WEBVTT - Inventing Leah & Teddi 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:13.560 Crime. Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode of 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.040 Real Time Crime. I'm one of your host Leo Lamar, 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.800 and I have with me, I'm wonderful co host Teddy Mellencamp. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:23.119 The pause is very essential. And then we also have 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:29.040 with us of course, sometimes Dmitri. Hello, Sometimes hello Dmitri. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:35.600 Something looks different about you today. Oh no, like like 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.920 did you do a fresh ship? Like something is new? 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:40.839 I don't know. There was a shadow on top of 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:45.040 his head and I thought he was wearing Oh wait, yeah, 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.120 oh yeah, I trying. I'm trying on like a little 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.360 tough to hair. What do you guys think? Imagine we 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:54.240 come on the zoom and Dmitri just has hair. What 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:55.960 are you guys talking about? It was just the lighting. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.760 It was the lighting all those times he just pretends 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:05.040 like everything's normal. Love that well, speaking of normal, today 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:08.119 we're not talking about anything normal. We'll be talking about 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.800 Bill Cosby's sexual assault conviction. We'll be talking about a 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.839 woman who faked her own abduction. We'll be talking about 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.880 Carson Cressley dating an AX murderer who hasn't calm down, 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.680 you know, and then finally rounding it out with Anna 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:27.360 Delve the story that everyone is talking about. You guys, 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.320 I've really changed since Chris Cuomo came into my life. 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:35.360 What's going on now? Not so? I never I just 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.800 I never responded again because I just felt very uncomfortable. 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.200 I just feel like I'm talking to a hacker, and 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.800 I'm like, am I developing a relationship with a hacker? 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.600 And that stopped you? That sounds like a reason you 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:56.280 would keep going it. That's so funny. Also, I'm just 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.640 very curious to know. It's like, well, what what other 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.400 crimes have you committed? Sir? You know, because if it's 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:06.160 just like nerdy tech hacking, that's not so hot. But 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.600 if it is all in battery, let's talk. Let's be honest. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.040 You're playing hard to get with the hacker. Would you 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:20.519 consider doing love is Blind? Leah? Yeah? I actually I 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:24.120 actually would really enjoy watching you do that and then 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.799 your face as the person comes around, knowing that, like 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.560 you know, your main thing is head shots. I just 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.760 not being able to see somebody's face and then developing 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.880 a full relationship is I'm ready for it to happen, 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:39.880 Like I'm about to call their casting, but I'm not 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.120 against that. I think that's a good idea. I think 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.520 that brilliant. I'll talk about it on two teas in 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.240 a pod. It'll be great, Thank you, thank you. I 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.360 think the funny thing will be when no one wants 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:50.880 to date me, They're like, we don't even care if 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:57.240 she's hot, her personality, man, damn. I think my voice 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:01.440 would turn away enough. They'd be like, they'd be like 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.960 and she just kept laughing at her own jokes, like 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.079 I'm so intrigued. She keeps pausing for like seconds on end. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:13.400 What's she going to say next? I should be on 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.680 Love is Blind. That might be the only way for 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:21.400 me to actually find I'm putting it out into the universe. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.079 I think it needs to happen Leah on next season 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:28.280 of Love is Blind. I'll start watching recapping. Dmitri can 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.600 produce it. We can do all the things that sounds. 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.160 I mean. I think I would be very fun on 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.440 reality TV because I just have no filter. I think 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:41.880 you write, especially on a dating show. Mess Is that 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.240 the name of my new dating show, hot mess Um 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:55.920 stood by camp. I'll never turn down a job. Okay, yeah, 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.960 should we just talk about crime or now? Can you 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:03.360 do the first cry? I'm yeah, of course. Look, I 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.760 just would like to put a trigger warning here for 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.840 anyone who is triggered by high sexual assault or and 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:14.800 or rape. We're talking about Bill Cosby. Man. This is 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.760 the case that keeps on not giving. The Supreme Court 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:25.039 declines to consider reinstating Bill cosby sexual assault conviction. On Monday, 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.840 they determined that they would not reinstate Bill Cosby sexual 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.560 ssault conviction, dealing a blow to prosecutors who hoped to 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.880 put the accused sex offender back in prison. Last June, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.640 Cosby was released from prison early when the Pennsylvania Supreme 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.680 Court made the controversial decision to vacate his conviction. He 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.720 was sentenced to three to ten years in prison, the 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.520 pretty big range, if you ask me, in for sexually 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.400 assaulting a former Temple University employee in his mansion in 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.120 two thousand four, one of many sex crimes he's been 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.960 accused of committing during his decades long career the Pennsylvania 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.520 Court and really had quote unquote nothing to do with 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:06.400 guilt or innocence, that's clear. It's really more of a 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.520 reaction to what I would consider a prosecutorial misstep. In 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:13.360 two thousand five, Montgomery count District Attorney Bruce Castor said 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.200 that Cosby would not face criminal prosecution and former Temple 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:22.440 employee Andrea Constance case and knowing that he wouldn't be prosecuted, 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:27.080 he admitted in a deposition in her civil suit against him, 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.120 which was later settled, to giving coaludes to women with 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:35.080 whom he wanted to have sex. But since Kevin Steele 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:39.599 cast her successor didn't honor the former day's agreement with Cosby, 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.520 it was considered that they were using his private confession 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:47.400 against him in court, which helped pave a path to 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:53.839 conviction and raised constitution raised questions about the constitutionality of 0:05:53.880 --> 0:06:00.599 Steele's actions. And you guys, news that in anmitted sex 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:06.719 offender was freed from prison basically on a technicality concerned 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.400 sexual assault survivors who worried that Cosby's released would have 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:15.039 negative repercussions for future future sexual assault cases. So sorry, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:16.599 you guys are gonna have to edit out so many 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:23.080 weird words that I've created today. Um yeah, I mean, 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.720 what do you guys think about this? Do you think 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.520 that there's ever gonna be justice for the alleged victims 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.560 of Bill Cosby? I'm not even sure if we should 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:35.119 say alleged she actually did confess that he gave women 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:41.080 kylus before. I think what you just went through gives 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.880 us that answer, which I think is now, you know, 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:51.159 it's it's unbelievable that on a technicality this is what happens. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:57.040 I find it disgusting because then you're saying that even 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.680 if someone so let's say he murdered someone. Let's say 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.320 he murdered someone, right, it's like, oh, you can just 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.200 get off on a technicality, even if you actually say 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:14.240 that you did it, and you did do it, that's yes, Sorry, 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.840 thank you for taking your role back as sometimes. But 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.520 I just I find this so disheartening for a number 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:27.960 of reasons because it feels like it's a misjustice system, 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.920 not a justice system. If someone confesses to a crime, 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:36.000 how could they get off if they've done the crime. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.520 It just doesn't actually compute in my head. Well, I 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.840 know how it's making me feel, and I've never been 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.360 a victim of this type of you know, so I 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:50.000 can only imagine how it's making the multiple people that 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:54.720 have been wronged and hurt and abused to hear this, 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:56.760 it's got to be disheartening, and then it makes you 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.880 want to not come forward right. And this is also 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.400 you know, it's like part of a bigger me too 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:07.600 movement situation where even if you know you're you're attaching 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.000 your name to something very loaded and you're giving a 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.800 lot of personal information and it's going to be in 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.040 the media forever anytime someone googles your name and then 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:22.040 to not even get justice for being so violated and 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:31.840 so wrong is it's I mean, it's cruel. H Yeah, 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.840 it disgusts me. I mean, look, I think that there 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.960 are a lot of times in media and entertainment where 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:44.040 people have a hard time separating the performer from the person. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.880 You know, the talent from the man. And it's like, sure, 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:55.480 he's a very funny, talented comedian and actor, doesn't mean 0:08:55.520 --> 0:09:00.839 that he gets to not do time for his crime. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:06.480 He committed crimes, multiple sex crimes. I don't understand why 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:09.800 just because you have a lot of money and a 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:14.760 good lawyer and all this sort of because it just 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.559 gets you off that amount of money, and those good 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.679 lawyers are finding loopholes in the system, and that's why 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.360 we're having this conversation. It's so frustrated. But we have 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.679 to move to a lighter crime because this just and 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:34.040 I texted a person involved. So this is from Watch 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.640 What Happens Live? So Carson Cresley dated an AX murder. 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:41.080 Watch video from Watch What Happens Live? Scroll to time 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:46.160 code for twelve. A caller asked Carson the question, Um, 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.560 Carson has a dating history? Okay, like with timelines and 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.440 footnotes and cross the effortcing. Speaking to Andy Cohen on 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.560 Watch What Happens Live, Cressley said the worst date of 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.440 his life was one with a person he categorized as 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.840 an AX murderer. A Apparently, Cressley had taken this fellow 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.200 home after a night at the bars, and the gentleman 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.040 did not get down to business so much as make 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.680 a sandwich. So the guy makes himself a sandwich and 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.880 leaves weird but not earth shattering. Cut till later when 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.240 Cressley happens upon a most Wanted poster and the man 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.280 is wanted for multiple murders. Cressley came out ahead not 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.520 only by getting not getting AX murdered, but also by 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.520 getting a story to eat out on the decade. So 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:32.080 I texted him, you know, because he was my my roommate, 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.920 and I'm like, hey, and care to comment on this 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.040 AX murder story, and he wrote, um, I'll have to 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.280 come on the show. But I think he was wanted 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:51.240 for assault, not murder, so it's not as DICESE. Let 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.239 me just say, if someone came over to my apartment 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.959 and not only didn't try to have sex with me, 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.239 but just wanted to eat of food in my fridge, 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.720 I would wonder if they were just going through a 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:07.160 hard financial time. Well, but you have if it was 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.520 like after a bar or something. There's times that you 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:13.000 want to eat like you're hungry, but making a sandwich 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.400 is one thing. Going through like the Taco Bell drive 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.679 through is another. Yeah. I think it's actually even more 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.120 mentally ill to go to a stranger's house and then 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.679 just go through their rightful through their fridge and make 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.840 yourself a sandwich and then leave. I could see you 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.640 haven't a hit sitting in the corner being like, are 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.240 you only using me for my cold cuts? If they 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.640 grabbed some pretzels lee and maybe they need a little 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:38.240 snack and get their energy up, I didn't know. Well, 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.200 I have PTSD obviously if you can't tell about this 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:46.040 exact premise, but not that I did an AX murderer. 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.240 But I mean, this feels like something I would do, 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.760 but you didd someone who was carbo loading before sex. Hilarious. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.200 I woke up once at five in the morning. This 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.360 is when I lived in New York, and I heard 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:01.839 I would locked my door in New York, my bedroom door, 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.280 no matter what, because I'm crazy and it's New York. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.480 And I started hearing all this banging in my apartment 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.480 and I didn't know what it was, and I thought 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.000 there was a burglar. And then I opened the door 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:24.559 and I see that this guy who had slept over 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.640 was eating all my bagels. What do you mean all 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.080 your bagels? I had a bag of bagels and he 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.080 just like shredded through all of them and he was 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:42.640 real wasted still, and I was like, Okay, um, this 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.640 doesn't seem like a crime to me. I mean, was 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.520 your bagel shop out of business? Came from Okay, so 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:52.040 clearly for sex, and you're not going to trade a 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:56.199 dozen bagels sex with this person. Maybe if you would have, 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.200 he would. He was wasted and he was just like 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.480 opening the ridge and like and like slamming down knives, 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.600 and I was like, what's going on in there? Like 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:10.000 like the cupboards were opening and closing just slamming, well, 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.240 the story is making me want to fake my own abduction, 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:18.960 which takes us to her wow, which takes us to 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:23.600 our next New York Times article. Three weeks after she vanished, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.280 Sherry Peppini was found over a hundred and forty miles 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.120 from her home. According to the authorities, her account of 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.280 being kidnapped was a lie. She said that her captors 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.520 had leashed her to a pole inside a closet a 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.720 bucket of kitty litters serving as her toilet. Then came 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.040 the beatings, and when she tried to escape, she told 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.120 investigators she was branded. That is how Sherry explained to 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:47.520 investigators what happened during her disappearance in two thousand and sixteen, 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.679 a three week ordeal that prompted an intense and costly 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:54.120 searched across northern California, where she had been living, and 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:58.160 several other states. The widely reporting missing person case wound 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.080 down after a truck driver spot in Miss Peppini wandering 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:05.920 along an interstate, but the investigation was not over. Federal 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.960 prosecutors said this week that Ms. Peppini's claims that two 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.040 masked women had abducted her at gunpoint while she was 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.320 on a run in Reading, California. Had been made up 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.839 that she continued her deception when investigators confronted her. In fact, 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.840 prosecutors claim she was married with child two children, and 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.600 was staying with an ex boyfriend and had used prepaid 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.760 cell phones to arrange for him to whisk her some 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:31.680 six hundred miles away from his home from her home. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:37.320 This sounds like a lot of work. Just I mean. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:41.440 She was arrested on Thursday and felony charges making false 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.760 statements to federal law enforcement. The fraud charges stem for 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:49.880 more than thirty thousand and therapy and ambulance services whose 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:57.000 therapy mine from reading this article, this is unbelievable. Um, 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.800 but I we can't miss any time. I really going 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:06.240 down inventing Anna. And while we're already on people faking things, 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:10.480 can you just take a little background on Anna del Wie, 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:14.080 Anna Swarkin. Wait, I just wanted to say, I don't 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.280 see the problem. You know, this woman wanted to go 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:18.960 hang out, She has kids, in a husband, she wanted 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:20.640 to go hang out with her ex boyfriend. Tell me 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.640 another way to do it. If you know another way 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.800 to do it besides faking your own kidnapping and going 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:27.960 to elaborate stories and saying you're gonna have to use 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.840 kitty litter to pee and that you're tied to poles? 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.560 Did bran branding yourself just to have sex with your ex? 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.480 I mean that's how I know the dick was good. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:42.720 That's how you know you're having ows multiple Yeah, you're 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.360 not having to fake it. Yeah, I'm like, wait, can 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.960 you look me up with this guy? All right? Yeah, 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:55.960 let's move right along. Anyways, shall we take a break 0:15:56.040 --> 0:16:00.080 before we get to Anna find sometimes? Wow, you're the 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:04.160 bossy today. I think that was a question. Actually, so 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.520 spin it however you want. All right, we'll be right back. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:24.320 Don't commit any crimes while we're on a break. Thank you, Hello, 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.520 and welcome back to real time crime. I hope you 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.280 didn't commit a sixty second crime. I don't know if 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:33.600 that looks like stealing gum from your neighbor's desk at work? 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.360 Was that a joke? I don't don't know. I don't 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.600 know what anything is anymore. I haven't even had coffee yet. 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.360 Today Teddy was like, let's do the podcast at eleven, 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:45.560 and I was like, okay, did you want me to 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.200 be awake or um lovely, You're like I can do 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.440 eleven thirty and I like trying press, trying to make 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.000 something happen right after this, and it's because you don't 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.760 want to wake up thirty Minutes'll be honest, I'll be honest. 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.960 I had a phone call with Dubai and they made 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.000 me wake up very early, and I was like, I 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.960 won't be able to function. This doesn't seem legal. I 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.399 don't love it. Why didn't? Yeah, I didn't love it 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.720 at all. Turns out a prince over there left her 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.359 some money and she's just trying to I mean, look, yeah, 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.359 well there was a Nigerian prince who asked me to 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.760 wire him twenty dollars and I was like, wait, is 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.280 this Anna Delvie do it? He's like, my name is 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:27.240 Chris coom. Okay. Before we even get into the entire 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.520 Anna case, I need to know are you team Rachel 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:39.240 or Team Anna? I'm Team Anna? What about you? Sometimes? 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.600 I mean, I think it's pretty safe to say that 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:43.760 if Leah says she's teamed something, I have to go with, 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.919 what about you, Teddy? Team Hannah or Team Rachel? I 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:55.000 you know, I can see both sides Here's where let's 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.960 get into that further. Explain to Anna Delvie to people first, 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.240 and then I'm gonna explain why I have my She's 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:05.560 all right. Annah Delvi a k a. Annakin pretended to 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.960 be a German heiress to create the Anna Delvie Foundation, 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.159 an elite club much like the Soho House. But she 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.040 wanted to do this in New York City. And this 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:18.240 all happened in essentially what happened if she swindled. She 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.439 tender swindled New York City elite hotels and banks and 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:27.960 people out of thousands of dollars with posh dinners, vacations, hotels, days, 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.320 and even stole a private jet to go to Omaha, 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.679 all for her Annadelvie Foundation. She even got City National 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.560 and fortressed almost invest millions. She needed forty mill to 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:43.160 make the club so based off Jessica Pressler's New York 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.520 magazine article then turned into a series for Netflix by 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:50.560 Shonda Land. We all are now aware of this story, 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:56.119 and Teddy okay, So a big part of this story 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:00.359 is while Anna was doing all of these things, she 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:07.240 had her bestie and Toe come to Rachel Williams. And 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.920 this is where I have my issue with Rachel, I 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:15.080 personally have never had a friend that has money or 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:20.359 doesn't have money, that bank rolls me to live, never 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:24.240 or vice versa. So but if there any is anyone 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.560 out there listening who's like, Leah, you sound like a 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:30.040 really fun person hang out with, I'll bankroll you. I mean, 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:34.360 Leah's willing to that. Being said, you know, Anna supposedly 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.320 has all this money she's spending, she's staying at all 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:40.639 these hotels, she's throwing hundreds everywhere, she's going on vacations, 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:45.000 and she is taking Rachel with her. Never once is 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.480 Rachel paying for herself to do any of those things. 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.160 I don't know anybody in their right mind that doesn't 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:56.240 know that everything comes with a price. Good call, like, 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:00.439 everything comes with the price, no matter if, like you know, 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:02.359 you have some friends that have more money than you 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:04.800 do and don't. And even then, if you're not going 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.000 half first, you're splitting it like I got you this time, 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.040 you give me the next time, and you actually do that. 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.840 But if you're just letting somebody pay for your trips, 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.200 your hotels, your life or whatever, I'm sorry, it's bounded 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.639 by you in the ass. That wasn't a guy. Do 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.800 we know how this was unfolding. Was She's saying, Hey, 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.359 can I pay for this or on this trip of 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.240 you because I can't afford it? And she was like, no, no, 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.320 I got it. You gotta come. You're my best friend 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:31.240 on this show, you don't. They don't really paint Rachel 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.480 in the best light. They make it out to be 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:37.159 that she was a user of Anna and that she 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:41.080 capitalized on her trauma to make money. She does have 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.520 a New York best selling book called My Friend Anna. 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:51.800 Her instagram is consistently Netflix new series about the con 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.520 artist Ana Sorkin plays lip service to the truth, says 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.639 Rachel Delici Williams, one of her victims, for the world's 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:00.159 most popular streaming service. To allow this to up and 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.320 his appalling, they have ignored the reality of criminal behavior, 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:07.840 of pathological lawing, of reprehensible example setting to create this 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:12.560 fictional alternate version. Certainly the bogus director and this docu 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:16.400 drama Dirty John, also on Netflix, or the conman protagonist 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.640 of its documentary The Tender Swidler are not awarded a 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:24.200 fraction of the sympathy granted Sorkin, But then those shows 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:28.040 were not bankrolling those people, So I mean she has 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:34.240 multiple posts like this. However, shall I go on and 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:38.960 read Anna's post that she's been able to Anna's post 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.440 so much. If you have it readily available, you can 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.200 get to reading um. But the fact that you can 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:49.000 post from Ice is pretty incredible. Well, we should also 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:53.959 note that she was um. She she left prison and 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:58.840 got scooped up by Ice right away because her visa expired. 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:03.119 So she was East on good behavior in February, and 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:06.440 then a month later Ice brought her right back into 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:12.119 custody where she is currently. Okay, now back to you, Teddy. Um. Well, 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.960 now we have to also talk about her money situation. 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:18.199 She was sentenced to Foard to twelve years find twenty 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:21.200 four thousand in order to pay restitution of around a 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:26.160 hundred and nine. Then she was paid three hundred thousand 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:29.479 for her life rights, so pretty much anything that she 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:33.080 did is wiped clean around. I mean, I don't know 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:35.040 how much money am I being a piece of ship 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.119 by saying I just don't even think any of this 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:41.199 is a lot of money. Well, the part that I 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:46.280 don't under like that's a student loan, correct, But I 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:49.600 mean I think Rachel end up putting something like sixty 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:54.000 dollars on her credit card from this vacation she took 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:56.879 with Anna, and you know it was her work card 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.720 and all of these things. But the argument is that 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:03.199 she was never forced to do it, but they you know, 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:05.760 the hotel was asking for it. Um. But I do 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:09.639 want to pull up what Anna's posts are right now, 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:14.760 Anna Delvi is posting from Ice. I've been silent about 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:17.600 this for years. However, over past two weeks of watching 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:21.480 Rachel stubbornly refused to move on from her contrived trauma, 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:25.639 ever Braisen and unchecked, while going on every show that 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.359 will have her, I thought, now I have to, and 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:32.119 if I have to, I will. During her numerous public 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:35.479 cries for attention claiming I ruined her life, relentless Rachel 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:39.040 Deloche Williams conveniently forgets to mention the curious period of 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:42.040 time during the summer of eighteen when she herself, along 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:46.000 with her newly acquired literary agent, we're repeatedly harassing my 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:49.440 lawyer Todd, both via email and phone clear to note 0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:51.960 um to get me to agree to write a book 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.680 together with Rachel. And the best part is, this time 0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:59.040 around around, I've got all the receipts. She doesn't post 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:01.960 the receipts though, right not that I've seen. I know. 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:06.159 Sounds incredible considering Rachel's recent media crusade, during which she 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:09.679 accuses everyone who isn't aligned with her vision of self 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.879 as a wrong martyr star for Justice, of glorifying crime 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:16.040 and giving platform to a con Can anyone please enlighten 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.960 us whether she's done anything at all over the past 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.680 three years other than talking and writing about me, reading 0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:25.359 and dissecting my interviews, taking angry notes, looking for things 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:28.720 to get outraged about. She even quotes post I've deleted 0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:33.240 after fifteen minutes. I can't find yourself someone who's is 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.359 dedicated to you the way Rachel is dedicated to my tayer. 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:40.280 Don't you just look? I know? Don't you just love 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.640 the irony of watching Rachel Delictulliams constantly adjust her very 0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:46.639 flexible moral standards depending on the perspective amount of the 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.600 money that stands to profit based on the latest twist 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.640 in the tail of her unfortunate association with me, before 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:56.399 she epically embarrassed herself during my trial, before Netliks forever 0:24:56.480 --> 0:25:00.159 submitted her very accurate Karen image, her moral come is 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.560 deemed acceptable, suggests we write a book together, all while 0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.800 still pressing charges again against me. She thought she could 0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:10.600 have it all, didn't she. It keeps going on and on, 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.400