were their agent at that player, you

1802
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,839
Speaker 3: want you set up that bidding ward between the Patriots,

1803
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 3: and so you let the Patriots know that the Bills

1804
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 3: are interested, and you let the Bills know the Patriots

1805
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 3: are interested so you can what.

1806
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 6: Do you think is more desirable if you're a free agent? Well,

1807
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 6: what position if you're a free agent, just anyition, what

1808
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 6: team would you rather?

1809
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 3: Patriots have a young quarterback, They just came off a

1810
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 3: super Bowl, great coach, getting a new facility, you got

1811
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 3: a player, coach guy, that seems But.

1812
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 6: I think we have a little bit better than There's.

1813
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 3: A little bit of uncertainty in Buffalo in terms of

1814
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 3: the coach coach. You know, nobody knows if Joe Brady's

1815
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,919
Speaker 3: going to be a good head coach. The new stadium

1816
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 3: is fine, but the facility, I think is the same.

1817
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 1: If you're in Buffalo, you're getting snow during the season.

1818
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 1: We get after, we have the ocean.

1819
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 3: Honestly, Like there's a few good restaurants in Buffalo, but really,

1820
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 3: you don't want to live in Buffalo. Yeah you live

1821
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:13,560
Speaker 3: there because.

1822
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 1: You have to Joshua Allen Yeah yeah, well she doesn't

1823
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: even live there, right Like.

1824
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 3: So I think right now, I think I think I

1825
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 3: think the Patriots have an advantage over destination when it

1826
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 3: comes to you know, taxes are high in New York too,

1827
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 3: so that's the same. You know, now Miami has a

1828
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 3: leg up when it comes to destination, but are not.

1829
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Going to win.

1830
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 2: They don't, and who's going to be their quarterback?

1831
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 4: Right?

1832
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 6: They're starting They're literally starting over. It's crazy to see.

1833
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 6: Like my first game I covered here was Tuha Tyreek

1834
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 6: Water before the concussion and that September game down in

1835
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 6: Miami Week one, and just it's just that's the NFL

1836
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 6: for you, how quick things can change.

1837
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 3: Darius and Louisville Wright saying, hey, Alex, when you have

1838
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 3: aj Brown, you give him seven to eight targets, no problem.

1839
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 3: If you don't, then you have a problem with your offense. Okay,

1840
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 3: and you know seven eight targets will probably satisfy him. Yeah,

1841
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,799
Speaker 3: And I think there's enough to go around for Diggs

1842
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 3: in that scenario.

1843
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 1: So I you know, I think Diggs's mentality changed, which

1844
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 1: is how we saw him grow as a player. But like,

1845
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: when's the last time we had a receiver in New

1846
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: England being upset that it didn't enough targets. I kind

1847
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: of like that with my number one.

1848
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 3: And don't forget last year a lot of the games

1849
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 3: that Drake had really good games, you only threw the

1850
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 3: ball like twenty something times. Yeah, you know, like we

1851
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 3: weren't a pass happy team. Next year, I expect that

1852
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 3: to go up. I expect him to be throwing over

1853
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 3: thirty times a game, you know, I hope.

1854
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 1: Anyway, I expect this. I think the Saints game was

1855
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 1: kind of well, the Bills too, but the Saints game

1856
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, this kid has a cannon to all

1857
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 1: those deep balls, Like I want to see that every week.

1858
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,480
Speaker 3: Let's see what is who is this? CJ and Minnesota?

1859
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 3: He says. If I'm Mike Vrabel, my pitch to Digs

1860
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 3: is simple, take a pay cut and you have a

1861
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 3: path to the NFL Hall of Fame. He is realistically three,

1862
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 3: maybe four productive seasons away from being firmly in the

1863
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Conversation, volume matters, longevity matters, and consistent

1864
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,560
Speaker 3: production into your mid thirties is what separates haul of

1865
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 3: very good from Canton receivers. Side note, he also has

1866
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 3: one of the most iconic TD catches of all time,

1867
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Miracle. Remember that one. Let's look at the math.

1868
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 3: If dig simply repeats his twenty twenty five season over

1869
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 3: the next three years, that eighty five catches oney thirteen

1870
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 3: yards for touchdowns. His career totals would project to eleven

1871
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety seven receptions, fourteen thousand, five hundred and

1872
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 3: forty three yards, eighty seven touchdowns. And then he compares

1873
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 3: it to guys who are in the Hall of Fame,

1874
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 3: and they that compares very favorably. I'm not going to

1875
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 3: go down the list on volume alone, Diggs would be

1876
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 3: right there statistically in some categories ahead. So he's saying

1877
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 3: that that's your pitch. Yeah, So he said, instead of

1878
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:18,640
Speaker 3: asking him to carry the offense, you put him in

1879
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:20,640
Speaker 3: a position to age into greatness.

1880
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: I think realistically are looking at one more like very

1881
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: above average year of Stefan Diggs, just with age and

1882
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 1: career and hits and injuries. But like he needs to

1883
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 1: decide if he wants to, you know, keep growing his

1884
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 1: bank account or if he wants to win, and that's

1885
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: a decision for the player.

1886
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 6: But from everything he said, and just like reading the tea,

1887
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 6: like if you're going to take what he's said at

1888
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 6: face value, I think he values the situation here, and

1889
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 6: I think he's at a point in his career where

1890
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 6: he's thinking long term. He's not necessarily thinking like ego,

1891
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 6: Like he's looking at the bigger picture.

1892
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep.

1893
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 3: Tyler from Ludlow says, I have a game for the

1894
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 3: gen Z team. I guess one of us not include it.

1895
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:03,679
Speaker 2: A clue what you millennials?

1896
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 8: All right?

1897
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 3: Anyway, A clue is given that ties two names together,

1898
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 3: such as a sixteenth century English explorer that finished second

1899
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 3: in m VP voting this year. So the answer would

1900
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,600
Speaker 3: be Sir Francis Drake may So you kind of have

1901
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,799
Speaker 3: need to know some some book stuff here, I think. Anyway,

1902
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 3: So here's the next one. I don't know if anyone

1903
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 3: will get it. The best friend of Corey Matthews in

1904
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 3: Boy Meets World that also catches passes. So I don't

1905
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 3: know who Matthews is. I love Boy Meets the Punter Henry. Well,

1906
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 3: that's that's true.

1907
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 2: Wasn't the brother's name hunter? Or the best friend's name

1908
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 2: was Hunter?

1909
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 3: So yeah, you have to know the best friend's name.

1910
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 3: Who's the best Corey's best friend was the name Hunter?

1911
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 3: Wasn't he? Okay?

1912
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 6: I couldn't remember if it was the brother?

1913
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 3: The best was the first?

1914
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 6: There?

1915
01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 1: Hunter was his first name?

1916
01:32:59,360 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 8: Oh?

1917
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 3: Really? Okay?

1918
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 14: No?

1919
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 3: So the answer the answer he has is Sean Hunter,

1920
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 3: Henry Shawn Hunter saw Hunter? Okay? So sounded so sure

1921
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 3: of yourself over there.

1922
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 6: That's why I didn't think the best friend's name of Okay.

1923
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 3: Okay, next one, so you understand the concept, all right.

1924
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 3: A McDonald's burger that calls for the Warriors to come

1925
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 3: out and play Mac Big Mac mccollins, Big Mac Collins.

1926
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 8: There you go.

1927
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 3: Good God, Alex's the greatest Patriots lineman of all time.

1928
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 3: That also moonlights is Miley Cyrus's alter ego. So what's

1929
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 3: her alter ego? John Hannah Hannah Mont John Hannah Mont Good,

1930
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 3: I think we're.

1931
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 12: Right.

1932
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 3: Two more a former team quarterback drafted with Drake meets

1933
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 3: a current player that rushes the quarterback will yeah, there

1934
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 3: you go. And then finally, a band with the hit

1935
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 3: song Rihannan that was also a first round quarterback with

1936
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 3: the patriotswood Leetwood Mac Jones. There you go, Rhannon, I

1937
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 3: said it wrong.

1938
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 2: Great song, probably my favorite one.

1939
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so that was good.

1940
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:22,640
Speaker 8: Good.

1941
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 2: Tyler a couple more The Lions huh go love the Lions.

1942
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 3: Tyler from Ludlow, Okay, Brendan and Edmonton. He says, I

1943
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 3: want no part of aj Brown at the price I

1944
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 3: think he'll cost after watching him last year. I don't

1945
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 3: think he can run or separate. I would rather invest

1946
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,560
Speaker 3: the resources and someone we can develop and take on

1947
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 3: the risk of them not being the developed player.

1948
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 2: The asking price, the price they'll get.

1949
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: I just feel like we've been doing that for the

1950
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 1: past six years. Like I think, if you get it,

1951
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 1: if you can get a j Brown, you go get him.

1952
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 3: Okay, Daniel and Dunned in Florida, how would you feel

1953
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 3: about giving Mike Evans a two or three year deal

1954
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 3: and then at tight end draft Oscar delt from Georgia

1955
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 3: see any good?

1956
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:15,599
Speaker 1: I haven't done my tight end yeh, that's a question.

1957
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: But the Mike Evans stuff, we could have used him

1958
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 1: years ago. But I think he's thirty three. Yeah, Like,

1959
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:21,759
Speaker 1: I think he's.

1960
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 13: More of a like.

1961
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:27,600
Speaker 1: I could see him on the bills, honestly, but I

1962
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 1: just don't think a thirty three year old helps us.

1963
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 1: Jacket and Arbor wants to note. Did I just hear

1964
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 1: Mike Rabil say that he has an open check book

1965
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: to sign free agents. I don't think so.

1966
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

1967
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so either.

1968
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna go at it.

1969
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 6: Logically, they're not just gonna close their eyes and swipe

1970
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 6: their credit card.

1971
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 3: And so I don't know if Rabel sees it the

1972
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 3: same way as Belichick used to. But Belichick was very

1973
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 3: aware of the locker room dynamic in terms of contracts. Yeah,

1974
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 3: you know, like if he felt this guy was better

1975
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 3: than this guy, he would make sure that the contracts

1976
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 3: lined up, and he would reward guys like you know, ah,

1977
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 3: you know, name some of the guys Tully, Bantacin or whatever.

1978
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 3: But he would he would reward guys with contracts who

1979
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 3: were his guys and to show the other players, like,

1980
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 3: if you do it my way, this is what you'll get.

1981
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 3: But there was a hierarchy in his locker room in

1982
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 3: terms of who made what, because every player knows what

1983
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 3: everybody else is making. It's no secret. It's all out there.

1984
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 3: So I don't know if Rabel's the same way. It'll

1985
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 3: be interesting. Spi in Fresno says, please Fred, please rank

1986
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 3: in order these products. Aaron's Speed Queen nut Wizard, and

1987
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 3: it includes slope with a soap with a slot for

1988
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 3: good measure. So a nut wizard is like somebody gave

1989
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 3: it to me. It's it's a device for picking up acorns.

1990
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 3: You ever see like the bingo cages.

1991
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1992
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it looks like a bingo cage on a

1993
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 3: broomstick and you roll it on your lawn in it

1994
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 3: and it picks up acorns in it. So I was

1995
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 3: complaining like twenty years ago, like we had this amazing

1996
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 3: season where there were just tons of acorns, and so

1997
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,759
Speaker 3: somebody sent me this nut. It's called the nut Wizard.

1998
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:25,879
Speaker 2: Why do you want to pick up the acorns?

1999
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 3: Oh, they're all over your lawn. Okay, yeah, you can't

2000
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 3: have that. It's not good for your lawn.

2001
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 2: The squirrels don't take them. Okay, it's not good for it.

2002
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 3: Well, the squirrels did, and then you get an abundance

2003
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 3: of squirrels and it's like a whole ecosystem station. Yeah.

2004
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 3: So anyway, right now, Aaron's like like, like, you know

2005
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 3: the job that it did over the last few days.

2006
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 6: Not to mention you kept it outside all all year.

2007
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, just right, it's just a tarp. I don't even

2008
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 3: put it in a garage.

2009
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:57,640
Speaker 2: Are you going to build it a garage? After what

2010
01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 2: it did for you?

2011
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 3: This needs a little workshop.

2012
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 7: For him.

2013
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 3: It really has earned a shed. Is on my top

2014
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 3: and speed Queen Love love the speed queen. Uh in

2015
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:13,600
Speaker 3: not words that I never have had to use it

2016
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 3: because once they scent it, I never had the acorn

2017
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:21,759
Speaker 3: problem again, third or fourth after and the slot doesn't

2018
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 3: it doesn't, it doesn't exist. But you know, okay us,

2019
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 3: he says, slightly concerned that Paul's absence for a funeral

2020
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 3: will disincline you all from the time honored tradition of

2021
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 3: trash talking the pfw p U absentee. Perhaps Eric finally

2022
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 3: got eaten by a Yemeny rescue dog. Uh, that would

2023
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 3: be a great story anyway, Please don't hold back, as

2024
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,799
Speaker 3: I'm sure the dearly departed would approved. Some pp jokes

2025
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,679
Speaker 3: related question for Fred as far as you can recall,

2026
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 3: has Paul always had the martyrdom complex where he imagines

2027
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 3: people are attacking his right to have an opinion? Or

2028
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 3: is that an artifact of the aging weight flux situation process. No,

2029
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 3: he's always been that way. Yeah, like you know everyone,

2030
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 3: he can't. He's the only one that can't have an opinion.

2031
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 3: But of course he's the one that has more opinions

2032
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:12,759
Speaker 3: than anyone.

2033
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm an Italian joke.

2034
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 3: He wouldn't like.

2035
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh, so go ahead, just it's the same thing

2036
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 6: he says about Italians, like everyone can only rag on

2037
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 6: Italians and they can't say anything back.

2038
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's like his that's just it's to cross that.

2039
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 1: It's terrible.

2040
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 3: It's terrible. Boston Cream rights. Boston Cream writes in hey guys,

2041
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 3: and tudo bem to Alex, what is tudo bem to?

2042
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 10: Like?

2043
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 2: What's up?

2044
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 3: Like?

2045
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 2: How are you?

2046
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 3: It's not Latin, it's what's good? No tudo bee Portuguese? Okay,

2047
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 3: okay okay. Fred as a tennis bro, have you gotten

2048
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 3: behind the pickleball trend? No, no, hard no, no, it's

2049
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 3: an abomination. I hate pick a ball sucks, sucks.

2050
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna go to the place.

2051
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 3: Up the hill? Hell no, hell no.

2052
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 6: He's a rocket purist.

2053
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 8: Yep.

2054
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 3: Kind of seems like at your current numerical age, that

2055
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 3: might be something you would dominate.

2056
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 2: Never never tennis, You use it until you lose.

2057
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 3: Like although April seventeenth, I'm going under the knife getting

2058
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 3: my achilles fixed and a bone spur removed, so I'll

2059
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 3: be out of action for a lease.

2060
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 2: What did you do to your achilles?

2061
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 3: It's just over time, it's just messed up, really like

2062
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 3: a piece of elastics. Yeah, like if I if I

2063
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 3: go full throttle, it'll snail. Yeah, it's it's on its

2064
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 3: way out.

2065
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: So and Daniel Jones, they're gonna fix that.

2066
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 3: And they're gonna there's a bone spur there in the

2067
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 3: same foot, so they're going to take care of that. Yeah.

2068
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 3: But I'm going to be out of action for probably

2069
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 3: eight weeks.

2070
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 14: So what will you do?

2071
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 2: Can you like sit in a chair and still.

2072
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm gonna get the scooter. I don't

2073
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 3: want to crutches.

2074
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:05,800
Speaker 1: The screen with the scooter.

2075
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2076
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, So April seventeenth, I'm going.

2077
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 1: Under the knife as giving you a scooter.

2078
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 3: Aaron's do they make big orange scooter?

2079
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 7: Maybe you could make a scooter to Toyota dot com

2080
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 7: to make you a scooter. What did you say, buy

2081
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:25,719
Speaker 7: a Toyota dot Com can make you a scooter?

2082
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go.

2083
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe Bob's Furniture can make them a scooter, you know,

2084
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 3: a nice collapsible one. Yeah, all right, Dustin right Sin.

2085
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:41,720
Speaker 3: Looking to the tampering period, how likely do you think

2086
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 3: the Patriots make a huge splash on offense rather than

2087
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 3: the speculation of trading for Max Crosby personally, I think

2088
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 3: the defense is great and could be bolstered through the draft.

2089
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 3: Let's get a J Brown. P S. I love you, Paul,

2090
01:41:55,920 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 3: don't ever change. So we haven't even mentioned Crosby on

2091
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 3: this show. He's another one that seems to love the

2092
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 3: Patriots and Mike Crable.

2093
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 1: I'm a big Max Crosby guy.

2094
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 3: I'd love to get Max Cross.

2095
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,840
Speaker 2: I think according to Rassini he's a big Rabel guy.

2096
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna apparently the Raiders are asking for to first

2097
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, so I do. I don't hope we're

2098
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 1: in a situation where is it between like the receiver

2099
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 1: like AJ and Crosby, because then you y'at pick one.

2100
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:25,799
Speaker 1: I want them both, but I just don't know that's realistic.

2101
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 3: L from Wisconsin says, I'm all in on AJ Brown.

2102
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 3: I think I'm a bit scarred still from the wide

2103
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 3: receivers this team is drafted that going all in on

2104
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 3: a known commodity is the best path forward. Plus, I

2105
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 3: think his skill set just matches so well with what

2106
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 3: it feels like Drake wants to do.

2107
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:45,759
Speaker 2: It would be awesome.

2108
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't want me calling him a red

2109
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 6: flag to take away from the fact that I would

2110
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:51,639
Speaker 6: be jumping up and down.

2111
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 1: I don't really broke that they were doing that all

2112
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 1: about you, But I don't really value the picks as much.

2113
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 1: Like there's a very good chance that AJ Brown Jefferson

2114
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,600
Speaker 1: are going to be at them. Yeah, he's there's a

2115
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 1: good chance for the next three maybe not next year's

2116
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 1: draft class because the wide receiver class is insane, but

2117
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 1: there's a good chance that those players are going to

2118
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:08,679
Speaker 1: be better than most of the wide receivers you draft.

2119
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 1: So why use the pick? Just get the sure thing?

2120
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. I've always said that, you know, like

2121
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 3: at you know, is he better than the draft pick?

2122
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2123
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 3: And thirty one A J. Brown is better than the

2124
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 3: thirty first draft pick.

2125
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 6: Now, if they're going to make a big trade like that,

2126
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 6: would you rather it be for Crosby or AJ Brown?

2127
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 1: So what's more important to you? To me, it's just Crosby, Yeah,

2128
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 1: it's but I do think, yeah, it well, it depends

2129
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 1: if you don't resign Chase On or like you need

2130
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 1: the edge rusher, Like, yeah, that's an important one.

2131
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 3: Let's see Eric and fort me Maryland. Thank you for

2132
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 3: your service. There's been rumors in the Internet that the

2133
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 3: Bears could be starting to move DJ More not a

2134
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 3: bad little player.

2135
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,719
Speaker 1: I fine, I just don't he doesn't move the needle

2136
01:43:58,840 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 1: like one of those guys.

2137
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 3: In the second half last year, he seemed to be

2138
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 3: getting fewer targets behind Colston Lovelin and was behind Roma

2139
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 3: Dunza in the first half of the season. It could

2140
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 3: be that More, in his twenty million dollar plus cap

2141
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 3: hit are at best a third or fourth target behind

2142
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 3: at Dunsay, Colston and possibly Lutha Burden, who saw a

2143
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,759
Speaker 3: lot more action in the latter part of the season.

2144
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 3: More is the same age as AJ Brown, can play

2145
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 3: the x or z and as a team captain as

2146
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:29,639
Speaker 3: opposed to being a disgruntled diva. I mean that Bears

2147
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 3: offenses loaded. Yeah, so you could see where he might

2148
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:34,760
Speaker 3: be the odd man out.

2149
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 1: You know, I think a Brian Thomas junior would be

2150
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 1: more entertaining to me personally than DJ Moore. But that's

2151
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 1: just me. That's a twenty three year old stud, young

2152
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 1: receiver who just headed down in the year.

2153
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 2: But would they want to part Like, yeah, will they

2154
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:51,720
Speaker 2: want to give him up?

2155
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's the question.

2156
01:44:55,320 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 3: Excuse me, Mike and Winchester, Virginia and Speed New Jersey.

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01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 3: Was that Saddlebrook? Maybe s B New Jersey? I don't know,

2158
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:10,559
Speaker 3: Guy South Brunswick, I'm not sure. A few quick points. First,

2159
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 3: I think this old line talk is crazy. Campbell needs

2160
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 3: to get a real off season under his belt to

2161
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 3: work on strength and wait at the NFL level. Just

2162
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:21,719
Speaker 3: get the kids some skinless chicken and he'll be fine.

2163
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 3: Second off season needs to be focused on getting a

2164
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 3: wr one in an edge one ye with that third

2165
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 3: three seasons. Three years ago, Houston was thriving and everyone

2166
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 3: was head over heels with Stroud. Now a few days

2167
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,919
Speaker 3: ago at the Combine, their GM had to tell reporters

2168
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 3: they weren't going to trade him this offseason. They've gone

2169
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 3: backwards a lot in the last few years. How do

2170
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 3: we protect Drake's development and avoid slipping back like Houston.

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01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 3: It's a good question. I mean, you don't want that regression, Darling,

2172
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 3: But maybe Stroud wasn't good at that good to begin with.

2173
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 1: I think Stroud split with his OC right was it

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01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 1: Lowick and they got there he left like I think,

2175
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 1: you keep things stable and you keep Josh McDaniels, and

2176
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 1: you keep the nucleus you have. I think that's one

2177
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:09,600
Speaker 1: of the issues of Mac Jones. He went through three coordinators.

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01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 1: Keep the coordinator. Yeah, he showed success with it. That's

2179
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 1: how you keep them wrong.

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01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 3: Lastly, today's my thirty second birthday. O. Happy birthday, Mike

2181
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 3: and Winchester. I've come to realize I've now been listening

2182
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 3: to you guys for half of my life. First time

2183
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:25,679
Speaker 3: I found PFW was after the twenty twelve playoff loss.

2184
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 3: Is there any way I can get a T shirt?

2185
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 3: I won one during the Trivia Conscience two years ago,

2186
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 3: but I received an excel instead of a small medium

2187
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 3: I asked for, and as a result haven't been able

2188
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 3: to wear it.

2189
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 12: Matt.

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01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 3: So, Matt, we had left? Oh, I just oh, I

2191
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 3: have a box. I have tons of them now, Yeah,

2192
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 3: but the ones in my office are just Excels, I think.

2193
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 3: But get the man a T shirt?

2194
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 1: We got you?

2195
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:52,400
Speaker 3: Do you have the email? Yes? I have this, all right,

2196
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:53,759
Speaker 3: So get Mike and Winchester.

2197
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 1: You shall receive all right, Um, got some mediums upstairs.

2198
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 3: So this is a good question. And you just mentioned

2199
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas junior Claudio in Brazil. Which wide receiver gives

2200
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 3: the best chance to win in twenty twenty six between A. J.

2201
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:11,639
Speaker 3: Brown and Brian Thomas Junior.

2202
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 1: I say, A J.

2203
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:22,679
Speaker 3: Brown, Yeah, assuming you can keep everybody. Yeah, yeah, Kieran

2204
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:26,799
Speaker 3: rights in from London. Oh, by the way, they announced

2205
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 3: the London games, and there's a chance that we could

2206
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 3: play there because.

2207
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 1: It would be Jacksonville that cash up again, right.

2208
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 3: Right, because we did play Jacksonville there already, right.

2209
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 1: We could also do Germany hypothetically, right.

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01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,439
Speaker 3: Well, Munich is still on the table as a home

2211
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 3: or away away. We can't be a home.

2212
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 2: Do you want to be a home team internationally this year?

2213
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 3: No? Nope, So it could it could happen.

2214
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 1: This is quite like we'd be an away team in Germany.

2215
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: But it's it's our market right.

2216
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 3: Right, so right, so yeah, we would still do a

2217
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 3: lot of stuff there. Karen says, love listening to you guys,

2218
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. Intrigued by Mike Reese's comments about Brian

2219
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 3: Thomas being a potential trade candidate or target, a respected

2220
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 3: quality journalist journalists like Mike does not come up with

2221
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 3: that name out of nowhere. Yeah, would love for us

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01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 3: to trade for Thomas or A J.

2223
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 8: Brown.

2224
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 3: What would be the most you would trade for either

2225
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:22,719
Speaker 3: of them. In terms of draft picks.

2226
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 1: It's interesting because the first is so late.

2227
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 3: See, I would try to get you know, creative. Yeah,

2228
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 3: you know, like move into like next year maybe yeah,

2229
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:40,559
Speaker 3: you know, because you make the case to the team, Hey,

2230
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 3: we'll probably be yeah, we're gonna probably be better next year.

2231
01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 3: We've got a tough schedule this year, you're going to

2232
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 3: get the thirty first. Next year a second rounder could

2233
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:51,639
Speaker 3: be you know, much higher in the second round.

2234
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:53,639
Speaker 1: Or you never know what these trades because I think

2235
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 1: when Hopkins left the Cardinals didn't get traded for like

2236
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 1: a third, So like everybody's like, oh, this might be

2237
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: a first, but then oh it's a third and a player. Yep,

2238
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 1: I do that, So yep, it's interesting. But I think

2239
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:09,719
Speaker 1: the first, it would be a first. They'd want to first,

2240
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: just knowing that our first is late, so you got

2241
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,679
Speaker 1: think of it as a fanly, Oh it's just a second, yeah, yep.

2242
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 3: Uh. Do you guys think with the depth and edge

2243
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:20,600
Speaker 3: in the draft that it may shift players down the

2244
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:24,599
Speaker 3: board as teams think they can wait to draft an edge,

2245
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 3: So that raises the possibility of waiting till Day two

2246
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 3: to get one and perhaps using our first round pick

2247
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,679
Speaker 3: to draft a position that might have slightly less depth.

2248
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 2: Kind of depends where the run happens.

2249
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 6: Once one or two go, they're all just gonna go

2250
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 6: like hotcakes.

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01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:47,560
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, let's see Chris from New Hampshire. Typically I

2252
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 3: write in assaulting callers. However, I'm taking a break from

2253
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:55,000
Speaker 3: my noble crusade to address a major concern I have

2254
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 3: about this offseason, and that's the that the scouting department

2255
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 3: has been banned from UNC. Being denied access to that

2256
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:05,679
Speaker 3: star studded powerhouse I fear will lead to a disastrous draft.

2257
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:08,920
Speaker 3: Why is no one talking about this? Neither Wolf nor

2258
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 3: Vrabel were even asked about this at the combine. It's

2259
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 3: a good point. I know he's only kidding. I know

2260
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 3: he's only kidding, But I think the ban was lifted.

2261
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 1: Hope, So was it?

2262
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 3: I think so? Jack In and Arbor says, Fred is right.

2263
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 3: The Patriots need a number one receiver, But what the

2264
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 3: Patriots need more is to fix their offensive line. The

2265
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 3: Patriots should use their first round pick on an offensive lineman.

2266
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 3: The Patriots may need to wait until twenty twenty seven

2267
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 3: to get their number one receiver certainly if you're looking

2268
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 3: for the draft. I don't think you're going to get

2269
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 3: a number one receiver in the draft. I really don't,

2270
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 3: at least not where we pick.

2271
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 14: It.

2272
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,719
Speaker 1: Just it stinks as a fan, like and it's happened before,

2273
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 1: Like you wait all this time for football and then

2274
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:53,719
Speaker 1: you take a guard or a tackle.

2275
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 3: It's just well, what do you think? I mean, you

2276
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 3: can't sit here and say you know you need to

2277
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 3: make the line better and then not do anything. Be

2278
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 3: unhappy if they pick a guard at thirty one. You

2279
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:07,679
Speaker 3: know you can't say both things.

2280
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 1: Hey, I might just be scarred from our previous guard

2281
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 1: we took.

2282
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 3: But right, you just get to get the right one. Everyone,

2283
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 3: you gotta get the right one. But assuming that you do,

2284
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 3: I won't complain if they pick a guard at thirty one.

2285
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 1: At thirty one, but yeah, all right. But also you

2286
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 1: want to know what stinks is that when we made

2287
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 1: that trade with Strange, we did the trade back. We

2288
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 1: passed over Tyler Tyler Lindabough I know, and now he's no.

2289
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 3: They affed up. They took the wrong guy and they

2290
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 3: paid too much for him. If you Strange in the

2291
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:38,440
Speaker 3: fourth round, no one would be saying anything.

2292
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 1: Were going to do.

2293
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me tell you something. I don't care what

2294
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 3: mcsha McVeigh said. Afterwards, they were laughing at us under

2295
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,599
Speaker 3: the clip. They were laughing at us for taking him

2296
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 3: in the first round. No disrespectacle, strange, great guy. I

2297
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:57,600
Speaker 3: hope he has a long career in the NFL, but

2298
01:51:57,720 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 3: he wasn't a first round talent.

2299
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 5: I agree we screwed up, we did.

2300
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he's upset, he's generational wealth,

2301
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 1: he's all good.

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01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:07,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know.

2303
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:12,560
Speaker 3: They were laughing at us, and deservedly, so, yeah, we

2304
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,439
Speaker 3: just can't do that again. But pick the right guard

2305
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 3: at thirty one. I I'll be fine with that. Plug

2306
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 3: him in to your point, to your point. Now you've

2307
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 3: got a rookie again next to two, right, so you

2308
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:29,839
Speaker 3: got that same problem.

2309
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, no, it's uh, it's Russ. But

2310
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 1: if you got to make the pick, do it. I

2311
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 1: just would rather have it be a mid round pick

2312
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: for a guard.

2313
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I hate doing this game, but like, what

2314
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 3: position would you pick at thirty one?

2315
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 1: Edge edge edge or if and listen, I haven't done

2316
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 1: all my my draft research yet, but like if that

2317
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:54,920
Speaker 1: if it's something like the kid from Oregon. The tight

2318
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 1: end drops like, I'd take that in a heart beat.

2319
01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 3: So best position level other than quarterback?

2320
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah really this year? Honestly, I trade the pick. I

2321
01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:07,720
Speaker 1: try to make the trade and get okay, trade down up?

2322
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:10,120
Speaker 1: Or do I just trade yeah? If you're getting all

2323
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 1: the way thirty one, i'd trade down yeah, or you

2324
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 1: try to get the vet through.

2325
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. The only way to trade up is bundle in.

2326
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I don't think there's any lot of assets.

2327
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:19,720
Speaker 3: Probably in twenty twenty seven, and you don't want to

2328
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 3: do that yet.

2329
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:23,719
Speaker 1: Well, if if aj Brown is available for your first

2330
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:26,600
Speaker 1: in your fourth, yeah or your third, yeah, do it.

2331
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, money, you're not trading up, you're trading out, yes,

2332
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 3: trading out, trading out, trading out.

2333
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 6: Edge and tight end are two needs that by all

2334
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:37,880
Speaker 6: accounts very deeped in talent in this class. So just

2335
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 6: hopefully it works out like it did last year for them.

2336
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,920
Speaker 6: And yeah, the guy they want is there when they

2337
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:43,360
Speaker 6: need him.

2338
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:46,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go back to the ag. It's not it.

2339
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 3: It's just a hotline, unsponsored hot line sponsorship listening. We

2340
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 3: need How many times do I mention the hotline every show?

2341
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 3: Why doesn't it have a sponsor. Oliver is in Denver.

2342
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 3: What's up, Oliver? Oliver?

2343
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 16: Yes, Yeah, Hype Patriots filtered crew checking in a bit

2344
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:11,560
Speaker 16: late off seasons idea. I was trying to rack my

2345
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 16: head with the Warriors call that Rabel was putting out

2346
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 16: the team, And the best answer I've got for it

2347
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 16: is that he was trying to pull out the Warriors

2348
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 16: of the Patriots. So he knew he was the guy

2349
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 16: that was trying to entice the Warriors to come out

2350
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 16: to fight. And that's the best answer that I got

2351
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 16: for the Warriors change.

2352
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 1: Okay.

2353
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 3: So right, okay, So I mean that's plausible because I

2354
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 3: know there was some pushback on the Warriors because in

2355
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 3: the movie.

2356
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 1: Warriors right lose, right, what they lose?

2357
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 3: It's these other guys that are being hunted by the Warriors.

2358
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 3: Ye no, no, no, wait, so Warriors come out to play.

2359
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 3: The bad guys were saying that about the.

2360
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 1: Warriors, who were the underdogs.

2361
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 3: The Warriors were the underdogs and they ended up winning.

2362
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 3: But the guys saying Warriors come out to play were

2363
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 3: the guys who lost. So this pushback in the Patriots

2364
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 3: and mccollins of Rabel's saying Warriors come out to play

2365
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 3: because in the movies, the gang that says that lost,

2366
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 3: which kind of what happened with us. But but I

2367
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 3: think I think what Oliver is saying might be plausible.

2368
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 3: Like he was saying, warriors this time of year, come

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Speaker 3: out to play, you know, and he was you know,

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Speaker 3: you heard him many times saying that this Big Dogs

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Speaker 3: come out in January. You know. But there's not a

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Speaker 3: movie called Big Dogs.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that.

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Speaker 3: It's a terrible movie. I was. I was old enough

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Speaker 3: to see it in the theater. It was schmall sy

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01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 3: it was. It was awful.

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Speaker 2: Really, Oh yeah, would described like this cult classic.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of so bad. That's why it's

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Speaker 3: a cult classic.

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Speaker 1: When you saw you you thought it was gonna be

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Speaker 1: good because you saw in theaters.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. Back then, you went to the movies

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01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 3: every week. Yeah, you know. That was a thing to

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01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 3: do as a kid. You go to the movies. Now

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Speaker 3: do you go, Well, you're kid, you're not really kids anymore.

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Speaker 1: But I love high school.

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Speaker 3: My high schoolers go to the movie theater.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I used to love to every week, if not twice

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Speaker 6: a week. My friends five dollars Tuesdays. Oh my god,

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01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 6: hit that up all the time.

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Speaker 3: Good Slate coming this summer. So you go to the

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01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 3: Cape Cod Mall, you hang out. They had the theater

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01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 3: in the back. You go to the movie theater one

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Speaker 3: Fleet driving. Yes, but I don't know if kids go

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01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:33,520
Speaker 3: to the movie theater anymore.

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Speaker 6: Do kids have the attention spans for movies anymore?

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Speaker 1: There are people that watch movies just through TikTok. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they watched they watched the clips and they just like,

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Speaker 1: like sixty sixty clips.

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Speaker 3: That's sad, insane.

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01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:45,520
Speaker 8: It is.

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01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 3: See it's sad.

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Speaker 6: And now the sad thing is like our movie is

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01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 6: going to start being They are like scripts are being

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01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 6: written and movies are being produced for those attention spans

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Speaker 6: in mind.

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01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 3: It's terrible.

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Speaker 7: I took my kids to the theater last week and

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01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 7: it was packed with kids. Okay, what you say, goat

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01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 7: basketball movie for kids. Okay, it's like this generation Space jam.

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01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 7: Steph Curry's movie Good Good to Know, Good to Know.

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01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:16,000
Speaker 7: But you know, it has to be an appreciation of

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Speaker 7: the art.

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01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 2: I agree.

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01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 3: There's a lot of work that goes into making a movie.

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01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 3: You know. I saw that movie with DiCaprio and Sean

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01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 3: Penn another.

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01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 2: I watched it on the plane. I watched it on

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Speaker 2: the plane of the Super Bowl.

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01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 1: Finally, it was great, watch it the way the director

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01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 1: intended on the little screen exactly.

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Speaker 3: So did you see Sinners?

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01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:36,720
Speaker 8: Yeah? No, not yet.

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01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:38,600
Speaker 3: Which one did you like better?

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01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 1: I didn see the other one?

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01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 3: Okay, One Battle after Another is a better movie.

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01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:44,680
Speaker 1: Sinners is just a fun movie.

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01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think One Battle after Another was a better movie.

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01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on my list.

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01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's worth it.

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01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 2: It's probably the best movie I've seen in a while.

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01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Sean Penn's unbelievable. He becomes you know, like Paul

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01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 3: laughs at me, like I didn't even know that with

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01:58:00,400 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 3: Sean Penn. He was so acting so well, And Paul

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01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 3: always laughs at me when I say things like that,

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01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:09,000
Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, like he becomes the character,

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01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 3: like it's you know, I thought.

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01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 2: The young girl was really good in that too.

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01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 6: Oh every biller, but you'll know what I'm talking about

2441
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 6: the scene on the hill with the car where Shet Yeah,

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01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 6: so good.

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01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 3: And you know DiCaprio, I think everything he's in as good. Yeah,

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01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 3: he's really good.

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01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:25,840
Speaker 2: So I just watched Catch Me.

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01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 6: If you can recently and I was just like, oh man,

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01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 6: this is such a one of the I love that movie,

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01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 6: Like it's just so so good and the fact that

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01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 6: it's all true story is just great movie.

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Speaker 3: All Right, Well, listen, wouldn't be an off season if

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01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 3: we didn't, you know, veer off the course a little.

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01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 2: Bit the last five minutes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Combine continues. More stuff coming out on Patriots dot

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01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 3: com and the Patriots social accounts from the Combine Deuce Evan,

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01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 3: Matt Smith out there, uh and a team of others

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01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:00,600
Speaker 3: capturing all that stuff for you, So keep in touch

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01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 3: with the Combine villa that way. As for us, we

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Speaker 3: will see you next Tuesday.

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