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Speaker 2: Sure, it's nice level low.

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Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to the not even nice show. I'm your host, Shooter,

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Speaker 1: and it's Wednesday, which means that dear friend Donny Meacham joins,

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Speaker 1: it's hey, Donnie, are you there all? Lower? Lower lower

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Speaker 1: low Wednesday? It's a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: You know what's crazy? You think about it as you

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Speaker 2: get over, you start because you know, I do this

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Speaker 2: old Dodge Bob Vegas trip every year every year. You're

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Speaker 2: just got back last night?

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Speaker 1: How was it? Did you win? They take a place? Fantastic?

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Speaker 2: Fourteen because it was like there's only fourteen because it's

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Speaker 2: like quick at seventy four, that's really impressive.

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Speaker 1: Are you good with the dodgeball? Do you hit twelve?

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Speaker 1: And are you the weakest on the team?

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Speaker 2: I'm what second week?

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Speaker 1: Would how many on the team? How many's the twe

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Speaker 1: how many nine? Nine?

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Speaker 2: So once again, that's.

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Speaker 1: Or congratulations. I'm older in yes, trips like Vegas exhausting.

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Speaker 1: They hurt a little more, Oh they do. I can't

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Speaker 1: do it anymore. You can't do it. I went out

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Speaker 1: on Friday, so now I try to. I can't do it.

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Speaker 1: So I used to go out almost every night to

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Speaker 1: get gossip and meet sources and just play the game.

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Speaker 1: And it is exhausting, but we're good at it. But

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Speaker 1: the older you get, I don't want to do that

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Speaker 1: quite as much. But I've still got to fill my self,

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Speaker 1: stack the column that the podcast. So now what I

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Speaker 1: do is I try to do three or four different

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Speaker 1: groups in one night. So I started around four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: I met Jenny from the Today Show. Remember I met Jenny.

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Speaker 1: We had a really fun time shut up town to

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Speaker 1: meet my friend Paula, shut across time and then on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Not as easy, not as easy as it's right, Well

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Speaker 1: you look marvelous.

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Speaker 2: Well okay.

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Speaker 1: Said, let's jump into the show. What time is it,

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Speaker 1: my friends, it is. It's going to be a lot

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Speaker 1: of Brooklyn Beckham, David Beckham to day Victoria Beckham, because

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Speaker 1: this story is exploding. But only we have an exclusive here.

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Speaker 1: Prince Harry seems to have stepped in to mentor Brooklyn

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Speaker 1: on breaking up with his family. Well he knows something

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Speaker 1: about that, So Harry has quietly taken on a mentoring role,

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Speaker 1: sources tell me for Brooklyn Beckham, guiding him through the

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Speaker 1: flawout from his explosive breakup with his famous parents. Insiders

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Speaker 1: say that Harry sees a lot of parallels between Brooklyn's situation.

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Speaker 2: And his own.

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Speaker 1: There are parallels there. All families are difficult. However, let's

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Speaker 1: not be false about this, Harry. Your family was a

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Speaker 1: royal family. Your family tops every from the Beckham's are very,

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Speaker 1: very wealthy. They're not royals. Although it doesn't make me laugh.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what they call the Beckham's house a

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Speaker 1: state in Brooklyn in Britain? Beckingham Palace. It's very That's

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Speaker 1: what the local that's what they call it in Britain

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Speaker 1: they say Beckingham Palace. So there are some similarities there. Now,

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Speaker 1: Harry has told him, don't burn everything down at once,

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Speaker 1: and you only get one chance to sell your story,

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Speaker 1: so do it the right way. Harry's also introduced him,

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Speaker 1: says they are very very high up publishing, sools of

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Speaker 1: mine to his publisher, Harry made all the money with

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Speaker 1: the tell All book, Spare, I would not be at

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Speaker 1: all surprised if that's where Brooklyn now really really finishes

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Speaker 1: the story. He put out a statement, a long, long,

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Speaker 1: it away for free. Brooklyn. If you're listening to Harry here,

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Speaker 1: you can make a lot of money. Harry made I

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Speaker 1: think twenty million on that book. It was a best seller.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Brooklyn is quite the level of fame

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Speaker 1: as the royal family, and particularly in America, Victoria and

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Speaker 1: We know them, and so this story is big here.

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Speaker 1: It's huge in Britain at the moment. It's on the

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Speaker 1: here is Brooklyn and dare I say us too, because

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to get a tell all book.

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Speaker 2: All right, here's the real thing. What if it was

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Speaker 2: self made money there, Harry. Let's not forget that as well,

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Speaker 2: because you know what was David one of the if

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Speaker 2: not maybe of all time football whatever you call it.

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Speaker 2: They're the best soccer player in the world. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: If you can't take that away, you can't. She was

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Speaker 1: a spy skull. She's a spice girl. Yes.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing, all right, because some of the

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Speaker 2: stuff he says that the family did. They controlled my life,

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Speaker 2: The family controlled my marriage. They told me what to do.

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Speaker 2: You know what, That's called parenting. That this is what

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Speaker 2: I have with Sometimes these really rich kids, they feel

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Speaker 2: they take parenting differently. They're like, my mom had the

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Speaker 2: Is she kidding?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Right? That's what And sometimes they take it a little

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Speaker 2: and so I'm interested, but I'm also not gonna lie

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Speaker 2: like these late night Facebook ramblings, these late night social

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Speaker 2: it sometimes might sparkle little.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think rage or drinks or alcohol, or you

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Speaker 1: think something's going on, don't you drink when somebody I

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Speaker 1: think that's true too. When I wake up in the

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Speaker 1: morning and I say I have twelve texts from somebody

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Speaker 1: at four am, you have a moment before I'm reading help,

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Speaker 1: He can't forget this because we're all talking about it,

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Speaker 1: which brings us to our whole question. The other day,

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Speaker 1: Prince Harry has stepped into mental Brooklyn Beckham on his

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Speaker 1: family feud. He knows a lot about family feuds, does

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Speaker 1: does a Harry? And he's not an expert on a

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Speaker 1: lot of things, but this is one he is and

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Speaker 1: he's made a ton of money, millions of dollars breaking

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Speaker 1: up with his family. Should Harry mind his own business?

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Speaker 1: What do you think here but out Harry?

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Speaker 2: Or no?

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Speaker 1: You've got a lot of expertise that could be useful. Hey,

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Speaker 1: go vote on a pated Naughty Nights rob. A Facebook

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Speaker 1: page is Naughty Gossip which has being refreshed Donny Meacham.

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Speaker 2: There's two different ones. There is the there's the Naughty

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Speaker 2: Gossip of like the show but nice group. But there's

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Speaker 2: also ninety Gossip. So you know there's that site.

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Speaker 1: You check it out, but now.

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Speaker 2: You know, you'll see it's called Shooter. This page is

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Speaker 2: still called ninety gus. Look it up on Facebook, yes,

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Speaker 2: friended like everything even if it is like it please

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Speaker 2: but you'll see you might see a little monica that

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Speaker 2: says Shooter scoop. And it's because that goes with the

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Speaker 2: sub stack things about branding now, because you want people

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Speaker 2: to stick it in their head, check it out.

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Speaker 1: Like it, check it out, love it. Harry is there,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and don't get to vote. Don't get to vote,

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Speaker 1: and we will tell you there's results tomorrow. Okay, moving along,

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Speaker 1: we have another David and Victoria Beckham item. What's the

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Speaker 1: not We have the reaction. We're the only news outlet

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Speaker 1: at the moment who has insiders in that camp, and

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Speaker 1: we have their reaction. What are they saying?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the reaction is is like any parent would be.

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Speaker 2: They're stunned. They're just they're shocked. I think, look, obviously

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Speaker 2: There's like it's like that's the part they're not stunned about.

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Speaker 2: at us. Really that's interesting. No, that they know that

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Speaker 2: if I mean, I think any mom would, because the

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Speaker 2: grow up, your parents were there and they're raised. Granted,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, even if you blame Victorian and David here,

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Speaker 1: also know the breaking point, So what actually happened? There

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Speaker 1: was a breaking point. These two different families have been

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Speaker 1: really sort of simmering. The feud has been simmering for

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Speaker 1: a long time. So what caused this massive, massive breakdown?

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Speaker 1: We know it was a breakdown in trust. So the

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Speaker 1: final straw came just days before the twenty six year

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Speaker 1: According to insiders, Brooklyn and his wife Nicole spent months

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Speaker 1: trying to fix this behind closed doors. There were some meetings,

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Speaker 1: there were some talks. Lawyers were even involved, But ultimately

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Speaker 1: And the reason they felt that way that they could

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Speaker 1: This is very similar to what Harry and Meghan thought

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Speaker 1: stuff was in the press, and they were like, the

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Speaker 1: Why is this in the press, particularly the British press.

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Speaker 1: So once you lose trust, it's over. You can't fix anything.

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Speaker 2: The thing though, was like, so get this Victoria and David.

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Speaker 2: They have feelings and they have friends, and the only

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Speaker 1: Of this if you talk about them agree in it.

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Speaker 2: What if it was the friends that leaked it? Is

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Speaker 2: that their faulty? Can he be mad at them? I

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Speaker 2: get it, he's so frustrated, But it's like if, yes,

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Speaker 2: there's two things happening here, I'm telling your business to

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Speaker 2: somebody else, But it's my feelings. I'm allowed to express.

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Speaker 1: My But it's all the time. It's not who you tell,

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Speaker 1: it's who they tell you. Yeah. Yeah, So it's not

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Speaker 1: like if you tell me something, Donnie, it's not that

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Speaker 1: like i'd call my stay and say you won't believe

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Speaker 1: what Donnie. Yes, they have no set And indeed, it's

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Speaker 1: So the first couple of inner circles and not where

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Speaker 1: the sources normally are. It's the fourth, the fourth ripple,

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