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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho, I'm Daniel Henderson, and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's going on everyone?

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Speaker 1: What's going on with you? Oh?

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Speaker 2: You know, I am not a person who routinely says

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Speaker 2: things like this, but I need a vacation. I am

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Speaker 2: so tired. This year has wrecked me. Yeah, in every

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Speaker 2: possible way, and I absolutely need a fucking vacation.

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Speaker 1: Well, the holidays are coming up, No, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have any time off or anything or.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have some time off, but it's hard to

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Speaker 2: I hate traveling at the holidays, like it's only it's

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Speaker 2: the only thing I want to do. Is like, when

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Speaker 2: it's a family holiday, my instinct is get the fuck

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Speaker 2: out of town. Yeah, And it's possibly because I spent

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Speaker 2: so many years, you know, not doing holidays with my family.

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Speaker 2: Like I did holidays with them for the first eighteen years,

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Speaker 2: and then I left and I'm like, I'm too poor

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Speaker 2: to come home and I can't do Christmas. And then

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Speaker 2: when I was married, we did holidays with his family

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Speaker 2: a lot because they got along.

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Speaker 1: And I liked them.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I just feel like I'm used to being

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Speaker 2: pretty alone on the holidays, so I'd rather travel, But

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Speaker 2: then all you other motherfuckers are in the airport going

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Speaker 2: to see your dumb families.

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Speaker 1: Sure flights are delayed.

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Speaker 2: And it's fucking chaos. So it's hard to But it's

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Speaker 2: hard to think about getting away. But I do need

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Speaker 2: a vacation, and I think even if I can't leave

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Speaker 2: for like the Christmas holiday break, I might go after

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Speaker 2: Christmas on a week vacation. I have a friend who

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Speaker 2: lives in London, and she's looking for a house sitter

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Speaker 2: because she and her family are going away, So I

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Speaker 2: might go to London and then travel from there and

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Speaker 2: just kind of take some time off. But it's also

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Speaker 2: it's hard because I'm like, I love traveling to cities

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Speaker 2: when I go on vacation, Like it's one of my

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Speaker 2: not overplan and just kind of exist in a different

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Speaker 2: space for a week. It's my favorite thing to do.

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Speaker 2: But more and more lately, I'm considering the beauty of

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Speaker 2: the kind of warm weather.

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Speaker 1: Vacation, like beachy vacation.

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Speaker 2: I've had a couple of friends like I've never really

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Speaker 2: done it, and I usually when I have time off

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Speaker 2: and I go somewhere, I'll go to a city. But

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Speaker 2: I've had a couple of friends in the last couple

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Speaker 2: birthday and another friend did something really cool, and it

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Speaker 2: just all it has me considering, like maybe the warm

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Speaker 2: weather vacation is not a bad idea. And my friend

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Speaker 2: who did something, she went on a Mediterranean cruise. Her

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Speaker 2: one of her oldest college friends won a cruise. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I guess j LO had some kind of promotion going okay,

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Speaker 2: and so they he entered and actually fucking won.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is actually and she wasn't like on the

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Speaker 2: cruise or anything, but he actually fucking won. And so

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Speaker 2: they went on a and he brought her and they

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Speaker 2: went on a Mediterranean cruise together, like around Barcelona and

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Speaker 2: is it was a virgin cruise, like virgin cruise lines.

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Speaker 2: Yes there are no fucking kids allowed, yep. And I've

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Speaker 2: never been on a cruise, but that sounds fucking tight.

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Speaker 2: And she's like, you're forced to relax because the WiFi sucks.

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Speaker 2: Like you have to chill, You've got everything you need.

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Speaker 2: And it has me kind of considering not just a

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Speaker 2: I never thought I would do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh dude, I've been on several and I got

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Speaker 1: back from one. I literally just got back from one.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on record I think cruises are fucking

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Speaker 1: fun of shit. You have to surrender to the vibe.

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Speaker 1: That is the absolute key. If you go on a

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Speaker 1: want to get my you know, single origin coffee, and

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Speaker 1: I want to go to a bookstore, and I want

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Speaker 1: to be around intellectuals and be moody. You don't. Don't

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Speaker 1: go on a cruise like you have to get into

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Speaker 1: the mindset of being in an all inclusive environment, because

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Speaker 1: that's really I think what it sounds like you want,

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Speaker 1: which is what I want. Weirdly enough now in my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like it sounds tight because put it this way,

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Speaker 2: we are people who take care of everyone around us.

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Speaker 2: No one takes care of us ever.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh.

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Speaker 2: No one is ever ever taking care of me and

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Speaker 2: saying like hey, I'll make you dinner or hey like oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, no one caters to.

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Speaker 1: My needs except for me. Yep.

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Speaker 2: So it sounds fucking dope to be in a place

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Speaker 2: where someone is like, hey, we got you, you can

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Speaker 2: because I'm always taking care of other people.

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Speaker 1: Yes see, I feel the exact same way because I

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Speaker 1: love traveling. I love going to cities that I've never

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Speaker 1: is the one that always makes the arrangements. I'm out

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Speaker 1: there renting the cars, booking the airbnbs, like coming up

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Speaker 1: with the things to do. And it's just my personality.

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Speaker 1: I have an older sister personality. I just I just

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Speaker 1: am all about that organization. I'm also not the type

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Speaker 1: personality when it came to booking vacations with me and

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Speaker 1: my friends, came from the fact that I was always

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Speaker 1: traveling with people who like didn't care enough to like

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Speaker 1: finesse the details that they were saying, Oh, let's just

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Speaker 1: like figure out a hotel when we get there. Bitch,

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Speaker 1: what what?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Never? I need to know? Oh completely, how does that even?

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Speaker 1: Fucking what?

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Speaker 2: See? This is the other thing, Like these are people

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Speaker 2: I have my trust issues, would never allow it. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I have trust issues and trauma, and I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: gotta know what's happened in my day.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: Like at least where I'm sleeping, I have freedom, like

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Speaker 2: I have, you know, I can get free. Let's put

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Speaker 2: it that way and relax and like I said, go

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean listen, when I was in my twenties,

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Speaker 1: And I was always like, I don't like this. I

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Speaker 1: So if you walk up to a hotel or a

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, I with that shit.

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Speaker 2: And also like I always get the shit end of

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Speaker 2: like and we're just gonna go and wait and see

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Speaker 1: And because because of that, I just want control. And

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Speaker 1: so I ended up booking a lot of vacations for

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Speaker 1: just have that, have that in me. So you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that I'm bad about too is

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Speaker 1: not tied to work or family obligations, because those aren't vacations. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: And when when I first went on one for the

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Speaker 1: leave me Alone or whatever. I mean. I was just like,

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Speaker 1: like you said, forced to relax. Water is very peaceful,

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Speaker 1: the weather is fucking great, and I just was like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: you're right, you don't have to fucking plan a thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to go on like an excursion,

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Speaker 1: have to plan a tour. You don't have to plant

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Speaker 1: a tour. You basically get on the boat. There's scheduled activities,

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely curious, especially after my my and this is

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Speaker 2: I put it this way, I like the idea at

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Speaker 2: this point in my life of a vacation that truly

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Speaker 2: allows me to relax, and I think a warm weather

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Speaker 2: vacation is a good way to do that. I'm dubious

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Speaker 2: about cruises still for a couple of main reasons. One is,

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely fearful of giving money to you or being

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Speaker 2: part of a company that exploits people, especially like if

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Speaker 2: you're going to like foreign countries and landing at different ports,

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Speaker 2: and like the whole economy system is fucked up by

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Speaker 2: the cruise culture, and like I'm very wary of that.

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Speaker 2: But I also I feel like cruises are just like

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Speaker 2: floating disease makers, like fucking Legionnaire's disease, and that I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you ever watched that HBO documentary is

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Speaker 2: out that cruise shit, And I'm like, do I want

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Speaker 2: it's it's the weird dichotomy of I would love to

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Speaker 1: worth it. In order for me to be the best

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00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 1: that I can be at all of these things that

435
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 1: I do, I have to take care of myself. And

436
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,959
Speaker 1: you know, I'm very like I never that never occurred

437
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: to me as a young person. I just thought you

438
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 1: grind and you just like are miserable, and then hopefully

439
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: you have a lot of money one day. Now, I'm like, no,

440
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: it's not about that. It's about like, you know, taking

441
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: time for yourself and like, you know, figuring out a

442
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: way to you know, decompress. And maybe you know, the

443
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: whole all inclusive resort like pampering spa cruise life, right

444
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: is one thing. But maybe it's that you literally just

445
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 1: go book a fucking nice house in the woods alone

446
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: and just fucking chill like it. You don't have to

447
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: have other people like waiting on your hand and foot necessarily,

448
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: but it's just, you know, a way for you to

449
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: not have to make decisions every five seconds.

450
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, because guess what, I live that in that house already,

451
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: Like that is my day to day book experience.

452
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: I'm alone in a house in the woods.

453
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: But like you said, the shift being if I do

454
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: that in a place that I don't have to look

455
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 2: around and be like, oh fuck, I got to replace

456
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: the tile, then it's a little bit easier for me

457
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: to just be to just be in a place is

458
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 2: what I'm striving for. And I think that cruises are

459
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 2: appealing to me and I'll try anything once. And my

460
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: friend had such a great experience and she and I

461
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: are so similar and never thought we'd be on a cruise.

462
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: And her friend that she went with actually is a

463
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: performer at Disney and like, you know, he's part of that,

464
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: Like he usually works on cruises and like works on

465
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: these ships. So it's like it was nice to see

466
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: them be able to kind of let go and enjoy

467
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 2: themselves in a space where they would.

468
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: Normally be working.

469
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: And I feel like, oh, well, that's there's something appealing

470
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: there where it's also it's possible to do in a

471
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 2: way that isn't purely exploitative of anyone or purely forced

472
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: upon me to like to still carry the weight of

473
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: the world on my shoulders while I'm there, Because that's

474
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: the thing that also makes me worry, is like, if

475
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: I go to an all inclusive resort a cruise, am

476
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 2: I going to be worried the whole time that I'm

477
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: like contributing to some fucking horrible societal issue. But there

478
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: are places you can go where that doesn't happen, and

479
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: there are trips you can take where that's not the case.

480
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: And I think it's just up to me to do

481
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,239
Speaker 2: the work finding out what that is.

482
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, I don't know, like not everything

483
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: is white lotus, you know what I mean. Like, it's

484
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: like like if a company is ethical and they pay

485
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: their people enough and give them enough benefits, then they

486
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: have pride and what they do. And having pride and

487
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: what they do also could mean pampering you, you know,

488
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: when I wait at tables. I mean, yes, I was

489
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: young and like fucking like hated a lot of customers

490
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: because they were rude and stuff. But I also had

491
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: pride in what I did, Like I wanted to be

492
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: a good server, and I wanted to have good ser

493
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: give good service and make people feel you know, good

494
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: eating at restaurants. So it's that thing where I'm like,

495
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's not it's you're just gonna have

496
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: to like do the homework about it. And I'm sure

497
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: there's it's nothing as perfect, you know, but I feel

498
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: like at least you're in the space where you are

499
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: recognized it, recognizing it maybe being something that like comes

500
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: from like a trauma from a childhood, and maybe yeah,

501
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: talking about that is going to help with that a

502
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: little bit.

503
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 2: So absolutely, even if I just try it once and

504
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: see what it's like to be taken care of and

505
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: you know, in whatever way I decide that looks. I

506
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: think it'll be interesting to see how I react to

507
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: that and kind of see if I can get there

508
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: and truly relax, because I know I need it. Like

509
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: I can feel my shoulders are up by my ears

510
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: like ninety percent of the day, Like I'm just so tense,

511
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: and so I can kind of feel that I need

512
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: to relax for my own health, Like I need to

513
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: figure out a way day to day, And that's kind

514
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: of what I'm striving for now, is like a day

515
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: to day relaxation, a day to day like meditation or

516
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 2: just like just literally calming down for ten minutes every day.

517
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: I have an acupressure mat that I lay on and

518
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't hurt, like you can feel it, but it

519
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: doesn't hurt, but it just kind of like is supposed

520
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: to stimulate your blood flow.

521
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: And it costs like twenty bucks.

522
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: I got it, you know, like a local store and

523
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: like a local hippie store, and it just kind of

524
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: like just being able just being forced to lay down,

525
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: Like forcing myself to lay down for ten minutes and

526
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: just not think about anything is a good exercise for me. Yeah,

527
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 2: and trying to relax every day. So I think that

528
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: it's I can get there. I can get and like

529
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 2: I said, I'll try anything once. I love the notion

530
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: of Look, I've never One thing I've never done in

531
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: my life is puke over the side of a boat.

532
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: I've been on several. I used to go fishing all

533
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: the time, but I'm pretty cool on a boat because

534
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: I'm usually not drinking. So there's I cannot believe that

535
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: I have never puked off the side of a boat.

536
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that could happen. Listen, You're never It's always possible.

537
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: Life is filled, life is filled with possibilities. I'm sure

538
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: you could puke off of a boat.

539
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 2: I'll take that Viking cruise and I'll just slide that

540
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: door open and puke in a feword I don't care.

541
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm telling you right now, I can so see

542
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: you on a Viking cruise. I can see myself on

543
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: a Viking cruise. If Viking sees us together on a

544
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: Viking cruise and wants the spots this podcast, please get

545
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: in touch with us. I saw what you did pot

546
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: at jmail dot com. I swear to God like that

547
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: is a dream, like truly a dream to go in

548
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: one of those things. I just need to come up with,

549
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: like sixty grand and uh, we'll be on our way.

550
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: We can go to fucking They do these cruises that

551
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: are like thirty forty five days.

552
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: What.

553
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: Yes, they're long ass cruises, man, but you get to

554
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: go to all these great spots and it's like, I

555
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: don't know, now I sound like a commercial for Viking,

556
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying I want to go that bad.

557
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: It just looks incredible, and I feel like, you look

558
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: it up. That's your speed, dude. Like it may it

559
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: may not be that you need to go on like

560
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: the Carnival Kathy Lee Gifford cruise. Maybe you need to

561
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: go on this Viking thing, you know what I mean?

562
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: That sounds dope. I'm gonna look it up. I'll look

563
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: at those state rooms. I'll see what's happen and in

564
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: I'll see what kind of kind of fucking waterways we're

565
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: going to be in.

566
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: Yes, and for God's sakes, take a vacation. You really

567
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: deserve it. After everything that you've done this year with

568
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,239
Speaker 1: your grandma, with work, with the podcast, with everything, you

569
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: deserve a vacation. I'll tell you that right now, as

570
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: somebody who knows you and talks to you often. You

571
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: deserve that, thank you, and you do too.

572
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: We've been through a fuck a lot this year too,

573
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: and guess what, I can kind of foresee us going

574
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: on some kind of vacation together in the future because

575
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: Pulp is going back on tour.

576
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm I'm there, Like, just tell me when,

577
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: just someone and where.

578
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: Cannot wait. They are my favorite band. I cannot fucking

579
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: wait and they're playing right. They announced their first parcel

580
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: of dates. It's all UK, but different parts of the UK.

581
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: But I mean, shit, we can go to Wales, fun

582
00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: go to Dublin.

583
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: It's all out. I'll definitely go to Dublin. I'll go.

584
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: I'll go to Ireland or Scotland never I've never been

585
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: to either. I would love to go. I'll even book

586
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: Airbnb's there. I'll do the leg work that is a

587
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: vacation there where I would like, actually want to plan it.

588
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't need an all inclusive Scotland vacation to say.

589
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: Hell no no, I just want I need to know

590
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: where I'm going to sleep.

591
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: I need to know.

592
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: I kind of need to know that there are seats

593
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: at the concert, even if I'm not in it all

594
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: the time.

595
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: I need to know that it's available to me.

596
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like that's kind of where I am

597
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: at this point in my life, which I've never thought

598
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: I would say. But I'm kind of not considering a

599
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: concert without chairs.

600
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: Oh, trust me, Like I I better be sitting down.

601
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: I want to fly all the way to the UK

602
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: to sit down a.

603
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: Concert and listen to music that I could hear right

604
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: now on my phone.

605
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I listen if I If they play the

606
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: His and Hers album, I'll stand from my chair, no doubt.

607
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: But I want to be able to have the chair.

608
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: It has to be there, exactly. I want to stand

609
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: for the songs that are meaningful enough to me, which

610
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: is most of them. M hmm. But come on, His

611
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: and Hers different class. This is hardcore. They're live albums.

612
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: That fucking that documentary that a Stilloscope put out a

613
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: few years ago that I watched multiple times a year.

614
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: Shit, If Jarvis wants to play some from his solo jams,

615
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: that black Magic song Man play black Magic as an encore, dude,

616
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: I'll be.

617
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: There black Magic further complications like fucking bring it.

618
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

619
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I just I'm very excited. I can't wait. I

620
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: think we should go. I think we should planet or

621
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: maybe get one of our friends to plan it so

622
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: we can relax, and they just send us the details.

623
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: Do we know any travel agents? Do those still exist?

624
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: Travel agents?

625
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: Probably for like super people, damn, But we should look

626
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: into it. There's probably you know what, I guarantee that

627
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: there's probably someone in their twenties who's like, let's bring

628
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: back travel agents.

629
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: Oh god, that would be fucking brilliant.

630
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: Like you have an influencer thing.

631
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: Get a storefront and a shopping mall, like a little

632
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: a little strip mall. Put up some like posters of Acapoco.

633
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: I'll be there, I love it.

634
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: Put up a hang in there posters and posters of

635
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: Aca Polco.

636
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: World's greatest Grandpa mug. I'm there.

637
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: I guarantee someone has tried to figure out how to

638
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: disrupt travel agents and they're on it. There's some app

639
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: right now that's like, let us be your travel They

640
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: call it a travel concierge.

641
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: I bet shit, I'll what if it's me? What if

642
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: this is my second act? What if because listen, I

643
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: know want to plan vacations. We've just established that I will.

644
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to look at least off of space the

645
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: minute we stop recording.

646
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: Well, then let's get into these fucking movies so we

647
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: can get you into the next phase of your life.

648
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 1: Oh, this next phase is gonna be so fucking sweet.

649
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: We got a great theme.

650
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's an oldie, but a goodie bringing

651
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: it back because it's just that fun it is. And

652
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: our theme this week is DJ play my motherfucking song.

653
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look, you'll be happy to know that

654
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: this time my song from my movie plays many times.

655
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: In the film, and this time my song plays instrumentally

656
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: at different moments throughout the film, but in full only

657
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: at the end.

658
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: Ha. We've swapped. We've swapped places. The last time we

659
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: did this episode, you know our movies where She's having

660
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: a baby and Far and Away, and so we're back

661
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: this time. I think this episode is gonna be great

662
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: because personally, these were two huge songs in my childhood, massive,

663
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: massive smash hits. And here's the weirdest part about that too,

664
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: is that, first of all, never saw your movie until

665
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: just now, so it's a brand new watch for me.

666
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we'll talk about it. And I never

667
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: saw my movie until maybe like a year or two ago.

668
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: For the first time. So I never watched these movies,

669
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: but these songs were like so fucking big.

670
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: Right completely, And that's how it used to be, is

671
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: like the song carried so much weight that the movie

672
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: was almost the secondary thought. Like this song was such

673
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: a huge marketing tool that like whether you saw the

674
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: movie or not, they're like, eh, yeah, well I'll get

675
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: you on the soundtrack, Like you'll have to buy the

676
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: soundtrack for this song.

677
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if this is true about your song,

678
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: but my I think my song for my movie was

679
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: written for the movie specific. So yeah, so is mine

680
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: for sure. Dude, your song is so epic it's fucking unreal. Oh,

681
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: we are going to get into holy shit. No, this

682
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: is gonna be a great episode because we're gonna talk

683
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: a lot about music, which we love to do. We

684
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: love talking about music, so.

685
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: Hand in hand, we love music, we love movies. I

686
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 2: just I have to say too, watching these films, which

687
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: I did, is a true double feature. This week, I

688
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: watched them back to back in one one evening, and

689
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: I just fucking love movies so much, Like even when

690
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: they're not the best movie in the world, I just

691
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: love storytelling.

692
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,959
Speaker 1: And I just I love movies. I fucking love movies. Yeah,

693
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: me too. These were fun. They very much evocan era.

694
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: Two different things, right, because one is like about you know,

695
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: basically high school kids and the others about adults, sexy adults,

696
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: and both had this like total like both were just

697
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: so the idea of me being a little kid and

698
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: thinking forward into life, being like, what are what's high

699
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: school going to be?

700
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: Like?

701
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: What are my adult years going to be?

702
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: Like?

703
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: These are the types of movies that would inform that,

704
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: Like even though I never saw them, but they just

705
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: have this like weird kind of vibe to them where

706
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I just thought your movie was like the

707
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: Pinnacle of Adulthood. Like I was, like, I never saw it,

708
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: but just watching the video, which has a lot of

709
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: clips from your movie, I was like, wow, that's what

710
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: being an adult. An adult is this song.

711
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: It's all like sweaty and sexy and like in Mexico.

712
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 2: Looking at the adults would be like just being in

713
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: Mexico and be and sweaty and sexy wearing.

714
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: A lot of linen. Yeah, and then you know, my

715
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: movie is a very typical kind of you know, like

716
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: an eighty It's a very classic sort of eighties sports

717
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: coming of Age movie, and I was like Madonna and

718
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: Matthew Modine. I guess that's how high school is gonna be.

719
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: So I mean it is.

720
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: I had such a crush on Matthew Modine. It started

721
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: with this movie, which I saw like on WPIX channel

722
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: eleven one day, probably like in an afternoon, and I'm like,

723
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: he is so cute. And then Gross Anatomy, which I

724
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: fucking loved. I watched it all the time. It was

725
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: always on HBO. And then he did that, Oh he

726
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: was in Full Metal Jacket, which of course I saw

727
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: when I was a child.

728
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: And Bertie. Do you remember Bertie? I don't think I

729
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: saw Bertie. Oh god, he was just so fucking cute.

730
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: He was in Memphis Bell. Let's not forget Let's not.

731
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: Forget about That's like the first thing I got to say.

732
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: And luckily I'm going first to Sweet because I got

733
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: a lot to say.

734
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: I do think he has always been so adorable to me.

735
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we're gonna get into it because he is

736
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: obviously the star of my movie this week. So you ready,

737
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: you're ready to talk about these two classic soundtrack films.

738
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: I'm fucking ready because I also, I cannot believe, and

739
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: we'll talk about it. I cannot believe it took me

740
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: so long to realize that Madonna couldn't sing, cannot carry

741
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 2: a tune.

742
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: This is going to be discussed in just the most excellent, excellent,

743
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: So my movie for the theme DJ play. My Motherfucking

744
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: Song is a movie from nineteen eighty five. The screenplay

745
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: was by Darryl Poniscan was based on a book of

746
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: the same name by Terry Davis. It was directed by

747
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: Harold Becker, and it's called Vision Ques. The Girl of

748
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: my dreams have center my own roof, see her every

749
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: David just thinks I'm a kid, immature, dumb jus, all

750
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: of which is more or less true. Vision quest. Oh

751
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: my god, we gotta talk about that vision question. Okay. So,

752
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: to be honest, I wrestled get it.

753
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say, like I was a

754
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: wrestler in high school.

755
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: No, No, like what?

756
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: No?

757
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: I just simply wrestled with two different options for this week, Okay,

758
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: Because when it comes down to it, there was actually

759
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: two Madonna ballads that I was obsessed with growing up

760
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: that came from movies that I had never seen. Right,

761
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: So The first one was Lived to Tell, which was

762
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: from at Close Range, which I've still never seen, by

763
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: the way. Fuck, it's like, got Sean Pett and Christopher

764
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: walk in and it's like Madonna's in that forties dressed

765
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: and she's like talking about home or I don't know,

766
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: something like that like that. That's the video IM And

767
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: then like intercut with that was like Sean Penn and

768
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: Christopher walking in, like with in a roadhouse or something.

769
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't even remember. MTV really informed a lot for me,

770
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: like I was a kid.

771
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: Good. But but I think with Out Close Range was

772
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: that based on a play I can't remember.

773
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: But I actually think it might be like a true

774
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: crime or something. I don't know, damn, yeah haven't.

775
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: I don't think I've watched it, or at least if

776
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: I have, I don't remember it and I haven't seen

777
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: it in a long fucking time.

778
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so why don't we put that in an episode.

779
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: We'll have to do that as an episode. That'll be

780
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: a first wash for both of us. But anyway, so

781
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: that so Live to Tell and then this song which

782
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: comes from a vision quest and I mean, I don't ever,

783
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: I don't really know why I never saw this movie

784
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: because I mean, it was such a common It's such

785
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: a common thing in the eighties, like these coming of

786
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: age sports movies, right, But I do remember seeing the

787
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: video about three hundred thousand times on MTV, and of

788
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: course they had clips from the movie, like to the

789
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: point where I thought, maybe it's seen the movie because

790
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: I just saw the video so so often, do you

791
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I totally understand. Yeah, Like

792
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: I watched the video you know, on YouTube this morning

793
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: and was like that they really showed pretty much the

794
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: entire movie in this video, so now we don't watch it. Yeah,

795
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: it was it was a promotional tool for the film, obviously,

796
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: which is why they did all that. But I was like, wow,

797
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: I never actually saw the film, and now I know

798
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: that crazy for you is it was in thirteen going

799
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: on thirty, and it's been in a lot of other stuff.

800
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: But like, the whole reason why I even thought about

801
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: the movie was because of the song. And like I said,

802
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: the song was written for the film by these two songwriters,

803
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: and it was written for Madonna, who at the time

804
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: was just starting out for the most part, like like

805
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: a version out her huge fucking life changing album was

806
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: released around the same time as this film, and it

807
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: was kind of interesting too because this song was written

808
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: for her, written for Vision Quest, but it was also

809
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: the first time that she had released a ballad as

810
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: a single because most of her songs were dance songs

811
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: at the time. And so what ended up happening was

812
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: the song got played on a lot of like adult

813
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: contemporary radio stations. Yeah, and it kind of like pushed

814
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: her career forward because it was like she had rain,

815
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: she could sing slow love songs and dance songs, and

816
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: so it just was like it just kind of broadened

817
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: her fan base a little bit. But I have to say,

818
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: as a girl, there are two two songs that I

819
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: thought were the most romantic songs ever, and I used

820
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: to listen to him on repeat like hundreds of times

821
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: Rush Rush by Paula Abdul and this song and buts

822
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: An is Crazy for You. Like those two songs I

823
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: would just listen to on repeat like a sad little

824
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: girl that wanted a boyfriend so bad.

825
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: Okay, we again, parallel childhoods. I vividly remember laying on

826
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: my bed at like seven years old, eight years old,

827
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: listening to Crazy for You and thinking, oh my God,

828
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:52,479
Speaker 2: I know what love is. Say, you know, I want

829
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: to be in love because of this song and just

830
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: thinking it was the fucking jam.

831
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't what brings that out in us?

832
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 2: This is that high fidelity question what comes first the

833
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: music or the misery? Like what the fuck was I

834
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: doing at eight years old? Later on my bed listening

835
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: to Crazy for You, I'm repeat like a fucking maniac.

836
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: Oh yes, And and to be honest with you, like,

837
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't even really know where my feelings were being

838
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: directed at, do you know what I mean? It's like

839
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: could have it could have been a boy at my school,

840
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: could have been this cast of Memphis bell I don't know.

841
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: I just wanted a boyfriend. I wanted to be in love,

842
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, just the idea of like story, you know,

843
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: these songs are stories about people like wanting to be

844
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: with people, and I just thought, oh, I want that too,

845
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: but I don't. I'm just like now I'm just crying

846
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: with my little Fisher Price radio like.

847
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: Because I'm like, looks that marketing team was tight. They're like,

848
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: what we need to do is get one of those

849
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: thick plastic Fisher Price discs and just fucking brail this

850
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: fucking song into into.

851
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: The grooves and let little kids get sad because I

852
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: actually still have the forty five for Crazy for You,

853
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: like I haven't. It's in my living room right now,

854
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: and and like I just was like, I mean, you're

855
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: you've gotta be fucking dead to not like this song.

856
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so like dreamy and like sexy but

857
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: like romantic, and like, I mean, they fucking nailed it that,

858
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: Like the people that wrote the song, they really nailed it.

859
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: Fucking nailed especially because Madonna cannot sing in this song

860
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: or in general.

861
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: Oh, we're gonna talk about that, because the thing is

862
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: is that this play, this song plays in many points

863
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: of the film. You know. The one thing that's very

864
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: notable about Vision Quest is that Madonna was actually in

865
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: the movie. She She's in the scene where Louden goes

866
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: to the bar and sees Carla out and Madonna's playing

867
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: in the bar, and she actually performs that song Gambler.

868
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: So she does two songs, Gambler and for You and

869
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: the song. So what ends up happening is after this

870
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: the song plays anytime Loudon and Carla are together, essentially,

871
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: and they took the actual live track that she sang

872
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: in the bar, which I gotta say, I don't think

873
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: it's on key. I don't know. You don't have to

874
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: be bashful about that. It isn't It absolutely is not

875
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: on key at all. But the actual recorded version is Okay,

876
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: it's just that live version. So but in that way

877
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, why do they keep playing the

878
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: version she just sang because she sang a y and

879
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: this is annoying.

880
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: And look, I several Madonna songs just litter my life. Like,

881
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that her inability to sing has prevented

882
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: me from enjoying her music. I'm just saying it took

883
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: me a lot long time to realize she's off key

884
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, Like a lot of what she puts

885
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: out is what the kids now call a vibe.

886
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

887
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: Like she had a lot of fucking attitude and a

888
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: lot of energy. And when I was a kid, I

889
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: loved her because I'm like, this motherfucker is rebellious, like

890
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: that desperately seeking Susan moment where she raises her arms

891
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: up and she's got the pit hair, and I'm like,

892
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: she had a whole thing going on, and singing was

893
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: like a part of it. Yeah, that pushed her into

894
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: our pop cultural lexicon, but it wasn't the thing she

895
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: was the best at.

896
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: Now, I feel like there were certain songs that she

897
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: has in her in her discography, if you will that

898
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: when she gets at a higher register, it's kind of

899
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: like like you're like, Okay, Madonna, don't go that high.

900
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: You're not Christina Aguilero or Mariah Carey, like you know

901
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like, if you just stay at

902
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: this kind of like low fun key, you're fine. But

903
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: if you try to know, it's a little wobbly, and

904
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: I feel like there's that crazy for you. It's those

905
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: notes that, yes, you get a little get a little bent,

906
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: I guess. But that's like every time they'd play the

907
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: song in vision quest, I'd be like, it just flinched.

908
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: I would just flinch slightly.

909
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: I know that version, that version in particular, You're like,

910
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: the song gets me there, but the version of the song.

911
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 1: The live one. Wow.

912
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: Also, I kind of love that. I know this is

913
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: turning into a Madonna episode. I don't mean it to be,

914
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: but I kind of love in the like a Prayer

915
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: era when that song came out and she had like

916
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 2: that professional chorus like a professional choir of black singers

917
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 2: behind her in the like a prayer song.

918
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why are you playing yourself like this.

919
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: You've got actual singers.

920
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: Behind you who are doing a shitty great, like a

921
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: fucking great job, and you're up here shitting all over

922
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: the place.

923
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: Exactly her two longtime backup singers that are like in

924
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: the holiday. Yeah, they're like holiday celebration coming again. I

925
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: love those two. Love those two. She couldn't just push

926
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: a little bit more work on them, and they're like,

927
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: you got me right now, Oh my god, but I

928
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: love it. Listen. I after, after I was done writing

929
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: my notes for this episode, I went on a Madonna terror.

930
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: I've been listening to my Donna for like three days, dude.

931
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: I was like, lot you slave. Bonita is a fucking

932
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: jam shit. Yeah, well it's.

933
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 2: Hard not to do when you find the fucking song

934
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 2: from the movie and you're like, now I'm transported back

935
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: to a place, which is what movie soundtrack, the movie

936
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: theme should do. They should transport you to the moment.

937
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: And I didn't.

938
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: I didn't hate your movie. I thought it was weird that, like,

939
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: like Matthew Modine plays such an earnest character in this film,

940
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: and like the one thing I wish they did, which

941
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: I know was impossible because you know, it was nineteen

942
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 2: eighty five, is focused on the fact that he clearly

943
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: had an eating disorder and was like constantly telling people

944
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: that he felt like he was going crazy, and nobody

945
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: listened to him.

946
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I mean, listen, there's a couple of things

947
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: that are very of the era that we need to discuss,

948
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: and one of them is the fact that he is

949
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: disturbingly putting himself through hell, like he's like, I mean,

950
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into it when I get into the synopsis, because,

951
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: like I said, if you haven't seen this movie, I

952
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: kind of can't blame you, because it's the thing where

953
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: I just I never saw it as a kid. I

954
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: think I just was so like fixated on the song

955
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: and then I just forgot to watch the movie. But anyway,

956
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: if you want a synopsis of the film, okay, Vision

957
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: Quest is about a high school athlete who is completely

958
00:50:54,719 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: and utterly obsessed with winning the county wrestling championship, but

959
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 1: he gets slightly derailed when he meets this alluring older lady.

960
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: And that's the synopsis. Of the film. And what we

961
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: talked about just now is that Matthew Modine, who is

962
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: the star of many, many great films, including Married to

963
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: the Mob, which, by the way, we did a commentary

964
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: track for the Fun City Editions Blu ray of Married

965
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: to the Mob.

966
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: I just watched it the other night, and it was

967
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: so weird to hear Mike like our voices coming out

968
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: of it tell oh my.

969
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: God, I can't but I'm like, it's so well done.

970
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: All the extras are great. It's so well done. They

971
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: did a beautiful job with that reissue. And yeah, he

972
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: is hilarious in that movie and so weird and I

973
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: loved it.

974
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also kind of the same type of guy.

975
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: He's a very kind of earnest I think we talked

976
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: about this, maybe in that commentary or maybe when we

977
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: did there's another movie that we did in his right,

978
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but maybe it was what we were

979
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: talking about, Memphis Bell. He has kind of this like

980
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: very like aw shucks quality to him, Like he's very

981
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy Stewart type, right. And uh, Also, I have to

982
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: say when that DVD came out and he was retweeting

983
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: our names as part of like the Special Features. I

984
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: was what shitting Okay.

985
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: Wait, I deactivated my Twitter account. I did not know that.

986
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: Matthew Modine is out here promoting this blu ray where

987
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: we're involved. So we're about like a degree away from

988
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: Matthew Modine at this point. I can't handle it. Matthew,

989
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: if you're out there, are you out there? Do you

990
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: want to be on a podcast? Please? I guess I

991
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: can't handle it. Are you fucking kidding me? No? Why

992
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: would I be kidding you? Listen, I gotta say, I know,

993
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: why would you be kidding?

994
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: You're like, why why would I? I believe his wife is.

995
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: Italian something possibly? Yeah, I love that.

996
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: I think I think they've been married for a very

997
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 2: long time. They have kids and everything. But I think

998
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: she's I don't know, I'm gonna find out. But she

999
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: is a brown woman. And I think they've been married

1000
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: for forty two fucking.

1001
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: Years, dude.

1002
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: And there's something that I now can identify, is like

1003
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 2: I can innately identify when I like a white guy

1004
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: because he is a brown wife. So even before I

1005
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: knew this information, I'm like, Matthew Modine seems cool to me.

1006
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: I don't know why. And then I found.

1007
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: Out it's because he has a fucking brown wife. Yeah.

1008
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean I saw him on the street in New

1009
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: York about fifteen years ago and he drives a prius.

1010
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: I was like, this motherfucker is solving climate change.

1011
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: We love him, We love tweets. He used to tweet about,

1012
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: like fucking like when there was a school shooting or

1013
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: like an he's in it, like he's in the world,

1014
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: Like he's not like stepping back.

1015
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: But he's also fucking cool.

1016
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got a cool wife and beautiful like

1017
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,479
Speaker 2: just they're a beautiful couple. There's something real cool about him. Yes,

1018
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: And if he wants to come on the pod, I'd

1019
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 2: be down, and I will apologize to his children in advance.

1020
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: Your dad's hot. He's great in this film, by the way,

1021
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: Like he really is, Like he really does seem like

1022
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: the kind of character that he plays, right. Yeah, So

1023
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: he plays the lead character of the film. He plays

1024
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: this character named Loud and Swain. What a name, by

1025
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: the way. He is this eighteen year old high school wrestler.

1026
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: He lives with his dad in Spokane, Washington, Okay, and

1027
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: he has a job at night where he delivers room

1028
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: service at a hotel. But here's the thing. Right off

1029
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: the bat in this movie, it's very known that he

1030
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: has this focus mission, and what he wants to do

1031
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: is he wants to lose as much weight as he

1032
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: can so he can be in the same weight class

1033
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: as like the current county wrestling champion. This kid name

1034
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: Shoots Shoot Shoot, Shoot, Shoot Shoot. And what you find

1035
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: out very quickly is that Shoot is like the moby

1036
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: Dick for Louden in this film, right like, and when

1037
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: you fucking see the Shoot guy, he's carrying a log

1038
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: up these stadium stairs and he has the body of

1039
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: this like twenty seven year old marine. Yeah, and you're going,

1040
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: how the hell is this gonna happen? How the hell

1041
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: is is Matthew Modine gonna kick this guy's asset wrestling?

1042
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 2: And now, did you have a wrestling team at your

1043
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: high school? I?

1044
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: Yes, we did, but I that was such a mysterious

1045
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: world to me.

1046
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I feel, because I did not have

1047
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: a wrestling team at my high school, and so it

1048
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 2: always seems like a very strange sport or like mysterious

1049
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: or curious is I don't know, it was like a

1050
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: very curious sport. So anytime they showed any scenes of

1051
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: them like in the gym or the coach talking to them,

1052
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is just so unknown to me. They

1053
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: remember those scenes. There were a couple of scenes and

1054
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: the I'm not going to ruin the end, but there

1055
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 2: are a couple of scenes during a fight where they

1056
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 2: put their head, like their cheeks on each other's back

1057
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 2: when they're ready to go, like when they to start

1058
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: the match, like they kind of have to lay their

1059
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: head on each other's back. And I'm like, this is

1060
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 2: really interesting to look at, right.

1061
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: So, like, okay, you've got Louden, who is trying to

1062
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: lose weight to be in this like one hundred and

1063
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: sixty eight pound weight class, which again is this is

1064
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: a world that I don't know much about. I'm like, damn,

1065
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: that's crazy because Matthew Madean is already pretty lean and

1066
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: he's especially in this movie when he's young, and so

1067
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: because of that, You're like, wow, he is like trying

1068
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: to lose even more weight to yeah, fight this guy.

1069
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: And it's like he's doing all this stuff, which is

1070
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it's so disordered and it would basically

1071
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: kill anyone. But like an eighteen year old guy. Right,

1072
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: It's like he's working out, he's not eating, he's jogging

1073
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: in one of those like sauna suits. Yeah, and it's

1074
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: like all of this like excessive workout stuff and this

1075
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: like really bad.

1076
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: Runs everywhere, Like he just runs everywhere.

1077
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then it's like he's just standing around and

1078
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: he just starts doing push ups and shit, and he's

1079
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: giving himself bloody noses because he's just like going too hard.

1080
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, I feel like that. It was really hard

1081
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: to watch.

1082
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: Actually, And if that, if that movie, if this movie

1083
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: were made today, I think that would be addressed in

1084
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: a much bigger way.

1085
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Like I said, very very of the time. Right.

1086
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: And but here's the thing. Everybody on his wrestling team

1087
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: is like, this guy is a total fucking idiot. This

1088
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: is there's no way, there's no way he's gonna win,

1089
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: and he is a maniac of the highest order by

1090
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: doing any of this. I can't even believe.

1091
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: He's in the same weight class as Shoot. When you

1092
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: look at the two of them, you're like, how is

1093
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: this possible? Well, that's what that's what I was saying.

1094
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: I was like, Shoot looks like, you know, like in

1095
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 1: his late twenties, or way thirties. He looks like he's

1096
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: in the military. He's just jacked, and I'm kind of like, Okay,

1097
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: I guess they're both gonna way the same. Wait, I

1098
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: don't know. This guy looks like he's rippling with muscles.

1099
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 2: I also, I don't know what weight class he was in.

1100
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: But are we gonna mention that not only was Forrest

1101
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: Whittaker in this film, but his character's name is ball Dozer.

1102
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: Ah, I had no idea that was that.

1103
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: Young Forrest Whittaker plays a character called Balldozer.

1104
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 1: I had literally no idea that was his name. Thank

1105
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: you for telling me that. I just feel like I

1106
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: need I need to put that out there.

1107
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it is wild to watch this, like him getting

1108
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: ready for this fight and him training.

1109
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and like listen, so his entire, his coach,

1110
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: his wrestling team is like absolutely no. But he does

1111
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: manage to make a friend and it's this dude named

1112
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: Cooch spelled Kuh by the way, get your mind out

1113
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: of the gutter. Coach is played by Michael Schaffling. Okay,

1114
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: the man, the legend himself. At the time, Michael Schaffling

1115
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: had just filmed Sixteen Candles okay, and to that end,

1116
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: he's pretty much the exact opposite character from Jake Ryan

1117
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: in this movie. Okay, In Vision Quest, he plays his

1118
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: characters like this punk rock kid. He's from a bad home.

1119
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: He has a mohawk and a flannel shirt with a

1120
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: sleeves ripped off, the very road warrior. And not for nothing.

1121
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: I fucking love this guy. I love Coach. Look, he's

1122
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: on a motorcycle.

1123
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 2: He will not stop telling you that he's half Native American.

1124
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: Listen, we're gonna get to that in just a second,

1125
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: because that he is the He is basically the character

1126
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: that introduces Loud into the concept of the Vision Quest,

1127
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: which is what the movie is named after. In the book,

1128
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: uh and Couch says that he's half Native American, but

1129
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: guess what he lied? He actually lied. He's just simply

1130
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: a white dude. But as a guy who's like a

1131
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: weird spiritual jock in an eighties movie that carries around

1132
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: like a dirty duffel bag on a motorcycle. I fucking

1133
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:31,439
Speaker 1: love him. I love Cooch like I love good I do.

1134
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: Like he's just that guy. He's just like that punk

1135
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: rock you know, kind of spiritual like you know, right,

1136
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: around a motorcycle, like he's he's actually like a good

1137
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: foil for loud In because he's just kind of like

1138
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: he's always trying to ground him in some kind of reality,

1139
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: but then also ends up like encouraging him to see

1140
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: this match through because it's like, you know, obviously, you

1141
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: guys go look up what a vision quest is. I

1142
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: think we we sort of know the general idea of it.

1143
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: But you know, he's basically telling uh loud and like, hey,

1144
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: this is like a big deal, Like this could be

1145
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: a big deal for you. This could change your life.

1146
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: It's not just you being an idiot and wanting to

1147
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: prove some weird shit. This could be good, you know,

1148
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: like you have to go through something hard in order

1149
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: to have the experience or whatever.

1150
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 2: So and I like that because you kind of expect

1151
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: this character based on all the eighties jock movies that

1152
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: we've seen. You expect this character to be such a dick,

1153
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: but then he actually comes around to being a little

1154
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 2: bit supportive and like instantly is just like, yeah, you

1155
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: can fucking do it. Like let's he's very supportive in

1156
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 2: a teamweight teammate maate way that we rarely see it

1157
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: in eighties film.

1158
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: Definitely. And if, like I said, if you loved Jake

1159
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: Ryan but you just want him to have a mohawk,

1160
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: this is your movie. It certainly was for me. I

1161
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: was like, damn, I don't know how we could have

1162
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: improved on Jake Ryan, but we did it. And here

1163
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: we are just give just give him a dirty ass

1164
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: duffel bag.

1165
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: Jake Ryan Mermaids and then quit the biz. What a trinity.

1166
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. So at some point Loudin meets this girl named Carla,

1167
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: and she's played by Linda Fiorentino, okay, and she gets

1168
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: introduced to the film. She's her car breaks down at

1169
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: his dad's shop. His dad is is played by Ronnie

1170
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: Cox of Deliverance fame. Carla is three years older than Louden,

1171
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: a real cougar. I guess like those three years means

1172
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: so much at this age. She So, Carla's on her

1173
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: way to San Francisco because she wants to be an artist,

1174
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: and as Michael Stipe says, she is three miles of

1175
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: bad road. Like she actually tells Louden, I've been twenty

1176
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: one since I was fourteen. Oh good, And I mean

1177
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: she is out there by herself trying to drive across

1178
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: the country. You know, her car breaks down. She's like

1179
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: the she gets introduced and she's like yelling at a

1180
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: grown man, and she's got like a tough, little round

1181
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: bomber jacket. She's like real hot, and I'm like, she's

1182
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: from Trenton, New Jersey, liked. And this is the kind

1183
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: of gal that Louden does. I mean, he's like, she's

1184
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: twenty one and she's not like anybody I've ever known,

1185
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: like m He's in love with her almost instantly. And

1186
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: the weirdest part is that she's got nowhere to go

1187
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: because her car broke down, So guess what. She ends

1188
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: up staying with Loudun and his dad.

1189
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: Which again a remake of this movie now is that's

1190
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: a horror movie now, like you're in a house with

1191
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 2: two men to sis he men, you're driving across the country,

1192
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: nobody knows where you are, you getting murdered. But I

1193
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: like that in this, in this more innocent time, they

1194
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 2: were like, she could just live here, and let me

1195
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: tell you, she wastes no time. He gives her his room,

1196
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 2: his bedroom to stay in, and it's really bare like

1197
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: when she gets in there, it's like single bare light

1198
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 2: bulb like nothing, no decoration. She wastes no time putting

1199
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: her mark on that room. And it made me realize

1200
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: that pussy willows were the pompous grass of the eighties.

1201
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 2: They were fucking everywhere. You could not turn your head

1202
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 2: in a room without seeing a fucking branch. Pussy below branches,

1203
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: just stick it out of something. In the eighties.

1204
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: Ah, Listen, she was like, uh, I can't sit in

1205
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: this house with these two boys without putting up some

1206
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: pussy willows. Let me also make me feel like a woman.

1207
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: Throw a fucking gauzy scarf over a lamp because it's

1208
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 2: the eighties.

1209
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: Listen, Like for Carla comes in real tough, but we

1210
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: all know she's a sensitive artist, and she's just putting

1211
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: up a little bit of her front because she's had

1212
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: a hard life. And you know what ends up happening

1213
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: is she's the Every day she sits in this house,

1214
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: loud and becomes more and more of a horny dork,

1215
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: and suddenly his obsession with Carla is starting to sidetrack

1216
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: this mission to beat shoot Okay. Now, at the same time,

1217
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: Carla has been hanging out with one of Loudon's teachers,

1218
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: which suffice to say, really freaks him the fuck out,

1219
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: and Loudon has this like weird, maybe it's because he's

1220
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: starving himself. Maybe his brain is just like completely scrambled

1221
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: eggs right now because he like really like freaks out

1222
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: about this. I mean he actually kind of attacks her

1223
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: at one point, which is really disturbing. Uh. But then

1224
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: at some point they like travel to see his grandpa

1225
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: and then they hook up after, which was like, okay,

1226
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: uh that those sequences happened like really close together, and

1227
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh huh, I don't know, I don't know

1228
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: what She's.

1229
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: A choice, yeah, the choice. They weren't really focused on

1230
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: what she was thinking.

1231
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: Yes, uh, but you know what, like what ends up

1232
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: happening is they hook up, and then even more disturbing,

1233
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: Louden confronts his teacher and basically is like, hey, thanks

1234
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: for not fucking her. Cool teach, see you later. And

1235
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, what so wild? What can you imagine doing that?

1236
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: By the way, like going up to your teacher when

1237
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: you're like in high school and being like, thanks for

1238
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: not fucking my girlfriend.

1239
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: I can't imagine having the balls. I can't imagine being

1240
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: in the situation to do so, Like yes, these are adults.

1241
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: You're still you're still going to class, yes, And that

1242
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: teacher is basically like, okay, bye, Like this is weird

1243
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: dude get away. So you know, obviously Carli has to

1244
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: tell loud In at one point, get over me, just

1245
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: make the way, wrestle this guy. See this through. You've

1246
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,919
Speaker 1: already gone this far. Let's just get it done right,

1247
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: And he's like, I don't know, this sucks. I just

1248
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: want to be with her. I can't think of anything else.

1249
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: And then you know, he starts talking to the cook

1250
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: at the restaurant in the hotel and his name is Elmo.

1251
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: He's like a real tough like dude with like marines,

1252
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: tattoos and stuff. And he's like finally that he's like,

1253
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: go for it, kid, like this big pep talk involving Pele,

1254
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: and it's like, go do it. You have already starved yourself.

1255
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: You might as well fucking beat this, you know, fucking

1256
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: batty guy from the other school. And I won't give

1257
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: it away, but guess what. It has a very eighties

1258
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: sports coming of age movie ending, as you can imagine. Also,

1259
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: I have to say this we talked about there's a

1260
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: lot of wrestling stuff. In this movie, there's a lot

1261
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: of these like weird kind of like wrestling team rituals

1262
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: where they're like jump they do the thing where they're

1263
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: like laying down on the floor and then some guy

1264
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: gets up and has to like hopscotch over the dudes

1265
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: and then go lay down in the next open spot.

1266
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: Oh good, it's so weird. I've never seen anything like that. Also,

1267
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: the thing that haunted me the most and will continue

1268
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: to is that peg board thing that they have in

1269
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: the gym. What the hell was that? How fit do

1270
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: you have to be to fucking do that peg board thing?

1271
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 2: And that wasn't It didn't appear to me to be

1272
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: a double That was Modine.

1273
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: Okay, if we ever get Modine on this podcast, that

1274
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: is like one of the first questions I'm gonna ask him.

1275
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: It's like, did you actually do that peg board where

1276
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 1: you had to pull your entire body weight up on

1277
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: these like pegs and climb up to the top, Like,

1278
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: I can't imagine being that fit ever, No, No, I

1279
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: hang from those pegs.

1280
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 2: On the bottom rung. I'm gonna crack those pegs off

1281
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: in the hole.

1282
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I couldn't even get it up one.

1283
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like she hear me just hanging with my

1284
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 2: body weight and just giving up instantly.

1285
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: I would just crack them off in the fucking hole

1286
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: dually down. The wooden dolls just split and then we're

1287
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: both like on the map being like, can I have

1288
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: a hand card to wheel me out of this gym?

1289
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 1: Right now? I can't move?

1290
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: Can you just pick up one of these remember those

1291
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 2: mats that I used to have in the eighties, Like

1292
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: they would fold out in threes and fours?

1293
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: Uh huh?

1294
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 2: Can you just like get me one of those mats

1295
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 2: and pop just open a couple of them, pop me

1296
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: on it and just slide me out.

1297
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Or you could make it a little ten and

1298
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: I'll just live here.

1299
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: I will.

1300
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have to be better. Well, I have

1301
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: to say, I mean, we this movie is very eighties.

1302
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: It is enjoyable. I mean it's not like the best

1303
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: movie of all time, but it's very enjoyable. Matthew Modine

1304
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: is such a cutie. You got young Forced Whittaker. You

1305
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: also have young Daphne Zuniga, my queen. She's in this film.

1306
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: And also you know, There's Crazy for You is the

1307
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: obvious huge hit of the film, but there's also, like

1308
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: so many other eighties movies on the soundtrack Lock there's

1309
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: that Journey song not for Nothing. There's that song Hard

1310
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: in My Heart by corn Or Flash. When I was

1311
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: a kid, I thought that song was literally like a

1312
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,560
Speaker 1: song that like sexy women who lived in like penthouses

1313
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: in New York City would would listen to while they're

1314
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 1: like getting ready for their date. They're like zipping up

1315
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 1: the side zipper of their leather skirt with their matching

1316
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: sweater that had like shoulder pads in it and shit,

1317
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: and then they do that like Duran Duran rio blush

1318
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: like streak, and then it's like that song the saxophone

1319
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: of that hard in My Heart is playing when they're

1320
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: getting ready. I mean, that song is epic for me.

1321
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: To those kinds of moments, those eighties rocker girl moments.

1322
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: For sure, yes, but but for me obviously it had

1323
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: to be about crazy for you, and absolutely it's the best.

1324
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: It's so it's still one of the most romantic songs

1325
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: I love. I listened to it all the time, even

1326
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: though Madonna singing those high notes TVD, TVD, but the

1327
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: songs still rocks.

1328
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, I listen to my song all

1329
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: the time too.

1330
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: I listen to your song and have a fucking breakdown

1331
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: every time.

1332
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: Oh, let's get let's get into it. So my film

1333
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 2: was released in nineteen eighty four. The screenplays by Eric Hughes.

1334
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 2: It was directed by Taylor Hackford, who is mister Helen Mirren.

1335
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: And my film is Against All Odds? What is it?

1336
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: You don't like exactly? Football players, tacos or beer. I

1337
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: like tacos and I like being against all odds.

1338
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: Just like the hardest fucking name for a movie that

1339
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 2: is basically about people fucking and tumbes in Mexico. Like,

1340
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 2: I think against all Odds and I'm like, it's gonna

1341
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 2: be about sports, gonna be up race cars, it's gonna be.

1342
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: Up fucking monsters.

1343
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 2: No, it's about an heiress and a football player.

1344
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:54,879
Speaker 1: Wow.

1345
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 2: So this movie is actually a remake of a film

1346
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 2: called Out of the Past with stars who old butt

1347
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,839
Speaker 2: whole eyes himself for Robert Mitcham.

1348
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, he ain't just always a piece of shit,

1349
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: but kind of. I mean, he's not a murderer, I

1350
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 1: guess a murderer of children.

1351
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah he's not. He's not a child murderer in this

1352
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 2: in this out of the past. So will we will

1353
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 2: give him that, because that is saying a lot for

1354
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 2: old mitche old butt, whole eyes Mitcham. But Taylor Hackford,

1355
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 2: who I don't know if people know, is mister Helen Mirren.

1356
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 2: He has directed a lot of things. He directed Officer

1357
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: and a Gentleman. This movie was actually his first movie.

1358
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: After Officer and Gentlemen, he directed White Knights, which is

1359
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 2: where he met Helen Mirren during an audition for the

1360
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: film Ray and he directed the video for My Song,

1361
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: which is the Phil Collins Absolute Jam Against All Odds

1362
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: slash take a Look at Me Now. Now.

1363
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: The other thing.

1364
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: About Taylor Hackford that I think is worth mentioning is

1365
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: back in two thousand and nine he did sign a

1366
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 2: petition in support of Roman Polanski after Polanski was arrested

1367
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: in Switzerland. So I kind of want to say, fuck

1368
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 2: this guy, but just putting that out there, just putting

1369
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 2: that out there.

1370
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: And he didn't go to school for film.

1371
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 2: He's kind of started. I just thought this was interesting too.

1372
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 2: He started using a Super eight camera while he was

1373
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: in Bolivia with the Peace Corps, which I think is

1374
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 2: just wild. So he came to film in a really

1375
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: organic way. And then he made a movie that gave

1376
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: us a power ballad that didn't necessarily create the genre

1377
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: but absolutely dominates it.

1378
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean, can you think of another? I mean this

1379
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: was like the absolute eighties power ballad for me, Like

1380
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: I will never not think of my childhood listening to

1381
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 1: this song.

1382
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely just pure domination. It was written for the movie specifically.

1383
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 2: It plays at the end. Like I said, it plays

1384
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: instrumentally throughout, but it plays at the end. It won

1385
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 2: a Grammy in nineteen eighty five. It was Phil Collins's

1386
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: first number one song. And there is like there's a

1387
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 2: there's a Mariah Carey version, which I haven't listened to

1388
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 2: what I know, but like I'm reading this Wikipedia entry

1389
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 2: and I'm like, wait what, And so there's a Mariah

1390
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 2: Carey version that she does with Westlife.

1391
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: The British boy band.

1392
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 2: Yes, And I can't listen to it. I can't even

1393
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 2: entertain listening to it.

1394
01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: I can't.

1395
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 2: But it's out there if you want to. It's out

1396
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: there if you want to dig in. But this song

1397
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 2: is so powerful and so intense. And there is also

1398
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 2: there's an episode of This American Life, episode three thirty

1399
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: nine called Breakup and Starlely Kine listened to all these

1400
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: sad songs to get over a breakup and decides to

1401
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:23,839
Speaker 2: write and record one. But she heavily talks about how

1402
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 2: this song against All Odds was like a song that

1403
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: she actually quoted during the breakup because they used to

1404
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 2: listen to it together and like.

1405
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, did she what do you know what part? Yeah?

1406
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: How could you just let me walk away?

1407
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 2: Like that's the part that she says during the breakup.

1408
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, that's wild. That's wild. Oh.

1409
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: But that even better is she actually talks to Phil

1410
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 2: Collins about the song, and he's recently divorced. His divorce

1411
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 2: was like finalized on his birthday, so this song was

1412
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 2: written during his first divorce, and it's one of the

1413
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 2: first songs that he wrote by himself because when he

1414
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: was in Genesis, he was like the singer and the drummer,

1415
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: but he didn't write the songs. And then he's been

1416
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 2: divorced three times. So by the time he's talking to

1417
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 2: Starley Kin, he's like, yeah, tell me about it.

1418
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: This song. I basically wrote this.

1419
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 2: Song and it ended up being like a fucking portent

1420
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: for my goddamn life.

1421
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is crazy.

1422
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is wild. You have to, like you haven't

1423
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: already heard that episode, It is worth listening to episode

1424
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 2: three thirty nine of This American Life. But yeah, he

1425
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 2: wrote this song during his first breakup and his I

1426
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 2: guess his first wife took his kids and they went

1427
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 2: back to England or something like. He was living somewhere else.

1428
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 2: He was recording and traveling and he's just like, how

1429
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 2: could you take my kids? Like it was intense to

1430
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 2: listen to him talk about it, But then it kind

1431
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 2: of answers one of my main questions, which is like,

1432
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 2: why is this song so good because the movie is not.

1433
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: The movie is not.

1434
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this movie is a pure vehicle

1435
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 2: for Jeff Bridges looking as hot as humanly possible.

1436
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I could I could not agree with

1437
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: you more that. Okay, there's a part of me that

1438
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: wonders if Jeff Bridges was being objectified in this movie.

1439
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: That's how hot he was. Like there are times where

1440
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: he's literally just like sitting around with his shirt open,

1441
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: showing that that those washboard tanned abs.

1442
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm just gonna answer that for you right now.

1443
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 2: He was one hundred percent being objectified.

1444
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: Yes, because this movie.

1445
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 2: Suffers from a little something I like to call eighties excess.

1446
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 2: There is way too much going on in this movie. Yes,

1447
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 2: And it was they basically to my in my mind,

1448
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: just said, all right, there's too much going on. You know,

1449
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 2: let's just focus on Bridges and his being tanned and hot.

1450
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: Look, uh, I fucking love to see it. Not gonna

1451
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 1: lie because you know, here's a guy who I'm like, Oh,

1452
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: this is the guy is like the hottie in the film,

1453
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 1: and they're trying to get his shirt off at every

1454
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: chance they could, and I'm here for that shit, like absolutely,

1455
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: and also too, if you only know Jeff Bridges is

1456
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:26,879
Speaker 1: the fucking dude, you're like, oh, this guy was a

1457
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: total hunk. He had that beard, He's wearing all those

1458
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: like Banana Republic clothes and shit, and like he's like,

1459
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, Aviator sunglasses. Listen. I went on record on

1460
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: the Big Chill episode and thought, I was like that

1461
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 1: classic male look of like the khakis and the fucking

1462
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: like white button up shirts. I'm like, I can't help it.

1463
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: I love that shit. And he is wearing the fuck

1464
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 1: out of these clothes.

1465
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you only know him as the dude, you

1466
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 2: better do your homework because there is so much more

1467
01:18:58,439 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 2: to know about him.

1468
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was beautiful in this movie. Like I was

1469
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 1: like really surprised by because, like I said, I've never

1470
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: seen this movie before ever first watch, and I was stunned.

1471
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: He was like in that kind of like Paul Newman

1472
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: kind of way where I was like, they are really

1473
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: showing him off.

1474
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 2: Good for him, sun bleached hair, like they really went

1475
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 2: for it, and he is the star of the show.

1476
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: He plays this character named Terry Brogan who is a

1477
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 2: professional football player who gets cut from his team because

1478
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 2: of politics and eighties excess and gets embroiled in this

1479
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 2: scheme with a former football player played by James Woods,

1480
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 2: who we do not like in the movie and in

1481
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 2: real life for me, but he's played by James Woods,

1482
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 2: and he basically goes to meet this old friend, Like

1483
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 2: this friend requests a meeting, so he goes to see him,

1484
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: and James Woods is like, look, I was this woman

1485
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 2: Jesse Weyler who's played by Rachel Ward, and she took

1486
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 2: fifty thousand bucks from me and then fucked off, and

1487
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 2: I need you to find her, and you don't have

1488
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 2: to bring her back you just have to tell me

1489
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 2: where she is. And Brogan's like, I've just been cut

1490
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 2: from the team. They're not gonna pay me. They're fucking

1491
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 2: me around, because again, there's eight plot lines in this movie,

1492
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 2: so I'll do it. So he takes his money to

1493
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 2: like he gets paid to basically find this woman and

1494
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 2: she just so happens to be the daughter of the owner.

1495
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: Of the team.

1496
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 2: Who is Jane Greer, classic movie actress Jane Greer.

1497
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, was she out of the past? I think she

1498
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 1: wasn't out of the past.

1499
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 2: I think she was an out of the past.

1500
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1501
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 2: So she's like reprising for this at a different role obviously,

1502
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: but like kind of cool to see her in this.

1503
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one as well.

1504
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 2: And she so Rachel So the Rachel Ward character Jesse

1505
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: Wiler has, she's already like this rich girl, but now

1506
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 2: she's stolen from this kind of gangster because James Woods

1507
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 2: like owns a nightclub and is into gambling and like

1508
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 2: that's what he decided to do with his post football career.

1509
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 2: So Jeff Bridge, He's like goes talk to her mom,

1510
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 2: and her mom's like, yeah, she might think she's hiding,

1511
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 2: but she's accessing her trust fund. I know for a

1512
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 2: fact she's in Cosmmeo Mexican. So he goes down there

1513
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 2: and finds her, and she hates football players. She's being

1514
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: like very spoiled bratty, and she's like, I didn't take

1515
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 2: that guy's money, and I hate football players. But ps,

1516
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 2: why don't you come out to my house? You can't

1517
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: leave without seeing it. It's the most beautiful spot in Mexico.

1518
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 2: I'm living out here like Hank Hill. I've got no

1519
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 2: electricity and only propane. And they fuck and they start

1520
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 2: this relationship where he's just like, oh, ps, forget about

1521
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 2: what I've been charged and paid to do, which is

1522
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 2: to find you and report back to Jake. I am

1523
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 2: going to Jake, who I also get into Porsche races

1524
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:06,560
Speaker 2: with on the fucking streets of La Oh weirdest. Stressful, stressful, stressful,

1525
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 2: especially because I recognize a lot of those roads, and

1526
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I can't, I can't. But he decides like,

1527
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm just gonna be with you and we'll

1528
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 2: make it work and we'll go to Fuckingchinitza and we'll

1529
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 2: have a whole new life and fuck all these people

1530
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: who are looking for you. I'm on your side now.

1531
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:31,959
Speaker 2: And there's also this subplot of like environmentalism and opening

1532
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: like a spot on a canyon.

1533
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: And like it's just too much.

1534
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 2: It's too much going on. But suff is to say

1535
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 2: that Alex Carris, who plays Hank Sully, who is Brogan's

1536
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 2: one of Brogen's coaches on the football team, he is

1537
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 2: also embroiled in this somehow because at first you're like, oh,

1538
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 2: he's just a football coach who's like taking care of

1539
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: his players and is on their side. And then you

1540
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 2: learn once he shows up to this like pyramid they're

1541
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 2: running around with a gun and tries to fucking kill him,

1542
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, he also works for Jake Wise. So

1543
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 2: now because Brogan didn't bring Jesse back, you've got Jake

1544
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 2: being like, I'm gonna send your fucking coach to come

1545
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 2: get you. It's very convoluted, and I'm gonna come get

1546
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 2: you while you're in are in full coitus in the

1547
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 2: sweat room. I mean this, this movie is basically as

1548
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 2: close to porn as Jefferds as ever gonna get.

1549
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: A imagine going to a tomb and in some like

1550
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: historical section of a foreign country and seeing two people

1551
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: fucking and then no, and then realizing it's your friend.

1552
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: Like the way that he rolls up on him is

1553
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 1: very chill considering the circumstance.

1554
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I see you fucking I'm gonna turn around

1555
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 2: and give it your privacy.

1556
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:09,879
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna try to shoot and kill you. Also,

1557
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: you said in the episode not too long ago with

1558
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: Kurt brown Oler about how funny Grandpa is in your

1559
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: wheelhouse romantically. Now for me, it's Webster's dad.

1560
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 2: I mean, who knew Alex Carris first and foremost how

1561
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 2: I was introduced to Alex karras or even h he

1562
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 2: was a fucking professional football player back in the day.

1563
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: He was Webster's dad exactly. He adopted a little black boy.

1564
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: It's like now I'm at the age where I'm like

1565
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 1: Webster's dad is hot, Like this is a hot guy,

1566
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: Like if he was on a dating app, I would

1567
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: definitely swipe right on him.

1568
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean, I'll give you.

1569
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: I'll give that to you.

1570
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 2: I was more focused on Jeff Bridges fucking in a

1571
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: stone sweat room, but I'll give it to you.

1572
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm getting in addition to Jeff Bridges being like a

1573
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: male Adonnis a shirtless himbo hunk. I actually think that

1574
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: Alex Carris in this era is a hottie. I mean

1575
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: back in the day, I was like, oh, he's a dad,

1576
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: he's Webster's dad. He is a guy with a mustache.

1577
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, eh, he could get it. He

1578
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: seems age appropriate now. Yeah, looking bike on this movie.

1579
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: You know my wheelhouse right now is funny grandpa. He's

1580
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: on the younger end of the spectrum. And that's fine.

1581
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: I'll take a young funny grandpa. Like you had your

1582
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:51,799
Speaker 1: kid when.

1583
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 2: You were eighteen. They had their kids when they were twenty.

1584
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 2: You're a young grandpa.

1585
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it always cracks me up how he just

1586
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: discovers them in the tomb. Oh my god. You know,

1587
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, what's up. I didn't even realize

1588
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: that you were in Mexico at all.

1589
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 2: And then when when when Brogan runs out and.

1590
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 1: He's like, what the fuck are you doing here?

1591
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 2: Dude, Like, not only did you just catch me fucking

1592
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 2: but what are you doing here? Hi? This can't be

1593
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 2: a coincidence, so what the fuck?

1594
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: Oh, it's wild?

1595
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 2: And then the movie, Believe It or Not, gets more

1596
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 2: involved from there, like it just goes into like espionage

1597
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 2: and fucking running away and basically, I will save you

1598
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 2: the full synopsis and just say that by the end,

1599
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 2: by the end of this film, Jesse has made a

1600
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 2: deal that as long as Broken will be safe, she'll

1601
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 2: kind of fall in line and do her duties and

1602
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 2: you know, be the good daughter and all that shit

1603
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 2: and kind of, you know, she just agrees to basically

1604
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 2: live a life that she never wanted to live to

1605
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 2: save Broken.

1606
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:00,879
Speaker 1: And so the song, the song again and stall odds

1607
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: it is.

1608
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 2: This song is the king of emotional upheaval. Like, I

1609
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: don't know how you listen to this song and you

1610
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: do not get emotional. So if you're sad, it's like, oh,

1611
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 2: do you want to cry while a middle aged man

1612
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 2: goes hard to the point of screaming about a breakup. Yes,

1613
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 2: you do, because the build up in this song and

1614
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 2: the crescendo is part of the perfection, Like the way

1615
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 2: it just inches up from like I'm thinking about it,

1616
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:35,799
Speaker 2: I'm sad, I'm quietly singing.

1617
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm singing a little bit more.

1618
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 2: Here's all my fucking emotions, Like I am pouring my

1619
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 2: heart out in this song.

1620
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: Dude, when he finally is like, ah, so understand, and

1621
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: he like, he just he I can't form the words

1622
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: like now he's just having like a guttural co Yes,

1623
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 1: he's having a Joe Cocker moment.

1624
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 2: He goes Joe Cocker like the scale of like singing

1625
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 2: a song to I don't know, but if I feel

1626
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 2: it's passionate. I don't know what you're saying, but it's

1627
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 2: passionate tiptop Joe Cocker scale.

1628
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: Also, I don't know if you've noticed this, I shured

1629
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: in in the song, he goes from saying against the

1630
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 1: odds to sing against all odds, all odds, where I'm like, damn,

1631
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: it's like the last time he says that. He says

1632
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: it's against all odds, and I'm like, that means he's

1633
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: really fucking He's like realizing that shit ain't coming back.

1634
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 1: This is over. It's against all odds, not just the odds,

1635
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: not just the odds, which he says very calmly in

1636
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 1: the beginning, like you know you're coming back to me.

1637
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 2: It's against the odds means it could happen. And then

1638
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: by the time he's screaming at the end, he's like,

1639
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: oh fuck, you're.

1640
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: Not coming back. This is never gonna.

1641
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: Happen all fuck, it's deep. That is some philosophically deep shit.

1642
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 2: And it's also like, if you're not sad and you

1643
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 2: and you're listening to this song, it's just kind of like,

1644
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 2: do you want to go hard to the point of

1645
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 2: screening just because it's a Wednesday?

1646
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: Like this is the song for you? I have to

1647
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: be honest, I think, you know, now, having finally finally

1648
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: watched this movie, I feel like the movie maybe doesn't

1649
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 1: rise to the occasion of.

1650
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 2: The song exactly. You know, it really doesn't. It doesn't

1651
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 2: because it's too convoluted.

1652
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 1: Too convoluted, But also like I guess maybe I thought

1653
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 1: that the movie was going to be as gut wrenching

1654
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 1: as the song, and it really is just kind of

1655
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: like a Neoa War. I mean, obviously it's like a

1656
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: remake of Out of the Past, but it's that thing

1657
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 1: where I'm like, yeah, I just thought it was gonna

1658
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know, something like much sadder and

1659
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: much more gut wrenching. And it's because the song told

1660
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 1: it would be.

1661
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 2: Yes and the video, which Taylor Hackford also directed. The

1662
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 2: video for the song, which features so many moments from

1663
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 2: the film you're like, Oh, they're gonna have like an epic,

1664
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:11,879
Speaker 2: intense breakup.

1665
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be heart wrenching.

1666
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 2: And by the time it happens, you're like, oh, she

1667
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 2: just kind of gives in to being a rich fucking woman.

1668
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Even at the end when that neon triangle shows

1669
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 1: up and then like all three characters are like at

1670
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: every corner of the triangle, I'm like, what the fuck

1671
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 1: is that?

1672
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 2: Okay, this is something else. It has to be said.

1673
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 2: This video is eighties perfection, like a neon triangle rising

1674
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 2: above water. What was everyone high in the eighties? Yes,

1675
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 2: what the fuck was going on in that video? But

1676
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 2: it is just Phil Collins just belting it out and

1677
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 2: he's like, look, I know I have a receding hairline.

1678
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: I know.

1679
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 2: You know me as the that's the drummer from Genesis.

1680
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 2: Here's where my fucking life is right now. Here's who

1681
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 2: I am as a man in the world. I am

1682
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 2: this guy. I'm heartbroken, i am sad.

1683
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,640
Speaker 1: And I want you to know about it. Yeah, I'm

1684
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: wearing this giant blazer, like a giant blazer. Did you Okay,

1685
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure you thought this too. Correct me if I'm wrong,

1686
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: But did you not think Phil Collins was like the

1687
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: oldest guy in the world when you were a kids.

1688
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, watching this video and listening

1689
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 2: to this song, I'm like, he has to be sixty.

1690
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, this is like someone's dad and

1691
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 1: he's a famous pop star. Yeah, and now I'm pretty

1692
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 1: sure we're older than he was.

1693
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 2: And that really absolutely, I would not be surprised to

1694
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 2: be like, oh, he was like thirty six when he.

1695
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 1: Wrote that song. Yeah, that was like that whole this

1696
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: whole movie, this whole song Phil Collins. These were all

1697
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 1: things that I would just observe as a child and

1698
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: just imagine that this was what being an adult, an

1699
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 1: adult was like, I'd be like, yeah, this movie adults

1700
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 1: listening to the song after Divorce, Phil Collins singing it Like.

1701
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: I just was like so informed by all of these things,

1702
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 1: because of of course, we've talked about this, like we

1703
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 1: were obsessed with adulthood, We wanted to be older. We

1704
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:21,759
Speaker 1: were always like, you know, moving towards like older forms

1705
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 1: of entertainment, like movies that were not for kids and

1706
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 1: TV shows that weren't for kids. So of course this

1707
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: was like fucking catnip to me. I was like Phil

1708
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Collins singing in a triangle with in a blazer with

1709
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 1: or standing hairline about some fucking two people on a

1710
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: beach make it out Like I was like, I'm in sold.

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01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: Also, Phil Collins and that blazer walked so that Steve

1712
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 2: Harvey and his blazers could fly. I do not think

1713
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 2: it's a coincidence that both men ended up shaving their

1714
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 2: heads yeah and pop it on those big shoulder pad blazers.

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01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 1: No, I just I just think that this song is

1716
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 1: so much.

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01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 2: Better than the movie, and and it's more evocative of

1718
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 2: emotion than the movie actually gives us. And it is

1719
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 2: a standalone hit for a reason. Yeah, because it is

1720
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:23,560
Speaker 2: an epic again epic power ballad. I believe it dominates

1721
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,759
Speaker 2: over all other power ballads. And to me, it's Phil

1722
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 2: Collins's best song. I think it is his best solo song.

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01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not counting the one Easy Lover. We can't

1724
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: count Easy Lover because it was a it was a

1725
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:41,480
Speaker 1: duet because that song is fucking unbelievable.

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01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but those are the rules, Like if solo, it's

1727
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 2: this duet of course is easy Lover?

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01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 1: Yes? Well, and that's that's an interesting concept too. And

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01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 1: I think this is like both of our films, right,

1730
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 1: is when the song becomes more than the movie, And

1731
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: that has happened many times. I mean it's kind of

1732
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:02,959
Speaker 1: that way with Bodyguard. It might be that way with Titanic,

1733
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 1: although I've never seen it, so don't get on my case.

1734
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying like, sometimes the song like becomes

1735
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 1: bigger and more everlasting than the movie that it's from,

1736
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 1: and then when you go back and you watch the

1737
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 1: movie that it's from, You're like, oh, this is just okay.

1738
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 1: This is just an okay film.

1739
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this is just passable compared to the

1740
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,799
Speaker 2: emotion that I felt listening to these songs.

1741
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, and I gotta be honest. I

1742
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 1: mean in this film, I mean it has good bones, right,

1743
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's like a remake. It has you know,

1744
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:40,600
Speaker 1: original noir you know actors. I mean not just you know,

1745
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 1: Jane Greer, but then Richard Widmark, who was a noir guy.

1746
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 1: He plays that weird character like her uncle, like yeah,

1747
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,560
Speaker 1: which I'm like they introduced him and his whole storyline

1748
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 1: way later that it was too late, and then I

1749
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:58,759
Speaker 1: was like a henchman. I didn't understand. I didn't understand

1750
01:34:58,760 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 1: what this guy was about.

1751
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 2: Susie Kurtz is in it, and she ends up having

1752
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 2: a bigger role, but when you first meet her, you're like, huh, I.

1753
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it was all this like weird stuff that

1754
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 1: you know. The movie I guess maybe didn't didn't make

1755
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 1: a lot of sense for me, but you know, there

1756
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 1: are moments where, again like that, it was like Jeff

1757
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 1: Bridges looking extremely attractive and kind kind of the only

1758
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 1: thing I might remember about this movie. Unfortunately, it's the

1759
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 1: song and him being shirtless for no good reason.

1760
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 2: And just you know, just running him shirtless and running.

1761
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 1: Like that's enough. I'm fine. I'm fine with that.

1762
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 2: You've got on to make incredible, award winning films. You're

1763
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:55,640
Speaker 2: allowed to speaking of relaxation, Jeff Bridges, You're allowed to

1764
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 2: relax and just have a fuck movie on the beach

1765
01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 2: in Mexico.

1766
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you deserve it. You deserve it. Listen, Daniel. I mean,

1767
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 1: I am so fucking happy that I do a podcast

1768
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 1: with you about movies, because you really do make me

1769
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:12,600
Speaker 1: watch stuff that I have like not to say that

1770
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 1: I would have never seen a movie this movie, because

1771
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 1: I did obviously have a curiosity to see it because

1772
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 1: it's just an eighties film. But like I you forced

1773
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 1: me to watch it finally, and I'm actually happy that

1774
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 1: I did. I'm glad I watched it. Yeah, and that

1775
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 1: makes me happy too.

1776
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's the same like I'm

1777
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 2: always introduced to things that I'm like, oh, I always

1778
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 2: meant to watch that, or I'd heard about that, and

1779
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 2: so like I've definitely seen Vision Quest, but if I

1780
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 2: also know that, like you have introduced me to a

1781
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 2: wealth of films that I would otherwise not have watched

1782
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 2: or haven't watched yet. And it's just always it's always fun.

1783
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 2: It's always fun.

1784
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 1: Well, when it comes down to it, I feel like

1785
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 1: Phil Collins forced us to watch this.

1786
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:56,560
Speaker 2: Movie truly, truly because the way the man's singing is

1787
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:58,679
Speaker 2: damn heart out. I'm like, there's got to be something

1788
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 2: intense going on in this movie. And what is going

1789
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 2: on is Jeff Ridges is tan and shirtless, and we

1790
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 2: all need to know that that is part of his background.

1791
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 2: He's not just true grit, he's not just the old man.

1792
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 2: He's not just fucking Lebowski. He says, a hot motherfucker

1793
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 2: running on the beach shirtless and goddamn Mexico.

1794
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: And this fucking Prime.

1795
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 2: Wow dude, and he looks really tall in this movie,

1796
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 2: Like I guess I never realized he was tall. He

1797
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 2: looks tall in this movie. Yeah, yeah, look, you gotta

1798
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 2: get on this. But this was this was a blast

1799
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 2: to do. I love these DJ playing my motherfucking song episodes.

1800
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 2: And our next episode next week is it's something else.

1801
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm mixed sited.

1802
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 2: I do not know if people are gonna guess this

1803
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 2: theme or not, but I cannot wait to see what

1804
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 2: they think the theme is.

1805
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a weird double feature if you

1806
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 1: sit down for both of them at the same time.

1807
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 1: But damn, they're both good movies, so why the fuck not.

1808
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 1: The movies for next week are Midnight Cowboy from nineteen

1809
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 1: sixty nine and Beetlejuice from nineteen eighty eights. What the

1810
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: fuck the fuck? But it's gonna like two great films.

1811
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 1: No idea how they're coming together.

1812
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes it doesn't hit me until we're doing this part

1813
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:20,679
Speaker 2: of the show, like here are the movies next week,

1814
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,640
Speaker 2: where I'm like, I put myself in the position of

1815
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 2: the audience trying to guess the theme, and I hear

1816
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,600
Speaker 2: Midnight Cowboy and Beetlejuice and I'm just spinning out. I

1817
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:29,719
Speaker 2: don't know what the hell to think.

1818
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 1: Well, I love it, I love it.

1819
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 2: I wait, I love it too.

1820
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: Listen. If you want to email us, If your name

1821
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,640
Speaker 1: is Matthew Modine and you want to be on this podcast,

1822
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:42,479
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1823
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:46,679
Speaker 2: Biking, You're biking cruises and you want to sponsors, that's right,

1824
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:49,519
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1825
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com and look, you can send us

1826
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 2: your questions for the bonus episodes, your shorter your shorter questions.

1827
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 1: For the bonus episode.

1828
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 2: Sometimes you read them on the main when we have

1829
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 2: a guest us to send them in, and we have

1830
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 2: a po box. If you want to send us handwritten letters,

1831
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:06,520
Speaker 2: you can find it on the link tree on our Instagram,

1832
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 2: where you can find the rest of our social media.

1833
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 2: We are at I saw pawn on Instagram and Twitter.

1834
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, Danielle as always a fucking pleasure to

1835
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 1: do this podcast with you.

1836
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 2: Ah, that's your eighties power ballad about our podcast. We

1837
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:27,759
Speaker 2: should make one, we should get we should totally make.

1838
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 1: One well, so we can get Casey on that in

1839
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 1: five seconds, I think you would be thrilled.

1840
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 2: Our producer can do anything.

1841
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 1: He'll be like, he'll be the jelly Bean, like Madonna's

1842
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 1: producer for Crazy For You'll be like the our jelly

1843
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: bean and he'll just like make a power ballad for us.

1844
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:49,839
Speaker 2: You're like a small request, Casey, become jelly Bean Benita,

1845
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 2: real quick, real.

1846
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: Quick, until next week, See you soon.

1847
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production, produced and mixed

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01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 2: by Casey O'Brien. Our theme song is by Tom bry Fogel.

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01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:10,679
Speaker 1: Artwork by Garrett Ross.

1850
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 2: Our executive producers are Georgia Hartstart Caring, Tile Gareff, and

1851
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 2: Daniel Kramer. You can follow us on Instagram and Twitter

1852
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 2: at I Saw pod, and you can email us at

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