1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks Insiders. Cam Chanfer comes up 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: and just on load getting you ready for Seahawks football. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Every Sunday. Russell has time fires down and got his 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: bag on one he isn't touchdown. Startin powered by Seahawks 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: dot Com. Welcome to the Seahawks Insider Podcast. I'm Jen 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: Mueller alongside John Boyle from Seahawks dot Com. Hi Jen, 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: how are you? I am well? Has the Christmas magic 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: worn off yet? Hey? You know we're getting there. We 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: can still have the joy of the young and playing 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: with new toys. She's having fun with them. There you go, 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: and the tree will certainly stay up in my house 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: past New Year's because we will be spending New Year's 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: Day in Santa Clara, California. Yes, as many times as 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: I keep saying San Francisco locals, there will remind me 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: that it is nowhere close to San Francisco. We are 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: playing in Santa Clara and this Seahawks Seahawks Insiders podcast 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: is going to focus on that game against the Niners, 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: which will be the final regular season game for the Seahawks. 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: We already know that the Seahawks are hosting a playoff game. 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: We're waiting to see, though, John, is whether that is 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: going to be a wild card game or division matchup exactly. 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: There's still a lot of options on who they can play, 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: what seed they can be, and as you mentioned, if 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: they get a little help from the Saints down in Atlanta, 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: the Seahawks still have a chance with that two seed 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: to buy. But if the Falcons take care of business, 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: then the Seahawks will be playing the following weekend in 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: the wild card round. And everybody in that locker room 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: has talked about just how disappointing Christmas Day was coming 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: off of the Christmas Eve loss against Arizona, and they 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: acknowledge that the Cardinals have played them tough, not just 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: this year, but that's been a tough matchup, and considering 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: I guess that they don't control their own destiny anymore. 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: How would you describe kind of that vibe around the team? 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think they look at it as, you know, 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: priority one. You gotta take care of your own business 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: and not worry about who you're gonna play when you're 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: playing all that, But then you know, they realize that 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: if they could get the buy, it'd be great. Everybody 40 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: would love the rest, but they also understand that, you know, 41 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: the team that gets hot at the right time can 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl and no matter what they're out. 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Bennett mentioned you'd look at, you know, 44 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: wildcard teams that have won it recently, like the Giants 45 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: and the Packers. So look, it would it be better 46 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: to get that buy and get a week off and 47 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: be hosting the divisional around Sure, but they know that 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: if they don't, they still can. You know, everything's still 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: out there for him. I do get a pretty good 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: sense of confidence inside the locker room. If you talk 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: to people just out and about around town, I'm not 52 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: sure that they have the same level of confidence. So 53 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: here's what we're going to try to do. We're gonna 54 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: try to quell some of those fears and some of 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: those concerns a little bit. John, Why shouldn't be Why 56 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't people be worried about this Seahawks team? You know, 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing would be that if you 58 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: look at what this team has struggled against most the team, 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's like the Rams, the Cardinals, some of 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: these really tough defensive fronts have given them trouble. They're 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: probably not going to see. There's some good fronts in 62 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: the NFC, for sure, but maybe not you know, the 63 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: defensive lines quite as dangerous as those that just have 64 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: given them so many fits on offense. So I guess 65 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: that may be my biggest you know, if you're looking 66 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: for for optimism is I think this offense has shown 67 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: it can function really well in certain matchups and that 68 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: struggled in certain others. And then you know, it's you 69 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: want to be consistent, you want to be better. But 70 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: what they've done in the second half of the last 71 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: few games shows that when they're right, this offense can 72 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: be really good. Now it's finding it for four quarters 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: instead of the second two. Well, and so let's flip 74 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: the question around and say where is their reason for 75 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: concern because when you take a look at those second 76 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: half troubles, I think back so those playoff games last 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: year where it you know, Minnesota, let's throw that one 78 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: out because it was impossible to get anything going in 79 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: those conditions. But even in Carolina, you start slow, you've 80 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: got a lot of ground to make up, and they 81 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: almost had enough time to do it. But is this 82 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: a trend that we're starting to see late in the 83 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: season that's concerning or is it just different things that 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: they've got to patch up. I feel like it's more 85 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: kind of different unique circumstances from week to week, but 86 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: it's it's something they know, is it's an issue that 87 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: they want to address. I mean, Pete has always said 88 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: it's all about the finish and you can't win a 89 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: game in the first quarter, all that stuff, and that's true, 90 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: and they've shown it over time that they haven't always 91 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: been a great starting team and they still want a 92 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: lot of games. But there's a difference between not starting 93 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: great and finishing well versus digging yourself as hole as 94 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: you can't really get out of. And that's you know, 95 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: that's kind of what's happened at times that last week 96 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: was we're too because the offense got going and then 97 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: the defense struggle in the second half, and that's something 98 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: we don't usually see out of this team. So it's 99 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: it's just, I mean, the word of the kind of 100 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: the theme of the week round here has been consistency. 101 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: And it's not just the offense, not just the offensive line. 102 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of all over the place. They've had issues 103 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: in the kicking game crop up at times, so it's 104 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: just it's been a weird season and that they've shown 105 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: an a given week they can be really good, and 106 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: there the talents there and all that, but they just 107 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: there's times where issues pop up that they need to 108 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: get right if they're going to go on a run. 109 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: And a lot of folks have talked about, especially on 110 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, starting faster, like you 111 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: just said, So how do they do that? You know, 112 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: I talked to Justin Brittle a bit about this, and 113 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: it's a lot of it's just kind of the issue 114 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: of communication, everybody being on the same page and just 115 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: being sharp, because I mean, we saw it was night 116 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: and day what that offense and the line in particular 117 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: look like last week first half to second half. So 118 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: it's if they can just kind of be all on 119 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: the same page. And I mean, everyone's gonna tell you 120 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: it sounds Cloe shape, but they're gonna say it starts 121 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: in practice this week. It's it's getting prepared right so 122 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: that when you come out first series of the game, 123 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: you're doing things right and it's not taking you until 124 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: halftime to get it right. And then one thing that 125 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not trying to minimize the issues add 126 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: but it's amazing what one play can do to a 127 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: series where it's you know, you have a Jermaine Curse 128 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: gets engaged with the guy a little too early. It's 129 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: offensive pass interference that drives pretty much. First and twenty 130 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: is so hard to overcome. You miss one block, you 131 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: get a sack, the drive's kind of dead. So it's 132 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a huge thing to go from three 133 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: and out, three and out to maybe getting a touchdown 134 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: in a field goal early in the game. It's just 135 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: kind of cleaning up some of those little things well. 136 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: And third down conversions have actually been really good last 137 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: few weeks, including against the Cardinals. Yeah yeah, I mean 138 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: they've either been at fifty percent or one conversion away 139 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: from fifty percent and four straight games and second half, 140 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: much like everything else, that game, second half was a 141 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: lot better than the first thing. They only had converted 142 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: once in the first half. And again that goes back 143 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: to you get first and long second long. It makes 144 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: third down really tough, and I do think it starts 145 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: with that offensive line for a lot of different reasons. Yes, 146 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: Russell has to be right, but I'll tell you you know, 147 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: I've been on the sidelines. This is now eight years, 148 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: so I've seen Tom Cable for a number of years. 149 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: Here it was the most vocal I have ever seen 150 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,559 Speaker 1: him on the sidelines in the first half of that game. 151 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: And that's not even saying that he was yelling and screaming, 152 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: because Tom Cable is kind of this very even keeled guy, 153 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: and he was. He was certainly more demonstrative than I've 154 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: seen him. And the general message was nobody was the 155 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: combos weren't right. It was like everybody was hearing things differently. 156 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: They weren't firing off in the same way if you 157 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: get them going in the right direction, which, by the way, Marcel, 158 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: were you shared with me after having been with Tom 159 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: Cable as a head coach in Oakland. He said, you know, 160 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Capes isn't going to yell a whole lot, but the 161 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: minute he raises his voice, you know, you'd better get 162 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: on that because it is not going to be pretty. 163 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: You see what happens in the second half when you 164 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 1: do make that adjustment. But it's exactly what they said 165 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: that The conversation was, we're not seeing this the same 166 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: We're all doing kind of our own thing. Yeah, and 167 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: then I think it can kind of snowball on you guys, 168 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: especially when you've got young guys in there, is okay, 169 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: something goes wrong. And now there's a lot of talk 170 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: this week with coaches about guys overextending and overtrying and 171 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: all that. And it does like you miss a block 172 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: once because you miss assignment, and now maybe your head's 173 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: spinning a little bit and all of a sudden, it 174 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: can it can look pretty bad in a hurrying. It doesn't. 175 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: It's not always guys just getting physically beat or dominated. 176 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: It's just it can you know, one guy being in 177 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: the wrong place can make a play look really bad 178 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: and hurry. Yeah, and if you can't forget that and 179 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: move on. Here's the other quote that Marcelaries gave me 180 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: that I thought was really good. He said, you know, 181 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: being composed can be your biggest asset in the huddle 182 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: and making sure that you can move on. And so 183 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: if that's the kind of messaging that he's helping some 184 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: of those young running backs with, I think they are 185 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: in good shape and they should be in really good 186 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: shape in the running game this week against the forty 187 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: nine ers, because the forty nine ers have given up 188 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: a franchise record for rushing yards this season. Yes, they 189 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: are currently last in the NFL, allowing a hundred and 190 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: seventy one yards per game. So that's that's the kind 191 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: of team you should be able to get right against. 192 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: And that's you know, there's always stuff that can kind 193 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: of go into that to make it a little misleading. 194 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: There they've been, they've lost all the games, they've been 195 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: playing from behind, teams are going to run late in 196 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: games and all that. But still that's you need to 197 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: be able to the six. Don't need to go out 198 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: and win this game by forty points. That's it's hard 199 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: to do that in the NFL, in the matter of 200 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: the opponents. So people shouldn't panic if the games are 201 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: a little closer than maybe you want to be. But 202 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: there's certain things you're going to look for within the 203 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: game that if this team is going in the right 204 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: directions you want to see and running the ball to 205 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: me is kind of chief amongst him. There's that stretch 206 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: four game stretch very recently where this team was averaging 207 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty yards a game on the ground. 208 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: You've thought, Okay, Russell Wilson's healthy, Thomas Rowles back, they've 209 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: found it and then it kind of went the wrong 210 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: direction the last couple of weeks for a lot of 211 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: different reasons. So this is a good chance for them 212 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: to kind of get right, so to speak. And you 213 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: want to see the San Francisco trends continue. And I'm 214 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: going to ask you in just a second what we 215 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: need to see from Thomas Rowles if he is in 216 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: fact going to get the ball, which it looks like 217 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: he is because he's at practice, so what he needs 218 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: to work on in this game. But the other trends 219 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: that I'd like to see continue for San Francisco. They're 220 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: also last in the league in time of possession and 221 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: points allowed per game, so I'd like to continue seeing 222 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: that happen. That'll be an indicator to me that the 223 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: Seahawks are doing what they're supposed to be doing. But 224 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: for you, John, when you watched Thomas Rawls, because we 225 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: have seen him at times almost get a little too exciting. 226 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: He's not hitting the hole right, He's not seeing it 227 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: the way that maybe he should. Yeah, and that's I 228 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: think some of that comes with the time he's missed 229 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: this year. It's running backs, the kind of position, it's 230 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: guys getting rhythms, they get a feel for the game, 231 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: a feel for their blockers, and you know, it definitely 232 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: didn't look right when he first came back earlier in there, 233 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: and he admitted he was too anxious and he wasn't 234 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: being the patient runner he needs to be. It looked 235 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: really good when he came back, and it has at 236 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: times and at other times the whole run games looked 237 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: a little off. You know, Darryl Bevill talked about this essay. 238 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: They it feels different when they have Thomas Rawls and 239 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: he's right, It just it gives them kind of a 240 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: different element what the teams always wanted advis running in 241 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: that physical nature. So you know, getting him going and 242 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: having it look like Thomas Rawlson the running games should 243 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: look is going to be a big deal. For as 244 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: much as we want to see that ground game get going, 245 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: how much do we need to see from this wide 246 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: receiver corps minus Tyler Lockett because this is the reality 247 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks the rest of the year. Yeah, unfortunately, 248 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: you lost one of your biggest playmakers for the season, 249 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: So you know it's the good news is the guy 250 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: who's going to kind of see his role change the most. 251 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: Paul Richardson he's played a lot. It's you know, he 252 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: hasn't seen. He had his biggest role late in his 253 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: rookie year. He was playing really well. He had that 254 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: three game stretch to close the season. We had like 255 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty receiving yards in those last three games, 256 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: and then unfortunately he heard his knee and was out, 257 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: and that knee injury carried in in the next year, 258 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: and then he pulls a hamstring and ends up on IRS. 259 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: He basically lost last year to injury. By the time 260 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: he gets back, Tyler Lockett's really established himself. So now 261 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: Paul Richardson's fighting for reps. So this is a great 262 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: opportunity for him. I think it's a really good sign 263 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: that he came out wrong in the second half of 264 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: that game, had a few big catches in a touchdown 265 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: where now he can build off that. That gives him 266 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: confidence and now you're really confident in him. And then 267 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: Jermaine Curse. It hasn't been the best year for him. 268 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: He's talked about this being kind of a humbling year, 269 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: and he was losing some playing time to Tyler Lockett 270 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: before the injury, and now he's going to be right 271 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: back into that starting role. So this is a good 272 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: chance for him. I mean, if we know anything about 273 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: Jermaine Curse, it's that no matter kind of how things 274 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: are going, he can come up with a big moment. 275 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: And this is a great chance for him to kind 276 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: of turn things around. And what's been not in his 277 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: best season, and he is still getting those opportunities because 278 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: while his stats don't look the same from last year, 279 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: he is still getting targets from Russell, which shows that 280 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: there is still a level of trust and a desire 281 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: to get him the ball. Yeah. And the other thing 282 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: with him, and I talked with Doug Baldman about this 283 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday, is so much of what he 284 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: does that they like about him why he's in there 285 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: doesn't show up in stats. That's the blocking he does, 286 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: just the route running that sometimes he's running route that 287 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: is to help get somebody else open and is Doug 288 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: Baldwill explained this. He can do a lot of those 289 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: things because he has a really high football like you, 290 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: and they trust him to do some things that they 291 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: might not want other guys doing. So I don't want 292 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: this to be saying Jermaine Kurs is having a bad season. 293 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: It just maybe statistically hasn't been as productive as some 294 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: other years, right, And you have to know how to 295 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: evaluate those guys even when the numbers aren't there, because 296 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that he's not an asset and certain 297 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: parts of them contain for the team. And speaking of 298 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin, he needs eight more receptions to become the 299 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: first player in franchise history with one hundred and a 300 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: single season. That is hard to believe. And he needs 301 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: three more receptions to set the single season franchise mark 302 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: with ninety five, he will pass one of my favorites, 303 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: Bobby Ingram, who was also pretty darn good out of 304 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: the slot. Yeah, had some pretty sneaky moves that he 305 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: would use to get some separations. So I see a 306 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: lot of similarities there. He has already set career high 307 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: end receptions and yards, and Doug's coming off the best 308 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: game of his career, which was really good for Doug, 309 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: and it's made some people wonder if that took away 310 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: from some Jimmy Graham opportunities. Yeah, I mean Jimmy Graham's 311 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: had what is it four catches in the last three games, 312 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: I think, so it's you know, anytime that happens, people 313 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: are gonna wonder why didn't he getting the ball more? 314 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: And there's that stretch earlier in the year when he's 315 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: getting you know, six seven catches every game. So I 316 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: completely understand why fans want to. I mean, he's he's 317 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: been an All Pro, he's a great tight end. I 318 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: get it. But this is not an offense where they've 319 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: ever wanted to just force feed one guy. And it's 320 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's what Russell Wilson sees. Sometimes it's 321 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: a play call, but just for whatever reasons, you know, 322 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll mentioned they were rerouting him in the line 323 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: of scrimmage more than they thought they would. And sometimes 324 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: it's just Doug Baldon was open a lot and we 325 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: saw thirteen catches one hundred and seventy yards. I mean, 326 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: are we you know, do they want to not throw 327 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: to the open guy? So it's you know, I would 328 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: be surprised if Jimmy Graham doesn't have more catches next week, 329 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: just because I feel like it's kind of cyclical and 330 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: guys get their chances and he's a great player, but yeah, 331 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: it's it is a little weird to see him held 332 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: the one two catches in the game because he's a 333 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: phenomenal player. Yeah, let's flip the conversation over to the 334 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: other side of the ball, where the Seahawks defense has 335 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: allowed less than one hundred yards rushing in the last 336 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: four games. I didn't realize, but they'd only allowed one 337 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: third down conversion to Arizona, I believe last week. And 338 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: now you're facing a forty nine er team that is 339 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: without their leading rusher, Carlos Hide. He was placed on 340 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: injured reserve last week. But you do have the ability 341 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: of Colin Kaepernick, yeah, to just go wherever he wants to. 342 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: I love Mike Bettest description of him this week. He 343 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: runs funny and one doesn't run with good form, but heat, man, 344 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: he can move. I remember those, you know, the games 345 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: his first couple of years when he gets in the 346 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: open field, it's I mean, those long legs get going 347 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: and he can fly. So yeah, there, you know. He's 348 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: played really well the last couple of weeks. Obviously, he 349 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: was not the starting quarterback when these two teams played 350 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: earlier in the year, so that adds a different element. 351 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: And certainly with the Chip Kelly offense, you're going to 352 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: expect to see the quarterback run the ball. So they've 353 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: run the ball well this year. That's for all the 354 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: struggles they've had, one of the things they've done best 355 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: is run it. And they ran it late in that 356 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: game against the Seahawks, scored a couple of weight touchdowns 357 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: that had the defense a little upset about the way 358 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: they finished that game. But yeah, I mean, if you 359 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: look at areas that you might worry about with a 360 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: team that's struggling, that's probably the number one thing is 361 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: the way they can move the ball on the ground. Yeah, 362 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: and you know, Chip Kelly's offenses are usually kind of 363 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: those quick strikes through the year. You know, they're trying 364 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: to get those chunk yards in hitching down field. This 365 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: has been the best rushing team that Chip Kelly has 366 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: had in the NFL, but their offensive numbers aren't there 367 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: because their passing yards are so much less than any 368 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: other Chip Kelly coach team. So can we just expect 369 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: them to force feed it on the ground and take 370 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: the Seahawks secondary out of it? You know, I think 371 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: they'll still take a few shots. And if you go 372 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: back and look the last couple of weeks, Kaepernick's numbers 373 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: are up quite a bit as passing numbers, you know, 374 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: the efficiency numbers or ratings all that. So he seems 375 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: to be, you know, as he's kind of getting back 376 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: from all in that starting always had over half a 377 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: season there now after kind of a long layoff. You know, 378 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: I do think they're going to try to lean on 379 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: the run game, but I wouldn't expect them to be 380 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: totally one dimensional. I would love to see, um, you know, 381 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: just calling Kaepernick against that Seahawks defensive front that has 382 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: not just racked up the sacks, but Cliff Avril with 383 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: twenty five quarterback hits this year. It's unbelievable. Michael Bennett 384 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 1: has eighteen. And how about Frank Clark coming on as 385 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,479 Speaker 1: a protege to both of those guys, He's got eighteen 386 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: quarterback hits. You know, I want to see what they 387 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: can do against Kaepernick because he is such a different 388 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: type of quarterback and I just want to see him 389 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: get back there because it's it's kind of fun to 390 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: watch him get that much pressure. Yeah, and they've you 391 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: go back to last year when Kaepernick was still the 392 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: starter early in the season and they beat him up 393 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: pretty good. That this team has had pretty good success 394 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: against these mobile quarterbacks and Kaepernick in particular, you know, 395 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: going back a few years now, so you know, really 396 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: athletic front seven, which is what you need against the quarterback. 397 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: Click that. So that's a fun matchup and it's kind 398 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: of fun to think about that matchup if you think 399 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: forward into the playoffs. I don't know that that's not 400 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: what the team is doing, but as we wrap up 401 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: here in the last couple of minutes exactly, that's kind 402 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: of what we're here for. So the Seahawks do not 403 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: control their own destiny. They need Atlanta to lose to 404 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: get the number two seed and that buy So there 405 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: are about four teams right now that are possibility for 406 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: coming to Century Link Field. And out of those four, 407 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: we started talking about this a little bit earlier, John, 408 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: are there teams or which teams do the Seahawks matchup 409 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: best against? Both on that defensive side and I think offensively, 410 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: there's certainly some advantages, yes, and you know, we don't 411 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: want to be providing any balls on board material here, 412 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: but there are certain teams that will probably be more 413 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: favorable than others. And to me, as I touched on 414 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: when we got started here, I think ultimately, if you 415 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: can face a team that doesn't have that those dominant 416 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: defensive front players that right now seems to be what's 417 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: hurt the Seahawks and most when you look at the 418 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: teams that have given them the most struggle, whether it's 419 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: a Gerald McCoy and Tampa or Aaron Donald with the Rams, 420 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: that all anybody in the division right it's playing that 421 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: kind of just smash mouth hard. So you know, I 422 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: like this team's chances a lot. If there's a team 423 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: that they can give Russell Wilson time to throw and 424 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: they can get the running game going a little bit, 425 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: So you know who that team is. You know, I'd 426 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: have to I'd have to get We're a little ahead 427 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: of ourselves. I haven't done the breakdowns yet, but you 428 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: know there's what four they could play Green Bay Detroit 429 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: Giant Giants if they're in the wild card ground. So um, yeah, 430 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: who the best matchup is. Let's that's a conversation for 431 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: next weekend. And I tell you what, let's keep our 432 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: fingers crossed that they do get a little bit of 433 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: help and we're not actually talking about a matchup next week. 434 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: We're having to wait a couple of weeks about that. 435 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: All pulfor Drew Brees in the Saints to Hey, you 436 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 1: know what your business? Yes, we just saw that, you know, 437 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: in a division game, road team with a worse record 438 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: can go out and steal one. So yes, unfortunately we 439 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: know exactly how that play, so you know why not 440 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: that's true. A win this week would give the Seahawks 441 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: ten regular season wins. A win would also give Pete 442 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: Carroll one hundred and twelve combined career wins. That would 443 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: tie him with the great John Madden, which would be 444 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: a very cool thing to talk about. And of course 445 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: it will set them up for the postseason and whoever 446 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: they face. Whatever that schedule looks like, we will be 447 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: here to break it down for you next week as 448 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: that is this week's edition of Seahawks Insider. You can 449 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: catch all of our podcasts Seahawks dot Com, Slash Podcast 450 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: eight