Speaker 1: I am all in. Let's I Am all in with
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. All right, everybody,
Speaker 1: I am Scott Patterson and this is the I Am
Speaker 1: all In podcast our Heart Radio one to Leven Productions. Boy,
Speaker 1: it's been a while. I haven't seen you guys in
Speaker 1: a little bit, and it's good to see everybody. Where's
Speaker 1: Where's Riley? Where's Where's Riley? She's a little sick, but
Speaker 1: she's kind of okay. All right. She has like a
Speaker 1: very sexy voice. She always does right. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the mail we get. Those are the emails we get.
Speaker 1: It's Riley available. I just wanted to talk to me.
Speaker 1: She's like a voiceover star. It's like becoming a superstar.
Speaker 1: Danielle knowledge, her knowledge of pop culture, it's unbelievable. Danielle,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? I'm and just Pete good. Good
Speaker 1: to see Amy Sugarman. There she is for this episode.
Speaker 1: It was a great episode. And it's and you talked
Speaker 1: to him just a couple of days ago. But it's
Speaker 1: the farewell of tritic. It's it's just uh, it's just
Speaker 1: an amazing episode. I don't think I've laughed at you know,
Speaker 1: the last two have been laugh riots. It's just like
Speaker 1: one liner after one liner after one. You know. I
Speaker 1: started writing them all down and then I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: put your pencil down. I want to enjoy the episode.
Speaker 1: That is so true. I have been watching them twice
Speaker 1: because when I take my notes, I missed that. So
Speaker 1: then I do it against I can really like enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Now we know why people rewatch the episodes because it's
Speaker 1: they're so packed with one liners and great funny bits
Speaker 1: and you know, uh, I don't know. It's just and
Speaker 1: I have an amazing surprise. Actually it's an amazing surprise.
Speaker 1: We have no idea what. So we're getting into wardrobe
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's like, you know, we're trying. You know,
Speaker 1: we're talking to Brenda may Ben. We're discussing wardrobe, and
Speaker 1: it's like kind of a thing. Now right on the show,
Speaker 1: guess what. Guess what I found in the archives in
Speaker 1: the museum, in the library. Remember the Luke shirt in
Speaker 1: the diner, the brown Luke shirt in the dinner way.
Speaker 1: There it is. That's it. Oh my god, that's it.
Speaker 1: Now technically, did you steal that? No, no, no, it's
Speaker 1: it's just borrowing. I have not taken possession. I haven't
Speaker 1: taken possession. I know it's been what was that two
Speaker 1: thousand and two, so it's almost its nineteen years and
Speaker 1: I've been borrowing it. I have a special plan. Look
Speaker 1: at that there it is gonna say. Yes, I was
Speaker 1: going to say, that's the real one, like the real
Speaker 1: real one. That is the shirt. It was in the
Speaker 1: garage every time when I when I pulled an to
Speaker 1: the garage, I see it. It's like, you know, because
Speaker 1: we're not fully unpacked yet, so there's like there's and
Speaker 1: there's like a bunch of Gilmore stuff in boxing. That's
Speaker 1: a good one to a great shirt. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: if you wear that down the street and like fans
Speaker 1: are just gonna go, oh my god, that dude. And
Speaker 1: now I couldn't find the gray long sleeve thermal that
Speaker 1: goes underneath it, but I did find a blue one,
Speaker 1: and that is show specific. Also, Yes, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: it's the holidays. I just want to put smiles on faces. Wait,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Actually, that is awesome to hang on because
Speaker 1: I think Henry Winkler just sold the Fawns jacket for
Speaker 1: like a million dollars. I wonder how much that I
Speaker 1: think it would be the hat that would sell right yea,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it fits kind of fits. It's still
Speaker 1: kind of snug too, like like like the one on
Speaker 1: the show. It looks great. You like you like dating
Speaker 1: those young, casual young guys. I think those boy scouts
Speaker 1: should move over. I mean you need to have a
Speaker 1: crossbar so wrap the shirt. That's the shirt. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's actually very cool. I have a
Speaker 1: lot of wardrobe. I have so much wardrobe. I have
Speaker 1: the pants too, of all kind of stuff. Now when
Speaker 1: I try to fit into those pants that for those
Speaker 1: the original pants, oh that's that's not gonna happen. The
Speaker 1: original pants. They're not going on. It's like they get
Speaker 1: about halfway up and it's like, you know, I will
Speaker 1: vouch that the shirt fits perfectly. So for anyone wondering
Speaker 1: twenty years later the shirt fit, don't worry. We will
Speaker 1: post this on Instagram and you guys can see for yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Run Away what does it? Run Away little Boy?
Speaker 1: It is run Away a Little Boy episode nine anyway,
Speaker 1: So no, no, this was just such a fun episode.
Speaker 1: It was so much fun and it was so hilarious.
Speaker 1: And I too did not notice how young that guy
Speaker 1: was that was flirting with Laura because she looks young,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's a it's a little you know.
Speaker 1: They made her look a little young. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: she was a little older than him, but not too obviously.
Speaker 1: But they put she had pigtails almost throughout the entire episode,
Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting because it did make her
Speaker 1: look young. But then they changed her hair in the
Speaker 1: diner when they wanted to show the contrast. And and
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, and that's so so anyway, let's
Speaker 1: let's set up the uh and Daniel, I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna do the run? Are you gonna do the uh?
Speaker 1: The what do you? What? Are we calling this thesis ahead.
Speaker 1: I will fill in for Riley So season two, episode nine,
Speaker 1: Runaway Little Boy, air date November one. The synopsis is
Speaker 1: when Rory and Tristan are cast as Romeo and Juliet
Speaker 1: in a school perform, A jealous Deine insist on attending
Speaker 1: every rehearsal, forcing Rory to beg Tristan not to tell
Speaker 1: Dean about the time they shared a kiss, while Lorela
Speaker 1: has to put up with Luke's teasing after after she
Speaker 1: dates a much a younger guy. I tell you, I
Speaker 1: think the the W beer the c W at the
Speaker 1: time saw how well the interactions and the drama and
Speaker 1: the comedy and all the passions that were going on
Speaker 1: in Gilmore with the younger with the Chilton crowd, and
Speaker 1: they were like, let's make a young person. I mean
Speaker 1: it was a young you know, it was for younger.
Speaker 1: Excuse younger anyway. But so then Chad stars in One
Speaker 1: Tree Hill, right, and it becomes a ratings juggernaut over
Speaker 1: there along with us. But I think I think they
Speaker 1: I think they were even bigger than we were. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean I know maybe no, no, actually no, no,
Speaker 1: now that I remember the numbers that we used to get,
Speaker 1: I think we were number one and they were number two.
Speaker 1: But at times they would overtake us when we were
Speaker 1: weakening in the numbers and certain sections of certain seasons,
Speaker 1: and that cast just became so like they were like
Speaker 1: that young Hollywood right exactly, so um easier to market
Speaker 1: and they had more energy to go out and market
Speaker 1: themselves and publish themselves or as the old folks were
Speaker 1: just sort of like nah anyway, Um, A lot of
Speaker 1: fun watching this episode, So let's get into it. Well,
Speaker 1: so my first question for you is what did you
Speaker 1: think of Lorelai going on the date with the young guy?
Speaker 1: And I will admit he did look older when he
Speaker 1: had his blazer on with the arm patches at school
Speaker 1: and sort of the way Luke reacted then Suki saying
Speaker 1: to Lorelai, how do you not know he likes you
Speaker 1: and you're dating everybody but him? So, like just that
Speaker 1: whole arc throughout the episode, what did you think? I
Speaker 1: thought that that wasn't particularly justified because it's really not
Speaker 1: on her. I mean she she hasn't really turned me down,
Speaker 1: has she? No? I haven't really, I haven't really asked her.
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of have, but We've been interrupted
Speaker 1: a bunch of times, right, but I've never followed through
Speaker 1: it followed through. So it's not fair to her because
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm the guy and like step up
Speaker 1: and you want a date or dat. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: start stop worrying about all the other. Yeah, the brief
Speaker 1: moments where you almost did it, she was definitely gonna
Speaker 1: say yeah, she was gonna say yes. She would have
Speaker 1: said yes. But she's doing that because I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have the stones to step up
Speaker 1: and and close the deal for God's sake, or you're
Speaker 1: both just very concerned about ruining the French. Come on,
Speaker 1: you know that's that's just an excuse that people use
Speaker 1: because they don't have them. Got to get some stones,
Speaker 1: Like if you if you really so, do you blame Luke,
Speaker 1: like you think that the reason it's taking so long
Speaker 1: is because Luke just won't do it well. It's also
Speaker 1: the circumstances everything we talked about. But yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: step up and it's hard. You know, it's hard to
Speaker 1: write that. You know, it's hard to write that for
Speaker 1: four seasons to milk, milk, milk, so the so, the audience,
Speaker 1: it's just like it's driving people crazy, but it's it
Speaker 1: has to be done. It worked beautifully. It's important that
Speaker 1: even though the date was like a total flop, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? She says something like we had
Speaker 1: finished talking about everything by the salad, it did change
Speaker 1: her the way she felt it. Suddenly she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm i date, Like, I'm almost like I'm back alive again.
Speaker 1: I'm ok. There she is Riley, Hello, everyone, Oh, listen
Speaker 1: to the voice. The sultry voice. Oh no, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: is that you? I can go very It's like, what's
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in a Marlena Datrich film here?
Speaker 1: What's going on when you had a little bit of
Speaker 1: a cold? Well, if anyone needs me to read a story,
Speaker 1: can be of service. Oh my god. So what did
Speaker 1: you think about the guy that she went on the
Speaker 1: date with? He Brace Johnson. He's sort of done a
Speaker 1: lot of acting I've seen here. Was great, He's cute.
Speaker 1: He was absolutely perfect for that part. He was so
Speaker 1: likable and such a winning personality and just a terrific actor.
Speaker 1: And he just had the perfect look. He had just
Speaker 1: he had you know, it was like he was Maxi
Speaker 1: Medina's cousin, distant cousin or something. I mean, he just
Speaker 1: he looked like he was an educated kid and right
Speaker 1: up her alley that she was going to get along with.
Speaker 1: And even though he's she was so smooth too, the
Speaker 1: way he asked her out and then the way she
Speaker 1: sort of says no, and he was so chill about it.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, like, you know, if your schedule opens up,
Speaker 1: like just giving Like he was just so smooth. He
Speaker 1: wasn't bothered by her mini rejection and I'm busy because
Speaker 1: that's okay. It just gives may never give me a call,
Speaker 1: you know. But the thing is is that you noticed
Speaker 1: in that scene they must have sat down before in
Speaker 1: prior meetings at their business class, because when they sat
Speaker 1: down into those into that table, they there was no hesitation.
Speaker 1: It was like they were already on a date and
Speaker 1: they knew that they were going to sit down with
Speaker 1: each other. Instead of like him going like you mind
Speaker 1: if I said or whatever, or her, it's just like
Speaker 1: they just immediately sat down, so it was like they
Speaker 1: were together before they were together. That's kind of the
Speaker 1: cool thing about the show is that the writers, whoever assumed, like, hey,
Speaker 1: the audience will get it, the audience will understand by
Speaker 1: the way these two are interacting that they know each
Speaker 1: other so we don't have to spell it out for
Speaker 1: them like which I kind of appreciate it. It moves
Speaker 1: things faster and it and it was the kind of
Speaker 1: banter that she craves and she needs and she has
Speaker 1: in her life. So of course she was going to
Speaker 1: say yes, um, But I have to tell you, I
Speaker 1: think the funniest scene in the entire and I don't
Speaker 1: mean to downgrade the younger actors who were terrific, and
Speaker 1: it was a terrifically entertaining episode to watch and very funny.
Speaker 1: And but that diner scene when he came in with
Speaker 1: the baseball cap with his parents, I mean I blurred,
Speaker 1: I laughed out loud so many times. And I'll give
Speaker 1: you my favorite line right now. I don't even have
Speaker 1: to wait. When I when I looked at Laura, I go,
Speaker 1: who are these people? Because the father commissary he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to hear about Rachel and looks just
Speaker 1: looking at him like, who are these people? Sid? Sid says, darn,
Speaker 1: shame about that, Rachel? Who are these people? Oh? It
Speaker 1: was just beautiful. The best is Rory says, I've always
Speaker 1: wanted a little b right right right right right. And
Speaker 1: you know what her Rory's reactions her, you know her
Speaker 1: reactions to discovering who this person was. It was classic.
Speaker 1: Did you see her face? Because I watched her. I
Speaker 1: rewounded and I watched her. It was just like so
Speaker 1: spot on. She was just like curious and like you
Speaker 1: know those those I those big eyes just beaming in
Speaker 1: her head, like what is going on here? Who is
Speaker 1: this person? And then when she realized that was the
Speaker 1: guy on the date, she just oh that she should
Speaker 1: have gotten an award just for reacting. You know, totally.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you that scene because look older
Speaker 1: at school he did in the blazer and the corduroy
Speaker 1: blazer and the whole thing. And then boy he looked
Speaker 1: like a teenager when he came in there, and then
Speaker 1: everyone like he's so young. Kirk sent out pictures. Maybe
Speaker 1: you can hand out baseball cards with your phone number.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they were having a field day on
Speaker 1: her man. It was beautiful. It was so good. I
Speaker 1: love that scene so much. H So, I have a
Speaker 1: question that's like kind of a left turn, which I apologiz.
Speaker 1: Is where this shirt comes from? Riley. This is the
Speaker 1: let's get Riley at the speed Hey, smokey voice, smoky smokey.
Speaker 1: This is the shirt, the actual shirt from the diner scene.
Speaker 1: No way, that's so cool and without the oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: he just kept it, like did you kept it? Why?
Speaker 1: That's so cool. That's really cool though, right yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: all right, so Amy, what's the question? What were you gonna? So?
Speaker 1: My question is when Rory is super stressed, about Tristan
Speaker 1: being the scene partner and coming to stars Hollow, and
Speaker 1: she wants to tell she wants to tell Dean like
Speaker 1: I kiss this guy. This is what happened. Was she
Speaker 1: right in wanting to tell him, or was Laurel I
Speaker 1: right and telling her no, don't tell it. I think
Speaker 1: they're both right. Yeah, they're both right. I mean it's
Speaker 1: one of those situations where you know, that's I think.
Speaker 1: I think these are the situations that were tailor made
Speaker 1: for omission or little white lies, or you know, just
Speaker 1: to spare that guy just knowing. I mean, you know
Speaker 1: he's gonna pop. I mean, look how I mean, Dean's
Speaker 1: really tightly wrapped. He is a very possessive guy. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a real type, a dominant kind of a guy.
Speaker 1: And you know he's not going to be He obviously
Speaker 1: can't handle this very well. He just wants to beat
Speaker 1: Tristan's asked. Yeah, yeah, And Tristan's such a jerk to
Speaker 1: him in the in doses market, it's it's he, you know,
Speaker 1: he's everything I wish Paris would be, because at least
Speaker 1: you can watch Chad Michael Murray be smug and horrible
Speaker 1: and poisonous and diabolical and two faced and backstabbing, and
Speaker 1: the whole thing he just does. It was he's such
Speaker 1: a smooth criminal. It's just it's just you and I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of with him. And you know, at the
Speaker 1: end of this, when he was like, Hey, I can't
Speaker 1: do this, I'm going off to military school. I broke
Speaker 1: into you know, will Willard's fathers say for whoever the
Speaker 1: kid was, and his dad was standing there, you know,
Speaker 1: waiting for him. I felt for the guy. I really
Speaker 1: felt for the guy. And I don't know if I'd
Speaker 1: feel that way for Paris that she was being hauled
Speaker 1: off to the nuthouse, you know. But yeah, and then
Speaker 1: you felt that Rory felt for him and that they
Speaker 1: did have a connection, no question about it. Even when
Speaker 1: Rory tries to say to him, stop hanging around those guys.
Speaker 1: You're smarter than those guys, You're better than those you know,
Speaker 1: kind of in the middle of the episode because you
Speaker 1: because so go ahead, sorry, no, sorry about that. So,
Speaker 1: and you see Dean kind of looking at them, going,
Speaker 1: h think, do you knows that he's in over his
Speaker 1: head with Rory anyway, He's beginning to understand how lucky
Speaker 1: he is and how special she is, or he already
Speaker 1: understands that. And it's gonna be real easy for somebody
Speaker 1: at that school who's you know, who's got the pedigree
Speaker 1: to just take maybe not take her away, but some
Speaker 1: her eyes will be opened up. And Tristan has that potential,
Speaker 1: and she sees the potential in triesting because you know,
Speaker 1: he's easy on the eyes, he's ut all drink out water.
Speaker 1: He comes from a great family, the whole you know,
Speaker 1: he's the whole package. So and she's wise enough and
Speaker 1: mature enough to know at her age, at her tender
Speaker 1: age of sixteen, that that Tristan's only sixteen or seventeen. Right,
Speaker 1: he's sixteen years old. He's going to be a different person.
Speaker 1: It's twenty. He's not going to be this way. He
Speaker 1: is the good in him despite his antics. What did
Speaker 1: you think that he called her Mary? It broke my
Speaker 1: heart because it was so um gosh, what do they
Speaker 1: call that? Um? It was? It was a double entente?
Speaker 1: What was it really was? Because you know, he recognized
Speaker 1: the almost the tragic. It was like him commenting on
Speaker 1: himself as a jackass to her earlier. It was filled
Speaker 1: with regret, and it was beautifully communicated and beautifully acted.
Speaker 1: And that's the moment I think that Rory liked him
Speaker 1: the most because he was able to recognize that in
Speaker 1: that way, and that's how smart he is. Yes, he
Speaker 1: says I would kiss you, and then he says, take
Speaker 1: care of yourself marriage, and it's like it's basically he
Speaker 1: was saying, Rory, I love you, and I'm too screwed
Speaker 1: up and too much of a jerk right now to
Speaker 1: come out and say it. But he's in love with her,
Speaker 1: and I think she's a little bit in love with
Speaker 1: him too. She smart, did you guys see? Yes, that's
Speaker 1: that's chemistry right there. They have that real chemistry. And boys,
Speaker 1: he's such a likable guy and what a what a
Speaker 1: great actor. He really embraced that part, didn't he. And
Speaker 1: he took a lot of chances with that part to
Speaker 1: be so unlikable and he's still likable. Yes, that's the
Speaker 1: mark of a great actor. That's the mark of a
Speaker 1: really solid actor, you know, you know, And I do
Speaker 1: think hindsight is it's like we see, we know that
Speaker 1: he's leaving Chad Michael Murray, which we talked about with
Speaker 1: him to go on. I think he did Dawson's Creek
Speaker 1: and then he's the star of One Tree Hill. So
Speaker 1: it's like we sort of have that benefit of knowing
Speaker 1: why this actor is leaving. Oh sure, yeah, so you
Speaker 1: know a little behind the scenes knowledge, and heck, why
Speaker 1: didn't I do this? These young guys were really smart.
Speaker 1: They only had one or two year deals. They didn't
Speaker 1: want six year deals because the six year deal is
Speaker 1: what you're going for, right, that's the full boat. That's like,
Speaker 1: you got a six year deal, great, and that's what
Speaker 1: we were going for. They offered me two shows and
Speaker 1: then four year you know. And then I sort of
Speaker 1: see these guys like the Chads and the Jared's and
Speaker 1: the Milos, they're doing one year deals at a time
Speaker 1: because they want to stay flexible because they're young and
Speaker 1: everybody wants them, or they might do another year on
Speaker 1: that deal without you know, an option year. This kind
Speaker 1: of thing. I'm running around celebrating, Hey, I got a
Speaker 1: six year deal. I'm completely locked in. But I was
Speaker 1: like forty one, right, I'm not. I'm not young guy, right,
Speaker 1: But but they were very smart. How those guys they
Speaker 1: played that and they were not locked in and it
Speaker 1: was a perfect situation for the network because they could
Speaker 1: save money and it was better for their bottom line
Speaker 1: and their financials and the whole thing. And um, hey,
Speaker 1: we got this guy fairly cheap, and it's only we're
Speaker 1: only committed one year, but we're taking that risk. The
Speaker 1: next year it comes back, is going to be desired
Speaker 1: by every major network for every major pilot. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to pay him a boatload to stay here. He
Speaker 1: probably won't stay anyway, So yeah, yeah, you know, speaking
Speaker 1: of Milow, I think it's very because I don't remember
Speaker 1: it this way. But I'm happy they really are only
Speaker 1: giving us glimpses of Jess. And you know, we all know,
Speaker 1: well some of us know what's coming with Jess, but
Speaker 1: they aren't. And I've talked about this before. They aren't
Speaker 1: just like bombarding us with him right out the gate.
Speaker 1: It's like we're seeing him just little bits. He's not
Speaker 1: even in this episode. We're seeing him just little bits
Speaker 1: here and there as they develop that. But he's too
Speaker 1: dark a character to have on on a regular basis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's too powerful. He's too good, he's too easy
Speaker 1: on the eyes, he's the storyline is too powerful. It
Speaker 1: can overwhelm the series. It can become it can become
Speaker 1: his show. So they really have to be careful with that. Well,
Speaker 1: that's such a great point because his antics, like the
Speaker 1: chalk outline of the body in front of the market.
Speaker 1: You couldn't have that every episode because you'd start to
Speaker 1: eye roll it. It only works at such a great point.
Speaker 1: I've never I didn't think about it that way. No,
Speaker 1: but they would. I think people fans would really like it,
Speaker 1: but it would go away from Gilmore Girls and it
Speaker 1: would become the Milo Show, for the Milo Roary Show.
Speaker 1: Then then it would be a different show. So they
Speaker 1: have to really be carefully balance all these storylines. You know, now,
Speaker 1: I know I should take a break, But when we
Speaker 1: come back, i'd love your thoughts on Paris. Oh that's
Speaker 1: gonna take about five seconds, maybe three. Anyway, let's take
Speaker 1: a break, and when we come back, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: my very elongated thoughts, thorough thoughts on Paris. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll see it a bit. All right, we're back, everybody,
Speaker 1: and let's discuss this delightful cup of wonderful, this big
Speaker 1: bowl of wonderful that is Paris. Geller, Okay, what did
Speaker 1: you think of her in this episode? Wow? Just just
Speaker 1: grading and unnecessary early, aggressive and nasty to Rory. I
Speaker 1: mean it's so over the top bananas that, you know,
Speaker 1: when she was talking with Henry, when she came up
Speaker 1: in it very rudely interrupted Henry and and Rory. And
Speaker 1: you know, Rory is so above it at this point,
Speaker 1: she just like lets her talk, you know, she'll let
Speaker 1: her do her thing, um because scary. It's like, it's
Speaker 1: like what else do you do in the face of it,
Speaker 1: you know, total insanity. Um, you just let it sort
Speaker 1: of peter out and it goes away and then you're like, okay, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean right off the bat, it's like, Jesus, she's back.
Speaker 1: I didn't miss her, you know, but here she here,
Speaker 1: she is back. She did. And I will give her this.
Speaker 1: This character really drives that storyline. So there's so much
Speaker 1: forward momentum with it, and there's so much expectation um
Speaker 1: and anticipe patient that it is compelling. So I will
Speaker 1: give her that. I will give her interpretation of that
Speaker 1: character a lot of credit for being you know, solidly
Speaker 1: engaging that that is for sure. I mean, she's not
Speaker 1: backing off the throttle. At all. And she is a
Speaker 1: girl that you would have to say is determined. Nothing
Speaker 1: is going to stop her from getting into Harvard and
Speaker 1: except even becoming Romeo. Right, she's the only one that
Speaker 1: that is going to prevent herself from going to Harvard.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just it's just so, it's the
Speaker 1: opposite of Paris. Do you love to hate her or
Speaker 1: do you hate her? Are you asking me every Yeah, Riley,
Speaker 1: go ahead, we gotta get some voice, get some smoky
Speaker 1: voice in there. Also with those voice, I feel very chassy,
Speaker 1: like let's dine exactly anyway, welcome to the bottom of
Speaker 1: the head um there is right now, Like you, you
Speaker 1: kind of don't like her, you kind of hate her,
Speaker 1: but I know, you know, I know what happened, so
Speaker 1: you kind of also have that love for her if
Speaker 1: you've seen it, because it stays with you. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: waiting for that. I want that. I want to get there.
Speaker 1: I do want to love her. Do you love to
Speaker 1: hate her or do you just hate her? Right now? No,
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you know. You know, look, she's a kid,
Speaker 1: she's they're all kids, and they got wacky families, and
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of pressure the top one percent.
Speaker 1: Nobody understands how they suffer. Somebody around me feeling sorry
Speaker 1: for themselves. I said, you know Champaigne problem, you know exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, give me a break. Um, But
Speaker 1: when you're look it's it's it's when you have that
Speaker 1: dire a family situation and your parents are at war.
Speaker 1: This is what happens. I wish they would show more
Speaker 1: of it. I wish they would show the wish and
Speaker 1: it would help me like the character, help me sympathize
Speaker 1: with and empathize with the character more. But she just
Speaker 1: comes right out of the gate and it's just like nasty, nasty,
Speaker 1: nasty and Daniel, what do you How do you feel
Speaker 1: about Paris? I mean, I don't know what happens, but
Speaker 1: I love her. I've been very vocal about my love
Speaker 1: for Paris. I think she is so funny and there's
Speaker 1: no character like her, you know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: need her, We need Paris. We need somebody who's like
Speaker 1: you know, super o, c D and crazy and um,
Speaker 1: you know, over the top, and she she does it
Speaker 1: for me. I don't know. I love her character and
Speaker 1: I think she's so fun to watch. I think sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead? No, no, you go ahead, you go ahead.
Speaker 1: Would you guys call her a villain, Scott, would you
Speaker 1: call her a villain? For sure? She is the Darth
Speaker 1: Vader of that of that storyline. Huh. There is the
Speaker 1: possibility of redemption, that's always there. But she is. She's
Speaker 1: either the you know, Darth Sidious uh, or she's Darth Vader.
Speaker 1: She's think about that. I'm curious people think of her.
Speaker 1: She represents them, she represents the empire. Let's just say that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I disagree. Isn't wait, Daniel, you go tell us I disagree.
Speaker 1: I think Tristan's the villain, Like if I have a villain,
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone is really a villain. But if
Speaker 1: I had to pick a villain, I would say Tristan.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Paris. I say you know what, listen,
Speaker 1: will you will you meet me in the middle and
Speaker 1: say they're both villains? Come on, come on, I'll give you.
Speaker 1: I'll give you the ship. I'll give you Tristan. If
Speaker 1: you give me a little about this, I would say
Speaker 1: they're both misunderstood. You redefined misguided. I like that. I
Speaker 1: would agree to that because, yeah, Tristan is not a
Speaker 1: villain to me. To me, he's so just misguided. But
Speaker 1: I think that if they're both representing the Empire Star
Speaker 1: Wars Trekky fans out there, if they're both representing the Empire, right,
Speaker 1: I think Tristan is more likely to join the rebellion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think because I keep thinking about when Paris she
Speaker 1: does mean things like when she told Rory that, you know,
Speaker 1: the journalism meeting was at this time, so that Rory
Speaker 1: was late, Like that was mean, and then Rory is
Speaker 1: so nice getting her in the sorority. It's like, because
Speaker 1: she represents the Empire, that's what they goes to. Tristan
Speaker 1: was mean when he was going to tell Dean about
Speaker 1: the kids. That's just that's just a rival. That's just
Speaker 1: a male rival. That's not a big deal. That's what that's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the same thing like Paris is just the female rival.
Speaker 1: Are you guys opening my eyes? You are opening It's
Speaker 1: a very good point, you know what, You're right, But
Speaker 1: I'm here for guys like them both. I will miss
Speaker 1: Tristan for sure. I think I just like his style.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, Smarmie can have a style, right
Speaker 1: and and and underhanded and slimy and all that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like there's a way to present it right, and
Speaker 1: they're both really entertaining. I mean, let's just face it.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe I'm softening a little bit on Paris.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, we'll see what comes. But it's
Speaker 1: just that when she just came up and just I
Speaker 1: don't know, anyway, let's move on. You know, Tristan is
Speaker 1: the ultimate. Even though I know you're not supposed to
Speaker 1: say this anymore. It's considered not appropriate, I think, but
Speaker 1: Tristan is the ultimate. He's mean to you because he
Speaker 1: likes you, Yeah, because it does. He does like her, yeah,
Speaker 1: and she just, you know, kind of rejects him in
Speaker 1: such a nice way, but he's still just like and
Speaker 1: then he tries to have that bravado, but really he
Speaker 1: just likes her. But he is so to the manner
Speaker 1: born that it's difficult for him to bridge that gap
Speaker 1: in his own mind to even be talking to somebody
Speaker 1: from Stars Hollow whose mother he obviously knows the history
Speaker 1: of Laurela and what happened and how she dropped away
Speaker 1: from her family and reservice and Stars Hollow to him
Speaker 1: that's a you know, that's a probably a bridge too far.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't like the fact that he has to
Speaker 1: have these feelings that he's judging Rory at the same
Speaker 1: time he's he's he's loving her and and thinking she's
Speaker 1: just announced she's blowing all these other children girls away.
Speaker 1: Um her looks, her brains, her analytical ability, her emotional maturity,
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. I mean, it's it's it's overwhelming
Speaker 1: for him, and he doesn't know how to handle it.
Speaker 1: But she is she she is a generation away from
Speaker 1: being to the manner born and she has she's bringing
Speaker 1: in a whole new set of values for him to
Speaker 1: deal with that none of his charms are working on
Speaker 1: it doesn't work on her. It's just you know, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't want and he and he's a lot like her.
Speaker 1: He kind of wishes his parents or maybe one of
Speaker 1: you know, would break up and go to Starslow so
Speaker 1: he could have a little dose of reality. What it's
Speaker 1: making me think of and this is I get that
Speaker 1: this sort of analogy is a little bit probably not
Speaker 1: like accurate for this particular episode, but I just keep
Speaker 1: thinking about Bryce Johnson's character, who's the guy at school
Speaker 1: that asked Laura lay out. His reaction to being turned
Speaker 1: down was so smooth and cool that it made her
Speaker 1: say yes, whereas Tristan's always kind of like when she
Speaker 1: tells him no, he just gets so mean or well,
Speaker 1: he who says no to him? When has he ever
Speaker 1: heard the word no? Tristan guess whatever he wants. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, right, I'm sure the comparison isn't intentional, but
Speaker 1: it is interesting to talk about in this particular episode
Speaker 1: because he's not He does don't look to me like
Speaker 1: a hard worker. That's I don't know that Tristan is
Speaker 1: a guy with a work ethic. I think he's just
Speaker 1: he's smart, he's clever. He's a bit of a screw up.
Speaker 1: There are reasons for that, you know, but he's there's
Speaker 1: no work ethic there. He's that's why he's going to
Speaker 1: military school. He's gonna get it. Yeah, he's gonna get
Speaker 1: that's a great point. Yeah, because he was just bad,
Speaker 1: doing bad things. Bad parents. Right, So it's like the
Speaker 1: dad gave up, and I don't know if the dad
Speaker 1: is saying I'm going to stop this and send you
Speaker 1: to military school. Maybe the dad is a good dad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, at that age, if he's doing that, sure,
Speaker 1: that's what a good dad would do if he had
Speaker 1: the means. Ship him off and let the generals take
Speaker 1: care of him, teach him respect and you know, bust
Speaker 1: his ass that kind of thing. Get him up at
Speaker 1: six and get him running to him, push ups, make
Speaker 1: your bed. You know. Yeah, that's that's not an easy life,
Speaker 1: you know where his sort of antics won't be tolerant.
Speaker 1: He'll learn about honor. He'll he's dishonoring himself. He's dishonoring
Speaker 1: the family name. He's he's going astray, and he's being corrected,
Speaker 1: which is a good thing. It is the first appearance
Speaker 1: I think we should point out by Adam is it Wiley.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say his last name wrong, but
Speaker 1: he plays Brad, and I think everybody should just note
Speaker 1: that because we will see the return of Brad. He
Speaker 1: was from Picket Fences. He was like you know that
Speaker 1: was a sort of a famous child actor. He'd been
Speaker 1: on a bunch of step the casual date. No, this
Speaker 1: is the boy. Oh, he's a young guy who is hysterical.
Speaker 1: When he went right, when he when he when he
Speaker 1: chased after Tristan to trust and come back. He was
Speaker 1: so terrified of the prospect of having to stand in
Speaker 1: for him. So that's Brad and Brad comes back. So
Speaker 1: we just great, you guys, you wouldn't know really, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Brad returns. So Brad is like a bit significant. So
Speaker 1: you know, look there, you know, Paris is a charismatic leader,
Speaker 1: and she's she does have a work ethic. She is
Speaker 1: smarter than everybody, and she you know, she really I
Speaker 1: think her frustration comes Obviously she's fine by herself, maybe
Speaker 1: with all the voices in her head. Um, but when
Speaker 1: she has to uh interact within a group, then we
Speaker 1: see just how hysterically bad she is at that um
Speaker 1: and she resorts to just sort of bullying everybody and um,
Speaker 1: you know, telling him what to do. And you know,
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of wealthy kids really aren't terribly motivated.
Speaker 1: So I mean, they're kind of asking for it in
Speaker 1: the first place. Am I justifying paris Is behavior? Good? God,
Speaker 1: listen to me. Wow, they kind of all need a
Speaker 1: kick in the ask, don't they. And she's given a
Speaker 1: like right right, It's like, come on, let's go, let's
Speaker 1: go get some hootspo, get some hustle, let's go. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think we like have you know that. I think
Speaker 1: we've covered sort of the important parts of anything else
Speaker 1: that really stood out to you in this episode. I
Speaker 1: mean the ice cream maker was sort of the the
Speaker 1: only other thing that kind of um yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that was the catalyst to get her out dating. You know,
Speaker 1: that's the first thing we see. It's like the memories
Speaker 1: come back, and it's like, man, I really need to
Speaker 1: move on because this thing is over and dead with dead.
Speaker 1: And by the way, that phone call with one of
Speaker 1: her relatives was hysterical. You don't really hear the word
Speaker 1: wedlock used today. It's so we're only hearing half of it,
Speaker 1: and we know exactly what I would have to say
Speaker 1: that rivals anything in that episode, as as the Golden
Speaker 1: Comedy scene. Is Laurela on the phone with that person,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just hysterical. And the twelve blueberries
Speaker 1: in the pancakes, I don't know, I see I've seen
Speaker 1: that bit before. I saw that, you know, I've seen
Speaker 1: that bit before in other things. But uh, it was
Speaker 1: just like I to tease us with unique in that way.
Speaker 1: I want to see more Unique. I want to see
Speaker 1: more Michelle. I want to see a full scene with him,
Speaker 1: and it's just like he just had little bits and
Speaker 1: pieces and he had to really you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know's I definitely want. I didn't get my my my
Speaker 1: Michelle moment in this episode, even though that was very good.
Speaker 1: I just he's so he's capable of so much more
Speaker 1: and they didn't give it to him. Yeah. In honor
Speaker 1: of your shirt, shall we do our favorite fashion? What
Speaker 1: did you think of the pigtails? Danielle? What do you
Speaker 1: think of the pigtails? I know, I can see you
Speaker 1: have a lot of thoughts. Pigtails are not my thing.
Speaker 1: I don't like him pass Riley smoking Riley. I don't
Speaker 1: agree on the big tails. I think it's a hard pass.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna that's a big thumbs up for me. Like
Speaker 1: the pig yeah, yeah, I thought they were cute. I
Speaker 1: thought they were sort of important. Yeah, my my fashion
Speaker 1: choice I loved. I think it was like a Levi's
Speaker 1: jacket with them, like a sort of a please I
Speaker 1: don't know what you call that. That caller and it
Speaker 1: was sort of like a was Laura la It was
Speaker 1: Laura Lai wearing it, and it was sort of like,
Speaker 1: we've seen that jacket and she just pulled it off.
Speaker 1: It was just super cool. So that was like a
Speaker 1: fashion moment for me. Um, yeah, you know, my favorite
Speaker 1: fashion moment, even though I don't want to be even
Speaker 1: remotely involved in this discussion right now, bad that's a
Speaker 1: Luke I thought the best piece of wardrobe in the
Speaker 1: whole thing was a Luke shirt. I'm wearing it right now.
Speaker 1: I'm modeling it oldly. Can you say it? Yeah? We
Speaker 1: love it? And wait a minute, it's too, it's too.
Speaker 1: It's exactly how it was appeared in in the episode
Speaker 1: with the yeah Luke does like the shirt under the
Speaker 1: shirt which I'm here for here, wait a minute, I'm
Speaker 1: here for it. So that's my favorite. So let's do
Speaker 1: a favorite lines. What was your favorite line? Danielle favorite, very, funniest, love, funniest, Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: My favorite line was from Rory to Lorele after when
Speaker 1: she's teasing her about the date. Um, Rory goes, he
Speaker 1: must have been a really good boy to deserve such
Speaker 1: a happy day. I bet you let him write a pony. Riley,
Speaker 1: take a break from the bistro, join us. Put the
Speaker 1: whiskey glass down too much? Smoke in this club. We're
Speaker 1: not enough. I loved when they were talking about the
Speaker 1: day two and um, she was talking about talking back
Speaker 1: and forth and so he goes, oh, stealing his burrito.
Speaker 1: You kids, that's good, take care of yourself. Mary that
Speaker 1: we're doing funniest lines. That wasn't funny. That was heartbreak felt.
Speaker 1: That was funny. No, that's not funny. That was my favorite.
Speaker 1: Funniest was definitely I've always wanted a little brother. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a hie I think a laurelized wedlock line when
Speaker 1: she's on the phone. And then there were a couple
Speaker 1: of the lines she delivered after that, Um, she delivered
Speaker 1: a Billy Graham line too. That was very funny. Yah uh.
Speaker 1: And then you know, Luke's just sort of looking at
Speaker 1: the young guy and the father of the young guy
Speaker 1: and saying, who are these people? That made me blurred
Speaker 1: out laughing. Sorry, Dorian listen, if I if I suck,
Speaker 1: I pointed out, but I I like that one. I
Speaker 1: really like that. Uh Riley is it Riley sexy moment?
Speaker 1: Why don't we talk about a little bit about the
Speaker 1: Shakespeare scenes? We didn't talk about We didn't talk about
Speaker 1: the variety of the Shakespeare scenes, and how how so
Speaker 1: many experimental theaters all over New York City, Chicago, Las Angeles, Miami, Texas,
Speaker 1: wherever they are, they're always taking putting King Lear in
Speaker 1: a taxicab. But it just doesn't work, you know. And
Speaker 1: and it was so funny that the writing took it
Speaker 1: in that direction, because then we see how tragic it
Speaker 1: can be when you take Shakespeare out of its time
Speaker 1: and try to, you know, transport it into another era.
Speaker 1: You know. I know for a fact that the Royal
Speaker 1: Shakespeare Company does Gothic versions of Shakespeare because it's budget
Speaker 1: conscious and it and and it sort of suggests, uh,
Speaker 1: the period, so that that's all fine and good, and
Speaker 1: you can get away with that, but when you really start,
Speaker 1: you know, so what did we see? We saw the examples,
Speaker 1: um of the different students groups putting on different displays,
Speaker 1: and I think, I think, what were they? They were
Speaker 1: zany and weird. It didn't work. One was like a
Speaker 1: prehistoric they were caveman. And the one very insulting line
Speaker 1: I thought. I was very offended by it. When Loyal, I,
Speaker 1: you know, Rory came up and said, what's with all
Speaker 1: the grunting and and and Laurel I says, well, we'll
Speaker 1: have to get Luke to translate, and it's like, I thought, wow,
Speaker 1: what a backhand slap, Like the character getting smacked around
Speaker 1: and he's not there to defend himself, Like what what what?
Speaker 1: I'm like, the monosyllabic idiot. What's going on here? It's
Speaker 1: interesting because that's how she sees me as a caveman
Speaker 1: who grunts. That's really interesting that you noticed that too,
Speaker 1: because now it's coming back to me. It is a
Speaker 1: little it's hostile, it's kind of it's condescending. In hostile,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna open up another can of worms. I know
Speaker 1: we're gonna get any mails about this, but I really
Speaker 1: hit me. It really did. Was that though before you
Speaker 1: two had sort of had your moment where you know,
Speaker 1: maybe was she indicating that you were sort of being
Speaker 1: mean to her? Because remember in this episode, you guys
Speaker 1: are you're mad about the fact that she went out
Speaker 1: with this young guy and you sort of were blowing
Speaker 1: her off and she mentions like, hey, we were having
Speaker 1: a real ping pong banter and then you just left.
Speaker 1: So could it have been because you haven't had your
Speaker 1: moment at the end where you really say yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: here for you. Let me tell you something. Do you
Speaker 1: know what kills a relationship or a feeling that you
Speaker 1: have for a person faster than anything sexual jealousy. And
Speaker 1: when a woman that you desire or or even dating
Speaker 1: and you really like her and she starts talking about
Speaker 1: young guys, it's over. Over. So that's what he was experiencing.
Speaker 1: And it might not be over then and there, but
Speaker 1: if there are any difficulties a year or two years
Speaker 1: down the road, that guy is never going to get
Speaker 1: that out of his head. It's gonna be she likes
Speaker 1: young guys, so you know, that's that's the reality that
Speaker 1: older guys are middle aged guys are gonna have to realize.
Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't jealous, he was like irritating. You know,
Speaker 1: if guys like young girls, don't be a hypocrite. Girls
Speaker 1: like young guys, right, So it's like that's just the
Speaker 1: way the world works. But if you're pining for somebody,
Speaker 1: if you're living for somebody, man, and they mentioned a
Speaker 1: young guy, that's it. That's bad. That's a tough one.
Speaker 1: It didn't work out with that guy at all. You know,
Speaker 1: she she was done with well once once Luke met
Speaker 1: him and sold what a goofball he was was just
Speaker 1: like now, he wasn't disturbed by it anymore. He was
Speaker 1: just making fun of her. And I don't think he
Speaker 1: lost respect for her. He felt like, Okay, I'm back
Speaker 1: in the driver's seat. I feel a little more in
Speaker 1: control now. There's nothing to worry about. This kid's like
Speaker 1: a goofball and she's a little lost without me, right,
Speaker 1: which I thought, you know, and I remember making a choice. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it was the best choice
Speaker 1: that you could have made. But if you'll notice in
Speaker 1: that scene when she came up at the end, one
Speaker 1: of the last scenes in the whole thing, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is like the moment and she's coming up to say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I still dig you and you're part of
Speaker 1: my life and you know this kind of thing, and
Speaker 1: she she's saying what she's not saying what she mean.
Speaker 1: She's saying what she means without having to be direct
Speaker 1: about it. So, um, and I'm fixing a watch. Oh okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I tell you, little watch screw driver. I had a
Speaker 1: face open. I was okay, how does Luke know how
Speaker 1: to fix a watch? Couldn't fix it? Toe us to
Speaker 1: write exactly what is he doing, like with an intricate
Speaker 1: piece of jewelry that is very complex? How is he
Speaker 1: in the watch fixing a damn watch? You can't fix
Speaker 1: it building? And so maybe the toaster was just a right,
Speaker 1: right one complex enough right anyway. So so so this
Speaker 1: is a choice that you make, because I remember making
Speaker 1: this choice. And I'm not saying that this was a
Speaker 1: genius choice. It was just a choice because they always
Speaker 1: tell you in acting school the genius is in the choice, right,
Speaker 1: And that's the mark of you know, an actor or
Speaker 1: an actress. What choices are you making? Now? I I
Speaker 1: could have been without that watch. I could have been
Speaker 1: with many other diner like things. A watch is not
Speaker 1: a diner like item at all. And I said to myself,
Speaker 1: and here's here's a perfect example of somebody overthinks. Here's
Speaker 1: a but here's a perfect example somebody overthinking something trying
Speaker 1: to make a point that nobody got. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if they got it or not. But Props came
Speaker 1: to me and says, what do you want to be
Speaker 1: doing in this scene? Because if you know, it's a
Speaker 1: big kind of important scene. I said, And I should
Speaker 1: have said you know, there are any number of things
Speaker 1: I could have done that would have maybe been a
Speaker 1: better choice than trying to fix an interestate piece of
Speaker 1: jewelry that happened to be a watch. Um, I could
Speaker 1: have been doing nothing. I could have been wiping. I
Speaker 1: could have been doing the catchup bottles. I could have been,
Speaker 1: you know, with my receipts. You know, why the watch
Speaker 1: because I thought to myself, in my actor brain, the
Speaker 1: best of the worst choice I think I ever made,
Speaker 1: uh was Luke doesn't know what time it is because
Speaker 1: watch is broken. Luke doesn't know what time it is
Speaker 1: with Laurel I. He doesn't know what time it is
Speaker 1: in his life with her, and he wants to fix
Speaker 1: the watch because she if she's running around with young
Speaker 1: guys and not having deep experiences, then what the hell
Speaker 1: is wrong with me? I'm not mad at that I
Speaker 1: need to fix my watch and be so I can
Speaker 1: know what time it is. I'm not mad at much
Speaker 1: like the door being open when they're going on the
Speaker 1: road trip to Harvard. I'm not mad. So I thought
Speaker 1: of it symbolically and I thought, you know, get me
Speaker 1: a watch. I'll fix a watch because he doesn't know
Speaker 1: what time and I didn't tell them in the prompt
Speaker 1: parts because I looked at no time and it's that's
Speaker 1: that's and they decided to keep it in or like
Speaker 1: it's time for us to sort of move forward. It's
Speaker 1: there are many different interpretations, and I thought, right, look, look,
Speaker 1: look smokey Joe's cafe over there. She you're not on
Speaker 1: your head, right, No, I think that it's genius. It's
Speaker 1: not bad on a certain level. It's kind of genius.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it altogether. And it took me
Speaker 1: a second and then now I'm like, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm in. And he fixed the watch, so it's like
Speaker 1: it's time. I like it. Anyway, there you go, that's
Speaker 1: just a fun I didn't notice the watch, but I
Speaker 1: did notice the importance of that moment and you having
Speaker 1: sort of that last line of like me too, and
Speaker 1: then it kind of we fade out. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I he became very relaxed, and he's smiling and looking
Speaker 1: down and being a little bit shy. Um. He was
Speaker 1: in love again because he fell out of love. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he don't. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: fully fell out of love. But it was like, is
Speaker 1: this girl just ridiculous and like, am I just know what?
Speaker 1: Like he was confused for that episode? He was, he
Speaker 1: was truly, Yeah, I think you're right. In the end,
Speaker 1: he was very calm and just relaxed. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think his ego took a hit and he sort
Speaker 1: of came back. You know, guys, guys can be delicate creatures.
Speaker 1: You know. You know that, right? Oh, I know, right?
Speaker 1: The rule book? Yeah. Um, but anyway, so I thought
Speaker 1: the different interpretations of Shakespeare was funny. So am I
Speaker 1: an idiot? Or was Rory and Paris's version the real version? Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They Harris insisted that it not be taken out of
Speaker 1: context and not be taken out of its time period. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: and it was really truly one of the worst acting
Speaker 1: performances of Romeo that you could possibly see. Is it
Speaker 1: hard to be a good actor within a scene acting badly?
Speaker 1: That's that's very difficult. Yeah. So what they did was
Speaker 1: actually hard. Yeah, it's really hard. It's really hard and
Speaker 1: to be funny at the same time. So it's like
Speaker 1: it's like you're you have to please so many odds
Speaker 1: in that regard the acting. Guy, It's it's very demanding
Speaker 1: and so ironic because all of you know, back in
Speaker 1: the time of the Globe Theater, all of the uh
Speaker 1: cast was was men. There were no women, even men,
Speaker 1: even men played the women. So this is a little
Speaker 1: twist on that. So um, yeah, I thought it was.
Speaker 1: It was hysterically funny. What was the other in business suits?
Speaker 1: With Wall Street guys stabbing each other? Right, wasn't there
Speaker 1: something in outer space so quick and subtle that you're
Speaker 1: like even catching this because they always have so much
Speaker 1: else going on, so that you're like, huh wait, what,
Speaker 1: Like there's so much so let's talk about Dean a
Speaker 1: little bit um the Dean Tristan stuff, And I just think,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I mean, it just shows how wayward
Speaker 1: a son Tristan became really to get so grossly so gross,
Speaker 1: But it was fun. See, I didn't mind being witnessing
Speaker 1: that scene. Yes, it's gross, it's disgusting behavior. Is this
Speaker 1: fullower the bust flower And you're just like, oh dude,
Speaker 1: And he even says it Deans like, why have to
Speaker 1: be such a jerk? But it's it's just like jerk
Speaker 1: is the right word. But it's like, is that type
Speaker 1: of evil so much more appealing when it's so relaxed
Speaker 1: and so at ease with itself and so accepting of itself.
Speaker 1: Comfortable right right right, and uh he actually did what
Speaker 1: he had one of the great lines, Hey, you know Roy,
Speaker 1: the I don't know, stockboy, there might be a running beans,
Speaker 1: he might not make it. And it was all like
Speaker 1: it was looking down his nose at the working man, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like so it really the episode itself
Speaker 1: was very Shakespearean, and that the and and that the uh,
Speaker 1: the classes were it was a little class war going on, right,
Speaker 1: conflict between the classes. So it was quite brilliant. I
Speaker 1: thought one of my absolutely these last two episodes, I
Speaker 1: think just hit it out of the park, two of
Speaker 1: my favorites. Uh had so much fun watching both of
Speaker 1: them and laughing, laughing, laughing. You know, I'm softening a
Speaker 1: little bit on Paris, I'm going to admit, but that,
Speaker 1: you know, her reintroduction right away, interrupting Henry and Rory
Speaker 1: in that way so aggressively and so nasty. It's just like,
Speaker 1: go away. It's not funny. It's like it's like it's cartoonish,
Speaker 1: and that you expect her to do this and be
Speaker 1: way over the top with it, and it's like, I
Speaker 1: just wish it was a little more clever and didn't
Speaker 1: take as long. There's like too much verbage. It's like,
Speaker 1: we know she's gonna be this way, like let's present
Speaker 1: her like you know, it's too much of her almost,
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's enough. So I feel it's how
Speaker 1: I feel what I like this episode. And I think
Speaker 1: that it also had that important moment between Luke and
Speaker 1: Laura a lot. So that's the other thing. It's like
Speaker 1: there's always this sort of significant, subtle, important moment, even
Speaker 1: between all the antics and the young guy and the
Speaker 1: burrito and the Romeo and Juliet, and then you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: there is But in terms okay, here's a question that
Speaker 1: popped in my head when I'm watching this episode in
Speaker 1: terms of what she needs, and Lord knows, that could
Speaker 1: be any number of things. Right, is he right for her?
Speaker 1: Can can he handle her? Because she is a you know,
Speaker 1: she's a dynamo, she's a uh you know, she's intellectual,
Speaker 1: she is loose, she is you know, she's a lot
Speaker 1: that is a that is a that is a lot
Speaker 1: of woman there, you know, and that's a lot of
Speaker 1: person sonality and that's a lot of fun. She is,
Speaker 1: you know, she's a really interesting woman, and um, can
Speaker 1: he handle that? Do you think he can handle that?
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the questions they want
Speaker 1: us to ask when we're watching that are these two
Speaker 1: going to be able to melds? You know? Well, I
Speaker 1: guess we'll say yeah, all right, let's dig in there.
Speaker 1: Those episodes riddled with pop culture. So the first one,
Speaker 1: we have Suki and Roy try to convince Laura to
Speaker 1: keep the ice cream maker, and Suki says, it's true.
Speaker 1: I saw on Martha Stewart, Martha Stewart's American retail businesswoman, writer,
Speaker 1: and television personality. She was named one of People Magazine's
Speaker 1: fifty most Beautiful people in the World. And Martha did
Speaker 1: five months in prison, which we all know. Martha was
Speaker 1: asked what she missed most, and she said the flavor
Speaker 1: of women. Wow. Next we have the children Teacher gives
Speaker 1: examples on the past Shakespeare plays, which we've talked about
Speaker 1: teachers as in my favorite. The climactic last scene was
Speaker 1: set during the final days of the Sunny and Share show.
Speaker 1: Sunny and Share started in the quintessentially seventies TV comedy
Speaker 1: variety show, Sonny and Shares hit songs featured prominently on
Speaker 1: the show, and they would often sing and perform them
Speaker 1: both during in between skits about the monkeys. You're talking
Speaker 1: about the monkeys. Oh sorry, sorry, there isn't monkeys where
Speaker 1: there is coming there is. Hey, sorry, well the monkeys
Speaker 1: talking about the monkeys. One of the most davious Sunny
Speaker 1: and Share songs is I Got You Babe and on Janua,
Speaker 1: Sonny was was sadly killed at a skiing accident while
Speaker 1: on vacation with his family in South like Tahoe. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like was awful. Yeah, this was awful. I
Speaker 1: thought it was as I didn't remember it being taho Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of remember being Askeden too. But one of
Speaker 1: the Kennedys was killed playing football. He skame backwards into
Speaker 1: a tree. Yes, I was awful too. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: Aspencirfule out there skiing. It's dangerous. Yeah. Next Michael Nesmith died.
Speaker 1: Maybe should skip to the most was the brains behind
Speaker 1: the whole thing. He was the songwriter. Funny scene when
Speaker 1: they did the monkeys like I think one of the
Speaker 1: girls says hey, and then Rory says he and then
Speaker 1: the other girl were the Monkeys, Monkey luisas were the Monkeys,
Speaker 1: the only one one left. Yeah. The Monkeys was the
Speaker 1: seventies television show about a group of struggling musicians included
Speaker 1: I was obsessed last train to Clarksville and I watched
Speaker 1: that they actually outsold the Beatles and the Rolling Stones
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven. And when the Monkeys came to
Speaker 1: England in nineteen sixty seven, the Beatles even threw them
Speaker 1: a big party at the Speakeasy Club. And as we've mentioned, sadly,
Speaker 1: Mickey de Lenz is the only living remaining member. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Michael Nesmith just passed away and he was touring a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks before that at the Greek Theater was
Speaker 1: their final one and like mid November, I know, right,
Speaker 1: and like one more show they were going to do
Speaker 1: a man, I know, so very sad. So going on
Speaker 1: to Paul, Paul and Laura la are talking together and
Speaker 1: Paul gives his theory about being raised by machines in
Speaker 1: the future. Paul says, the Twilight Zone marathon was on
Speaker 1: all week. So The Twilight Zone is American media franchise
Speaker 1: based on the television series created by Rod Serling. Actor
Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio is planning on making a new film with
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers setting The Twilight Zone is one of his
Speaker 1: favorite TV series. Totally in on that, Leo, Le, I
Speaker 1: love the Twilight Zone. That was fantastic. When the Sterling
Speaker 1: went to bed each night, he'd leave his tape recorder
Speaker 1: sitting on his nightstand in case he needed to record
Speaker 1: the dreams he had the night before. All of his dreams,
Speaker 1: both good and bad, ended up inspiring countless episodes of
Speaker 1: The Twilight Zone. Suki makes Michelle promise not to count
Speaker 1: the blueberries in a second. You know what, I got
Speaker 1: a comment? You did? We we talked about the Beatles
Speaker 1: a little bit, The Beetles from a party to speak
Speaker 1: easy rate, the Monkeys, the beatlestrom Party, the Beatles. Some
Speaker 1: bone head just wrote an article in the Washington Post
Speaker 1: about the Beatles and how he's talking about how overrated
Speaker 1: they are. I'm not kidding, I am not kidding. I
Speaker 1: was so incensed. I was so incensed that I actually
Speaker 1: posted a comment on my social media. I don't think
Speaker 1: I said bone head. I would never I would never
Speaker 1: use my platform and and lamb base. Somebody in that great.
Speaker 1: But this guy, I mean, what in the world is
Speaker 1: he thinking about the Beatles? We're talking about the Beatles? Oh?
Speaker 1: He was, he was, he was criticized. He was critiquing
Speaker 1: the Peter Jackson HBO thing behind the scenes writing all
Speaker 1: these songs they were writing to let it be album,
Speaker 1: and this guy that documentary. No, but I've watched pieces
Speaker 1: of it online and brilliant. I think you'll like it.
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, you know big, you know
Speaker 1: I've already stated on this podcast the big, biggest moment
Speaker 1: of my my whole career is have I stated at
Speaker 1: this or did I just tell you Amy? I think
Speaker 1: you just told me. Oh, I'm not going to reveal this.
Speaker 1: Should I reveal it? Yes? Like, oh my god, it
Speaker 1: made it. It was so. I was sitting here one
Speaker 1: night and when when you when you when you guys
Speaker 1: dropped the episodes. I listened to them, but I really
Speaker 1: like to listen to the ads, which I love. The
Speaker 1: ads I kind of fast forward to because I've already
Speaker 1: heard the interviews and I heard what you guys do
Speaker 1: with them, and it's all great, and you know when
Speaker 1: you incorporate my notes and I love that, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Um and uh. But then the ads come on,
Speaker 1: right and I'm thinking, wow, this is really cool and
Speaker 1: it's just having your own show. And then hearing these ads,
Speaker 1: and then the Beatles came on and it was I Me, Me,
Speaker 1: mind Dad an and and then and then the most expensive,
Speaker 1: the most famous voiceover artist in the history of voiceover
Speaker 1: commercial voiceovers is doing the voiceover for the Peter Jackson
Speaker 1: HBO behind the scenes, let It Writing, Let it be
Speaker 1: with the Beatles, and I just I just had this
Speaker 1: moment and I started to tear up, and I just
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. And it
Speaker 1: was of all the great things that have happened to
Speaker 1: me in this business, that was the big moment. That
Speaker 1: was the big and I did And I didn't tell
Speaker 1: you this because I remember, Yeah, I used to sit
Speaker 1: in my sister's room and used to listen to this
Speaker 1: album and she passed away. Mm hmm, okay, not to
Speaker 1: be a town. But I just, mistress, I kept listening
Speaker 1: to the ad on the show, and I kept thinking
Speaker 1: of my sister, and you know, my wife came in
Speaker 1: and comforted me, and it was just it was just
Speaker 1: but this show means so much to me and I
Speaker 1: thank you guys. I really really want to thank you guys.
Speaker 1: And I called Amir and I shared this with her
Speaker 1: because it was a big moment in my life. Um,
Speaker 1: because I grew up just loving the Beatles so much,
Speaker 1: and I know everybody, everybody from my generation and even
Speaker 1: the new generation discovering and this guy wrote an article,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, criticizing as that they're overrated. And I
Speaker 1: just want to say to this guy, if you're listening,
Speaker 1: you don't have any idea what it takes to write
Speaker 1: a song or how brilliant Paul McCartney, George Harrison, John
Speaker 1: Lennon and Ringo star are as a group and the
Speaker 1: way they created those songs. It was absolutely captivating to
Speaker 1: watch the little bit that I watched, and I will
Speaker 1: watch the whole thing, but wow, wow, Well, can I
Speaker 1: just say how grateful we are to have you, That
Speaker 1: we have a you guys like and I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't mean to like, but we have a guy who
Speaker 1: cares so much about this show that he's doing for
Speaker 1: you all that he enjoys the commercials. Think about that
Speaker 1: when you guys are listening, like Scott the show and
Speaker 1: what he's doing. So it's just like, oh my, it's
Speaker 1: a reflection of the fan base, right and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, we can't do this without them, and they're
Speaker 1: loving this for the most part. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: couple of we can take we can take this the arrows,
Speaker 1: like when they say this show was of arrows of
Speaker 1: outrageous fortune, you know, Jesus, those are there's some arrows
Speaker 1: coming at us, but it's we can take it. Uh.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I just wanted to Shay that I didn't
Speaker 1: know that I was going to share that. I'm so
Speaker 1: glad you did because I didn't say anything because I
Speaker 1: just knew it was like a important moment for you.
Speaker 1: But I'm so glad anyway, to the Washington Post writer,
Speaker 1: up your bippy, there you go. I knew Riley. Listening
Speaker 1: to Riley, this seems like the perfect moment to talk
Speaker 1: about Pamela and Tommy Lee. Okay, if I've ever known
Speaker 1: a moment that seemed perfect. So Laureliza sell it on
Speaker 1: the internet. Make a fortune. First, we bought you Pamela
Speaker 1: and Tomi Lane. Now we prepare yourself for the crazy
Speaker 1: antics of Rory and the Bard Pamela Anderson as a
Speaker 1: Canadian American actress, model, producer, author, activist, and former show girl,
Speaker 1: known for the roles on the television series Home Improvement,
Speaker 1: Baywatch and v I P. For a time, UM, she
Speaker 1: was known as Pamela Anderson, Pamela Anderson Lee, or Pamela
Speaker 1: Lee after marrying Motley Crue drummer Tommy Lee. The first
Speaker 1: time they met in Pameless says, he came up and
Speaker 1: grabbed me and licked my face for me. That's the
Speaker 1: guy for me, mom, Dad, I found him and they
Speaker 1: are known to have very tumultual tumultualists tumultuous, tumultuous roller
Speaker 1: coaster of a relationship. Thank you. And the reference here
Speaker 1: was kind of racy because it was referring to their
Speaker 1: infamous video I won't say more. You gotta keep it
Speaker 1: clean here listening, um. Next, we have Laura Lee tells
Speaker 1: Rory about the date and that that he's an outdoorsy guy.
Speaker 1: Laura I says, plus, he's outdoorsy and remember that Meryl
Speaker 1: Streep movie where she and her family take a rafting
Speaker 1: trip to the Then psycho Kevin Bacon forces them to
Speaker 1: take him down the river. The river Wild is American
Speaker 1: adventure film um starring Meryl Streep, Kevin Bacon, John c Riley,
Speaker 1: Benjamin Bratt, and Joseph Mazzello. One day on set, exhausted,
Speaker 1: Meryl Streeps was swept off her raft and it was
Speaker 1: in danger of drowning before she was rescued. And Kevin
Speaker 1: it can start in a movie seven years earlier called
Speaker 1: Whitewater Summer, in which he also played a villainous character
Speaker 1: in a movie dealt with whitewater rafting. Weird, But I
Speaker 1: did like The River Wild. I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: like a good bad mon. Kevin Bacon didn't scare me
Speaker 1: in that film. He was scarier in hollow Man. But
Speaker 1: we don't need to talk about but that character. That
Speaker 1: character has to scare you. He looked like he was rough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't think he didn't scare me. And he's a
Speaker 1: terrific actor. I mean, he really truly is. But I
Speaker 1: just did not think he was right for that role.
Speaker 1: That's my opinion. I was up for that film. I
Speaker 1: was not pleased. I was very close to working with Street.
Speaker 1: Damn it so sorry. It's a good movie. I didn't
Speaker 1: think he was right for the part. I don't last
Speaker 1: one we have on the list. Laura La tries to
Speaker 1: cheer up Rory and says we will take her for
Speaker 1: U some retail therapy. Laura Lice as I mean it.
Speaker 1: Today's to day. We're finally going to Spring for the
Speaker 1: power puff Girls shot Glasses The power up Puff Girls
Speaker 1: in American superhero animated television series for the Cartoon Network.
Speaker 1: George Jetson of the Jetsons in two occasionally appears in
Speaker 1: the background flying in his space car as Blossom, Bubbles,
Speaker 1: and Buttercup are in a flight to a rescue. They
Speaker 1: were originally known as the Wood Bass Girls, and the
Speaker 1: series premiere in Monkey See Doggie Do Mommy Frist was
Speaker 1: the highest rated debut in Cartoon Network history, and originally
Speaker 1: filming for Powerpuff Girls began in Spring for a reboot,
Speaker 1: but since the pilot is now being reworked, we're expected
Speaker 1: to see it sometime in two at the earliest. And
Speaker 1: that's your pop. Thank you, You're welcome. That was that
Speaker 1: was riveting. The voice that you're using, the voice that
Speaker 1: you possess. Now, if you could bottle that, I'll do
Speaker 1: some lines and then maybe like record them and replay them.
Speaker 1: I think you should actually, honestly, the time you got
Speaker 1: to capture it. Now, you know, I gotta make some
Speaker 1: cold You gotta do it. You gotta do it. Just
Speaker 1: just like take a day. Just take the day and
Speaker 1: come up with it. Yeah, you might want to record
Speaker 1: this is Ryley and this is your book. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it's a great impression. Just have just had fun with
Speaker 1: it and then send it off the east and you
Speaker 1: know that that Mad Scientists is gonna be pulling some drinks.
Speaker 1: Episode is next week. I think we have one more week,
Speaker 1: one more episode before you leave on Christmas vacation. We'll
Speaker 1: be gone for one week. Don't worry, it's gone one week.
Speaker 1: I think we have one more so any minute, so peop,
Speaker 1: we're trying to squeeze in one more before Santa comes.
Speaker 1: So we got the Bracebridge Dinner. That's episode ten right,
Speaker 1: season two, big episode. Um, I think we're good, guys.
Speaker 1: Do we have any fun? That's the problem with you guys.
Speaker 1: I don't. I never have any fun with you guys.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. We're gonna have to work on that.
Speaker 1: Let's work on that and then we'll come back and
Speaker 1: we'll have more fun. I head of blast, I missed this.
Speaker 1: My god, we haven't gotten together in a couple of days.
Speaker 1: We were dropping like an episode a day. We're two
Speaker 1: episodes a day, just carpet bombing everybody. Here's twenty episodes.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, we haven't seen you in really, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, wait a minute, Dad, now, mom, Now, we're
Speaker 1: a little light. We're listening to They just went, hang on,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna make it. They just dropped another episode.
Speaker 1: Anyone that listens to this podcast, because most interestingly about podcast,
Speaker 1: people don't listen to the very last minute, but anyone
Speaker 1: that does always gets a real treat because we get
Speaker 1: real nutty. Yeah, it's it's it's really a tradition in
Speaker 1: our world. It's like because we're so focused and then
Speaker 1: it just comes apart. That's that's what we how we
Speaker 1: like to do it. Um Anyway, next week, were like
Speaker 1: in two days. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. We've seen a
Speaker 1: couple of days. We're going to do another one in
Speaker 1: a couple of days. Oh right, we are very excited.
Speaker 1: All right, anyway, gang, that's gonna do it for Uh,
Speaker 1: let me try that again. What's the name of the
Speaker 1: episode again? Runaway little bit? Alright, Gang that's gonna do
Speaker 1: it for Runaway little Boy season two, episode nine. What
Speaker 1: a barn burner it was in Norman, It was really
Speaker 1: a barn burner. Um Riley pelusis otherwise known as Smokey Riley.
Speaker 1: Now she's gonna record that smoky voice or some voice over.
Speaker 1: Do re me Danielle Romo, who came in and out
Speaker 1: of the episode she's she is. I'll tell you. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something about daniel Romo. This is one
Speaker 1: of the busiest producers in all of podcasting. I mean,
Speaker 1: the three of you are the busiest producers, uh and
Speaker 1: executive producers of these things. I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 1: amazing how you have the time to do all this stuff.
Speaker 1: Speaking of time coming to you, gotta go, I'll show up.
Speaker 1: We're dragging it out a little bit amy. Thank you, hey, everybody,
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