1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Cal's wee Can Review, presented by Steel Steel products are 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: available only at authorized dealers. For more, go to Steel 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Dealers dot com. Now here's your host, Ryan cal Callahan. 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: Investigators with the California Department of Fish and Wildlife are 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: trying to determine whether a club wielding mailman illegally killed 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: what one official described as quote the biggest turkey I 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: have ever seen. Someone has been feeding turkeys in the 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: West Sacramento neighborhood of Arden Arcade, and residents reported all 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: the way back in October that these birds have been 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: terrorizing mail carriers. It's unclear what's motivating this dislike of 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: postal workers, but one resident told local media that the 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: turkeys attack ups employees along with mail met. These brave 14 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: delivery drivers have tried kicking the birds, hitting them with 15 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: mail bags, and spraying them with pepper spray, but to 16 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: no avail. One mail carrier apparently decided to send a 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: message to those birds so they wouldn't forget. This person, 18 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: who officials have not yet identified, took a club or 19 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: stick and beat a thirty pound tom to death. They 20 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: left it on the side of the road, and Fish 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: and Wildlife officials came by later to pick it up. 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Foy of California Fish and Wildlife has been awarded 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: for twenty five years, and in an interview with local 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: media described it as the biggest turkey he'd ever seen. 25 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: As you might expect, the incident has divided the neighborhood. 26 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: Some think the turkey had it coming. Others said they 27 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: were quote just really upset. Investigators are asking for any 28 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: doorbell or security camera footage that might give them insight 29 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: into the incident. They're trying to figure out whether the 30 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: turkey was attacking the mail carrier when it got whacked, 31 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: in which case the carrier could claim self defense, or 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: whether the attack was more of a preemptive strike. I'm 33 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: no lawyer, but I have chased a few turkeys, and 34 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: guess what, if you're chasing them, they can't be caught 35 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: unless you have a shotgun, not a stick. Anyway, it's 36 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: legal in the state of California to kill an animal 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: in self defense as long as the action taken is 38 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: reasonably necessary to prevent serious harm or death and it's 39 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: not filmed on Instagram. If that's not what happened, this 40 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: person could run into trouble with both animal cruelty laws 41 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: and game regulations. California spring turkey season doesn't start until March, 42 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: and a stick or a club is definitely not a 43 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: legal means of take because the mayor never stops. It 44 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: just keeps coming and coming and coming. There's never a 45 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: let up. It's relentless. Every day that pile outs up 46 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: more and more and more than you come to get 47 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: it up, and the more you get out, the mark 48 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 1: keeps coming in and then they break to just clearing out. 49 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: This week we've got good bills, bad bills, and COVID deer. 50 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: But first I'm gonna tell you about my week. I 51 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: went down to Omaha, Nebraska, where this year's Pheasant and 52 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: Quail Forever Annual Meeting was held. Had a great time. 53 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: There was a bird dog parade, lots of shotguns, and 54 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: just want to say that I have never been so 55 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: happy to be in a room full of biologists, ecologists, 56 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: and soil experts. I learned a lot, met a ton 57 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: of new folks, and I'm just you know, looking forward 58 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: to return visit. It's in Minneapolis next year. Book your 59 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: tickets now, I don't think you can. If you do, 60 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: don't go through ticket Master. One of the highlights for 61 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: me was being able to have a bunch of questions 62 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: answered regarding the North American National Grasslands Conservation Act. Howard Vincent, 63 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: CEO of Pheasants and Quail Forever Lantani, CEO of b 64 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: h A, Joel Webster, Western VP of trc P, Sean 65 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: Grassel of the Buffalo Nations Grasslands Alliance, which is a 66 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: coalition of sixteen tribes, and Ted Cook, President of North 67 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: American Grouse Partnership. We're all excellent speakers, and I was 68 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: truly impressed by their passions for these incredibly important ecosystems. 69 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: Something to look forward to, the North American Grasslands Conservation Act. Ideally, 70 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: this is going to fit in between the Farm Bill 71 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: and the North American Wetlands Conservation Act. Dedicated funding for 72 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: the restoration and conservation of grasslands. Big bucks, tons of birds, 73 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: incredible biological diversity, pollinators come in this amazing package of huge, 74 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: drought tolerant, fire resistant, carbon sequestraing ecosystems, which is our grasslands. 75 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: This week, for our legislation update, we're bringing you important 76 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: new developments on some bills we've covered in weeks past. 77 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: First up, we've got Wyoming Bill s F six one, 78 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: which I for at the mouth about back in episode 79 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: You remember this one, the continuing the certification of Greater 80 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Sage grouse Farms, which allows in the street to get 81 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: off the hook for damage to grouse habitat by just 82 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: buying a bunch of birds and doing nothing for the habitat. 83 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: But we know that they just don't survive without the habitat, 84 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: and dumping them on the landscape to feed coyotes isn't 85 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: going to help the bird. As of March eleven, s 86 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: F six one had rocketed through the Wyoming legislature, passing 87 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 1: the House by forty four votes to fifteen and passing 88 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: the Senate one. That means that as of this recording, 89 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: the bill is on Governor Mark Gordon's desk waiting for 90 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: his signature or veto. By the time you hear this, 91 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: that bill may already be a law, but the game 92 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: isn't over until Gordon signs it. And wouldn't it be 93 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: fun to help him make the right decision? Called the 94 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: governor at three oh seven seven seven seven seven three 95 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: four and ask him to kindly veto s f six 96 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: one and do something for habitat if you know he 97 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: actually cares about restoring the Greater Sage grouse. Back in 98 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: episode one for six, we highlighted Kentucky HP three, which 99 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: would have removed the state's Department of Fish and Wildlife 100 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: from the executive branch and would have allowed the Department 101 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: of Agriculture to appoint four of the nine Fish and 102 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: Wildlife commissioners. Good news, as of March eight, that bill 103 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:22,119 Speaker 1: has been withdrawn. Idaho HB five zero seven allowing lighted 104 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: knocks and expandable broadheads. This one was signed by Governor 105 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: Brad Little on March seven. We're glad Idahoans can use 106 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: this technology now. However, we're pretty discouraged by the precedent 107 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,119 Speaker 1: of having this kind of change set down as law 108 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: rather than instituted as easily changed regulation. I'm waiting on 109 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: pins and needles to see what else big government can 110 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: do for Idaho hunters. We have a trio of wins 111 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: on legislation we covered in Vermont. Spe would have moved 112 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: control of the state Fish and Wildlife Board over to 113 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: the state legislature, which has shown itself to be very 114 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: anti hunting in the past. Sbe has been set aside 115 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: for this session, so although it's not fully dead, it 116 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: has been significantly slowed down and we'll have more time 117 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: to organize against it if it re emerges. Vermont Bill 118 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: s B to eight one was written as a full 119 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: ban on coyote hunting with hounds, but the bill has 120 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: now been significantly amended after input from the hunting community. 121 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: It now would impose a moratorium on hound hunting for 122 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: coyotes until Fish and Wildlife establishes new guidelines to resolve 123 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: conflict between hunters and landowners. One of the big issues 124 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: here has been hounds going on to private property and 125 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: raising a ruckus. Now, if the new SP two eight 126 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: one becomes law, hound hunters would need to get a permit, 127 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: but they would not be required to get prior written 128 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: permission from landowners. You might be getting the idea that 129 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: the evolution of this bill represents something almost unheard of 130 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: in contemporary political life, compromise. So we'll keep watching this 131 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: one with our fingers and as crossed. We might not 132 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: get absolutely everything we want, but sometimes making your voice 133 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: heard moves a bill towards a sane middle ground. Finally, 134 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: from the Green Mountain State, s B two zero one 135 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: set out to ban all foothold traps, no exceptions, but 136 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: the bill that came out of the Natural Resources and 137 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,119 Speaker 1: Energy Committee would only require trappers to follow National Best 138 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: Management Practices, or b MPs, which were written by the 139 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies in cooperation with trapping groups. 140 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: Most trappers already followed the b MPs, and the bill 141 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: gives all trappers time to get traps consistent with BMP guidelines. Again, 142 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: we don't know if it will pass, but it would 143 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: be a workable solution to a contentious issue. Two cheers 144 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 1: for Vermont. In Virginia, we are happy to report that 145 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: s B eight allowing Sunday hunting has passed both the 146 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: House and the Senate. Looks like that is set to 147 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: be signed, but called Governor Young ken at eight oh 148 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: four seven eight six to two one one, just to 149 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: be safe, say hey, appreciate what you're doing. Also in Virginia, 150 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: two bills looking to limit the right to retrieve of 151 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: hound hunters died in committee. HB one three three one 152 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: would have suspended anyone with a trespassing conviction from right 153 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: to retrieve for five years, and HB one three four 154 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: four would have required you to attempt to notify landowners 155 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: before going on to their property to retrieve a dog 156 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: if contact info was posted. The sponsor of the failed bills, 157 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: Republican Delegate James Edmonds, said quote, this is not the 158 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: rural Virginia of fifty years ago. There is a higher 159 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: sensitivity today for private property rights than in years past. 160 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: Just as in Vermont, dogs near private property get you 161 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: into conflict. We'll see how that conflict is managed in 162 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: the years to come. Gosh, still seems like being a 163 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: good neighbor would go a long way. M hmm. Iowa 164 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: Bill SP three one three four, which would end Iowa's 165 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: ability to put land into conservation easement by reducing the 166 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: amount the state could pay to a fraction of what 167 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: the land is worth. That bill passed out of the 168 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: Natural Resources and Environmental Committee and has now changed number 169 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: to s F two three one two. The change in 170 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: the bill number makes it harder to keep track of. 171 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: I hope that's not intentional. S F two three one 172 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: two is now on the calendar for a full legislature vote. 173 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: So call your reps and make a stink about s 174 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: F two three one two. Habitat and wildlife would take 175 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: a major hit in Iowa if this one passes and 176 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: it puts those private property rights, the right to do 177 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: with our land what we want in a real pinch, 178 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, I can go on free market economy, folks, 179 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: So don't let that one slide. That's it for our 180 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: where they now segment up next British Columbia. A two 181 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: thousand only one legal ruling established that the province had 182 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: infringed on the Treaty eight rites of the Blueberry River 183 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: First Nations People by allowing industrial development to damage the forest, lands, 184 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: water fish and wildlife of the area. We have no 185 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: issue with the court ruling, but new regulations being introduced 186 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: as a remedy to the violation our way off base. 187 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: The BC government has proposed closing all caribou hunting in 188 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: Regions seven B and establishing a limited entry hunt for moose, 189 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: which seeks to reduce moose harvest by fifty percent. Other 190 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: similar restrictions we've covered in the past target nonresident hunters, 191 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: but these rules in Regions seven B specifically limit resident 192 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,239 Speaker 1: hunting opportunity. You may notice a bit of a mismatch 193 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: between diagnosis and solution here. How does ending hunts address 194 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: habitat damage caused by industry, how does it restore that habitat. 195 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: BC's own data shows healthy populations of both moose and 196 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: cariboo in this area, and current hunting seasons and limits 197 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: have had no demonstrable impacts on the populations of these animals. 198 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: How does ending hunts address a treaty violation? The comment 199 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: period for these proposals ends on March twenty three, that 200 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: is three short days from now. BC back Country Hunters 201 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: and Anglers has a great right up on this issue 202 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: and the link to the province form where you can 203 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: register your opposition. Pause this podcast now navigate over to 204 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: the website of the British Columbia Chapter of back Country 205 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: Hunters and Anglers and get your name on record against 206 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: the proposed changes to the Peace Regions seven B hunting regulations. 207 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: Big thanks to Hunter Mayor and Jason Hatter for writing 208 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: in about that one. A recent study from Brigham Young 209 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: University has confirmed the intelligence of ungulates during honey season. 210 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: Elk move away from hunting pressure on public land to 211 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: the safety of private land. The b y U team 212 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: captured four forty i've elk and the Washsatch Mountains in 213 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: central Utah starting in two thousand fifteen, and gave each 214 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: of them a GPS collar that reports its position every 215 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: thirteen hours. The scientists then washed what happened when the 216 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: hunter showed up. Rock McMillan, senior author on the study, said, quote, 217 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: it's crazy. On the opening day of the hunt, they 218 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: move and on the closing day they moved back. By 219 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: the height of rifle hunting season, time spent by elk 220 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: on public land decreased by over then rebounded to normal 221 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: after the season ended. You might be tempted to file 222 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: this one under in for no crap. Many of you 223 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: have come to this same conclusion with unpunched tags as 224 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: your data set, and in fact, this phenomenon, known as 225 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: the refuge effect, has been well documented for years. But 226 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: what makes the b YU study relevant for you is 227 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: what happened when a key variable changed. You See, in 228 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen, before private land hunting permits were granted 229 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: in the study area, elk spent only of their time 230 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: on public land. After hunters were granted access to private land, 231 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: elk spent forty two percent of their time on public land. 232 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: Wherever they're elk, they're often the same complainants, All these 233 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: hunters are chasing the damn elk away. All these damn 234 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: elk are coming onto my private property and eating me 235 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: out of house at home. So this study gives key 236 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: scientific support for states expanding programs like Montana's block management system, 237 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: which gives hunters more access to private land while compensating 238 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: landowners for that access. The study also demonstrates that private 239 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: land hunting will also make the hunting better on public land. 240 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: So if your state does not have a program like 241 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: this where public can get access to private land, or 242 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: you think that program could be expanded, call up your 243 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: fishing Game agency and tell them to go read Reducing 244 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: the Refuge Effect in the February two thowy two issue 245 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: of the Journal of Wildlife Management, and then follow up 246 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: with these people and make sure that they know that 247 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: it's public access to private ground that actually like causes 248 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: the elk to run back onto public ground because there's 249 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: many ways to hunt on private ground that can you know, 250 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: hoard the elk instead of move the elk moving on 251 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: to the toxic avenger desk. We've known about deer infected 252 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: with COVID since last summer, but scientists in Canada recently 253 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: turned up what might be the first case of a 254 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: deer passing COVID to a person. Last fall, researchers swabbed 255 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: the noses of three hundred white tales killed by hunters 256 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: near London, Ontario. Six percent of those deer tested positive 257 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: for COVID, which blows my mind. I mean, a lot 258 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: of cities closed schools when the human case rate hit three. 259 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: These deer obviously didn't follow quarantine protocols. Anyway, their surprises 260 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: kept on coming. The genetic signature of this particular COVID 261 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: mutation was very unusual. When they compared this infection to 262 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: human cases in the same area over the same time span, 263 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: they turned up a person with this same extremely unusual 264 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: COVID mutation who had been in proximity to deer, which 265 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: seems to suggest that the servants infected the human. It 266 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: turns out that very similar variants had also turned up 267 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: two years ago in mink and humans in Michigan, right 268 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: next door to London, Ontario. Although the sample sizes are 269 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: too small to document the exact means of transmission, it 270 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: seems likely that mink and deer in this case served 271 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: as so called reservoir species catching COVID from people developing 272 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: unusual variations and then passing it back. We know that 273 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: the mink and question were captive mink, and it seems 274 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: very probable that the deer in question in the Ontario 275 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: case were part of a captive operation as well. The 276 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: captive deer may have spread this variant to this one 277 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: person as well as to a lot of their wild kin. 278 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: This kind of back and forth transmission from people to animals, 279 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: to livestock back again is actually very common avian flu, 280 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: swine flu ebola, you name it, and maybe one day 281 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: the c w D will as well. So because of this, 282 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: it is probable that it won't just be the CDC 283 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: tracking COVID, it will be the U s d A 284 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: and quite possibly the US Fish and Wildlife Service as well. 285 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: But you know, maybe if you're a beef producer, you'll 286 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: get a couple of extra bucks a pound for that 287 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 1: certified COVID free prime rip. Yeah. Moving on to the 288 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: farm desk. I bet you didn't think I'd be able 289 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: to work the war in Ukraine into a podcast about hunting, fishing, 290 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: and conservation. Well think again. The ongoing war is raising 291 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: the cost of food in many parts of the world, 292 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: and some have proposed farming conservation land in the United 293 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: States to address those concerns. Ukraine is one of the 294 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: world's bread baskets. Russia and Ukraine together account for of 295 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: global exports of wheat, nine of global corn, and eight 296 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: of global sunflower oil. Needless to say, much of that 297 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: production is on hold, and according to The New York Times, 298 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: the war could have a significant impact on the world's 299 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: food supply. In the short term, the war will have 300 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: a disastrous effect on the countries that rely on Ukraine 301 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: for much of their grain. This includes impoverished countries like Bangladesh, Sudan, 302 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: and Pakistan, as well as richer countries like Egypt and Turkey. 303 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: But as we've learned over the last two years, supply 304 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: chains are global. A loss of one of the world's 305 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: bread baskets will have far reaching, unpredictable consequences, which is 306 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: why some economists are pushing the United States to increase 307 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: crop production here at home. Here's where this issue intersects 308 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: with habitat conservation. Thanks to listener Taylor for sending this story. 309 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: In University of Illinois, agriculture economist Scott Irwin is pushing 310 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: the by an Administration to increase crop production by farming 311 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: the twenty one million acres currently enrolled in the Conservation 312 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: Reserve Program. The Conservation Reserve Program was established in ninety 313 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: five with the primary goal of reducing soil erosion on 314 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: highly irrodable crop land in curbing the production of surplus commodities. Essentially, 315 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: the program pays farmers not to farm their land for 316 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen years in order to give the land 317 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: a chance to rest and to control crop prices and 318 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: reduce erosion. But the program also has several secondary goals. 319 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: According to the United States Department of Agriculture, one of 320 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: those goals is fostering wildlife habitat, and it's been incredibly successful. 321 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: A two thousand one survey of program participants found that 322 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: seventy three of respondents had observed positive changes in wildlife populations. 323 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: That same year, the US Fish and Wildlife Service published 324 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: a study that estimated that CRP accounted for two million 325 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: additional ducks per year between in the Prairie Pothole region, 326 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: North Dakota, South Dakota, and eastern Montana. In two thousand five, 327 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: a Northern bobwhite Quail Initiative was established within the program, 328 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: which reserved two hundred and fifty thousand acres for enrollment 329 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: of upland bird nesting and brood rearing habitat buffers. The 330 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: CRP added three hundred thousand acres to waterfowl and upland 331 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: bird conservation initiatives in two thousand ten, and the two 332 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: thousand fourteen Farm Bill included up to ten million in 333 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: incentive payments to encourage thinning of CRP tree stands to 334 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: improve wildlife habitat. CRP lands not only help preserve habitat, 335 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: hunters also have an opportunity to hunt millions of these acres, 336 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: and you may have had the chance to pursue whitetail grouse, turkeys, 337 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: big fat mule deer, bucks, antelope on private land and 338 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: rolled in the CRP system. Despite these benefits to the 339 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: environment and the outdoor community, Irwin believes we should start 340 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: farming CRP land immediately. He believes the Russian Ukraine War 341 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: will be the biggest supply shock to global grain markets 342 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: in my lifetime, and he argues that farming CRP is 343 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: the only policy lever the US government can use to 344 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: avoid this catastrophe. Right now, there's no reason to panic 345 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: as far as I'm aware no federal politician has floated 346 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: this idea. For his part, Irwin is not proposing CRP 347 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: lands be farmed in perpetuity. He proposes issuing an emergency 348 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: rule that only applies to two thousand twenty two that 349 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: would allow farmers to farm their CRP land without any 350 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: interruption to their CRP payments. I'm no farmer, but it 351 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: strikes me as unlikely that many farmers would take that risk. 352 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: Rising crop prices might make it attractive, but turning wild 353 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: landscapes into farmable land doesn't happen overnight. It's already March, 354 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: so I'm doubtful many outfits would be able to take 355 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: advantage of this nine month opportunity. Not to mention, the 356 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: cost of fertilizer and diesel fuel make this, you know, 357 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: risky business. Still, if the predictions of economists come true 358 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: and the war rages on, politicians will start looking around 359 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: for ways to address the rising cost of food. Some 360 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: of those proposals might impact the land we hunt and 361 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: the critters we pursue. If they do, maybe we can 362 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: suggest not turning amazing agricultural ground into big, ghastly, god awful, 363 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: water sucking habitat destroying condominiums. That's all I've got for 364 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: you this week. Thank you so much for listening. 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