1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to The Two Pros and a 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: myself Jonas Knox. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern Time three to six am 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: I did not choose this song. Is this considered a 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: stirper song? 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I would assume, though I can't get 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: an understand. I can't get a clear answer as to 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: whether or not this was a Brady Quinn selection that 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: he went behind our backs again and had this picked. 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't who chose this me? 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: Uh Now it all makes sense. And it took today 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: for Lee to come clean. Perfect you know, had to 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: be the perfect, you know, perfect moment. 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: What about the sound drop of Trump saying they don't 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: know what the f they're doing? 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: Who put that in? That was not me? 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: Okay, we do we know who that was or just 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 4: so we just have to it was definitely Alex mm hmmm, 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 4: Alex ty shirt. Yeah, that they don't know what the 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: f they're doing drop. 27 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but who added it. 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: To O's Ricky? 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: That was Ricky just on his own. I don't know. 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: It feels like a veto thing, doesn't it. 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: It feels like you're throwing everybody under the bus. 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get I mean, we can't get 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: a clear answer as to what's happening. But nonetheless, it 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Erenon Jonas Knox with you another 36 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: edition of Black and Drack on this Tuesday morning, as 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: we take you all the way up until nine am 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. You can listen to this 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: show as always on the iHeartRadio app and you can 40 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: find us on hundreds of affiliates here all across the country. 41 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: We opened up the show talking about the big deal 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,279 Speaker 1: in the NFL yesterday, the trade that was completed Steelers Dolphins. 43 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: The Dolphins trading Jalen Ramsey and tight end John new 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: Smith to the Steelers for micka Fitzpatrick and a pick swap. 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey really excited about being a Pittsburgh Steeler. Miga 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick goes back to where his career started in Miami, 47 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: where they traded him years ago to the Pittsburgh Steelers. 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: Had a really nice run there in Pittsburgh. Now he's 49 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: back in Miami and you look at it, you go 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: all right. So Steelers are getting aggressive. They've taken a 51 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: different approach this offseason. It feels like they've got a 52 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: new quarterback, They've got a new wide receiver. They just 53 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: went out and acquired Jalen Ramsey, John new Smith gets 54 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: reed with Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator, Darius Slay Like, 55 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: it feels like Pittsburgh's getting aggressive. I would also say 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: this this offseason is a loss for the Pittsburgh Steelers 57 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: if they don't figure out a way to get TJ. 58 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: Watt's extension done like that, to me, would wipe out 59 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: all of the good intent and goodwill that the organization 60 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: has been able to accomplish so far in the off season. 61 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: And there's been some speculation. Adam Schefter was reporting this 62 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: that in recent weeks, multiple teams have been discussing whether 63 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: they can trade for TJ. Watt, who skipped the team's 64 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: most recent mini camp. Pittsburgh hasn't shown any willingness to 65 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: deal Watt so far, but he's unhappy with this contractual situation, 66 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: and sources believe outside team interest is likely to increase 67 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: given the trade of Jalen Ramsey or Jalen Ramsey before Mikafitzpatrick. 68 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: If this all comes and the cost is you end 69 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 1: up losing TJ. Watt, then all of a sudden, I'd 70 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: like to take back my initial comments of love the 71 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: offseason for Pittsburgh. At least they're giving themselves a chance. 72 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: That would be a bad loss. 73 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: I think if TJ. Watt were not to be a 74 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steeler, you would be well within your rights to say, 75 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: for the first time in any time that I can 76 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: think of or remember, I would actually fix my face 77 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: to let my mouth say that the Pittsburgh Steelers are 78 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: running amok. I would never, in my mind feel as 79 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: though I would ever say that this organization that I've 80 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: learned so many lessons from growing up and just real time, 81 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: real time experiences with people who are connected with that 82 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: organization since I was a kid. I still have the 83 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: most fondest and and great memories of my interactions with 84 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: Coach Cower and and and the things we've discussed on 85 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: a personal level, from Greg Lloyd to Dwight White, who 86 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: was there when I was literally I was young, you know, 87 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: I was, I was pre teen, you know, And I 88 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: got to know Dwight White because we lived in the 89 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: same neighborhood and and so just just my my background 90 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: and connection to the team. You know, I know it 91 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: from a fan's perspective, but I also know it as 92 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: an aspiring football player. And and and obviously to the 93 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: point of where you know I was, I was going 94 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: around with Jerome Bettis. Jerome took me under his wing 95 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: and literally was like picking me up and driving me 96 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 2: around and talking to me about you know, what it 97 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: meant to be dialed in and locked into to being 98 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: the best you can be and how that looks, and 99 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: the things that I needed to be thinking about, Like 100 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: I had all these things real time with Steelers, and 101 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: so looking at where they're at right now, there they 102 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: kind of are flirting with it already in terms of 103 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: it's like I find myself asking myself, what are they doing, Like, 104 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: what are y'all doing if y'all if they were to 105 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: let TJ. Watt walk away from the Pittsburgh Steelers. I 106 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: think it would be official that everyone that is a 107 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers fan and even beyond the Pittsburgh Steeler community 108 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: would be asking, what the hell are the Pittsburgh Steelers doing. Yeah, 109 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: And the only way out of it, and the only 110 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: way through it is you got to have a tremendous season. 111 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: You got to have a tremendous season. So you're going 112 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: to have to have Aaron Rodgers play better than Russell 113 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: Wilson and Justin Fields and Kenny Pickett. You're going to 114 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: have to have Jalen Ramsey have a really really fine year. 115 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: And if TJ. Watt were to go, I don't know, 116 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: man that that would be. That would be a total meltdown. 117 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: I think the pressure to sign TJ. Watt is higher 118 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: than it's ever had been, what it would ever be 119 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: right now, They're going to sign TJ. Watt whether they 120 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: like it or not. The Pittsburgh Steelers are going to 121 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: sign TJ. Watt. They have no other recourse but to 122 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: sign TJ. Watt. 123 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: It also, if they were to trade him, it would 124 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: go against everything went down. Would Yeah, it would go 125 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: against everything they've done this offseason Because these are win 126 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: now MO wouldn't now moves like you're not like Jalen 127 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: Ramsey's not twenty two, Like you're bringing him in because 128 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: you feel like, hey, listen, if he's gonna play corner, 129 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: if he's going to switch to safety, whatever it is, 130 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: this is for now. Aaron Rodgers is done after this year, 131 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, They feel like, hey, this is this isn'tn 132 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: upgrade of that position? John new Smith like, it's not 133 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 1: like he's got a long term deal. These are all 134 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: we want to compete right now. Moves and trading away TJ. 135 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: Watt might make sense for the future, Like when the 136 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: Raiders decided to trade away from Khalil Mack. The thought was, well, look, 137 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we can't you know, we're not at a 138 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: point to where we feel like we can compete, so 139 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: let's at least get as many picks as we possibly can. 140 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: This would just be counter to everything that they've done 141 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: so far in the offseason. That's why I find it 142 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: far fetched that this would happen. But there's until there's 143 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: a deal done, it's it's possible. And if you remember 144 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: the Khalil Mack trade that happened right before the season started, 145 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: so I just I look at it and I go, 146 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm optimistic they'll get something figured out. But if I'm 147 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: a Steelers fan, it's almost you hold the right to 148 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: reserve judgment on the offseason based on whatever that move 149 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: is that cancels out everything for me and whatever they've done, 150 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: not signing TJ. Watt and moving on from him just 151 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to. 152 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: Me at all. You can't move on from TJ. Watt. 153 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: You can't do it. And that's the bottom line. I 154 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 2: don't even think it has to be a long discussion. 155 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: You can't move on from TJ. Watt. If you move 156 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: on from TJ. Watt, good luck and God bless because 157 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: you've lost. You've not only lost the belief of probably 158 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 2: the general media. The media will rain down on that, 159 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: but you're going to lose the belief in the fan. 160 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: The fans are going to lose belief and what you 161 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 2: got going on. And I tell you, people talk about 162 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: block out the outside noise and nothing else matters, and this, 163 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: that and the other fans matter. Fans matter. And if 164 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: you're one of those people, as a decision maker, a 165 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: coach or a player, and you don't think the fans matters. 166 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: Ask anybody who went through COVID how important the fans are, 167 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: and look no further than the idea of you don't 168 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: want to be a fanless franchise. It's not good for business. 169 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: So the fans matter. So some of the decisions that 170 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: these franchises make, organizations make. I mean, granted, this is 171 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: like a Saquon Barkley deal, right like they let Saquon go. 172 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: Oh god, and look at how that played out. There's 173 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind, if TJ. Watt ended up 174 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: on another team, he's going to ball and he's going 175 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: to make that team a better team. The question is 176 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: did the Pittsburgh Steelers become a better team letting TJ. 177 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: Watt go and which they would have effectively let go 178 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: the best two players on their football team and Minka 179 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick and TJ. Watt, Cam Hayward probably being number three. 180 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: And for what it's worth, that's just on the defensive 181 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: side of the ball, because you let Pickett go as 182 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: well Pickens and so all right, you brought in you 183 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: you bring in DK Metcalf, But DK Metcalf has been 184 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: considered to be a head case at times as well, 185 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 2: So it's not like you made a decision where you 186 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: upgrade it like you brought in and no disrespect. But 187 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: it's not like you traded out a low character guy 188 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 2: for a high character guy. You didn't do that. I mean. 189 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: DK Metcalf has just as many meltdowns, if not more 190 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: than George Pickens. 191 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: Is hey, hey, does he I don't think he does. 192 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: Being serious? Are you being serious? 193 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: He's got as many meltdowns as George Pickens. 194 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: You better look him up. Look him up? 195 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: All right, let me look this up. DK may actually 196 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: you know it. I'll grocket right now, grock him. I 197 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: should go ahead, you continue. 198 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: All I'm saying is is that the decisions are questionable. 199 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: That's all. They're questionable. And if you allow for TJ. 200 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: Watt to leave Pittsburgh, then it's not questionable anymore. It's 201 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: just something's wrong. Something's wrong, and they're running them up 202 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. Now, if that leads to the emergence of 203 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: the one Time, Last Time high noon shootout, you know, 204 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: showdown where the gunslinging Aaron Rodgers does it one more 205 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: time and ends the movie killing the villain and walking 206 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: into the sunset with the girl and the trophy, then great. 207 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: It all worked out, But then you also got to 208 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: take it into consideration what do you do after that? 209 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: What comes next? Like? 210 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: Are you just really preparing for one year? What comes next? 211 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: Because you're you're you're judged on a what have you 212 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: done for me lately? Type of status? What comes next? 213 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: So I don't know? And the answer is yes, I 214 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: don't need Grock seen it with my own two eyes. 215 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, listen, I went to Grok just too 216 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: good because I think this is a this is a 217 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: real debate here, all right, Okay, so we don't need 218 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: a lot oferator. We've got Grock. This is a real debate. 219 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: So you you think George Pickens has had less meltdowns 220 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: than DJ and THN DK Metcalf, I think the opposite. 221 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: I'm team DK Metcalf. Here, your team George Pickens. According 222 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: to Grock, both DK Metcalf and George Pickens have had 223 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: their share of emotional outbursts or meltdowns as you say, 224 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: on and off the field, often tied to their competitive 225 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: nature and frustrations with team dynamics or performance. However, based 226 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: on recent reports and sentiment, George Pickens appears to have 227 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: a slight edge in terms of frequency and public perception 228 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: of such incidents. The data doesn't provide a definitive count 229 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: of meltdowns for either player, and much of the perception 230 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: comes from the media, narratives and fan sentiment. Pickens' recent actions, 231 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: particularly of social media activity and the youth camp incident, 232 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: have drawn more attention, suggesting he may have a slight 233 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: edge in terms of publicized meltdowns. However, both players competitive 234 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: intensity makes them prone to emotional moments, and without a 235 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: clear metric, the comparison remains close. If you're looking for 236 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: a more genuine breakdown, I'd need specific incidents or a 237 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: timeframe to dig deeper. Any preference there, I would just say, no, Grok, 238 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: how about you pick a side stop riding the fence. 239 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: I would just say that Grock makes my point, makes 240 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: my point. You didn't upgrade, you didn't upgrade, You didn't 241 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: get this this high character guy that you don't hear 242 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: anything from that that is just comes and does his 243 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: job and works hard and just da da da, and 244 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: and both of these guys may do those things. It's 245 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: just the other things that play a part in it. 246 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: Grabbing people by their face, masks, pushing them after the whistle, 247 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: like doing craziness where it's like it clearly shows that 248 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: the emotional charge that's connected to you is is high. 249 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: And Pickens has done it, and so has DK Metcalf. 250 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: So to me, you know DK state crashing out on 251 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: the field. I mean, he every once in a while 252 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: you'll seem like he'd be ready to fight, like for real, 253 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: for real, Like I'm here, We're gonna fight. 254 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: Hey, that's that competitiveness. That's what we want to steal. 255 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: You can be competitive, You're such an instant gator. You 256 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: can be competitive without without it coming across that way. So, 257 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: and the point is is, I don't it is what 258 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: it is. I mean, both of them are five football players, 259 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: but don't try to justify one to justify the other. 260 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: Like they both kind of have character traits that are 261 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: are relatable and Grock just confirmed. So yeah, I don't 262 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: know where you go with that. 263 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: But Tom Tellasaro of the NFL Network, he does. He 264 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: did report at least on Monday that the Steelers do 265 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: intend and they have no intentions of trading TJ. 266 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: Watt. 267 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: They intend to extend him. And again I'd hope so 268 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: because if for whatever reason. 269 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: That's the end, if they were to do that. If 270 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: you were to get rid of TJ. Watt prematurely, that 271 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: represents the end. It's the end of an era. And 272 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: and you would just have to assume that the GM 273 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: and the head coach are both going to be gone 274 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: after this season. You become a laying duck organization for 275 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: at least a year if you get rid of t J. Watt. 276 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: That's how important he is to the situation. 277 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: And look, it's not to say that TJ. Watt's not 278 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: been a pain in the ass and negotiations, or that 279 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: there have been some things out there about how difficult 280 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: he is to negotiate with or deal with. All of 281 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: that could be true. Here's what else is true. That 282 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: dude's a Hall of Famer and can still play at 283 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: a high level, and you need him, especially to get 284 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: after a quarterback and a division where you've got to 285 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: also probable Hall of Famers and Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow. 286 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: Like I mean, trading away TJ. Watt would feel like 287 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: a Bengals move, not a Steelers move. And if you're 288 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers, like you don't want to have that stain 289 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: or that rep You don't want to be As you mentioned, 290 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: the next Saquon Barkley especially, you know a guy who 291 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: wants to and that's. 292 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: A lot that can happen there. That would be a 293 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: one hundred lock. Yeah, to go somewhere else, and it 294 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: wouldn't I don't know what type of team it would be, 295 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: but if he went to a team that would like say, 296 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: say Kansas City got TJ. Watt, Oh my god, exactly, exactly. 297 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe 298 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with 299 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: you and Grock here on this segment. You can hit 300 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: as always on the iHeartRadio app. So coming up next 301 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: here on a Tuesday edition of Black and Drack, we 302 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 1: are going to tell you about somebody who finally is 303 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: getting a little bit of respect but will lead to 304 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: the real Hall of Fame in the NFL. 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We're going 326 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: to close up shop here with another edition of Lee's Leftovers. 327 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: That'll be yours right here on FSRUH. We did get 328 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: a little piece of news yesterday out of the NFL. 329 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: A congratulations to Rodney Harrison. He will go into the 330 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: Chargers Hall of Fame. That was information was given to 331 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: him as he was waiting in the parking lot outside 332 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: I had his daughter's volleyball tournament. He got a FaceTime 333 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: from Jim Harbaugh, the coach of the Chargers, to let 334 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: him know that he was going into the Chargers Hall 335 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: of Fame along the with greats like Ladanian, Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, 336 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: Junior seou So, Rodney, Harrison well deserved goes into the 337 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: Chargers Hall of Fame. And I don't know that there's 338 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people, by the way, speaking of a 339 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: guy who not yeah, not built for today's game. 340 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: He crashed out on me. Did he really? Yes? He did? 341 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: What happened? Uh uh? 342 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 2: There was a play Doug Flutey did something. I don't know. 343 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: I felt like somebody moved. I went through the line 344 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: of scrimmage and I hit Doug flute and knocked him 345 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: on his back. And Harrison Rodney just crashed out, man like. 346 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: He was like hollering at me, Dad, if you up 347 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: did that? That? That this? That? So he ain't afraid. 348 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: I'll tell you that. 349 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: Because he's a leather neck Western Illinois baby. 350 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: He's one afraid bro. I told him, I'll beat your 351 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: ass on this field, off this field, wherever you like it, 352 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 2: I'll beat the I'll beat the f out of you. 353 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: Brouh you ever talked to me that way? We was talking. 354 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: We was talking greasy to one another. I mean, he 355 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 2: picked the right one to talk to that way. We definitely, 356 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: we definitely, you know, exchanged some some very very non 357 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: pleasant pleasantries to one another during the course of that exchange. 358 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: But I respected it. And and you know, the one 359 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: thing about it is is if if somebody would, if say, 360 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: I would have hit our quarterback and was called for 361 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: an off side and then a personal foul, I would 362 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: have been telling as much as I loved Jay Jr. 363 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: I would have been telling him the same thing. I 364 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: would have been saying the same thing if it was 365 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: Rodney Harris, and I would have been saying the same thing. 366 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: So he's one of those type guys you hate him 367 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: as an opponent, you love him as your teammate type dudes, 368 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: you know, and he's well deserving of it. I mean, 369 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: I don't know his let me look him up. I 370 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: felt like he had a Hall of Fame career, man, 371 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I really do. He was one of them 372 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: special they they always talk about certain safeties like and 373 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: it always starts with Paulamalu, you know, which it should 374 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: start with Ronnie Lott, by the way. But you know 375 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: a lot of people bring up you know, Polamalu and 376 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: Ed Reed, and then it's kind of like they stop 377 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: or they bring in Sean Taylor, you know, and and 378 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: they talk about those guys and deservingly so not not 379 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: saying not deservingly, but but there have been some guys 380 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: that had really played this game at a at a 381 00:22:55,359 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: very very high level, and Rodney Harrison was definitely, you know, 382 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: he was definitely one of them. 383 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: First team All Pro twice, second Team All Pro was 384 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: fourth and Player of the Year, Defensive Player of the 385 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: Year voting one year, won a couple of Super Bowls 386 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: in New England, obviously Pro Bowls. I mean, the fact 387 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: that he's not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame 388 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: is a little bit surprising. And I don't know that 389 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: you put him, you know, on obviously, you know, maybe 390 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: not the Ed Reed level and all that, but he 391 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: was still a great player, and I wonder he's got 392 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting because he played nine years with 393 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: the Chargers, and I wonder if nationally there's more people 394 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: that remember his time with the Patriots because of those 395 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: big games. 396 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: That he played in, which is crazy because he was 397 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: a way, way, way way younger, more spry player in 398 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: San Diego. 399 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: And it's not like he didn't play in a Super 400 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: Bowl with San Diego. Remember they they got blown out 401 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: by the Niners, but he did. 402 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: Beat They beat Mas Steelers to get there. You know 403 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: what's crazy is him. It was him and Junior. That's it. 404 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 2: Like you might look at Natron Means and you know 405 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 2: a couple other people that you know, Curtis Conway I 406 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: believe was a guy Stan Humphries, Like there have been 407 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: some guys like who was the dude that had the 408 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: light the light visor that was the defensive end for them. 409 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: I mean they had they had some guys, you know 410 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. They had some guys on on 411 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: their team. And the two that always stood out the 412 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: most until l T and Sean Merriman got there, and 413 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: you know, Sean Phillips and Thosing Gates. You know, until 414 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: that era of time, the pre era to that, it 415 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 2: was all Rodney, Harrison and Junior sayout all all like 416 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: literally all them. I mean you could throw Edwards in 417 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: there too. The linebacker at Donnie Edwards was was dope 418 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: as hell for the Chargers as well. But man, it 419 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: was Junior in Rodney. Man, it was the Junior and 420 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 2: Rodney Show for sure. 421 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah they were, and it's just you know, and then 422 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: he's still waiting around. I also would say this from abroad, 423 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: I've loved Rodney Harrison as a broadcaster because he's one 424 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: of those guys that is, Look, I know, I'm a 425 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: former player. I'm not going to be a kiss ass 426 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: to former players. I don't care. I'm going to tell 427 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: it how it is. This is my thoughts on it. 428 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: There's some people that push back on it and say, well, 429 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: who are you to talk like? You're not one to 430 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: talk considering your reputation as a player, whether it's dirty hits, 431 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: people forget it. Sort of sparked the Kurt Warner run 432 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis because it was Rodney Harrison who went 433 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: low against Trent Green. There's there's been other incidents that 434 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: have popped up when it comes to Rodney Harrison. He 435 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: was fined a significant amount of money throughout the course 436 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: of his career, But that dude was a great player, 437 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: and I think that people look more at his run 438 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: with the Patriots than they do his run with the Chargers. 439 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: And he was in San Diego way longer. And I 440 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: don't know if that's because it was San Diego. And 441 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: this is not to be insulting or offensive to San 442 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: Diego Charger fans or people listening in San Diego. But look, 443 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: the team left for a reason. I mean, they're clearly 444 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: the market. The visibility wasn't the same as it was 445 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: in New England. So when he went to New England 446 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: and was able to win Super Bowls there, I think 447 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: it put his career on another level. And the fact 448 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: that he's still waiting around for a Hall of Fame 449 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: bid is kind of strange. That's kind of odd to me. 450 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, there's a few of them out there. 451 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: I guess he's one of those names to add, you know, 452 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: Darren Woodson, he's a name to add. He continues to 453 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: wait on getting getting a NOD and getting into the 454 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: Pro Football. 455 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. You know, there's a lot of them 456 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: out there. But Rodney Harrison definitely is was a generational 457 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: player and definitely was a special football player. I think 458 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: he does an excellent job as well. The one thing 459 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: I love about Rodney is that he just don't give 460 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: an f at all. Like you can say what you 461 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: want about him, you know, And I tend to try 462 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: to pattern myself after guys like that, you know, growing 463 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: up watching them, even now being in this type of 464 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: environment where I do media, I try to do it 465 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: the same exact way. I could care less what people say. 466 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: You know, you could say I stink, you could say this, 467 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 2: that and the other. I'm gonna have a good time 468 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: with it because at the end of the day, I'm 469 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: getting paid to do the job. You get zero for 470 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: saying damn you know what I mean. So it's like 471 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 2: I get behind the microphone, I know what I know, 472 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: I've experienced what I've experienced, and continue to learn, continue 473 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: to talk to people, you know that are within the game, 474 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: whether it be you know, top top tier guys, top 475 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: top level you know, corporate, or if it's the players themselves. 476 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: I try to stay connected to it as much as 477 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 2: I possibly can and and give give my perspective, you know, 478 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: because that's what this is. When you do talk radio, 479 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: you're you're here to give perspective for him. He's he's 480 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: an analyst, a studio guy, and he's brought in to 481 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: give his opinions and his perspective, which is based upon 482 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: your experiences and how you see them. So if you 483 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: tell me my my my perspective is some s, then 484 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: that's fine, but I'm nonetheless still giving you genuine, authentic 485 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: perspective and that will never change. And that's one thing 486 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: as a player that I always respected about Rodney Harrison, 487 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: but I also respect it from him as as a 488 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: media personality too. 489 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: He could crack man. 490 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: Oh he brought that hat brought. 491 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: He was one of those big shoulder pad safety guys. 492 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: That would just lay the lumber like he didn't care 493 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: if he knocked himself out. No, that's the thing about it. 494 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: He'll knock you out and he might knock himself out, 495 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: but it didn't matter. He's still he's going to bring. 496 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: He was what you He was a dude that brought 497 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: the noise. You're going and get them, Woodley. 498 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: The name that we were looking for was Leslie O'Neil. 499 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: Leslie O'Neill. 500 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: There you go, great player. Chris Mims was on that team. 501 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: Chris, that's a good one. 502 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: Chargers had something. But I ought to show you how 503 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: good that forty nine Ers team was because that wasn't close. 504 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: That was a complete wipe out. And I still remember 505 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: this watching that Chargers Steelers AFC Championship game, and I 506 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: remember it was a play at the goal line and 507 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: my nephew was a die hard Steelers fan, and I 508 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: just remember the ball was batted down at the goal line. 509 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: The Chargers win in three rivers. It was an upset 510 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: and I remember him running out of the room crying, 511 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at it going how did San Diego 512 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: win that game? Because everyone thought the Steelers are going 513 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and that was one. 514 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: Of those it have been a much better game, I'll 515 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: tell you that, oh yeah. 516 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: And it was also that was people forget that there 517 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: was a real discussion that was being had. Man is 518 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: Bill Keller ever going to get this team over the hump? 519 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: Like is Bill Cower ever going to get this team 520 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: to a super Bowl? And eventually they got there, but 521 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: they lost that Super Bowl either the next year or 522 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: the year after to Dallas in you know, in Arizona, 523 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: and then ultimately they ended up winning it and that 524 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: was you know, Bill Cower's final game. But yeah, Rodney 525 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: Harrison going to be a Hall of Famer, going into 526 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: the Chargers Hall of Fame, well deserved, and maybe one 527 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: day it'll eventually lead into a Pro Football Hall of fame, 528 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: nod for him, But there's a great Chargers team, and 529 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: go back to that. By the way, enough with the 530 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: powder blue crap. Go back to those Chargers jerseys, those unis. 531 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to here at the powder blue st like. 532 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: Go back dark blue, thick lightning bolt across the helmet 533 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: and let's ride with that here. I don't care. They're 534 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: not in San Diego anymore. Make that happen. By the way, 535 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: we are brought to you by O'Reilly Otto Parts. It 536 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: can help take the guesswork out of your vehicle's check, engine, 537 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: ABS or maintenance light with O'Reilly Bearscan. The service is 538 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: free and provides a report with solutions verified by ASC 539 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: certified Master technicians. 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You'll find today's show in a best 561 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: of version posted right after we get off the air. 562 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: These might smell a little funk, sounds incredible, but they're 563 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: still good. Time to find out what's lack? It's Lee's 564 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: lap jobs, all right to laugh? What do we got? Well? 565 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 3: It is July first, and you know what that signifies? 566 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: What it's Bobby Benia day. 567 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: Oh wow, bucks and change. Huh yeah. 568 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 3: One point nine million dollars every year on July first, 569 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: for from now until twenty thirty five, another ten years. 570 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: That's crazy million bussy, what an amazing deal he did? 571 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: Like that is so wowd deferred it? 572 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, damn. I mean, I just hope that I'm around 573 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: doing radio in twenty thirty six so that I can 574 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: officially announce that this story is over. 575 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: Damn. 576 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: That'd be nice. Just go ahead and uh we can 577 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: move on. Matt. I'm just tired of hearing about it, 578 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: like he gets a million dollars in change every year. 579 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: Every year. You got your ass up early as hell 580 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: every day working. You ain't making that. 581 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah, it's true, though. 582 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: He just sits around and it just comes around July thirsday, 583 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: that's true. Get it. 584 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: I gotta play bumper cars with a bunch of alcoholics 585 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: on the road at two in the morning to get 586 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: into the studio, and Bobby Bania just sits back and goes, yeah, 587 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: just leave that check over there next to the other 588 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: ones I get each year. Damn it. 589 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 2: For thirty five more years? What week? Notre years? 590 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: What a humbling reminder? 591 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 2: Dag, Oh my gosh. 592 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: What else we got guys? In case you missed it. 593 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 3: Did you see the father who jumped off the Disney 594 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 3: cruise yesterday? 595 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: I heard about it. Yeah, I didn't see it yet, 596 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 2: but I heard it. Yeah. 597 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: His four year old apparently squeezed through the cracks, fell 598 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 3: off the fourth deck of the Disney cruise, and the 599 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: father quickly sprung into action jumped in after him. Thankfully, 600 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 3: everybody on the ship turned around, saved the father and 601 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: the child. 602 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: So good story there on. 603 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 2: A cruise, on a cruise They turned the ship around 604 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: and save the kid and the dad on a cruise ship. 605 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: That is wow, cheese. 606 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: He's a better man than me. 607 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: I mean, they say, I mean, if that's my son, 608 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: if you can make one, you can make more than one. 609 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: If that's if that's my son. I'm looking over the 610 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: edge going. 611 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 2: River side, Well that would be ocean side. 612 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 6: He seaside, open seaside. 613 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: What I just saw that? Well, okay, what hell is 614 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: really guys? 615 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: Triple A has announced that this fourth of July is 616 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 3: expected to break all records, with seventy two point two 617 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: million Americans traveling on the road for at least fifty 618 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 3: miles or longer. That will include our very own Lorena, 619 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: who's high tailing it. Right after the show today to 620 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 3: her home state of Oregon. 621 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, hold on, noh, like, so you're not 622 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 2: going to be in the rest of the week. 623 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 7: No, I'm not going to be in the rest of 624 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 7: the week. Well, we don't miss me too much. 625 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: Either, are we? So what you may neither? Are we? 626 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 3: Well, we're not going to be in this time slot 627 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 3: necessarily all week. 628 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 2: Oh that is right. Dang, I forgot you guys. 629 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: Get to sleep in. 630 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 2: Tomorrow, not tomorrow. You're going tomorrow. 631 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean I'll still wake up at the same time 632 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: because somebody's got to. 633 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: Keep the consistency going here. And apparently who's taking our 634 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: show while we do another show? 635 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. 636 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 2: Uh, I can look that. 637 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: I should know that, shouldn't I probably? 638 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 4: Oh? 639 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 2: God? 640 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 1: Well, hey, Lorenda, how long is that drive from here 641 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: to Coos Bay? 642 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 7: Right here? It's eleven hours and thirty five minutes. 643 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: So how do you break that up? Do you go 644 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: half take a rest? 645 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 7: Well usually I do half and then arrest. 646 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 8: But since I didn't sleep, I'm probably gonna get about 647 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 8: three hours in and then I'm gonna stop and take 648 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 8: a nap at a rest stop. 649 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 7: Pray I don't get murdered. 650 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 8: And then uh, then we're gonna drive a few more 651 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 8: hours until I get tired again, and I want to 652 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 8: take in another nap. 653 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: By the way, I've done that, take a nap at 654 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: a rest stop like an hour or so. 655 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 7: Oh, it's so good, it's so. 656 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, didn't feel like the safest thing in 657 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 1: the world. 658 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 7: I got my fish cutter. You don't worry about me. 659 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:27,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 660 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 3: See, you're taking the five which if you're taking the 661 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: one A one up, it's great. 662 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 7: Five hours. That adds another five hours here. 663 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: What you get? 664 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 7: And I've done that route. It's not fun. 665 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 3: Jason Fits and Buck Rising, by the way, filling in 666 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 3: for us so ill a good show? 667 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah they do. Yeah, they're great. I love those guys. 668 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 2: Okay. 669 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, she's going to be driving back 670 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 3: in a brand new vehicle. 671 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 7: Oh yes, I forgot. 672 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 2: She's getting a new car. 673 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 7: Has someone bought me a new car? 674 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 4: Bar? 675 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 2: Are you being serious? 676 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 7: No? 677 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 8: But anytime? 678 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 2: Probably. 679 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: You know what you can do up to Oregon. You 680 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: can take the train, you can take Amtrak, which is 681 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: oh yeah, just sweet, take it to Seattle. 682 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, or trying to Oregon like Eugene, Oregon. 683 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably I'm not kidding. I just took. I took, 684 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 1: We took the Amtrak, the surf Liner, Pacific surf Liner. 685 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: We went up to the beach a couple of weeks ago. 686 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: It's the best. 687 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: Man. I didn't even think about that as an. 688 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: Oh my god, if I could. My dad's done that 689 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: to where he took the uh the Amtrak from Union 690 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: Station in Los Angeles all the way to Galesburg, Illinois 691 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: to see his family years ago. And you can go 692 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: like you run out these state rooms and it is awesome. 693 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: You just see parts of the country, you hang out. 694 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: You don't got to worry about getting on a plane. 695 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: It takes a lot longer, but you know how much 696 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 1: work you could get done, and how relaxing that must be. 697 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 2: Relaxing. Yeah, it's the idea of it being relaxing or riffed. 698 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: You can get well, you could get riffed on the airplane. 699 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 700 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 7: I just feel like it should be more cost efficient. 701 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 7: If you're going to take a slower method to get there, 702 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 7: it should be cheaper. And it's not. Trains are still expensive. 703 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: Everything's cheap. 704 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 7: Trains and automobiles. 705 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: No, it's not depends on. 706 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 7: No, Yes, it is. Go look up those train tickets. 707 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't have to drive. If you're in 708 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: a train, you're just hanging out. 709 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 7: I do see your point. 710 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 2: There, I just don't. I mean, a train is probably 711 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 2: in between driving and flying as as the best alternaty. 712 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: It's better than driving because you don't have to do 713 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 2: it unless you love driving. It's better than the airplane 714 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 2: because well you're not in the in the in the 715 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 2: in the sky, and it's cheaper. 716 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you just got to you got to just 717 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: hope that you know, some burnout doesn't walk across the 718 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: tracks because they're upset about some breakup and you know, 719 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: get interest impedes everything because that'll add another at least 720 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: four or five hours onto it clean all that up. 721 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 2: I gotta worry about if your car breaks down to 722 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,439 Speaker 2: like there's always the stress of like is your car 723 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 2: going to are you gonna pop a tire? Like do 724 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 2: you got to get roadside? Where are you at when 725 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: you get that roadside? Do you have you know, sell 726 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: service all man, Jump on that train, Jump on that train. 727 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: If you control that off to go see uh, to 728 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: go up to Oregon if you get pull that off? 729 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 2: Looking that up. Soon as I get off air. I 730 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: didn't even think about that. 731 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: You would get throttled on it. 732 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm gonna make sure I'm tightened 733 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 2: up before I get up on there. Take this little 734 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 2: nap later