Speaker 1: Welcome to Reasonably Shady, a production of the Black Effect
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Speaker 1: we realized it now as opposed to forty five minutes
Speaker 1: from now. So we're gonna give you. Let's let's just
Speaker 1: get let's get it on. All right, Welcome to Reasonably Shaky.
Speaker 1: It's your girl, Jazelle Bryant's here. What's up? What's up?
Speaker 1: And I'm Robin Dixon. Thank you for joining us. Guys,
Speaker 1: this is our second episode. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming back because hopefully you listen to the first one
Speaker 1: and now you are back listening to us again. I
Speaker 1: just want you to know that we are two girlfriends
Speaker 1: who love each other, and so this podcast is all
Speaker 1: about you hearing what girlfriends talk about. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about everything from you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: up and down and through. We're gonna talk about everything
Speaker 1: and We're also going to allow at some point for
Speaker 1: our listeners to ask us questions. We'll be able to
Speaker 1: give advice. So today is gonna be a good day
Speaker 1: because we're talking about relationships. We love talking about relationships,
Speaker 1: Yes we do, Yes we do. But we always want
Speaker 1: to start our reasonably Shady podcast off with a little icebreaker.
Speaker 1: So it's a reasonably shady moment of the week. Robin.
Speaker 1: You want to go first, yes, So my reasonably shady
Speaker 1: moment of the week goes to myself. It's nothing major, Um,
Speaker 1: but I just I came back from a trip a
Speaker 1: number of days ago, and um, I still have not
Speaker 1: unpacked my suitcases suitcases, and so now I'm just pulling
Speaker 1: stuff out of my suitcases to get dressed. And I
Speaker 1: just feel like that. And I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 1: I had time to unpack my stuff, but I'm I'm
Speaker 1: making life more difficult for myself right now. So you
Speaker 1: do realize this podcast is called reasonably shady and not procrastination.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I look at it like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: reasonable because a lot of people do this. A lot
Speaker 1: of people go on trips, trip them back and they
Speaker 1: let their suitcases sit and I'm shady because it's just, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not productive. Okay, So I'm I'm going to just
Speaker 1: say that you this was a three day trip. I
Speaker 1: saw your luggage. You had two big old bags a luggage,
Speaker 1: and so that was actually reasonable because you had to
Speaker 1: put everything in right, shady because I'm shading you because
Speaker 1: we were only going for three days. Yes, we're going
Speaker 1: for three days. So now I have like half of
Speaker 1: my wardrobe in my luggage. All right. So I was
Speaker 1: actually on this trip and my reasonably shady moment of
Speaker 1: the week is, you know, I have some friends, and
Speaker 1: I decided to check in on one of my girlfriends
Speaker 1: because she's, you know, kind of been going through a lot.
Speaker 1: And I realized that checking in on her and being
Speaker 1: a good friend to her in a very reasonable way,
Speaker 1: because guys understand just that is typically not reasonable. She's
Speaker 1: typically always shady. So I checked in on her. But
Speaker 1: she decided that me checking in on her was just
Speaker 1: shady and it wasn't. Okay, I understand where you're coming from,
Speaker 1: but I can understand as well, um a person's perspective.
Speaker 1: When they hear something negative, they just hold onto the
Speaker 1: negative part and they don't hear anything else that was
Speaker 1: being said, and so all they heard was negative, negative, negative,
Speaker 1: not hearing I care about you, I'm checking in on you,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Right, well, I just want to stay
Speaker 1: moving forward. In a relationship with girl friends. You should
Speaker 1: be going to talk about the good, the bad, and
Speaker 1: z ugly, Okay, And it's not necessarily always be thrown
Speaker 1: under the caveat of Gills being shady. Okay, I will
Speaker 1: let you know what I'm being shady. I was not
Speaker 1: being shady in this particular case. So, Robin, I'm so
Speaker 1: excited because you know, I love talking about relationships. It's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things. And this is called breakup
Speaker 1: or makeup? Okay, Yes, I know a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: You do you do? And can you start first? I can, yes. So,
Speaker 1: I mean we're definitely going to go down the list
Speaker 1: of just in general, you know, statistics, talking about what
Speaker 1: presented to menchi. We're going to get into finances or
Speaker 1: deal breakers. But I think it's good for us to
Speaker 1: start with our personal stories experiences. I agree. So, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: if we were just gonna talk about my relationship, I
Speaker 1: could be here this this this is like probably two
Speaker 1: podcast episodes. You need to talk about my relationship. And
Speaker 1: I say that because it started so okay, and that
Speaker 1: one you were and this is two thousand twenty one.
Speaker 1: I don't can't count, but let's just say that's a
Speaker 1: long day. Time to two oh six to sixteen years,
Speaker 1: twenty five years with one dude, one person. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: o Saga and a prominent man at that, Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: So my boyfriend, fiance, husband, ex husband, fiance. You know
Speaker 1: he's been all those titles. Um, he was an athlete.
Speaker 1: We met in high school. He was an athlete. He
Speaker 1: ended up playing college basketball, so he was a college athlete,
Speaker 1: and you know, his life it was already you know,
Speaker 1: soon when when you were an athlete, the lights are bright,
Speaker 1: who attention is on you, and you have all the
Speaker 1: attention in the world. And I was there with him
Speaker 1: because he had big dreams to make it to the NBA.
Speaker 1: So in high school and in college, I was in
Speaker 1: the gym with him. You know how they say you
Speaker 1: weren't there shooting in the gym. Yeah, I was in
Speaker 1: there shooting in the gym. Rob And why were you
Speaker 1: in there? Were you just making sure he was in
Speaker 1: the gym? No? No, I was helping him. I was
Speaker 1: rebounding defense. He said, I want to get shots up.
Speaker 1: I need somebody to rebound. Robert put on her tennis shoes. People,
Speaker 1: she was in the gym with him. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so so I was in the gym shooting with one
Speaker 1: while he was trying to achieve his dreams to make
Speaker 1: it to the NBA. Okay. So, once he made it
Speaker 1: to the NBA, here comes the thoughts, Here come the hose,
Speaker 1: Here comes the strumpets, Here comes this scali wags, Here
Speaker 1: comes to gold. I'm I'm done, I'm done. I'm finished. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So once he made it to the n B A
Speaker 1: you know, okay, So that's so. Okay. If if if
Speaker 1: at any point y'all hear noise, it's my construction. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of construction going on at my house.
Speaker 1: Let's continue one, okay. I mean there's all types of
Speaker 1: noises construction in power washing, you know. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's a lot going on to hear. Yes, that's good,
Speaker 1: it's life. Um okay, So NBA, he made it in
Speaker 1: the media. We were, like I said, we were together
Speaker 1: since high school. And I was in the gym shooting
Speaker 1: with him, and I helped him with his school work,
Speaker 1: and I helped him, you know, achieve his dreams. And
Speaker 1: I was there to see him make it to the NBA.
Speaker 1: And then he got to the n b A and
Speaker 1: all hell broke loose, um and dum dum, dumb. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean this is like, I mean, don't you know
Speaker 1: where this story is going? Right? Yes? I think everybody's
Speaker 1: very clear. Don't we know where the story is going? So,
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was for me because I
Speaker 1: was young and I was dumb, and I felt like
Speaker 1: I had some sort of you know, I helped I
Speaker 1: was I helped him get to where he was. I
Speaker 1: almost didn't want to accept any type of you know, cheating, um,
Speaker 1: suspicions or accusations. And so for me it was like, um,
Speaker 1: I'm not walking away from this. In learning, some as
Speaker 1: Giselle calls them, scally wag, come and take my place?
Speaker 1: Who didn't put the work in? So you turned a
Speaker 1: blind eye, I would say, I turned. I would say,
Speaker 1: I do not seek. I didn't look for like, I
Speaker 1: didn't look at the signs. You know, I didn't harp
Speaker 1: on him. I wasn't like, you know, digging for information.
Speaker 1: I guess let's turn a blind eye. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: and and that's actually new. I've known you for a
Speaker 1: long time. That's like new information that I'm finding out
Speaker 1: about you. So it's like, so, yes, we got a
Speaker 1: divorce and it was because of you know, just because
Speaker 1: of infidelity. But it wasn't like one instance that just
Speaker 1: like set it off and I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm leaving because I found out you cheated with Mary. Like, No,
Speaker 1: it was it was like, okay, just I'm done with this,
Speaker 1: this is enough. Um. And that happened, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, for me, we we started dating when we
Speaker 1: were very young. Um, so that that mentality was just
Speaker 1: I chalked that up to being young and dumb and
Speaker 1: like I said, attracted to you know, being as an
Speaker 1: NBA player that I helped in my opinion, in my mind,
Speaker 1: I was there. I helped him achieve his dreams because
Speaker 1: no one believed in them. Um. So I have a question, So,
Speaker 1: did you at that point you got you know, you're
Speaker 1: an NBA wife, did you fall in love with being
Speaker 1: an NBA wife? It became part of I would say,
Speaker 1: it became a part of my identity because when you
Speaker 1: are an NBA wife, you don't really have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to you know, to have your own job because we
Speaker 1: travel so much, you know, because we moved from city
Speaker 1: to city. Um, so it would be hard to like
Speaker 1: have a career or a job. So our lives revolved
Speaker 1: around being you know, following our husband from city to city.
Speaker 1: So we would you know, live in a certain city
Speaker 1: for you know, during the season, and then we moved
Speaker 1: back to our hometown and then you're moving again. So
Speaker 1: our since our lives involved around and you're going to
Speaker 1: the games and you're watching the games. Since our lives
Speaker 1: revolve around that, um, it becomes your identity. So would
Speaker 1: you connect that to self? Your self value and worth
Speaker 1: at the time was connected to who you were married to,
Speaker 1: the status that gave you, um, the access that gave you.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, okay. And not that I needed it
Speaker 1: because I was always you know, I come from good stock,
Speaker 1: so I didn't need any you know, an NBA player
Speaker 1: to make me feel worthy. But it's it's a different
Speaker 1: life that you live and you kind of enjoy it,
Speaker 1: you know, like like, you know, I know the life
Speaker 1: and my friends are living, and I know the life
Speaker 1: that I was living. Your friends was broken, broken, broke, broke, broke.
Speaker 1: But but you know what's interesting is my friends they
Speaker 1: were spending time grinding, you know, going to school, going
Speaker 1: to medical school or law school or business school. And
Speaker 1: now you know, it got to a point where when
Speaker 1: my marriage ended, or when one's career was over, we're
Speaker 1: back to square one. We're starting at zero, and my
Speaker 1: friends are established, you know, they're they're well into their
Speaker 1: career there, you know, buying their big houses and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's like, it's just like
Speaker 1: what do you want? Do you want it that instant gratification,
Speaker 1: which is what you know we had UM and that lifestyle,
Speaker 1: or do you want to like grind and work for it?
Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, look, there's there's a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of topics we can explore here. But my experience
Speaker 1: is a little different than most people's experience because we
Speaker 1: were married. You know, we started dating when we were
Speaker 1: in high school, we got married, we got divorced, and
Speaker 1: then um, after the divorce, while I came back home
Speaker 1: and was and came back home, moved back in we
Speaker 1: were kind of like at a rock bottom place. UM
Speaker 1: professionally financially, and we decided to like pull our resources
Speaker 1: together and just help each other get to a better
Speaker 1: place for the sake of ourselves and our kids. And
Speaker 1: at some point we rekindled our relationships. They rekindled the flame. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but going through that experience and I can't say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I had some tough moments where you know,
Speaker 1: you cry yourself to sleep and you're you know, just
Speaker 1: just oh my god, what I do next? You know,
Speaker 1: earlier on the relationship, at some point I said to myself,
Speaker 1: I am never and I don't you know I say this,
Speaker 1: I'm never letting a man make me cry again, Robin.
Speaker 1: That's not realistic. Why not because you might cry because
Speaker 1: you look at him and you realize how much you
Speaker 1: love him. No, no no, no, no, no, I mean cry
Speaker 1: in a way of like I hurt you exactly. I'm
Speaker 1: not letting a man make me cry because of a
Speaker 1: breakup or because of infantel whatever it is. So it's like,
Speaker 1: if you if you want to break up, if you
Speaker 1: want you to me, okay, bye, I'm done. I'm done. Okay, alright,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get back to that. We're gona put
Speaker 1: a pin in that and I so I can give
Speaker 1: you a little bit of my backstory, um, which if
Speaker 1: you've ever googled me, you've already read. But in the way, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of similar. You know. I met
Speaker 1: them all when when he was starting his career, which
Speaker 1: was him being a pastor of make a Church, I
Speaker 1: should say, so I was. I was that girl kind
Speaker 1: of like you, Robin. I was there, um making sure
Speaker 1: or that I was handing out flyers in the streets
Speaker 1: of Baltimore so that at night at clubs when people
Speaker 1: were coming out, so that you know, people would know
Speaker 1: that he was about to launch or not launch a church,
Speaker 1: but like open a church. Um. You know, I was
Speaker 1: the girl at the meetings in the beginning. It was
Speaker 1: like him and like twenty of us. Um, I was
Speaker 1: the one in the beginning when he didn't have a
Speaker 1: church and I would go with him to go preach
Speaker 1: at another church. I would see that there'd be about
Speaker 1: thirty people that would follow him around to any church
Speaker 1: between DC, Maryland and Virginia because they just love to
Speaker 1: hear him preach. And then when we would go out
Speaker 1: of town, I would be like, wow, like you really
Speaker 1: just have a following, And he didn't want to start
Speaker 1: his own church. He was like I, he was kind
Speaker 1: of scared of failure. He was kind of feeling like, um,
Speaker 1: if he does open up a church, are people gonna come?
Speaker 1: Are they gonna come consistently? I mean it's really a
Speaker 1: leap of faith. So you know, I was that girl
Speaker 1: for day one. He was broke, and I believed in
Speaker 1: his vision and I believed in his dream. And um,
Speaker 1: my mother always says because I always say, you know,
Speaker 1: I believed in Jamal's vision, and she's like, well, you
Speaker 1: must have had magnifying glasses because um, when I met him,
Speaker 1: I did not think that that was going to happen. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: So long story short. You know, there was clearly infidelity.
Speaker 1: We got a divorce. And my feeling about marriage and
Speaker 1: relationships has always been, um, a relationship does not define me.
Speaker 1: A relationship is not attached to my self worth, my
Speaker 1: self value. Um, who and what I am? I am
Speaker 1: not less than who I am if I'm not in
Speaker 1: a relationship. And I think that sometimes, especially when you
Speaker 1: are younger, um girls, teenagers, young ladies, as they're trying
Speaker 1: to find themselves, they get caught up in um be
Speaker 1: having to be attached to a man like right. And
Speaker 1: and don't get me wrong, I was the first lady
Speaker 1: of a mega church and that that there comes with
Speaker 1: a lot of perse that comes with you know, private planes,
Speaker 1: that comes with shopping sprees, it comes with um. I
Speaker 1: had a title, you know, I was no longer Giselle.
Speaker 1: I had a title. I was the first lady. So
Speaker 1: you know, that was all nice, But that was never
Speaker 1: anything that I was seeking to get off of a relationship.
Speaker 1: And I mean it just it just happened. It happened, yes,
Speaker 1: and you grew into it and I grew into it.
Speaker 1: And you know, when we were getting divorced, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest, just like you, Robin, I thought about, Okay,
Speaker 1: if I divorce him, all of that other stuff goes away,
Speaker 1: and I am I okay with it, And yeah, I
Speaker 1: was okay with it, of course. But I decided, as
Speaker 1: far as infidelity is concerned, that if it's a one
Speaker 1: night thing, meaning you went to Vegas and you lost
Speaker 1: your mind and you slept slept with Mary, or you
Speaker 1: went to a bachelor party and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: strippers came in and you lost your mind, Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: we can get through that can do through that. But
Speaker 1: if this is a lifestyle, this is how you want
Speaker 1: to live your life as a married man, I'm just
Speaker 1: not signing up for it because I feel like and
Speaker 1: you can call it selfish if you want. How I
Speaker 1: feel about me, my values, what I want from my
Speaker 1: life is will always be more important than how I
Speaker 1: feel about a relationship. That makes sense for sure, And
Speaker 1: a lot of people feel like that selfish. No, now,
Speaker 1: I think, and I think that comes with age. I
Speaker 1: think it comes with wisdom. I think it's like you
Speaker 1: figure out because the man is doing what he wants
Speaker 1: for himself, Yes, so why not you do what you
Speaker 1: want for yourself? Right? True? True? So to to be
Speaker 1: totally transparent for everybody. We then got back together twelve
Speaker 1: years after I got are and you know what, we
Speaker 1: have three kids. He is he's been in my life,
Speaker 1: um for twenty some years. We're the best of friends.
Speaker 1: We do love each other obviously, and you know, we
Speaker 1: got back to other. We we we got back together
Speaker 1: with the intention of bringing our family back together and
Speaker 1: making it work because we do love each other. However,
Speaker 1: he lives in freaking uh Atlanta, y'all, and I live
Speaker 1: in Maryland. And a long distance relationship in the pandemic
Speaker 1: ain't gonna work. And when we couldn't see each other,
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I was kind of happy being free. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was kind of have to like cook toast
Speaker 1: for people. No, I didn't have to make peanut butter
Speaker 1: and jelly sandwiches because that's what he likes. I didn't
Speaker 1: have to, um talk about what we're gonna watch on
Speaker 1: TV because I was just gonna watch what I wanted
Speaker 1: to watch. Um. And it's kind of like, I have
Speaker 1: to know who I am, and Gizelle enjoys being just
Speaker 1: Giselle and being free and being and not answering to anyone. Yes,
Speaker 1: I do. UM. So one day, you know, we I
Speaker 1: might be in another relationship, but as for right now,
Speaker 1: what's working for me is not being in one. Now.
Speaker 1: Robin and I did look up some statistics as it
Speaker 1: relates to relationships, because it's very important that people start
Speaker 1: getting into relationships with their eyes wide open, right, So
Speaker 1: we looked up what do we look up? Robin, I'm
Speaker 1: pulling it on statistics. I do want to say, I
Speaker 1: think when you are in a relationship and you really
Speaker 1: want to make it work, and you do come into
Speaker 1: a situation where there is infidelity. UM. For me, sometimes
Speaker 1: you do have to break up for things to change,
Speaker 1: like as an as an eye opener for the partner
Speaker 1: so that they can't say if you don't break up
Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, well I got away with it,
Speaker 1: way with it again. I think the breakup helps to
Speaker 1: make sure that that behavior does not happen again. Yes,
Speaker 1: And you know, in both of our situations, we met
Speaker 1: these guys when they were young and we were young, right,
Speaker 1: And and you know, everybody needs everybody's human everybody needs
Speaker 1: the ability to grow up and to really figure out
Speaker 1: what's best for them and there what's best for their lives. Right.
Speaker 1: So I think that you know, sometimes you have to
Speaker 1: allow space for a man to get there, right, because
Speaker 1: I can say want the change that needed to happen,
Speaker 1: and one did not happen until I divorced him, you know.
Speaker 1: So if we had remained married, if we had not
Speaker 1: gotten divorced, um, I'd probably be miserable right now, right.
Speaker 1: And I do also want to say that women need
Speaker 1: to understand that UM, a lot of a man's behavior
Speaker 1: it's based off of how he is, how his profession
Speaker 1: is going. Meaning, um, if he's he's he's always going
Speaker 1: to be striving to get that right, because that's just
Speaker 1: the nature of a man. Typically they are built to
Speaker 1: be providers. Um, I can say speak for experience. I
Speaker 1: know when I was married for Jamal, his main focus,
Speaker 1: his like nine focus was his job was his church
Speaker 1: was growing and building it. And you know, to be
Speaker 1: quite honest, I wasn't a focus. I wasn't what was
Speaker 1: on the forefront of his mind. Now when we were married,
Speaker 1: it was great until it wasn't. But um, just like
Speaker 1: men are getting their hustle on, women need to get
Speaker 1: their hustle on too. And I'm gonna tell you, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna bring up candy Burrs because I will never forget this. Um.
Speaker 1: When I met her, we did some sort of um
Speaker 1: stop something together for Bravo, and and I was starting
Speaker 1: every hu and then I started dating Sherman and she
Speaker 1: was like, Geselle, let me tell you something. It was
Speaker 1: kind of like off the cuff. She was like, don't
Speaker 1: let your relationship ever stop your hustle because a lot
Speaker 1: of times women get into relationships with men and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they get comfortable and they're like
Speaker 1: and they you know, they're in that love mode. They
Speaker 1: want to stay because you're so busy, right, They want
Speaker 1: to stay in the bed and cuddle. But the man
Speaker 1: gets up, put his pants on and goes to work.
Speaker 1: And we still like, oh, but I love you and
Speaker 1: I want to cuddle. No bitch, no bitch, get your
Speaker 1: hustle on. But I digress. Okay, we want to give
Speaker 1: you all statistics. Okay, So Robin and I looked up
Speaker 1: how many people are cheating in relationships and what we
Speaker 1: came up with. And I don't know where the hell
Speaker 1: these surveys came from. This, okay, So it said that
Speaker 1: of men of men cheat. Now I did a mental
Speaker 1: survey in my mind of my girlfriends and that number
Speaker 1: is okay. I'm just saying. I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, Patty Patty or negative Nancy.
Speaker 1: But this is not right. I wonder who did they
Speaker 1: interview for this. I don't know who they asked, but
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. They asked the wrong people.
Speaker 1: Now that's number one. Number two is of these said
Speaker 1: cheating infidelities start online. So, ladies, if your man is
Speaker 1: on his phone and he's on the Twitter, and he's
Speaker 1: on all the social media and if he's online, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Oh if he's on the Instagram, uh check
Speaker 1: his d M s because he hitting somebody else. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to tell you now, that's that, now, Robin.
Speaker 1: This is what struck me, and this is for me
Speaker 1: and you because us. What I really wanted to know
Speaker 1: was when men cheat? Do they cheat again? Right? And
Speaker 1: it said three hundred of men that cheat? What cheat again?
Speaker 1: Three of men that cheatat again? I don't if I
Speaker 1: might be making that up, you are, how can of
Speaker 1: a group of people let me that's like that one
Speaker 1: per So what they're saying is, okay, maybe it's these
Speaker 1: people cheat three point five more times. And I'm saying
Speaker 1: I didn't get involved in that. But I just started
Speaker 1: thinking about my life and I said, what goddamn, somebody
Speaker 1: should tell me that about two years ago, just saying
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it would have saved you some time
Speaker 1: and some hard It have saved me some time and
Speaker 1: energy and money now. But but but that's real, though,
Speaker 1: and that's real for you as well, right, And I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, who knows why men eat or
Speaker 1: what makes them stop cheating or what makes them change
Speaker 1: from a cheater to a non cheater. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of it it's just growth. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of it is, you know, going through experiences where maybe
Speaker 1: they they're you know, hindsight, they look back they lost
Speaker 1: someone because they cheated on them, and they're like, man,
Speaker 1: I messed that up. That was like my wife, that
Speaker 1: was gonna be mine forever and I lost her. So
Speaker 1: then when they get in their next relationship, they don't
Speaker 1: want to and they have a good woman that they
Speaker 1: really love and appreciate, they don't want to lose her.
Speaker 1: So it's like sometimes, yeah, when you're leaving that man
Speaker 1: because he cheated, you're actually setting up the next woman
Speaker 1: for a better man. Okay. So I just want you
Speaker 1: all to know something because I don't think i've ever
Speaker 1: shared this. Every dude that I've ever broken up with
Speaker 1: and I've broken up with a line, Oh god, did
Speaker 1: they get married their next girlfriend? They're married. They're very
Speaker 1: next girlfriend. They married them. Okay, And I kind of
Speaker 1: at first I was like, well, damn, this is weird.
Speaker 1: But actually I take that as like, um, a badge
Speaker 1: of but not like you to get there. Yes, you
Speaker 1: helped him get to the help point where he's ready
Speaker 1: to be married. Yes, I whipped that dude into shape
Speaker 1: for the next woman. So so ladies, y'all send me
Speaker 1: some gifts, okay, because I didn't hook a whole lot
Speaker 1: of y'all up. Okay, Now they don't even know Okay, no,
Speaker 1: they know. They know that the last girlfriend was. They're
Speaker 1: clear on that. I get daggers and stairs all over
Speaker 1: the place when I walked down the streets. Now anyway, listen,
Speaker 1: I think the statistic is interesting. Um it says thirty
Speaker 1: six percent of cheaters have affairs with their coworkers. And
Speaker 1: I believe that. I believe that. I mean, because you're
Speaker 1: spending so much time with each other thre you're spending
Speaker 1: more time at work and more you know, you know,
Speaker 1: just you're going through work issues and you have a commonality,
Speaker 1: which is the job. Yes, and and I believe that.
Speaker 1: So I remember when I used to work, I you know,
Speaker 1: even though WMA was in the NBA, like, I still would,
Speaker 1: you know, try to find jobs when I could or whatever. Um.
Speaker 1: So I worked an office job and I would go
Speaker 1: to lunch every day with the same group of guys.
Speaker 1: Are you hearing this? Oh he knew because he would
Speaker 1: be like, you a lunch again, like you know who
Speaker 1: you at? Like he did not like that at all. Right,
Speaker 1: it would drive him bonkers that I would go to
Speaker 1: lunch with the same group of guys and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: chill out. But I get it because I think in
Speaker 1: his his mind's going crazy, like God, you're at work,
Speaker 1: you're hanging out, You're you're spending all this quality time
Speaker 1: with these people. Um. But he used to drive me
Speaker 1: crazy and I'm like, okay, but wait, did any of
Speaker 1: the guys try to hit on you? No, but they would,
Speaker 1: you know, say nice. They was flirty, flirty. Okay. So
Speaker 1: another statistic is thirty I'm sorry thirteen. So we already
Speaker 1: established it said that of men cheat. We think that's
Speaker 1: a lie. We think it's but percent of women cheat. Now,
Speaker 1: if of men are cheating, they're cheating with women, right,
Speaker 1: So there this is I don't understand they statistics, but
Speaker 1: I get it like women, like I believe the women.
Speaker 1: It might I feel like it might be a little
Speaker 1: bit low, but I feel like maybe women No, I
Speaker 1: think women is forty and I would tell you why
Speaker 1: whatever the men? Whatever, the statistic is from men. Women
Speaker 1: is double. Women know how to cover their tracks better
Speaker 1: than men. Okay, So I feel like women do stuff
Speaker 1: and they take it to the grave. Women know how
Speaker 1: to cover their tracks. Anything about that. Women know how
Speaker 1: to um. Make sure that they cleared the history on
Speaker 1: their phone. They cleared the history on their navigation in
Speaker 1: their car. Um And I am I telling them you are?
Speaker 1: I will say I did, I did get caught. You
Speaker 1: know what I did about to give you a tip.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll probably already know this tip. So I
Speaker 1: had a person I was talking to. This is during
Speaker 1: a rocky moment. Were you with one or not? We
Speaker 1: were together? They were together? But said me, but I
Speaker 1: had enough, Okay, she said, I gotta I gotta do me. Okay,
Speaker 1: I had enough. So I had a person I was
Speaker 1: talking to and I changed his name to a female's
Speaker 1: name in your phone in my phone. Yeah, Robin, that's
Speaker 1: the old news. Whatever knew? Yes, I mean, you know
Speaker 1: how many people in the film as Sally and Jim
Speaker 1: and Larry and Teresa. Somebody just learned something. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So wait a minute, So wait a minute, So did
Speaker 1: you when you said you you jumped out there Were
Speaker 1: you cheating on wine? Were you having sex with this man? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: we were We probably would have gotten there, but we
Speaker 1: were just communicating. And he found out and found out
Speaker 1: Wine found out, and he didn't want to like break
Speaker 1: up or anything. But it was an eye opener for him,
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, at that point, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're not giving me the attention that I need or
Speaker 1: that I want. So um, So that was an eye
Speaker 1: opener for him. But this was like years and years
Speaker 1: and years ago, and he like still will never forget that.
Speaker 1: That So notice not too ladies. Man want to do
Speaker 1: what they want to do, but they I'm sure I
Speaker 1: don't want you doing what you want and if and
Speaker 1: and the quickest way to get a man to get
Speaker 1: himself together is for him to think you doing something
Speaker 1: else exactly exactly. And I feel like, um, actually, when
Speaker 1: when Jamal and I broke up, that that that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Like he would he'd be outside, like waiting for me
Speaker 1: to drive off. I lived in this apartment and it
Speaker 1: had a garage. He'd be waiting outside the garage like
Speaker 1: where's she going? Right's she going to see? What's she
Speaker 1: gonna do? They cannot handle it. They can't. And it's
Speaker 1: such a double standard. It's so crazy. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: y'all can do what you want. You can run around.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you know, especially if you have kids,
Speaker 1: if we have kids, Okay, I gotta come home. I
Speaker 1: gotta be with my kids. But the man, he can
Speaker 1: just be like, all right, well i'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play the video game. I'm going too, you know, play basketball.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. What what? Why is that? Why
Speaker 1: can you just come and go as you please? And
Speaker 1: I can't. So I'm like, oh, how would you like
Speaker 1: it if I was just like, Okay, well i'm gonna
Speaker 1: do this. I'm gonna do that, right. I totally it's
Speaker 1: a very it's a huge double standard. We have to
Speaker 1: understand that men are babies. Their egos are easily fragiled,
Speaker 1: fragiled I think I made up a word. Their Their
Speaker 1: egos are easily fragiled. Is that easily broken? Sure? Broken?
Speaker 1: And I you know, if you're not stroking their fractured fractured,
Speaker 1: easily fractured. Yes, yes, there we go. Um. They always
Speaker 1: want their ego stroked. They always want to feel like
Speaker 1: they're so very important, they're so needed, they're so wanted.
Speaker 1: But let them think you're getting attention from somebody else.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, so ladies, you heard it
Speaker 1: from me first. If you're in a relationship, and even
Speaker 1: if that relationship is amazing, that is your boo. He's
Speaker 1: got your back and you are you rightly so have
Speaker 1: his back. That is that is just your main man.
Speaker 1: And y'all are y'all are doing the dog on thing
Speaker 1: every now and again. Gone and put that freaking dress
Speaker 1: and put them high heels on, and call all of
Speaker 1: your girlfriends and let him know that you've called all
Speaker 1: of your girlfriends, and y'all are going out and do
Speaker 1: not come home until the sun comes up. Okay, just
Speaker 1: do it. And let me tell you something. That's just
Speaker 1: a little check in. It's just a little let him know, like,
Speaker 1: don't get froggy, buddy, because other people are out here
Speaker 1: who think I am sexy. He needs to know that
Speaker 1: at all times. And when you come home, he is
Speaker 1: gonna be like, you have a good time. Let me
Speaker 1: say that. I think I can say this. I think
Speaker 1: I can say this, so you know I have a
Speaker 1: good girlfriend. Eric Allows and Kevin and like, you know,
Speaker 1: I think they won't mind me telling this story. But um,
Speaker 1: one day I was coming into New York just to
Speaker 1: hang out and with a with a couple of girlfriends,
Speaker 1: you know Erica. Tokevin, like, if we're gonna hang out
Speaker 1: this girl's night out? He was like all right, So
Speaker 1: he was like, you know what y'all need. So we
Speaker 1: actually needed for him to get us a v I
Speaker 1: P section in the club. So he, you know, Kevin Lyles,
Speaker 1: Mr Kevin Lyles, he goes into the club when we
Speaker 1: got there, he came, he paid for everything, He talked
Speaker 1: to all the security guards, he was like, take care
Speaker 1: of them. He put down the black card, so we
Speaker 1: were like free to do us for the nights. Okay,
Speaker 1: kind of kind of because clearly he'd probably pay some
Speaker 1: people to take pictures of us. Well whatever. Um, so
Speaker 1: long story, sure, we didn't expect the night to go
Speaker 1: this way. Long story short, it went the way of
Speaker 1: eric Allows didn't get home into the sun. It was
Speaker 1: literally like five thirty in the morning. So the funny
Speaker 1: part about it was I had like, let's say, a
Speaker 1: seven am flight, so I literally went to the hotel,
Speaker 1: packed my bags and went straight to the airport. And
Speaker 1: as I'm at the airport, I get I get a
Speaker 1: call from Kevin an Erica, and the call went a
Speaker 1: little something like this, because Kevin, if you really wants
Speaker 1: to talk to me, he calls me from Erica's phone.
Speaker 1: So when when I look at it and says Erica.
Speaker 1: But then when I pressed um answer, it's Kevin. So
Speaker 1: she's sitting there right there with him, and he was like, really,
Speaker 1: this is what we're doing. Oh my god, is that
Speaker 1: what we're doing. So I've been home all night, my
Speaker 1: wife didn't get home. It's your fault. It was your fault.
Speaker 1: I mean know it was the collective fault of girl's
Speaker 1: night out, but you know what that was. That was
Speaker 1: cool for me to know that not cool, but it
Speaker 1: was like a good Like every now and again, you
Speaker 1: gotta let these dudes know for sure, Hey, they are
Speaker 1: married to a hot girl that be they can go
Speaker 1: out and have fun and tear the club up and
Speaker 1: see they're gonna come home when they come home. And
Speaker 1: trust me, when you're out, their mind is going crazy.
Speaker 1: Their imagination is running wild. They are like she is
Speaker 1: being lifted, someone is lifting her, and she striding his
Speaker 1: face and there's humping on the floor. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And you know what, these guys are tormenting themselves when
Speaker 1: we're out and having our having our hot girl fun.
Speaker 1: But we're not thinking about them, right, We're just having fun. Right. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the phone is in the in the purse and they
Speaker 1: on face time to call twenty times, so they're ready
Speaker 1: to call the police because they're scared to think you're, like,
Speaker 1: you know, missing, but really they know you're really not.
Speaker 1: And then and then let me tell you what what
Speaker 1: they do, so they'll be like, I say, it's five girlfriends.
Speaker 1: The single single hot girl is posting all night on
Speaker 1: her Instagram, so like, yeah, so all the husbands are
Speaker 1: like scrolling through China see oh my gosh. In the background,
Speaker 1: who's that dude? And in the background corner, who's that dude?
Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, you know, long story short, ladies,
Speaker 1: do not lose yourself in whatever relationship that you're in.
Speaker 1: Make sure you maintain your strength, your independence, your self
Speaker 1: worth because it can easily get wrapped up into him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now that I did it.
Speaker 1: You know, I was in a shadow. You know. Jamal
Speaker 1: Bryant is a huge personality a huge figure. Any room
Speaker 1: he walks in, he sucks out all the air. And
Speaker 1: I didn't have my own sense of who I am
Speaker 1: and who I want to be. So you know, I
Speaker 1: tell my children a don't date an athlete robin um
Speaker 1: or or a or a megapath um those two things
Speaker 1: jack chack or a rapper check um. But make sure that,
Speaker 1: no matter what, you always maintain who and what you are.
Speaker 1: And that gets confusing sometimes because we all want to
Speaker 1: grow and develop, right, we all want to strive to greatness.
Speaker 1: But make sure that whatever relationship you're in, if he's
Speaker 1: not helping you get to your individual greatness, you need
Speaker 1: to leave. That's a word, because he will suck it
Speaker 1: out of you. Right. If your man is not cheering
Speaker 1: you on, if he's not supporting you, if he's not
Speaker 1: encouraging you, you know he ain't for you. He's not
Speaker 1: for you. He's not for you. But I'm but I
Speaker 1: will say, like I said, sometimes you do have to
Speaker 1: split up. Yeah, but break up, file for divorce, move on.
Speaker 1: That's not to say that you'll never get back together,
Speaker 1: but sometimes they need, you know, that's that smack on
Speaker 1: the head to wake themselves up. And realize what they
Speaker 1: had and how to be a better man for that
Speaker 1: person that you are becoming or that you are destined
Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, and let's be clear, you know, breakup
Speaker 1: or makeup. I mean, the reality of it is, relationships
Speaker 1: are tough. It's a it's a it's a everyday journey. Um.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yes, Jamal and I we broke up
Speaker 1: our marriage based off of, um, you know, infidelity, But
Speaker 1: if that had not happened, I always think, you know,
Speaker 1: because I was being swallowed in this marriage what I
Speaker 1: have eventually snapped and wanted to leave because that's just
Speaker 1: not it was sucking out who I am and who
Speaker 1: I feel like her become. Um, I don't know. But
Speaker 1: but he and I both say that us getting a
Speaker 1: divorce was the best thing that ever happened to him
Speaker 1: and to me individually. Um. But you know, of course,
Speaker 1: we have three beautiful kids, so it was all worth
Speaker 1: it in the in And I feel like I don't
Speaker 1: make no mistakes. No, he sure doesn't. He sure does not.
Speaker 1: But it would be nice if we could, you know,
Speaker 1: figure out how to reduce the divorce rate, how to
Speaker 1: keep families together. But it's hard, it's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 1: I always say that relationships are work, and unfortunately for me,
Speaker 1: sometimes I just get throw my hands in the air
Speaker 1: and give up and I don't want to work. You know.
Speaker 1: I was saying this recently to one of our girlfriends
Speaker 1: and you were there, and she said, she's been married
Speaker 1: for like seven No, she's been married for two years,
Speaker 1: but she's been with this guy for about seven years.
Speaker 1: And she said, um, I don't ever feel like our
Speaker 1: relationship is work. And everybody else in the room was like,
Speaker 1: wait on it, wait on it, because it's coming. Um.
Speaker 1: And not to say that work is a bad thing exactly,
Speaker 1: but you gotta work to make sure that you're happy,
Speaker 1: that he's happy, that collectively y'all are happy. The kids come,
Speaker 1: that derails things. I mean, it's toss indeed, right, and
Speaker 1: you grow and you evolve, and you know, sometimes you
Speaker 1: grow apart, but that doesn't mean that's the end of
Speaker 1: your relationship. When you grow apart, you gotta figure out, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: how can I grow with that person and meet them
Speaker 1: where they are and adapt and change and so it takes.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of give and take. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of um. You know. I always say you know, no
Speaker 1: human is perfect, and so I think sometimes when people
Speaker 1: do mess up, people get so angry about what that
Speaker 1: person did to them. But I always say, that person,
Speaker 1: because they're not perfect, would have done that to anyone.
Speaker 1: So you always have to take out like the personal
Speaker 1: feeling like he hurt me, Like no, he would have
Speaker 1: hurt anyone because he's not where he should be in life,
Speaker 1: or because you know, he would have made this mistake anyway.
Speaker 1: So I think sometimes when women get so so bitter
Speaker 1: and angry and then they you know, cause problems with
Speaker 1: you know, the seeing the kids, and they want to
Speaker 1: you know, retaliate, that's when things get worse. So if
Speaker 1: if you know, let's go for a woman or a man,
Speaker 1: like when the other person hurts you, just realize they're
Speaker 1: not hurting you intentionally. They're doing it because they're not perfect.
Speaker 1: And when you can remove that element, it helps just
Speaker 1: in in moving forward. And then also you know, let's
Speaker 1: let's be clear, like if you find your dude cheating
Speaker 1: on you, do you then circle back and if if
Speaker 1: you're all gonna make it, you know, y'all, y'all are
Speaker 1: gonna you know, go down this journey and go down
Speaker 1: this test of time. Do you sit set new boundaries?
Speaker 1: Do you set ultimatums? Do you say, okay, this happened
Speaker 1: in order for us to make it right? Um, I
Speaker 1: want a trip to the French riviera, or I want
Speaker 1: a new pair of shoes, or I want a Cartier bracelet?
Speaker 1: Like do you set do you set parameters? That's a
Speaker 1: band aid? Like do you know asking for I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not okay if the guy messed up, like, that's
Speaker 1: nice if he wants to give you stuff, But that
Speaker 1: shouldn't be like, Okay, just give me this and I'm
Speaker 1: fine and we can move forward. Um, but a lot
Speaker 1: of women do that. I I mean is that materialistic? Yeah? Like,
Speaker 1: how does that solve? Just just for the record, I
Speaker 1: don't do that. No, I mean it doesn't know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't solve the problem. You're right, it does put a
Speaker 1: band aid on it. But do you say, okay, let's
Speaker 1: do a post nup. Let's put in writing that if
Speaker 1: this ever happens again, it's a wrap. I'm for it
Speaker 1: right now. Mind you? Speaking of nups, ladies, don't you
Speaker 1: ever get married. I don't care what you don't care
Speaker 1: if you got five hours and he has seventeen, don't
Speaker 1: you ever get married without a prenup, okay, because you
Speaker 1: do not know where this relationship is going financially, and
Speaker 1: finances are important and you want to protect yourself if
Speaker 1: and when you got you get a divorce, you want
Speaker 1: to protect yourself. So you want to make sure that
Speaker 1: you are that there's no fight. We we ain't fighting
Speaker 1: over money, like I didn't. I didn't have a prenup,
Speaker 1: so you didn't. I did not because it was a fight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a fight, but like I just said, like
Speaker 1: we didn't have much, like we grew it all together. Um,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't a fight over money necessarily, it was
Speaker 1: a fight over I guess it was over money. Okay,
Speaker 1: who am I lying? Yes? Okay, so we're fighting over money.
Speaker 1: You're fighting over that's why I say the kids. But like, no,
Speaker 1: it was a fight over money, and I will that's
Speaker 1: that's a never. I will never ever do that to myself.
Speaker 1: A game. Okay, So that's that. I mean, that's good
Speaker 1: advice because you could get married, like you said you could.
Speaker 1: You could get married when you're twenty one and you're
Speaker 1: both young and you're growing, and then one of you
Speaker 1: can turn into a mogul. You can start a company
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's a fight, you know.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, it's it's definitely good to have that
Speaker 1: stuff up front. And I feel like that that makes
Speaker 1: the when their kids involved, that makes it even harder,
Speaker 1: you know, to get to a good place when it
Speaker 1: comes to the kids. It's like you're fighting over the money.
Speaker 1: Now you're being bitter and you're fighting over the kids
Speaker 1: and and you all. You also need to understand that
Speaker 1: marriage is marriage and even just any relationship, it's it's
Speaker 1: a transaction. It's it's you know, you can't break it
Speaker 1: down for it to be like a business transaction so
Speaker 1: to speak. Right, So you have to decide for yourself, Ladies,
Speaker 1: how many times if you if you're gonna talk cheating,
Speaker 1: how many times it's too many times? Like, don't just
Speaker 1: go down this road and say, um, well I'm just
Speaker 1: in a relationship and whatever happens happens, and I'll just
Speaker 1: deal with it when it happens. No, you need to
Speaker 1: set boundaries for yourself. You need to set a precedent
Speaker 1: for yourself. Um, because this is your life. Don't ever
Speaker 1: And it's going back to that cam allows. He taught me, Giselle,
Speaker 1: live your movie, don't live no man's movie. This is
Speaker 1: your life, this is your road. And it's nice if
Speaker 1: y'all can live the movie together, but don't live somebody
Speaker 1: else's life. Have your own. Yes, you know he didn't
Speaker 1: say that at five o'clock in the morning when I
Speaker 1: was like, what I said about leaving a movie, I
Speaker 1: didn't mean in the club, right, But I mean just this,
Speaker 1: just word word for a while. So I think we've
Speaker 1: given people a lot of stuff. I know, I know,
Speaker 1: am I And like I said, my my um final
Speaker 1: word on this, Like when we're talking about forgiveness, Um,
Speaker 1: if you choose to take someone back who cheated, then
Speaker 1: you chose to take them back. So don't don't hold
Speaker 1: those bitter feelings moving forward. You have to be willing
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, that happened in the past,
Speaker 1: and we're moving forward from it, so you don't need
Speaker 1: to bring it up over and over again. You don't
Speaker 1: need to be walking around pouting angry. You don't need
Speaker 1: to be like, well, well tell me again what happened. Nope,
Speaker 1: let it go and move on. If you choose to stay,
Speaker 1: then let it go. Yes, not that I agree with that.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not good with that, right because I will
Speaker 1: let you live in purgatory for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes it doesn't hurt to remind them what
Speaker 1: they were capable of, or you know, sometimes you know
Speaker 1: like oh right, okay, remember when you did that? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't hurt to remind them. But I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: don't hold on to like the bittern and the pain
Speaker 1: and the anger, um, because it's not going to help you.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna help you, and it's not going to
Speaker 1: help the relationship. And to be honest with you, and
Speaker 1: I got this from Oprah Winfrey, forgiveness is for you,
Speaker 1: forgiveness of what somebody has done to you. It's for you,
Speaker 1: it's for your peace, it's for your sanity. Um. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's great for for them to know that you forgive them,
Speaker 1: but it's really for yourself. Um. Okay. So we want
Speaker 1: to always end any of our podcasts with a reasonable
Speaker 1: situation and a shady situation. And to be quite honest, Robin,
Speaker 1: you should be very proud of me because I was
Speaker 1: not shady at all in this second episode. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have a little bit shady a little bit. Okay,
Speaker 1: So it was reasonable. So it's fine. Okay, So do
Speaker 1: you want to give our So because this podcast is
Speaker 1: about relationships, we wanted to give our reasonable relationships. Okay. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're going, I'm gonna give the shady. Okay, good, Yes,
Speaker 1: so you can get the reasonable. So my reasonable relationship
Speaker 1: goes to Will and Jada Pinkett. They have a wonderful
Speaker 1: relationship with Will's first wife, who they have a child with. Um,
Speaker 1: they have a wonderful family unit. It seems like, you know,
Speaker 1: they're they're pretty open with their experiences, and I think
Speaker 1: they are. Um. You know, of course we don't know
Speaker 1: every little detail about what happens behind closed doors, but
Speaker 1: I think what they've shared with us is something for
Speaker 1: us to all, you know, learn from and grow from
Speaker 1: and strive to be if you're ever in a situation
Speaker 1: like that. Yes, I love that. I love that Will
Speaker 1: and Jad I mean Will and Jada for whatever it's worth,
Speaker 1: their goals, their relationship goals fortuately. Um, okay, So let's
Speaker 1: talk about some shady couples out here. Industry. You have, man,
Speaker 1: So I have actually a couple I have to So
Speaker 1: first I want to say, and I kind of really
Speaker 1: don't want to say this because she has passed away,
Speaker 1: but with me and Bobby. Oh and the only reason
Speaker 1: why I say is shady because I was hurt when
Speaker 1: they broke up. I thought they would be together forever
Speaker 1: because they were both the right kind of crazy right
Speaker 1: to make a relationship work with each other. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: you know see I felt like they were almost each
Speaker 1: other's worst enemy. They weren't good for each other. Okay,
Speaker 1: So and that's that's rob shady take. And then we
Speaker 1: have ray J and Princess. Princess found out that she
Speaker 1: was getting divorced on Instagram. Yeah, what is it? But
Speaker 1: now aren't they back together? What is that? I feel
Speaker 1: like I keep hearing the make up a breakup? Okay,
Speaker 1: I have an issue when couples just air out their
Speaker 1: issues on social media. Stop it anyway? Like, yeah, so
Speaker 1: we could go down the line, right, ray J and
Speaker 1: Princess super shady because because the problem is when you
Speaker 1: let the public into your relationship problems and then you
Speaker 1: get back with that person, well, the public did not
Speaker 1: forget about your relationship problem. Yes, because ray J, I'm
Speaker 1: sideye and you sir, right side eye on you. So
Speaker 1: aren't they back together? I don't know what always be
Speaker 1: shady and but that's the same thing like Quabo and Sweetie,
Speaker 1: Like Quebo. You was talking about taking the Bentley back
Speaker 1: boy by right, Yeah, I had love for you. I
Speaker 1: mean I was gonna make you my wife. Yes, but
Speaker 1: then when people come in, you don't want to hear
Speaker 1: it because but you just let it all in. Anyway,
Speaker 1: all right, we are out of here. We absolutely love
Speaker 1: you guys. Thank you so much for tuning in. Too
Speaker 1: Reasonably Shady next week we're probably going to be talking
Speaker 1: about We're gonna be talking about confidence. Um. Over confidence
Speaker 1: is confidence a killer when it comes to relationships, you know, um,
Speaker 1: romantic relationships and friendships and and professional relationships and professional relationships.
Speaker 1: So um. And at some point we're gonna start taking
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