1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to step 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: I've never told you protection by her radio, and welcome 3 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: to another episode of our watch party of Sex in 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: the City, where we try to go through every single 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: episode all how many did you say? There is episodes? 6 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: And then and just like that, I bet we're gonna 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: come back to it because there's did you see the 8 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: new headlines for this Aiden? Yeah, so Aidan is back. 9 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Oh well, I haven't met him. You haven't seen him yet, 10 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: and people have strong feelings about being teammate in Team 11 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Big and then Team Russian. You haven't met the Russian either. 12 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I haven't. I knew. I knew about 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: Aiden even though I haven't watched the show. I knew 14 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: that there was like a big slash Aiden vide with 15 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: who carry ended up with. Yes, there was a whole conversation. 16 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: But we're not there yet. We're still at a Big 17 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: yeah pretty earlier. Yes we are at season two, episode 18 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: eight for those who are catching up. But yes, this 19 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: is a part of our happy Hour slash Thursday throwback 20 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: because this is a throwback of the nineties series early 21 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: two thousand's but um, but yes, we are having our 22 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: watch party. We are still doing the listener participation one 23 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: at the end of this season with your name. Then. 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: I know y'all are tired of hearing us repeat that 25 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: because we've been teasing about this, But it is happening, y'all. 26 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: It is happening, and I think after this we'll have 27 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: a better we'll be able to schedule these better because 28 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: we do want to do more than one. But it 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: was just kind of the holidays and then figure out 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: the technology and all the technology. Yes, we're still having 31 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: a conversation about that because trying to view it together 32 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: at the same time can't get complicated, especially if you're 33 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: not a podcaster and you don't know how to do that. 34 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: It's the whole thing. So we're confident. Christina is amazing 35 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: and we're confident will work. But just know, like we apologize, 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: it's taken so long, but we promise it is coming. 37 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: And I think after this we'll have a better system 38 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: in place. Yes, yes, because we do want guests. We've 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: already had Bridget, We've had producer Christina, we will probably 40 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: have a friend guest too, and then other people from 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: other shows. We're gonna do things. Things are happening yes, 42 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: and listening participation as well, because you all seem to 43 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: really enjoy this. But before we start, as we said, 44 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of a happy hour because of this when 45 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: you're talking about sex or the city. Yeah, we we 46 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: kind of make it a girl's night like happy hour moment. 47 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: So before we start, we're not being sponsored by whatever 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: product we're talking about. I don't think we're saying the 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: name brands, and just in case if we do ever 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: do that, and then that might change, you never know, 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: dynamic advertising, yep. And then also be responsible and whatever 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: you're doing, including the fact that you're listening around children. 53 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: We are talking about adult content, yeah perhaps and maturely sometimes. Yeah, 54 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: so you know, be aware. But yeah, which is what 55 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: you said, been known well, you know, we like to 56 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: give you these peak behind the curtains. Smith and I 57 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: are currently recording together together from our very fancy, almost 58 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: falling apart sportscaster desk. Don't judge me and we I 59 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: think we're going to post a video of it soon. Yeah, 60 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: you need to know what our setup is. True, not 61 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: right now, because y'all we watched the last one last 62 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: day and I am flying high, but I do not 63 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: look good. For video. But so my point being from 64 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: the last Sex in the City episode we did to 65 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: this one is the same recording session. So I'm still 66 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: drinking from the prosecco that you kindly bought, purchased and 67 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: I poured myself. But you've heard the first one, so 68 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: I did. I was trying to be nice host, a 69 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: good host, also drinking the same cheery and prosecco and 70 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: little bit of a gove um with my bubble water. 71 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: I always had a bubble of water. Okay, So we're 72 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: gonna do the wrap up from previous which you got 73 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: the D minus people was justice, So give us a 74 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: wrap up. Okay. So I feel like at this point, uh, 75 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: Carrie and Bigger back together and that's like the main 76 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: storyline that's happening. After they broke up at the season 77 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: finale of the first season and they had sort of 78 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't a d t R, but it was what 79 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: you called it, come to Jesus where she was curious 80 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: as like too soft word, but she she wanted to 81 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: know what their relationship means after he kind of put 82 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,119 Speaker 1: out these signals that he didn't want to be maybe 83 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: associated with her as a couple publicly as much as 84 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: she did, and they had to revisit that conversation. We 85 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: had a lot of you interesting things around marriage with 86 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: all four of them, like why do you get married? 87 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: Because Samantha was like, I guess I gotta marry this 88 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: guy because we had sex. And then Charlotte met this 89 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: guy and then had sex with him and then was 90 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: gonna get married with him, and then her father, his 91 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: father coughed to feel and then Miranda thought she was 92 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: going to marry this guy or at least date him, 93 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: and then he married somebody else immediately. So a lot 94 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: of conversation about marriage and relationships, as per usual. But 95 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: I still think the main thing that's going on here 96 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: is like what is happening with Carrie and Big Okay? 97 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: All right, yes it is. I'm trying to remember, all right, 98 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm about to tell you the title, and I usually 99 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: try to say to you, I think we're going to 100 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: have a big character, a reoccurring character. This one, okay, 101 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: is either this one of the next one. And I'm 102 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: trying to remember because it's been a minute because they 103 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: all blurre together. Because I just watched the marathon running, 104 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we're about to get you're about to 105 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: get in reduced to a significant character being the plot 106 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: lines ahead, but the title, for your consideration, The Man, 107 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: the Myth, the Hiagra. Oh god, So what is your 108 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: prediction for this episode? What do you think it's about? Rather, 109 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: I'm so bad at this. Okay. I think that there's 110 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a man who's well known for having sex, 111 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: and then it turns out he has to have viagrady. 112 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: Is not good. Okay, Okay, that's what I have. Uh yeah, okay, okay, good, Okay, 113 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you have it. But but yes, I 114 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: am almost positive we're about to meet a significant character 115 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: in this one, aid, no, but it's like that. Also, 116 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: we're going to have a cameo of an unwelcome guest. 117 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that. You think it is Donald Trump? 118 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: Oh no? So yeah, here we go Episode eight. Lets 119 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: get started, Carrie, this is the Gangster I was telling 120 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: you about. No, no, no, so many ideas about Italians immediately, Yeah, 121 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: to our Italian listeners, we don't hold it that. We're 122 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: so sorry. I think the first time I went to 123 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: New York is I went to a small Italian restaurant. 124 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: I looked exactly like this, yeah, and that's when I 125 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: had my food gasm. Oh really. So we have a 126 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: restaurant here called Ninos and that has this aesthetic. Yeah, 127 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: and it's like he's been around for years and people 128 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: talk about that as best Italian in Atlanta, and I'm 129 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: pretty sure it's the old school Italian style. The waiters 130 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: are all older. That's um. But here we need to 131 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: have a significant moment because Carrie is introduced by Big 132 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: two friends quote unquote as his girlfriend, and she's like, 133 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: you've never called me your girlfriend before that title. Actually 134 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: I remember the exact moment my partner and he knew 135 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: the exact moment when he first referred to me as girlfriend, 136 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, excuse me, why is that such 137 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: a significance the title is. It's also interesting in our 138 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: new like era because me and my excusive not fight, 139 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: but he'd kind of be like, you've never said anything 140 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: on Facebook that you're didn't change your status? Like I 141 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: hate Facebook, so like I'm not going to do that. 142 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: The labels and one time he I feel bad about 143 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: the still but he asked me like, can I introduce 144 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: you as my girlfriend to my friends? And I started 145 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: to crying reaction ego. That's an interesting reaction, but it 146 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: does feel like it it's heavy, it's well even to 147 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: this day, like and we've kind of talked about this 148 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: and it comes back into the queer space. But this 149 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: level of like being called girlfriend at my age feels 150 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: really childish um an age, Like it doesn't age well 151 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: to me. So it's not because I want to be married. 152 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to be. The idea of being called 153 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: wife either really kind of like makes me have a 154 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: panic attack. But like partner, I use it, and I 155 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: know people will get like really into deep discussions about 156 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: this was made for queer relationships, because queer relationships you 157 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: couldn't say that, So that's the best way to do 158 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: that for them. Now we're are we appropriating that from 159 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: the queer community. But I'm like, but I feel too 160 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: old because it it's not just he's my boyfriend, right, 161 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: it just sounds immature, right, it sounds very high school. 162 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: And if that's cool, that's the thing that you resonate with, 163 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: that's totally fine. But I get you. It does sound 164 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: like it sounds like not as serious. Yeah, yeah, because 165 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: we're more than just high school relationship. Like it's not 166 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: like we we shared bond over all things like if 167 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: I die, he's getting part of that. If I get 168 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: murdered suspiciously, just like it was No, it wasn't, but 169 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: like he's like a beneficiary because they're that. I'm sorry. 170 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: His date can't speak right now? Who can I say? 171 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: Is calling? Now? We're moving on to the really bad 172 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: stand up comedy. Miranda's on a date and turns out 173 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: he's married. Yeah, and it was the comedian used it 174 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: publicly to make a joke, which I've seen many of times, 175 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: and I hate that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And this is 176 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: why I B two in comedy industry is important. Yes, 177 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: because he just said something very friendsive to Miranda's she 178 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: was trying to leave. I hate that. Yeah, it's not funny, 179 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: it's not it's not you're just really really killing someone. Wise, 180 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: Why do you doing this? Because you can't think of 181 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 1: any jokes. You're not funny at all. Samantha a Cosmopolitan 182 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump, You're right here is the cameo of 183 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: Evan Donald Trump. They mustn't know. They must have been 184 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: like they must have been recording in this hotel or 185 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: near his hotel. Required yeah, to appear in it. That's 186 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: why he's a home alone too. Yeah, and many beauty. 187 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: I think I just de financed Mr Trump's new cron 188 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: checked you owe me a oh, this is all the 189 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: moment you much should have told him Donald tum is 190 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: gonna fall bankrupt, so you're not getting your money back. 191 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: She's been hit on by this very old rich man 192 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: who just invested in Donald Trump's property whatever project. It 193 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: is quite strange. This is nowhere near the same level. 194 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: The first time I went to Dragon Con, this older 195 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: guy like this really older and I was in college, 196 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: came up to me and he bought me these drinks 197 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: and he acted as if, well, okay, this is now 198 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: we have to go to my hotel room and have sex. 199 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: And I was like, you bought me like three course lights. 200 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: And I understand that he's expensive at a hotel, but 201 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: but go away. Samantha had learned that Ed was single, 202 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: available and a millionaire many many times over. What's your 203 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: age ceiling? With men? So they're asking how old would 204 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: you go? How old would you go for either any 205 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: of these? You know, I think when I was younger, 206 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: I would have given you a much wider age gap. 207 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: But now I'm so like I've seen so many terrible things. 208 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: And we've talked about this too. I feel strange about 209 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: it because if you're in consensual relationship and you understand, 210 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: but to me, there's just so many differences between being 211 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: like twenty and forty, Like me at twenty versus me 212 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: now is not the same person, did not understand the 213 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: same things. So I don't think I would do a 214 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: massive age gap, right, well, that that's that level of 215 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: like eight and is significant significant, especially when you're younger, 216 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: that it really matters, even though now like it wouldn't 217 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: like forty two not so significant, right, Yeah, I do 218 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: think it's different than but it's still like maturity. I've 219 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: seen so many older men, Yeah, who are just I'm like, 220 00:13:52,080 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: why do you keep going for the younger women? Thank you, Steve, 221 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: Thank you Steve. So we are introduced to Steve's that's Steve. 222 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: This is an introduction of Steve. Steve. I love Steve. 223 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: We've already talked about and just like that and the 224 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: disappointments of it, just like that. Um, but obviously he's 225 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: a significant part of the story. But he is endearing. Yeah, 226 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: on the days they treated him dirty, like I get 227 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: what they were trying to do. And things fall apart. 228 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: We talked about this. This happens. You just stop falling 229 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: in love or you don't realize who you are and 230 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: you have to define yourself. That's fine, but they did 231 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: Steve dirty. Yeah, Oh, so Samantha is having fancy dinner 232 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: with made essentially so she's getting showered with all these diamonds, 233 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: and the staff like worst. So I never told you this. 234 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: The old job. When I first graduated from college, I 235 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: worked at you know this part Department of Family and 236 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: Children's Services. I was an investigator of child abuse and 237 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: I did all that. There was a dude who was 238 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: a therapist. I was early twenties, he was late forties 239 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: hit on me and I was so stunned. He was 240 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: a good looking man, but he was significant older, had 241 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: gone their divorce, had teenage kids who were close to 242 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: my age. I had talked. I was so shocked because 243 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: I had never been hit on like that. I was like, 244 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: what is happening that. I went to a coworker who 245 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: was closer to his age and I was like, this 246 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: person hit on me. Do you know anything about him? 247 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: Is this a thing he does? And she got mad 248 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: at me because someone her age had been hitting on me, 249 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: and I think she had seen him, and it turned 250 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: out he did. He did hurt it on at a 251 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: younger women, but she didn't know that. Like she talked 252 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: to someone else about it and they're like, oh, you 253 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: don't mean to And I didn't know this, but like 254 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: it was such a significant like I didn't know what 255 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: to do because I thought, kind of like how we 256 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: talked about grooming, young children don't know that they're being 257 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: groom because they feel like they should be thankful that 258 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: they're being noticed by a man, right, But that's what 259 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: it was. But it was such a weird reaction that 260 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: I had from everyone that I felt like a bad person. Yeah. Yeah, 261 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: And I kind of like something you said in a 262 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: recent episode that kind of stuck with me is like 263 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: when you're giving a gift and it's about someone else 264 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: and you said ling and it's so true. And I 265 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: feel like in this like where he's giving her all 266 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: these diamonds, he likes to see his money, his things 267 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: on her. That's kind of an ownership to that well 268 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: for her to like, No, I found that interesting that 269 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: the aspect of that. Of course, I didn't go on 270 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: the date with him because I realized this was happening, 271 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: and looking back, I was like, that was really inappropriate 272 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: because he asked me out on my work phone. He 273 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: didn't have any of my personal information. He called me 274 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: to ask me out, and I thought we were talking. 275 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: I was being very kind because I thought we were 276 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: doing this, and it was shocked me because me, especially 277 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: out of college, and I'm not I wasn't very you know, 278 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: I wasn't dating a lot, so to me in my 279 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: low self esteem. He didn't know. I don't Maybe he did. 280 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I was so like, yeah, almost, 281 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: I was flattered, but I was worried and scared, and 282 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, what did I do? Like all these things, 283 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: but I didn't realized. I'm looking back like that was 284 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: super inappropriate. We were supposed to talk by client. You 285 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: called me on the phone to talk to me about 286 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: taking me out, and then he's been hadn't been flirting 287 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: with me with that. I thought we were just coworkers, right. 288 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: I think you're an easy lay and I'd like to 289 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: have sex again. No, it's not like that. Have dinner 290 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: with me? Why, I don't know, because we're hungry. I 291 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: can't have dinner with you. I don't even know you. 292 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: You slept with me. It's a different thing. Sam's run 293 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: away and bartender Steve has come to trying to take 294 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: Miranda out, and she said, you slept with me. We 295 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: don't know each other. Different things. Yeah, that's true. I 296 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: feel like I have a lot of like really funny 297 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: round coom stories, even though I'm like not into that. 298 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: But once I had something like this happened where two 299 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: guys who were interested in me and I didn't know it. 300 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: We're like, when are you going to this? Are you 301 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: going to sing? And all my friends were there and 302 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: they both showed up. It was the most awkward ye ever. 303 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: And then they both refused to leave, and I was like, 304 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: I gotta go home on fire you But if I 305 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: don't go, I've been out all day, it's gonna rain. 306 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: But my friends are expecting you. But oh Big is 307 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: backing up. He promised and he's backing out. He does 308 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: seem like he constantly does this. Yeah, And by the way, 309 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: because I definitely have seen it with friends where the 310 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: guy or the partner keep backing out and I'm like, 311 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to hang out with it, like it 312 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: feels offensive because it feels like they're personally don't want 313 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: to hang out with us, or they don't like us 314 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: or something. He's hiding something. He's hiding something. Yeah, and like, 315 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm all for it. If you know I'm not into it, 316 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: that's not I'm tired. But if you keep doing it, 317 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: if it's constantly that you just can't come out, like dude, 318 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: really like your girlfriend or your partner wants to come out, 319 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: why won't you? And this is important if you care 320 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: about your friends introducing somebody to the group, that's a 321 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: big thing. Right, I'm not sure he's coming from work. 322 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: I didn't have the strength to tell them about my 323 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: fallen hero, at least not without a cocktail. Oh so 324 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: she has to explain why fix not there? But here's Steve. 325 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm bringing the cocktail and if you want to go 326 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: home with one, Oh, Miranda, no, Wow, everybody is filling awkward. 327 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: What is this called? There's a there's a term for 328 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: this when you make a joke that you know is 329 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: like it's funny, but it's just going to make people mad, 330 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: like somebody mad passive aggressive, right, I think so it's not. 331 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: It's different than what we were talking about earlier, where 332 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: it's just like racist or six. And this is like 333 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: something where you're like, this is very, very funny, but 334 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: it's just going to hurt a friend that you know, 335 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm making fun of yourself a friend she does seem 336 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: to hostile. This is why I'm like, they really did 337 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: her dirty, because she's not wrong. Yeah, I think I 338 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: got I think we got distracted earlier. But I think 339 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: the conversation has shifted from where Miranda was painted us 340 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: for the villain of like, Okrrie didn't show up and 341 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: I'm mad, and she's the villain because she's mad because 342 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: the hetero romantic relationship is more important, I think, and 343 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that shifted, and now the friendship 344 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: would be more like the thing you should focus on, 345 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: and she would not be the villain anymore, would not. 346 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: She would be the hero because of her job and 347 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: her independence and her ability to see through things. Of 348 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: course she's too cold, like that's also but that's also 349 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: true that oftentimes happens with a leading lady not being 350 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: like overly available, but like being closed off. Now, yes, 351 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: because you have to be too focused, but then like 352 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: that's your downfall or whatever. Yea, So we have a 353 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: big looking like a hero because it showed up, showed 354 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: up here. Um, and we meet Steve, which is a 355 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: significant character throughout the entire series. You get a full 356 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: thumbs up for the Donald Trump. I did feel like 357 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: I heavily hinted, Like I couldn't not heavily hint because 358 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: I can't be like it's you're going to be excited. 359 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: You're not going to be excited. So I'll at least 360 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: give you two out of five stars. I will let 361 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: but everything else is real off, real off. There's nobody 362 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: I technically, Steve did have good sex, but he did 363 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: not have viagra. Yeah, where was the viagra? The dude, 364 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: the old man, the reason he went to the back 365 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: just to get a viagra. Okay, okay, but she ran 366 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: away before he got that viagra with all the diamonds 367 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: though she Yeah, I mean she made some money. Um, 368 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, that was the thing. So the myth is 369 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: obviously the story. The man would be big, I believe, 370 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: and then the headground would be the old dude. M yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 371 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: So this was very much centered on the three of them. 372 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: Charlotte was kind of in the background for this one, 373 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: which is surprising. But yeah, so we have Steve coming 374 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: into the cast now and we have now met adorable 375 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: bartender Steve m I like Steve Um because I've only 376 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: seen him in because I have watched and just like that, 377 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: which is kind of the it's not a reboot, but 378 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: like the follow up series to Sex and the City, 379 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: and so that's the only way I've known him. Uh, 380 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: what usually watch one movie, right, I haven't seen a movie. 381 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: I've seen like three episodes. Okay, okay, you didn't see 382 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: the movie. No, I went to go see Oh that's right, 383 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: my friends to see Friends went to the Night, which 384 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: is I think pretty telling of who I am. Yeah. Yeah, 385 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: So here we have all that conversation. This was a 386 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: little more like up beat episode in kind of that, 387 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: although I did talk about being hit on by an 388 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: older man and there's definably wrong with dating older men. 389 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: But it was very obvious that I was in experienced, 390 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: Like we were at a workplace, we were like working 391 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: together for children, like all of those things was so 392 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: like off putting. And he was probably one of the 393 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: best therapists that I've seen because he's been in it 394 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: for a while and it's very gentle with the kids. 395 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: So that after that was like do I talk to him? 396 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: And I am an avoidant person, so I'm never talking 397 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: to you again. But I couldn't because he was one 398 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: of the best therapists, so I had to use him, right. 399 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: It was interesting. It's unfortunate. I feel like a lot 400 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: of the things we've watched from like I don't know, 401 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: the nineties or eighties, we've had this conversation where it 402 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: was just so normalized that men would do that at work, 403 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: and now it wouldn't work, like we were talking about 404 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: with Bridget Jones's diary, Like that doesn't read us funny 405 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: anymore because we were finally having these conversations. But for 406 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: so many of us, that is an experience we've had. 407 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: I remember once I had a like higher higher up 408 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: when I was an intern, basically asked me to his 409 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 1: home when he had a wife and kids and another 410 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: employee who I think to this day. She showed up 411 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: and like diverted the conversation got me out of the situation. 412 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: But it was just kind of like, yeah, that's how 413 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: it is. It's understood, and I hate that it's true. 414 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: We talked about that all the time, Like I love 415 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: that she saw that I was in a situation got 416 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: me out of it was like, no, here we go. 417 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: But I hate that that's a thing. That's the thing 418 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: that we have to be aware of as for me, 419 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: And it's not that this happens all the time. It 420 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: was more of that person instead of telling me be where, 421 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: was mad at me and yelled at me. And I 422 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: was like, what is I'm asking for advice because I'm 423 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: concerned and I don't know what to do right And 424 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: this is the thing that I because I feel like 425 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: so many times that happens, and then the woman in 426 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: question leaves, doesn't give promotion whatever it is because of that, 427 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: and then everyone's like, well, he's a nice guy and 428 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: he's good as his job, so he doesn't get any ramifications. 429 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: And then yeah, I mean that's like one of my 430 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: thest favorite things is when women are like blaming other 431 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: women when they should be blaming Do you want to 432 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: clarify because not that anybody connected to that job to 433 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: listen to this episode. He was not a coworker technically, 434 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: he was a contract position with us, so it wasn't 435 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: like but it was still odd because the way he 436 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: did it was definitely because we were talking about a 437 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: case and I could not avoid him. So all of 438 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: those things were a part of that. And I felt 439 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: like she felt justified. She felt really justified when she 440 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: was able to tell me that he got hit on 441 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: other people too, Like I'm not special. It was really odd. 442 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: It was really odd, but interaction was very odd. Um, 443 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: the whole experience was very odd. But yeah, that's the 444 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: conversation of like who buys into it, who's talking about it, 445 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: who the allowance to do it, who gets to be 446 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: able to be comfortable in it, and who gets to 447 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: burn bridges. That's a whole different conversation. Then, also we 448 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: talked about the myth what would have modern dame myth 449 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: for rosby their modern name meth is the Mistress. I 450 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: feel like this sounds so cynical, and I'm touching an 451 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: optimistic person, I swear. I feel like the myth is 452 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: that you can have an equal relations that equal partnership 453 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: and or the flip if it in the heateronormative relationship, 454 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 1: the woman is the one that brings home everything and 455 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: he's a caretaker, and that it actually works in that flip, yes, 456 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: but that doesn't exist. Yeah, and he's going to get 457 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: so much more credit than any stay at home. His 458 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: wife's gonna be so much more blame, yes, because she's 459 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: not saying, wow, would you do this to your children? 460 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: You're doing all these masculating him, even if that's not 461 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: how he feels. Yeah, exactly, that's my thing. It's like, 462 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: I hope it never sounds like I don't think people 463 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: canna have happy, healthy relationships, because I do. But there's 464 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: so much societal stuff you can't remove. You just can't 465 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: remove it. Yeah. Maybe the other modern day myth is 466 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: um having it all. Yes, like that the whole level 467 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: of you must be all good in all of these 468 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: and specifically for women, must be good at all of 469 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: these things. Have the children that are perfect, have the 470 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: house that is perfect, have the joke that you love, 471 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: that you're successful in climbing, like and being healthy and 472 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: also perfect body. Yes, yes, and then it's like not 473 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: exhausting and soul rushing, rushing at all. I think that's 474 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: another modern myth that is specific to women in general, 475 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: that you will have the perfect marriage, that you have 476 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: the perfect children, family relationship, that everything is beautiful, which 477 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: oftentimes we know it's not true. But yeah, I think 478 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: that's another modern myth that gets fed to us often 479 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: even if that means like you're the perfect house housewife, 480 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: you're the perfect day at home mom, Like that's the 481 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: the scenario, which that's kind of been more and more debunked, 482 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: but it's coming back a lot with the conservative conversation anyway. 483 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's part of the modern day 484 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: myth as well. Maybe, and this is going to be controversial. 485 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: Modern day myth is the perfectly happy single woman. Interesting 486 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: because I did I've talked about that before because I 487 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: think there is a strange thing we've attached to feminism 488 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: and being single and having sex, yes, like the kind 489 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: of hook up culture, which I have no problem with. 490 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: I think it's great if you're consensual, all about it, 491 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: But we've attached it to happiness feminism this is the best. Yeah, 492 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: So like I think, like, because don't get me wrong, 493 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: I still hold to the fact that I would rather 494 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: be single be miserable in a relationship, and I think 495 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: that works better because I don't want to settle for 496 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: a bad relationship. I think it's better to be single. 497 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: But do we hold to that fact that we are 498 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: so strongly held to that fact that we have to 499 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: present ourselves we're fine I'm fine everything. I'm never lonely. 500 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: I love doing this by myself. I'm gonna go sit 501 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: at a restaurant by myself. I love it, right, you know, 502 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: or you can't show weakness. I'm like, I'm only today. 503 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: It's hard today. Yeah, And that's the thing, is, like 504 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's sort of the pendulum swung 505 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: so hard because we were like, you're demonizing single women 506 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: in singlehood and we can be totally happy by ourselves, 507 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: which we can and I am, But that doesn't mean 508 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: like you don't have days right where you're like, okay, 509 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: I miss this. And also it doesn't mean that maybe 510 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: there's some societal gendered difference in relationships, which is why 511 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: you feel like you can't be in a relationship in 512 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: the first place. So there's so many things. But I 513 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, like, as a person of what do we 514 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: talk about intersectionality, we have to acknowledge that because that's 515 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: unrealistic to think that you're always going to be okay 516 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: and that being so independent is okay because sometimes, especially 517 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: at the housing market, it is hard to be single. 518 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, y'all can afford this beautiful home. You 519 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: have a roommate, you just call him a partner. You 520 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: may sleep with them, but that's still your roommate. And 521 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: then people will get looked down on if they have roommates, 522 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: being like, oh, that's so college and childish. You can't 523 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: afford your own. You don't afford your own. Some people do, 524 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: but like typically you have a dual income and that 525 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: makes a massive amount of difference. Yeah. Yeah, And I 526 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: think like the whole idea of we've seen so many 527 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: interesting takes of it recently, but the whole idea of 528 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: like you're happy all the time. It's a single man, 529 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: Like you're out, like parting every night, you're not, and 530 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: that's fine, Like you shouldn't be, in my opinion, if 531 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: you're happy staying in, stay in. And sometimes it's sad 532 00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: and that's okay. And he said, that's very very like 533 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: convincing herself as she punched the chair, very passionate about it. Yes, 534 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: well that's what good friends are for, Samantha. Yes. Well, 535 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: as we said, if you're interested in perhaps participating in 536 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: one of these episodes, we are collecting names. 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