1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. When we started this, we never thought 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: we were going to be traveling the world ever, you know, 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: we you know, we knew we wanted to get in 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: a van and just try to go places and you know, 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: play for different people in different parts of the country. 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: But we never thought it would become what it became. 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: For ten years, it was driving in a van and well, 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: first it was Dexter's pickup truck. I'm going across Gutry 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: in his pickups back. 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of the Taking a Walk podcast 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: with your host Buzz Night. Buzz speaks with musicians about 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: their music, their passion, and their latest work. Today, Buzz 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: is joined by Kevin Wasserman, better known as Noodles, the 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: guitarist of the iconic punk rock band The Offspring. Noodles 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: has been a driving force behind The Offspring's energetic sound 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: for over three decades, helping shape the landscape of punk 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: rock and alternative music. From their breakout success with Smash 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four to their continued relevance in the 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: music scene with new music super Charged, Noodles has been 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: there every step of the way. Here's Buzznight with Noodles 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: on Taking a Walk. 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: Noodles. It's so great to have you on the Take 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: Out a Walk podcast. 24 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Thanks buzz. Yeah, it's good to be here. 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 3: So what was the first time you remember noodling on 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: a guitar? 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: Oh? 28 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Gosh, really, when I was probably twelve or so, I 29 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: actually took lessons from the sweet old lady in the 30 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: neighborhood who wanted to teach me Flies in the Buttermilk Shoe, 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: Fly Shoe, and I just couldn't have been more bored 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: with that, so I kind of put it away for 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: a while. There was always guitars laying around both Mike, 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: we had a cousin who came and lived with us, 35 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: and he was a lefty, but we restrung his guitar 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: right handed anyways. And then my dad had a classical 37 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: guitar always laying around, and so I just always kind 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: of pick it up. But it wasn't until I was 39 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: really about eighteen when I really started learning how to 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: play guitar properly. 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: Would you ever consider a punk version of Flies in 42 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: the Buttermilk Shoe fight. 43 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: You, Oh God, let's talk. Let's talk to me first. 44 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: In the GIMMI gimmes see what they see, how they 45 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: could put that together. 46 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: So what were the other influences at that time? It 47 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: was like Hendrick I'm sure was a big deal growing up, and. 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: A lot of like really, you want to know, what 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: really got me to want to play guitar was the 50 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: theme song to mash Suicide Is Painless. I just thought 51 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: it was so beautiful. In fact, I in fifth grade 52 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: I learned how to play the flute because of that song. 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: I wanted, you know, the flute and the guitar thing. 54 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: And then the flute seemed a little, i don't know, 55 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: a little too uh, I don't know, I don't know 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: what's the right word for it. A little too wimpy, 57 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: I guess. So then in sixth grade I switched to 58 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: the trumpet. And my dad was a big trumpet player. 59 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: He loved the trumpet, and so I think I was 60 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, emulate my dad a little bit. 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 3: You were trying to find your way a little. 62 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Bit, right, exactly. 63 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, And we're still trying to find our way absolutely. 64 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: You know, you never you're never too old to try to, yeah, 65 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: to try new things and try to learn new things. 66 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: So the band's been around for nearly forty years. What 67 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: is the secret to this amazing longevity of the band. 68 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta love doing it. I love playing music, 69 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, from the very obsessive, compulsive part of you know, 70 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: being in the studio trying to come up with new 71 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: music that it sounds good something you like, you know, 72 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: from nothing to just rehearsals and you know, going over 73 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: the same stuff over and over again, and then getting 74 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: out and you know, finally playing you know, songs for 75 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: an audience and connecting with them. I mean, it's just 76 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: it's it's what I love to do, absolutely love it. 77 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: And all the guys in the band right now feel 78 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: the same way. It's it's we're having a lot of 79 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: fun doing what we do. 80 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: Congratulations on super Charge. We'll talk about that in a 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: little bit. That's really astounding and really great music as well. 82 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: For sure. First concert experience that you ever can remember. 83 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yeah, early days. I remember going and seeing 84 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: just punk bands in backyards really, you know, and bands 85 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: that would play in my high school quad and I 86 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: just thought, man, these guys are just doing it. They 87 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: figured out how to play instruments and get together with 88 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: people and play music. I just always thought, even like 89 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: some of the crappiest bands. I always thought there's something 90 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: really special about getting together with you know, three or 91 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: four other people and making music together and just vibing 92 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: with each other. I've always I've always dug that first 93 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: big concert might have been Rush and thirty eight special 94 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: at the Forum here in. 95 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: LA And I mean it was a positive experience, obviously, Yes, yeah. 96 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I dug it. You know it was, Uh, it was. 97 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: I always preferred smaller venues, you know, and and clubs, 98 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: going to see Gosh, the Dickies at Ichabod's in Fullerton, 99 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. I guess the Ramones at 100 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: the Pladium were that was kind of kind of a big, 101 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: big show, you know, compared to some of the some 102 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: of the smaller clubs. 103 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: So your guitar playing is so core to the band. 104 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 3: Has it evolved in certain ways over time? Do you think? 105 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: Uh? I suppose. I I like to think I've gotten 106 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: better and more consistent in my playing. I'm less sloppy 107 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: over time, but I still have sloppy days, you know. 108 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I kind of I kind of 109 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: joke about I'm I'm the guy who comes in and 110 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: puts the tattered edge on everything in the studio. I 111 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: think there's some truth to that, but I'm think there's 112 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: also some energy to my playing that just adds something 113 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: rather than takes away from from a recording. 114 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: I'm glad you talk about imperfection because I think it 115 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: is part of the beauty of the sound. Really, I 116 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: think and do you feel at times today, especially with 117 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: technology and everything, that there's sometimes too much perfection? 118 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: Well, I think that was what got me into punk rock. 119 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: You know, there was a lot of really just overproduced, 120 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: big arena rock bands where everything was you know, had 121 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: to be perfect, and punk rock was kind of the 122 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: antithesis of that. You could, if you had three chords 123 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: and you know, something to scream about, you can you 124 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: can make songs and make music. 125 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: Now, were you somebody with your guitar where you would 126 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: you know, fool around and reverse engineers certain things maybe 127 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: that you wanted to get out of a guitar. Would 128 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: you sort of you know, tech around with. 129 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: Things a little bit, you know, experiment with different you know, 130 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: different types of effect boxes and stuff. You know, when 131 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: I was first learning, you know, everything was analog. You 132 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: didn't have all the digital tools that you have today, 133 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, So yeah, I mean you know, gosh, what 134 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: was the like the memory man? Uh, you know, effects 135 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: boxes were so weird, you know, and you can get 136 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: some really weird sounds out of those and the different 137 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: delays and stuff where there was a lot of fun 138 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: messing around with that stuff and trying to figure it out. 139 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: And then also yeah, like you know, trying to make 140 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: a citar by putting you know, a piece of like 141 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: metal coat hanger over the edge so that it it 142 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: buzzes right next to the bridge, you know, trying to 143 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: make a gitar sound like that, you know, different things 144 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: like that, try to make it sound like bells by 145 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: how you how you pick it differently, you know, I know, 146 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: and listening to you know, other people talking about how 147 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: they made music. I know, the Stones talked about you know, 148 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: Street Fighting Man was an acoustic guitar that they taped 149 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: onto a little I think a little tape recorder and 150 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: then played it back into the microphone and it just distorted. 151 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: And that's how they got that sound for Street Fighting Man, 152 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: you know. And so you kind of you listen to 153 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: what other people are doing and then experiment, you know, 154 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: with your own your own equipment. 155 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: And I see you got some guitars behind you there. 156 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: What are some of your your favorites. I'm sure they're 157 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: all favorites, but are there some particular ones that you 158 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: can highlight? 159 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? Right here, Well, there's my signature model, the kind 160 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: of Start or Sunburst Talman. That's my latest signature model, 161 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: and I love the Talents. They just they play great. 162 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: They have kind of like a sixties vintage feel to them. 163 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: They're lightweight, which is great if you're jumping up and 164 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: down on stage for an hour and a half. It's 165 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: nice to have something that's not too heavy. I never 166 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: could handle the especially jumping up and down handling of les. 167 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: Paul's a little heavy. 168 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: But I love them. 169 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: In the studio, I love you know a lot of guitars, 170 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know if you can see the 171 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: class but one that's the my dad's classical guitar. I 172 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: have a Sunburse Telly and that's a reissue of the 173 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: very one of the very first guitars I ever bought 174 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: was a Telly and I used to play that in 175 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: the early days and eventually realized that the feedback from 176 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: that that bridge pickup was just a little too much. 177 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: It was it wasn't I mean it was like screaming 178 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: microphonic feedback, you know, and it would be a little bit, 179 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: a little bit too much. So then I got a 180 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: humbucker and and made it a little bit less noise. 181 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 1: I think my first humbucking guitar was a Gibson Sonics 182 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: like a and then I had a I couldn't afford 183 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: a full on less Paul, so I got an epiphone 184 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: less Paul and and made that work and sounded great. 185 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: And that was probably around the ignition era I started 186 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: using that stuff. 187 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: You mentioned your pop, who I know you've you've lost 188 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: fairly recently. I know he meant the world to you. 189 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: Can you talk about your dad and the great inf 190 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: ruins he had on you. 191 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's still a little a little raw, but yeah, sure. 192 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, my dad always encouraged me to to to 193 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: play music, well, you know, just not as loudly sometimes, 194 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, and as and he hated he hated punk rock. 195 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: Like I remember him yelling at me, there's no such 196 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: thing as a holiday in Cambodia, and I'm like, you know, Dad, 197 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: you might be getting it, you might be getting it now, 198 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: and uh, but he always encouraged me to play, you know, 199 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: and and was always proud of just by meagerest accomplishments. 200 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,479 Speaker 1: He didn't I didn't need to sell a million records, 201 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:44,239 Speaker 1: you know, for you know, to earn his appreciation, and 202 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, he just he was always there, 203 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: so yeah, that you know it was And he was 204 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: always playing music from Simon and Garfunkel with the harmonies 205 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: and and uh Crossby Stills, A Nash Creden's clear Water 206 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: for the Swampy Rocks that he loved Credence. And then 207 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: you know classical stuff Christopher Parkning, you know on guitar, 208 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: a classical guitar. Eighteen twelve overture would always play like 209 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: in the morning that I think he would do that 210 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: when I was a teenager in my twenties and I'd 211 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: be sleeping it, sleeping in he would blare eighteen twelve 212 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: overture to try to get me out. But fortunately I 213 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: really liked that that music a lot. 214 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: And I imagine he had a sense of humor. He 215 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: did well that you might have obtained from him. 216 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: But also listen to Steve Martin records and Cheech and 217 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: Shawn records. You know, I still have all those. I 218 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: still have all those records. Yeah, very fond memories. 219 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: And as life comes full circle, you've recently become a grandfather. 220 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: Congratulations, thank you, thank you. Yeah, I'm just so excited, 221 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: so excited, and people to call me grandpa like it 222 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: it's an insult, but oh, hell no, it's a badge 223 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: of honor. I love it. 224 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: Boy or girl, A little girl, Emily, congratulations. I bet 225 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: it's full of so much energy that. 226 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: Yet. But yeah, she's very inquisitive. She's strong, you know, 227 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: you know, but I know, like you know, as soon 228 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: as she starts walking, she's gonna run, I'm sure. But 229 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: she's she's her eyes. She's very inquisitive, very you know, 230 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: she focuses on things, and yeah, I can't wait to 231 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see her again. 232 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: And I wonder what the conversation is going to be 233 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: like when you explain to her what you do for 234 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: a living. 235 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure she'll grow up just kind of being 236 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: used to it. You know, isn't everybody's grandpa do something similar, 237 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, when it's your grandpa. I know, with my kids, 238 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: what I was doing wasn't cool. You know, really, I 239 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: think they appreciate it more now than they did, you know, 240 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: coming out. It was just kind of what, you know, 241 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: what dad? Did? I know? My daughter, the one who 242 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: just had the baby, she didn't really think much of 243 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: my band until weird Al covered pretty Fly for a well, 244 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: Pretty Fly for a Rabbi. My daughter saw that. It 245 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: was like, Dad, weird Al covered one of your sons. 246 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: You're you're like in a real band, thank you? 247 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is funny. 248 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. And my son, you know, had a kind of 249 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: a you know, I think he appreciated what I do 250 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: a little bit more because he was a big fan 251 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: of He got into punk rock with a through a 252 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: friend of his. Really, then he started to realize, I 253 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: know these guys, like I know the guys in ts 254 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: so well, I know Dave Dictor from MDC, you know 255 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: some of the some of the bands he loved the most. 256 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: So it was kind of it was kind of cool. 257 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: So what for you? 258 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: Were the uh Or are still the the quintessential punk 259 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: albums of all time? 260 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: Well, the first two records that I ever heard. It 261 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: got me into punk rock. Where the Dicky White vinyl ep, 262 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: I think it was a promotional thing, and then never 263 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: mind the Bullets, the sex Pistols, and I was like 264 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: and they're both different. The Dickey's definitely had a sense 265 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: of humor, but also that raw energy and power, you know, 266 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: and in your face, you know, punk rock music. And 267 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: then you know, the Sex Pistols had a sort of 268 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: a dry, witty sense of humor and just tons of 269 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: just guts and viscera, you know, and they're playing and 270 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: I just love that. And that was the first time 271 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: I heard that. I was like, what is this? You know, 272 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: Like I said, I grew up with my dad's music 273 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more polished and pretty. You know, I 274 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: still still love that stuff, but this was just all 275 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: leaving on the floor, you know, bloodied and battered and bruised, 276 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: and and I loved that about about punk rock music. 277 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: Some of the some of the records of Ramona's first 278 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: record stayed on my turntable for a month. Tsol's Dance 279 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: with Me. So the TSL is a local Huntington Beach band, 280 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: Huntington Long Beach band, and h if it wasn't for TSOL, 281 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: I don't think there would be any offspring. That was 282 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: the band that tied us together the most. We all 283 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: we all love that band. 284 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: So described the first encounter with with Dexter Yeah, you 285 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: know what. 286 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: I always kind of known who he was. We grew 287 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: up in the same neighborhood. I was actually in boy 288 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: Scouts with his older brother. We were in the same 289 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: uh uh was a true pack and was a it 290 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: was the unit called I can't remember that. Yeah, we 291 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: were in the same little group, you know, within the 292 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: bigger troop and UH and so I just kind of 293 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: always knew of the Hollands. Our mothers did UH children's 294 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: theater together when we were really young. So I just 295 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: kind of always knew him, and then I met him. 296 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: I was playing drums with our original drummer, James Lilia, 297 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: who's now a oncological surgeon up in the in the 298 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: Santa Santa Cruz area, and Uh I was playing in 299 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: a band with James and and uh Dexter sat with 300 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: that band. It was called Clowns of Death. We stole 301 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: the name from That was oingele Boingo's undercover band name. 302 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: They would do shows built as the Clowns of Death. 303 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: Like when they would have a big show like US 304 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: Festival or cal Jam or whatever it was, they would 305 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: be on that stage and they would play as Clowns 306 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: of Death, you know, just in a small club as 307 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: a warm up gig, so we sold a name. I 308 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: was playing with James and then Dexter sat in and 309 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: I was like, oh cool, you know this I always 310 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: knew him was like the you know, straight a stude 311 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: and you know, brilliant guy. It didn't knowing what I 312 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: know about punk rock, it didn't surprise me he got 313 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: into punk rock, but you know, so we kind of 314 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: connected over that, and then he stole James from my 315 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: band and then eventually asked me to join what was 316 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: then Mannic Subsidaled and then would eventually become the offspring 317 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: shortly after. 318 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: Would you ever have imagined that he'd be flying you 319 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: guys back and forth to gigs and stuff like that. 320 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: No way, yeah, no way. I'm not surprised. You know 321 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: that he got his pilot's license and stuff. You know. 322 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he's such an overachiever. He really he's got 323 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: to be doing something at all times. I'm kind of 324 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: the opposite. I like doing nothing and just getting lost 325 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: and whatever I'm doing, he puts his He he sees something, 326 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: he sees a goal, and he aims for it and 327 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: he gets it done. He does not like leaving things unfinished. 328 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: That's why he went back and got his PhD recently. 329 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: You know, he couldn't leave that unfinished. I really do 330 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: admire that about him. He's one of the smartest people 331 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: I know. But when we started this, we never thought 332 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: we were going to be traveling the world ever, you know, 333 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: we we you know, we knew we wanted to get 334 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: in a van and just try to go places and 335 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, play for different people in different parts of 336 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: the country. But we never thought it would become what 337 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: it became. For ten years, it was driving in a 338 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: van and well first it was his Dexter's pickup truck, 339 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: going across country in his pickup truck, you know. And 340 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: then after ten years come out and play came out 341 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: as our third record, Smash, and then it things just 342 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: went from there. 343 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: Well you were saying, how you know, he's always got 344 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 3: to be overachieving and stuff like that, and and that's 345 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: how he balances his life. But you find balance in 346 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 3: interesting places. From the joy of fishing. 347 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: Fishing I always always have. Yeah, it's very you know, 348 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: it kind of takes me out of the out of 349 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: the world. I'm focusing on something's really pretty simple. You know, 350 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: if you know what you're doing it's it's really pretty simple. 351 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: It's takes a lot of patience, but that I don't know, 352 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: that's that kind of focus for somebody with ADHD. It's 353 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: surprising that I have the patience to do that the 354 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: way I do. But I do love it. Yeah. Plus, 355 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: it puts you in beautiful parts of the world. Being 356 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: out on a on a you know, a boat in 357 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: the middle of the ocean, or uh, you know, being 358 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: on a lake, or hiking along a stream in the 359 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: in the mountains. 360 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 3: I love. 361 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: I love getting out into the you know, into the 362 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: wilderness and forests or desert or you know, open ocean. 363 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: I love all that. 364 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 3: Well, the other wonderful juxtaposition and about you is your 365 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: bird watching. 366 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: I started doing that. Yeah, you know. I moved down 367 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: to h we moved down well here where we live 368 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: is is you know, by the beach, and I could 369 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: see the ocean, and I see these birds out there. 370 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm going, what is that? What is that? You know? 371 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: I've seen all these different different birds and and I 372 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: started just kind of trying to figure out what they were. 373 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: Look at them, all the shore birds. There's some wetlands 374 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: nearby where I all go hiking, and and you know 375 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: some really interesting birds. I decided, let's let's try to 376 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: figure out what those are. I'm a complete amateur. I'm 377 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 1: not very good at it at all, but I'm starting 378 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: to recognize some of my local birds, and I have 379 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: a bird app for when I travel. You know, we 380 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: were just in Iceland recently and I'm trying to figure 381 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: out what kind of birds where. They're just out on 382 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: a vacation with my with my wife and son. 383 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: Did you see anything odd there? 384 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: Bird was not really, you know, mostly just different kinds 385 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: of seagulls. Really, it's all yeah, you know, yeah, what. 386 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 3: A beautiful country. Huh, thank god, it really is. 387 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: It's really unique. You know, it's such a new geographical country. 388 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot like, there's not a whole 389 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: lot of mammals. I think the Arctic fox is really 390 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: the only the only native mammal there. You know. It's 391 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: mostly all about sheep, which for introduced, you know, sheep, 392 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: and then they have their own breed of horses also introduced, 393 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: but they've become their own breed. Of course. People love 394 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: the Icelandic horses for some reason. 395 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: One minute you think you're on Mars and the next 396 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: minute You're in a completely different terrain that looks like 397 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 3: it's almost out out west in New Mexico or something. 398 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: Right, it's in some of the volcanic hills kind of 399 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: remind you if the green ones remind you of Hawaii even, 400 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, because it's very volcanic like Hawaii, so geographically 401 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: it's it looks like that, only much much colder. 402 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more of the Taking a 403 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 404 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 3: You know you've meant you love how you see fans, 405 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 3: you know, bringing their kids to shows, and how the 406 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 3: band has you know, passed on to other generations. Just 407 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: talk about the feeling you get when you look out 408 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: and you see that in the audience. 409 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's super cool. You know, we and we do. 410 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: You know, we run into a lot of fans at 411 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: meeting greets or you know whatever. Sometimes I'll run into 412 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: them just at the local supermarket and it'll be both 413 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: the parents and the kids who are fans. Now. I know, 414 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: when Smash first came out, most fans would go, dude, 415 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: my mom hates you. I remember fans telling me that 416 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: I probably for songs like Bad Habit more than anything 417 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: you know, and now you see, you know, the parents 418 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: and kids both vibing out to our music. And I 419 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: think it's just a great feeling. It's it's super cool. 420 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: And I know how that is because, like I said earlier, 421 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: when when my son got into punk rock, he and 422 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: I were able to share that and could go to shows. 423 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: Now he's you know, he's twenty two and he's all 424 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: into still go to some shows together, but he's more 425 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: into his own own thing and and uh, but but 426 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: that time we had and you know, able to bond 427 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: over that was super special and so so I get 428 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: that and I love being able to be part of that. 429 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 3: For other people, you recalled the worst gig that you 430 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 3: ever played, and why was it the worst gig? 431 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were, we were. Uh. Fortunately we had two 432 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: gigs that night and were able to redeem ourself. The 433 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: first one was we got, uh, we got paid pretty 434 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: for us back then, pretty good money to play this 435 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: co op in Berkeley where a friend of ours was 436 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: going to school and he lived in this co op 437 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: and we played the dinner the dinner hour. I guess. 438 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: So all these you know, young college students are coming through, 439 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: clanking their plates and silverware and and getting food and 440 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: then sitting down and we're in the corner of this 441 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: cafeteria at this co op, trying to shred and play 442 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: and you know, all this loud punk rock stuff and 443 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: we still were weren't even as loud as the clinking 444 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: plates and silverware, and people are just sitting there looking 445 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: at us, eating their food. It was the most uncomfortable, 446 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: weirdest show we ever played. And unfortunately, right after that 447 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: we got to go play. I think it was Gilman Street. 448 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: It might have been a backyard party. I'm not sure. 449 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: It's around the same time. I think it was Gilman 450 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: Street and had a great show. Gilman Street was always fun. 451 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: Playing at Woodstock though was fairly nasty, wasn't it. 452 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was. I mean it was really an 453 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: inhospitable grounds to have any kind of concert, just no 454 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: and mother nature took a real dump on us with 455 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: the heat. You know, it was unusually warm and unusually hot. 456 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: Eight dollars bottles of water and we could just feel that. 457 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: We played on the first day and you could kind 458 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: of feel the tension building. Even then. You know, we 459 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: knew that this could go and get really ugly, really quickly. 460 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: What was that gag, the trash gag that you guys 461 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: would do? 462 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, we we did that. I think the 463 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: first first time we did it was at a local 464 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: amphitheater we played it might have been the Weenie Roast 465 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: or somebody was like one of the first times we 466 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: played there, and Dexter says, you know, it's getting pretty 467 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: messy out there. Why don't you guys take all that 468 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: trash around you and throw it up here and we'll 469 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: take care of it for you. You know. It's like 470 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: right before the encore. So they started, you know, throwing 471 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: this and I thought, this is really funny. And then 472 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: I realized both my parents are out in the audience. 473 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: Dexter's moms out in the audience, my daughter, who I 474 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: think it was six years old at the time, was 475 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: out in the audience. But nobody got hurt. It was funny. 476 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: It was a funny gag, and we got away with it, 477 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: and I think we did it, I don't know, three 478 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: or four more times. But then in Chicago it got 479 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: real ugly and people started picking up full on trash 480 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: cans and throwing them at each other, and somebody got 481 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: hurt by hitting somebody threw a trash can on him, 482 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: and so we had to stop doing that that gag. 483 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: I think we might have upset the Chili Peppers too 484 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: one night, because we did it right before they were 485 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: on after us, and their crew wasn't wasn't too happy. 486 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: So we went and we apologized. You know, we certainly 487 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: didn't mean to cause them any any trouble. We're fans 488 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: of the Peppers. Oops right, yeah, yeah, are bad. They 489 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: were they were what they were gracious about it. 490 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 3: You know, what do you think the state of the 491 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: punk scene is now? 492 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: You know, there's still well, gosh, I think it's stronger 493 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: than it ever has been. I mean last year we 494 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: played though when we were young festival, I know, they 495 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: just had it again and we're slated to play it 496 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: again next year. So that's that's more like nineties and 497 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: early two thousands, you know punk bands and emo bands 498 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: and all the you know the Warp Tour kind of 499 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: you know era punk bands. But if you go to clubs, 500 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: there's still young punk bands that sound like bands we 501 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: were playing with thirty five forty years ago, and it's 502 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: it's really varied. My son plays in a band and 503 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: they're called the grin and I go see their shows 504 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: and I see a lot of bands that they're playing 505 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: with that sounded like bands we played with thirty forty 506 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: years ago. It's kind of cool. You know, they'll add 507 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, new elements and different elements. You hear a 508 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: lot more kind of hip hop and I guess chechno, 509 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, infused you know, elements to the to the 510 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: punk music. But it's still it's still happening. I think 511 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: it's I think it's rad. 512 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 3: Are you familiar with the recent kurfluffle that occurred with 513 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 3: Green Day where they were talking about Las Vegas in 514 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: a disparaging way? Did you Did you pick up on 515 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: this story at all? 516 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: No, I'm not familiar with it. 517 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: I think what the the essence of it was. You know, 518 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 3: they were out in you know, San Francisco Bay area 519 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: and they were talking about the departure of certain sports 520 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 3: teams ultimately you know, moving to Vegas, and they weren't 521 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: too they weren't too thrilled with it, nonetheless, and they 522 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: you know, said some things about Las Vegas, right, and 523 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden you have a couple of 524 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: radio stations thinking it would be a cool stunt to 525 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: ban Green Day, you know, because of their comments. Right, 526 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: I heard about this, and I'm thinking, wait, isn't that 527 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: the essence of punk? 528 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, I know, yeah, totally. Yeah, I'm trying to 529 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: cancel Green Day. That might work for a minute, but 530 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna I don't think that's gonna 531 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: last too long. It's not gonna work. 532 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: Right, So let's talk about super Charged. Talk about, first 533 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 3: of all, the creative process, how this all came together, 534 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 3: how you know, much fun it was putting it together, 535 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 3: and maybe highlight a couple of your favorite tracks off 536 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: of it. 537 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, we you know, we well, gosh, we 538 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: just came out of the pandemic and uh, you know 539 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: the pandemic. We learned a lot during the pandemic. We 540 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: we learned that we really miss playing live shows when 541 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: it's taken away from us. We missed it so much 542 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: that we we went in the studio and actually rehearsed. 543 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: We went back and looked at every song that we played, 544 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: and even songs that we don't play that often, and 545 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: and tried to make sure we were all playing them 546 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: together in time, because over thirty years, you'll develop bad 547 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: habits and you won't even realize, you know, where you're 548 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: just kind of coming in a little bit late on 549 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: this one part where you're strumming is like, you know, 550 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: me and Dexter won't be strumming the exact same thing, 551 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: and it gets a little sloppy there. And so we 552 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: went over all of that mostly with me, Todd and 553 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: Jonah in the studio. Pete wasn't wasn't really well the 554 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: time he lived out of town and it was before 555 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: Brandon joined, So it'd be me, Todd, and Jonah in 556 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: there just making sure everything's locked in, especially the guitar parts. 557 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: You know, there's certain things where you want it sloppy. 558 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: Not sloppy, but it can be a little bit looser. 559 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: That adds to the energy. But if you know, there's 560 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: a lot of times too where if you're not together 561 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: on a really heavy, you know, rhythmic art, it takes 562 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: away from the energy. It really does kind of kind 563 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: of muddled, muddies it all up. So we just kind 564 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: of spent a lot of time going over all that 565 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: and had a really fun time doing it. We'd go 566 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: into the studio and work on a few songs, working 567 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: on our backing vocals too, making sure somebody's covering each harmony. 568 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. Gosh, I went way 569 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: back into this, didn't I. So that's good. 570 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: No, it's good. 571 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. And we you know, we released Let the Bad 572 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: Times Role. Was pretty much done at that point and uh, 573 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: and we didn't get to tour on it until things 574 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: started opening up and then we went back out you know, 575 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: on tour. We had Josh Freeze on drums at that 576 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: point and uh, and just started kicking ass. I mean, 577 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: it just really felt really good. We we had really 578 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: done our homework and got everything tightened up. Josh added 579 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: a lot and uh, and then you know, we wanted 580 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: to keep this going that we when we did Let 581 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: the Bad Times Role, it was nine years in between records, 582 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: and we didn't want that time to go by. But 583 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: also right before that, like the last year of making 584 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: that record, last year and a half two years was 585 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: really a creative time for us. Most of the songs 586 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: on Let the Bad Times Role happened within that two 587 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: year period, you know, And so then we just kind 588 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: of felt that once we finished touring, well, even while 589 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: we were touring on Let the Bad Times Role, we 590 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: started going in the studio the way we do it 591 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: now is we'll go into the studio for like two 592 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: weeks at a time, and Bob will fly out. He 593 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: usually he lives in Hawaii. He also spends a lot 594 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: of time in Vancouver, so either he would fly out here, 595 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: wo'd fly to Hawaii or Vancouver and meet up for 596 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: a week to two weeks and we just work on, 597 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, various songs and you try to get a 598 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: song close to being done in that time. You know, 599 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: a lot of times if things are tough and it's 600 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: going slow, you'll shelve it and then go on to 601 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: something else, you know, and see how that works. And 602 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: then you know, kind of bounce around and within like 603 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: two years of working or you know, whatever it took, 604 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: we were we knew we were done. And then the 605 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: record said, well, if you finish it by April of 606 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: this year, we could have it out. And we're like, 607 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: we can do that. And so I think we had 608 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: to come up with the last two songs. Really everything 609 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: else was pretty much done and it just really kind 610 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: of kind of came together and fell into pieces. Working 611 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: with Bob's great Bob Rocker producers is just phenomenal. He's 612 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: like he's like an older brother. He's like a friend, 613 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: a mentor. You know, we just have a really great relationship. 614 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: We love his ideas, his his you know, feelings and 615 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: beliefs about music and what makes good music, you know, 616 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: really resonate with us. And I mean we have a 617 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: good time. 618 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: I think this is amazing and so cool. That make 619 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: it all? 620 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: Right? 621 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: Hit number one both on the Alt Airplay and the 622 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: Active Rock Airplay charts, That's that's freaking cool as hell. 623 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: I think that's the first for us. I don't think 624 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: we've ever had an number one on both those charts 625 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: at the same time. So yeah, that is that is 626 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: really cool. I mean it's a different world now than 627 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: than it was, you know, than it has been in 628 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: the past. But still I'll take it. 629 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 3: Well, but I have to say, as somebody who throughout 630 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 3: my career, uh you know, helped manage some some mainstream 631 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 3: rock stations, I mean, you guys were kind of saviors 632 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 3: for that format as well. I mean I have to 633 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: thank you for that because with the stations that I 634 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: was part of, like w r I F and Detroit 635 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 3: or w MMR and Philadelphia, you know, you guys were 636 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 3: like a lifeblood for us. 637 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: Well, well, thank you. I don't know if I can, 638 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, take on that, but but you thank you. 639 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: You know, we've always well, I mean, grew up listening 640 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: to radio. It's it means a lot to us. We 641 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: still visit. We just hung out with Pierre at MMR 642 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: a couple of months, a month and a half ago, 643 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, the the mmrbecue. Yeah yeah, so, you know, 644 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: thank you for that. That's very kind, kind words and 645 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. 646 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: And then congratulations on the Spotify Billions club as well. 647 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: My god, that's so thank you. 648 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's kind of hard to wrap 649 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: your head around, Matt, you know, a billion a billion listens. 650 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: You know, I think only we only need to hit 651 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: like seven billion more people and we've hit the whole world, 652 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: right something like that. Yeah, I think kids aren't all right? 653 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: Is hot on its heels. I think at the end 654 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: of the year that one should hit a billion. 655 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: And I want to talk about these amazing events that 656 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: occurred where you guys were playing and were joined by 657 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 3: some some special some special guests. 658 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: Amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 659 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 3: So let's first talk about the Ed Sheer and experience. 660 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: What was that like? 661 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Amazing? You know, he is just such a natural, 662 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: you know at it, or seems to be such a 663 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: natural ad I know he puts a lot of work 664 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: into what he does, but he's just phenomenal. I really 665 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: like some of his singer songwriter stuff, songs like the 666 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: Boat or the Castle on the Hill. You know, I 667 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: really do like some of that stuff. When I saw 668 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: that we were playing with him, I sent off an 669 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: email and said, let's reach out. Let's see if he 670 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: wants to sit in with us, you know, million in 671 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: one shot. Thinking. You know, I knew that he was 672 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: a fan early on. The first record he ever bought 673 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: was Conspiracy of One his aunt gave him. He told 674 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: us the story when we met. His aunt gave him 675 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: ten pounds for Christmas or his birthday or something, and 676 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: he went out and bought Conspiracy of One. It was 677 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: his first record. And he used to to pretend to 678 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: sing and play million Miles Away in front of the mirror. 679 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: And so he came out and did that song with 680 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: us and hit it out of the park. He sent 681 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: me a demo of him singing, just playing acoustic guitar 682 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: and singing. He tuned it down another half a step 683 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: and I went, oh, this is going to be amazing, 684 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: and he came out it was phenomenal. It was just 685 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: so much funny. It's the nicest guy in the world too. 686 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: He really is very down to earth guy for somebody 687 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: as successful as he is. 688 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 3: And then there was the collaboration with with young Blood. Yeah, 689 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 3: what was that like, We just. 690 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: Had to get out of his way. That guy's got 691 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: so much energy. He really is, Dexter joked about. You know, 692 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: that's the best hype man you could have. He came 693 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: out just getting the crowd going from the get go. 694 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: He's got a great voice, great personality, great energy. I mean, 695 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: you know, it was really hard to keep up with him. 696 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: He's such a ball of fire and also just a 697 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: really really nice guy. Had a lot of fun hanging 698 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: with him as well. 699 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 3: And then there's the Brian May experience. Tell me about that. 700 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: Well, that was the one that just, you know, blew 701 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: my mind the most because we've known, I mean, I've 702 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: known Brian May for as long as I've known music existed, 703 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, a big Queen fan. You know, even when 704 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: I got into punk rock and kind of stopped listening 705 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: to a lot of the more bigger rock bands, Queen 706 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: was still kind of cool because there was something edgy 707 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: and punk rock about about Queen. You know, I don't know, 708 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: maybe it's just Freddie's style, uh, you know, Brian's guitar, 709 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: the drums, and I don't know what it is, but 710 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: there was something kind of kind of punk about some 711 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: of what they did as well. So yeah, that was 712 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: just mind blowing. We uh, we wanted to do. Dexter 713 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: knew about this festival that Brian does with a friend 714 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: of his, Garrick Israelian, called star MOUs and it's it's 715 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: uh physicists and musicians, you know, and and astronomers, you know, 716 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: like stars and music, astronomy and music, and and we 717 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: wanted to do it. We just asked. So we kind 718 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: of begged to let us play. You know, they don't 719 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: have a big music budget. We only go out and 720 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: play one concert. You know, it's not very big. So 721 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: we begged and they let us do it. And then 722 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: we we it Brian up to play with us. He 723 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: or he does. He wanted to come out and do 724 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: gone U Gone Away with us with the the Slovakian 725 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: National Symphony. And then and then Dexter said, Brian, will 726 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: you do Stone called Crazy with us? And he agreed. 727 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: You know, he says he doesn't get to play that 728 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: much with with the current you know, uh, carnation of 729 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: the Bear, incarnation of the band. So so it was 730 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: just phenomenal. I mean our minds were literally blown hanging 731 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: out with this legend, absolute legend, and and playing with him, 732 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, sharing music, sharing, you know, licks back and forth. 733 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: Just incredible. 734 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 3: What awesome, awesome experience. Is there anybody on a on 735 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 3: a dream list that you haven't played with that maybe 736 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 3: the next time we you know, who. 737 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: Knows, gosh, any in the Rolling Stones would be a blast. 738 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: There's so many, so many heroes out there, it's hard 739 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: to focus on just one or two. 740 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a good one, that's for sure. 741 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 742 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 3: Well, in closing, what would be in a tremendous surprise 743 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 3: to your fans that is on your playlist of music 744 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 3: that maybe they wouldn't expect that you'd be listening to. 745 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, yeah, I'm trying to you know, there's some 746 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 4: pop stuff that I that I do listen to that 747 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 4: I guess maybe people wouldn't think I love it here 748 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 4: And you know, I've been listening to you more and 749 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 4: more since since. 750 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 1: We met and stuff too. I love Billie Eilish, especially 751 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: like she did an EP of acoustic songs. Those songs 752 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: just make me weak. They're so good. I like Billy 753 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: Eilish a lot. She's great. There's a band out of 754 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: San Diego called Steam Power Giraffe and they started they 755 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: would just kind of busk at like a local theme 756 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: park down there, a park and they're great, very theatrical. 757 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: I like them a lot. Stuff like that. 758 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 3: I guess, well, I have to tell you this is 759 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 3: one of these moments where I have to just say 760 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 3: how grateful I am for what I'm doing, because I 761 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 3: had the opportunity to speak with you today to hear 762 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 3: about your work, your life, and your your passion for 763 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 3: it all and your honesty. And I'm so grateful Noodles 764 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 3: that you took the time to be on taking a walk. 765 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: Well, well, thank you, it's been you know, it's been 766 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: my pleasure you You really kind of got deep into 767 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: some things and I appreciate that this was a good conversation. 768 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 3: Thank you for being on, and thank you for all 769 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 3: the music you continue to give us. 770 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for your time, Buds, I appreciate it. 771 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to this episode. Of the Taking a 772 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: Walk podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends 773 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 2: and follow us so you never miss an episode. 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