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Speaker 1: it all the way back. Week ten of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the twenty in the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft.

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Speaker 1: I am Tim Twentyman, and I'm very happy to welcome

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Speaker 1: in Dave Briquette, Detroit Lions beat writer for the Detroit

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Speaker 1: Free Press. Does a great job over there with the

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Speaker 1: Free Press. And Dave, can you believe it's week ten

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Speaker 1: already in the n credible season? It flies, it goes

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Speaker 1: so fair.

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Speaker 2: I mean thankfully we had to buy, Yes, get a

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Speaker 2: But now it's, you know, nine of these weeks ahead

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Speaker 1: Now it's the stretch run, and you start looking at

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be huge moving forward for them.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt about that. I mean, that is

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Speaker 2: And Tim, I'll tell you this. I was talking to

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Speaker 2: look ahead. He said he actually bought someday ticket during

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Speaker 1: At like that. Well, he's going to have some time

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Speaker 1: And it was the same thing last week when Penne

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the twentym in the Huddle podcast presented

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Speaker 1: Right Tackle the pro bowler Penney Sewell, Penay, thanks for

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Speaker 1: So, look, we were talking about a little bit before

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Speaker 1: Because you know you've got another one this week with

434
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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. Just what you see on film from him

435
00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,040
Speaker 1: and and just what that, Matt, what do you expect

436
00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,119
Speaker 1: from that matchup? And how excited are when you when

437
00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,320
Speaker 1: you face some of these you know, top guys. You

438
00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,240
Speaker 1: look what you did with Max two weeks ago, how

439
00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,560
Speaker 1: well you've been playing and going against these guys. You

440
00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,080
Speaker 1: look forward to these big time matchups.

441
00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,520
Speaker 4: Oh, without a doubt. I think it's because you're in

442
00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,879
Speaker 4: the league for a reason. You're trying to go against

443
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,240
Speaker 4: the best, and uh, some players their prime doesn't last

444
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,440
Speaker 4: too long. So if you can kind of get in

445
00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,119
Speaker 4: the action when it does, you just got to be

446
00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,040
Speaker 4: grateful for that type of matchup. But yeah, another great

447
00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,920
Speaker 4: matchup with Joey. Uh, lots of things stand out as

448
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 4: a player. But he's very smooth, not a lot of

449
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,240
Speaker 4: wasted movements, and uh, very technical with his hands and

450
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,960
Speaker 4: uh the intent with this with his feet kind of

451
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,040
Speaker 4: tie in with his hands, which also makes him a

452
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 4: really great player. So, uh, it's gonna be another good one.

453
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Speaker 1: So and it's a it's a good duo. I think

454
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Speaker 1: Deck's gonna have his hands full on the other side

455
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Speaker 1: with with obviously, you know Khalil Mack's been doing this

456
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Speaker 1: for a long time. How much harder is it to

457
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,600
Speaker 1: face a team when they've got kind of booking guys,

458
00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,760
Speaker 1: when they've got two guys and you know, no offense

459
00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,160
Speaker 1: to to Las Vegas, but you kind of knew Max

460
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,879
Speaker 1: was the guy right and you can maybe you know,

461
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 1: generate some protections, move some stuff over, give you a

462
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 1: little bit of help here and there. When you got

463
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Speaker 1: two bookend guys. How much more difficult is that to

464
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Speaker 1: handle as an offense?

465
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 4: Definitely is more difficult, just because now you got to

466
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 4: pay attention to two players, and now both tackles have

467
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 4: to be really locked into every play and really be

468
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 4: locked into their technique. So me and Deck, we know

469
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,000
Speaker 4: the matchup that we got and we just we got

470
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Speaker 4: the big hat.

471
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Speaker 3: So it was funny.

472
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Speaker 1: We had Stan Campbell about their past Rush and Bosa

473
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Speaker 1: and Mack, and he was very very quick to turn

474
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Speaker 1: the subject over back to you and to Decker, and

475
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 1: he said, we got some pretty good tackles over there

476
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 1: that play pretty good football too. When you look across

477
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,400
Speaker 1: the way the other side at Decker, do you view

478
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,479
Speaker 1: him as a as a kind of undervalue persons league wide.

479
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean, does he doesn't get the credit I think

480
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 1: maybe he deserves and and just talk about what he's

481
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,399
Speaker 1: meant for you coming into the league and just how

482
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Speaker 1: good of a player he is over there on that left.

483
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 3: Side, oh Man, extremely underrated. In my mind, he's top five.

484
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 3: I try to compete with him.

485
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 4: I don't really make it known, but like every time

486
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Speaker 4: I see him do something great, I'm just trying to

487
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,239
Speaker 4: top it and I just trying to try to be

488
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 4: better than it because he does a great job, especially

489
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 4: in past pro I think a lot of people don't

490
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 4: know old line play like that. But he's out on

491
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,920
Speaker 4: the island at times and he has the big hat.

492
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 4: So just seeing him go to work and just inspires

493
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Speaker 4: me and motivates me to even go even go further.

494
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Speaker 1: I think people on the rate the league would probably

495
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Speaker 1: say that you're a top five tackle. And we're not

496
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,640
Speaker 1: just talking about right tackles here now, we're talking about

497
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: the tackle position in the league. I mean, you've gone

498
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 1: three hundred and twelve you know, pass reps with help

499
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Speaker 1: giving up a sack. I think you've been up one

500
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 1: quarterback Sack. Just talk about your play and just how

501
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 1: comfortable you are kind of settling into your third year

502
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: becoming kind of one of the best tackles in the game.

503
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Speaker 4: No, I appreciate that, but I think it's just kind

504
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 4: of getting more comfortable with the game, not a year

505
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 4: three playing right tackle now, not having a focus on

506
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 4: flip in my fee and trying to engage different types

507
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 4: of muscles. So just being comfortable with that and also

508
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 4: the game plan. I'm trying to lock into the snapcom

509
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 4: more and not just thinking what do I gotta do,

510
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 4: How I got to do it?

511
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 3: Like my mind's just slowing down, and.

512
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, getting the whole band back together again, that's what

513
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Speaker 1: could you know. We talked to Jonah earlier in the

514
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: week and he kind of made that comment. I think

515
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Speaker 1: it's been seven different offensive line combinations in eight games

516
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Speaker 1: for you guys.

517
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Speaker 3: I don't even know. Yeah, to start the season, Yeah, yeah,

518
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 3: it's to.

519
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 1: Get you know, Frank back, to get Jonah back. Obviously

520
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: Graham's playing great football right now. To kind of get

521
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: that that start starting five. I know it's a little

522
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: bit different than Week one, but to get your guys

523
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Speaker 1: back healthy, have everyone back. What you're looking forward to

524
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: that finally for a week, and a good week to

525
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Speaker 1: do it, maybe against these guys.

526
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Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, perfect time, just like you said. But I'm

527
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 4: excited to see the boys go to work. That's really

528
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 4: the main thing to me when I turn on the

529
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 4: film after a game and just seeing Janah run off

530
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 4: the ball, great hands, and then Fridnye doing his strong,

531
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 4: strong as ever so and then Graham's playing playing phenomenal.

532
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 4: So just seeing them go to work and playing with

533
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 4: them is just such a blessing. So I just can't

534
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 4: wait to really enjoy that time with them.

535
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 1: All Right, I gotta ask you this because Friday practice

536
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 1: is coming up. It's Thursday, So if you guys out

537
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 1: there don't know, on Fridays, you guys at the beginning

538
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: practice get an opportunity to run routes with the quarterbacks

539
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,719
Speaker 1: you left. This is something I feel like has been

540
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 1: started to be been taken seriously in the offensive line room.

541
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: First question is who's got the best hands amongst the group,

542
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: And so every Friday, you guys get to run kind

543
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: of go routes quarterback story of the ball. I know

544
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: Kyote tries to say that he's got the best hands

545
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: really in the offensive lineup. He's pretty serious about it.

546
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: I'm just curious your thoughts on who you think has

547
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: the best hands in the group, and I'll give my

548
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: my thoughts as well.

549
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 3: But I want to hear you first, humbly. I don't

550
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 3: think that's a I don't got to answer that one.

551
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 3: But everyone knows everyone else.

552
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: And I would agree that I think it's you.

553
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 3: Are you?

554
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: We saw it a little bit?

555
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

556
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: Was it last year? Yeah? Again? Misorder you ever? Yeah?

557
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: Last Yearainst Minnesota got a chance to catch the football?

558
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: Are you excited for anxious? Do you get Ben's ear

559
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: at all? For an opportunity to get your hands on

560
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: the ball. But we saw it this year picking up

561
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: the fumble and mean running with it. You want to

562
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: get into space a little bit?

563
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 3: I want to?

564
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you always wanted, But I trust Bend. Ben comes

565
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 4: up with all the all the plays and he's very

566
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 4: creative with it. So whatever he throws my way, so

567
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 4: I take it. So, but I haven't been in his

568
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 4: ear about it, but just looking forward to it.

569
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens because guys have said they think pound

570
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: for pound, you're probably the best athlete the team. A

571
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: lot of guys say, I know Dan has said that too.

572
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: You probably play some tight end in this league.

573
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 3: I got to lose at least one hundred plus pounds.

574
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: That's even a conversation. I'm at three thirty seven right now, so.

575
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: You don't move like a three thirty seven.

576
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, try to move fast as possible.

577
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: So you're coming off the by you guys are six

578
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: and two, you're in a good spot. But Jared and

579
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: Ben both this week has talked about there being more

580
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: kind of meat on the bone offensively. Do you guys

581
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: view that in your room too? And is that the

582
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: exciting part about being six and two? Knowing that you're

583
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: six and two, but you're still really outside of Carolina,

584
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: haven't really played a complete game, and you guys can

585
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: still get a lot better offensively.

586
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like they said, man, there's a lot. There's

587
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 4: a lot out there, and we took some time coming

588
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 4: back off that bye. It really kind of self scout

589
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: us a little bit. So after watching that, there's so

590
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 4: much on the bone. So that's really just like you said,

591
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 4: it is an exciting part that we can go out

592
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 4: there and really make those players even better. And it's

593
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 4: just that chemistry too, and with all the old line

594
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 4: coming back. Just like you said, that's very important. So yeah,

595
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 4: it's a perfect time to really start hitting our stride.

596
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 4: So we're just going to be working at that house.

597
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: Fatherhood treating you man.

598
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 4: Fatherhood is great. It's the best thing. A year old.

599
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 4: He just turned one November.

600
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: So sleeping through the night now a little bit, Yeah,

601
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: he has a couple of rough nights, but for the

602
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: most part, yeah, he's sleeping through. What your favorite part

603
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: of fatherhood?

604
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: Being a father.

605
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: Myself, I kind of know where you're at.

606
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 4: So I think it's just the way he just looks

607
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 4: at me and smiles every time I come home. That right,

608
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 4: there is just nothing else in the world matters. I

609
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 4: go into tunnel vision. It's all about him. So with

610
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 4: that precious smile, man, it just makes me just think

611
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 4: about how bad I want this lifestyle for him to

612
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 4: just not even worry about a thing growing up.

613
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's finish with this Ford field. It has

614
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: been such a home field advantage for you guys. You

615
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: got a couple games coming up here after the trip

616
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: out to La Just what's that atmosphe been like, It's

617
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: just how big from a player's perspective, has that home

618
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: field advantage.

619
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: Ben for you guys, it's been huge, man. I think

620
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 3: everybody can see it.

621
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 4: Some of the presnap penalties that the fans have been generating.

622
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

623
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 4: And sometimes I can't even hear myself think when the

624
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 4: defense is out there and it just the whole stadium

625
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 4: feels like it's moving a little bit. But I also

626
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 4: want to say, I appreciate you all the fans that

627
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeo Seoul out there.

628
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 3: I hear y'all. Now that's love for real, That's that's awesome.

629
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: Where you guys hit the road, it's a big win

630
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: this week, and then you got a couple at home.

631
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: You're six and two, your healthy, healthier than you guys

632
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: have been since Week one. Rejuvenated a little bit, go

633
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: out west, get a big win, come back home and

634
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: keep it rolling. Sir, thanks for taking the time. I

635
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: appreciate you.

636
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: Thank you,