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Speaker 1: Full Circle is an iHeart women's sports production and partnership

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Speaker 1: with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us

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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Happy Thanksgiving even though it was a week ago,

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Speaker 2: but give and how to show us to Thanksgiving? So

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Speaker 2: happy Thanksgiving to everybody. Welcome back to our last episode

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Speaker 2: of Full Circle for season one. Maria, are you how

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Speaker 2: do you feel? Are you sad? Are you happy? What

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Speaker 2: are the What are the feelings?

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're dude, I'm not that sad.

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Speaker 2: Break.

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be a season two.

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Speaker 2: We get a break, so I'm happy about that. Even

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Speaker 2: though I do love hanging out with y'all every week,

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Speaker 2: It'll be nice to have a little time to like

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Speaker 2: recalibrate and reimagine what this show is going to look

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Speaker 2: like in the future. But how was your Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 3: It was great. I like Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: It's a fun holiday, and I like that it feels

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Speaker 1: like a really really, really really long weekend, and I

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Speaker 1: like eating so nocal flights about stake Thanksgiving here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you? Well, you know, I kind of

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Speaker 2: acted like Thanksgiving didn't happen because I was stuck in La.

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Speaker 2: Not stuck, but the flights to Florida were absolutely ridiculous

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Speaker 2: and I wasn't able to even stay that long. So

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Speaker 2: me and Cannon just hung out in La and I

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Speaker 2: watched everybody else be with their family and their plates

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Speaker 2: It was okay. I did have a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a mental breakdown the night before Thanksgiving because I was

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Speaker 2: kind of like I should have went home, I should

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Speaker 2: have went home, but I was like, whatever, it's just

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Speaker 2: through it and me and Cannon just enjoyed our day.

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Speaker 3: Would you end up eating?

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Speaker 2: So I went to this restaurant that i'd like Thanksgiving food,

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Speaker 2: and I went and got it, but it made us

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Speaker 2: It made my stomach hurt, like I don't know, the

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Speaker 2: last like few Thanksgivings, and this has nothing to do

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving food has just not sat well with me, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. And I'm glad that that's well.

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Speaker 3: Because it's heavy so much and.

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Speaker 2: You just want to eat so much of it, and

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Speaker 2: that's exactly what I did, and my stomach said, girl,

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Speaker 2: you've been like eating really really good the last few weeks.

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Speaker 2: What is this?

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Speaker 1: So I looked down at my plate and I was like,

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Speaker 1: sweet potato, mac and cheese like everything. I was like,

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if that's healthy.

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Speaker 2: No, and then you eat it all together. Wait do

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Speaker 2: you do you let your food touch?

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Speaker 1: mac and cheese and the sweet potato.

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Speaker 2: All together all at one time. See, it's too much.

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Speaker 3: It's a very it's all gonna mix up in your stomach.

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Speaker 2: It's a very gluttonous day now that I'm really thinking

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Speaker 2: this is our last episode until twenty twenty six, So

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are, and I think

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Speaker 2: Like there's just like a lot of misconceptions out there

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Speaker 2: like what got me to where we are right now.

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Speaker 2: But I wanted to start with you, miss girl, doing

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Speaker 2: all of the things. Yeap, you first? You first, I'm just.

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Speaker 3: Listening, Okay, So where do I even start?

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Speaker 1: So I guess I'll start from college, so cause that's

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Speaker 1: I went to Georgia, so I'm an sec girl down

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Speaker 1: It's like the only sports fandom.

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Speaker 3: No, if Georgia loses, I am like down bad. But

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Speaker 3: I loved my experience there. I loved college.

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Speaker 1: I love college, Like I know that there's a lot

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Speaker 2: You need college, Like, is it super ridiculously expensive? Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: It's like Brian has like word vomit, but like in

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Speaker 3: I always got a game on my phone, but like

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Speaker 2: You know, I feel like we talk about everybody else

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Speaker 1: Shit, and women's sports is the exact like it's encompassing

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Speaker 2: And then that was like if anybody knows me, like,

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Speaker 2: You know. So I've been riding with Beautiful Fallers since

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Speaker 2: into their social media presence. And uh Selena, who now

435
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 2: works at USC as their general manager, I want to say,

436
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: like it's so funny, like she was like our social

437
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: media girl and now she's like general manager of like

438
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: one of the powerhouses in college room's basketball, like as

439
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: far as off course stuff, like so she's saw a vision,

440
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 2: so like she saw the vision and now like she's

441
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 2: doing it like humongous. They gave me a YouTube channel.

442
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: They helped me set up my YouTube channel. They helped

443
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: me edit a video for drafts. They helped us edit

444
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 2: a video for when me and my teammate went to

445
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: the three point shootout, and then I started making my

446
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: own videos from there, but that was because they helped

447
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: me start like the vlogging and stuff, so that's where

448
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: that came from. I get drafted. That's cool that that

449
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: was in Korea, like they they saw the vision and

450
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: it was really cool. And I remember even in my

451
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: rookie year, I went back to Duke during All Star

452
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: break because I was miserable, so I had to go

453
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: back and see my friends, and I think like that

454
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: same weekend, I like hit one hundred k on Instagram

455
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: or some shit, and like we were so excited, like

456
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 2: we were like, oh my god, I don't know I

457
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 2: hit No, I got a boot check, That's what it was.

458
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: I got my boot check and then I hit one

459
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: hundred k like the next year, right, so it was

460
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: like still like growing and growing and growing. But I

461
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: get to the league and I'm still making my YouTube videos.

462
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: But I was just getting just bad, bad vibes about it, right,

463
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: slick comments. Nobody was like asking me about it. Some

464
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 2: of my teammates were like good sports about it. They

465
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: would be into my videos, like y'all can go see

466
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: all the videos are still on my YouTube now. But

467
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: for the most part, like the re response and the

468
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: conversations were like very negative. So I was just kind

469
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: of like I was just like being myself. I'm just

470
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: trying to entertain myself, like I'm so just trying to

471
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: stay busy and out the way, and I happened to

472
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: just have a camera, like I bought myself a vlogging

473
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: camera and everything. I still have it to this day,

474
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: like I still have the same camera. And then it

475
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: was just like just a lot of negativity just continue

476
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: to be like thrown my way as far as like

477
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: social med and the pictures and posting and all that

478
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So again, the crazy thing about it

479
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: is like no one ever said it to like my face,

480
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: Like I always would hear it from someone else or

481
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: I would hear it like later on or something like that.

482
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: So I feel like after COVID, which was the year

483
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: I got cut, that's kind of when I kind of

484
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: I don't like to say I quit the vlogging, but

485
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: like I just stopped vlogging because I was just like

486
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 2: people are still people keep throwing this back in my face,

487
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,479
Speaker 2: and I don't understand why because I'm still showing up

488
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: every day and doing my job. I'm still working really hard.

489
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: I like documented like my whole off season the year

490
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 2: I got waived and before camp even started, so like

491
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: it was that like that was like a gut punch

492
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 2: to me. Was Okay, y'all said that, Oh she doesn't

493
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 2: show basketball enough, Oh she doesn't show herself in the

494
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 2: gym enough. And I spent the whole off season doing

495
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: just that and I get I got cut anyway before

496
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: I even got to camp, Like y'all didn't even see

497
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: what I was.

498
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: Do you think that the.

499
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: Do you think that some of the that the social

500
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: media stuff had something to do with you and cut?

501
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: To be honest, I to this day, Mariah, I have

502
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: no idea why I got waved from the links, no idea,

503
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: and it's in the past now, Like I don't really

504
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: you might think like I feel a way about it,

505
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 2: Like I don't feel a way about it, but it's

506
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: still kind of like what the fuck? Like how you

507
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: get fired all your day off? That's how I felt.

508
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: That's literally how I felt, And it was disappointing because

509
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: I was working my ass off in that off season. Mike,

510
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: I felt so good so for me to have that

511
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: happen after like spending a lot of time and money

512
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 2: away from my family, like I was in Florida training

513
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: like my parallelic my family was in Atlanta still, like

514
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: I went to Miami and was training and for it

515
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: to just be like whatever, no conversation, like nothing, like

516
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: it was just so strange, and I was just like,

517
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: is this what being a pro athlete is like? Constantly

518
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: having to like make sure everything's good and if it's not,

519
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: they're not going to tell you. They're just gonna cut you.

520
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: And that's the reality for so many players in the

521
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: league across all sports, but definitely ours because of the

522
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 2: lack of protected contracts. But there was like a shift

523
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: that happened in me in twenty twenty one. Even though

524
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: I ended up winning a championship in Chicago, like that

525
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: ended up being a huge blessing, but there was like

526
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: a shift in me as far as being so transparent

527
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: and open and vulnerable, and I kind of like closed

528
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: myself off a little bit and that I don't know

529
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,239
Speaker 2: if I can't say that was wrong or right, But

530
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: in hindsight, do I wish I didn't, Like I don't know,

531
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: like I don't really know because things still haven't been

532
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: like walk in the park, Like I have yet to

533
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: have a season that's just like I can just play

534
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: basketball and not worry about anything else. And again, I

535
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: don't know if this experience is just like it's not

536
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: just my experience. I just am more vocal about it

537
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: than I feel like some other players are. But at

538
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: the end of the day, like I really love basketball,

539
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: I really love hoop, I really love being in the gym.

540
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: And there's a reason why I've been in the league

541
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: for now it's going to be nine years. Like that's

542
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: not on accident. It's very hard to do to stay

543
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: in any job for nine years. So I just want

544
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: to be like I want to go back to Lexi

545
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: before she got jaded by being a professional athlete, Like

546
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: I really want to go back to that because she's fun.

547
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: She's fun, she's funny. You know, she doesn't really care.

548
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: She's like just authentic. Which is another reason why I

549
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna be hard because I've never really

550
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: changed myself. I just have shown less of it to

551
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: the masses, you know, not like I'm saying I'll be like,

552
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: here's my business. Everybody look at my business. Like I'm

553
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: not already doing that, but.

554
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but I also think that it will help

555
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: you get a little bit of that spark back that

556
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: you had a duke where you felt like you were

557
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: connecting on the floor and with your teammates and just

558
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: generally to basketball unto yourself in that way because you

559
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: were being so open and having fun and you felt

560
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: like people were pouring into you, like they were like, letsie,

561
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: please vlog and then you get to.

562
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: The w and they're like, let's away. Yeah.

563
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: But I feel like, now if you kind of bring

564
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: back that era of creative content that feels true to

565
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: you and being yourself to your audience a little more,

566
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: you might start feeling more connected again to where it's

567
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: less like because you feel more I.

568
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: Get a lot of hate on the Internet. Okay, I

569
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: can hate on the internet, ever.

570
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: Sure, and I could.

571
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: I literally do not care.

572
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: And it sounds so crazy, like there's been moments where

573
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I care, but I feel like I care more about

574
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: getting Internet hate when I'm.

575
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: Like trying to do something that isn't supernatural to me

576
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: than I do.

577
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're sitting myself and being honest, like, oh

578
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: my gosh, this is so out of that field. But

579
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: I made a video about Wicked the other day and

580
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: I was basically liked people who need to like leave the.

581
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: First of all, can we finish your thought because I

582
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: say about the discourse surrounding that damn movie like it's

583
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: out of control.

584
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: Okay, my thought is, and this honestly goes, I actually

585
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: have a woman's sports connection to this. I saw Wicked

586
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: last week, and I also saw a photo of Angel

587
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: rees it's always her, but Angel Reeves walking into a

588
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: magic game and leggings, and all the comments and like

589
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: all these quote tweets.

590
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: Were all like, I need to get off that app

591
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: but you fail me. Everybody.

592
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: The conversation was she got a bbl she got her

593
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: hips filled out, blah blah blah.

594
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: I saw Wicked.

595
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: The whole conversation of the movie is they're so skinny, get.

596
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: Them a burger. Oh my god. Ew I was so

597
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: grossed out by them the whole time.

598
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: And my thing about that is number one, When I

599
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: see a beautiful and accomplished and talented woman, no matter

600
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: what her body looks like, it just doesn't really register

601
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: or occur to me. It's like I feel the same

602
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: way kind of about sexuality, Like I don't look at

603
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: somebody and I'm like, are they gayir straight?

604
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: Like I don't really care, and so what.

605
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: Somebody's body looks like has no effect on me, like

606
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: at all. And so to see such a beautiful movie

607
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: like Wicked, and for the world to know Ariana Grande

608
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: has been through a hard time, for the world to

609
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: know angeuries get shit out all the time, like for

610
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: the conversation to be especially as a woman like hah,

611
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: you're skinny. Oh my god, you gotta bbl like that

612
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: annoys me. I don't feel like we should be commenting

613
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: on anybody's body in that way.

614
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: But at least not publicly. Just some of the things

615
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: that people are so comfortable commenting and saying. And I'm

616
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: glad that you made the connection to like a woman

617
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: a woman athlete, because it's like the fandom has turned

618
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: into something strange and that's like across the board though,

619
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: So that is like another reason why I'm kind of

620
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: like just removing myself from all of that. And I

621
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: want to let the people do what they do, because

622
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: everyone's entitled to their opinion. Everyone's entitled to set online

623
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: and argue with strangers all day if they want to.

624
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: Everyone's entitled to talk about things that have nothing to

625
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: do with them, Go ahead, do it. But I'm just

626
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: bowing out the conversation surrounding Wicked. First of all, I've

627
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: I went and saw the Broadway show when I was

628
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: a kid. I know all the songs. I know all

629
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: the songs word for word. I love the play, I

630
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: love the movies. I'm like, I love the Wizard of Oz,

631
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 2: like I the Whiz returned to Oz, y Wizard of Oz,

632
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: anything made a Wizard of Oz, I've seen it. I've

633
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: dressed up as Dorothy. I was just a scarecrow this

634
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: year for Halloween, like I am in the Wizard of

635
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: Oz universe. Guys, Okay, the way people are just like,

636
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: First of all, people are like, oh, I've never seen

637
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: First of all, I hate start well, I've never seen this. Well,

638
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet. I've never seen the Wizard

639
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: of Oz. I've never seen the play. I'm so wide

640
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 2: Harry anything at all? And then how are you gonna

641
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: tell the people the women and men get pay lots

642
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: of money to do this? How to do it when

643
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: you have been in zero films, zero Broadway shows, like

644
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: made zero albums. You're not one letter away from an egot?

645
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: What are we talking about? What are we doing? I

646
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: feel the same way about sports fans. You have not

647
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: logged a single minute on a court professionally, right, You've

648
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: never worked out three four hours a day. Like you've

649
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: never won a championship. You've never been part of a championship.

650
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: You've never done any of these things, and you're gonna

651
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: sit around and tell all of us how we can

652
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: do it better. No.

653
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: But also when athletes tell you about their experience or

654
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: they have analysis about their sport, or it comes to mind,

655
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: for example, like you talking to you and Andre about basketball,

656
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: like both of you have played and have credientials, and

657
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: why you're speaking about these things. Like Andrea goes up

658
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: there and she's analyzing basketball all the way she is

659
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: because she played basketball and she knows basketball, like and

660
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: you have somebody like Cam Newton comes to mind, Like

661
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: he goes on there and he's talking about all the

662
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks. Yeah, Cam Newton gets to go up there

663
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: and talk about quarterbacks however he wants. And I might

664
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: have my own opinion on watching sports based on me

665
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: being a fan and me watching, but I am not

666
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: going to argue with Lexi and Andrea about the scheme

667
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: a team needs to be running and what they need

668
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: to be doing and the.

669
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: Defense they need to be.

670
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue with them about that, nor am

671
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: I going to tell them, no, you're wrong. You guys

672
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: should have said this because I don't know, like they

673
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: know right, And I'm humble enough that I could sit

674
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: and listen and be like, oh, that actually makes a

675
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: lot of sense. And on the wicked point, I'm like,

676
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: my main thing outside of just talking about their bodies,

677
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: which I thought was gross and distasteful, and you guys

678
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: are weird, especially since there are actual like there are

679
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: people who are underway, they'll probably see those comments that

680
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: like can't help it and are like, oh, so my

681
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: body's gross, Like I just think that that's so weird.

682
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: But second of all, like you mentioned people getting paid

683
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: a lot of money to make that film, right and

684
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: us telling them how to do their jobs. I keep

685
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: seeing people talk about like the makeup that people are

686
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: Like I hated Ariana strip lashes.

687
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: What kind of lashes do you think they have?

688
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: In Oz?

689
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: It's Oz, It's Oz, a thirty inch bus down by

690
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: what's his day?

691
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: By Ergan day?

692
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: What are we doing like at the end of the day,

693
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: Like this is it's fantasy It's like there are some

694
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: things that you guys just have to simply use your

695
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 2: imagination with. Like and I know in the world of

696
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: AI and everything is whatever on the internet, Like the

697
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 2: Internet is not real. It's not a real place. So

698
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: we go watch these films, and we go watch these

699
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: sporting events. These are real people doing real shit, with

700
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: real emotions and real reactions and real hard fucking work

701
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: to make these things happen. So just the over criticizing

702
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: like it's exhausting, like it's wicked.

703
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: It's a lot harder to make a three hour film

704
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: that has been anticipated for the last fifteen years than

705
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: it is to make a two minute TikTok about why

706
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: you didn't like it?

707
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: Professionals and nobody and again, nobody asked, nobody asked you,

708
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: Nobody asked. And again I'm taking my own advice here, guys.

709
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: Nobody asked me to be the mouthpiece promoting women's basketball.

710
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: I will own that no one asked me to do it.

711
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: I thought that it was something that I wanted to do.

712
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: No.

713
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: I want to tell story. I want to be a storyteller, right,

714
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to be an analyst. I don't want

715
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 2: to regurgitate facts in numbers, want to I want to

716
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: tell stories. I want to make people feel comfortable coming

717
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: on this show and be able to talk about whatever

718
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: they want to talk about. If we bring on a

719
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: guest and they don't want to talk about basketball at all,

720
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 2: that's not We're not gonna allow that. We're gonna sneak

721
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: it in there somewhere, but we go sneaking in there somewhere.

722
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: But wait, I'm not following.

723
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: We're going to sneak it in there somewhere. But I

724
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: just want to be able to talk freely about all

725
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: types of things that have to do with sports, because

726
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: being a woman you have a lens. Being a woman

727
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: in sports you have a different lens. And I feel

728
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 2: like culturally, like women's sports is like at the center

729
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: right now of so many things going on women's sports,

730
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: sports in general, but definitely women's sports, especially in the

731
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: last few years, and I feel like there's just so

732
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: many things that we can discuss and talk about. Well.

733
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: Also, I feel like women not to be you know,

734
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: the friend that's two woke, but I feel like women

735
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: get boxed into a box and a role in a

736
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: way that men don't, especially in this space. For example,

737
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: when Lexi brought up to me the changes she wants

738
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: to make to the form out of the show, I

739
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, this kind of sounds very similar to

740
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: Nightcap with Ocho and Shannon Sharp. Not literally that cap,

741
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: but it reminded me of the fact that they're both

742
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: former athletes. Shannon was an analyst on ESPN, the Worldwide

743
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: Leader in Sports. Like they have all of these different

744
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: hots they were, and then they're on Nightcap and I'll

745
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: see clips on my TikTok and go a viral of

746
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: them talking about like the most random, egregious, like insane stuff,

747
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, while they're also debriefing the NFL games from

748
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: last night, and it all just kind of weaves in

749
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: and that's kind of allowed. And I feel like the

750
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 1: girlies don't really have a space like that, Like, yeah,

751
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: we come on and we're like, oh my god, did

752
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: you see the CBA deadline got extended again, which actually

753
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: happened and is crazy, But then we just talk about

754
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: it and we like have a conversation.

755
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be so like everything does.

756
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: Have to have like a huge takeaway and a disclaimer

757
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: and this and that.

758
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 2: Just talking and then even being a current player still

759
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: has present and it's certain challenges that you don't know

760
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: that they're there until they appear, not saying that like

761
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 2: doing the show this summer was hard. It wasn't hard

762
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: to do, especially the fact that I was not playing

763
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: at all. It actually made it quite easy. But I

764
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: don't foresee that being my situation moving forward, like I'm

765
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: putting it in the universe now, like I will not

766
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: deal with what I dealt with this past summer. I

767
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 2: just won't, but only because of how hard I've been working,

768
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: not because I'm going to be like, no play me

769
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: in the game, da da dah. No. I've been working

770
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: my asshof and I'm really excited for next season if

771
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 2: we have one. But like you say, Mariah, the league

772
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: is playing, that's what's playing, not me, not us. Oh god,

773
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: I cannot can we can.

774
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: We get a quick We're almost like we've been we

775
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: were talking a long time. But I do need a

776
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: quick little blurb about that because I like.

777
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: What the league is trifling period the end. I I

778
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: am actually like in our last meeting when I was

779
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: sitting on it the CBA meeting, like I audibly gasped

780
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: multiple times and I was in there typing like my

781
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: little questions like asking them a bunch of stuff, and

782
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: the answers they were giving me, I was just kind

783
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: of like, really, WNBA, like what are we doing? Like

784
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: what is going on? Like just the lack of value

785
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: that they continue to present to us is very problematic.

786
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: And now we say we do finally reach an agreement,

787
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: we have we still have all these conversations like in

788
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: our in the back of our minds, like y'all can

789
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: give us what we want eventually, but we're not going

790
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: to forget what y'all presented to us at first, like this,

791
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: this is what you value us as, this is what

792
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 2: you see us as, these are the opportunities that you're

793
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: presenting to us. We're not going to forget these conversations.

794
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 2: And I hope that we're able to find a happy medium.

795
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: But like I always have been saying, like, there are

796
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: so many things that we haven't even gotten to yet,

797
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: And I'm just saying that in being in the CBA meetings,

798
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: the Executive Committee, their conversations, like I don't really know

799
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: much about those conversations, but the information that they're bringing

800
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: to the masses and the CBA stuff like lots of

801
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: work to do, and it's just been very disappointing as

802
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: a player and then as someone that does want to

803
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: work in front office at some point like that we

804
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: have such opposing views and priorities and we have work

805
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: to do, which is why we extended it for sixty days.

806
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: But again we did that last time, so not to

807
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: worry yet, been here before, but this could change everything,

808
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: like for the future. For now and then it's just

809
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: like we just have more leverage than we've ever had.

810
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: And it's not the reality for all players, contrary to

811
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: what some people do believe, Like it is normal that

812
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: players play year round, Like I think some of us

813
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: actually enjoy playing year round. I mean the NBA, they

814
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: didn't your play year round two so it's not it's

815
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: not crazy that we play eight nine months out of

816
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 2: the year. The NBA is the same. They just get

817
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: to stay here and do it. So that's not like

818
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 2: abnormal at all. That was like it's an expectation. Basically

819
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: when you go to college, Oh, you can to be

820
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: playing like most of the year or you will quickly

821
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: learn that you will get left behind if you don't

822
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: go play somewhere. So thankfully, you know unrivaled athletes unlimited.

823
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: Now Project b are giving people more opportunities to play

824
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: year round and get compensated handsomely. You don't have to

825
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 2: go off to Europe, you don't have to go play

826
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: in a village in the middle of nowhere unless you

827
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: want to. I'm telling you some players that actually really

828
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: enjoy it. But we just have more leverage than we've

829
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: ever had before. And that's opportunities, sponsorships, brand deals, all

830
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 2: of the stuff that we just didn't have what five

831
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: years ago, six years ago, whenever, the last CBA was

832
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Yeah, So where we are as athletes, it's

833
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 2: like night and day. And then it kind of seems

834
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: like they're using they're kind of using NIL to their

835
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: advantage because they're like looking at these players coming in

836
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, they're good, they got money, Like

837
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: they don't need us to handle this, they don't need

838
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: us for this, they don't need us for that. And

839
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: we're like, we're not gonna let y'all so do themand

840
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: and we're not gonna let y'all use the top one

841
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: percent of high earners of NIL, Like help y'all with

842
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: y'all's motives and negotiations like, yes, there are, there are athletes.

843
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: There's also a ton of money, but there's also a

844
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: lot of athletes that don't. More athletes don't than do.

845
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: And the top one percent of NIL earners aren't even women,

846
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: so that that's like not even a You're talking about

847
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: the top one percent of like a demographic that is

848
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: already being shown less appreciation than another demographic. So you're

849
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: already pulling like a skewed amount. And then on top

850
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: of that, if the top one percent, the top one

851
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: percent NIL earners are college football players, and you think

852
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: when they get to the NFL, they're like, no, not exactly.

853
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: So we're not going for that. Clearly, we're not going

854
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: for none of it. But I do want there to

855
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: be a season, like I do want the WNBA to exist.

856
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: I love playing in the WNBA, despite the ups and

857
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: downs of my career. I would not trade this job

858
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: for any other job. So there's that very much love hate.

859
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be sick if there's no W.

860
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: What I was gonna be like, can I catch a break? Shit?

861
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: But I think there's just too much MO money, There's

862
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 2: too much at stake. The two new teams are coming,

863
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 2: it would just be just a humongous l if we

864
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 2: don't have a season.

865
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Speaker 3: When is the expansion draft again, like in a couple

866
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: of weeks, right.

867
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 2: I don't think we can have one until the CBA signed.

868
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, Like I'm saying, there's like so many

869
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: things that have to be negotiated in the CBA, so

870
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the expansion drafts falls under that umbrella

871
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: of negotiated terms. So yeah, it's gonna be interesting. It's

872
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: a fight. I mean, Terry warned us when we opted out.

873
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 2: She's like, y'all better be ready, y'all better be ready

874
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: to fight. We're like, yeah, okay, No, she was not

875
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: over exaggerating one bit, Like not even a little bit.

876
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: I think she probably could have said be ready for

877
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 2: a blood bath or something like. I don't know, we

878
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 2: have a lot of work to do, but I'm excited

879
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: for the strides that we have made. And then my

880
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: dad just actually sent me an article about the proposal

881
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: and it's just so funny, like how vague they keep

882
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 2: it to where they're still making us look like wildly

883
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: ungrateful and all these things, and we can't obviously say

884
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: too too much, but it's just really irritating how the

885
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: negotiations are being reported on because it's like ten of

886
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: the truth, like omission is still not the truth, so

887
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: that's they're doing a lot of omitting over there, so

888
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: that's kind of annoying, but they know what they're doing.

889
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: Like I said last time, it's negotiations and they're being

890
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: a little messy over there. But whatever, it is what

891
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: it is.

892
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: Hopefully it all gets worked out because this is too much.

893
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: But okay, so before we do go, since it is

894
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: our last episode of the season, I think we should

895
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: both do like a new season what's it called resolution

896
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: for something that we want out of our out.

897
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: Of season two?

898
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: Okay, you want me to go first? Yeah, okay, my

899
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: season two resolution will be I mean, I said it

900
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: earlier for everyone to get to know me and understand

901
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: me more, whatever that looks like, through socials, through engagements,

902
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 2: more live shows, just being more open. I feel like

903
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: my experiences in the league has made me kind of

904
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: closed off. I'll own that, and I just want to

905
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: like work back to being the more open, care free

906
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: version of myself that I was when I first got

907
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: into the league, and I think this is like the

908
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: perfect place to do it. It's our platform. We get

909
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: to do whatever we want with it, and I'm excited

910
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: for this pivot. I think it's going to be great

911
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: for both of us, but definitely for me because this

912
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: is our baby and we work really hard to bring

913
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: this show together, and I just want it to be,

914
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: you know, a place where I could just be myself

915
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: without feeling censored or worried about what people are going

916
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: to say because it doesn't really matter. So yeah, that's

917
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: my resolution.

918
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 3: I want it to be.

919
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: I want us to be like the space that fans

920
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: of women's sports and the girls come and they're like

921
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 1: they just have fun. Like I want people to feel

922
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: like they enjoy the show. It's super authentically us, Like

923
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: people want to come out to our live shows that

924
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: I really want to build up this audience that's like.

925
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: Kind of obsessed with what we're building, you know what

926
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 3: I mean.

927
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: Like I just want to build this ecosystem that's like

928
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 1: super fun and authentically us and like shows that sports

929
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: and that's been my whole career objective. But like sports

930
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be this dramatic thing, like it can.

931
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: Be like just us talking you know.

932
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: Key key, like bring everything's so serious, like I just

933
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: want to like shit, say gigs, like. Everything does not

934
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: have to be a think piece. Everything doesn't have to

935
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: be a hot take. Sometimes you could just be talking

936
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 2: and if Mariah thinks one thing and I think something else, cool,

937
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 2: It's probably better that way because it is actually boring

938
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: if we do agree on every single thing. I mean,

939
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: we usually do, but again, we have two very different perspectives,

940
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: and we're both women in sports, and I think that

941
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: I want to also do a better job of getting

942
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: your opinion on stuff and how you feel about things

943
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: and things that you want to talk about, because I

944
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: feel like we just hyper focused on WNBA through the summer,

945
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: which I thought was amazing, but it made me realize

946
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: that that's not my passion. Is not to be a reporter,

947
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: to regurgitate facts and stats and scores like I don't

948
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 2: want to do that. I've been able to do that

949
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: in a studio, I've been able to do it on

950
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: a play by play, and I did it here, and

951
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how many more times I need to

952
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: realize that it's not what I want to do. I

953
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 2: want to just be able to be myself and talk

954
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: freely about all the things, but also tied into this

955
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 2: huge ecosystem of women's sports because it's a beautiful place

956
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: when you get into the right pocket of it. It's

957
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: amazing because I've seen the not so good pockets, and

958
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 2: I can understand why people are like no, But we

959
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: want to make this a safe pocket, a fun pocket,

960
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 2: a shits and gigs pocket, a one stop shop for

961
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: everything women's sports and culture. And I think that is

962
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: going to be our pivot and I'm really excited for

963
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: season two. I'm really excited me too.

964
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 3: Well, we will see you guys again next time. Next

965
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: time we see you, it'll be season two.

966
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys enjoy this pivot that we're implement and

967
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna miss you guys so much.

968
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 2: We are also get your tickets for Athletes Unlimited. Get

969
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 2: them now, Get them now, They're on sale. Nashville, Tennessee

970
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 2: is going to be lit. So come support the girls,

971
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: and Mariah will be there when I don't know when,

972
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: but she will be there.

973
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: I'll be there.

974
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: She'll be there. So thank you guys again, I do

975
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: want to say thank y'all for rocking with us. This

976
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: community that we've built is so special. I hope that

977
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: y'all will continue to support us and tune in even

978
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: with our little pivot. What we did this season and

979
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 2: season one will always be very special to us, and

980
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 2: I really appreciate y'all helping us grow, helping us learn

981
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: about ourselves, and also spreading the gospel of women's sports

982
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: because women's sports is so important. So thank y'all. Season one.

983
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: That's a wrap. We will see y'all in twenty twenty six.

984
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: Bye bye.

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00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to Full Circle.

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00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with more basketball for the girls,

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00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: by the girls.

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00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,359
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00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,920
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Speaker 1: hosted by Lexi Brown and Mariah Rose. Our executive producer

992
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: is Jesse Katz. Our supervising producer is Grace Fused. Our

993
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,400
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