1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ and 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: Buck with you? Buck, what's going on? 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 3: Dude? Now? Too much? DJ? Like, Man, did you see 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: me in the advanced copy of that Top fifty. 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm over here just salivating get these conversations that we're 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: going to talk about, because man. 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: Got some spicy, so spicy things that are going out 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: up here. Yeah, we can hit on this thing here today. 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: A little bit shorter episode coming your way, but a 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: little Top fifty review here, and I'll start you off 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: here at the very top. Buck didn't change anything for 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: Nanna Mendoza. I thought about it. I mean I've said Mendoz, 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: I've had him as the top player in the draft 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: through the whole process. I'm going to just continue to 16 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: ride that out. Spoiler alert. I do have a little 17 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: higher grade on Jeremiah Love, but I put him at too. 18 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: I put him out too. He stayed there, so I 19 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: got Mendoza one. Jeremiah loved two styles. I think I 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: had him at five. I moved him up to three, 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: so I moved him up ahead of the edge rushers. 22 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: I just thought he's such a rare commodity, like you 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: just don't see guys at that position that do everything 24 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: that he does. I think he's a total outlier, freak show. 25 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: So he is three for me. Bailey stayed at my 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: top edge. He's four. Five is rvel Reese. I'm still 27 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: listening to him as an edge. I know people have 28 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: talked about does he play off or on? I just 29 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: think he has the upside for more impact on the ball. 30 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: Carnell Taate moved up a spot that forty times I 31 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: could care less, and there's all this discussion. What it 32 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: was in the four four is four to fives. He's easy. 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about him. Rubin Bain, I think I 34 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: dropped one spot with those arms, so it was not 35 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: a surprise that his arms came in really short. Knew 36 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: it going into it. I think he's one of those 37 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: rare guys that can overcome it. So he's seven. Caleb 38 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: downs at eight. I think I think I flipped him 39 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: in Delaine Mansuewar. Delaine a little smaller than I thought, 40 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: so that was enough to just they're right there, eight nine, nine, eight, whatever. 41 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: So I've got downs at eight. Mansewar Delaine nine and 42 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: Maui Noah, the big tackle from Miami is ten. 43 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 44 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: No, I think it was interesting, right, and I'm gonna 45 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: take the view of the It's interesting to see my 46 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: drafts where we have the tackles up there, but then 47 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: the tackles not necessarily included at the top of the 48 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: charts when it comes to your top fifty lists. The 49 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: other part that stands out to me is Sunny Styles 50 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: because I have this this thing beating into my head, 51 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: like off ball, linebackers aren't valued at that unless they 52 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: can rush the passer. But then he has not only 53 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: a phenomenal workout, but he's a rarity at a time 54 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: where everyone is looking for the jack of all trade 55 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: safety that can play in the post, play in the box, 56 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: do a bunch of things. You have a six five 57 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: and forty four pounds former safety who's playing linebacker, who 58 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: can hit, run and cover. 59 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: With Olympic like traits. 60 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: He's like an Olympian when it comes to speed quickness 61 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: in those things. The only thing that I word back, 62 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: because I'm going back and I'm looking at my notes 63 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: on Sunny Styles is Man, I just wonder why the 64 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: production and impact doesn't match all of the things, and 65 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: some of that is defense, and I think that's gonna 66 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: be the big part. Can you confidently build a plan 67 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: to maximize who this guy is? And I'm not saying 68 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: that he's this player, but I remember the conversation that 69 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: we had about Isaiah Simmons years ago and it never 70 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: quite worked out. I think the thing in Sunny styles 71 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: his favor is he is a linebacker. He's always been 72 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: a linebacker, per se, like in this defense the last 73 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: couple of years, and I think it's an easier path 74 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: to get him on the field and have a clear 75 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: plan for how he's going to impact the game compared 76 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: to Isaiah Simmons, who also had freakish ability. 77 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, I think there's enough production there. 78 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: Twenty four he had one hundred tackles, six sacks, ten 79 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: and a half tackles for loss, five PBUs. This year, okay, 80 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: the tackles a two fewer games because they didn't win 81 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: the National championship. So fourteen games, eighty two tackles, six 82 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: and a half tackles for loss, how to sack, how 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: to pick? So I mean, I mean, he's he's making 84 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: plays there. It's just man, they have such a dominant 85 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 2: defense and such a good group that it's a combination. 86 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: And we've talked about this with good teams over the years. 87 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: It's a combination of, well, there's other good guys you 88 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: got to beat to the football. They got to get 89 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 2: past the line of scrimmage order to get to you. 90 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: And then there's also that we're beating the breaks off team, 91 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: so we're not playing a full four quarters in a 92 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: lot of these games. 93 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I mean then he did that. Yeah, 94 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: that is true. 95 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: I think it's a I think he meets the threshold. 96 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: And this again, this is the conversations we'd have in 97 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: the room. Bring up a question, try and answer it like, Okay, 98 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: I think let's I think that's enough. I think that 99 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: it's not forty five tackles out there. 100 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: And that's that. That's good. 101 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: I think David Bailey as a top five guy, that's cool. 102 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: I think the questions about r vil Reese, I think 103 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: people have to have a clear plan for how you're 104 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: going to plan. We've seen a ton of athletes where 105 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: they go somewhere they don't have a plan. I think 106 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: you have to make a decision on day one, year 107 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: one where we're going to play them at primarily, and 108 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: then what can we add on this play? Is he 109 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: an off ball linebacker first? Is your edge rusher first? 110 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: I think that decision has to be made, and then 111 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: you can proximate, you can you can value him appropriately 112 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: on the board. Cardio tape is interesting, right because and 113 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: this I would say is the bad thing about the combine, 114 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: because the combine has a bit of a track and 115 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: feel meat to it. It feels like a track meet, right, 116 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: Sometimes a really good player can get lost in the 117 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: sauce by all these guys that are blissing the track 118 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: and the reported whatever four or five for for yeah, 119 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: four or five four four five seven whatever that is 120 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: now in the stands, it's always going to be different. 121 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: When we got the handhelds. He's plenty fast enough. We 122 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: see the speed on tape. It's just interesting the perception 123 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: that hovers over him now because there were so many 124 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: other fast whiteouts that he appears to be a slow poke, 125 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: even though most of us will say, hey man, this 126 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: dude is the best, if not one of the top 127 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: three in a draft class hands down. 128 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: So I don't know if you've had a chance to 129 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: check this out yet. I'll send you a link to it. 130 00:05:55,240 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: But the NFL dot Com slash iq, So the NFL 131 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: IQ is all set up there now, so you can 132 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: go in there and you can look at It's incredible, dude. 133 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: I've been playing with this thing for a couple of days. 134 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: But you can go through and you can find all 135 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: the information on the teams out the rosters. In there. 136 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: They'll have their AAV like what's their average annual value 137 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: from a salary standpoint. It'll have the age of their 138 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: players on their roster, have all their draft picks, their needs, 139 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: and then you can go through the draft class and 140 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: they have all the data in there. So like I'm 141 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: pulling up wideouts right now and looking at their mphs, 142 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: so you can look at their miles per hour on 143 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: their forty and they're eventually going to believe They're eventually 144 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: gonna have the numbers in there through their workout as well. 145 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 3: But so you look at, like how fast is he running? 146 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: From that standpoint, Carnel Tate hit twenty two sixty eight, 147 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: so twenty two miles per hour, which is right along 148 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: is actually the person right below him is Skyler Bell, 149 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: who ran four to four flat. He hit a faster 150 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: miles per hour than Chris Brasel who ran four to 151 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: three seven. So to me, it's like that's where you 152 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: get to the track thing, and that's just the start. 153 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: Like he's just obviously not getting the same in the 154 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: same start, and I can see that, I'm sure in 155 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: the ten. So when you look at when you look 156 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: at you know, going through all this data, which is 157 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: kind of fun to come through. So he had a 158 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: one six one ten and then you look at Skyler 159 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: Bell right behind him had a one five three. So 160 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: that's why he ran four to four to ohero. But 161 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: he ran four five three. But the eyes didn't deceive 162 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: you when you're watching the tape and you see him 163 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: separating vertically. He can run. Hes just not a starter. 164 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: He's a build speed guy down the field. He's a 165 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: vertical guy. 166 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about striders and how guys kind of 167 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: gaged round down the field and kim blow past you. 168 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: The other thing that we do know, DJ, and you've 169 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: talked about it when it comes to drafting, the rams 170 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: have been able to line. 171 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: Up and use GPS stuff and being able to get that. 172 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: So as much as we obsess over these forty times, 173 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: guys kind of know who can run and what they're 174 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: topping yet. 175 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: Anyway, Tita is interesting. Some of these other guys interesting. Yeah. 176 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: Man, if you're big, physical with ball skills and you're fast, 177 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a problem. 178 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: He's plenty fast enough. 179 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to eleven to twenty here. So 180 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: we get to eleven. Makaya Lemon didn't really move him 181 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: much on here. He stayed there. Yoane Venga yoanne Is. 182 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: He's at number twelve, guard from Penn State, followed by 183 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: Sadik tight End from Oregon. I have Fano has not moved. 184 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: He's still my fourteenth. The only thing that moved his designation. 185 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 2: I just kicked him. I said he's going to be 186 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: interior guy, so I put him as an interior guy 187 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: instead of a tackle. Jermald McCoy goes to fifteen. McNeil 188 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: Warren from Toledo. He's at sixteen, about where he was 189 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: THEENEM and moved up a few spots right behind him. 190 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put those guys as kissing cousins right next 191 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: to each other and we'll get there. We're going to 192 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: really dig in on them and sort that one out. 193 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 2: But I'm going to let them travel together. Here at 194 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: this point in time, Omar Cooper Junior, who ran great 195 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: he is He's eighteen, followed by Blake Miller at nineteen, 196 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: the tackle from Clemson, and Freeling from Georgia is at twenty. 197 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: You'll see the theme as I go through this list, Buck, 198 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: I had so offensive tackles. 199 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: Six of them. I moved up six of them. 200 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's another thing when it comes that, I think 201 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: you believe that. Hey man, we're all going to the 202 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: pool together. So get a buddy. Yes, I noticed that 203 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: we got guys traveling together at the I notice we 204 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: got Blake Miller and Monroe Freeling. 205 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no. Hold his hand. We're going 206 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: to the pool together. You don't leave him. 207 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: We have some of these guys traveling together because hey, 208 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 209 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: We may do a flip. 210 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: But the offensive tackle class is interesting because early going 211 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: into the comment, we were talking about man like this 212 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: is a right tackle heavy class, which is so odd 213 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: for us as scouts because we always value to block 214 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: side guy over the right tackle. But this year is 215 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: just different with Mawnoa and Fano and those guys haven't 216 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: played extensively on the right side. 217 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: Then you look at some of the other guys on 218 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: the backside. 219 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: Blake Miller really being up there because I feel like 220 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: people have talked about Blake Miller, but we haven't fully 221 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: given him his de brief. 222 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: On my first list came out and I had Blake 223 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: Miller in the mix. I had a DJ chance to 224 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: see him, and it's like, oh wait, fifty four starts 225 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: you know outs DJ measurable? 226 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, like everything, Like I think he had what thirty 227 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: eight hundred snaps during his time I'm. 228 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: Looking at it. 229 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: He had pass blocking snaps twenty one eighty two pass 230 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: blocking snaps, Yeah, thirty seven hundred offensive snaps, and I 231 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: have talented technician like. 232 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: Everything DJ look I wrote down, he's a skip pulling specialist, 233 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: Like there's knowing this skip pool is better than Blake 234 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: Miller because he's had a lot of time on task 235 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: to do it. He has violence to his game, like 236 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: the way did he finished is on the perimeter. He's 237 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: good tone setter. Everything I wrote down because I felt 238 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: like people weren't talking about him underrated, but he's the prototype. 239 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a guy on the round and I've been 240 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: oh mountain type, Yeah, like that's yeah, he's good. And 241 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: I think because his buddy's traveling with him. Monroe Freeling 242 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: is interesting because look, man, you just don't see athletes 243 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 4: like this. 244 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: And I know we talk about a one year starter, 245 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 3: and there's. 246 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: Some things that pop up on tape you're like, Okay, 247 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: he's a little upright, the balance he falls off, but 248 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: they don't. You just don't move like this djil, like 249 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: left tackle, footwork, moving around, getting to the next level, 250 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: all this stuff, like guys. 251 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: Do not move like he moves. 252 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: And because of his athleticism, because of the upside and 253 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: all that, like. 254 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: He's gonna go and the debate is gonna be a naps. 255 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: Hundred nine hundred and nine pass blocks now so over 256 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: twenty one hundred for for Blake Miller, nine hundred and 257 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: nine for him, he's given up seven sacks. There's if 258 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: you want to find bad, you can find bad. But 259 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: the way I would frame it, if I'm in and look, 260 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 2: if you told me that Monroe Freeling was a top 261 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: ten pick in this draft as the number and somebody 262 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: made him the first offensive lineman in the draft, I 263 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised because I know how the argument goes. 264 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: I know that you can make the case in the 265 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: room that, look, you've seen this with other guys in 266 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 2: the past. You've seen it with like Colton Miller, and 267 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 2: even like Darrisaw would be another one where it's like, Okay, 268 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: some other people might get out the gate ahead of him. 269 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: There might be a little bit of some growing pains 270 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: involved here, but we're all going to look up three 271 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: years from now and if we don't have him, we're 272 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 2: going to look up and see him as one of 273 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: the better tackles in. 274 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: The league and go, we should have been paid, we 275 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: should have taken him. No One. We're playing a long game. 276 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: It's going to take a little while for him to 277 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: get the experience, but it's going to pay off big. 278 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: And so that's why I could see him. It wouldn't 279 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: shock me if he was the first one to go. 280 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: That's the case that you can make in the draft 281 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: of I couldn't like to me, I tend to be 282 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: a little safer. 283 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: So I'm looking at Blake Miller. I feel like, maybe 284 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: not the ceiling, but it's a high floor. 285 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: I know exactly what I'm buying. That's why I have 286 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: Blake Miller one spot over him. But you're a stude 287 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: and your point, Buck. They're right next to each other 288 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: for a reason, because I'm gonna have to work my 289 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: way through that little deal. 290 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: Now. 291 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: It's the same thing, DJ, I have Blake Miller with 292 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: a higher grade on my list in Freelan, and look, 293 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: Freelam's athleticism and all that, but like there's something to 294 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: the polish that Miller has. And I just think that 295 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: we talk about floors and ceilings. Freelam can have a 296 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: higher ceiling, but Miller right now has a higher floor, 297 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: and we talked about it. 298 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: This is baseball, man. 299 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: You can win a lot of games with singles and doubles, 300 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: and I just believe, like Blake Miller is a double 301 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: off the wall all day. I've seen this play for 302 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: a long time in the league, and I'm good with 303 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: I'm very comfortable with Blake Miller. 304 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: Yep. That's where That's where I have it. 305 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: So we get to twenty one, Jordan, and I want 306 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: to talk about him once we get through this here. 307 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: But Jordan Tyson twenty one, I've got Mesidor from Miami 308 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: Edge Rusher next, followed by Caden Proctor from Alabama, followed 309 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: by Lomo. So there's two more tackles traveling together. Denzel 310 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: Boston dropped a little bit. Twenty five, we get CJ. 311 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: Allen linebacker, Georgia TJ. Parker from Clemson, Casius Howell from 312 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: a and M. Colton Hood from Tennessee and Avion Terrell 313 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: from Clemson. Again, two corners traveling together. 314 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: I mean, those corners need to travel together. 315 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: And so it's funny right when we talk about Hood 316 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: and Torell, because when I look at those guys, to me, 317 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: they strike me as pro ready guys, even though the 318 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: guys listed ahead of them. They are things that leads 319 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: you to be like, man, I like this flash or whatever. 320 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: But when I think about guys that are going to 321 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: be picked in the bottom of the first round, guys 322 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: that are going to really good teams, I look at 323 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: both of those guys as one prospects we have of 324 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: full toolboxes, guys who have enough experience that you kind 325 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: of know what you're bringing into the thing. 326 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: And I don't want to call them safe, but I'm. 327 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: Gonna call them like steady Eddie, I know exactly what 328 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: I get him. When I put them on the field, 329 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm confident that, like hey, they're gonna hold up there. 330 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: Into the bargain in our system. I don't need them 331 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: to be heroes. They gonna just be the piece of 332 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: the puzzle that we need them to be. 333 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's absolutely I think I feel really good 334 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: about that clump of guys. We'll get to some guys 335 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: after him. I like a lot as well. Jordan Tyson. 336 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: I want to hit on him and also go back 337 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: to the Jermond McCoy. So Jermal McCoy I had earlier. 338 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: He was my fifteenth player out of Tennessee. I dropped 339 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: him a few spots, I believe, but it's been over 340 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: a year since he's had this aco. He doesn't do 341 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: anything at the combine, and then Jordan Tyson, what's the 342 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: what's the whole the whole thing on him? It's like, gosh, 343 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: the guy's an incredible talent, super gifted. He's not been durable, 344 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: he hasn't been available, he's been hurt throughout his entire career, 345 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: and then he can't go with the combine, Like, that's 346 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: not a small and significant thing to me when you're trying, 347 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: when you're making a first round pick and you've referenced it. 348 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: Ozzie's talking all. 349 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: The time, doubles doubles, doubles doubles, no strikeouts, taking risks 350 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: in the first round. We got to have solid guys. 351 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: Being available and dependable, and Durables is a big part 352 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: of that. Buck is a huge part of it. 353 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: And I say this confidently knowing that he man Jordan 354 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: Tyson is my favorite. 355 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: I have him number one of the things. 356 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: But the injury history is significant, and it's one of 357 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: those things after you worked through, and yeah, it could 358 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: roll out and turn out to be in your favor 359 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: if he goes, because his skills are there where he 360 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: can move around and make plays and run routes. But 361 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: I am concerned when these guys don't work out. And 362 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I need to see anything, but man, 363 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: you can't give me something to feel good on, you know. 364 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: And I know like pro days and whether they get 365 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: to the Pro Days or not. To me, I just 366 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: to fully feel confident in making him wide Receiver one, 367 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: I have to see him work out. DJ He has 368 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: to work out to like so I can see it 369 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: with my own eyes. I can't just go on the 370 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: film because the injury history is so significant, and the 371 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: same thing with McCoy and even I would say McCoy 372 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: more than he said all this time. 373 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: What I mean. 374 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: That, like, yeah, we've had a full year to recover 375 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: and at a time when it's always different for everybody, 376 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: six nine months, people coming back for a cls. 377 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: But man, if you can't move around and do some 378 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: of these things. 379 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: DJ, I have to go to the next one, even 380 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: though it's not a guarantee that the next man is 381 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: going to be able to get through the first three 382 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: years of his NFL career without an injury, just in 383 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: the terms of mitigating the risks, I have to go 384 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: to the next one. 385 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 386 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: No, to me, it's just yeah, it's just whether or 387 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: not how safe you want to be. Let's take a break, 388 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: we'll come back. We'll hit the rest of this list, 389 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: all right, Buck, we get next here, I not your 390 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: from from a state, So he is the He's the 391 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: thirty first player for me, followed by Kelbert Fulk Ed Rusher, 392 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 2: defensive lineman from Auburn. Casey Concepts You Own comes in next, 393 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: then Lee Hunter here's the dtackle group, Lee Hunter, Peter Woods, 394 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: Caleb Banks, then Anthony Hill Junior, followed by Tys Simpson 395 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: at thirty eight. I believe that yeah, and then I've 396 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: got Cad McDonald from Ohio State, and then I get 397 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: to Jenerian Price there at forty running back from Notre Dame. 398 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 399 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: Nice for Price to show up as a second running 400 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: back on this list. We talked about the defensive tackles 401 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: on the last episode where we had all those guys 402 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: clustered together and coming together. But I want to talk 403 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: about ty Simpson, and I think the conversation with Tyy 404 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Simpson is interesting because listening to the broadcast and hearing 405 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: you talk about him throwing Look, man, you can tell 406 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: he's a coach's kid because the footwork and all that. 407 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: The mechanics are flawless. It is clinic tape, is teaching tape, 408 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: the ball spins out and all that. But there was 409 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: nothing that Todd Simpson could show me in that workout 410 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: that would impact my opinion of him. The biggest questions 411 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: that we have about Todd Simpson size and frame, experience 412 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: and what led to the drop off at the end 413 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: of the season. Those are the things He can't change 414 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 1: his size and frame. He can't change his experience at 415 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: a time when history tells us that someone with fifteen 416 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: or fewer starts it traditionally doesn't work out well. 417 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 3: And the fall off I. 418 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: Need to know is the fall off due to an injury, 419 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: is the fall off due to defenses changing all of 420 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: those things? To me, he's going to be a gamble. 421 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: And whoever takes him, there's. 422 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: Nothing that they can say that they were confident that 423 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 3: he was the. 424 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: Guy is just Hey, we're rolling the dice and we're 425 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: believing that the kid would figure find a way to 426 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: figure it out. Or we have a developmental plan that 427 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: is going to buy him enough time that he's going 428 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: to be ready when we put him. 429 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: Onto the field. 430 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to see all the dust settles over 431 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 2: the next week where all these quarterbacks land. I think 432 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: that I'll have a clear picture of what it might 433 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: look like for him as we head towards the draft. 434 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: All right, Buck, let's get through the rest of these 435 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: guys here. Zion Young is forty one. Chris Johnson makes 436 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: his debut out of San Diego State at the corner 437 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: Malachi Lawrence Edge Rusher from UCF. He gets in there. 438 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: Brandon Ccey didn't get a chance to see him run 439 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: at the combine. I think he would have ran really, 440 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: really well, so that was a bummer. And then we 441 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: have got Jacob Rodriguez, R. Mason Thomas ed Rush from Oklahoma, 442 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: and then Keante Scott from Miami. And we finish it 443 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 2: up with Antonio Williams receiver from Clemson, Chase Pisantis interior 444 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: lineman from A and M, and then the last but 445 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: not least, Jeremy Bernard from Alabama. 446 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: I got one for you because I didn't see like 447 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: I overlooked Antonio william of the list. I have a 448 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: prominent wide receiver coach, a buddy mine who has read 449 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: starred Antonio Willsiams. 450 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 3: As really not a red star red star. Like, hey, 451 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 3: this dude has two stuff. He's gonna be terrific as 452 00:20:59,720 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 3: a pro. 453 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you looking at my notes, man, I 454 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: love what he's able to do and the punt return 455 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: skills he talked about it. It really matters the other 456 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: guys that we have talked about. Jacob Rodriguez, we talked 457 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: about his performance really confirming what we thought about him 458 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 1: as a player. 459 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: Brandon. See say in my notes, I wrote down Josh Norman. 460 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: Because his game is a little unorthodox in terms of stylistically. 461 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: He reminds me a lot of how Josh Norman was at. 462 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina before he became a Pro Bowl player with 463 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. 464 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 3: I'm in on him. Zion Young is interesting to me. 465 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 3: We talked about him. 466 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: I have down Danil Hunter in terms of someone who 467 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: can kind of be a much better pro than maybe 468 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: he's shown as a collegiate. 469 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: He has length, he has size, he has toughness. He 470 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: just kind of gets it going. I like him a lot. 471 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 3: So this list to me is perfect and inn price. 472 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: Some people already had him at RB two before the workouts, 473 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: but it's just so hard to find a big guy 474 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: that has explosiveness and legitimate return skills, legitimate return skills 475 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: in the kicking game when we're looking for bigger guys. There, 476 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: he checks off a couple of boxes in terms of 477 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: how he can impact the game. 478 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: Four Team one hundred percent excited for him and excited 479 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: for that next group of running backs as well. Your 480 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: guy from Nebraska, We've got the kid from Arkansas. I 481 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: think those guys are the next two running backs and 482 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: whatever order they go, and we'll see, you know, we'll 483 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: see those guys get an opportunity the next level. 484 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be really. 485 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: Really good players, but it was it was hard getting 486 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 2: these last few spots. A lot of candidates for those 487 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: last few spots. 488 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what it's going to be. 489 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: And we've talked about some drafts, like people talk about, man, 490 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: the numbers thirty five to fifty five. 491 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 3: Those players are like the same. 492 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: I think this draft you could expand that number out 493 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: thirty five to sixty five. You have some similarities where 494 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: guys are great and you can see him go either 495 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: middle of this early to second, middle of the third, 496 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: but it's the same player that you're getting. This is 497 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: where the fun part happens because now we're beginning to 498 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: get a general consistence on who the first round guys are. 499 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: To me, the conversations happen on a who are. 500 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: The day two guys that we need to know that 501 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: have the potential for whatever reason to be stars, but 502 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: they're gonna be overlooked in the process due to whatever 503 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: reasons causes them to be overlooked. 504 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 505 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: No, that's gonna be the fun stuff as we come 506 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 2: down the home stretch here, anything you want to before 507 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: we get out of here, Buck. 508 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 3: No, Man, this is fun. 509 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: Man. I love where we're at in the process, begin 510 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: to talk about the prospects and kind of get it going. 511 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: It's fun. 512 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: And then next week, once free agency starts, we'll be 513 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: able to play better matchmaker because we see how some 514 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: teams feel their respective needs. 515 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to the jumping on that and having 516 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: that discussion once we get free agency underway. 517 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: So appreciate you, appreciate everybody listening. 518 00:23:45,240 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: We'll see next time right here on with the sticks.