1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:16,155 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. This 2 00:00:16,235 --> 00:00:19,955 Speaker 1: is a Countdown Bulletin podcast. I'm Keith Olberman. The senior 3 00:00:19,995 --> 00:00:25,755 Speaker 1: Trump administration official quote conceded that attacking targets on Venezuela's 4 00:00:25,795 --> 00:00:31,235 Speaker 1: mainland would force Trump to get congressional approval. Quote. If 5 00:00:31,235 --> 00:00:35,915 Speaker 1: he were to authorize some activity on land then its war, 6 00:00:36,515 --> 00:00:42,075 Speaker 1: then we'd need Congress. That White House official was Susie Wiles, 7 00:00:42,315 --> 00:00:46,155 Speaker 1: dictator Trump's chief of staff. The interview was conducted by 8 00:00:46,235 --> 00:00:50,235 Speaker 1: Vanity Fair magazine two months and one day ago, and 9 00:00:50,355 --> 00:00:56,035 Speaker 1: she was entirely right. Trump needed a declaration of war. 10 00:00:56,595 --> 00:01:01,755 Speaker 1: Yet overnight, without that, Trump invaded Venezuela, seized its leader, 11 00:01:01,835 --> 00:01:07,155 Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro, killed Venezuelans. To paraphrase his own chief of staff, 12 00:01:07,355 --> 00:01:12,195 Speaker 1: Trump did authorize some activity on land and its war, 13 00:01:12,755 --> 00:01:16,995 Speaker 1: and he'd need Congress. And Trump instead broke the law 14 00:01:17,395 --> 00:01:23,955 Speaker 1: and breached the Constitution of the United States. Trump did this, anyway, 15 00:01:24,395 --> 00:01:29,035 Speaker 1: from inside his madness, from within his monomaniacal delusional fog, 16 00:01:29,395 --> 00:01:32,715 Speaker 1: without any legal right to do so, without any legal 17 00:01:32,835 --> 00:01:37,315 Speaker 1: right there, and without any legal right here on his own, 18 00:01:37,755 --> 00:01:41,995 Speaker 1: without congressional approval, without the nation's approval, without even the 19 00:01:41,995 --> 00:01:47,275 Speaker 1: flimsiest of the fig leaves of democracy, without any international consensus, 20 00:01:48,155 --> 00:01:52,755 Speaker 1: without any concern for the international consequences, without any consideration 21 00:01:52,915 --> 00:01:58,515 Speaker 1: of the precedent. He immediately provides China in Taiwan, Russia 22 00:01:58,635 --> 00:02:03,755 Speaker 1: in Poland, and any other tyrannical bandit nation anywhere in 23 00:02:03,795 --> 00:02:08,315 Speaker 1: this world. And we, thanks to Trump, we the United 24 00:02:08,315 --> 00:02:14,555 Speaker 1: States of America, are now that tyrannical bandit nation. It 25 00:02:14,635 --> 00:02:17,835 Speaker 1: is so bad, it is so obvious, it is so 26 00:02:18,195 --> 00:02:23,195 Speaker 1: unconstitutional that even some Republicans woke up in the middle 27 00:02:23,235 --> 00:02:27,235 Speaker 1: of the night and noticed quote I look forward to 28 00:02:27,315 --> 00:02:32,155 Speaker 1: learning what, if anything, might constitutionally justify this action in 29 00:02:32,235 --> 00:02:36,155 Speaker 1: the absence of a declaration of war or authorization for 30 00:02:36,235 --> 00:02:41,795 Speaker 1: the use of military force. Rights Senator Mike Lee of Utah, 31 00:02:42,275 --> 00:02:46,675 Speaker 1: Of all people, and most importantly, perhaps thanks to Trump, 32 00:02:46,795 --> 00:02:49,835 Speaker 1: any other nation on this planet that invents an excuse 33 00:02:50,195 --> 00:02:54,075 Speaker 1: that looks like some kind of legal prosecution. Anybody who 34 00:02:54,115 --> 00:02:57,795 Speaker 1: can get its equivalent of a cliant department of Justice 35 00:02:58,035 --> 00:03:01,715 Speaker 1: and its equivalent of a comatose Congress, and its equivalent 36 00:03:01,755 --> 00:03:05,795 Speaker 1: of an authoritarian based political party to make up self 37 00:03:06,035 --> 00:03:10,155 Speaker 1: justifying laws and excuses. Any other country that can use 38 00:03:10,235 --> 00:03:14,755 Speaker 1: sophistry to create a serious sounding but meaningless phrase like 39 00:03:15,195 --> 00:03:19,315 Speaker 1: narco terrorist. Any country that can just stick a hyphen 40 00:03:19,715 --> 00:03:23,235 Speaker 1: and that word terrorist on it and declare any leader 41 00:03:23,275 --> 00:03:26,955 Speaker 1: in the world guilty of it, any leader, including Trump, 42 00:03:27,555 --> 00:03:31,355 Speaker 1: and take the piratical act he just completed there. They 43 00:03:31,355 --> 00:03:34,715 Speaker 1: can now try to repeat it here in this country. 44 00:03:36,195 --> 00:03:39,435 Speaker 1: Call Trump a fill in the blank, add an O, 45 00:03:40,075 --> 00:03:43,915 Speaker 1: add the word terrorist and vow to prosecute him. And 46 00:03:44,035 --> 00:03:47,195 Speaker 1: some other nation could have done what he just did 47 00:03:47,195 --> 00:03:51,435 Speaker 1: in Venezuela and could cite its move against Trump or 48 00:03:51,555 --> 00:03:57,355 Speaker 1: any other leader in the world, anyone you can consider Canada, Ukraine, 49 00:03:58,035 --> 00:04:02,235 Speaker 1: anything in South America, Australia, any leader in the world 50 00:04:02,595 --> 00:04:07,195 Speaker 1: is now vulnerable as long as whoever seizes him cites 51 00:04:07,435 --> 00:04:12,715 Speaker 1: the move in Venezuela by Trump. Thus, Trump has now 52 00:04:12,795 --> 00:04:17,155 Speaker 1: endangered every man, woman and child in this nation by 53 00:04:17,195 --> 00:04:22,875 Speaker 1: this insane and illegal personal war against Venezuela. Trump must 54 00:04:22,915 --> 00:04:28,275 Speaker 1: be impeached and removed from office immediately. And if the cowardly, 55 00:04:28,515 --> 00:04:33,995 Speaker 1: brazen anti democracy Republican Party again sits idly by raising 56 00:04:34,075 --> 00:04:38,715 Speaker 1: no alarm because it's Saturday and everybody except Mike Lee 57 00:04:38,835 --> 00:04:43,155 Speaker 1: has devoted their energies to rationalizing Trump's newest crime, and 58 00:04:43,235 --> 00:04:45,275 Speaker 1: we know that is exactly what they will do, at 59 00:04:45,355 --> 00:04:48,875 Speaker 1: least in the House, or more exactly exactly what they 60 00:04:48,875 --> 00:04:52,875 Speaker 1: will not do. If the Republican whorees keep houring today 61 00:04:52,955 --> 00:04:55,035 Speaker 1: and tomorrow and in the days and weeks to come. 62 00:04:55,275 --> 00:04:58,915 Speaker 1: The Democrats, seeking office this year and seeking the presidency 63 00:04:58,955 --> 00:05:02,235 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty nine, must now commit to turning Trump 64 00:05:02,475 --> 00:05:07,275 Speaker 1: and his henchmen Marco Rubio Pambondi, the hypocritical and now 65 00:05:07,395 --> 00:05:11,835 Speaker 1: worthless Susie Wiles over to the International Court of Justice 66 00:05:12,035 --> 00:05:18,435 Speaker 1: for prosecution as war criminals use the Maduro precedent, just 67 00:05:18,595 --> 00:05:22,435 Speaker 1: have the International Court drop by and pick them up, 68 00:05:23,155 --> 00:05:29,475 Speaker 1: send an armored uber. It is important to also note 69 00:05:29,475 --> 00:05:32,355 Speaker 1: that on the simple theoretical scale of who should remain 70 00:05:32,435 --> 00:05:35,315 Speaker 1: as the leader of a failed rogue state, there is 71 00:05:35,475 --> 00:05:40,555 Speaker 1: no defense for Nicholas Maduro. There is overwhelming evidence that 72 00:05:40,635 --> 00:05:45,595 Speaker 1: he fabricated his latest quote reelection after first denuding the 73 00:05:45,675 --> 00:05:51,195 Speaker 1: opposition and the laws within his own country. Again by 74 00:05:51,275 --> 00:05:55,755 Speaker 1: those tokens, Trump has just put us on that identical path. 75 00:05:56,195 --> 00:06:00,555 Speaker 1: We are on the way to becoming Venezuela, and the 76 00:06:00,715 --> 00:06:04,235 Speaker 1: idea that a country is suffering under a dictator who 77 00:06:04,235 --> 00:06:07,355 Speaker 1: has no moral right to continue can be said even 78 00:06:07,475 --> 00:06:10,395 Speaker 1: more easily of Putin than it can be said of Maduro, 79 00:06:10,675 --> 00:06:13,435 Speaker 1: and of she in China, and of dozens of others, 80 00:06:13,635 --> 00:06:16,835 Speaker 1: many of whom Trump considers friends or at least allies, 81 00:06:17,195 --> 00:06:20,515 Speaker 1: about whom he makes no distinction as to whether or 82 00:06:20,555 --> 00:06:24,595 Speaker 1: not they are justifiable in continuing in office. Maduro has 83 00:06:24,675 --> 00:06:28,155 Speaker 1: no moral right to continue as president of Venezuela, and 84 00:06:28,515 --> 00:06:32,115 Speaker 1: Trump has no moral right to act upon that by himself. 85 00:06:32,515 --> 00:06:35,875 Speaker 1: He does not own the United States of America. He 86 00:06:36,035 --> 00:06:40,235 Speaker 1: is not our owner. We are not slaves to Trump. 87 00:06:40,675 --> 00:06:44,315 Speaker 1: Congress is not made up of slaves to Trump. The 88 00:06:44,355 --> 00:06:48,555 Speaker 1: Senate is not made up of slaves. To Trump. Trump's 89 00:06:48,595 --> 00:06:52,995 Speaker 1: actions today were ethically and legally without the support of 90 00:06:53,035 --> 00:06:57,155 Speaker 1: the United States of America. If Trump has made us 91 00:06:57,275 --> 00:07:03,035 Speaker 1: a bandit state, he is the bandit. The New York 92 00:07:03,115 --> 00:07:06,595 Speaker 1: Times reached Trump by phone minutes after he announced his private, 93 00:07:06,635 --> 00:07:10,675 Speaker 1: illegal invasion of Venezuela on social media four thirty a 94 00:07:10,915 --> 00:07:15,155 Speaker 1: m Eastern. Per the newspaper, It's reporter Tyler Pager got 95 00:07:15,235 --> 00:07:19,115 Speaker 1: him after he says three rings. Trump then said that 96 00:07:19,155 --> 00:07:21,355 Speaker 1: it was quote a lot of good planning and a 97 00:07:21,355 --> 00:07:23,955 Speaker 1: lot of great, great troops and great people. It was 98 00:07:24,035 --> 00:07:28,235 Speaker 1: a brilliant operation. Actually no sense of right or wrong. 99 00:07:28,755 --> 00:07:32,475 Speaker 1: Mister Pager then asked about that tiny detail, right or wrong? 100 00:07:32,755 --> 00:07:36,395 Speaker 1: Did he seek congressional authority before ordering what Trump described 101 00:07:36,395 --> 00:07:41,555 Speaker 1: as quote a large scale strike. Trump's answer to the Times, quote, 102 00:07:41,675 --> 00:07:44,595 Speaker 1: we'll discuss that. We're going to have a news conference. 103 00:07:44,755 --> 00:07:47,515 Speaker 1: You're going to hear all about it, and then the 104 00:07:47,555 --> 00:07:51,395 Speaker 1: Times reports he hung up. He hung up after fifty 105 00:07:51,435 --> 00:07:57,915 Speaker 1: seconds of his usual self congratulatory, insane bullshit. Trump then 106 00:07:57,955 --> 00:08:01,035 Speaker 1: went on Fox early this morning. He called his critics 107 00:08:01,195 --> 00:08:02,995 Speaker 1: the ones who are demanding to know how in the 108 00:08:02,995 --> 00:08:05,555 Speaker 1: hell he thinks he can just piss on the constitution, 109 00:08:05,955 --> 00:08:10,475 Speaker 1: presumably ones like Senator Mike Lee, a Republican. He called them, quote, 110 00:08:10,635 --> 00:08:15,355 Speaker 1: these are weak, stupid people. Trump then promptly showed that 111 00:08:15,435 --> 00:08:19,355 Speaker 1: every Trumpian accusation is a confession. He still cannot process 112 00:08:19,395 --> 00:08:23,635 Speaker 1: that political asylum and mental asylums are different things. Today 113 00:08:24,035 --> 00:08:26,915 Speaker 1: this morning, of what he just did to Maduro in 114 00:08:26,995 --> 00:08:30,035 Speaker 1: Venezuela and what he just did to the US Constitution, 115 00:08:30,355 --> 00:08:33,595 Speaker 1: he said, quote, they emptied out, if you think about it, 116 00:08:33,795 --> 00:08:37,235 Speaker 1: they emptied out all of their mental institutions into our 117 00:08:37,315 --> 00:08:43,235 Speaker 1: country unquote weak and stupid. We have almost a monopoly 118 00:08:43,315 --> 00:08:47,155 Speaker 1: on it in the White House. The Fox News propagandist 119 00:08:47,195 --> 00:08:51,195 Speaker 1: prostitutes then let him preview his next potential impeachable offense, 120 00:08:51,635 --> 00:08:55,835 Speaker 1: quoting Trump again, the cartels are running Mexico. She's not 121 00:08:55,995 --> 00:09:00,395 Speaker 1: running Mexico. By she, he means President Shinbaum. Quote. We 122 00:09:00,475 --> 00:09:03,155 Speaker 1: could be politically correct and be nice and say, oh, yes, 123 00:09:03,235 --> 00:09:06,715 Speaker 1: she is. No, no, she's very frightened of the cartels. 124 00:09:06,915 --> 00:09:10,675 Speaker 1: They're running Mexico. And I've asked her number times, would 125 00:09:10,715 --> 00:09:14,515 Speaker 1: you like us to take out the cartels. Something is 126 00:09:14,555 --> 00:09:18,635 Speaker 1: going to have to be done with Mexico. If Trump 127 00:09:18,875 --> 00:09:22,875 Speaker 1: gets away with what he has done to Maduro in Venezuela, 128 00:09:23,155 --> 00:09:26,915 Speaker 1: he will now try to act on our own shores, 129 00:09:27,315 --> 00:09:33,155 Speaker 1: on our own border, against our own neighbors. But that 130 00:09:33,315 --> 00:09:36,395 Speaker 1: is ahead. We are still talking about what he did 131 00:09:36,555 --> 00:09:40,995 Speaker 1: last night, how he violated the Constitution and rendered himself 132 00:09:42,315 --> 00:09:46,635 Speaker 1: inappropriate to continue as president of the United States. The 133 00:09:46,675 --> 00:09:50,515 Speaker 1: premise of this brazenly illegal invasion is a twenty twenty 134 00:09:50,555 --> 00:09:54,075 Speaker 1: indictment of Maduro in New York on various drug trafficking charges. 135 00:09:54,715 --> 00:09:56,955 Speaker 1: This will be the structure by which Trump will almost 136 00:09:57,035 --> 00:10:01,475 Speaker 1: certainly follow up his private, unconstitutional war by attacking all 137 00:10:01,515 --> 00:10:06,475 Speaker 1: those who speak out against his unconstitutional action. The idea 138 00:10:06,875 --> 00:10:09,555 Speaker 1: that he did not involve Congress, and thus, by extension, 139 00:10:09,755 --> 00:10:11,995 Speaker 1: that he did not involve the people of this country, 140 00:10:12,115 --> 00:10:14,875 Speaker 1: and that he violated the constitution. All of that will 141 00:10:14,955 --> 00:10:19,915 Speaker 1: be swamped under a massive wave of propaganda, with the 142 00:10:19,955 --> 00:10:23,555 Speaker 1: seemingly but still phony structure of indictments and the Department 143 00:10:23,595 --> 00:10:28,515 Speaker 1: of Justice at its center. Overnight, that hapless kerr Pamela 144 00:10:28,595 --> 00:10:32,755 Speaker 1: Bondi wrote, quote, Nicholas Maduro and his wife, Celia Flores 145 00:10:33,115 --> 00:10:35,555 Speaker 1: have been indicted in the Southern District of New York. 146 00:10:35,875 --> 00:10:42,155 Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro has been charged with narco terrorism, conspiracy, cocaine importation, conspiracy, 147 00:10:42,395 --> 00:10:46,995 Speaker 1: possession of machine guns and destructive devices, and conspiracy to 148 00:10:47,075 --> 00:10:51,155 Speaker 1: possess machine guns and destructive devices against the United States. 149 00:10:52,235 --> 00:10:54,675 Speaker 1: That none of that makes sense in English is not 150 00:10:54,835 --> 00:10:58,595 Speaker 1: relevant to miss Bondi, who is a moron. Quote, they 151 00:10:58,635 --> 00:11:01,995 Speaker 1: will soon face the full wrath of American justice on 152 00:11:02,115 --> 00:11:06,115 Speaker 1: American soil, in American courts, on behalf of the US 153 00:11:06,275 --> 00:11:10,915 Speaker 1: DOJ blah blah blah. She then massaged Trump's ego before 154 00:11:11,075 --> 00:11:14,555 Speaker 1: spouting the nonsensical word salad that has marked all of 155 00:11:14,595 --> 00:11:18,835 Speaker 1: Trump's illegal actions against Venezuela, calling this latest one quote 156 00:11:19,275 --> 00:11:24,115 Speaker 1: incredible and highly successful mission to capture these two alleged 157 00:11:24,235 --> 00:11:31,635 Speaker 1: international narco traffickers. JD Vance has added another bovine bleat 158 00:11:31,835 --> 00:11:35,755 Speaker 1: to this unconstitutional act that Trump warned Maduro that the 159 00:11:35,875 --> 00:11:40,355 Speaker 1: drug trafficking must stop and the stolen oil must be 160 00:11:40,435 --> 00:11:44,235 Speaker 1: returned to the United States unquote. At least when this 161 00:11:44,355 --> 00:11:47,835 Speaker 1: government endangers the life of every American in an international 162 00:11:47,875 --> 00:11:50,875 Speaker 1: act of terrorism. It does not pretend that this is 163 00:11:50,915 --> 00:11:56,715 Speaker 1: not about more money for American corporations. There is comic relief. 164 00:11:57,075 --> 00:12:00,275 Speaker 1: The writer Michael A. Cohen, not the former Trump fixer, 165 00:12:00,635 --> 00:12:04,355 Speaker 1: writes that if Maduro is smart, he will quickly plead guilty. 166 00:12:04,795 --> 00:12:09,915 Speaker 1: Fast track is own sentencing than by a Trump drug pardon. 167 00:12:12,195 --> 00:12:14,875 Speaker 1: There is another question to raise in the days to come. 168 00:12:15,195 --> 00:12:18,915 Speaker 1: When the Democratic military veterans serving in the Senate and 169 00:12:19,075 --> 00:12:23,155 Speaker 1: House produced the video reminding those still on active service 170 00:12:23,195 --> 00:12:26,595 Speaker 1: that they were obliged by their oaths to not obey 171 00:12:26,675 --> 00:12:31,075 Speaker 1: illegal orders from Trump. Were these Democrats only talking about 172 00:12:31,115 --> 00:12:35,835 Speaker 1: his demands that soldiers act illegally within this country's borders, 173 00:12:36,315 --> 00:12:39,555 Speaker 1: or did Mark Kelly and Slatkin and the others see 174 00:12:39,595 --> 00:12:43,395 Speaker 1: this kind of piracy coming from Trump in Venezuela and 175 00:12:43,915 --> 00:12:48,795 Speaker 1: was reminding those service members that these orders might also 176 00:12:48,955 --> 00:12:54,915 Speaker 1: be illegal. Were these orders illegal without congressional authorization? Were 177 00:12:55,035 --> 00:13:01,315 Speaker 1: these orders in Venezuela overnight illegal? The structure of the 178 00:13:01,515 --> 00:13:05,195 Speaker 1: entire rationalization, the rationalization of the seizure of the leader 179 00:13:05,315 --> 00:13:09,235 Speaker 1: of another country, and the rationalization for violating the constitution 180 00:13:09,315 --> 00:13:12,235 Speaker 1: of this country. The structure of that is built around 181 00:13:12,435 --> 00:13:16,555 Speaker 1: the BONDI nonsense. We know he's guilty, We've indicted him, 182 00:13:16,915 --> 00:13:21,595 Speaker 1: So what a little invasion? So what America f Yeah, 183 00:13:22,515 --> 00:13:26,675 Speaker 1: based on that and the boldness of our simp Secretary 184 00:13:26,715 --> 00:13:32,355 Speaker 1: of State Marco Rubio, he rationalized this by retweeting himself 185 00:13:32,915 --> 00:13:36,795 Speaker 1: quote Maduro is not the president of Venezuela and his 186 00:13:36,835 --> 00:13:40,755 Speaker 1: regime is not the legitimate government. Maduro is the head 187 00:13:40,795 --> 00:13:44,955 Speaker 1: of the Cartel de los Soles, a narco terror organization 188 00:13:45,315 --> 00:13:47,875 Speaker 1: which has taken possession of a country, and he is 189 00:13:47,995 --> 00:13:53,475 Speaker 1: under indictment for pushing drugs into the United States. End quote. 190 00:13:53,715 --> 00:13:57,435 Speaker 1: Rubio had written that on his official State Department account 191 00:13:57,715 --> 00:14:01,235 Speaker 1: on July twenty seventh, of this year last year, correcting 192 00:14:01,595 --> 00:14:03,995 Speaker 1: he could not even be bothered to write something new 193 00:14:04,155 --> 00:14:07,955 Speaker 1: this morning. Curiously, when he retweeted that, he did not 194 00:14:08,195 --> 00:14:11,875 Speaker 1: send it out from its original State Department handle. He 195 00:14:11,995 --> 00:14:16,995 Speaker 1: retweeted it from his personal account. Presumably that ambiguity of 196 00:14:17,035 --> 00:14:19,875 Speaker 1: whether or not that statement his regime is not the 197 00:14:19,995 --> 00:14:23,515 Speaker 1: legitimate government, whether or not that's the official position of 198 00:14:23,515 --> 00:14:26,195 Speaker 1: the government of the United States is left unclear. That 199 00:14:26,315 --> 00:14:29,475 Speaker 1: may be useful to Marco Rubio if and when he 200 00:14:29,955 --> 00:14:34,755 Speaker 1: has to mount a criminal defense for what happened overnight. Ultimately, 201 00:14:34,875 --> 00:14:38,515 Speaker 1: Rubio's statement, official or personal, is the real point here. 202 00:14:38,995 --> 00:14:43,955 Speaker 1: Any gutless, soulless, lawless Republican president can start an undeclared 203 00:14:43,995 --> 00:14:48,115 Speaker 1: war and invade a country without authorization. Even George W. 204 00:14:48,275 --> 00:14:50,795 Speaker 1: Bush did it in Iraq, and it's not like that 205 00:14:50,915 --> 00:14:56,035 Speaker 1: destabilized Iraq and destabilize the United States and wound up 206 00:14:56,115 --> 00:15:00,395 Speaker 1: killing thousands of Americans. But it takes an especially corrupt, 207 00:15:00,715 --> 00:15:04,675 Speaker 1: morally bankrupt creature like Donald Trump to do something worse 208 00:15:05,155 --> 00:15:08,395 Speaker 1: on top of that, on top of repeating the key 209 00:15:08,515 --> 00:15:12,355 Speaker 1: on constitutional move of Bush in Iraq, Because if the 210 00:15:12,395 --> 00:15:16,995 Speaker 1: American government can pretend it is somehow authorized to enact 211 00:15:17,155 --> 00:15:21,195 Speaker 1: regime change at will anywhere in the world, simply by 212 00:15:21,235 --> 00:15:24,635 Speaker 1: indicting a creature like Maduro and having some officials say 213 00:15:24,675 --> 00:15:27,595 Speaker 1: he quote is not the president of his country and 214 00:15:27,675 --> 00:15:31,435 Speaker 1: his regime is not the legitimate government. Then a hypothetical 215 00:15:31,715 --> 00:15:35,035 Speaker 1: China or Russia or any other nation on this planet 216 00:15:35,195 --> 00:15:37,635 Speaker 1: could say the same thing about Trump and try to 217 00:15:37,675 --> 00:15:40,635 Speaker 1: extract him, and suddenly the world as we know it 218 00:15:40,635 --> 00:15:46,435 Speaker 1: would be gone, and chaos would be king. And apparently, 219 00:15:47,675 --> 00:15:51,475 Speaker 1: all this hypothetical other nation would have to do to 220 00:15:51,595 --> 00:15:55,515 Speaker 1: make itself legitimate in its own eyes would be to 221 00:15:55,675 --> 00:15:59,835 Speaker 1: insist that it is acting legitimately. All it would have 222 00:15:59,955 --> 00:16:02,835 Speaker 1: to do would be to have its version of Marco 223 00:16:02,955 --> 00:16:08,875 Speaker 1: Rubio make the declaration of illegitimacy and then retweet himself. 224 00:16:11,315 --> 00:16:15,835 Speaker 1: This has been a countdown special bulletin podcast. I'm Keith Olderman. 225 00:16:25,675 --> 00:16:29,635 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For 226 00:16:29,835 --> 00:16:34,715 Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 227 00:16:34,995 --> 00:16:36,955 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.