1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the white Tail Woods, presented by 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: First Light, creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: saddle or blind. First Light Go farther, stay longer, and 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: now your hosts case Smith and Tyler Jones. 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: Things are heating up around the country in the deer woods, 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: but it's unseasonably warm out there as well. Is it 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: time for you to get in the stand? Who knows 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: this is Retfresh, Let's go. 10 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: Welcome to Retfresh Radio, brought to you by First Light Gear. 11 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: I'm Casey Smith and Tyler Jones is here with me. 12 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: I'm playing Copol today and he is navigating us to 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: where the bucks are. 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: I think it's all right, super nav. 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: Navigator, and uh, we're heading out on a hunt trip 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: and I'm pretty excited about it. 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: Tell you the truth, Tyler, how do you feel? I 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 3: feel increasingly good as we had the direction we're heading. 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: It's as funny as you as you head more towards 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: no northern latitudes, you feel better about the deer. 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: Hunting you do. And pretty hard to not going north 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 3: when you're in Texas. I'm guarantee you unless you got 23 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: some money, you can head south north. It's the inference 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 3: that's good. We we do. 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: Have some good reports from around the country, uh, from 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: some different folks. A lot of deer already hitting the ground, 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: which is very exciting. And uh man, this time the 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: hype this time of year is uh. I don't know 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: if I can say this word right. Palatable is that 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: how do you say the word palpable? I'm trying to say, 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: like you can you can like taste it, right or 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: something like That's kind of how the context of that, 33 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: it's palatable. 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, palatable. 35 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: That's what them bucks be doing in the scrapes right now, 36 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: just helping or tasting. 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: It in them taste But it's all right, yeah, Tyler. 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: We have been talking some strategy here as to what 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna do. We're gonna just go on a ten 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: day just deer sleigh fest. 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 3: And I don't mean like saying in a sleigh you 42 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 43 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: But it's a good time of year to do a 44 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: lot of different things, maybe even some aggressive things. We've 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: been talking a lot about rattling, and I think the 46 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: jury is out on when is a good time to 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: rattle And that might just be kind of my personal 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: perception because I've had successes and failures at all times 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: of the year doing it, maybe depending on where I'm 50 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: at in the country. So let me just ask you 51 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: a very pointed question, when is a good time to rattle? 52 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: Like what dates are you thinking about rattling? 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: And when is it like still borderline but worth doing, 54 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: and like what's your strategy on it? 55 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: Man, I don't know. I'm not the rattling guy by 56 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: any means. I'd like to hear your two cents on it, 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: for sure, because you probably do it more than I do, 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean it works. Yeah, yeah, yeah, had 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: some experience, though, I would say, you know, right now, 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: it is probably a pretty good time to rattle. I 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: don't know that I would get super knockdown drag out 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: with it. I would try to sound like a couple 63 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: of pre pre rut bucks going at it. But maybe 64 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: I'm wrong, And maybe guys that are in Iowa that's 65 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: like I've seen on Instagram recently have bucks chasing literally 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: as fast as they can run thirty five miles an 67 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: hour or whatever chasing dose. Maybe that does maybe it 68 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: is time to do knockdown drag out but I do 69 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: think of that knockdown drag out stuff's happening in the 70 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: first few weeks in November a lot of times. And 71 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: you know, I also with that, and with that in mind, 72 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: I don't like to go for a long time. When 73 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: I say knockdown, drag out, I mean just like full 74 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: force getting after it for a good solid you know, 75 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: twenty to thirty forty seconds, you know, or whatever, and 76 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: you know, maybe stuff breaking or whatever. You know. So 77 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: I would say that deer will be inquisitive here as 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: the test sawstrone has really come up through the roof. 79 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: And I think with us coming with having temperatures that 80 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: are going to be decreasing here in the next few 81 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: days across lots of the country, be good all the 82 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: way till later November, where you may start to tone 83 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: it back down to kind of some pre rut volumes. 84 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: And you know, those deer have heard it, they know 85 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: what it is at that point, and they may come in, 86 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: if nothing else, just to be a spectator. I think 87 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: that's a big deal. 88 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: And maybe you brought this to my attention a few 89 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: years back, like rattling is somewhat weird to deer at 90 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: the beginning, because they just have it, hurt it in 91 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: a while or whatever, and then they kind of get 92 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: used to hearing it around or something. 93 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: So I thought that was interesting. 94 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: I have a couple of anecdotal things to mention here, 95 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: because I do rattle a decent amount and I have 96 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: had some success, but I mean I've had a lot 97 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: of failures rattling because you don't rattle deer in very often. 98 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: It's not a thing. 99 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you go to South Texas and you 100 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: hunt a really nice place that has a ton of 101 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 2: whitetail deer and you're rattling in quite. 102 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: A few bucks. It might even be high fence, Yeah, 103 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: it might be. 104 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 2: And so like there's this there's this thing. And that's 105 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: where rattling became a tactic, right. It was those guys 106 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: are in the seventies and eighties that kind of made 107 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: that popular, that were doing it in South Texas because 108 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: there's a ton of deer per acre or per square 109 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: mile down there, and that's why it's the thing. 110 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: But it works everywhere. 111 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: All deer, all white tail deer, bucks fight and so 112 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: they do experience that. Last year, I killed a deer, 113 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: not by rattling, but right after he fought another deer 114 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: and that it was like the knockdown dragon. 115 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: I mean there was dust fly. I could see the 116 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: dust flying naked eye from over. 117 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: A mile away, a very wide open country if you 118 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: can't tell, right, Like, they were trying to kill each other, 119 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: and it lasted I would say twelve to twenty seven 120 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: or something like that like that, the true knock. There 121 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: was no like let's push on each other first. You know, 122 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: it was like they knew that it was. They were 123 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: trying to kill each other right away. It wasn't like 124 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: a you know, if you've ever watched humans fight, which 125 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: I'm not really condoning such activities, but if you see 126 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: people in like street fight, all of a sudden, it's 127 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: like we're about, I'm trying to rip this dude's head off. 128 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: If you watch people who are good professional fighters like 129 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: UFC or something, those guys a lot of times they're 130 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: tapping gloves. They're kind of feeling each other out at 131 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: the beginning, you know, kind of dancing around trying to 132 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: just get a feel for things. 133 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: And it's in in the streets. Yeah, and David Bowie, 134 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 3: but those deer were the former. 135 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: They were street fighting, and that was November fifteenth, and 136 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: it was absolutely insane. 137 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: I mean, they were trying to break each other's necks right. 138 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: And by the way, that video is going to be 139 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: on the Element channel pretty soon. 140 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: It's insane, So go check it out if you y'all. 141 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 3: I'll say this, it's supposed to be out the twenty ninth. 142 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's gonna be out the twenty 143 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: ninth because we're, you know, we're on the way to 144 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: some deer country and those don't those the Wi FI 145 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: and deer country don't always mix, so that'll be the thing. 146 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: But that's what we're trying to get it out, you know. 147 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: And I'm really thankful to have been able to document 148 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: that one and I want to share it with you. 149 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: But I will say that I have observed this time 150 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: of year, deer very much do the let's push on 151 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: each other thing, and then as we're doing it, we're 152 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: gonna kind of ramp up a little bit and and fine, 153 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: and then maybe even at the end of it, there 154 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: can be like a little bit of a hey, I 155 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: want I'm gonna run you off type thing because there's 156 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff going on. And I'm no biologist, 157 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: but I aspire to imitate one from time to time. 158 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: Uh. 159 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: You know, testosterone is ramping up continually until it peaks. 160 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: In you know, November for most of the country. 161 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: Uh you know, illogist actually tend to not have too high. 162 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but. 163 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: I think that I found success during this the other day, 164 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: get fired up, laughing and we drive off the road. 165 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: That's good. 166 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: I did rattling a buck on October twenty fifth. 167 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: He was a two year old a deer. 168 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: I decided to not shoot, and he did come in 169 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: down wind, or tried to be down windy, and he 170 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: missed her wind just a little bit, and he was cautious, 171 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: so he just kind of stayed there looking around, and 172 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 2: I played with him a little bit. I snort wazed 173 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: at him, and he he like locked it up real 174 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: hard and then he did it again. He ran off, 175 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: But it was fun. I love rattling in here, and 176 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: I did that tactic. I didn't really start out super slow, 177 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: and I didn't tickle antlers too much. 178 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: I went ahead and. 179 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: Got them together, but I was doing the said a 180 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: clack clack, It's much more of a cranking them together, you. 181 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: Know what I'm talking about kind of they're kind of 182 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: like you said, pushing on your So it's kind of 183 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: a grind more than it is a hit exactly. And 184 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: I think it like bighorn sheep, you know what I mean, 185 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: they don't do that. 186 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: Deer put their heads together and then they and and 187 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: that's the sound that you get all a lot of 188 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: times when you're thinking about natural rattling. And I did that. 189 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: It's actually really hard on your arms. It makes you tired, 190 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: you know, but you're just putting in as much pressure 191 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: back and forth as you can, or a large amount 192 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: at least you don't want to break them. 193 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: And it worked. 194 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: So I think that that could be kind of the 195 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 2: go to on the rattling this time of year. 196 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 3: And they don't have biceps like you. Well, it's all forearms, 197 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: you know. Whenever you're doing that, you got some good 198 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: for I've been doing things, man, I've been doing. 199 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: A lot of farmers walk lately because I feel like 200 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: functionally that's like a very big thing. 201 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: And I think it a because you can be a Mennonite. 202 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah I'm trying to be a farmer, but you know, well, 203 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: men nights, they don't walk. They got cars and stuff, 204 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 2: so well true, I just thought they farmed. They do 205 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 2: a lot of farming, but not all of walking. We're 206 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: gonna do some rattling this week. I think it's gonna 207 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: be a tactic that really works soon. It also sounds 208 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: like there are some other taxes tactics that are really 209 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: working well for some of the guys that are hunting 210 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: around the country this week. 211 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: Tyler, who do we got. We got Chandler Barnes from Kentucky. 212 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: He's a guy who known for a few years. He's 213 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: out there, you know, shooting deer like he always does 214 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: every year, something that makes us jealous. We got Gordon 215 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: Dalton from Virginia out there in East Virginia doing the thing. 216 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: Funny how we met him, but I won't talk to 217 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: you that story some other time. Michael Huntsucker from Heartland 218 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: bow Hunter. He's been out in Colorado. He is the 219 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: man for us in Colorado for some reason. We don't 220 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: know anybody else in Hwai to hunts out there. And 221 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: then we've got Scotty Lego, who's a snow snowboarder up 222 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: in Massachusetts. 223 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: Awesome, let's see what they got to say. This is 224 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: my buddy, Chandler Barns. He's been hunting in Kentucky and 225 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: has had some success. 226 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 3: Chandler, how you doing, man? 227 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 5: Good? 228 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 3: How you guys doing all? 229 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: We're doing real well. Congrats on the big eight point dude. 230 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: It seems like you always getting done about this time 231 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: of year. 232 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 233 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 5: Yes, October, late October is my favorite time to be 234 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 5: in the woods. I've killed a couple on October twenty seventh, 235 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 5: and it's a great time to key in on scrapes. 236 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So do you think that scrapes are the key 237 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: right now in Kentucky? 238 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: Huh? 239 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 6: Yes, Yes. 240 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 5: What I've had luck in over the years is trying 241 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 5: to move my cameras. 242 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: To scrapes in late October. 243 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 5: And I use this little stuff called white lightning. It's 244 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 5: a pure white tail powder and I try to I 245 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 5: don't know if that's in my head or if it works, 246 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 5: but I put that stuff in the scrapes and they 247 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 5: seem to really be active and check them a lot. 248 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: That's cool. 249 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: So are you waiting on a deer to show up 250 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: in daylight on that scrape before you move in? 251 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 5: I will, But it's such it's been so consistent over 252 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 5: the years. Anytime in the tree that I can get 253 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,479 Speaker 5: in late October, the week before Halloween. 254 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 6: Is it's go time. 255 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: Hey, tell me a little more about that white lightning. Man, 256 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 3: I don't it's a powder. 257 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 6: Form, he said, So, yes it is. 258 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 5: I found it through a buddy a few years ago, 259 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 5: and I just you can order it online or anywhere. 260 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 5: But it's a it is a little white can and 261 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 5: now it might be clear now, but it's blue baby 262 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 5: powder looking stuff and you pour it in your scrape 263 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 5: and it's a white lightning. Is the peak dough in estras, 264 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 5: you know, so it's ready to be bred. Well, when 265 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 5: the dough PE's in there, he's thinking that there's a 266 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 5: hot dough in the area, and he comes back a 267 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 5: lot to check that scrape pretty frequently. And I've killed 268 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 5: the last three bucks in October, well, two in October 269 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 5: twenty seventh, and one on October twenty six checking a 270 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 5: scrape because I've put that white lightning in it. 271 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: That's pretty sick. See, I thought you Kentucky boys are 272 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: about your bourbon. But you like the white lightning to yourself. 273 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 3: You know, you're a pretty good trick them. And you 274 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: don't paying it yourself right, because you wouldn't win any alphab. 275 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 5: I have done that before, And I don't know, you know, 276 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 5: but I've seen people do it and say. 277 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 3: It works, so I'm not opposed to it. 278 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 5: I'm not the type that, you know, if I got 279 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 5: a p all pe out of the stay and it 280 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 5: doesn't bother me. 281 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just got to watch which way you're facing 282 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: when the trail cameras around, that's for sure. Are you are. 283 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 2: These mock scrapes or scrapes that are naturally made by 284 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: No I have. 285 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 5: I've never actually made my own scrape. I just over 286 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 5: the years of consistency, they'll use a lot of the 287 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 5: same scrapes. So I just kind of go in there 288 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 5: on their scrapes that they've started in early October, and 289 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 5: then I started about the first week of October. I'll 290 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 5: start every time I go to check my cameras or stuff. 291 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: Like that, all throw a little bit of that powder 292 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 3: in the screen. 293 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: So what are your cameras showing right now? Do you 294 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: have daylight movement yet? 295 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 5: Yes, I've had a lot of I've had a lot 296 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 5: of bucks moving in daylight. It's been very dry here 297 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 5: in Kentucky. We haven't had rain in several weeks, but 298 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 5: it's just the leaves are falling and they're they're feeling theirselves. 299 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 5: You know, they're getting there, they know what's coming. 300 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just that time of year. Man, It's 301 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: it's super exciting. No matter if it's cold, whatever, we 302 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: you know, the deer have to do the thing. I'm 303 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: glad for it. So you think that it's time to 304 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: start hunting mornings yet or are you going to concentrate 305 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: on evenings. 306 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 5: So I've had several buddies hunting the mornings that I've 307 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 5: had and I've had buddies that have success in the mornings, 308 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 5: But me personally, I'm not gonna lie. I've never killed 309 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 5: a buck in the morning. And it's not that I 310 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 5: don't like hunting mornings. I love hunting mornings, but I 311 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 5: just a lot of my spots I have more luck 312 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 5: in slipping in in the afternoon without bumping deer. 313 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 7: You know. 314 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard not to bump them in the mornings, 315 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 5: but I hunt them wide open. 316 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: I like to hunt them too. Yeah, that's how I 317 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: am too, man. I had killed a lot of deer 318 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: in the evenings. But yeah, yeah, so. 319 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 6: It's kind of like a thing. 320 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 5: I want to get that off my chest. Yeah, but 321 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 5: I just have so much more success in afternoons. 322 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's easier to make a game plan sometimes in 323 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: the afternoons. Man, So I hear you on that. Well, 324 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: if you're looking at at trail camera photos and having 325 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: success and and just knowing what's coming up, how do 326 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: you feel about buck movement? What would you rate it 327 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: on a scale of one to ten in the next week. 328 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna be optimistic and I'm going to 329 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 5: give it a seven to eight. I think it's it's 330 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 5: really going to amp up here, seeing that we'll be 331 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 5: seeing a lot of deer hit the ground in Kentucky, 332 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 5: I would say all right. 333 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: I would too, man, I think those are valid numbers, 334 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: especially looking at what time of year we're in. 335 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: Chandler. Thanks for the report, man, and congrats a big buck. Hey, 336 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: thank you guys so much. This is our good buddy, 337 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: Gordon Dalton with blue Ridge Hunting. Gordon. The story of 338 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: how we met is pretty wild, but it's been a 339 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: few years that we've known each other, and you are 340 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: a guy that stays on big Bucks in a unique 341 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: part of the US. You've been out hunting in Virginia 342 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: is where I'm guessing. 343 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 6: Yes, sir, Western part of Virginia. 344 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: All right, man, And so tell us real quick what 345 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: that country looks like. 346 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 6: And it's steep, steep and thick. 347 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 8: This is the Blue Ridge Mountains, western central Virginia. So 348 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 8: it's east coast standards, pretty steep, pretty rugged where I 349 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 8: am at. 350 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: Least got you a lot of oaks around, a lot 351 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: of oaks. 352 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 8: And we're having a pretty good oak year here with 353 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 8: the white oaks, chestnut oaks especially. 354 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 6: Of course the red oaks are good. But yeah, it's a. 355 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 8: Pretty pretty heavy white oak acorn crop this year. 356 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 6: I would say, not like we had. 357 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 8: A couple of years ago, but it's it's definitely, you know, 358 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 8: thick enough that they're they're staying tight up in. 359 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: There, gotcha. So are the Are the oaks the key 360 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 3: right now that you've been seeing lately or are there 361 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: other things at play that you're hunting from? 362 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 8: From what I see, Yeah, it's all about, you know, 363 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 8: the oaks being up high on those ridges. 364 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 6: With the oaks, especially. 365 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 8: In the Mountain Laurel, which is where we usually find 366 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 8: you know, there's the oaks and Mountain Laurel often kind 367 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 8: of go together in the shady parts. 368 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 6: Or up on the ridges. 369 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly that Laurel is betting, I'm guessing or I. 370 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 8: Think so, yeah, betting and cover. I am not seeing 371 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 8: a lot down in the fields, you know, even at 372 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 8: night when I'm driving home, I don't. I'm not seeing 373 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 8: them down in the low grassy areas. They're up in 374 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 8: the up high in the oaks. 375 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 6: Yeah. 376 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: H So from following you on social and just kind 377 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: of seeing the hunt you're doing, it looks like you've 378 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: already got a decent amount of rut movement. Where do 379 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: you think the deer are in the scale of the road. 380 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: Is it like a normal Midwest you know, first and second, 381 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: wait to November? 382 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: Are you ahead of that or what's it like? 383 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 8: I think we're right on track, you know, Like the 384 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 8: more I do this, the more I see this last 385 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 8: part of October. 386 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 6: I think today's what the twenty eighth when we're talking. 387 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 8: And this seems to be like when it when the 388 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 8: older bucks kind of start to pick up. 389 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 6: And that's what I've seen on the ground, you know. 390 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 8: I saw a little bucks chasing the previous week, and 391 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 8: then last Friday, I don't know if you saw it. 392 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 8: I posted a video just on my way to work 393 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 8: of a pretty good buck chasing a dough. I didn't 394 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 8: even realize there was a dot at first. But yeah, 395 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 8: so he started, you know, he was in the game. 396 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 8: And then Sunday I let a really nice buck go 397 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 8: and I'll probably regret that. 398 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 3: That's what I. 399 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 8: They're just starting to get into the game. 400 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So are you transitioned to pinch points yet? Are 401 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: you still trying to hunt sign and find places where 402 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: dere are? 403 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 8: Lately I've been getting up you know, like I say, 404 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 8: in the oaks. This is the time of year where 405 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 8: I start, you know, looking at those scrapes for sure. 406 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 8: I know a lot of people don't want to hunt 407 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 8: over a scrape. 408 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 6: I've had good. 409 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 8: Luck this time of year, specifically, like last couple of 410 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 8: days of October. Maybe in the next you know, into 411 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 8: the first part of November. Yeah, that's that's been my 412 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 8: plan so far. That you're staying tight up in those oaks. 413 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: So you'll you'll do you think in the next week 414 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: you'll stay with those scrapes in the tight cover or 415 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: are you gonna move. 416 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 8: Out As we get into next week, I would be 417 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 8: looking for for some pinch point, trying to catch things 418 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 8: cruising because I don't think you know, that many doose 419 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 8: are coming in yet, but maybe yeah, trying to look 420 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 8: at I mean, I'm always looking for those little terrain 421 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 8: pinch points in terms of in the oaks, like narrow 422 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 8: parts of ridges and little gullies that come up to 423 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 8: the ridges. That's that's what i was doing last last weekend. 424 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: So are you are you using those more than you're 425 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: using like a certain I guess quote unquote feed tree, 426 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 3: like one that they prefer for whatever reason. 427 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 8: So this year I've been hitting areas that have historically 428 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 8: been really really good, you know, with with the oaks 429 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 8: and not so much specific feed trees. Last year when 430 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 8: we had fewer white oaks, that specific tree kind of 431 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 8: thing that seemed to work better. It seems like a 432 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 8: prett a uniform crop this year. But they seem to 433 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 8: like to feed in certain parts. 434 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 6: Of the ridges. 435 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 8: So that's kind of like what I've been looking at 436 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 8: places I've found in the past just from boots on 437 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 8: the ground, you know, just finding those that spot that 438 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 8: they like to be, which I think is more specific. 439 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 6: To like bedding. You know, they're bedding. 440 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 8: In this little oak laurel clump and then they're coming 441 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 8: out to different oak trees near the bedding. I think 442 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 8: it's probably what's really happening there. I like to get 443 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 8: a site near the bedding, but where they come out, 444 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 8: you know, they'll bed down and then they'll get up 445 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 8: and feed a little bit, you know, near their bed 446 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 8: and that's often what the kind of place I'm in cool. 447 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: So with the you know, the the good oak acorn 448 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: crop and then with just the good dates that we 449 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: have coming up here, I know you're excited about getting 450 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: out there and hunting. And if you had to rank 451 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: it on a scale of one to ten for big 452 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: buck movement during the daylight, what are you going to 453 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 2: call in the next week. 454 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 8: For next week, man, for big bucks, I would have 455 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 8: to say probably getting up near eight. Yeah, in terms 456 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 8: of the you know, the year long scale. Yeah, in 457 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 8: terms of movement that that helps us as hunters, Yeah, 458 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 8: seven or eight. 459 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: I agree, man, for sure. 460 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: Awesome, dude, Well, thanks for the report from Virginia and 461 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what you put on the ground. 462 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 6: Yes, they're the same same to you guys. Good luck. 463 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 9: M m m H. 464 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: We're talking to Michael Huntsucker from Heartland bow Hunter and 465 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: he again has been he's our correspondent in Colorado pretty much. So, uh, 466 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 3: if we know any y tail hunters in Colorado, it 467 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: is Michael Huntsucker. That's the only one. Michael has it doing. 468 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: How's it going, man, it's going good. 469 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 7: I'm happy to be happy to be the Colorado of correspondent. 470 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 3: Man, It's it's real pretty out there this time of year. 471 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: It looks like every every year. I'm like, man, the 472 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 3: colors out there are amazing. You know, as we get 473 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: into this late October time period, it seems like you're 474 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: out there a lot in October, but you usually having 475 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: to go back in November. Do you feel like October 476 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 3: is the time to be out there? 477 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 7: You know, it's really depending on the weather, and you 478 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 7: know it also is delegated by the rifle season opening up. 479 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 7: So you know this year, archery season ran until October 480 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 7: twenty fifth, So I always hunt that last full week 481 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 7: of archery. That's gonna be the best, you know, opportunity 482 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 7: you had before rifles. So I always hunt that last week. 483 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 7: And it's really really dictated by weather. If you don't 484 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 7: get the cooler weather and stuff, you don't see the 485 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 7: pre red activity. And then if I don't fill my tag, 486 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 7: I go back after rifle, and obviously conditions of that 487 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 7: time of year typically are a lot better, although somewhat 488 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 7: influenced from hunting pressure. 489 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you. So what's what's the hot ticket 490 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: in the last week or so there? What were you 491 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 3: where you finding bucks? 492 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 7: I was, you know, hunting either you know, kind of 493 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 7: pink points between you know, thick cover, bedding cover, or 494 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 7: hunting some pretty active scrapes that had blown up in 495 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 7: the past week. That was kind of my focus. We 496 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 7: you know, weren't getting a whole lot of daylight activity, 497 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 7: and so I just wanted to be somewhere close to 498 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 7: where I thought they were bedded. That way, when they 499 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 7: did move, you know, right before dark that hopefully we 500 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 7: Las Island. 501 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: What was there any cruising or anything going on or 502 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: were you mostly seeing just a bed to food movement. 503 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 7: We did see a little bit of bucks kind of 504 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 7: cruising a little bit. We saw one buck kind of 505 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 7: following a dough type bumping her and then we actually rattled. 506 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 3: The buck in as well. 507 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 7: So I was doing a doing kind of a blind 508 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 7: rettle on the on the edge of the river there, 509 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 7: and you know, those bucks seem to be fighters, man, 510 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 7: they always you know it seems early to rattle, but 511 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 7: they always bust their racks and bust their times early. 512 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 7: And that's so when that first dough comes into heat, 513 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 7: I'm sure there's always a battle wherever that is. So 514 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 7: I decided to kind of imitate that and actually rattled 515 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 7: in a really good buck that's probably only three years old, 516 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 7: but was you know, every bit of one fifty five 517 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 7: one sixty, so really good up and comer nice. 518 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: So can you go in a little bit more about 519 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 2: the sound of the rattling that you're doing, you said, 520 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 2: imitated that. Are you really trying to make it sound 521 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 2: like two mature bucks you're trying to kill each other? 522 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: Or are you do it more with a tickle? 523 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 7: So I actually usually i start out with, you know, 524 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 7: kind of a softer rat all kind of more like 525 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 7: a spar and then I'll take a break, you know, 526 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 7: for five ten minutes whatever and see if anything comes 527 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 7: to investigate, and then if if nothing does kind of investigate, 528 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 7: then I'll then I'll bang them together a little harder. 529 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 7: And I'm doing this too late in the morning as well, 530 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 7: so you know, blind rattling is a thing like obviously 531 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 7: gets a lot of attention, but you can do more 532 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 7: harm than good if you're just blind rattling in the 533 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 7: middle of a timber block where deer can just circle 534 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 7: right down when so usually in the situations where I'm 535 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 7: blind rattling, I have a hard edge behind me. So 536 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 7: whether that be a river or a big creek or 537 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 7: something that's gonna prevent the deer from getting down wind, 538 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 7: that's that's huge if you're gonna blind rattle. But also 539 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 7: I was I was doing this rattle sequence kind of 540 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 7: later in the morning basically like if there's a buck, 541 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 7: you know, in ear shot that we can't see that's 542 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 7: not in his bed, Like, you know, what do you 543 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 7: have to lose? Like if there's either a buck that 544 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 7: is and here's it, it's going to come, or there's 545 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 7: nothing within earshot and you're not heard anything. So that 546 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 7: was kind of my outlook on it. Obviously a little 547 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 7: more aggressive with that because. 548 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: The week went on closer to the end of the 549 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: week for sure, So a lot of people like to 550 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: think about the moon and how it relates back to deer, 551 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: and I know that there's quite the gambit of different 552 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 2: opinions on it. As we looked towards this last week 553 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: of October, here that we're in the hunting, it's going 554 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: to be a new moon. Do you think that affects 555 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: deer movement or you know, when you may or may 556 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: not see deer on their feet. I don't. 557 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 7: I don't put a whole lot of you know, faith 558 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 7: into the moon phases. As much as I do like 559 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 7: the moon rise and the moon set and the timing 560 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 7: of that, I seem to correlate more deer movement with that. 561 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 7: I don't know what the scientific you know, reasoning is 562 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 7: behind or if there is scientific proof behind deer movement 563 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 7: moon other than obviously ambient you know, light and that 564 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 7: type of thing. But we're also just getting closer and 565 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 7: closer to the rut and those first doughs are going 566 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 7: to be coming into astros. So regardless, you know, if 567 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 7: the weather's right, that's that seems to be the number 568 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 7: one determining factor aside from just the timing of the years. 569 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: Is the weather. So in the next week, would you 570 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: change up your tactic, Sarah. 571 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I definitely would probably get a little more aggressive 572 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 7: and be honting more of the kind of rut style stuff. Obviously, 573 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 7: it's like I said, it's rifle season. So if you're 574 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 7: rifle hunting, you would obviously, you know, be probably areas 575 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 7: where you can see more to where if I was 576 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 7: bow hunting. When I do get back there to bow hunt, 577 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 7: I'll be hunting in in tighter areas, closer to bedding areas, 578 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 7: and more of those rut style stands that are a 579 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 7: little more aggressive that I wouldn't typically do in the 580 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 7: late October. 581 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 3: Gotcha. So in the next week, what do you think 582 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: buck movie is going to be like? On a scale 583 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 3: of one to ten. 584 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 7: Man, I think it's going to be a nine nine 585 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 7: and a half. 586 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 3: All Right, it looks good. 587 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 7: We're finally over this little hump of warm weather and 588 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 7: this cold front's coming in on Halloween. Everybody wants to 589 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 7: kill a Halloween buck. I'm gonna be hunting in Iowa 590 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 7: trying to kill a Halloween buck. But yeah, this next 591 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 7: week looks phenomenal. It does look a little wet, especially 592 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 7: you know across the board in Colorado, in the Midwest 593 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 7: and so but the temperatures drop, they stay down and 594 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 7: you got some good fluctuations of you know, storms coming in, 595 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 7: you know, rain hitting and drying out deer. The bucks 596 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 7: go nuts, you know, right after the rain stops to 597 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 7: go check all those scrapes and hit this, and so 598 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 7: I like what I see for the next ten days. 599 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 7: That's my favorite, my favorite ten days. 600 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 3: Awesome, dude. Well, thanks for hopping on man. I hope 601 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 3: you have a great hunt in Iowa. Appreciate it. Michael, Yeah, 602 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: thanks for having me. We're talking to Scotty Lego. He 603 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: is a former Olympian and now he's an Olympian deer 604 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: hunter because that's all he does all day, right, Scotty. 605 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm just trying my best 606 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 4: to live the dream, you know, as much as I can, 607 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 4: and you know, avoid a real life job, you. 608 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: Know, don't we all, man, aren't we all? That's awesome. 609 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: So you've been in Massachusetts recently? Had some success? 610 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 6: There, is that? 611 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 7: Right? 612 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: I did? 613 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 614 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 4: I actually killed my biggest buck with a bow today. 615 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 3: Oh dude, way to go, wait to go, Thank you 616 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: you kill it? What was the what was the key 617 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: tactic there? Man? I? 618 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 4: Uh, I just I found his little hiding hole, okay, 619 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 4: And I would say decently pressured area. 620 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 6: For acquired some. 621 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 4: Different tactics and some permission. I'll just leave it at that. 622 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 4: But I saw him coming out of the swamp about 623 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: forty five minutes before before dark, and he was walking 624 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 4: away from me. He was about one hundred yards out 625 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 4: and it was decently windy day, and I grabbed my 626 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 4: grunt call grunted out of him like three different times, 627 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 4: pretty aggressive because I wasn't sure if he was walking 628 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 4: he'd be able to hear or you know, could hear 629 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 4: over the wind. And he came in. He circled cut 630 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 4: down wind. I didn't have I didn't have any shooting lanes. 631 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 4: That was right on the edge of a swamp. So 632 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 4: he went straight down wind to me about twenty yards. 633 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 4: Hung there for five minutes, and somehow I passed the 634 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 4: scent test. I don't know if it was a pretty 635 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 4: strong wind like I was saying, so maybe it was 636 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 4: going right over the top of him. But saw a 637 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 4: tail flicker. He turned, rubbed a tree in the swamp 638 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 4: and then jumped out of the open hardwoods. 639 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: And I didn't give them too much. 640 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 4: Time to hang out when I had it, when I 641 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 4: had a twenty. 642 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: Yard so I stuffed him and way to go. That's awesome. 643 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: That's incredible, man. So this this deer, you were close 644 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: to his bed, so you think betting has been kind 645 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: of key. Is the weather going to change and change 646 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 3: anything for you in the woods in Massachusetts anytime soon? 647 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 4: You think, yeah, I mean it's been good. It's been 648 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 4: a it's been you know, decently cold, really cold mornings 649 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 4: these last two days. We are getting some crazy warm 650 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 4: weather coming up. I guess it's going to be like 651 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 4: close to eighty, which you know, it's pretty insane because 652 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 4: it's you know, it's low forties right now. So I 653 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 4: have no clue what that's going to do for deer movement. 654 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 4: Obviously it's not going to be good. But given like 655 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 4: you know, the time of year, October twenty ninth, I mean, 656 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: awesome time to be in the woods. You know, there's 657 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 4: just like peak sign is being laid down everywhere, and 658 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 4: I'm seeing from Osservation a lot of bucks in checking bumping, 659 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: does a little bit of chasing. And then I just 660 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 4: got a a buck on my moultree this today at 661 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 4: eleven o'clock. So that's pretty rare, like at least for 662 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 4: our area getting a buck like around mid day. 663 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 6: So I don't know, I feel like it's we're in 664 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 6: the heart of it. It's getting really good. 665 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 3: So uh, since you have you know, the rut days 666 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: are coming. 667 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 2: Uh, Are you gonna have your grunt call on hand 668 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: throughout this whole time? 669 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: Is that? Is that a tactic? 670 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: If you see a deer that's not range, are you 671 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: gonna grind into ringing closer? 672 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, gotta gotta gotta give it a shot. 673 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: I have it pretty handy. I have it. 674 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 4: I run a little fanny pack, so I got it 675 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 4: right here pack And yeah. 676 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 3: Man, what about blind calling anything that you do there? 677 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: I have dabbled with that before in the past. I've 678 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,239 Speaker 4: had no success with it, but it really made me 679 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 4: think when I when I grunted that end the other day, 680 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, that was like almost one hundred 681 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 4: yards away, and I'm like, geez, I'm like, maybe I 682 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 4: should do some blin some blind calling. But no doubt 683 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 4: he you know, he went directly down wind, so I 684 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 4: it would have to be a pretty strategic location. 685 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely makes sense. So as you look forward to 686 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 3: the next week, we got really good dates. 687 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: There's some hot weather clothes, but there's a cold front 688 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: that's going to hit pretty much most of the country 689 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: later on in the weekend. With all that in mind, 690 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: on a scale of one to ten. If you're going 691 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: to give Buck Movement a rating there in Massachusetts, what 692 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: would you rate it? 693 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 5: Man? 694 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: I gotta go. 695 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 4: If if you're if you're in the box, if you 696 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 4: know where where they're at, and have a basic idea 697 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 4: of maybe a loose pattern, I would I would give 698 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 4: it an eight, all right. I think I think it's 699 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 4: you know, pre damn good. 700 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 3: And if you have no. 701 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 4: Clue clue where they're at, you know, and you're kind 702 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 4: of waiting for the right, I would give it, you know, 703 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 4: five with this this warm weather gotcha? 704 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 3: Well that's awesome, man, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, that 705 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: did make No that makes sense for sure. So Scotty, 706 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: are the Celtics gonna win the championship again next year? 707 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 4: Uh? 708 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: You know I'm rooting for them, honestly, I know I was. 709 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 3: I was. 710 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 4: I was with him for you know, their all their winds, 711 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 4: and now I just have kind of faded off and 712 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 4: I haven't been paying attention to dear season. 713 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 5: Man. 714 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: You know, you got to go out there it was 715 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: and you just forget everything else going on. Man, So 716 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 3: I appreciate you hopping on, Scotty, and uh go get 717 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 3: you another one man? All right? Man? I appreciate it. 718 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: Thank you, brother. 719 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: I'm fired up about some deer Hunting Brothers stories. These 720 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: reports are good and it's nice to uh to feel 721 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: like we're in that time. 722 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 3: Of year, and it for sure is. Man. 723 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 2: We're driving across the country right now, the leaves are 724 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 2: falling off of trees. I'm seeing yellows and reds and 725 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: and corn getting harvested, and there's deer in the fields 726 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: in the evenings like this is the time of year 727 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: that I look forward to every year. 728 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 3: I know it, man, I like to hype about it 729 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: a little bit. 730 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: If you need a little bit of hype in your 731 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: life and you need even some in depth tactics, I'm 732 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: going to give Mark King a little nod here. 733 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 3: Mark does a really good job on. 734 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: His podcast to getting good guests on the show to 735 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: really deep dive into deer hunting tactics. And this time 736 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: of year actually is a really good time of year 737 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: to tune in for this kind of stuff. 738 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 3: So if you haven't seen. 739 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: Mark's episode with Steve Pinkston, you should definitely go to 740 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 2: listen to that. They do a deep dive into tactics 741 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: for killing big bucks, and that's what we are here for. 742 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: Kill big Bucks. There'll be a link for that below. Also, 743 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 2: the Element podcast is well. 744 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: We'll link to that. 745 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: Tyler and I give a lot of our thoughts and 746 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: tactics and tried and true ideas for hunting white tailed 747 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 2: deer as well. 748 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of that comes from us just being 749 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 3: out in the field and we just talked about what 750 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: happened to what we saw the week before. So it's 751 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 3: pretty up to date too. It's almost like a retfresh 752 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: just a little bit different, only you know our perspective. 753 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: There's also one last thing we talked about earlier that 754 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: you need to go do as soon as this podcast 755 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 3: is over before you listen to other podcasts, and that's 756 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 3: go to our YouTube channel and check out what we've 757 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 3: all what we've put out there. But most of all, 758 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 3: like I said earlier, hopefully we have Case's moose that 759 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 3: he shot that actually it would be called a white tail, 760 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 3: but it looks like a movie. Genetically it's a white tail, 761 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: but phonetically there you looks like a mood. They go, 762 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: you go check that out on our YouTube channel. 763 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: This is Reugh Fresh, Keep it Fresh.