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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

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Speaker 1: before we get to this week's episode, I want to

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Speaker 1: remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,

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Speaker 1: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power.

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Speaker 2: So feel free to go to your local bookstores.

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Speaker 1: Preferably queer owned, black owned, or woman owned to support them,

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Speaker 1: but also just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you read your books.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: That is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual

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Speaker 1: exploration and power, written by yours truly and my co

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Speaker 1: host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Weezy. Make sure y'all

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Speaker 1: get that. Now let's get to this week's episode. This

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Speaker 1: is Mandy be Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of

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Speaker 1: the Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome,

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Speaker 1: and kind of audios to the end of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: This is the last episode of Selective Ignorance for the year,

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Speaker 1: and of course, like most of your favorite pods, we.

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Speaker 2: Are doing a recap of our full year because.

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Speaker 1: You know what we don't do over here, seasons ten episodes.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: You're getting it weekly, babe, and we've been giving it

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Speaker 1: to you twice a week.

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Speaker 2: Oh baby, honey, guys, it is your girl, Mandy B.

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Speaker 1: And I'm super super, super super excited to be doing

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Speaker 1: this with my super producers show. We got journalism, Jason.

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Speaker 2: Ibb me straight out of Jersey.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of jays there, a lot of j

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Speaker 1: a lot of jays, there, a lot of jay's there. First,

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Speaker 1: we have podcasts og legend sir a King, that's.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's right, that.

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Speaker 4: Yo, you'd be slaying some slick ship doing the intro

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Speaker 4: and I feel like I'm part of g unit. Wh

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Speaker 4: I just kind of ride and be on board and

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Speaker 4: your beef is mine?

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Speaker 2: That is crazy? Or I don't think what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Wait?

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Speaker 2: Wait wait the fifty cent ever flight ya yo?

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Speaker 5: Or or Lloyd, I'm saying we had we set to

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Speaker 5: ride with it.

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Speaker 2: You have to. You have no choice. You have no choice.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, my beef is your beef.

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Speaker 6: But you know what, that's why, that's why leading into it,

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Speaker 6: you gotta kind of mellow her out before and didn't

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Speaker 6: get crazy.

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Speaker 3: So then once we get there, it's like, all right, cool,

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Speaker 3: we got we level headed. Now you don't have to

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Speaker 1: It's funny because I was gonna say, luckily this year,

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Speaker 1: I didn't have much beef, But that would be a lie.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't beef. It was the science made impossible beef.

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Speaker 1: It was like it was all fake beef. I didn't

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Speaker 1: have beef actually with anybody this year if you ask me, h,

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Speaker 1: I clearly had opinions which were shared heavily on this

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Speaker 1: and I'm really excited to be going into another year

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Speaker 1: of bringing new things, new waves.

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Speaker 2: One of the things.

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Speaker 1: fact that this pod in its first kind of full year.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me see what episode are we on.

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Speaker 1: This is episode forty two, so technically we're still not

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Speaker 2: It's fifty two episodes, right A King that make like that?

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Speaker 6: That's that's I mean, yes, we're going by the calendar year.

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Speaker 6: It's fifty two week ago.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is episode technically.

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Speaker 6: Forty four, and so I mean, if you really want

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Speaker 3: We've been doing a year's work for content in a

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Speaker 3: shorter amount of time. Hello you podcasters out there.

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Speaker 2: We have done that. We have done that.

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Speaker 1: But Jason mentioned that this pod has went through technically

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Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to get into this before we

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Speaker 1: all share our thoughts on the Netflix. iHeart Charlemagne deal

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Speaker 1: that just got announced. But Jason, in your mind, what

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Speaker 1: Even our episode titles yeah to be questions, Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: Yes, And then I think I think we got into

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Speaker 4: But also you were being like a very polished hole.

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Speaker 1: And I think when I had the conversation where I

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Speaker 1: I was like, y'all are both so strong and opinionated

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Speaker 2: I said, don't don't be afraid to get on the mic.

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Speaker 2: And we can talk about that too in a little bit,

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Speaker 2: But before we do, we live, eat, breathe this industry.

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Speaker 1: And so even though I got to talk about it

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Speaker 1: I wanted to end the year off with our predictions

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Speaker 1: our thoughts, views and such on this Netflix iHeart podcast,

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Speaker 1: this Netflix volume deal, this Charlemagne two hundred million dollar

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Speaker 1: contract renewal, And so how do y'all want to start it? Because,

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Speaker 1: And so I'm I'm gonna tell you now, Charlemagne better

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Speaker 2: You have to bring this show to motherfucking Netflix.

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Speaker 5: It's a show.

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Speaker 2: There's no conversion and there's a lot, go ahead, aching.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think people, I think what we have

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Speaker 6: to get to a place where what's the end game

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Speaker 6: with the clips?

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Speaker 3: Right?

446
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Speaker 6: Is it to just bring awareness to the product. That

447
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 6: should be the only goal if you're able to monetize. However,

448
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Speaker 6: that looks by way of you know, other entities seeing

449
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Speaker 6: that traction, seeing that motion, so to speak. Then for

450
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Speaker 6: all intense purposes, it works. But there's a rhythm and

451
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Speaker 6: rhyme and reason too doing those clips. It's not just

452
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Speaker 6: you know, we are intentional about the clips. We know

453
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Speaker 6: the guests we know the conversation. Obviously, that clip was

454
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Speaker 6: talking about you know, glasses assessment on Drake in twenty

455
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Speaker 6: twenty five, right, so that's always going to draw the ron. Now,

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Speaker 6: did I know it's going to do a million? No,

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Speaker 6: but I knew its possibility to do something, you know

458
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Speaker 6: what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But the only one who was bold enough to say

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Speaker 1: the highest to lowest fucking sucked at. And that clip

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Speaker 1: is almost at four hundred thousand with a good clip.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 6: What what I see is we foster the community that

464
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Speaker 6: way through conversation, right because every day you wake up,

465
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Speaker 6: you see the ticker is crazy. It's like it's like NonStop.

466
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Speaker 6: And that's not even us engageing, that's the people engaging.

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Speaker 3: With each other. Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: So so I think that that's a perfect example of

469
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Speaker 6: how it should be done.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is just the discord, but on on Instagram, on.

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Speaker 5: The folks, Yeah, and a lot of ways.

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Speaker 4: It just gives you an opportunity, right, Like when you

473
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Speaker 4: say awareness, it's like because like the best case scenario,

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Speaker 4: you want conversion, they see the clip, they go to

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Speaker 4: the link in bio, but they leave the platform and

476
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Speaker 4: they go subscribe, but that's a lot of friction to

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Speaker 4: get off of.

478
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Speaker 5: The platform to another.

479
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Speaker 4: But if you follow the Instagram right, and then our

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Speaker 4: next clip, we go from a million to then getting

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Speaker 4: a four hundred thousand, and now our floor is raised.

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Speaker 5: You know, we're then hoping that to.

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Speaker 4: Get small amounts of conversion along the way. But I

484
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Speaker 4: think that's a challenge of like media and content business.

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Speaker 1: It is a clip that freaking gets a million views,

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Speaker 1: I'd be happy for that to convert to ten new

487
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Speaker 1: listeners Like that is the numbers and the reality of

488
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Speaker 1: what a clip can really bring you. I think as

489
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Speaker 1: a podcast audio platform to be fair too, say I

490
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Speaker 1: even get ten, do they only listen to that episode

491
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Speaker 1: or do they subscribe and become a weekly listener? Like

492
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Speaker 1: the retention of a podcast listener, it's really hard, even

493
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Speaker 1: harder to get them to subscribe to a platform like Patreon, right,

494
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Speaker 1: So I do at the end of the year, want

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Speaker 1: to thank all of my patrons who have been rocking

496
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Speaker 1: with me. If you want to listen to the content

497
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Speaker 1: ad free, that's what we've been given over there this year,

498
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Speaker 1: as well as once a month class assemblies where my

499
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Speaker 1: classmates get to join me in a recording. Next year,

500
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Speaker 1: I do plan to bring some more stuff to Patreon.

501
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm really excited. The team is growing, the investment is expensing,

502
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's getting bigger.

503
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Speaker 2: Goddamn it. I'm investing into this because I believe in

504
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Speaker 2: it and speaking up.

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Speaker 5: Kudos kudos to you on that.

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Speaker 4: Like even the we were saying earlier about like we're

507
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Speaker 4: on like iteration three. That's a very normal thing. That's

508
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Speaker 4: what happens, right, Like if people are like, oh man,

509
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 4: he's doing that. You're on forty episodes, right, Like Decisions

510
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Speaker 4: Decisions is in the hundreds, right, Like.

511
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Speaker 1: We almost if we really add up Decisions Decisions, we

512
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Speaker 1: are at almost three hundred on Patreon, and we are

513
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Speaker 1: almost at five hundred regulars. So we're approaching almost a

514
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Speaker 1: thousand episodes of content that.

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Speaker 2: I have done.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure many iterations, many iterations, but like now you're

517
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Speaker 4: doing this in a landscape where like there's just so

518
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 4: much competition. Again to reference like the whole Netflix deal.

519
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 4: The competition isn't even always podcasts, Yeah, and so it's

520
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 4: like all this stuff and so like to to be

521
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 4: able to do this, like it's a it's a gutsy

522
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: thing that you kind of have to like really have

523
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Speaker 4: the stomach for and it's hard.

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Speaker 5: Man. I always say kudos to you.

525
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Speaker 4: I have conversations with like a lot of different media

526
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 4: professionals and people that I speak with. Then like I'll

527
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Speaker 4: reference this show more than like corporate stuff that I

528
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 4: work on, because it's just it's this is like a

529
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Speaker 4: bird's eye view of like really trying to like build

530
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 4: it and get it out the mud. And so that's

531
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Speaker 4: why when we have the million view clip, we're like, yo,

532
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 4: like like that was that shit was like on our own,

533
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like there was no like

534
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Speaker 4: dollars pushed towards that like one hundred percent organic uh engagement.

535
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Speaker 5: And you know it's like we've been building. There's not.

536
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Speaker 4: Like data and a dashboard do we look to make decisions.

537
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Speaker 4: It's guts, right, Like this is not the show I

538
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Speaker 4: want to do. I want it more like this. All right,

539
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Speaker 4: let's do it that way, Let's pivot this way then, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, not only that, I'm I'm excited with the growth

541
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Speaker 1: of this show on audio A King just sent me

542
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Speaker 1: the numbers over and we're inching our way towards one

543
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a month, which like I think you

544
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Speaker 1: you send me why it was like seventy to ninety

545
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Speaker 1: or like we're closed.

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Speaker 6: Like I just want it's the organic process of this

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Speaker 6: thing growing. And I just want to add, if you

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Speaker 6: look at all the great ones, there's never they The

549
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Speaker 6: Combat Jack.

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Speaker 3: Show went through three or four iterations, even JBP.

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about I'm talking about before it was j

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00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 6: I'm talking about before they had the name. I don't

553
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Speaker 6: name this later, look right said we're talking about because

554
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 6: we're always trying to mold and trying to find the

555
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 6: right thing the right people, because we're not doing this alone.

556
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Speaker 6: So that's another part of it, having the right synergy

557
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 6: with the right people to execute this thing, you know,

558
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Speaker 6: of greatness that we're trying to put out into the universe.

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Speaker 3: So it hass off to you, man, it is.

560
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Speaker 2: Night and day.

561
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Speaker 1: I released this horrible Decisions in twenty seventeen. We didn't

562
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Speaker 1: even have video until a year and a half later

563
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Speaker 1: when we joined Loudspeaker's network. I launched See the Thing

564
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: Is on a network on the JBN. Left that after

565
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Speaker 1: a year and completely got into a sales partnership with

566
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Speaker 1: Gumball and did that for an additional two years.

567
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Speaker 2: The landscape from.

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Speaker 3: Twenty seven it's sir cash register here.

569
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Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five when we launched this.

570
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Speaker 1: Those years are like night and day from releasing pods.

571
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Speaker 1: So when I talk to people about even what it's

572
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Speaker 1: like to launch and scale a show, I'm now this

573
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Speaker 1: is my third iteration in a completely different market of

574
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Speaker 1: navigating this space with a brand new show. So I've

575
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: had a great time doing it, and I hope you

576
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: guys have enjoyed listening to the show. Hope you enjoyed

577
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 1: our geek out of the industry as well for the

578
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Speaker 1: intro of this leading into the new year. But let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. Let's get into our favorite episodes, our

580
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Speaker 1: favorite moments, and why I'm gonna leave mine for a

581
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Speaker 1: last because I'm really excited to hear my super producers

582
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Speaker 1: and their opinions on their favorite episode and why. So

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Speaker 1: this time we're gonna start with Jason. Jason, feel free

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Speaker 1: to start with any memorable or you know, moments that

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Speaker 1: you'd still think need attention to, but then let us

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Speaker 1: know your favorite.

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Speaker 4: Episode favorite all right, So I kind of have like

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Speaker 4: one from each I have a couple I have like

589
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Speaker 4: five or six here of my notes. So ones are

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Speaker 4: kind of from like each iteration. I feel like from

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Speaker 4: iteration one, I really liked women in.

592
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Speaker 5: Their biological clock.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I thought, I thought you like hosting that was

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Speaker 4: really well and I thought you did a good job

595
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Speaker 4: of balancing like you know, giving it to your guests

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Speaker 4: and kind of like serving them up, but also you know,

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Speaker 4: sharing your history.

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Speaker 2: And it was difficult.

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Speaker 1: There were three women on their shout out to Killoby,

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Speaker 1: Lexpi and Kiki, and everyone had their kind of different

601
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Speaker 1: things so to fit that within. I think it was

602
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Speaker 1: like an hour and fifteen minutes. That too was one

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Speaker 1: of like my favorite.

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Speaker 5: That was a good one.

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Speaker 4: And then I thought Elements of Privilege was really dope

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Speaker 4: with sitting Ready.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was late for that episode.

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Speaker 4: I got punished, but I thought that one was I

609
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Speaker 4: thought that one was like like that. I thought that

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Speaker 4: one kind of like helped us pivot into like, uh,

611
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Speaker 4: version two still had like a lot of elements of

612
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Speaker 4: the first version, but then kind of had the second one.

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Speaker 5: Then when it kind of got like interviewee.

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Speaker 4: I like the alligator Alcatraz with your mom's okay, yes, yeah,

615
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Speaker 4: I thought, like I know your mom has been on

616
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Speaker 4: like other podcasts viewers, but like that was my first

617
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Speaker 4: time really kind of like being a part and seeing

618
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Speaker 4: her and you and your connection and and you know

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Speaker 4: you being able to treat her like a mom but

620
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Speaker 4: also interviewer at the same time. Yeah, So I thought

621
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Speaker 4: that was good. And then for the versions that we

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Speaker 4: have now, I don't know either, Like I like the

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Speaker 4: holiday ones and Thanksgiving Christmas, but also the Jay Jorden one.

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Speaker 4: I thought we had our like form of what we

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Speaker 4: are for three point zero so good that like Jay

626
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Speaker 4: was able to like just jump right into it, you

627
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Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like it was it was so

628
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Speaker 4: easy and clear for him to see what the show

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Speaker 4: was that, you know, I thought he was like dynamite

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Speaker 4: when he when he got on with us. So, uh,

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Speaker 4: those are all ones that I like, favorite, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: even the Glasses one I thought.

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Speaker 5: Was good favorite. I'm gonna go with Jay Jorden.

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Speaker 2: Jay Jorden, I'm glad that you picked that one that

635
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Speaker 2: was deaf and I.

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Speaker 5: Was talking about cruising, okay and Lady cruising. When we're

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Speaker 5: talking about Lady cruising, I thought it was Hady.

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Speaker 2: Cruising is crazy.

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Speaker 1: That absolutely was one of my favorite episodes of the

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Speaker 1: year as well, So if you weren't able to check

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Speaker 1: out our episode with Jay Jorden, the episode title and

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Speaker 1: number is episode thirty seven, Public Outrage, Digital Racism, Maggers

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Speaker 1: and Cruising, And here's a clip from that episode.

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Speaker 7: I did a show at the Seller the night Charlie

645
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Speaker 7: Kirk died, and the host said weird day for everybody, right,

646
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Speaker 7: and some people laughed and some people a man and

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Speaker 7: so like. Then I was that good information. And then

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Speaker 7: a couple of days from later from that, I made

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Speaker 7: a joke not about Charlie Kirk passing away, but about

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Speaker 7: the fact that they were so quick to try to

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Speaker 7: blame trans people.

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Speaker 5: They're like, oh, the shooter is trans the bullets dating.

653
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Speaker 7: They went, no, actually he took public transportation. We gonna

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Speaker 7: find a way to blame the trans folks.

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Speaker 3: That's the joke I made.

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Speaker 7: But in my opinion, I think if you can threat

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Speaker 7: the needle and really find a way to both make

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Speaker 7: people who are sensitive about this subject and people who

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Speaker 7: really want to laugh, that's a perfect joke. I have

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Speaker 7: a joke about Charlie Kirk now in my current hour

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Speaker 7: that's different than the one on Hulu because I think

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Speaker 7: it's enough time. And I don't even say anything bad.

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Speaker 7: I basically disclosed it. I'm you know, since we tell

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Speaker 7: them truth on here. Oh so I am a one

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Speaker 7: thirty second white. And when I found out I.

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Speaker 2: Was a white man, Buck is a one thirty second

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Speaker 2: white and one.

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Speaker 7: Thirty second white. My great great granddad he was a rapist.

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Speaker 7: And so I won thirty second, Yeah, one thirty second

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Speaker 7: the faction. Yeah, yeah, I'm one third second white. So

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Speaker 7: I say, I say this respectful. That's why respect I

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Speaker 7: say this, just exactly pardon I say this. When I

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Speaker 7: found out I was a white man, I said, oh

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Speaker 7: my god, it's been so hard for us since Charlie died.

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Speaker 6: That.

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Speaker 7: You know, white people laugh at that joke. Some white

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Speaker 7: people they go, he got us. Some white people clap.

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Speaker 2: Some white people go, we got it, Hey, he is white.

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Speaker 3: You missed the point.

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Speaker 2: I knew I liked you.

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Speaker 5: I knew I was seeing something I like.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, and this is why the blacks

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Speaker 1: are surprised that you perform.

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Speaker 7: A white man when I'm when I'm in front black people,

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Speaker 7: I go, listen, I'm a brother. I'm a Brooks brother,

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Speaker 7: but I'm a brother.

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Speaker 1: Playing with you all right, now A kn't. First off,

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Speaker 1: Jason decided to just list her whole goddamn discovered.

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Speaker 3: I know, and now I had to restructure minds things.

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Speaker 2: Just said, actually, I'm going to give you guys, like.

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Speaker 3: The whole run.

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Speaker 4: I was listening last night, I do homework, research, photography.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your favorite moment of the year, and of course

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Speaker 1: any honorable mentions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it was episode twenty Purple Party, Can

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Speaker 3: you be a pro Black Republican?

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Speaker 5: A lot of fires.

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Speaker 3: That one was.

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Speaker 6: That's we definitely touched the boundaries of emotions of people

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Speaker 6: who you know when you see these things pop up

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Speaker 6: on your feed and you're like, Okay, I'm gonna listen

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Speaker 6: to the episode, and then you just get all of this.

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Speaker 3: You're like, oh, you know Ray.

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Speaker 6: Daniels and and Carla, I mean, wow, powerful, powerful, but

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Speaker 6: these conversations are necessarily get you.

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Speaker 3: I think we should definitely do.

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Speaker 6: Return after the midterms, after the midterms, after the mid

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Speaker 6: time is coming up politics.

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Speaker 2: We are gonna.

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Speaker 1: Play a clip of that get off my Girl in

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Speaker 1: the Apple in the Apple reviews, Okay, get off my

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Speaker 1: girls back. It's crazy because, uh, Carla is someone who's

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Speaker 1: so passionate has such different thoughts, views, and opinions than myself,

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Speaker 1: but I really enjoy potting with her.

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Speaker 2: And so here is a clip.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and do a trigger warning because

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Speaker 1: this one got loud and iiicy. H. Here is a

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Speaker 1: clip from A King's Favorite pick of the Year. This

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Speaker 1: is from episode twenty featuring Carlo Will Merris and Ray

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Speaker 1: Daniels Purple Party.

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Speaker 2: Can you be pro Black Republican? Check it out?

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Speaker 1: So me and Carla were having a conversation, and not

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Speaker 1: to get you too ramped up, we're starting with identity

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Speaker 1: rights right now. Because me and Carla had the conversation

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Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, like LGBTQ, they could just

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Speaker 1: live the life however they want to live. They should

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Speaker 1: be able to do whatever they want to do, like

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Speaker 1: their people too. And immediately my question to her was, okay,

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Speaker 1: so what are your thoughts on trans bathroom rights and

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Speaker 1: US sharing bathrooms with them?

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Speaker 2: And her response did you come up with one yet?

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Speaker 2: Because her response immediately was I didn't even finish.

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Speaker 3: She told me to shut up.

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Speaker 2: She got it up. She said, well, well and then

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Speaker 2: you cut me off. First off, we waited for ten seconds.

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Speaker 8: You didn't no, no, no, and I was like, save it. No,

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Speaker 8: I said, you cut me off at home and you're like, wait,

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Speaker 8: save it to.

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Speaker 1: The Mike savor because it took her about ten minutes

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Speaker 1: and she was still thinking.

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Speaker 2: I went thinking, and I wanted to explain myself. So

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Speaker 2: explain the hesitance? Then? In you leaning that way?

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Speaker 1: Because if we're talking policies here, that's what we've seen

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Speaker 1: heavily from the Republican Party is the attack on trans

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Speaker 1: rights essentially, and people being upset that there's now shared

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Speaker 1: gender bathrooms and things like that. So where do you

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Speaker 1: lean with the thoughts on children being able to identify

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Speaker 1: as trans?

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Speaker 2: The bathroom share?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're going because that's where you have semi

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Speaker 1: Republican stances on it.

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Speaker 2: So what are your views there that you stand on.

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Speaker 8: Okay, let's start with the bathroom for the children. The

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Speaker 8: bathrooms I don't. I want the bathrooms to stay women

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Speaker 8: in males, right, A women's bathroom, a man's bathroom. I

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Speaker 8: do believe that a trans woman should go into a

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Speaker 8: women's bathroom. I do believe that a trans man should

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Speaker 8: go into a man's bathroom. Here's where the problem lies

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Speaker 8: for me. I do truly believe that in the media,

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Speaker 8: what we're portraying is these performative people claiming to be

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Speaker 8: trans that are doing it for attention that might not

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Speaker 8: really understand what it's like to be a trans I

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Speaker 8: know trans people. I have them in my life, and

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Speaker 8: they're just regular folks, just like me and you.

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Speaker 2: I have no problem being around the one with the.

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Speaker 8: Pool, having us in the same bathroom, no problem. My

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Speaker 8: problem is when I see what the agenda of the

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Speaker 8: media sometimes when regarding trans people. Okay, it's like these

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Speaker 8: performative wild ship that's just like, oh my god, they're

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Speaker 8: walking around looking like a three hundred pound man and

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Speaker 8: they just put a little bit of makeup on I think,

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Speaker 8: I think, But that's what they're trying to make us

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Speaker 8: thing that has happened. They try to tell us that

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Speaker 8: these trans people are all pedophiles. You know how many

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Speaker 8: men look regular and are pedophiles. You know what I

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Speaker 8: mean is this I don't know if it's an agenda

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Speaker 8: or it is an agenda.

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Speaker 2: Don't if I don't think it. But at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, trans people, of course, you do.

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Speaker 8: Mores trans people that are being shown to us on

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Speaker 8: television and on social media that are trying to get

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Speaker 8: us outraged. It's not what are really people that are

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Speaker 8: really living out here, are true trans life that they feel.

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Speaker 8: Whether I agree with it, whether we're talking about the

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Speaker 8: Bible where I don't give a damn, it doesn't affect me.

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Speaker 8: If you're truly living in your truth. And now that

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Speaker 8: people are like I'm trans baby and want to wear diapers,

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Speaker 8: or I'm a trans dog and I'm a transcar and.

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Speaker 2: You going down.

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Speaker 8: We're being shown and that's what's outraging us about these

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Speaker 8: fucking bathrooms. Let the fucking bitch that's a woman walk.

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Speaker 8: She just wants to peek, she just wants to take

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Speaker 8: a ship. We're not doing anything more than that. It's like,

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Speaker 8: if that's the case, yes, but it's the extra Now

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Speaker 8: there's some people taking.

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Speaker 2: Advantage of that in order to be like, oh, we

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Speaker 2: don't want calm down.

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Speaker 5: They're not doing nothing.

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Speaker 2: You're weird, They're not okay.

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Speaker 5: I totally disagree with that last part.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait till the part where we could just

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Speaker 2: start saying them niggas is crazy, which niggas is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Like my point, listen, here's my things on trans If

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Speaker 2: you want to be a trans anything.

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Speaker 5: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 4: My problem is when you make the world participate in

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Speaker 4: your bullshit, that's your story.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right on Rain, all right, Ray Daniels,

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Speaker 1: I love him real bad. So I have some honorable

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Speaker 1: mentions to get into, and you know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: it's because I really love comedy. Of course, Jay Jorden

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Speaker 1: was one of my favorite episodes, but it wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: right without me leaning into as well, Can Fat People

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Speaker 1: Fat Shame?

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Speaker 2: With Marrow Liz vel podcast. I also can't go without

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Speaker 2: also mentioning.

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Speaker 1: Now they're not comedians, but I absolutely love Can We

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Speaker 1: Enjoy Sports Without Racism? With Kaz and Kevin And someone

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Speaker 1: who also doesn't identify as a comedian, however, has the

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Speaker 1: best dry humor in podcasting. I know you guys tried

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Speaker 1: to cancel him. He is uncanceonable, that's right. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about the Ginger Rory who did Can you separate art

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Speaker 1: from the artists? Now, these were all early on renditions

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Speaker 1: of the podcast that took place at the top of

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Speaker 1: the year, and you know, y'all are probably gonna be like, well,

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Speaker 1: you're choosing this episode because it went viral. But now

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Speaker 1: I'm choosing this episode because I judged a book by

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Speaker 1: its cover. This was a guest that a king booked

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Speaker 1: for the show and a guest who did not do

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Speaker 1: very well at all on my other podcast, Decisions Decisions.

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Speaker 1: My pick for the year, and maybe this is just

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Speaker 1: from a personal lens is absolutely episode thirty four Crimes

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Speaker 1: Versus Morality, Turkey Leg Hideout and hood Swords featuring Glasses Malone. Now,

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Speaker 1: there were so many good moments from this episode, and

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Speaker 1: you know, if you guys want to hear the Drake sentiment,

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Speaker 1: please feel free to head on over and subscribe to

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Speaker 1: our Instagram page at Selective Ignorance Pod. He is the

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Speaker 1: first pinned tweet. However, I really liked our last conversation

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Speaker 1: that didn't even make a clip, and it was our

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Speaker 1: discussion around the ignorance of touring hoods.

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Speaker 2: Check it out here.

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Speaker 1: Now, I want to sum this up into the question

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Speaker 1: being our tours through the hood in poverished stricken communities

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Speaker 1: selectively ignorant. Do you think that that is something that

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Speaker 1: should be shamed or looked down upon or do you

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Speaker 1: think it's enriching? And I asked this because when I

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Speaker 1: traveled abroad, I lived in Singapore for a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: And so what I realized on a lot of the

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Speaker 1: tours they took you through the hoods. The last time

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Speaker 1: I chose to do that, it's something I'm no longer

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Speaker 1: interested in because I think it's fucking crazy and I

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Speaker 1: think actually America is just the hood like it would

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Speaker 1: be like bringing people to.

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Speaker 2: Everye Martin Luther King Boulevard in every city.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: The last time I did it, where I actually felt

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Speaker 1: wrong was in Soweto. So I went to Johannesburg and

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Speaker 1: I went on it's literally a tour of the township

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Speaker 1: of Soweto and it's literally night and day from the city.

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Speaker 1: Johannesburg was beautiful, the buildings, the infrastructure, everything, and we're

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Speaker 1: literally going into this like village where it was like

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Speaker 1: it was really sad. And then what probably ruined it

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Speaker 1: for me too is actually going to the Apartheid Museum

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Speaker 1: and seeing the history as to why this area was

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Speaker 1: like this.

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Speaker 2: And so that was the last time I went.

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Speaker 1: But I did want to ask you as someone you know,

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Speaker 1: who would want to be the mayor of Compton and

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Speaker 1: you know, of course that's an under you know, not developed,

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Speaker 1: but underprivileged community.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on tours and people touring hoods and.

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Speaker 1: Is there a good thing to it or do you

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Speaker 1: absolutely feel like that's ignorant you shouldn't do it.

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Speaker 9: I think it's a great thing.

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Speaker 2: I think you think touring hoods are great things. Okay,

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Speaker 2: talk to me.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 9: I think we have all all the characters that represent

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Speaker 9: an idea.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 9: I think that's another business that hip hop should be into.

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Speaker 3: I think they explain.

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Speaker 9: I think the Trap Museum represents that.

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Speaker 2: Explain.

885
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Speaker 10: It's like you get the culture in a digestible way.

886
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Speaker 10: So I like whoever that photographer is, because it's like

887
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 10: if he takes a picture of every landmark, all those

888
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 10: pictures already exist. Like everybody hides kind of us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the people that grow up poor, they hide the.

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Speaker 10: Flavor like they don't want to be judged by it.

891
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 10: But I think it's something special about people seeing, like,

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Speaker 10: you know, the the culture that makes the town lively.

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Speaker 1: I think taking photos and showing that is different to

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Speaker 1: me than touring it, if that makes sense, Like for me,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and if Antonette was here, she would just

896
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Speaker 1: talk about capitalism, right, But the idea that the hood

897
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Speaker 1: is is like something to be amused by or entertained with,

898
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Speaker 1: which when you think of booking a tour, you're looking.

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Speaker 2: For excitement, You're looking for, you know, different type of things.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if people being in that type of environment,

901
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Speaker 1: or being poor, or being in a home where they're

902
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to feed their family, deserves

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Speaker 1: to have onlookers look at it as entertainment.

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Speaker 2: Either I'm not mad at that.

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Speaker 9: Either I'm not. I don't disagree, you know what I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, especially if they come from a privileged place to

907
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Speaker 1: go and view people who are less fortunate as a

908
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: means of entertainment for a day. To me is like

909
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: and again, I was one of those I wanted to

910
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Speaker 1: see all the things, and a part of me was

911
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: just like, this is so terrible. Like imagine I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: of myself growing up. I grew up on Section eight.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in not great neighborhoods. I grew up

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Speaker 1: in neighborhoods that if you grew up in a better

915
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Speaker 1: neighborhood you knew neighborhood wasn't good. The idea that people

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00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: would drive through to see how we lived like didn't

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Speaker 1: sit well with me. Well, so unless you're doing it

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Speaker 1: from a space of wanting to make a difference.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty, we made it.

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Speaker 5: To the end of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: We definitely hope that you enjoyed this episode.

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Speaker 1: We hope that you also, like if you're a new

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Speaker 1: listener that decided not to go back into the back

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Speaker 1: catalog again, just to let you know, we.

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Speaker 2: Ever green a lot of these topics.

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Speaker 1: So even for some of the topics where you think, oh,

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Speaker 1: I already heard everything that there is to hear about

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Speaker 1: this specific topic, No, we break it down into kind

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Speaker 1: of the outrage that we witnessed on the internet. That's

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Speaker 1: a huge part of what this show I think was

931
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Speaker 1: for me, though I want to lean into current events more.

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Speaker 2: My thing is more of the.

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Speaker 1: Psychological effect on you niglets when I sit and get online,

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Speaker 1: whether it be X or whether it be the shade

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Speaker 1: room comments or whether you know, it's it's just what

936
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Speaker 1: I see everyone talking about in the group chats. It's like, WHOA,

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00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: why did this specific topic get people in such an

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Speaker 1: up woar?

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Speaker 2: What is making them want to dissect it? What is

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00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: making them so passionately and emotionally charged by this sentiment?

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Speaker 2: And so That's what I look.

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Speaker 1: Forward to getting more into in twenty twenty six. I

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00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: think this year was heavy because the Orange Cheeto got

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Speaker 1: into office. So I felt like twenty twenty four and

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00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five was heavily heavily politically leaning, and so

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four it was also heavily leaning into

947
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Speaker 1: hip hop because of the Drake and Kendrick. I think Trump, Drake,

948
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Speaker 1: and Kendrick took over all of our conversations in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four and twenty twenty five. So I'm curious to

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Speaker 1: see what the twenty twenty six landscape brings us, because

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be heavy for either of those

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Speaker 1: three people.

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Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see. Hold on, you don't think

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Speaker 2: hold on ky?

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Speaker 3: I think. I think. I think we're going to be

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00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: in for a treat by who. I think we're definitely

957
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: gonna see a lot of Kendrick this year. I know,

958
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: I know, but not no, no, how we're getting there.

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00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna see finally see Drake.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he got to collab with with Marvel Iceman stuff,

961
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 6: So I think I think we I think that conversation

962
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 6: is going to live for a while look, if we

963
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Speaker 6: go back to the case study here, Nah's and jay Z,

964
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 6: we're still talking about that.

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00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: It's fizzle but even and they're cool now.

966
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: I mean we're still talking poking Biggie.

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Speaker 6: Listen, we're talking and everybody fifty I say, everybody versus

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00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 6: fifty fifty Listen. I think I think fifty cent is

969
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 6: gonna stay in the in the news and in all opportunities.

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00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 6: He's creating this River report, and I know I'm pronouncing

971
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Speaker 6: that wrong, Louiana with the movie stuff and.

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Speaker 2: Just him being who he is, you know, Yeah, I

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00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: do want y'all to know that here on selective ignorance.

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00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: In the most problematic ignorant fashions. This is a fifty

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00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: stand podcast. This is a Drake stand podcast, This is

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00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: a Jake Hole stand podcast, And.

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00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: This is a Kendrick stand not stand. But we fuck

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Speaker 3: with everybody, Okay, no, we do not that is we

979
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 3: fuck with everybody. Oh many, don't fuck with everybody.

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00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 5: Saying we're just we're just what are your own banks?

981
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 5: We just got it, We're in it.

982
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 3: I know, we we gonta let her.

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00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: You see, likely there's some there's always going to be

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00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: pushback from my producers on my stands. But yeah, there's

985
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: there's some people that I'm sure others would like to cancel.

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00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: We're not canceling over here.

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00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 5: I got from a fifty. I got a fifty cover

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00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 5: story somewhere here.

989
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: See look at it.

990
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 5: See I got fine. I gotta find that.

991
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: Think about it.

992
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 5: I gotta treat my ship better. I got better than

993
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 5: hang on cover.

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00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: Listen.

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00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: Anyways, before we get out of here, is there anything

996
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: you want to leave the classmates.

997
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Speaker 3: With for the year. Anything.

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00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: Y'all aren't coming into the New year New year? Knew

999
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: me right Well, whoever you are now, that's where you're going.

1000
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: That's who you is.

1001
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 5: You got here, you can change. That's just the top layer.

1002
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 5: It's always a jay Z bar.

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Speaker 4: Listen, man, I think this is a good ride for

1004
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 4: people who are paying attention. If if it's for the

1005
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: evolution of Mandy, it's a good ride. If it's for

1006
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 4: the business of podcasting, it's a good ride. Like you know,

1007
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 4: I think it's a good project and people should tap in.

1008
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: Same sure, same, same, same. Well, guys, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you have your Uber credits ready for the new year.

1010
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: Please do not get into a car in the driver's

1011
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: sept if you've been drinking. I just always like to

1012
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: reiterate that I am super super super super against drinking

1013
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: and driving, so you will always hear me advocate for

1014
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: safe driving, get you a designated driver, or get you

1015
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: your ass on Uber lift per. There's a whole bunch

1016
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: of options for you. Do not get behind that will

1017
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: and make sure you embrace your family this holiday season

1018
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: we saw with the pandemic. You know you never know

1019
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: when this will be the last time you see somebody,

1020
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: so make sure you cherish every moment.

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00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: Make sure you subscribe you like you leave five stars.

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00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: Selective ignorance is here to stay, baby, and I'm excited

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00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: to grow in front of the camera and on this

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00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: microphone with each and every one of you. I do

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00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: want to end this off, Jason. I don't know if

1026
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: you have our ending somewhere. I gotta remember it. But

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00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: it's selective ignorance. Hold on where controversy thrives. Oh man,

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00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: let me get to it and conversations matter.

1029
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 3: Let's get it matter and.

1030
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 2: Hold it up. God Dad, I know.

1031
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 5: We're going through iterations too.

1032
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 2: We have an ending now.

1033
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: Some of the best MC they forget the lyrics.

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00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 4: Curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter you ex really God.

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Speaker 1: This has been the last episode of twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: of Selective Ignorance.

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Speaker 2: Be you next, ye.

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00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: Nie.

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Speaker 1: Selective Ignorance a production of the Black Effect podcast Network.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for tuning in the Selective Ignorance of Mandy B.

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Speaker 4: Selective Ignorance. It's executive produced to buy Mandy B. And

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Speaker 4: it's a Full Court Media studio production with lead producers

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Speaker 4: Jason Mondriguez.

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Speaker 5: That's me and Aaron A. King Howell.

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