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Speaker 1: The White paper Revolution is underway in China. People across

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Speaker 1: have been reports of dogs being murdered. People have lost

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Speaker 1: all in the name of zero COVID policy, which is unattainable.

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Speaker 1: Three years into this thing, we know that a zero

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Speaker 1: especially people like the Great Barrington Signers, the people who

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Speaker 1: what they've been warning about is all that those policies do,

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Speaker 1: all these quarantining, the government camps, the welding people in

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Speaker 1: can't escape a virus like COVID, you have to build

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Speaker 1: It all started after a building set on fire. Attend

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Speaker 1: people were killed. Accusations that they were unable to leave

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Speaker 1: And there are these protests precedented? How are these different

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Speaker 1: than protests of the past. America came close to this.

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Speaker 1: A lot of her leaders had previously praised what China

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Speaker 1: We could have been China. You see how China's use

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Speaker 1: things like vaccine passports with either green, yellow, or red

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Speaker 1: signifying if you can live your life, if you can

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Speaker 1: a weapon of control. Nearly half of Democrats during COVID,

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Speaker 1: Democrats also supported fighting or imprisoning people for simply questioning

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Speaker 1: the efficacy of vaccines. And sadly, we've seen American companies

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Speaker 1: We turned to Shiva and Fleet, who escaped communist China

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Speaker 1: at just twenty six years old. She's been warning about

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Speaker 1: the parallels between China and the United States, with communism

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Speaker 1: race theory. This is her mission. So we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk to someone who knows what it's like to live

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Speaker 1: trying to fight to keep America free. This interview is important.

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Speaker 1: I really hope that you continue to listen to she

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Speaker 1: event Fleet Lee. I'm so glad to have you on

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Speaker 1: this show because you have experienced authoritarianism in China. You've escaped,

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Speaker 1: you know what it's like. You know what these these

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Speaker 1: people are suffering through. China has had this zero COVID policy,

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Speaker 1: And the first of all, I want to audience to know,

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Speaker 1: And we heard this words just often. No, we don't

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Speaker 1: China's got this COVID tracking system. It's a social credit

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Speaker 1: definitely different. China has CCP has so many, so many movement,

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Speaker 1: I just listened to UH. A young woman actually is

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Speaker 1: And that is the tragedy all for the protest today

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