WEBVTT - Potential Pirates Trade Targets 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:10.600 What's up, everybody? 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:13.360 Welcome back to another episode of Bucco Territory, presented to 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:14.960 you by the Foul Territory Network. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:17.799 Noah Hiles. Joining me as always are my co host. 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:21.240 Josh Harrison and Platinum Key aka Market's a mail bag Wednesday. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.279 Rather than answering some questions, Uh, where are you guys there? 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.360 I was scared. I thought I thought I was deserted. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:32.280 Rather than answering some questions on this mail bag Wednesday, 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:37.720 we asked you guys for some potential trade ideas. Truth 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:39.879 be told, they got a little out of. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:41.319 Whack, so we're just. 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:43.599 Yeah, yeah. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:45.120 It turns out being a GM is hard. 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.760 And I will just say this, it's very difficult to 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:54.760 propose a two way trade unless you really know what 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:59.400 that organization is looking for. And I mean it's easy 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.360 to do like a big, small trade, right Like, if 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.400 I were to be like, all right, say the Pirates 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.120 and the Red Sox want to make a trade, I 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:11.560 can go on Savant or Baseball Reference or fan Grafts 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:15.120 and see what the major league team in Boston needs. 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.639 But we don't know what they're looking to add depth 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.199 wise at the low levels of their minor league system. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.480 We don't know how they feel about some of the 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:28.800 guys they're going to be drafting. Yeah, right, Yeah, so 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.880 it's it's very difficult to just suggest. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:33.319 And you know, I. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.800 Mean most fans like you, you know, minor leaguers in 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.760 this system who people like me right about right, you know, 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:41.760 people in the top thirty, you know, people. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:42.800 Who were drafted recently. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:47.280 That's it, Like you don't necessarily know some of the 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.200 guys who will probably be dealt. And so rather than 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.400 doing that, and we're not trying to talk down on anyone, 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.080 it's just more just kind of got a little athodic 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.560 and maybe too convoluted. So rather than doing that, we're 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:02.279 each going to bring two potential trade targets to the table. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.919 And that actually might just be what we do every 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.440 mail bag Wednesday from here until the trade deadline. I 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.160 think maybe we can switch it up here and then, 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.120 but like I feel like this is what people want 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.560 to hear. So we're yeah, we're each gonn in two 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.880 personal targets that we have so six every show, and 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:22.920 these are just people to keep an eye on and 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.720 we'll try to speculate, you know, what they might cost, 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.720 not specifically with players in mind. 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.839 And then also how we think they could benefit the team. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.440 So we're gonna we're gonna start off with Mark, Mark 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.880 giving us his first two, and then we will go 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.160 from there. So, Mark, without further ado, your first Pirates 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:41.480 trade target. Who are you looking at? 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:41.720 All? 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.760 Right, I'm gonna start with an obvious one here, a 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.280 role as Chapman. Old friend. Pirates traded him to the 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.760 Rangers in twenty twenty three. He's been dealt a couple 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.240 times at the deadline in the past, both in twenty 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.840 sixteen and twenty twenty three, and he went to two 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:03.200 World Series winners. So he's thirty eight. The fastball velocity 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.560 is finally starting to show a little dip. It's only 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.680 averaging I think like ninety eight point seven right now 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.800 or something around there. So it's not exactly like the 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:16.919 same velo that he had when he was with the Pirates. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.280 But the results this year have been pretty good. Barring 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:24.040 his last couple outings, he had an ERA below one 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:25.320 for most of this year. I think it's up to 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:29.560 two point oh two now. But that's we know what 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.520 you're getting with a rolled as Chatman, and that you 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:34.440 can put him in the back of this bullpen and 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.760 feel a lot more confident. He obviously has had issues 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.640 in the past with command. Since he's joined the Red Sox, 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.040 he's looked a lot better at with his command and 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.760 you've seen the results follow So he's had some a 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.240 couple dominant seasons and I think that that would be 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.800 a perfect piece where the Pirates know what they're getting. 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:57.760 He's comfortable, he knows the city, he knows the stadium. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:59.920 I think the fan base would love to see him 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.720 welcome back with open arms. As far as cost goes, 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.600 he is thirty eight. He has a thirteen point seven 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.080 million dollar contract this year, with a thirteen million mutual 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:15.080 option next year. It seems like most sources expect him 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.560 to decline that and go to free agency again. So 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:23.200 this is probably a rental, but again that's a maybe rental. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:28.080 So yeah, the cost is, I don't know how much 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:29.440 you want to give up. It's going to be a 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.960 really competitive market for him, everyone for him. Yeah, I 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.160 think there's going to be a lot of teams calling 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.359 the Red Sox saying we'll offer you this, and then 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.480 I think the Red Sox would be like, well, we 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.680 have better offers. So I think the Pirates would really 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.080 have to pay up compared to what they could probably 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:50.400 get other relief options for, especially with that veteran presence. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.120 But you can't beat the playoff result. So if you're 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.320 in a playoff race, I think a role is Chatman 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:56.360 makes a ton of sense. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.360 My only thing against it is the fact that he's 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.000 a left team and I know that Chapman is a 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.240 guy that you don't have to just pitch against left handers. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.479 But it's like, if I'm gonna pay what I'm gonna 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.560 pay to get an a roll to Chapman, because one 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.520 that's the guy who doesn't get traded until the final 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.360 three days of the den, Like you hang on to 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.720 him and you drive that stock all the way up 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.239 until you can get somebody. And he's probably the highest 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.960 profile or reliever that will be traded this deadline. I 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:31.640 don't know if he's the best reliever that will get 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.800 traded in the deadline, but he's definitely the most known, 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.440 especially in this town because he played here and everything 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:37.960 and played against the Pirates for so long. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.440 But yeah, it's the left handed thing for me. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:45.039 It's his salaries is high, and I don't know how 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.640 much money the Pirates can take on the books, but 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.280 I mean overall, yeah, like, does an eroldist Chapman make 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:52.280 this bullpen better? 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:56.920 Absolutely? But can you find another guy who can provide 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.880 similar impact, maybe more in different ways, for a lesser 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.840 price tag. I think you can. So. I don't hate it. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:06.720 I don't. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:08.480 I don't love it. I like it. 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:12.120 I think it's great. But I wouldn't I wouldn't sell 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.520 the farm. I wouldn't probably go as far as other 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:21.719 teams would for roast Chapman deadline, Josh. 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.479 I mean I don't disagree with either take. 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:26.919 Obviously, Noah, as you said, price tag may be a 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.479 little too high for what you know you may really 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.440 want to consider. But Mark, on the other flip side, 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.880 talk the familiarity. Guys love going back to places that 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.960 they may have played, and then the other thing of 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:42.919 you know, just what this season is kind of transpired. 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:43.480 With the energy around it. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.840 You know, if you were to get a Chapman, that 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.400 would be telling you that obviously there are a lot 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.479 more serious than some people may take them or you know, 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.520 believe them to be at this time. But at the 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:58.599 same time, the hefty price tag, especially given what they've already. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:06:59.960 Spent at the beginning of the year. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.480 I just you know, with it being one year, it's 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.120 kind of gonna be hard to be giving up a 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.680 lot of what you know they may be asking for. 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:12.040 But it would definitely solve some problems in the back 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.800 end of that bullpen. But also the other thing, another 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:17.960 lefty that was kind of my thing, which you know, 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.960 you know it is it wouldn't be bad to have 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.240 him in Soto at the back end of the bullpen. 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.240 But at the same time, like you know, I was 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.040 thinking the same thing is you know, I think the 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.440 right handed side of the bullpen really needs some help. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.120 Oh yeah, I will say this real quick. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.160 If you have an all right handed starting rotation and 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:42.960 then right handed long relievers, like theoretically you could like 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:47.000 you take like a Jones Majinsky piggyback game. If those 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.720 guys can cover you seven, then you have Soto and Chapman. 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:52.840 That's pretty good right there. 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.080 It's just you know, I would like I would like 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.400 a high leverage right hander that I could depend on 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.400 if possible. Yeah, you know, if you don't have one 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.280 of those right now? Yeah, So all right, Mark, who's 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:04.880 your second guy? 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.280 All right, I'm going to go with another name that's 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.320 been linked to the Pirates, because I want to hear 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:13.840 your guys' thoughts on this. Ryan Jeffers a catcher currently 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:17.480 for the Twins, right handed bet. He's thirty two years 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:23.640 or sorry, twenty nine years old, playing really well. He's 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:29.200 got a nine nine ops this year. Just crazy offensive 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:33.559 production at the plate. Not exactly known for his defense. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.840 He's not really going to be throwing guys out on 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.640 the base. Pass a lot. His blocks above average, are 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.640 pretty average, decent at framing. I mean, it's not anything 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.520 that you're like, this is concerning. He can't stay behind 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.400 the plate, so he's absolutely serviceable behind the plate. Provides 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.760 a righty bet who can get on base, provide a 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.319 little bit of power. I think he makes a ton 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.280 of sense. Not going to be too expensive. He's got 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.840 one year, this is his final year of his contract. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:09.320 Seven million dollars, So affordable. Is it seven million dollars remaining? 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:10.800 And yeah, double check that, but. 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.480 No, it'll probably just be seven million. They don't show 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.440 what's remaining, Okay, yeah. 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:20.000 Yeah, yeah, So I think he is affordable both for 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.200 the Pirates like payroll in as far as what they 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.400 could pay to get him. He doesn't exactly have the 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.200 name recognition of some of other catchers that might be 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.720 on the market. So yeah, I think Ryan Jeffers would 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.120 make a ton of sense for the Pittsburgh Pirates, improving 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.199 what we were just saying in our episode on Monday 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:43.000 that no one mentioned. If you're the Pirates and you're 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.680 managing this team, I think catcher is a major, major 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.280 need to get a starting catcher, and Ryan Jeffers could 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.200 absolutely be your starting catcher for this team. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.280 I don't dislike it from a standpoint. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:00.720 I think obviously we've talked about the catcher you know situation, 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.120 you know, surrounding the Pirates. Obviously Joey just got traded, 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:10.080 Henry hasn't really hit, and obviously Indies up. But catcher 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.640 is a position that you're going to be looking to upgrade, 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.080 especially if you're, you know, trying to make a push. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.400 And that's no not to Indy, that's no not to 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.600 you know, Henry and you know the other guys are there, 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.520 but you know, you want to be able to somewhat 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.520 solidify the catcher spot and somebody that's gonna give you 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.440 a little bit offensive production, because honestly, what they have 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.840 has not really been anything, and if you've really been serious, 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.360 I think it's too much to put on Indy, you know, 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:38.640 to really take that over. And at the same time, 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.280 Ryan's been around a little bit, so I don't disagree 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.760 with especially knowing that you know, probably the catcher, you know, 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.400 trademarket is probably gonna be one of the toughest ones 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:51.720 to probably find, you know, so that that's not a 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:56.560 name that I'm opposed to, because you know, he can provide, 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.520 you know, hopefully a little bit more offense than what 0:10:58.559 --> 0:10:59.160 they've been getting. 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:00.480 I don't think that's hard do though. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.480 Yeah, I'm my only reservation on it would just be 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.400 like if you're gonna if that's the move you're gonna make, 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.040 make it now, because the later, the later you wait 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.679 to bring in a catcher like this guy's got to 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.640 learn how to catch every pitcher on the team because 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.320 you're not bringing in Ryan Jeffers to be Andy Rodriguez's backup, 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:23.720 or at least you shouldn't be right. So and this 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.800 isn't necessarily a team where I think it would make 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:29.320 sense for him to be dhing while he gets familiar. 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.800 Like if you're bringing him in, you're bringing him in 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.160 to play catcher. And I'm fine with there being a 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.480 little bit of a grace period where it's like, all right, like, 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:42.160 let the guys who are familiar with Paul and Bubba 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.560 or whoever else you know, start them off basically assign 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.240 him one or two guys, and it's just like, hey, 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:53.280 you get to know Mitch Keller and Braxton Ashcraft. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:54.840 Those are your two starts for now. 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:58.240 But the earlier you bring him in, the earlier, the 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:02.080 more time he gets to familiar himself with this whole staff. 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.080 And you know, when you get to September and if 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.560 you're still in the Pennant hunt, you can play him 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.760 with Paul schemes, you can play him with the other guys. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:11.839 So that would be my thing, and I think that 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.760 that applies to any catcher one that you're going out 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.920 there and getting. If you're getting catcher depth just because 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:21.120 you think Henry Davis is unplayable, then I think it's 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.520 maybe you can wait a little bit longer. But again, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:27.160 you don't see a lot of starting catchers traded mid season, 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.640 and that's why, because it's just very very very difficult 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:32.760 to learn a whole new staff mid season. 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.839 Makes sense, all right, we're gonna take a quick break. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:39.439 When we come back more trade talk. 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.719 Josh is gonna give us his two targets here on 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:43.080 Bucko Territory. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:44.840 Crats. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:50.439 Mint Mobile plans still just fifteen bucks a month, and. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.040 You're getting a ton from that fifteen dollars. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.480 That's right, And we've talked about this for a while. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.840 It hasn't changed. It's still all there for you. 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First 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.000 things for I'm gonna start with the area that I 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.480 think we've all agreed that needs help is relief pitching. 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:06.920 And named that I'm gonna throw out there is a 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.520 name that some people may know, some may not actually 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.720 play with him in Washington, Kyle Finnegan. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:15.520 A little bit of a late bloomer. Found out about 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:16.040 Kyle in the. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.560 Twenty twenty season in COVID faced him in some live 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.880 vps and played behind him watching him, and then saw 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:23.920 that he signed a two year deal I believe a 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.720 two year deal just recently with the Tigers, so price 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.600 tag got it. I mean, obviously they'd have to work 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.080 something out with that because I think it was a 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.680 two year nineteen guaranteed with a. 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.240 Mutual option I believe for twenty eight. 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:37.760 But if you look at his numbers for this year, 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.640 I think he's thrown in like thirty something games as 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:45.480 like a e RI a somewhere around two. And he's 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.760 a guy that doesn't really get too much talked about. Obviously, 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.600 you know, Detroit, you got some star power. You know, 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.360 you got scoop of there. Kenley Jansen is a name 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.000 who is obviously on his way up the you know 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.200 all time saves leader lists. And here's Kyle who I 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.840 played with. Just know, he's always been like a steady 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:02.800 arm even when he. 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.280 Was with Washington. I think his last year, I think 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:06.240 he might have been a closer. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.200 And I think that's kind of you know, when people 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.560 kind of Okay, this guy's you know, kind of you know, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:13.160 kind of flown. 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:13.640 Under the radar. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.240 And obviously he just signed a contract, so maybe a 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.880 little harder, but you know, relief pictures for the rights, 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.520 for the right price and for a struggling bullpen. This 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:22.920 is a guy that you could have for you know, 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.040 for a year, possibly two. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:26.239 He's interesting. 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.280 I mean, are you looking at his stack cast? 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:29.680 Yeah? 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.760 Basketball split, Yeah, it's a fastball that rides. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.680 I faced him in Live VP and I remember taking 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.360 one like I thought that was gonna be at the 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:40.800 bottom of his zone and it was at my knees. 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.400 You know, So like he's got a fastball that rides 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.440 he plays the split off of it. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.040 Looks like it's a lot to contact a ton. 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:49.000 Yeah. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:49.560 Yeah. 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.880 Uh, he's fifth percentile k rate and second percent title 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.960 walk rate. Yeah, so his k rate's fourteen point six 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.920 and his walk rate's fifteen point nine. So yeah, he's 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.760 not striking anyone out. But two point oh two you 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.840 are a tells you a lot. 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.400 And I would say, I mean they're they like guys 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.240 with good extension, and seems like he gets good extension. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:13.520 Yeah, I don't hate it. 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.520 I mean, depending on the price tag, especially if it 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:19.360 comes with a little extra control, yeah, I don't mind 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:23.000 that addition. I will say he kind of strikes me 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.760 as a buyer beware. I mean has expected era's four 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:30.040 point five to two, expecting bad expected batting averages two 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:30.520 thirty eight. 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.320 So it might might seem like he's kind of getting 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.480 a little lucky right now. But I mean, hey, that's 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:40.640 part of baseball too. So uh. The walks concerned me 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.480 a little bit though, just with that, just because it's 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.040 like we've got enough yet already here. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.360 Yeah, Yeah, they have some Like I think you need 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.800 someone who is just betting the game a little bit 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.640 and Kyle Finnigan has been in the game a little bit, 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.040 so Yeah, I don't know, I don't I don't hate 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.800 that at all, Josh. I mean, he's a former All Star, 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:07.639 he's pitched in playoff baseball. Yeah, I'm all for it 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.680 if the price is right, Mark anything, Dad. 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.280 No, I think you guys covered that perfectly. I'm I 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.200 can't wait to hear Josh's next pick here. 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.159 All right, Hey, I got you all to prove my 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:23.160 first pick might be on something. All right, second pick 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.639 is gonna be another area of need similar to marks 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.879 in a slim market catcher. Now, this one's gonna have 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.399 a little halftier price tag with Adlie Rutchman from Baltimore, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:36.399 which one of the reasons I said is catching is 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.840 a position right now that is kind of up in 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:42.840 the air. There's an uncertainty about it. And Adlee is 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:47.679 a switch hitter who linkedins the lineup, who can also DH. 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.000 But also it takes pressure off of you know, having 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.240 to rely on it and you know, Indy or Henry. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.000 But as I said, I also understand that it is 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.760 you know, a little half your price tag. But No 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.600 made the comments of you know, some execs saying if 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.119 they were the Pirates next next year, the first thing 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:06.879 they'd be doing is trying to lock down a catcher 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.159 with the uncertainty of what may be happening in the 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.320 off season. This was something that I just kind of said, 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.800 maybe this is something that they try to get creative, 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:17.240 just to say, maybe we don't want to go in 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.680 the free agency trying to figure out what we're gonna 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:23.840 do with a catcher. So obviously catching is not that 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.040 many to choose from. It was just a name that 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.879 kind of intrigued me that I said, obviously a little 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.280 far fetched, but you know, with the looming CBA, with 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.480 you know, the uncertainty of it, that's something that I 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.239 could see happen. I wouldn't say could see happening, but 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.000 he's a guy that I would put on my list 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.439 because you know, switch it and catcher that can you know, 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.840 give you some link that can you know handle staff, 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:46.600 that's been an All Star. 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.560 That's something that it's kind of hard to pass up. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.119 Yeah, I mean, I believe it was the guy I 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:56.000 wanted them to go after this offseason. The only thing 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:57.959 that's tough is like what you mentioned, Josh, It's like 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.199 a guy would yeah, it's it's his last year of art. 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.239 But it's like, all right, well, if we knew there 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.639 was gonna be baseball next year, this is a no brainer. 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:08.920 And I'd be willing to give up. 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:12.280 A little something for him, probably something within my top 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:16.680 ten honestly, Uh, because if he plays well and likes 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.880 it here, like maybe just keep him, right. 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.160 But yeah, like if you if you. 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.119 Give up a good prospect to get him, which is 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.640 going to be required, and there's no baseball next year, 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:28.440 and you just kind of. 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:29.800 Lose it, that that would suck. 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.320 And also it's it's the mid Like we said already, 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.080 it's the mid season catcher trade. And I mean if 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:39.080 you're trading Adley Rushman for Adley Rushman, Adley Rushman's a 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:42.720 guy who you're not only playing at catcher, you're dhing 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:47.280 him on his off days probably so and he's a 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.640 guy that I wouldn't be upset to see that with. 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:52.560 So yeah, I I I like it. 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:59.000 It's just yeah, yeah, it's take some balls to go 0:19:59.119 --> 0:19:59.960 get him, I think. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.680