1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Bold reverence and occasionally random. The Sunday hang with Playing 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Buck podcast starts now Buck. While you were down in Bermuda, 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: I was getting kicked out of Little league games and 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: going to go see Top Gun Maverick. I took all 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: three boys on Friday afternoon. Top Gun Maverick has now 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: become the biggest, most successful, most lucrative Memorial Day movie 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: launch ever. It is also the most successful Tom Cruise 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: movie launch ever. And Tom Cruise obviously has been making 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: movies for basically forty years now. And it's as good 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: as everybody says it is, Buck, I don't know what 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: percentage of our audience went to see it, or we'll 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: see it in the near future. I would bet almost 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: one hundred percent at least if you still go out 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: to movie theaters at all. It's so good. I all 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: three of my kids loved it. I took my seven, 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: my eleven, and my fourteen year old with me. We 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: watched it in the Imax theater here in our town, 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: and it was so fantastic. All all three boys gave 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: it well. Two of the boys gave it a ten. 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: My youngest gave it a nine because he said he 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: had trouble figuring out which pilot was, which was in 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: which airplane. He wasn't fast enough you can read the call, 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: uh you know, yeah on the helmets. Uh. He's just 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, relatively young reader as a first grader. So 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: he was like I sometimes got confused as to which 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: pilot was which one. Um, but the other three gave 27 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: it a ten. He gave it a nine. Everybody loved it. 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: It was people were clapping. It was completely not woke, 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: no political agenda other than hey, the United States is awesome, 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: which I think there's a desperate demand for. And it's 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: a good two hours to go take your family. If 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: you're looking for something fun to do, that's great. I 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: already have. Uh, Carrie and I are going on Friday. 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: We've already we're gonna go. We're gonna one of the 35 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: big theaters here in New York City to go check 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: it out. We're excited about it. I've heard from as 37 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, her father is a retired top gun naval 38 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: aviator instructor. So you told us that he watched an 39 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: early version of this and said it was great for 40 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: like two months ago. Well for a top gun instructor 41 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: to tell you that the flying they do is really 42 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: next level. Is that's really saying something he says they 43 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: did not see They did not see giat they were 44 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: actually up in those planes. I saw a stat I 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: think it was on Fox this morning that to fly 46 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: the F eighteens, Uh, they were spending it's eleven thousand 47 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: dollars and I think it's in an hour, which is 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: actually a little less than I thought it would be. 49 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: But they had to the Navy had to be reimbursed 50 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: for the cost. They really were flying those planes. It's 51 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: the it's actual flying that you're seeing. They go very 52 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: close to the hard top, very low, flying fifty feet 53 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: in some places from the ground. That's I mean, that's uh, 54 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: you make one, you know you you blink and you're 55 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: in the dirt from what I Again, I'm not a pilot, 56 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: but this is what this is what he said, So 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: that part of it I think is exciting, but it 58 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: also speaks to uh, I think Clay, the broader trend 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: that you've identified and we can all feel now. I mean, 60 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: Netflix has just gotten annihilated as a stock. By the way, 61 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: I have no longer a Disney Plus subscriber, no longer 62 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: who Lou subscriber about to cancel Netflix, by the way, 63 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: because the f one show is over. The only guy 64 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: I gonna watch Stranger Things season four. I couldn't even 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: get through the last season. I like the first I 66 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: love the first season, and I even liked the second season. 67 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: But the third season, I was just like, I don't 68 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: really see what's going on here. So I'm not not 69 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: a huge Stranger Things fan. I gotta keep I gotta 70 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: keep Amazon Prime because I got my Yellowstone. I gotta 71 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: get through Clay because he got me onto that one. 72 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: By the way, about one hundred and fifty pages into 73 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: Undaunted Courage, it's good. I'm now I'm double I'm sort of, 74 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, double timing it with that and the Keegan 75 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: history of the First World War. It is very good, 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: and I agree with your sentiment. This is what made 77 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: me think of it, that it would be an excellent 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: make this into a fantastic series. I think more than 79 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: a movie. Yeah, you need to do a series. It 80 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: has to be like a multi year series. I mean, 81 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: this should be an I mean, if Netflix was serious 82 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: about making great entertainment that people would love, it would 83 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: make them subscribe or Amazon Prime or any of these 84 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: companies that have so much money to do this stuff. 85 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: They'd make a Lewis and Clark series and make it 86 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: really good and really show us. I think it would 87 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: be the biggest hit of any streaming ever. Like, I 88 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: think that's how popular it could be. People want to 89 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: see stories that are inspiring, cool heroes, good guys, bad guys, 90 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: and yeah, and this country want to see stuff that, 91 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, at least makes us generally feel good about 92 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: America and being Americans and everything else. It is for 93 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: entertainment purposes, right, I just feel like everything has turned 94 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: into an opportunity for a political lecture in entertainment these days, 95 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: and it's it's tiresome. It's really really enough people view 96 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: it as tiresome that I hope the marketplace is going 97 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: to start to take it in a different direction now. 98 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: It truly just a marketplace decision. If everybody else is 99 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: making shows and movies and they just constantly are selling 100 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: the idea that America sucks, our history is indefensibly bad, 101 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: and you just pivot and say, you know what I 102 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: want to make and America is awesome movie or in 103 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: America is awesome television show. There's a desperate demand for 104 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: it right now. I just I feel it. I can. 105 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: I can pick up on it even Memorial Day. I'm 106 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: sure a lot of you felt it. I felt like 107 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: there's almost more flags out than I'm used to in 108 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: the past, like so many people want to be aggressively 109 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: pro America and patriotic and aren't being served by the marketplace. 110 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see it on Friday, give you my 111 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: give you my review, and uh, you know I I'm 112 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: this book recommendation thing clad that we're gonna put on 113 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: clanbuck dot com. It's gotta go both ways here, buddy. 114 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: So I got some in mind for you. The Shackleton 115 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: Voyage Endurance. Yeah, I would love to read that's. That's 116 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm in fact jotting that down. You talked about that before. 117 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: It is a crazy story about the voyage of Ernest 118 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: Shackleton down in Antarctica. I highly highly recommend anybody who 119 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: hasn't seen that. We'll put this off buying it today. 120 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: I just jotted that down Endurance. I'm gonna buy it today. 121 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: I'll start reading it when he gets here. Sundays with 122 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. Welcome back everybody to Clay and Buck. 123 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: We love the movie Top Gun Maverick, as you will know, 124 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: and we said, you know, we should get somebody who 125 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: actually know something. There was a whole heck of a 126 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: lot about flying. Joining us now is Joe Flatley. He 127 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: was a real life Top Gun fighter pilot instructor. He's 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: a third generation naval aviator, retired Navy FA eighteen Strike 129 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: and fighter pilot and F five adversary pilot. Joe, thanks 130 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: for calling into Clay and Buck. We appreciate it. Oh yeah, 131 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here. Thanks. So what was your 132 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: you actually were the guy or among the guys I 133 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: should say, training folks in Top Gun. What was some 134 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: of the best stuff that you saw in the movie? 135 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean in terms of the flying, the way they 136 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: depicted the program. We just want to know what did 137 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: you think? Yeah, well, it was a good movie. It 138 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: was a great, great sequel to the first one, which 139 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: came out when when I was just going through advanced 140 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: jet training, so just about to finish up pilot training 141 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: and getting ready to go off to fly F eighteen. 142 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was the first movie. It was great, 143 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: and this was a great sequel, and and the flying 144 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: scenes and this I thought were much better. Um. Yes, 145 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: it was kind of hard to tell actually how much 146 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: CGI was going on there. Obviously some of the flying scenes, 147 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: well not obviously probably to the labor person, but you know, 148 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: the airplanes, the proximity they had in the movie, the 149 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: airplanes to each other they were fighting, probably not that realistic, 150 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: but for cinemagraphic reasons, that's that's the way you have 151 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: to present it. But still very very well done, I thought. 152 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: Had it gotten hard to tell what the CGI was 153 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: in there except maybe in a couple of instances. So 154 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: if there was something, I'm sure there was. So Joe. 155 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: When nineteen eighty six, when the original Top Gun came 156 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: on on, I believe the overall naval recruiting for it 157 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: went up like five hundred percent. For people who have 158 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: forgotten what an unbelievable hit that movie was back in 159 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six. As a guy who was training as 160 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: a Top Gun pilot back in nineteen eighty six, what 161 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: was it like for that movie to come out? And 162 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: did everybody think you were lying when you were out 163 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: at the bars and you would say, hey, you know, 164 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: I'm actually a Top Gun fighter pilot, Because I imagined 165 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: that became a pretty popular line for guys to be 166 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: dropping all over the place. Yeah, I think, you know, 167 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: we gave a sell sund be full of ourselves about 168 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: and Hafin we weren't already, but but yeah, it was 169 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: the timing was good for a guy like me. And 170 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: then then and like you said, recruiting boom and that 171 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: lasted a while. And it's funny. After that, I got 172 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: to go to the premiere out in San Diego and 173 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: it was it was a Navy some civilians. We're out there, 174 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: but basically they ran the premiere for the Navy people 175 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: that put it on. And one of the discussions afterwards 176 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: was was that this was probably gonna be another boost 177 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: for naval aviation, with the comment being that that you know, 178 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: this war that we're we're now pretty much out of 179 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: the beginning or all through, actually fairly good recruiting for 180 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: special ops whether or you know, whichever service it was 181 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: um and that I don't know that naval aviation has suffered, 182 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: but I think they're right for another recruiting boom. Now 183 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: with this movie, we're speaking of Joe Flatley. He was 184 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: a top gun fighter pilot instructor. He retired after fourteen 185 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: years active duty plus six years reserved duty as a 186 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: naval aviator. Tell everybody about about your your dad, Jim Flatley. 187 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: He was a Navy test pilot, Vietnam era fighter pilot 188 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: with three hundred and fifty combat missions. Yeah, well we 189 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: a third generation, so you know, like you just said, 190 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: my dad before me. Uh, fighter pilot, blue fans mostly Vietnam, 191 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: but prior to Vietnam, he was a test pilot there 192 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: Protection River where the Navy did all test work. And 193 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: his distinction, um, there's is Yeah, famous moment was taking 194 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: the C one thirty, which is a big four engined 195 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: cargo airplane. You can see it on YouTube if you 196 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: just google C one thirty carrier landing. But that was 197 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: his project, just a young guy right out of test 198 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: pilot school and they and they sent him out to 199 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: the ship and the C one thirty never been done before. 200 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: Everybody thought he was crazy for doing it, got it 201 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 1: done and uh and uh. And the three hundred and 202 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: fifty combat missions, being the skipper of a squadron that 203 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: didn't lose a single airplane during Vietnam. His tour as 204 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: a skipper anyway, um uh, he's not known for that. 205 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: He's known for the C one thirty things so it's uh, 206 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: it's we get a laugh out of that. Your grandfather. 207 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: There also was a World War two flying ace in 208 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: the South Pacific going up against the Japanese zero fighters. 209 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: How many, first of all, how many third generation fighter 210 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: pilots are there? I mean, because the math on it 211 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: doesn't work out where there could be very many in 212 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: the first place. And one of the things that I 213 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: found so fascinating was there's a scene I don't want 214 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: to spoil it for anybody, but in Top Gun Maverick 215 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: where the jet evolution is discussed in terms of the 216 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: technology and how much different it was between I think 217 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: the F fourteen and the F eighteen. For people who 218 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: are up in these planes, I'm curious how many of 219 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: these different aircraft you have flown in? Have you flown 220 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: in what your grandfather would have flown in, and what 221 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: your father would have flown in, and kind of discuss, 222 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: if you would, how much evolution there's been in the 223 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: fighter jets. Oh, the evolution has been tremendous. I mean, 224 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: if you just start working backwards from the F thirty five, 225 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: which is which is an unbelievable technology. I haven't been 226 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: in it. I haven't been in a simulator, and I 227 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: can't even begin to discuss what exactly it is, and 228 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: most of that's probably classified anyway, but I will go 229 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: tell you that back in nineteen eighty seven, just as 230 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: I finished up my F eighteen train getting ready to 231 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: go off to my fleet squad, and went to the 232 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: McDonald douglas plant there in Saint Louis and got some 233 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: some specialized training high speed at a radiation missile harm 234 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: that we would use to target great our sights. And 235 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: McDonald douglas put that on for us, and part of 236 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: that they took us on a tour of their facility there, 237 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: and this is talking to Technology eighty seven. They sat 238 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: us in the mock up of a cockpit. It was 239 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: just one big piece of glass and they said, yeah, 240 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: this is the future cockpit. It's all gonna be touchscreen, 241 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: and we're going touchscreen. What's that? And that I believe 242 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: it is pretty much the F thirty five cockpit now. 243 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: So it has evolved quite a bit. But going back 244 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: to my granddad's day in the F four Wildcat and 245 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: the F six Hellcat and as other people flew the 246 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: cours airs, very capable fighters for the time, but but 247 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing compared to what we have now. I mean 248 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: they were shooting. They were shooting bullets basically where we're 249 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: shooting missiles now that are that are targeting beyond visual range, 250 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: so completely different technology. Joe, what do you tell us 251 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: about the selection process into top Gun? I mean, since 252 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: you were a top Gun instructor, obviously you had a 253 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: number of people coming through in those classes. How does 254 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: want I mean for some of them, We've probably have 255 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: some people listening right now. By the way, we have 256 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: a huge military audience, both active and former military, current 257 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: former military, so we might have somebody who's you know, 258 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen listening goes, you know, I want to go 259 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: into a top gun program. How does that work? Well? 260 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: Just to clarify, was a top gun trained adversary pilot. 261 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: Then they run course and I don't know what the 262 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: latest is on timing wise, but back in my day 263 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: it was a ten week course and then I went 264 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: through the first five weeks as an adversary pilot. Then 265 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: I was qualified to go out and teach as an 266 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: adversary on the adversary So adversary being we're the bad guys. 267 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: We drew out and simulate enemy forces, whether Russian or 268 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: or whatever tactics, and and we were right now like 269 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: Merlin in the original movie, right, isn't that there? There 270 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: you go? Perfect? Yeah, that was exactly. It's flying the 271 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: F five, which which was which the bad guys were 272 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: flying in the first movie, so which is still being 273 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: flown as an adversary today. But so that's what I did. 274 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, to get there, you know, obviously it's the 275 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: cream of the crop, the top gun instructors themselves or 276 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: next level. You know, probably a terrible comparison, but it 277 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: would be like you know, a doctor specialist versus a 278 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: positions assistant the family practice, you know, terrible comparison, but 279 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: the top gun instructor versus an instructor like myself. But 280 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: to get there, you know, selection you've got to do well. 281 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: You've got to be um basically recommended for that job, 282 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: and then you got to get through it. And that's 283 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: a the arduous, arduous program those guys go through just 284 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: to teach the classes that they teach from the top 285 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: Gun program. Joe Flatley, everybody, mister Flatley, thank you very much, 286 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: sir for calling into Clay and Buck. We appreciate it. Hey, 287 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: thanks for having me, Y beer. Thanks so much. Third 288 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: Generation Fighter Pilot. That's pretty badass, Buck, That's as badass 289 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: as it gets. Yeah, I mean that's crazy to think about, right, 290 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: Your grandfather fought against the Japanese and the Pacific and 291 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: then all the way up through the movies today and 292 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: everything else. I mean, that's your grandfather was in the Navy, 293 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: but he was on the USS Batan, so he was 294 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: at Late Gulf. Didn't talk about it very much until 295 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: later on. Then he would talk about it occasionally. Sunday 296 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: Sizzle with clay in Buck. We got a call from 297 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: Greg in Monterey, California. We could take that one. He 298 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: wants to talk about the Jack Ryan series on Amazon Prime, 299 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: and I'm definitely about to upset some people. Greg, thanks 300 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: for calling in. Hey, Hey guys, Hey, I wanted to 301 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: just compliment you guys. You guys are really We all 302 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: loved Rushbow, but you guys just have carved out a 303 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: whole feel of your own and it's it's just fantastic. 304 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: So that's one thing I wanted to let you know. 305 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, I've heard you talk about different Netflix Amazon 306 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: Prime series and maybe I missed it, but have you 307 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: talked about Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan because you are Jack 308 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Buck. I mean, the guy does have great hair, 309 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: he rose crew, and he was an analyst for the CIA. 310 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: So there are some similarities, and Greg, I appreciate you 311 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: pointing them out. The Jack Ryan series, I just thought 312 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: was I saw the first season and I was like, 313 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: this is just kind of ridiculous. I mean, I wish 314 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: it was that cool that you go from writing the 315 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: reports at Langley to all of a sudden you're like 316 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: interrogating a terrorist and you got the MP five and 317 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: you're laying down the hate against the enemy and the 318 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: whole thing. And then the second seed in I got 319 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: like two episodes in and I and this is my problem. 320 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: People ask me, like, what CIA shows do you like 321 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: I've become that guy who I'm like, this is I 322 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: can't They're too unrealistic. I can't do it. I look 323 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: at this. I'm like, this is he's got like classified 324 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: documents out on the table at his hotel, and he's 325 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: got some you know, hot lady who's like coming up 326 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: to hang out with him. I'm like, who plays Jack 327 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: Ryan in this show? John Krasinski, who I will say 328 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: is is very good and he's phenomenal in Thirteen Hours, 329 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: which is a movie that that does touch on this 330 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: stuff at the same genre, and I do like a lot. 331 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: I thought Thirteen Hours was great, So despite what people say, 332 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't hate everything about movies. But but Greg, I 333 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: gotta say it was not. I liked the Terminal List 334 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: more than I liked the Jack Ryan series. Do you 335 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: watch because you've got Yeah, you've got your background? But 336 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: season one was much better. Season two was a complete falloff. 337 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: They turned him into Rambo you know instead? Yeah that 338 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: I got. I watched all of season one of the 339 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: Jack Ryans and thank you for calling in, Greg. I 340 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: like John Krasinski. He's The Office is maybe the funniest 341 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: show that's ever been made. I mean, it gets better 342 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: and better. It's ages like fine wine. It's up there 343 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: with Seinfeld in my opinion. Oh. I think the only 344 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: reason for a while I was even subscribing to Netflix 345 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: was because it had The Office, And then when it 346 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: lost it, I guess it went to Paramount Plus or 347 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: one of them. I think that's right. It's back. It's 348 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: back in the Comcast family. But A Quiet Place one 349 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: and A Quiet Place two, which Krazinski wrote and directed, 350 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: are both really well done. As well. The two actors 351 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: who have made who are our contemporaries. Yeah, basically are 352 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: the two actors who have made the I think that 353 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: the sort of coolest transformation in their careers are the 354 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: two actors that I was just effectively referencing there. Chris 355 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: Pratt from another show which I love, Parks and rec 356 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: when he went, you know, and he transformed himself into 357 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: basically like a Navy seal, badass guy actor obviously, and 358 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: and John Krasinski when he decided that he was going 359 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: to be in thirteen hours, you know, we put on 360 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: like fifteen or twenty pounds, a muscle, grew a beard, 361 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden was, you know, ready to 362 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: throw down for America. So those guys did a great job. 363 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: That's what I'm in the gym and I'm like, I 364 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: can't do any more deadlifts. I'm like, look at John 365 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: krasinskiin Chris. But I bet those guys, to be fair, 366 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: also went strong. Hh. There's no way those guys. If 367 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: we have some fitness experts out there in this audience, 368 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: which I know we do, we just haven't had them 369 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: call it in a while. I am. I'm amazed at 370 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: the more I learn about this, and the closer I 371 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: am to it, the amount of additional testosterone beyond it's 372 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: not for hypogonadism, which is when you actually have a 373 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: testosterone deficiency or have your own show as a guy 374 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: on CNN. Um, But but it's which just that's the 375 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: that's the way they can diagnose these things. But the uh, 376 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: the amount of HGH and testosterone that people just are 377 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: the guys are consuming now, um, in order to get 378 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: a certain look and have a certain have a certain 379 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: strength profile is pretty shocking. The more I find out 380 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: about this from people who know and even I've learned 381 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: these things now, like because on TikTok they're always talking 382 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: about it on Instagram, these different steroids. A lot of 383 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: people take steroids, which I have found out. Is I 384 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: mean by anybody who's I mean, if you look at say, 385 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: M Jeff Bezos of Amazon, yes that's not just from 386 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing. But it's not just 387 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: from eating lots of chicken breast and a few extra 388 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: pull ups. I'm just saying I don't know what he's doing. 389 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: I told you, I said when we talked about swole Bezos. 390 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen the pictures of Jeff Bezos. He 391 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: got divorced and he got super ripped. I've said this before. 392 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm forty three. Right now, when I'm like fifty, I'm 393 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: gonna get super ripped. And I'm gonna take whatever I 394 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: need to do to get super ripped. And anybody who asked, 395 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, yeah, I just you know, started 396 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: eating a little healthier and doing that makes it fun. 397 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: Just decided to go with chicken breast and brown rice. 398 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: That's what they always say. That's what they always say. 399 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: Right Like, you're like Jeff Bezos, you're fifty five. You've 400 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: never been in good shape your whole life, and suddenly 401 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: your body fat percentage is three like at fifty five. 402 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: The math doesn't add up, and they all they're always like, well, 403 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, I just started living healthier, Yeah, and injecting 404 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: yourself with a lot of hgh. Yeah, just started doing 405 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: that CrossFit, you know, those kettle bell swings. All of 406 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: a sudden really kicked in. Added I've done all that 407 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: stuff all right, not an awful physical condition, but I've 408 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: alwayed pretty much the same thing. And I am not ripped. 409 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: So I'm sure we have some some bodybuilder competitors and 410 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: stuff and listening right now, if you have any any 411 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: thoughts for Clay and I on on our thesis here 412 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: that a lot of these actors you see are taking stuff. 413 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of them are taking things a lot. 414 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: There's no way, Like, did you watch Brad Pitt in 415 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: Once upon a Time in Hollywood. He's got that scene 416 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: where he's on top of the roof and he's like, uh, 417 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: like it takes his shirt off. He's almost sixty, Brad Pitt, 418 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: like fifty five or whatever the heck he is, and 419 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: he looks like he's twenty four. There's no way that's real. Yeah, 420 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: So anyway, maybe that's the case, or maybe Clay and 421 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: I just need to get our asses up earlier and 422 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: do more deadlifts. You eat more chicken breast. Yeah, we'll 423 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: see Sunday hang with Clay and Buck. Something's Clay. Maybe 424 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: I shouldn't necessarily admit on the on the radio show 425 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: with a few million people listening to this. But one 426 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: one weird idea that I've had, I've actually I've actually 427 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: told carry my fiance about this, is that I just 428 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: always thought that there are certain animals that'd be really 429 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: cool to have as a pet. And certain states Florida, 430 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: for example, if you get if you get a license, 431 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: you can have a pet fox if you want. So, like, 432 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: what animal would you think that you would like to 433 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: have it? I think, and this is weird, and I 434 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: know this, but we're going we're going deep into nerddom here, folks. 435 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: I think having a pet red fox would be really cool. 436 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: They're all these Instagram accounts that exist with people with 437 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: their pet foxes. Can you train them to walk like 438 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: dogs and stuff? Or no? I mean they're technically still 439 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: wild animals that are not really domesticated, but they make 440 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: cute noises and they're furry and you can rub them 441 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: and you know they're they're You can have a pet 442 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: fox if you want to have a pet fox. In 443 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: some states, in New York, you can't even have a 444 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: pet hedgehog. I've looked into this, and hedgehogs are tiny 445 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: and and really inoffensive. But you know, I basically what 446 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying is, I think some exotic pets would be 447 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: kind of cool. A wombat is technically endangered, so that's 448 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: never gonna happen. But if you've ever seen like a 449 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: wombat sanctuary it looks like people are having a lot 450 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: of fun with the wombats there. And if you don't 451 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: know what they look like, I don't know. They kind 452 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: of look like a fat koala. I mean that's the best. 453 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: So you, you, by the way, are a good test 454 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: on this because you're now engaged. But have you ever 455 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: dated a girl with a pet snake? It's a rule no, no, 456 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: you want to do it. I do not date the 457 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: females with the pet snake. Pet tarantula even scarier. But 458 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: I've known a couple of women with pet snakes, and look, 459 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: everyone needs to be judged an individual, but I do 460 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: think it's a little bit of a little bit of 461 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: a warning sign. That's all about huge red flag. I'll 462 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: give you an example of something I saw. I was 463 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: down in in Florida, where I spent some decent time. 464 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: I was in the gym near my place, and this 465 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: really good looking girl, probably in her twenties, is in 466 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: there working out. She has a huge skeleton like head 467 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: tattoo on her back. Like you see her from the front. 468 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: You're like, hey, this twenty four year old girl, she's 469 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: really good looking. She turned her I've never seen a 470 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: more terrifying tattoo on her upper like shoulder is a 471 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: huge skull like just a skull tattoo, And I actually 472 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: am kind of curious why she got it, But that, 473 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: to me is kind of the equivalent of girl who 474 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: has a snake like skull tattoo on the back. I'm 475 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on there, but I'm staying away. 476 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: There is trepidation, there is fear. Even if I were 477 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: a single guy, good looking girl skull tattoo, I'm out 478 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: same thing with a snake, So I'm not dating about 479 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: with the snakes. There are snakes and then there are snakes. 480 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: If you want to have a little pet, you know, 481 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: garter snake or something that you feed crickets to. I 482 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: don't get it, you know, because I just think that 483 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: the mammo reptile barrier. The reptiles are not They're not 484 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: our buddies, right, They're not. They're not bonding with you. 485 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: You're either a source of food or are the food. 486 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: Like there's there's not really anything else you're doing, but 487 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: when you have a snake, that is. And you see 488 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: these sometimes they have these shows on Animal Planet and stuff. 489 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: There'll be some guy and they're like, oh man, we 490 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: just got the call. One of these guys who has 491 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: like a spitting cobra. He was doing his laundry and 492 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: he knocked over the spitting cobra cage. Snake gets out 493 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: of his cage. This is my theory. And there the 494 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: guy get out and he's like he's like, yeah, I'm 495 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: rules scared now because it's like not just very venomous, 496 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: but it spits the venom in your face from a 497 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: twenty feet But I thought this was cool, so I 498 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: got it as a petty. You're looking at this guy 499 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: like you're out of your mind. Clay in Pennsylvania. This 500 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: is why we're talking about this. They had to call 501 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: cops because the owner of a fifteen foot long python, 502 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: a fifteen foot long python. How big is the cage 503 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: for a fifteen or tank or whatever for a fifteen 504 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: foot python? Not big enough? Yeah, I mean it got 505 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: it got out. What a shock. It wrapped itself around 506 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: the owner and then was as snakes do, because he 507 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: is food to a fifteen foot started to constrict and 508 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: block his airway and basically slowly asphyxiate him. He calls 509 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: nine one one while being choked out by being choked 510 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: out by the python. The cops get there because fortunately 511 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: it was, you know, a slow enough process and they 512 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: were able to get there. The cop gets there has 513 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: to draw his side arm and blow the python's head 514 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: off while it is still wrapped around the owner. The 515 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: owner is apparently okay, but if right, this is crazy. 516 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, just if you have a fifteen foot snake, 517 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it is fourteen feet too long. 518 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: I want to hear from this cop. So how did 519 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: he even did he have to hold the snake's head? 520 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: This is amazing. The lieutenant that they this is on 521 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: a Fox twenty nine. I've been doing this job for 522 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: nineteen years. It's the first time i've seen anything like this. Yeah, 523 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: you think, but I mean, I'm saying, like, I'm sure. 524 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: The cop was like, well, I can't fire the gun 525 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: at the at the snake because it'll go through the 526 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: snake and kill the guy. So I'm genuinely so. They 527 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: know the snake, the middle of it was wrapped around 528 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: the guy and the head. They talk about this and 529 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: the and the local newspiece on it. The head was 530 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: separated enough from him while it we remember you come 531 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: in here. The snake is killing this guy. Yeah, I 532 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, And they and the guy had to 533 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: line it up and blow the snake's head off while 534 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: it was still wrapped around and constricting him. I mean 535 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: that's a tough What I'm saying is that's a tough shot. Right. Well, no, 536 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: but he got up close to it, and this, you know, 537 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: because it's you can only you know, I've seen anaconda. 538 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: They can usually take down one at a time, right, So, 539 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: once it's got the guy, it's immobilized, and so they're 540 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: able to line it up. But it's still scary as 541 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: all hell. Man, I mean, this is crazy. How long 542 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: after you I don't know the answer to this, but like, 543 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: how long after you blow the snake's head off was 544 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: he able to get the guy out? Oh? And I 545 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: think they got it off relatively quickly. I don't know, though, 546 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: how would you ever sleep again? By the way, they 547 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: found that this was the man's pet, and there were 548 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: several several other snake enclosures in the home. This dude 549 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: is crazy, I mean and totally crazy. You know a 550 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: couple of things, folks. For the for the single male 551 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: listeners of Clay and Buck, if the young Ladies sits 552 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: down and says, I I hate my dad slash, I 553 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: have a fifteen football constrictor. Either of these things are 554 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: not a good side. Do you agree with me on 555 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: the skull tattooed too? Would that be a big like 556 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: this would be tough to get over the dating and 557 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: tattoo conversation as a whole. We gotta do a whole segment. 558 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: There are lots of tattoos. I'm not terrified. There's different. 559 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: That's the thing. Not all tattoos are the same. I'm 560 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: running