WEBVTT - Government Showdown and Target Shutdown 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.480 Native Lampod is a production in partnership with Resent Choice 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:04.720 Media and iHeartRadio. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.600 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:11.560 Welcome, Welcome home, y'all. This is episode seventy of Native Lampod. 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.680 I am your host, Angela. Right, this is your host 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:17.680 Andrew Gilliman. This is your host Tiffany Cross. We are 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:21.920 thrilled to be yes, all right, what's up? We are 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.160 thrilled to be with y'all today. We have a lot 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.720 to get into. What do y'all want to talk about today? 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.280 I'm excited a topic. This is Angela's topic that she chose, 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.559 but I'm super excited to talk about it. Angela had 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.680 the opportunity to go down to Selma for the sixtieth 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.560 commemoration of Bloody Sunday, which is, of course, when black 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:44.440 folks cross the Edmund Pettis Bridge to fight for voting rights, 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:46.479 and so angel was on ground and wanted to talk 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:51.000 about what has changed since Selma and I'm salivating at 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:52.159 the opportunity to get into that. 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.120 I love that. I love that. Well, ladies, I wanted 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.720 to just bring up while it may be on this 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:03.840 top because the sixty letters at the federal government Department 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.679 of Education civil rights divisions sent to college and the university, 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:12.680 really cracking down on protests on college campuses and essentially 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.559 saying that these sixty institutions that are now under federal 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:22.400 investigation need to do better to protect Jewish students. And 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.319 I just want to explore a little bit at what 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.360 costs how this differentiates between how the Civil Rights Act 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:32.200 has been used previously in its application to make universities 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.119 of a welcoming environment. And would just love, love love 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.559 to dialogue with you all about where we could potentially 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.839 see this go when we think about DEI and other 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.600 efforts by the federal government to basically squash it out 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:46.880 of any governmental institution. 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:49.120 Add it, thanks, Andrew. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.680 I want to talk a little bit about this pending 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:55.920 government shut down and this continuing resolution which is essentially 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.640 a budget stopgap measure that passed the House. 0:01:58.720 --> 0:01:59.680 Before we recorded. 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:03.560 It's being considered right now in the Senate as we record, 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:07.680 and we'll talk about what are congressional democrats getting wrong 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.639 about the urgency of the moment with the stop got 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.880 measures the backdrop. And of course we're going to get 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:14.680 in the target fast because that's what black folks want 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:15.320 to talk about. 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.239 Everywhere right now. So welcome home, y'all. We're going to 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:17.920 dive into the show. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:25.000 Welcome home, Hi, Native Lampard. My name is Rachel. I 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.120 live in the Bronx, and I'm just coming to you 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.760 with a pretty important question to me right now, which 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.880 is in regard to boycotts. Currently, there have been a 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:39.800 lot of boycotts of various corporations, are calls to boycott 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.040 various corporations, and I just want to understand how we 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:47.639 do that effectively without hurting the folks that we don't 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.720 want to hurt. In this very integrated economy, I think 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.679 we are in a very different economic space than we 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:59.400 were in the nineteen sixties. And while it's understandable that 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:05.919 we boycott some places, others are pretty wide reaching, have 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:11.519 multi cultural workforce, employ a lot of black and brown 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:19.360 people specifically, and lost in revenue may first hit them 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:25.600 before it hits the pockets of the large corporate owners 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.520 of these places that we definitely do want to hurt. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.560 But how can we be more strategic about how we 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:38.840 go about these boy cass considering that integration of our 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.680 economy and that we don't want to hurt black and 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.480 brown people. And other folks who are working class. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:50.920 Power concedes nothing without a demand. Target feels our demand. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.000 I want to thank you. Over one hundred and forty 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:59.960 thousand people are standing strong against the injustices practiced by Target. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:04.000 We believe if we are spending twelve million dollars a day, 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.160 then you need to respect us. We absolutely believe if 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.280 Target is one of the largest employers of black people, 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:15.160 second only to the federal government, you need to honor us. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.760 And so people by the thousands are pulling off and 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:20.000 not pulling into Target. 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:24.640 Their stock has dropped by thirteen percent, lowering it by 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:28.760 twelve dollars a share. They've already lost over two billion 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:33.320 dollars in their value. I'm so thankful we're just getting 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.880 started and we ain't gonna let nobody. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:36.360 Turn us around. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.440 I need you to sign up at targetfast dot org 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:40.440 right now. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:44.159 Because the movement is moving. We won't stop till we 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.800 get enough. Stay plugged in and. 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:48.960 Let me find out we ran a commercial. Jamal, We 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.680 love you for real, but I'm gonna tell you this 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.640 right now. You guys, I signed up on targetfast dot 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.120 org to support what they're doing, and I was floored 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.080 by some of the things that they listed the like, 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:05.760 the thoroughness of the demand, the thoroughness of the approach, 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.520 the ways in which they carefully and strategically, almost surgically 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:13.000 laid out what should be happening since last week Ash 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.839 Wednesday on the target fast for forty days. So I'm 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.720 eager to hear what you are. I have to say, clearly, 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.160 I like it. I want to hear what y'all think. 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:25.760 I'd love it, you know. I just want to first say, 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:31.200 for our viewers to understand what Pastor Jamal Harris Bryan 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:36.360 is going through. There have been protesters outside his church 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.359 since he's been on the forefront of this fight and 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.320 very outspoken civil rights leader. Is not just a fast 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:47.040 that he's promoting, but he's actually, to Angelo's point, thinking 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:50.719 through long term strategy that I'm sure we'll be talking 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:54.360 about in the weeks to come on this show. The 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:56.800 last that he referenced the protesters who were in front 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.200 of his church, they were holding up signs talking about 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.560 free Derek Chauvin, who is, of course the police officer 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:08.560 who murdered George Floyd. So he really is putting himself 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.360 in harm's way leading this charge. So I just first 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:16.520 want to express my gratitude because that's what it takes, fearless, 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.280 bold leadership that we're not seeing in some of our 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.880 democratic institutions, that we are seeing in some of the 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.360 different sectors out here that promote us Black consumers have 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.200 reached a two trillion dollar buying power, that's according to Nielsen, 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.160 and we have to start thinking about how we want 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.200 to exercise that buying power. And I will say it's 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:38.240 really challenging, you know, because the target is not the 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.480 only place, But we have to start somewhere and build 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:45.000 momentum from from that. But my former employer, Paramount, who 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:46.880 is of course the parent company for v E, t 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.520 v H one and a bunch of other media outlets, 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:55.200 they are proactively reconsidering their DEI approach because of the 0:06:55.240 --> 0:07:00.120 Trump administrations. Corporations are proactively capitulating to this administration. So 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.840 I do think that we have to start considering how 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.640 we want to exercise the buying power of two trillion 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:10.360 dollars in this country and hit them where it hurts. 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.679 And if you target white man's money, I just feel 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:13.840 like that's when you get attention. 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.200 I feel that I feel that I want to go 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:23.600 specifically to this question of the market today and the 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:29.200 interrelatedness of industry and our economy is different today than 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:33.160 it was in the sixties. That is true and in truth, 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:37.000 and Reverend Bryant Bishop I like to call them mention 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.640 this on the offset that power sees nothing without a 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:44.240 demand and boycotts, especially in this time where we have 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.720 black folks who are vendors to target. The good news 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.800 is that most, if not all of them are able 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:54.040 to still direct sell you their product in addition to 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.280 having it on store aisles. But I think we have 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.920 to consider with this question of who we be hurting 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.800 and could we potentially be hurting one of us who 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.480 have worked hard gotten their brands on the shelves and 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.520 so on and so forth. And I would say one, 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.080 we do want to do everything we can not to 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.320 hurt those individuals, which is why going to them directly 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.400 and bind the products that you want from them is 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.200 the next best thing we can do if we can't 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.000 get it off of a shelf. But we have to 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:26.360 demonstrate a discipline to do that. But boycotts are about 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.840 the dignity and the strength of all of us, and 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.640 it prioritizes the dignity and strength and respect for our 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:39.200 community above what any one individual who may be benefactor 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:43.040 benefiting on the back end might get by way of 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:48.720 sales as a provider on a Target platform. So I 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.640 guess what I'm saying is is, while I love many 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.840 of the people who I know who are African American 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:58.440 black women mostly who are doing their biz with Target, 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.240 they've come up with their own set of demand and 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.480 expectations that they want from the company, and the best 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.920 thing we can do is demonstrate that we have their backs, 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.400 even within that corporation by saying, look, if you don't 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:15.240 pay attention to black money, black green dollars, then you 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:20.280 are missing a huge swath of the economic opportunity that 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.800 exists for this corporation, this brand, so on and so forth. 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.840 And to my colleagues and friends, point Tiffany that a 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.680 lot of folks are getting ahead of the government and 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:34.920 basically the corporations are redefining DEI or dismissing it summarily 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:39.080 without being asked necessarily by the government, basically trying to 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:43.360 curry favor. There are also organizations, entities, corporations who are 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:47.079 on the opposite side saying we're doubling down in our work. 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.200 We're not getting rid of this, we're not deprioritizing it. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.600 And so I guess what I say is Target made 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:56.439 a choice here, as have other companies have made a choice, 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.640 and now is the consumer. It's important for us to 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.720 make a choice as well. And this is the last thing. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.120 The Montgomery bus boycott, which I talked about on my 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:10.080 solo pod on Monday, was initially scheduled to be a 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:15.280 one day protest in Montgomery. When that day came November fifth, 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.040 and the city buses all across Montgomery were empty of 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.439 black riders, it shocked the system and white folks and 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.400 the city had no idea what was happening and what 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:29.199 was coming. Well, y'all, they felt so good at the 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.520 end of that day, they said, let's extend this thing further. 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.439 We got to keep it going until we bend them 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:37.840 toward our will. And three and eighty two days later, 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.880 the people won. So I'm just saying, these things take time, 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.520 but we can absolutely bend it toward our will. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:49.320 I have a question for Angela, because we know Melissa Butler, 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.160 friend of the show and friend of ours. She is 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.040 the CEO of the Lip Bar, and we all love 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.960 boss Lady her lipstick. She's also carried by Target, So 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:03.400 show Melissa some love. But again, I think it's important 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.160 to explain to people how we can keep this boycott 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:11.040 up but also support people like Melissa Butler and the 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.720 lip bar Like can we go to their websites? Also, 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.440 your friend I met her, but I don't remember her name, 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.839 but you had on this really cute outfit. I was like, 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.160 who is that? And I think Kilani? Is that her name? 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:22.239 Klana Barfield? 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.240 Kalana Barfield, who also has a line in Target. How 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.040 can we make sure? Because Andrew brought up a really 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.040 good point like do they have websites where we can 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.479 go directly to them? Like how are they protected? 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.800 Yes, Kolana was part of the Black Creators program that 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.040 was launched through what the Trump administration would now now 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:44.720 totally brand as a DEI component of Target's work. So 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.680 she was one of the creators and Sergio was one, 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.880 fey Noel was one. So Kalina doesn't have an ongoing 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.320 line with Target, although she's consulted, and I don't know 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:55.480 the status of that contract. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.920 I apologize that I know this questions coming. And Melissa, 0:11:59.080 --> 0:11:59.640 you can. 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.560 Definitely purchase her products at the libbar dot com and 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.200 she's encouraged people to do as such. So I know 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:09.120 that phase two is starting with this target fast dot org. 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:10.920 I encourage people to go to the website one so 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.960 you could see the many things that Jamal Bryant has 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:18.720 put together with a number of colleagues and acquaintances of ours, 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:23.440 including to Mika Mallory, including Nina Turner and others. But 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.400 the faith community is deepening down into this. I think 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.280 that it's important for us to understand that we can 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.000 always support our brands, and we know how to find 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.600 things like concert tickets. We know how to find things 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.760 like our movie tickets and things that where we want 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.200 to go see and participate, we figure out a way 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.199 to get there. So, if you want to continue to 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:45.760 support these brands, and you want to show American corporations 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.520 or international corporations for that matter, if they're going down 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.440 the same troubled road as the Trump administration what you're about, 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.000 support your own and I think that there's never a 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:56.160 better time than now to. 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:56.760 Do just that. 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.520 Next after the break, we'll be talking about a looming 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:04.000 government shutdown and whether or not the Dems can hold 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:16.880 their nose and vote for the right thing. So with that, 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.719 speaking of shutting things down, stock markets and all, you 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:25.280 want to get into government shutdown potentially the continual revolution. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.600 Give us, give us the word, madam from the hill. 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.080 Well, let's go to a question on this first and 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:33.120 we'll jump right into it. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:37.280 Hey, what's up Native Lands? Craig again in Brooklyn, Angela, 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.559 Tiff Andrew Will. Hope you guys are doing well. I've 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.640 just been thinking about a lot about the chaos that 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.840 has been going on lately in government. It feels very 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:52.160 apocalyptic to me. But that's a whole other conversation. But 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:53.040 my question is this. 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.440 When I think about the Republican Party, I think about 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:02.439 a party that is very strategic, very effective in their messaging, 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:07.280 but they're major flaws or courses that they lie. When 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:11.160 I think about the Democratic Party, I see a party 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:16.319 that is very piss poor in their messaging, despite what 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:21.080 their good intentions may be. So we got one side 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.600 that's lying but is good at it, and another side 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:29.040 that is really bad at their messaging and gets in 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:33.240 the way of whatever they want to do. So my 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.960 question is this, what the midterm election is coming up, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:44.400 How can we as a community educate our voters or 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:50.440 potential voters out there without using big ginormous concepts like 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:56.560 constitutional crisis or threat to democracy or oligarchy and all 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:57.480 those different things. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.120 What are some ways that we can them where they are? 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.440 Yeah, the question in summation, thank you number one for 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:11.080 sending that in, is why are democrats so bad and messaging? 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.000 Maybe it's because the truth is harder to package with 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:15.960 a nice little bow. I don't really know, but I 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:19.600 don't think it's fair to say all Democrats are ineffective 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:24.000 in their messaging. Historically, in recent history, at least aoc 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:28.360 Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has broken through, and so has Jasmine Crockett, 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.600 among many others. The backdrop I wanted to talk about 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.200 this in is HR nineteen sixty eight. 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.560 Imagine that name, which. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.800 Was the continuing resolution that the House of Representatives passed, 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:44.040 and now the Senate is considering that if it passes, 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:49.479 would prevent arguably a government shut down, when in actuality, 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.960 I believe that the government has been shut down since 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.000 Donald Trump was worn in. 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.040 That is my argument that from. 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:59.120 A good place, a good faith perspective, that the government 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.080 has been shut down once this man gave the keys 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.440 to this South African front Elon Musk who has been 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.600 going rogue and slashing with his chainsaw across government agencies 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.240 without regard for how it would impact the American people, 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:17.400 the taxpayers that fund these varying entities and programs. So 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.600 to me, it's been shut down, and I think the 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:23.160 Democrats and Republicans of good conscience wherever they may be, 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.760 had an obligation to vote against that bill. But instead 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:31.040 of doing that, most of the Democratic Caucus held together 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:31.840 under Hakem. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.680 Jeffrey's leadership. But there was one, because. 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:39.760 There's always one named represented Jared Golden from Maine, who 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.520 voted against the bill, despite almost ten percent of Maine 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.680 being on something called main Care. A lot of people 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.160 when they hear Medicaid and Medicaid being cut and watching 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.120 Congressman Green standing up with a cane and saying, hey, 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.160 you don't have a mandate to cut Medicaid, people don't 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:01.240 know that a lot of them are on Medicaid. Like 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.400 in Washington State, it's called Apple Care. In Maine, it's 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.040 called main Care. So there is almost ten percent of 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:13.399 the state that is on main Care. Like, were you 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.639 thinking about these people when you voted for this legislation 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.840 not to mention a billion dollars and cuts to the 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.800 district of Columbia where many of them have their second homes, 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:29.280 where many of their staff live. Like you're cutting like necessary, 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:34.000 certain necessary services for people, all to prove a point 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.680 and to say to Donald Trump and to Elon Musk, 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.639 I'm just gonna keep giving you this rubber stamp. 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:40.000 And I think that's the messaging. 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:44.399 There was one Republican, Thomas Massey, who voted against the 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:48.080 measure and stood with Democrats. So essentially, Jared Golden is 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:48.640 a net net. 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:49.359 It doesn't matter. 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.040 But I do want to raise three other votes in 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.760 recent history that are questionable from Jered Golden. I think 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:58.800 it gives our audience every reason to call him to 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:04.440 question where his allegiance lies. So he voted with Republicans 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:08.760 to overturn President Biden's student loan debt cancelation plan. 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.280 This was in May twenty twenty three. 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:16.359 He voted against a package of gun control measures in 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.920 June of twenty twenty two, including raising the minimum age 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.840 for purchasing a semiotic rifle from eighteen to twenty one, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:25.920 and the last one, I want to call you all's 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:27.879 attention because I know it's near and dear to the 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.840 three of us is the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act. 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.800 Jared Golden was one of only two Democrats to vote 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:40.640 against this bill, expressing reservations about qualified immunity for law 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.840 enforcement officers, the same law enforcement officers who no longer 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.560 have to be submitted through a database through the Department 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.880 of Justice because Donald Trump overturned that too. 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.200 So congratulations, Jared Golden. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.119 You just gave Elon Musk not only the keys to 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.000 Tesla and SpaceX, but the key to the government with 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:01.199 all of your constituents data and guarantee almost guaranteeing cuts 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.640 to medicate across the board or main Care. 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:05.760 That's all I got to say about that. A little 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.639 bit of a rant, but hopefully it was clear. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.399 Well, Angela, can I just say real quick on the 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:14.480 main Care the main Care piece, because you've exhibited main 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.320 Care is just one example of how this program gets 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:21.679 rebranded once it's in the states these governors. Because medicaid 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.840 is a partnership between both the federal government and the 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:30.720 state government. Under Obamacare, it raised the federal government contribution 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:34.919 for Medicaid in these states to ninety percent the states 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:36.840 then had to kick in the other ten percent to 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.680 cover the cost. But the reason why the American people 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:44.440 may not be very clear about them being beneficiaries of 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:48.600 Medicaid dollars for healthcare is because the branding. And this 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.440 kind of gets set the question, which is, you know, 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:55.080 Republicans rebrand or they brand and they do it well, 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.280 but they lie on while they're doing it, and then 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.800 we don't rebrand, and we may be earnest at heart, 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:04.840 but in effectual in the outcome. And I think we 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:09.320 have been slow to lean into the credit that the 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.720 party deserves for what it does. I know, we hated 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:17.760 on Donald Trump for slowing down that first batch of checks, 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.840 stimulus checks that went out to the American people thanks 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.680 to the Democrats under the leadership of Nancy Pelosi and 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:28.720 the Democratic Caucus delivering that package under Trumps signature. But 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:30.479 he said, Noah, hold up, hold them, hold up. I'm 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.800 gonna put my name on every check. And yes, I 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:35.920 realize it's gonna cause delays, but I'm gonna put my 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.000 name there anyway. All that to say is I do 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.440 agree with the question of this question, which is or 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:42.960 the point made in the question, which is we're just 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.200 not that good at it. And I often ask myself 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:48.679 Angela and Tiffany, like, is it that the people who 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:50.800 we put in front of the cameras aren't savvy enough? 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:54.120 Are they not dropping the lines like we need them 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.760 to in order for them to land? Or is it 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:00.280 that the constituency that Democrats have to talk to is 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:04.080 so vast and different. It's easy to be on point 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:08.400 with your people when you're pretty much a monolith when 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:12.560 everybody pretty much is the same color, practically the same class, 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:16.040 and are at least united around the same ideals, which 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.920 is largely keep black and brown and women folks off 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:21.560 of whatever it is that we have. It's not that, 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.320 but I'm trying to simplify here, whereas for Democrats it's 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:28.359 more complicated. But are we given an excuse when I 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:30.359 say something like it's just more complicated because the people 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.600 are more complicated, tif Or is there a way to 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:37.360 say easy or simplify things to people and help them 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:40.200 understand and grasp what's that consequence even if they don't 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:42.720 understand the hook line and letter of the law. 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:48.000 I mean, I appreciate that perspective, Andrew, because honestly, I 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:51.720 think That's why so many people are kind of checked 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.920 out because so often it's a very inside the beltweigh 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:58.680 conversation where you don't understand what the shutdown means, you 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.160 don't know what a continuing result means, you don't understand 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:03.520 what role this senator has and what this means. So 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:06.560 I just want to take a click second and explain 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.680 what this all means, because people ask that all the time. 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:13.000 People DM me, even people who I'm like close with 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:15.679 who are like intelligent people. So it's nothing wrong if 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:17.440 you don't know it, but like we have to take 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.800 time to explain these things. Essentially, Congress is supposed to 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:24.680 fund four hundred and thirty eight government agencies, but that 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:26.800 it happens before October one. October first is when the 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:30.560 fiscal year begins for the federal government. At issue are 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:32.560 a lot of things that you can imagine given the 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.240 Trump administration. That goes to support Angelo's point that the 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:38.960 government has been shut down when Congress cannot because Congress 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:41.919 controls the budget. When Congress cannot agree on those things, 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.840 well that's when you have conflict. And so once the 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:50.120 government is shut down, people are essential employees will still 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:52.040