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Speaker 2: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 1: Hell that for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for it.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: be happy. You want to be happy for day Edo

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Speaker 2: And down and tie.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the solid raple, boys and girls. My

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Speaker 3: name is ty Hilda Brandt. That fun gentleman over there,

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Speaker 3: back from his travels traveling coast to coast playing on

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Speaker 3: the ATP tour.

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Speaker 1: Dan rubistinz Welllow, thank you. I was in a big

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Speaker 1: twelve country tie. I was in just outside of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: to be clear. I went to beautiful Mason, Ohio to

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Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati, past the Bengals Stadium, past the Red Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Didn't get to spend any time in the beautiful city

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Speaker 3: It's wonderful to have you back. Thanks, and we welcome

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Speaker 3: all of over Bawlers back.

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Speaker 2: To the show.

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Speaker 3: It is getting closer, getting closer. We did all of

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Speaker 3: our conference previews, we had a chance to ruminate, to

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Speaker 3: let some of our thoughts fester and come to a boil.

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Speaker 3: I'm using all sorts of mixed metaphors here.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's okay.

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Speaker 3: Today is the predictions show, where we've got predictions far

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Speaker 3: and wide, actual predictions, some of the more abstract fantasy

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Speaker 3: things variety as well. We are going to just lay

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Speaker 3: it all out here. If you want to save this

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Speaker 3: episode to use against us later, for all the haters

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Speaker 3: out there, this would be the episode that you'd want

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Speaker 1: What percentage of your predictions are you willing to stand

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Speaker 1: by today? Like it's like, no matter what, I'm standing

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Speaker 1: by this. And will you apologize if you get something

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Speaker 1: dramatically wrong? No, this is the no apologies episode, no apologies,

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Speaker 1: and you will own it like, yep, I screwed that up,

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Speaker 1: but you know what, at the time it was a

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Speaker 1: defensible position. No apologies to it right here, no apologies.

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Speaker 1: Here are the receipts. You can use them all all

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Speaker 1: season long. And the only thing is if you were

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Speaker 1: going to say, yep, Tye was totally wrong about Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: you'll also have to come correct.

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Speaker 2: Tie.

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Speaker 1: Is that the term? You gotta gotta be reasonable here

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Speaker 1: and say, you know what, but he nailed the pit thing.

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Speaker 1: You gotta say it. If I nails something, you gotta

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Speaker 1: give credit where it's due. So if one of these

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Speaker 1: like I know this is out there, Cal's.

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Speaker 2: Winning ten games.

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Speaker 1: If one of these hits of however many predictions you have,

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Speaker 1: which is how many I haven't many?

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Speaker 2: I didn't even count. I didn't even count how many

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Speaker 1: I have sixteen down here, I probably have around there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: predictions only need one right the old adage for like

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Speaker 1: TV networks, you just need one hit, just need one hit.

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Speaker 1: You just need one hit. So I don't care if

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Speaker 1: were going to hear about it for the next eleven years.

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Speaker 2: That's why people listen to this show.

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Speaker 3: Dan, I know as always make sure you follow along

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Speaker 3: on social media. If you agree, disagree, feel indifferent on

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Speaker 3: solid Verbal on pretty much every social platform. We're also

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Speaker 3: out on YouTube, where you can watch this episode. Solid

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Speaker 3: Shall we dive in? Yes, that's been my hypothetical, my predictions.

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Speaker 2: Everything is here.

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Speaker 3: You want a little let down look ahead, good done,

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Speaker 3: I can do let down look ahead.

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Speaker 1: You want shootouts, you can do shootouts.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you want. Just let me know.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. I'm getting ready here for the season.

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Speaker 1: We we might need some new sounds too. Every year

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Speaker 1: I will make the Yannie sound for Yanni carloftis okay,

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Speaker 1: how are we doing this? We're just going back and

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Speaker 1: forth with predictions. I think we're going back and forth.

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Speaker 3: I have a number of over unders that I think

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Speaker 1: You adore these numbers, is what you're saying. You adore

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Speaker 1: the following overs and unders. You would drive these specific

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Speaker 3: Okay, Michigan has the easiest schedule in the Big ten,

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Speaker 3: So what if they've got an easy schedule, there's still

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Speaker 1: There, it is See I'm not a tie. So do

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Speaker 1: you feel like we've become too Michigan positive on this show?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, Michigan over ten and a half, Okay, you

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Speaker 3: I'm also on Oklahoma over nine and a half. I

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Speaker 3: The offense will be very good. There are what four, five,

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, keep going. Kansas State over eight and a half.

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Speaker 1: good offensive line. Treyshawn Ward should eat Will Howard remains

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Speaker 2: I'm in Okay State, baby.

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Speaker 3: It is one of the easiest schedules in the conference.

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Speaker 3: They've got one of the best coaches in the conference.

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Speaker 3: I think we're slowly coming to that conclusion. Yeah, obviously

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Speaker 3: But this is a bet on the transfers working and

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Speaker 3: gutted on defense at this point. So that's I think

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Speaker 3: but I don't share it.

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Speaker 3: Miami over seven and a half. Dan getting spicier as

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Speaker 3: I kind of ordered these. Yep, I think Miami is

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna win games by three instead of losing by three.

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Speaker 3: you can find out of for.

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Speaker 1: Ballers dot com.

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Speaker 3: You pick the over under all sixty nine Power five

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: So if to the extent that any.

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Speaker 3: Of this is instructive, I don't know, but this is

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Speaker 1: Okay, keeping Entucky over seven.

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Speaker 3: The schedule is not easy. It does get tougher as

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Speaker 3: And I'm actually quite bullish on Liam Cohen coming back.

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Speaker 1: I like the combination. Unclear how I feel about Devin

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Speaker 3: I like that next next up, I've got pit over

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Speaker 1: That's what they do.

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Speaker 3: It is there, And there are questions about the defense

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Speaker 3: but yeah, over seven to me. Two more Cal under five.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so new offensive coordinator, new quarterback, losing couple playmakers

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Speaker 3: I said this when we were doing our previews, that

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Speaker 1: So the good news with Cal if you're a Cal fans,

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Speaker 2: Yes, they're not beating Auburn. They're not beating Auburn.

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Speaker 1: But wouldn't they wouldn't. Wouldn't it be just like Cal

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Speaker 1: Under five, under five. Okay, and my my final over

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Speaker 1: Say the number twelve out loud right now. Twelve Okay,

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Speaker 1: on Vandy. I think they make a bowl game. I

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Speaker 1: And there's Vandy, Little Old Vandy, weird disarray, weird disarray,

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Speaker 1: do you have any more over underpicks?

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Speaker 2: No more over unders for me? What do you have?

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Speaker 1: Okay, give me a number between one and sixteen, Actually

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Speaker 1: Dan will lock up a team that loses by twenty

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Speaker 2: The scream is you at the end.

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Speaker 1: It's been an off season of supreme confidence. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: There's going to be a team that I put in

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Speaker 1: It's also one of those things because of the swings

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Speaker 1: I'm still going to lock them up. And Auburn loses

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Speaker 2: Give me No.

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Speaker 1: Nine, number nine. This also, it's not internal Ty liked

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Speaker 1: I think Luke Fickle is going to be an incredible

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Speaker 2: See, I think they're going to hit the ground running.

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Speaker 3: I think they're going to hit the ground running. It's

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Speaker 3: I just kind of have been in this situation before.

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Speaker 2: So you're not wrong in saying that, right wrong at all?

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Speaker 3: And I could one hundred percent see this bet hitting,

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Speaker 1: but I think they're this assumption that like, all right,

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00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: he's leveling up. I don't know, man, American defenses aren't

440
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,719
Speaker 1: quite what he'll be facing on this kid. That's it's

441
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: a fair but that's all I work about.

442
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: Okay, give me number five. Oh, we're just rifling through.

443
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 2: Here we go.

444
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: Boise State is going to beat Washington, who will then

445
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: go on to run the table during the regular season.

446
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 2: I like this one.

447
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: So this lands on the heels of what we say

448
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: every season. Don't be confident in week one. The big

449
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: change happens between week one and week two when everybody

450
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: sees what they have. And what Boise State does and

451
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: what Andy Avlos does is they confuse quarterbacks, they scheme well,

452
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: they run weird sets on defense, and even though Boise

453
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: is replacing a lot of dudes on defense, I think

454
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: they're going to have something there. And there has been

455
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: an off season of the drum beat about Washington and

456
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: playoff and winning the conference and breaking through once again

457
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 1: post Chris Peterson that I think there is going to

458
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: be a little bit too long term thinking on the

459
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: part of Washington. Looking at USC on the road, I

460
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: think Oregon at home. So I have Washington losing and

461
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: then winning eleven straight. I love that pick so much,

462
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: Thank you. I love that pick so much. I've got

463
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: Washington winning the PAC twelve by the way, Okay, and

464
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm standing by what I said during the PAC twelve preview.

465
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: Washington's good enough to win that conference for sure.

466
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 3: Now, I also think everybody else in the conference is

467
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: good enough to beat Washington, and I expect a full on.

468
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: Everybody in the conference is good enough to be Washington.

469
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: Everybody at the top, forget me.

470
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 3: I think that there will be another PAC twelve cannibalizing

471
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 3: itself type of situation.

472
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: Okay, in twenty twenty three.

473
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, you have Oregon, you have USC

474
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: on the road, and you have Utah at home, and

475
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: so it's tricky, and it's Oregon State right after that

476
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: Apple Cup right after that. It's a really tricky November

477
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: for Washington. No, but I still think the combination. I

478
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: think Washington's in great shape. If the Oregon game was

479
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: in Eugene, i'd like Oregon in that game. I think

480
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: they're pretty tight. And if the game were in Seattle,

481
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: which it is, I like Washington. That's the edge I give.

482
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: And so I think they're more complete team than USC

483
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: and I think they have more firepower than Utah. So

484
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 1: that is the bold take prediction that I have at

485
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: this moment. But yeah, Boise State early week one weirdness,

486
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: I do like that.

487
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: Let me jump in.

488
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: You kind of gave me a nice segue to talk

489
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 3: about the Heisman odds that I like. Okay, you mentioned Washington.

490
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 3: Michael Pennix right now is sixteen to one, which I

491
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: think is a pretty good number, to be honest with you,

492
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: And I was looking at him relative to a guy

493
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: like a JJ McCarthy, who I also think is an

494
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: interesting name in this discussion.

495
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

496
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: What I like about Michael Pennix though, is I think

497
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: given that system, it's now going to be what his

498
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 3: third year with Kaitlin de Boorr. I think he has

499
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: a stronger likelihood of putting up those pinball numbers, and

500
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: I like that that plays well in.

501
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: The Heisman race.

502
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 3: At sixteen to one, Michael Penick Junior is an interesting

503
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: play for me. I don't like the Heisman Trophy in general,

504
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: but I do enjoy the Heisman contender conversation. Okay, I

505
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: think Michael Pennitt's at Penis at sixteen to one is interesting.

506
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: If you like odds that are a little bit longer,

507
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: and you like Michigan as much as I do, I

508
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: probably wouldn't go JJ McCarthy. I still would go with

509
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 3: Blake Coream and I know there's the health concern he's

510
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: recovering from the injury.

511
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: I get all that. I think he'll be fine. He

512
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 2: will again be the focal point.

513
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: Of that offense if Michigan has the kind of season

514
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: I'm expecting with him as the focal point of full

515
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 3: season full health. Twenty eight to one for Blake Korum

516
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 3: feels like a really good number.

517
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: Have well, who is the last running back to win?

518
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: I don't know.

519
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: Dereck Henry twenty fifteen. It's been a minute So if

520
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about odds, obviously quarterback unless there's a game

521
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: changing receiver, which we happen to have in the sport

522
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: this year, at least one in Marvin Harrison Junior. That's right,

523
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: DeVante Switt Smith wins it.

524
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: Two three years ago.

525
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: I think you have to stick with quarterback if you're

526
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: going with a sleeper. I don't think Drake May is

527
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: going to win enough games. No, because his odds are

528
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: down there. His odds are down there. I don't like

529
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: picking a running back in quorum, especially because he's not

530
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: a Reggie Bush type. They're not going to split him

531
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: out in the slot. They're not going to use him

532
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: in the return game, like I think you need that

533
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: all purpose Christian McCaffrey type weapon at a running back.

534
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so hold on hold that thought. Please sixty to one.

535
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: Will Shipley my third pick. Don't like it.

536
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: I just don't.

537
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: I mean, Will Shipley is more of the Christian McCaffrey type.

538
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: Yes, and I think there's a decent shot he ends

539
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: up in New York.

540
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: I just I don't know.

541
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: I don't.

542
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: It's rare that I get to back you into a corner, Okay,

543
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: And I feel I've done it.

544
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: Here and I'm gonna pat myself on the back for it.

545
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: Will Shipley will be used more creatively, especially with Garrett

546
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Riley agreed. Clemson has the opportunity, it's relatively early on

547
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: against Notre Dame to have that, to have that like

548
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: Heisman moment game yep, where he has to do everything

549
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: game to essentially be whatever it is Christian any any

550
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: of these all purpose guys that we've seen over the years.

551
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: May sixty to one is a pretty good number for

552
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: wolfshe I don't hate it.

553
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't hate it. The reason I also don't love

554
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: running backs is they tend to get beat up over

555
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: the course of a year, whereas a receiver or a quarterback,

556
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: I think it gives you a better chance at playing

557
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen games if I'm going longer. Heisman Joe Milton

558
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: is interesting to me.

559
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: Twenty two Is he at twenty two to one.

560
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: Something around there?

561
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

562
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

563
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe is interesting to me just because I think

564
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: he's been running with the ones more and you're getting

565
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: an Alabama quarterback at a really nice plus number.

566
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

567
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: The interesting thing about Jalen Milroe is I think that

568
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: offense is gonna be geared, and he did the Alabama preview.

569
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: You could probably speak this more than me, But I

570
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 3: do think there is some validity to your whole point

571
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: around the SEC being more man ball this year. Sure,

572
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 3: And I think part of what we're going to see

573
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 3: at Alabama is especially now with Tommy Reese steering into

574
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: the quarterback run game and Dalen Milroe's definitely got that bone.

575
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: The guy can run and he's a big dude. I think,

576
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: combined with what they've got at the running back position,

577
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: which is always strong, that could be a really interesting play.

578
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: He could put up a really nice stat line in

579
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: that offense if it goes the way I think it's going.

580
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: To the other one. And this is leaning into you

581
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: more than it is leaning into me. But just in

582
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: terms of plus money, ceiling and things lining up for

583
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: him in terms of spotlight, don't do it. Don't do it,

584
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: Drew Aller, not Sam Hartman. Drew Aller, Yeah, because he's

585
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: an unknown quantity. Sam Hartman is up there. He's in

586
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: like the top ten, I assume just because of the

587
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: stage he's on and because of the success he's had already,

588
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: and so that he's seen as like a plug and

589
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: play piece, whereas Drew Aller could come out right away,

590
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: and I think they have Iowa at the end of

591
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: September ish, so he gets that moment to show off.

592
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: Everybody will know that Iowa has a good defense. So

593
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: if he can show out against Iowa and look, he

594
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: would have to have just a bonkers game at Ohio State.

595
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: But the stage is there for Drew Aller to be

596
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: set up and they should win a ton of games.

597
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: Those are my heisman picks.

598
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: My Heisman picks are Michael Panick sixteen to one, Blake

599
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: Korum twenty eight, will Shipley at sixty.

600
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: All right, give me a number between one and fourteen

601
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: that I haven't previously selected. Give me ten.

602
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: Ten is good, and this is kind of in line

603
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: what we've discussed. Okay, I have a couple of these.

604
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: Number ten. Notre Dame will do some nonsense and beat

605
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: Ohio State and lose to either Duke or Louisville immediately thereafter.

606
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no objections here.

607
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: They will beat Ohio State because the game is in

608
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: South Bend, because they will have a more season quarterback

609
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: for that moment than either Kyle mccorridor Devin Brown. Ohio

610
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: State still has some offensive line questions, and they will

611
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: be trying to handle a pretty dangerous Notre Dame front

612
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: that I think there will be an electricity, a frenzy

613
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: in South Bend, and I think Ohio State will struggle

614
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: to consistently do what it wants to do early on

615
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: in the season. It's a good time to get Ohio State.

616
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: Notre Dame will have an incredibly pronounced letdown immediately thereafter.

617
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: Could see it, could see it.

618
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: I'm surprised you didn't make a prediction that Sam Hartman

619
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: throws like seven interceptions in that game.

620
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: Well, that's sort of it's implogos without saying that is

621
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: the pick. That is the pick right there, That energy

622
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: and defense and seasoning at quarterback helps to win that

623
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: game for Notre Dame in an incredibly raucous home atmosphere.

624
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: And I think both those games are on the road.

625
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: Yes, Louisville and Duke I believe so, Yeah, they're.

626
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: Both on the road. That was one of my operative

627
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: phrases of these predictions doing some nonsense.

628
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: Doing some nonsense.

629
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: I mean that it's an interesting pick against Ohio State

630
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: because when you think of Ohio State this year, you

631
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: obviously think of the animal they've got out Why with

632
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior, with Mecca Igbuca, Julian Fleming. I mean

633
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: they're so deep at receiver. Notre Dame is surprisingly deep

634
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: in the secondary, which is a.

635
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: New thing for Irish fans.

636
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: If you follow the team as long as I have,

637
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: you'll know that, outside of a few flashes here and

638
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: there with individual contributors, to ever be at the point

639
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: where it felt like they had secondary depth, that just

640
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: has not happened. That's not to say that Benjamin Harrison

641
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: can go toe to toe with Marvin Harrison. I don't

642
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: know if anybody can cover him right, but I do

643
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: think that they're in a pretty good spot from a

644
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: pass defense standpoint, and so maybe they have a shot.

645
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. You're ready for another number, Give me

646
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: number two.

647
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: Number two. It will be a surprise final season. And

648
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: this is NFL or retirement, not firing, so sort of

649
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: a positive thing NFL or retirement unless it's sort of forced,

650
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: uncomfortable retirement for someone huge. Nick Saban, Kirby, Smart, Ryan Day,

651
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, Lincoln Riley.

652
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: You think Harball would be a surprise. I don't think

653
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: he'd be a surprise.

654
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 1: Not a surprise in the traditional sense that you know,

655
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: we've always sort of known that he covets the Super

656
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: Bowl win in the NFL.

657
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

658
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: I think Michigan fans have convinced themselves that no, it's

659
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: it was a flirtation, but this is a long term thing.

660
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: Look at how everything is now lining up for him.

661
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: He's a playoff coach Michigan. Is this two time champion, Like,

662
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: why would he leave? This doesn't make sense. Well, the

663
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: Minnesota thing was the last flirtation.

664
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't buy that for a second.

665
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: And the other aspect to that story now is we've

666
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: made a little bit of hay over the ncuble, the

667
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: squabble with the NCAA, the negotiated four game suspension, which

668
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: the NCAA has said, no deal, no deal. They're actually

669
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: going to push the envelope on this thing. It is

670
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: not about the cheeseburger. The vice president of the NCAA

671
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: came out and said, guys, it's not about him buying

672
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: a cheeseburger.

673
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: It's about him giving false statements to investigate, which means

674
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: it is about the cheeseburger. It's probably nonetheless.

675
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that was their line, not mine, and that

676
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: is going to be pushed off into the offseason. So

677
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: there's a pretty good chance that before twenty twenty four

678
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: it's going to hit the proverbial fan with Harbaugh in

679
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: the NCAA. And it gives him a chance to ride

680
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: out into the sunset if they should go to the

681
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 3: playoff again, if they should win a national championship.

682
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 2: That kind of gives him.

683
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, he's an option, not the option.

684
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: A chance to exit stage left and go off into

685
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 3: the NFL. Lincoln Riley is interesting. Ryan Day is also interesting.

686
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 3: If we find ourself in a situation where he loses

687
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: to Michigan three years in a row, despite the fact

688
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: that they have so much talent in Columbus, you know

689
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 3: that the Natives will be getting restless.

690
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 2: They already are. I know they already are.

691
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: Ryan Dan big games, And it's crazy that we're having

692
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: this conversation about Ryan Day. Who again, what's crazy?

693
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: It's totally crazy A field goal away, Yeah, totally crazy,

694
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: thirty one feet away.

695
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't close at all.

696
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: No, No, I agree with the restlessness because, Okay, Ohio

697
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: State would be thrilled to win. Ohio State fans would

698
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: be thrilled to win a national championship, as anybody would

699
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: be every year. You can't do it losing to Michigan

700
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: all the time. You cannot be a long term guy

701
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: at Ohio State losing to Michigan in streaks. Sure, you

702
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: just can't. And look, we're getting an expanded playoff, so

703
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: the likelihood of surviving a Michigan loss and still going

704
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: far in the playoff has increased. But I think people

705
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: are growing a little bit tired of losing to Michigan

706
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: and losing in the playoff because Ohio State recruits like

707
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: a team that should win a national championship, I don't know,

708
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: once every three or four years, five years, whatever, and

709
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: we're getting to be a little bit long in the

710
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: tooth with that, just in terms of single Higo state

711
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: national championships. Nick Saban, obviously, given his age, it's just

712
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: tiring to be Nick Saban, it must be, even though

713
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: it seems like he loves coaching high level college football.

714
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart, that would be a burnout, Lincoln Riley, it

715
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: would be an NFL thing. And we already discussed Ryan

716
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: Day Jim Harbaugh.

717
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: Interesting, Wow, that is spicy, Dan, Thank you very much.

718
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 2: You want to pick another number. Do you have something?

719
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: Give me number four, number four. I'm not keeping I understand,

720
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: I'll start giving you Okay, I'll start giving you your options.

721
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: Number four.

722
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: If the playoff will have a new team in its

723
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: final four team season, it will be the Pennsylvania State University. WHOA,

724
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: So I know that's sort of qualifying and naif thereing

725
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying penn State is definitely going to make it,

726
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: but if there is going to be a new team.

727
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: So remember some of the teams who have gotten a

728
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: lot of spark and hype over this offseason, I've actually

729
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: made the play Like Florida State has made the playoff.

730
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: They made the first playoff, Washington has made the playoff.

731
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: So you could say Texas and I gave it some thought.

732
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: And the battle between Steve's Sarkisian and James Franklin. To me,

733
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: even though you're talking about recruiters who have underperformed at

734
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: times given talent level, James Franklin has still won a

735
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: Big Ten title, has still won double digit games in

736
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: a season. Steve Sarkisian has not, even though new coaches

737
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: at his previous two spots as a head coach, both

738
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: won double digits in their first seasons. Combination quarterback and defense.

739
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: You give me that defense, You give me the line

740
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: that's finally come together. You give me the running backs

741
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: who will form a good one too. It's at Ohio State,

742
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: but hosting Michigan that they are the closest team to

743
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: me that have that combination potentially of quarterback and defense

744
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: continuity with coordinators, right with Mike Yersich and Manny Diaz.

745
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: They've got the home field advantage. Yeah, and I couldn't

746
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: think of a team that hasn't made the playoff that

747
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: I would select to get to the playoff given roster

748
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: construction this year. You have a team that you would

749
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: go well cnatively for.

750
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 2: Me, it's tex I know it is. It is Texas, and.

751
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: But there's zero chance you would take Texas over Penn

752
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: State on a neutral field tomorrow.

753
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 2: Right, Probably? Not right?

754
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: Probably? Not the thing about Texas, though, it's an easier path.

755
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: It's an easier path through the Big Twelve than I

756
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: think it will be for Penn State through the Big Ten.

757
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: Penn State has West Virginia, Texas has Alabama.

758
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Penn State's going to roll West Virginia in Week

759
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: one Okay, they're going to dismantle West Virginia in Week one.

760
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: Wow.

761
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let's just that's not spicy. They are

762
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: favored in that game.

763
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're going to drill them.

764
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 3: But I think the Texas case is pretty simple. It's

765
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: they lost by what one last year to Alabama. Granted

766
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: this game this year will be in Tuscaloosa, but provided

767
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: they don't get blown out by Alabama, it doesn't hurt

768
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: their playoff chances. That's a good loss provided.

769
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: It hurts their playoff chances in that their margin is

770
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: a lot less because their margin is essentially run the

771
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: table in the Big twelve.

772
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: Margin is less short, but it's not a bad loss

773
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: on its face. I think Texas also has the combination

774
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: of a really good defense and Quinnewres, so I believe

775
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 3: is a really good quarterback. They've also got a lot

776
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: of talent around Quinnewers, particularly out wide. The line is very,

777
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 3: very solid. They are built to win and built to

778
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 3: win now. So I know that Texas has been a

779
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: running joke and that they've gosh, they've not gotten as

780
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: much out of their talent as they should have for

781
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: what feels like an eternity since we've been doing this show, yep,

782
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: but I think I think this is a year. I

783
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: really do, so I'm on Texas. Yeah, to give me

784
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: playoff game.

785
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: The counterpoint is they always underperform their talent no matter

786
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: who the coach is. And now you add in a

787
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: seven win Washington coach. Right, So that's that's the easy counterpoint.

788
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: I get it.

789
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: I totally get it, and I understand the Penn State

790
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: optimism as well. By the way, can I set the

791
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: record straight play to say I set wrong on the preview?

792
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 3: It's Deny Dennis Sutton, Deny Dennis Sutton d DS, Deny

793
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: Dennis Sutton, YEP. I knew better and I still screwed

794
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: it up. But Deny Dennis Sutton is the name to watch.

795
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: He's gonna be the superstar. Maybe we can make that

796
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: prediction number seventeen for you, d DS.

797
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: Okay, one, three, four, six, seven, eight eight. Ole Miss

798
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: is going to do some nonsense like lose to Tulane

799
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: and then beat Bama, or beat LSU or No So

800
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: and then beat Bama period. Or they'll beat LSU and

801
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: lose to Vanderbilt. Yeah, that's not even that spicy. It

802
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: feels like that's.

803
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: Like time mild, right there, tie mild, that.

804
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: That is the prediction. I just think there's so much

805
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: variability with a team like Ole Miss, and you've got

806
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I don't know if it's an actual quarterback battle,

807
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: but there's a quarterback conversation at the top. They've got

808
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: a terrific running back. They're overhauling things on defense, which

809
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: is a very polite way of saying, a lot of

810
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: dudes left. A lot of dudes left that defense. New coaches,

811
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: new coordinat like. I just there's something about Old Miss

812
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: that is just going to be volatile and it's very

813
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: mild prediction.

814
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: One of the more interesting teams in college football this year.

815
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 3: Yep, Miss, Absolutely, let's do conference champs, real quick, Conference champions.

816
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: Hit me, who do you got in the Big twelve?

817
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: I think we agreed on Texas. I have no recollection.

818
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 2: We agreed on Texas.

819
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I remember ACC I had Florida State. Did you

820
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: have Florida State or Clemson?

821
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: No recollection? I think Clemson, but I don't.

822
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: Remember Big ten.

823
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: I've got Michigan, Yeah, I took Michigan as well. Pac twelve,

824
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: I've got Washington.

825
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: I believe you took Oregon.

826
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: I did take Oregon over Washington, losing in the regular season,

827
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: winning in Vegas in the final PAC twelve championship game, which,

828
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: by the way, subtopic rumors about the Big Ten playing

829
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: its championship game in the future in Vegas.

830
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: Hate it, Hate it.

831
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: God, it feels so dirty. It's feels so dirty to

832
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: like raid a conference and then like, actually, like I

833
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: know I'm marrying your ex wife, but could we buy

834
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: your bed? Is that weird?

835
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: I hate it? I hate it.

836
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: Don't flate in Vegas. Nothing against Vegas, but just it's

837
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 3: that's not a Big Ten.

838
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: It would be a destination. You have the West Coast presence.

839
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: I understand the thinking, but I saw that and it

840
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: felt a little bit dirty.

841
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 3: Just don't do it every year. Okay, don't do it

842
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 3: every year. Once every four years is great. Rotate among cities,

843
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 3: but don't no, please.

844
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: I took Oregon.

845
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: Can I give you another sub on that topic of

846
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: conference champions There is enough assumption that USC's defense will

847
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: be awful once again that I almost want to zag

848
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: here and say USC like sub prediction to your prediction.

849
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: USC's defense will be fine. They're not going to be great.

850
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: They're not going to be good. They are going to

851
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: be far less of a talking point this year. If

852
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: they're fine, they might be national champions. I know they

853
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: won't be national championship. Was an okay defense, just because

854
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on them as a complete team, and

855
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,959
Speaker 1: I and in a playoff you still need a deep

856
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: defense to uh to win two games. But I think

857
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna be fine. I don't think they're gonna be good.

858
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be nothing that we are going

859
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: to kind of giggle about against Utah.

860
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 3: You can say that about needing a deep defense to

861
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: win a playoff game, but look at the scores in

862
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 3: the playoff games last year.

863
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: I know it wasn't a whole lot of defense. That

864
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 2: was mostly offense.

865
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: Well, TCU won their game because of two pick sixes,

866
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: so I would yeah anyway, which is good. By the way,

867
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: if you can win a game with two pick sixes,

868
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: that means you're a good team. SEC.

869
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: I got Georgia. Yeah, I think I took Bama, right,

870
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: I think I think he took Bama. Yeah, I took Bama.

871
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: That's my zag as well, just because there's a lot

872
00:43:55,520 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: to doubt and question about Alabama. But I think that defense,

873
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: especially after a couple of weeks, I think it's gonna

874
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: be scary good. And I think whoever starts at quarterback,

875
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: even if they're limited as compared to what they had

876
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: with Tua and Mac Jones and Bryce Young, I think

877
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: they'll still be a B plus.

878
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 3: I've got number one Michigan over Texas in whatever bowl game.

879
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: I've got number two Georgia over Florida State in the

880
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: other and I've got Michigan over Georgia in the national championship.

881
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: That's incredible. I don't think they have the winter wonders

882
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: to be a national champion, the winter wonders out wide,

883
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: the gravitational receivers that put the fear of life into

884
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators and safeties. I don't think they have that.

885
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: They don't have justin Ross. Okay, they don't have Devontae Smith. Okay,

886
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: what's your next number? Do you have a playoff pick?

887
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: A champion pick? I think I took Alabama, Georgia, Michigan,

888
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: and Oregon. I think that's what those were my playoff

889
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: picks when we did this a couple of weeks ago

890
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: for Bleacher Report. YEP, I would probably have Georgia three,

891
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: repeating over. I don't know Oregon or Michigan uh one, three, four, six, seven, eleven,

892
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: let's go eleven. Brent Key will be this year's Mike Alco.

893
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: Wow how about that?

894
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: And I know Hansking is likely starting a quarterback.

895
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: I just think there's going to be an energy to

896
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. I think the culture will be improved. I

897
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: think they're going to be more competent everywhere. I think

898
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: they're they've been built up. They've done enough in the

899
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: portal and the ACC is weird enough. And look, Georgia

900
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: Tech always hays Georgia to finish out the year. There's

901
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: a lot to not love about Georgia Tech's schedule, but

902
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: even so there's continuity. I think they returned their defensive coordinator,

903
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: by the way, Andrew Thacker I think is his name.

904
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: I always like digging doing medium dives on people. And

905
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: Andrew Thcker was with Jef Collins at Temple and played

906
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: at Furman and was a double major in polyscife whatever

907
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: and Spanish.

908
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what it is.

909
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: I love that the defensive coordinator for Georgia Tech is

910
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: likely fluent or semi fluent in Spanish, so that put

911
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: me over the top. It's a completely worthless and useless

912
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: reason to think Georgia Tech will have a nice year.

913
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: But I think they can make a bowl game and

914
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: will be this year's Wow. If Georgia Tech makes a

915
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: Bowl game, you're not kidding about bran keyt. I'm just

916
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm into energy, I'm into culture tie, I just am

917
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: and I think the fight they showed at the end

918
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: of last season I think can't be discounted. I'm in

919
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: on Georgia Tech as a cute story.

920
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: Which I in this case cute story.

921
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: Look in this case, I mean as a compliment. Maybe

922
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: cute is too demeaning a word. I think they are

923
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: going to be a quality story.

924
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 3: Okay, well so because they've been down for a while.

925
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 3: I'm not fully on board with the whole culture thing.

926
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: Culture is important, but Jeff Collins also built a pretty

927
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: interesting culture in a short period of time with the

928
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 3: way he steered into Atlanta and the recruiting and tried

929
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: to sell the program. I thought he did an okay job.

930
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 3: That's public culture. I don't care about that. I'm thinking

931
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: private all right. One six or fourteen?

932
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: Give me one a power not used to quarterback mediocrity,

933
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: will experience it Georgia, Ohio State, Alabama.

934
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 3: I think it's more likely that we see it at

935
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: Georgia Carson Beck likely. I like Carson Beck a lot too,

936
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: as do I. I really like Carson Beck, and I

937
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: think he's going to be good if I am scoring those, though,

938
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: the one that I'm more likely to score is probably

939
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: Carson Beck and Georgia. And even if he is mediocre,

940
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: they could still probably keep him in there and get

941
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: away with it.

942
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

943
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: I think they're so good otherwise on that offense that

944
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: even if he's dropping back and throwing ten times a

945
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 3: game the brock Bawards on short underneath stuff, or if

946
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: he's handing the ball off forty times a game like

947
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: Mike Bobo has played that style of football and he's

948
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: won and scored a lot before. So you might be right,

949
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: and it may not matter if George is the answer.

950
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 2: Okay.

951
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: The reason why I think George is the answer is

952
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: even though they are the unquestioned top of the sport

953
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: right now, it's not that long ago that Kirby Smart

954
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 1: had kind of serious issues managing quarterbacks, be it from injury,

955
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: be it like sets and Bennett, JD. Daniels, Jake from

956
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: Over doesn't fields like it's It's part of Kirby Smart's

957
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: story that he has never really managed has hasn't always

958
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: managed a quarterback room properly. And so that's why I

959
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: think the answer is there. Even though I think we're

960
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: both in agreement that Carson Beck should be very good,

961
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: let's go with number six. Miszoo will have a fun,

962
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: competent offense. Oh how about that spice, Todd is.

963
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: That's time medium right there?

964
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: This is sort of upon further reflection, there is something

965
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: about Miszoo. I love Brady Cook, but I like that

966
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: they made a change a coordinator. I kind of like

967
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: adding fresno spice to things in Kirby Moore. Well, they

968
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: need an identity, they need an identity, they need an identity.

969
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: And I don't know if bringing Kirby Moore down is

970
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: going to help them do that or not, but that

971
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: is that is like the two things that have been missing.

972
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: And I've said this time and again about Missoo. We've

973
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: talked about Missoo about four or five times now in

974
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: the preseason. The two things that have been missing on

975
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: the Miszoo front have been high school recruiting. Over the

976
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: long haul, high school recruiting has not been where it

977
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: needs to be. Obviously, they got a pretty big pick

978
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: up this week when they got the number one defensive

979
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: lineman in the class of twenty twenty four. Yeah, so

980
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: that's a big deal and I think there are probably

981
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: gonna be other guys that follow him to Columbia.

982
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 2: That was a big get for Eli.

983
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 3: My hunch is that maybe they can solve that side

984
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: that they just hadn't yet. The second thing, and almost

985
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: the more puzzling thing, is that they have I've not

986
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: had an identity on offense and it really is confound

987
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: and given the fact that Eli Drinkuinz came over and

988
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: was seen as a bit of an offense out of

989
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 3: the ball, yeah, that was his claim to fame. So yeah,

990
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: if they can sort that out, maybe taking some of

991
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 3: the play calling, some of the offensive duties away from

992
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 3: me like that, but will help that offense thrive a

993
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 3: little bit more.

994
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: Give it the identity that it needs. But they just

995
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: have not had that.

996
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: They've got playmaker as a receiver, the Oees Luther Burden.

997
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: They brought in what Nathaniel Pete from the West Coast

998
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: I just I think they are interesting enough pieces. At Miszoo,

999
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a fun, competent offense, all right, seven

1000
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: four or are I already did four? Seven three? Or okay,

1001
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: we've got three seven fourteen.

1002
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: Lucky number seven.

1003
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 1: Year two will be Brian Kelly's quarterback issue year at LSC.

1004
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: And I say that because of Jayden Daniel's injury history,

1005
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: Garrett nuss Meyer's ceiling bombing it down the field as

1006
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: like a twenty twenty three who is doing that for

1007
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: Penn State, Trace McSorley early, Trace mcsory just bombing it

1008
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: down the field against Wisconsin in the Big Ten championship games.

1009
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: That there is some of that to Garrett nus Meyer.

1010
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: He's got a big arm, loves going downfield. Jane Daniels

1011
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: a little bit more conservative. Let's say Jade and Daniels

1012
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: twist his ankle early on. Garrett nus Meyer comes in.

1013
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: It looks really good. Oh and then there's that question

1014
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: in week eight or something. You know, I have been

1015
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: about a year or two off on a lot of these.

1016
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: You're a year early, That's all I was saying.

1017
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: I'm a year early on a lot of the stuff

1018
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: that I've put out there. Yeah, and that's been a

1019
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: continued trend over the last fifteen years. I am not

1020
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: rooting for that to happen, but I will tell you this,

1021
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 3: Brian Kelly does not know how to handle a quarterback controversy.

1022
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 3: He really doesn't. Yeah, he really doesn't. And I don't

1023
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 3: even know if that's a character flaw for everything that's

1024
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: been said about this, For everything that's been said about

1025
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 3: this guy, Yeah, as like this cold blooded coach who's

1026
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: willing to move on a moment's notice and show up

1027
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 3: and tell the team for five minutes and then hop

1028
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: in the private jet and start doing y'all on the

1029
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: basketball court. All that's been said about how he is

1030
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: cold and calculated and somebody who is not authentic. I

1031
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,479
Speaker 3: think he has a hard time. I think he falls

1032
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 3: in love with all his quarterbacks and I don't think

1033
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 3: he's going to know what to do if that happens.

1034
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: The counterpoint is it will be really tough. Now two

1035
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: good quarterbacks, right is the counterpoint? Great great position to

1036
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 3: be in.

1037
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1038
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: The counterpoint whereas we're not talking about Ian Book versus whoever.

1039
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: The counterpoint is when you've got Jayden Daniels Garrett nus Meyer.

1040
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: That's a pretty good spot to be in. But I

1041
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: like that prediction. That is time medium.

1042
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: That was a little bit medium spice.

1043
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's time medium. Yeah.

1044
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: I don't think it's because, like, clearly Jayden Daniels is

1045
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: the guy right now, Clearly he is. But I'm just

1046
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: saying there could be a window that has opened, right

1047
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 1: there could be a little bit of a draft coming through.

1048
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: I like that. That's good. What do I got?

1049
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: Three three, fourteen are the college football specific ones. Let's

1050
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: do three three. It will be Mac Brown's final season.

1051
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: It will also be the final year of another another

1052
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: ish because Mac Brown's only been there for a few years,

1053
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: but one of the super tenured guys, so that's Kyle Whittingham,

1054
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: Mike Dundee, Kirk Ferrence.

1055
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: I could see it. I could see it with Mac.

1056
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: You see it. I think I see it with Mac. Yeah,

1057
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: when you get when you get the coaches complaining about

1058
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: college football these days, which he has, like we've got

1059
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: all sorts of offers offering hundreds of thousand dollars for

1060
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: our players. I don't know, he's in his early seventies.

1061
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: I know he loves it in North Carolina, I don't

1062
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: think the game has passed him by. I think what

1063
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: the reality of the game is right now has to

1064
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: be super frustrating for him, and I just don't see

1065
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: it with what North Carolina's defense will probably look like that,

1066
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's going to be a fun

1067
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: time coaching North Carolina this year.

1068
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: Drake mayil be fun as hell. Of course, Drake mayol

1069
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: be fun as hell.

1070
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 3: And I don't even want to play the losing effort

1071
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 3: because I think North Carolina will be fine. I think

1072
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: it will be very much Drake may against his own

1073
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 3: defense though, much like Caleb Williams versus his own defense.

1074
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: Like I said when I did the USC preview, yeah,

1075
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 3: he's constantly going to have to outscore his own defenses

1076
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 3: in aptitude. Bear in mind, North Carolina lost a lot

1077
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 3: in the secondary, lost a lot in general on their defense,

1078
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: but so much in the secondary with guys transferring out,

1079
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: I just I don't see new names stepping in and

1080
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 3: being any better. Like the story with North Carolina has

1081
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 3: been for a while that they've got a lot of talent,

1082
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 3: especially on defend. They've got talent, They've recruited talent, they

1083
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 3: just have not found a way to develop that talent.

1084
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 3: I don't know how new names in this case mean

1085
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: a different outcome. It's a coaching thing at this point.

1086
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 3: So that's an interesting take. I could see, I really could.

1087
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: And of those three winning him is interesting because you

1088
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: could see be like, look, I'm so proud of what

1089
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: I've accomplished and what we've all accomplished here in Salt

1090
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: Lake City. But with the team joining a new conference,

1091
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: it felt like the right time to give a new name,

1092
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: a new face, a fresh start in this job. It's

1093
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: just because you heard whispers about him recently. Obviously, a

1094
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: crazy emotional couple of years in Salt Lake City, with

1095
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: the roster and the tragedies there, it just has to

1096
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: be emotionally exhausting, and he's done such an incredible job there.

1097
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, one of those three names. Obviously, with all

1098
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: the nepotism stuff with Brian Farrence and a new ad

1099
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: at Iowa, that doesn't seem like a take. We'll see

1100
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: what happens with Oklahoma stated down here last year, but

1101
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: certainly Mike Gundy has had as much success as ninety

1102
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: percent of the coaches who've come through the sport over

1103
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years, But yeah, that was my take there.

1104
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: Number fourteen, Charles huff is getting a new job. Yeah,

1105
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: in a good way. With what he did at Marshall.

1106
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: Obviously beating Notre Dame early on, I haven't mentioned it lately,

1107
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: but finish which is the season quite strong, beating app State,

1108
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: beating Yukon in the bowl game.

1109
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 2: I like Charles Soff.

1110
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: I just think his reputation is going to be. I

1111
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: don't know to what heights he ascends as a head coach,

1112
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: but I think if they win, you know, eight nine

1113
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 1: games at Marshall, he's just a young up and comer

1114
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: that he's just going to get, you know, especially with

1115
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: you know, a turbulent acc.

1116
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: You know, in that region. I think he's going to

1117
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: be a big name come Thanksgiving time. Three other.

1118
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,959
Speaker 3: Notables here on the last side. We venture a little

1119
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: bit into Fantasy Things territory at times with these predictions.

1120
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: I would draft if we were doing.

1121
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 3: Fantasy Things live, which we're not doing this year, I

1122
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 3: would draft as my first pick the Marcus Freeman Jared Parker.

1123
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 3: They used to carpool to work together when they both

1124
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: were at Purdue. That's good, I'm telling you right now.

1125
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 3: The announcers are going to get so much mileage out

1126
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 3: of that friendship that you're going to be.

1127
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: Sick of it and get like one of those weird

1128
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: graphics where it's like pictures that are in motion that

1129
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: they're like bobbing in the same car. Is what is

1130
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 1: to you on that note, tie, what is the most

1131
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: alluring announcer narrative that could possibly exist? Right, so you

1132
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: have carpooling, you could have like the the old Texas roommate,

1133
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: the Colt McCoy Jordan Shipley roommate thing. You do what

1134
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: is the single most alluring thing that no announcer could

1135
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: possibly pass up in learning a fun fact about a

1136
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: coach or a quarterback or somebody that like is going

1137
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: to be a talking point during a game.

1138
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it's any type of legacy situation, any type

1139
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: of any type of legacy situation with Marcus Freeman didn't

1140
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 3: go to Notre Dame, but his great great grandfather did.

1141
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: Or he's got a cousin twice removed who was a

1142
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: psychology major at Notre Dame. Anytime there is that connective

1143
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: tissue from one guy that you didn't know about to

1144
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 3: his current or another job. The announcers love that stuff.

1145
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: They can't help it.

1146
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean you have the Laura Quinn stuff

1147
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: where that's just any time, but that's those two teams

1148
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: playing specifically, so that got a lot of air. I

1149
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: think the number one unavoidable Just every announcer is seduced.

1150
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: If you have a situation and it's already happened, I

1151
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: don't know if it could happen, and maybe it is happening.

1152
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: There's a lot of qualifiers here. If you have a

1153
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: Zach Thomas Jason Taylor situation, I think Jason Taylor. I'm

1154
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: trying to get this right. I think Jason Taylor married

1155
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: Zach Thomas's sister. Yeah, and they were on the same defense,

1156
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: and I want to say it ended badly. I think

1157
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: there's lawsuit stuff and so then it was ex brother

1158
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: in law in the same locker room. But if you

1159
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: had a coach marrying a coordinator sister vice versa, or

1160
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: even player marrying a teammates or anything in that universe, yeah,

1161
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: I think you're twelve out of twelve weeks. Twelve out

1162
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: of twelve weeks. If it's an eye on TV game,

1163
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: if it's a NS spin the old game, like I

1164
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: believe what who's playing the exclusive Spanish matchup Presno State.

1165
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: I think to start the year, no matter who it is,

1166
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: so that would give you a wife, and I suppose

1167
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: it would be.

1168
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: One hundred percent likelihood. Yeah, I mean.

1169
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: The other thing I think in a twenty twenty three

1170
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 3: season is going to be references to the new look

1171
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 3: of college football in twenty twenty four.

1172
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: Yes, looking ahead to twenty four.

1173
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 3: Whether it's the conferences in the way that they've realigned,

1174
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 3: whether it's the new playoff system, it's going to be irresistible.

1175
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 3: It's it is the subject that's on the tip of

1176
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 3: everybody's tongue. We're kind of sick of talking about it

1177
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 3: at this point.

1178
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: How many If Game Day has six country artists as

1179
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: guest pickers, how many will you heard of or could

1180
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: pick like out of a lineup?

1181
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: Could pick out of a lineup?

1182
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 3: Probably zero out of six brought I think I could

1183
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 3: go one, No chance, no, because.

1184
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: One of them is gonna be Kenny Chesney. I know,

1185
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: I vaguely know what Kenny Chesney looks like. Yeah, I'm

1186
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: not sure I could pick Kenny Chesney out of a lineup.

1187
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: He's just a ball dude. Cowboy hat. I didn't even know.

1188
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: I just really I had no idea. That's wild Okay.

1189
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: Was the guy he did the nationwide commercials. That's the

1190
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: guy I know.

1191
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: Brad Paisley.

1192
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he I could pick him out, but I don't

1193
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 3: know what his college football aptitude is.

1194
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: Brad Paisley, I believe married to the bride of father

1195
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: of the bride.

1196
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: There's a fun fact. That's a fun facts. That's all

1197
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: I know about him. Really.

1198
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: I would also draft any reference on the broadcast to

1199
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 3: your point of Michigan's off season mantra, which is beat Georgia.

1200
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: All right, that they added to beat Georgia period in

1201
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: addition to the beat Ohio period.

1202
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, beat Georgia.

1203
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 3: I will take the over on the Brian Farrence twenty

1204
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 3: five points per game thing.

1205
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: Because of the Farence fluff ups, the parents fluff up.

1206
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 3: I think we need to pay attention to the Farence

1207
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 3: fluff ups and take over in those IOWA games when

1208
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 3: they're playing and nobody and they need to drive up

1209
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 3: the point total so that he can stay around for

1210
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 3: next season.

1211
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: I wonder if it was said like big ten average

1212
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: twenty five again, No, it wasn't. It was across the board,

1213
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: across they do. It is meaningful for Iowa to stop

1214
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: Iowa State if they can sihawk game. Okay, all right,

1215
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: And my final prediction here, and I hate to end

1216
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: on a sour note, but it's just the way this

1217
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: worked out. I've got Neil Brown as the first coach

1218
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: getting fired, and maybe after week three with the backyard brawl.

1219
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how much they owe him. I don't

1220
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: know about that. I haven't thought about that, So I'm

1221
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: not going to make a prediction there. I have two

1222
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: positive things to end it on. Let's do it on

1223
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: a high note. Cleansers number fifteen ty will shoot a

1224
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: tournament winning seventy seven in Houston, and it will be

1225
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: captured in four K. Who's in the Solidverbal Invitational? But

1226
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: we're having it.

1227
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 3: You're referring to the Soliverbal Golf Invitational. Yes, is this

1228
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 3: something you think we can pull off?

1229
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why not?

1230
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 3: I did send tweets out about a week ago to

1231
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 3: Bud Elliott.

1232
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be nice the course. No, No,

1233
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: you can find a muni somewhere in Houston.

1234
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 3: I sent a tweet out to Bud and by extension,

1235
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 3: Tom Fornelli from our friends over our cover three in CBS,

1236
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 3: and both of them are in Nicole Auerback from the

1237
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 3: Athletic Ups NBC Sports insider Nicole ower Back.

1238
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: She responded that she'd be in.

1239
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if Richard will be around from split Zone,

1240
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 3: but if he's around, he and I have been trying

1241
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: to get together all summer.

1242
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 2: To Golf Bruce Golf's Brucevelp Bruce Golf's Yeah, so we

1243
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: can find this.

1244
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Soliverbal College Football Pot Casting Golf Invitational. Don't

1245
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 3: count the syllables, but hopefully enough star power on hand

1246
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 3: that we can make that happen.

1247
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: Seventy seven seventy seven. I'm gonna have to hit the.

1248
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: Sim here because it's going to get cold and I'll

1249
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 3: probably be out of form.

1250
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: That's true.

1251
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 2: At that point.

1252
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: I'll give you, I mean, i'll give you court like

1253
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: time on the range beforehand. I'm not going to ask

1254
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: you to go right out to the first t.

1255
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: I'll figure it out. I'll figure it out.

1256
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 3: I'll stay I'll stay loose with like simulators and stuff

1257
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: around here in the meantime.

1258
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: But okay, final prediction, also in Houston, Van Rubinstein Part

1259
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 1: two might become so big that we'll need to rent

1260
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: a short bus. That's ultimately my dream that we have

1261
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: to hire a short bus complete with driver and that

1262
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: I get the pak.

1263
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: That would be fun.

1264
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: We did next place we're going to as an Alpas

1265
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: store specialty spot.

1266
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 3: We joked about this on one of the brunets that

1267
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 3: we kid a riverbowlers dot com. It is one hundred

1268
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: percent true that after the last Van Rubinstein that we did,

1269
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 3: we honest to goodness, we're eating at some place the

1270
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 3: next day and look to see if we could rent

1271
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 3: the zero gravity.

1272
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true plane.

1273
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, to do the preview in zero gravity and it

1274
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: costs like twenty thousand, twenty thousand bucks twenty k per.

1275
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 3: I think it was a kper the place that we

1276
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 3: found on Google.

1277
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I found like a real cheap option

1278
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: for like twelve k. But I don't know if that's

1279
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: an excuse to go cheap.

1280
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: Do you want to do the cheap option with that?

1281
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1282
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what's involved.

1283
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: Ask your brother what's involved with zero gravity? Well, we

1284
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: could you know what we could also try because it's Houston.

1285
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: I wonder if we could get access to like the

1286
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: astronaut training where you do like the super fast spins

1287
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: in every day it's the zero gravity training rather than

1288
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: actually going zero gravity, and everybody's just hurling like we're

1289
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: on the sandlot as we're predicting, you know, Georgia Alabama

1290
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: in the National Championship. That would be fun.

1291
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: We we we.

1292
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 3: Are the only show that can pull off the stunt preview.

1293
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah and I yeah, it's a near certainty that we're

1294
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 3: going to Marry Wasserman puking up carn Yeah, shout out

1295
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 3: Ari Wasserman. But he would be the one to puke

1296
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 3: up the Carney Dos zero gravity training spinner. We are

1297
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 3: willing to take your suggestions at burbot gmail dot com

1298
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 3: for what our stunt previews should be yep in advance

1299
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 3: of this year's National Championship. But right now, the leading

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Speaker 3: contender I think is probably Van Rubenstein Part two. Though

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Speaker 3: we've had many many ideas bouncing around out space.

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Speaker 1: Tasos are such a great crawl food now and Houston

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Speaker 1: has great tacos, so I don't know, we'll see, we'll

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Speaker 1: figure it out.

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Speaker 2: you listen to this.

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Speaker 3: Follow on a social media watch along on YouTube, smash

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Speaker 3: the subscribe button as a kid like to say, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: those are our predictions for the twenty twenty three college

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Speaker 3: football season. For that guy over there, my good friend

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Speaker 3: Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildon Brandt.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you all soon, I meantimes, stay solid, peace,