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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome in to Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought you

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Speaker 1: with you on a Friday edition. Now you live in Buddy, Hello, Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: I thought I didn't realize I had a bunch of

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Speaker 1: the cold this morning. Little brisk, little brisk on the

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Speaker 1: walk with Buddy Garretty this morning. I feel like the

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Speaker 1: last time it was this cold was Christmas Eve. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you're in the right neck of the woods

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Speaker 1: with that, I mean, not anywhere close to what Christmas.

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Speaker 1: That was a whole another animal. But no, this this

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Speaker 1: was it was around nine this morning on the on

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Speaker 1: the walk. He was not necessarily enthused about the walk. Um,

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Speaker 1: I was less enthused about the walk, especially at the

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Speaker 1: first guest of wind hit you. Well, that's it, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the that's the operation. There is that

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Speaker 1: that first gust of wind that gets you, and that's

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Speaker 1: that's what sets you back a bit. Um I had.

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Speaker 1: I will acknowledge that I had, and I'll share this

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Speaker 1: with you right at the top that you are aware,

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Speaker 1: give you that there is some sort of a balloon

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Speaker 1: floating above Montana. Is China invading Montana? So I mean

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Speaker 1: there are some military assets there are in Montana. I

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Speaker 1: don't um, I don't believe so, but that didn't stop

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Speaker 1: me from having fun with my dad last night with

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Speaker 1: maps of Chinese satellite balloons. So one of the images

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Speaker 1: Lauren I has sent me, he goes, look at this,

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Speaker 1: and it was it showed like the balloon, the jets

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Speaker 1: like circling around it like the military jets. And the

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Speaker 1: map of where it was was is about thirty miles

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Speaker 1: from where I grew up, so it's right in the backyard,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. Which then, of course I fired that

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Speaker 1: might want to saddle up, get a couple of guns

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Speaker 1: and some scabbards and a forty five on your hip

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Speaker 1: and see what you can sort out there, buddy. Um

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Speaker 1: And then he his response, where immediately was where did

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Speaker 1: you get this? Was? This? From the Twitter. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: from the Twitter. That's where it was. So he was

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Speaker 1: in you know. He he was very curious, which then

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Speaker 1: led to to your point, the military assets. You know,

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Speaker 1: that part of the country, especially specifically that north central

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Speaker 1: Montana was a a huge housing spot of nuclear missile

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Speaker 1: silos was out there. There was one five minutes from

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Speaker 1: where I grew up, and I has asked my dad

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Speaker 1: and he said most of them have been have been

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Speaker 1: vacated in the last twenty years, but there are still

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Speaker 1: some out there. Um. So I thought, well, there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's it. And then it got me thinking about Red Don,

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Speaker 1: which is basically I spent most of my life in

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Speaker 1: preparation for a Russian attack and what would happen if

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Speaker 1: we had to go into the hills and hide a

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Speaker 1: little bit. And I feel like I'm properly prepared. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you are. I don't know about the rest

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Speaker 1: we get plenty of plenty of supplies. I saw the

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Speaker 1: story and I just shook my head. And they don't

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Speaker 1: want to shoot it down because I could cause day

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Speaker 1: I'm like, how big is this bull? Well? And then

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Speaker 1: the Chinese are saying that it's a weather balloon to

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Speaker 1: monitor weather. Um that went, it's a long way off track.

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Speaker 1: I would think if you're monitoring the weather around China, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thought of like the uh, like the little blimp that

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Speaker 1: they use it like calves games to drop the T shirts,

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Speaker 1: like with a little a little propelled those guys like

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Speaker 1: was that is that the motor? Then it took to

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Speaker 1: get over, Like let's take a minute there quick like

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Speaker 1: If you shoot the balloon, Okay, there might be like

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Speaker 1: the time, if ever now is it? Apparently a guy

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Speaker 1: dad's response. Yeah, he was all, what was this on

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was just amazing. It was so I was.

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Speaker 1: It entertained me for like thirty minutes as I was

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Speaker 1: I had this. This was my kids loved this, So

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Speaker 1: from a presentation standpoint for for ESPN a bad job

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Speaker 1: We talked about this yesterday. I said, is there going

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Speaker 1: Like that's the greatest test. Again, that goes back to

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Speaker 1: intriguing thing of the night. Um, were you watching it live?

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Speaker 1: what happened. He kept saying like that Mitchell was the aggressor,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, yeah, because they don't have a fifth year

426
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Speaker 1: option on him. He's the same age as Burrow from

427
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Speaker 1: a retention standpoint, so yeah, he would be Um, well,

428
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Speaker 1: let's see, no, he would be going into his fourth year.

429
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: He's doing extension. He's the same place A. J. Brown

430
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: was Um last year. Brown is the first round pick,

431
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: but that's that's that's where he is. So they have

432
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Speaker 1: him next he's there next year. But you're either gonna

433
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Speaker 1: do an extension or you're gonna trade something for him

434
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: so that you can get an asset back. You're not

435
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: gonna let him reach true free agency. Um. They've got

436
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: a lot going on down there, um around the NFL.

437
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: Derek Carr telling ESPN Stephen Holder during the Pro Bowl

438
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Speaker 1: games he has no intention of extending the February fift

439
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: trigger on his contract facilitated trade. No kidding. This contract

440
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: includes forty million bucks and injury guaranteed salary. It's fully

441
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: guaranteed three days after the Super Bowl. He will see

442
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: every penny of that. We do have. Sound of Car

443
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: on ESPN after his Pro Bowl performance yesterday. This is fun.

444
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Speaker 1: Let's say to listen, you throw a touch it down

445
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: and passes in Vegas before, you've been on fire? Have

446
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: you ever been that hot in Las Vegas? Not that hot? Uh,

447
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: It's probably why I'm going somewhere else. Bro. Well, if

448
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: this was your last outing in Las Vegas, they are

449
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: definitely going to miss you. Ryan Clark with an odd question.

450
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: I think he's had a lot of big games in Vegas.

451
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: Obviously that matter a little bit more. Car stepped right

452
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: into it, enjoyed it, languished in it. It was fun

453
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: to I think he's secretly loving this. He is too.

454
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: I mean, they look like bozos. They're gonna look like

455
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: bozos unless they somehow get Rogers. That's kind of the

456
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: only path. And they have yet to allow him permission

457
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: to talk to another team. He and his agent, well

458
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He's not going to because he wants the

459
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: forty million they're gonna pay. Here's how this goes like,

460
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders haven't even said, hey, why don't you try

461
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 1: to find something. Well, they're not going to because they

462
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: know better. He's gonna get forty million guaranteed three days

463
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: after the super Bowl, and then they're gonna have to

464
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: cut him. He's not gonna help them facilitate anything. He's

465
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Speaker 1: gonna get forty million, he's gonna get cut, and then

466
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be a true free agent. So he's under

467
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: no there's zero incentive for him. This again goes back

468
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: to how bad they botched this whole operation, because there

469
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: was a way to handle this where maybe you could

470
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Speaker 1: have gotten something. I mean, Dave Derek Carr has value.

471
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: Let him play the last two games of the year,

472
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Speaker 1: first and fourth. He could absolutely be. I mean, we're

473
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Speaker 1: gonna go around the NFC South here, coming up in

474
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: the in the second north easterly. I mean you're talking

475
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: about you put him on New Orleans or the Bucks.

476
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: That's the best team in the division. That division is brutal,

477
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: So he has real value. They blew it with the

478
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: way they handled and how disrespectful they were with him.

479
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: So now they're gonna scratch a check to him for

480
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: forty million, which they don't have. They don't have the

481
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,239
Speaker 1: money to do. That's what people always say, they have

482
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: to they gotta have forty But yeah's always been the

483
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: issue with them. Yeah, even with a new stadium, new facilities, everything,

484
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: he's still bleeding money. Yeah, it's hard to make well.

485
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: He built that spaceship house. I guess. I don't know.

486
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: He gets million a year from the TV. I ought

487
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: to be able to make it work, but that's the

488
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: way it's gonna go. So car will get his money

489
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: and then he'll become a free agent. I mentioned Aaron

490
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Speaker 1: Rodgers for the Raiders. He is at Pebble Beach playing

491
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: the Pillow Beach pro am. When I asked you had

492
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Speaker 1: any news to share with the crowd. He says, I'm

493
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: not going to San Francisco, so that's in the shadow

494
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: of the Bay Area, Monterey Peninsula, and uh I was

495
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: asked he was going to was not keeping people. Probably

496
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: a Niners fan, my guest ask him that question, because

497
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: that would be Niners country out there that event. There

498
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: was a time that that was a really it still

499
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: feels like it's a lot of fun, but I don't

500
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: know that, Like the Gulf's not great like it used

501
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: to be, but it was. It was musty in the

502
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: winter months like it was. It was always it would

503
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: always go into UM on the national like window, like

504
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: when the Super Bowl was two weeks or super Bowl

505
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: used to be this weekend. No last weekend was what

506
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: it used is the old days was the Super Bowl.

507
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: So this the A T and T Pello Beach pro

508
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: am would usually lead into the first Lakers Celtics game

509
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: of the year on CBS UM, the first national televised

510
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: television televised televised NBA game on CBS usually came on

511
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: that weekend as well. They led into one another UM

512
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: and a restaurrant issued yesterday for Bengals running back Joe

513
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: Mixon aggravated menacing incident. It occurred in Cincinnati on January one,

514
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: that's the day before the Bengals defeated the Bills in

515
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: the a f C Divisional round. Mixing allegedly pointed a

516
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: firearm and a woman. Okay, well that's new information that

517
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: I had this morning, Um saying you should be popped

518
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: in the face. I should shoot you. The police can't

519
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: get me, Um. Mixings agent says, charges will be dropped today.

520
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: I need details on this. I want to know details.

521
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: I want to know how did you get to this point? Um?

522
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: What what did the woman do that led to him

523
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: doing that? What did he feel threatened? I need details.

524
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: You can't drop charges without us knowing the details. So

525
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: and and honestly, he shouldn't be condemned until you know

526
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: the details either. And that's we gotta have. The information

527
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: needs to be out in terms of what led to it. Um.

528
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: But there's enough there. And he's coming off one of

529
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: his worst seasons in in a while, only eight hundred

530
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: yards rushing. And they're saying, you know, could he be

531
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: who could he be a cap cut to free up

532
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: some more money. Well he might have been that anyway,

533
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: So this would only enhance that potentially. UM. I do

534
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: think it's interesting that had happened on the twenty one,

535
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: the day before the game against the Bills, he had

536
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: like a hundred and thirty some yards against the PIP

537
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: was vital in running out the close. It took this

538
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: long for this to come to fruition to where we're

539
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: just finding out about it this morning and last night.

540
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: Is a little strange considering it's been there that long,

541
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: chief said coach Andy Read telling reporters yesterday. McCole Hardman

542
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: is unlikely to play in Super Bowl fifty seven, is

543
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: optimistic that Juju will play. Darius Tony will be able

544
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: to play as well. They are really banged up at

545
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: receiver obviously. UM, but again it's reading, it's Mahomes. The

546
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: big key is Kim Mahomes. What's his health like with

547
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: two weeks off, so we'll we'll get a better feel

548
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: about that for next next week. We've seen some injury reports,

549
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: but nothing's really You don't start watching things until next week. No,

550
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: not at all. Dolphins doing a three year deal Vic

551
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: Fangio that will pay the new defensive coordinate more than

552
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: four and a half million per year. That's why he

553
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: worked out well, just I was just thinking when I

554
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: when I'm as I'm reading these numbers, like you used

555
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: to not get paid like that to be a coordinator

556
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Like that's like head coach money. Four

557
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 1: and a half million a year. Um, that is a

558
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: big digit. I'm that feels new that that you would

559
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: have that type of money on a court. That's I

560
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: would think even the high end coordinators might be at

561
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: a million one point five. No, that's head coach money. Um.

562
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: But we saw Sean Payton got upwards of twenty million

563
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: dollars a year in Denver, So there's there's that part

564
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: of it as well. Um More around the league, Former

565
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: Panthers interim coach Steve Wilkes of course was here. We'll

566
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: interview on Monday for the forty niners vacated defensive coordinator job.

567
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: Tomko Ryan's of course was previously there. He is now

568
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Houston Texans. That per the

569
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Speaker 1: NFL Networks, Ian rappafort our guy former Brown's offensive coordinator

570
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: Todd Monkin getting a second interview with the Ravens for

571
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: their O C position. So it seems like he wants

572
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Speaker 1: out of college, which I understand given the n i L,

573
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Speaker 1: the recruiting everything else. Yeah, I would assume that you'd

574
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: want to go back to the NFL. Yeah, he's he

575
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: may have to take a pay cut to do so.

576
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: Um but he's made good money at Georgia for the

577
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Highest he's the highest paid coordinator

578
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in college football last year and upwards of

579
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: two million. So he's done that for a couple of

580
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: years and probably just exhausted by this recruiting and n

581
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Speaker 1: I L and free transfer. And I mean, when you're

582
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator placed like Georgia, you've got a lot

583
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: of a lot of babies to kiss and hands to shake.

584
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: So um my, Hench, she's probably just wants to get

585
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: back to to be in a ball coach a little bit. Absolutely,

586
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: so he did. He was in Tampa for an interview

587
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: and now with the Ravens for an interview. He would

588
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: be an incredible That would be a drastic turn for

589
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: the Ravens with what he wants to do based on

590
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: what they've been doing. So, whether that's with Lamar or

591
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: someone else, what he wants to do offensively is not

592
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: what they've done. No, not what Monkin is ever done,

593
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, and vice versa. Like the Ravens, it wouldn't

594
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: fit with the Ravens have ever done with Lamar And

595
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: and Monkin would not. What he does wouldn't fit with

596
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: what they've ever done. The Broncos are interviewing Brian Floras,

597
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: a linebacker and senior assistant with the Steelers linebacker coach,

598
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: rather for their DC position. That would seem like a

599
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: no brainer. Flores and Peyton, Yeah, I'm Peyton. I'm definitely

600
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: I want the best possible staff. And I think everybody

601
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: else now is scrambling because they know Peyton's going after

602
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: big time player coaches. Yeah. Yeah, it's a big bet

603
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: there for them. We will do an offseason position breakdown

604
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: coming up next. We will hit on the defensive tackles

605
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: Z with his breakdown of the position. A p will

606
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Speaker 1: join as well for his That's all coming up next

607
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611
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Speaker 1: got in and Chip The Brons defenders up front. They

612
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: are playing beach volleyball right now with Madfield and they

613
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: are winning on spikes. Perry on Winfrey, it looked like

614
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: got his hand up on that one. Jackson and the

615
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Speaker 1: shotgun from his own eighteen third down seventeen, getting uplitz again.

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Speaker 1: Here comes the bronze and they're gonna get him back

617
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: at the five yard line. It's blowing in his Taman Bryant,

618
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: he got in there. Jorge Elliott was in there too.

619
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Speaker 1: And how about that for an opening salvo by the

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Speaker 1: bronze teeth. That's a loss of thirteen borrow back to

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Speaker 1: pass and he's going down. They got him again. Tamen

622
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Speaker 1: Brian is in there. Down went borrow back inside his

623
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Speaker 1: twenty five. You know TV is exposed to that, you

624
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean? If anything, just learning from him

625
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: is just you all gotta put off each other. You know,

626
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: we all brothers at the end of the day, and

627
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: you know we really gotta buy into that so that

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Speaker 1: you know they shows up on the food. He's back

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Speaker 1: in the pocket. He's gonna get headed. Do come. I

630
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: got him. Jorge Elliott got him all the way back

631
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Speaker 1: at the fifteen yard line. Boy, it is he one

632
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: happy defender, isn't he brady taking the step to pass.

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Speaker 1: He's looking a lot of time, a lot of time.

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00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: He loads up and got sacked. He got knocked down.

635
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: Shore Nelly had got up finally and knocked him down.

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Speaker 1: He had a ton of time and he drops her

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Speaker 1: for the first sack of the afternoon. Back at the sixty.

638
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: Let's coming up the gun. Here they come after Burrow

639
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: and he got hit. Bullings out, bullers loose, hang on,

640
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: clem the ball, Tommy togy I he comes out of

641
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: the pile with the ball. Just gaining closeness with with

642
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: our position group. I think our d line group we

643
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: got real close this year. Uh, just getting to know

644
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: eats everyone in that room and even on position coach,

645
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: and just having fun with it each and every day.

646
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: Like we put in the work and but then we

647
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: can also have fun. First down, drops to throw, looks

648
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: getting pressure flushed. Right here they come after him at

649
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: his feet, he's going down. They got him back of

650
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: the fifteen yard line. Tommy Toki toky how about that? Alright?

651
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: Great stuff there and now with the breakdown. Here's doctor

652
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: z all right, thanks bo. Yeah, this is the position

653
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: of I would say, the biggest need on the Browns

654
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: defense going into the off season in twenty twenty three.

655
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: It was a position that was frankly a little bit

656
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: of a liability for the Browns did not get a

657
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: ton out of it in terms of pass rush. And

658
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: we know how much the Browns struggled to stop the run,

659
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: and so part of that was that they were light

660
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: in the middle of the defense. There was just not

661
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: a lot of tremendous size. You look at some of

662
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: the teams around the league and they would have guys

663
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: who weighed three twenty three thirty. Take the Washington Commanders

664
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: with Jonathan Allen and Rohn Pain and will get to

665
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: paint in a little bit, but you had significant size.

666
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: The Browns kind of maxed out there. You know, Tavin

667
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: people listed at three D who probably were playing around

668
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: two eighty and the Browns got pushed around in the middle.

669
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: And not only that, they did not really generate a

670
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: ton of pass rush from the interior as well. And

671
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: so what it added up to was a room that

672
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: the Browns have made investments in. You know, they've used

673
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: draft picks and in each of the last two drafts

674
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: there each of the last three drafts. I'm sorry in

675
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: that room, but it just hasn't manifested in ending that

676
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: diamond in the rough yet that can be a stud

677
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: for you. And so it's kind of been piecemeal. You

678
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: go back, you know, to the season, and on the

679
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: interior of that defensive line you were led by Sheldon

680
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Richardson and Larry Ogan, Jobi Well. You go to the season,

681
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: it was Malik Jackson and Malik McDowell. Last year Jordan

682
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: Elliott and Tavin Bryant. So you have not had one

683
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: starter carry over from the previous season to the following

684
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: in this defensive tackle room. And I think that lack

685
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: of continuity, that lack of star power has really hindered

686
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: what the Browns have been able to do on the

687
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: interior of their defensive line. And it's something that I

688
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: think needs to be addressed, uh and needs to be

689
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: addressed this offseason, and the Browns have multiple ways to

690
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: do that. We'll get to that in a second. Let's

691
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: just start with who is going to be back for

692
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: the Browns in this room and then what questions there

693
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: are for the Browns in this room. As I mentioned,

694
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: the starters were Jordan Elliott and Tavian Bryant Elliott was

695
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: a Brown's third round pick in the draft. This with

696
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: your career highs across the board because this was the

697
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: most that he had ever played. He gave you thirty

698
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: six tackles, five tackles for a loss, two sacks that

699
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: was a career high, the first one coming against Atlanta.

700
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: He will be entering the final year of his rookie contract.

701
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: Next to him was Taven Bryan, the former first rounder

702
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: who was brought in from Jacksonville. And I think the

703
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: Browns would welcome Taven Brian back. Taven Bryant gave you

704
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 1: three sacks this season. He was second on the team

705
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: in sacks, second on the team and pressures generated um.

706
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: But again, three sacks not really enough. Now, could he

707
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: be part of a rotation? Could it be more of

708
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: a situational pass rusher for you? Sure? But Taven Bryan's

709
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent. We'll see what the Browns decide

710
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: to do their u at with the decision on him.

711
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: So those were your starters. Who were the backups for you?

712
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: While it was perry On Winfrey, your fourth round pick

713
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: in this year's draft, just finished his rookie season. He

714
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: had a half a sack. He did lose two sacks

715
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: over the second half of the season due to penalty

716
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: away from the ball ones that really didn't even affect

717
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: the play, So he flashed. But perry On Winfrey was

718
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick for a reason. You know, with

719
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: the Senior Bulls going on right now down in Mobile, Alabama,

720
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: he was the m v P of that game. The

721
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: reason he went in the fourth round where there were

722
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: some concerns about his ability to maximize his talent, because

723
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: there were questions about his ability to truly be a professional,

724
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: and he battled that in his rookie season, and he

725
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: would be the first to tell you that he's got

726
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: room to improve there and if he can, he's got

727
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: the clay, he's got the talent, he's got the raw

728
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: ability to be a starter in this league and be

729
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: an impact player for the Browns on the defensive line.

730
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: But at this point, because of those kind of professional concerns,

731
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: not something that you could go in and say, all right,

732
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: guaranteed he's gonna take a leap, Guaranteed he's gonna maximize

733
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: his potential. So here we are, through three guys. We

734
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: don't have any definitive answers. We don't have any definitive starters.

735
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: Tommy Togi I the fourth round pick, in twelve games

736
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: half a sack that came in Week one. He was

737
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: an active the majority of basically the end of the year.

738
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: I think he was an active five out of the

739
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: last six games. He's too small and I don't know

740
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: if he can bulk up enough to the point where

741
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: he can be an impact player for this team. Now,

742
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: there were some flashes at times, but for the most part,

743
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: it was it was inconsistent for Tommy Togia, And he

744
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 1: was a guy that you know, coming out of Ohio State,

745
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: you thought had a chance to really develop after being

746
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick, and it just it really hasn't

747
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: manifested itself. You know, he played in Week eleven, he

748
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: was inactive weeks twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and week seventeen.

749
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: UH he played one snap in Week sixteen, that cold

750
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: game against the Saints, and then he had sixteen snaps

751
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: in the final UH finale against the Steelers. But he

752
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: has not given you any indication that he can be

753
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: a starter for you. So you've got to get better,

754
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: and really your question can you be a role player?

755
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: You picked up Ben still as the season went on,

756
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: who is an undrafted free agent, spent some time with Miami.

757
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: He's an exclusive for rights free agent, but certainly it

758
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: didn't feel like you saw something where he flashed so

759
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: much you said, oh, he can be a starter, but

760
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: good guy to having the program. Same with Roderick Perry,

761
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: who was an underrafted free agent that saw some action

762
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: for the Browns as well last year. So he here

763
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: we are. I think it's safe to say we could

764
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: have two new starters in in two thousand and twenty three,

765
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: and now one of them could be Perry on Winfrey.

766
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: Now could be Jordan Elliott as well, which would be

767
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: some continuity at the position for the first time in

768
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: a long time. I just don't know, but this is

769
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: a position that absolutely needs to be addressed. You got

770
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: three sacks from Brian, You've got the two sacks from

771
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: Jordan Elliott. That's five. You got a half a sack

772
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: each from togy I in Winfrey, so you've got six

773
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: total sacks from your defensive tackle room on a season

774
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: that's not good enough. Just to put that in in

775
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: in context. One of the guys that I two of

776
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: the guys that are at the top of the list right,

777
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: one would be Javon Hargrave with the Eagles. He had

778
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: eleven sacks this season. The other Droon Payne. Now he's

779
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: kind of the darling. He would be the one you want,

780
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: six three three and twenty pounds, only twenty six years old,

781
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: coming off of a career year eleven and a half sacks.

782
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: He had about twenty tackles for loss. You know, we

783
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: don't have people who look like that or who have

784
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: produced like that. Again, either one of those guys almost

785
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: would have doubled up the sack total of our entire

786
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: defensive tackle room. So change has have to be made.

787
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: This is priority one on defense. We talked about defensive

788
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: end yesterday. That's obviously an important position to address, But

789
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, I think is number one, and I think

790
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: you can do it in a number of ways. Obviously,

791
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: free agency in the draft, those are your levers to

792
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: try to acquire talent. I could see the Browns going

793
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: for a big splash on a drawn pain if they

794
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: can make that happen. I'd be surprised if Washington lets

795
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: him go. By the way. Feels like a good franchise candidate.

796
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: But if he were to come available, that's a big splash,

797
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: that's a big investment. That's a superstar in the middle.

798
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: Now with him, you could either draft or you could

799
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: sign another what I would call a cheaper free agent

800
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: who's just a big guy, like a three pounder, a

801
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: two down player, not a pass rusher, but a space eater.

802
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: Because when you have small linebackers like the Browns do

803
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: with a Jeremiah Woosu Cormo, a walk Jacob Phillips, guys

804
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: who are not your big thumpers like a Reggie Raglan

805
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: who we saw at the end of the year and

806
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: you know it could be back with the Browns. You

807
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: need to get occupied blockers so that they're free to

808
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: run to the ball. And that was the biggest problem

809
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: with the Browns run defense last year is that your

810
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: defensive tackles are getting blown off the ball, they're getting

811
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: blown back. Not only that, linemen were able to get

812
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,959
Speaker 1: to the second level and they were able to handle

813
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: the Jeremiah Wsukormo and a Phillips who are you know

814
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: in the range, So that to me is a very

815
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: important thing to address. And so I mentioned free agency

816
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: pain Hardraave. Those are the home runs you know you

817
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: could go in the draft and Dane Brugler at the Athletic.

818
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: His most recent two round knock draft, he has the

819
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: Browns taken Mazzi Smith, a defensive tackle out of Michigan.

820
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: He says he would be the best defensive tackle on

821
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: the team. So if you were to draft early, because

822
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: we've drafted third round, fourth round, fourth round, we just

823
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: haven't produced a star yet. Potential and Elliott I think

824
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: real potential and win free if we can get everything

825
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: on a professional level. But maybe you make that investment.

826
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: That's your first pick. There, you bring in one more

827
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: veteran who's a big space eater, and away you go

828
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: and hope that Elliott and Winfrey can continue to develop.

829
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: It's a position of big need though, but that's the

830
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: way that you have to look at it. You have

831
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: to apply multiple I think assets to it. I think

832
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: you need multiple body types. You need out run un stuffer,

833
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: you need somebody who can help you pressure the quarterback.

834
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: You can do that, As I said, draft or free agency.

835
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: They're the big ticket items though. Dron Payne, you know

836
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: that is a big big ticket guy. Even a Draymond

837
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: Jones in Denver, which would be the next one down

838
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: but he's a little smaller. He would give you if

839
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: you signed a Draymond Jones who had six and a

840
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: half sacks last year. He's a guy that you would

841
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: bring in as a pass rusher, and then you'd still

842
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: need to bring in either the draft or free agency,

843
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: a big guy, a three twenty a monster. That's what

844
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: the Browns need of the middle is defensive line. So

845
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: a lot of needs here. Andrew Berry, he's gonna have

846
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: to go shopping. He's gonna have to go shopping. And

847
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: I was told that, you know, around the league, sometimes

848
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: when they're not happy with the players play on tape,

849
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: they bring him into the room. The coaches, look, this

850
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: is what you're doing. I'm gonna have to go shopping.

851
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: The Browns have to go shopping at defensive tackle. And

852
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: so that's the way that you can do it. Draft,

853
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: free agency, probably a combo both. But it's ultimately not

854
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: just one skill set one not one body type. You

855
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: need two skill sets. You need beef, you need big,

856
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: they need eat up double teams. But you also need

857
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: somebody can get to the quarterback because right now we

858
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: don't have that on the interior. And that's why you

859
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: run into a situation where Myles Garrett has sixteen of

860
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: our thirty four sacks, Taven Bryan had three, But then

861
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: the next two guys Dion Jones two and a half,

862
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips at two. Those are off ball linebackers who

863
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: are getting sets from Ei there blitzing and are spying

864
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: and then chasing down quarterbacks. Not as a part of

865
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: our natural pass rush. We need to be able to

866
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: get home with four keep seven in coverage. That's how

867
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: you succeed. That's what the Philadelphia Eagles are doing. You know,

868
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: they had four guys on their team with double digit

869
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: sacks first time in history. Two of them were on

870
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: the interior, Fletcher Cox and Hardgrave. The Browns need somebody

871
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: on the interior that can be a real disruptor, and

872
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: hopefully they're able to find that this offseason. Pain would

873
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: be ready made. You'd come right in, you'd play him.

874
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: He would be a superstar for you right out of

875
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: the gates. But if not, you're gonna have to do

876
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: a combination where you're taking pieces of people's skill sets

877
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: to turn them into one great player, one guy who

878
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: can kind of really hold it down for you on

879
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: early downs, and then in obvious passing situations, somebody who

880
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: can get after the quarterback. So that's a look at

881
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle room for the Cleveland Browns. It is

882
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: one that needs to be overhauled. It has been overhauled.

883
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: It feels like every single year under Andrew Berry as

884
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: well lined out for you. Different starting combinations in twenty

885
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: one and twenty two, likely a different starting combination in

886
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: twenty three as well. What an effort out of z

887
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: on that as we bring in staff, right Anthony Poisel

888
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: to join us in the program. A p this is

889
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, quite frankly, when you look at this, I

890
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: mean these are draft picks, right, I mean it's boom

891
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: boom boom. These are Elliott, togy I, Winfrey. These all

892
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: needed to be hits, or one of them needed to

893
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: be hits. Winfrey feels like maybe he still could be,

894
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: but on Elliott and togy I, it does feel like

895
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: the patients is starting to wane. And I do think

896
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: you can look at this and say Andrew Berries did

897
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: a lot of great things when it comes to draft

898
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: drafting and putting this roster together, this has been the

899
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: one thing where you needed to have some more hits.

900
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: You don't have a sure thing anywhere on this roster.

901
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: I don't think we have apes mic working here we go,

902
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: but this is right exactly. Yeah, No, this was the

903
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: year where you really needed to see somebody like Jordan

904
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: Elliott and even Tommy told you even though Elliot's a

905
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: third year, this was told you second year. Uh none

906
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: of those guys stepped up like the way that you

907
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: would have thought they would have going into their second

908
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: or third seasons. And you know you mentioned perry On

909
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: Um he's the one guy that I think, you know,

910
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: you still can get a year or two out of

911
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: him and see what see what he's able to bring.

912
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is the position that uh Abe's probably

913
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: missed the most on since he's since he's gotten into

914
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: this building, and it's one that I think is going

915
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: to be the focus point of the defense this offseason.

916
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: And and we're probably going to see a lot of

917
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: new players in that room. Um, you know, I think

918
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: maybe perry on is is is a guy that they're

919
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: gonna make sure that they have an opportunity to give

920
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: him an extra role next year or a bigger role

921
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: next year if he's able to take it. But um, yeah,

922
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of changes at this and

923
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: and it starts with the guys that Jim Schwartz is

924
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: ultimately going to think are going to be able to

925
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: fit his schemes and do what he wants to do

926
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: with this defense. I kind of think in a way,

927
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: Perryon is the only one that you think could turn

928
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,959
Speaker 1: into something that could be counted on. I think we've

929
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of Jordan Elliott, We've seen a

930
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: lot of Tommy Toby. I think we know what they

931
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: are and what they are not. Winfrey is the one

932
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: that you think, maybe there's a little more to it,

933
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: but he's got to grow up to He's gotta be

934
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: able to handle it exactly. The big thing with perry

935
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: On this year, unfortunately, was just the disciplinary issues that

936
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: popped up over the course of the season, and um,

937
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: if if he's able to overcome those in year two,

938
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, the coaching staff does feel very good about

939
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: what he is able to do. You know. I think

940
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: Chris Kevin said it a few weeks back in his

941
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: last his last media session for the regular season was um,

942
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: you know, he was very raw talent. He showed that

943
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma he had the tools to be able to

944
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: to move offensive lineman. But um, ultimately, in the system

945
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: that they had here, they needed more than just raw

946
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: tools right then, and that's obviously the course across the NFL.

947
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: But um, he needed more than just technique. It was

948
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: it was making sure his footwork was where it needed

949
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: to be. He was filling his gaps. It wasn't just

950
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: simply trying to a shove forward a center or a card.

951
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: It was trying to make sure you were staying gap sound.

952
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: And in your statement, that's something that perion that Uh,

953
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: he has the most area to work on on the field. Um,

954
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: and he'll have a chance to do that if he's

955
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: also able to just you know, play, be be cleaner

956
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: of your head and not avoid the disciplining issues. Give

957
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: you answer the question, how can we expect the defensive

958
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: tackles to look under Jim Schwartz next season? Different? Different,

959
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: That's what we can I think that's all you can

960
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: really say. They won't. They won't look like these guys. No,

961
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: And I think he values that position a lot more

962
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: every stop he's been at the dudes, ye d tackle. Now,

963
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: the bad news is those dudes don't grow on trees. Now,

964
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: if you don't have a first round pick. You're not

965
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: gonna get one likely in the drafts. You're gonna get

966
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: lucky in the draft, you know, to the ultra regressive

967
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: in free agency. As Z pointed out, Um, this isn't

968
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: this is a complete overhaul. I mean I think you

969
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: need you really need two dudes coming in. Yeah, to

970
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: just the least, you gotta get at least one of

971
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: the let alone d end. I mean, you need a

972
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: dude at d end and you need one real dude

973
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: at d tackle and then another one that you think

974
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: can turn into one. And maybe that's perryon, but I

975
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: think you need two dudes on the defensive line. We

976
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: did d NS two days ago on the program. You

977
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: need one there. It was just Miles last year. I mean,

978
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: you look at the sack numbers that you need because

979
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: you better have someone to back up in the event

980
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: that someone gets hurt. That that also became a problem

981
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: this year first. And I gotta be honest, I don't

982
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do at defensive end because you've

983
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: got enough of the salary cap space that you have

984
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: to spend on defensive tackle. Um, but I will say

985
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: there are going to be a lot of good free

986
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: agent d T s, and I know he was covering

987
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: a lot of them. But there are two guys that

988
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: that you know, we're played with Schwartz before Fletcher, Cox

989
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: and Hargrave are gonna be playing in the Super Bowl

990
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: next week. I think those two guys that when you

991
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: look at the list of d ts, those those are

992
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: gonna pop off the page instantly because they're familiar with

993
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: Schwartz and and you know what he wants out of

994
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: his defensive line. And obviously Cox he's he's at the

995
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: end of his career. I think he's this will be

996
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: his thirty three age thirty three season next year. Um,

997
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: but you still got it to playing at a really

998
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: high level this year, and I think would be interested

999
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: for the front office here. You need a long term though.

1000
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: They've been searching for that years, both as a defensive

1001
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: end ups at Miles and and then on the defensive

1002
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: front at defensive tackle. We just have not hit on those. Well,

1003
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, you had one in ogen job, but the

1004
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: numbers just didn't match up from a salary standpoint. From

1005
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: a long way from that, I mean, you know, Emmanuel

1006
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: log was a guy who was here who's had a

1007
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: nice run here as well. So there's you know, we

1008
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 1: got it. We've looked for that for a long time

1009
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: and they do need to lock that up. Do you

1010
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: think this is the biggest priority for the Browns this offseason? Yeah? Absolutely.

1011
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: I Mean the big uh concern all last season was

1012
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: just the run defense, and that was because it just

1013
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: wasn't the job just wasn't getting done at defensive tackle.

1014
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: And if you're going to find a way to vastly

1015
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: improve the rash as a whole, obviously, but then the defense,

1016
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: that's the area that you need to adjust the most

1017
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 1: of this offseason. And it's got to be about finding

1018
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: a way to be better on run defense and finding

1019
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: more ways to get to the quarterback. And I mean

1020
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't take a genius to look at

1021
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: this Austrin find out that means getting better defensive tackles.

1022
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: I think it's d tackle and they think it's speed receiver.

1023
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: I think those two things are one in one A.

1024
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: You can rank them however you rank them. Both need

1025
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: to be addressed in a in a very very big way. Um.

1026
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: Last one on this ap is it easier to improve

1027
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: this position through free agency or the draft? Yeah, I mean,

1028
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: just like we were saying, definitely free agency, you don't

1029
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: have a first round pick, maybe you still take a

1030
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: shot at a guy with your second or third round pick,

1031
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 1: but um, you got there's there's good guys hitting free agency,

1032
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: this Hraft defensive tackle, and you've got to be aggressive

1033
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: in getting them. Um. I think this front office fortunately

1034
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: last few years, has been aggressive in attacking the top

1035
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: positional needs in free agency and the draft, and so

1036
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: I think they will go pretty hard at some of

1037
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: these top name d T s, obviously Fletcher Cox, Von Hargrave,

1038
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: John Pain, like he also suggested a minute ago, Um,

1039
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: there's good guys that are they're gonna be able to sign,

1040
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: and I think they'll be able to have the cap

1041
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: space to make a run at at at most, if

1042
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: not all of them. Um, And they've they've got to

1043
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: do it. They've got to find a way to get

1044
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: one of them if they really want to give Schwartz

1045
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: the kind of pieces he's used to having in his defenses.

1046
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: If you want to contend in the a f C,

1047
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: you have to. It's just that simple, Like you just

1048
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: there's no other way. You can't you can't do it

1049
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: another way. So that's it's gonna be a very very

1050
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: big offseason for that ap good stuff. But he absolutely

1051
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: I have a great week, and thank you for joining

1052
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: us here in studio. Coming up at the top of

1053
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: the hour, we'll be joined by Luke Easterly. He covers

1054
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1055
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,200
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1056
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,360
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Speaker 1: we are joined by the editor of the Draft Wire,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks Wire USA Today media group member Luke Easterling

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00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: joining us, who had a really interesting tweet this morning

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Speaker 1: in terms of the Bucks plans for this offseason. But

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Speaker 1: before we get to that, Luke, and thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for the time. UH take us through from your

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Speaker 1: vantage point the last week with Brady. Um, was this

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Speaker 1: the conclusion that you thought was coming or did you

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Speaker 1: think there was a chance that he would be back.

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Speaker 1: You know, I thought it was pretty fifty fee. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think that what you saw was somebody who obviously

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00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: had a lot of personal reasons um to to walk

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00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: away from the game. Um. But but knew he could

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Speaker 1: still play at a high level. UM. And and I

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00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: think it was either the Bucks or or retirement. I

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00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: think all the other rumors and the other places and

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00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: the other conversations, um, we're really just speculation. And I

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00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, as as a

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00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: lot of us here in the area and who have

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00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: been in that building kind of predicted that it was

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Speaker 1: either going to be another season with the Bucks or

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00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: that he was going to walk away for good this time.

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00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: And that's what we got. What was this What was

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00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: this ride like with him down there? I mean it's

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00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: it was pretty special. Um. And again, you know I

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00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: covered them as a job now, but I grew up

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00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: in this area. I was literally born right next door

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Speaker 1: to the stadium, the hospital that's right there, so you know,

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00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: growing up a cream sickle kid and rootings for some

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00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: really bad Bucks teams for a long long time. UM.

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Speaker 1: The fact that he just signed with the Bucks at

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00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 1: all in was was a huge moment for this fan

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00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: base and and the fact that he chose to come

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00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay and chose that that team to say, Hey,

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00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: that's where I can go and win a championship. And

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Speaker 1: that's what he did. So you know this again, the

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00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: most successful two year run in franchise history and twenty

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00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: one seasons, UM, three straight playoff trips, too, straight NFC

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Speaker 1: South titles and and I mean he's either one, two

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00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: or three in every passing category in Bucks history now

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00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: after three seasons. Yeah, yeah, it's either him, Benny set

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00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: Siverti or Jameis Winston in every category one, two or three.

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Speaker 1: So it didn't take long for him to uh to

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Speaker 1: leave in a lasting impression and a lasting legacy on

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Speaker 1: this team, in this fan base, in the community. UM,

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00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: just a fantastic um, the fantastic run. Again. The fans

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00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: here will never forget it. They'll be forever grateful. I

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00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: know I am, both from a fan standpoint and obviously

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00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: gave me a lot of content to write over the

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00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: last three years, uh to cover a super Bowl and

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00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: and just a truly magical run and something that I

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00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: think the fans here will always appreciate and I hope

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Speaker 1: he does too, one of those things that upon him

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Speaker 1: choosing Tampa Bay. I don't know if all of us

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00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: who don't cover them on a daily basis were fully

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00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: aware of how good the roster was, right, um, but

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00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: Brady was and and that was a big part of it.

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00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean, living in Tampa is great, um, but that

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Speaker 1: roster is a big part of it. And much of

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00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: that roster remains. They have issues like everybody does. But

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Speaker 1: you were pretty emphatic, uh this morning on Twitter. Not

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Speaker 1: trading Mike Evans, not trading Godwin, not trading Va Bay.

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Speaker 1: They're not trading their core veteran players. They're not taking

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Speaker 1: three So luke if they're not going to do those things,

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Speaker 1: because I will be candid with you, my thinking was

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Speaker 1: that they would, that you would go that route with

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Speaker 1: it and try to rebuild through the draft. What will

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Speaker 1: the plan be in Tampa at quarterback? How will they

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00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: approach this well? And again, you know my tweet was

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Speaker 1: not necessarily you know, this is what they should do,

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Speaker 1: because I think obviously, you know, outside looking in, you

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00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: can look at a lot of the reasons why this

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00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: is a perfect opportunity for them to say, hey, it

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00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: was a great run and we had a lot of

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00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: fun um. But now you know, we're away over the

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00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: salary cap. We got some aging veterans, we've got a

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00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: lot of money, we can move around. Maybe now it's

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00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: the time to kind of, you know, strip it all

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Speaker 1: down and start over. And it's not that I don't

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00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: see those dots being connected, and it's not like I

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00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: don't see that being making sense. This is more from

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Speaker 1: what I understand the people that I talked to in

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00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: that building and the the idea of the strategy that

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00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: I think they're going to go for. I think they

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00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: are not going to attempt a rebuild. Whether or not

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00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: a rebuild has forced upon them remains to be seen. Again,

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00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: a lot of fans have responded in kind to be like, hey,

1149
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: they won't have to try to take it will happen naturally.

1150
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: And again, if that happens, that's one thing. But it's

1151
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: gonna happen with Mike Evans on the team. It's gonna

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00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: happen with Chris Godwin and Vida Ba and Ryan Jensen

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00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: and Antoine Winfield and Tristan worse Uh, you know, and

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00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: all these other players that are key to their success.

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00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: They're still gonna be there this year. This is not

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00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: going to be a fire sale. And again you can

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00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: argue about whether or not they should have one. I'm

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00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: just telling you from it, I know it's not gonna

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00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: be that way, at least this offseason. That is not

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Speaker 1: the plan. I think their plan is to go forward

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Speaker 1: and do the best they can at quarterback, and I

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00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: don't know what that looks like. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's you know, hey, we think we have enough talent,

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Speaker 1: maybe we bring in a really good offensive coordinator, which

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00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: again they still don't have it at the moment. They

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00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: don't have an offensive coordinator right now after firing Bron

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00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: left woots and a lot of that offensive staff, so

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00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: that will have a lot to do with it. But

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Speaker 1: whether that's Kyle Trash, whether that's Derek Carr, whether that's

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield or Jimmy Garoppolo or you know, Jacoby Brissette,

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00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: or whether they want to trade up in this draft

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Speaker 1: and get one of those type quarterbacks, that part remains

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00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: to be seen. But I feel very strongly, based on

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Speaker 1: the conversations that I've had, that this is not a

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00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: fire sale. They are not going to be entertaining, which again,

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Speaker 1: what I tweeted was really in response to a lot

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Speaker 1: of you know, everybody out there who needs a receiver

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00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: wants Mike Kevin's and they want Christiefer And I completely

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00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: understand why, right So you know, it's not that I

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00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: don't understand, but I'm you know, just hoping to put

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00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: that out there for those fans, and they understand that

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00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: from the Buck's perspective, that's just not a realistic possibility

1183
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: right now, that not that's not the plan. Look, you

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00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: mentioned the cap issues, Um, who are some of the

1185
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: cap casualties that will be hard for them to do anything?

1186
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: But part with who are guys who won't be there

1187
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: next year? Would be very hard for at least for

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00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: them to be back next year. So you know, you

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00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: start with the free agents, right because they're going basically

1190
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: right now, they are looking at about fifty five million

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00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: over the cap. Now, that was before Tom Brady's retirement.

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Speaker 1: And the reason that Tom Brady's retirement is still vital

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00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: to this is because if Tom had gone to play

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00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: for anyone other than Tampa Bay this year, they would

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Speaker 1: have had to eat a thirty five million dollar dead

1196
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: cap hit this year altogether right now, And so what

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Speaker 1: what Brady's retirement does is it will allow them if

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Speaker 1: they want to do this, which I assume they will, Basically,

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Speaker 1: they would sign him to a short extension just for

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00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: the sake of being able to move some money around

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00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: and and drop his cap number. Basically, they would carry

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00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: in eleven million dollar cap charge to June one, then

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00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: they would process his retire meant after the fact, and

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Speaker 1: it would basically allow them to take that thirty five

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00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: million dollar dead cap hit and split it with eleven

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Speaker 1: of it this year and the other twenty four in

1207
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: twenty So the reason that's huge just because obviously that

1208
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: saves them twenty four of that fifty five million dollars

1209
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: gets them to about thirty million over and is really

1210
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: a big help. And and a lot of fans would

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00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: be like, well, why push the dead money? Why not

1212
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: eat it all this year and hopefully be better next year. Well,

1213
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: next year, the salary kepts gonna go up a lot again,

1214
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: which it always does, and next year the Bucks have

1215
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: far fewer free agents to re sign next season as well,

1216
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: so it'll be easier for them to absorb that they

1217
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: need that extra money right now to just get under

1218
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: the cap at all. And and again to go back

1219
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: to the other free agents. Brady was gonna be a

1220
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: free agent, but Lavonte David is a free agent. Jamal Dean,

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Speaker 1: they're they're one of their best quarterbacks is the free agent.

1222
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: Sean Murphy, Bunting, Anthony Nelson. A lot of key players

1223
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: on that too deep are going to be free agents.

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00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be able to keep very many of them,

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00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: even if they get under the cap a little bit. So, um,

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Speaker 1: Jamal Dean is the one guy I'm pretty confident won't

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Speaker 1: be back, just because I think he will. He deserves

1228
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: and will get a lot of money on the open market.

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Speaker 1: And the Bucks just paid forty five million over three

1230
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: years for for Carlton Davis last offseason. You know some

1231
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: team is gonna give Jamal d In fifty million dollars

1232
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: a year and the Bucks just are not going to

1233
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: be able to match that. There's no way. So he's one.

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Speaker 1: In terms of guys that are already into contract. The

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Speaker 1: two that I will look at that could be big

1236
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: names that people will know. Donovan Smith, the left tackle.

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Speaker 1: They'd really well doing the Super Bowl run really well,

1238
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: but got injured in Week one this year. I know

1239
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: he was dealing with some off field things, um, some

1240
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: undisclosed things that he had mentioned earlier in the season.

1241
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: Had it just had a rough year and played very poorly,

1242
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: But I know he was dealing with a lot. I

1243
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: think his cap number is somewhere near seventeen or eighteen

1244
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: million this year. So over a left tackle who really

1245
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: underperformed last year. I know the Bucks have a lot

1246
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: of respects for him. I know it's hard to find

1247
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: a left tackle with as much experience as he has,

1248
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: but that's a lot of money. And if they think

1249
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: they can improve and do it cheaper somewhere else, uh,

1250
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: that's definitely something they're gonna have to look at. And

1251
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette is the other guy, you know. They they

1252
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: they drafted Rashad White in the third round last year.

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01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: He really, I mean, looks like the better running back

1254
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: for most of the season this year. Lenny was already

1255
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: starting to get a little bit banged up over the

1256
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: last couple of years, so I think they could save

1257
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of money there. Cameron brad the tight end,

1258
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: is another veteran guy who's probably making more money than

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01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: the Bucks need him for. I think he could be

1260
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: a Capcasulty as well, So definitely three familiar faces there

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01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: that the Bucks can be without Luke, as you know.

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing too, is is you'd go big picture

1263
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: and you look at that division. I mean the Bucks

1264
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: wanted with an under five record this year. Um, I

1265
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: look around it. I don't see quarterbacks really in any

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01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: of them that you're in love with. I don't know

1267
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: how the Falcons feel about Ritter Um. It's an incredibly

1268
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: winnable division and there are some quarterbacks names. How much

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Speaker 1: does that factor into this for the Bucks where it's like, hey, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, and by the way, the same could apply

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Speaker 1: to the NFC because who knows what happens with Rogers

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Speaker 1: Um the stat Stafford's coming off of injury. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are the Eagles, but beyond that, the NFC

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01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 1: is pretty wide open. How much does that factor into

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01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: the thinking here, not just for the Bucks but for

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Speaker 1: everybody in the South where it feels like he who

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Speaker 1: gets the quarterback can win it. Yeah, I think it's

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01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: a big factor. And I really do think that in

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Speaker 1: terms of how the Bucks look at this in particular,

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01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, listen, why why do we have

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01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: to blow it up? Even if in any other circumstances.

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Speaker 1: You know, if we were in a different division and

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01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: it was obviously such an uphill climb to make the

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01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: playoffs at all, maybe they would feel differently about it.

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01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: But I think you're right. I think they look around

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01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: this division and they think it's not that the other

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01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: teams aren't gonna get better this offseason. Obviously everybody hopes

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01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: they will. But can you really look at any of

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Speaker 1: those other three teams and think they will be favored

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Speaker 1: over the Bucks next year, regardless of who's a quarterback

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Speaker 1: because of the talent they have in other places. I

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Speaker 1: really don't think so, you know, So I again, I

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01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: think I think that's a big factor. I think they

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01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: do look at it and say, listen, if we can

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01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: get a quarterbacks who's just good enough, this is again

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01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: probably the most winnable division in the NFL, as sure

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Speaker 1: as heck was this year. Um, So I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of it. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: I think it really wouldn't take a whole lot at

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01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: that position. And again, a lot of this comes down

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01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: to the scheme and because as a lot of the

1302
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: to the offenses problems this year were because they had

1303
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: a very outdated scheme than the play calling was not helpful,

1304
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: the injuries that they had on the offensive line, that

1305
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: the coaching on that side of the ball did not

1306
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: respond well in terms of making adjustments to account for that.

1307
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: The fact that they they basically made a forty five

1308
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: year old quarterback set the NFL record for past attempts

1309
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: in the season is ridiculous. You know, they they this

1310
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: scheme just doesn't do a lot to help a quarterback

1311
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: out to scheme guys open, it's basically, hey, lineup and

1312
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: my guys are gonna beat your guys. And you know

1313
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: what that worked in when it was Mike Evans and

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01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin at full strength and Antonio Brown and Rob

1315
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: Gronkowski and three Pro bowlers on the offensive line because

1316
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: Combrady could just stand back there for eight seconds and

1317
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: somebody would get open. One of those three future Hall

1318
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: of famers is going to get open. You can't cover

1319
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: them all. So when guys get hurt and guys aren't there,

1320
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: No Aby, no Grant, no Ryan Jensen, no Ali Mark

1321
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: pet because he retired, no Alex Kappa. You know, you

1322
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: start to deal with all those injuries. Now you're not

1323
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: just that much better than every buddy now, and your

1324
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: scheme has got to account for that. It didn't. So

1325
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: you know again, the choice they make an offensive coordinator,

1326
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: I think is going to have a huge impact on

1327
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: just how easy it might be for them to win

1328
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: this division again. Luke, great stuff man, Thank you so

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01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: much for your time today. Hey, pleasure, thanks so much.

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01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: All right, that's Luke easter Ling. Always a treat to

1331
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: have him on. He's at the Draft Wire, the Bucks

1332
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: Wire in USA Today sports media group could work out

1333
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Speaker 1: of him. He joined on the Twisted Tea Hard iced

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Speaker 1: tea hotline, official sponsor of your Cleveland Browns. Keep it

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Speaker 1: Twisted Cleveland. Coming up next the free agent list that

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01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: every team ought to sign, including us. It's a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: There's your hint. You might be surprised the name that

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Speaker 1: you that we will we will share with you. Coming

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Speaker 1: by Baally Bet, coming soon to Ohio on a fifty

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Speaker 1: Barking Backers the fan club for dogs. All right, so,

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01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:21,479
Speaker 1: according to this Chinese surveillance balloon forecast to travel map,

1348
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: I was right. So our good friend Rex Chapman, yes,

1349
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: tweeted out where the balloon was, and you can track

1350
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: the balloon fantastic on some kind of dot com site.

1351
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: All right, it is currently if I if I can

1352
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: pull this map up? Can I pull the map up? Well,

1353
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw that it was headed. It'll be

1354
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: like in southwest Missouri at some point by the No, no,

1355
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: we're past that. The already we're basically into Atlanta, just

1356
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: north of Atlanta. It's gonna go through the middle of

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01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: the Carolinas and then out to sea. Alright, So then

1358
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: I think the obvious choice would be the obvious question

1359
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: fair would be, uh, why has this thing not been

1360
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: shot down? If it is a very clear path it

1361
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: appears to be being driven. Yeah, I mean it has

1362
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: gone through force, It's gone through eleven states. Wild Hello,

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01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: uh not? Wild Kyrie Irving has requested a trade from

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01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: the next that I was going to go next. There's

1365
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: your there that one was well on. So they've they've

1366
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: actually played really well. And he's like, yeah, I'm good.

1367
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: I'll see on down the road. Boys. That's just about

1368
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: time when when the team is playing well, I guess

1369
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: who can kill it. I do wonder if he's the

1370
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: reason that the Lakers haven't made the deals that people

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01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: think that they were going to made to be made.

1372
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: I do wonder if he ends up there for like

1373
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: a second round pick in Westbrook or something like that.

1374
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: I think they both it's almost like that. I think

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: that it's almost like, does anybody like him? Does anybody

1376
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: like either one? I think the lot of people like

1377
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: Lebron other than you, I don't think that anybody likes

1378
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: Kyrie like nobody. So like maybe he's come to the

1379
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: realization that the only place that he can has had

1380
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: success is with Lebron. He was a little he was

1381
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: pretty good when he was here the last time, like

1382
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: reflecting on his time here, and I hope as he

1383
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: gets older there's more appreciation given because he was brilliant,

1384
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: fun to watch here um and hit the most important

1385
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: shot in the history of the franchise, so that I

1386
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: don't you hope that there aren't bitter feelings forever around

1387
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: that because it was a hell of a time and

1388
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: he was even before Lebron came The reason Lebron came back, right,

1389
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: the big reason Lebron came back is because Kyrie was here.

1390
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: So they had a dude that he could play with

1391
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: that allowed for all of that. Um Tee Higgins twenty

1392
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: five minutes ago. Here y'all go, yeah, yeah. So Bengals

1393
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: have a lot, man, there's a lot on their plate

1394
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: as they try to try to sort through all of

1395
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: the CBS Sports Calm two three. NFL Free Agency one

1396
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: player each team should prioritize signing in the off season.

1397
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: There are some big names here, for example, the Falcons

1398
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. Um that has provided that the Bengals

1399
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: I guess either wouldn't franchise him or he wouldn't sign it. Um.

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01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: DJ Chark to the Ravens, No, thank you don't want that,

1401
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: although he can't stay healthy. This is a lot of fun.

1402
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: I think they have some like sa Kwan Barkley to

1403
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: the Bills. Um, like, none of this stuff is gonna happen,

1404
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: but they do have Ellen Lazard to us, it is

1405
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: fascinating what happens with Barkley. The Giants are a fascinating

1406
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: team to watch this offseason between Dandy Dimes and what

1407
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: we believe, he's gonna come back. But at what price?

1408
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: You know, what exactly is he going to cost? Because

1409
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: you don't want to overpay Dandy dimes, but he is

1410
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: going to cost you something. And are you gonna pay

1411
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Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley who wrecked up fifty yards from scrimmage

1412
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: and ten TVs? Yeah, you're gonna pay him some. I

1413
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: just think like probably more along the Chubb line than

1414
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: the Ezekiel Elliott lines. So it'll be if se Kwan

1415
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: Can is willing to do that. I'll tell you this,

1416
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't like I sneak all the way down to

1417
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh to Ron Payne. I don't want that, uh in

1418
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. So we do not need

1419
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: that here. They do have Jimmy Garoppolo to the Bucks

1420
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: as as one to be as you think about that

1421
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: quarterback kind of rotation that would go there. Um Allen

1422
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: Lazard to us, they write, the wide receiver market isn't

1423
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: exactly stacked this year, which works in Wizard's favor. The

1424
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 1: soon to be former Packer had a career year sixty catches,

1425
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: six touchdowns twenty seven years old. Interesting weapons for the

1426
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: Browns of course, and Cooper, DPJ, David Bell and the Chief.

1427
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: But they need another one if they want to get

1428
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: the most out of Dashawn. Um, I don't know, does

1429
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 1: Lazard fit? Is he a speech? What we need? I

1430
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: mean sixty catches and eight yards that that I'm interested?

1431
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: Six touchdowns? Okay, yeah, I don't But is he fast?

1432
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: Can can? Is he the guy to get behind defense?

1433
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's get the top off guy

1434
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: or not. Thirteen yards of reception last year, the six touchdowns? Um, yeah,

1435
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you're gonna You're gonna start

1436
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: to see a lot of things just thrown at the

1437
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: at the wall and see if it's sticks. Um. You know,

1438
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: for the Browns, I think that for sure you will

1439
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: be in high speed pursuit of receivers like Chark to

1440
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: me would make more sense. Um. But but we'll see.

1441
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: You're you have to address that and you have to

1442
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: address defensive line, I mean in the biggest possible way,

1443
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 1: so you can't do it through the draft. This is

1444
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:38,839
Speaker 1: from a fantasy website. Fantasy sports website. As an athlete

1445
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: was art as a beast running a four five pounds,

1446
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: ain't it? Yeah? Yeah, it feels like I mean, just

1447
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: from the statistical accumulation and acknowledging as is, if you

1448
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: probably haven't already noticed you and I aren't watching every

1449
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: single Packers game that's played, um that it feels more

1450
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,919
Speaker 1: like he's more in the DPJ mold. Another big, physical

1451
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 1: guy who can get contested catches. What what this operation

1452
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: needs is a four three guy? Is kind of where

1453
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 1: it is. Here's one that I just saw. This is

1454
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: this would make this would make me happy on various levels. Uh,

1455
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky, Hey Bears trade for T Higgins? That would

1456
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense if if that can happen

1457
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 1: and they've got the capital to do so, Yeah, yeah,

1458
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: they really do. Um that's that's a pretty fascinating one.

1459
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 1: Anything that that waters down, um, anything that waters down

1460
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: the a f C in any way, I'm four and

1461
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: that would water that down. I don't think. I think

1462
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: Cincinnati will do everything in their power to keep Higgins there.

1463
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 1: I think that they know how special this thing is.

1464
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: They still have two more years they have. Even if

1465
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: they do the extension with Burrow, they still have two

1466
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: more years before it really kicks in. Yeah, he can

1467
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: get paid the one million dollar contractor and then well

1468
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: he would be eleven I think he's eleven million. Uh,

1469
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: next year Burrow is and then the year after that,

1470
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: even if the extent and he's like in the twenties

1471
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: before it goes to like fifty. So even on a

1472
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: big extension, there's still a couple more years. And knowing them,

1473
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: I don't think that Burrow would want anything other than

1474
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 1: Tee Higgins still being involved. That they can go find

1475
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: another third wide receiver Tyler Boyd okay, and Mixing could

1476
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: be out of this mixed before. Yeah, yeah, Jesse Bates

1477
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: for them. They have going to Jacksonville. I don't I

1478
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: don't see any way Bates comes back. They got the

1479
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: Dolphins with Josh Jacobs, our guy O'Dell to the Patriots.

1480
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: Odell is not going to the Patriots to throw catch

1481
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: passes from Mac Jones. And I don't even know what

1482
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: the table, Yeah, I don't. Clearly he's not a still

1483
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: well in car cars not on this list, and he

1484
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: will be. He's going to be a free agent once

1485
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: he's bought out, so he'll lands pain end up a squealer.

1486
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: That can't happen. You can't live in a world for that.

1487
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you have to. It's a very complicate

1488
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: at it off season for Andrew Berry because he has

1489
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: to be ultra aggressive into specific markets at defensive tackle

1490
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: and receiver. He knows he needs immediate upgrades for this

1491
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: team to be one that can go win the a

1492
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: f C North and contend with Cincinnati and Buffalo and

1493
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 1: Kansas City. The Chargers are coming, the Jaguars are coming,

1494
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: and you can't satisfy this in the second round. This

1495
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: is a win now roster. We talked to Jacob about

1496
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: that yesterday. When you're out at you ah, like there

1497
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 1: is a sense of urgency. Yeah, it's right, It's time

1498
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: to go for everyone. Yeah, top to bottom Tampa Bay,

1499
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: Jimmy g Yeah, I think that makes a lot of

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01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: sense for for him there if they if they want

1501
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 1: to run it back, and like that's what I was

1502
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: talking about with Luke when we had Luke Easterly on

1503
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: who covers the Bucks, Like, I think a lot of

1504
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: it is if you're the Bucks, you just look at

1505
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: that division and you say someone's gotta win it, it

1506
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: might as well be us, and you can win with

1507
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: an average quarterback. And the other thing is is you

1508
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: so you you say we can win the division? Why

1509
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: not us? You could say you win the NFC whine

1510
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: not us? Like there other than the Eagles, there's nobody

1511
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: in the NFC that you look at and go, well,

1512
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 1: they at it all figured out, and the Eagles are

1513
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,440
Speaker 1: gonna be an entirely different team next year. James Bradberry's

1514
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: number one on this list. They got it, They're gonna

1515
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 1: they're in defense is gonna look entirely different. There are

1516
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: no juggernauts in the NFC, and there's no one set

1517
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: for long term success, not one. But you would say,

1518
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: a dude, but we don't know if Trey Lance is me.

1519
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: He's taken so few snaps through the years. Um, but

1520
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: those are the teams that are best situated. But you

1521
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: think of the draft picks in the NFC at quarterback,

1522
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: many of them have fallen flat. The fact that you

1523
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: know that we don't know what Kyler is this far

1524
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: into it, Like that's a team that you would have

1525
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: thought would be on the ascent. Who knows now? So yeah,

1526
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: the NFC. You can't even get a coach yet. No,

1527
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: they still haven't absolutely wild this Lamarto Atlanta thing. I

1528
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: mean unless that's via a trade. Well, it would be right,

1529
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: because he's gonna be What would happen is is once here,

1530
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: they'l franchise him. Okay, so my guess is it would go.

1531
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: My hunches, it would go, let's get a deal done.

1532
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: Can't get a deal done, franchise. If he doesn't sign

1533
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: the tag, then your trade. And the Falcons objected to

1534
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 1: have the second most cap space in the NFL this offseason. Yeah,

1535
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 1: so you could you could pay him? Yeah. I mean

1536
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,799
Speaker 1: the that watch the NFC South because all of those

1537
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: teams feel like they're a quarterback away. They all have

1538
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: pieces that are intriguing UM. In the case of Carolina

1539
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: and certainly Atlanta, they have um ownership that is incentivized

1540
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: to win and get it going in a hurry. So

1541
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 1: the NFC South has a very interesting offseason ahead of it.

1542
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: I look forward to get to the combine and kind

1543
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: of hearing the buzz on what it what some of

1544
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: those teams approach is going to because it does feel

1545
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: like there's more quarterback need than there is players capable

1546
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 1: of giving you a real lift. I mean where Easterly

1547
01:14:54,840 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: was mentioning he mentioned Garoppolo, Bake, um Car and Jacoby,

1548
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: So like, those aren't Super Bowl guys. No, that type

1549
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: of guys aren't there. So you can win the South

1550
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: two or three of them? Yeah not all um, all right,

1551
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: we'll hit the mail bag coming up next. Still time

1552
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1567
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: give a hi Bo, how are you? I'm not bad?

1568
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: Did you see um uh? Lot going on on the

1569
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: in the college football side of things. So Oklahoma and

1570
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 1: Texas are negotiating to get out of the Big Twelve

1571
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: a year early. So both of those schools are going

1572
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: to the Southeastern Conference schedule to go there in. The

1573
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: SEC would like him in. The Big Twelve would like

1574
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: them out. The Big Twelve wants them out like they

1575
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: would like to be rid of them. The last thing

1576
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: they want is to hand Big Twelve championship trophies to

1577
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: teams that are leading, So they want them out. The

1578
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: two schools want to get out. And you said, you said, well,

1579
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: what's the hang up? Well, the hang up is the

1580
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 1: true boss of college football television e ESPN and Fox

1581
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: on the shared rights to the Big Twelve, and they

1582
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: can't come up with the right terms to be able

1583
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: to get a equitable exit for both Texas and Oklahoma

1584
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: because once Texas and Oklahoma leave the Big Twelve, they

1585
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,600
Speaker 1: will cease to ever be on Fox. They will be

1586
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: in ESPN property entirely because that contracts which is over

1587
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 1: to ESPN. ESPN will own all of the Southeastern Conference.

1588
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: Well double think, ye I did um isn't when USC

1589
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: and u c l I joined, So they do. I'm

1590
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: assuming they want to go in the same the SEC

1591
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: wants their new schools at the same time, the Big

1592
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: Ten coincides with the new television deals to so at

1593
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: that in like forever, I mean for twenty some years,

1594
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: the CBS three thirty game has been the SEC in

1595
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 1: that three thirty game will be a Big ten game,

1596
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: so it will go the Big ten it is. The

1597
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: Big Ten will have to service the noon window on

1598
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 1: Fox with Noon, the Big Ten will have to service

1599
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 1: the three thirty window on CBS, and they'll have to

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01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: see I don't saw this, uh eye Eagles Son and

1601
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: Todd Blackledge the prime time game on NBC, which is

1602
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: a Big ten game. So NBC will have Notre Dame

1603
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,759
Speaker 1: football and Big ten football will be their operation. CBS

1604
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: is college football will now be entirely Big Ten, which

1605
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 1: is tough. It's tough. And then because not everybody's a

1606
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: highest state Michigan now it'll help when USC comes in.

1607
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: That'll be good inventory that I don't know how they're

1608
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: going to draft it like who gets first pick? Think

1609
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: my hunches Foxwell, so they'll always take the High State

1610
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: Michigan game first. So if you're if you're CBS, like,

1611
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: the next game you want is the first time USC

1612
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: goes to Ohio State and the first time Ohio State

1613
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: goes to USC. Same thing would be true of Michigan

1614
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: first time for both, Penn State first time for both.

1615
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: And then how do they balance the schedule? Do they

1616
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: put USC in a separate conference? Remember they're making a

1617
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: television show. So my hunches that you want to make

1618
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: sure USC plays Ohio State in Michigan and Penn State

1619
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, it would be my guests like,

1620
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 1: you don't want it to be where US the only

1621
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: plays Michigan Ohio State once every four years. How are

1622
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: they going to align these because Penn State is going

1623
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: to have to go to the east. They are already

1624
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 1: in the east. But I mean right now the so

1625
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: right now you would add if you do it geographically,

1626
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: you would add USC in U. C. L A to

1627
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: the west, and you would probably take Indiana. Well, Indiana

1628
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: is already in the east. You'd put Perdue and probably

1629
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: Illinois or Northwestern would go to the East. But the

1630
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 1: last thing Ohio State wants to do is play more

1631
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: games against people like Perdue in Illinois. They already do

1632
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: plenty of that having to play Rutgers in Maryland and Indiana,

1633
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 1: so they you gotta get as many television shows as possible.

1634
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: You need USC, Ohio State, USC, Michigan, USC, Penn State.

1635
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: You need that a lot. I have that on my

1636
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: list for you. And Mr tivis Paul checking with you

1637
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,600
Speaker 1: on Monday, enjoying that former intern most famously known to

1638
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:14,440
Speaker 1: be my former intern. That's right, that's right, not necessarily

1639
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: the m v P of the National Championship Game. Not

1640
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: that more so is my former intern, of course. But

1641
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: I figured we would talk a little recruiting at the

1642
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: end at that because the whole breakdown is fascinating. Uh,

1643
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: and some of the Ohio State and I l comments

1644
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on on that front. Yeah, I

1645
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: figure what we'll save that for Monday. It'll be a

1646
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: nice Monday conversation. So, uh. You can tweet at the

1647
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: show at Brown's Underscore Daily using the hashtag asks c

1648
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: b d at Minuto man, our favorite tweeter outside of

1649
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: Hey Bobby, what's your take on the Buddy Guaranty Tim

1650
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: Riggins relationship beginning of series, but he is anti Riggins

1651
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 1: later in the series. He's a character witness for Riggins. Uh,

1652
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful growth of character. Um. In the end,

1653
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: Buddy Garretty sees himself and Tim Riggins, so Riggs and

1654
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 1: then also like he catches Riggins with his daughter. So

1655
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna send you in the wrong direction. Tim's a

1656
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 1: party or had likes to have a lights to have

1657
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 1: a beer from time to time. Uh. Tim Riggins apparently

1658
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: was a three year senior for the Dylan Panthers, Like

1659
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 1: he was a senior every year. It's just strange. Um,

1660
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: But yeah, he sees himself. He sees himself in Tim Riggins.

1661
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,839
Speaker 1: And so that's by the way, that was Tim Riggans

1662
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: going to jail for his brother's absurdly stupid decisions. There's

1663
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 1: some blue storytelling in the end of Friday Night Lights,

1664
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,919
Speaker 1: but it still holds up wonderfully, Like if you honestly,

1665
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: I think my wife's um my sister in law and

1666
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: her husband recently started watching it unbeknownst to Amy and

1667
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: I and they were like, oh, you and bo gotta

1668
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: watch Friday Night Lights. And Amy goes that's why his

1669
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 1: name is Buddy Garritty, and they're like, oh, I got it,

1670
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, it's great. It holds up. I

1671
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: watched it show probably fifteen years. It's unbelievable. It's there. Yeah,

1672
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: it's awesome. I watched it actually on the treadmill during

1673
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: the pandemic. I would get on the treadmill in the

1674
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: morning and I'd watch an episode every day. Um, and

1675
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: I could not believe how well it held up. Awesome.

1676
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: Isaac Moore tweets at the show do you think Do

1677
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: you guys think that if Vegas is willing to part

1678
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: with Hunter Renfro, he would be a viable option for

1679
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: the Browns. He has the Watson connection was a stud

1680
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 1: last season. Yeah, but he for sure. I don't know

1681
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: what Vegas is doing. Nobody knows. Um. I think he

1682
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: would probably if they like, for example, if they went

1683
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: for Rogers. If they get Rogers, then he would want Renfro,

1684
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,759
Speaker 1: He would want Waller, he has that, they would have Adams,

1685
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,759
Speaker 1: so I think he would want all those people. Renfro

1686
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: would be great, But I also think it doesn't It

1687
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:53,959
Speaker 1: doesn't solve the burn Burner situation. He's a slot guy. Um,

1688
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: so you could that'd be helpful here. We don't have that.

1689
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: You know, you want David Bell to be that. But

1690
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: what they need is somebody who can get deep and

1691
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 1: catch the ball. That's it. That's that's an important component.

1692
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: Just just throwing that part out there. Brown's therapy. Why

1693
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 1: does Gibby avoid the bromance we could have and not

1694
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 1: follow me? You don't love bat, you don't follow BT.

1695
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: I feel like I do. I think I think Brown's

1696
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: daily follows him. I think he wants you personally. He

1697
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: wants B. G. S U. Gibbs to follow him. You're here,

1698
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you here. He's an all timer, man,

1699
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: Brown an original, He's one of He's one of the

1700
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: best from one I understand. I'm just selective. Yeah, he's

1701
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: selfless too, He's very selfless. BT is Yes. Oh, let's

1702
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: this is an interesting one from Ethan Adams. Can we

1703
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: just trade up and draft Jackson Smith and Jiga? No? No,

1704
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't have the capital for it. Man. Well. The

1705
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 1: other thing is is like this is a pretty UM.

1706
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 1: I think it's very um like this receiving class there

1707
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: aren't it's not as deep as previous years, like Jacks

1708
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: didn't even play for a high stand. I mean he

1709
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: did like twice he came back from me in the

1710
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: Iowa game. He got hurt right away in the Notre

1711
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 1: Dame game. So like, yeah, Brandon Moore, white face masks

1712
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: to stay or no, I prefer the white ones. So

1713
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 1: I think if you looked at um, if you listen

1714
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 1: closely to what uh what j W had to say, um,

1715
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 1: it felt like he kind of acknowledged that there was

1716
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 1: a process heading towards going back to the white it

1717
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: can't happen. So the NFL folks has these crazy rules

1718
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: about it has to take Like if you change a logo,

1719
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: if you change a jersey, like on a uniform redesign,

1720
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: you have to wait five years to redesign a uniform.

1721
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: So for example, like the Commies, like they're stuck in

1722
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: that even with a new owner, they're stuck in that

1723
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: for four more seasons before they could change out of it.

1724
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 1: So I didn't know the same was true with a logo.

1725
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 1: And I'm guessing because the logo has the brown face mask,

1726
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 1: they would want to make sure that they could get

1727
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: it to the white so that that would coincide. So

1728
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have to give a five

1729
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: year warning or whatever. But they've had this logo for

1730
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: a long time. It remained unchanged in the uniform change,

1731
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 1: so you would think you'd be able to move off

1732
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: of it and go to a white. Um. But you're right,

1733
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: the white look great. I like the gray a lot too.

1734
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 1: I think both of them are really really clean. So

1735
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: we'll see they know they see it. Yeah, Bobby, time,

1736
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: you've discovered a beautiful island upon which you may build

1737
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 1: your own society and you can even make the rules.

1738
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 1: What's going to be the first rule you'll put in place?

1739
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 1: No social media? Naptime? There's a nap I do like

1740
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 1: the I do like the Yeah, there's something that's nice

1741
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 1: with like the afternoon break. I like it. I'm into that.

1742
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: It's not in my world right now, but yeah, exactly.

1743
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: Brown's Backers from North Jersey. By the way, slid this

1744
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: one and I totally missed it. Two or three favorite

1745
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: thirty for thirty documentaries, and there are some good ones. Um.

1746
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: The best one I think is too Escobars. It's unbelievable.

1747
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 1: Once Brothers is great? Is that? The Petrovitch one. The

1748
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 1: Petrovitch one is amazing. Um, you know. The one that

1749
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 1: I watched that I just think is fun is Pony Excess,

1750
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: And it's about just the corruption at s MU, because

1751
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: it's great to hear like these Texas guys talk about

1752
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,759
Speaker 1: how they're like Texas A and M gave Eric Dickerson

1753
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: a gold trans am for him to sign at Texas

1754
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: A and M, which now, of course would all be legal.

1755
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 1: And Dickerson took the trans am and then on national

1756
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: signing Day switched to s m U, like and what

1757
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: were they gonna do? Hey, you give us our money back,

1758
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 1: give us our car back. No Excess is really fun.

1759
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: It's a funny one. I love all the corrupt college

1760
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: football ones. The best that never was the the you. Um,

1761
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 1: all of those are really good, but that one's the best.

1762
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 1: I think, what music would you choose to play every

1763
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: time you walk into a room? Back to Bobby, But

1764
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: is that like your walk up music? Jeez, Bobby, do

1765
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: you have one for that? Uh? I'm thinking I feel

1766
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: like we've had one of those. I don't really have

1767
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 1: a I don't know. It changes so much of it

1768
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: depends on like the mood of it all. Are you

1769
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: trying to set a tone or I love a little

1770
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 1: Toby Keith. I love this bar when I walk in

1771
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: like I would do that. I'm a huge Dave Matthews

1772
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: fan ants. Marching is great, but it's not a walk

1773
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 1: up song. No, it's great though. Yeah, I don't. I

1774
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: guess I don't have one that comes to mind where

1775
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 1: I think of that. I would want to walk like

1776
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: into every room I walk into. Yeah, if bald people

1777
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: work in a restaurant, do they still need to wear

1778
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,879
Speaker 1: a hairnet? I believe they do. Actually they shouldn't. They shouldn't,

1779
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: but I believe they have to. Yeah, does anyone is

1780
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 1: anyone wearing hairnets? Now? Like you in a restaurant you

1781
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 1: see the guys back there? Then I don't, But in

1782
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 1: some places, yes, I believe that still happens. The most

1783
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:20,879
Speaker 1: interesting place you've ever been to Bora, Bora. Hmm, okay,

1784
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:26,480
Speaker 1: congratulations on all your successes. Thank you. Uh. The funniest,

1785
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: craziest thing you've ever done? Not suitable for air Fair.

1786
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 1: Favorite superhero I love spider Man, spider Man guy. I

1787
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:36,600
Speaker 1: was a Batman guy the whole time growing up. But

1788
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 1: it's interesting I was almost completely unaware of Iron Man,

1789
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 1: and it feels like he's basically Batman, except he has

1790
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: a lot more fun and I don't know if that's

1791
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: just the portrayal of Hollywood. Batman has always got all

1792
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: this angst. It's always dark and pretty and angry, like

1793
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: lost parents. Everything sucks. It's like, well, iron Man feels

1794
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: like he's got the same advantages, except he gets to

1795
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 1: kind of live moments. But life's looking pretty. It seems okay,

1796
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 1: like he's you know, both have the infinite money. Both

1797
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 1: are just dudes like I wouldn't want to deal with

1798
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 1: like real superpowers. That feels like that'd be heavy. So yeah,

1799
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: it things like Thorne as okay for himself too. That's

1800
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: all right, that's Boots, he's one. He loves thor Alright,

1801
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: that's today's mail bed. We'll get to a few more

1802
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 1: of these on Monday. We'll put Paul through the ringer.

1803
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, so much more to come.

1804
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,639
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Speaker 1: shift to the Super Bowl thivis pal Bey in here

1809
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 1: with me on Monday, my former intern, former Buckeye great.

1810
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 1: Of course, um in our will shift to the Super Bowl.

1811
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: The matchup between Kansas City and Philly. Philly will be

1812
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 1: in the green uniforms and the green over white, I believe,

1813
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 1: and the the Chiefs will be in white over red.

1814
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: Will be the look and the white. The team in

1815
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 1: white has won fifteen in the last eighteen Gibbeck, take note,

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01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 1: Take note, kids, Have a great weekend. Everybody. The next

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Speaker 1: level is coming up next. Thanks for listening Cleve the

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