1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: It's nine with Jenny Garth and Tory spelling. You guys, 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: this is really exciting. Uh. We have just recently introduced 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: a new character on the show, Gil Myers, and we 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: want to just take a beat and have a little 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: chat with the man behind, gil Meyers, Mr Mark Kylie. 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: It was on for thirteen episodes. That significant even to 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: this day, I always remember and a full name, gil Meers, 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: gil Meyers. You couldn't just call him gil, you had 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: to call him gil Meers, jil Meers, Mr Meyers, gil Meers. Yeah, Gil, 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: let's talk to him, let's find out. Let's do it. 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: What what up? Mark? Oh my gosh, how have you 12 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: not aged? Look at you? That didn't reverse You look 13 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: even younger than when you were on the show. Yeah, 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: that'd be nice if it was, but thank you. Yeah, 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: you look exactly the same. You guys, this is crazy. 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: You are are you um calling us from Bermuda where 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: you're sitting in front of a beautiful blue sky backdrop. Yeah. 18 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: So I live like three minutes from the beach on 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: the East coast and I'm there all the time. But 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: for some reason this year, my my wife and are 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: kidding around, so we took a picture of the beach. 22 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: We're always going to let me say beautiful. That's where 23 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: we got. So we put it up on the wall. 24 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: We could change change the winter kind of thing. Here. 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: It looks good, looks great. Yeah you are you're are 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: you out of the business. You're living in what is it? Massachusetts? 27 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: Now I'm living in Rhoe Island right next to it. 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: Um around two fourteen, fifteen sixteen, somewhere and there I 29 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: did my last film with Robert duval Um. Basically, I 30 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: I kind of stopped. I still get some calls. I'll 31 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: probably go back in a little bit. My youngest is 32 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: gonna graduate from college this year. Um, but really last 33 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: fifteen years. I no one does this. But I turned 34 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: to a professional swim coach and I owned swim teams 35 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: and and uh very very well, you know, kids from 36 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: eight years old up to eighteen and then in college. 37 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: So for we put a lot of kids in Division 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: one swimming sports was my thing. That that sport was 39 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: um and it was a great way for me to 40 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: be with my boys, you guys and moms, you know, 41 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: and that was a choice to spend more time with them. 42 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: As you guys know, Man, you get a job which 43 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: is awesome, but then you're gone and most of much 44 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: that was traveled and they were little, and I did 45 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: my wife and three boys. Man, I wanted to be around. Um. 46 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: So that's the altruistic nice thing, and I was happy 47 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: to do it. So I found that being a swim 48 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: coach brings everything together, you know, um, psychologically, when you're 49 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: training kids and teaching them, it's it's it's all the 50 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: skills we use in acting, right, you know that psychological 51 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: stuff of how to motivate those kids and understand. Um. 52 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: It was great. It was great. So we're just wrapping 53 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: up this year two. I'm going to stop that, um 54 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: and and we'll see what you'll be a retired swim 55 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: coach now going back to acting. I love it. Yeah, 56 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: I might. I mean there's still that option. Um. And 57 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: it's a different approach. But you girls know it's like, 58 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: well we do that art, it's a it's seven, right, 59 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you're thinking that you're living it, you're doing it. Um. 60 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: And I first took some time away. I was a 61 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: little concerned about that, and I said, you know, why 62 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: go live life, be with the kids, do the thing. 63 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: And it's it's been really terrific. Um, so we'll see it. 64 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: Sounds amazing and so admirable that you gave up, you 65 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: know what, what you thought you wanted or needed in 66 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: that moment, and and we're there for your wife and 67 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: your kids. It's really lovely. It changes though, you guys too, 68 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: write I mean your mom's You've made different choices here 69 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: and there. Right. Yeah, but you first into West Beverly 70 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: in season three, episode seven. Yeah, that's when we started, 71 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: I think what Jeff Melman was directing. Um, we did 72 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: not realize that you were originally cast as Rick Dean 73 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: Kane's character. Right, How do I didn't know that? How 74 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: did that go? What happened there? Wait? I can't even 75 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: see it now, Like you're you can't be Rick, you 76 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: have to be Gil. It's well, it's so long ago. 77 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: But um, you know, Tore your dad was great to me. 78 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure you're here all the time, but 79 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: he was great to me. And going in and uh man, 80 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: you know, meeting Paul and meeting meeting Darren, eating those 81 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: those guys and girls and Charles Rose and his wife. Um, 82 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: that was on the table and then this part came 83 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: up and the only controversy was at the early stages 84 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: of it. When Chris Fronk Cato wrote it, you know 85 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: he was going to be guilty of that. Gil was 86 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: going to be, you know, the real deal guilty of that. 87 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: And and me as an actor and a person, you know, 88 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: this is the world, right. So when I just come 89 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: off of what did I Do? I did law and honor, 90 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: and I played a really bad dude, right And on 91 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: the streets of New York walking back to my apartment, 92 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: people would say things to me, like, you know, you're 93 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: an awful man. I can't believe you know, It's like, dude, 94 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: it's TV. So I was just so tory and I 95 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: know what happens. But Jenny actually never has seen it, 96 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: so she doesn't really know. So she's just seen your 97 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: first episode. I don't know what you're talking about about 98 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: you that. It doesn't sound like it was good right now. 99 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: So funny, that's so funny, But that's so interesting. So 100 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: originally you were creepy. The character was creepy. I knew it. 101 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: The writers were starting to figure that out, and and 102 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: me as an actor, I was just concerned because you know, 103 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: sometimes in reality they put that on you, right, who 104 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: wants to play that, um, um, and and your dad 105 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: was cool enough to or that kind of I said, 106 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to do it that way. I don't 107 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: want to do it. And I was too young to 108 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 1: even think that saying nose wrong. But they talked about 109 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: it and then and then they rewrote it so that 110 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm well, Jenny Closers, I'm innocently accused incorrectly. Boy, I'm 111 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: still fascinated. So wait you go in you auditioned for 112 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: the role of Rick Um to play opposite Brenda, and 113 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: you got the part, like they offered you the part 114 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: and then said, oh no, just kidding or what how 115 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: did that work out? Um? They so Dean came came 116 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: in two afterwards. Um. And it was one of this 117 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: has happened a few times in my career too, where 118 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: they're they're shuffling going, okay, what do we want to 119 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: do here? And um, and Dean's storyline wasn't gonna stay 120 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: as long um, and they thought there was a potential 121 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: that the storyline would carry through for a longer time 122 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: for the writers. I believe that was the decision. I 123 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, that's what we talked here and 124 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: they're about um and then they kept rolling that guy 125 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: out that, you know, rolling Gill into that that unique 126 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: place where you guys know you were young and you 127 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: you you were starting out and you were representing that. 128 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: And I had to come in as one of those 129 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: teachers that could, um be on the borderline, young enough 130 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: to cause a little problem, um, young enough to to 131 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: not have too many of the stoic teacher stuff, yet 132 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: still a teacher, still in charge, still trying to impact 133 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: and I think correctly making mistakes because he was a 134 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: fairly new teacher. Yes, so did you play him like 135 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: overly friendly with a hint of creepy or did you 136 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: really try not to because he when you first watch, 137 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, is this gonna get weird? Yeah? So 138 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: so that's like a Red Herring, right, So you know 139 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: a TV and film especially Red Herring is for me 140 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: in that part. It's too lay in a little of 141 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: those possibilities, right and um really initially too in their 142 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: first four or five episodes, I kind of played everything 143 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: a little too slow, but but slower, you know, hoping, 144 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: hoping that sometimes that little hand shot would add that 145 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: which way is he gonna go? And when you look 146 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: at television today and you look back then to Um 147 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: or you look at Episodics. You're trying to figure out, 148 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, who done it right, and you're four different people, 149 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: so you're trying to leave the life intentionally correct, but 150 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: make some shading of like or maybe well, I just 151 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what happens, but I did definitely get 152 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: creepy vibes from you, so way to lay it in there. 153 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: How old were you when you played gil Myers when 154 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: you were cast? I don't know, Um, I should know that, 155 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't I? I guess, uh right, yeah, Google, that's I 156 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: guess I was thirty maybe, So you're practically the same age. 157 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: You're playing a teacher to kids that are actually closer 158 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: to your age in real life exactly. That's why we 159 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: came in with the beard, you know, to help that. 160 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: That was it. The beard was a choice, okay, because 161 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: it was you was a scruffy teacher. I was like, what, Yeah, 162 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: the beard was intentional to help with that, you know, 163 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: um um, And some of the behavior laid in to 164 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: delineate that because it was easy, um to not pay 165 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: attention to that. And then you know, I wasn't supposed 166 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: to be one of you guys. I wasn't supposed to 167 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: be your age. I was supposed to be just a 168 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: little bit above, just a little older. Wait, so you're 169 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: you played this apparently bad guy, teacher, bad guy, okay, 170 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: whatever it is, but that has that transferred over into 171 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: your real life being, you know, an educator and teacher. UM. 172 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: Well does anybody ever be like, uh, I don't know 173 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: about this guy? So so I was like post nine 174 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: eleven UM. Our kids were really young. I think they 175 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: were three, four and one, and that's when we had 176 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: made the decision like to come back here. And while 177 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: I was here, I was trappling for the first four 178 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: years doing jobs and I said I can't do that. 179 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: I want to release stick UM. And so in the 180 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: interim before some coaching, I was like, what do I do? 181 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: And I had a guy, a friend of mine, who 182 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: was a teacher UM and I had the qualifications and schooling, 183 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: but he suggested I go work for this UM basically 184 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: a school system that dealt with behaviorally challenge kids on 185 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 1: all levels, to the to the unfunctional and to the 186 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: high function. And so for a year and a half 187 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: I worked intermittently four or five times a week for 188 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: this UM school district that did that, and I did 189 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: it because one I was kind of a concerned about 190 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: that that that particular demographic is hard to teach, right, 191 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: um uh. And I learned a lot because it was 192 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: uncomfortable at first, and then I met great teachers. Um. 193 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: It was an amazing experience to learn how to communicate 194 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: and how to put at ease and how to educate um, 195 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: children of different levels that had different disabilities, whether they're emotional, mental. 196 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: So I did do some of that, um, but then 197 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: I turned it into the coaching because I really that 198 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: pure part. And because of that that teaching on my 199 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: team's I would always mainstream some kids that were uh uh, 200 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, had some challenges and let them see that 201 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: they're capable of doing what what the sport was. That's 202 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: so cool. I love it. So when you came onto 203 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: our show, it was already hit. It was season three. Um, 204 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: what did you think. We're like, oh my gosh, this 205 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: is going in on this show. This is big people, 206 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: and like people must have recognized you all the time. 207 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: Do they still recognize you? Yeah? They do from that 208 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: show kil Myers. You know that, right, because um, it 209 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: was pretty a wild time coming off from New York 210 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: with a lot of work in New York and coming 211 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: out there, and that was I just got in l 212 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: A and and that was a big show, right, and 213 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: you guys were it. You were setting the trend, people 214 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: paying attention to, people into it, and um it did. 215 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: It gave me a lot of presents, and it gave 216 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: me other work, but most importantly, it gave me like 217 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: more television experience. Uh, I remember the first day, so 218 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna see the episode's funny you didn't. But the 219 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: first day I worked, I had to enter the classroom 220 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: to see Brenda and to see Jason and Andrea because 221 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: it was And I did it like three or four times, 222 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: and they kept cutting. No one's saying anything. I'm like so, 223 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: so like the fifth or six times they keep cutting it, 224 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm like that sending me back to one. I'm like, man, 225 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: this didn't happen. What's going on. So one of the 226 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: producers came out with a casting director and said, hey, 227 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: are you Are you okay? Yeah, I'm fine. I don't 228 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: know why they keep cutting. They're like, you're stepping on 229 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: Jason's line. Every time I came in, Jason said something 230 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: and I stepped on them but knowing would tell me 231 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: until then. So it was really funny. So I was 232 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: always more to learn at that stage because I, you know, 233 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: been on daytime and I had done h the episodes 234 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: I could. In New York at that time, there weren't 235 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: many that was going order. There's a couple others coming in. 236 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: There was not a lot of work at that time 237 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: in television in New York City. Did uh, they didn't 238 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: tell you were stepping on Jason Swein, But did they 239 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: perhaps tell you not to look us in the eyes? 240 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm just curious now now they didn't do that. They didn't, 241 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, they'd precursor anything to that. But I was 242 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: just amazed that how you guys were handling everything, because 243 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: when when I came on, the show was really spiking 244 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: prior to me coming on and watching that and seeing 245 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: you guys have to handle a lot. And I don't 246 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: know if you talk about that or look back at it. 247 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: Um your age um coming in, the pressures and and 248 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: all new actors to actors that are getting work in 249 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: the beginning, there's a duality of of of a learning 250 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: curve and a balance and then you guys, you know, 251 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: even though I was the same Maye, you had a 252 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: different pressure, um and I can only imagine that that 253 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: that whole for at least the first three years had 254 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: to be an adjustment for you in your own personal 255 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: lives working as actors there. What did you think of 256 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: these guys? We're both like, yeah, what do you think 257 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: of the cast? When you because you were there for 258 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: thirteen episodes, that's a lot. Did you mostly work with 259 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: just Jason and Andrea or you know, in the beginning 260 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: was mostly Jason Andrea and I got some stuff and 261 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: feeling and rendering you guys a little bit interactions. We've 262 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: had those crossovers, um um. But you know, it was 263 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: a really good experience because everybody was really welcoming to me. 264 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: Um And I also think because you guys are you 265 00:15:55,640 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: know right away you're working right. So when I started Withandrea, 266 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: she welcomed the opportunity to rehearse, She welcomed the opportunity 267 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: explore that, um and sometimes and Jason and Dillon too. 268 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: They were really cool and open, which is nice because 269 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: when you sometimes come onto shows, the guys can get 270 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: a little tight until they relax, and these guys weren't. 271 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: They were really really cool. It's nice here. The funny 272 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: thing I remember, though, is that it was like a 273 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: Monday morning. I came in and we were waiting hours 274 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: and almost a late afternoon, because I think you too, 275 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: character you were like in Vegas, right, and you had 276 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: a great weekend and you all missed the plane I 277 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: got Are you kidding? And they're all complaining and whining 278 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: because you guys weren't in town. Don't remember this at all? 279 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: Do you don't you remember that? Okay, something is vaguely 280 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: coming back that perhaps Shannon and I were in Cabo 281 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: San Lucas and missed our flight. Hey, it wasn't me 282 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: at all. Maybe this it wasn't this instance. But I 283 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: didn't even remember this story at all until you brought 284 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: that up. And I don't know if the timeline works out, 285 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: but it could. Was I eighteen at this point, Oh 286 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: my god, what year was this? Oh gosh? Graduate Okay, okay, 287 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: we were in Cabo San Lucas and we did we 288 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: missed our flight, and that was a call. I was like, 289 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: oh god, I was. I was terrified, and Shannon's like 290 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, like, don't worry. So 291 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: I remember her calling and being like, yeah, we're not. Yeah, yeah, 292 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty funny. But other than that, 293 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: it was you know, oh my god, yes it was. 294 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: It was a great little tuck towy studio. You know, 295 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: it was a cool little place. It really was. Um, 296 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: did you know they filmed porn right next door? No, 297 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: but I'm not surprised. I know every block and in 298 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: that area. You know, do you remember the fans reaction 299 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: to Gil Myers at the time, and like maybe throughout 300 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: the duration of your appearances, like did we like you 301 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: did we? I don't remember? She says we She means 302 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: the fans because she's me and my people. Yeah, I 303 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: mean I think they did. I think in the early 304 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: part it was controversial. But then I think that a 305 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: lot of the reactions I would get, or that I 306 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: could come be made aware of or or see what 307 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: was Gil was liked. Um was like and you know, uh, 308 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: if we were on location and at the school or whatever, 309 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: and there might be a lot of fans on the 310 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: day on an in screaming at the fence, you know, 311 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: but you know, I'd get a few shout outs, but 312 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: not like we get a lot of attention of the boys. 313 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: Oh and Gil, Yeah, we have a question obviously. I mean, 314 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: thirteen episodes is huge, Like fans always must have remembered you. 315 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: Um any of your students on your swim team, were 316 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: their moms like are they come to the shom meet 317 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: and they're like, are you kidding me? There's Gil Myers. 318 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: So so I don't know anybody else that's transitions from 319 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: acting professional. Never heard of that. Um, So it was 320 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: kind of like being outed. You know what I'd do 321 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: is I didn't. I was never comfortable promoting that anyways. 322 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: So I'm working my kids and all the people and 323 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: doing my thing and showing them I know what I'm doing. 324 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, it used to be kind of I think, 325 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: I think he's you know, and then someone would you know, Google, 326 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: and then it would be you know, all over and 327 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: so more and more and more and more until the 328 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: kids started to you know, the young girls and boys 329 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: all I've seen coaching, and I was like, well, I 330 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: didn't want them to look at a lot because a 331 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: lot of the movies, I play a lot of bad guys, 332 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, I play a lot of on desirable. So 333 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: I wasn't really looking for twelve and unders to go 334 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: and watch those, you know, not a good idea yeah, 335 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: and the moms. The moms are the moms were attentive, 336 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: but Ellen was cool. My life, God bless Ellen. Yeah, really, man, 337 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: you know how that is. It's just, oh my gosh. 338 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: So you're you're about to hang up your swim trunks. 339 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: See funny I said that. God, And what's next for you? 340 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: What's what's on the horizon. Well, that's what's different. You know. 341 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: This is the first time ever I've taken like four 342 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: months and uh, just hanging out with Ellen, seem do 343 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: my family stuff and and kind of reflecting on what 344 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: do I want to do because I've sent off the 345 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: remainder of my team. I've sent other other teams. They're 346 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: doing well. I'm in touch with the college kids. But 347 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm just not sure. You know, I've done photography, I've 348 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: had a studio of done other things. You're an empty nester, right, 349 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, and happened although once here and upstairs 350 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: it's home for weekend. Never empty empty but yeah, no, 351 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: it's never. But and that's cool. You know, it totally 352 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: changes things. It's nice. So I don't have a specific 353 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: I'm I'm talking to some of the people I know 354 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: and and and may take some more work and acting. Um, 355 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: or I may go in a different direction. That's the 356 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: coolest thing. You can do whatever you want to do. 357 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: You can if you're if you just chill about it. 358 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: We have to make a living and that that issue. 359 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: But it's just I mean the luxury of having this 360 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: time and my wife being cool enough to go, hey, 361 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, do what you gotta do. Um, because swimming 362 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: is is like acting in the sense that, um, it's 363 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: seven and you know, there's no weekends, there's no dinners 364 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: with family, there is that stuff. It worked because my 365 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: boys were with me, right so so we were together 366 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: all the time or if I'm gonna wait for the weekend, 367 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: they're there. And that gave a really neat parenting opportunity 368 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: to kind of, uh, you know, teach them to be 369 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: upstanding young guys. Good for you changing today, you know 370 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: how hard it is right with the kid. Yeah, yeah, Well, 371 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: all our fans, your fans are gonna hear and see this, 372 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: and they're gonna be like, we want you back. So yeah, 373 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: we might have to call you. As Jenny sees it, 374 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: fill along. Oh my gosh, I hope you don't mind 375 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: if you can join us, because I think She's gonna 376 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: definitely have more questions as we go. That's fun. That's fun. 377 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: I mean when I got the call, it is like Psyche, 378 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: you guys are doing this. It's it's a huge interest. 379 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: I know. Um, you know Charles is doing his over 380 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: there and your fan base. It's really unique and incredible 381 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: and timing wise. Look at the depth of time, you know, 382 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: And and we go back and influence whatever you see 383 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: in movies. Now you look back at television right now, 384 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: you can go back and back and back. Where does 385 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: it beginning? A lot of it begins here. Off that's happening. 386 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: That comes so easy to others. Now, what if you 387 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, what if you guys decided to make up 388 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: lind or hairline or head Instagram or that stuff. God, 389 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: we talked about that, right or or music or and 390 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: I think it's all different now and um, but you 391 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: guys get the credit for and we're groundbreaking at the time, 392 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: you know. Um, if we only knew then what we 393 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: know now. Yeah, but that's the that's the rub, right, 394 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: We never get that. So should we play our game 395 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: with him? Oh yes, Oh my gosh, will you play 396 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: a game with us? We torture all of our guests 397 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: and make them play this horrific game. It's called Kiss Mary, 398 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: kick to the Curb, Kiss May to the Yeah, yeah, 399 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: it's just perfect for creepy teacher. Oh my gosh, and 400 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: you don't go by the actors were not precious. We 401 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: have no hurt feelings. It's all based on the character. 402 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: Extra weird because it's gil Meyers. I know, so you know, 403 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: is it? Andrea? Kelly Brenda answer with the character Mrs 404 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: Walsh sense of the creepiness of the games? Whoever? Okay? 405 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: Favorite character? Well? Who would you kiss? Oh? Favorite? Care? Sorry? Sorry? Sorry, 406 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: oh right, I'm sorry? Should we play? Should we just 407 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: ask him those questions? Who would you kiss? Who did 408 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: I kiss? Or who would I kiss? You have to 409 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: kiss Mary or kissing the curb? Hold on one of 410 00:24:53,920 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: the characters on the show, So who'd you kissing? Okay, no, no, no, okay, listen, 411 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: listen Gilbert would you? You'll always be him? Know who 412 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: would you like? Out of the four like females on 413 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: the on the characters only Kelly Brenda, Andrea Donna, you 414 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: get to go back and do it different. You as 415 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: a viewer, you get to say, like, hey, I would 416 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: kiss I'd marry and I kicked. I told you it's 417 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible game. It's terrible game because you know, 418 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna lose, and somebody's gonna feel you know what, 419 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: that's life. They say, Oh my god, cep listen. It's 420 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: extra weird because it's the teachers saying now, that's so sorry, 421 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: sport rules. Next question, no, just oh my gosh, you 422 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: won't play with us. Which one would you have wanted 423 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: to marry if you were you and not just a viewer? 424 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: You were just yeah, you were just a guy watching 425 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: the show fires. You're just a fan of nine O 426 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: two O? Which character was the most like you're speed. Yeah, 427 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: everybody's got a different one. By the way, everybody picks 428 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: a different one. We've heard it all. You've heard it all. 429 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: You can pick Mrs Teasley. It's okay, good, I what 430 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: about Mrs Walsh. That's why I said, Mrs Walsh? All right. 431 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, girls, I'm not doing you know, I 432 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: just can't do that. It is a little weird for 433 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: gil Myers. I'm not okay, fine, can m later and 434 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: you'll tell us. I'm gonna slide into your d M 435 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: and ask and never tell this storyline is really fascinating because, 436 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: as always was so ahead of its time, and there's 437 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: a real twist to it that become We will have 438 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: to call Mark because it is quite fascinating and he 439 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: had to play it how he played it or it 440 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: would have seemed ridiculous. I can't wait to watch it. Well, 441 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: you girls are cool enough to ask me on. Thank 442 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: you Mark so much. We love talking to you and 443 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: catching up all right, you take care bye. Thank you 444 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: Mark so much for coming on. That was so much fun. 445 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: Gil Meyers in the house. Um, So that's it for 446 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: this episode. We'll see you next time. We love you.