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Speaker 3: That's right, and happy New Year. It's all you guys

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Speaker 4: a pretty good show so far. All right, that's my

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Speaker 3: Well, you know I care two podcasts. I don't nobody

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Speaker 4: You, box set after the World a lot, and I'm

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Speaker 4: in that place right now. On day one of twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty six. That's where I've had already. This has been

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Speaker 4: a terrible year. No, we're off on here, We're good.

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Speaker 4: Coming up later next segment, we got Jeff Schwartz to

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Speaker 4: join the show Football Analysts. We'll talk college football with him.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk NFL football with him.

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Speaker 2: Gots talk about his Oregon Ducks man, big game coming up?

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Speaker 4: What about my Orgon Ducks here, Kevin, come.

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Speaker 3: On, with all due respect him, he actually, you know,

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Speaker 3: suited up and wore the color.

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Speaker 4: What's the difference?

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Speaker 2: Sweat and got injured and played.

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Speaker 4: I have a friend that was born in Oregon, didn't

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Speaker 4: go to the university, but I have just as much

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Speaker 2: I am mistaken, you're right. Matter of fact, you're more

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Speaker 2: of a duck than Jeff Schwartz could ever be.

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Speaker 4: Come on, Jeff Schwartz, Joey Harrington, I am all about

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Speaker 4: that duck life, Me and puddles. All right, let's get

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Speaker 4: to it.

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Speaker 2: College football forecast with F and.

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Speaker 4: A Oh Kevin. Speaking of the Ducks, they are favored

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Speaker 4: by point and a half over Texas Tech and the

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Speaker 4: Capitol One Orange Bowl coming up just mere hours from now.

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Speaker 2: They are and I think they should be. I mean

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Speaker 3: Like, as good as Texas Tech has been, especially defensively this.

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Speaker 2: Year, offensively they could be a little shaky.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: Grant you can say the only loss that they had

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Speaker 3: earlier in the year against Arizona State is when they're

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Speaker 3: starting quarterback Baron Morton was injured, and that is true.

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Speaker 3: But offensively, this is not the Mike Leech Texas Tech

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Speaker 3: or anything like that. They're good, They're very good, but

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Speaker 3: as much talk as Texas Tech's defense gets, people sleep

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Speaker 3: why that happens to be the case. They play in

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Speaker 3: a better conference against better competition. This is no hate

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Speaker 3: good team. But ultimately I know they beat them twice,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think Oregon should be favored in this

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Speaker 4: I might go Doctor Evil with this as well. How

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Speaker 4: And I think that was the initial heisman moment from

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Speaker 4: But this Oregon team has a different level of focus

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Speaker 4: To me, I just feel like I know it's a

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Speaker 4: to get back to this point. It's something I've heard

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Speaker 2: Every single week from not for whatever reason.

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Speaker 4: Once in a while he went thirty six and forty

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Speaker 4: It happens to the best of us, even Joel Klatt.

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Speaker 4: But this Ducks team, their season starts now. It feels

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Speaker 4: like twenty eight to nothing in the first quartern baking.

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Speaker 4: They have been waiting for this moment to make up

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Speaker 4: and they're just more dynamic on the offensive side of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian and a couple of others, And a big

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Speaker 3: thing for them is the fact that, yes, they're great

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Speaker 2: They have like a five headed monster at running back.

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Speaker 3: To be honest with you, there's really even though Whittington

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Speaker 2: And I know Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: Is dynamic the I know that they spread it around

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Speaker 4: Cool.

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Speaker 3: You think Dante Moore, who's being talked about it as

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Speaker 2: He wants something that deep ball thrower in the league.

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Speaker 3: That's something that Oregon has that Texas Techa just hasn't

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Speaker 3: You can only play who's on the schedule. So I'm

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Speaker 3: not faulting them for who they've played, but you have

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I don't I'm not gonna say, I don't think. I

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Speaker 3: know they have not faced a passing attack that can

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Speaker 3: even if Texas Tech is going to continue to be

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Speaker 3: Oregon can win this game. That wouldn't bother me at all.

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Speaker 3: And if that gets to a point, Adam, My thing

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Speaker 3: know if Texas Tech, even as good as they are defensively,

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Speaker 3: can slow down this Oregon offense enough. The problem is,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Texas Tech's offense can score enough

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Speaker 3: a Orgon's everything like thirty nine points a game or something,

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Speaker 3: a down game for them will be thirty one points.

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Speaker 3: My confident that Texas Tech can score thirty one points

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Speaker 3: offensively against his Oregon defense, I don't know if they can.

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Speaker 4: It's strength versus strength with Oregon's running game against Tech,

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Speaker 4: who is giving up the fewest yards per carry in

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Speaker 4: college football, just two point three. Oregon's over six.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned they kind of do it by committee with

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Speaker 4: we saw tonight, But I do expect a higher scoring

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Speaker 4: game possibility with Oregon in Texas Tech. But you're right,

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Speaker 4: if it's a game played in his thirties, advantage Oregon.

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Speaker 4: If Texas Tech is slowing them down, it's a close

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Speaker 4: game like that. It's like we haven't seen Oregon come

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Speaker 4: through in those situations though. Either against Iowa, Dante Moore

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Speaker 4: They're the one that could go out and win the

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Speaker 4: whole damn thing. That's how I feel. And maybe i'm biased,

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Speaker 4: damn because I'm almost from there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're almost from there, okay, And that's a

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Speaker 4: I'll say, visited Eugene once for the people.

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Speaker 3: There, And I know Dan Lanning was really heated after

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Speaker 3: if they do this against a good team, they're gonna

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Speaker 3: end up losing. Guys realizing the second half Oregon pulled

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Speaker 3: all of their starters. Yeah, and James Madison did not.

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Speaker 3: They did not give up. They kept all their starters

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Speaker 3: third stringers playing against James Madison's ones, and that's why

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: And it's not to get a little bit complacent out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're asking guys to come off the bench, you

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Speaker 3: have an edge with knowing that they're up by thirty

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Speaker 3: the starters actually perform against Texas Tech.

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Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this though. If Oregon loses the game, Ohio

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Speaker 4: looking at the Big Ten a little bit sideways and

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Speaker 5: to the highest rates thing on television. And some of

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Speaker 5: these bowls with the good teams are really good. They've

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Speaker 5: been good both obviously USC TCU. Right was that last night?

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Speaker 5: Now you know there was a game earlier today with

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Speaker 5: Iowa and Vanderbilt. That was good. I mean, these are

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Speaker 5: good Bowl games, Like they're fun to watch now, Look,

445
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Speaker 5: is a law of tech Southern miscreat? Not really, but

446
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Speaker 5: there had some really good Bowl games when the better

447
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Speaker 5: teams start start playing them. So I don't think it's

448
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Speaker 5: going anywhere. You know, are they going to move the

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Speaker 5: Holiday Bowl out of Mobile and the Live Quest Bowl,

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Speaker 5: which I think used to be when it used to

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Speaker 5: be called Sintrids Bowl. Maybe no, it's not the Six's Bowl.

452
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Speaker 5: I think whatever. Like you know, those those games might

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Speaker 5: be not playoff games, but I still think it matters.

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Speaker 5: Look for ninety percent of teams, making a Bowl game

455
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Speaker 5: is still a big deal, right, It's extra practice, you

456
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Speaker 5: get to swag, you know, going to different Now guys

457
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Speaker 5: have nil money, but you know, the free gifts were

458
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Speaker 5: like in pretum was like awesome, like a month of

459
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Speaker 5: pre diem and free gifts and so those things were

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Speaker 5: things we look forward to. And I still think that

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Speaker 5: a lot of more competitive they want to play in

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Speaker 5: these games, and they've been good for the most parts.

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Speaker 5: You get sort of near you know, near the new year,

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Speaker 5: when the better teams are playing.

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Speaker 4: We got Jeff Schwartz on with us on the f

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Speaker 4: and a takeover the Ben Mallors Show. Happy New Year, everyone,

467
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Speaker 4: So let's move up to the big leagues. You obviously

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Speaker 4: played there for almost a decade, Jeff. And look, I

469
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Speaker 4: want to know your opinion on this NFC or AFC

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Speaker 4: North matchup. I should say, between John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 4: who do you think is under more pressure to win

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Speaker 4: this game and get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: Ooh, I think it's Tomlin because they were the favorite

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Speaker 5: like minus like seven fifty two weeks ago. And it

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Speaker 5: sounds like Lamar is going to play right. He practiced today,

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Speaker 5: I believe, or a leave it. He was looked at

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Speaker 5: as as participating.

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Speaker 2: Well, participating degree yeah, full practice is what I last saw.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, and I think today it's more like by

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Speaker 5: the time of the year, it thought very walk through

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Speaker 5: issh on Friday on Wednesday. But I still like that

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Speaker 5: he's out there. I think if I'll pitch it their

483
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Speaker 5: home first of all, right, their home and they're they're

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Speaker 5: going to blow this lead, this division lead. And there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of smoke on Tomlin right now, like he

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Speaker 5: he doesn't want to playoff games with twenty sixteen. Are

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Speaker 5: they gonna except a nine to eight year and a

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Speaker 5: collapse at that very end to sort of better rival Harbaugh.

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Speaker 5: You know, they've had a sort of a bad year

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Speaker 5: with injuries, and there's obviously a little bit of maybe

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Speaker 5: something between you know, him and Lamar And I think

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Speaker 5: it's firmly on the Steelers, man. I think the Steelers

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Speaker 5: have got to be the one who win this game,

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Speaker 5: or there'd be questions about whether or not Tom that's

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Speaker 5: coming back.

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Speaker 3: How about a division you know extremely well, and that

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Speaker 3: being the NFC South, the Carolina Panthers taking on the

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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the Buccaneers at the start of

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Speaker 3: the season, Jeff, people were talking about Baker Mayfield being

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Speaker 3: the MVP. They got off to that five and one

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Speaker 3: start and then it's all come crashing down. I guess

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Speaker 3: do you think how much pressure do you think is

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Speaker 3: on Todd Bowles and do you think that his job

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Speaker 3: might be on the line if Tampa Bay does not

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Speaker 3: find a way to win the division here? And also

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Speaker 3: just talk about your Carolina Panthers too, by the way,

507
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Speaker 3: and how they've surprised a lot of people to even

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Speaker 3: be in this position at the end of the regular

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Speaker 3: season at this point.

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Speaker 5: I don't like chaos in my life very much, but

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Speaker 5: I do enjoy it. I do enjoyed every now and then.

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Speaker 5: And in this situation is obviously the Panthers lose to

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Speaker 5: the Bucks, so they're eight and nine, the Bucks are

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Speaker 5: eight and nine. The Falcons beat the Saints on Sunday,

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Speaker 5: and then the Panthers go to the playoffs as they

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Speaker 5: are three way times for eight and nine say the

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Speaker 5: tie break because that is the chaos scenario. But I

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Speaker 5: think that's gonna be avoy because the Panthers are gonna

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Speaker 5: win on Sunday. I was always Taeday, she started afternoon. Look,

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Speaker 5: Tampa Bay's lost seven of eight and they have not

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Speaker 5: been very good losses, right, And it feels like Todd Bowles,

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Speaker 5: he's done a great job. They've been competitive for so

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Speaker 5: many years. It's just wearing off, right, His message is

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Speaker 5: wearing off. The team's older, a little bit hurt, a

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Speaker 5: little beat up, and they're not having the impact that

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Speaker 5: he used to have. And I think winner losing this game,

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Speaker 5: that's probably it. It's probably it for him as the coach.

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Speaker 5: And it looks eventually it just runs this course. It

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Speaker 5: doesn't mean that he can't beat a head coach somewhere else,

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Speaker 5: or that he's not good coach anymore. But you lose

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Speaker 5: seven of eight like this, and their Falcons losses and

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Speaker 5: Saintans losses and Dolphins losses like these are losses that

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Speaker 5: you favored in right and and oftentimes like it wasn't

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Speaker 5: close against its all, but they were down ten points

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Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, I believe. So those losses add up,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I just think it's time to find

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Speaker 5: a new coach. Might be time to move off Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 5: And you know he know he's been hurt this year

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Speaker 5: with the shoulder and he's non throwing his shoulder. I

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Speaker 5: think has been has been a little jacked up. But

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Speaker 5: still it's just it's still a good way to end

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Speaker 5: in Carolina. Though they've won, they've one loss ten weeks

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Speaker 5: in a row, I think, which is kind of wild.

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Speaker 5: They have just been very consistent when when they're good,

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Speaker 5: they've been really good. Packers win, beat the Rams, beat

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Speaker 5: the Bucks two weeks ago, and they lost us and

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Speaker 5: we didn't play well. I was starting to play better

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Speaker 5: on Satday. It's been their pattern for ten weeks now.

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Speaker 4: Jeff been looking at the other game Saturday night is

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Speaker 4: for the number one overall seed in the NFC between

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Speaker 4: the San Francisco forty nine Ers and the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 4: Who do you think needs the number one seed in

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Speaker 4: the buy more between these two teams in order to

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Speaker 4: make it out of the NFC.

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Speaker 5: Oh, who needs it more? Probably the Niners with their

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Speaker 5: defense needs it more. My NFC champion is probably the

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Speaker 5: team who wins this game. I mean, you have such

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Speaker 5: an advantage having that one other that one week off. Man.

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Speaker 5: You know, the Niners offense has just been so good

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Speaker 5: with Brock Purdy this last month, it's been He's been

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Speaker 5: so good. But the defense there, they lost too many

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Speaker 5: in rushers, they lost Fred Warner. It's just not good enough.

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Speaker 5: And I can't get enough stops and they have one

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Speaker 5: way to win games, and so one less game, I

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Speaker 5: think we get them, you know, in that situation. Kyle

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Speaker 5: Shand has an incredible job this year, guys, he really has.

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Speaker 5: With Seattle. I just don't trust Stan Darnold. I mean

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Speaker 5: it's kind of that simple. And you know, if he

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Speaker 5: had one left game, you feel much better about him.

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Speaker 5: But I just don't think like Donold is the guy

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Speaker 5: to lead this team to like the promise land. So,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I use this analogy all the time. Roger

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Speaker 5: Goodell is handing them a Bardi trail off to someone

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Speaker 5: at the end of Super Bowl what is it this

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Speaker 5: year fifty seven or whatever it is? And is that

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Speaker 5: quarterback Sam Donald is he's seeing the trophy with Sam Donald?

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Speaker 5: Like the trophy has been held? Is the handed to

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Speaker 5: Jalen Hurst, Patrick Mahomes, Stafford and Tom Brady for like

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Speaker 5: eight straight seasons? Like it is it really going to

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Speaker 5: to Sam Donald? I just can't see that Can Soldier

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Speaker 5: as a picture of that. You're going to Sam Donald,

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Speaker 5: obviously going to brock Perdy. I can't see one to

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Speaker 5: Sam Donald. So maybe that's a super unfair way to

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Speaker 5: look at it. But think about who's won the last

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Speaker 5: I mean it's been it's been Eagles. It's been basically

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Speaker 5: Tom Brady, two Eagles Chiefs, and one Stafford. So like

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Speaker 5: the last ten seasons basically right since twenty sixteen, That's

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Speaker 5: that's who's who's one. Like, it makes sense when you

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Speaker 5: think about who's going up the trophy the end of season.

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Speaker 5: Nick Folds one obviously is a little bit weird, but

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Speaker 5: the Eagles were so good that season. But otherwise, man,

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Speaker 5: I just I don't think it with Donald so a

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Speaker 5: big game for him Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: So Jeff, how about the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Can you envision Josh Allen raising the trophy now that

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Speaker 3: he does not have the hurdle of someone like Patrick

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Speaker 3: Mahomes stopping him.

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Speaker 2: But Buffalo's had their issues this year.

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Speaker 3: They've been inconsistent, They've been unable to stop the run,

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Speaker 3: and have struggled defensively at times and have a dearth

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Speaker 3: of talent offensively when it comes to weapons for Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: Do you see a possibility that Josh Allen puts on

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Speaker 3: his cape and carries them to a potential Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: championship this year?

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Speaker 2: Out of the AFC.

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Speaker 5: The AFC is the hardest one for me because the

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Speaker 5: NFC has Stafford has pretty like Jalen Hurts. It's got

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Speaker 5: guys where you're just like, you know they've either done

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Speaker 5: it before or you know they put good film on,

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Speaker 5: you know, and you know they can do it. The

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Speaker 5: AFC again, like it has the faulty to having a

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Speaker 5: buy I mean, Denver I think is in line for

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Speaker 5: the buye right because the Chargers are resting everyone and

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Speaker 5: they just have to win this weekend and they're and

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Speaker 5: they had to buy I mean, it's one less game, man,

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Speaker 5: Like it's so important. Think about you know, the two

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Speaker 5: seed Patriots are having to play Buffalo and they're having

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Speaker 5: to play maybe Jacksonville and then having to play the Broncos.

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Speaker 5: The Broncos might get you know, the Chargers beat up Chargers,

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Speaker 5: they might get you know, a Bill's team that can't

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Speaker 5: play any defense. Like, it's one less game. So I

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Speaker 5: have to fall to the Denver in this situation. You know,

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Speaker 5: Bowe Nicks has been a little bit better. If Houston

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Speaker 5: had one home game, I'd feel great. But they're just

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Speaker 5: not going to have a home game and they're not winning.

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Speaker 5: Three rugans at offensive line. Every team in the in

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Speaker 5: the in the East has some In the East, AFC

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Speaker 5: is something that could be feels like a fatal flaw,

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Speaker 5: where like, yeah, they can do it, but they have

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Speaker 5: to avoid doing that bad thing for an entire week.

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Speaker 4: Last one, for me, Jeff, did Matt Stafford lose the

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Speaker 4: MVP of that performance against Atlanta?

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Speaker 5: I think this discussion is so silly to me. A

634
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Speaker 5: guy is a heavy favorite to an MVP he has

635
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Speaker 5: one bad half after he threw for four hundred and

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Speaker 5: fifty yards on the road in Seattle. And now Drake

637
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Speaker 5: made the MVP. So the award is essentially best player

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Speaker 5: in the final game of the season. Like that, that's

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Speaker 5: what the award has become. Drake Mays had a good season.

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Speaker 5: It's the easiest schedule in the NFL. They've didn't one

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Speaker 5: team in the NFL I think win to me, not

642
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Speaker 5: one team they did in thirteen. They didn't one team

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Speaker 5: with a winning record as of right now, and of

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Speaker 5: course you know that that might change with some results

645
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Speaker 5: of this past weekend or is up cooming we guy should say,

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Speaker 5: but Stafford's done it better job with injuries to Davonte

647
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Speaker 5: Adams with a much tougher schedule. I think it's Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's Drake May. Now Oswood say otherwise,

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Speaker 5: and I'm not sure. I think actually three awards come

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Speaker 5: down to this weekend. MVP, Offensive Workdie of the Year,

651
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Speaker 5: and Coach of the Year will all come down to

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Speaker 5: this weekend, which I get Coached the Year because that's

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Speaker 5: simply like you know, if Shanahan wins the one seed,

654
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Speaker 5: I could see him getting it. Raybel wins the two

655
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Speaker 5: seeds like sevens a little bit of sense. Otherwise, other awards,

656
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 5: what does it matter if tet Roy McMillan has a

657
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 5: big game like that, he has a big game with Telly,

658
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 5: he wins the award, But what means Okay, why one

659
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 5: game would matter that much? Like if the award is

660
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Speaker 5: for the season, in my opinion or for a chunk

661
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Speaker 5: of time, it's not for I played best in the

662
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Speaker 5: final game.

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Speaker 3: Of the season, last one for you, Jeff, before we

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Speaker 3: let you run. Because another organization, you know, well as

665
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs. Your brother played there for years

666
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: and a lot of people are talking.

667
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: About the dynasty is now over.

668
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: They got eliminated from the postseason, and Mahomes is injured,

669
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Speaker 3: and I mean, as far as I know, he's still

670
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: coming back next year, and Andy Reid is still there.

671
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they need to do a little bit of retooling.

672
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: But is it food for people to.

673
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Speaker 3: Say that the Kansas City And I know the AFC

674
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Speaker 3: West is improving with the Danver Broncos and the Chargers,

675
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Speaker 3: but people are basically just throwing dirt on the Kansas

676
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Speaker 3: City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: And I don't really understand it. Jeff, where do you

678
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: sit on that narrative?

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Speaker 5: Oh? People hate dynasties for some reason. I just like

680
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 5: watching good teams play. It's just so funny. Like people

681
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 5: are like, how I like the underdog. I'm like, do you?

682
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 5: Because we get the ratings for TV when Underdog's play,

683
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 5: no one watches them play. I don't want you want

684
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 5: like people watch Cowboys Chiefs play, They're not watching Jacksonville,

685
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 5: Tennessee play like congratulations on being under I don't get

686
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 5: I just don't get at it people loved. I'd rather

687
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 5: watch the Chiefs play and watch you know, the best

688
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 5: quarterback in football, player Josh Allen, player Joe Burrow play

689
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 5: in the playoffs. They being out kind of sticker rather

690
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 5: be in the postseason. The Chiefs the number one thing

691
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: they have to do. And so I can't answer the

692
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 5: question now until I see who they hire to be

693
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Speaker 5: the offensive coordinator. If they Matt Naggy I think will

694
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 5: be head coach. It's time for Andy Wait to branch out.

695
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 5: He needs to get someone from a different coaching tree.

696
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 5: I'd love to get him some sort of Shanahan McVeigh

697
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: type and just update the offense. The thing about the

698
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Speaker 5: Shanagan offense, Mcveay offense, whatever, whoever want to give them

699
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Speaker 5: credit to is obviously you know, Mike Shanahan, but it's

700
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Speaker 5: they find ways to get easy yards. Formationally bootlegs screams like,

701
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 5: it's just get some easy yards. The Chief offense give

702
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 5: zero easy yards right now. They do nothing said easy

703
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Speaker 5: and that's what it has to be updated. You can

704
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Speaker 5: keep the West Coast passing concepts and some of the

705
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Speaker 5: stuff he's done over the years, but we gotta find

706
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Speaker 5: the yard. So if they do that, I feel really good.

707
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 5: I've really you know, feel good, much better about where

708
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Speaker 5: they are as an organization. If he just brings back

709
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Speaker 5: someone from his tree, I feel less excited about where

710
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Speaker 5: the Chief will be next season.

711
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Speaker 4: I mean, it'd be easier to get easy yards if

712
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Speaker 4: they had a Schwartz brother guarding form and block form.

713
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Speaker 4: Still he's Jeff easier, easier if.

714
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Speaker 5: They had Jeremiah Love at running back, but they probably

715
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 5: can't drop the nine overall, easier like if they had

716
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Speaker 5: like a running back and the running backs are not

717
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 5: getting a lot of issues with the cheese. But yeah,

718
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Speaker 5: I mean, look they're gonna lose the Raiders. I guess

719
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Speaker 5: I don't know. Raiders can't be anybody but go the way. Yeah,

720
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 5: it went the way it went this year. It's unfortunate,

721
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 5: but I think it's too early to throw on a

722
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 5: dynasty grave.

723
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Speaker 4: He is Jeff Schwartz, a Fox Sports radio also with

724
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 4: the YouTube channel follow him there. Schwartz is smarter than you.

725
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 4: As the podcast, He's definitely smarter than us.

726
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: We're smarter now for having talked to him. I know that.

727
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: There you go.

728
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Speaker 4: My new Year's resolution be as smart as Jeff Swartz

729
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 4: going into twenty twenty six. Jeff, thanks for doing this

730
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: here on f and A on FSR THA.

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Speaker 5: Here guys, have a good weekend.

732
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: And years later, you know, I feel like I got

733
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 4: some brain hatches going on just talking with Jeff there.

734
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Speaker 3: Well, you guys are basically basically, you know, all in

735
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: sympatico when it comes to the Oregon Ducks. I mean,

736
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: you guys just waxing poetically about all your love and

737
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: affection and how good they're going to do this weekend.

738
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Speaker 4: My god, well you feel the same way. We all

739
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 4: have a kinship when it comes to the Ducks and

740
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 4: winning this game against Texas Tech.

741
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Speaker 2: I thought, Kevin no change my mind. I'm taking them.

742
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 4: What a hater.

743
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 5: Through you?

744
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: No, not in the least.

745
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: Is it just because you have to root for teams

746
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: named the Raiders? Because you should really stop doing that

747
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 4: at some point.

748
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really bad for my health. It's not paying

749
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Speaker 2: off for me very well.

750
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Speaker 4: The Raiders leave them in twenty twenty five, Kevin, Come on, now,

751
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: they ever quit them? You're right because they could have

752
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: the number one overall pick.

753
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: Come on, I'm sure they'll find a way to screw

754
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: that up to No.

755
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Speaker 4: Wait a second, Fernando Mendoza could be guy for them

756
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 4: and could be the guy we're talking about. Next, when

757
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: we return to the college football forecast, we'll preview number

758
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 4: nine Alabama taking on Indiana right in our own backyard

759
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 4: here at the Rose Bowl. Coming up next, this is

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00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 4: the Ben Mallor Show. I'm out of Mosley's Kevin figures.

761
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 4: We're FNA in for Big Ben.

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Speaker 1: Nice of you guys to drop by FNA COTTONNA, welcome

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00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: back in f and A in for Ben Mallard tonight,

764
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm out of Mosley's Kevin figures.

765
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Speaker 4: And remember, with the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us

766
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Speaker 4: wherever you happen to be catch us and all of

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Speaker 4: Sports Radio in the app to stream us live all day,

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Speaker 4: it will always pop up at the top of your screen.

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Speaker 3: Thanksgeting Jeff Schwartz for joining us in the last segment

774
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: talking some NFL and college football. One thing we did

775
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: talk about was the Rose Bowl Alabama and Indiana coming

776
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 3: up from rain. He passed Adena, California on Saturday, Or

777
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: excuse me, I should I say Saturday? It feels like

778
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: a college football Saturday on what is it? Thursday afternoon?

779
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 3: About the time of year, Adam, where all the days

780
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: kind of run together. I have no idea what day

781
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: of the week it is anymore.

782
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: Time of year. It's day one of the New year. Heaven,

783
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 4: Happy New Year. By the way, it is twenty twenty six,

784
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Speaker 4: And yes, we got a great matchup right in our

785
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 4: own backyard here at the Rose Ball. Was that a

786
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 4: sarcastic clap that we got that right? Hey, it's day

787
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 4: one of twenty twenty six. Look at it New Year.

788
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: I am bleeping brilliant.

789
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 4: Look at us figuring things out here on the calendar.

790
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 4: All right, Kevin said, there is weather a little bit wet,

791
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: a little bit rainy out there. Who do you think

792
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 4: would favor in this matchup?

793
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Speaker 2: Oh? Indiana one thousand percent.

794
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: Fyll the way Indiana and I think from a matchup

795
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: standpoint is should be their favored number one anyway, which

796
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: they should be, and I think they potentially win this

797
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 3: game going away. I realized losing Stephen Daley and the

798
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: defensive line is a big loss. He's one of their

799
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: best down defensive linemens, so that's certainly gonna hurt.

800
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: How did he get hurt again?

801
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 4: Oh? Unfortunately celebratings with the fans after their victory in

802
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: the Big Ten game.

803
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: Not quite Martine Gramatica, but I mean not that far

804
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: from it.

805
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: I hate it. Why would the football gods let that happen?

806
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 4: Why have you forsaken us like that?

807
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 5: Yeah?

808
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 4: He deserves better.

809
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 2: He does.

810
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: And Alabama's biggest weakness is their offensive line. Indiana's best

811
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: strength defensively is upfront, So just based on that, if

812
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: you look at it that way, the major advantage to

813
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 3: Indiana ty Simpson has been good when he's been protected,

814
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: and when he's not, he hasn't been Now, I know

815
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: that's not really something, you know, some crazy thing to

816
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 3: throw out thereous it's obvious to if any quarterback doesn't

817
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,959
Speaker 3: have time to throw. Look at what happened to Julian

818
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: saying on Friday night, he's not going to be as effective.

819
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: But what you're going to find yourself in if you're

820
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: Alabama is a situation where you couldn't you can't run

821
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 3: the ball. You couldn't run the ball even against bad

822
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: teams this year. That's just something that for whatever reason,

823
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 3: they were incapable of doing. So now you're telling me

824
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: that ty Simpson has to drop back potentially forty five

825
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: times to beat this Indiana team. That's a recipe for disaster.

826
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Speaker 3: See it happening.

827
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 4: I'll give Bama this. It was impressive to see them

828
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 4: come back against Oklahoma, redeem themselves with that loss at

829
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 4: Homes to them during the regular season, and then beat

830
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Speaker 4: them in the opening round after being down seventeen to nothing.

831
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Speaker 4: But Indiana's it's.

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Speaker 3: A different beast in Oklahoma's offense sucks and Alabama struggled

833
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: against them.

834
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: That's the other side of the ball.

835
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: Alabama's defense is this is not Nick Saban's defense, so

836
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 3: they have that working against them too.

837
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Speaker 4: Indiana, to me, is the most complete team in this tournament.

838
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: Now.

839
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Speaker 4: I don't know if they have a rematch against the

840
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 4: Ducks how that could go, but we still have to

841
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 4: get to that point. Bama is very talented, but as

842
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: you mentioned, they have an obvious weakness with not being

843
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 4: able to run the football. And then if you can

844
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: pin your ears back and get after Tys Simpson because

845
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: you know they have to pass it, especially if you

846
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 4: get up early in the ballgame, they're in trouble. And

847
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 4: I think this could get out of hand. And that's

848
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 4: probably why Indiana's minus seven and a half when it

849
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: comes to the betting odds in this ball game, when

850
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 4: you think this is Alabama. When's the last time Alabama

851
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 4: in a playoff game since we've had the playoff going

852
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 4: back to the fourteen playoff, has been an underdog by

853
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Speaker 4: seven and a half points.

854
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: Have they ever been an underdog in a college football

855
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: playoff game? They may never have been.

856
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: I know obviously they lost a couple, but I don't

857
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: know if they've ever actually entered in as a dog before.

858
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: They're the overdog that has the dog in the webcage

859
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: that has a tiger in there. Typically, but it's not

860
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 4: Nick Saban's Alabama team, and they have serious flaws.

861
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: They do, and so it's just really hard to overcome.

862
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: From just a pure football matchup standpoint, what Indiana does

863
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: best is what Alabama struggles against the most. So just

864
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: as sometimes it comes down to just being as simple

865
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: as that. And now, look big game situations. Alabama does

866
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Speaker 3: have guys who've been on that roster. Ty Simpson is

867
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Speaker 3: one of them that are from the Nick Saban days.

868
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Speaker 3: It's a program that knows how to win, that's been

869
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Speaker 3: in big situations, that played in a Rose Bowl a

870
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: couple of years ago. So I'm not taking that experience

871
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 3: factor away from them. But sometimes you can have all

872
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 3: the experience in the world if you just ain't good enough,

873
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: you ain't good enough. By the way, go back to

874
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: Friday Night, same situation with Miami and Ohio State. Ohio

875
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: State have been there plenty of times over the past

876
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: couple of years. Miami had not didn't matter.

877
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Speaker 4: Okay, I do have to say this in Alabama's favor.

878
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: I don't want to go roll tied with it here,

879
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 4: but there was a roll tide. There was a revelation

880
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 4: in that game against Oklahoma. H who's this lady brook

881
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 4: fella who had two touchdowns, who hadn't scored all season

882
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: long at receiver. We came into the year talking about

883
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 4: Ryan Williams. He hadn't done much, but all of a sudden,

884
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 4: Brook balls out against Oklahoma with two spectacular touchdowns, acrobatic plays,

885
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 4: showing off the athleticism. Is that something they can tap

886
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: into a little bit more, because if they're.

887
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: Going to make a run.

888
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 4: I think they are one of those teams because we

889
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 4: talk about their flaws, somebody else is going to have

890
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 4: to step up and rise up in a big moment

891
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 4: here to propel them forward and definitely to get back

892
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: past Indiana.

893
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, whether it's Brooks, Horton, Bernard, I don't know what

894
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 3: happened to Ryan Williams this year. He talks about it

895
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 3: at Media Days earlier this week, saying he's just trying

896
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: to do whatever it takes for the team to win.

897
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: If it means him having a huge game, great, If

898
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: not great, well you kind of need a little bit

899
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: more production from a guy who was that dynamic last year.

900
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't love that. I don't answer no.

901
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: I will love him to be more pissed off and

902
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: be more demonstrated about the fact that he didn't have

903
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: a good year and he wants to step up and

904
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: have some big games here in the postseason.

905
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: Like that, Books, you had three losses this season, you

906
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 4: almost didn't get in. They definitely needed more from you.

907
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I wasn't necessarily through, he said. I guess

908
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 3: quote unquote the right thing about being a team guy. Sure,

909
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: but it's like, no, I'm one of the best players

910
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: in the nation. I haven't played well this year. I

911
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 3: need to step up be better for my football team Indiana.

912
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 4: The start contrast in this game, when it comes to

913
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 4: running the football, they're tenth in the country. Bama is one.

914
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 2: Twenty, Sobama doesn't even try.

915
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: The other thing is Indiana is number one when it

916
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: comes to a third down conversion rate, and that's what

917
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Speaker 4: we saw win this game tonight that we'll talk about

918
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Speaker 4: more coming up. Miami going seven to fourteen and getting

919
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 4: those crucial third downs was the difference in winning that

920
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 4: ballgame against Ohio State. More f and a on FSR

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Speaker 4: coming up next,