1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travison buck Sexton 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Let's 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: dive right into it because I am fired up. We 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: discussed a little bit yesterday as the January sixth the 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: Bombshell witnessed twenty five year old Cassidy Hutchinson, who was 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: working inside the White House with Mark Meadows, the chief 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: of Staff at the end of the Trump administration. The 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: January sixth Committee has done whatever they can to garner 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: as much attention as they possibly can from a gullible 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: and often complicit news media. But yesterday's testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson, 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: which was hearsay about what happened from her perspective based 13 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: on what she had been told inside of the limo 14 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: after Donald Trump's speech on January sixth, set a new 15 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: low in terms of the willingness of Democrats to go 16 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: after Donald Trump in this January sixth hearing. Let me 17 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: explain what I mean by this. What she testified to 18 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: is hearsay. Now, I understand a lot of people don't 19 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time on legal related issues. But 20 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: the general rule is you are not allowed to testify 21 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: to something that you were told by someone else that 22 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: they witnessed. That is textbook hearsay. So the January sixth Committee, 23 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: which features a lot of lawyers working on it, made 24 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: the decision to put this twenty five year old witness 25 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: on despite the fact they knew that she was making 26 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: salacious comments that she had not herself witnessed regarding what 27 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump may have done inside of that limo. And 28 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: I want to play you this cut because a lot 29 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: of you are just hearing from the media about these 30 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: stories and you didn't even necessarily hear what Cassidy Hutchinson said. 31 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: This is textbook hearsay. Listen. So, once the President had 32 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: gotten into the vehicle with Bobby, he thought that they 33 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 1: were going up to the Capitol, and when Bobby had 34 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: related to him, we're not, you don't have the assets 35 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: to do it. It's not secure. We're going back to 36 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: the West Wing. The President had very strong, very angry 37 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: response to that. Tony described him as being irate. The 38 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: President said something to the effect of I'm the FFing 39 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: president taking me up to the Capitol now, to which 40 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: Bobby responded, sir, we have to go back to the 41 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: west wing. The President reached up towards the front of 42 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: the vehicle to crab at the steering wheel. Mister Engel 43 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: grabbed his arm, said, sir, you need to take your 44 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: hand off the steering wheel. We're going back to the 45 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: west wing. We're not going to the capitol. Mister Trump 46 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: then he used his free hand to lunge towards Bobby 47 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: Angle And when mister Ronado had recounted this story to me, 48 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: he had motioned towards his clappicles. All of this, one 49 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: hundred percent would be inadmissible in a court of law. Buck. 50 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: And as if that were not enough, the Secret Service 51 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: has now said no one from the January sixth Committee 52 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: reached out to them to ask any of these details 53 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: in the last ten days, and that both Secret Service 54 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: agents are ready and prepared and willing to testify to 55 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: the January sixth Committee that what this woman, Cassidy Hutchinson 56 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: reported that had occurred and what they had said is 57 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: not true. And as the actual witnesses in that car, 58 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: they are happy to tell their side of the story, 59 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: which is not what Cassidy Hutchinson said. Buck This just 60 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: has blown up, even for an incompetent January sixth Committee. 61 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: I think this has destroyed any shred of credibility that 62 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: they have. This is the worst thing they could have done. Well, 63 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: this was their best shot, it seems at least they 64 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: were leading up to. This is the witness that we 65 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: didn't know about before, but now with the new bombshell testimony, 66 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: and you could tell that they had lined it all 67 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: up right. It reminds me of you remember the morning 68 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: this was a great a great day in fake news 69 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: history when Elizabeth Warren's DNA test results came out. Yeah, 70 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 1: I was watching CNN in real time and I actually 71 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: got into it. Their head of you know, PR or whatever. 72 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: Online they were saying vindication for Elizabeth Warren. It turns 73 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: out she is point eight percent Native American, right, I mean, 74 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: and then they realized, oh my gosh, wait, that's not 75 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: gonna work. Like they knew what the marching orders were, 76 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: and it was obviously a catastrophe for them. They knew 77 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: the marching orders here, who are oh my gosh, the 78 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: most riveting testimony ever. This is a show trial. It's 79 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: not even a trial, right, so it's almost wrong to 80 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing is absurd, and what it shows you 81 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: is in the absence of any Republican participation and also 82 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: the absence of any agreed upon procedures exactly what you said, hearsay, Yeah, whatever, 83 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: they'll throw it in there. They don't care. Just process 84 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: is not justice. You actually have to have a just process, right, 85 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: You have to actually have some protections in place to 86 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: get to the truth. This isn't about getting the truth. 87 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: This is about propaganda. And by the way, they all 88 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 1: lined up for this one, did you. I mean they're reporting. 89 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: We we just reported. I want to I haven't even 90 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: heard this yet, but I think everybody's going to enjoy it. 91 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: The Greg put this together on our team. Here's a 92 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: montage of all the mainstream media breathlessly reacting to that 93 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: hearsay commentary that you just saw. No, no, this is 94 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: them saying the secrets, which which one are we going 95 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: for here? Because the Secret Service here is saying that 96 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: this is not true. The montage is that it's not Sorry, 97 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: the montage is now them saying it was not true. 98 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: You're right, sorry, I thought it was them breathlessly reacting 99 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: because we also got that right. Play cut nine. The 100 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: Secret Service will push back against any allegation of an 101 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: assault against an agent or President Trump reaching for the 102 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: steering wheel. The Secret Service is telling you that the 103 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: lead agent disputes some of Hutchinson's testimony, disputing some of 104 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: that really dramatic story about Donald Trump trying to lunge 105 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: forward and take control of the beast, prepared to testify 106 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: under oath that neither man was assaulted and then mister 107 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Trump never lunged for the steering wheel. The agents involved 108 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: are prepared to testify under oath that the incident did 109 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: not occur. The Secret Service will deny this one little 110 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: part the steering wheel claim. The agents would say that 111 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: the incident itself described their just simply did not happen. 112 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: That's a big notice, even variation their clay. Secret Service 113 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: willing to come out under oath this just did not happen. Essentially, 114 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: the Secret Service, who obviously swarren oath to uphold and 115 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: defend the Constitution, law enforce and professionals, are willing to 116 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: say in front of this committee, this never happened. Do 117 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: you think now we really get down to brass techs. 118 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: Do we think they're going to follow up and you're 119 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: going to see the Secret Service agents involved. If they 120 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: don't call these secret Service agents to get their testimony 121 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: under oath, this thing is an even bigger joke and 122 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: sham than we've known it was all along. So that 123 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: is the reaction after initial breathless approval of everything that 124 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: she had said. And I want to play this, but 125 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: that is a good montage that was put together of 126 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: people saying, oh, by the way, everything that she testified 127 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: to essentially is untrue based on the people who are 128 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: actually witnesses in the vehicle. Here is CNN's Jamie Gangel. 129 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: This is cut eleven saying America and democracy are in 130 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: debt to Cassidy huh. Liz Cheney began her final comments 131 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: by saying that we are in debt to Cassidy Hutchinson. 132 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: I think America and democracy is in debt to this 133 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: young woman. So I feel bad for her buck And 134 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: let me explain what I mean by that. She's twenty 135 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: five years old. She is, I think, trying to be 136 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: honest to the best of her ability, and yet they 137 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: just trotted her out there solely for all the headlines 138 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: to try to make Trump look bad because they know 139 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: that there's about forty percent of the American public that 140 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: no matter what you said, if you were like Donald 141 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: Trump pulled out a gun and put it to the 142 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: Secret serviceman's head and said, if you don't drive me 143 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: to the Capitol right now, I'm gonna blow your brains out. 144 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: Like there's a certain segment of the population. Forty percent 145 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: of Americans would believe that that happened, that Trump had 146 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: a gun in the car, that he put the gun 147 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: to the Secret Service agent's head. But there's almost nothing 148 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: you could say to those forty percent, And they had 149 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: already leaked everything buck and so there's nothing new. And 150 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: this was their desperate hail Mary, and it got intercepted. 151 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: I don't even think they even got the pass off. 152 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: This was the best shot that they could come up with, 153 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: which tells you a lot. But it's also a reminder 154 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: of the ongoing intelligence test here, which is will people 155 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: who will believe whatever crazy thing the fake news will 156 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: say about the now former by eighteen months, Yes, President 157 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: of the United States. Remember back in September twenty twenty, 158 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: when they were running with the Donald Trump said Americans 159 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: who died in war are losers and suckers. That was 160 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: the That was the big all right before the election. 161 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: It was it was their September surprise, if you will, 162 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: instead of an October surprise. Tump didn't say that, and 163 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: they were so obvious that that's not. There are things 164 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: that that the former president would say that perhaps you 165 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: and I would say, I know, he's salty, sometimes he's 166 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: a fighter, I get it. Disrespecting our military dead, Nah, 167 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: that's not that's not President Trump. Just didn't happen. But 168 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: people wanted to believe it, so they believed it. In 169 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: this case, Clay lunge for the throat of a Secret 170 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: Service officer. Donald Trump is gonna try to man handles. 171 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: He gonna choke out a forty year old, highly trained 172 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: Secret Service officer Like I know a lot of those guys. 173 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: I've I've worked around those guys. This just didn't Trump 174 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't do it, and it just didn't happen. It also 175 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: physically doesn't make sense. Buck the president rides in the 176 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: back of a vehicle in order for him to lunge 177 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: and grab the steering wheel first of all, that, how 178 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: is he going to steer from the back of the 179 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: vehicle and to jump all the way from the back 180 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: of the vehicle to the front of the vehicle and 181 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: take control of the steering wheel. I mean, it just 182 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: doesn't even physically make sense. And again to your point, 183 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: we're not talking about the world's greatest, most athletic man. 184 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: We're talking about a seventy five year old guy who's 185 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: gonna leap from the back of a vehicle to the front, 186 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: grab a wheel, and then what like, steer it. He 187 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: doesn't still control the pedals, right, I mean, it's just nonsensical. 188 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: It goes back to your initial point. I mean, we 189 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: don't even have to just you know, hearsay as the 190 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: legal term if you're serious here, meaning if the Democrats 191 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: are serious about this story being true, of course you 192 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: go with an eyewitness. Why do they go with the 193 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: twenty five year old executive assistant or whatever who wasn't 194 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: even there, Like, think about the mentality they have all 195 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: these months. Think of the millions of taxpayer dollars that 196 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: are being spent on the and all congressional salary fires 197 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: me a buck. All the people that know better on 198 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: the hearsay front that would say this is really crap, 199 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: but they don't cannot very reliable. The point is when 200 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: it comes to Trump, whether you're a journalist, a lawyer, 201 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: an intelligence officer, whatever, all of your ethics are supposed 202 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: to be own out the window because stopping and now 203 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: just defaming, they're stopping Trump is all that matters, and 204 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: they can't get out of that mentality. And what we 205 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: see here is now any person. They thought this was 206 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: going to force everyone to go, oh gosh, Donald Trump, 207 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: he's so scary. The nuclear codes. And remember the president 208 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: who didn't start a war and didn't watch as Europe 209 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: had its biggest war since World War Two. He's the 210 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: big threat, I don't think so far. Also the president, 211 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: and this is a big point in his favor, that 212 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: they said was going to be a dictator. There was 213 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: never a time in most of our lives where a 214 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: president could have taken more power than in the early 215 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: days after COVID, if you were truly dictatorial in your 216 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: belief scheme. There has never been a I don't believe 217 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: in my life a time maybe right after nine to eleven, 218 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: when a president had more opportunity to take complete and 219 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: total control. And Trump deferred to mayor, to governors, to 220 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: executives in all different parts of the country. In fact, 221 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: you can argue, if anything, that his federal control was 222 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: too light because it led to some draconian policies being 223 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: implemented by officials in other states. And so this, I mean, 224 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: we need to open up phone lines too, because I 225 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: just think this is such a ridiculous thing that they did. 226 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: And I'm curious how many people in media will actually 227 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: even call out the committee. From my favorite throw are 228 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: the quote Republicans who are there's still this core of 229 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: these never trumpers out there who this was their moment 230 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: of vindication yesterday Clay, and now the Secret Service has 231 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: come out and said, nah, didn't happen. We'll swear to 232 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: the fact that this didn't happen. And I just as 233 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: a lawyer, I mean I almost want there to be 234 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: people who are lawyers that are on this committee held 235 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: accountable by their bar associations, like how in the world 236 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: did you ever put this witness to tell her story? 237 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: You know? Even better the media, the Bar association is 238 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: basically like run by the Communist Manifesto. Now I know, 239 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: unfortunately I'm a member of two, but yes there are. 240 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: From a legal perspective, what they did in this show 241 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: trial was one hundred billion percent indefensible, also untrue, and 242 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: anyone out there, who was in the media that helped 243 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: to propagate these lies? And Buck, you know when we 244 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: were on the air, I was going through Twitter and 245 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: people were gleefully reacting to this and it's all a 246 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: lie based on people who were actually there and witnesses. 247 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: And again, the January sixth Committee, according to the Secret Service, 248 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: did not even reach out in the last ten days 249 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: before they allowed this bombshell witness to testify to corroborate 250 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: her comments in any way. 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Folks, the left, the media, they get 277 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: things wrong all the time and they don't care. They 278 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: don't care, doesn't matter to them. And a great example 279 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: this is Joe Scarborough over on MSNBC. He is saying 280 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: that Mark Meadows should get a lawyer in Mark Meadows 281 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: a Mark. I'm on you for a long time, buddy. 282 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: You're indeed, you're in the middle of this conspiracy you 283 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: may want to get yourself a really, really good criminal 284 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: defense attorney that is such a stupid Can we come 285 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: up with a bet that Mark Meadows is not going 286 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: to be criminally indicted, by the way, for what exactly? 287 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: Can we come up with something so that Joe Scarborough 288 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: has some skin in the game, because I know he 289 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: says this stuff Clay, because his MSNBC watching NPR audience 290 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: is obsessed with his conspiracy nonsense. It's not gonna happen. 291 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: And it's like these audiences don't even care. They're always 292 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: being lied to and they're all so dumb. I would 293 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: just say, and I don't know. I can't speak. I 294 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: don't know Joe Scarborough personally, so I don't I've never 295 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: met him either. I just know his work. I don't 296 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: know how intelligent or unintelligent he is. Does he have 297 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: a law degree? I don't know if he does. Hearsay 298 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: is complicated when you get into the exceptions right that 299 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: there are certain exceptions. 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By the way, I want 327 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: to put open phone lines specific callers here are lawyers 328 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: as blown away by this decision of the January sixth 329 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: Committee to allow her to testify to hear say as 330 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: I am one eight hundred two eight two two eight 331 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: eight two Cassidy Hutchinson, and also not do the bare 332 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: minimum of research to provide some element of corroboration report 333 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: from Politico that the Secret Service has not been contacted 334 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: in the last ten days and hear what. I just 335 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: want you to think about this. If you knew that 336 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: someone was going to testify to what Secret Service agents 337 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: had allegedly said happened inside of a vehicle, wouldn't the 338 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: first thing you would do, if you truly cared about 339 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: the truth at all, be to go to the Secret 340 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: Service agents and ask them for comment. I mean take 341 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: it outside of a court seating, because this wouldn't be 342 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: allowed in a typical trial because it's hearsay. If you 343 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: were just doing due diligence on behalf of your company 344 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: I used to do sexual harassment investigations. This would be 345 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: like me taking one side and not even attempting to 346 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: contact the other side to get their story. At the 347 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: most basic level, even of journalism, and we know there's 348 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: a lot of really rigged journalism that goes on, but 349 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: if someone tells you a story, the bare minimum you 350 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: could do is reach out to the person that they 351 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: told you the story about and say, hey, did you 352 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: say this? Does this comport with your recollections? What did 353 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: you see as the actual eyewitness? Instead, this January sixth 354 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: committee put on somebody testifying to what someone else had 355 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: said without even asking the people who had actually been there. 356 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: It would. You can hear it in my voice, Buck, 357 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: I was. I was researching this yesterday afternoon. I started 358 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: tweeting about it some as I had time, because this 359 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: was happening while we were on the air, so I 360 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: didn't spend much time, you know, in real time we 361 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: were on the air. I'm legitimately blown away that this 362 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: testimony occurred, that they and not to mention that they 363 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: made it bombshell that they called this special session to 364 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: allow this testimony. It's inexcusable, it's indefensible and Republicans, I think, 365 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: should almost start their own investigation of the January sixth 366 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: Committee when they win the House. It's not supposed to 367 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: be fair, right, it's supposed to be destructive. The whole 368 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: point of this isn't to get to some underlying truth. 369 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: This is a Trump is worse than Hitler infomercial for 370 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: emotionally unstable libs. That's what you're watching with these January 371 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: sixth hearings, day in and day out. There's nothing new 372 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: that we're learning of any consequence. And that's why. I mean, Clays, 373 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: you know, you've done criminal trials. If they had a 374 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: better shot than this, they would have taken it, right, 375 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if they actually had something after all of this, 376 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: they're all the investigation. Remember January sixth was eighteen months ago, 377 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: give or take now, right, I mean, you know we're 378 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: going way back. They've had a lot of time to prepare. 379 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: It's not like this was a few weeks ago. But 380 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: I also think at some level the Democrats what we're 381 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: seeing here, Yes, there's always incompetence and there's delusion. Right. 382 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's so hard whether whether you 383 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: think when you watch someone like a congressman Raskin. Is 384 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: he a delusional liar or a liar who has delusions? Right? Like? 385 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: Which which is it? Really? Does it really believe this BS? 386 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: Or is it just he's just feeding this to his 387 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: constituents knowing that it's all garbage and maybe he believes 388 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of it here and there. They have 389 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: no counter narrative about the Biden administration. I mean Steve Scalise, 390 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: for example, I think says it really well when he goes. 391 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: People aren't looking at this and saying, oh, yeah, this 392 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: is so important. They're saying, I can't afford gas. I 393 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: didn't watch the hearing. Of seeing some of the excerpts, 394 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: it looks like, you know, one more day of salacious headlines. 395 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: And already today we're seeing secret Service agents saying that 396 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: didn't happen. What was testified to and committee yesterday didn't 397 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: even happen. This is why Pelosi set this up from 398 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: day one to be a partisan committee of which on 399 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: just to keep going after Donald Trump, not to get facts. 400 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: She kicked Republicans off the committee. She didn't want the facts. 401 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: They just want to keep going after Trump. We're focused 402 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 1: on what we need to do to get the country 403 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: back on track. You go anywhere. I've been in three 404 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: states the last two days. What they're talking about. They're 405 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: angry about the border being open. They're angry about high 406 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: gas prices. They're angry about all these things that Joe 407 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: Biden and Nancy Pelosi won't address. We will when we 408 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: get the majority. Yeah, They're angry about things that actually matter. Yeah. 409 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 1: And the reality is the ratings came out yesterday. We 410 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: were talking about him for cable news in the second quarter. Basically, Buck, 411 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: CNN and MSNBC, as well as The New York Times 412 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: in the Washington Post need Donald Trump more than Fox 413 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: News and the Wall Street Journal do because their entire 414 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: worldview is based on Donald Trump being the devil. And 415 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: as soon as Donald Trump is off the stage, then 416 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: there's nothing that unites the Democrat Party. They have to 417 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: discuss the border being wide open, they have to discuss 418 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: murder rate skyrocketing eight point six percent, inflation, war in Europe, 419 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: and so instead they have these fake show trials. And 420 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: again I want to hear from other lawyers out there. 421 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: Are you as blown away that this could happen as 422 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: I am one two two two eight eight two. And 423 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: by the way, Buck did you see your boy? Jake 424 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: Tapper actually went after a Raskin when you were mentioning 425 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: is he a delusional liar or not? CNN. To his credit, 426 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: Jake Tapper said, wait a minute, did you guys have 427 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: any corroborating evidence at all? In order to put this 428 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: with this KATSI Cassidy Hutchinson on the stand and Raskin 429 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: couldn't even answer the question. And Joe Scarborough we were 430 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: talking about him earlier. He's a graduate of Law School, 431 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: University of Florida nineteen ninety according to our team, Well, 432 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: the Gators need to pull that diploma back because if 433 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: he's not able to analyze on his show, despite the 434 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: fact they pay a millions of dollars, this Cassidy Hutchinson 435 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: being hearsay and being immediately shot out of the air 436 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: by the actual witnesses in the vehicle. I just I'm 437 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: I know that I have a low standard already, Buck, 438 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: both of us do for media coverage of events, but 439 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: this was even below my incredibly low standard of them. 440 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: Let's just think of it. We can transition this for 441 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: just a second from the political realm to to a 442 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: straight up trial. This is not a trial it's Congress, 443 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: it's a it's a show trial in the old Soviet sense. 444 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: And this is the third one that's done two epeachments. 445 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: This is the third. This is what they love to 446 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: do that they can't stop with the theatrics. It's also 447 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: absurd if there was a shooting, Okay, if there was 448 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: a shooting and there were remember Secret Service were Ina enforcement. 449 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: There are cops on the scene who apparently witnessed the shooting. 450 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: Would you go to a you know, a friend of 451 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: one of the cops who said that they or would 452 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: you actually call the cops and say, did you see 453 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: the shooting? Obviously they are unserious in this process. It's 454 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: almost criminal in my mind that you could put this girl, 455 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: Cassidy Hutchinson, twenty five year old, and have her testify 456 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: without even attempting to corroborate what she was going to say. Now, 457 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: if you wanted to have her testify and say, well, 458 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: the Secret Service agents now are saying something different than 459 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: what they told her back in January, that's an argument 460 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: you could make. It wouldn't be admissible probably in a 461 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: court of law because it's hearsay. But in this show trial, okay, 462 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: maybe you could still allow it. They didn't even put 463 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: the Secret Service agents, who reportedly are willing to testify 464 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: under oath right now in front of the committee, and 465 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: the committee has a subpoena. The Committee subpoenaed every Republican 466 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: on the They subpoened Sean Hannity. I think, let's think 467 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: about this. You're a congressional investigator. You hear this story, 468 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: do you go to the Secret Service agents? Of course, 469 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: of course you actually cared about the truth, which is 470 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: why Buck I was using as an example I've done. 471 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: I used to do investigations internally for companies into sexual 472 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: harassment allegations, so I would have to talk to everyone 473 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: and then write up a report. This was not a 474 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: criminal or civil investigation. This was internal for the companies. 475 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: But if I didn't talk to every possible witness, I 476 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: would be doing a sham investigation. 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Lines open eight hundred two 514 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: eight two two eight eight two no best phone number, 515 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: Please do give it a ring like you can. Also 516 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: if your VIP email us at Clay and Buck dot com. 517 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: We love getting those emails and we are hoping we 518 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: can pull some together maybe on Friday. Some funny ones 519 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: you can weigh in on by way Clay. I haven't 520 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: checked recently, but as of this morning, with something like 521 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand votes in ending the men's neck tie as 522 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: a formal and businesswear convention with almost fifteen thousand votes 523 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: fifty fifty totally split. Some people like the tie, they 524 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: want to keep it. Some people think that tie like 525 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: me is something that we should say audios too. So 526 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: there's that one. And I know you got some summer, 527 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: isn't it so nice? So you had an like I 528 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: had two strangers say something nice to me. They said, 529 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: give him hell buck when I walked past. I was 530 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: with my girlfriend too, which ilways appreciate that when someone 531 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: say something nice, you don't make me look good in 532 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: front of the lady. They said give him hell buck 533 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: when I was just that was all they said. I 534 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: was walking past them in a Delta lounge in Miami. 535 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: You had an apparently a ladies say that the Travis 536 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: boys are perfectly well behaved. We went to dinner last night. 537 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: I had my seven year old my eleven year old 538 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: late dinner down here in Florida. Got in probably around 539 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: seven forty five, and I don't think the woman even 540 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: knew who I was, but we sure she didn't want 541 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: some titans to kids. We're sure about this. I don't 542 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: think she had any clothes, me and the two boys. 543 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: And at the end of the meal, she's probably middle age, 544 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: probably had if she has kids of her own, college age, 545 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: ish a little bit older than me. And she said, 546 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: your boys were basically fantastic. They were so well behaved 547 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: during this meal, and I just thought it was First 548 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: of all, it's always great to hear that when you 549 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: are a parent. A lot of parents out there know 550 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about. And second, the fact that 551 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: it happened right after we had that discussion yesterday on 552 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: the show about kid behavior in restaurants, I just couldn't 553 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't resist it with the timing on. It was phenomenal, 554 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: and my kids were fantastic, and I got em praised. 555 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: One thing about noticing when some kid is throwing a 556 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: monstrous tantrum in a restaurant, is that the next time 557 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: you see a child who is sitting there politely behaving themselves, 558 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: enjoying their spaghetti and meatballs or their grilled cheese off 559 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: the kid's menu, you're like, look at that well behaved 560 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: young lad or young lass. Airlines are the other place, buck, 561 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: I have been thrown up on in air two of 562 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: my three kids, like legitimately thrown up on maybe all three, 563 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: actually certainly two I might have blinked blacked out. I 564 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: think it has actually been all three. And when you 565 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: have had to travel with a kid, that is not 566 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: doing well on an airplane. You will never I remember 567 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: you by your own kid. I was like, wow, you 568 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: are really patient. Yeah. No, three, all three of my 569 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: kids at different points have thrown up on me in 570 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: the middle of an airplane flight, most recently about us 571 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: six months ago. That's true, love, Papa Travis. You know 572 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough to handle. By the way, we've 573 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: got a lot of lawyers weighing in who are also 574 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: as disgusted as I'm glad I'm not alone in this 575 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: from a legal perspective, A bunch of people weighing in, 576 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: Buck who who are lawyers? Let's start with Betty in Connecticut. 577 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: You're a former assistant attorney general. What did you think 578 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: about Cassidy? I'm outraged. I was an assistant Attorney general 579 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: for twenty eight and a half years in the child 580 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: protection unit here in Connecticut and thirty five years as 581 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: a trial lawyer. And the first thing I thought when 582 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: I heard this crap going on is who is in 583 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: charge here? There are lawyers on that committee. They know better. 584 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: They should be ashamed. He'd say, who be permitted in court? 585 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: And this just makes the whole thing a joke and 586 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, as you did, play, that the Bar associations, 587 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: who don't really have much hootspuss, should be doing more 588 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: about this kind of crap. I agree. I think Betty's right. 589 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: I think they also the odds she's fired up, like 590 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: the odds of any Democrat of that committee, even getting 591 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: a sternly awarded letter from the Bar Committee. I'd give 592 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: thousand to one odds against that. Karen is in Ohio, 593 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: She's an attorney and a magistrate. Here's cases every day. Karen, 594 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: what was your reaction when you heard Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony. Well, 595 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: my first reaction was shocked. Why in the world would 596 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: a witness be presented who is so far removed from 597 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: the actual event. Why not inquire of the witness who 598 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: was in the car with President Trump? Yes, the Secret 599 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: Service agents. It'd be pretty easy to find them. It's 600 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: not like we don't know who they are. If somebody 601 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: tried to do this in a hearing that you were 602 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: presiding over, what would your reaction be. My reaction would 603 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: be and I would stop the hearing, enquire of the 604 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: presenters of evidence, and say, why aren't you presenting testimony 605 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: from the person with direct knowledge. I'm not signing this 606 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: witness to be in credible and I'm telling you right 607 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: now it's missed the credibility of that evidence. And it 608 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: suggests a motive on the part of the presenters of 609 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: the evidence to put their to further their narrative, which 610 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: is not an accurate one, and as if they're putting 611 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: their sum on the scale of justice to try and 612 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: achieve a results that they want, not the results that 613 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: has anything to do with the truth. Absolutely, Karen's nailing it. Karen, 614 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: thank you so much for calling in Clay. I just 615 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: I just throw out an idea. I know we have 616 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: one more, call another another lawyer. But I do think 617 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: at some level the Democrats it's so sloppy and so 618 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: desperate because the January they know January six isn't gonna 619 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: it's not gonna they're all talking about they're gonna bring 620 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: charges against Trump. Really bring it, Libs, Let's see how 621 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: that goes for you. I think they're creating a psychological 622 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: safe space for Democrats going into an election they're going 623 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: to get annihilated on where they get to be the 624 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: heroes and Democrats are doing a lot and they're standing 625 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: up for a democracy. You know what that's really I 626 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: think this is just this narrative creation of safe space 627 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: for libs who can't look at the reality of gas prices, crime, 628 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: the border, inflation, etc. And that's what this is really 629 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: all about. It feels to me like such a hell 630 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: Mary But it's like you tried to get the snap 631 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: off without your team even lined up to protect your quarterback, 632 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: and the quarterback just got broken, right. I mean, it's 633 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: it's not even a hell Mary formation. It's beyond the 634 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: desperate level. He might have even gotten sacked in the 635 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: end zone for a safety play. Yeah, great sports and that. Yeah, 636 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: Matt in Mississippi. Matt, what's your thoughts on this when 637 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: you saw Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony As a lawyer, Well, my 638 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: thoughts are, if this were a civil matter, and you 639 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: have the Federal Rule of Civil Procedure number eleven, which 640 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: talks about how you know, when you sign your pleadings 641 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: or you file a complaint of some sort, you're making 642 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: a representation to the court if you have made an 643 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: inquiry that is reasonable unduder the circumstances. And now I 644 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: just hear say all day long in a complaint but 645 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: I am certifying to the Court that I have done 646 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: inquiry and then I have corroboration for that. Otherwise I would, 647 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I would be in violation of 648 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: Rule eleven. I mean it is a phenomenal point. I 649 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: think we have got to go to breaking and hear 650 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: the music playing us out. But I'm not alone by 651 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: the audience could be arguing front of the Supreme Court 652 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: and do very well. It's amazing. Fleet Travis and Buck 653 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: Sexton on the front lines of truth.