Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory spelling an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: So I'm drinking water.
Speaker 3: You're drinking water because I'm in your house and I'm
Speaker 3: being a good guest.
Speaker 1: I it's and you were talking and you put it
Speaker 1: in my hands. It's good for your system. Zane brought
Speaker 1: it to you.
Speaker 2: Fairness, he did it kind.
Speaker 1: Of forced you to drink water. But it's good for
Speaker 1: your water hydrating. You keep telling me that it is.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's good for your skin, it's good
Speaker 1: for your cells, good for every part of your body.
Speaker 1: Your body is what ninety seventy five, seventy five.
Speaker 3: You have no idea what you look at with the
Speaker 3: big brain. Now, all right, totally okay, Tory two point zero?
Speaker 1: Okay, how's that going?
Speaker 3: So you coin that, yes, yes, I had to think
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: How's it going?
Speaker 3: It definitely started okay. But it's okay to have ebbs
Speaker 3: and flows, right, so I'm having It's not.
Speaker 1: A hiccup, it's not. So it's totally okay to have
Speaker 1: ebbs and flows. And like we talked about before, it's
Speaker 1: not an easy thing to do to decide to change
Speaker 1: your outlook on life, but you just you stay at it.
Speaker 1: That's That's the thing is you just keep doing it,
Speaker 1: even like when it's hard and you're gonna go back
Speaker 1: and forth and you're gonna have times you're gonna make
Speaker 1: choices and go that's not the choice that I should
Speaker 1: have made, and that didn't feel good. But then do
Speaker 1: you make a better choice the next time. It's all
Speaker 1: about being aware of what it is you do right,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: But I had awareness before, I just didn't act on it,
Speaker 3: or I didn't have the confidence.
Speaker 1: To act on exactly.
Speaker 3: But I feel like I'm in a better place. I
Speaker 3: don't say sorry anymore rarely.
Speaker 1: I I have been. I see things that you post
Speaker 1: every once in a while, and your your demeanor and
Speaker 1: your presence is different, Like you are much more aware
Speaker 1: of the fact that you have a voice and the
Speaker 1: people are listening to it, and you are. You appear
Speaker 1: to be much more ah, You're it's like you're trying
Speaker 1: to You're you're setting a much better example for people.
Speaker 1: It's really impressive to see because I know it's not easy.
Speaker 1: It's not easy to do.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I mean, I wanted to say like living in a shadow,
Speaker 3: but it there's so many multiple shadows. I felt like
Speaker 3: I was living in for you know this as well,
Speaker 3: I mean sure from us like growing up on nine
Speaker 3: two oh yeah.
Speaker 1: All sorts of things from home, from work, from relationships
Speaker 1: for it, and that all builds up and then you
Speaker 1: start losing focus of like, oh my god, what is
Speaker 1: really me? And then what is like some protective thing
Speaker 1: that I that I put up because of past experiences.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Wait, when we met we were fifteen.
Speaker 3: Seen the pilot though.
Speaker 1: Because I was driving.
Speaker 2: You were driving. Yeah, you're two months younger than me.
Speaker 1: Sixteen, sixteen, and then seventeen when we started actually shooting
Speaker 1: episode two. Why did I think the pilot we were fifteen? No,
Speaker 1: if we were fifteen, I would have had to go
Speaker 1: with my parents, and I know for sure that I didn't.
Speaker 1: I remember, like I remember that we were at Torrance
Speaker 1: High School, right, and that I drove there. I remember
Speaker 1: where our cars were. Part of that place is so
Speaker 1: it's so it's so crazy, the those memories, like I
Speaker 1: going back and I wish you would have been there.
Speaker 1: When we did the live podcast from from the school.
Speaker 1: It was so interesting to be in spots and go
Speaker 1: like I remember standing around this corner waiting to hear action.
Speaker 1: To come up like those were. Everybody else looked around.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god, the fountain and the stairs,
Speaker 1: and I was like I could remember because we were
Speaker 1: there so often. I remember all the kids looking over
Speaker 1: the balcony and like that kind of odd weird thing
Speaker 1: hiding behind spots like I like, I remember. I remember
Speaker 1: the campus for that reason. I remember the way that
Speaker 1: the ways we used to walk to get out to
Speaker 1: set from the parking lot. I can see it right now.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Remember remember the courtyard that was kind
Speaker 1: of off in the back that almost it was it
Speaker 1: was all grass and it had like a wrought iron
Speaker 1: fence around it, and it almost felt like like the
Speaker 1: side yard of a church property. And it was around
Speaker 1: the front. It was on the off off the main street,
Speaker 1: and we'd walk around that way sometimes times, and there
Speaker 1: was they had a couple of walkways through there, but
Speaker 1: like nobody ever walked through there. It was sort of
Speaker 1: the it was the ghost town of the campus.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, our trade, I can like see our
Speaker 3: I remember meeting you like I can see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, out where the like circular drive kind
Speaker 1: of thing was at the at the the front of
Speaker 1: the school. Remember the front of the schools on the
Speaker 1: trailer side street. Yeah, so remember the trailers used to
Speaker 1: be parked around the front. Oh, it was the front.
Speaker 1: When we shot the pilot, we were part of the
Speaker 1: trailers were out front, like along the sidewalk.
Speaker 2: So crazy.
Speaker 1: And then we ended up moving to the back parking
Speaker 1: lot later on. But we didn't start there. We had
Speaker 1: to do school. You don't, So I don't remember you
Speaker 1: doing school unless you did set school in your trailer
Speaker 1: by yourself, like you had your own teacher or something.
Speaker 2: No, I did it with you on the pilot.
Speaker 1: I think, I thinks I have I literally have zero memory.
Speaker 1: I have memory of being in class with Doug Emerson
Speaker 1: and then and then sneaking out to smoke cigarettes with Jason, but.
Speaker 2: It was in a trailer. It wasn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I remember when the series got picked up,
Speaker 3: I was in I got my GD because I didn't
Speaker 3: want to.
Speaker 1: Have to do set school. Yeah, okay, probably.
Speaker 2: Because if I had to do it with you, I
Speaker 2: would have like.
Speaker 1: Flunked it, flunk toward why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was sixteen, and it was like a boy's cute,
Speaker 3: like I don't know it six year old girls.
Speaker 1: I went to an all girls' school. Did you really? Yes? Oh? Okay?
Speaker 3: I literally said, I don't want him to do school
Speaker 3: with Brian, And I felt like, you didn't do on
Speaker 3: set school?
Speaker 1: I didn't? Forward, I did, so I did on set school.
Speaker 1: Going forward. I ended up graduating from Amelia Earhart, which
Speaker 1: is the continuation school of North Hollywood High, Okay. And
Speaker 1: the reason I went there is because they were They
Speaker 1: were great with like school work. They were like, we
Speaker 1: don't you don't need to be here like this is.
Speaker 1: These are just the assignments like try and get them
Speaker 1: done when you can.
Speaker 4: It was great, but you still had a set teacher
Speaker 4: for I did, but it was only for that year.
Speaker 4: It was only for half of that year and then
Speaker 4: ten and then I was done. So I graduated six
Speaker 4: months earlier than the rest of my class because I
Speaker 4: the school set up there was great. You could sit
Speaker 4: in my classroom and do all the work that you wanted.
Speaker 4: You didn't have to go like from class to class
Speaker 4: teacher to teach her. So I did, like type in
Speaker 4: class in two days like I did, like I just
Speaker 4: buckled down and got stuff done.
Speaker 1: I was like, I just want to be done with this.
Speaker 3: It's unfair, right, now, because so you're saying. So, the
Speaker 3: only way I could take the ged is my mom said,
Speaker 3: when you're not filming, you still have to.
Speaker 1: Go to school.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I took it, but I still had my
Speaker 3: school work. But I didn't have a set teacher. So
Speaker 3: I did do it like after we filmed. Okay, so
Speaker 3: it was double the work. Yeah, and I did it
Speaker 3: just so I didn't have to sit in class with
Speaker 3: you and look silly.
Speaker 1: God, I blew it blew.
Speaker 2: It could have been nothing, nothing else, like it's.
Speaker 1: It's not like it added to any education. No to me. No,
Speaker 1: I always tell people like when I can't think of
Speaker 1: things or I don't know the answer to stuff like
Speaker 1: set school is my excuse. And some people had really
Speaker 1: good set school teachers. I just didn't care enough.
Speaker 2: But it's not like you needed it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's not true. I think everybody needs it, needs
Speaker 1: it to a certain degree. I guess it needs an education.
Speaker 3: Yes, I didn't mean to say that, but I mean,
Speaker 3: I see my sixteen year old struggling with I don't
Speaker 3: even know decimals and fractions and it's just the numbers,
Speaker 3: and I'm just like she's a creative, like, right, I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't want to tell her not to like and
Speaker 3: she's doing really well, but I'm like, God, she's going
Speaker 3: to do something creatively and she's never going to need this.
Speaker 3: And they have calculators now, we didn't have that, right, you.
Speaker 1: Know, a great calculator in your phone. You don't even
Speaker 1: need to buy a separate calculator. Yeah, I think. I
Speaker 1: think like academics are a tough one. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: necessary for some lines of work for sure, and then
Speaker 1: for other ones they're not nearly as necessary. I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like school teaches work ethic compared to just
Speaker 1: the academics. So it's like okay, if she's not academically
Speaker 1: into a certain class or certain things, it's like okay
Speaker 1: at least. Still. I always say this with my kids,
Speaker 1: just try. As long as I know you're trying your hardest,
Speaker 1: I can't expect you to get a's, b's like I
Speaker 1: get it. Like I remember when I was in school
Speaker 1: and there were certain classes where it was just like
Speaker 1: I can't for the life of me, I cannot like
Speaker 1: excel at this class. I cannot make it happen, no
Speaker 1: matter how hard I tried, no matter how hard I study.
Speaker 1: So I think that's that that's kind of the bar
Speaker 1: for me with my kids.
Speaker 3: I had the same I mean, to this day, I'm
Speaker 3: retraining my brain to know I'm not stupid or dumb
Speaker 3: because I failed close but I failed algebra twice and
Speaker 3: it likes I was like they were like all ninth
Speaker 3: graders and I was like the eleventh grader's still there,
Speaker 3: like wamp and yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember elementary school. I was really good
Speaker 1: at math. I was always like head of my class,
Speaker 1: like I took pride and like I was so good
Speaker 1: and then algebra started and it was like Titanic, like
Speaker 1: the ship just sank. I could not wrap my brain
Speaker 1: around it. And then it just like like I remember
Speaker 1: the first sea I got was in math and there
Speaker 1: was a parent teacher conference and I hadn't told my
Speaker 1: parents that I had a see and and so we
Speaker 1: went to the school and I knew like they were
Speaker 1: gonna be sitting in front of my math teacher and
Speaker 1: that that was gonna come out. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I like, you know that thing when you're a kid
Speaker 1: of like if I close my eyes hard enough and
Speaker 1: nobody can see me, like and I can't see anybody,
Speaker 1: then nobody can see me like that, do you so?
Speaker 1: I remember doing that, and then of course they found
Speaker 1: out and they were so disappointed, which was it's the worst.
Speaker 1: That's the worst word. Like I would much rather my
Speaker 1: parents were mad at me than disappointed in me. You're
Speaker 1: so right. Disappointed is like yeah, it's like, oh man,
Speaker 1: how all you want to do is fix it? But
Speaker 1: it's like, how am I gonna I'll try harder in
Speaker 1: the algebra, but I can't. I can't guarantee that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fix it and then not disappoint you disappoint like mad,
Speaker 1: you could, You'll get over. Disappointment felt like it was
Speaker 1: a forever thing for me.
Speaker 2: I can't believe we have five kids each.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: How'd that happen? I mean, I know, but I'm just
Speaker 3: it's crazy. Yeah, it's uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: What's crazy is Iron, who always, to me seemed like
Speaker 1: the real romantic guy, Like I always assumed he'd be
Speaker 1: the family guy first, and he's like the last one.
Speaker 1: I think he was the he was the last one
Speaker 1: to have kids.
Speaker 2: Really hmmm.
Speaker 1: If you think about it, Luke had kids, Jenny had kids,
Speaker 1: You had kids. Yeah, you're right, Gabrielle had yes. Wow, yeah, interesting, right, But.
Speaker 3: I don't think it was on purpose his first way.
Speaker 3: I mean, oh no, no, he would have started.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, for sure he was. He was ready to
Speaker 1: have a family. Like yesterday, I love that you have
Speaker 1: a vest on that says weirdo on the front of it.
Speaker 1: But then you're like judging me for a piece of
Speaker 1: dog care.
Speaker 2: Oh but I wasn't judging you.
Speaker 1: You were just fixing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what girls do, right, we fix Seana is always.
Speaker 1: Fucking with my hair always like you know, fix it.
Speaker 3: It means we care, okay, right, And it doesn't have
Speaker 3: to just be like your life partner. It's the other
Speaker 3: woman in your life to care about you.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely true.
Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't do it just some random person. I
Speaker 3: mean I would.
Speaker 2: Fixate it on the like, be so fixed, like would
Speaker 2: I really wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Have you Wait, have you ever to like a random
Speaker 1: person been like can I just you have stuff on
Speaker 1: your or your tag is out on your shirt?
Speaker 3: You Oh, I do that all the time. But that's
Speaker 3: like girl code now and they thank me.
Speaker 1: That's girl code. How what do you mean girl code?
Speaker 3: Because yeah, if a girl is walking around her tag
Speaker 3: sticking on the back, Like that's just a move to
Speaker 3: not tell her.
Speaker 1: Right, But what if it's a guy does girl code?
Speaker 1: Then is the code like, oh, don't touch another possible
Speaker 1: woman's guy's tag on his shirt. I'm just gonna let
Speaker 1: him walk around.
Speaker 2: And what's the scenario.
Speaker 1: Say you were out somewhere and you saw a couple walking. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: and the guy had a big tag stick I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: But but now if they were walking and she had
Speaker 1: a big tag sticking.
Speaker 2: Out, I would Okay, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1: Girl code, So there you go. You didn't you don't
Speaker 1: want to, Well it's it's not great, So.
Speaker 3: Well no, I would, but I don't judge. But I
Speaker 3: would say, like in my head, like wow, she's she's
Speaker 3: a dick, Like she should tell him that he has
Speaker 3: a tag hanging out the.
Speaker 1: Back, right, So okay. So then you would get upset
Speaker 1: with her with his girl not upset, just disappointed, disappointment. Internally,
Speaker 1: you would internalize it.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't overthink it.
Speaker 1: I just feel like you wouldn't outwardly be like I'm
Speaker 1: so disappointed in you for like not fixing your guys tag.
Speaker 2: If we were all talking, I would say like.
Speaker 1: If you were hanging out. Yeah, okay, he has a right,
Speaker 1: there's a you probably tell him though, Hey there's a
Speaker 1: tag sticking up out of the back of your shirt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't really ever have that though. It's not like
Speaker 3: a sure they do you think?
Speaker 1: Oh for sure? Yeah, I've had many a moment where
Speaker 1: a tag is sticking up out of the back of
Speaker 1: my shirt. She's snoring. She's the smallest of our dogs,
Speaker 1: and she like a freight train at night.
Speaker 2: I have one of those.
Speaker 1: It's the craziest thing. I snore.
Speaker 3: I never used to snore, you know what. I Oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, you won't remember this. Maybe you will. When
Speaker 3: we were filming BH nine O two and oh.
Speaker 1: Wait the reboot, yep, that one? Okay, eh, right, okay,
Speaker 1: is there another one? No? I was just making sure
Speaker 1: when you say the name that we were speaking about
Speaker 1: the reboot.
Speaker 3: The reboot, we were talking about partners and kids, and
Speaker 3: you were saying that it annoyed your ex me. Yes,
Speaker 3: it annoyed Megan when you chewed because she thought she
Speaker 3: could hear it. Yes, And I remember thinking at the time, like,
Speaker 3: how bad could it be? Like she loves him, Like why,
Speaker 3: like that really bothers her. But now my daughter's like, Mom,
Speaker 3: I can hear you chewing, and I always think of you.
Speaker 3: I'm like, God, it's an age thing. Maybe, like I
Speaker 3: don't know, I know, it just always bothered her.
Speaker 1: I I don't remember when the chew, so I think
Speaker 1: I honestly think that the chewing thing was just like
Speaker 1: she'd gotten to the point I think where things just
Speaker 1: weren't great. So I was just it was everything was
Speaker 1: annoying her, which happens in relationship. Yeah, you kind of
Speaker 1: get to that point where you're like, God, just the
Speaker 1: way you're shuffling your feet right now, the way you're
Speaker 1: putting that toast, and the toaster is just driving me crazy.
Speaker 1: It's all that stupid little stuff, you know that. And
Speaker 1: then that, to me is when you have to make
Speaker 1: the choice of going, Okay, we either are gonna go
Speaker 1: into therapy and we're gonna try and find like our
Speaker 1: connection and figure out what's going on now, or these
Speaker 1: things are gonna sink us. They're gonna be the death
Speaker 1: of us, because they just build up and build up
Speaker 1: and get worse and worse and worse. And you start
Speaker 1: every little thing, every little thing starts true.
Speaker 3: But my sixteen year old. My chewing bothers her so, but.
Speaker 1: She's sixteen and and and uh, girls and their moms
Speaker 1: that relationship can get rocky sometimes, especially like a puberty
Speaker 1: and all that, because she's trying to kind of find
Speaker 1: her own voice and all of that.
Speaker 2: So she found it.
Speaker 1: So she then I, you know, chewing isn't isn't nearly
Speaker 1: that bad. It could be way worse, honestly for her
Speaker 1: to be like you chew like a like a maniac,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: No, she's just like ugh, She's like, mom, I can
Speaker 3: hear it, like it's just and then and then.
Speaker 1: She started you, no, no.
Speaker 2: Never, I've never.
Speaker 3: And it's gotten to the point because you know, me,
Speaker 3: like I want everyone to be happy and I'm remembering,
Speaker 3: so it's gotten to the point than when I'm eating
Speaker 3: and it's just her and I I'm like, I turn
Speaker 3: away and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Are you a people pleaser with your kids? Too? Oh? Boy? No,
Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's an interesting question because it's like,
Speaker 1: I usually people that have issues like that then when
Speaker 1: they have their own kids, they they swing the complete
Speaker 1: opposite direction and they're like, I'm the boss of you.
Speaker 1: So it's like they don't have those same issues with
Speaker 1: their kids, So you have the same issues with your Kyeah?
Speaker 1: Interesting have you always? No? I love that this is
Speaker 1: your podcast and I'm I'm interviewing you. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I do this, So I it's funny,
Speaker 1: like in therapy, as I started really getting into communicating
Speaker 1: with people, I when I'm sitting and talking to people,
Speaker 1: I start getting into these like serious questions and digging,
Speaker 1: and then I feel bad and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: have I asked too much? Because you're interested? That's thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: And it's all the questions that I didn't ask before,
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot about you that I know, and
Speaker 1: then there's a lot about you that I don't, because
Speaker 1: it's it's whether you ask the questions to give you
Speaker 1: that information or not.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I just saw a great quote.
Speaker 3: It was like, you you know someone, but then there's
Speaker 3: someone like on the inside that you.
Speaker 1: Don't know, and you have to ask those questions to
Speaker 1: find out to find out.
Speaker 3: So people, please my kids, I it got worse over
Speaker 3: the years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And why and why do you think it got well?
Speaker 3: When they're young? I don't like my seven year old.
Speaker 3: He's like, I call him my boss and he's.
Speaker 1: Like, don't say that, like it really.
Speaker 3: Offends him, Like, well, kind of tell me what to do.
Speaker 3: And then I but I'm talking about it out loud.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't even know why I told him.
Speaker 1: The other day.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't think you want a mom, and
Speaker 3: he's like, I want a mom. I'm like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I didn't mean that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't mean a mom like you
Speaker 3: like you parent us. You don't want a parent apparent
Speaker 3: and he's like I do. I want you to be
Speaker 3: a parent. I'm like okay, but then you have to
Speaker 3: listen to me and we're not equals. And then I'm
Speaker 3: like shut up, like yeah, wait, I wanted to go
Speaker 3: back to something. Oh snort, your dog snores.
Speaker 1: Yes, your brain remembered the snoring conversation, and you okay, yes,
Speaker 1: my dog snores. I snore. What do you do? I do? So?
Speaker 1: I wear those breathe righte strips, and I have to sleep.
Speaker 1: I can't sleep on my back because then I really
Speaker 1: so I have to sleep on my side, but I
Speaker 1: have to sleep on my side facing away from sure
Speaker 1: and she'll like tap on me, and she'll go, hey,
Speaker 1: can you just kind of over to your side.
Speaker 2: That's very kind that she handles.
Speaker 1: It's very kind. But I mean I've got like I'm
Speaker 1: doing all the stuff that I can. The next thing
Speaker 1: that I want to do is I think I'm going
Speaker 1: to go in because I have a deviated septum. I
Speaker 1: broke my nose when I was young, So I think
Speaker 1: I want to go in and get have that corrected
Speaker 1: because I can barely breathe.
Speaker 2: How did you break your nose?
Speaker 1: I don't remember that skateboarding? Oh so you see the
Speaker 1: crooked spot on my nose. I did that not by
Speaker 1: hitting my nose.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's really not I.
Speaker 1: Hit my forehead that hard on the ground. What that
Speaker 1: it broke my nose? And my parents that generation my
Speaker 1: parents were like, you know, oh, you're okay, Like you
Speaker 1: should just take a nap, like literally all this stuff
Speaker 1: you shouldn't do. I took a nap, but yeah, yeah, totally, yeah,
Speaker 1: just just you know, just rest for a few hours.
Speaker 1: You'll be fine. And meanwhile, I had this like softball
Speaker 1: sized knot on my forehead. I was young, I was
Speaker 1: doing knots landing and uh eight yeah, like ten and
Speaker 1: a half eleven, And the producers actually said to my parents, like,
Speaker 1: he has to stop skateboarding, and they were like, we
Speaker 1: can't make him stop skateboarding, Like there's no he skateboards
Speaker 1: every single day. And so then the producers had to
Speaker 1: settle on like Okay, well could you just have him
Speaker 1: like try and keep the tricks down to a minimum.
Speaker 1: And because I was insane, like I built ramps and
Speaker 1: I was a total like X Game kind of guy.
Speaker 1: I grew up in the valley, I grew up in
Speaker 1: North Hollywood, So that's what we did. You I do.
Speaker 1: I still skate I did. I did a lot of
Speaker 1: skating though when I was recovering from the neurological stuff,
Speaker 1: because for me, it was just like a coordination and
Speaker 1: a balance thing, like it was a lot of that
Speaker 1: went away, so I had to and it used to
Speaker 1: drive me insane, like working out with my trainer and
Speaker 1: like I had zero balance. I couldn't stand on one
Speaker 1: foot and do things. And it was like I've always
Speaker 1: I did circus of the stars, like I used to
Speaker 1: do flips and I have I've on trampolines and into
Speaker 1: pools and like I've always been great at all of
Speaker 1: that stuff. You're giggling because of my Circus of the Stars.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't remember till you said it, and then
Speaker 3: I can picture you on it now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it made me. I had the ridiculous sparkly one.
Speaker 1: It was like orange and pink and purple. I think
Speaker 1: it was with Heather Langing Camp and like some of
Speaker 1: it was camp. Yeah. Yeah, that was Nightmare on Elm Street.
Speaker 2: Oh the best. Wait, which side do you sleep on?
Speaker 2: Which side of the bed?
Speaker 1: Like do you I sleep on I'm looking at my toes.
Speaker 1: I sleep on the right hand side, which I heard
Speaker 1: someone was just saying to me that, like that the
Speaker 1: right hand side of the bed is the masculine side
Speaker 1: and the left hand side is the feminine side. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's interesting because I sleep on the.
Speaker 2: Right forever, like with every partner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, Like I think I think there
Speaker 1: have been times where it's like, hey, let's switch it
Speaker 1: up a little bit, But I think I've always gravitated
Speaker 1: towards and ended up on the right side of the bed.
Speaker 2: I sleep on the left always. Whoa, whoa wait, we
Speaker 2: just I just.
Speaker 3: Like remembered this combo we had this conversation. And this
Speaker 3: is going back to Megan again. Sorry, you said she
Speaker 3: wants you to be closest to the door, so if
Speaker 3: someone comes in to kill you guys, you'll go for.
Speaker 1: Me on the left hand Is that correct? The left
Speaker 1: hand side the bed makes perfect sense? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, uh I whish I I get it. I
Speaker 1: mean fair, fair point, Like, you know, put me by
Speaker 1: the closest to the door, so in case somebody breaks in,
Speaker 1: I'm there to take the axe hit first. So I
Speaker 1: understand the argument for sure.
Speaker 2: That's funny. Yeah. So I snore Now I never used to.
Speaker 1: So you just started or you never used to because
Speaker 1: nobody told you that you snored, but you've actually snored
Speaker 1: for a long time and you didn't know it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take that back now.
Speaker 1: I didn't used to.
Speaker 2: And then Dean at some point was like, you're snoring
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: Did he say like, maybe you just started snorying, or
Speaker 1: did he say like you've been driving me insane. So
Speaker 1: I'm finally going to point out that you've been snowing
Speaker 1: our entire relationship.
Speaker 3: I mean he was like, you're chewing really loud, and
Speaker 3: I can hear you snort.
Speaker 1: No, no, I was gonna say so, So, do you
Speaker 1: think any of the stuff, any of the chewing stuff,
Speaker 1: came from that relationship and like that it was viewed
Speaker 1: by any of the kids or no, the chewing Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know, do you think like he maybe said
Speaker 1: an example of things.
Speaker 2: You'd o that bothered him?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, huh okay, well, I mean what bothered him was
Speaker 3: like dog shit and like.
Speaker 1: Anytime that'd probably bother anyone, dog shit in the house.
Speaker 3: Why are you saying it like it doesn't happen if
Speaker 3: you have animals?
Speaker 1: Sure, it's just yeah, okay, what kind of what? Wait,
Speaker 1: let's talk about all the different kinds of animal ship
Speaker 1: that are that are that have been found in your house?
Speaker 1: Because I know you have chickens not anymore, not anymore,
Speaker 1: goats not anymore, not anymore. So you just have dogs.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take.
Speaker 3: That's going to listen to this, my landlord. I only
Speaker 3: have one dog, got it?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, we just bleep it out.
Speaker 2: Dogs, cats, one ferret.
Speaker 1: Oh I had a ferret at one point. Ferrets are
Speaker 1: really fun but they're stink They're great, like they're fair
Speaker 1: super funny and they're like they have like cat mouths
Speaker 1: and cat teeth and like they Oh my god, there's
Speaker 1: so much fun. I got mine in Arizona and then
Speaker 1: drove it to Los Angeles. They sell them in all
Speaker 1: like the pet cos and the pet Sparts and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. In Arizona.
Speaker 3: I was filming in Atlanta and I had the kids
Speaker 3: and mom gilt. My daughter's like Stella's like Petco has ferrets,
Speaker 3: and I was like, okay. I worked late one night,
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, fine, let's go and I took
Speaker 3: her came home with two because they can't be alone, allegedly,
Speaker 3: and then I said, whoa wait, how are we getting
Speaker 3: them home?
Speaker 2: And she's like, oh no, no, no, I checked.
Speaker 3: I can sign them up for service animals on Delta.
Speaker 1: Nope, service animals. They're ferrets. It's like having a bird
Speaker 1: as a service animal, Like what service is that doing
Speaker 1: for you? I don't.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean an emotion support animals and support
Speaker 3: and you can't. So bottom line, we had to fly home.
Speaker 3: I had to find somebody to house them, and then
Speaker 3: found a company that drove.
Speaker 1: Them across them So much did that cost you? You
Speaker 1: bought these like fifteen dollars ferrets and it costs you
Speaker 1: like fifteen hundred dollars. It was three thousand dollars. Correct? Wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn sorry, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy when you look back on life and
Speaker 1: you think of, like all the money that you wasted
Speaker 1: on just really stupid shit stupid? Yeah, like you you
Speaker 1: have ferrets driven for three thousand dollars from where where
Speaker 1: were you working? In Atlanta? Atlanta to Los Angeles? Correct?
Speaker 1: What was the option? I but you bought them for
Speaker 1: The option is wait till you go. If you really
Speaker 1: want ferrets, let's go to Arizona because we can drive
Speaker 1: to Arizona and then we can drive back with them.
Speaker 3: But she, I've filmed there for a month, was really
Speaker 3: attached to those two is?
Speaker 1: So that's your people pleasing right there. Yeah, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I worked really late, so oh you want ferrets for sure?
Speaker 3: Let's get fair right in the tiers start, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: Rocky and Coda aren't coming home right. Don't worry, babies,
Speaker 3: We're coming home from.
Speaker 1: Crowd in love with ferrets that were in Petco. You
Speaker 1: got do because she didn't fall in love with them.
Speaker 1: There's not that fast. Why did you have goats? In
Speaker 1: because I because you had goats. I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, those goats are so cute. And so I
Speaker 1: ended up going to the same place you did because
Speaker 1: you I got the information I saw. I didn't get
Speaker 1: the information from you because we weren't talking at that point,
Speaker 1: but I saw you had talked about in some article
Speaker 1: where you got the goats from.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know what it was. It was the reality
Speaker 3: show we had, Yes, and Megan used to watch it.
Speaker 3: Because this is funny, we weren't talking, so I couldn't
Speaker 3: tell you. But when Liam who's seventeen.
Speaker 1: On Instagram account, he did. But when he was four, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we we we were both watching.
Speaker 3: And now she gave an interview and said that she
Speaker 3: watched it and she like, I love snakes. They tick
Speaker 3: on my hair and my wiena, they love me and she.
Speaker 1: Like sighted like fucking loved it.
Speaker 3: And so I would make him say like, Megan Fox
Speaker 3: is my girlfriend, like all the time in his little
Speaker 3: like voice.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I never told Yeah, we used to watch
Speaker 1: the show. So then I saw that and it looked
Speaker 1: great that you had goats. So I went to the
Speaker 1: same place, which was like a two and a half.
Speaker 2: Hour dropco Yeahco, California.
Speaker 1: Yep, went there. I ended up with two goats.
Speaker 2: Silky chickens as well.
Speaker 1: I had silky chicken from them, No, not from them
Speaker 1: from the Malibu Feedborn Yes, yeah, a topanga and p
Speaker 1: I also came.
Speaker 3: Back with the Great Pyrenees from Amber Waves Norco, California.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you know the only Amber Waves.
Speaker 3: Three things you could get Great Pyrenees, silkie chickens, and goats.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 3: Our original goat Dean named Donna Martin.
Speaker 1: And that wait, why why did he name it Donna Martin?
Speaker 1: There now I'm like paranoid. No, don't care.
Speaker 2: It was a pig.
Speaker 1: It's a call because okay, so there is some story
Speaker 1: behind it.
Speaker 3: No, he just liked saying my character's name. Okay, you're
Speaker 3: like wait, wait, wait, no, that doesn't got even worse.
Speaker 1: Let's just stop. Let's just stop the conversation there. We'll
Speaker 1: just we'll just leave it at like that's why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no, here's the reason. He said.
Speaker 3: When he was in his early twenties and he was
Speaker 3: playing hockey, he would always have to leave early on
Speaker 3: Wednesday night, and his teammates would make fun of him, like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're going to watch your girlfriend and he would go
Speaker 3: home and watch you guys N two and zero and
Speaker 3: he had a crush on Donna Martin.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. And did you know that when you
Speaker 1: met him?
Speaker 3: You told me, yeah, really, not like the first night
Speaker 3: or anything, because that would have creeped me out.
Speaker 1: But would it have Nope, it wouldn't have. So then
Speaker 1: why did you say that would.
Speaker 2: Have creeped you up? I don't know, and they felt
Speaker 2: like I should huh.
Speaker 3: Interesting, Yes, So the ghosts name was Donna Martin, and
Speaker 3: then we would tell friends. They just were like.
Speaker 1: Right, why did you name your goat after your.
Speaker 2: Yeah self intuligent, Like, oh my god, little bit.
Speaker 1: Because it was it was all of yours, your the
Speaker 1: combined family's goat. It wasn't just his. It could be
Speaker 1: like I named it. It's like, why is your goat
Speaker 1: named after your character from the show? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So yeah, so then the goat we changed to Tot's goat?
Speaker 1: After how many years?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Like right away?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So how long then did it live with
Speaker 1: the name Donna Martin?
Speaker 2: Maybe like a week?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, two two weeks? Yeah, okay, that's a normal period.
Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about, like after a.
Speaker 2: Year maybe maybe. Yeah, no, is.
Speaker 1: That's that's goat abuse. Uh, it just got awkward, abused,
Speaker 1: It got awkward, kind of like why we didn't talk
Speaker 1: because it got awkward. You were like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: he's had the name Donna Martin. She's had the name
Speaker 1: Donna Martin for so long. Like I don't now I
Speaker 1: feel guilty because she knows that name. She comes to
Speaker 1: the name Donna Martin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that wasn't the reason. It's because.
Speaker 3: Donna I turned around and came and started the goat
Speaker 3: and it was a problem. That's the real reason I
Speaker 3: respond to Donna.
Speaker 2: I always will.
Speaker 1: So do you know you both would come walking. I
Speaker 1: don't respond to David normally.
Speaker 2: That was a good call.
Speaker 1: What the yeah, I don't usually respond to David. How
Speaker 1: can you not? So? I don't get David that much, honestly,
Speaker 1: Like I it's I thinkfully. At first when the show
Speaker 1: was done, of course I got it all the time,
Speaker 1: so I responded to it. But then just from doing
Speaker 1: other things, you know, people start just calling me by
Speaker 1: my name, which is.
Speaker 3: Nice, that is nice. That's actually not what I meant.
Speaker 3: I meant, like, if someone's just not talking to you
Speaker 3: or your character says the name David in public, like
Speaker 3: I respond to three names, Torrin.
Speaker 1: Like, if they had a friend named David, you would
Speaker 1: look what.
Speaker 3: I was now, I would not really if someone says
Speaker 3: Donna in public and they're not talking.
Speaker 1: To me, yes.
Speaker 3: That I turn around when someone says mom too in
Speaker 3: a target and it's not my kid.
Speaker 1: But mom, though, you have that, you have that iniation
Speaker 1: and I've done that before. I've had that initial moment
Speaker 1: of like, wait, was that my child's voice saying dad?
Speaker 1: So I'll like respond to that, but never to David.
Speaker 1: Never like David, yes, never.
Speaker 3: When you put it that way, it's like shaming. I'm
Speaker 3: just like, well, it's kind of just like I hear
Speaker 3: it and I'm like and then I'm like, not me,
Speaker 3: not me.
Speaker 1: It's not shame. But I mean you named your goat
Speaker 1: Donna Martin and then to Donna. We'll leave it at that. HM.
Speaker 2: It was Hattie's birthday and we went to David Busters
Speaker 2: and we.
Speaker 3: We like went to check in with the party host
Speaker 3: and I literally walked up and I go, Hi, I'm
Speaker 3: Hattie Torri's mom, and I was like and I was like,
Speaker 3: something's not right there. But it didn't click instantly, and
Speaker 3: he just turned like he recognized me, like bright red,
Speaker 3: and I was like, that just happened.
Speaker 1: Wait, why did that happen? Why do you think that happened?
Speaker 1: That's such interesting, Like that's that's an interesting like rewire
Speaker 1: in your brain.
Speaker 2: Because my brain thinks backwards. Okay, yeah, okay a lot.
Speaker 2: It's like a fight to like correct it.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: It means I'm super smart, does it?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: I mean, uh no, I don't know about that, but
Speaker 3: I have to. Yeah, I don't know what you think.
Speaker 3: It was like some weird like slip like, oh.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just it's because I know you
Speaker 1: tend to, like in public, whenever you're dealing with someone,
Speaker 1: you get self conscious. You talked about that before I
Speaker 1: did get so I wonder then if for you walking
Speaker 1: up to the counter, it's that like like minimizing yourself
Speaker 1: kind of mousing yourself down a little bit and and
Speaker 1: then like your brain kind of rewires things. I hate that.
Speaker 2: You know me so well.
Speaker 3: It was one thousand percent that and I didn't even
Speaker 3: get it to you just said it. That's exactly it.
Speaker 3: Because I was the adult I had to take charge.
Speaker 3: I don't like to ask for what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I walked up and I've gottie I'm doing
Speaker 1: as well. We have an appointment to come here and do.
Speaker 3: The weird part is I've really taken a heart tory
Speaker 3: two point zero and all you know, I've been really
Speaker 3: trying to like step up and use my voice and
Speaker 3: it just got deeper as I'm saying this, and I've
Speaker 3: been really great and then in that moment I did.
Speaker 3: I walked over to him and my voice got really high.
Speaker 3: I like was like fidgety. I put out my hand
Speaker 3: like the little kid.
Speaker 1: Like hi, hick boom Hi. It's interesting because that's not
Speaker 1: so that is not something that you're dealing with. That
Speaker 1: is like just you. So I used to do that,
Speaker 1: like when I'd go to Coffee Bean or Starbucks. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to look the the barista behind the counter.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to look them in the eyes when
Speaker 1: I made my order because I felt like they were
Speaker 1: judging me or like something was silly. And so I
Speaker 1: had to then make a conscious effort when I was
Speaker 1: really working on myself of like looking at someone and
Speaker 1: talking to them and not worrying about being judged by
Speaker 1: them and What's funny is you quickly realize, like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're I'm not being judged by them. They have all
Speaker 1: their own chit going on, and they have all their
Speaker 1: own stuff. They're looking at me. The guy David Busters
Speaker 1: was probably going, oh my god, Tory Spelling is walking
Speaker 1: up to me. And I'm behind the desk at a
Speaker 1: David Busters and this is so embarrassing because, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's so they've got their own stuff going on, Like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, she's gonna be judging me for this
Speaker 1: for sure. How can she not? You know, how can
Speaker 1: he not? When I'm behind the counter at you know,
Speaker 1: coffee bean taking his order like it's everybody does that?
Speaker 2: True? He turned bright red, though.
Speaker 1: I wonder why, Like I wonder why you turned bright
Speaker 1: red because you made the mistake or because he would
Speaker 1: have turned bright red anyway.
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 1: Interesting? Right? Yeah, it's interesting when you start asking questions
Speaker 1: and you start kind of breaking down situations a little
Speaker 1: bit and you go, wait a second, why because it's
Speaker 1: easy to assume that he turned red and everything happens
Speaker 1: because of something you have done. Yeah, it's easy to
Speaker 1: make all the things about you. It's at the point though,
Speaker 1: when you stop doing that, and you go, Okay, everybody's
Speaker 1: got just as much stuff going on as I do,
Speaker 1: Like I need to stop taking things personally right.
Speaker 3: Oh that's just triggered me because my daughter, my sixteen
Speaker 3: year old, tells me like I'll hear you know, the
Speaker 3: kids internally talk, and as a parent, you're like checking
Speaker 3: because they're like starting to argue and one saying making
Speaker 3: the other one feel bad. So it's always like I'm
Speaker 3: a mom, like I'm listening and when I say I
Speaker 3: was like, wait, what did you just say? And she's like,
Speaker 3: it's not about you. You make everything about you. I
Speaker 3: was like, well, I just corrected you. Guys, I saw
Speaker 3: you whispered to one of them, roll your eyes. She's like,
Speaker 3: I'm talking about something else. Why do you think everything's
Speaker 3: about you? And that was super shaming to me because
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't I've built this life thinking
Speaker 3: nothing's about me. Oh my god, I don't be I'm
Speaker 3: not that person. But she pushes my buttons. It's like,
Speaker 3: how would you answer that?
Speaker 1: When she's like, so, I get that sometimes with my
Speaker 1: kids also, I think the thing I so I always
Speaker 1: try and continue the conversation with them. I try not
Speaker 1: make everything about me and kind of give them their
Speaker 1: own space to do their own stuff. But then when
Speaker 1: something seems an eye roll or something seems like it's
Speaker 1: directed towards me, and then they say, oh, it's not
Speaker 1: about you, then I'll get into a conversation of why
Speaker 1: I thought it was about me. We were just talking,
Speaker 1: you looked at me, you rolled your eyes, so it
Speaker 1: wasn't about me at all? Okay, fine, because then it
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, I think that, you know, I try
Speaker 1: and keep those lines of communication open as much as possible.
Speaker 3: But she keeps going and she'll be like, no, it's
Speaker 3: not just this, like you think three things about you?
Speaker 3: You think we're always talking about you? And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I wish she would rephrase it, because it's.
Speaker 1: Like, do you do you feel though, like sometimes your
Speaker 1: insecurities and self doubt you play in front and with
Speaker 1: them as well as with other people because they're around
Speaker 1: you all the time, so they I'm sure they get
Speaker 1: the brunt of that of you worrying that everybody's talking
Speaker 1: about you or what they think or what it is
Speaker 1: your you know, what is you're doing or what you said.
Speaker 3: Or no, honestly, I'm just trying to mitigate like the
Speaker 3: situation within the siblings, like I just want to They
Speaker 3: talk about me all the time. Honestly, I'm good with that.
Speaker 3: Like I'll hear something and I'm like, oh, that doesn't
Speaker 3: feel good, but I let it go. I've been I'm
Speaker 3: really good at that. It's only if I think that
Speaker 3: they're being unfair to another sibling that I said, I'm
Speaker 3: listening right for sure, that's all right, and so but
Speaker 3: she knows it pushes my button. So she's like you,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, you always think got it. Yeah, she's the
Speaker 3: one how old does she know?
Speaker 2: Sixteen?
Speaker 3: And she's is she driving? She's going to be Yeah,
Speaker 3: she's taking drivers out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She's also the most helpful though, but it's we she's
Speaker 2: just like me, except she uses her voice.
Speaker 4: She's really headstrong, she's really she's just really confident.
Speaker 1: She's like she's even when even when she's not confident,
Speaker 1: she's confident about not being confident. Yes, yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: But she's like me in so many ways.
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, wow, I see, like I'm I
Speaker 3: wish I could have been that sixty year old. That's
Speaker 3: the part that I'm glad. Yeah, always has to have
Speaker 3: the last word, Like, so I just have to, like
Speaker 3: the conversations will get going and we'll talk about stuff,
Speaker 3: and she's good about that, and she's super smart and
Speaker 3: really like in touch with her feelings and everything.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I can't have the last world.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting, isn't it interesting when you're a parent
Speaker 1: and your kids get older and you see things that
Speaker 1: you do like really become a part of their being
Speaker 1: and their character, and you realize like, Okay, that wouldn't
Speaker 1: have existed if I hadn't put that there. That's my doing.
Speaker 1: Like you know, kids are to me, they're people. They're
Speaker 1: born exactly who they are, and they're consistently that. But
Speaker 1: then they are the little things in securities that you
Speaker 1: kind of work into their lives, questions about things. And
Speaker 1: then when you see those like really come to fruition
Speaker 1: when they're older, you you can't help but take responsibility
Speaker 1: and go, God, I really fucked up, like doing that one,
Speaker 1: because I wish that you know that the kids didn't
Speaker 1: have that thing.
Speaker 2: But it's like impossible to not fuck your kids type.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's incasible. It's impossible.
Speaker 2: There's always going to be something that yeah.
Speaker 1: It's I kind of feel like the task is to
Speaker 1: fuck them up as little as possible. Yes, it's not,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't. I'm I have a lifetime so
Speaker 1: far of stuff, so it's impossible for that not to
Speaker 1: be a part of who I am. And in parenting,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been fixing stuff as i've as I'm going.
Speaker 1: But like, Asius is twenty two, right, so when he
Speaker 1: was young, I was a twenty nine thirty year old
Speaker 1: just knucklehead, like I had no idea what I was doing,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty nine. I was twenty nine, twenty nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just wild to think about.
Speaker 1: He's twenty two, no, and I'm fifty one.
Speaker 3: Wow, you have twenty two to two to two twenty
Speaker 3: years like no their bookend.
Speaker 1: Literally what's crazy is the age difference between Cassius and
Speaker 1: Noah is ten years, and then the age difference between
Speaker 1: Noah and Zane is ten years. Wow. Yeah, trifecta. Yeah. Interesting,
Speaker 1: and then all of the kids thankfully, because my fifty
Speaker 1: year old, fifty one year old brain would like just
Speaker 1: have an aneurysm at trying to figure out when people go, oh,
Speaker 1: what ages are your kids? Like I you know it
Speaker 1: screws me up. But luckily all my kids are either
Speaker 1: all even in one year or all odd in one year.
Speaker 1: So this year they turned twenty two, eight, ten, twelve,
Speaker 1: and two. Next year there'll be twenty three, three, nine,
Speaker 1: eleven and thirteen. So it's like either they're all either
Speaker 1: odd one year or they're all even one year. So
Speaker 1: it makes it easier for me to remember.
Speaker 3: Which is insane, because that's actually harder for some brains
Speaker 3: the way, for my brain, the way you just said it,
Speaker 3: I was like, what.
Speaker 1: Wait, but if next year they're all going to turn
Speaker 1: an odd number, it'd be easier than to think, I think,
Speaker 1: to be like, oh yeah, they're all huh going to
Speaker 1: be two and ten, twelve and twenty two? No, no, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, let's just agree to disagree.
Speaker 2: Oh we're doing so well.
Speaker 1: We can't both connect on everything, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true,