Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Reasonably Shaitey. I am just
Speaker 1: a Ryan. What's up? What's up? Everyone? This is Robin Dixon.
Speaker 2: Thank you for being here.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, thank Yeah. Everybody should be like nice
Speaker 1: and full and happy or mad? Right, I'm mad because
Speaker 1: they got into a fight with their family, right like
Speaker 1: happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, like I'm never coming back again.
Speaker 1: I love those family moments.
Speaker 2: I wish I had something like that. You know what,
Speaker 2: I actually have had my brother years ago. He would
Speaker 2: always be good for a moment like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he likes storm out the house.
Speaker 3: Has he ever stormed out?
Speaker 2: I don't know if he ever stormed out, but he
Speaker 2: would make things just very tense.
Speaker 1: Yes, you can cut that dientcher with a knife, honey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it would like carry over for like months,
Speaker 2: where like he stopped talking to people.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. Okay, So, as a matter if
Speaker 1: I I want to ask the folks right now, send
Speaker 1: us your crazy current like this. Just this past Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: they had me like family drama over Thanksgiving. Yes, give
Speaker 1: us the tea. We want the story, so like email
Speaker 1: that to us.
Speaker 2: Yes, that would be fun. Yes, And I've had plenty
Speaker 2: of those with like Wand's family when we.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, my sister has stormed out a couple of times.
Speaker 1: But anyway, normally sometimes when back when I was younger
Speaker 1: and I had a very hot temper, it was me
Speaker 1: really oh yeah, but I mean I would eat first.
Speaker 1: Of course you got a hot temper, I used to Yes, anyway,
Speaker 1: we're moving on, so no, no, no, anyway, what I did,
Speaker 1: I used to have a very hot I mean I
Speaker 1: would get angry very quickly and then just like say
Speaker 1: what I had to say I had and then I
Speaker 1: didn't have a filter. Yeah. Now I have a filter.
Speaker 1: I don't get that angry, and I'm a much better person. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: Like at what age did these were my twenties or
Speaker 1: the twenties was like rip rain yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I was on fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like for me, well I think I've
Speaker 2: said this, well, I don't know. Sometimes it's still here.
Speaker 2: But when once I had kids, I really kind of.
Speaker 1: Like calm down. Yes, absolutely, I definitely calm down. Yeah. Yeah. Okay,
Speaker 1: what's your shady moment? Any shady moment? Oh?
Speaker 2: I mean okay, so I'm talking to you right now
Speaker 2: on like less than one hour cumulative of sleep.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're working on fumes. Yeah, fumes. I'm
Speaker 1: on fumes.
Speaker 3: And it is because that.
Speaker 2: Juan Dixon, what did he do? Has no consideration for
Speaker 2: people sleeping? So okay, he he he's in his basketball season.
Speaker 3: His team is going on a road trip, all right.
Speaker 2: So they're on a two game road trip, which means
Speaker 2: they're gonna be gone you know, one, two, three.
Speaker 1: Probably like four or five days, all right.
Speaker 2: So you know he's he always waits till the last
Speaker 2: minute to pack. So he comes into the bedroom midnight. Oh,
Speaker 2: I got a pack, but I'm tired. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: lay down for a second.
Speaker 1: Okay, So is that is that a second for somethings?
Speaker 1: That code for robbing? You packed my clothes? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I can't do it.
Speaker 2: Like he's so particular, like so particular, So I can't
Speaker 2: help him there. But he but and keep this in mind,
Speaker 2: he had to leave the house by six am because
Speaker 2: they were flying out this morning. Right, okay, so twelve
Speaker 2: you haven't packed and you're laying down in the bed.
Speaker 2: Not good, right, It's not for a few minutes with you, okay.
Speaker 2: So he sets he sets an alarm, okay for like
Speaker 2: forty five minutes. I don't Yeah, I don't even know
Speaker 2: what the time was, so, you know, I doze off,
Speaker 2: and what feels like a few minutes later he was
Speaker 2: the alarm.
Speaker 1: He's not turn it off.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, turn your alarm off, or I'm like,
Speaker 2: get up right, He's like, all right, just give me
Speaker 2: a little more, give me a little more time whatever.
Speaker 2: A few minutes later, he doesn't get up. He doesn't
Speaker 2: get up. I swear the whole entire night. His alarm
Speaker 2: went up, like he snoozed his alarm the entire night.
Speaker 1: Oh we'd have been fighting, yes, And I'm like, so,
Speaker 1: I'm like, can you turn your alarm? Can you get up?
Speaker 2: Turn your alarm? He's he has a nerve to say, Robin,
Speaker 2: I'm cool, I.
Speaker 1: Said, but I'm not. Yes, you're literally sleeping through.
Speaker 3: This breaking alarm.
Speaker 1: I'm cool, Like I'm fine, Yes, okay, you know, not
Speaker 1: the only one in the.
Speaker 3: Room, sir, I said, But I'm not.
Speaker 1: What then that's funny, right, Actually that's actually that's actually absurd.
Speaker 1: But we love why so we won't like trash. It's insane.
Speaker 2: He had the nerve so so so, and I'm the
Speaker 2: type like I can't just fall back to sleep. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's like you, if I'm awaken in the middle of
Speaker 2: the night, it really takes me a long time to
Speaker 2: fall back to sleep. So it's like I will finally
Speaker 2: fall back to sleep. And then it said, and I'm like, y'all.
Speaker 1: Get I would have rolled up and punched him. I
Speaker 1: straight up, what have I smacked the living daylights out
Speaker 1: of him?
Speaker 2: So then he had the nerve to say was He's
Speaker 2: like oh, And then of course, like once he does
Speaker 2: get up and starts packing, he's all talking and has
Speaker 2: the light on.
Speaker 1: And you know, the light fine, I put it.
Speaker 3: I put a little eye mask on that ship was.
Speaker 2: Annoying, Like I don't really wear sleep masks, especially because
Speaker 2: my lashes, you know, the extensions.
Speaker 3: That was uncomfortable. So I'm all tossing and turning.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just a mass. It's a mask.
Speaker 2: Then on top of that, right, so his colm blue
Speaker 2: to story, But my brother in law and the baby
Speaker 2: were here.
Speaker 1: Are they still here?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, they'll cut out in January, okay, But he
Speaker 2: spent the night because my brother in law was on
Speaker 2: the coaching staff and they were both going to the
Speaker 2: you know, the airport together, but his wife was on
Speaker 2: a trip, not coming back till tonight.
Speaker 1: Where's the baby?
Speaker 2: So then I had to wake up extra early to
Speaker 2: get the baby ready for daycare.
Speaker 1: This is just a mass okay, So basically you have
Speaker 1: thirty minutes asleep. Okay, hear the baby Wan Dixon and
Speaker 1: your brother in law.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is a mask, which is and I'm like
Speaker 2: the whole night, I'm like, oh my gosh, i gotta
Speaker 2: work tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Go to podcasts. I'm not even gonna know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We got so much right, so right now it's disclaimer.
Speaker 1: Whatever comes out of Robin's mouth, just blame it on
Speaker 1: the lack of sleep, yes, okay, yes.
Speaker 3: I'm present or extra cranky, yes, blame it on that.
Speaker 1: Okay. So let me give you my reasonably shady moment
Speaker 1: of the week. Okay, Okay, So you don't have three girls.
Speaker 1: They're in high school. This week is spirit week, right,
Speaker 1: so every day they have to dress up as something. Okay,
Speaker 1: so first day they two days ago, and they participate, yeah,
Speaker 1: full on Okay, at the whole school, full on participate.
Speaker 1: Really because it's like all girls, they all get into it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm saying the school is all girls. So they get in,
Speaker 1: they get into it. Adores the vice president of her class.
Speaker 2: So she's like, okay, making sure they're all until she's
Speaker 2: like picking the themes.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So theme for the first day was be
Speaker 1: your favorite celebrity. Grace decided she was going to be
Speaker 1: this woman and she needed like a blond wig. She
Speaker 1: on a shirt that said the Real Housewives Potomac. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: she was meet okay, And I thought that was so cute,
Speaker 1: right until she started talking Oh no, and she was
Speaker 1: like right on the street is oh not on the street,
Speaker 1: and yeah, that's right, That's what I'm talking about. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. It was so shady and so horrible. I
Speaker 1: was so angry with her. I was like, okay, I've
Speaker 1: had it, Like after twenty minutes. I was like, I've
Speaker 1: had a knife, and leave my house and stop it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And so like I'm sure all day long,
Speaker 1: and then she she would send me pictures of herself
Speaker 1: with like her friends of all day and listen, she
Speaker 1: kept that blonde wig on her head all day. She
Speaker 1: was so excited. And I was like, if word on
Speaker 1: the street comes out of your mouth one more time, no,
Speaker 1: we gonna fight up here. You see what you did?
Speaker 1: You did it, I did it. You did it.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. Okay, wait, so did she look like you
Speaker 2: kinda yeah, kind of sort.
Speaker 1: I mean she, out of all three of my kids,
Speaker 1: looks the most like me, So yes, I mean she did,
Speaker 1: but she was It was actually nice because she was
Speaker 1: so excited to do it. But I think she was
Speaker 1: excited to be shape of course, and she came up
Speaker 1: with that r oh. She's like, Mammy, I'm gonna be you.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, this is so nice. And
Speaker 1: then that thing got she got into sell mode.
Speaker 2: So do you think she was she saying that at
Speaker 2: school to her friend. I'm sure I am so.
Speaker 1: She said all of her teachers loved it, like they were.
Speaker 1: They were excited about it, she said, even an older
Speaker 1: lady that's like the chairman of the board. The next
Speaker 1: day she saw Grace and she was like, I really
Speaker 1: liked your costume. You really look like your mom. And
Speaker 1: Grace was like very happy. So that I mean, it's
Speaker 1: nice that she loves me enough to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she was super shady.
Speaker 1: That's funny way, But we have a super exciting special
Speaker 1: guest to today, y'all get ready to get ready, to
Speaker 1: get ready, get runner. Who is it? Okay? So, like
Speaker 1: I said, we have this super special sing guest on
Speaker 1: this show. Y'all. Okay, let me give him his first
Speaker 1: his credentials. Okay, So he's a more House grad. He
Speaker 1: is a pastor extraordinaire. Actually, he's the best pastor preacher
Speaker 1: on the planet, on the planet, on the planet. Put
Speaker 1: all your money on it. I will put all my
Speaker 1: money on it.
Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 1: He's actually the senior pastor of New Birth Missionary Baptist
Speaker 1: Church in Atlanta, Georgia. He's the only guy I've ever married,
Speaker 1: the only one, Yes, the only one. And he is
Speaker 1: the father to all three of my kids.
Speaker 3: Do you think he will he will continue to be
Speaker 3: the only one ever.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We shall see, but he is. He
Speaker 1: is the father to all three of my kids. Y'all
Speaker 1: know him as passed to Jamal Harrison Bryan. He is
Speaker 1: in the belt ding. What is going on? Past up?
Speaker 4: Oh good, Robin asked Zella.
Speaker 5: I made a promise to her about some ice Chipsla,
Speaker 5: What is.
Speaker 1: That with the ice chips? He said, When we get older,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the way feeding the ice chips. As
Speaker 1: I'm laying in the bed like an valid, he's feeding
Speaker 1: me like I don't know if that's a good Is
Speaker 1: that a compliment?
Speaker 4: And what is that? That's a big compliment?
Speaker 2: Yes, that means you are He is with you forever ever.
Speaker 2: One look, let me tell you what one asked me
Speaker 2: the other day. It's a little graphic. He said, are
Speaker 2: you going to white my butts?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So let me say this to you, Robert, Let me
Speaker 4: say to this do you Robin? I wouldn't even.
Speaker 5: Have my feelings hurt to ask Jazelle that question. I
Speaker 5: already know the answer. But that nurse is coming in
Speaker 5: five second.
Speaker 1: I said, what are you gonna white? Mind? I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the two ways, right, Jamal, you gonna wipe mine?
Speaker 4: I want to get that nurse.
Speaker 1: The ice tip you just that's that's your limit. Okay.
Speaker 1: So we have some first, we have some get to
Speaker 1: know you rapid fire questions. Are you ready?
Speaker 4: I'm ready?
Speaker 1: Tupac or Biggie Bicky Fantasia or Jennifer Hudson Fantasia, Kobe
Speaker 1: Bryant or Michael Jordan h.
Speaker 4: I gotta go with Michael Christmas.
Speaker 1: Or Thanksgiving, Christmas? Atlanta or Baltimore. What you got?
Speaker 4: You gotta pick who's listening.
Speaker 1: Everyone listening Baltimore and Atlanta or listening.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I'm with Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're in Atlanta. Okay? Reasonable or shady?
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, reasonable?
Speaker 1: Reasonable?
Speaker 3: Okay, you're a lying Do you agree with that?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't agree with that because I just
Speaker 1: wanted y'all to know I know this man for a
Speaker 1: very long time. Half of my shadiness I get from
Speaker 1: Jamal Bryants in the other half from your dad.
Speaker 5: This was all a lie from her day, right. Her
Speaker 5: dad is the black siin fel dry humor up. But
Speaker 5: he's gonna shak you in.
Speaker 3: The shower, Yes, not shake you in the shower.
Speaker 1: Leave my dad out of this. First and foremost, you
Speaker 1: know you You are a preacher, extraordinary and you like
Speaker 1: say whatever it is that you feel is in your
Speaker 1: heart or on your mind, and sometimes that allows for
Speaker 1: the haters to hate on you because you know you
Speaker 1: stand on whatever it is that you believe. So over
Speaker 1: the years, you know, Rober and I feel like, I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: we have a whole lot of hate that comes our way.
Speaker 1: The evolution of hater ration. Okay, because before social media,
Speaker 1: and I know I can speak from experience with just
Speaker 1: being around you, you know, you would get hate in
Speaker 1: the streets of Baltimore by other preachers. You know, you
Speaker 1: were like the Golden Child. Your church was growing by
Speaker 1: leaps and bounds and there's wasn't So how do you
Speaker 1: deal with haters? Then the evolution of hating, and then
Speaker 1: like the social media hate of it all.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: John Maxwell said this Robin that if you want to
Speaker 5: be like to sell ice crank, that anything that you
Speaker 5: do outside of that is going to be controversial. And
Speaker 5: we have gotten to a place where we think to
Speaker 5: be famous, to be successful, it's anonymous with being adored.
Speaker 5: And the reality is there is nobody in public space
Speaker 5: who doesn't get there without critique. And so, whether you're
Speaker 5: dealing with politics or an athlete or an entertainer or
Speaker 5: a preacher, if you put yourself upfront, doctor King said,
Speaker 5: if you're upfront and nobody is kicking your behind, you're
Speaker 5: really not needing well. And so I think it's really
Speaker 5: the mus tests of finding out who your value is.
Speaker 2: Who Now did you did you always feel that way
Speaker 2: or did you have to did you have to develop that?
Speaker 4: No, it's perrier water. It is an acquired taste.
Speaker 5: It is shocking, Cornell West uh said, Uh, the most.
Speaker 4: Painful thing you'll ever do is be hated on by
Speaker 4: people you love. Uh.
Speaker 5: And so to go through the blows is not robbing
Speaker 5: white supremacists threaten you. It ain't people from the tea.
Speaker 4: Party who have you.
Speaker 5: Is people who you're trying to represent on a global stage.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: And you're doing it and you're not twerking. You're doing it,
Speaker 5: and you're not being vogue or profane. You're raising your children,
Speaker 5: loving your husband, doing what it is the ideal of
Speaker 5: our people. And then you've got to fight through what
Speaker 5: James Baldwin called survivors killed.
Speaker 4: You are made to feel bad because you do well. Uh.
Speaker 5: And it really just shows how toxic many of our
Speaker 5: people think.
Speaker 1: Damn that was good, right, Okay, sot Alright, but Jamal,
Speaker 1: do you feel like something so you feel like we
Speaker 1: get the we as in as in the black community
Speaker 1: gets the most hate from the black community. It just
Speaker 1: hurts the most.
Speaker 4: Oh, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The old thing is that hurt people, hurt people.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: And I heard a quote this way. Haters are people
Speaker 5: who don't know how to say they love you. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so a lot of people who hate you really want
Speaker 5: to you. A lot of people who hate you I
Speaker 5: want to take your place. And so you've got to
Speaker 5: see what is their level of brokenness. You opened up
Speaker 5: just I'll talking about they hated you because your church
Speaker 5: is growing in NAIs is not and a lot of
Speaker 5: people we attack who we should be learning from.
Speaker 4: And so instead of beating me up, they hate Jamaal.
Speaker 4: How did you do this?
Speaker 5: But we're not used to men towards ship, We're not
Speaker 5: used to legitimate friendships. It's really the straight bullets of
Speaker 5: social media that when I followed you on Facebook, I'm
Speaker 5: called a friend. You did not frame me, you followed me,
Speaker 5: and it has reduced what is the value of what
Speaker 5: real friendship is?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I like you know. I can say that
Speaker 1: because because we've talked a lot about how you and
Speaker 1: I both deal with social media and just hate and
Speaker 1: it just rolls off our back. I want to say
Speaker 1: that forty percent of that I got from Jamal just
Speaker 1: being with him when he was first starting out and
Speaker 1: pastoring his church, and just all the negativity that would
Speaker 1: come his way. He just didn't care at all, like
Speaker 1: it just didn't affect him. And I appreciate it because
Speaker 1: you know, he would just keep it moving and be
Speaker 1: greater and greater every Sunday. He was just greater than
Speaker 1: the next Sunday. So thank you, sir, You gave me
Speaker 1: a little something something out here in these streets.
Speaker 5: No, let me say to you, Gizelle one in that vein,
Speaker 5: how proud of you I am. And I don't mean
Speaker 5: that in any condescending way. My greatest fear when you
Speaker 5: went on the reality television was how were you going
Speaker 5: to be able to handle that level of scrutiny and attack.
Speaker 4: And you have done.
Speaker 5: It in a very graceful fashion that in many ways
Speaker 5: I have been surprised about.
Speaker 4: But Giselle and I.
Speaker 5: Robin met not in church but working in the NAACP.
Speaker 5: So the people who I looked up to were Doctor King,
Speaker 5: was Malcolm X, was Adam Clayton Powell who were speaking
Speaker 5: out and Giselle.
Speaker 4: Look at the contrasts.
Speaker 5: Their haters was burning crosses in their front yard, were
Speaker 5: shooting at their wife. All I got to deal with
Speaker 5: is a blogger. It's light emparrassing to the people who
Speaker 5: I look up to and what they had been doing.
Speaker 5: You know, I wasn't coming to you Grace Angel and
Speaker 5: Door Black, and we got to leave at midnight the
Speaker 5: blog because it was just.
Speaker 4: It's just the reality of the space.
Speaker 5: That this is the safest hour as a civil rights
Speaker 5: leader to be hated. If the only thing that you
Speaker 5: got to be afraid of is a keyboard, I.
Speaker 4: Can't and I'll take.
Speaker 1: It, okay, So come on that vein. I think the
Speaker 1: whole world saw your takedown of Hershelwalker, like the beginning
Speaker 1: of your sermon in what you talked about Hershel Walker
Speaker 1: and the fact that we don't need him. That thing
Speaker 1: went viral. Andy Cohen saw it. He texted me at
Speaker 1: eightyclock in the morning. I didn't think that Andy listened
Speaker 1: to a black preacher. You're probably the first black preacher
Speaker 1: Andy has ever listened to.
Speaker 3: Where was it replayed for him to get a hold
Speaker 3: of that who God only knows?
Speaker 1: God only knows, Georgia.
Speaker 6: I need you to know the slave Nick ro y'all
Speaker 6: not used to don't live here no more. We can't
Speaker 6: think by ourself, function for ourself, and vote bysell Why
Speaker 6: because we don't need a walk god A.
Speaker 1: That was amazing, Jamal, that's that's you know, typical best
Speaker 1: preacher and the whole planet. That's what he does. But
Speaker 1: but now that we have not one in Georgia, are
Speaker 1: you frustrated with the fact that Hershel Walker and Warnot
Speaker 1: they got to run again?
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I'm frustrated, but I'm excited that people of
Speaker 5: Georgia have done it before. When Raphael first got elected,
Speaker 5: we had to go to a runoff because Giselle different
Speaker 5: from Maryland. You don't win in Georgia because you have
Speaker 5: the highest amount of votes. You have to have fifty
Speaker 5: plus one percent. So Raphael had over i think fifty
Speaker 5: thousand more votes.
Speaker 4: And so I think that people are really mobilized.
Speaker 5: One thing about black people, if they feel like there's
Speaker 5: a fight, they're coming to watch it.
Speaker 4: So I think that people are mobilized.
Speaker 5: And it were just unearthed yesterday that if one hypothetically
Speaker 5: gave to Hershel Walker's campaign one hundred dollars, only ten
Speaker 5: of it went to Hershelwalker. Oh wow, ninety of those
Speaker 5: dollars went to Trump. What And so they just hit
Speaker 5: the press today that he wasn't even getting his money.
Speaker 5: So they've been pumped, pimping him at a level that
Speaker 5: herschel Walker didn't even know.
Speaker 1: Wow. Speaking speaking of Trump, you know, he just decided
Speaker 1: he was gonna run again. Don't you want to, like
Speaker 1: sing the song for Frozen? What's that? Let it go,
Speaker 1: Let it go, Let it go, Let it go. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just feel like there is no wind in his sales.
Speaker 1: I think that it's a rap and he's the only
Speaker 1: one that doesn't know it.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 5: I think he is a gift to the Democratic Party
Speaker 5: because it slows down everybody else who is a Republican
Speaker 5: who's thinking about running, because he is such a megalo
Speaker 5: maniac and his ego makes him delusional about facts. That's
Speaker 5: how the midterms didn't go in the way that the
Speaker 5: Republicans thought, because these were all Trump candidates. And so
Speaker 5: I think him staying in the race is going to
Speaker 5: lower the money for the Republicans and lower the enthusiasm
Speaker 5: of that base.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it will keep me entertained.
Speaker 1: I will say that.
Speaker 2: I can I tell you, without Trump on my TV
Speaker 2: screen every day, I didn't have as much to laugh about.
Speaker 1: This is very true. I am looking forward to that. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: And if you didn't see the did Jamal takedown of
Speaker 1: a Hersha Walker. Just google it, child, get your entire life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now let's let stand on that. On that topic,
Speaker 2: I think it's the one thing. One advantage about Warnock
Speaker 2: and Walker running again is that now we can focus
Speaker 2: all of our attention on bringing attention to that very
Speaker 2: important race in Georgia.
Speaker 1: So you know, we were here Maryland.
Speaker 2: We're pushing for our Maryland candidates, but we can tell
Speaker 2: everybody you know repeatedly to vote for Warnock because I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know who in the right mind can check
Speaker 2: off a box for herschel Walker like I don't.
Speaker 1: I just that is the.
Speaker 4: Most asa Georgia. Yes, this guy can't conjugate a bird.
Speaker 1: It's just it's pathetic. I listen.
Speaker 2: I was listening to him the other day and I
Speaker 2: was like, I cannot believe that this is reality. But
Speaker 2: now at least we can focus all of our attention
Speaker 2: on making sure he does not get elected.
Speaker 1: True, true, true. Okay, moving on, So, Jamal and I
Speaker 1: have three beautiful daughters, Grace, Angel and a Door. I
Speaker 1: love them so much and I'm actually proud of my kids,
Speaker 1: like I think that they are amazing.
Speaker 3: They are beautiful amazing, respectful.
Speaker 1: They are kind, they are I just learned this. I
Speaker 1: learned this morning, Jamal. I don't know if you if
Speaker 1: you know, there's that Grace takes a class and right
Speaker 1: now currently that is like I don't know what it's called,
Speaker 1: but it's like she helps students with special needs. Oh nice.
Speaker 1: So but the class is about like her tutoring them
Speaker 1: and her helping them. And I felt like at her age.
Speaker 1: If I when I was her age, there's no way
Speaker 1: in hell that I would have the patience to do
Speaker 1: something like that. I credit Jamal. I think she got
Speaker 1: her patience from you. You know, Jamal is very compassionate
Speaker 1: and he's he has a gift for just giving service
Speaker 1: and service. So thank you you gave that to Grace
Speaker 1: because she is. I saw her interact with one of
Speaker 1: the young ladies that go to school has with special needs,
Speaker 1: and Grace was just like so amazing with her. So
Speaker 1: I give you all that, mister Bryant. Now I feel
Speaker 1: like we're able to co parent very well. I'm going
Speaker 1: to toot my own horn a little bit and say that,
Speaker 1: you know, when Jamal and I were first getting a divorce,
Speaker 1: I decided that however, mad I was at him was
Speaker 1: not as important as him being in my kid's life. Right, absolutely,
Speaker 1: What would you think is our greatest gift to our kids?
Speaker 5: Jamal were Number one, you are an amazing mother and
Speaker 5: I am eternally indebted for the incredible way that you
Speaker 5: have modeled in front of our girls. And I don't
Speaker 5: want people to think we've just arrived here.
Speaker 4: This was not an easy road to get to where
Speaker 4: it is that we are.
Speaker 5: We were intentional about doing family counseling with the girls
Speaker 5: and with Giselle and I because it was here a
Speaker 5: shama for a minute, but it was, but we were
Speaker 5: really committed for the sake of the girls.
Speaker 4: On how it is that we were modeled before each other.
Speaker 4: So we've been divorced for twelve years, a.
Speaker 1: Long time, long time, but he's still here.
Speaker 4: He's twelve years and twelve years.
Speaker 5: I can only think of one major blow up that
Speaker 5: we've had with the girls present, and I'm just thankful
Speaker 5: on God one that you have been mindful of my
Speaker 5: presence and how it is that you have navigated co
Speaker 5: parenting long distance, which is a whole different all of wax,
Speaker 5: but it's been greater.
Speaker 4: So every day is Mother's Day. And that's really why
Speaker 4: I'm nice to you, okay.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that. And this is for people that
Speaker 1: are going through divorce right now, I said to Jamal,
Speaker 1: because Jamal travels a lot. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what your calendar and your schedule is now, but at
Speaker 1: the time, Jamal would be booked a year out for
Speaker 1: you know, going around the world. He's he's a preacher international.
Speaker 1: He wants me to say that he's a globe trotting preacher.
Speaker 1: And I knew because of his schedule that he couldn't
Speaker 1: have a consistent schedule with the girl, like we couldn't
Speaker 1: do every other weekend or anything like that. So I
Speaker 1: said to him, look, anytime it is, it has something.
Speaker 1: Anytime there is a moment that has something to do
Speaker 1: with the girls, if it's a vacation, if it's a dinner,
Speaker 1: if it's or whatever, you are invited, okay. And so
Speaker 1: I always left the window open for him to jump
Speaker 1: in whenever he could, and he does. He jumps in
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful, I mean. And unfortunately, so many relationships or
Speaker 2: the parent they can't get along and they can't.
Speaker 1: Look at the bigger picture.
Speaker 3: Which is the children when they go through a divorce.
Speaker 2: And so I definitely think you all are an example
Speaker 2: for so many people in this world. Yeah, people hold
Speaker 2: on the bitterness and anger and it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just like you just got to let that go
Speaker 2: and look at the big picture, which is the kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love my kids more than I will ever
Speaker 1: be mad at that man. And now I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at him, no more so any way. Okay, so a
Speaker 1: couple of things, Oh, a couple week he said this week.
Speaker 1: You know, Jamal is good about not bragging on himself,
Speaker 1: but there's a little brag. I want to do. You
Speaker 1: feed the community. When the COVID first started, New Birth
Speaker 1: was very intentional about feeding the community. You have fed
Speaker 1: how many I'm saying it wrong, you have done how many?
Speaker 4: How many?
Speaker 5: So in the in the pandemic, we started giving out
Speaker 5: groceries and just a month ago we hit one million
Speaker 5: families that we give groceries to in the last years.
Speaker 5: And it is great and it is embarrassing to know
Speaker 5: that food and security is that diar.
Speaker 4: And we're just talking about one metropolitan Eric.
Speaker 5: For Thanksgiving, we're given out five thousand turkeys. While that
Speaker 5: sounds good in one way and another way, it's sad
Speaker 5: that it has.
Speaker 4: To be done. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now we said one million groceries two years, families, one
Speaker 2: million family, one million bags of groceries in two years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's fantastic.
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. I remember when I was when we were
Speaker 1: married and I was the first Lady of the Primate Temple,
Speaker 1: the Women's Ministry would that.
Speaker 2: You know what, I know my next question, the Women's
Speaker 2: Ministry would decided to has his hands over his.
Speaker 1: Space, right space. We decided to feed as many families
Speaker 1: as we could and literally go to their house knock
Speaker 1: on the door the food.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: So I had like a bus. I had security. I
Speaker 1: was pregnant at the time with one of them kids
Speaker 1: I have, and I was going knocking on doors. So
Speaker 1: it's like I was in the hood of Baltimore knocking
Speaker 1: on doors. You did not know what was going to
Speaker 1: open the door. So all kinds of things was opening
Speaker 1: the door as I was.
Speaker 4: We forgot about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, obviously we were blessing them, but it
Speaker 1: was such a blessing to me to be able to
Speaker 1: give them what the Church gave them and for me,
Speaker 1: like they would invite me in. It would be like
Speaker 1: a weed infested smelling house. And they would invite me in,
Speaker 1: and I would prag with them a little bit, and
Speaker 1: I would say Happy Thanksgiving. But we made sure that
Speaker 1: we gave them food from Thanksgiving to Christmas. Wow. So right,
Speaker 1: enough food for to last at least a month. Wow.
Speaker 1: So yes, that's what I did as first lady at
Speaker 1: a POM. That is fantastic.
Speaker 2: So look, speaking of Jaselle being first lady at Empowerment Temple,
Speaker 2: tell us Jamal, how was Jazelle as a first lady?
Speaker 1: There's a par.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, So Giselle was not a Mother Teresa first
Speaker 5: lady in her head, she was a Michelle Obama first lady.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was so.
Speaker 4: Yes, she was coming in waving.
Speaker 1: Uh Obama before Obama. That is such a lot I
Speaker 1: was not waving to the crowd.
Speaker 5: Was great she was. She was the black princess die.
Speaker 5: She did a great job.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, well while we're on that that note.
Speaker 5: She did our first women's conference. Yes, she did a
Speaker 5: whole lot of mentoring. A lot of the young girls
Speaker 5: came to her for mentoring. A lot of the young
Speaker 5: ladies who had come to Baltimore to go to either
Speaker 5: Copping or Morgan really pulled on her.
Speaker 4: She wrote a whole lot of AKA letters. Half of
Speaker 4: the ak's in Baltimore. Wow, got letters from joselle Oh.
Speaker 1: Wow, listen, I was the bomb. Okay even back then.
Speaker 1: Now now now, I want to say, there's some things
Speaker 1: that I missed not being married to Jamal Brian.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, which is one of the things.
Speaker 1: I used to complain about. I think I now miss it. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: So you know, like I said, Jamal travels a lot,
Speaker 1: so he would have to get his his suits and
Speaker 1: his ties and his shirts together before he would go
Speaker 1: on his trips. So he would always be like, wake
Speaker 1: me up out of my sleep. Now you want to
Speaker 1: be sleep, and when you're sleep, leave me alone, right,
Speaker 1: But he would wake me up. I turn on all
Speaker 1: the lights. He would say, Giselle, does his suit go
Speaker 1: with this tie? But does his shirt go with this tie?
Speaker 1: When this suit? Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, let me get three other ties. Okay
Speaker 1: did these three ties go with this five shirts? I
Speaker 1: mean it was like, so you miss this. Now I'm
Speaker 1: just saying giving.
Speaker 5: You half in the store what she misses that I
Speaker 5: was picking her clothes out.
Speaker 4: That's what she missed when I was taking her clothes out, Robbing.
Speaker 4: She wasn't in no blow somebody when I don't pick
Speaker 4: it out?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, okay, the same that.
Speaker 4: We brought this off.
Speaker 5: This.
Speaker 4: I need you to be a witness, Robbin. You gotta
Speaker 4: be a with jam.
Speaker 1: Was my first stylist.
Speaker 4: Truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, Robbing.
Speaker 4: When I first met you? Where did I meet you?
Speaker 1: You met me at the N double A C.
Speaker 4: When did I first meet you? Robin?
Speaker 1: Oh rob oh okay yes as sex, yes, true, very true.
Speaker 1: Yes that sex.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So she does not miss picking out my tis.
Speaker 4: She misses me dressing her. Yes, but she's not going
Speaker 4: to give convention to Okay.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is this is a breaking moment. Yes, Jamal
Speaker 1: Bryant was my first stylist. Really, yes, and my last
Speaker 1: right and you're only and my only yes, okay.
Speaker 2: See one of my I had one of my questions
Speaker 2: for Jamal was how does he go about picking his
Speaker 2: outfits out? Because you know, you look nice and sharp now,
Speaker 2: but I've seen sometimes you have, like, you know, a
Speaker 2: pink tie and a pink, silky.
Speaker 1: S about them Detroit player suits you had, Okay, you
Speaker 1: had some plenty of Detroit player suits.
Speaker 2: Ok do you have a tailor and you're just like,
Speaker 2: give me one of every color, give me everything in
Speaker 2: every color, in every print.
Speaker 1: Water shade is coming.
Speaker 4: It's a work in progress.
Speaker 5: So when I was a US in Detroit, uh, that's
Speaker 5: when I started wearing gatos. So when I met Jizelle,
Speaker 5: I had different colored Gatos for every suit. Jazelle threw
Speaker 5: my gators out. Yes, I've tried to purge. I've tried
Speaker 5: to purge that part in and walk backwards.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a working yes, But I mean they were like,
Speaker 1: they were like, it's like a whole green suit with
Speaker 1: the match of green, gatas orange suits with that match
Speaker 1: of orange. He had this one white leather.
Speaker 4: He wasn't ready.
Speaker 1: It's definitely not ready. I don't know you were killing them,
Speaker 1: but they weren't ready. White leather trench coat. I couldn't
Speaker 1: wait for him to go white, a trip leather. I
Speaker 1: threw that thing in the trash can. I said, I
Speaker 1: can't do this.
Speaker 4: You ain't never saying a trench coat in white ripping.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: Twenty years later, I was ahead of my time.
Speaker 1: White leather. Oh cause, okay, So where is that bat?
Speaker 1: I threw it in the trash can Jamal Bryant's it's gone.
Speaker 2: Okay, that thing probably costs fourteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: It is gone. I couldn't take it. But no, I
Speaker 1: feel like you have come a long way and I
Speaker 1: love you. Do you do rock the dashiki situation? Sometimes?
Speaker 1: I see you on the Instagram? So, so do you
Speaker 1: like dashiki? A suits?
Speaker 4: Get you a man that could do bothse?
Speaker 1: Did you a man that can do both? Is that
Speaker 1: what he's but to answer your question, he has tailors
Speaker 1: upon tailors upon Taylors.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I believe that.
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, See, I'm not a really good cook, so
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't I didn't really whine and dine
Speaker 1: in Jamal by my home cooking? Right? But what was
Speaker 1: your the favorite part of you?
Speaker 4: Let me tell you that. I gotta tell you this.
Speaker 4: Do you know what our first fight was in marriage?
Speaker 1: What was that? I have no idea?
Speaker 4: When are you going to the Supermarke?
Speaker 1: You didn't know.
Speaker 4: She was coming back with chips and start getting a
Speaker 4: home cooked meals so the Girls was born?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, but yeah, in my defense, in
Speaker 1: my defense, Jamal, you like to go to restaurants to eat.
Speaker 1: You like to do that.
Speaker 5: Well, when we're sitting in the same house, you got
Speaker 5: Robin this is two thousand.
Speaker 4: Wasn't no uber, No, there was no brother.
Speaker 1: This is the just.
Speaker 4: Got off a motor two way pages something.
Speaker 1: Okay, this was actually gonna be my last question to you,
Speaker 1: and we might finish it just for what he just said.
Speaker 1: But anyway, okay, so what was the best part about
Speaker 1: being married to Jiselle? Because you're the only person on
Speaker 1: this planet that has been married to me.
Speaker 4: There's a reason there's a be a whole other show.
Speaker 1: Give it to you.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, Jouzelle pushed me to be better and
Speaker 5: she's the only one outside of my parents who has
Speaker 5: spoken into my life to really push me to go
Speaker 5: to another level. I preached at a conference at my
Speaker 5: home church one day and I thought I.
Speaker 4: Killed that job. I mean, I thought Star Wars the
Speaker 4: Force was with and Giselle.
Speaker 5: We got in the car and Jaseelle's like, you have
Speaker 5: really stopped growing?
Speaker 4: Oh do you really think just the best that you
Speaker 4: can do?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: I was high level offended. Wow, but really seriously for
Speaker 4: it to really go to another point.
Speaker 5: And then when does herschel Walker video went virabl I
Speaker 5: saw Jaseelle maybe a week after that, and she said.
Speaker 4: This is your vein why did you leave that you
Speaker 4: need to stay and what it is that you are.
Speaker 5: Good at and be your best And a lot of
Speaker 5: people don't really have authentic friends that can push you
Speaker 5: to be better. And so the thing that I value
Speaker 5: about Giselle, She's always pushed me to be better, even
Speaker 5: if she's pushing me over the cliff without a parachute.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to leave it at that. That was
Speaker 1: such a nice way to end. I want everybody know
Speaker 1: Jamal Briant is one of my favorite people on Earth.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice, Yes, one of my favorite people on Earth.
Speaker 4: Put that one. Don't do that because rapping is sitting there,
Speaker 4: not one of not one of the Don't do that.
Speaker 1: You're not the I have to that.
Speaker 4: Don't do that. Don't do that because rapping is the truth.
Speaker 4: You're one of the truth.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have I have Grace Angela, my favorite one
Speaker 1: of the four.
Speaker 5: Time.
Speaker 1: It's okay, I can say that you you are in
Speaker 1: the top five. Okay, a favorite people.
Speaker 4: I have three kids.
Speaker 3: I have three kids, three kids.
Speaker 1: I have two parents. I have three kids.
Speaker 2: I have two parents. Yes, so you you beat out
Speaker 2: one parent.
Speaker 1: Yes, gee geez.
Speaker 4: Anyway, thank you for letting me come on the show.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna send you a reasonably said shady sweatshirt.
Speaker 1: We would like to youse for you to wear it
Speaker 1: Sunday morning at church. We want to see us represented
Speaker 1: as you preach the Gospel of the Lord. Wouldn't that
Speaker 1: be beautiful? I'm aware from midd Bible study. Okay, thanks, Okay,
Speaker 1: on that note, we will we will let you go.
Speaker 1: We know that you are very busy. Love you to death,
Speaker 1: not Rob I'm gonna speak for myself. Love you to death,
Speaker 1: Jamal Bryant, Thank you, Jamal.
Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 1: It has been a pleasure.
Speaker 3: We appreciate your work in the community and we do
Speaker 3: miss you.
Speaker 4: Up.
Speaker 1: Oh that was actually that was my last question. So Jamal,
Speaker 1: did he took me around the world? Like we went
Speaker 1: to Egypt, we went to Greece, we went to here, Africa,
Speaker 1: we went to Why didn't you take me to Wakanda?
Speaker 1: Like what in our relationship. It didn't allow you to
Speaker 1: take me to Wakanda.
Speaker 4: I couldn't find the flight. Had I found a flight,
Speaker 4: I sure would.
Speaker 1: Have been there. Okay, that's gonna be our next trip.
Speaker 1: He's taking me to get some I gotta get my
Speaker 1: RANI Okay.
Speaker 4: All right, and goodbye.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jamal. Oh my gosh, that Jamal Bryant is
Speaker 1: a man. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would say you definitely probably get about thirty percent
Speaker 2: of your shadiness from him.
Speaker 1: No, forty forty Yes, Okay, he's extremely shady. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but people don't know how shady he is.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1: He's a I was going to talk about this while
Speaker 1: we were on. Jamal reads like a book a week,
Speaker 1: so he's very smart. He's very well read. He loves
Speaker 1: using his big words. Yeah. But then he also has
Speaker 1: like a just a comedic side to him, which is
Speaker 1: which is nice to It's a nice balance. But that
Speaker 1: makes for a great pastor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because you want to you you don't
Speaker 2: want to sit there and just be bored and be
Speaker 2: entertained as wow, this is true.
Speaker 1: I want to get the word and be entertained. So
Speaker 1: that's awesome.
Speaker 3: So that was But I appreciate him taking time out
Speaker 3: of his busy day to talk to us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I appreciate his perspective on haters, like the
Speaker 1: haters are not coming and burning. The blogger steaks in
Speaker 1: our yard. It's just a blogger. If all we got
Speaker 1: to be worried about is a blogger. Yeah, good, that's
Speaker 1: Bob Briant. It's funny. But anyway, don't ever forget to
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