1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Ola Ezequielle de la Brega here with a quick reminder. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: We will be hosting a built a Q and a 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: conversation for Futuoplos Campeon level members Tuesday, April seven at 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: two pm Eastern. Alana Lurana I will be unpacking how 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: the season was made. Mark your calendars and become a 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: Futuplas member at the Campaigon level today. Find all the 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: details at Futuro Media Group dot org, flash Joint plus Gracias. 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: Fu. 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: It's February eighteenth, twenty twenty six in downtown Sacramento, California 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 3: and Maria de Jesu's Estrada What is? She has an 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: appointment in one of the buildings here. She's lived in 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 3: the United States for almost thirty years, and this morning 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: her twenty two year old daughter, Da Madis is by 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: her side. 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 4: My mom went to a dream hard for something that 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 4: was supposed to be a. 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: Step show, but instead of getting her green card, a 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: federal immigration agent shows up suddenly and tells Madia that 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: she has an immediate order for deportation. Madia's wrists and 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 3: feet are cuffed. Then an agent cites a removal order 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: dating back to when she was just fifteen years old 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: and across the US Mexico border. This is a story 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: that sadly is not new, but it is now much 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: more common under this second Trump administration. Immigrants are following 25 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: legal processes in this country and then they are still 26 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: getting detained. But there is something different about mads case, 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: and that's because she's been a DACA recipient for over 28 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: a decade. DACA is the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, 29 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: something that was first announced by DHS in twenty twelve 30 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: during the Obama administration. Now, DOCA recipients don't have citizenship status, 31 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: but they have been a protected group of immigrants since 32 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: the executive action was announced. Maria had no criminal record 33 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: and still had valid DACA status when she went in 34 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: for that green card interview, and yet she was not 35 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: only detained by federal immigration authorities, she was deported to 36 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: Mexico within twenty four hours. 37 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 5: In a single moment. Nearly three years of my life 38 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 5: were taking away from me. My home, my work, my 39 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 5: community were suddenly gone. But the greatest pain is losing 40 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 5: time with my daughter. 41 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 3: Like many immigrant families, she's now suffering through a forced 42 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: separation Maria is in Mexico, a country that she left 43 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: decades ago, and her adult daughter, Da maris a US 44 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: citizen and remains in California. 45 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: I feel like a peace of my life has been 46 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: ripped away. No daughter should have to live like this, 47 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: No family should have to be torn apart like this. 48 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: That's Da Madis speaking at a news conference in DC 49 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: this past March. 50 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: And now the person who taught me what love, sacrifice 51 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: and strength look like is thousands of miles away. 52 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: On March twenty third, a federal judge declared that Maria's 53 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: deportation was quote a flagrant violation of doaca's protections, and 54 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: the judge ordered her return to the United States. And 55 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: then on March thirtieth, about a week later, Madia and 56 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: her daughter reunited at the San Diego border crossing. Maria 57 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: was returned to the US and granted humanitarian parole. And 58 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: Maria's case is important because it's a reminder that she 59 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: is one of among several hundred of DACA recipients who 60 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: have already been target under Trump's second term. But that 61 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: means that the tens of thousands of people who remain 62 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: on DACA could also end up having the same fade 63 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: from Fudro Media. It's Latino USA. I'm Maria ino Josa 64 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: Today DACA. First, we'll hear from NBC News reporter Nicola 65 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: Sevedo about what's been happening with the DACA program. 66 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 6: Later, a little bit of history. 67 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to speak with someone who actually fought to 68 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: make DOCA a reality under the Obama administration. First producer 69 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: Rinaldo leanoz Junior with the beginning of our story. 70 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 7: Nicola Savedo has been a journalist for more than a decade. 71 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 7: She reported on the first Trump administration, and she's been 72 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 7: covering his second term. 73 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: The biggest difference was that DACA as a whold was 74 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: kind of like in life support. 75 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 7: Lately, documenting the crackdown of the Trump administration's efforts to 76 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 7: detain and deport DOCKER recipients. So far, more than two 77 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 7: hundred and fifty docer recipients have been targeted by Immigration 78 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 7: and Customs enforcement, according to DHS. You might remember that 79 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 7: Trump tried to get rid of the Docker program back 80 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 7: in twenty seventeen, and since then there's been a lot 81 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 7: of legal whiplash about where the program stands. Once President 82 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 7: Biden was in office, his administration tried to bring back 83 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 7: the program similar to how it was back in twenty 84 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 7: twelve when Obama established it, but the cases got caught 85 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 7: up in the courts. 86 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: Those cases dragged gone so long by the time Biden 87 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: excited office, they weren't resolved. So then when Trump steps 88 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: into office again, DACAR recipients are kind of in a 89 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: great area in terms of how the administration is gonna 90 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: deal with them and how they're going to prioritize them. 91 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 7: And then last summer the. 92 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security issuing a warning to DACA recipients nationwide. 93 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: We started seeing DAKA recipients that had good status being 94 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: detained and some of them even deported. And that's when 95 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: the ground really shifted from under them. 96 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 7: If you do something to lose your DACA status, you 97 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 7: are no longer protected from deportation. 98 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: And I remember the Trump administration even sent me a 99 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: statement back saying we don't see DHAKA as a legal status, 100 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: basically saying we will jail them, depoort them, detain them 101 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: as we see accordingly. And that really was a tone 102 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: shift from what Trump had told us previously at NBC News. 103 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 6: You want them to be able to stay. That's what 104 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 6: you're saying, I do. I want to be able to 105 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 6: work something out. 106 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: Which was that he wanted to do something about daka 107 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: that he didn't had no interest in targeting these young people. 108 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 2: When that mass deportation agenda really began to ramp up, 109 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: a big thing was not just trying to arrest as 110 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: many people as possible out in the streets, but the 111 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: administration also started limiting programs, limiting the waste in which 112 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: people could come and stay legally in the country. And 113 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: that is what we started seeing with dhaka recipients, by 114 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: basically having daga literally dying a death of a thousand cuds, 115 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: just being reserved for people who already had it, who 116 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: can do renewals. 117 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 8: No new applicants know nothing. 118 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 7: It was a cascading effect. 119 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: We started seeing cases in which the renewal approval was 120 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 2: getting so long that then their dhaka expired, the renewal 121 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: has it come through, and now they technically become fair 122 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: game for the administration and advancing their agenda. 123 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 7: Since early last year, Nicole has documented a lot of 124 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 7: cases of doka recipients targeted by ice when the big. 125 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: Ice rates were raging in California, angelist ring that summer, 126 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: we saw a deaf mute young man who was a 127 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: DAKA recipient who was picked up when he was at 128 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: work at a car wash. 129 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 7: Surveillance video here shows agents entering the California car wash 130 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 7: where Ja the air Dia Santana works, shouting commands that 131 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 7: of course he couldn't hear or understand. 132 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: And he was detained for several weeks and then released 133 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: precisely because the DAKA standing was good. Then a similar 134 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: case from an activist in Texas who was picked up 135 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: at the airport. Twenty eight year old community organizer Catalina 136 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: Sochi Santiago was detained by Customs and Border Protection. She 137 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: was a longtime activist advocating for immigrant rights on documented people. 138 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: She was detained two months released when the DAKA was 139 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: in good status, because that guy is supposed to protect them, 140 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: not only from deportation, from also from detention. 141 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 7: DHS has said that the majority of DOC recipients detained 142 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 7: by ICE had quote criminal histories outside of civil immigration violations, 143 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 7: something the administration has also claimed about the wider population 144 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 7: of immigrants detained by ICE, But the fact is that 145 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 7: the majority of people currently in ICE custody do not 146 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 7: have criminal records according to DHS's own data, and in 147 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 7: order to even get DOKA, you have to undergo extensive vetting. 148 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 7: For example, you cannot have a criminal record to qualify 149 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 7: or get a renewal. Nicole explains how for DHS, the 150 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 7: goal seems to be finding anything in the DOCA recipient's 151 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 7: background to criminalize. 152 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: Them, and then something that we started to see more 153 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: recently is determining if they had preview orders of deportation. 154 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: In the case of DACA recipients, it's tricky because these 155 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: were people who were brought as kids, So if they 156 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: had a deportation are placed on them, or it has 157 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: some kind of re entry, they wouldn't know there were children. 158 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 7: Despite the Trump administration targeting docer recipients, the program is 159 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 7: strongly supported across the political spectrum and among everyday Americans. 160 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 7: A Gallup poll from twenty twenty five showed that sixty 161 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 7: six percent of registered voters support legal pathways for Dreamers, 162 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 7: undocumented people who came here as kids, and there's been 163 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 7: bipartisan efforts to fight for federal legislation that would give 164 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 7: permanent legal protections for the more than five hundred thousand 165 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 7: docer recipients, but until then, the future of DOCA remains 166 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 7: in limbo and vulnerable to the Trump administration's mass deportation efforts. 167 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: The bottom line I would say is DACA is only 168 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: open for people who already had DACA. So if you 169 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 2: had DAGA already, you can continue to renew that DACA, 170 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: but the program is closed for new applicants. What has 171 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: become more evident is that a lot of times this 172 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: population of Amerian youth feels like a political pawn and 173 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: all these cases that we've seen. Having to face that 174 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: uncertainty year after year after year is the thing that, 175 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: sadly has always been part of the DHAKA program. But 176 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: also the path forward for DACA recipiency is to give 177 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: them some kind of permanent solution for things to change, 178 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: otherwise this is their normal. 179 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: Nicole Azebedo is with NBC News. When we come back, 180 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: we're going to dig into the history of DHAKA. We're 181 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: going to speak with someone who is undocumented for years 182 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: and fought to make the DACA program a reality under 183 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: the Obama administration. 184 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 8: We hit a nerve collectively and we get a call 185 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 8: to meet with the White House, and back then we 186 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 8: were still on document it, so we couldn't even go 187 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 8: inside the White House. 188 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: Stay with us, not byes. It's Latino USA. I'm Maria 189 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: Ino Josan. We've been hearing how DACA recipients have been 190 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: targeted under the second Trump administration's mass deportation efforts. Now 191 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,359 Speaker 3: we're gonna hear from Nadi Domingez. She's a labor organizer, 192 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: but she fought for years to help make DACA a 193 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: reality for hundreds of thousands of people. Now Nadi is 194 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: a US citizen and she has continued to organize in 195 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: the pro labor and immigrant movements. Nadi grew up in Morelos, Mexico. 196 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 8: I have memories of walking to school through like fields. 197 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 8: I remember playing in the street. I remember gorritas like 198 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 8: there was just so many food around. My mom was 199 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 8: a single mom, so it was just my mom, my sister, 200 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 8: and I, but there was always people caring for us. 201 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: One day, when Nadie was in elementary school, everything changed. Nadi, 202 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: her cousin, and another student were almost kidnapped. 203 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 8: I have memories of being grabbed and then two men 204 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 8: running towards the gates to throw us over and climb 205 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 8: over and luckily there were like security guards at the school, 206 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 8: and so they like tackle them down. 207 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: Natie's mom realized they weren't safe in Mexico anymore, and 208 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: so they decided it was time to head north to 209 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: the United States. Nadi was just nine years old. 210 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 8: We left the house really early in the morning. Both 211 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 8: my sister and I were wearing tracksuits. I'm pretty sure 212 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 8: hers was pink and mine was purple, and we had 213 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 8: one little backpack. We left everything behind. 214 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 6: It's a memory that's still very raw. 215 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 8: I was scared. My sister was younger, and she started 216 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 8: to cry. 217 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: They made it to the US and found refuge in 218 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: a family member's house in California. 219 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 8: This is a whole new world. I don't know what's 220 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 8: going to happen where we're together. 221 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: Nadi and her family arrived in the state in nineteen 222 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: ninety seven, but California looked very different back then. It 223 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: was run by a Republican governor, Pete Wilson, who was 224 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: a big precursor for a lot of the anti immigrant 225 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: laws and movements that we see today, and Nadie was 226 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: exposed to all of this as a little girl in 227 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: what would become her new homeland. 228 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 8: I come into the United States. Going into fifth grade, 229 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 8: I didn't know English. I get put in into a 230 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 8: classroom at this point because of all this anti immigrant sentiment, 231 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 8: all the different policies and things that Pete Wilson was 232 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 8: trying to push. When I start school, they already no 233 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 8: longer had bilingual education. I remember being really advanced. I 234 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 8: remember knowing the answers and raising my hand to try 235 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 8: to answer the math questions and being completely shut down 236 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 8: because I couldn't answer them in English. I didn't tell 237 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 8: my mom every single time now I would see the 238 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 8: school bus. I just didn't want to go to school, 239 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 8: and I loved school. So my mom started seeing some 240 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 8: things that she was like, what's going on? This is 241 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 8: not my kid. 242 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: So Nadie's mom advocated for her daughter in school. Her 243 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: mom was also active in organizing day laborers and domestic workers, 244 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: and Natie saw her mom standing up for her community. 245 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: And in fact, it was her mother's activism that made 246 00:15:55,040 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: Nati aware of their undocumented status. 247 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 8: So the moment where I decide to really be way 248 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 8: more outspoken about my story and public about being undocumented 249 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 8: comes almost as a progression. 250 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: In eighth grade, Natie started advocating for in state tuition 251 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: for immigrants, and she kept at it from there. While 252 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: in college at the University of California, Santa Cruz, she 253 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: started organizing undocumented youth on her campus. Then, after graduating 254 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: college in two thousand and eight, Nadie went back home 255 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: and continued to organize around a new youth led immigrant movement. 256 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: It was around this time, in twenty ten, that a 257 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: lot of undocumented young people were starting to come out 258 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: of the shadows. They were using phrases like undocumented, unafraid, 259 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: and unapologetic, and they were calling for immigration reform under 260 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: the Obama administration. 261 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 8: So there was this calculated moment where we really believed 262 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 8: and felt like we could win something instead of nothing. 263 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 8: I really felt powerful. I think the powerfulness really was 264 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 8: powered by a deep sense of anger at the Democratic 265 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 8: Party at the Obama administration for increasing deportations. I mean, honestly, 266 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 8: Obama had everything in place to actually push for immigration 267 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 8: reform and the Democratic Party refused to. 268 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. It's Latino Usa. I'm Maria Ino Jossa. 269 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: We're gonna continue now with the story of Nadi Domingez. 270 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: She explains how she and others helped make DACA a 271 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 3: reality and what organizing for the program should look like 272 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 3: under the second Trump administration. 273 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 8: Now. 274 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 3: As a young organizer, Nadie felt really powerful. She and 275 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 3: others across the country were vocal about immigration reform. Nadie 276 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: drew from a well of rage inside of her that 277 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: she felt towards the Obama administration and towards the Democrats 278 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: because they were not doing more for Dhaka. This was 279 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: especially true around the lead up to Obama's second term 280 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 3: during the campaign season, and that's when Nadie says, there 281 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 3: were already a lot of broken promises from Obama and 282 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: from the Democrats. Despite this, she and other young activists 283 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 3: kept on mobilizing. They kept pushing, and their target at 284 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: the time was President Barack Obama himself. 285 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 8: We just couldn't go back to the shadows right like 286 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 8: we had come out, we had organized thousands and thousands 287 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 8: of immigrant youths across the country. Instead of giving up, 288 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 8: we kept strategizing. We all had this kind of moment 289 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 8: where we realized, Okay, we've tried the legislative branch that 290 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 8: have failed us. The judiciary branch is only going to 291 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 8: take us very far, and it's not going to be 292 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 8: a system wide change. So the only one we haven't 293 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 8: actually tried is the executive branch, and who's at the 294 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 8: very top of that branch is the president. There were 295 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 8: young people that took the Obama offices. I myself was 296 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 8: arrested in an ice office in twenty eleven, so people 297 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 8: were trying different tactics. All of us understood who the 298 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 8: target was and what was possible to win. In that moment, 299 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 8: we hit a nerve collectively and we get a call 300 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 8: to meet with the White House. And back then we 301 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 8: were still on document it, so we couldn't even go 302 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 8: inside the White House. We met in a row home 303 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 8: next to Lafayette Park. When we got that call, we 304 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 8: knew that they were trying to placade us right. We 305 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 8: knew that they were going to say it was not 306 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 8: legally possible. 307 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: Up until this point, President Obama had said over and 308 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: over again that his hands were tied and that he 309 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: could not use executive action to pass DAKA. 310 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 8: So what we did was like, Okay, fine, then we'll 311 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 8: get all the lawyers, constitutional lawyers, immigration lawyers, like the 312 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 8: big academics of Harvard and Yelle to do a letter 313 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 8: and get their peers to put together basically a legal 314 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 8: memo that says, yes, mister President, you can do it. 315 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 8: And so we went into that meeting, we really treated 316 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 8: it like a negotiation, and then we gave them a deadline. 317 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 8: And after that what you've been seeing happening around the 318 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 8: country of young people taking more actions like there will 319 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 8: be more. We know you can do this, and you 320 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 8: need to do it now. 321 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: And then came Obama's announcement in the Rose Garden in 322 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: the summer of twenty twelve. 323 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 9: Effective immediately, the Department of Homeland Security is taking steps 324 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 9: to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people. 325 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: Obama announced DACA an executive action. It was a big 326 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: win for the movement, but it also came with limitations. 327 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 9: This is not immunity, this is not a path to citizenship. 328 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 9: It's not a permanent fix. 329 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: DACA was not passed through legislation, and as a result, 330 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: it has left the DACA program and all of its 331 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: recipients vulnerable. More than a decade later, many in the 332 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: immigrant rights movements still feel that Obama and the Democrats 333 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: should have pushed for broader and more long term and 334 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: comprehensive protection for immigrants. When Nadie looks back at the 335 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 3: Obama presidency. She also points towards how his administration continued 336 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 3: to deport immigrants on a mass scale. In fact, she 337 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 3: blames President Obama for where we are right now in 338 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: terms of DACA and in terms of all of the 339 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 3: immigration enforcement. 340 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 8: He should have acted like within the first year of 341 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 8: his first term, and the fact that he didn't act 342 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 8: on pushing for immigration reform but then instead created the 343 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 8: perfect foundation for a deportation machine that now someone like 344 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 8: Trump could scale up and leverage to do the horrible 345 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 8: things that he's doing. Trump has taken ice to a 346 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 8: different level. It came from what Obama built, and I 347 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 8: think it's really hard for people to admit that. Even 348 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 8: in the immigrant rights movement, people won't even say that, 349 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 8: but that is what happened. He deported thousands of people 350 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 8: and did not move anything and the reform sign other 351 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 8: than DACA because we force them to. 352 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 3: Nady knows that there's a lot of fear in the 353 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 3: immigrant community today, but she has a message for the 354 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: young people who are organizing for immigration reform. She says, 355 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: do not go at it alone. 356 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 8: This is a moment where we actually really need to 357 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 8: create the most broadest biggest, boldest progressive movement in the 358 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 8: United States that is pro immigrant and pro black. This 359 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 8: is not a moment where I would expect undocumenting young 360 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 8: people to do sit ins to defend our democracy by 361 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 8: ourselves like we did then. For me, the light that 362 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 8: I see is learning right now to fight together. And 363 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 8: I don't say that just like of symbolism. I really 364 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 8: mean that. I really think the only way forward right 365 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 8: now is to have imgrants and non immigrants, and white 366 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 8: people and black people and Latinos fighting together from the 367 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 8: identity of being workers. And I think the most common 368 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 8: denominator that connects all of us, whether you're a doctor 369 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 8: or a construction worker, is being a worker. And we 370 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 8: are the people that make this country run every day. 371 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 8: And so the way forward for me really is a 372 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 8: bold labor movement in this moment where we can say 373 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 8: this labor movement believes in immigration reform. This fight is 374 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 8: our fight. Immigrant rights are worker rights. I don't think 375 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 8: any of us are safe. We are in twenty twenty six, 376 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 8: and that is the reality we're living. And that's why 377 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 8: I don't think this fight for immigration is a fight 378 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 8: alone of immigrants. It has to be a fight of everybody, 379 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 8: and it has to be a fight that makes sense 380 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 8: to everybody. 381 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 6: That was Nati Dominguez. 382 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: She's the founding executive direct actor of Organized Power in Numbers. 383 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: It's an organization that champions the working class and that 384 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 3: works with the pro labor movement in the United States. 385 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: This episode is the work of Renaldo Leanos Junior and 386 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 3: Nicole Rothwell. 387 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 6: It was mixed by Brandon Grugel at Multitude. 388 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: Fact checking for this episode by Roxanna Aguire. 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