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Speaker 1: the Texans. Can you believe it, Richie, We are sitting

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Speaker 1: here week fifteen of the NFL season.

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Speaker 2: It is awesome. It is awesome. This NFL season is

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Speaker 2: so much better than last year's. I was a little

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Speaker 2: reflective driving up here to La to our Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: point in the season, we were so tired of some

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Speaker 2: of these matchups, especially the games that didn't really have

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Speaker 2: a lot riding on them. And it was mainly because

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Speaker 2: there were so many backup quarterbacks playing. Last season, there

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Speaker 2: were injuries all over the league. Starting quarterbacks couldn't stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: We've had a little bit of that this year, but

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Speaker 2: no more than normal. Last year was this aberration, and

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Speaker 2: it really led to like a pretty confusing feeling about

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Speaker 2: the regular season. The postseason panned out as it always does,

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I would sort of agree with you,

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Speaker 1: but again, let's look at these seven games we got

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Speaker 1: right now. How many of these games are dynamic matchups?

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Speaker 1: Chiefs at the Browns, No. Bengals and the Titans, Commanders

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Speaker 1: only game where you can actual at least say both

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Speaker 1: and the Dolphins obviously need help. They're sitting at six

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Speaker 1: you know, it's wow, I mean wow, I mean, Colts Broncos,

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Speaker 1: there are some dynamic games, but I'm not gonna lie

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Speaker 1: to you that we've got some dynamic playoff matchups going

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Speaker 2: And that is the way it goes. In the end

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Speaker 2: You know, I guess you can make an argument like

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Speaker 2: But there's also those games that are already the postseason,

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Speaker 2: like that whole afternoon slate and our evening game we're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, huge matchups later this afternoon one of the games.

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Speaker 1: So we have to choose, like which games we want

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Speaker 1: The curiosity factor to me continues like, Okay, is Aaron

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Speaker 1: ball first. By the way, one thing I want to

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Speaker 1: And I did vote genty one. I had Huntered two

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Speaker 2: So I agree with you, But Boise State did the

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Speaker 2: by the way he played through some injuries this season,

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Speaker 2: I remember he kind of limped into the San Diego

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. If you would have broken Barry

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Speaker 2: if not likely, that he would have won the Heisman.

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Speaker 2: I will say this about Travis Hunter, though we haven't

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Speaker 1: He's a sensation. Well he is a sensation, and he

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Speaker 2: If he wants to play both ways at the NFL level,

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Speaker 2: the abuse of the NFL. This is seventy to eighty

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Speaker 2: and keep on running like this is a very different ask,

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Speaker 2: He's just not the NFL. No team is going to

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Speaker 1: It's idiotic. If his agent, or his family.

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Speaker 2: Or his manager or whoever's around him has any sense,

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Speaker 2: the NFL, you won the Heisman. You did it, buddy,

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Speaker 2: You climb the mountaintop. When you get to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: You could maybe that in spots, but you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, but he may say, don't draft

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Speaker 1: By the way, the worst twelve to one team of

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Speaker 1: By the way, not the problem. Paula just got him

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Speaker 3: What would the Bengals record need to be for you

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Speaker 3: guys to say Joe Burrow is the best quarterback in football?

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Speaker 2: That's a great question. I frankly think he's playing like

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Speaker 3: I think if the Bengals were five hundred, we'd be

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Speaker 2: So Josh Allen and the Bills are having an insanely

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Speaker 1: So his value is not represented in the the outcomes.

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Speaker 1: in to a four seed already. They have a two

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Speaker 1: game laid over the Colts. Of course, the collapse of

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars this year certainly helped the Texans, and then

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Speaker 1: they're not going to catch the Steelers, They're not going

436
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Speaker 1: to catch the Chiefs, they're not going to catch the Bills.

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Speaker 1: So they're locked into essentially that four seed, which means,

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Speaker 1: of course they're going to be hosting the five seed,

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Speaker 1: which at this point would be the Ravens. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens on the road against the Texans. Which way

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Speaker 1: would you lean in a playoff matchup like.

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Speaker 2: That I think would be favored high six, probably probably

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Speaker 2: in the leg.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's find out what is trending right now?

445
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Speaker 1: Is uh Montzi came in hot today, rich hot, so

446
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Speaker 1: she's feisty on a Sunday. So yesterday we did four

447
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Speaker 1: hours yesterday on the show, and we get down the

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Speaker 1: final segment, which is our picks. And the way it

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Speaker 1: works is Patrick, our producer, randomly picks three games. We

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Speaker 1: have no idea in advance which games he's going to pick,

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Speaker 1: but we use like a Stableford system. Okay, we go

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Speaker 1: points not you know, what's your one loss record, So

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Speaker 1: you get one point for picking the winner right, and

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Speaker 1: then you get one point if you have a sort

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Speaker 1: of a what do we call it a wild card

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Speaker 1: buld pick, a bold pick. So if you have like

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Speaker 1: a bold pick, some outrageous thing that they prediction, a

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Speaker 1: bold prediction. But here's the tricky one over under. If

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Speaker 1: you dare venture into the over under pick, you get

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Speaker 1: a point if you get it right, but you lose

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Speaker 1: a point if you get it wrong. So why why

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Speaker 1: on totals are you guys being extra punitive? Well here's

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Speaker 1: the problem. Going to make it fun, we found out

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Speaker 1: that Patrick who has many, many talents as a great

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Speaker 1: young producer, has one thing he cannot do, and that's ad.

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Speaker 6: And that's ad.

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Speaker 1: He has literally the total inability to add numbers and

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Speaker 1: wait to say so you guys, So she was like

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Speaker 1: she was, she was got all over him about I

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Speaker 1: think you Canada points wrong last week.

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Speaker 2: So you guys built out a system and your official

472
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Speaker 2: scorekeeper and it requires some math a week and your

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Speaker 2: official scorekeeper you find out fifteen weeks into the NFL

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Speaker 2: season can't count.

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Speaker 6: Well, we think this.

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Speaker 7: We've kind of been like, I don't know if that's right,

477
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Speaker 7: like every week, like you know that's right, and it is,

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Speaker 7: you know, Steve and I haven't written down our picks

479
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Speaker 7: because we think someone else is writing them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be the producer, would be the producer.

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Speaker 8: And so yesterday, yes, and I was like this is wrong,

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Speaker 8: and I was I was right.

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Speaker 1: I review the tape. She came in hot today saying

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Speaker 1: he was wrong.

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Speaker 6: Thanks, thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's okay. But that's all right under the bus here.

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Speaker 1: So now Sunday morning, I'll tell you what she got

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Speaker 1: right as usual, Wance, he's under the bus.

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Speaker 3: Where's Patrick?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows.

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Speaker 2: To First of all, we we we're like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: poor Patrick, he's at homegoing I can I.

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Speaker 6: Can tell yeah, no, he's not listening.

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Speaker 8: He's fine.

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Speaker 1: He's probably sleeping. He's nursing. By the way, once again,

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Speaker 1: Rich he must two fists. I always see him pick

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Speaker 1: up the first burrito, like pick it up. I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you go. And then I look back and it's like, but.

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Speaker 2: Those burridos are small, Steve, and that's I got to

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Speaker 2: by burrito. I'm pretty sure that's the way they're advertised

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Speaker 2: on the Taco bell menu.

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Speaker 1: It's right, you're right. Oh check out her two by burritos.

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Speaker 1: You're tall on limited Sundays.

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Speaker 9: Ah, I feel as the Titans have taken the lead.

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Speaker 8: They called the a pass interference against Cam Taylor Cam

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Speaker 8: Taylor britt from the Bengals, putting the Titans on the

508
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Speaker 8: two yard line. They took advantage Tajay Spears in the

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Speaker 8: end zone. So the Titans are now beating the Bengals

510
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Speaker 8: fourteen to seven, four minutes to go in the first

511
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Speaker 8: Chiefs still holding onto that touchdown that started the game

512
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Speaker 8: off with Patrick Mahomes connecting with Juju Smith Schuster, so

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Speaker 8: they're still up on the Brown seven zero, less than

514
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Speaker 8: two minutes to go in the first, Commanders still on

515
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Speaker 8: top of the Saint Jaden Daniels connected earlier today with

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Speaker 8: Terry McLaurin which I love for my fantasy purposes seven

517
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Speaker 8: zero Commanders.

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Speaker 6: Up late in the first. The Ravens. Yes, they're on

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Speaker 6: the scoreboard.

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Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson connecting with Mark Andrews. He officially has the.

521
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Speaker 9: Most touchdowns in Ravens franchise history.

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Speaker 8: Mark Andrews forty eights, are passing Jamal Lewis. They're beating

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Speaker 8: the Giants seven zero after the first quarter. Cowboys Panthers

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Speaker 8: scoreless after the first. The Jets and the Jags are

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Speaker 8: tied at seven. Mac Jones connected with Brian Thomas Junior.

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Speaker 6: Then Aaron Rodgers connected with Garrett Wilson for a twenty.

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Speaker 9: Two yard touchdown pass to tie the game.

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Speaker 8: The Texans holding on to their slight lead over the

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Speaker 8: Dolphins three zero after the first quarter. Other news in sports,

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Speaker 8: Dodgers first baseman Freddy Freeman's walk off Grand Slam Ball

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Speaker 8: of Game one sold for one point five to.

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Speaker 6: Six million, No way, one point five to six million.

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Speaker 8: It's the third most expensive baseball ever sold. Behind Shoheo

534
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Speaker 8: Tani's fifty to fifty home run ball that went for

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Speaker 8: a four point three nine to two and Mark McGuire's

536
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Speaker 8: seventieth home run ball, which sold for roughly three million

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Speaker 8: in nineteen ninety nine and then became worthless when yeah,

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Speaker 8: and then of course became worthless when Barry Bonds broke

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Speaker 8: his record three years later, right right, right, right, So yeah,

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Speaker 8: Freddy Freeman walk off Grand Slam one point five to

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Speaker 8: six million back to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember at the time when when McGuire hit

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Speaker 1: his seventieth home run, Remember the riker was sixty one,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, he just got to seventy. I mean

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Speaker 1: that record will last forever. I mean it was ever

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Speaker 1: going to hit seven. Three years later, Barry Bond juiced

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Speaker 1: out of his mind. Seventy three home runs, no problem?

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Speaker 1: Why not again?

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Speaker 3: Mark?

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Speaker 1: However, super clean, super clean, and he was clean.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I will say this love sports, jews, grape juice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what I meant when I will do

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Speaker 1: I mean, like.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever seen a rookie card of Mark McGuire

556
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Speaker 3: on the A's compared it with he was a lot

557
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Speaker 3: skinnier cardinals tall on skates very interesting.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it looks like I still remember the this is

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Speaker 10: Sports Center commercial where it's like the white It's the

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Speaker 10: Y two K commercial, and it very famously features Mark

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Speaker 10: McGuire and what is an apparent vroid rage smashing the

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Speaker 10: telephones with a baseball bat, long before we knew.

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Speaker 1: But they knew, oh they knew. Oh well, guys, guys, guys.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I was there in nineteen ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: you know the Padre. I was in San Diego. Padres

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Speaker 1: went to the World Series that year. I remember the

567
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Speaker 1: Cardinals coming into San Diego, and I had been around

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Speaker 1: McGuire early in his career, so I knew what he

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Speaker 1: looked like. Then. One of the things he did was

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Speaker 1: he would wear this oversized jersey almost as camouflage. But

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Speaker 1: when he would take the jersey off, I mean literally

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Speaker 1: his arms look like legs.

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Speaker 2: And it was like, you know, they should do they

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Speaker 2: should take Mark McGuire and Barry Bond's car. I would

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Speaker 2: buy this card if they had like one side, one angle,

576
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: you look at it, it's their rookie picture, and then

577
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: the next angle like it's a hologram. And so I

578
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: was fantastic for any player as you told it. You

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Speaker 2: see them, you see them in their finals.

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Speaker 1: Guys, I am telling it. It was unreal. Mean Barry Bonds,

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Speaker 1: somehow his skull grew well, no, his his shoe side

582
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Speaker 1: went from ten and a half to thirteen. Barry Bond's shoes,

583
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Speaker 1: his feet. Human growth hormone works. It does human growth

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Speaker 1: hormone actually work. So you're saying it's not just like

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Speaker 1: a c that's not normal for a thirty something to

586
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Speaker 1: have his shoe size go up two sizes. You know

587
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: this very well? What else, crew, what else grew for him? Yeah? Exactly?

588
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: Not everything, that's for sure. All right. So hey, I

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Speaker 1: have a question for you, rich Devondre Campbell. Would you

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Speaker 1: want him as a teammate.

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Speaker 2: No, we spoke about this a little bit yesterday on

592
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Speaker 2: countdown to kickoff. Devondre Campbell should be super embarrassed. Now listen,

593
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Speaker 2: I said this yesterday, and so I'll be briefer here today. Look,

594
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Speaker 2: this league is made up of young men. I know

595
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: he's played for a little while, and I understand that

596
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Speaker 2: when you.

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Speaker 1: Look played for four teams, he's a veteran. When you

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Speaker 1: look at a guy who's I think he's thirty, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you say like, oh, he should know better.

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Speaker 2: You're still You're still in a locker room. It's like

601
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: being in neverland. You never have to grow up in

602
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Speaker 2: a locker room. And some of the lessons that you

603
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: learn along the way, they're more sticky than others. I

604
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: guess somehow he never learned the lesson of hey, it's

605
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: not all about you. It can't be all about you

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Speaker 2: every day. Like I don't know if it's because he

607
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: hasn't played in with enough competitive franchise, is because he

608
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Speaker 2: spends some time with the Atlanta Falcons before green Bay,

609
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: and then now he comes over to tom.

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Speaker 1: He's signed a deal and he was going to be

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Speaker 1: sort of a fill in guy for the year until

612
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: Greenlaw got back, and it looked like a good deal

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Speaker 1: for him because he's, you know, going to a team

614
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: that just been to the Super Well, he started all year.

615
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: The guy he replaced came back and they knew going

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Speaker 1: in he was gonna have limited times. You know. Again,

617
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: the season has gotten away from the forty nine ers,

618
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Speaker 1: but his idea that he doesn't want to enter the

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Speaker 1: game and that somehow he's forcing his release so he

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Speaker 1: could actually join a team that is in playoff contention.

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Speaker 1: If you had a team that was in playoff contention,

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Speaker 1: would you sign this guy?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, listen. I hope he learns his lesson.

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Speaker 2: I hope this guy gets another opportunity, if he's remorseful

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00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: and has an opportunity to make this right, because I

627
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Speaker 2: don't know if he's a good guy or bad guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know deve Andre personally, but I do know

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Speaker 2: that everybody makes mistakes. I know that some mistakes are

630
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: you know. Look, it doesn't matter how sar you are,

631
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Speaker 2: you can't come back from them. This doesn't feel like

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00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: one of them. This feels like a awful storyline. It's

633
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: horribly embarrassing. If I were a Devondre today. I hope

634
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: he's feeling mortified with his behavior, his teammates, and again

635
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: the type of teammates he has there. You're talking about

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Speaker 2: Tavarrius Ward, who dealt with the losing a child this year.

637
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: You're talking about Trent Williams who lost a child at

638
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: birth with him and his wife were going through that.

639
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: He's injured, trying to fight his ass to get off

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00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: to the back to the field. You have Ricky Piersoll

641
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: who shot in the chest to start the season, did

642
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: everything he could to get on the field, and that

643
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: very same field that all these guys who have experienced

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00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: worse things than you this season deve Andre, they're they're

645
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: fighting their ass off to get back out there, or

646
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: have to get back out there and fight their for

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Speaker 2: their brothers.

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Speaker 1: You're going to take up.

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Speaker 2: An active body roster spot on the sideline to refuse

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Speaker 2: to go in when somebody gets injured.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was a point a lot of his teammates

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Speaker 1: said after the game, like if you had no intention

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Speaker 1: of playing, why did you suit up?

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Speaker 2: Just just just show up, say hey, I can't go today,

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Speaker 2: I need a mental day.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it is, whatever is dting you. You got a

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Speaker 1: uniform on, you're expected to play. That's onely.

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Speaker 3: It looks like Jay Glazer this morning on Fox reported

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Speaker 3: that John Lynch confronted him walking off the field and

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Speaker 3: like you know that they were upset about that, and

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers are going to try to give

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Speaker 3: him the max suspension so they don't have to release him.

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Speaker 1: Basically, it sounds like, well they release him, they have

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Speaker 1: to pay off the rest of his colle It.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like they don't want to release him because the

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Speaker 3: don't want him to join another team as a reward

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Speaker 3: for what he did in that game.

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Speaker 2: And good again, John Lynch, Good for the Niners, because

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Speaker 2: some some lessons need to be harder, harder learned than others.

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Speaker 2: And I hope they find them whatever they're allowed to

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Speaker 2: find them. I hope they suspend them whatever they're allowed

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Speaker 2: to suspend them. And I'm honest when I say this.

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad at the guy. I mean, look, I

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Speaker 2: don't have a dog in the fight. All I hope

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Speaker 2: is that he learns from this because this was id.

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Speaker 2: This is like potentially career ending stuff, and if his

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Speaker 2: talent outweighs the blunder, then maybe he'll get another shot.

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Speaker 1: And if he's remorseful, then more power to him.

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Speaker 3: There's a difference between refusing to play and then what

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Speaker 3: the Bill's player a few years ago that just retired

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Speaker 3: mid game. Oh yeah, there's a difference between that because

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Speaker 3: at least he's like, I just don't want to play.

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Speaker 1: For Antonio Brown. Oh yeah, was that too? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: mean I think there's he took his jersey off. I mean, TODYO.

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Speaker 1: Brown didn't know he was retiring, Yeah, but he was.

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Speaker 1: I'm at Bill's corner and then Blake on his name too.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he actually did retire. He was like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, yeah, yeah, gang, that's that's a rock, right,

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Speaker 1: all right, yes, yeah, all right. We'll continue on here, folks.

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Speaker 1: We had seven games going on. We're already into second

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Speaker 1: quarters around the National Football League, Week fifteen. Can you

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Speaker 1: believe it? We got all the latest for you. This

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Speaker 1: is Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 4: Second down, Gips Spears, who goes.

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Speaker 2: Over the top, old school stretches.

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Speaker 12: The ball, touchdown title Taji.

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Speaker 1: Spears on the flying Wage. That's Wgfax one of four

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Speaker 1: point five Titans Radio network. Titans lead the Bengals fourteen

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Speaker 1: to seven. They just had a strip sack of Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: so they have the ball once again. Break up the

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Speaker 1: Titans as they have that fourteen to seven lead just

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Speaker 1: the start of the second quarter there in Tennessee. Once again,

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Speaker 1: this is Red Zone Radio Steve Hartman and Rich Ornberger.

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Speaker 1: We are live from the tire Rack dot Com studio.

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Speaker 1: So I mentioned fourteen to seven Titans over the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: She still have that seven to nothing lead over the Browns.

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Speaker 1: These are all mid to late or early second quarter scores.

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Speaker 1: Commanders lead the Saints seven nothing Ravens over the Giants

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Speaker 1: fourteen nothing. I'll get back to that game in a second.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have taken a sevennah lead on the road against

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Speaker 1: the Panthers, Jets and Jaguars tied at seven, Dolphins and

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Speaker 1: Texans tied at three. Rich The Giants are not just

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Speaker 1: two and eleven, tied with the Raiders for the worst

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Speaker 1: record in the NFL. Owen seven at home and down

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Speaker 1: in a fourteen nothing hole already to the Ravens. Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson is seven for seven, one hundred and seventy yards

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Speaker 1: and two touchdown. Tommy Devino back in a quarterback for

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Speaker 1: the Giants as miserable as Drew Locke was, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no difference there. Actually as miserable as all their

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks have been this year. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: franchise that actually has four Super Bowls wins on their

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Speaker 1: resume over the years, the Giants, and they're on their

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Speaker 1: way to an OH to eight home start. So I

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Speaker 1: didn't get much worse than that. Can they recover Brian Dable?

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Speaker 1: For some reason, Brian Dable is still there and there

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Speaker 1: isn't like this overwhelming talk that Dable is going to

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Speaker 1: be replaced now, that would seem strange considering how far

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Speaker 1: this team has fallen from being a playoff team two

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Speaker 1: years ago, even won a road the Layouf game.

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Speaker 2: What's the rush though, I mean, in this situation, he's

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Speaker 2: still under contract for a couple of years. Like in

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Speaker 2: the Dallas situation. I keep saying, why is Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: still there? Because this is ridiculous. The season's over, fire McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: Let him get started interviewing for whatever job he wants next.

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Speaker 2: Let the Dallas Cowboys move on and start kicking the

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Speaker 2: tires on candidates, you know, have their staff meet with

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Speaker 2: agents and things like that, whatever's legal. At this time,

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Speaker 2: this doesn't make sense because Mike McCarthy is on an

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Speaker 2: expiring deal.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm not so much talking about firing him

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Speaker 1: with four games left. But if you Brian Dable, whose

742
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Speaker 1: hype was built by his mentoring of Josh Allen in Buffalo. Sure,

743
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Speaker 1: and then obviously early on the Daniel Jones looked like

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Speaker 1: he was making progress at quarterback and then the wheels

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Speaker 1: fell off. But if Brian Dable, known as the quarterback Whisperer,

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Speaker 1: and you gave him a fresh start with a quarterback

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Speaker 1: like Shador Sanders. Who that makes sense because we talked

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Speaker 1: about last week. If you're the Giants or you're the

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Speaker 1: Raiders and you have the number one overall pick, both

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Speaker 1: teams need a quarterback, it's got to be a double higher.

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Speaker 1: It's Shadoor Sanders and beon Sanders right right.

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Speaker 2: It sort of feels like this to me with Brian

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Speaker 2: day Bole. Either there is a belief that if he

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Speaker 2: sticks around, he can groom the next quarterback and do

755
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Speaker 2: the same thing essentially did with with Josh Allen, or

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Speaker 2: it's it's again going back to the original point I made,

757
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Speaker 2: like what's the rush. We're gonna live out the rest

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Speaker 2: of this year. We're going to convene as the staff.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna make a decision. My guess. My guess right now,

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Speaker 2: blind guess is day Ball isn't going to continue to

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Speaker 2: be the head coach there, and it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a very attract attractive job the New York Giants. First

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Speaker 2: of all, maybe one of only seven or eight openings,

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Speaker 2: who knows, second of all market one in the country

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Speaker 2: with a brand new quarterback coming in in the draft, Like,

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Speaker 2: it's a pretty attractive job.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think the.

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Speaker 2: Giants are going to have a hard time hiring anybody

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Speaker 2: or getting top talent if they want it at the

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Speaker 2: coaching position.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to have their pick of the litter,

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Speaker 1: all right. I don't want to spend all day on Belichick,

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Speaker 1: but I want to sneak in a quick thought here.

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Speaker 1: So Belichick, in this deal that he signed with North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: has a one million dollar buyout in his contract, meaning

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Speaker 1: he can get out of that contract. Is it conceivable

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Speaker 1: that he never actually coaches at North Carolina. Yes, that

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Speaker 1: some team will offer him an NFL job immediately in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five and he'll opt out of that deal

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Speaker 1: and never actually coach a day at a place that

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Speaker 1: he's called his dream job right at North Carolina. Yes, yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you one hundred percent on that. Like, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to belabor this, but this seems strange in

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Speaker 1: that deal where he has a one million dollar baio,

785
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Speaker 1: which is like nothing these days, that he may never

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Speaker 1: actually coach a game at North Carolina if he gets

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Speaker 1: a job in the NFL. Much more coming up here

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Speaker 1: on Red Zone Radio, rolling on on this fully loaded

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Speaker 1: All right, A couple of updates right now. The Giants scored. Hello, okay,

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Speaker 1: the Giants scored. So on rapid fire yesterday, I took

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Speaker 1: the the over on the Army Navy game, and I

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Speaker 1: took Navy with the points those two hit.

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Speaker 2: We do three rapid fire bets here on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio every so start two for two. What's your third

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Speaker 2: on countdown and kickoff? My third is the Giants just

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Speaker 2: need to not get beat by million. I took the

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Speaker 2: Giants plus sixteen sixteen. It's the biggest problem at home.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's embarrassing. All right. Well, there's a much

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Speaker 1: more significant game coming up a little bit later on

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Speaker 1: today is the Eagles will host the Pittsburgh Steelers and

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Speaker 1: join us right now. He's the best of the best,

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Speaker 1: and we always say happy to have him on our show.

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Speaker 1: The great Tom Ronaldi will be at that game. So

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Speaker 1: Thomas has always appreciate your time. Pittsburgh's a little banged

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Speaker 1: up in this game right now. But I want to

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Speaker 1: flip over to the Eagles because we've had a lot

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Speaker 1: of talk about Jalen Hurts that he might be the

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Speaker 1: weak link in this Eagles team, which is a far

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Speaker 1: cry from after his performance at the super Bowl. If

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Speaker 1: it hadn't been for a Fluke fumble, he would have

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Speaker 1: walked away a super Bowl champion perhaps and certainly the

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Speaker 1: best quarterback on the field that day. What's the buzz

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Speaker 1: around the Eagles around Philadelphia right now about Jalen Hurts?

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Speaker 1: Who numbers? Have he evenly stalled from where we thought

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Speaker 1: he was going to be a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 11: Well, great to be with you guys. And by the way,

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Speaker 11: that plus sixteen if that is not the largest bread

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Speaker 11: of in recent memory at home, I don't know what

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Speaker 11: it is. We're going to get our crack research team

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Speaker 11: on that. This is a much tighter affair as we do.

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Speaker 11: And listen, we also know this about Philadelphia. You know,

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Speaker 11: it's my college town. They love negative. They can't deal

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Speaker 11: with prosperity. They have to find static consension somewhere, and

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Speaker 11: they found it this week. And let's not overlook nor

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Speaker 11: undervalue the ultimate metric for a quarterback, guys, and that's winning.

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Speaker 11: And that's exactly what Jalen Hurts has done. You can

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Speaker 11: take a look at the numbers that suggest the passing

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Speaker 11: game has plummeted. His efficiency has some strange metrics that

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Speaker 11: surround when the pocket is clean and when he chooses

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Speaker 11: to scramble. With all of that said, with sa Quan there,

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Speaker 11: with Kellen Moore having subjugated the offense and built it

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Speaker 11: around the rushing attack, they just continue to win. And

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Speaker 11: I listen, you hate to think of how negative would

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Speaker 11: be if they were losing when they were two and two.

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Speaker 11: We know that feels like a distant memory right.

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Speaker 1: Now, all right, who do you trust more?

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Speaker 2: And I know, look, you may want to play this

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Speaker 2: more down the middle, so maybe you can help our

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Speaker 2: listening audience and frankly me as well. Way these two

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Speaker 2: things that are at odds with each other in my head,

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Speaker 2: who do you trust more? Jalen Hurts and the Eagles

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Speaker 2: or Russell Wilson and the Steelers right now, because both

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Speaker 2: of these starlins are so nice.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, listen to this. This is this is such an

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Speaker 11: unsatisfying response. May I answer at seven thirty Eastern times?

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Speaker 11: Can I call back in and give you the truth

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Speaker 11: that I say that is not to just be cut cowardly,

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Speaker 11: which I can be, but it's because of the significant

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Speaker 11: increase in ability the uptick that Wilson is going to

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Speaker 11: face here. They have beaten a couple of quality teams

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Speaker 11: during this run with Russell, but if you take a

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Speaker 11: look at the schedule, guys, it bears out they have

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Speaker 11: played some weaker teams and some weaker defenses, and Wilson

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Speaker 11: has thrived with that, in particular with the explosive plays,

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Speaker 11: with the moonballs that he throws so effectively, and I

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Speaker 11: think with using a lot of savvy that comes with

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Speaker 11: his veteran experience. But this is a different feast. He's

863
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Speaker 11: playing a team that can really really defend and be

864
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 11: sticky in the back end. As we know they have

865
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 11: a very significant pass rush up front. We know those

866
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 11: dudes in the middle are a real problem. And if

867
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 11: they can't get the run game established as well as

868
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 11: they have been against some weaker units in the interior,

869
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 11: then we're gonna see Russell Wilson challenged and all of

870
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 11: that without George Picketts, So we'll see what he's able

871
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 11: to do. I think that's a a to be determined answer.

872
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: To be honest, Tom, Eric Dickerson and I have been

873
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: dear friends for many, many, many many years, and I

874
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: had him on my radio show last week and we

875
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: were talking about SMU obviously getting into the college football playoff,

876
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: but we also asked him about whether or not he

877
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: would be upset if sakwon Barkley with one additional game

878
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: where to break a single season record. He said this,

879
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: He says, Look, I'm not going to hold him about

880
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: that one extra game because I had two extra games

881
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: to beat OJ's record back in nineteen eighty four when

882
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: he did it in a fourteen game season. Of course

883
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: he did in sixteen games, but he made one thing

884
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: infinitely clear. I don't want anyone to break my record.

885
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: He's had that record for forty years. It's going to

886
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: be a tough test against that Steeler team today. But

887
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: if he's in a position to break that record, is

888
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: that something that the Eagles are hell bent to help

889
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: him get over the finish line? And how important is

890
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: that record for the Eagles organization.

891
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 11: I think it's really important, And talking to SA Kwan

892
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 11: in our meetings this week. You just have to appreciate

893
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 11: his honesty and obviously you have to be happy for

894
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 11: him and the success that he's found here with this

895
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 11: incredible offensive lineup front, with the offensive revolves around him

896
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 11: on machhing him to do what he can do. One

897
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 11: of the things we really appreciated that he shared guys

898
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 11: was he has to embrace it. You can't hide from it,

899
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 11: he said, even if I didn't want to look, it's

900
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 11: everywhere on social media. The tallies are there. How many

901
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 11: more yards are needed, how many yards per game are needed?

902
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 11: Breaking down the pace all along, and he talked about

903
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 11: the fact that if you want to be great and

904
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 11: achieve great things, you have to go after them directly.

905
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 11: And while what's most important, of course is winning games,

906
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 11: he understands this record. Here's a guy who came to

907
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 11: the Eagles and initially spent time looking at YouTube Wilbert

908
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 11: Montgomery because he felt he didn't know enough about a

909
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 11: former Eagle great at the position. That tells you a

910
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 11: lot about what this record does mean to say, Kwan Barkley, Hey, Tom.

911
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: You've watched a ton of football.

912
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: I just have one question on Heisman winner Travis Hunter.

913
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: The next level is coming for him. Now we'll see

914
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: him in the NFL. Is it possible for a player

915
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: to play both ways in today's game at the positions

916
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: that he played in college.

917
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 11: I'm just not a fan of the word impossible, because

918
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 11: we've been one of the reasons we watched sport is

919
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 11: to see that word violated over and over. It's what

920
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 11: captivates is It's what's so wondrous about and that we

921
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 11: find so inspiring about what we see on Saturdays at Sundays.

922
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 11: I think if you speak to a far more informed

923
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 11: and experienced front office person or a veteran coach, they

924
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 11: would really cast doubt that it could be done. That

925
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 11: so much about it is so challenging, and yet who

926
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 11: could have foreseen some of the other absolute groundbreakers that

927
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 11: we've seen, Who could have foreseen what Bo Jackson or

928
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 11: Prime were able to do. So when you look at

929
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 11: athletes of that special stripe, that unique ability, I can't

930
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 11: doubt the guy I am Sun guys at the number

931
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 11: of snaps and that per snap per game snap average

932
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 11: dropped because he was heard. I mean at one point

933
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 11: he was averaging one hundred and twenty I think one

934
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 11: hundred and twenty seven snaps the game out of that's unbelievable.

935
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 11: And to consider it that he was absolutely elite on

936
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 11: both sides. I think it'll be fascinating to see where

937
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 11: he goes and how the team uses him.

938
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: All right, well, Tommy, you might be part of history today.

939
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: The last time the Steelers won in Philadelphia was October

940
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, nineteen sixty five. Is that true? That is

941
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: they've lost ten games in a row in Philadelphia. Obviously

942
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: different conferences, they don't play a lot, but the last

943
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: time the Steelers won in Philadelphia October twenty fourth, nineteen

944
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: sixty five. So tom you could be part of history.

945
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: If the Steelers pull this off today.

946
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 11: We'll see it. Obviously, it's spanned decades, it spans three

947
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 11: different stadiums that the Eagles have played in. And I

948
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 11: also know on the other side, people are pointing toward

949
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 11: Russell Wilson, who has never lost here at the Lakes

950
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 11: or and own his career in Philly, but he does

951
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 11: not have the legion to do him behind him right now,

952
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 11: he doesn't have Some of those guys know that he

953
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 11: handed the ball and threw the ball to It's a

954
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 11: different time. I understand the fascination with streaks like that,

955
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 11: but at the end of the day, these are two

956
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 11: teams that are playing really, really well. There's a lot

957
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 11: at stake, certainly for the Steelers when you consider it

958
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 11: this three game gauntlet. Guys in a eleven days where

959
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 11: they played elite competition and they have to see how

960
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 11: they come out of it. This game really matters to them.

961
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: Well, Tom enjoyed the game. We'll enjoy watching you as always,

962
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: and we appreciate your Tom. We appreciate it every single time. Tom,

963
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: thanks so much, have a great game.

964
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 11: Thank you, guys, appreciate it all right.

965
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: Tom Rinaldi, Johnny us there again, that's a long time ago.

966
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: Heelers have not one game in Philadelphia since nineteen sixty five,

967
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: since the sixties sixty five, Buddy, I mean we're what

968
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: was that eighty years ago? No, it's not eighty years ago.

969
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: I was in second year of bat for me, all right.

970
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: That was fifty nine years fifty nine years ago, sixty

971
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, my gosh, I was in second grade.

972
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: Who was your second grade kindergarten or your second grade teacher,

973
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: missus Crosby. She loved me, all is that? Max's Grandma.

974
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: That's also where I had Laura Combs and Santa Carey

975
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: both grabbed me and kiss me. Okay, second grade girls.

976
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: Two girls actually physically accosted me and kissed me. They

977
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: wanted to kiss. Did you have them? Said to the

978
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: principal Stig, I was just I was frozen with fear.

979
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: Really quick. Who was the president at the time? LBJ?

980
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: Who was the senator? You grew up in California? But

981
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: who was the senator or the senators out of Texas

982
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: that year? The senators in Texas at that time, I

983
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: could tell you California was Thomas Keekele was one of

984
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: the senators. And the other senator in California at that

985
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: time who was at pre Krantz. It was Keekele, Yeah,

986
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: Tom Keekele, I remember him? How could we?

987
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 11: Oh?

988
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you it was. It was George Murphy. Oh,

989
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: George Murphy. I look it up. George Murphy who won

990
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: the Heisman that year. Mike Garrett, who is my son,

991
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: Garrett Hartman is named after us. He's ever by the way,

992
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: Mike was on stage yesterday at the Heisman ceremony. Good

993
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: to see him out. And really quick, who was in

994
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: second place voting that year. Well, that of course was

995
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: Howard Twilla, the wide receiver out of Telsa. You can look.

996
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: Jim Garbowski full back out of Illinois was number three.

997
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: Donnie Anderson Texas sex As. Four, Floyd Little of Syracusas. Five.

998
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: Do you have to go on? Steve Jay quarterback say six.

999
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: I could go on and on and on, but I won't.

1000
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: All right, coming up on the other side, we'll get

1001
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 1: you right back to the seven games we have going

1002
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: on in twenty twenty four. That's right, yeah, twenty twenty four.

1003
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: On this December fifteenth, this is Red Zone Radio.

1004
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 11: They play acts Robinson Dgels that looks fires over the

1005
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 11: edge one that one.

1006
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: Is called Terry McClory for the second time touchdown touchdown.

1007
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 6: Lochingon this is just an unbelievable prowl by Jaydon Daniel says, no.

1008
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Speaker 1: Other White takes playing this. That is big one hundred

1009
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Speaker 1: Commanders Radio network and the Commanders in a big game

1010
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: for them leading the Saints fourteen nothing on the road.

1011
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: By the way, Jayden Daniels fifteen of seventeen, one hundred

1012
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: and twenty seven yards and two touchdown passes. What a

1013
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: rookie season he has had once again. This is Red

1014
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: Zone Radio, Steve Harbin and Rich Ornberger with you. We

1015
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: are alive from the tyraq dot com studios. So running

1016
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: down the scores right now, Chiefs over the Browns fourteen

1017
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: noth then we got three to twenty two to go

1018
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: in the first half. There, Bengals and Titans are tied

1019
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: at fourteen two minute warning in the first half. There

1020
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: we mentioned the Commanders up fourteen out there over the

1021
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: Saints minute twenty one to go in the half, thirty

1022
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: two seconds left in the half, Ravens all over the

1023
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: Giants twenty one to seven, forty five seconds left in

1024
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: the half, and the Cowboys, well, they pelly well in

1025
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 1: the road this year, leading the Panthers ten nothing, Jaguars

1026
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: over the Jets ten to seven, ten seconds left to

1027
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: go in the half. By the way, the Jaguars also

1028
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: have a second goal right now at the Jets five

1029
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: yard line, and the Texans are leading the Dolphins ten

1030
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: to six. This is a much bigger game for the

1031
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: Dolphins than the Texans, as the Dolphins are trying to

1032
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: stay alive in the wild card chase. But we decided

1033
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: to choose that Jags Jets game is one of the

1034
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: games we're going to watch us to see is it

1035
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: possible that Aaron Roddys could lose to Mac Jones. You're

1036
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 1: ready for the Aaron Rodgers numbers. So with five seconds

1037
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: to go in the half, Aaron Rodgers against Jacksonville is

1038
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: three of eight passing for fifty five yards. Yikes, three

1039
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: of eight passing. In fact, they've only run seventeen offensive

1040
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: plays to the Jaguars forty three offensive plays in this half,

1041
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: eighteen to six first downs, time of possession twenty one

1042
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: minutes to nine in the favor of the Jaguars. Ooh boy.

1043
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: Here's what's interesting about this Jet season because I was

1044
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: unaware of this until about two weeks ago, and I'm

1045
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: sure a lot of people were caught off guard when

1046
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: all of a sudden the advertising for the Aaron Rodgers

1047
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 2: documentary came out on Netflix. Well, that's to be released

1048
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, So on the seventeenth of December, we're all

1049
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: going to be able to view what has been I

1050
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 2: guessed a year in the works. He maybe multiple years

1051
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 2: in the works. He was filming himself down the stretch

1052
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 2: of his Packers' career and then into some of the

1053
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: mental wellbeing retreats that he went on to get his

1054
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: brain right, you know, the ayahuasca retreats, some of the

1055
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: darkness retreats, some of those things. I guess he welcomed

1056
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: cameras into those situations.

1057
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: To follow along.

1058
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 2: I guess with the thought process that at some point

1059
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: he will eventually release it, and he has so he's

1060
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: going to release this on Netflix on the seventeenth and Steve,

1061
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: before we get this giant's update from Chris, what are

1062
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: your thoughts on this? Do you think this is going

1063
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: to change the minds and hearts of people around Aaron Rodgers.

1064
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 11: No.

1065
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers is one of those polarizing individuals

1066
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: where everyone has already made up their mind. I know

1067
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: I have. There's nothing he's going to do. Look, his

1068
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: legacy is set. I mean when four MVP Awards, He's

1069
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl winning quarterback, had a great career in

1070
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: Green Bay. What's happening with the Jets right now to

1071
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: me is not as surprise as you know. I am

1072
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: one that predicted nothing was going to be positive with

1073
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in a Jets uniform. I'm not going to

1074
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: take credit for that. Under the fact I'm seeing. I

1075
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: was so overwhelmed by how many people were absolutely convinced

1076
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: that somehow Aaron Rodgers was going to make the Jets

1077
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: a super Bowl contender. But I mean again, he's a

1078
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: self serving individual. This is what I talk about. Aaron

1079
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: Rodgers is an insane talent at quarterback. He's not a leader.

1080
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: He's just not a leader. You know, Patrick Mahomes, that's

1081
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: a leader. Josh Allen, that's a leader. These are guys

1082
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: that really encompass the idea of the leadership role that

1083
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: goes with being a quarterback. And Aaron Rodgers is not

1084
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: that person. He is a self serving individual, which is

1085
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: fine for him. It doesn't take away from what he

1086
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: has accomplished as an NFL quarterback. It's just who he is.

1087
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: And maybe furthering your point, he has a documentary coming

1088
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 2: out in a couple of days. I'm very curious how

1089
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: people are gonna feel about him and about that doc

1090
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 2: when it releases. As mentioned, I took the points in

1091
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: this Giants game. This Giants game, the Giants were dogged

1092
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: by sixteen points. There now trailing twenty one to seven.

1093
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 2: Chris Purfet, you have an update though, at halftime yes, we.

1094
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 10: Have a new quarterback. Tommy DeVito is being evaluated for concussion.

1095
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 10: It's a dark day, oh means the laser light show

1096
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 10: is back in town. Tim Boyle is under center for

1097
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 10: the g Man.

1098
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello a right by the way, Timmy Boyle Lamar

1099
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: Jackson thirteen of fourteen, one hundred and sixty two yards,

1100
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, no picks. He also has four carries for

1101
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: fifty five yards. I'm feeling pretty good about my chances here. Guys.

1102
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: Did you hear that it's Tim the thrill boil? Yeah? Quarterback?

1103
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: All right, kidding me well, Lamar Jackson.

1104
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: Tim Boyle was the I'm pretty sure it was the

1105
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: quarterback matchup we were all hoping for when we closed

1106
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 2: her eyes and thought about this. Giants Ravens tilt Week

1107
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: fifteen on the grid iron of the Metal Lands.

1108
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: Life Rejectors and led Zeppelin and everything due. I can't

1109
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 1: wait for the second half. Whoa yeah, final score, don't

1110
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: do it to me? Forty two to seven, body so

1111
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: the Brown's trailing two minute warning there at home against

1112
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Jamis Winston Remember ecxcitay everyone was when Winston

1113
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: beat the Steelers in the snow and it was like

1114
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: this resurrection was coming off of another big game h

1115
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: seven to thirteen, fifty two yards, no touchdowns and a

1116
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: pick in this game. So yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not

1117
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: the answer. I think this is this is this is

1118
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: really going to be interesting this year in this NFL

1119
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: draft because once again we get to the end of

1120
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: the year and you got five, you know, ten teams

1121
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: that really need a quarterback at least Yeah, and that's

1122
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: not this kind of draft. I mean, you've got Shador Sanders,

1123
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: cam War Again, this is a guy that started his

1124
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: career incarnate word, yes, you know, and all of a

1125
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: sudden had this one big year at the U. Is

1126
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: he really an NFL quarterback? Dylan Gabriel's five to eleven.

1127
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: He had to stop over at what Washington se He

1128
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: was at Washington State for two years, and then obviously

1129
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: you had Dylan Gabriel three years at Central Florida, two

1130
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:20,959
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma.

1131
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: Now this big year that he's had at Oregon's five

1132
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: foot eleven. And again it's hard to gauge these guys

1133
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: because they played so long in college. Dylan Gabriel, do

1134
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: you realize Dylan Gabriel is almost at twenty thousand yards

1135
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: passing in his college careers. But I like that, okay,

1136
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: And we've had this summer we talked about bo Nix

1137
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: and I was one of the reasons I really felt

1138
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: good about bow Nix as a rookie was that experience.

1139
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: But it also calls into question what the ceiling is.

1140
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: Have they already hit their peak?

1141
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: It's possible, But I will say this, nothing is stagnant

1142
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: in college football and the NFL. Like there's growth that

1143
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: a cur every year or regression. I'm not gonna say

1144
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: that can happen. If you look at Johnny Manzel, that's

1145
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 2: a perfect example of when you completely take your eye

1146
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: off the ball, you will not get better, You'll get worse.

1147
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: And he's admitted that and talked about that many times.

1148
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: You know, there have been other, you know stories of

1149
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: quarterbacks who once they got to the NFL, they acted

1150
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: like they arrived and they they certainly did not, and

1151
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: they suffered and their team struggled for it. But guys

1152
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: like Joe Burrow who played five years in college, Brock Purdy,

1153
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: who was the last pick of the draft, played five

1154
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: years in college. You know, you look at Dillon Gabriel,

1155
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: you look at what Bo Nicks is doing this year

1156
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: and this year's draft of class. You look at Jayden Daniels,

1157
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: by the way, who played four years in college like

1158
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: five was it five? Three at Arizona Arizona. So there

1159
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 2: it is, like my point being, I think a more

1160
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: ten I think personally, if I'm a talent evaluator at

1161
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: the next level looking for a college talent, and I

1162
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 2: have my choice between the two talents that are equal, right,

1163
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: or even say the guy who's had less experience at

1164
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: the collegiate level is slightly more talented, I want to

1165
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: go with the more experienced Gods.

1166
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: Well, the good news is I agree with you. When

1167
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: you think about all the major busted quarterbacks over the

1168
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: last twenty years or so, a lot of them were

1169
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: guys that had like one year in college, like that

1170
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: one year and boom, I'm off to the NFL. And

1171
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: that lack of experience at the collegiate level shows up.

1172
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: You see a lot and you see a lot more

1173
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: on every level.

1174
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also at the college level, like, okay, when

1175
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: you first get to campus, things are moving a million

1176
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: miles an hour. I remember when I was a freshman

1177
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 2: at Penn State, I didn't feel like I'd ever be

1178
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: good enough, and then year two things start to slow down.

1179
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: Year three, you understand the offense.

1180
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: Year four you start looking at the defense and being like, oh,

1181
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 2: that's the reason why we run these types of plays, because.

1182
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: The defense is doing this to us.

1183
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, the aperture of the camera lens

1184
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: that you're looking through, Yeah, it widens and widens and

1185
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 2: wid and you see more of the picture.

1186
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: The game is true for quarterbacks. The game slows down.

1187
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 2: They see more of the picture, they understand more, you

1188
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: get more curious. It's like playing chess. If you're a

1189
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: beginner chess player, you know how the pieces move and

1190
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: you know where they're supposed to go on the board.

1191
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: When you're a master chess player, you understand strategy and

1192
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 2: nuance at a level that very few people on the

1193
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: planet understand. That it all takes experience, though.

1194
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna tell you about another quarterback currently

1195
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL along those lines and get your thoughts

1196
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: on where his career is going. But first let's find

1197
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: out what is trending right now. And monci for motoring

1198
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: through these games pretty quick today.

1199
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, at least some of them are exciting, you know,

1200
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 8: because you didn't know how they were gonna go.

1201
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 6: So we've got some scoring going on.

1202
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 8: All of the seven games going on are either at

1203
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 8: halftime or within a minute of halftime. I'm gonna start

1204
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 8: with the Dolphins and the Texans because Tua Togo Vailoa

1205
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 8: just through an interception with less than fifteen seconds to

1206
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 8: go in the first half.

1207
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 6: Right at the end zone.

1208
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 8: The Texans should have scored a touchdown. It should have

1209
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 8: been a pick six, but Devon a Chan ran him down,

1210
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 8: threw him out of bounds. They actually only got a

1211
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 8: field goal out of it. So the Texans are on

1212
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 8: top of the Dolphins thirteen to six. Tua fourteen of

1213
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 8: twenty eighty six yards and that pick that just happened.

1214
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 8: The Jaguars are beating the Jets thirteen to seven, Mac

1215
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 8: Jones eighteen of twenty four, one hundred and fourteen yards

1216
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 8: and a touchdown. The Cowboys are beating the Panthers ten

1217
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 8: to seven.

1218
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 6: But Bryce, young guys, don't we just love him?

1219
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 11: Forty two seconds to go Panther ball from their own seventeen.

1220
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 3: They empty it out.

1221
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: Youngest of the gun, Bryce grows deep down, fight over

1222
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 1: what open he's got? The forty five he's got big

1223
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: field down the right side of life, running a big

1224
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: guy like Cooker eighty three yards for the score.

1225
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 8: An eighty three yard touchdown pass from our little brother

1226
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 8: Bryce Young, who we all love, and you just heard

1227
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 8: it all on the Fox Panthers Radio network. But they

1228
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 8: are losing again to the Cowboys ten seven. But we

1229
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 8: gotta give Young some love. As you were talking about.

1230
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 8: It's all Ravens against the Giants twenty one to seven

1231
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 8: at the half.

1232
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 6: Yes, Tim Boyle came in right before because Tommy.

1233
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 8: DeVito is being evaluated for a concussion. All commanders so

1234
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 8: far against the Saints fourteen zero. Jaden Daniels has strown

1235
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 8: for one hundred and forty yards and two touchdowns. Both

1236
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 8: of them went to Terry McLaurin, which is very great

1237
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 8: for my fantasy teams.

1238
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 9: The Bengals are beating the Titans twenty one to fourteen.

1239
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 8: Joe Burrow tied the game with a touchdown pass to

1240
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 8: Sam Hubbard. Now he just gave them the lead with

1241
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 8: a touchdown pass to t Higgins.

1242
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 6: There's still thirty seconds.

1243
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 8: To go in this one, and Chiefs are beating the

1244
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 8: Browns fourteen zero.

1245
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: Let me stop you right there, Harrison Bucker, who just

1246
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: returned for the injured list. Yes, just hooked a twenty

1247
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: nine yard field goal attep No, his left leg buckle.

1248
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: He looked like he had never kicked a ball before. Yeah.

1249
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if he slipped or if there's something

1250
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 2: wrong with that that knee or that leg, but it's

1251
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:49,479
Speaker 2: not it.

1252
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: It did not look good. It didn't look right.

1253
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 2: And his special teams coordinator was bent over and cussing

1254
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: up a storm on the sideline. And this is after

1255
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: their backup kicker Monsey was able to back one in

1256
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: for the win on Sunday Night Football against the Chargers, and.

1257
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: They released that guy for Bucker, and Bucker just wow, Well, at.

1258
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 6: Least they're still at fourteen zero. At least there's that.

1259
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's mack to you guys.

1260
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: All right, well, Moncey, they're gonna have to keep an

1261
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: eye on that if Bucker is one hundred percent because

1262
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: that looked bad. I mean, his plant like buckled.

1263
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 10: Did you guys see what the Cowboys made Brandon Aubrey

1264
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 10: do right before the half?

1265
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: No, what did they make? It was a seventy yard attempt. Nice.

1266
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. He's got the leg for that

1267
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: he was about nine yards shorts.

1268
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: And also, when you're Mike McCarthy and the Dallas Cowboys,

1269
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 2: do you have anything left to lose whatsoever? I mean,

1270
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: just I just start, honestly on touchbacks. Just start trying

1271
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 2: field goals. I mean first down and you know what,

1272
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 2: and you do it on first out just in case

1273
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,959
Speaker 2: you muff a couple of snaps, you do it over again.

1274
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 2: What happens if you hit if you hit him between

1275
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 2: the uprights on a kickoff.

1276
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: Kick nod still considered. No, I'm saying. I'm saying we

1277
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: can make we could change the rules, We could make

1278
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: that until it does happen. But the problem is what

1279
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: we've seen that happen many times where a guy splits

1280
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: the uprights on the kickoff. But remember he's getting in

1281
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: a running start. He doesn't have the same lead up

1282
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: in a field goal where you got to get the

1283
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: ball up in the air quick so to avoid the block.

1284
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: All right, I want to ask you we were talking

1285
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks. By the way, once again, this is red

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Speaker 1: zone radio and the experience that they gather in college

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Speaker 1: and now it helps them in the next level. But

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Speaker 1: then there's also the question of well, what their ceiling is,

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Speaker 1: in other words, have they peaked? And I'm watching brock

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Speaker 1: Purty right now, who had all that experience as a

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Speaker 1: four years start at Iowa State. He didn't seem overwhelmed

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Speaker 1: by taking over the forty nine ers offense. And then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden people start doing their homework on

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Speaker 1: brock Party and this year and you can talk about

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Speaker 1: all the injuries that the forty nine ers I had.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the eyeball test. The brock Party I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four is missing throws that he wasn't

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Speaker 1: missing in twenty twenty three and late in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: and you just get a sense, is this guy gonna

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Speaker 1: get any better? Because right now brock Party is really

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Speaker 1: mirroring in the career of Jimmy Garoppolo. Uh They're they're

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Speaker 1: physically different, but the actual what they're capable of doing

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01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: at this level there seems to be this flat line.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we are with brock Party. I don't disagree.

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Speaker 2: I was a big fan of brock Parties when it

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01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: appeared that he was getting better every year, and I

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Speaker 2: didn't really understand a lot of the brock Purty slander

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01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 2: because it's like, yeah, but I mean, is he a

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Speaker 2: guy you have to pay millions and millions of dollars?

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Speaker 2: It's like, well, it's his rookie year. Yeah, let's let's

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Speaker 2: pump the brakes. You don't have to pay him anything yet.

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Speaker 2: And then it was year two, it's like, well, is

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Speaker 2: this a guy who gotta pay millions of millions?

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Speaker 1: It's like who whaa? He was top five MVP and

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Speaker 1: let his team in the Super Bowl, Like yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: let's pump the brakes again.

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Speaker 2: And then you know he he's he's doing okay. Like

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Speaker 2: I I think there was this idea of like, okay,

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Speaker 2: but is he the guy? It's like, well, we're not

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Speaker 2: sure if.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy.

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Speaker 2: Was This was actually a good thing to happen to

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers because it gives you a little

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01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: bit more of an understanding who Brock is. When everything

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01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 2: was perfect, then it wasn't perfect perfect, But when things

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01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: were better for Brock in year one and two as

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01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: a starter, Rock Party looked really really good. But when

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01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: things got uglied up this year, you have a receiver

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01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: holding out. Guess what. That's life in the business. In

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Speaker 2: the NFL. You have a left tackle holding out. Guess what,

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01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: that's life in the business. In the NFL. You have

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Speaker 2: a rookie receiver who gets shot. You know, this is

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01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: a little bit of an aberration. He can't be available

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Speaker 2: until week six or whatever it was when Ricky Piersoll

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Speaker 2: came back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's normal.

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Speaker 2: A guy getting injured in training camp and can't make

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Speaker 2: it back until part of the way through the season.

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01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 2: Your star running back gets hurt, You got to tweak

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01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: the offense. More of the pressure is going to be

1341
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 2: piled on the quarterback when other things around the roster

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Speaker 2: are failing.

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Speaker 1: You have to step up to that. You have to

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Speaker 1: step up to that challenge.

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Speaker 2: Look in Cincinnati, Joe Burrow knew the job of the

1346
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,839
Speaker 2: offense is to score points. I mean, yeah, my defense

1347
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 2: is giving up yards and points and we're losing game

1348
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: after game after game here. But my job is to

1349
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 2: score points. Joe Burrow is playing like an MVP this

1350
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 2: year on a bad football team.

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Speaker 1: It isn't Joe's fault.

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01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: Brock Purdy is playing like an average quarterback on an

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01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 2: average football team this year, very average. And that is

1354
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 2: a problem because if you're gonna pay a guy like

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Speaker 2: a superstar. You better play like a superstar, and he

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Speaker 2: hasn't this season.

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Speaker 1: All right, halftime begals leading the Titans twenty four to fourteen,

1358
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow twenty of twenty seven, two hundred and sixteen yards,

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01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: three touchdowns and a pick. Again, those MVP numbers will

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01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: let us by the way right on track seven to ten,

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01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: eighty five yards and no touchdowns, two picks.

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Speaker 2: He's been, he's been a roller coaster that everybody's ready

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Speaker 2: to get out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that roller cos there's not there's not

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Speaker 1: many highs in that roller coas. Yeah, I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: he'sn't a death spiral right now.

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Speaker 2: It was an experiment, and listen, it may not be

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Speaker 2: his time. We've seen this before too. Higher second round

1369
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 2: picks or low first round picks need a little bit

1370
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: more time to season in the NFL and when they

1371
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: get another opportunity elsewhere, sometimes it works. I mean Gino Smith,

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold first rounder but bounced around as a backup

1373
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 2: after leaving New York Baker Mayfield. I mean, you can

1374
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 2: see high picks have struggles earlier in their career and

1375
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 2: then they can find a home elsewhere that could be

1376
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: will Lefis's story, but it is not working out in Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: All right, I have a question about another quarterback. So

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Speaker 1: last week was that unbelievable with the Cowboys Bengals game?

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Speaker 1: It was great? I mean you block a punt yep, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that actually ends up gaining thirty yards from the team

1381
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: whose punt was blocked. I don't get because a guy

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01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: touches the ball, which made it a live ball. They recovered.

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Speaker 1: And then of course we see the hookup between Joe

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01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: Burrow and Jamar Chase and the Cowboys go down to

1385
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: defeat again at home. But so you're five and eight.

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Speaker 1: It's over for the Cowboys. There's no delusion that somehow

1387
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 1: nine and eight is going to get them a wildcard spot.

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Speaker 1: It's not. And yet Cooper Rush is still a quarterback.

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01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: You made a trade, you created a fourth round pick

1390
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Speaker 1: for Trey Lance. Why is he not on the field.

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Speaker 1: Why are you not at least even think about this?

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Speaker 1: What if Trey Lance plays great, there might be a

1393
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: team willing to make a deal to get Trey Lance.

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01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get anything for Trey Lance if he's

1395
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,480
Speaker 1: standing on the sidelines. The season is over the Cowboys.

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01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 1: You will not make the playoffs. Why is Cooper Rush

1397
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Speaker 1: still in a quarterback.

1398
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 2: Maybe because Jerry doesn't want Trey Lance to go in there.

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Speaker 2: It's possible that Jerry Jones has completely defanged Mike McCarthy

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01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: to the point where he's saying to Mike, look, you're

1401
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 2: out of here in a year or not in so

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01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: many words, but basically insinuating your here next this offense.

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01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: But he's also insinuating he may stay.

1404
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 2: And well, I mean publicly, he could say whatever he

1405
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 2: wants publicly. How many times has Jerry Jones lied to

1406
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: all of us? I mean, it's part of being the

1407
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 2: ring leader at the Barnum Belly circus. Sometimes you're not

1408
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 2: telling the complete truth about the elephants. But guess what,

1409
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's show business. And Jerry Jones understands that.

1410
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: And so I think I think he's getting rid of McCarthy,

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01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: and maybe he has some belief in Trey Lance, but

1412
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,440
Speaker 2: he doesn't want He doesn't want him to get exposed

1413
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 2: to the things that Cooper Rush is getting exposed to,

1414
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 2: and so he wants to wait for his next coach,

1415
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 2: maybe his next offensive coordinator, to help Trey Lance become

1416
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 2: what maybe he thought he could be become when he

1417
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 2: traded for him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

1419
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I could come up with, but

1420
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 2: I agree with you one thing that is for sure.

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Speaker 1: It's a lost season for the now Cowboys. Trey Lance

1422
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: has had one of the most peculiar quarterback careers of

1423
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: all time. Yeah, get from his college is one year

1424
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: where he didn't throw a single interception. That one full year.

1425
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: Biz to be in the third overall pick in the

1426
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: draft after one year as a starting quarterback at the

1427
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 1: FCS level and then not panning out and then where

1428
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: he is now just very bizarre.

1429
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Speaker 2: It's the antithesis of the conversation we're having about Joe

1430
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 2: Burrow and Jayden Daniels and Bone Nicks and some of

1431
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: these young quarterbacks who had a lot of experience at.

1432
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: The collegiate level, Guys who don't like.

1433
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 2: Mitchell Trubisky one year and then out, Guys like Trey

1434
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: Lance one year and then out. You can see the

1435
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 2: effect that has on they didn't see enough football at

1436
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 2: the collegiate level.

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01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: Well, there's another guy like that named Sam Darnold, who

1438
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden is looking pretty good for the

1439
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. We'll have more on that. Plus what's going

1440
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: on right now. We are into second halves around the

1441
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: NFL seven games, much more coming up here on red

1442
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: Zone Radio. Forty two seconds to go. Panther ball from

1443
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: their own seventeen. They empty it out, youngest of the gun.

1444
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: Price throws deep down, Chris.

1445
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 5: He's got the forty five, he's got midfield down the

1446
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:07,799
Speaker 5: right sideline Island Cooker eighty three.

1447
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: Yards for the score. That's ninety nine seven of the

1448
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: Fox Panthers radio network. So after spotting the Cowboys a

1449
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: ten to nothing lead, Panthers now trail the Cowboys ten

1450
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,919
Speaker 1: to seven. That game just starting in the second half. Texans,

1451
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: by the way of taking a thirteen to six lead

1452
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 1: over the Dolphins. And where is the Dolphins' offense six

1453
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: points to a tongue of by Loa today is fourteen

1454
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: of twenty only eighty six yards passing, no touchdowns and

1455
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: a pick. And Tyreek Hill has been targeted three times,

1456
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: zero catches. Tyreek Hill, Yeah, Tyreek Hill, one of the

1457
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: most prolific wide receivers of this generation, a future Hall

1458
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: of Famer. Three targets, zero catches. I don't get it.

1459
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,879
Speaker 2: I don't get how a receiver as dynamic as Tyreek

1460
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 2: Hill gets completely eliminated from your game plan week after

1461
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: week after week. Have have somehow defenses dialed it in

1462
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: so well that all of a sudden it is impossible

1463
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: to get him the football. I mean, I'm pretty sure

1464
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: during his time in Kansas City they found a way

1465
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 2: to get him open.

1466
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean now at his time in Minnices in Miami,

1467
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: that's when we'd even been better.

1468
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: Last year he was looking and almost did achieve two

1469
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: thousand yards receiving, So like, did it all suddenly come

1470
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 2: crashing down?

1471
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense.

1472
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 2: So the lack of production there is the biggest achilles

1473
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: heel for this offense, because if you take two thousand

1474
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 2: yards worth of offense off of the Miami Dolphins from

1475
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 2: last year, they'd be a pretty subpar football team too.

1476
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 2: I look, Tua was out, he was injured again. This

1477
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: has been a common refrain with his career that obviously

1478
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 2: had an impact on his stats.

1479
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: But since Tua has been back, it's been quiet. Anyways.

1480
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill last year averaged one hundred and twelve yards

1481
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: receiving per game. Yep, yep. This year he is averaging

1482
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: fifty nine fifty nine. Yeah, it's it doesn't make much sense.

1483
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: He had over seventeen hundred yards receiving each of his

1484
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: first two years in Miami. He has seven hundred yards.

1485
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: It doesn't year, It doesn't make any sense. Well, is

1486
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: this the coaching as well? Well, I mean, what if

1487
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: you're not making progress, if the team isn't getting better

1488
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: under your leadership, if they're going backwards instead of forwards,

1489
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 1: do you need to make a change or do you say, ah,

1490
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: just an aberration, here's a weird year, blah blah blah.

1491
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:51,560
Speaker 2: Tua has completed seventy percent or more of his passes

1492
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 2: in seven straight games. That is the longest streak in

1493
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 2: Dolphin's history. Think about what I just said.

1494
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: That includes for how many yards? How many yards? But

1495
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,480
Speaker 1: but the but the point I'm saying is they're distributing

1496
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,759
Speaker 1: the football. They're getting it to their playmakers. So either

1497
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: they're not throwing it enough.

1498
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: To Tyreek Hill, or when they're throwing it to Tyreek Hill,

1499
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: they're off target, or he's dropping them, or he's not

1500
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 2: as involved in the game plan as he was last year.

1501
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: Whatever the situation is. Well, the Texans just scored again,

1502
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 1: So Miami is now down nineteen to six. Miami loses today,

1503
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 1: it's over.

1504
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the end of that. And by the way, CJ. Stroud,

1505
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been struggling. It's kind of been an

1506
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 2: up and down season this year. These low red zone,

1507
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 2: you know, pitching catches, especially in the scramble drill, because

1508
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: there was a little more time needed to improvise here,

1509
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: getting the football in the zone in these tight windows.

1510
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: This is important because even though the Dolphins are having

1511
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 2: a down year, this bode's extremely well for a team

1512
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 2: that's gonna in their division, probably going to be a

1513
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 2: double digit win team and going to be hosting someone

1514
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 2: in the postseason.

1515
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: The New York Jets right now are trailing the Jaguars

1516
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: sixteen to ten, first downs, twenty to nine, Jaguars total yards,

1517
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: total yards, eight minutes to go in the third quarter.

1518
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: Jets only have one hundred and nineteen Jags two fifty eight.

1519
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: Time of possession twenty four to thirteen. You know, obviously,

1520
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: when you have Aaron Rodgers on the field, he's gonna

1521
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: get a lot of focus when your team is three

1522
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: to ten. You know what, the Jets have not been

1523
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:38,600
Speaker 1: great at this year defense, I mean last week. They

1524
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: gave up thirty two to the Dolphins. They've given up

1525
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: at least third Look at I mean they give up

1526
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 1: thirty one to the Cardinals, thirty seven to the Steelers,

1527
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: thirty two to the forty nine Ers. I thought this

1528
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: Jets defense was so dynamic. Why aren't they?

1529
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 2: They've fallen They've fallen off, and I think it's because

1530
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 2: there was a brain drain after Roberts saw this is

1531
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 2: his defense.

1532
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 1: They're running and.

1533
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, you the defensive coordinator, head coach.

1534
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 2: He's got a lot more to worry about on game

1535
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: day instead of getting his defense right, Jeff Olbrich is

1536
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: trying to keep the wheels on. Aaron Rodgers also is

1537
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 2: coming off of his best game and he's struggling a

1538
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 2: little bit today because he struggles a little bit against

1539
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 2: man to man defense, actually a lot. This season, he

1540
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:27,919
Speaker 2: ranks twenty ninth out of thirty three qualifying quarterbacks against

1541
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 2: man to man coverage. So this Jaguars defense runs a

1542
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 2: lot of man and that has been a point of

1543
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 2: issue with Aaron Rodgers this season. Even though he's coming

1544
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 2: off of a three hundred yard game, his first three

1545
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: hundred yard game of the season.

1546
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: All right, Cowboys just scored again. Cooper Rush with a

1547
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: touchdown pass. So the Cowboys increase their lead on the

1548
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: road against the Panthers, now leading seventeen to seven. Which

1549
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 1: games are gonna go down the wire? You're gonna find

1550
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 1: it if you heap it right here. This is Red

1551
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: Zone Radio.

1552
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 3: Rolls to the right now.

1553
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: He wants to throw fire toward the end zone.

1554
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: He's got a man touchdown.

1555
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 12: Ravens, what a play as tedz Walker makes his first

1556
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 12: NFL catch and the rookie out of North Carolina has

1557
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 12: his first NFL touchdown.

1558
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: That's ninety eight Rock Ravens Radio Network. Lamar Jackson seventeen

1559
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: of nineteen, two hundred and six yards, four touchdown passes,

1560
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: and he's run for sixty five yards and the Ravens

1561
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 1: are demolishing the Giants, no surprise there by a score

1562
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: of twenty eight to seven and Riches in trouble. He's

1563
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: in trouble. He's hoping the Giants can stay close in

1564
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: that game. It is not trending in the right direction. No,

1565
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Speaker 1: I was hoping we would have a few more competitive games,

1571
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: but right now Chiefs are up twenty one to nothing.

1572
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: Browns have zero offense, the Bengals twenty four to fourteen.

1573
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: As you know, Will Levis doesn't smell of a comeback quarterback.

1574
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: Commander's over the Saints seventeen to seven, Ravens over the

1575
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: Giants twenty eight to seven, Cowboys over the Panthers seventeen

1576
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: to seven, Texans over the Dolphins twenty six twenty six.

1577
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: We only have one one score game. Yeah. By the way,

1578
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: the Jets right now are trying to get in the

1579
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: end zone. They have a furth first and goal at

1580
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville four yard line, and Jacksonville leads this game

1581
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: by a score of sixteen to ten.

1582
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 2: You know, I'm curious what the thought process is for

1583
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow if he's thinking to himself, all right, we're

1584
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 2: a five and eight football team. But if I keep

1585
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 2: stacking up wins and great games individually for myself, I

1586
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: mean at some point he's gonna hold the feet of

1587
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: the everyone involved in this organization to the fire and

1588
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 2: he's gonna say you need to back up the Brings

1589
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 2: truck otherwise I'm here. I mean that, like, because now

1590
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 2: he's a competitor, he's a great player. He is you know,

1591
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 2: a guy who's has super Bowl talent. We've seen it.

1592
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 2: But but I mean, that's gotta be the thought process

1593
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 2: in this lost season. Is I am going to get

1594
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: myself in a position where I could get so paid

1595
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 2: by this franchise because I have zero belief that we're

1596
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: actually going to accomplish accomplish like my lifelong goals as

1597
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 2: a player in this league. So I may as well

1598
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: just get as much money as I possibly can.

1599
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: Mike Brown, son of the legendary Paul Brown that founded

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01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: two franchises, the Cleveland Browns and the Cincinnati Bengals, is cheap, cheap, cheap.

1601
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: He will not invest. I mean, this is a team,

1602
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: the Bengals, that is blessed with right now the best

1603
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:00,719
Speaker 1: quarterback receiver combo in the league, right Burrow to Chase Jamar.

1604
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,799
Speaker 1: Chase has had an insane year this year, and obviously

1605
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 1: Burrow now three more times that's thirty six touchdowns already. Yeah. Okay,

1606
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: but you say, okay, well you got to fix the defense, right,

1607
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: you got to fix the defense. They're not gonna spend

1608
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: that kind of money. They're just not. And so I

1609
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 1: get what you're saying that if you're Joe Burrow, who

1610
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: you know, seemed to be when he got to his

1611
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: first Super Bowl. You know, they upset the Chiefs on

1612
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: the road in Kansas City. The following year, they were

1613
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 1: right back there. They lose to the Chiefs, but we thought, okay,

1614
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a showdown for many years to come, right,

1615
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes back and forth.

1616
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: And now the Bengals have fallen off the map because

1617
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 1: they have no defense, they have the quarterback. And you're

1618
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is

1619
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: not what I signed up for. You know, I want

1620
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: a national championship at LSU have been to a Super Bowl.

1621
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: I expect to be there every year. I'm doing my part.

1622
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: But you're not going to invest in a defense so

1623
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 1: that we can be competitive or I don't have to

1624
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 1: put up forty points in order to win a game.

1625
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: That's not the history of the Bengals. There's a reason

1626
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: why the Bengals have been a mediocre franchise for eternity,

1627
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:15,600
Speaker 1: and it starts with ownership, and Mike Brown is cheap, cheap, cheap,

1628
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 1: They're not going to invest the money.

1629
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: When you look at the situation like with Jamar Chase

1630
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 2: for example, where they had the opportunity to rework his deal,

1631
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 2: and you can get the salary cap numbers to work

1632
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 2: even if you have another quarterback on an enormous deal

1633
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 2: like Joe Burrow for example. When you have a player

1634
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 2: like that on an enormous deal, you can still find

1635
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 2: ways to get under the cap by guaranteeing a lot

1636
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 2: of money upfront. But that means you have to have

1637
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 2: the money. And in this situation, it's possible that Mike

1638
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: Brown and the other owner's minority or otherwise aren't willing

1639
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 2: to put up the sort of funds to guarantee a

1640
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 2: bunch of money to a quarter or a receiver that

1641
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 2: your quarterback really likes. And so after this season, unless

1642
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 2: something really changes inside the phil philosophy of this franchise,

1643
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 2: it looks like Chase is gonna be gone and so

1644
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 2: my point stands like, you still have him for this season,

1645
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 2: regardless of how bad the record is. Make it so

1646
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 2: it's undeniable. It was in your fault. And at some

1647
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: point it may not be this upcoming offseason. It may

1648
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 2: wait until the offseason to twenty twenty five. Joe Burrow

1649
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 2: is going to draw a hard line with this franchise

1650
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: and be like, hey, look, I'm doing my part. Okay,

1651
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 2: I'm doing everything I can. And he even said it

1652
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: before this week's game. He was like, I'm operating better

1653
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: outside the structure of the offense than I ever have

1654
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 2: in the history of my career. Because he knew he

1655
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,919
Speaker 2: was going up against a staunch defensive one in the Titans,

1656
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 2: and they're handling business offensively today. He's he's even aware

1657
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 2: of how much better he's become. I think it's gonna

1658
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 2: be hard to keep Joe Burrow around Cincinnati for the

1659
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 2: entirety of his career.

1660
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 1: I really do.

1661
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 2: This isn't going to be a lifelong commitment, Like it

1662
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 2: feels like Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs have struck. This

1663
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: feels like it's going to be his first five to

1664
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 2: eight seasons instancy and then goodbye.

1665
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 1: Well We'll see how that plays out, because without him,

1666
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: the Bengals do not exist. Period. Touchdown Jets. A touchdown

1667
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: pass from Aaron Rodgers to Devonte Adams, by the way,

1668
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: a historic touchdown reception for Adams. He becomes just a

1669
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 1: twelfth receiver in NFL history to have one hundred career

1670
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:27,799
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns. Devonte Adams with a big milestone, one hundred

1671
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 1: career touchdown receptions, twelfth player in NFL history to have

1672
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 1: that mark, and the Jets take a seventeen to sixteen

1673
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: lead over the Jaguars. There's another guy that's got to

1674
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: make a decision on his future. Yeah, I mean he can't.

1675
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're Devonte Adams, you just sit around

1676
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,719
Speaker 1: and wait to see what happens with Aaron Rodgers. Because

1677
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers fate. You could see this happening, right, So

1678
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: the Jets turn the page on him. He's done it

1679
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 1: in New York and now he's sort of waiting for

1680
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: a call, and he's sort of hamming in Hawe and

1681
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: maybe he's in one of his places where he wants

1682
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: to meditate everything about his future. But really what he's

1683
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: waiting for is a call from a team. That is

1684
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 1: interested not in just signing him, but guaranteeing him a

1685
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: starting job. And you're Devonte Adams and what you're just

1686
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 1: gonna wait to see where Aaron Rodgers goes.

1687
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: I don't think he will because he didn't wait around

1688
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 2: the last time. Now, remember he left first, Rogers was

1689
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 2: left behind. Adams left because he saw the writing on

1690
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 2: the wall. He knew Rogers was trying to get out

1691
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 2: of Green Bay, and he said, not me.

1692
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: And he wanted to reunite with his college teammate Derek Carr.

1693
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 2: So he went to Las Vegas, played with Carr, and

1694
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 2: then they benched and traded Carr. And so the very

1695
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,520
Speaker 2: next season, or I should say the entirety of the offseason,

1696
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 2: the conversation is, where's DeVante going next? Feels like he

1697
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 2: may end up in New York at some point in

1698
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Well guess where he ends up. So

1699
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 2: here we are again, he's with Rogers. Rogers is intimating

1700
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 2: that he hasn't made up his mind whether or not

1701
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 2: he's going to be with the team that has has

1702
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 2: him under contract.

1703
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: Currently. I think Devanta Adams has gone again.

1704
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,839
Speaker 2: I think it's possible that he talks to the Jets brass,

1705
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: and he said, I came up here under completely different

1706
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: terms than where we're at now. You guys lured me

1707
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 2: here because you said relinking with Aaron was going to

1708
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 2: netis a potential playoff in Super Bowl run. That's the

1709
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 2: only reason why I'm here. You haven't kept them healthy, happy,

1710
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 2: or healthy for that matter. He wants out, so I

1711
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 2: want out. So where am I going next?

1712
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: We need to.

1713
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 2: Figure that out. And I think he's going to get

1714
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 2: traded again. I really do.

1715
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: Uh, it was just a matter of time. But it's

1716
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: just happened. Will Levis just threw a pick six. Yeah, really,

1717
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: very unbelievable. We knew at some point there was going

1718
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: to be another pick six, so he throws it over

1719
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: the middle. Confidence to Geno Stone, he threw it too.

1720
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: He was looking for his receiver and I mean, and

1721
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: there were three Bengals in.

1722
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 3: Front of that. For me, and in fairness to Will Levis,

1723
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 3: the jerseys do look very similar.

1724
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 1: Very similar. Dark blue and white.

1725
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, an orange.

1726
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: Geno Stone famously playing for the Tennessee Titans. By the way, Rich,

1727
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: you're wager on the Giants not dead yet because Tim

1728
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: Boyle is on fire. Ravens lead twenty eight to seven.

1729
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 1: Just came to the end of the third. I don't know,

1730
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 1: but the Giants have a fourth and goal at the

1731
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 1: Ravens two yard line. If they score a touchdown, you're

1732
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: only down fourteen. I don't have faith. I don't call

1733
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: him Tim Boyle. I call him him Boil.

1734
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, this is how the laser light show gets you.

1735
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 10: One minute, you're watching led Zeppelin up there, and Tim's

1736
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 10: lighting the propane tanks on fire.

1737
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: Tim Boyle of explosions.

1738
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 2: Sooner, letting you know he's gonna be playing the observatory

1739
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 2: in front of a crowd.

1740
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: Of a thousand.

1741
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just gonna be majestic, shirtless on the stage.

1742
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 2: Laser light show, Tim Boyle, He's gonna bring down the house.

1743
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: First like the Beatles at the Jay Stadium. Man, that

1744
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: kind of He's got to get in the ramon, He's

1745
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 1: got to get in this. Well, here we go. We're

1746
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 1: going to start the fourth quarter, fourth goal at the

1747
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 1: Ravens two yard line. What's gonna happen there? We are?

1748
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 1: You gonna find out on the other side as we

1749
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: continue on seven games around the NFL heading to the

1750
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: fourth quarters, Please there's got to be a game that

1751
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: goes down to the wire. We hope you'll find out.

1752
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 1: This is Red Zone Radio.

1753
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 10: Levis under center again, turns around, fakes a handoff to Pollard,

1754
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 10: wants to throw.

1755
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: Fires Stone radio back. Gino's at the twenty five twenty

1756
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 1: battling front to block. He's to the the five to

1757
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 1: the goal line, touchdown Bengals.

1758
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 5: Gino Stone with a pick six and the Bengals have

1759
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 5: their fourth takeaway of the day.

1760
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: At seven hundred WLW Bengals Radio Network. Bengals lead the

1761
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 1: Titans by a score of thirty one to fourteen. And

1762
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: we just saw Jerome Ford go to the races for

1763
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. That was a sixty two yard run

1764
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:58,719
Speaker 1: for Jerome Ford.

1765
01:30:58,920 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 11: Wow.

1766
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 1: And the Browns are finally on the board. There was

1767
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 1: a big hole up the middle, then he broke it

1768
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 1: to the outside and was off to the races. So

1769
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: the Browns get on the board. They were down twenty

1770
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 1: one nothing, twenty one six as we wait for the

1771
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 1: extra point there. All right, once again we are Red

1772
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: Zone Radio. We're live from Thetireraq dot Com studios. Well,

1773
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 1: let's let's get back to the Chiefs here for a moment. Oh,

1774
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 1: before we do extra points, got twenty one to seven

1775
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs over the Browns where we left off. Oh, that's

1776
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 1: right with the Giants. The Giants were on the two

1777
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 1: yard line. Yeah, fourth and two and yeah touchdown, no no, no,

1778
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: no out incomplete pass.

1779
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they turn it over on downs and now the

1780
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 2: Ravens are at the Giants forty four yard line. They

1781
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,719
Speaker 2: lead twenty eight to seven at MetLife Stadium in New York.

1782
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,839
Speaker 2: Giants about to be blanked for the season. I believe

1783
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 2: warn you about the light show. Yeah, yeah, this is

1784
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 2: not going well. This is really not going well. So unfortunately,

1785
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,560
Speaker 2: with Tim Boyle in at quarterback, the New York g

1786
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 2: men who replaced Tommy Coldcuts with Boyle, are not having

1787
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 2: any more success in the second half. Now, this point

1788
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 2: spread was sixteen points. It may even ticked up before kickoff.

1789
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 2: It could have been more than that, but it was

1790
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 2: sixteen points yesterday. When I said on countdown to kickoff

1791
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio, I mean nobody, I mean

1792
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 2: this is the NFL. Nobody's gonna get beat by sixteen points.

1793
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 2: When the spread's that high, Well, guess what the Ravens

1794
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 2: are going to cover?

1795
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: This spread Dolphins just scored and missed the extra point. Yikes.

1796
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,640
Speaker 1: Remember we were talking all season long about how insane

1797
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 1: the kicking was around the NFL.

1798
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,959
Speaker 2: For about the first six weeks, we were seeing kickers

1799
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 2: routinely make kicks from fifty plus.

1800
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 1: Year we weren't even getting that missed extra points. I remember,

1801
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 1: over the years, have you been listening to our show

1802
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 1: here Red Zone Radio? It was almost this on going,

1803
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:51,679
Speaker 1: like how quickly before we get a miss extra point?

1804
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean the first seven or eight weeks we barely

1805
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: got any. It happened again.

1806
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got this all of the year.

1807
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 10: So it looks like we had another pick six, this

1808
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 10: time from Mason Rudolph. But do you remember a couple

1809
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 10: of weeks ago, I forget which game it was, when

1810
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 10: the player dropped the ball before crossing the uh the

1811
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 10: goal line. It looks like the Bengals defender not only

1812
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 10: dropped it, he like chucked it away before he crossed

1813
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 10: the goal line.

1814
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 1: So the ball, okay, let's watch a replay. It's like,

1815
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 1: why do you do this? Well, I mean it's not

1816
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 1: even a matter of that. I mean, when you're trying

1817
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 1: to sit down with a guy, I know you're excited.

1818
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,640
Speaker 1: You got to pick six, You're gonna score a touchdown.

1819
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 1: But how do you reason with that? It's such a

1820
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 1: dumb thing to do. And right now the Bengals are,

1821
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, gathering around, so this is battle and he is,

1822
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 1: he's at about the two yard line. He just he

1823
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,640
Speaker 1: was I think he just dropped. I think he was

1824
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 1: trying to switch hands, but he was trying to annouce,

1825
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 1: to celebrate. He was gonna switch hands to do something,

1826
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,839
Speaker 1: and it bobbled the ball and came out of his hands,

1827
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: out of the end zone. Touchback. Oh oh, I mean,

1828
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: there's really not much he can say that holiday spirit.

1829
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 3: He's just giving it back to the Titans the way they.

1830
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 11: Gave it to that.

1831
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like, okay, you know, it's just

1832
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: a dumb play, really a dumb play. All right. So

1833
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, instead of being down twenty to thirteen, are

1834
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 1: down twenty to twelve, still a one score game, three

1835
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 1: forty four going the third. Dolphins desperate for a win,

1836
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: keep their faint playoff hopes alive. While we have a second, Yeah,

1837
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: go ahead, Broncos Colts is coming up. This is such

1838
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 1: a funny. I mean, the Broncos are sitting there. This play,

1839
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 1: by the way, really quick.

1840
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 2: Where so Pollard up the middle for Cincinnati at the

1841
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 2: thirty eight for a for a negative five yard rush.

1842
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 2: He got stuffed in the backfield, he fumbles, It's recovered

1843
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 2: by Battle who rushed it.

1844
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 1: For Get this. The fumble recovery was sixty one yard.

1845
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, he scores the touchdown, But instant replay review, this

1846
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,759
Speaker 2: is all written on the official play by play ruled

1847
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 2: that the runner did not break the plane recovering the football.

1848
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 1: The call was reversed.

1849
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard up the middle to the Cincinnati thirty eight

1850
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,799
Speaker 2: for negative five is the play that stands. The fumble

1851
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 2: recovered by Cincinnati, it does stand.

1852
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: But now it's Tennessee's ball, right Yeah, yeah, it's I

1853
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 1: mean yeah, it's the most ridiculous.

1854
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:32,879
Speaker 2: Game we have on the television right now because between

1855
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:37,879
Speaker 2: Levis and now Tony Pollard and now Cincinnati, they can't.

1856
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 1: Seem to get out of each other's way.

1857
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 2: This is going to be a completely nondescript win for

1858
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 2: the Bengals and we will never have to worry about it.

1859
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: All right, That game has no impact on any thing.

1860
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:50,640
Speaker 1: This game coming up will Colts and the Broncos. So

1861
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,759
Speaker 1: right now, the Colts are the team along with the Dolphins.

1862
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 1: They were sitting at six and seven trying to break

1863
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 1: through that wall of the eight and five teams, which

1864
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 1: is the Ravens who are winning big. Chargers have a

1865
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: big game coming up later and then the Broncos. Now

1866
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 1: this is my pride pick. The Broncos, a team that

1867
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 1: I predicted with a rookie quarterback was going to make

1868
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 1: the playoffs when no one was saying that, I was

1869
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,679
Speaker 1: the only one to say that. I'm still nervous about

1870
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 1: this because the Broncos have coming up after this game.

1871
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 1: They play Thursday night Football against the Chargers at so

1872
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:28,759
Speaker 1: far coming up this week. So you need this game

1873
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 1: because if you lose this game, you got a short

1874
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:36,600
Speaker 1: rest to go to the Chargers, then you're at Cincinnati

1875
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 1: and you finish at home against the Chiefs. So this

1876
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 1: is a must game for the Broncos. But then you

1877
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 1: also have the Colts, and have we made up our

1878
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 1: mind on Anthony Richardson right now as far as the

1879
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 1: Colts are concerned. After his self imposed pinching where he

1880
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 1: took himself out of a game, he actually has played

1881
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:04,719
Speaker 1: a little bit better since but is there enough there?

1882
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 2: He is last in the league in terms of completion

1883
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 2: percentage at forty seven point four percent.

1884
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's up from the forty four percent. But

1885
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: how about this, He's had two fourth quarter comebacks in

1886
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 1: the last three games.

1887
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,600
Speaker 2: Well look he I mean, if there's one thing he

1888
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 2: can do at this level is extend play and look

1889
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 2: for the big play. You know who He kind of

1890
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 2: reminds me of early in his career, who also couldn't

1891
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 2: hit the broadside of a barn Is Tim Tebow. Tim

1892
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 2: Tebow was not a very good quarterback at the professional level,

1893
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 2: but he was capable of making plays when he absolutely

1894
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 2: needed to. And there have been plenty of those moments

1895
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 2: throughout this Colts six and seven year where you could

1896
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 2: argue his play almost got them out of the game,

1897
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 2: but also his play got them right back into it

1898
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 2: and won some games for them. So there is a

1899
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,680
Speaker 2: little bit of a t Bow quality to Anthony Richardson.

1900
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Bo Nicks, we talked so much about Jaden Daniels.

1901
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 1: Bow Knicks leads all rookie quarterbacks in completions, passing yards,

1902
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, and offensive touchdowns. Who's your offensive rookie of

1903
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 1: the Year. Is it bow Knicks or is it Jaden Daniels.

1904
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Knicks is finishing stronger.

1905
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 2: Knicks has been the more consistent growth pattern you look,

1906
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 2: especially if you end up seeing bow Knicks, and especially

1907
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 2: where you think about where it started with bo Nicks

1908
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 2: and the Broncos get them into the postseason. I think

1909
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 2: he has to be I think he has to be

1910
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 2: your offensive rookie of the year.

1911
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 1: Is Brock Bowers in the conversation, is offensive rookie of

1912
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 1: the year? Yes? And he's setting rookie records at that

1913
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 1: tight end position on a horrific team. I was going

1914
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 1: to say yes.

1915
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 2: And it's unfortunate that we can't really herald his performances

1916
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 2: because it's like for what, for who? I mean, this

1917
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 2: is the same problem for Devonte Adams with the Las

1918
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders. He had a fine season last year, but

1919
01:38:58,960 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 2: didn't matter.

1920
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 1: Rock Bowers is fifth in the league in receiving yards.

1921
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 3: No, there's an argument that Brock Bowers is the best

1922
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 3: player at his position in the NFL right now.

1923
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, if you look at how Travis

1924
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 2: Kelsey has dropped off, George Kittle has been banged up

1925
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,640
Speaker 2: this season, and the Niners haven't been very productive offensively,

1926
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 2: and some of that's on Shanahan, some of that's on Purty,

1927
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 2: some of that's on the circumstances and the injuries also

1928
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 2: around that offense. You look around the league at tight end,

1929
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 2: I mean, name a tight end right now is better?

1930
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 1: It's hard to listen receiving yards going into this week.

1931
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 1: The number one Jamar Chase, followed by Justin Jefferson, Ceedee Lamb,

1932
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy, and Brock Bowers. Who's throwing him the football?

1933
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 1: Aiden O'Connell. I mean, I don't know if I have

1934
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 1: the most part, I don't know. Guys, would you vote

1935
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 1: Brock Bowers as offensive Rookie of the Year over the quarterbacks?

1936
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 3: I would? I would, Yes, Yeah, I'm tired of quarterbacks.

1937
01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 3: No one wants who admitted. But Jayden Daniels had such

1938
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 3: a mid middle of the year here where he played

1939
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 3: real team for once and got stuffed. Yea and Caleb

1940
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 3: obviously there's too much going on with the Bears for him.

1941
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 1: Both necks has the best stats of any of the

1942
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback.

1943
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 3: And that's the thing he's like. But that's the thing

1944
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 3: is he's the rookie quarterback, but like Brock Bowers, again

1945
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 3: probably the best player at his position as a.

1946
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 1: Run Oh, I got bad news from what's that? What's happening?

1947
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:23,639
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson threw his fifth touchdown pass twenty twenty five

1948
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: two ninety yards, five touchdowns, no picks. Ravens lead the

1949
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 1: Giants thirty five to seven, so they have a twenty

1950
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 1: eight point even nine and a half minutes to go.

1951
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,919
Speaker 3: Well, if the Giants just average a touchdown a minute, yeah.

1952
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 1: They're somehow the Giants think about this, The Giants need

1953
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 1: to score two touchdowns, well, not giving up a touchdown

1954
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:44,679
Speaker 1: to get the lead back to fourteen. You just need

1955
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 1: the Ravens to get on the bus, I think, is

1956
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:49,760
Speaker 1: what like if? Well, but even if even if the

1957
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 1: Ravens got on the bus and the Giants were playing

1958
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 1: in an empty field, I don't know if they could

1959
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 1: get two touchdowns. I think you're actually right, even if

1960
01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 1: there was no one on the field, could the Giants score?

1961
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: By the way, the Jags have retaken the lead over

1962
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 1: the Jets twenty two to seventeen. Mac Jones twenty four

1963
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 1: of thirty four, two hundred and twenty two yards, two touchdowns,

1964
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 1: and a pick. And right now with eleven minutes ago,

1965
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 1: could the Jets lose again? I mean, could they lose?

1966
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 1: They can't?

1967
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, I gretical area.

1968
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys remember this. They started the year two and one. Yeah,

1969
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 1: they're not good. They are now one and eight in

1970
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,640
Speaker 1: their last nine. Oh, I'm sorry, one and nine in

1971
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 1: their last ten.

1972
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:40,600
Speaker 2: How's Aaron Rodgers' stat line today? Because last week was

1973
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 2: his first three hundred yard passing games. Well, it's not

1974
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:45,679
Speaker 2: fourteen year twenty one.

1975
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 1: I know, he's ten of seventeen for all are one

1976
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three yards. But he does have two picks.

1977
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 1: He actually has a passer rating of one hundred and twenty.

1978
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 1: It also has no picks.

1979
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 10: You know, this is also a very bad Jaguars defense

1980
01:41:58,000 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 10: he's you know, playing against.

1981
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm watching right now. The Chiefs are beginning to struggle

1982
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, the way the Chiefs have

1983
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 1: played this season all year long, even when they have

1984
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 1: leads early like that game against the Chargers last week.

1985
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 1: Chargers had done zero right, yeah, and next so you know, boom, touchdown, touchdown,

1986
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 1: and they were leading down thirteen at the and a half.

1987
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 1: They were leading fourteen.

1988
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:20,720
Speaker 2: Thirteen again, all you're doing is encourage me. So you're

1989
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:24,839
Speaker 2: saying the Giants have a chance. All right, No, I'll.

1990
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 1: Tell you why. But I think the Browns have a

1991
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:28,719
Speaker 1: chance to get back in this game against the Chiefs.

1992
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:31,599
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why the Browns are having success is

1993
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 2: because Miles Garrett has been working against a offensive guard

1994
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:39,800
Speaker 2: slash center Joe Toney all day long, who they had

1995
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 2: a bump out to left tackle. They tried to plug

1996
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 2: the gap by bringing a guy in off his couch

1997
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 2: last week against the Chargers.

1998
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 1: That did not work. He immediately got injured.

1999
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 2: And so they have a reserve guard or I should

2000
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,679
Speaker 2: say a guard who's bumping out and he's like their

2001
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 2: emergency left tackle.

2002
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 1: And I mean, Miles is just savaging here.

2003
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 3: Like you guys were talking earlier about the Chiefs, is

2004
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 3: there another team in the NFL that would have the

2005
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,640
Speaker 3: season the Chiefs are having where you would be like,

2006
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 3: oh yeah, this team's gonna repeat. Like the only reason

2007
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 3: anybody likes chief is because of what they've done in

2008
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 3: the last couple of years.

2009
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 1: Listen to listen. This was the Eagles this year. This

2010
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: was the Jackers having the season we did a couple

2011
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 1: of years ago with the Pittsburgh Steelers, right, and the Vikings.

2012
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: They were kind of the same fugezy teams. Nice listen

2013
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 1: to this. Mahomes has two touchdowns, no picks. That's the

2014
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:31,720
Speaker 1: good news. Okay, he's fifteen of thirty two for one

2015
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:33,679
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight yards. Well, that's what I'm saying.

2016
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 1: Fifteen to thirty two for one hundred and twenty eight yards.

2017
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:40,720
Speaker 2: Back to back plays. Miles Garrett has decleted him.

2018
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 1: Actually, this is the Chiefs offensive line just collapsed. Yeah,

2019
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 1: he's just getting savage.

2020
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 2: Look, here's the thing they don't They don't have a

2021
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 2: very good offensive line this year, and they've had that

2022
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 2: in the past, and so it's been a fight the

2023
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 2: whole season for Mahomes. But the magic is still real

2024
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 2: because he does find ways to bail them out waiting

2025
01:43:58,920 --> 01:43:59,759
Speaker 2: games in close.

2026
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 1: To right, we get the final second, so the third quarter,

2027
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs punt away and the Rounds will have some

2028
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:07,599
Speaker 1: decent field goal field position. All right, let's find out

2029
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 1: what's rending right now. She's been following the games like us,

2030
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 1: but she takes it to the next level. A try

2031
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 1: the great Monty belanyas I try.

2032
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,679
Speaker 8: So Yeah, we'll start with this Chiefs Browns game. Because

2033
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 8: Cleveland has rolled out running back.

2034
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 6: Nick Chubb because of a foot injury.

2035
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 8: Chiefs are up twenty one to seven, and yes, Mahomes

2036
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 8: just took a nasty hit to end that drive in

2037
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 8: a punt.

2038
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 9: We've got the Titans, who you know.

2039
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 8: They benched Bill Evis after his third interception, which was

2040
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 8: a pick six. Mason Rudolph is in for the Titans.

2041
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 8: But it's all bangled so far. Thirty one fourteen, early

2042
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 8: in the fourth, Joe Burrow twenty two of thirty two

2043
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:45,560
Speaker 8: hundred and twenty nine yards and three touchdowns.

2044
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 9: The Commanders are beating the Saints twenty to ten.

2045
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 6: Eight minutes left in that one.

2046
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 9: There was a nice trick play.

2047
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 8: First, New Orleans benched Jake Hayner, they put in rookie

2048
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 8: Spencer Rattler, and they had a nice little trick play

2049
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 8: where wide receiver Cedric Wilson connected with Alvin Kamara, who

2050
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 8: is now to return with a groin injury for the Saints.

2051
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 6: Twenty ten is the score.

2052
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 8: Commanders on top all Ravens so far as you guys

2053
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 8: are talking, Sorry, Rich, I don't know why you thought

2054
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 8: the Giants could cover thirty five to seven is the

2055
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 8: score with about seven minutes to go in that one.

2056
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 8: How about this Cooper rush eighteen to twenty eight two

2057
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 8: hundred and fourteen yards and three touchdowns, and the Cowboys

2058
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 8: are beating the Panthers twenty seven to seven early in

2059
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 8: the fourth quarter. The Jags are back on top of

2060
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 8: the Jets twenty two seventeen eight minutes left in that one.

2061
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 8: Mac Jones twenty four to thirty four hundred and twenty

2062
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:32,719
Speaker 8: two yards and two touchdowns, both of them to Brian

2063
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 8: Thomas Junior. And the Texans are beating the Dolphins twenty

2064
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,439
Speaker 8: to twelve early in the fourth or was a really

2065
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 8: scary situation.

2066
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 6: For the Dolphins.

2067
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:42,599
Speaker 8: I don't know if you caught it on your screens,

2068
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 8: but wide receiver Grant Dubos was injured around in the

2069
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 8: middle of the field.

2070
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:48,720
Speaker 9: He took a hard hit, went down.

2071
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 8: The game stopped for twelve minutes as they attended to him.

2072
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:53,759
Speaker 9: They took off his jersey, his helmet.

2073
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 6: He was taken on a stretcher.

2074
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 8: He's been ruled out with the head injury stable condition, though,

2075
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 8: and was taken to a local hospital for further evaluation.

2076
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 1: Yes, Steve, I'm watching this play right now, Aaron Rodgers,

2077
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 1: I thought through a pass that was going into the

2078
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: end zone for a touchdown and the ball was knocked

2079
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 1: out of the hands of the Yes, was streaped.

2080
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 8: Yes, Oh, I don't mind them making showed.

2081
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers like you gotta be kidding. Yeah, I mean

2082
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 1: that was about as perfect.

2083
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 9: For sure.

2084
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 8: But it helps me because I'm playing against him in fantasy,

2085
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 8: so it helps me.

2086
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 6: Came the game's coming up.

2087
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 8: Chargers wide receiver Latin Monkey, active Bucks running back Bucky Irving,

2088
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 8: Active Bills tight end Dalton Kincaid active back to.

2089
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 1: You, the Jets just missed a field goal after that

2090
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 1: drop and it wasn't even I'm close.

2091
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 2: I mean, this thing came out there. Let's see SAPs good,

2092
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 2: holds good.

2093
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 1: And just it's like in a different zip code than

2094
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 1: the uprights, Jamie, not even close. Nothing is going well

2095
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:58,680
Speaker 1: for the Jets, so the Jets look like they were

2096
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 1: on the verge of retaking the lead. Instead, they get

2097
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: no points and the Jets still trail the Jaguars twenty

2098
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 1: two to seventeen. Jacks will take over inside eight minutes to.

2099
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 9: Go boil past to Moleak Neighbors touchdown Giant.

2100
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 1: What yards? Well, the way to it three for three

2101
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 1: week all leading is for the Giants. Just show a

2102
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 1: Lotle live all right, Well, hold on and the extra

2103
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 1: point is good thirty five to fourteen. So again, what

2104
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,480
Speaker 1: Rich needs is the Giants to get within two scores

2105
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 1: of the Ravens. Right, they're three twenty one down now

2106
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 1: six and a half minutes go, plenty of time, but

2107
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:40,639
Speaker 1: you got to stop Lamark Jackson, who again is twenty

2108
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 1: one of twenty five, two ninety yards, five touchdowns, no picks.

2109
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you.

2110
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:50,719
Speaker 2: If you replace the Giants defense with overturned trash cans,

2111
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:52,560
Speaker 2: would would.

2112
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: It be better? I'm just maybe I'm an idea guy. Yeah,

2113
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:58,599
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, by the way, the Browns are

2114
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 1: in an idea guy. Yeah, he's an idea Yeah.

2115
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:03,720
Speaker 3: Can I just say real quick, I've kind of been

2116
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 3: struggling to get into the holiday spirit this year, but

2117
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 3: watching the Tennessee Titans today really get into the spirit

2118
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 3: of giving has It's made my heart grow.

2119
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 10: At least three signs. Maybe to borrow the Salvation Army

2120
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 10: buckets from the outs.

2121
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 3: They just threw an interception.

2122
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 1: I have a hard time believe he's across multiple beautiful

2123
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 1: little girler of yours here. You can't get into the

2124
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 1: holiday spirit, you know.

2125
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:28,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

2126
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,680
Speaker 1: By the way, as someone with a twenty three year

2127
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 1: old daughter, I can tell you if you think you're

2128
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 1: giving now, you have no idea what's ahead.

2129
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,719
Speaker 3: She saw a photo of the Grench on the TV

2130
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 3: yesterday and screamed like she'd seen a ghost. It was.

2131
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,600
Speaker 1: It was incredible. The Browns have now gotten all the

2132
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 1: way to a first down at the cheese twenty nine

2133
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 1: yard line. So the Browns had done zero in this game, yep,

2134
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,639
Speaker 1: and it was twenty one nothing Chiefs. Then they score,

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01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 1: and then they sack, well almost sack. Basically threw the

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01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 1: ball away to avoid a sack. And oh, Jamis just

2137
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 1: through an end zone interception right on cue. I mean,

2138
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 1: as soon as I start to talk up a team

2139
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 1: Jameis winston Is, I mean, will forever be this It

2140
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:15,440
Speaker 1: is feast or famine.

2141
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 2: You're either getting Jamis who throws for fourteen yards or

2142
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 2: excuse me, for four touchdowns and four hundred yards, or

2143
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna get Jamis who throws two interceptions. And I mean,

2144
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 2: especially when you get into the fringe area you're into

2145
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:28,839
Speaker 2: the red.

2146
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:32,800
Speaker 1: Zone is a first down play. I mean, it wasn't

2147
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 1: like third and long, and maybe you're trying to make

2148
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 1: something happen first down at the twenty nine yard Let

2149
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 1: me just force this one his third interception of the

2150
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 1: game to defenders and try to get it to my

2151
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: receivers well covered in the N zone on FA corner.

2152
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:51,799
Speaker 2: By the way, when you're basically guaranteed three points because

2153
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:54,559
Speaker 2: you're at the twenty nine yard life, Nah, I'm just

2154
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 2: gonna risk it all. Jameis Winston, he will never change.

2155
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:02,240
Speaker 2: This will for be the way he plays this game.

2156
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 1: By the way, I was reminded last night. So I'm

2157
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 1: watching the Heisman ceremony and they're introducing the returning Heisman guys,

2158
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 1: and from the twenty tens, Cam Newton was there first

2159
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 1: time he'd come back RG three and Johnny Manzil reminding

2160
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 1: you again, that's the cutoff every Heisman winner since twenty thirteen,

2161
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 1: which of the year Winston won it is currently playing

2162
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Oh wow, Yeah, so there's there's that. Uh,

2163
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 1: but Winston is the cutoff point. But after his third

2164
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: pick of this game, I don't know what future he

2165
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 1: has he has been horrific today. And by the way,

2166
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 1: I think, as it should be.

2167
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 2: If you win the Heisman and somehow you're not still

2168
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:41,680
Speaker 2: playing football after ten years in the NFL, I mean

2169
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,639
Speaker 2: outside of injury, of course, right, I mean, it means

2170
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 2: something had to go horribly wrong because that skill set

2171
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 2: it has to transfer. I mean, you're the top player

2172
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 2: in college football for.

2173
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 1: The time out. That is the idea.

2174
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 2: So I mean, so, yeah, that's that makes sense. Here's

2175
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 2: the here's the problem for gen though. Jamis is playing

2176
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:04,839
Speaker 2: like a guy who's ready to move into who.

2177
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 1: Has well, the guy that won the Heisman the year

2178
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,600
Speaker 1: after him technically still in the league. Marcus Mariota.

2179
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's barely hanging on bouncing around. I mean,

2180
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,959
Speaker 2: has has won a lot of jobs just on potential.

2181
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's interesting is that after that he

2182
01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:23,559
Speaker 1: got Derrick Henry, who's going to the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

2183
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. I mean he's he's probably on the Hall

2184
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 1: of Fame. He's on the Hall of Fame path. You

2185
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 1: have Baker Mayfield, who is not a Hall of Famer,

2186
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 1: but certainly a quality quarterback.

2187
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:35,760
Speaker 4: In this league.

2188
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 2: He's now revived the Tampa Bay Buccaneers after the Brady years.

2189
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 1: You have Kyler Murray, who is been a Pro Bowl,

2190
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 1: legit Pro Bowl quarterback in this league. You have Joe

2191
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 1: Burrow excellent. You have Demonte Smith waiting for a quarterback

2192
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 1: to get more passes in his direction. Bryce Young, you

2193
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 1: have Caleb Williams. You have Jaden Daniels among them.

2194
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 2: I would say the biggest question mark would be Bryce

2195
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 2: Young of that group in terms of we don't know

2196
01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:10,720
Speaker 2: yet in terms of who out of that group is

2197
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 2: the worst performer in the NFL. I guess it has

2198
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 2: to go to Marcus Mariota. I mean just in terms

2199
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,759
Speaker 2: of how it panned out as a starter and then where.

2200
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 1: He's been since.

2201
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 2: Jamis has had a few more opportunities, and some of

2202
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 2: them have gone well, Like when he showed up with

2203
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 2: New Orleans and it was Sean Payton coaching him through

2204
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 2: that breeze injury.

2205
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 1: Year, right, Jamis looked good, all right. Coming up on

2206
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 1: the other side, we do have games now heading toward

2207
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:41,320
Speaker 1: the finish line. We're hoping, keeping our fingers crossed, we're

2208
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 1: gonna have some exciting finishes to find out the results.

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Speaker 1: Keep it here. This is Red Zone Radio four to

2210
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:50,719
Speaker 1: three at the Ravens twenty three a to sat for Boyle.

2211
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 1: Another free runner lots one to the light into the

2212
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 1: end zone, caught by neighbors. Touchdown Giants. That's the Giant.

2213
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 1: It's radio network, ladies and gentlemen. The Giants still have

2214
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:06,600
Speaker 1: a long ways to go, though they are trailing the

2215
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 1: Ravens thirty five to fourteen, four minutes ago in the

2216
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:12,599
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Once again red zone radio. Here Steve Harbin

2217
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:15,639
Speaker 1: Rich Ornberger live from the tire rack dot Com studios.

2218
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 1: All right, quick rundown of the scores. Chiefs over the

2219
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,879
Speaker 1: Browns twenty one to seven, eight minutes to go. Bengals

2220
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:24,640
Speaker 1: lead the Titans thirty one to fourteen, nine and a

2221
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 1: half minutes to go. Commander's over the Saints twenty thirteen.

2222
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 1: It's a one score game. Commanders have the ball six

2223
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,959
Speaker 1: minutes to go. Ravens over the Giants thirty five to fourteen,

2224
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 1: four minutes to go. Now here's where it gets interesting.

2225
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:39,639
Speaker 1: Well that this game. Cowboys lead the Panthers twenty seven

2226
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 1: to fourteen, nine minutes to go. Texans over the Dolphins

2227
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 1: twenty to twelve, four and a half minutes to go.

2228
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 1: Dolphins with the ball, and guess what, the Jets just

2229
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 1: re took the lead.

2230
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Davonte Adams with a huge, huge bomb from Rogers

2231
01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 2: and then he made like three to miss and he

2232
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 2: was able to barrel his way over the last two

2233
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 2: into the end zone.

2234
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 1: Incredible play Devonte Adams today seven catches, one hundred and

2235
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 1: thirty four yards and two touchdowns.

2236
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:14,880
Speaker 2: It has officially been an offensive explosion over the past

2237
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 2: two weeks for Rogers and Devonte Adams, his favorite target

2238
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 2: from years pass.

2239
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:22,639
Speaker 1: They're finally on the same page week fifteen, all right,

2240
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 1: and the Jets get the two point conversion. So the

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01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 1: Jets lead the Jaguars now twenty five to twenty two.

2242
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 1: We got three and a half minutes to go in

2243
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 1: that game. Commander's Saints is suddenly a one score game.

2244
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 1: Did you see the trick play earlier to Camara? It

2245
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 1: was a beauty.

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01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 2: They threw it to the sideline receiver, throws it to

2247
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 2: the wheel route Kamara one hand to grab into the

2248
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 2: end zone. So a little trickeration to keep their hopes

2249
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 2: alive today. But yeah, one score game, Washington leading twenty

2250
01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 2: to thirteen in the fourth.

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01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 1: Well, they started Jake Hayner, who we know from his

2252
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 1: Fresno State days, and he was awful, and so they

2253
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 1: put Spencer Rattler in, who's not a whole lot better.

2254
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:12,800
Speaker 1: I mean, the Saints passing numbers ten or twenty five

2255
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 1: and Jade and Daniels is twenty three of twenty seven.

2256
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:20,080
Speaker 1: And yet it's a one score game. Well, and then

2257
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 1: also there's Cedric Wilson who's won for one with a

2258
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 1: touchdown past to Kamara. Okay, that doesn't count. It does count,

2259
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 1: but it doesn't count. H Yeah, yeah, Jake Hayner right, no, yeah,

2260
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 1: I I'll never forget when Jake Hayner led a last

2261
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 1: minute drive against UCLA to beat them Freslo State beat

2262
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 1: Ucla was the worst defense I've ever seen ever. I Mean,

2263
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 1: it was like no timeouts, you know, thirty seconds length

2264
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 1: of the field. It was like past past, past touchdown

2265
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 1: president State wins.

2266
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 2: Jay Hayner was a little bit of a baller man

2267
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 2: in college. Oh, he was a player. He was a

2268
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:56,720
Speaker 2: scrappy player, really good in clutch time, kind of unflappable.

2269
01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, at the NFL level, it's moving a little

2270
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 2: for Jacob the Snake out the Titans trying to get

2271
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:05,120
Speaker 2: back in this game. Against the Bengals. Down to the

2272
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 2: seventeen yard line, trailing the Bengals thirty one to fourteen,

2273
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 2: Burroughs had his usual grade day. The problem is is

2274
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 2: that Will Levis almost on cue every game, throws at

2275
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:16,520
Speaker 2: least one pick six, and he did it again.

2276
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 1: He almost had another.

2277
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:21,879
Speaker 2: Well, actually it wasn't him who it was Tony Pollard

2278
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 2: who fumbled it. I thought it was a pick six also,

2279
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 2: but we later discovered that it was. Cincinnati picked up

2280
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 2: a fumble, almost recovered and ran it in, but that

2281
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 2: player battle dropped it and it gave Tennessee the ball back.

2282
01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 2: That game has been a sloppy mess. So has the Giants'

2283
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:42,800
Speaker 2: efforts against the Baltimore Ravens. But somehow Someway with two

2284
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:47,800
Speaker 2: forty three left, trailing thirty five to fourteen, the offense

2285
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 2: is back on the field to somehow make this plus

2286
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 2: sixteen bet on the Giants, right.

2287
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if do you believe in miracles, Steve.

2288
01:56:57,440 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 1: It's fourth and fourth from their own nineteen we go

2289
01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 1: and and the pass is not close. Oh no, there's

2290
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 1: a penalty play. You are still alive. It's gonna be

2291
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 1: the back door cover of book. This pass was not catchable.

2292
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: I mean this pass was not nowhere in the vicinity.

2293
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,959
Speaker 1: They gave a gift automatic first down for the Giants

2294
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 1: right now. He threw that pass in New Jersey. It

2295
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 1: landed in Nashall County. Al was like where was this

2296
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:31,000
Speaker 1: past too? Like he was he grabbed his belt for

2297
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 1: like half a second. That pass was all right?

2298
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 2: So listen, but guys, fresh set of downs, first and ten,

2299
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 2: Timmy the top to go.

2300
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 1: You gotta give the time to twenty three to go.

2301
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:45,320
Speaker 1: Look at that twelve penalties against the Ravens game.

2302
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 2: I mean they don't deserve this thirty five points they've got.

2303
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean, there we go so indisciplined. Tim Boyle throws

2304
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 1: deep in. It is right into.

2305
01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:55,880
Speaker 11: Right.

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01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean that was By the way, I haven't exactly

2307
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 1: zero dollars on this.

2308
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:05,920
Speaker 2: I just want bragging rights because Jason Smith, Brian know,

2309
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 2: the past couple of years, they have just been beating

2310
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:10,880
Speaker 2: me and beating me in a rapid fire pick selection

2311
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio's Countdowns kickoff right here on the network.

2312
01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 2: And this year I'm in the lead, buddy, and I'm

2313
01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm two for two.

2314
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 1: So if some have but my point is, why of

2315
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 1: all the teams to bet on. Why would you bet

2316
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:27,040
Speaker 1: on the giants? Me? What been so good at home?

2317
01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 1: What made you say? All right, I got a choice

2318
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 1: of any game. I could take it over under, I

2319
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 1: could do a different and you took the Giants because

2320
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 1: there's something magic about Tommy cold cuts around the holidays.

2321
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:42,480
Speaker 1: There's never been anything magic about Tommy.

2322
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 2: Right now, winding the seven fishes a feastis seven fish?

2323
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 1: Thank you? I mean, think you? Because I sent my

2324
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 1: priers to Saint Anthony last night, I said, saying Anthony,

2325
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 1: he's the patriot saint of miracles. That was like, I

2326
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 1: need a miracle in New York.

2327
01:58:56,640 --> 01:58:58,800
Speaker 3: In fairness to rich he did make that bet before

2328
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 3: Tommy to hurt?

2329
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 1: Also true, so also true.

2330
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 3: Not known that Tim Boyle was gonna be playing in

2331
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 3: this game?

2332
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 1: How may di Vita was awful in this game? Okay?

2333
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,400
Speaker 2: By the way, did he get hurt coming off the bus?

2334
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:11,280
Speaker 2: How did that happen in the first place? I mean,

2335
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 2: what is happening right now?

2336
01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:16,360
Speaker 1: How do you? How is the line sixteen points against you?

2337
01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 1: If you have pride? Was it sixteen and a half?

2338
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 4: Good?

2339
01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 1: Lord? I mean, how do you? How do you get

2340
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 1: out to the field? And be like, I mean, can

2341
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 1: I make it quick to observation, hold our hold our beer.

2342
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna get beat by a million. I have seen

2343
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 1: a million plays in the NFL over the years, right,

2344
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:34,959
Speaker 1: and I know that every play is designed to succeed.

2345
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 1: But there there are plays I watched like what was

2346
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:39,840
Speaker 1: the thinking on that play?

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Speaker 11: Like?

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01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:43,600
Speaker 1: Why there is if you honestly think that play was

2349
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:47,080
Speaker 1: gonna be successful, it's unreal much Mark coming up Aaron

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Speaker 1: Giants covering the spread came to a crashing end as

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Speaker 1: the Ravens held on held on to beat the Giants

2359
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:20,120
Speaker 1: thirty five to fourteen. Again Lamar Jackson twenty one to

2360
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:23,400
Speaker 1: twenty five, two hundred ninety yards, five touchdowns and no

2361
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:26,320
Speaker 1: picks in that game. So if the game's going on right,

2362
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:30,120
Speaker 1: now we have a one score game with the Commanders

2363
02:00:30,160 --> 02:00:33,560
Speaker 1: and the Saints. But the Saints just missed the field

2364
02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:34,880
Speaker 1: goal attempt, Chris.

2365
02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 10: Yes, it was a long field goal attempt that would

2366
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 10: have put them I mean the Commanders, excuse me, just missed.

2367
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Speaker 1: The Oh so the Commanders did those Saints give the points?

2368
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:45,040
Speaker 1: Saints have the ball down seven, yeah, and they are

2369
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 1: in Commander's territory. So the Saints are back in this

2370
02:00:48,080 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 1: game right now, they have a second intend at the

2371
02:00:50,440 --> 02:00:52,600
Speaker 1: Commander's forty four yard line, a minute and a half

2372
02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:55,520
Speaker 1: to go. Saints trailing the Commanders twenty or thirteen. And

2373
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, Jaguars kicked a field goal to tie

2374
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:03,000
Speaker 1: up this game with the Jets. Can Aaron Rodgers leada

2375
02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:05,640
Speaker 1: come from me? I'm victory here? By the way, he

2376
02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:07,880
Speaker 1: just threw a pass to DeVante Adams for a big

2377
02:01:07,920 --> 02:01:11,640
Speaker 1: game there on third and ten. DeVante Adams. It's just

2378
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 1: having a day playing like a monster. Yeah.

2379
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:18,280
Speaker 2: And the Saints within striking distance of the Commanders the Jets.

2380
02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:19,800
Speaker 2: I mean, all of a sudden, we have a couple

2381
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:20,400
Speaker 2: of games.

2382
02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:23,480
Speaker 1: Man. You know, there's things happen in here, all right.

2383
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:25,280
Speaker 1: So these are two games. The other game that is

2384
02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:28,680
Speaker 1: still technically allied the Texans and the Dolphins. Texans lead

2385
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 1: twenty to twelve. Devonte Adams.

2386
02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:35,839
Speaker 2: If you are a DeVante Adams fantasy owner, holy smokes,

2387
02:01:35,880 --> 02:01:38,040
Speaker 2: you are thrilled with his box score. I'm gonna read

2388
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:41,360
Speaker 2: it to you right now. He's got eight receptions for

2389
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:44,640
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty seven yards and two touchdowns. Yes,

2390
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:47,280
Speaker 2: he had that long reception of seventy one yards. He's

2391
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:50,080
Speaker 2: been targeted eleven times and caught eight of them. It's

2392
02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:54,160
Speaker 2: it's just been that type of day where everything that

2393
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:57,480
Speaker 2: was promised between Rogers and Adams when he was traded

2394
02:01:57,480 --> 02:01:59,400
Speaker 2: to New York has come to fruition.

2395
02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:02,080
Speaker 1: It's just by the way, it only too little, too late.

2396
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:04,840
Speaker 1: Every one of those receptions in the second half. He

2397
02:02:04,880 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 1: had no catches at halftime, So you know about a

2398
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 1: monster half. That's what Devonte Adams has had. Earlier, his

2399
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:13,760
Speaker 1: first touchdown was the one hundredth career receiving touchdown of

2400
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 1: his career, just the twelfth player ever to reach that mark.

2401
02:02:16,640 --> 02:02:19,240
Speaker 1: So right now it is second and ten for the Jets.

2402
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:22,240
Speaker 1: They are at the Jacksonville forty seven yard line. We

2403
02:02:22,320 --> 02:02:24,360
Speaker 1: got a minute and a half to go. In the

2404
02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:26,640
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, Saints ol seven minute and a half to

2405
02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:29,960
Speaker 1: go try to make their comeback against the Commanders, and

2406
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:32,760
Speaker 1: there is Aaron Rodgers running out of bed.

2407
02:02:32,920 --> 02:02:33,080
Speaker 12: Uh.

2408
02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:36,840
Speaker 1: Oh, they might throw a flag. He was hit late. Well,

2409
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:40,520
Speaker 1: he wasn't really like he tripped. Doesn't look like any flag. Yeah, no,

2410
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if were he tripped.

2411
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 2: No, no, look at out of bounds. He was contacted

2412
02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:49,160
Speaker 2: on the white No, I was right there.

2413
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:49,640
Speaker 11: Oh.

2414
02:02:49,760 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 1: Actually, maybe you know what.

2415
02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:55,560
Speaker 2: Credit to the Jacksonville Jaguars linebacker because he tapped him

2416
02:02:55,600 --> 02:02:57,640
Speaker 2: on the shoulder and pulled off in a big way.

2417
02:02:57,800 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 1: Rogers try to sell a flop. He tried to shell

2418
02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 1: the flop and it was no sirt. Tell you what.

2419
02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:05,320
Speaker 1: He almost twisted his ankle with that flop. He's gonna

2420
02:03:05,320 --> 02:03:07,480
Speaker 1: have to do a better flop job. Good job by

2421
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:10,760
Speaker 1: the officiating. Another final in it is over. Texans defeat

2422
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:14,720
Speaker 1: the Dolphins twenty to twelve. Dolphins playoff hopes are pretty

2423
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:17,360
Speaker 1: much over. Texans get to nine and five, extending their

2424
02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:20,880
Speaker 1: lead in that division. All right, So again, Jets, with

2425
02:03:20,920 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 1: a minute twenty nine to go, have a third and

2426
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:26,240
Speaker 1: five at the Jacksonville forty two yard line. Meanwhile, the

2427
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 1: Saints now have a third and one at the thirty

2428
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:30,920
Speaker 1: thirty two.

2429
02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:34,400
Speaker 2: No, they're on a first intent. They converted and so

2430
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:37,480
Speaker 2: oh now in a minute to go, one minute left,

2431
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 2: only one time out hand on another to first down

2432
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:43,840
Speaker 2: goes all the way down to the eighteen yard line

2433
02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:46,800
Speaker 2: for the Saints, and so the clock is rolling here

2434
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:48,400
Speaker 2: and my guests will take the timeout.

2435
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:51,720
Speaker 1: Okay, they have one time out remaining, so they may

2436
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 1: have to hold off on that. Again, they need a

2437
02:03:54,280 --> 02:03:57,360
Speaker 1: touchdown out of field goals go. Spencer Rawlers snaps the

2438
02:03:57,400 --> 02:03:59,640
Speaker 1: ball and they're stuffed in the backfield. What are you

2439
02:03:59,680 --> 02:04:03,000
Speaker 1: running the ball for? What's that? See again, I'm trying

2440
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:05,360
Speaker 1: to figure out. Okay, let's call a run here. What

2441
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:08,040
Speaker 1: do you think? Let's thirty seven mix it up with

2442
02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:10,400
Speaker 1: thirty seconds though, and we need to get a touchdown.

2443
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:12,560
Speaker 2: And it's back to back runs by the way, which

2444
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:14,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't get it. But here they go.

2445
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:17,280
Speaker 2: They're second and twelve. Now they've taken the time out.

2446
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:19,680
Speaker 2: They're inside the twenty of the Washington team.

2447
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:23,080
Speaker 1: Back bets. Now we got him on third and five

2448
02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:26,080
Speaker 1: at the forty two yard line. Jet's trying to at

2449
02:04:26,080 --> 02:04:28,839
Speaker 1: the very least get into field goal position, but critical

2450
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:33,240
Speaker 1: right now to get the first down. And Aaron Rodgers

2451
02:04:33,400 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 1: is going to scramble and he throws nice pass wide open.

2452
02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:42,160
Speaker 1: Devonte Adams is DeVonta Adams that way over and he

2453
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:43,720
Speaker 1: gets all the way to the one yard line.

2454
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:46,760
Speaker 2: Nobody was within twenty yards of Devonte Adams.

2455
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:50,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so here's what happens. So it looked like Rogers

2456
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:53,760
Speaker 1: was scrambling to his right, and then Devonte Adams just

2457
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:56,480
Speaker 1: ran across the field and everyone just stopped. No one

2458
02:04:56,520 --> 02:04:58,720
Speaker 1: covered him. Yeah, and he saw him and he was

2459
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:01,280
Speaker 1: literally all alone. He was in man coverage.

2460
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:05,000
Speaker 2: His defender sloughed off because I guess he thought that

2461
02:05:05,120 --> 02:05:08,200
Speaker 2: Rogers were gonna tuck it and run. He didn't found

2462
02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:11,360
Speaker 2: DeVante all the way across the field, pitched it out

2463
02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:12,200
Speaker 2: to him in the flat.

2464
02:05:12,440 --> 02:05:13,320
Speaker 1: Nobody was home.

2465
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:16,839
Speaker 2: He ran twenty five yards unabated before he was contacted

2466
02:05:16,840 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 2: and brought down with one third and three now seints

2467
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:21,320
Speaker 2: strong for the end zone incomplete.

2468
02:05:21,480 --> 02:05:23,600
Speaker 1: Okay, well we're gonna have a fourth down play with

2469
02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:27,040
Speaker 1: seventeen seconds to go, and again the Saints need a

2470
02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:31,120
Speaker 1: touchdown to tie this game or go for two and

2471
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:35,320
Speaker 1: the win. Yeah, trailing twenty to thirteen in the way Orleans.

2472
02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:37,480
Speaker 1: I got a surer look at that throw. He was

2473
02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:39,520
Speaker 1: trying to find his Well. How about these update on

2474
02:05:39,560 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams nine catches, one hundred and ninety eight yards

2475
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:45,960
Speaker 1: and two scores all in the second half. He had

2476
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 1: no catches at half time.

2477
02:05:47,600 --> 02:05:50,920
Speaker 2: He was only serialed twice in the first half. He

2478
02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:51,920
Speaker 2: caught none of them.

2479
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:54,280
Speaker 1: I guess somebody told Aaron Rodgers, you know, we did

2480
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:57,360
Speaker 1: make a deal to get DeVante Adams, right, Remember that

2481
02:05:57,440 --> 02:05:59,080
Speaker 1: guy that you threw the pass to with the.

2482
02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:02,040
Speaker 2: Zillion tire hangar real quick for the game fourth and three,

2483
02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:04,240
Speaker 2: Spencer round you one, dude, take a knee.

2484
02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:06,920
Speaker 1: You gotta let him in the end zone. Yeah, well

2485
02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:09,280
Speaker 1: that's a smart play by Jacksonville. You want to have

2486
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:11,680
Speaker 1: some time left on your clock. So now we have

2487
02:06:11,720 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 1: a hurt all right. Here, Here we go, Here we go,

2488
02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:17,480
Speaker 1: here we go six funke it full over there you go. Okay,

2489
02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:20,640
Speaker 1: so what is happening right there? Three seconds left, so

2490
02:06:20,720 --> 02:06:22,560
Speaker 1: probably one shot at the end zone here.

2491
02:06:22,680 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Saints Saints trailing by seven points. Spencer Rattler

2492
02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 2: found I think it was his running back on the

2493
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:31,560
Speaker 2: previous play.

2494
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:33,720
Speaker 1: No, his tight end leak out, but he didn't get

2495
02:06:33,720 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 1: in the end zone and they had no time out,

2496
02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:38,000
Speaker 1: so the clock was running and they were able to

2497
02:06:38,040 --> 02:06:41,120
Speaker 1: stop the clock with three seconds left. It's also fourth down,

2498
02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:44,240
Speaker 1: so this is it. Jets right now, line up for

2499
02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:47,680
Speaker 1: the extra point. It is good. Thirty two to twenty five. Jets.

2500
02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:50,160
Speaker 1: Jacksonville will have a minute five to go to try

2501
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:50,880
Speaker 1: to tip the game.

2502
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:53,800
Speaker 2: Here're going to play in New Orleans. Let's see if

2503
02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:55,760
Speaker 2: they can get in the zone.

2504
02:06:56,280 --> 02:07:03,640
Speaker 1: Alright, alright, touchdown, sir Moree all's on his All right,

2505
02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 1: they're going for two. Well, I mean, what do the

2506
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:08,320
Speaker 1: Saints have to lose?

2507
02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:10,240
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, of course they are. I mean

2508
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:13,400
Speaker 2: they're at home only once they're five and eighteen. Yeah,

2509
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 2: everybody wants to go home.

2510
02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:18,880
Speaker 1: So Spencer Rattler feeling pretty good about himself right now.

2511
02:07:19,160 --> 02:07:21,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, the Saints are going to go for two

2512
02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:23,960
Speaker 1: and the win. There is no time left on the clock.

2513
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:26,520
Speaker 1: We got all zeros right now, so this is it

2514
02:07:26,720 --> 02:07:31,560
Speaker 1: crazy either win or lose. Commanders were leading twenty to thirteen.

2515
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:36,280
Speaker 1: With that score, Saints now trailing by one, twenty to nineteen,

2516
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:40,240
Speaker 1: ball game two point conversion. No way, I'm on the clock.

2517
02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:42,680
Speaker 1: By the way, if the Commander Commanders call time, think

2518
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:46,120
Speaker 1: about this. Commanders lose this game. All of a sudden,

2519
02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 1: they're tied with the Rams at eight and six. So

2520
02:07:49,480 --> 02:07:52,600
Speaker 1: the Commanders, we wondered early.

2521
02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:55,360
Speaker 2: On, my gosh, did Jameis Winston just throw his fourth

2522
02:07:55,400 --> 02:07:57,120
Speaker 2: interception of the historian times?

2523
02:07:57,320 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 8: You know?

2524
02:07:57,680 --> 02:08:01,080
Speaker 2: Dtrs okay, okay, So DTR has now added to the

2525
02:08:01,120 --> 02:08:01,720
Speaker 2: pick party.

2526
02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 1: The Chiefs will come away with.

2527
02:08:04,760 --> 02:08:08,360
Speaker 10: Theirs with multiple quarterbacks throwing multiple pits.

2528
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:10,520
Speaker 1: Right, so the Chiefs go from being the worst twelve

2529
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:13,480
Speaker 1: to one team to the worst thirteen to one. That's correct. Hey,

2530
02:08:13,480 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 1: this one's a multi a multi score win for them.

2531
02:08:16,600 --> 02:08:18,240
Speaker 1: That's true, all right here, right here, we go two

2532
02:08:18,280 --> 02:08:21,520
Speaker 1: point conversion for the game. Right now, the Saints, looking

2533
02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:25,000
Speaker 1: for either victory or defeat. Rattler will roll out, he

2534
02:08:25,120 --> 02:08:30,200
Speaker 1: throws and it is now Hans and that's awful. And

2535
02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 1: then that means the Cabadners win the game. And that's

2536
02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:36,680
Speaker 1: a huge win for the Commanders as they move to

2537
02:08:36,920 --> 02:08:40,240
Speaker 1: nine and five on the season. Huge win, and that

2538
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:43,200
Speaker 1: really pretty much eliminates the Saints.

2539
02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:47,240
Speaker 2: So with that interception, the Cleveland Browns day is over.

2540
02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:51,160
Speaker 2: It'll be Casey kneeling on the football twenty one to

2541
02:08:51,280 --> 02:08:55,320
Speaker 2: seven victory in Cleveland, So another notch in the belt

2542
02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 2: for Casey, who continues to baffle everyone and the Fire

2543
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:04,120
Speaker 2: all odds even though they've played poorly this season, advanced

2544
02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:05,360
Speaker 2: to a thirteen to one record.

2545
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:07,800
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, Steve, there is still a game alive

2546
02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:09,680
Speaker 1: right now. We got what we got that would be

2547
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:11,880
Speaker 1: the Jaguars and the Jets. All right, we got a

2548
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:13,120
Speaker 1: minute to go in the game.

2549
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:18,680
Speaker 13: Jack, much time for Mac Jones twenty four Jaguars, Never

2550
02:09:18,760 --> 02:09:21,680
Speaker 13: say Doc, and the Jags have two timeouts left, Yes,

2551
02:09:21,760 --> 02:09:23,160
Speaker 13: say so, they they have.

2552
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:25,400
Speaker 1: They have a way to get there, but they need

2553
02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:28,440
Speaker 1: a touchdown and getting four yard passes over the middle.

2554
02:09:28,640 --> 02:09:31,880
Speaker 1: I will say this, Mcowen has played with a great

2555
02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:35,440
Speaker 1: deal of confidence today. He is twenty nine to forty

2556
02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:39,000
Speaker 1: two to two seventy seven, two touchdowns and a pick.

2557
02:09:39,440 --> 02:09:41,520
Speaker 1: But there have been times where he's gotten it done

2558
02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:44,360
Speaker 1: with his legs. I mean, I'm not saying it's a

2559
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:47,520
Speaker 1: perfect game. That obviously is not, but he hasn't looked bad.

2560
02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:48,640
Speaker 1: He has he does.

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02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:52,080
Speaker 2: Mac Jones can play at this league level. He's He's

2562
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:54,560
Speaker 2: a backup for sure right now. In his career. I

2563
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:56,600
Speaker 2: think there's plenty he needs to learn, but he can

2564
02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:57,520
Speaker 2: play at this left.

2565
02:09:57,480 --> 02:10:00,760
Speaker 1: Case I'm watching. Mahomes was out of the game because

2566
02:10:00,760 --> 02:10:04,080
Speaker 1: he is limping. He got beat up a lot. They

2567
02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:07,920
Speaker 1: subbed in Carson Wentz in the fourth quarter. Yeah, because

2568
02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:10,720
Speaker 1: he was getting savaged by this Cleveland Browns defense. And

2569
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:13,360
Speaker 1: it was at a point where it looked like the

2570
02:10:13,400 --> 02:10:15,960
Speaker 1: Browns didn't want to play football anymore because they kept

2571
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:18,640
Speaker 1: throwing it to the Chiefs like Jamis Winston was doing it.

2572
02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:21,480
Speaker 2: And then you just saw dtr do it again. So

2573
02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:23,560
Speaker 2: I think they felt safe that they could secure the

2574
02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:24,760
Speaker 2: win and give him a little rest.

2575
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:26,760
Speaker 1: All right, Mac Jones just threw about as bad a

2576
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:29,520
Speaker 1: pass as you're ever gonna see. Okay, that one sailed on. Yeah,

2577
02:10:29,560 --> 02:10:32,720
Speaker 1: that's give me some p I off, you know. Yeah,

2578
02:10:32,760 --> 02:10:35,320
Speaker 1: you had a receiver that you could have gotten the

2579
02:10:35,320 --> 02:10:37,120
Speaker 1: ball there on the sidelines.

2580
02:10:36,600 --> 02:10:39,520
Speaker 2: And stead he elected to throw it seventeen stories over

2581
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:39,840
Speaker 2: his head.

2582
02:10:40,000 --> 02:10:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was not a good play.

2583
02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:43,360
Speaker 3: I really hope the Jaguars tie this because I want

2584
02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:45,880
Speaker 3: to do a week of conversation on why the Jets

2585
02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:46,680
Speaker 3: scored too early.

2586
02:10:47,560 --> 02:10:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, remember last week we thought the Jets had

2587
02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:52,800
Speaker 1: the game right last week. We thought, all right, they're

2588
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:56,120
Speaker 1: gonna win, and and then it didn't happen. So the

2589
02:10:56,200 --> 02:10:58,040
Speaker 1: Jets have found ways to lose games all year.

2590
02:10:58,160 --> 02:10:59,320
Speaker 3: Lot I thought they were going to win and it

2591
02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:01,640
Speaker 3: didn't happen. Twenty twenty four, Jets.

2592
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:03,600
Speaker 2: Back Jones just found a receiver on the on the

2593
02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:06,960
Speaker 2: sideline that they still have a timeout left because that was.

2594
02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:09,560
Speaker 1: Or a third and short. Here, what are we looking at?

2595
02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 1: We have a third and one, but they still have

2596
02:11:13,000 --> 02:11:16,120
Speaker 1: a timeout remaining forty four seconds left. The clock has

2597
02:11:16,240 --> 02:11:19,440
Speaker 1: stopped too much time for Mack Jones and they are

2598
02:11:19,480 --> 02:11:25,440
Speaker 1: at the forty Where are they right now? They're in

2599
02:11:25,600 --> 02:11:29,200
Speaker 1: Jets territory. I know that we're past midfield. They need

2600
02:11:29,240 --> 02:11:31,080
Speaker 1: to play right here. All right, let's see they are

2601
02:11:31,120 --> 02:11:34,200
Speaker 1: at the forty seven yard line of the Jets. All right,

2602
02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:38,560
Speaker 1: So there's a timeout. It's not going to be called

2603
02:11:38,600 --> 02:11:39,200
Speaker 1: a timeout.

2604
02:11:39,280 --> 02:11:41,600
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a booth review on the We're going to

2605
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:43,960
Speaker 2: see if he actually caught it. And now we go

2606
02:11:44,120 --> 02:11:49,480
Speaker 2: back they're showing on the broadcast. Is it is it Allan? Yeah?

2607
02:11:49,520 --> 02:11:51,640
Speaker 1: It was Allen who scored on the touch. Why did

2608
02:11:51,640 --> 02:11:56,040
Speaker 1: they keep reshowing that play? So what they're saying is

2609
02:11:56,040 --> 02:12:00,560
Speaker 1: is what the clock was running on that really concession touchdown.

2610
02:12:00,600 --> 02:12:03,040
Speaker 1: It was as they gave it to the Jets so

2611
02:12:03,080 --> 02:12:05,360
Speaker 1: that they would have some time remaining on the clock.

2612
02:12:06,040 --> 02:12:09,840
Speaker 1: But now they're reviewing his sideline pass and we've got

2613
02:12:10,080 --> 02:12:15,000
Speaker 1: one I think he caught it. Two heel. Do you

2614
02:12:15,000 --> 02:12:15,800
Speaker 1: think the heel's in.

2615
02:12:16,040 --> 02:12:16,720
Speaker 3: I think it's in.

2616
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:17,560
Speaker 1: I think it's in.

2617
02:12:17,680 --> 02:12:20,080
Speaker 2: I think he caught that football. Yeah, I mean, they'll

2618
02:12:20,080 --> 02:12:23,360
Speaker 2: take a look at it. So the Jacksonville Jaguars tight

2619
02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:27,840
Speaker 2: end strange was he wasn't bobbling it. They're just going

2620
02:12:27,880 --> 02:12:29,680
Speaker 2: to review whether or not he got both feet in

2621
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:34,160
Speaker 2: as he got knocked out of bounds by a Jets defender.

2622
02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:37,800
Speaker 2: It was near the first downyard marker, but I think

2623
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:40,760
Speaker 2: it's clear he was about a half yard short, So

2624
02:12:40,800 --> 02:12:43,160
Speaker 2: it will be a third and one as long as

2625
02:12:43,200 --> 02:12:46,360
Speaker 2: the call stands as it was called on the field.

2626
02:12:46,840 --> 02:12:49,240
Speaker 1: Chase Brown just ran in for a touchdown for the Bengals.

2627
02:12:49,280 --> 02:12:52,120
Speaker 1: They wrap up a blowout win against the Titans. By

2628
02:12:52,160 --> 02:12:55,800
Speaker 1: the way, Chase Brown twenty five carries' ninety seven yards

2629
02:12:55,800 --> 02:12:58,840
Speaker 1: in the score. Why is Mason Rudolph not starting instead

2630
02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:02,000
Speaker 1: of Will Levis Major Roydoff comes into this game sixteen

2631
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:04,960
Speaker 1: and nineteen passing one hundred and thirty yards. Mason Rudolph

2632
02:13:05,040 --> 02:13:09,600
Speaker 1: is a better quarterback. You remember last year Mason Rudolph

2633
02:13:09,640 --> 02:13:14,000
Speaker 1: down the stretch. Why didn't you say there it is?

2634
02:13:14,440 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 1: Thank you? I mean? Is that why Will Levis is

2635
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:17,280
Speaker 1: still out there?

2636
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:20,400
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the same argument matter were having

2637
02:13:20,560 --> 02:13:21,520
Speaker 2: with Chris Perfeder.

2638
02:13:21,600 --> 02:13:24,040
Speaker 1: Right here we go, guys. But he was standing on

2639
02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:26,440
Speaker 1: the console for Drew Locke right, third and one for

2640
02:13:26,600 --> 02:13:31,440
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and Mac Jones throws it right to the Jets.

2641
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:33,920
Speaker 6: Past was that?

2642
02:13:34,400 --> 02:13:37,040
Speaker 1: Why does he keep tilting his head to the left.

2643
02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:39,800
Speaker 1: Does he have a problem with his neck? I don't know,

2644
02:13:39,840 --> 02:13:42,920
Speaker 1: but he sass Gardner has never had an easier interception

2645
02:13:43,000 --> 02:13:43,600
Speaker 1: in his life.

2646
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:46,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. That looked like a punt,

2647
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:48,000
Speaker 2: it did? I mean it was?

2648
02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:51,520
Speaker 1: It was? It was a spiral. That's the third and one.

2649
02:13:51,680 --> 02:13:54,400
Speaker 1: That's the nicest thing you could say about it. What

2650
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:56,160
Speaker 1: was that it was?

2651
02:13:56,400 --> 02:13:58,880
Speaker 2: It was I guess their attempt to take a deep

2652
02:13:58,920 --> 02:14:02,560
Speaker 2: shot on four in four down territories. So everybody is

2653
02:14:02,600 --> 02:14:04,640
Speaker 2: going to think, hey, they're gonna run it they're near

2654
02:14:04,720 --> 02:14:08,040
Speaker 2: the or they have a half yard to kay here.

2655
02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:10,880
Speaker 1: I saw there was complete confusion with the two receivers.

2656
02:14:11,600 --> 02:14:16,360
Speaker 1: Complete confusion. I don't listen. I don't hate the decision. Okay,

2657
02:14:16,760 --> 02:14:19,400
Speaker 1: let me break this down. I don't hate the decision,

2658
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:23,000
Speaker 1: but you hate the execution. Hate. I hate the execution

2659
02:14:23,160 --> 02:14:27,440
Speaker 1: because the Jacksonville receivers literally had no idea what routes

2660
02:14:27,480 --> 02:14:31,280
Speaker 1: they were supposed to run, completely wrong. Mac Jones knows it.

2661
02:14:31,400 --> 02:14:34,840
Speaker 1: He was like, that's the spot you're supposed to go to. Well,

2662
02:14:34,880 --> 02:14:37,320
Speaker 1: it is a go route. It's something that the Jets

2663
02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:40,040
Speaker 1: have not enjoyed much, having lost nine of the last

2664
02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:43,600
Speaker 1: ten games. But they take a knee and they win

2665
02:14:43,640 --> 02:14:46,480
Speaker 1: the game. Jets win it, thirty two to twenty five.

2666
02:14:46,520 --> 02:14:48,760
Speaker 1: All right, Coming up on the other side, we got

2667
02:14:48,840 --> 02:14:52,600
Speaker 1: some big games kicking off. Colts at Broncos, Bills at Lions,

2668
02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:58,040
Speaker 1: Steelers at Eagles, Bucks at the Chargers, and we'll have

2669
02:14:58,200 --> 02:15:01,160
Speaker 1: all the updates for you. This is Red Zone Radio.

2670
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Speaker 5: Oh, Chajes, go to Jags, trill thirty two to twenty

2671
02:15:05,160 --> 02:15:06,040
Speaker 5: five to New York.

2672
02:15:06,080 --> 02:15:08,120
Speaker 1: Here shotgun for Mac Jones.

2673
02:15:08,200 --> 02:15:09,960
Speaker 10: If you dropped Mac Jones back to throw out of

2674
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:12,640
Speaker 10: the shotgun set looking downfield.

2675
02:15:12,080 --> 02:15:17,800
Speaker 12: Throws one left Sauce Gardner interception in Soca fifteen yard line.

2676
02:15:17,840 --> 02:15:22,360
Speaker 4: Sauce Gardner finally has his first of the year and

2677
02:15:22,440 --> 02:15:25,760
Speaker 4: not well pluck this game on ice for the Jets.

2678
02:15:26,440 --> 02:15:29,800
Speaker 1: That's one oh four Boys three Jets Radio Networks. After

2679
02:15:29,880 --> 02:15:34,360
Speaker 1: losing nine of their last ten, the Jets finally win

2680
02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:37,120
Speaker 1: a game thirty two to twenty five on the road

2681
02:15:37,160 --> 02:15:41,920
Speaker 1: against the woeful Jacksonville Jaguars. Once again, this Red Zone

2682
02:15:42,000 --> 02:15:45,160
Speaker 1: Radio Steve Hartman and Rich Ornberger with you. We are

2683
02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:48,840
Speaker 1: live from the ti iraq dot com studios. Dan Byer

2684
02:15:48,920 --> 02:15:50,720
Speaker 1: Kerry Roads Course is gonna be taken over here on

2685
02:15:50,760 --> 02:15:52,800
Speaker 1: Red Zone Radio after us. Now we sort of laugh

2686
02:15:52,840 --> 02:15:56,360
Speaker 1: at them, usually not because of them personally, but the

2687
02:15:56,400 --> 02:15:58,920
Speaker 1: fact that we usually get all the good games early

2688
02:15:59,200 --> 02:16:00,920
Speaker 1: in the morning and they get you know, a couple

2689
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:03,520
Speaker 1: of you know, sort of we've made less games. We've

2690
02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:04,400
Speaker 1: been fortunate.

2691
02:16:04,480 --> 02:16:08,360
Speaker 2: We've had a very active here on the West Coast

2692
02:16:08,480 --> 02:16:12,440
Speaker 2: morning slate throughout the season. The afternoon slate leading into

2693
02:16:12,560 --> 02:16:14,520
Speaker 2: primetime has been less so.

2694
02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:17,560
Speaker 1: But not today. Oh, they have five games. So now

2695
02:16:17,640 --> 02:16:21,040
Speaker 1: with a full schedule, no more buys. Instead of three games,

2696
02:16:21,040 --> 02:16:24,240
Speaker 1: they get five games, and four of them are huge matchups.

2697
02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean, on the lesser endy, you got the Colts

2698
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:30,440
Speaker 1: at the Broncos, Buccaneers at the Chargers, playoff implications for

2699
02:16:30,480 --> 02:16:32,440
Speaker 1: all four of those teams, and then you got the

2700
02:16:32,480 --> 02:16:35,080
Speaker 1: games of the week Steelers at the Eagles, and of

2701
02:16:35,120 --> 02:16:37,400
Speaker 1: course the biggest game of the day, the Bills at

2702
02:16:37,400 --> 02:16:40,840
Speaker 1: the Lions. If I say this is a Super Bowl preview,

2703
02:16:41,240 --> 02:16:43,360
Speaker 1: you say yeah.

2704
02:16:43,600 --> 02:16:46,360
Speaker 2: I say yeah right now. The way the Bills are playing,

2705
02:16:46,360 --> 02:16:49,240
Speaker 2: they're better than the Chiefs. And so if they meet

2706
02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:53,120
Speaker 2: again in the postseason, as difficult as it is, frankly,

2707
02:16:53,240 --> 02:16:55,560
Speaker 2: if they meet in the postseason, because I'm gonna say

2708
02:16:55,560 --> 02:16:57,800
Speaker 2: this and I'll stand by it, I don't think the

2709
02:16:57,879 --> 02:16:59,720
Speaker 2: Chiefs look like a team that can win in the

2710
02:16:59,720 --> 02:17:04,440
Speaker 2: post season. Still now a better win against Cleveland only

2711
02:17:04,600 --> 02:17:09,520
Speaker 2: in box score. I mean, Mahomes got crushed the entire game.

2712
02:17:09,560 --> 02:17:12,320
Speaker 2: That offensive line was Swiss Chiefs. The only reason why

2713
02:17:12,400 --> 02:17:14,800
Speaker 2: they beat the Browns by two scores is because every

2714
02:17:14,800 --> 02:17:17,240
Speaker 2: time the Browns have possession of the football, one of

2715
02:17:17,320 --> 02:17:20,640
Speaker 2: their quarterbacks because they played more than one, was throwing

2716
02:17:20,680 --> 02:17:23,760
Speaker 2: it to the Chiefs defense. So it wasn't much of

2717
02:17:23,800 --> 02:17:27,160
Speaker 2: an effort that the Cleveland Browns mounted against the Chiefs.

2718
02:17:27,440 --> 02:17:30,680
Speaker 2: The Chiefs they've stumbled through this season. So I don't

2719
02:17:30,680 --> 02:17:32,600
Speaker 2: even know if the Bills have to worry about the

2720
02:17:32,640 --> 02:17:35,880
Speaker 2: Chiefs because they may be dispatched of before they even

2721
02:17:35,920 --> 02:17:36,720
Speaker 2: have to face them.

2722
02:17:36,720 --> 02:17:39,080
Speaker 1: But Rich, the Bills gave up forty four to the

2723
02:17:39,160 --> 02:17:42,760
Speaker 1: Rams last week, and that loss forty four points and

2724
02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:45,320
Speaker 1: you just saw the Rams. What four field goals and

2725
02:17:45,360 --> 02:17:48,320
Speaker 1: their victory against the forty nine ers? Are the Bills?

2726
02:17:48,400 --> 02:17:51,520
Speaker 1: If the Bills gave up forty four points, Bills better

2727
02:17:51,600 --> 02:17:55,360
Speaker 1: than the Chiefs. They should be, But that defense gave

2728
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:58,360
Speaker 1: up forty four points to the Rams. I'm gonna ask

2729
02:17:58,360 --> 02:18:01,879
Speaker 1: you this, are the Lions better offensive team than the Rams?

2730
02:18:02,520 --> 02:18:04,879
Speaker 1: Because if the Rams scored forty four in the Bills,

2731
02:18:04,879 --> 02:18:06,520
Speaker 1: what do you think the Lions are gonna do today?

2732
02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:07,760
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question.

2733
02:18:07,920 --> 02:18:11,520
Speaker 2: If the Bills played the Panthers this season, what would

2734
02:18:11,520 --> 02:18:12,680
Speaker 2: the finals score look like?

2735
02:18:12,840 --> 02:18:14,400
Speaker 1: Would it be a close game at all?

2736
02:18:14,560 --> 02:18:14,840
Speaker 11: See?

2737
02:18:14,920 --> 02:18:17,800
Speaker 1: That's my point the Chiefs. Again, you're not worried after

2738
02:18:17,840 --> 02:18:20,440
Speaker 1: watching the Bills defense get run over by the Rams

2739
02:18:20,480 --> 02:18:20,959
Speaker 1: last week.

2740
02:18:21,040 --> 02:18:25,280
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's not a problem for Buffalo, but

2741
02:18:25,360 --> 02:18:28,800
Speaker 2: I'm also saying that's Sean McVay, and that is Matthew

2742
02:18:28,840 --> 02:18:32,039
Speaker 2: Stafford and Puka Nakua and Cooper Cup on that team.

2743
02:18:32,400 --> 02:18:36,800
Speaker 2: The Chiefs, against far far inferior competition over the course

2744
02:18:36,840 --> 02:18:39,800
Speaker 2: of this season, have really struggled at times. They have

2745
02:18:39,959 --> 02:18:42,000
Speaker 2: not put together a game where I go, oh, wow,

2746
02:18:42,080 --> 02:18:45,400
Speaker 2: there it is. Kansas City has arrived. The Buffalo Bills

2747
02:18:45,400 --> 02:18:47,240
Speaker 2: have done that several times this season.

2748
02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:51,480
Speaker 1: We have two guys in the booth that are experts

2749
02:18:51,520 --> 02:18:53,480
Speaker 1: on two of the teams playing right now. That would

2750
02:18:53,520 --> 02:18:56,760
Speaker 1: be Chris with the Lions and Bow with the Eagles.

2751
02:18:57,400 --> 02:19:00,480
Speaker 1: Big matchups for both your teams today, guys, Let's start

2752
02:19:00,520 --> 02:19:04,640
Speaker 1: with you, Chris, what is your biggest concern? If you

2753
02:19:04,760 --> 02:19:07,320
Speaker 1: have any concerns about this matchup with the Bills.

2754
02:19:07,640 --> 02:19:09,840
Speaker 10: It's gonna just once again be on the defense. It

2755
02:19:09,959 --> 02:19:13,280
Speaker 10: is a mostly clean slate on the injury report, but

2756
02:19:13,320 --> 02:19:15,240
Speaker 10: you're still down a lot of your guys. You're still

2757
02:19:15,240 --> 02:19:18,240
Speaker 10: talking and it is an elusive quarterback in Josh Allen.

2758
02:19:18,280 --> 02:19:20,279
Speaker 10: I don't really have a ton of concern. The offense

2759
02:19:20,320 --> 02:19:21,840
Speaker 10: has kind of been up and down, but I know

2760
02:19:22,120 --> 02:19:24,640
Speaker 10: the Bills are in here without their two starting safeties

2761
02:19:25,040 --> 02:19:27,800
Speaker 10: in one of their corners right now. So I don't

2762
02:19:27,800 --> 02:19:29,959
Speaker 10: know if they could go like rams offense like you

2763
02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:32,720
Speaker 10: were talking about, and score like a bajillion points on

2764
02:19:32,879 --> 02:19:34,480
Speaker 10: the Bills. I don't think that's the type of football

2765
02:19:34,520 --> 02:19:36,280
Speaker 10: they tend to play with, especially with how much running

2766
02:19:36,280 --> 02:19:36,600
Speaker 10: they do.

2767
02:19:37,240 --> 02:19:39,400
Speaker 1: But it's got this.

2768
02:19:39,680 --> 02:19:42,360
Speaker 10: I mean, everyone's eyeing the defense and wondering how long

2769
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:45,760
Speaker 10: this can keep holding up with what they need to

2770
02:19:45,760 --> 02:19:47,120
Speaker 10: do in the final five games here.

2771
02:19:47,160 --> 02:19:49,880
Speaker 1: All right, So bo, how about you? What concerns of

2772
02:19:49,959 --> 02:19:51,640
Speaker 1: all do you have against the Steelers?

2773
02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:55,640
Speaker 3: The one that wears number one in plays quarterback. That's

2774
02:19:55,680 --> 02:19:57,720
Speaker 3: a big concern after this last week, I think.

2775
02:19:57,920 --> 02:20:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, here's my question is who are you more

2776
02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:06,800
Speaker 1: upset with Jillen Hurds and aj Brown for not getting

2777
02:20:06,800 --> 02:20:07,320
Speaker 1: it together?

2778
02:20:07,480 --> 02:20:08,119
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2779
02:20:08,160 --> 02:20:10,560
Speaker 1: Okay, hang on, this is gonna be multiple choices.

2780
02:20:10,600 --> 02:20:16,680
Speaker 2: So that's a b Brandon Graham for putting personal business

2781
02:20:16,760 --> 02:20:20,360
Speaker 2: on main street because okay, buddy, listen, you can't help

2782
02:20:20,400 --> 02:20:24,160
Speaker 2: the team because you're injured, and thanks for the memories, bub,

2783
02:20:24,760 --> 02:20:27,360
Speaker 2: but what the hell are you doing going on sports

2784
02:20:27,400 --> 02:20:32,480
Speaker 2: talk radio and bringing personal issues out on main street?

2785
02:20:32,520 --> 02:20:35,600
Speaker 2: Throwing everyone's dirty laundry out the window. That's that's that's B.

2786
02:20:35,800 --> 02:20:37,960
Speaker 2: So you have a the quarterback and the receiver of

2787
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:42,040
Speaker 2: squabbling B Brandon Graham who dimed out his quarterback and

2788
02:20:42,080 --> 02:20:46,040
Speaker 2: his receiver are squabbling or ce Nick Sirianni for not

2789
02:20:46,400 --> 02:20:49,240
Speaker 2: keeping a clean house and making sure that these issues

2790
02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:51,360
Speaker 2: never see the light of day.

2791
02:20:51,560 --> 02:20:53,040
Speaker 1: Who do you blame the most in all this?

2792
02:20:53,400 --> 02:21:00,440
Speaker 3: I think it's BC in order. So then the fifteen

2793
02:21:00,520 --> 02:21:03,200
Speaker 3: year plus NFL veteran like you have to and especially

2794
02:21:03,240 --> 02:21:05,480
Speaker 3: like I think Tom Renaldi said, like in a city

2795
02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:09,080
Speaker 3: like Philadelphia that thrives off negativity, to throw that red

2796
02:21:09,120 --> 02:21:12,160
Speaker 3: meat out there was really weird to see from him.

2797
02:21:12,480 --> 02:21:14,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, Nick Sirianni needs the shoulders and blame here

2798
02:21:14,520 --> 02:21:17,119
Speaker 3: too for not being able to keep this team drama

2799
02:21:17,160 --> 02:21:18,160
Speaker 3: free for whatever reason.

2800
02:21:18,360 --> 02:21:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, guys, let's find out what is trending

2801
02:21:20,920 --> 02:21:22,920
Speaker 1: right now. We're gonna head to Manci early because I

2802
02:21:22,920 --> 02:21:25,039
Speaker 1: know she's keeping her eye on her favorite team, that

2803
02:21:25,040 --> 02:21:28,360
Speaker 1: would be the Chargers. This is a tough game to charge.

2804
02:21:29,000 --> 02:21:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you got the Buccaneers traveling cross country, which

2805
02:21:32,280 --> 02:21:35,640
Speaker 1: is never easy. They need to win to maintain hold

2806
02:21:35,640 --> 02:21:37,800
Speaker 1: of their lead in the NFC South. Right now, and

2807
02:21:37,840 --> 02:21:41,400
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I've just found ways to win. But early

2808
02:21:41,440 --> 02:21:43,959
Speaker 1: on here this is the first drive opening drive here

2809
02:21:44,000 --> 02:21:44,680
Speaker 1: for the Bucks.

2810
02:21:44,840 --> 02:21:46,720
Speaker 8: Hey, but you know, the Chiefs have found ways to

2811
02:21:46,760 --> 02:21:49,160
Speaker 8: win and look at them. So I'm gonna hope the

2812
02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:50,840
Speaker 8: Chargers continue to do the same.

2813
02:21:51,400 --> 02:21:52,320
Speaker 9: It'll be tough again.

2814
02:21:52,360 --> 02:21:54,600
Speaker 1: I like the fact that you're including the Chargers in

2815
02:21:54,640 --> 02:21:57,160
Speaker 1: the exact same sentence as the chief I mean.

2816
02:21:57,120 --> 02:22:01,160
Speaker 8: They want on adink on a doink. All right, I'm

2817
02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:02,000
Speaker 8: gonna keep my hope.

2818
02:22:02,280 --> 02:22:05,600
Speaker 1: How many Super Bowls the Chargers have been to said

2819
02:22:05,640 --> 02:22:09,760
Speaker 1: all what I was there? I was actually there. There

2820
02:22:09,760 --> 02:22:11,560
Speaker 1: you got and that was a long time ago.

2821
02:22:11,760 --> 02:22:13,680
Speaker 6: That was it was a long time ago.

2822
02:22:13,959 --> 02:22:17,000
Speaker 8: Yes, we got the second round of games just starting,

2823
02:22:17,080 --> 02:22:18,120
Speaker 8: so they're all score list.

2824
02:22:18,160 --> 02:22:19,640
Speaker 6: But if something happens, I'll let you know.

2825
02:22:20,080 --> 02:22:22,400
Speaker 8: The Chiefs improved to thirteen and one after defeating the

2826
02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:24,320
Speaker 8: Browns three twenty one to seven.

2827
02:22:24,360 --> 02:22:26,040
Speaker 6: The Browns are now three and eleven.

2828
02:22:26,320 --> 02:22:29,840
Speaker 8: But to add insult to injury, just reported that Brown's

2829
02:22:29,879 --> 02:22:33,080
Speaker 8: running back Nick Chubb broke his foot today, So I know.

2830
02:22:33,200 --> 02:22:34,840
Speaker 6: And he just had that injury last year.

2831
02:22:34,879 --> 02:22:37,240
Speaker 9: It comes back, so he broke his foot today.

2832
02:22:37,120 --> 02:22:39,360
Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes something to keep an eye on was taking

2833
02:22:39,400 --> 02:22:42,160
Speaker 8: out in the fourth quarter after suffering a lower leg injury.

2834
02:22:42,200 --> 02:22:43,440
Speaker 6: He was beat up in this game.

2835
02:22:43,800 --> 02:22:46,120
Speaker 8: Carson Wentz went in, but it's not We're not sure

2836
02:22:46,160 --> 02:22:49,320
Speaker 8: if it was just precautionary reasons. They were taping him

2837
02:22:49,360 --> 02:22:50,640
Speaker 8: up on the sideline. It looked like he was going

2838
02:22:50,680 --> 02:22:52,360
Speaker 8: to go back in. He did not go back in.

2839
02:22:52,440 --> 02:22:56,400
Speaker 8: Carson Wentzon. Chiefs defense had four interceptions and five sacks

2840
02:22:56,400 --> 02:22:58,440
Speaker 8: in this game, and I'm playing against the Chiefs defense

2841
02:22:58,440 --> 02:22:59,119
Speaker 8: and fantasy, so.

2842
02:22:59,080 --> 02:22:59,520
Speaker 1: I hate it.

2843
02:22:59,600 --> 02:23:02,520
Speaker 8: Bengal stop the Titans thirty seven to twenty seven. Joe

2844
02:23:02,520 --> 02:23:04,959
Speaker 8: Burrow twenty six to thirty seven, two hundred and seventy

2845
02:23:05,120 --> 02:23:09,199
Speaker 8: one yards, three touchdowns, two interceptions Chase Brown for the Bengals,

2846
02:23:09,360 --> 02:23:12,360
Speaker 8: one touchdown on the ground, one touchdown in the air.

2847
02:23:12,480 --> 02:23:15,440
Speaker 8: The Commanders hold on to beat the Saints twenty to nineteen.

2848
02:23:15,520 --> 02:23:17,680
Speaker 8: Jayden Daniels threw for two hundred and twenty six yards

2849
02:23:17,680 --> 02:23:19,199
Speaker 8: and two touchdowns, both.

2850
02:23:18,920 --> 02:23:20,439
Speaker 6: Of them went to Terry McLaurin.

2851
02:23:20,640 --> 02:23:23,600
Speaker 8: This went down to the wire where Spencer Rattler, who

2852
02:23:23,640 --> 02:23:26,400
Speaker 8: came in for Jake Hayner, threw a touchdown pass to

2853
02:23:26,520 --> 02:23:29,680
Speaker 8: Foster Moreau with three seconds left. Cut it with to one,

2854
02:23:29,959 --> 02:23:32,080
Speaker 8: went for a two point conversion to try and win it,

2855
02:23:32,240 --> 02:23:34,680
Speaker 8: not successful. That's how the Commanders came out on top.

2856
02:23:34,840 --> 02:23:37,760
Speaker 8: The Ravens crushed the Giants thirty five to fourteen. Lamar

2857
02:23:37,840 --> 02:23:40,760
Speaker 8: Jackson threw for two hundred and ninety yards and five touchdowns,

2858
02:23:40,760 --> 02:23:44,359
Speaker 8: but Mark Andrews officially the raven with the most touchdowns

2859
02:23:44,400 --> 02:23:48,600
Speaker 8: in franchise history forty eight, catching one today, surpassing Jamal

2860
02:23:48,920 --> 02:23:49,800
Speaker 8: Lewis and for.

2861
02:23:49,760 --> 02:23:50,680
Speaker 6: The second straight week.

2862
02:23:50,680 --> 02:23:52,039
Speaker 8: I don't know if you guys saw this last time

2863
02:23:52,040 --> 02:23:54,720
Speaker 8: that there was a message that's flying over MetLife Stadium

2864
02:23:55,080 --> 02:23:59,280
Speaker 8: to say something to owner. Was it Mara his first name,

2865
02:24:00,160 --> 02:24:03,600
Speaker 8: John Marra. Thank you. This message said mister Mara. Enough,

2866
02:24:03,640 --> 02:24:06,880
Speaker 8: we won't stop. We won't stop until you fire everyone.

2867
02:24:07,440 --> 02:24:09,440
Speaker 8: So there was a message last week, there's a message

2868
02:24:09,440 --> 02:24:12,840
Speaker 8: this week. Cowboys outscored the Panthers thirty to fourteen. In

2869
02:24:12,879 --> 02:24:14,920
Speaker 8: this one, CD Lamb had nine catches, one hundred and

2870
02:24:14,920 --> 02:24:17,360
Speaker 8: sixteen yards and a touchdown. Cooper rushed through for two

2871
02:24:17,440 --> 02:24:19,119
Speaker 8: hundred and fourteen yards and three touchdowns.

2872
02:24:19,200 --> 02:24:20,520
Speaker 9: The Jets hold on to beat.

2873
02:24:20,400 --> 02:24:22,840
Speaker 8: The Jaguars thirty two to twenty five, all in the

2874
02:24:22,879 --> 02:24:25,720
Speaker 8: second half for Davante Adams nine catches, one hundred and

2875
02:24:25,800 --> 02:24:28,560
Speaker 8: ninety eight yards, two touchdowns, bringing his career total to

2876
02:24:28,600 --> 02:24:32,119
Speaker 8: one hundred and one total career touchdowns. The Texans improved

2877
02:24:32,160 --> 02:24:35,800
Speaker 8: him nine and five after outscoring the Dolphins twenty to twelve.

2878
02:24:36,160 --> 02:24:38,320
Speaker 8: Tua Toko by law twenty nine to forty, one hundred

2879
02:24:38,320 --> 02:24:41,800
Speaker 8: and ninety six yards, a touchdown, three interceptions in this one,

2880
02:24:41,879 --> 02:24:45,160
Speaker 8: picked off twice by Derek Singletary in this game.

2881
02:24:45,480 --> 02:24:47,960
Speaker 6: And I think that's it. Oh, the Buccaneers scored.

2882
02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you a touchdown past he all doe. Yeah to

2883
02:24:51,240 --> 02:24:55,959
Speaker 1: JAYL mcmill he was wide open. Well great, good jobide open,

2884
02:24:56,959 --> 02:25:01,560
Speaker 1: very good. And meanwhile we uh we have a Richard

2885
02:25:01,640 --> 02:25:05,879
Speaker 1: s and Anthony Richardson touchdown run, as the cold said,

2886
02:25:05,959 --> 02:25:09,200
Speaker 1: now taken an early six. Nothing laid on the road

2887
02:25:09,680 --> 02:25:11,880
Speaker 1: against the Broncos. All right, mon See, we got a

2888
02:25:11,879 --> 02:25:14,039
Speaker 1: lot of things going on, a lot of excitement in

2889
02:25:14,120 --> 02:25:17,039
Speaker 1: these games. By the way, I was just watching a

2890
02:25:17,240 --> 02:25:21,360
Speaker 1: play in the end zone. Uh, I thought there was

2891
02:25:21,440 --> 02:25:25,160
Speaker 1: interference that was not called on the Lions. What happened there?

2892
02:25:25,240 --> 02:25:27,840
Speaker 1: It was an interference. He wasn't know what else to

2893
02:25:27,879 --> 02:25:30,840
Speaker 1: tell you. They didn't call interference Chris Purfet, It's no

2894
02:25:31,120 --> 02:25:32,959
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do in this situation?

2895
02:25:33,240 --> 02:25:35,400
Speaker 10: Like I you want me to answer deep question, but

2896
02:25:35,480 --> 02:25:36,800
Speaker 10: it's they didn't call interference.

2897
02:25:36,879 --> 02:25:42,200
Speaker 1: But they didn't call interference. And now exactly who a

2898
02:25:42,360 --> 02:25:43,480
Speaker 1: third and five?

2899
02:25:43,680 --> 02:25:47,959
Speaker 2: Josh Allen improvising as the play broke down, scramble drill

2900
02:25:48,040 --> 02:25:52,440
Speaker 2: out to his right side, finds a receiver hurry up

2901
02:25:52,440 --> 02:25:55,520
Speaker 2: often for the middle, and was able to lay it

2902
02:25:55,600 --> 02:25:57,039
Speaker 2: in there for a thirty yard dime.

2903
02:25:57,360 --> 02:26:00,800
Speaker 1: They're down the Lions your yard line and they just

2904
02:26:00,879 --> 02:26:03,800
Speaker 1: run a play and down to the one yard line.

2905
02:26:03,879 --> 02:26:07,080
Speaker 1: So this is going to be the overrun on this game,

2906
02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:09,720
Speaker 1: I believe was what fifty four and a half was

2907
02:26:09,760 --> 02:26:10,720
Speaker 1: a huge number.

2908
02:26:10,800 --> 02:26:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the total was high. Wow, look at that catch.

2909
02:26:14,160 --> 02:26:17,160
Speaker 2: Who bought that football? That was an incredible concentration.

2910
02:26:17,400 --> 02:26:20,200
Speaker 1: All right? So that was Johnson that caught that pass.

2911
02:26:20,680 --> 02:26:23,720
Speaker 1: All right? So right now the sneak by.

2912
02:26:23,879 --> 02:26:27,400
Speaker 2: Eve that's in, Yeah, that looks like it's in. Josh

2913
02:26:27,440 --> 02:26:29,760
Speaker 2: Allen forced his way forward. He's laying on top of

2914
02:26:29,879 --> 02:26:30,800
Speaker 2: bodies touched.

2915
02:26:30,600 --> 02:26:32,360
Speaker 1: By the way. You know what my bold body show

2916
02:26:32,440 --> 02:26:34,640
Speaker 1: us on this game, strikes first, leading six to nothing.

2917
02:26:34,720 --> 02:26:37,039
Speaker 1: My bold prediction on this game was that Josh Allen

2918
02:26:37,080 --> 02:26:40,400
Speaker 1: would have more rushing touchdowns than passing touchdowns. I could

2919
02:26:40,440 --> 02:26:45,480
Speaker 1: see that, and right now it's one nothing. Hello, she's crazy.

2920
02:26:45,480 --> 02:26:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't like Wait a second, Oh no, no, you

2921
02:26:47,600 --> 02:26:50,680
Speaker 1: don't okay, Oh, he's in there off because they didn't

2922
02:26:50,680 --> 02:26:53,160
Speaker 1: they didn't have it up on the score graphics. I

2923
02:26:53,160 --> 02:26:57,640
Speaker 1: got Confuseder, Yeah, they're reviewing it like they do all touchdowns.

2924
02:26:57,680 --> 02:26:59,600
Speaker 1: But he's at the ball's at the goal line. But

2925
02:26:59,840 --> 02:27:02,200
Speaker 1: it did his nego Dannce, he can't see his knee.

2926
02:27:02,240 --> 02:27:04,760
Speaker 1: He actually he was turned around on his back. Yeah,

2927
02:27:04,800 --> 02:27:06,800
Speaker 1: he so his knee did not hit the ground. He

2928
02:27:06,920 --> 02:27:09,560
Speaker 1: was on top of Lions players. They're gonna count that

2929
02:27:09,640 --> 02:27:12,560
Speaker 1: one and they'll kick the point after here. Don't forget

2930
02:27:12,560 --> 02:27:14,360
Speaker 1: after our show, the podcast is going to go up.

2931
02:27:14,400 --> 02:27:16,360
Speaker 1: So if you missed any of today's show, check out

2932
02:27:16,360 --> 02:27:18,920
Speaker 1: the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

2933
02:27:18,959 --> 02:27:21,600
Speaker 1: your podcast and follow, rate and review the podcast. Again.

2934
02:27:21,760 --> 02:27:24,359
Speaker 1: Just search Fox Sports Radio where we get your podcasts.

2935
02:27:24,360 --> 02:27:27,000
Speaker 1: You'll see the show posted right after we get off

2936
02:27:27,040 --> 02:27:30,720
Speaker 1: the air, and the Bills do get that rushing touchdown. Meanwhile,

2937
02:27:30,760 --> 02:27:33,760
Speaker 1: the Chargers have really I don't know how you even

2938
02:27:33,760 --> 02:27:37,200
Speaker 1: describe their offense, and last week was unreal because they're

2939
02:27:37,200 --> 02:27:40,879
Speaker 1: playing the Chiefs. You know, you're already down your Dobbins

2940
02:27:41,480 --> 02:27:45,200
Speaker 1: and then you lose your rookie wide receiver and he

2941
02:27:45,440 --> 02:27:48,000
Speaker 1: was out. I mean, they have no weapons on this team.

2942
02:27:48,080 --> 02:27:51,360
Speaker 2: Well, so lads back this game, yes, which thankfully for

2943
02:27:51,840 --> 02:27:55,520
Speaker 2: their offense, which I agree with you is extremely anemic

2944
02:27:55,680 --> 02:27:58,960
Speaker 2: to start the season when they had Mike Williams walk

2945
02:27:59,000 --> 02:28:03,160
Speaker 2: and they traded way Keenan Allen to the Buffalo excuse me,

2946
02:28:03,200 --> 02:28:06,200
Speaker 2: to the Chicago Bears and so. But Lad mccakay has

2947
02:28:06,280 --> 02:28:09,039
Speaker 2: quickly become one of Justin Herbert's best targets.

2948
02:28:09,160 --> 02:28:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean two weeks ago he had what nine catches

2949
02:28:11,879 --> 02:28:14,800
Speaker 1: and no one else had more than one on the team.

2950
02:28:14,800 --> 02:28:17,400
Speaker 2: And there he is, back to back receptions, brings them

2951
02:28:17,440 --> 02:28:21,600
Speaker 2: over the fifty yard line. They're into Tampa Bay territory. Now, yeah,

2952
02:28:21,640 --> 02:28:23,560
Speaker 2: he is the go to guy on this offense.

2953
02:28:23,600 --> 02:28:25,800
Speaker 1: All right. Eagles get an early field goal, take a

2954
02:28:25,840 --> 02:28:28,480
Speaker 1: three to nothing lead over the Steelers. Jalen Hurts, who

2955
02:28:29,040 --> 02:28:32,440
Speaker 1: again is on the trading block. If you asked Bo Benson,

2956
02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:35,680
Speaker 1: four for four fifty three yards to start this game,

2957
02:28:35,800 --> 02:28:38,680
Speaker 1: four for four fifty three yards and just throwing it

2958
02:28:38,680 --> 02:28:41,280
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, there is one other game that we're

2959
02:28:41,320 --> 02:28:47,959
Speaker 1: not talking about Patriots. They are on the road against

2960
02:28:48,000 --> 02:28:51,720
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Who I just hold on, did you say

2961
02:28:51,760 --> 02:28:54,040
Speaker 1: that was such distain A Well, I was just trying

2962
02:28:54,080 --> 02:28:55,879
Speaker 1: to I didn't know what to follow it up. No, no,

2963
02:28:55,920 --> 02:28:57,480
Speaker 1: I've got I've got this perfect thing to follow it

2964
02:28:57,560 --> 02:29:00,800
Speaker 1: up with. Hold on, who cares? Yeah? I just I

2965
02:29:00,800 --> 02:29:03,720
Speaker 1: mean they're three and ten right now, Drake May three

2966
02:29:03,760 --> 02:29:06,560
Speaker 1: for three so far, thirty two yards. Uh, they found

2967
02:29:06,600 --> 02:29:08,920
Speaker 1: themselves a quarterback. How good he's going to be? Is

2968
02:29:08,959 --> 02:29:11,800
Speaker 1: really going to depend on the organization to surround him

2969
02:29:11,800 --> 02:29:14,400
Speaker 1: with some weapons. I mean, I don't care how gifted

2970
02:29:14,440 --> 02:29:16,440
Speaker 1: you are a quarterback. You got to be able to

2971
02:29:16,440 --> 02:29:18,560
Speaker 1: hand the ball off to a talent or throw the

2972
02:29:18,560 --> 02:29:20,920
Speaker 1: ball to a talent. Well, pretty soon here you're going

2973
02:29:21,000 --> 02:29:25,120
Speaker 1: to have a Patriots pipeline down at Chapel Hill. I

2974
02:29:25,160 --> 02:29:27,320
Speaker 1: mean yeah, if you have the Patriot way, he will

2975
02:29:27,480 --> 02:29:30,160
Speaker 1: never he will never coach a game at North Carolina.

2976
02:29:30,600 --> 02:29:33,920
Speaker 1: Well come on, not one. No, come on, you think

2977
02:29:33,959 --> 02:29:36,320
Speaker 1: and you say, who would ever do that, like take

2978
02:29:36,320 --> 02:29:38,400
Speaker 1: a job and never coach, Well, that's right. He did

2979
02:29:38,440 --> 02:29:39,279
Speaker 1: it to the Jets.

2980
02:29:39,360 --> 02:29:41,640
Speaker 3: I mean you saw he was back challenging the Jets

2981
02:29:42,040 --> 02:29:44,039
Speaker 3: this year, right, Yeah, reading out to them to see

2982
02:29:44,040 --> 02:29:44,800
Speaker 3: if that be interested.

2983
02:29:44,920 --> 02:29:45,480
Speaker 1: Yes, begging.

2984
02:29:46,920 --> 02:29:49,200
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt. Look there, there's no doubt in

2985
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:51,760
Speaker 2: my mind he will be back head coaching in the

2986
02:29:51,879 --> 02:29:53,320
Speaker 2: NFL at some point.

2987
02:29:53,440 --> 02:29:55,720
Speaker 1: Well, who's going to hire him? Well, here, he wants

2988
02:29:55,760 --> 02:30:00,600
Speaker 1: total control of an organization. So you signed on tract.

2989
02:30:00,840 --> 02:30:04,040
Speaker 2: You have a one million dollar buy out this June.

2990
02:30:04,160 --> 02:30:06,680
Speaker 1: Clearly he's going to be interviewing for jobs in the NFL.

2991
02:30:06,879 --> 02:30:09,120
Speaker 1: I understand that. But again, one of the reasons he

2992
02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:11,400
Speaker 1: would take a college job is that he has total

2993
02:30:11,440 --> 02:30:13,879
Speaker 1: to control of the situation. Oh yeah, he gave them

2994
02:30:13,879 --> 02:30:14,640
Speaker 1: a manifesto.

2995
02:30:14,800 --> 02:30:17,760
Speaker 2: It was apparently four hundred pages long, and they went,

2996
02:30:17,959 --> 02:30:18,920
Speaker 2: whatever you need Bill.

2997
02:30:19,040 --> 02:30:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2998
02:30:19,440 --> 02:30:21,640
Speaker 3: Imagine he takes the Jets job, though, he goes through

2999
02:30:21,640 --> 02:30:24,080
Speaker 3: the entire thing. He does the draft process, he does

3000
02:30:24,160 --> 02:30:26,680
Speaker 3: the press conference, he's super excited, and then the night

3001
02:30:26,720 --> 02:30:28,640
Speaker 3: before the first game, he just gives what he Johnson

3002
02:30:28,680 --> 02:30:30,080
Speaker 3: and Napkin again and says, I quit.

3003
02:30:30,240 --> 02:30:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, I can't even imagine. Get out of town,

3004
02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:36,240
Speaker 1: can you. Budgy goes back to Chapel Hill, here's the thing. Now,

3005
02:30:36,280 --> 02:30:38,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing. When he said it was his dream job,

3006
02:30:38,360 --> 02:30:40,480
Speaker 1: the first thing hit to me was this. Now he's

3007
02:30:40,520 --> 02:30:43,200
Speaker 1: going to be on that campus there in Chapel Hill, right,

3008
02:30:43,959 --> 02:30:46,920
Speaker 1: and his girlfriend's twenty five years old, so she's taking classes,

3009
02:30:46,959 --> 02:30:49,160
Speaker 1: so make a carpool. Well, I mean just saying like

3010
02:30:49,240 --> 02:30:53,480
Speaker 1: he prefers young, beautiful ladies. I mean, and then all

3011
02:30:53,520 --> 02:30:55,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're strolling that campus, big man on

3012
02:30:55,879 --> 02:30:59,920
Speaker 1: campus themoc hello, I mean target rich environment.

3013
02:31:00,040 --> 02:31:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I don't understand people saying he can't

3014
02:31:01,840 --> 02:31:03,840
Speaker 3: recruit like he very clearly can.

3015
02:31:04,520 --> 02:31:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, okay, I mean I don't know if

3016
02:31:08,200 --> 02:31:09,720
Speaker 2: we even talk about football anymore.

3017
02:31:09,760 --> 02:31:11,720
Speaker 1: Guys, Well we don't have to. We can go a

3018
02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:13,760
Speaker 1: different direction if we have to. All Right.

3019
02:31:13,840 --> 02:31:17,199
Speaker 10: So the other thing with him is like any done.

3020
02:31:17,400 --> 02:31:20,320
Speaker 10: Outer banks are right there? Man, what he likes to fish? Now,

3021
02:31:20,400 --> 02:31:23,400
Speaker 10: let me ask that question. Okay, so outer banks, I

3022
02:31:23,440 --> 02:31:26,280
Speaker 10: mean also target rich. Well can you pull out of

3023
02:31:26,280 --> 02:31:28,480
Speaker 10: the waters in the outer banks? Like, are we talking

3024
02:31:29,000 --> 02:31:31,200
Speaker 10: like big tuna bass? What are we chasing?

3025
02:31:32,840 --> 02:31:34,400
Speaker 1: Last time I think I went down there, we went

3026
02:31:34,480 --> 02:31:38,880
Speaker 1: crabbing crab Okay, yeah, you want to stay away from crabs. Yes,

3027
02:31:38,920 --> 02:31:42,040
Speaker 1: you do. Everybody says that look guys, so when you

3028
02:31:42,080 --> 02:31:44,400
Speaker 1: see that, when you when you see him and his girlfriend,

3029
02:31:44,600 --> 02:31:48,080
Speaker 1: I mean, do you just say, yeah, that's that's happening there.

3030
02:31:48,320 --> 02:31:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come over to your computer.

3031
02:31:49,840 --> 02:31:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, yeah, listen, they look like a happy couple.

3032
02:31:53,360 --> 02:31:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah there. Love.

3033
02:31:55,120 --> 02:31:59,080
Speaker 2: Love is blind, by the way, and maybe she catt

3034
02:31:59,080 --> 02:32:00,119
Speaker 2: a prescription jack.

3035
02:32:02,520 --> 02:32:05,760
Speaker 1: Am I missing said, did he strike you as the

3036
02:32:05,920 --> 02:32:09,640
Speaker 1: kind of guy that, in his seventies would be dating

3037
02:32:09,680 --> 02:32:12,680
Speaker 1: a girl that could literally be his granddaughter? Did he

3038
02:32:12,879 --> 02:32:14,920
Speaker 1: strike as that kind of guy, you know what?

3039
02:32:15,080 --> 02:32:18,640
Speaker 2: Honestly to be perfectly, perfectly honest with you. When it

3040
02:32:18,680 --> 02:32:24,120
Speaker 2: came to Bill and me, Yeah, our relationship was strictly

3041
02:32:24,760 --> 02:32:27,400
Speaker 2: I will do whatever you asked me to do. It

3042
02:32:27,440 --> 02:32:32,120
Speaker 2: felt like drill, sergeant and soldier. I mean it didn't

3043
02:32:32,120 --> 02:32:35,680
Speaker 2: matter what the request was either, Like he had all

3044
02:32:35,720 --> 02:32:39,840
Speaker 2: of us, Especially when you're a drafted rookie walking on eggshells.

3045
02:32:39,879 --> 02:32:41,600
Speaker 1: You were terrified to get cut.

3046
02:32:41,920 --> 02:32:44,520
Speaker 2: You didn't want you didn't want to screw anything up

3047
02:32:44,560 --> 02:32:46,600
Speaker 2: because you could end up on low lights in front

3048
02:32:46,600 --> 02:32:48,680
Speaker 2: of the screen. And also, by the way, you're playing

3049
02:32:48,720 --> 02:32:52,800
Speaker 2: with Tom Brady, who after winning three Super Bowls. By

3050
02:32:52,800 --> 02:32:55,200
Speaker 2: the time I was drafted in New England, he was

3051
02:32:55,320 --> 02:32:58,600
Speaker 2: listening to this guy. He was getting criticized by this guy.

3052
02:32:58,680 --> 02:33:01,760
Speaker 2: So he was king of the Patriot world when I

3053
02:33:01,879 --> 02:33:04,880
Speaker 2: was there. So he didn't strike me as anything other

3054
02:33:04,959 --> 02:33:08,160
Speaker 2: than a figure who I should fear and cower in

3055
02:33:08,160 --> 02:33:12,440
Speaker 2: front of and only door or speak when spoken.

3056
02:33:12,920 --> 02:33:15,879
Speaker 1: His girlfriend is a year older than my daughter. Now,

3057
02:33:15,920 --> 02:33:19,800
Speaker 1: if that was my daughter Paris and this guy had

3058
02:33:19,840 --> 02:33:24,080
Speaker 1: his arm around as her boyfriend, right, that would I

3059
02:33:24,080 --> 02:33:25,200
Speaker 1: feel weird about? That would be?

3060
02:33:25,360 --> 02:33:27,640
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a you question. I'm actually gonna ask

3061
02:33:27,640 --> 02:33:30,600
Speaker 2: you that question, all right, So Steve, Yeah, they're touring

3062
02:33:30,680 --> 02:33:34,560
Speaker 2: Tuscany together. It's Bill Belichick and your daughter Paris, and

3063
02:33:34,600 --> 02:33:39,120
Speaker 2: they're sending you a postcard. Hey, hey dad, miss you

3064
02:33:39,160 --> 02:33:43,480
Speaker 2: a lot. Wish you could be here, Love Paris.

3065
02:33:43,680 --> 02:33:47,800
Speaker 1: I put it this way. When my daughter was born,

3066
02:33:47,840 --> 02:33:51,200
Speaker 1: I was already forty two. Yeah, he's older than I am.

3067
02:33:51,400 --> 02:33:57,360
Speaker 14: So it's like, buddy, I want to go back to

3068
02:33:58,000 --> 02:34:03,920
Speaker 14: love is blind and I away and sometimes there's a forty.

3069
02:34:03,600 --> 02:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Eight year again. He got his dream job at Chapel Hill.

3070
02:34:06,920 --> 02:34:09,320
Speaker 1: Won't kind out a lot of dreams coming true, all right?

3071
02:34:09,400 --> 02:34:11,160
Speaker 1: Coming up on the other side. We'll get you right.

3072
02:34:11,200 --> 02:34:15,360
Speaker 1: Back to the Big five game slate currently underway around

3073
02:34:15,360 --> 02:34:18,800
Speaker 1: the National Football League. This is Red Zone Radio to throw.

3074
02:34:18,760 --> 02:34:22,480
Speaker 10: Looking for mccaukey under pressure, Herbert running to his right,

3075
02:34:22,640 --> 02:34:23,360
Speaker 10: looking throwing to.

3076
02:34:23,360 --> 02:34:28,640
Speaker 5: The end zone, put touchdown Chargers.

3077
02:34:29,200 --> 02:34:35,160
Speaker 1: Who else? Ladd mccauckey KYSR ninety eight to seven Chargers

3078
02:34:35,440 --> 02:34:40,880
Speaker 1: Radio Network and the Chargers answer back against the Bucks

3079
02:34:40,920 --> 02:34:43,680
Speaker 1: Todd at seven six minutes to go in the first

3080
02:34:43,720 --> 02:34:46,119
Speaker 1: quarter on what's getting Red Zone Radio here? Steve Hartman

3081
02:34:46,160 --> 02:34:48,880
Speaker 1: and Rich Ornberger will lie from the tire rack dot

3082
02:34:48,920 --> 02:34:52,039
Speaker 1: Com studios want to thank the best supporting crew on

3083
02:34:52,080 --> 02:34:58,360
Speaker 1: the planet, starting with Matzi on the updates, Chris is, well,

3084
02:34:58,400 --> 02:35:01,080
Speaker 1: it's tough for Chris because he's got be watching this game.

3085
02:35:01,160 --> 02:35:03,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough for you coming up here, no question.

3086
02:35:03,680 --> 02:35:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm watching it. I'm watching it and talking to you.

3087
02:35:05,879 --> 02:35:08,360
Speaker 1: And then Bob Benson, of course, are a brilliant producer

3088
02:35:08,440 --> 02:35:11,600
Speaker 1: as well watching I mean, look at I get it, guys,

3089
02:35:11,920 --> 02:35:14,680
Speaker 1: I get it. You know, we're we're trying to do

3090
02:35:14,720 --> 02:35:19,280
Speaker 1: a job here while we're watching things that we are

3091
02:35:19,280 --> 02:35:22,480
Speaker 1: interested in watching, right, I mean you started sometimes you

3092
02:35:22,600 --> 02:35:26,080
Speaker 1: just get sort of lost in watching it and then realize, oh,

3093
02:35:26,120 --> 02:35:27,960
Speaker 1: that's right, we're actually doing a radio show and we

3094
02:35:28,000 --> 02:35:28,920
Speaker 1: actually have to talk.

3095
02:35:29,120 --> 02:35:31,520
Speaker 3: Did you about things? Did you see Jalen Hurts on

3096
02:35:31,560 --> 02:35:34,600
Speaker 3: that scramble there and did see him? Yeah? I had

3097
02:35:34,600 --> 02:35:36,200
Speaker 3: a clear lane to just pick up the first down,

3098
02:35:36,240 --> 02:35:38,600
Speaker 3: didn't take it, didn't take it, ran around in the

3099
02:35:38,640 --> 02:35:41,039
Speaker 3: backfield a little bit more, finally decided to go forward,

3100
02:35:41,040 --> 02:35:41,880
Speaker 3: and then he fumbled the ball.

3101
02:35:43,200 --> 02:35:46,400
Speaker 1: Barkley, by the way, three carries six yards. Okay, well

3102
02:35:46,560 --> 02:35:48,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna have This is gonna be gonna be an

3103
02:35:48,440 --> 02:35:51,160
Speaker 1: interesting game against obviously one of the best run defenses

3104
02:35:51,160 --> 02:35:52,200
Speaker 1: in the league, the Steelers.

3105
02:35:52,200 --> 02:35:54,840
Speaker 2: Well we say all that to say though, that Philadelphia

3106
02:35:54,959 --> 02:35:58,920
Speaker 2: currently leading this game three nothing in Philly against.

3107
02:35:58,520 --> 02:36:00,320
Speaker 1: The Steelers purchas five.

3108
02:36:00,520 --> 02:36:03,560
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson just took a deep sack on third down

3109
02:36:03,600 --> 02:36:06,240
Speaker 2: loss about eleven twelve yards.

3110
02:36:06,280 --> 02:36:08,080
Speaker 1: That was a real bad play.

3111
02:36:08,400 --> 02:36:10,760
Speaker 2: So the Steelers are going to be punning it right

3112
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:12,280
Speaker 2: back to the Philadelphia Eagles.

3113
02:36:12,800 --> 02:36:15,760
Speaker 1: The Bills are at it again, already lading the Lions

3114
02:36:15,760 --> 02:36:17,959
Speaker 1: seven nothing. They have a first and goal now at

3115
02:36:17,959 --> 02:36:20,240
Speaker 1: the Detroit nine yard line.

3116
02:36:20,240 --> 02:36:22,680
Speaker 10: Why have I never noticed how some of these harnesses

3117
02:36:22,720 --> 02:36:25,080
Speaker 10: get pulled that way like you noticed. I think it

3118
02:36:25,200 --> 02:36:29,560
Speaker 10: was Cook's harness, just like stretching back like three yards.

3119
02:36:29,600 --> 02:36:32,879
Speaker 10: I don't I don't remember this in past years of guys,

3120
02:36:32,920 --> 02:36:35,039
Speaker 10: I've seen this multiple weeks where like the harness gets

3121
02:36:35,080 --> 02:36:35,800
Speaker 10: a yanked reel.

3122
02:36:36,280 --> 02:36:38,760
Speaker 3: Cooper de Gen just fumbled on the punt return there.

3123
02:36:38,840 --> 02:36:40,000
Speaker 3: So Steelers have the.

3124
02:36:39,959 --> 02:36:44,240
Speaker 1: Ball, Steelers ball inside Philadelphia. How frustrating would it be

3125
02:36:44,320 --> 02:36:48,880
Speaker 1: for you if the if the Lions lose today and

3126
02:36:48,920 --> 02:36:51,039
Speaker 1: the Eagles were to also lose.

3127
02:36:51,400 --> 02:36:54,080
Speaker 2: But I am rooting for the Vikings to lose to Hey, bo,

3128
02:36:54,360 --> 02:36:57,360
Speaker 2: are you still an Eagles fan? Or have you now

3129
02:36:57,560 --> 02:36:59,160
Speaker 2: jumped ship in your back on the Rams?

3130
02:36:59,280 --> 02:37:00,320
Speaker 1: The Rams are doing good?

3131
02:37:00,400 --> 02:37:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm in between. I'm in between the cases

3132
02:37:02,959 --> 02:37:03,280
Speaker 3: right now.

3133
02:37:03,400 --> 02:37:05,880
Speaker 1: He keeps wearing Bears gear in here too. Yeah, he

3134
02:37:06,280 --> 02:37:08,800
Speaker 1: has a little bit of that maybe maybe once, all right?

3135
02:37:08,840 --> 02:37:12,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, fumble for the Eagles recovered by the Steeler

3136
02:37:12,800 --> 02:37:20,199
Speaker 1: Bills again another rushing touchdown. This was my unbelievable bold

3137
02:37:20,240 --> 02:37:23,520
Speaker 1: prediction is that Josh Allen would have more rushing touchdowns

3138
02:37:23,560 --> 02:37:27,039
Speaker 1: than passing touchdowns. Another one is that how random is

3139
02:37:27,080 --> 02:37:29,440
Speaker 1: that of a prediction of mine. Okay, So check this out.

3140
02:37:29,480 --> 02:37:31,800
Speaker 1: The way they do it is a little zone read.

3141
02:37:31,920 --> 02:37:35,640
Speaker 2: They had a lot of window dressing coming out of

3142
02:37:35,640 --> 02:37:37,959
Speaker 2: the backfield. You had one running back, go out to

3143
02:37:38,000 --> 02:37:41,039
Speaker 2: the right, play action, fake out the left, and then.

3144
02:37:41,040 --> 02:37:43,000
Speaker 1: Josh, I've gotten that is all. I bet. You're the

3145
02:37:43,000 --> 02:37:45,280
Speaker 1: guy that does the show every Saturday. What if I

3146
02:37:45,280 --> 02:37:46,720
Speaker 1: had come on the air seat? Can you give me

3147
02:37:46,760 --> 02:37:49,840
Speaker 1: a prop bet where Josh Allen would have more rushing

3148
02:37:49,920 --> 02:37:52,080
Speaker 1: touchdowns than passing touchdowns.

3149
02:37:52,080 --> 02:37:53,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if they they wouldn't have a prop

3150
02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:55,520
Speaker 2: like that, but I'll tell you right now, if you

3151
02:37:55,640 --> 02:37:59,280
Speaker 2: had Josh Allen anytime touchdowns two plus yeah, I mean

3152
02:37:59,320 --> 02:38:01,640
Speaker 2: you're already in the money. Yeah, I mean that the

3153
02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:03,560
Speaker 2: odds on that would be running to the bank. Why,

3154
02:38:03,640 --> 02:38:05,879
Speaker 2: I mean, what's six hundred plus seven hundred. All I'm

3155
02:38:05,879 --> 02:38:08,520
Speaker 2: saying right now is maybe you should start putting a

3156
02:38:08,560 --> 02:38:09,960
Speaker 2: little money on your wagers.

3157
02:38:10,000 --> 02:38:12,039
Speaker 1: Now. As soon as I put really tournament, if I

3158
02:38:12,080 --> 02:38:14,520
Speaker 1: put a penny on it, I'll lose immediately. That's the

3159
02:38:14,560 --> 02:38:17,320
Speaker 1: problem for my betting ways. All right. So Steele is

3160
02:38:17,360 --> 02:38:20,600
Speaker 1: now at first and ten at the Eagles eleven yard line.

3161
02:38:20,720 --> 02:38:23,040
Speaker 1: Eagles with the early three to nothing League. Cardinals are

3162
02:38:23,120 --> 02:38:26,520
Speaker 1: leading the Patriots three nothing. Colts up seven to nothing

3163
02:38:26,560 --> 02:38:29,840
Speaker 1: over the Broncos and they are in the red zone again.

3164
02:38:30,720 --> 02:38:33,840
Speaker 1: So the Colts off to a quick start here and

3165
02:38:33,879 --> 02:38:37,560
Speaker 1: the Broncos, in a big game for them, are struggling

3166
02:38:37,600 --> 02:38:40,280
Speaker 1: right now. Bow Knicks has already thrown an interception in

3167
02:38:40,360 --> 02:38:43,920
Speaker 1: this game. Yikes. Is this the beginning of the end

3168
02:38:44,120 --> 02:38:47,320
Speaker 1: of the Denver Broncos because their schedule this is is

3169
02:38:47,440 --> 02:38:49,680
Speaker 1: like a well they have to think about this. Yeah again,

3170
02:38:49,879 --> 02:38:52,920
Speaker 1: next Thursday, they're at SOFI against the Chargers. That's a

3171
02:38:53,000 --> 02:38:55,200
Speaker 1: tough game. Yeah, I was looking ahead at their skaled.

3172
02:38:55,320 --> 02:38:57,120
Speaker 1: Then they have to go at Cincinnati and then they

3173
02:38:57,120 --> 02:38:58,039
Speaker 1: get the Chiefs at home.

3174
02:38:58,360 --> 02:39:01,720
Speaker 2: Since he's not a good team record wise, but they're

3175
02:39:01,840 --> 02:39:05,760
Speaker 2: tricky out because of how talented their offense is. So yeah, yeah,

3176
02:39:05,800 --> 02:39:07,760
Speaker 2: you gotta score with them if you're gonna beat the

3177
02:39:08,160 --> 02:39:10,959
Speaker 2: if you're gonna beat the Bengals, especially on the road.

3178
02:39:11,879 --> 02:39:15,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's not easy. This is a big game

3179
02:39:15,160 --> 02:39:18,400
Speaker 1: again for the Broncos because the Dolphins lost. Yes, so

3180
02:39:18,520 --> 02:39:21,080
Speaker 1: the two teams that are really chasing with the Dolphins

3181
02:39:21,240 --> 02:39:24,080
Speaker 1: and the Colts. But you lose to the Colts and

3182
02:39:24,160 --> 02:39:25,119
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's.

3183
02:39:25,040 --> 02:39:29,680
Speaker 2: Like hello, and right now, eleven fifty in the first quarter,

3184
02:39:30,720 --> 02:39:33,560
Speaker 2: where we got a seven to nothing lead, or it

3185
02:39:33,560 --> 02:39:36,160
Speaker 2: should say fifteen minute or excuse me, start of the

3186
02:39:36,200 --> 02:39:39,800
Speaker 2: second quarter seven to nothing lead, Colts over Broncos. Right now,

3187
02:39:39,920 --> 02:39:43,800
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson with the lone rushing touchdown in the game

3188
02:39:44,000 --> 02:39:44,400
Speaker 2: so far.

3189
02:39:44,640 --> 02:39:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's their that's their offense. By the way,

3190
02:39:47,160 --> 02:39:50,120
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has got the Bucks on the move again.

3191
02:39:50,280 --> 02:39:53,880
Speaker 1: After the Chargers tie that game. Buccaneers now have a

3192
02:39:54,000 --> 02:39:56,640
Speaker 1: second and five at the Chargers eleven yard line. Baker

3193
02:39:56,720 --> 02:39:59,840
Speaker 1: Mayfield eight of nine hundred and seventeen yards and a

3194
02:40:00,080 --> 02:40:03,600
Speaker 1: score against. By the way, aren't the Chargers the number

3195
02:40:03,640 --> 02:40:06,240
Speaker 1: one scoring defense in the NFL? That's correct going into

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02:40:06,320 --> 02:40:08,560
Speaker 1: this week? They are still so. Right now, the Bucks

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02:40:08,600 --> 02:40:10,480
Speaker 1: are looking pretty good, all right?

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Speaker 2: Green Bay Seattle tonight? Who do you got the games

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Speaker 2: in Seattle in front of the you know what we're

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02:40:16,040 --> 02:40:16,520
Speaker 2: talking about?

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Speaker 1: For green Bay eight and five Seattle Seahawks. I don't

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02:40:20,120 --> 02:40:22,120
Speaker 1: know why Green Bay is a better team. I'm taking

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02:40:22,160 --> 02:40:26,879
Speaker 1: Seahawks tonight. I'm taking the Seahawks tonight. I think make

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Speaker 1: a pick, Go Pack, go keep it here more. Red

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Speaker 1: Zone Radio