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Speaker 1: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 2: John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 5: Let's hear that both.

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Speaker 6: Next big job there Cooktuffian Brek bears out.

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Speaker 4: Rock.

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Speaker 1: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: That's all.

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Speaker 7: Oh quick, turn Ken Flow during this pfl off season's

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Speaker 7: got all the time in the world for us.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in, I'm wanting to say.

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Speaker 7: January twenty fourth, twenty twenty four, it is episode four

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Speaker 7: sixty two of the.

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Speaker 2: Antik Imploring Podcast.

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Speaker 7: Jason Anakin studio with me today, Ken full live in Charlotte,

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Speaker 7: North Carolina. Dare you to try to break into his house?

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Speaker 7: But joining us off the top of the show today

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Speaker 7: is the top rank UFC welterweight contender, our dear friend Balal,

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Speaker 7: remember the name Muhammad.

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Speaker 2: Raving the cold in Chicago, Illinois.

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Speaker 7: So we were saying during our little pre interview there

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Speaker 7: you can't drive Tesla's in the cold.

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Speaker 2: Bellow, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, uh, it was going around at Tesla's in Chicago.

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Speaker 8: Were going like you lose, like fifty percent of your

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Speaker 8: power because it's so cold out here. And then all

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Speaker 8: the turbo chargers then all I got damaged. So then

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Speaker 8: there is like fifty Tesla cars in front of turbo chargers,

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Speaker 8: all like shut down, so like you had to get

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Speaker 8: your car towed, and a lot of them were happening

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Speaker 8: in the hood, so like people will leave the car

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Speaker 8: there for the next day. The next day you go

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Speaker 8: there and the car is like broken into smashed.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy. For the last last week was terrible.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was great to see when Toronto.

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Speaker 7: You were one of the few people I think who

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Speaker 7: was not complaining about the cold. A lot of things

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Speaker 7: we want to get in to with you today, but

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Speaker 7: you have been omnipresent at UFC live events, right You

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Speaker 7: and Jason have been doing and remember the show, and

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Speaker 7: doing work for UFC Fight Pass. And I'm not sure

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Speaker 7: you're going to answer this question with complete veracity. But

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Speaker 7: Domina Cruz said to me once I started traveling with

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Speaker 7: Jay that I was going to get annoyed by him

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Speaker 7: and progressively more sick of him.

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Speaker 2: And I said, he's my twin brother. Like that's not

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Speaker 2: going to happen.

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Speaker 7: But lo and behold Cruz was right, So, to what

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Speaker 7: extent are you also sick of Jason at this point

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Speaker 7: in time?

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Speaker 3: Dude, I want to go more with her. I'm like

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Speaker 3: falling in love though, like man, I want to be

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Speaker 3: a part of the family.

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Speaker 7: That well, you're definitely family, and I know a lot

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Speaker 7: of us were very surprised. I are not surprised, i

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Speaker 7: should say, but very excited when we were there in

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Speaker 7: Toronto to see Dana White do some media on Friday,

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Speaker 7: and he did say at least insinuated that he was

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Speaker 7: going to announce the date for your title fight against

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Speaker 7: Leon Rocky Edwards at some point this week.

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Speaker 2: So we are sitting here on Wednesday morning.

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Speaker 7: I'd imagine that crossed your beak while you were in

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Speaker 7: Toronto and was welcome news to some extent.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Yeah, was kind of like a sense of relief.

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Speaker 8: It was like, hi, finally, because you know there's you're

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Speaker 8: promised it. And then it was like everybody's going back

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Speaker 8: and forth, like when he's gonna say something, he's gonna

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Speaker 8: say something. Then he finally said it, like I'm waiting

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Speaker 8: for a date. I'm gonna announce a day this week.

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Speaker 8: Because every time he says, hey, I'm gonna get to announce

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Speaker 8: a big fight on Instagram in a couple of days

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Speaker 8: and a couple of hours. Every text I get is

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Speaker 8: from a family member or friend, hey's it gonna be you,

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Speaker 8: It's it gonna be you, It's gonna be you, And

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Speaker 8: you get like annoyed by it, because like, bro, if

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Speaker 8: I know it, you're gonna know it. And especially when

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Speaker 8: it's like my brothers or something, I'm like, bro, you

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Speaker 2: If I have a fight right now and below.

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Speaker 6: As far as timing for you, what would be the

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Speaker 6: ideal UFC card to be on?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, for me, any one of these cars is ideal.

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Speaker 8: Like I'm training NonStop one hundred percent, and you know

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Speaker 8: three hundred obviously would be right after Ramadan. But like

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Speaker 8: I fought during Ramadan before, I've trained during Rabadan, and

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Speaker 8: I think that it's only gonna make me that much better.

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Speaker 8: It's only gonna make me make my story that much greater,

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Speaker 8: right because I've been doubted my whole career. I've been

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Speaker 8: doubted everything I've done, all the people they put as

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Speaker 8: make me that I'm.

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Speaker 6: A sweeter And that said, you know, I guess when

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Speaker 6: people are looking at this fight, you know, are should

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Speaker 6: they be looking at it like a continuation of that

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Speaker 6: last fight or what is what is going to be different?

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Speaker 6: And how much of an advantage was it for you

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Speaker 6: that you got to spend some time in the cage

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Speaker 8: Honestly, I don't even really look at that last light

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Speaker 8: as anything. It was literally four years ago. I was

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Speaker 8: a whole different fighter, and the only thing you really

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Speaker 8: could tell from each other is the strength, and you

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Speaker 8: can feel your hem and you know, I felt a

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Speaker 3: I felt you could say, oh I thought distance, speed, yetta.

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Speaker 3: But it's like a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 8: Changes in four years, the guys that I fought since then,

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Speaker 8: I've had to go through so many different styles of

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Speaker 8: So I think now when he goes in there with me,

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Speaker 8: it's gonna be a whole different fighter, a whole different person.

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Speaker 8: So if he's looking at that fight like, oh man,

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Speaker 8: you know it's gonna be continuation, He's gonna be in

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Speaker 8: for a root awakeness.

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Speaker 7: Well, now remember the name Muhammad with us here on

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Speaker 7: the Anakin Florian podcast. Was there ever a point in

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Speaker 7: time and again until you get the contract? Maybe I

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Speaker 7: should pause at saying this, but was there ever a

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Speaker 7: pass me for someone like shop Cott, rock Monov or

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Speaker 7: you have or have you always been convicted in what

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Speaker 7: Dana said to guarantee after the Gilbert Burns win that

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Speaker 7: the promotion would ultimately do right by you.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I've definitely been on edge one hundred percent

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Speaker 8: that interview from Dana, people are still messaging congrats.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, congrat can you relate me when you

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Speaker 3: see a poster with my name on it?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 8: Because I've had to go through so many hurdles, but

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Speaker 8: you know, I'm staying in touch with Dana.

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Speaker 3: I've been touching Dana. Hey, how's your morning?

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Speaker 4: Data?

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Speaker 3: You feel like edge, just to see if there's any

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Speaker 3: who are you again?

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Speaker 2: Who is this?

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Speaker 3: What do you number? But none of that. So like

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Speaker 3: I'm staying positive with it.

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Speaker 8: I'm putting it to there and yeah, I for sure

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Speaker 7: So when we sat down in our fighter meeting with

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Speaker 7: Mobsar I of Loya before he fought Arnold Allen, a

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Speaker 7: lot of what we talked about was Ramadan, and you

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Speaker 7: guys both competed on that same show. Right after Ramadan,

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Speaker 7: you fought Gilbert Burns and he fought Diego Lopez on

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Speaker 7: of the challenges but also some of the upside, for

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Speaker 7: the spiritual advantage that it gives you. But I'm on

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Speaker 7: a private text threat with Joe Rogan and Daniel Cormier,

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Speaker 7: and I think all of us find it hard to

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Speaker 7: believe that April thirteenth would be better than say, June first, right,

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Speaker 7: Ramadan ends on April ninth, during fight week, and I'm

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Speaker 7: not necessarily asking you to fall on one side or

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Speaker 2: But for those who would suggest that they would.

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Speaker 7: Rather see Belam Muhammad with a fully nourished or at

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Speaker 7: is it fair to say that if you were the

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Speaker 7: champion choosing that it's less ideal to fight him with

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Speaker 7: an entire training camp spent during Ramadan than it would

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Speaker 7: be to face him in a more normal climate in June.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm the champ, I'm leon. I'm like, yo, let's

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Speaker 8: do it Rabadon. Let's try to get it the week

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Speaker 8: of or like change a date or something like that. Right,

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Speaker 8: of course I would want that, But like I said,

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Speaker 8: I'd gone through so many camps during Ramadan. I've done camps.

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Speaker 8: I'm always training non stab no matter what. And like

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Speaker 8: the spiritual upside of it, it changes you in many

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Speaker 8: me knowing that he's not putting it body through what

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Speaker 8: And that's the that's the difference. Because everybody knows how

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Speaker 8: to train. Everybody does trans conditioning, everybody does wrestling, everyone

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Speaker 3: When you're at the top five, it's these little.

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Speaker 8: Game of bench and stuff, and I think ninety percent

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Speaker 7: And the reason the cameras on me is because I

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Speaker 7: allows a man of destiny. Whatever the terms may be.

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Speaker 7: If it's UFC three hundred after Ramadan, good right, Bully,

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Speaker 7: bring it right, bring it, bring it whatever it may

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Speaker 7: be for you. We've had a lot of conversations about this,

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Speaker 7: and it's gonna be what it's gonna be, whether it's

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Speaker 7: a banged up foot going into Gilbert Burns, whatever, it's

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be.

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Speaker 7: So if it's UFC three hundred in my conversation, will bellow, okay,

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Speaker 7: we'll find me advantage in that. And certainly if it's

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Speaker 7: in July or whatever it is and new, whatever the

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Speaker 3: Just want to want to possess.

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Speaker 8: It's like for myself, it's like you said, I've gone

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Speaker 8: through everything, right, I've had my highest highs and I'm

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Speaker 8: having my lowest lows, and it was always all right,

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Speaker 8: this is God's plan, this is God's reason for it,

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Speaker 8: this is why this happened.

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Speaker 3: So if it is during Robinin, what is that gonna do.

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Speaker 8: It's gonna bring more attention to myself training during Rabadin,

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Speaker 8: It's gonna be more attention to the religion, me explaining

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Speaker 3: Am I really this? Or am I really that? But

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I for sure gave him the DDP and rewatching it.

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Speaker 3: That's all he does is People are like, wait, what

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Speaker 8: What is what's happening. He's like, no, he does this

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Speaker 3: It was all right, let me just jab you. Let

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Speaker 8: He doesn't have a good jab, but Duplexes was going

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Speaker 3: The boys, like Yo, which one's better? This one?

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Speaker 3: Me, that's my brother, it's John. So I was literally

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Speaker 7: But yeah, that would have been great, but you had

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Speaker 2: Hopefully the news breaks this week. Very gracious of.

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Speaker 7: You to join us for a quarter of an hour,

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Speaker 7: my man, train well, stay healthy and uh can't wait

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Speaker 2: That news wire. Edwards v. Muhammad Io whenever that may be, brother.

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Speaker 3: My brother, thank you both, see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Jason.

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Speaker 7: All right, brother, all right, there he is blow Remember

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Speaker 7: Flall on UFC to ninety seven over the course of

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Speaker 7: the next forty five minutes or so. We're also scheduled

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Speaker 7: to be joined by Drakes Duplessi's manager, Danny Rubinstein. It

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Speaker 7: is his birthday today, and we will also be joined

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Speaker 7: by Sean Stricklan's chief corner Eric Nixon towards the end

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Speaker 7: of the program. But I want to get into a

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Speaker 7: few headlines, Kenfloy, if I could so. Tom Aspinall is

448
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Speaker 7: the UFC's interim heavyweight Champion, and these are some tweets

449
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Speaker 7: from him about eighteen hours ago. Believe it or not,

450
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Speaker 7: I respect John Jones and everything he has done so impressive.

451
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Speaker 7: I wish him all the best in his recovery and

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Speaker 7: return against step A Miachich.

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Speaker 2: While we are talking about Steve A.

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Speaker 7: Miacich, my manager was contacted by the UFC asking if

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Speaker 7: I'd like to fight him on April thirteenth. I of

456
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Speaker 7: course accepted. A little later, we were told that Steve A.

457
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Speaker 7: Does not want to fight me. He is only interested

458
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Speaker 7: in fighting John Jones. On that note, I will stop crying,

459
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Speaker 7: accepted inc happen, and enjoy the fight that me and

460
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Speaker 7: all the other fans want to see Legend versus Legend

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Speaker 7: for the heavyweight title.

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Speaker 2: Maximum respect, guys.

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Speaker 7: Yay, So, Kenny, A lot of that is sort of

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Speaker 7: said with sarcasm and tongue in cheek. I really feel

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Speaker 7: for Tom Aspinall in this situation because he's the interim champion,

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Speaker 7: and I think hen and Brown might be the only

467
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Speaker 7: guy who's ever had an interim championship defense in the UFC.

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Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but.

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Speaker 7: We all knew that the waters were going to be

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Speaker 7: muddy when John Jones didn't vacate the title. I understand

471
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Speaker 7: the promotion is not going to strip the consensus greatest

472
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Speaker 7: of all time, but this problem sort of manifested itself.

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Speaker 2: Kenny.

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Speaker 7: You have an interim champion, You have John Jones who

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Speaker 7: may not fight until fourth quarter twenty.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four, and then you have step A who.

477
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Speaker 7: Hasn't fought in years, only wanting to fight John Jones.

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Speaker 7: If your tom asminal Ken Flow is the UFC's interim

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Speaker 7: heavyweight champion, Like, what the fuck are you supposed to do?

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's trying to get a fight, he's trying

481
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Speaker 6: his best. Clearly, he's in that zone where some of

482
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Speaker 6: the legends and they are legends. Aspinall not a legend yet,

483
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Speaker 6: so we should definitely make that distinction. However, you know,

484
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Speaker 6: he's trying to fight Stepe, He's trying to fight John Jones.

485
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Speaker 6: He's trying to make these things happen, and those guys

486
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Speaker 6: don't think he's worth the risk.

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Speaker 2: They just don't that, you know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they much prefer another go against another guy

489
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Speaker 6: who is an established legend and be able to.

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Speaker 2: Make a lot of money in that process.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not sure Aspinall is clicking all of those boxes.

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Speaker 6: It's tough, and listen, I think that as an organization,

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Speaker 6: you're gonna have certain champions hold on to those belts

494
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Speaker 6: a little bit longer than others, depending on what their

495
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Speaker 6: names are, right, I mean, that's just it's gonna be

496
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Speaker 6: better business for them. So if it's John Jones and

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Speaker 6: he happens to be out for a little while, then

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Speaker 6: I'm going to have them hold onto his belt a

499
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Speaker 6: little bit longer. If DDP happens again. Injured, it isn't

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Speaker 6: able to fight in the next year or more. They're

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Speaker 6: probably stripping of I mean, let's be honest, But so

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Speaker 6: I think that that plays a part. So it's it

503
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Speaker 6: is a very tricky situation for Tom right now. And

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: So Stepe Miachich was born August nineteenth, nineteen eighty two.

506
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Speaker 7: He'll be forty two in August. He has not competed

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Speaker 7: since he was thirty eight years of age. And I

508
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Speaker 7: understand for John Jones's legacy that this Stepe fight is

509
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Speaker 7: far more valuable than a Tom Aspinall fight. And I

510
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Speaker 7: do think that history is not really going to care

511
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Speaker 7: that Stepe hadn't fought in four years and that he

512
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Speaker 7: was forty two years of age when John Jones fights him. Kenny,

513
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Speaker 7: but like, it's not like he's fighting a prime Steepe.

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Speaker 7: And even though Stepe could certainly turn back the clock here,

515
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Speaker 7: Like I understand the promotional value of Jones versus Miatchiic,

516
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Speaker 7: but I don't know, man, I really feel for Tom

517
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Speaker 7: aspital I think he's going to defend the Inner Heavyweight

518
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Speaker 7: Championship against somebody like Jaijilta Almeato, which seems a little

519
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Speaker 7: bit silly. And then if you're Tom Aspinall and Jay,

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you have any comments on this,

521
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Speaker 7: but then if you're Tom Aspinall, you have to weigh

522
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Speaker 7: the risk, right because if Tommy Aspinall wants to bide

523
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Speaker 7: his time and fight the winner of John Jones and

524
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Speaker 7: steep A, he might sit for eighteen months and those

525
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Speaker 7: guys both might retire.

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Speaker 2: After they fight.

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Speaker 7: So the only advantage there would be that then Tom

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Speaker 7: Aspinall would be promoted to undisputed champion, and his title defense,

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Speaker 7: even against somebody like Male Eugenio, would be a defense

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Speaker 7: of the undisputed and not interim championship. But I don't know, man,

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Speaker 7: It's like Tom in my mind, has every right to

532
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Speaker 7: do what he has done to pursue that fight.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is, the betting line is going to

534
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Speaker 2: tell you who's the.

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Speaker 7: More prime heavyweight right now, like Tom Asmaal is gonna

536
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Speaker 7: be favored to beat step Ba. I don't care what

537
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Speaker 7: anybody said, no question about it. Well, from step A's standpoint,

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Speaker 7: I certainly UFC three hundred with pay per viewpoints is

539
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Speaker 7: certainly a good payday. You're not necessarily easy to quantify

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Speaker 7: what the payday would be versus John Jones later date.

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Speaker 7: But I don't know if John Jones is even necessarily

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Speaker 7: fighting again. Like there's so many variables. And if I'm

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Speaker 7: step A, I guess it's not about money. If I'm

544
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Speaker 7: step A, I pounce on that one more big one

545
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Speaker 7: because I think that payday on UFC three hundred probably

546
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Speaker 7: would approach whatever you're.

547
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Speaker 2: Getting with Jones.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's about money, think it's about legacy.

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Speaker 7: I think he thinks he can beat Jones. I'm not

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Speaker 7: sure Steve A likes that matchup against Tommy.

551
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and if he loses to tom he's the John

552
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Speaker 6: Jones fight is gone. He's got you know, he probably

553
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Speaker 6: sees this, this is one last chance.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's go for the king.

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Speaker 7: John Jones is going to fight again. I don't think that, uh,

556
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Speaker 7: that there's any question about that. I mean health as wealth.

557
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Speaker 7: He's got to get back and be healthy. I do

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Speaker 7: agree though that, Like I don't know like what the like.

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Speaker 7: Stepe A is not a pay per view point accruing champion,

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Speaker 7: So I don't know what the difference in payday is

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Speaker 7: for step A fighting tom aspinall versus John Jones, but

562
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Speaker 7: certainly for step A to beat John Jones would be

563
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Speaker 7: absolutely enormous. I wondered aloud why the betting line was

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Speaker 7: so wide. Steepe was like plus three thirty against John

565
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Speaker 7: Jones at some point in time, and most people that

566
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Speaker 7: I trust in the space are telling me that that

567
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Speaker 7: is properly priced. Steevebe is going to be an underdog

568
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Speaker 7: against both of these guys, but he'll be a bigger

569
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Speaker 7: underdog against John Jones. I just find it very interesting,

570
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Speaker 7: And you know, it seems like tom Asminhall is now

571
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Speaker 7: going to lay back in the cut and sort of

572
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Speaker 7: shut his mouth a little bit. But I just wanted

573
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Speaker 7: to hit on that a little bit because I really

574
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Speaker 7: do feel bad for Tom.

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Speaker 2: Let us transition.

576
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Speaker 7: If we could can flow to Kayla Harrison, whose next

577
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Speaker 7: fight you will not be calling under the PFL banner.

578
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Speaker 7: She has signed with the UFC and she will fight

579
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Speaker 7: Holly Holme at one hundred and thirty five pounds. And

580
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Speaker 7: if I know Kayla Harrison, I know she's gonna make weight,

581
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Speaker 7: however hard that may be a lot of the narrative

582
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Speaker 7: right now, Kenny is on the weight class and not

583
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Speaker 7: necessarily Kayla Harrison moving to the UFC, But your thoughts

584
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Speaker 7: on Kayleb moving over to the big show. She will

585
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Speaker 7: fight Holly Holme at one hundred and thirty five pounds

586
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Speaker 7: at UFC three hundred on April thirteen.

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Speaker 6: It's very exciting, and again I saw this as probably

588
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Speaker 6: an something that was inevitable. You know, she wants to

589
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Speaker 6: face the best that are out there, and you know,

590
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Speaker 6: especially at one hundred and thirty five pounds. PFL doesn't

591
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Speaker 6: have a one hundred and thirty five pound division, They don't

592
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Speaker 6: have the long standing names in the women's divisions that

593
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Speaker 6: the UFC has, and she wants to test herself and

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Speaker 6: I think she's entering a division that is a division

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Speaker 6: where I could see her dominating for a very long

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Speaker 6: time and becoming an even bigger star than she is now,

597
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Speaker 6: no question about it.

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Speaker 2: The big question mark for me is making one.

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Speaker 6: Hundred and thirty five pounds and having your full capabilities

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Speaker 6: to do what you typically do. Right, making that one

601
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Speaker 6: hundred and thirty five pounds weight class, or anytime you

602
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Speaker 6: go down a weight class or two, it's a game changer.

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Speaker 6: It's one thing to make the weight it's another thing.

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Speaker 6: To compete at that weight, so that's the only question

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Speaker 6: mark for me. But again, Kayla a true professional. I

606
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Speaker 6: know for her last fight that she had in the PFL,

607
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Speaker 6: she did go down a little bit in wait said

608
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Speaker 6: it was even easier than when she was making one

609
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Speaker 6: fifty five. She did it as a breeze, So I

610
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Speaker 6: think she has stepped up her game professionally with her

611
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Speaker 6: nutritionist and how she's eating and all that stuff. So

612
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Speaker 6: I think if there's someone who's going to do it

613
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Speaker 6: for the first time and do it correctly, it's probably

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Speaker 6: Kayla Harrison.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, she's disciplined, which I think goes without saying, and

616
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Speaker 7: she's only thirty three years of age Holly Holm forty two,

617
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Speaker 7: So there are definitely advantages in the fight and a

618
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Speaker 7: lot of people think it's a very.

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Speaker 2: Favorable matchup for Kayla Harrison.

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Speaker 7: I have often said that if Amanda NOONEZ is going

621
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Speaker 7: to come out of retirement, it's going to have to

622
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Speaker 7: be the right fight and the right fighter. And Kenny,

623
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Speaker 7: one name that you and I mentioned was Larissa Pacheco,

624
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Speaker 7: the only woman to beat Kayla Harrison in mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 7: Because Larissa can continue to build upon her legacy, and

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Speaker 7: were she to maybe come to the UFC in a

627
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Speaker 7: couple of years, I think that would be a fight

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Speaker 7: that would really peak the interest of Amanda Noonez. I

629
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Speaker 7: think the Kayla Harrison fight would peak the interest of

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Speaker 7: Amanda Noonez if Kayla Harrison can realize some success in

631
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Speaker 7: this one hundred and thirty five pound division.

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Speaker 2: But I think there are a lot of factors at play.

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Speaker 7: Certainly, the writing is on the wall for the UFC

634
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 7: women's featherweight division rip right. We have seen women who

635
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 7: have not even weighed in in the UFC at one

636
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 7: hundred and thirty five pounds who are now ranked in

637
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Speaker 7: the bandamweight division. So rest in peace, I would think

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Speaker 7: to the UFC women's featherweight division. And I think that's

639
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Speaker 7: part of the impetus for Kayla Harrison making her UFC

640
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Speaker 7: debut at bantam weight.

641
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Speaker 2: She's going to be a bandam weight in the UFC.

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Speaker 7: But this division took a big hit this weekend, and

643
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Speaker 7: we have some very nice things to say about Raquel

644
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Speaker 7: Pennington today. I'm so happy she's a world champion, right,

645
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Speaker 7: But that fight left a lot to be desired, and

646
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Speaker 7: it also put the spotlight on the bandamweight division because

647
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Speaker 7: other than juliannapenyet that top.

648
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Speaker 2: Fifteen leaves a lot to be desired.

649
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Speaker 7: There are a lot of fighters that you wouldn't consider

650
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Speaker 7: to be top fifteen fighters, never mind fringe contenders, and

651
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 7: they're ranked fighters right now. So I'm not sure, Kenny,

652
00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 7: if Kayla Harrison got a significant raise during this ufccen agociation,

653
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Speaker 7: but you gotta think that fight between her Cal Pennington

654
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 7: and Maida Buenos Silva certainly helped get expedite that Kayla

655
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Speaker 7: Harrison signing to the UFC, I would think maybe not

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Speaker 7: very aus.

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Speaker 6: Student observation as always, my friend, Yeah, I couldn't agree.

658
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Speaker 2: More that division.

659
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Speaker 6: Let's face it is right for the taking, right even

660
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 6: one hundred and eighty five pounds, And I think this

661
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 6: is what makes the hardcore fans so excited for me anyway,

662
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 6: it does, is the volatility in each division where we

663
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 6: could have three or four different names as middleweight champions,

664
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Speaker 6: guys like that. That's a legitimate possibility over the next

665
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 6: course of the year. And you could say that the

666
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 6: same thing at one hundred and thirty five pounds in

667
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 6: the women's division, it is ripe for the taking, but

668
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 6: it is ripe for someone to come in there and

669
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 6: take that throne and hold it for a very long

670
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Speaker 6: time and enter Kayla Harrison.

671
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Speaker 2: You know, it's making things very interesting here, you know.

672
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Speaker 7: And for me, Kayla she's a star, right, She is

673
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 7: an incredible human being. I've gotten to know her, probably

674
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 7: not as well as you, Kenny, but for me, I mean, John,

675
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 7: you alluded to it. The timing of this just unbelievable

676
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 7: from Kayla Sam.

677
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: Clearly fucking from clear throat.

678
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 7: There were, let me clear my time, times where we

679
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 7: wanted Kayla to come sooner, right and where there might

680
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 7: have been some big fights right at the time, and

681
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 7: in hindsight, looking back, this timing seems even better for her.

682
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Speaker 7: And yeah, we're gonna have some great things to say

683
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 7: about Rocky later, that's fine. But Kayla is a complete star.

684
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 7: She's a crazy good athlete, and I just think she's

685
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 7: gonna move the needle in this division in a way

686
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 7: that maybe hasn't been you know, noon As is gone. Well,

687
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 7: a lot of people think about she's Cachagi coming out

688
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 7: for three hundred not happening. So for me, I'm so

689
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 7: excited to see Kayla on this stage and I hope

690
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 7: her bank account was fatter because of the time.

691
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Speaker 2: Dude.

692
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Speaker 6: She knows how, she knows how to work on Mike

693
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Speaker 6: as well. She's made a lot of money in the PFL.

694
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Speaker 6: She is really motivated to be the best of the best.

695
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 6: I mean that that is on her mind, no question

696
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 6: about it. You could see her spirit was very different

697
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 6: after that Laris pi Jaco loss and how she came back.

698
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Speaker 6: So I'm excited for her. Man, that's going to be

699
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 6: huge for her and the UFC. They have a star there,

700
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 6: no question about it.

701
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 7: So the women's bandamweight champion is Raquel Pennington. Number one

702
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 7: rank contender is Juliana Penya. And by the way, Juliana

703
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 7: Penya did take issue with me. Saturday night. We ran

704
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 7: a graphic. It was a timeline that basically suggested that

705
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 7: that was the first bandamweight title fight. That fight between

706
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 7: Pennington and Bueno Silva was the first Kenny UFC Women's

707
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Speaker 7: bandamweight title fight that did not feature Ronda Rousi, Holly

708
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Speaker 7: Holme or Mescha Tate or excuse me, Ronda Rousi, Mescha

709
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Speaker 7: Tate and Amanda Nunez.

710
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Speaker 2: But that was the point of the graphics.

711
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Speaker 7: So we sort of glossed over the Juliana Penna win

712
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 7: over Amanda Nunez because Nonez was a part of that fight.

713
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 7: We were really trying to just outline the fact that

714
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Speaker 7: three women have been Omni president in the title fights

715
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Speaker 7: in this division, and Juliana took exception to that. So hopefully,

716
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 7: you know, she understood what I was saying in text

717
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 7: message that that was not a personal slight in any way,

718
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 7: shape or form. But Pennington's the champ. Pennya is the

719
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 7: number one contender, Buenos Silva the number two rank contender,

720
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 7: Kitlyn v eight to three, Arne Aldona four, Holly Home five,

721
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Speaker 7: Panny keans At six, Misha Tate eight, Cadolejos and nine.

722
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Speaker 2: I mean Tate, I love.

723
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Speaker 7: Her, but she came out and called this championship fight dynamic, right,

724
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 7: I mean that's a little bit disingenuous, I think, but

725
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 7: it goes on Coolejos and Macy Shafts on Norma Dumont,

726
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 7: Julia Avila. I mean Norma Dumont I don't think has

727
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 7: fought at thirty five in the UFC. Chelsea Chandlers on there,

728
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 7: you know how, I'm just in there. So Kenny for

729
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 7: Kayla Harrison, right, it's gonna be favored to beat someone

730
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 7: like Raquel Pennington, and all indications are that it will

731
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 7: be Pennington versus Penya.

732
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Speaker 2: There's heat, there's friction.

733
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Speaker 7: Julianna Penya lost her title fight due to injury, so

734
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 7: I think that's going to be the fight. But Kenny,

735
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 7: don't you believe bro that if Cayleb beats Holly Home

736
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 7: that her next fight is going to be for the

737
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 7: fucking world title?

738
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: Right? I mean I would think so.

739
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 6: I think that's why they're putting her against Holly Home.

740
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 6: And I also think it's particularly interesting that Holly Holme

741
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 6: really was responsible for ending the reign of the last

742
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 6: great judo black belt, Ronda Rousing. And how do you

743
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 6: have a part too? Maybe continuation of this a two

744
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 6: time gold medalist this time, and of course you know

745
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 6: things have changed, but I think it's an interesting story,

746
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 6: and you know, her having had the recipe for success

747
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 6: again someone like Ronda is something that she can kind

748
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 6: of build on. I think she's been working a lot

749
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 6: on her grappling the last couple of years, and she's

750
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 6: still very passionate and hungry, and I think it's gonna

751
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 6: be an interesting fight because of it.

752
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 7: Aman A Noon, as as many of you know, was

753
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 7: in Toronto and when she did an interview with Megan

754
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 7: o'levy after the fight, she spoke like a fighter who

755
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 7: is going to be coming back to compete. And I

756
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 7: have talked on this podcast about the four hours I

757
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 7: had with Amanda prior to the rain Al Dona fight

758
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 7: at the lion S Studio, and she perhaps was trying

759
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 7: to deceive me in that moment, but she was not

760
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 7: at all talking about retirement, and I do believe she

761
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 7: is going to come back and scratch that itch. But

762
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 7: one component of this is Nina Nunez, her wife, who

763
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 7: does want to come back and compete, and they do

764
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 7: have two little girls right now, and that is part

765
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 7: of the navigation. But I do think it has to

766
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 7: be the right fight for Amanda Nunez, and that fight

767
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 7: is not going to be Juliana Pena, It's not going

768
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 7: to be Raquel Pennington. It's going to be someone like

769
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 7: Kayla Harrison or Larissa Pacheco. And we'll see if Kayla

770
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 7: can hold serve against Holly Holme at UFC three hundred

771
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 7: coming up on April thirteenth. Kenny one other fight that

772
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 7: got announced for UFC three hundred on April thirteenth. I

773
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 7: wanted to get your thoughts on. I mean, dude, you

774
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 7: got to put Diego Lopez on this fight card. I mean,

775
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 7: the dude is guaranteed to entertain. Say what you want

776
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 7: about Diego Lopez, right, maybe you don't like his haircut,

777
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 7: I love it, but he's guaranteed to entertain. And he's

778
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 7: fighting Sadik Yusaf who is a ranked featherweight. So this

779
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 7: is another huge fight on a loaded card coming up

780
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 7: thirteen April.

781
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: My man, your thoughts Yeah, I love it.

782
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 7: Man.

783
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 6: These are two guys that are very versatile that can

784
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 6: win the fight fight in a variety of ways. Both

785
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 6: guys love to move forward, Jago Lopez especially, so uh so, yeah,

786
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 6: I think that's a good recipe to have a great,

787
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 6: great fight card for sure.

788
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 7: All Right, So I want to get back to Drake's

789
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 7: due plus C and his win over Sean Strickland by

790
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 7: split decision. By the way, on the wide shot, you

791
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 7: see that still knock sweatshirt up there, Ken Flowan Studio.

792
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: You see that shit, you probably do right.

793
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 7: So Drake has gave me that sweatshirt after his third

794
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 7: UFC appearance, So we wanted to give him a little

795
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 7: bit of love.

796
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: Very rarely what I actually cover up Larry Bird. But

797
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: we're doing. Why don't you rock that before he comes?

798
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 7: Champall you wait, day, Champion, put up in the studio

799
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 7: when you represent your boy when he you know Wagon.

800
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: What do you mean my boy?

801
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 5: Like?

802
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 7: What do you mean? Drake is my boy? That's my

803
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 7: fucking boy. Jesus Christ. Isn't that great? I can just

804
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 7: hit a button take him right out of the fucking shot. Yeah,

805
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 7: but you can't take my mic away.

806
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: Cody.

807
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 7: By the way, local record or is not working today

808
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 7: because my hard drive was full. So I'm your director today,

809
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 7: all right. So Sean Strickland, Drake is du plus C.

810
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 7: So we are in news and information podcasts. We don't

811
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 7: have any agenda. We try to present things here the

812
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 7: way we see it and not unlike when you and

813
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 7: I are calling fights, Kenny, We're just calling it like

814
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 7: we see it, right, there's no preconceived bias, there's no

815
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 7: promotional directive or anything of the sort. But I am

816
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 7: growing tired of this mma space a little bit, and

817
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 7: just the morass of negativity when there is a close

818
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 7: fight because even if you and I both thought Drake

819
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 7: is duplus C won the fight, we try to present

820
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 7: that information respectfully. And when I go on to X

821
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 7: or I go to our YouTube comments, it seems like

822
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 7: a lot of these fans are just in attack mode.

823
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 7: And I don't know if these fans are casual fans

824
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 7: or not, right, but I appreciate the passion, but I'm

825
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 7: getting to a point at forty five years of age,

826
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 7: where I don't know how much time I have left

827
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 7: in this MMA space, because if I go do pro football, like,

828
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 7: I'm not necessarily going to be dealing with this lowest

829
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 7: common denominator all the time. And I don't know, man,

830
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 7: I just feel like there's a lot of malice and

831
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 7: disrespect from the fan base and we can disagree, like,

832
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 7: don't take it from me, Demitrius Johnson and Kenny Florian

833
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 7: thought DDP won the fight.

834
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

835
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 7: I've just been very off put with the negativity that

836
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 7: has permeated my feed since Saturday night, and I'm just

837
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 7: not sure how much longer I have in this space.

838
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 6: Honestly, Yeah, listen, man, I think that I'm sure there's

839
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 6: a fair bit of it in football, but it seems

840
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 6: to be a very large problem in the MMA space.

841
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: It has for a very long time.

842
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 6: I think that people get very upset when their guy

843
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 6: or their girl loses, right, and a lot of.

844
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: These people might be people that are putting.

845
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 6: Money on them or whatever, and they get very upset

846
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 6: to see a certain thing not go away.

847
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: And again, if you've been watching MMA for a.

848
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 6: Very long time, that last fight should not be controversial

849
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 6: in any way, shape or form. Like if that went

850
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 6: the way of Strickland, you're like, Okay, I see that

851
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 6: it was, but it was a close, close fight, and

852
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 6: I think that for me, we we've talked about this before.

853
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 6: I think DDP was able to weave a narrative through

854
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 6: the rounds where it looked like he was doing all

855
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 6: the right things as far as aggression, moving forward, landing

856
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 6: shots at critical times, you know, like he was very

857
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 6: savvy and how he was going about the round and

858
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 6: how he was trying to win each and each and

859
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 6: every individual round. And Strickland I think shut down a

860
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 6: little bit when uh he started getting kicked in the

861
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 6: leg instead of him landing those jabs that threw away

862
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 6: his game plan. And DDP was able to, you know,

863
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 6: claw his way back into that fight. So certainly some

864
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 6: close rounds. But guys that are saying, ah, this this

865
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 6: was a robbery, or you know, certain guys were biased

866
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 6: towards I mean, you're you're delusional. You got to watch

867
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 6: more M M A and learn and really learn about

868
00:37:59,640 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 6: this sport.

869
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 7: And thousands of fans and I guess they're casuals, you know,

870
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 7: Sean Sheen and a lot of other fans are suggesting

871
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 7: to me to not even engage with these people. But gosh,

872
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 7: how many comments have we heard about to be the champion,

873
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 7: you got to beat the champion. And so I would

874
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 7: throw it back to you fans who think that Kenny

875
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 7: and I are are not understanding what you're saying, or

876
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 7: are dismissive of what you are saying. So are you

877
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 7: folks suggesting that for a judge like sal Diamato in

878
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 7: a close round, say round three, he should give it

879
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 7: to Strickland because he's the champion. Because if that's what

880
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 7: you are suggesting, that is absolutely in ame. And take

881
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 7: it from Sean Sheen. Excuse me, I said, Sean Strickland,

882
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 7: Take it from Sean Sheen. When the fight starts, neither

883
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 7: man is the champion, and that's the way you need

884
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 7: to judge the fight. But those of you suggesting that

885
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,239
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Speaker 7: Nicotine is an addictive chemical. All right, We are now

914
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 7: going back out to the guest line and we are

915
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 7: very happy to be joined by the birthday boy, my

916
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 7: favorite manager in all of mixed martial arts. I love

917
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 7: you Tim Simpson as well Danny Rubinstein, Ruby Sports and Entertainment.

918
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 7: Congratulations on another UFC world champion. Happy birthday, my man.

919
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: Good morning, thank you, good morning.

920
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 7: So I think you came on our show way back

921
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 7: in the day. You're one of the guys who has

922
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 7: listened to this podcast. I know you don't listen to

923
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 7: it regularly anymore. Thanks a lot, but this is a

924
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 7: guy who started listening to us all the way back

925
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 7: in twenty fifteen. But you and I go way back

926
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 7: and so when Pyotr Jan broke through and gave you your

927
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 7: first UFC World Championship, I was just so happy for

928
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 7: you and maybe even more so getting it done with

929
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 7: Dracus du plus C.

930
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: So congratulations.

931
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 7: I guess I just wanted to start with how you

932
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 7: and Dracus aligned and how soon did you know that

933
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 7: you might potentially have a UFC World champion under the

934
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 7: Rubys banner in Dracus.

935
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Speaker 4: So he was brought into Ruby from one of the

936
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 4: other managers we work with, Yusuf nasaar.

937
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: Usif used to be the matchmaker for Brave Uh.

938
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: He left Brave and we had had a relationship over there,

939
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: so I was like, hey, like, if you're interested in

940
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: staying in the sport, you know, I had just opening

941
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: in the Middle East and Europe that we're looking for

942
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 4: an agent over there to help bring in some talent.

943
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: And he, you know, we had the conversations with Drakis

944
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 4: and his team and everything went well.

945
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: He signed and very honestly, like I think he kind

946
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: of cold see it.

947
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: Even before he got in the UFC, he was two

948
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 4: eight champion at EFC in South Africa. He was two

949
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 4: eight champion in ksw and Poland. He had a win

950
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 4: over Berto Sildek, who everybody valued very high. I think,

951
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: you know, right away, I think we all kind of

952
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 4: saw how good he could be.

953
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 5: You know.

954
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 4: Obviously there's all the commentary of his herky jerky style

955
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 4: and he's awkward, and I mean, honestly, he's just you know,

956
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: he's one of those like super talented guy is that

957
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: just finds ways to win and it doesn't have to

958
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 4: be perfect, you know, but yeah, it's Uh, it was

959
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 4: nice to.

960
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: Be in the building for that one. I wasn't able

961
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: to be there for Peter's fight.

962
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: I was.

963
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 4: I was in the hotel in Abu Dabi, Like I

964
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 4: think Heather Linden came over to the room at like

965
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 4: five am and watched with me, and she's got some

966
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 4: video of me jumping around somewhere.

967
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 6: Well, dude, like, what were your emotions like when Buffer

968
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 6: was about to announce who one? How did you see

969
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 6: it going honestly? And uh, yeah, well what was that

970
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 6: feeling like?

971
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: So it was funny.

972
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: I was kind of more watching his dad because it

973
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 4: was his dad, his mom, his girlfriend and myself sitting

974
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 4: there a front row, and I was I was watching

975
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: his dad and you know, when they red a split decision.

976
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: They read Strickland first, and I was and.

977
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 4: His dad was like, oh, no, come on no, and

978
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 4: he's like uh, and I was like it was funny. Actually,

979
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 4: chill Son and I were texting back and forth earlier

980
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 4: in the in the fight, and he was like, Drake

981
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: is one. Drake has won three to two, but they're

982
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: going to give it to Strickland and I was like,

983
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 4: fuck no. Personally, I saw it three to two pretty clearly.

984
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't think there was that much argument

985
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 4: in the rounds. You know, I think one, you give

986
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 4: the Strickland. He did great getting the jab out there,

987
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 4: and one, and then I think when Drakes really started

988
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 4: to push him backwards in two, three and four, Like

989
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 4: I thought, those rounds are all pretty clear and very honestly,

990
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 4: like round five, like outside of the last minute, what

991
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 4: did Strickland do?

992
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: Like yeah, you know.

993
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 4: And I was, you know, talking to his girlfriend and

994
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, she was super nervous. It

995
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 4: was her first time at a fight. And after the

996
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 4: first round it was like, you know, I said, we

997
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 4: lost that round. And then after the second, I was like,

998
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 4: get one to one. After the third, I was like,

999
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: that's two one us, like it's pretty clear. And then

1000
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 4: after the fourth I was like three to one us,

1001
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: like all he's got to do is not get finished,

1002
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: you know, and obviously like he went out there and

1003
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 4: fought in the first four minutes.

1004
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: I think Strickland dideed a job of coming on late

1005
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: at the end.

1006
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: But I also don't know how you give him round

1007
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: five for just a minute of work.

1008
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1009
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all fair.

1010
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 7: I will say though, seeing you in the octagon celebrating

1011
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 7: with them was just really special for all of us

1012
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 7: who know you and know how you've gone about this

1013
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 7: the right way, and even some of your former clients

1014
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 7: that are super high profile when they moved on from you,

1015
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 7: and it wasn't because of you. It was just because

1016
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 7: of one reason or another, and you let them go

1017
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 7: and you give them your blessing. I just want to

1018
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 7: run through Danny's some of your high profile clients right now,

1019
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 7: kyiodr Yan Movsar. You Havevloyev, Rafael phazib Arman Sayrukian, Shavkot Rockmanov,

1020
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 7: and of course now Drake is duplus c. To have

1021
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 7: done it the right way, the way you have done it,

1022
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 7: and to now have all this talent in all of

1023
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 7: these marquee divisions, you essentially have one or in the

1024
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 7: case of lightweight two guys who could contend for a

1025
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 7: world title. Not that you're stopping and smelling the roses,

1026
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 7: but have you allowed yourself to sort of appreciate yourself

1027
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 7: and what you've accomplished, because I remember some of the

1028
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 7: lean years and some of the struggles to sort of

1029
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 7: get to this point. And now, whether you like it

1030
00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 7: or not, you're on top of the world.

1031
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean obviously you know today will be

1032
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: going to dinner for my birthday, nothing crazy, Yeah, I

1033
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 4: mean to celebrate. We honestly, there's no time to celebrate,

1034
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 4: Like I'm already back into like doing stuff for Justin

1035
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 4: Tafa for two ninety eight, Canny eight, right, and then

1036
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 4: Peter two ninety nine, and obviously we have armand on

1037
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: three hundred and very honest, you know, try and hope

1038
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 4: Dracus is okay that there can be some talks about

1039
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 4: maybe him headlining three hundred.

1040
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: So now just right back to work.

1041
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 7: It's interesting when it comes to Dracus Duplessi, and I'm

1042
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 7: not looking for you to break any news here, obviously,

1043
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 7: you know he was on the Anticanploring podcast on Monday.

1044
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 7: You can check out that exclusive on the DraftKings YouTube channel.

1045
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 7: But you know, both feed are banged up. The facial

1046
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 7: swelling subsided considerably from Saturday to Monday. But can you

1047
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 7: speak to like what the financial swing? I don't need numbers,

1048
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 7: but is it, like, is it a huge swing for

1049
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 7: him fighting at three hundred versus say three to zero

1050
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 7: two headlining the show on his own?

1051
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 4: I mean, the contract's already done, right, Like we'd have

1052
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 4: to go back to Hunter and Mick and say, hey,

1053
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: let's have a conversation about him, right if he's gonna

1054
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 4: headline three hundred. But yeah, I mean, you know I

1055
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 4: took the Hunter after the after after the fights, and

1056
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 4: he said, you know, if we if we do decide

1057
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 4: to go with Drake Kis for three hundred, we'll sit

1058
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 4: down and get it sorted out and make sure he's

1059
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 4: happy with what we do. You know, the UFC is

1060
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 4: great about it, you know obviously, like they have their

1061
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 4: guys that they're gonna they have their slots that guys

1062
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: fall into for normal contracts.

1063
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: This isn't a normal contract situation.

1064
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I mean I would imagine that three hundred,

1065
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 4: you know, and obviously, as a champion now gets pay

1066
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 4: per viewpoints right headlining, I think just the number three

1067
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: hundred alone is gonna add you know, three two hundred

1068
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 4: and fifty, three hundred thousand pay per view buys just

1069
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 4: the number. It don't matter who's on the card, so

1070
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, obviously I think there's a huge incentive

1071
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 4: for him to be healthy and make a play to

1072
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: try to headline three hundred. Yeah, I mean he wants

1073
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: to do it. You know, we've had the talks. He

1074
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 4: wants to do it is just about making sure he's healthy.

1075
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: I think. I think the.

1076
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 4: Belt and retaining his championship is more important than fighting

1077
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: on UFC three hundred.

1078
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 7: No, I agree, all right, before we let you go,

1079
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 7: and you can certainly say no comment. But there are

1080
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 7: three or four possible opponents I would think for DVP right. Fourth,

1081
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 7: I guess would be Alex Padata because the whole notion

1082
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 7: that he can't make eighty five again is totally foolish.

1083
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 7: He was a little bit strong armed by the promotion

1084
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 7: even to move up to two hundred and five pounds,

1085
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 7: so Padda can make eighty five. Israel Loto Sonia seeming

1086
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 7: Lee is on the inside track lane right now, and

1087
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 7: then of course you have Kamzat Chimayev and a potential

1088
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 7: rematch with Sean Strickman. Any insight from you as to

1089
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 7: either who you'd prefer or who you think leads the

1090
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 7: dance right now in terms of having the inside track

1091
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 7: on that title shot for ddp's first defense.

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Speaker 4: I mean, preference wise, I think it's Adasnya. I think

1093
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 4: the heat between the two of them, Uh, they've already

1094
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: done all the lead up to build the fight, you know.

1095
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 4: I think he's who we'd all prefer as a team.

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00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Hamzat I don't really think he's a middleweight.

1098
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 4: I think he's a welterweight that is lazy and can't

1099
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: make weight at at.

1100
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: One seventy anymore, you know. And Alex Pereira.

1101
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 4: I'd rather see Drake Is go up and fight him

1102
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 4: at two oh five and let's see if he can

1103
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: be double champ, right.

1104
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean there's all this.

1105
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 4: I don't love the whole double champ movement, but if

1106
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 4: that's if that's the case, like, I'd rather him go

1107
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 4: up and get the second belt than him defended at

1108
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 4: eighty five right and very and very honestly like he

1109
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 4: wasn't going to call out Izzy if is he wasn't

1110
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 4: going to be ready, Like I hit up is He's

1111
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 4: managers like, hey, is he going to be ready? We're

1112
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 4: gonna call out Izzy if he's going to be ready.

1113
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 4: But if he's not going to be ready for three hundred,

1114
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 4: I don't want Drake is barking up the wrong tree. Right,

1115
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 4: We'll call out Alex Pereira. He's right there in the octagon.

1116
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 4: So you know, they told me easy it would be ready.

1117
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 4: So that was the you know, we talked as a

1118
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 4: team and that was a call out he made.

1119
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I hope it comes together. But you're dripping

1120
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Speaker 7: in class sows the new champion if you are a

1121
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 7: young fighter. Can't emphasize enough how good an egg this

1122
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 7: Danny Rubinstein is if you want to find him on

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00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 7: the social channels at Danny rube Congratulations. My man got

1124
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 7: a lot of guys coming down the pike, and I

1125
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 7: think it's an eventuality that you're going to have a

1126
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 7: third undisputed UFC World champion. But we appreciate you getting

1127
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 7: drac Is for us on Monday, and uh, happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: How old are you? Bro?

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Speaker 5: Forty two?

1130
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: He paused like a woman, as if you were not

1131
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: liking the question.

1132
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I mean it. It is what it is.

1133
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 7: You're the youngest guy in the room right now. Congratulations fuddy.

1134
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Speaker 7: We appreciate the time and look forward to seeing in Anaheim,

1135
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 7: if not sooner.

1136
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Speaker 2: Happy birthday thanks to you. Grats Bro. There he is

1137
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: standy Rube with us here on Anakin Forium podcast.

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Speaker 7: Right, So there was some news in there, right because

1139
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 7: there were some rumblings that maybe is were a lot

1140
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 7: of wasn't one hundred percent, But wise on Danny right

1141
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 7: to get that information before the call out, So I

1142
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 7: think that makes a lot of sense for UFC three hundred.

1143
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Speaker 7: we asked the question this week, and Jay's going to

1151
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 7: chase those results for us what will be the main

1152
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 7: event at UFC three hundred, and some fans were critical

1153
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 7: of the choices, and this is not on Kenny, this

1154
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 7: is really on me. But I had Drake is du

1155
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 7: plus e versus Israel out of Sonia, do plus e

1156
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 7: versus Alex Padata, Alex Padata versus Maga met Anklaiev or other. Now,

1157
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 7: the reason I did not include Kenny do plus c

1158
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 7: versus Strickland in a rematch was just because at his

1159
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 7: post fight media scrum, Dana White suggested that there are

1160
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 7: legs for a rematch at some point in time. He

1161
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 7: is expecting that those two men would fight again, but

1162
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 7: they're not looking at a rematch right now. So when

1163
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 7: I heard that from Dana, it seemed like that was

1164
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 7: not going to be the headliner or at UFC three hundred,

1165
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 7: so I did not include that as an option. I

1166
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 7: also did not include Drakes du plus e versus Kamzat Schimayeb,

1167
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 7: although I think that fight has legs. So before I

1168
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 7: get to the results, Kenny, I mean, what are your expectations.

1169
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 7: I guess given what you heard from Danny Ruby, you

1170
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 7: think it's going to be DVP and is he under

1171
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 7: lights April thirteenth.

1172
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, definitely very smart on Ruby to do that.

1173
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 6: I think that's the fight to make. I think it's

1174
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 6: the biggest fight to make for sure.

1175
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 7: Jay, what are the pole results saying, yeah, that's the

1176
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 7: leader in the clubhouse? Fifty one percent dupless E versus

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Speaker 7: to Sonya. Second is actually other at twenty seven percent,

1178
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 7: fourteen percent Pereira versus uncliv and.

1179
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: Eight percent dupless versus Pereira moving up.

1180
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Speaker 7: So part of the reason why I did not include

1181
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 7: what was the other fight that people? Oh yeah, Leon

1182
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 7: Edwards versus Blau Muhammad. So I didn't include that fight

1183
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 7: because I'm just not expectant that that is going to

1184
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 7: be your UFC three hundred headliner. Correct, certainly, I think

1185
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 7: Leon's status is such that they could headline with that fight.

1186
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 7: But I mean, you know, Balala is as well as anyone.

1187
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 7: It seems like the fans are a little bit lukewarm

1188
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 7: on that fight as a UFC three hundred main event. Yeah,

1189
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 7: I mean, I think Leon, I mean, I don't think

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00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 7: Leon is a enormous pay per view seller. Danny Rubinstein's

1191
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 7: points very well taken that you're going to get two

1192
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 7: fifty three hundred whatever, however many extra buys you get

1193
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 7: just because of the number. But no, I don't I

1194
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 7: envision that as a comin event. Blal and I have

1195
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 7: talked about that. I mean, certainly if it's in June July,

1196
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 7: that could change some things. But on three hundred, it's

1197
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 7: hard for me to imagine Leon Edwards headlining it. Yeah,

1198
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Speaker 7: all right, I want to go back out to the

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Speaker 7: guest line right now and now joining us is one

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Speaker 7: of the most genuine, thoughtful, intelligent men in all of

1201
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 7: mixed martial arts. The head coach at Extreme co Tour,

1202
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 7: Eric Nixon is with us.

1203
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Speaker 2: What's up? Good morning, how are we doing?

1204
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 5: What's up fellas? How are you guys, Doug?

1205
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: We're doing well man.

1206
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 7: So you know, chail Son and recently referred to me

1207
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 7: as the hardest working man in MMA, and perhaps he

1208
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,959
Speaker 7: met like non fighter and non coach. Seemingly no one's

1209
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 7: schedule is as busy as yours. I know Forcibly, you've

1210
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,479
Speaker 7: had to scale back a little bit when it comes

1211
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 7: to the overall attention you are given certain athletes. But

1212
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 7: how are you navigating that right now? With Francis and

1213
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 7: Ganu and all of your high high and low profile

1214
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 7: MMA fighters as well.

1215
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 5: Honestly, just like trusting the people around you, I think

1216
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 5: is very important. I think for for a number of years,

1217
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 5: I saw how how much it ran Robert and the dirt, you.

1218
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 9: Know, and trying to, I guess, manage and micro manage.

1219
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 5: Every little every little turn in where you have accomplished

1220
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 5: coaches around you that you can trust and you can

1221
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 5: lean on. And I think, you know, that was part

1222
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 5: of my growth with Robert was he began to trust

1223
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 5: me and lean on me more and allow me to

1224
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 5: have some of those duties. So I think it's important

1225
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 5: like Danny Davis has those duties hey hold pads for

1226
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 5: for Sean or you know, Nate doing that for Chris,

1227
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 5: and you can still be hands on and do all

1228
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 5: those things. But also just trusting the people around you,

1229
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 5: because each fighter deserves that one hundred percent of attention,

1230
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 5: whether it's one hundred percent from you or it's broken

1231
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 5: up in thirds. And I think that's what's important and

1232
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 5: why it's important for us to win like Jim of

1233
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 5: the Year, because all those guys in the room are

1234
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 5: doing so much damn good work. And that's what I

1235
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 5: love the most about our team.

1236
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 7: All right, well before I get let well before I

1237
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 7: like kind of get in here on the fight.

1238
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: I just I and you were prepared for this question.

1239
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 7: But in terms of just the media load and all

1240
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 7: the people wanting to talk to you, right, It's great

1241
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 7: to be thoughtful and have all of this MMA knowledge,

1242
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 7: but it does come with a price because everybody wants

1243
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 7: a piece of you, and you have become accessible. Like

1244
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 7: in twenty seventeen, I basically stopped honoring every single media

1245
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 7: request that came in because there was a time in

1246
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 7: my career where I felt like I should be doing

1247
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 7: all of these things to get myself out there. But

1248
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 7: part of the reason I hesitate to reach out to

1249
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 7: a guy like you on Monday is because I know

1250
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 7: everybody else is fucking reaching out here. So I don't

1251
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 7: know if your wife Annie is just a saint, but

1252
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 7: like I'd imagine at one point she's like, hey, dude,

1253
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 7: can you not go on like MMA sucker for life?

1254
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 5: Doc?

1255
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 7: How are you navigating the myriad media requests that continue

1256
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 7: to come in and have you said no increasingly as

1257
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 7: your profile has expanded.

1258
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 5: It's two sides to it, man, And like I just

1259
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 5: I'm always just been that type of guy, or I'm

1260
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 5: going to say yes to Ariel or if it's the

1261
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 5: upstart podcast guy. And you know, because I dude, I

1262
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 5: have a big heart, man, I really do. And I

1263
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 5: feel like for my mentality that somebody opened the door

1264
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 5: for me once and I just try to allow me

1265
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 5: to open a door for them if that means if

1266
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 5: I do one interview.

1267
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 9: For them, maybe they get Kenny, maybe they get one.

1268
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 5: Of you guys.

1269
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 7: You know.

1270
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 5: So I have that mentality. And then Rogan, Rogan kind

1271
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 5: of got on me about He's like, dude, you don't

1272
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 5: have to do every podcast ever, he said, you know,

1273
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 5: because remember people are trying to build.

1274
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 9: A name off of you as well. So I try to.

1275
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 5: I try to, like I guess, navigate both. But man,

1276
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 5: like when when the when the when the kid in

1277
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 5: college in his dorm room has his sheet hung up

1278
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 5: over the back and he's trying to do an interview,

1279
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 5: I'll say, yes, I'll just I'll just have to put

1280
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 5: a time limit on it and say, hey, you got kids, bro.

1281
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I've actually done, time limits. I never

1282
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 7: do anything longer than twenty five minutes right now. And

1283
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 7: I think that's a good way to navigate it. But uh,

1284
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 7: no doubt you got a big heart. Kemfl What do

1285
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 7: you have for Eric Nixon?

1286
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: Oh that's amazing. Eric. Have you have you gone back?

1287
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 6: I assume you have gone back and watched the fight

1288
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 6: and and what your thoughts were on it and how

1289
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,479
Speaker 6: you saw it scoring wise.

1290
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 5: Honestly, I haven't watched it back yet. Ken you, Well, yeah,

1291
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 5: I've been. I've been busy, like the moment I landed,

1292
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 5: and then I've also had like that almost like that

1293
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 5: I would say PTSD, but I just have like this

1294
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 5: anxiousness about like what crumbs we might have left behind,

1295
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 5: you know, And that's what kills me the most, man,

1296
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 5: is like those those close fights. I talked to John

1297
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 5: the day after, and those close fights hurt me the

1298
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 5: most because that means we left some crumbs behind. We

1299
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 5: didn't win the optic battle, we didn't do little things

1300
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 5: that we could have done I think to sway the judges.

1301
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 5: And that falls on me as a coach man, and

1302
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 5: and that that's a that's a tough pill to swallow

1303
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 5: at Toms because it's a title, man, you know, it's

1304
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 5: a it's a world title, and I know how hard

1305
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 5: those are to come by.

1306
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: What you call.

1307
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 6: I mean right after round three you said to Sean,

1308
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 6: you didn't like that round.

1309
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't like that round, Sean, I didn't

1310
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: like that round.

1311
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 6: And you could argue that might have been the round

1312
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 6: that was the deciding factor.

1313
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: Is that the way you saw it there.

1314
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 5: There there was an edge to him that I usually

1315
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 5: see that I didn't feel in my fighter like a

1316
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 5: like a like he was really like wanted to push

1317
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 5: a pace and kill this guy, you know, And I

1318
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 5: didn't have that edge that I felt. I initially thought

1319
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 5: we won rounds one and two to being close.

1320
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 9: I didn't know how they were going to score the takedowns.

1321
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 5: But I gotta admit, like, what kind of messed me

1322
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 5: up was I looked down at the at the apron

1323
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 5: and they showed the live odds, like the graphic. So

1324
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 5: I looked down and I saw, you know, we were

1325
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 5: minus two hundred out of the first round, minus three

1326
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 5: twenty five after the second round. I might be wrong,

1327
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 5: but I remember seeing the odds being in our favor, right, Okay,

1328
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 5: So if there's people in the world that know what

1329
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 5: they saw, it's people with money on it, you would think.

1330
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 5: So I'm like okay, it reitererated my thoughts that we

1331
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 5: won round one and two. Again, this is this is MMA.

1332
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 5: It could be it could change it every moment depending

1333
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 5: on who's in the seat. But I felt pretty good

1334
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 5: about one and two. And then you know when John

1335
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 5: wrote me, I haven't watched it back. I remember saying

1336
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 5: that in round three, but we started to me where

1337
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 5: after round one I thought we fought the round perfectly.

1338
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 5: Round two, Kenny, we got away from the one thing

1339
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 5: that I wanted the most of the fight was our team.

1340
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 5: We got away from it right, you know. And I

1341
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 5: jumped on him after round two, because remember the team

1342
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 5: works differently for every opponent. It was it served a

1343
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 5: different purpose for Izzy, but for this fight it was

1344
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 5: very important for us too. And I kept telling him

1345
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 5: flat and the tires. That was knocking the wind out

1346
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 5: of the body. Man. Flatten and attires. That was one

1347
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 5: number two. It was kept distance management. It didn't allow

1348
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 5: him to come running forward with those weird combinations. You

1349
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 5: stick her right to his belly or stick her right

1350
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 5: to his chest, and it stops that. We got away

1351
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 5: from it there. And also it gives another scrowing criteria

1352
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 5: for the see right and if it's just a job.

1353
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 5: It's death by a thousand paper cuts. Now you start

1354
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 5: adding in the kicks. Well, now the optics look a

1355
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 5: little bit different. You have a two seam fastball. Now

1356
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 5: you gotta cut it right, both fastballs, but they're both

1357
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 5: working well. And that was my thing. After round two,

1358
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 5: It's like, man, we got to get back to that

1359
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 5: team and start chopping the legs a little bit more

1360
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 5: and flatt and at tires. You know, so just little

1361
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 5: things like that that those things are gonna bug me

1362
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 5: the most.

1363
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 7: Eric Nixic with us here on the Anakin Florian podcast. Now, promotionally,

1364
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 7: the stage was already set for israelllo Soni versus Trachis

1365
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 7: du plus C. Dana White after the fight suggested that

1366
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 7: even though he thinks a rematch between Strickland and Duplus,

1367
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 7: he has legs that it won't be of the immediate variety.

1368
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: But bro, this fan base is so fucking wound up

1369
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: right now that I do believe.

1370
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 7: And I don't know about Izzy's relative health, right Danny

1371
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 7: Rube just suggested that maybe is he was healthy, But bro,

1372
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 7: if they announced this rematch as the headliner for UFC

1373
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 7: three hundred, I think I speak for the fan base,

1374
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 7: We're going to be thrilled, Like I need to see

1375
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 7: this again. I'm not saying right away, but i'd imagine

1376
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 7: you're pretty excited at the possibility of being able to

1377
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 7: sort of right this wrong, so to speak, at some point.

1378
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely would. I would love that opportunity to

1379
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 5: compete again, man. Like, you know, hats off to Drinkius

1380
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 5: and his team. They fought, they fought brilliantly class the

1381
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 5: individual like, I'm glad they're getting their shine. I truly am. Like,

1382
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 5: if we're going to lose, I'm glad we lost to

1383
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 5: drinks in his team, and I'm glad they're getting their

1384
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 5: shine and along with their country. But as a competitor, yes, absolutely, man,

1385
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 5: I would love that opportunity to be able to go

1386
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 5: and compete against them again and and make some adjustments

1387
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 5: and go out and try to get that belt back.

1388
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 7: I wanted to ask you about Chris Curtis against Marc

1389
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 7: Andre Barrio, And sometimes it's hard for us as commentators

1390
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 7: when the fans start booing, especially when they've been spoiled

1391
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 7: to an amazing night and you see this as a

1392
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 7: mixed martial arts fight and a striking contest that is

1393
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 7: maybe not the fight of the year, certainly aesthetically pleasing.

1394
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 7: What were your thoughts on on Curtis's win. Certainly I

1395
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 7: thought he did enough to win the fight, but his

1396
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 7: win the booing, and then maybe after the fact some

1397
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 7: of his criticism of the commentators suggesting that he was

1398
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 7: just sparing in there.

1399
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 5: So the fight in itself. And I said this to

1400
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 5: him alder in camp. If they're booing, we are winning. Right,

1401
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 5: If they're booing, we are winning. That's that's you're gonna

1402
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 5: get that. The countrymen, they're gonna get behind them we want.

1403
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 5: And I said that going in around three, I go

1404
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 5: taking the booze. Bro those are our.

1405
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 9: Cheers, Like, that's what we want. We're winning the fight.

1406
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 5: You know, I don't see how anyone would have score

1407
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 5: hit a split decision, you know, I thought it was

1408
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 5: I thought twenty nine twenty eight at best, right, yah,

1409
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 5: at worst for Chris so but man, like I don't

1410
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 5: know all the things that were said. I didn't listen

1411
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 5: to the commentary, nor does it matter like I say

1412
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 5: to Chris when Chris, I don't know. I saw Chris

1413
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 5: went scorched earth on poor all right, bro, it doesn't matter.

1414
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. And I even said it, Chris, I said,

1415
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 5: what if Dom said it looked like a sparring match,

1416
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 5: because you made.

1417
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 9: It look easy, right, there's perspective.

1418
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 5: To be had, you know. And I actually was contemplating

1419
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 5: on texting you last night and sending you a text

1420
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 5: to give the Dom saying, hey, listen, I'm sorry, man like,

1421
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 5: I don't want I don't want there to be like

1422
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 5: a beef between even teams or our athletes, because you

1423
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 5: guys have a job to do, and I respect that

1424
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 5: you guys have a job to do. You're calling it

1425
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 5: like you see it, right, So if one of you

1426
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 5: guys says something about our performance, I don't take it

1427
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,439
Speaker 5: as as criticism. I take it as okay. I trust

1428
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 5: Kenny's eye. If you see something that we're doing, dude,

1429
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 5: take a step back from the sniperscope and look at

1430
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 5: the entire environment. Maybe there's something we can do better.

1431
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 5: That's that's all man like that, you know, I don't

1432
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 5: I don't like to get in none of that bullshit.

1433
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 7: Well, and I would say to Chris and any other

1434
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 7: athlete that takes exception to the commentary, and I'm not

1435
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 7: an analyst.

1436
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm a play by play guy. It's a very important distinction.

1437
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 7: But none of our analysts bring any malice nor disrespect

1438
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 7: to the table. Like whatever dom or DC said about

1439
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 7: the sparing nature of portions of that fight, it's not

1440
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 7: really anything that is said with disrespect, but I think

1441
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 7: sometimes it is ingested as such.

1442
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 2: So how soon do you head to Saudi Arabia?

1443
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 7: You go, like a couple weeks out if you don't know,

1444
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 7: Francis and Ganu and Anthony Joshua not all that far

1445
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 7: from right now.

1446
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'll have Roman delieds a main event. The third,

1447
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 5: I'll have Egay Brad February tenth. I'll go Mexico City

1448
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 5: to for zel Huber, Mexico City straight to Saudi, and

1449
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 5: I'll be in Saudi for the for the rest of

1450
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 5: the time until Francis fights. And you know, had it

1451
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 5: not been for zel Huber, I would go right after

1452
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 5: Egay and Brad. But because Dewey and I both shazel Huber,

1453
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 5: and Dewey's already in Saudi right now with Francis. I

1454
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 5: talked to Dewey for about thirty minutes last night. It's

1455
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 5: it's you know, it's Dewey's show. So if I said

1456
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 5: to Francis, I go, bro, if you tell me you

1457
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 5: need me there, I'll have to tell Ze Houber I'm sorry,

1458
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 5: and he goes, no, stay with Dell Huber. I feel

1459
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 5: bad that you know, I got you and Dewey, so

1460
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 5: do your job. Come straight out there when it's done.

1461
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 5: So it's all working out perfectly for all us. The

1462
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 5: teams all where it needs to be. All of our

1463
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 5: sparring partners that we had are basically Eastern European guys,

1464
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 5: so they're thankful that we were doing it out in Saudi.

1465
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 9: All the boys are on the ground right now. Francis

1466
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 9: barred nine rounds.

1467
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 5: Yesterday, which was which was great because we would do

1468
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 5: like four four pads. This dude, he's already right back

1469
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 5: in So Dewey's excited. He says he's looking amazing, and

1470
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 5: I just I can't wait to get out there and

1471
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 5: see our boy. You know, I haven't seen him since

1472
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 5: the fight.

1473
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, I gots I know.

1474
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 5: I saw him once. I saw him once he came

1475
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 5: home for like a minute, said hi, came and beat

1476
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 5: up half the team and left.

1477
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 2: Before I let you go.

1478
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 7: So I try to predict what I think betting line

1479
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 7: will be before I actually look at it, and when

1480
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 7: I was thinking about Anthony Joshua and Frances and Gono.

1481
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 7: I understand stylistically it's a different fight than Tyson Fury,

1482
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 7: But just given the competitive nature of that Tyson Fury

1483
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 7: fight and how there for the taking it was in

1484
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 7: the latter rounds, I thought Francis would be like plus

1485
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 7: two twenty, maybe as high as plus two seventy.

1486
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 3: Bro.

1487
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 7: Like, I guess I'm asking this somewhat rhetorically, but Francis

1488
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 7: and Ghana right now is plus four seventy. I kind

1489
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 7: of want to violate my contract and bet on him, Like, dude,

1490
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 7: why such a big number?

1491
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 5: Yeah? And stylistically, you know, I mean, Kenny, what do

1492
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 5: you think, Bro? I feel like aj is gonna be there,

1493
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 5: He's gonna It's gonna be a fight where we don't

1494
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 5: have to track this guy down the same way we

1495
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 5: had to with Tyson, where Tyson's elusiveness and the cage

1496
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 5: cutoffs and all those things were a lot of our

1497
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 5: game plan, whereas this guy's gonna be more plotty and

1498
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 5: work behind his jab and be in front of us. So,

1499
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 5: you know, I feel like, we're gonna be able to

1500
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 5: hit this guy a little bit more. And I mean, dude,

1501
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 5: when you get hit by Francis, we all know, man's

1502
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 5: life changing.

1503
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, not in a good way. Yeah, I mean that's

1504
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: the way I see.

1505
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 6: I think this is a way more dangerous fight for

1506
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 6: someone who has a style like Anthony Joshua, just because

1507
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 6: like you said, he's going to try to he's going

1508
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 6: to try to be there for Francis, So that means

1509
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Speaker 6: Francis gets the land shots. If Francis is landing shots,

1510
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 6: watch out, it's a wrap.

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01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: Ah well.

1512
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 7: He was the consensus Mixed Martial Arts Coach of the

1513
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,919
Speaker 7: Year in twenty twenty three. Eric Nixic on Instagram, Eric

1514
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 7: underscore xc MMA. Super gracious for you to give us

1515
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 7: a quarter of an hour, my man, thank you so

1516
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 7: much for the time. We wish you all the best.

1517
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 7: I know I'll see you over the next few weeks.

1518
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 7: But uh, bro, you're the fucking man. You know, nobody

1519
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 7: has a bad word to say about you because you're

1520
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 7: just the real article and uh continued success.

1521
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 2: You know, you're the consummate example.

1522
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 7: I think of good things happening to good, good people,

1523
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 7: But you've made it all happen yourself, so continue to

1524
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 7: enjoy the fruits best of the family, and we'll see

1525
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 7: in a few weeks.

1526
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 5: Brother, all right, thank you guys, thanks for having me on.

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01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 7: Thanks man right there he is Extreme co Tours Eric

1528
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 7: Nixon with us here Annik and Florian podcast.

1529
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens.

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01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 7: I mean, I really like Sean Strickland and Dracus dou

1531
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 7: plus I hope they fight again, but I just think

1532
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 7: we're gonna have to wait a little bit.

1533
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: I have a gift for you, j Do you have

1534
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 2: a comment.

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01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I just want to say, I mean, I

1536
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 7: know earlier talking about oh, twenty twenty six, you know,

1537
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 7: I'm out of this game or whatever, And I don't

1538
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 7: think you should react too much to some of these fans,

1539
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 7: Like I think it's cool to be able to talk

1540
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 7: about this stuff. I can't wait to watch it back,

1541
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 7: like round two. My takeaway, if you want to know

1542
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 7: the truth, I remember thinking man dupeless, he kind of

1543
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 7: wild here, Strickland's very poisoned, sort of crispy, and his

1544
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 7: job seems to be getting through.

1545
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 2: So I'm very anxious to watch it back.

1546
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 7: But I think it's more, you know, and taking this

1547
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 7: stuff personally about people saying, oh, the champion should should

1548
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 7: I don't even worry about that stuff.

1549
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 2: It, you know, it just kind of is what it is.

1550
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 6: I guess I'm not I was gonna tell Jason that

1551
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 6: he doesn't know that I made John Side a contract.

1552
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 6: It's a thirty year contract podcast. He can't leave the podcast.

1553
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 6: Heave somewhere else, he can't leave the podcast. It's like

1554
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 6: I'm mafia.

1555
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1556
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 7: No, I mean, it's important feedback from you, Jay, And

1557
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 7: I'm not trying to take it personally. But I try

1558
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 7: to be accessible and engage with fans, especially on X

1559
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 7: and some of my broadcast partners, Joe Rogan chief among them,

1560
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 7: their profile is so high and they are so famous

1561
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 7: that they can't possibly engage with the fans on a

1562
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 7: regular basis, even somebody like Daniel Cormier, Right, So you

1563
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 7: got to post and ghost a little bit, right, But

1564
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 7: for me, I try to be that accessible conduit for

1565
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 7: the fans. And what I'm finding is that ninety percent

1566
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 7: of what I am sifting through is negative and a

1567
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 7: lot of those comments are said in an antagonistic, attacking

1568
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 7: type of way. And so I got three kids and

1569
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 7: just better things to do with my time. But again,

1570
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 7: I'm trying to be especially after a fight like this,

1571
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 7: I want to be able to engage. But when I

1572
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 7: see the venom that some people are coming at us with,

1573
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 7: it just makes me disengage. So I guess maybe my

1574
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 7: thesis statement should be, if you see me disengage in

1575
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 7: not be as omnipresent and as accessible on exit's because

1576
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 7: the fan base is started to turn me off. And

1577
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 7: Mark RAYMONDI had a very thoughtful post about this on

1578
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 7: on Instagram. This sport is getting worse by the minute

1579
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 7: in terms of all the negativity in the air, not

1580
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:17,480
Speaker 7: at the times.

1581
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 6: Right the side of the collective of kind of how

1582
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 6: people are in general, Like this country is more separated

1583
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 6: than ever all this stuff.

1584
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:25,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's unfortunate.

1585
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 6: Man, I gotta say, I got it's not to change

1586
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 6: a subject here too much, but I gotta say Eric

1587
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 6: Nixick man, I'm never not impressed by him anytime we

1588
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 6: get a chance to talk to him.

1589
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 2: He just he's a coach that is really thinking.

1590
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 6: About what he's doing, how he's doing it, open to criticism,

1591
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 6: open to feedback, always trying to get better.

1592
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: Man, It's impressive.

1593
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 7: He's an amazing human. He went to the Raptors Bulls

1594
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 7: game Thursday night. I was surprised to be able to

1595
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 7: spend that time with him the night, you know, as

1596
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 7: he had to leave it halftime because Strickland was cutting weight.

1597
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 7: But you know he said, he's like, I have a

1598
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 7: big heart, and you can be sure that. I mean,

1599
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 7: that's the definition of him. But he also got a

1600
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 7: big head.

1601
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: Man.

1602
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 7: He is sharp, and I think he balances and personalities

1603
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 7: so well. I was really upset by Chris Curtis's comments

1604
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 7: too on MMA Fighting dot Com to Ariel Hawanee about

1605
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 7: Domina Cruz, you know, just going at him like totally

1606
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 7: in attack mode. You know, our best analysts, right are

1607
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 7: the ones that are critical, that are highly analytical, that

1608
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 7: are not there to make friends.

1609
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: And I would argue Kenny.

1610
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 7: Of all of my broadcast partners and colleagues that I

1611
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 7: work with, Anthony Lyon hart Smith might be the most critical.

1612
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 7: And when it comes time that he's going to be

1613
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 7: calling fights, like, I can assure you he's not there

1614
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 7: to make friends.

1615
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 2: Like Dean Thomas has.

1616
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 7: Upset a lot of people, right, Domina Cruz spars more

1617
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 7: than any of my broadcast partners by far, but to

1618
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 7: see Chris get so upset and start to attack Dom,

1619
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 7: Chris Curtis lost me. Well, but do you think I

1620
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 7: mean Dom? I say all the time, I've never met

1621
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 7: any one of my life who gives less fucks than Dom.

1622
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 7: So you can be sure dominate to phase by it.

1623
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 7: But John, I think you got to sort of keep

1624
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 7: that of that stuff in a compartment, you know.

1625
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, Listen, I think that it's tough, right when when

1626
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 6: you're a fighter, there's a certain level of you know,

1627
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 6: ego that you bring in there, and you have to

1628
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 6: balance it. You have to be open to feedback. But

1629
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 6: at the same time, you know, it is our ego

1630
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 6: that drives us to train harder and fight harder and all.

1631
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: Those things at times.

1632
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 6: And yeah, fighters take it differently, man, and and listen,

1633
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 6: you know Dom has been very outspoken against other people

1634
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 6: as well, and you know, I'm sure he expects to

1635
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 6: get venom thrown back at him and all that stuff.

1636
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 6: There's no question that when Dom is seeing something and

1637
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 6: saying something, it's because he truly believes that he doesn't

1638
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 6: have anything against you. Really, he's just calling it like

1639
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 6: he sees it. And you know, for a lot of

1640
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 6: fighters that perhaps aren't even at that level or the

1641
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 6: experience level of Dominic Cruz. They may not see it,

1642
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 6: but if you investigated, you take that feedback, you know openly,

1643
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 6: you might be able to get better because of it.

1644
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 6: Dom is one of the best minds in mixed martial

1645
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 6: arts period, and you.

1646
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 7: Know, I feel like I've lost a handful of friends

1647
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 7: just because of the nature of my MMA preparation.

1648
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a boy scout on the road.

1649
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 7: I'm in my room all the time, and as such,

1650
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 7: I am very sensitive or at least tuned into fighter

1651
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 7: criticism because all we are trying to do, largely is

1652
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 7: do right by these athletes, but also talk about what

1653
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 7: we see. So when Tom aspinall beat Sergey Pavlovich and

1654
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 7: Tom ain't following me on any social channels, when he

1655
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 7: takes the time to write me a message that says, hey,

1656
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 7: I just want to thank you for all the hard

1657
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 7: work and shining a positive light on the fighters all week,

1658
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 7: it meant a lot to me and my team. That's

1659
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 7: really all I'm looking for, you know, And I think

1660
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 7: this is sort of the other end of the spectrum,

1661
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 7: and I will have a conversation with the King of

1662
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 7: Combat Chris Curtis, who is one of my favorite fighters.

1663
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 7: But I just was surprised that he was so animated

1664
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 7: and so upset with dom after what I thought was

1665
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 7: a farly innocuous comment. But I think some of it

1666
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 7: had to do with just the way the fans ingested

1667
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 7: and responded to that fight go ahead. But also too

1668
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 7: so Chris Curtis might just have a lot of John

1669
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 7: Anakin and where you get a hot mic in front

1670
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 7: of him and he likes run his mouth a little bit. Yeah,

1671
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 7: So real quick, before we get on out of here,

1672
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 7: I just have a gift to present to Jay, in

1673
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 7: part because you've just done a lot of work on

1674
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 7: behalf of Anakin Floria in LLC. But when Jay calls

1675
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 7: my cell phone, the song that plays is You're as

1676
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 7: cold as Ice or whatever the fuck right, because he

1677
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 7: historically when we share an account like you have not

1678
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 7: been been good, right, but in terms of sports gambling,

1679
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 7: in terms of sports gambling, he has not been good right.

1680
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: So cold as ice, right.

1681
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 7: But he's coming off an NFL season in which he

1682
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 7: just absolutely crushed the board, So this gift isn't as topical.

1683
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 7: But I bought it on Barstool Sports. I got you

1684
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 7: your own mister Ice sweatshirt. I thought it was going

1685
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 7: to be a bag of cash. What's up, fat? But

1686
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 7: that's all right?

1687
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't they have baby playing right now? We should?

1688
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1689
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: Right, no hedge, no hedge on the sleeve. I like it. Yeah,

1690
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 2: it says no hedge on the sleeve.

1691
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 7: You can buy it at barstool Sports cos I gotta

1692
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 7: get up barstool Sports. I have a good fit for

1693
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 7: me over there. That'd be a great fit for you.

1694
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 7: But mister Ice, I know some people say you're the Jaguar.

1695
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 7: Whatever the fuck, But mister Ice, there's your sweatshirt. Shrink

1696
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 7: it and enjoy it.

1697
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 2: Cut the sleeves off, kit cut.

1698
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah all right.

1699
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 7: Thank you to our guest today, Eric, Nick Sick, Danny Rubinstein.

1700
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 7: Did we have any other guests? You forget my boy?

1701
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 7: How do you forget my boy? It was a long

1702
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 7: time ago. Uh wow, remember the name Muhammad. Hopefully he

1703
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Speaker 7: gets the announcement on his title fight in the not

1704
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Speaker 7: too distant future. Thanks to Blow to Nick Sick, to

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Speaker 7: show with Jason and Blal coming up on Thursday on

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Speaker 4: Right?

1716
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Speaker 2: Like, you know, I go down this rabbit hole.

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Speaker 7: August Integrated Defense one of my favorite follows on Instagram,

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like a sister company if you will. Okay, yeah,

1720
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Speaker 2: all right, all right, don't worry. It's not like anf

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Speaker 2: all right, all right.

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Speaker 7: Thanks to our executive producer, Cody the Maestro Bone Marrow

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01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 7: putting it all together. Hope you guys enjoyed the content

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01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 7: this week. If you did miss or exclusive with Dracs

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01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 7: du plus C, you can watch that right now on

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01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 7: the DraftKings YouTube channel.

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01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 2: And we're canniball coming right back at you.

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01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 7: This coming Monday, we will preview the next UFC fight night,

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01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 7: Roman Delieds and Notsordini mob Off coming up February third

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01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 7: from the UFC Apex. Also, don't forget, we will have

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01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 7: our next watch party the following weekend, on the eve

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01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 7: of the Super Bowl on February tenth. With that, for

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01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 7: Keem Flow, for Jason Annac, I'm Johnny, and thank you

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01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 7: all for watching, for listening.

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01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 2: Tell your friends, tell your mom. We'll talk to you

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01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:11,719
Speaker 2: next Monday.

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01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 10: Until then, you'll fucking bread.

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01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: He's gone red road.

1739
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 2: This need the soul to the bread.

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01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: He's gone red.

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01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 4: He's gone red.

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01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 5: Lad press do the mess that you can't keep your

1743
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 5: hands on the bout here the open.

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01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 2: He's gone red.

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01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: He's gone

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Speaker 2: Yeah,