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Speaker 1: Hey guy, it's fun. It's normous, countrymen. We are back

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Speaker 2: Ham Carl Marcowitz. What a weekend, Mary Catherine.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on. We had stitches at our house,

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Speaker 1: stitches for the stitches for the youngest, the boy. This

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Speaker 1: is like what they do, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean we keep trying to buy like a twenty

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Speaker 2: Sell those, so.

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Speaker 1: I want my card punch. Yeah, we had. He had

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Speaker 1: a close encounter with the banister and it didn't It

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Speaker 1: didn't end well for him, but he's kids are magic.

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Speaker 1: He's like he was jumping out a trampoline two hours later.

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Speaker 2: So he'll get that banister next time.

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Speaker 1: Yes he will. And as as a mother with good judgment,

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Speaker 1: I of course have him immediately on a trampoline after

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Speaker 2: We are gonna get mail.

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Speaker 1: I got to get back on that horse. You really, yes,

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Speaker 3: So that was a Super Bowl? Has there ever been

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Speaker 3: that kind of lopsided result? I count on you for

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Speaker 1: I don't think I think that lead that the Eagles

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Speaker 1: Bowl history. That was a just a beating. I was

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Speaker 1: rooting for the Eagles, not because I'm an Eagles fan.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Lions fan. But the entire defense is Georgia Bulldogs.

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Speaker 1: So by the end of their four years, they've won

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Speaker 1: two National championships and a Super Bowl. So way to go, guys.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'll be happy for you, even though I

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Speaker 4: Like that's that was sort of the problem last night,

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Speaker 3: Despised the Eagles, but like, did I really care that

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Speaker 2: Not that much.

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Speaker 1: I like the idea, by the way that everybody's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is devastated. I'm neutral on Taylor Swift to positive.

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Speaker 1: I like her. I'm this isn't devastating. You went to

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Speaker 1: two Super Bowls two years in a row in first

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Speaker 1: outing as a Chiefs fan, Like you're good and you

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Speaker 1: won one of them, right, and like.

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Speaker 3: Your boyfriend's on the team, You're okay.

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Speaker 1: You're good.

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Speaker 2: You just had this Mego world tour.

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Speaker 3: You know, I didn't mind Taylor getting booed, because I

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Speaker 3: think that that's just a rite of passage for everyone.

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Speaker 3: We Trump got applauded, but he could have easily gotten

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't put me on that jumpatron, I'm good, Just

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I did think the super Bowl, which I love because

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Speaker 1: That was one of the sad things about the kneeling

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Speaker 1: And now it really does feel like people are kind

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Speaker 3: I thought a lot of that was Listen, I thought

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Speaker 1: Were like, no, we would like to watch, so yeah.

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Speaker 2: Please leave us alone, lady.

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Speaker 3: Look that this return to normalcy, this vibe shift, is

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Speaker 2: It was clear that.

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Speaker 3: And you know that the ads that were still a

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Speaker 2: Just all hate, all hate. Heyere, yeah, I hate the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I'm not against it.

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Speaker 3: But you know that that company, that group started as

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Speaker 1: I think my favorite ad was probably the Glenn Powell

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Speaker 1: Glenn Powell, to me is sort of emblematic of the

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Speaker 3: I can't say I'm a huge fan, but I knew

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Speaker 1: So man Drake thought he was just going to have

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Speaker 1: whole track of Drake. That line in particular is a

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Speaker 3: Yeah she did so other vibe shifty news over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: and this is you know, Donald.

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Speaker 2: Trump was at the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Apparently he was the first president ever at the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised.

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Speaker 3: You can hate the guy, but he's doing what he said.

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Speaker 1: So I think you see that reflected in this By

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Speaker 1: the way, did you see they played God Bless the

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Speaker 3: No, I was cooking a lot of it, all cooking, eating, cooking, eating.

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Speaker 3: God Bless America.

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Speaker 1: That's good to see.

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Speaker 1: They've played oh nice at the third quarter.

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Speaker 3: That is a vibe shift, the bud Light commercial with

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Speaker 1: I will say Shane Gillis's arc is indicative of amazing exactly.

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Speaker 2: This is the end of the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 3: And my friend Michael Malice had somebody to write that

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Speaker 3: The Democratic Party is the oldest political party on earth.

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Speaker 3: The idea that it's on the verge of destruction is

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Speaker 2: Let's keep the winning going.

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Speaker 3: And I love the vibe right now and it does

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Speaker 2: But let's not get ahead of ourselves. The deocrats are

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Speaker 1: You're right. You have to take your w's when you

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Speaker 3: I don't mean to pick on this guy, but Roy

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Speaker 3: Tik Sierra wrote a book called Why the White Working

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Speaker 3: Class Still Matters, and he published.

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Speaker 2: It right before George W.

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Speaker 3: Bush has win in two thousand and the case was

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Speaker 2: To vote Democrat forever and ever. And so this is

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Speaker 2: the end of the Republican Party. Can see where this went.

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Speaker 1: Well, you remember Obama's demographics is destiny, Like it was

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Speaker 1: it can feel jarring, but it's actually a sign of health.

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Speaker 3: us EID. I get it USAID, But I mean.

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Speaker 1: You know what, it's a new era, Carrol.

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Speaker 3: You say what you want to say, We'll say what

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Speaker 3: I want to say. So they're just they're they're really

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Speaker 3: not liking that this is happening to them, And how

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Speaker 3: dare we cut off their friends and funding to all

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Speaker 3: of their different ridiculous projects.

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Speaker 2: I want to play this video.

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Speaker 3: This is from twoenty twenty three, and it's John Stewart

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Speaker 3: interviewing the then US Department Secretary of Defense, Kathleen Hicks,

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Speaker 3: And we're going to play the whole three minute clip

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Speaker 3: because it's just that good.

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Speaker 1: She's the Deputy secretary, right, so she was under.

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Speaker 3: US Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there is a lot of waste fraud in it

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Speaker 5: abuse within.

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Speaker 6: Assistance audits, waste broaden abuse are not the same thing.

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Speaker 2: So let's decompose these.

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Speaker 1: Please educate me on on sure.

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Speaker 6: So an audit is exactly what you just described, which

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Speaker 6: is do I know what was delivered to which place?

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Speaker 6: The ability to pass an audit or in the fact

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Speaker 6: that the DD has not passed audit is not suggestive

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Speaker 6: of waste frauden abuse.

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Speaker 2: That is completely false right there.

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Speaker 6: So now is a question of it's suggestive that we

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Speaker 6: can't we don't have an accurate inventory that we can

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Speaker 6: pull up of what we have where that is not

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Speaker 6: the same as saying we can't do that because waste

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Speaker 6: frauden abuse has occurred.

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Speaker 5: So in my world, yeah, that's waste.

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Speaker 1: How is that waste?

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Speaker 5: If I give you a billion dollars and you can't

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Speaker 5: tell me what happened to it, that to me is wasteful.

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Speaker 5: That that means you are not necessary responsible. But if

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Speaker 5: you can't tell me where it went, then what am

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Speaker 5: I supposed to think? And when they're has been reporting

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is not Look I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 5: saying this is on you and that you cause this,

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Speaker 5: but I think it's it's a tough argument to make

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Speaker 5: that cause it an eight hundred and fifty billion dollar

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Speaker 5: budget to an organization that can't pass an audit and

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Speaker 5: tell you where that money went. Like, I think most

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Speaker 5: people would consider that somewhere in the realm of waste,

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Speaker 5: fraud or abuse because they would wonder why that money

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Speaker 5: isn't well accounted for, and especially when they see food

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Speaker 5: insecurity on military basis and they see we talk about.

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Speaker 6: That, because that's a good we should be talking. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I understand where you're trying to go. Other than the dollars, which.

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Speaker 5: Will bother you, I think it doesn't really bother me.

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Speaker 5: I think it's all connected.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 5: I think when I say that story, tell me how

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Speaker 5: you're When I see a state department get a certain

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Speaker 5: amount of money and a military budget be ten times that,

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Speaker 5: and I see a struggle within government to get people

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Speaker 5: like more basic services, and then that department that got that,

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Speaker 5: I mean, we got out of twenty years of war

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Speaker 5: and the Pentagon got a fifty billion dollar raise, Like

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Speaker 5: that's shocking to me. Now, I may not understand exactly

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Speaker 5: the ins and outs and the incredible magic of an audit,

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Speaker 5: but I'm a human being who lives on the earth

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Speaker 5: and can't figure out how eight hundred and fifty billion

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Speaker 5: dollars to a department means that the rank and file

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Speaker 5: still have to be on food stamps. Like, to me,

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Speaker 5: that's fucking corruption. I'm sorry. And if that blows your mind,

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Speaker 5: and if you think like that's like a crazy agenda

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Speaker 5: for me to have, I really think that that's institutional

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Speaker 5: thinking and that it's not looking at the day to

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Speaker 5: day reality of the people that you call the greatest

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Speaker 5: fighting force in the world. So I just again, I

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Speaker 5: get back to this idea of like, I'm not looking

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Speaker 5: to pick a fight with you, but I am surprised

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Speaker 5: at that the reaction to these questions are you don't

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Speaker 5: know what an audit is, bucko, Like, that's just weird

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Speaker 5: to me.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, anybody who's ever watched John Stewart,

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Speaker 3: that is him being as kind as he could possibly

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Speaker 3: be to her. If Bill is a Republican that he

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Speaker 3: was speaking to, he would rip their face off. He

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Speaker 3: would absolutely demolish them. That was him trying to be like,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of not funny that you lost all this money. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and Herbie like you focused on the dollar, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's focused on the dollar.

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Speaker 1: This crystallizes a difference between normal people and people who

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Speaker 1: work in government and have for a very long time,

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Speaker 1: and people who are steeped in that, which includes the

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Speaker 1: media and Washington. People think things about how things should

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Speaker 1: and do work that are just wild. When Stuart says,

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Speaker 1: I'm just a human being on the earth, that makes

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Speaker 1: you very different from the people who work inside the

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Speaker 1: federal government. That's why she's laughing. She doesn't understand because

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Speaker 1: she has not been held accountable. It is her position

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Speaker 1: that she needn't be held accountable that, in fact, losing

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty billion dollars or whatever the figure is,

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Speaker 1: is jump change. It's insulting to her that you would

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Speaker 1: ask about it. And that is how every agency feels

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Speaker 1: about itself. They do things in a way that, as

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Speaker 1: a normal person, you are absolutely not allowed to do.

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Speaker 1: And I don't just mean running a business. I mean

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Speaker 1: filing your personal taxes. When you do your little audit

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Speaker 1: report to the federal government, you're not allowed to say

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Speaker 1: I misplaced a couple bill.

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Speaker 2: Whoops, You're not.

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Speaker 1: Allowed to do that, but they are allowed to do it.

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Speaker 1: And I think Elon Musk tweeted out this weekend about

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Speaker 1: a couple things that I think show again, the more

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Speaker 1: people learn about how the federal government does business with

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Speaker 1: this megaphone from Elon Musk, the less popular it's going

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Speaker 1: to be. So he's putting in a couple rules at

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Speaker 1: Treasury if the courts don't stop him. Require that all

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Speaker 1: outgoing government payments have a payment categorization code, which is

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Speaker 1: necessary in order to pass financial audits. This is frequently

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Speaker 1: left blank, making audits almost impossible. Number two, all payments

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Speaker 1: must also include a rationale for the payment in the

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Speaker 1: comment field, which is currently left blank. Importantly, we are

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Speaker 1: not yet applying any judgment to this rationale, but simply

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Speaker 1: requiring that some attempt be made to explain the payment

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Speaker 1: more than nothing. And number three, there's a do not

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Speaker 1: pay list of entities for are known to be fraudulent

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Speaker 1: or non existent. They just keep paying.

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Speaker 2: Them anyway, insanity, they just.

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Speaker 1: Keep paying them. So these are the requests. And I

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Speaker 1: think normal people look at that list of requests and

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Speaker 1: they say y'all haven't been doing right right. Well.

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Speaker 3: It's also funny because the left is pushing back on this,

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Speaker 3: being like, well, this has been going on forever.

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Speaker 2: Why do you care about it now? Like, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know this was going on forever. I'm glad

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Speaker 3: to hear about this, and I'm glad that Elon is

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Speaker 3: on it.

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Speaker 5: He is.

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Speaker 3: I just this is probably my favorite thing about the

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Speaker 3: administration so far. Doge is exposing so much crazy stuff

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Speaker 3: in our government that just I love everything about it.

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Speaker 1: Well, and as Bascent notes when he was asked by

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg about it, it's not just these guys who have

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Speaker 1: been brought in by Elon as the Executive Order and

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Speaker 1: as USDs. Again, an Obama era entity is designed. People

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Speaker 1: go to each agency, but they are accompanied by career folks.

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Speaker 1: They are accompanied by the Senate appointed person, They're accompanied

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Speaker 1: by a lawyer. That's the requirement for each team at

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Speaker 1: each agency, and they're doing work finding out things we

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Speaker 1: need to know, such as for instance, at FEMA discovered

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Speaker 1: that FEMA spent fifty nine million dollars last week on

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Speaker 1: hotels in New York City to house illegal migrants. They

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Speaker 1: say that this violates an executive order. But regardless, fifty

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Speaker 1: nine million is going last week to illegal migrants in

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Speaker 1: New York to house them. But people are being kicked

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Speaker 1: out of hotels in North Carolina who are.

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Speaker 3: Citizens right and living intents in cold weather and.

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Speaker 1: All of that. It's feel free to explain that to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: guys right.

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Speaker 3: And you know, if had we challenged this something like

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Speaker 3: this like two years ago, people who just called us

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Speaker 3: racist and in the end of the conversation. And that

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Speaker 3: is why the vibe shift to tie this all together

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Speaker 3: is so important. Because the work is really important, but

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Speaker 3: the conversation around the work has changed so much that

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Speaker 3: that is what's allowing the work to get done.

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Speaker 1: It would you say that we are doing the work.

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Speaker 2: We are doing the work.

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Speaker 3: We're doing, we're reading the book, We're we're sitting down

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Speaker 3: and listening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, leading space for people like Elon to talk to

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Speaker 1: us about what's happening in the federal government.

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Speaker 2: We are, we are. And let's end here.

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Speaker 3: Let's we have a Trump clip about what Elon is

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Speaker 3: going to do next.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it's kickbacks or what's going on,

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Speaker 7: but the people, look, I ran on this and the

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Speaker 7: people want me to find it. And I've had a

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Speaker 7: great help with Elon Musk, who's been terrific.

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Speaker 1: Talm On, you say you trust him.

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Speaker 7: Trust Elon. Oh, he's not gaining anything. In fact, I

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Speaker 7: wonder how he can devote the time to it. He's

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Speaker 7: so into it. But I told him do that. Then

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Speaker 7: I'm going to tell him very soon, like maybe in

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Speaker 7: twenty four hours, to go check the Department of Education.

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Speaker 7: He's going to find the same thing. Then I'm going

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Speaker 7: to go to the military. Let's check the military. We're

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Speaker 7: going to find billions, hundreds of billions of dollars of

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Speaker 7: fraud and abuse. And you know, the people elected me

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Speaker 7: on that.

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Speaker 3: I love that Trump is saying he's giving Elon the

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Speaker 3: power to go do this, and Elon is going to

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Speaker 3: make it his mission to help all these different agencies

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Speaker 3: wasting our money.

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Speaker 2: How can anyone be against this?

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Speaker 1: I'm mad at it at all.

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Speaker 3: I wish them well, yes, and I wish that they

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Speaker 3: continue to succeed and do it as fast as possible,

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Speaker 3: because Americans deserve not to have their money misspent.

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Speaker 1: You are entering your explain yourself era.

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