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Speaker 3: Let's rip Milank.

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Speaker 2: Still the power Hour? I mean, I get confused with

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Speaker 4: Power hour of the show. Next hour is the bonus hour?

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Speaker 2: We got the Sager's to segment coming up a little

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Speaker 2: bit later on Arnie's Picks and uh, you see, you

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Jason and Mike live, eat, sleep,

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Speaker 2: and breathe on X like we do during our program,

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Speaker 2: but that's how we roll.

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Speaker 4: No, No, I don't think they do out there, by

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Speaker 4: the way, Big New Year plans for you or no.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm covering Bowl games. It's exciting, isn't it. I'm

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Speaker 2: getting to cover bowl games that my team's not playing.

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Speaker 2: And I've got responsibilities for the Rose Bowl, the Orange Bowl,

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Speaker 2: the Cotton Bowl, and what we play the Sugar Bowl

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Speaker 2: as well. So yeah, i got postgame responsibilities after every

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Speaker 2: single bowl game. So I'm gonna be wow, why are

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Speaker 2: you partying? You're hitting the town?

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Speaker 4: Well, I gotta work that night. But if I wasn't working,

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Speaker 4: I'd be probably going to like Times Square or something like,

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Speaker 3: Do something like that. Don't tell people that why do

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Speaker 3: you want to leave your house at all?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know that is a little too crowded for me.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you're right about that. I mean, I don't have

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Speaker 4: to wear a diaper because I can't go to the

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Speaker 3: Well, is there no bathrooms that you can use?

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Speaker 4: Well, you can't leave what you're behind, like the barrier.

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Speaker 4: You can't just leave and come back. It doesn't work really, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, didn't we learn or a lesson? And the

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Speaker 3: wha for we thing?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are we even doing trying to put

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Speaker 2: the restroom before they leave something. I I'm I'm split

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Speaker 2: On New Year's Eve, Yeah, I love it because it's

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Speaker 2: a fresh start for a lot of people, right, you

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Speaker 2: can in some ways, I don't. I'm not necessarily someone

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Speaker 2: that's like, gosh, got to get away from twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Well, I am a Raiders fan, so I guess maybe there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you should want to do that.

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Speaker 2: But everything else, you know, I'm a little healthier now,

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Speaker 2: I'm working out now, got some priorities more in order,

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Speaker 2: Like I don't feel like I need these New Year's resolutions.

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Speaker 2: And a date on the calendar is not going to

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Speaker 2: change your life. You know, suddenly you're not going to

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Speaker 2: wake up on January one. You're like, New Year knew me.

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Speaker 2: You know you're still going to be that same lazy

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Speaker 4: There's no good years left too. We hit the year

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Speaker 4: two thousand.

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Speaker 3: What we hit the year? There's no good years left?

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Speaker 4: Remember, Well, first of all, it was nineteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 4: was going to be a big year party against stuff

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Speaker 4: like that, and then historic was the year two thousand,

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Speaker 4: and then when you got the twenty twenty five was

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Speaker 3: I think twenty twenty six is rather historic.

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Speaker 4: Not really Okay, well, I mean with the number wise,

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Speaker 3: Why why are you so weird about numbers on years though?

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Speaker 4: Because I'm a math guy. Really, that's what.

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Speaker 3: I'm You're really not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but so you're saying, where do you put

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Speaker 2: the because New Year's Eve is very low I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm not that pompous about It's like I'm a bigger

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it was a.

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Speaker 2: Bigger deal for me when I was younger, and I'm

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Speaker 4: I think over the years it's kind of taken a

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Speaker 3: If you're just getting older and more boring.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that could that could be it. That could be

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Speaker 2: I mean you're about working on New Year's Eve. I

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Speaker 4: Air, right, that's true. Yeah, that's that's good. Well, we're

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Speaker 4: probably be done about ten thirty to eleven. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: What is this for five straight nights for you now

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Speaker 4: I didn't work Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you'll do tonight. Are you doing Tomorrow

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Speaker 4: I would do. I don't work back to back nights.

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Speaker 3: Well, Monday Thursday Friday.

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Speaker 4: Well, sometimes I'll give them, you know, a break and

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Speaker 3: But then you're doing Thursday Friday too?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? No, Monday, Wednesday Friday.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you're like going against your own

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Speaker 2: quote unquote demands. I would love it one time if

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Speaker 2: our boss man, the Great Scot Shapiro, would actually call

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Speaker 4: What are you're talking about? I don't know what you mean.

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Speaker 2: I would love it if he's like, yeah, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to offer you back to back shifts

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jesus, that's what he says. I know you won't

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Speaker 3: And why did you work Thursday and Friday?

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Speaker 4: Well there was nobody else, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah there was. There were people. I was begging for shifts.

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Speaker 2: So shut it all right, off the Twitter machine. Let

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Speaker 2: the game show. That's sweeping the plane standard pretty much. Yeah, Brendan.

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Speaker 2: After Week seventeen, guys, I know this. This year's Raiders

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Speaker 2: are the worst team since the nineteen seventy six Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: Maybe if the two teams played each other, the final

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Speaker 4: I think you're the second word team. I think the

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Speaker 4: Jets right you the worst team in the NFL. This year,

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Speaker 4: it was a good race between you and the Jets.

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Speaker 2: I think the Jets are absolutely terrible, absolutely terrible, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know how they've backed into the wins that

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Speaker 2: stat that blew my mind la last night? The worst

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Speaker 2: point differential in December in NFL history?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well the Jets amazing? Is that crazy or what?

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Speaker 3: Unreal?

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Speaker 4: But how about you that stat on Sauce Gardner the

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Speaker 4: for two teams to go what one and seven and

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Speaker 4: one in seven? Yeah it was two and fourteen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm thinking about the biggest disappointments this year.

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Speaker 2: but the biggest disappointments this year. Yeah, and the Colts

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Speaker 2: have an excuse because Daniel Jones went down and it's

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Speaker 2: hard to replace your quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but they were still they people are saying, well

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Speaker 2: But it's also a team that did go all in

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, they're gonna do this, and then Jones

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Speaker 4: But they still would have made the playoffs. I think

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Speaker 4: But I'm not sure exactly Colin is Matt Lefleur's seat warm.

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Speaker 2: Consider the Packers had the number seven seed for the

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Speaker 2: Record with Jordan Love is seven and eight. They're three

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Speaker 2: and three at home. Twenty twenty six is a contract

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Speaker 2: season for him. New CEO ed policy has lots to

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Speaker 4: I don't think it is. I think he's somewhat safe,

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Speaker 4: I was thinking about this, could dude, Yeah, could you

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was an age thing. I don't

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Speaker 4: No, No, I thought it was an age thing. You'll

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Speaker 4: have to what I'm telling you. I thought it was

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Speaker 3: I don't doubt it.

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Speaker 2: But I think if you said, and it's just me, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that you could fight that in court

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Speaker 2: if you really wanted to be just wouldn't it.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was the rule.

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Speaker 2: I'd be right if it. Just seems like that'd be

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Speaker 4: I thought the only reason they were allowed to get

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Speaker 4: it was owned by the you know, shareholders or something.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're still a publicly traded company, right, I mean

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Speaker 2: I have shareholders, So I mean you got people in.

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Speaker 4: I love to look to look at this.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you just throwing it out there without having

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Speaker 4: Sounds good?

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Speaker 2: Though it sounds good? Does my gosh? Every so often,

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Speaker 2: just like one Google search can help you out a

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Speaker 4: In this stuff.

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Speaker 3: I Colin, I think.

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Speaker 2: It's a fascinating question because I sit here and this

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Speaker 2: stinks they're terrible, And when I hear about a guy

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Speaker 2: Yes, the floor has been in the playoffs in six

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Speaker 3: Thirty six, thirty seven years old and then you're done.

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Speaker 3: Perhaps you've seen the.

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Speaker 4: It does. It destroys the high school athlete, the ones

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Speaker 2: They put the blame back on the schools. So you

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Speaker 4: I mean, and I didn't even know the rule beforehand.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, what good are we doing here and

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Speaker 2: You can make more money right now in college football

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Speaker 2: Right, fourth to seventh round, you still make more money

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Speaker 3: So fascinating times. Wow.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we accomplish a lot in that segment,

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Speaker 4: Rule, which how about that that existed?

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Speaker 3: No I to pull that out of your backside.

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Speaker 2: And then we kind of got in depth on the

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Speaker 4: I used to get on the dance floor with that

463
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Speaker 4: song all the time. Oh yeah, I remember that. That

464
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Speaker 4: was when I was in college. I think.

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Speaker 3: We let's get on the dance let's go.

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Speaker 2: In Western girls. Is that the line ty shirt? I

467
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Speaker 2: think it's right.

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Speaker 4: Something like that. Ah, that's Ail eighty mustache too.

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Speaker 3: That was eleven.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you had a mustache, But you stop with that.

471
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Speaker 3: What that's just a little that's not bad.

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Speaker 2: It's just a little bit of It's the only place

473
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Speaker 2: I can grow, actually grow facial hair right now. I

474
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Speaker 2: couldn't grow a mustache or a fu manchuw or a goatee,

475
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Speaker 2: but I could have a little a little bit underneath

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Speaker 2: my uh bottom list.

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Speaker 4: I had a little mustache fortytail. But all the girls

478
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 4: were like, you're so good looking, you don't need facial hair.

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Speaker 4: Facial hairs for ugly people. So so I kind of shaved.

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Speaker 2: I think my new favorite. I feel so bad for

481
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Speaker 2: this guy. I don't, Arnie. I'm sure you haven't seen it,

482
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Speaker 2: ty should? I bet you have, bursh I know you have.

483
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Speaker 2: It's the picture of the guy that has the beard

484
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 2: and then they shave the beard and he just looks

485
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Speaker 2: like it's almost a put the beard back on. They

486
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Speaker 2: got the side view of him like this big burly viking,

487
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Speaker 2: like badass with the beard, and then they shave the beard.

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, oh no, that's what I envision now, Arnie.

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Speaker 2: Whenever you need to get the facial hair back, you

490
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Speaker 2: got to hide the double chin. You'll be good to

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Speaker 2: go on that.

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Speaker 4: I have no double gin hare well, a little bit

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Speaker 4: of a double chin one and a half to one,

494
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Speaker 4: how about that?

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Speaker 2: Listen as a proud owner of a double chin, Arnie,

496
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Speaker 2: you can't lie those ones away.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I'm still in shocked about the Puka naku at near catch.

499
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Speaker 2: I'm still in shock about the non call on the PI.

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Speaker 2: But Arnie, before we get to saga in here for

501
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Speaker 2: an update, should we be even more shocked by how

502
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 2: dominated the Rams war in the first half? Are more

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Speaker 2: reassured by the fact that they came back and made

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Speaker 2: it a game in the second half.

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Speaker 4: No, it'd be more reassured. First of all, when you

506
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Speaker 4: throw up, you know, pick six, and you go down

507
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 4: twenty one to nothing and you're on the road, even

508
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Speaker 4: if it's to a team that's not going to the playoffs,

509
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 4: but they're feeling good about themselves. It is tough to

510
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Speaker 4: come back from something like that. And they did. I mean, yeah,

511
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Speaker 4: they lost the game, they didn't pull it out, and

512
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Speaker 4: then you have nobody to playing with themselves. They really

513
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 4: didn't play a very good game, but they they tried

514
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Speaker 4: to put it all together in the second half, still

515
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Speaker 4: made mistakes, couldn't get the break on that last drive.

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Speaker 4: I think you look at the good stuff, you come

517
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Speaker 4: away with the positive than the negative in that first half.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that make me feel a little bit better about

519
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Speaker 2: things because to me, as a team that I really

520
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Speaker 2: think could make a run, really think they can make

521
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Speaker 2: a run, I was a little concerned by that first half,

522
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Speaker 2: but they found a way to come back and make

523
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Speaker 2: a game of it.

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Speaker 3: So maybe it's a little bit real sharing.

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Speaker 2: Like I like how you're selling me positivity sold rams tonight.

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Speaker 4: I'm mister positivity. You know that, don't you? So? Like,

527
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 4: like I told you, it's really wide open. You're not

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Speaker 4: going to get the usual odds. And we've talked to

529
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Speaker 4: Todd Ferman about this where you'll have the favorite of

530
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Speaker 4: two to one and then the next like four to one,

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Speaker 4: and you'll get some six to one. You'll have everybody

532
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Speaker 4: in the like four to one, six to one, ten

533
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Speaker 4: to one range. You're not gonna get like that one

534
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Speaker 4: hundred to one or five hundred to one long shot

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Speaker 4: for the most part.

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Speaker 2: All right, Steve de Sager comes rolling in with an

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Speaker 2: update because we got a lot to get caught up on,

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Speaker 2: including an injury that we're keeping an eye on what's

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Speaker 2: going on, Steve that.

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Speaker 3: In the NBA.

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Speaker 7: By the way, the song you played is not Western Girls,

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Speaker 7: west End Girls.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well girls, Oh's.

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Speaker 7: Therefore like west End of London, Typer.

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Speaker 2: You've neither hit the dance forward to that to Sega.

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Speaker 2: You remember that I'm learning everything tonight. I didn't know

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Speaker 2: about the seventy year rule. A nice big night for me.

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Speaker 4: I'm teaching you, you know.

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Speaker 7: With the Rams lost tonight at Atlanta it was twenty

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Speaker 7: seven to twenty four Falcons, and after the heartbreak loss

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Speaker 7: at Seattle their previous game, can I just go back

552
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Speaker 7: a couple of short weeks when the Rams beat Detroit.

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Speaker 7: The comment from the Lions coach Dan Campbell is that's

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Speaker 7: what a number one seed looks like. Yeah, and more quote,

555
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Speaker 7: the Rams look more than any other team in the NFL,

556
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Speaker 7: like the team you could pick to go to the

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl this year, in this crazy no dominant team year.

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Speaker 7: And now the Rams are not only not NFC West champs,

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Speaker 7: as we mentioned even last night because of Sunday results,

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Speaker 7: they had no mathematical chance of winning the division even

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Speaker 7: before tonight started. And now they've fallen to eleven and five.

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Speaker 7: Can they even get the five seed in the NFC?

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Speaker 7: At this point, the Rams were down twenty one nothing

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Speaker 7: at the half. They did tie it with under three

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Speaker 7: minutes to go, but the Falcons won twenty seven to

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Speaker 7: twenty four on a fifty one yard field goal with

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Speaker 7: under thirty seconds left. You're correct about the late pass

568
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Speaker 7: interference call that.

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Speaker 3: Was not called.

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Speaker 7: That seemed obvious and it certainly did the guys in

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Speaker 7: the booth at the time. It was not second guessing.

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Speaker 7: There are also a couple of injuries to note that

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Speaker 7: might have made a difference, and maybe if these guys

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Speaker 7: are back to the play back in the playoffs, the

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Speaker 7: Rams will look better. The tackle Alaric Jackson was sorely

576
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Speaker 7: missed out with a knee injury. Wide receiver DeVante Adams

577
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Speaker 7: hopping down the field with the bad hamstring a couple

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Speaker 7: games ago, was out tonight. It reminds me a little

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Speaker 7: bit of I think it was last year early the

580
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 7: Rams had a horrible start to the season. Someone said,

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Speaker 7: are the Rams not good this year? My response was,

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Speaker 7: I don't know. The real Rams haven't been on the

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Speaker 7: field yet. Tonight there were just and They mentioned this

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Speaker 7: in postgame of the Monday Night football telecast. They weren't

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Speaker 7: all down on the Rams postseason chances because we think

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Speaker 7: that some of the regulars that contribute to victories for

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Speaker 7: this team might actually return.

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Speaker 3: But man, this was a bad one.

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Speaker 7: I know the Falcons are on a little winning streak

590
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Speaker 7: here end of season, but down twenty one to nothing

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Speaker 7: at Atlanta at the half, and that included the Matthew

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Speaker 7: Stafford pick six, which has turned out to be a

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Speaker 7: close game, that was really a killer. Stafford finished with

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Speaker 7: two touchdown passes three interceptions. Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman

595
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Speaker 7: is staying with an enhanced contract.

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Speaker 3: Reportedly.

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Speaker 7: In the NBA Miami over Denver one forty seven to

598
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Speaker 7: one twenty three, Nikola Jokic of the Nuggets left with

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00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 7: a knee injury and it did not look good. A

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Speaker 7: teammate of his backed into him on defense in the

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Speaker 7: lane and he went hopping to the locker room. The

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Speaker 7: late games go into the fourth quarter, Portland holding on

603
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Speaker 7: ninety seven to ninety three against Dallas for the MAVs,

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Speaker 7: Anthony Davis out again with adductor sorenis New York is

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Speaker 7: twenty three to nine after winning at New Orleans one

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Speaker 7: thirty to one twenty five. Zion Williamson thirty two points

607
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 7: in defeat. Minnesota won at Chicago one thirty six to

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Speaker 7: one poh one, and the Timberwolf starters combined for zero

609
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Speaker 7: turnovers in this game. Kobe White of the Bulls left

610
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Speaker 7: with a calf injury. Josh Giddy left with a back hamstring.

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00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 7: Houston got thirty points from Kevin Durant and beat Indiana

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Speaker 7: one twenty six to one to nineteen. Rocket center Alpriam

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Speaker 7: Schengoon was still out with a calf injury the Indiana Pacers. Boy,

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Speaker 7: things have changed six and twenty seven this year, Cleveland

615
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 7: won at San Antonio one thirteen, one oh one despite

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Speaker 7: twenty six points from Victor Wembin. Yama Spurs twenty three

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Speaker 7: and nine. How about Oklahoma City record of twenty eight

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Speaker 7: and five After beating Atlanta one forty to one twenty

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Speaker 7: nine Shay Gilgis Alexander thirty nine points.

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Speaker 4: Is this the All Star Game?

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Speaker 7: Geez Hawks guard Trey Young out with a Bruce quad

622
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Speaker 7: which brings me to the note about the All Star Game.

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Speaker 7: It's gonna be at the La Clippers Arena in mid February.

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00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 7: It's a new format this year for the NBA All

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00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 7: Star Game. Two teams of American players, one team of

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00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 7: international players in a round robin tournament. They'll use the

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Speaker 7: four quarters as four twelve minute games in this tournament.

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Speaker 7: On one Sunday afternoon, the voting was out the first

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Speaker 7: results of the fan vote, and by the end the

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00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 7: fan vote will count for fifty percent of things, a

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Speaker 7: quarter from the NBA players, a quarter of the vote

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Speaker 7: of a media panel. But the top two vote getters

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Speaker 7: in the West so far Luka Doncic and Nikola Jokic.

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00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 7: Top two vote getters in the East Giannis Antanacumpo and

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Speaker 7: Tyrese Maxi of Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, all right, thanks a lot, Steve.

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Speaker 2: It's Arnie in Plank Comedy live from the Fox Sports

638
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Speaker 2: Radio Studios. I've got to get to Roman numeral twelve

639
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: here in just a bit, but I did since we're

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Speaker 2: short on time, we got the segment coming up here

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00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: in just a bit. I did want to ask you

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00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: about the Marcus Freeman news today. I think I think

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Speaker 2: he's out of a coach. I think he's outstanding. I

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00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: think he would make a great NFL coach. I think

645
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: he's going to continue to make a great college coach.

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Speaker 2: Surprised to see that he wasn't at least tempted to

647
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Speaker 2: think about the Giants or the Titans.

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Speaker 4: A little bit further, I heard Dan Byer talking about this.

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Speaker 4: He said, there were four teams were portally interested, but

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Speaker 4: we only knew those two teams. I don't know the

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Speaker 4: other two teams.

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember who I was arguing with this about.

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Speaker 4: It might have been VJ, but I'm not one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent sure. I think the Notre Dame job is a

656
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Speaker 4: better job than the Titans, or a better job than

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Speaker 4: the New York Jets.

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Speaker 3: I get on board with that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an historic job. Money aside, how much does

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Speaker 4: he get at Notre Dame and how much would he

661
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Speaker 4: have gotten with the Titans. I got to assume much

662
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 4: pretty close, right, Chris or No, the money may be

663
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 4: a little bit more in.

664
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Speaker 3: The well, he'd make more in the NFL.

665
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Speaker 2: NFL, but he's not necessarily he's not lining up in

666
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: the breadline right.

667
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: No, we're not gonna start a collection for him. But

668
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Speaker 4: I do think status wise, you're getting a better status

669
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Speaker 4: at Notre Dame. No, I'm not surprised he's stayed. We

670
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: always say the grass isn't always greener. I do hate

671
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: that saying, though, but in this case, I think he

672
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: was right to stay. He's comfortable there, and what was

673
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: the what's the thing for next year? If they're in

674
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Speaker 4: the top twelve, they're going to get a bid.

675
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: Well, that's allegedly the rule.

676
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: We'll see, and he couldn't get that in the NFL, right,

677
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: they turned them down on that.

678
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: That's right? He asked, if he's a joke.

679
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: I saw that joke out there, remember of.

680
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: Those and his dad had got that joke in first

681
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: for tonight on X twelve.

682
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: Done. But I'll tell you what.

683
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: All of the knocks on nil and it's it's ruining

684
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: the game. Might might be right, but coaches don't have

685
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: to deal with it anymore. I mean you really don't.

686
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: You got a front office now in most college football programs,

687
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: and you have a guy who that is his job. Now,

688
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: I say, a guy, a guy gal. You got a

689
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: staff where it's costing more money, but you got to

690
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: do it. So for college football coaches, whenever you hear

691
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to deal with nil or I want

692
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: to deal with Well, you really don't.

693
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they got to give him the names. I mean,

694
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 4: they got to decide which players are getting what. Right,

695
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 4: that's up to the coaches, though.

696
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: No, you've got a general manager that does that, gotcha.

697
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: It works like an NFL team. Now, coaches can be

698
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: as coaches depending on where you are. Like Ryan Day

699
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: at Ohio State won a national championship. He can be

700
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: his hands on or his hands off as he wants, right,

701
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: Jim Naggy came to Oklahoma, I'm pretty sure he's running it.

702
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: Andrew Luck had a general manager at Stanford. His name

703
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: is Andrew Luck. He's pretty much running it right now

704
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: as far as things are concerned. So you still have

705
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: to recruit. I'm not saying it's easy. You still have

706
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: to recruit. You still got to sell your culture. And

707
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: culture I think matters a lot more in the college

708
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: ranks than it does in NFL. So this whole idea

709
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: that oh, I wouldn't want to be a college coach,

710
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: I honestly think that mess that we went through from

711
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: about twenty twenty to twenty twenty four is it necessarily

712
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: cleaned up. But I think with the implementation of these

713
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: front offices. I think it's made it a little bit

714
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: more bearable for coaches and their staffs.

715
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Speaker 4: You know, one thing I did do a complete one

716
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 4: eighty on I used to be behind the kids. I've

717
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: let the kids transfer and let them transfer immediately, and

718
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 4: I hate that they had to sit out a year

719
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: and all this and coaches never had to sit out.

720
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Speaker 4: Now when they transfer kind of bothers me. One because

721
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 4: they're transferring so much, tou because they're transferring because of money.

722
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: It used to be you were transferring because of playing time,

723
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: and I can get behind that. Nobody wants to sit

724
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 4: on the bench if you can go someplace else where

725
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 4: you can play not you know, everybody wants that. You

726
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: know that, Chris, We all want we don't want to

727
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 4: be on the bench. But now kids are transferring for

728
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 4: the money and other reasons like that, and it kind

729
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 4: of bothers me. The you know, they could transfer two, three,

730
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Speaker 4: four times.

731
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Speaker 2: Where are you most valuable as a college football player

732
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Speaker 2: right now?

733
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: Is the question?

734
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: Are you more valuable staying where you are and you know,

735
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: being retained a sure maybe you can make some money,

736
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: or are you more valuable on the open market? And

737
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: most people have found that they're more valuable on the

738
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: open market.

739
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 4: Oh, that's for sure.

740
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Speaker 3: And man, so it's not.

741
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: Just about Hey, I like it here, but I can

742
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: make like two hundred and fifty two hundred fifty to

743
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty thousand dollars more going to another school.

744
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: You kind of have to look at that. And tampering

745
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: is exist so much. These guys have agents, and some

746
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: of the agents are verified, some aren't, and they're just

747
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: out constantly trying to find a couple extra bucks here

748
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: and there, and it's it's it's working. But hey, I'll

749
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: tell you what, I'm fascinated by it. Man, I'm sitting here.

750
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: It's added a whole new season of the world of

751
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: college football?

752
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 3: Has it not? Got a free Agenciason coming up? Starting

753
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Speaker 3: January second.

754
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 4: There was a couple of people tweeting today matter of fact,

755
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 4: that this is the death of college football. The way

756
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: it's going right now actually had me scared. I was

757
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 4: reading some of the points. I'm like, hey, he's got

758
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 4: a good point here, he's got a good point there.

759
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 3: Sure, but what's the return? OK.

760
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: I know, we started with Marcus Freeman and we've ended

761
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: up in the nile world because it's crushed so much.

762
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 2: But you reach a point where it's what's the retur

763
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: on investment? Like you're giving these money, these moneies to

764
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: nil and it's not necessarily for a company anymore. It's just, hey,

765
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: I want to pay them the most money. What's your gain?

766
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: What's your goal? What do you get out of it?

767
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: I mean anything? Your team might win a game or two.

768
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: What if that guy sucks, you don't put your money back,

769
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: you know, but.

770
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Speaker 4: You only keep them for a year. Then it goes on.

771
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Speaker 3: They yeah, but it's still out the window.

772
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, you allegedly gave Jay not like you know,

773
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: mid six figures to come play running back for OU

774
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: and he had about as many yards as you.

775
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Speaker 3: Did this year. So I mean there's swings a miss

776
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Speaker 3: as it happens.

777
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Speaker 2: All right, listen, Steve is Sager, it's gonna slide in

778
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Speaker 2: with it a segment next, and then we've got to

779
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Speaker 2: get to our Staying or Gone game show. It's taken

780
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Speaker 2: over the country. It's coming up here on Fox Sports Radio.

781
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Speaker 5: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

782
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Speaker 5: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

783
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Speaker 5: pm Pacific.

784
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Speaker 2: It's that time when Arnie and I get to hang

785
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Speaker 2: out with Steve de Seger, that we welcome in our anchor,

786
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Speaker 2: America's anchor for the segment.

787
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Speaker 7: And happy holidays formally to the both of you. As

788
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 7: we look toward wild Card weekend, which is not that

789
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 7: far away, the NFL regular season ends this coming weekend,

790
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 7: it's possible that the NFC's three playoff games that weekend

791
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Speaker 7: are at Chicago, at Philadelphia at Carolina. How's the weather

792
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Speaker 7: in those three cities. The answer is not bad, especially

793
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Speaker 7: for January, because the forecast for Chicago is about thirty

794
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 7: five degrees, not that windy, and no forecast of rain

795
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Speaker 7: or snow yet for their nice Also wild card weekend

796
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 7: in Philadelphia about thirty eight degrees, a chance of some

797
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 7: Sunday morning snow, but keep in mind there's no guarantee

798
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 7: it will even be a Sunday game for Philly, and

799
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Speaker 7: also in Charlotte, assuming that it's the Panthers that win

800
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 7: that division and host a playoff game. About fifty degrees

801
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 7: showers possible on the Saturday, but not the Sunday is

802
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 7: how things look right now now. The Rams lost the

803
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 7: upset at Atlanta to is very good news for the Seahawks,

804
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 7: and that'll be great news for the Seahawks this weekend

805
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 7: if they can actually win at San Francisco and get

806
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 7: the one seed in the NFC. But this result the

807
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 7: Rams losing somehow tonight means the lowest the Seahawks can

808
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 7: go is the five seed.

809
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 4: Let's go, Jim Zorn, let's go, and.

810
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 7: Steve Largin once again, the top four seeds are reserved

811
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 7: for division champions, So if the Seahawks have a great

812
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 7: year but they're not division champion, the lowess they can

813
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 7: go is the five seed. The most intriguing, of course,

814
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 7: is what we've referenced earlier. The Panthers keep their hopes

815
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 7: alive of winning the NFC South.

816
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: In a myriad of ways.

817
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 7: They have three different ways they can clinch their division

818
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 7: title this weekend and therefore a four seed, a home

819
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 7: playoff game, a Carolina win at Tampa Bay on Saturday,

820
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 7: they win the division. A Carolina tie on Saturday, and

821
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 7: they win the division. Even if Carolina loses on Saturday

822
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 7: and then Atlanta wins its finale over the Saints would

823
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 7: still win its division.

824
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 4: Blowing that these Saints Atlanta game is going to decide

825
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 4: a division.

826
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Speaker 7: Time thanks to this little Falcons winning streak at the end.

827
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Speaker 7: So if they win next week as well, they'd finish

828
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Speaker 7: eight and nine. A Carolina loss means they'd finish eight

829
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Speaker 7: and nine, they would be losing at Tampa Bay. Tampa

830
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Speaker 7: would finish at eight and nine. Well, guess what, Carolina

831
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Speaker 7: would win a three way division tiebreaker. As for the

832
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Speaker 7: Seattle Seahawks, keep in mind going into the weekend, they

833
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 7: have a one game lead on the Niners. So yeah,

834
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Speaker 7: they're on the road Saturday night, but it's a win

835
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Speaker 7: or a tie, we'll clinch the NFC West title for

836
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Speaker 7: Seattle and therefore the one seed. The Rams can only

837
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Speaker 7: be a five or six seed in the NFC, and

838
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 7: as for Chicago and Philadelphia, they can only be either

839
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Speaker 7: two or three, and Chicago has the advantage they already

840
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 7: won at Philadelphia in November, so even though they have

841
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 7: the same record, if they both win this weekend, or yeah,

842
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 7: both lose this weekend, Chicago stays as the two seed

843
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 7: in the NFC. Got to mention how Atlanta one and

844
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 7: that is not just on the late field goal, but

845
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 7: on the greatness of Beshon Robinson. This guy has had

846
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 7: at least one hundred and fifty yards from scrimmage in

847
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 7: seven different games this year. Now, that is the most

848
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 7: in the NFL. He had exactly two hundred and twenty

849
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 7: nine yards from scrimmage in this one. One hundred and

850
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Speaker 7: ninety of that were after first contact, the most yards

851
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 7: a guys had after contact since they started tracking such

852
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 7: a thing about fifteen years ago. So the Falcons, although

853
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 7: they blew a twenty one nothing lead, did not blow

854
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 7: the game. They won it twenty seven to twenty four

855
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 7: over the Rams, which mean we can update the stat

856
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 7: the Falcons in the last thirty five years. What's their

857
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 7: record when they're up twenty one in the second half.

858
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 7: It's sixty nine and two, with the two blown losses

859
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 7: being the famous Super Bowl against the Patriots and the

860
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 7: other was against Matthew Stafford and the Lions about a

861
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Speaker 7: decade ago.

862
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 3: Wow.

863
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 7: In college basketball, yes, number one Arizona wound up a

864
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 7: winner at home. They were there's a real wildcat. Arizona

865
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Speaker 7: beat South Dakota State ninety nine to seventy one. A

866
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 7: lot of blowouts and mismatches. In college hoops, Number eight

867
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Speaker 7: Houston State undefeated at home. They barely beat Middle Tennessee

868
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Speaker 7: sixty nine to sixty. In the NBA, we've got a

869
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 7: late game going, and for those who care, the late

870
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 7: game has Dallas now in the lead with four minutes

871
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 7: to go, one thirteen to one ten at Portland. But

872
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 7: the big NBA news the Jokic injury earlier as Denver

873
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 7: lost at Miami knee injury. I'm sure we'll find out

874
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Speaker 7: more tomorrow, but.

875
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Speaker 2: Nothing new since the show started, right, no updates. Okay,

876
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Speaker 2: we'll keep an eye on that major story potentially developing

877
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Speaker 2: for the latter half.

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Speaker 7: And it was a road game, so it's not like

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Speaker 7: they can have their own hospitals and their own medical staff.

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Speaker 4: All of that.

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Speaker 2: Ropeman numeral number twelve. He is going to kick off

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Speaker 2: the bonus. That's Arnie Spanier. I'm Chris Plank. We are

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Speaker 2: heading down the home stretch with Arnie and Plank right

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio.